1-Oct-1997 16:02:51-GMT,1583;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06133 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:02:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA14537; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 11:01:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:47:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA13793; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:47:53 -0500 Message-ID: <343270C6.CE3@pncamg.com> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:48:22 -0400 From: bbozso@pncamg.com (Balazs Bozso) Organization: Asset Management Group, PNC Bank, N.A., X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Superimposing PDF Files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear PDF Subscribers, I would like to superimpose two individual PDF images (a letterhead and the text) into a single image. Can anyone recommend a method or application to accomplish this? Thank you. Balazs Bozso -- Balazs Bozso bbozso@pncamg.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 19:37:19-GMT,4833;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13612 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:37:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA21786; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:36:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:30:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21455; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:29:58 -0500 Message-Id: <01BCCE7E.9FE4BBA0@wrpnm.wr.lucent.com> From: Regina Nunn To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Dum Question: What's an Article? Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:28:09 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCCE7E.9FEC5CC0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCCE7E.9FEC5CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rebecca. An article is basically the same as a paragraph. Instead of linking to a whole page, you can link to an article instead. Regina Nunn Lucent Technologies ---------- From: Callaway, Rebecca[SMTP:Rebecca.Callaway@alliedsignal.com] Reply To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 3:20 PM To: 'PDF listserve Post' Subject: [PDF] Dum Question: What's an Article? 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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:20:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi - A recent post about search function in PDF and limitations imposed by "articles" makes me ask - What's an Article? just curious.. rebecca +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 20:27:21-GMT,1893;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14813 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:27:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22798; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:13:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:07:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22370; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:07:14 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCCEAD.F7D00340.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Dum Question: What's an Article? Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 21:06:56 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The least used navigation feature because it isn't on the toolbar! It's a way of linking, not one point to another, but a series of rectangles. This is ideal for multi-column layouts, or magazines where stories jump around. I could go on, but try out Tools | Article in Exchange, and you'll see what I mean. Aandi Inston On Wednesday, October 01, 1997 20:20, Callaway, Rebecca [SMTP:Rebecca.Callaway@alliedsignal.com] wrote: > > Hi - > > A recent post about search function in PDF and limitations imposed by > "articles" makes me ask - What's an Article? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 21:19:38-GMT,2781;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16142 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:19:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24228; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:19:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:12:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23815; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:11:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971001231128.009eb390@mail.pi.se> X-Sender: h1919@mail.pi.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 23:11:28 +0200 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Knut Gangstad Subject: RE: [PDF] Dum Question: What's an Article? In-Reply-To: <01BCCEAD.F7D00340.quite@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 is it possible to extract an article an create a new PDF from that?? For example, If we have 100 documents, and all have articles named in a standardised way (AA, XX, YY, ZZ, WW etc). Is it then possible to create some routine that automatically extracts articles XX, YY and ZZ from the document and creates a new document including only those articles? To do it for one doc is ok manually, but for 100 document, it's no fun. At 21:06 1997-10-01 +0100, you wrote: > >The least used navigation feature because it isn't on the toolbar! >It's a way of linking, not one point to another, but a series of rectangles. >This is ideal for multi-column layouts, or magazines where stories >jump around. > >I could go on, but try out Tools | Article in Exchange, and you'll >see what I mean. > >Aandi Inston > >On Wednesday, October 01, 1997 20:20, Callaway, Rebecca [SMTP:Rebecca.Callaway@alliedsignal.com] wrote: >> >> Hi - >> >> A recent post about search function in PDF and limitations imposed by >> "articles" makes me ask - What's an Article? >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > * knut.gangstad@maxcap.se * +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 22:01:46-GMT,1808;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17297 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:01:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24951; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:48:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:41:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24596; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:41:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199710012141.AA24141@interlock.halnet.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "LaVonna Funkhouser" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:40:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Web link to inside of PDF In-Reply-To: <199710011917.OAA20862@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I need to learn how to link from a web page to a page within a PDF file. If I remember the discussion correctly, this involves PDFmarks. Could someone direct me to the archives on this subject or another source for this previously discussed topic? Thanks! --LaVonna LaVonna F. Funkhouser lffunkhouser@halnet.com COREComm Webmaster webmaster@corecomm.com http://www.corecomm.com/corecomm/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 22:09:57-GMT,1671;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17457 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:09:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25671; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:09:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:02:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA25298; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:02:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199710012202.AA28356@interlock.halnet.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "LaVonna Funkhouser" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:01:53 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] follow-up to Catalog question X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to those who replied to my question about indexing with Catalog. The initial error that I received was probably the result of a lack of drive space, but the continuing errors were the result of some errant PDF files killing the Catalog job. When we excluded that directory, the index performed fine. --LaVonna +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 22:32:22-GMT,3963;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18146 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:32:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26164; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:18:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:12:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA25799; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:12:23 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCCEBF.72FD2780.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Web link to inside of PDF Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 23:11:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, October 01, 1997 23:41, LaVonna Funkhouser [SMTP:lffunkhouser@halnet.com] wrote: > > > I need to learn how to link from a web page to > a page within a PDF file. > > If I remember the discussion correctly, this involves > PDFmarks. > > Could someone direct me to the archives on this subject > or another source for this previously discussed topic? It's probably time for me to post the following. Read the instructions within it, copy/paste into prologue.ps file. Can I say that this is from a book I contributed to, described on http://www.quite.com/books/? Oops, too late, I already did. The book is very large, but I did about 120 pages on Acrobat for it. I kept the copyright of this sample, though, so it can be redistributed. % This PostScript code generates a named destination for % each page in a PDF file that is to be distilled. % Destinations are named p1, p2, etc. % For Distiller 3.0. Install as prologue.ps in % - same place as Distiller application; or % - in a watched directory (parent of in and out) % Then switch on 'Distill with prologue.ps' in % Distiller's Advanced Job Options. % Refer to Distiller online guide for more information. % Written by Aandi Inston. Distribute freely. << /EndPage { 10 dict begin { { % code 0, this code is used for showpage 1 add /P exch def % P is the page number /S (p ) def P S 1 9 getinterval cvs length 1 add S exch 0 exch getinterval cvn /N exch def % N is now the name p1 p2 etc. currentpagedevice /PageSize get 1 get /H exch def % H is the page height systemdict /pdfmark known { [ /Dest N /Page P /View [ /XYZ 0 H 1 % target area % Change the above line to define target area % Use info from following lines, without first % % /XYZ 0 H 1 % specify top of page at 100% % /XYZ 0 H 0.75 % specify top of page at 75% % /Fit % view entire page % /FitH H % fit width of page % /FitBH H % fit width of page without margins ] /DEST pdfmark % create link } if true % output page } { % code 1, this code is used for copypage pop true % output copy, don't set a link } { % code 2, this code is used for deactivation pop false % do not output page } } exch get exec % run appropriate procedure end } >> setpagedevice % If the following message does not appear in % Distiller's log, something has gone wrong! (Note: Named destinations p1 p2 etc.\n) print ( will be generated for each page\n) print flush +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 22:44:29-GMT,1826;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18465 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:44:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA27435; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:43:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:37:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26937; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:37:40 -0500 Message-ID: <0002E340@smtpgateway.dynwest.com> Date: 1 Oct 1997 16:01:00 -0700 From: "LaVonna Funkhouser" Organization: DynCorp To: , Subject: [PDF] follow-up to Catalog question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to those who replied to my question about indexing with Catalog. The initial error that I received was probably the result of a lack of drive space, but the continuing errors were the result of some errant PDF files killing the Catalog job. When we excluded that directory, the index performed fine. --LaVonna +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 23:27:45-GMT,2132;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19414 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:27:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA29835; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:27:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:20:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28152; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:02:47 -0500 Message-ID: <0002E36D@smtpgateway.dynwest.com> Date: 1 Oct 1997 16:01:00 -0700 From: "LaVonna Funkhouser" Organization: DynCorp To: , Subject: [PDF] follow-up to Catalog question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to those who replied to my question about indexing with Catalog. The initial error that I received was probably the result of a lack of drive space, but the continuing errors were the result of some errant PDF files killing the Catalog job. When we excluded that directory, the index performed fine. --LaVonna +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 23:45:55-GMT,2438;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19772 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:45:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA30945; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:45:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:38:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA30439; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:38:31 -0500 Message-ID: <0002E3AD@smtpgateway.dynwest.com> Date: 1 Oct 1997 16:01:00 -0700 From: "LaVonna Funkhouser" Organization: DynCorp To: , Subject: [PDF] follow-up to Catalog question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to those who replied to my question about indexing with Catalog. The initial error that I received was probably the result of a lack of drive space, but the continuing errors were the result of some errant PDF files killing the Catalog job. When we excluded that directory, the index performed fine. --LaVonna +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 23:57:38-GMT,1826;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20044 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:57:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA31885; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:56:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:50:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29046; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:18:03 -0500 Message-ID: <0002E388@smtpgateway.dynwest.com> Date: 1 Oct 1997 16:01:00 -0700 From: "LaVonna Funkhouser" Organization: DynCorp To: , Subject: [PDF] follow-up to Catalog question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to those who replied to my question about indexing with Catalog. The initial error that I received was probably the result of a lack of drive space, but the continuing errors were the result of some errant PDF files killing the Catalog job. When we excluded that directory, the index performed fine. --LaVonna +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Oct-1997 0:14:49-GMT,1911;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (root@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20413 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:14:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA28795; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:09:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:02:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28176; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:02:50 -0500 Message-ID: <0002E37B@smtpgateway.dynwest.com> Date: 1 Oct 1997 15:40:00 -0700 From: "LaVonna Funkhouser" Organization: DynCorp To: , Subject: [PDF] Web link to inside of PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I need to learn how to link from a web page to a page within a PDF file. If I remember the discussion correctly, this involves PDFmarks. Could someone direct me to the archives on this subject or another source for this previously discussed topic? Thanks! --LaVonna LaVonna F. Funkhouser lffunkhouser@halnet.com COREComm Webmaster webmaster@corecomm.com http://www.corecomm.com/corecomm/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Oct-1997 1:04:29-GMT,3539;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21326 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:04:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA04509; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:03:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:57:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04001; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:57:01 -0500 X-ROUTED: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:56:56 -0400 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <3432EA8B.78F4@imagebiz.com> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 20:27:55 -0400 From: Tony McKinley Organization: Intelligent Imaging X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] RE: Acrobat Catalog/Searching Web PDF Docs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Kevin & Regina, Acrobat Catalog and Search incorporate Verity index and retrieval technology. Verity up until late Spring '97 offered a free package called Verity SearchPDF for Web Server, which offered easily installed and configurable CGI interfaces to their engine running on a your Web server. Lately, the PDF IFilter has been available to allow the Index Server 1.2 in MS/IIS 3.0 to deliver similar functionality to the combo of Catalog and SearchPDF, incl. in MS/NT 4.0. Commercial Web search solutions are available from several vendors, and you can find all the latest info on the Adobe Web site. High end IR vendors don't require Acrobat Catalog to create the indexes. On single downloaded-from-the-Web documents, you don't need to use Catalog, but then again you only get Find instead of Search, a step down in sophistication. Of course, you could think about bundling the 9 subdirectories created by Catalog with a single document in a folder, and then it would be Search-able once it was downloaded and handled by Acrobat 3 Reader w/ Search or Acrobat 3 Exchange. There's a book available in PDF on the Web that both talks about and demonstrates these concepts. You can get there thru the link below. (I hope no one construes this comment as a brazen ploy to "sell" a free book on the Web.) Tony -- you wrote: >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:35:08 -0500 >From: Kevin Farrell >Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Catalog/Searching Web PDF Docs >I have a few single web documents that I need to be able to search for >certain text within the document(s). I've scanned briefly over Acrobat >Catalog. >It looks to me that this specific function can be done there. But, I'm >being told that a Verity Search tool is needed before this can be done >for PDF documents on the web? >Can anyone give me definite info on this? >Thanks in advance for any assistance you're able to provide. >Regina Nunn >Lucent Technologies -- Tony McKinley Intelligent Imaging mailto:tonymck@imagebiz.com - Voice: 610.647.5570 >From Paper to Web - http://imagebiz.com/PaperWeb ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - Internet Expert Editor's Recommended Book at AMAZON.com!!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Oct-1997 1:11:40-GMT,1826;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21466 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:11:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA05527; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:11:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:04:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04761; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:04:57 -0500 Message-ID: <0002E3EA@smtpgateway.dynwest.com> Date: 1 Oct 1997 16:01:00 -0700 From: "LaVonna Funkhouser" Organization: DynCorp To: , Subject: [PDF] follow-up to Catalog question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to those who replied to my question about indexing with Catalog. The initial error that I received was probably the result of a lack of drive space, but the continuing errors were the result of some errant PDF files killing the Catalog job. When we excluded that directory, the index performed fine. --LaVonna +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Oct-1997 10:01:02-GMT,6214;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA01473 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 04:01:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA16763; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 05:00:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 04:52:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA16349; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 04:52:06 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCCF21.541405C0@Rockhse2.docctrl.com> From: Dave Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Superimposing PDF Files Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:38:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCCF21.541BA6E0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCCF21.541BA6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our PDFfusion product does this. Full information and eval code is available. Please see our web site www.docctrl.com for more information or e-mail me directly. drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: Balazs Bozso [SMTP:bbozso@pncamg.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 4:48 PM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Superimposing PDF Files Dear PDF Subscribers, I would like to superimpose two individual PDF images (a letterhead and the text) into a single image. Can anyone recommend a method or application to accomplish this? Thank you. 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Thu, 2 Oct 1997 07:31:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA22060; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:30:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:21:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA21594; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:21:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 14:21:15 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19971002140914.3de799b8@popmail.dircon.co.uk> X-Sender: compstm1@popmail.dircon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Peter Mathews Computerstream Ltd UK Subject: [PDF] Superimposing PDF's Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Balazs You have described a problem for which there are a couple of commercial solutions. Probably the best (and cheapest/easiest) is to use PDF Protector, which will allow you to create a PDF page, and merge it with another. It will support both black/white and colour pages. Another is Volume Builder, but it is more exotic and costly (not really designed for this task). An evaluation of PDF Protector can be downloaded as a ZIP file from Emerge's Web site, and will allow a "banner" to be applied to only pages 2 and 3 of a document, so you will have to create a multi-page document for this purpose. If - however, this is a problem for you, please send me an email attachment of both the letterhead and the "target" document, and I'll process them and email them back straight away. Hope this helps! Regards Peter Mathews. In response to: > >Dear PDF Subscribers, > > I would like to superimpose two individual PDF images (a >letterhead and >the text) into a single image. Can anyone recommend a method or >application to accomplish this? > > Thank you. > > Balazs Bozso -- /// --- /// --- // Computerstream Limited -- // // // // -- // Sutton Executive Centre - // + -- // + // Two Duke Street // + // + // Sutton Coldfield --// // --// // // West Midlands B72 1RJ, UK -- /// /// -- /////// tel: (+44) (0) 121 362 1930 www.computerstream.co.uk/computerstream fax: (+44) (0) 121 362 1881 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Oct-1997 14:14:04-GMT,2576;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06025 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:14:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA23134; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:00:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:52:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22683; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:52:20 -0500 From: "GEORGE BRANDSBERG" Organization: K-State Research and Extension To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:52:02 -0600 Subject: [PDF] Blank pages on PDFs downloaded from the web In-reply-to: <2.2.16.19971002140914.3de799b8@popmail.dircon.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Good morning, We have 1,000 plus PDFs of Extension and Research publications available on our web site and visitors can download. Except from occasional grumbling about "how inconvenient" it is to get and use the Acrobat Reader, we've had no problems. Until this week. We've had a couple of people download newsletters in PDFs that allow them to see only the first page and show subsequent pages as blank or display an error message and not allow them to see pages beyond p. 1. Has anyone had this problem or one like it? If so, any solution? BTW, when we test downloading these PDFs on our machines, the PDFs download and open as they should. Publications in general are at http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/library/PUB/LIBRARY/LIBRARY.HTM The newsletters (AgUpdates) with possible problems are at http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/dp_agec/pub.htm --George ========================================================== George Brandsberg gbrandsb@oz.oznet.ksu.edu Electronic Publishing Specialist 308 Umberger Hall Kansas State University voice: 913-532-1147 Manhattan, KS 66506-3402 U.S.A fax: 913-532-5633 ========================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 22:26:11-GMT,3080;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17980 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:26:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26577; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:25:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:19:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26188; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:19:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:16:48 PDT Message-Id: <00008308.3159@lwi.xerox.com> From: tregner@lwi.xerox.com (Tom Regner) Subject: Re: [PDF] Superimposing PDF Files To: bbozso@pncamg.com Cc: pdf-l@emrg.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Dear PDF Subscribers, > > I would like to superimpose two individual PDF images (a >letterhead and the text) into a single image. Can anyone recommend >a method or application to accomplish this? > > Thank you. > > Balazs Bozso Dear Balazs, The following assumes that your logo file is cropped so that you don't have a lot of white space around it. 1. In Acrobat Exchange 3.0, open the PDF file containing your text. 2. Now go to your toolbar and select the forms tool (should be between the link and text tools). 3. With the mouse, click and drag to create a box where you would like the logo to appear. 4. In the "Field Properties" dialog box that opens, enter "Logo" in the Name field, and make sure that "Type" is set to "Button." 5. In the "Appearance when UP" field, press the "Icon" button. Another dialog box will open that will allow you to "Browse" to the logo PDF file. Once you find it, press OK. 6. The logo image will appear in the box next to the Icon button that you pressed in Step 5. Hit OK and the dialog box will close. The box you've drawn in the text PDF will still appear empty (except for the word "Logo") until you press another tool on the toolbar. 7. Press the hand or magnifying glass and badabing, your logo appears. You can now, if you wish, use the link tool to link the logo to any other PDF file. Pretty cool, huh? I hope this helps. Someone else on this list clued me into the basics and I thought I'd do all of the steps for you so that you didn't have to figure it all out like I did. Best, Tom Regner Sr. Technical Writer LiveWorks, Inc. (A Xerox New Enterprise Company) TRegner@lwi.xerox.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 22:43:35-GMT,3499;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18443 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:43:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26710; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:29:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:23:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26502; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:23:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:16:48 PDT Message-Id: <00008308.3159@lwi.xerox.com> From: tregner@lwi.xerox.com (Tom Regner) Subject: Re: [PDF] Superimposing PDF Files Old-To: bbozso@pncamg.com Cc: pdf-l@emrg.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Dear PDF Subscribers, > > I would like to superimpose two individual PDF images (a >letterhead and the text) into a single image. Can anyone recommend >a method or application to accomplish this? > > Thank you. > > Balazs Bozso Dear Balazs, The following assumes that your logo file is cropped so that you don't have a lot of white space around it. 1. In Acrobat Exchange 3.0, open the PDF file containing your text. 2. Now go to your toolbar and select the forms tool (should be between the link and text tools). 3. With the mouse, click and drag to create a box where you would like the logo to appear. 4. In the "Field Properties" dialog box that opens, enter "Logo" in the Name field, and make sure that "Type" is set to "Button." 5. In the "Appearance when UP" field, press the "Icon" button. Another dialog box will open that will allow you to "Browse" to the logo PDF file. Once you find it, press OK. 6. The logo image will appear in the box next to the Icon button that you pressed in Step 5. Hit OK and the dialog box will close. The box you've drawn in the text PDF will still appear empty (except for the word "Logo") until you press another tool on the toolbar. 7. Press the hand or magnifying glass and badabing, your logo appears. You can now, if you wish, use the link tool to link the logo to any other PDF file. Pretty cool, huh? I hope this helps. Someone else on this list clued me into the basics and I thought I'd do all of the steps for you so that you didn't have to figure it all out like I did. Best, Tom Regner Sr. Technical Writer LiveWorks, Inc. (A Xerox New Enterprise Company) TRegner@lwi.xerox.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 22:45:18-GMT,3570;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18482 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:45:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA27453; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:44:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:37:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26998; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:37:51 -0500 From: tregner@lwi.xerox.com Message-ID: <0002E355@smtpgateway.dynwest.com> Date: 1 Oct 1997 15:16:00 -0700 Organization: DynCorp To: , Cc: Subject: Re: [PDF] Superimposing PDF Files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Dear PDF Subscribers, > > I would like to superimpose two individual PDF images (a >letterhead and the text) into a single image. Can anyone recommend >a method or application to accomplish this? > > Thank you. > > Balazs Bozso Dear Balazs, The following assumes that your logo file is cropped so that you don't have a lot of white space around it. 1. In Acrobat Exchange 3.0, open the PDF file containing your text. 2. Now go to your toolbar and select the forms tool (should be between the link and text tools). 3. With the mouse, click and drag to create a box where you would like the logo to appear. 4. In the "Field Properties" dialog box that opens, enter "Logo" in the Name field, and make sure that "Type" is set to "Button." 5. In the "Appearance when UP" field, press the "Icon" button. Another dialog box will open that will allow you to "Browse" to the logo PDF file. Once you find it, press OK. 6. The logo image will appear in the box next to the Icon button that you pressed in Step 5. Hit OK and the dialog box will close. The box you've drawn in the text PDF will still appear empty (except for the word "Logo") until you press another tool on the toolbar. 7. Press the hand or magnifying glass and badabing, your logo appears. You can now, if you wish, use the link tool to link the logo to any other PDF file. Pretty cool, huh? I hope this helps. Someone else on this list clued me into the basics and I thought I'd do all of the steps for you so that you didn't have to figure it all out like I did. Best, Tom Regner Sr. Technical Writer LiveWorks, Inc. (A Xerox New Enterprise Company) TRegner@lwi.xerox.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 22:58:06-GMT,3268;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18767 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:58:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA27447; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:44:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:37:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26962; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:37:43 -0500 From: tregner@lwi.xerox.com Message-ID: <0002E34A@smtpgateway.dynwest.com> Date: 1 Oct 1997 15:16:00 -0700 Organization: DynCorp To: , Cc: Subject: Re: [PDF] Superimposing PDF Files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Dear PDF Subscribers, > > I would like to superimpose two individual PDF images (a >letterhead and the text) into a single image. Can anyone recommend >a method or application to accomplish this? > > Thank you. > > Balazs Bozso Dear Balazs, The following assumes that your logo file is cropped so that you don't have a lot of white space around it. 1. In Acrobat Exchange 3.0, open the PDF file containing your text. 2. Now go to your toolbar and select the forms tool (should be between the link and text tools). 3. With the mouse, click and drag to create a box where you would like the logo to appear. 4. In the "Field Properties" dialog box that opens, enter "Logo" in the Name field, and make sure that "Type" is set to "Button." 5. In the "Appearance when UP" field, press the "Icon" button. Another dialog box will open that will allow you to "Browse" to the logo PDF file. Once you find it, press OK. 6. The logo image will appear in the box next to the Icon button that you pressed in Step 5. Hit OK and the dialog box will close. The box you've drawn in the text PDF will still appear empty (except for the word "Logo") until you press another tool on the toolbar. 7. Press the hand or magnifying glass and badabing, your logo appears. You can now, if you wish, use the link tool to link the logo to any other PDF file. Pretty cool, huh? I hope this helps. Someone else on this list clued me into the basics and I thought I'd do all of the steps for you so that you didn't have to figure it all out like I did. Best, Tom Regner Sr. Technical Writer LiveWorks, Inc. (A Xerox New Enterprise Company) TRegner@lwi.xerox.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 23:23:26-GMT,3876;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19298 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:23:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA28799; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:09:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:02:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28236; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:02:56 -0500 From: tregner@lwi.xerox.com Message-ID: <0002E36E@smtpgateway.dynwest.com> Date: 1 Oct 1997 15:16:00 -0700 Organization: DynCorp To: , Cc: Subject: Re: [PDF] Superimposing PDF Files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Dear PDF Subscribers, > > I would like to superimpose two individual PDF images (a >letterhead and the text) into a single image. Can anyone recommend >a method or application to accomplish this? > > Thank you. > > Balazs Bozso Dear Balazs, The following assumes that your logo file is cropped so that you don't have a lot of white space around it. 1. In Acrobat Exchange 3.0, open the PDF file containing your text. 2. Now go to your toolbar and select the forms tool (should be between the link and text tools). 3. With the mouse, click and drag to create a box where you would like the logo to appear. 4. In the "Field Properties" dialog box that opens, enter "Logo" in the Name field, and make sure that "Type" is set to "Button." 5. In the "Appearance when UP" field, press the "Icon" button. Another dialog box will open that will allow you to "Browse" to the logo PDF file. Once you find it, press OK. 6. The logo image will appear in the box next to the Icon button that you pressed in Step 5. Hit OK and the dialog box will close. The box you've drawn in the text PDF will still appear empty (except for the word "Logo") until you press another tool on the toolbar. 7. Press the hand or magnifying glass and badabing, your logo appears. You can now, if you wish, use the link tool to link the logo to any other PDF file. Pretty cool, huh? I hope this helps. Someone else on this list clued me into the basics and I thought I'd do all of the steps for you so that you didn't have to figure it all out like I did. Best, Tom Regner Sr. Technical Writer LiveWorks, Inc. (A Xerox New Enterprise Company) TRegner@lwi.xerox.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Oct-1997 23:48:36-GMT,3259;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19859 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:48:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA30215; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:34:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:28:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28244; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:02:57 -0500 From: tregner@lwi.xerox.com Message-ID: <0002E363@smtpgateway.dynwest.com> Date: 1 Oct 1997 15:16:00 -0700 Organization: DynCorp To: , Cc: Subject: Re: [PDF] Superimposing PDF Files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Dear PDF Subscribers, > > I would like to superimpose two individual PDF images (a >letterhead and the text) into a single image. Can anyone recommend >a method or application to accomplish this? > > Thank you. > > Balazs Bozso Dear Balazs, The following assumes that your logo file is cropped so that you don't have a lot of white space around it. 1. In Acrobat Exchange 3.0, open the PDF file containing your text. 2. Now go to your toolbar and select the forms tool (should be between the link and text tools). 3. With the mouse, click and drag to create a box where you would like the logo to appear. 4. In the "Field Properties" dialog box that opens, enter "Logo" in the Name field, and make sure that "Type" is set to "Button." 5. In the "Appearance when UP" field, press the "Icon" button. Another dialog box will open that will allow you to "Browse" to the logo PDF file. Once you find it, press OK. 6. The logo image will appear in the box next to the Icon button that you pressed in Step 5. Hit OK and the dialog box will close. The box you've drawn in the text PDF will still appear empty (except for the word "Logo") until you press another tool on the toolbar. 7. Press the hand or magnifying glass and badabing, your logo appears. You can now, if you wish, use the link tool to link the logo to any other PDF file. Pretty cool, huh? I hope this helps. Someone else on this list clued me into the basics and I thought I'd do all of the steps for you so that you didn't have to figure it all out like I did. Best, Tom Regner Sr. Technical Writer LiveWorks, Inc. (A Xerox New Enterprise Company) TRegner@lwi.xerox.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Oct-1997 10:43:51-GMT,2099;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02176 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 04:43:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA17595; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 05:30:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 05:24:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA17244; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 05:24:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199710021123.MAA09167@master.datanet.it> Subject: [PDF] Problems with PitStop Date: Thu, 2 Oct 97 12:23:43 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hallo, I'm evaluating the PitStop plug-in v.1.1 on a 3.01 for PowerMac. I'm having some problems when dealing with text: if I select one word or group of words, when I release it I get it rendered in the top left corner of the PitStop board, instead of the right position. If I only refresh the screen (e.g. changing the zoom) all moved elements return to their right place. Has anybody seen something like that? I had the same problem with version 1.0.1 on the same Mac, and I thought of an early release problem. Now, I'd like to know if it's a problem related to my environment or if someone has detected it and knows the cause. Note that I've unloaded any non-standard plug-in, and that this happens on all kind of PDFs. Apart from this, a great standing ovation for the Enfocus Team for this great piece of software! 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Many subscribing addresses are gateways to multiple recipients at corporate and educational LANs. === _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ --> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <-- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.emrg.com/ ========================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + + Send questions or feedback to: mailto:web-ed@emrg.com + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Oct-1997 17:10:16-GMT,2004;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11914 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:10:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA29828; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:09:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:00:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29346; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:00:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:00:46 GMT X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: PDF List Posting From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDF] No cursor displayed in PDF with Form fields; Win-Reader 3.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We encounter a strange behaviour of Reader 3.0 for Windows 3.1, but also for Windows 95. We have several form fields on that page. When we tab or click into a new field, the cursor is not visible, and text entered does not get displayed. Tabbing or clicking into another fiel does not help. However, when the page is slightly moved (with the Hand tool), the cursor and the entered text appear. Does anyone have an explanation for this behaviour? It does not happen on a Mac. Thanks for all ideas. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Oct-1997 21:39:58-GMT,3215;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19709 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 15:39:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA03899; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:25:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:16:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03490; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:16:02 -0500 Message-ID: <34340F25.210D@pncamg.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 17:16:21 -0400 From: bbozso@pncamg.com (Balazs Bozso) Organization: Asset Management Group, PNC Bank, N.A., X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] [Fwd: Superimposing PDF Files] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2F1DEDDB9" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2F1DEDDB9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached is another piece of advice I received in response to my inquiry. -- Balazs Bozso bbozso@pncamg.com --------------2F1DEDDB9 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from vwall1.pncbank.com ([170.201.2.20]) by pncamgnt1.pncamg.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA379 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:10:59 -0400 Received: from internet1.pncbank.com by vwall1.pncbank.com (SMI-8.6/8.6) id PAA15114; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:09:39 -0400 Received: from odin.infodata.com ([198.242.36.6]) by internet1.pncbank.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/1.0.0) with ESMTP id PAA12920 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:11:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorberlr.infodata.com ([198.242.36.93]) by odin.infodata.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA488 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:15:21 -0400 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:07:14 -0400 Message-ID: <01BCCE7B.B38701C0.llorber@infodata.com> From: llorber@infodata.com (Lorber, Linda) To: "'bbozso@pncamg.com'" Subject: Superimposing PDF Files Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:07:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Balazs, You can use the off-the-shelf plug-in Compose (see either www.infodata.com or www.ambia.com) to use the Overlay tool. This has lots of other fun plug-ins too. All good for PDF producers. Linda Lorber Director, Integration Consulting Services Infodata Systems Inc. 703-218-1163 llorber@infodata.com www.infodata.com --------------2F1DEDDB9-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Oct-1997 22:48:47-GMT,3353;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21624 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:48:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05594; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:47:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:40:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA05149; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:40:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 15:40:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick West To: GEORGE BRANDSBERG cc: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Blank pages on PDFs downloaded from the web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 George, I had that happen with the Acrobat for OS/2 BETA when on machines with only 8 megabytes of RAM. Doesn't happen with the GA version. So low memory? On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, GEORGE BRANDSBERG wrote: > > Good morning, > > We have 1,000 plus PDFs of Extension and Research publications > available on our web site and visitors can download. Except from > occasional grumbling about "how inconvenient" it is to get and use > the Acrobat Reader, we've had no problems. > > Until this week. We've had a couple of people download newsletters > in PDFs that allow them to see only the first page and show > subsequent pages as blank or display an error message and not allow > them to see pages beyond p. 1. > > Has anyone had this problem or one like it? If so, any solution? > BTW, when we test downloading these PDFs on our machines, the PDFs > download and open as they should. > > Publications in general are at > http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/library/PUB/LIBRARY/LIBRARY.HTM > > The newsletters (AgUpdates) with possible problems are at > http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/dp_agec/pub.htm > > --George > > > ========================================================== > George Brandsberg gbrandsb@oz.oznet.ksu.edu > Electronic Publishing Specialist > 308 Umberger Hall > Kansas State University voice: 913-532-1147 > Manhattan, KS 66506-3402 U.S.A fax: 913-532-5633 > ========================================================== > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Patrick West ,using Pine 3.96 PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Oct-1997 23:05:58-GMT,3781;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22171 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:05:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05792; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:52:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:46:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA05445; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:46:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 15:40:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick West Old-To: GEORGE BRANDSBERG cc: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Blank pages on PDFs downloaded from the web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 George, I had that happen with the Acrobat for OS/2 BETA when on machines with only 8 megabytes of RAM. Doesn't happen with the GA version. So low memory? On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, GEORGE BRANDSBERG wrote: > > Good morning, > > We have 1,000 plus PDFs of Extension and Research publications > available on our web site and visitors can download. Except from > occasional grumbling about "how inconvenient" it is to get and use > the Acrobat Reader, we've had no problems. > > Until this week. We've had a couple of people download newsletters > in PDFs that allow them to see only the first page and show > subsequent pages as blank or display an error message and not allow > them to see pages beyond p. 1. > > Has anyone had this problem or one like it? If so, any solution? > BTW, when we test downloading these PDFs on our machines, the PDFs > download and open as they should. > > Publications in general are at > http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/library/PUB/LIBRARY/LIBRARY.HTM > > The newsletters (AgUpdates) with possible problems are at > http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/dp_agec/pub.htm > > --George > > > ========================================================== > George Brandsberg gbrandsb@oz.oznet.ksu.edu > Electronic Publishing Specialist > 308 Umberger Hall > Kansas State University voice: 913-532-1147 > Manhattan, KS 66506-3402 U.S.A fax: 913-532-5633 > ========================================================== > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Patrick West ,using Pine 3.96 PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 0:28:07-GMT,2177;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24049 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:28:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07453; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:27:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:19:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA07069; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:19:55 -0500 Message-ID: <34340F5B.2209@axionet.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 17:17:15 -0400 From: Bruce Byfield X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Digest Subject: [PDF] Re: Cleanest ps files for Acrobat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Scottie Scott wrote: >I find that PageMaker and Adobe Illustrator produces very good >ps files for Acrobat. Most of the time, the programs you use should have no effect on the quality of your postscript fonts. The days when each program needed its own printer drivers are long gone. -- Bruce Byfield, Outlaw Communications (bbyfield@axionet.com) (604) 421-7189 or 688-6211 L. 290 http://www.axionet.com/outlawcommunications Job Bank Team, STC Canada West Coast Chapter http://www.stc.org/region7/cwc/www/job_bank.html "I sometimes wonder if Goon would have taken me in if I had displayed less terror, if his compulsion to prove his benign intentions was not what any human will feel when confronted with a petrified wild animal one wishes to help - the mistaken terror is an insult to our good motives, a goad to greater efforts." - Peter Carey, "Illywhacker" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 2:10:14-GMT,2245;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26345 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:10:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA09440; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:55:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:47:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA08929; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:47:17 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34340F5B.2209@axionet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:48:43 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Cleanest ps files for Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Scottie Scott wrote: > >>I find that PageMaker and Adobe Illustrator produces very good >ps files >>for Acrobat. > >Most of the time, the programs you use should have no effect on the >quality of your postscript fonts. The days when each program needed its >own printer drivers are long gone. Actually, most graphics or layout programs write their own PostScript out without too much help from printer drivers: PageMaker, Illustrator, Quark, and Freehand to cite a few. That said, Illustrator almost cerainly produces the most compact representation after Distilling because it's imaging model is so close to that of PDF. PDF was in fact originally modelled after the Illustrator file format. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 13:16:06-GMT,2271;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08281 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:16:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA19248; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:15:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:07:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18747; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:07:20 -0500 From: "GEORGE BRANDSBERG" Organization: K-State Research and Extension To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:07:10 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] Blank pages on PDFs downloaded from the web CC: WBALDWIN@oz.oznet.ksu.edu References: <2.2.16.19971002140914.3de799b8@popmail.dircon.co.uk> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear PDFers, As a followup to yesterday's message about some PDFs we had on the web that were opening with blank pages, and/or error messages, it appears the PDFs in question were distilled with v. 3.0 of the Distiller with the v. 2.1 compatibility checkbox unchecked. When we redistilled them with v. 2.1 compatibility, they worked for the folks who encountered the problem. Looks like we need to encourage users to update to v. 3.0. Thanks for your help and interest. --George ========================================================== George Brandsberg gbrandsb@oz.oznet.ksu.edu Electronic Publishing Specialist 308 Umberger Hall Kansas State University voice: 913-532-1147 Manhattan, KS 66506-3402 U.S.A fax: 913-532-5633 ========================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 16:05:50-GMT,2595;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12814 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:05:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21822; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:50:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:39:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21420; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:39:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199710031531.IAA27819@db.emuni.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "David M. Davisson" Organization: Pacific Financial Printing To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:33:03 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Cleanest ps files for Acrobat In-reply-to: References: <34340F5B.2209@axionet.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 2 Oct 97 at 21:48, Gary Cosimini wrote: I guess that's why you can distill an Illustrator file directly without having to go through the print routines. > That said, Illustrator almost cerainly produces the most compact > representation after Distilling because it's imaging model is so close to > that of PDF. PDF was in fact originally modelled after the Illustrator file > format. > > Gary Cosimini > Adobe Systems > > > > > -------------------------- > Gary Cosimini > Adobe Systems Incorporated > 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor > New York, NY 10017 > Reception (212) 446-3800 > Fax (212) 446-3802 > Email gcosimin@adobe.com > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ---------- David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 4020 Campbell Avenue Menlo Park, CA 94025 (415) 328-1500 davisson@pfp.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 17:05:06-GMT,1546;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14600 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:05:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA23768; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:03:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:53:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA23279; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:53:51 -0500 Message-ID: <9FC4AB5D4CF2D011981F00A0246B63971CE96C@sfi-exch.sputtered-films.com> From: Don Rose To: "'PDF-List'" Subject: [PDF] Printing all even, then all odd pages Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 09:54:04 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 After a question, a quick look, and surprise; I can't figure out how to print all even pages (and all odd) in order to back-to-back pages of a manual in pdf. I've tried both exchange and reader. Is it possible? Thanks in advance Don Rose +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 17:33:41-GMT,1699;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15365 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:33:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA24791; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:32:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:26:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA24410; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:25:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199710031726.LAA19552@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: Subject: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:15:21 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know how to get around the limitations of Acrobat 3.0 re animated gifs? For example, Is there a way to convert an animated gif to a mov? Other ideas? Bev Bev Mitchell Department of Biological Sciences University of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/homepg/bkmhome.html Canada T6G 2E9 Phone: 403-492-4637 Fax: 403-492-9234 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 17:43:39-GMT,2254;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15597 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:43:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA24654; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:29:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:21:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA24169; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:21:16 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971003192037.009f8e00@mail.pi.se> X-Sender: h1919@mail.pi.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 19:20:37 +0200 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Knut Gangstad Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing all even, then all odd pages In-Reply-To: <9FC4AB5D4CF2D011981F00A0246B63971CE96C@sfi-exch.sputtered- films.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 have a look at http://www.digidox.com/html/products/digidozn.htm there's a print odd/even plug in. Am trying to download it myself at this very moment, so I cannot say how it works yet. /Knut At 09:54 1997-10-03 -0700, you wrote: > >After a question, a quick look, and surprise; I can't figure out how to >print all even pages (and all odd) in order to back-to-back pages of a >manual in pdf. I've tried both exchange and reader. >Is it possible? > >Thanks in advance >Don Rose >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > * knut.gangstad@maxcap.se * +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 17:46:48-GMT,1324;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15704 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:46:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA25471; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:44:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:38:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25014; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:38:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:29:10 -0400 Message-ID: <00017842.1618@bowne.com> From: Raul.Rodriguez@bowne.com (Raul Rodriguez) Subject: [PDF] Distiller Options To: "'PDF-List'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Win95, where are the Distiller options stored? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 17:51:02-GMT,2368;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15788 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:51:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA24937; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:37:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:30:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA24706; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:30:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971003193020.009f6100@mail.pi.se> X-Sender: h1919@mail.pi.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 19:30:20 +0200 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Knut Gangstad Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? In-Reply-To: <199710031726.LAA19552@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A couple of days ago someone (I think his name was Scott something) mentioned he had converted to QuickTime using GraphicConverter with good results. Maybe that can help (GraphicConverter is a shareware). /Knut At 11:15 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: > >Does anyone know how to get around the limitations of Acrobat 3.0 re >animated gifs? >For example, Is there a way to convert an animated gif to a mov? Other >ideas? >Bev > >Bev Mitchell >Department of Biological Sciences >University of Alberta >Edmonton, Alberta >http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/homepg/bkmhome.html >Canada >T6G 2E9 > >Phone: 403-492-4637 >Fax: 403-492-9234 >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > * knut.gangstad@maxcap.se * +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 18:09:15-GMT,2185;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16251 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:09:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA26681; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:08:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:03:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA26217; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:03:25 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:03:42 -0500 To: pdf-announce@lists.emrg.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF-ANC] Emerge EXTRA v.2, n.15 TOC Sender: owner-pdf-announce@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf-announce@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Emerge EXTRA 10/2/97 is now available on the Web at: http://www.emrg.com/new/extra92597.html The current issue features: - Adobe PageMaker and QuarkXPress Upgrades Embrace PDF - Call NOW for your Adobe Acrobat v.3.01 CD! - Emerge Announces PDF Alliances at Seybold '97 - PDF-based Poll on New TV Content Ratings - "Cost-Justifying Acrobat Capture" Report - New Email Discussion List for Acrobat Developers Past issues also available at: http://www.emrg.com/new/extra.html _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ --> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <-- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.emrg.com/ ========================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + + Send questions or feedback to: mailto:web-ed@emrg.com + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 18:09:24-GMT,1798;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16255 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:09:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA25832; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:55:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:49:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25580; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:49:04 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971003175304.006a5254@dg85.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@dg85.fourgen.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 10:53:04 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller Options Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All Distiller options are in the Windows Registry. There is no acrodist.ini, like there is Win3.11. 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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:03:57 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For what it's worth, it isn't really an Acrobat limitation (though indeed, it doesn;'t know what an animated GIF is). You almost always make a PDF file by PRINTING (via PDFWriter or Distiller). Printers don't do animation, so browsers don't print animated GIFs. They print the first frame (Netscape/Explorer) or last frame (Sun's Java), or something else. And that's what makes it into the PDF file - no longer a GIF of any kind, just a generic bitmap. I'd think a tool like Premiere can do that conversion, though check first! On Friday, October 03, 1997 18:15, Bev Mitchell [SMTP:bev.mitchell@ualberta.ca] wrote: > > Does anyone know how to get around the limitations of Acrobat 3.0 re > animated gifs? > For example, Is there a way to convert an animated gif to a mov? Other > ideas? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 19:20:24-GMT,3524;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18038 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:20:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA29378; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:19:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:13:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA29088; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:12:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3435525C.2C2@inx.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 15:15:26 -0500 From: Matthew Parker Organization: NetFormation, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Emerge EXTRA v.2, n.15 TOC References: <21C01735EF2DD111A8E4006097D17C4B05AB98@EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I noticed that too. A quick and logical change of the date on the URL gave me the current listing: Go to: http://www.emrg.com/new/extra100297.html Matthew Parker NetFormation, Inc. http://www.netformation.com Gibson, Stephanie wrote: > > This web site is pointing to last week's Emerge Extra file. > > ---------- > From:   Kurt Foss[SMTP:kfoss@pdfzone.com] > Reply To:       pdf@lists.emrg.com > Sent:   Friday, October 03, 1997 2:02 PM > To:     pdf@lists.emrg.com; capture@lists.emrg.com; > pdf-announce@lists.emrg.com; pdfdev@lists.emrg.com > Subject:        [PDF] Emerge EXTRA v.2, n.15 TOC > > Emerge EXTRA 10/2/97 is now available on the Web at: > > http://www.emrg.com/new/extra92597.html > > The current issue features: > > - Adobe PageMaker and QuarkXPress Upgrades Embrace PDF > - Call NOW for your Adobe Acrobat v.3.01 CD! > - Emerge Announces PDF Alliances at Seybold '97 > - PDF-based Poll on New TV Content Ratings > - "Cost-Justifying Acrobat Capture" Report > - New Email Discussion List for Acrobat Developers > > Past issues also available at:  > http://www.emrg.com/new/extra.html > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ >          --> T h e  E m e r g e  P D F z o n e <-- >              "Solutions for PDF Professionals" > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > Kurt Foss               Internet Communications Manager > EMERGE                  (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 > 579 D'Onofrio Drive     FAX: (608)829-3561 > Suite 101               EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com > Madison, WI 53719       WWW: http://www.emrg.com/ > ========================================================== > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +  PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists                + > +  Subscribe or unsubscribe at:  > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html  + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 19:58:43-GMT,1452;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18959 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA30157; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:42:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:36:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA29790; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:36:09 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <21C01735EF2DD111A8E4006097D17C4B05AB98@EXCHANGE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:36:27 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: RE: [PDF] Emerge EXTRA v.2, n.15 TOC Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >This web site is pointing to last week's Emerge Extra file. Just testing you all! ;-} Maybe try ... http://www.emrg.com/new/extra100297.html rgds -- and apologies ~ Kurt +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 21:28:02-GMT,5013;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20993 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:28:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA00224; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:27:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:16:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA32538; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:16:52 -0500 X-Sender: jjones@interaccess.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:24:49 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: jjones@bookends.com (John L. Jones) Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-1-97 [V2 #41] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA32535 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:10:42 -0400 >From: "Gibson, Stephanie" >Subject: [PDF] bibliography/citation usage crediting a web site >Have an urgent need. I need to know how to list a web site in a >bibliography/citation. I've checked all my styleguides, including those >written specifically for web publication, to no avail. HELP!!! > >stef > > Stephanie (and listserv members), Here's a list of sources compliled by someone else. Citations cover the gamut based on your specific area of interest (history, social studies, etc.). Apologies to listserv members for taking up the space here rather than via private response, but since this is an area for publishing, others might appreciate the source too. Citation Guides for Electronic Documents APA and MLA Citation Styles. URL: http://www.utexas.edu/depts/uwc/.html/citation.html APA Publication Manual Crib Sheet. Check near the end of the document. URL: http://www.gasou.edu/psychweb/tipsheet/apacrib.htm Bibliography Styles from the University of Illinois Writers' Workshop On-Line Handbook. URL: gopher://gopher.uiuc.edu:70/11/Libraries/writers/i CyberCitations. URL: http://kalama.doe.hawaii.edu/hern95/rt007/ Guides to Electronic Citation Style. William Paterson College, New Jersey. URL: http://www.wilpaterson.edu/wpcpages/library/ref.htm Suggestions from the LINGUIST Listserv. February 1995. URL: http://lamp.cs.utas.edu.au/citation.txt Beckleheimer, Jeff. How Do You Cite URL's in a Bibliography? URL: http://www.nrlssc.navy.mil/meta/bibliography.html Crouse, Maurice. Citing Electronic Information in History Papers. URL: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~crousem/elcite.txt Dodd, Sue A. Bibliographic References for Computer Files in the Social Sciences: A Discussion Paper. Revised May 1990. {Published in *IASSIST Quarterly*, 14, 2(1990): 14-17. URL: gopher://info.monash. edu.au:70/00/handy/cites Gingery, Bruce. Uniform Resource Locators - URLs. URL: http://metro.turnpike.net/bagingry/URLs.html International Organization for Standardization (ISO). Excerpts from ISO Draft International Standard 690-2 - Information and documentation - Bibliographic references - Electronic documents or parts thereof URL: http://www.nlc-bnc.ca/iso/tc46sc9/standard/690-2e.htm Land, T. Web Extension to American Psychological Association Style (WEAPAS). Proposed standard for referencing online documents in scientific publications. Revision December 10, 1995. URL: http://www.nyu.edu/pages/psychology/WEAPAS/ Li, Xia and Crane, Nancy. Bibliographic Formats for Citing Electronic Information. URL: http://www.uvm.edu/~xli/reference/estyles.html Page, Melvin E. A Brief Citation Guide for Internet Sources in History and the Humanities. URL: http://www.sfu.ca/politics/cite.html Universite Laval. Comment citer un document électronique? URL: http://www.bibl.ulaval.ca/doelec/citedoce.html University of Alberta. Citation Style Guides for Internet and Electronic Sources. URL: http://libits.library.ualberta.ca/library_html/help/pathfinders/style/stylet i.html University of Tennessee. School of Information Science Style Guide. URL: http://cobweb.utcc.utk.edu/~hoemann/style.html Wainwright, Marl. Citation Style for Internet Sources. URL: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/maw13/citation.html Walker, Janice. MLA-Style Citations of Electronic Sources. URL: http://www.cas.usf.edu/english/walker/mla.html John L. 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Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Have tried to download the GraphicConverter. However, this utility seems to be for Macs only. Does anyone know of a similar utility for PCs? Annette At 07:30 PM 10/03/97 +0200, you wrote: > >A couple of days ago someone (I think his name was Scott something) >mentioned he had converted to QuickTime using GraphicConverter with good >results. > >Maybe that can help (GraphicConverter is a shareware). > > /Knut > > > >At 11:15 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: >> >>Does anyone know how to get around the limitations of Acrobat 3.0 re >>animated gifs? >>For example, Is there a way to convert an animated gif to a mov? Other >>ideas? >>Bev >> >>Bev Mitchell >>Department of Biological Sciences >>University of Alberta >>Edmonton, Alberta >>http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/homepg/bkmhome.html >>Canada >>T6G 2E9 >> >>Phone: 403-492-4637 >>Fax: 403-492-9234 >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >> > * >knut.gangstad@maxcap.se > * >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Oct-1997 0:53:35-GMT,3927;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25677 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:53:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04876; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:53:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:46:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04337; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:46:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199710040046.SAA23224@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:47:19 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 So did I. It took forever, even at the office and it does seem to be Mac only. It unzipped (or rather unstuffed) but no joy on the installation. It would be great if we could have such a facility (animated gif to mov) and the GraphicConverter info pages suggest that it does this. Any Mac users out there who can help out on this one? On another tack, I just picked up a copy of Adobe Premiere and will check to see what can be done with it. Bev ---------- > From: Annette Larke > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? > Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 5:56 PM > > > Have tried to download the GraphicConverter. However, this utility seems > to be for Macs only. > > Does anyone know of a similar utility for PCs? > > Annette > > At 07:30 PM 10/03/97 +0200, you wrote: > > > >A couple of days ago someone (I think his name was Scott something) > >mentioned he had converted to QuickTime using GraphicConverter with good > >results. > > > >Maybe that can help (GraphicConverter is a shareware). > > > > /Knut > > > > > > > >At 11:15 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: > >> > >>Does anyone know how to get around the limitations of Acrobat 3.0 re > >>animated gifs? > >>For example, Is there a way to convert an animated gif to a mov? Other > >>ideas? > >>Bev > >> > >>Bev Mitchell > >>Department of Biological Sciences > >>University of Alberta > >>Edmonton, Alberta > >>http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/homepg/bkmhome.html > >>Canada > >>T6G 2E9 > >> > >>Phone: 403-492-4637 > >>Fax: 403-492-9234 > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- + > >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- + > >> > >> > > * > >knut.gangstad@maxcap.se > > * > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Oct-1997 1:07:44-GMT,4826;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25958 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:07:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA05527; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:07:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:00:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05117; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:00:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199710040101.TAA14550@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:02:09 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Just checked the Premiere 4.0 book. The only Animation files it imports are: .flc, .fli (AutoDesk); and series of numbered images in the following formats: .tga,.bmp,.rel,.dib and .tif . Nice, but (groan) no gif. Bev ---------- > From: Bev Mitchell > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? > Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 6:47 PM > > > So did I. It took forever, even at the office and it does seem to be Mac > only. It unzipped (or rather unstuffed) but no joy on the installation. It > would be great if we could have such a facility (animated gif to mov) and > the GraphicConverter info pages suggest that it does this. Any Mac users > out there who can help out on this one? > On another tack, I just picked up a copy of Adobe Premiere and will check > to see what can be done with it. > Bev > > ---------- > > From: Annette Larke > > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > > Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? > > Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 5:56 PM > > > > > > Have tried to download the GraphicConverter. However, this utility seems > > to be for Macs only. > > > > Does anyone know of a similar utility for PCs? > > > > Annette > > > > At 07:30 PM 10/03/97 +0200, you wrote: > > > > > >A couple of days ago someone (I think his name was Scott something) > > >mentioned he had converted to QuickTime using GraphicConverter with good > > >results. > > > > > >Maybe that can help (GraphicConverter is a shareware). > > > > > > /Knut > > > > > > > > > > > >At 11:15 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: > > >> > > >>Does anyone know how to get around the limitations of Acrobat 3.0 re > > >>animated gifs? > > >>For example, Is there a way to convert an animated gif to a mov? Other > > >>ideas? > > >>Bev > > >> > > >>Bev Mitchell > > >>Department of Biological Sciences > > >>University of Alberta > > >>Edmonton, Alberta > > >>http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/homepg/bkmhome.html > > >>Canada > > >>T6G 2E9 > > >> > > >>Phone: 403-492-4637 > > >>Fax: 403-492-9234 > > > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- > + > > >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > > >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > > > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- > + > > >> > > >> > > > * > > >knut.gangstad@maxcap.se > > > * > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html > + > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html > + > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Oct-1997 10:39:52-GMT,5543;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05825 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 04:39:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA13481; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 05:39:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Oct 1997 05:30:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA13088; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 05:30:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971004123003.009f44a0@mail.pi.se> X-Sender: h1919@mail.pi.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 12:30:03 +0200 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Knut Gangstad Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? In-Reply-To: <199710040101.TAA14550@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There's a plug in for premiere for creating animated gif's at http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/premiere/animplugin.html but that was not really the issue. At 19:02 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: > >Just checked the Premiere 4.0 book. The only Animation files it imports >are: >.flc, .fli (AutoDesk); and series of numbered images in the following >formats: .tga,.bmp,.rel,.dib and .tif . Nice, but (groan) no gif. >Bev > >---------- >> From: Bev Mitchell >> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >> Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? >> Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 6:47 PM >> >> >> So did I. It took forever, even at the office and it does seem to be Mac >> only. It unzipped (or rather unstuffed) but no joy on the installation. >It >> would be great if we could have such a facility (animated gif to mov) and >> the GraphicConverter info pages suggest that it does this. Any Mac users >> out there who can help out on this one? >> On another tack, I just picked up a copy of Adobe Premiere and will check >> to see what can be done with it. >> Bev >> >> ---------- >> > From: Annette Larke >> > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >> > Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? >> > Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 5:56 PM >> > >> > >> > Have tried to download the GraphicConverter. However, this utility >seems >> > to be for Macs only. >> > >> > Does anyone know of a similar utility for PCs? >> > >> > Annette >> > >> > At 07:30 PM 10/03/97 +0200, you wrote: >> > > >> > >A couple of days ago someone (I think his name was Scott something) >> > >mentioned he had converted to QuickTime using GraphicConverter with >good >> > >results. >> > > >> > >Maybe that can help (GraphicConverter is a shareware). >> > > >> > > /Knut >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >At 11:15 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: >> > >> >> > >>Does anyone know how to get around the limitations of Acrobat 3.0 re >> > >>animated gifs? >> > >>For example, Is there a way to convert an animated gif to a mov? >Other >> > >>ideas? >> > >>Bev >> > >> >> > >>Bev Mitchell >> > >>Department of Biological Sciences >> > >>University of Alberta >> > >>Edmonton, Alberta >> > >>http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/homepg/bkmhome.html >> > >>Canada >> > >>T6G 2E9 >> > >> >> > >>Phone: 403-492-4637 >> > >>Fax: 403-492-9234 >> > >> >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> + >> > >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > >> + >> > >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >> http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >> > >> >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> + >> > >> >> > >> >> > > * >> > >knut.gangstad@maxcap.se >> > > * >> > >> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >> >> > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > >> + >> > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >> + >> > >> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > >> + >> > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >> + >> > >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >+ >> + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >+ >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > * knut.gangstad@maxcap.se * +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Oct-1997 11:41:23-GMT,6120;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06728 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 05:41:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA14514; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:40:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:34:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA14192; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:34:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:34:26 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199710041134.VAA25312@magna.com.au> X-Sender: larke@magna.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Annette Larke Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Well, if the plugin enables Premiere to open animated GIF files and you can save those animated GIFS to .mov files, then it is highly relevant. Annette At 12:30 PM 10/04/97 +0200, you wrote: > >There's a plug in for premiere for creating animated gif's at >http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/premiere/animplugin.html but that was not >really the issue. > > > > > >At 19:02 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: >> >>Just checked the Premiere 4.0 book. The only Animation files it imports >>are: >>.flc, .fli (AutoDesk); and series of numbered images in the following >>formats: .tga,.bmp,.rel,.dib and .tif . Nice, but (groan) no gif. >>Bev >> >>---------- >>> From: Bev Mitchell >>> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >>> Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? >>> Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 6:47 PM >>> >>> >>> So did I. It took forever, even at the office and it does seem to be Mac >>> only. It unzipped (or rather unstuffed) but no joy on the installation. >>It >>> would be great if we could have such a facility (animated gif to mov) and >>> the GraphicConverter info pages suggest that it does this. Any Mac users >>> out there who can help out on this one? >>> On another tack, I just picked up a copy of Adobe Premiere and will check >>> to see what can be done with it. >>> Bev >>> >>> ---------- >>> > From: Annette Larke >>> > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >>> > Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? >>> > Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 5:56 PM >>> > >>> > >>> > Have tried to download the GraphicConverter. However, this utility >>seems >>> > to be for Macs only. >>> > >>> > Does anyone know of a similar utility for PCs? >>> > >>> > Annette >>> > >>> > At 07:30 PM 10/03/97 +0200, you wrote: >>> > > >>> > >A couple of days ago someone (I think his name was Scott something) >>> > >mentioned he had converted to QuickTime using GraphicConverter with >>good >>> > >results. >>> > > >>> > >Maybe that can help (GraphicConverter is a shareware). >>> > > >>> > > /Knut >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >At 11:15 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >>Does anyone know how to get around the limitations of Acrobat 3.0 re >>> > >>animated gifs? >>> > >>For example, Is there a way to convert an animated gif to a mov? >>Other >>> > >>ideas? >>> > >>Bev >>> > >> >>> > >>Bev Mitchell >>> > >>Department of Biological Sciences >>> > >>University of Alberta >>> > >>Edmonton, Alberta >>> > >>http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/homepg/bkmhome.html >>> > >>Canada >>> > >>T6G 2E9 >>> > >> >>> > >>Phone: 403-492-4637 >>> > >>Fax: 403-492-9234 >>> > >>> >>>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> + >>> > >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >> >>> + >>> > >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >>> http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >>> > >>> >>>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> + >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > * >>> > >knut.gangstad@maxcap.se >>> > > * >>> > >>> >>>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >>> >>> > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >> >>> + >>> > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >>http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >>> + >>> > >>> >>>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >>> >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>> > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >> >>> + >>> > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >>http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >>> + >>> > >>> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>> >>> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >>+ >>> + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >>+ >>> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >> > * >knut.gangstad@maxcap.se > * >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Oct-1997 12:05:10-GMT,1934;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07100 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:05:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA15207; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 07:04:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:57:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA14803; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:57:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199710041158.GAA04036@dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch Update of General Info fields Date: Sat, 4 Oct 97 08:06:50 -0400 x-sender: dcaverly@popd.ix.netcom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Darwin Caverly To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>I have a requirement to update the title field (in the General Info >>dialog) in about 200 PDF files and I don't want to do it manually. >> >>I want to append text in the field--not replace it. Basically, I need >>the text to be inserted at the end of the text that is already in the >>field. >> >>I noticed Ambia's Compose has a batch utility but it looks like it just >>replaces text in the fields. >> >>Does anyone know of another solution? >> >>Glenn >>weir@platinum.com Glenn, If you happen to be on a Mac, I have an applescript that will do it. Best Regards Darwin Caverly Best Regards Darwin Caverly Husqvarna Forest & Garden +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Oct-1997 12:31:04-GMT,2444;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07494 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:31:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA15873; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 07:30:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Oct 1997 07:23:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15512; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 07:23:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199710041224.OAA20144@mail.hamburg.roses.de> Subject: RE: [PDF] Dum Question: What's an Article? Date: Sat, 4 Oct 97 14:33:19 +0100 x-sender: ham01053@mail.hamburg.roses.de x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Elmar K=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=fcnzel?= To: "PDF listserver" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA15509 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Article are the best solution to offer an readable document. Bookmarks don't work in a single page layout, when the bookmark is on the bottom of the side. They require that the user scroll and has problems, when a prospect, which often has multi colums, should be readable from a CD. A normal costumer, not a enthusiastic computer monkey(:-)), who stick around with that, is tired and print it out. The result: More paper, Less trees and more rubbish. To convince more people to distribute paperless document on a CD, articles are the only solution for that. Bookmarks are in most cases an alibi for software producers who want to save money instead of printing a manual. The handling only with bookmarks is not as good as by a real book. And that is the only thing that mattersŠ Unfortunately no plug-in is available to automate the producing of articles. The first who offer an affordable and intelligent solution could be the winner. Elmar Kuenzel DPS +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Oct-1997 14:29:11-GMT,1795;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09363 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 08:29:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA17887; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 09:28:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Oct 1997 09:20:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17436; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 09:20:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971004162025.009a9610@mail.pi.se> X-Sender: h1919@mail.pi.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 16:20:25 +0200 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Knut Gangstad Subject: [PDF] Action from list boxes in form In-Reply-To: <199710041224.OAA20144@mail.hamburg.roses.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I want to be able to choose a value (company name) from a list box and open that company file automatically. Ex in the text box I can choose A ltd, B ltd, C ltd etc Having chosen B ltd, the file with info about B ltd shall be opened (at mouse up probably). The only thing I found was to make one action regardless of what I chose in the text box. Can export value be used?? * knut.gangstad@maxcap.se * +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Oct-1997 16:47:21-GMT,7156;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11593 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 10:47:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA20305; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:46:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:38:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA19916; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:38:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199710041638.KAA19530@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 10:39:18 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Unfortunately, it does not appear that Premiere can open (import) animated gifs. It does produce them with the help of the plugin already mentioned. Bev ---------- > From: Annette Larke > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? > Date: Saturday, October 04, 1997 5:34 AM > > > Well, if the plugin enables Premiere to open animated GIF files > and you can save those animated GIFS to .mov files, then it is highly > relevant. > > Annette > > At 12:30 PM 10/04/97 +0200, you wrote: > > > >There's a plug in for premiere for creating animated gif's at > >http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/premiere/animplugin.html but that was not > >really the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > >At 19:02 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: > >> > >>Just checked the Premiere 4.0 book. The only Animation files it imports > >>are: > >>.flc, .fli (AutoDesk); and series of numbered images in the following > >>formats: .tga,.bmp,.rel,.dib and .tif . Nice, but (groan) no gif. > >>Bev > >> > >>---------- > >>> From: Bev Mitchell > >>> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > >>> Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? > >>> Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 6:47 PM > >>> > >>> > >>> So did I. It took forever, even at the office and it does seem to be Mac > >>> only. It unzipped (or rather unstuffed) but no joy on the installation. > >>It > >>> would be great if we could have such a facility (animated gif to mov) and > >>> the GraphicConverter info pages suggest that it does this. Any Mac users > >>> out there who can help out on this one? > >>> On another tack, I just picked up a copy of Adobe Premiere and will check > >>> to see what can be done with it. > >>> Bev > >>> > >>> ---------- > >>> > From: Annette Larke > >>> > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > >>> > Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? > >>> > Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 5:56 PM > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Have tried to download the GraphicConverter. However, this utility > >>seems > >>> > to be for Macs only. > >>> > > >>> > Does anyone know of a similar utility for PCs? > >>> > > >>> > Annette > >>> > > >>> > At 07:30 PM 10/03/97 +0200, you wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > >A couple of days ago someone (I think his name was Scott something) > >>> > >mentioned he had converted to QuickTime using GraphicConverter with > >>good > >>> > >results. > >>> > > > >>> > >Maybe that can help (GraphicConverter is a shareware). > >>> > > > >>> > > /Knut > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >At 11:15 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: > >>> > >> > >>> > >>Does anyone know how to get around the limitations of Acrobat 3.0 re > >>> > >>animated gifs? > >>> > >>For example, Is there a way to convert an animated gif to a mov? > >>Other > >>> > >>ideas? > >>> > >>Bev > >>> > >> > >>> > >>Bev Mitchell > >>> > >>Department of Biological Sciences > >>> > >>University of Alberta > >>> > >>Edmonton, Alberta > >>> > >>http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/homepg/bkmhome.html > >>> > >>Canada > >>> > >>T6G 2E9 > >>> > >> > >>> > >>Phone: 403-492-4637 > >>> > >>Fax: 403-492-9234 > >>> > > >>> > >>>>+----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > >> > >>> + > >>> > >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > >> > >>> + > >>> > >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > >>> http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > >>> > > >>> > >>>>+----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > >> > >>> + > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > > * > >>> > >knut.gangstad@maxcap.se > >>> > > * > >>> > > >>> > >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------ -+ > >> > >>> > >>> > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > >> > >>> + > >>> > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > >>http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html > >>> + > >>> > > >>> > >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------ -+ > >> > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- + > >>> > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > >> > >>> + > >>> > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > >>http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html > >>> + > >>> > > >>> > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- + > >>> > >>> > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- + > >>> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > >>+ > >>> + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html > >>+ > >>> > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- + > >> > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- + > >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- + > >> > >> > > * > >knut.gangstad@maxcap.se > > * > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Oct-1997 17:13:00-GMT,8080;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12010 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:12:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA21000; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 12:12:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Oct 1997 12:04:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20695; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 12:04:30 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971004190407.009f4df0@mail.pi.se> X-Sender: h1919@mail.pi.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 19:04:07 +0200 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Knut Gangstad Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? In-Reply-To: <199710041638.KAA19530@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Maybe this works: >From any one of the usual gif animating programs, you can save each gif as a separate file (Ulead Gif Animator, Alchemy GIF construction set, MS GIF animator, etc). After that you can use f ex premiere or other QT creator to create QT. Good Luck /Knut At 10:39 1997-10-04 -0600, you wrote: > >Unfortunately, it does not appear that Premiere can open (import) animated >gifs. It does produce them with the help of the plugin already mentioned. >Bev > >---------- >> From: Annette Larke >> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >> Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? >> Date: Saturday, October 04, 1997 5:34 AM >> >> >> Well, if the plugin enables Premiere to open animated GIF files >> and you can save those animated GIFS to .mov files, then it is highly >> relevant. >> >> Annette >> >> At 12:30 PM 10/04/97 +0200, you wrote: >> > >> >There's a plug in for premiere for creating animated gif's at >> >http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/premiere/animplugin.html but that was not >> >really the issue. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >At 19:02 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: >> >> >> >>Just checked the Premiere 4.0 book. The only Animation files it imports >> >>are: >> >>.flc, .fli (AutoDesk); and series of numbered images in the following >> >>formats: .tga,.bmp,.rel,.dib and .tif . Nice, but (groan) no gif. >> >>Bev >> >> >> >>---------- >> >>> From: Bev Mitchell >> >>> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >> >>> Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? >> >>> Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 6:47 PM >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> So did I. It took forever, even at the office and it does seem to be >Mac >> >>> only. It unzipped (or rather unstuffed) but no joy on the >installation. >> >>It >> >>> would be great if we could have such a facility (animated gif to mov) >and >> >>> the GraphicConverter info pages suggest that it does this. Any Mac >users >> >>> out there who can help out on this one? >> >>> On another tack, I just picked up a copy of Adobe Premiere and will >check >> >>> to see what can be done with it. >> >>> Bev >> >>> >> >>> ---------- >> >>> > From: Annette Larke >> >>> > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >> >>> > Subject: Re: [PDF] Animated Gifs and PDF? >> >>> > Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 5:56 PM >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Have tried to download the GraphicConverter. However, this utility >> >>seems >> >>> > to be for Macs only. >> >>> > >> >>> > Does anyone know of a similar utility for PCs? >> >>> > >> >>> > Annette >> >>> > >> >>> > At 07:30 PM 10/03/97 +0200, you wrote: >> >>> > > >> >>> > >A couple of days ago someone (I think his name was Scott >something) >> >>> > >mentioned he had converted to QuickTime using GraphicConverter >with >> >>good >> >>> > >results. >> >>> > > >> >>> > >Maybe that can help (GraphicConverter is a shareware). >> >>> > > >> >>> > > /Knut >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >At 11:15 1997-10-03 -0600, you wrote: >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >>Does anyone know how to get around the limitations of Acrobat 3.0 >re >> >>> > >>animated gifs? >> >>> > >>For example, Is there a way to convert an animated gif to a mov? >> >>Other >> >>> > >>ideas? >> >>> > >>Bev >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >>Bev Mitchell >> >>> > >>Department of Biological Sciences >> >>> > >>University of Alberta >> >>> > >>Edmonton, Alberta >> >>> > >>http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/homepg/bkmhome.html >> >>> > >>Canada >> >>> > >>T6G 2E9 >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >>Phone: 403-492-4637 >> >>> > >>Fax: 403-492-9234 >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>>>+----------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- >> >> >> >>> + >> >>> > >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > >> >> >> >>> + >> >>> > >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >> >>> http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>>>+----------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- >> >> >> >>> + >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > > * >> >>> > >knut.gangstad@maxcap.se >> >>> > > * >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-+ >> >> >> >>> >> >>> > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > >> >> >> >>> + >> >>> > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >> >>http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >> >>> + >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-+ >> >> >> >>> >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- >+ >> >>> > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > >> >> >> >>> + >> >>> > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >> >>http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >> >>> + >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- >+ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- >+ >> >>> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > >> >>+ >> >>> + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >> >>+ >> >>> >> >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- >+ >> >> >> >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- >+ >> >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + >> >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >> >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------- >+ >> >> >> >> >> > * >> >knut.gangstad@maxcap.se >> > * >> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >> >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + >> >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html > + >> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >> > >> > >> >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >+ >> + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >+ >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > * knut.gangstad@maxcap.se * +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Oct-1997 14:30:14-GMT,2770;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02696 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 08:30:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03424; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 09:29:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Oct 1997 09:17:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03029; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 09:17:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199710051417.IAA22602@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: "PDFlist PDFlist" Subject: [PDF] GIF to MOV update Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 08:18:30 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks everybody for your helpful suggestions re animated GIF to MOV conversion. You may recall that the original need for such a convertor was to enable incorporation of animated GIF illustrations of biological processes into Adobe Acrobat for classroom presentation. Acrobat will link to and play MOV files but not animated GIFS. Here's the progress so far. 1) A viable work around for classroom presentation is to include the animated GIF in a small html file and set a link from a PDF page to that file. The browser opens nicely and plays the GIF and a single click returns you to Acrobat. 2) The suggestion to 'deconstruct' the GIF, import into Premiere and make a MOV file from there was partly fruitful. It led me to the ULead GIF animator which turns out to be a good addition to the list of utility multimedia software. It separates an animated GIF into component files without hassle. However, Premiere wants to import a stack of BMPs rather than GIFs. I'm looking for a batch processor that will do GIF to BMP, then this cycle should be viable. 3) I'm currently checking out CyberManager95 which I found after a helpful tip on the multimedia welfare site at http://multimedia.wefcorp.com/medframe.html Cheers, Bev Bev Mitchell Department of Biological Sciences University of Alberta Edmonton, AB Canada T6G 2E9 403-432-9583 bev.mitchell@ualberta.ca http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/bkmhome.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Oct-1997 14:43:37-GMT,3331;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02900 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 08:43:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA04069; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 09:42:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Oct 1997 09:35:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03609; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 09:35:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971005163443.009f42d0@mail.pi.se> X-Sender: h1919@mail.pi.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 16:34:43 +0200 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Knut Gangstad Subject: Re: [PDF] GIF to MOV update In-Reply-To: <199710051417.IAA22602@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 One good batch converter for GIF to BMP is PSP (Paint Shop Pro). It's good on other things as well. /Knut At 08:18 1997-10-05 -0600, you wrote: > >Thanks everybody for your helpful suggestions re animated GIF to MOV >conversion. You may recall that the original need for such a convertor was >to enable incorporation of animated GIF illustrations of biological >processes into Adobe Acrobat for classroom presentation. Acrobat will link >to and play MOV files but not animated GIFS. > >Here's the progress so far. >1) A viable work around for classroom presentation is to include the >animated GIF in a small html file and set a link from a PDF page to that >file. The browser opens nicely and plays the GIF and a single click returns >you to Acrobat. >2) The suggestion to 'deconstruct' the GIF, import into Premiere and make a >MOV file from there was partly fruitful. It led me to the ULead GIF >animator which turns out to be a good addition to the list of utility >multimedia software. It separates an animated GIF into component files >without hassle. However, Premiere wants to import a stack of BMPs rather >than GIFs. I'm looking for a batch processor that will do GIF to BMP, then >this cycle should be viable. >3) I'm currently checking out CyberManager95 which I found after a helpful >tip on the multimedia welfare site at >http://multimedia.wefcorp.com/medframe.html > >Cheers, >Bev > >Bev Mitchell >Department of Biological Sciences >University of Alberta >Edmonton, AB >Canada >T6G 2E9 > >403-432-9583 >bev.mitchell@ualberta.ca >http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/bkmhome.html >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > * knut.gangstad@maxcap.se * +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Oct-1997 16:33:13-GMT,1550;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04734 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 10:33:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA05734; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:32:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:24:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05358; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:24:00 -0500 X-Sender: jhbauer@akula.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BCCF29.1024FEC0@hd67-141.hil.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 12:24:23 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Jonathan Bauer Subject: [PDF] batch process tiff to .pdf (mac) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi: I have a couple of hundred files saved as tiff. Anyone know of a way to convert them to .pdf files shrt of opening them one by one in photoshop and printing to .pdf? This on a mac. TIA, /jonathan mailto:jhbauer@akula.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Oct-1997 18:01:04-GMT,2042;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06182 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 12:01:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07155; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 12:59:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Oct 1997 12:48:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06768; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 12:48:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3437D2F0.2B05@document-solutions.com> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 10:48:32 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] batch process tiff to .pdf (mac) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jonathan Bauer wrote: > I have a couple of hundred files saved as tiff. Anyone know of a way to > convert them to .pdf files shrt of opening them one by one in photoshop and > printing to .pdf? This on a mac. > > TIA, Yes. Buy a Wintel machine and a copy of Acrobat Capture 2.0. There is (I believe) a Capture plug-in for the Mac, available with Acrobat 3.0, but if you need more than a few pages converted, it's not the way to go. -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Oct-1997 18:24:56-GMT,3771;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06616 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 12:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA08020; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 13:24:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Oct 1997 13:15:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07689; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 13:15:35 -0500 X-Sender: osa\fharri\fharris@mail.osa.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 14:26:46 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: fharri@osa.org (Frank Harris) Subject: Re: [PDF] GIF to MOV update Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks for all of this useful information. I'd like to add one tidbit. We have tried doing Web links from PDF files to GIF animations on our WWW server. This works fine for Macs and Win 3.1, but locks up with Win 95. Thanks for the tip on GraphiConverter. Since I have a Mac, I've found my answer. I'll upgrade soon (I've been using GC v1.78 for 3 years). Sincerely, F. E. Harris >Thanks everybody for your helpful suggestions re animated GIF to MOV >conversion. You may recall that the original need for such a convertor was >to enable incorporation of animated GIF illustrations of biological >processes into Adobe Acrobat for classroom presentation. Acrobat will link >to and play MOV files but not animated GIFS. > >Here's the progress so far. >1) A viable work around for classroom presentation is to include the >animated GIF in a small html file and set a link from a PDF page to that >file. The browser opens nicely and plays the GIF and a single click returns >you to Acrobat. >2) The suggestion to 'deconstruct' the GIF, import into Premiere and make a >MOV file from there was partly fruitful. It led me to the ULead GIF >animator which turns out to be a good addition to the list of utility >multimedia software. It separates an animated GIF into component files >without hassle. However, Premiere wants to import a stack of BMPs rather >than GIFs. I'm looking for a batch processor that will do GIF to BMP, then >this cycle should be viable. >3) I'm currently checking out CyberManager95 which I found after a helpful >tip on the multimedia welfare site at >http://multimedia.wefcorp.com/medframe.html > >Cheers, >Bev > >Bev Mitchell >Department of Biological Sciences >University of Alberta >Edmonton, AB >Canada >T6G 2E9 > >403-432-9583 >bev.mitchell@ualberta.ca >http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/bkmhome.html >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org 2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org ------------------------- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Oct-1997 19:10:21-GMT,3036;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07453 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 13:10:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA09029; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 14:09:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Oct 1997 14:00:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08723; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 14:00:05 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971004030405.006d2368@singnet.com.sg> X-Sender: johnlui@singnet.com.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 03:04:05 +0800 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: John Lui Subject: Re: [PDF] batch process tiff to .pdf (mac) In-Reply-To: <3437D2F0.2B05@document-solutions.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 10:48 AM 10/5/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Jonathan Bauer wrote: > >> I have a couple of hundred files saved as tiff. Anyone know of a way to >> convert them to .pdf files shrt of opening them one by one in photoshop and >> printing to .pdf? This on a mac. >> >> TIA, > >Yes. Buy a Wintel machine and a copy of Acrobat Capture 2.0. There is >(I believe) a Capture plug-in for the Mac, available with Acrobat 3.0, >but if you need more than a few pages converted, it's not the way to go. > >-- > >regards, > >Duff Johnson > Or, check out Applescript (currently not available on the Wintel platform ;) ). I have a script with allows artists at the newspaper I work for to batch save Illustrator 6 files as PDF. Because no Adobe product, including Photoshop, natively supports Applescripting (shame on Adobe), I use a third party app called PreFab Player which simulates menu pulldowns and button clicks. It's a slick product which supports if-then statements. Check out Player at: <> They give lots of examples on how to script Photoshop, Illustrator etc. You may also wish to look at Freehand 7, which supports scripting natively. Macromedia's product should batch convert your tiffs quite easily, so long as you install the free PDF plugin. Applescript also lets you to batch rename your new PDF files and automatically move them to a designated folder. You can also set up a watch folder which converts anything placed in it, or make it batch process at 2 am on a networked Mac when all Wintel users - and their hardware - are asleep. John Lui Seong Onn Singapore Press Holdings +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 1:19:38-GMT,2708;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13812 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:19:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA13890; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:18:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:02:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA13579; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:02:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199710060102.TAA03617@sportsurf.net> X-Authentication-Warning: sportsurf.net: Host sss.pittsburgh.net [192.204.56.156] claimed to be [192.204.56.156] Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing all even, then all odd pages Date: Sun, 5 Oct 97 21:12:01 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >... I can't figure out how to >print all even pages (and all odd) in order to back-to-back pages of a >manual in pdf. I've tried both exchange and reader. >Is it possible? > Hi, Here is a suggestion, if you are using a typical desktop Laser Printer, don't print back-to-back pages. When you want to back-up your pages as in a manual or a 3-ring binder -- make one copy on Laser and then go to a copy shop (such as Kinkos) and have them make the photocopies of the laser originals (double-sided copies from single sided originals). Yea, you might be costing yourself a bit of money this way -- but you'll be saving your Laser Printer, a more costly investment. Don't do it is what I've told my clients who have asked this same question to me in the past. :/ Now, if you are trying to do this (print even and then odd pages) directly to a RIP or a major workhorse docutech or something -- then I don't know what to tell you, except to ask a more specific question on the list again. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 3:40:43-GMT,2867;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16139 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:40:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA16359; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:39:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:31:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA16003; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:31:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3438681F.1573@angel-net.com> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 23:25:03 -0500 From: "Virgil H. Huston Jr." Organization: Netcastle Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing all even, then all odd pages References: <199710060102.TAA03617@sportsurf.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mark Rauterkus wrote: > > >... I can't figure out how to > >print all even pages (and all odd) in order to back-to-back pages of a > >manual in pdf. I've tried both exchange and reader. > >Is it possible? > > > > Hi, > > Here is a suggestion, if you are using a typical desktop Laser Printer, > don't print back-to-back pages. When you want to back-up your pages as in > a manual or a 3-ring binder -- make one copy on Laser and then go to a > copy shop (such as Kinkos) and have them make the photocopies of the > laser originals (double-sided copies from single sided originals). > > Yea, you might be costing yourself a bit of money this way -- but you'll > be saving your Laser Printer, a more costly investment. > > Don't do it is what I've told my clients who have asked this same > question to me in the past. > This suggestion may be a good one, but I would add a caution. The photocopies must be of the necessary quality, meaning that for customer they must be as close to original as possible. This is critical if graphics are involved, since many graphics lose quality when copied. One alternative is to take your file to a printing company that has duplex printing capability. I don't know much it would cost, but probably wouldn't be too much more than copy fees. Also, this subject has come up on the comp.text.pdf newsgroup and I recall someone mentioning a plug-in that will help with this. Try doing a search on dejanews on this subject. Cheers Virgil H. Huston Jr. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 11:17:36-GMT,2296;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24147 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 05:17:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA22168; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:16:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:08:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA21803; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:07:59 -0500 X-Sender: jreddy@pop.fast.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <01BCCF29.1024FEC0@hd67-141.hil.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:07:42 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Joe Subject: Re: [PDF] batch process tiff to .pdf (mac) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 jonathan, If you want to batch convert tif files using Adobe Photoshop to pdf without having to open them one at a time, all you need is Photoshop version 4.0. Use the Actions palette to record a script of what you want to do, in this case convert tiff's to pdf. Once your script is recorded just play the action back. This will work on one file or a whole folder full of files. Joe >Hi: > >I have a couple of hundred files saved as tiff. Anyone know of a way to >convert them to .pdf files shrt of opening them one by one in photoshop and >printing to .pdf? This on a mac. > >TIA, > >/jonathan > >mailto:jhbauer@akula.com > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 19:46:02-GMT,1764;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18630 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:46:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA30328; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:45:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:38:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA29965; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:38:51 -0500 Message-ID: <34356785.4017@platinum.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 14:45:41 -0700 From: Glenn Organization: PLATINUM technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.text.pdf CC: pdf-l@emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Batch Update of General Info fields Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a requirement to update the title field (in the General Info dialog) in about 200 PDF files and I don't want to do it manually. I want to append text in the field--not replace it. Basically, I need the text to be inserted at the end of the text that is already in the field. I noticed Ambia's Compose has a batch utility but it looks like it just replaces text in the fields. Does anyone know of another solution? Glenn weir@platinum.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 20:04:12-GMT,2188;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19085 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:04:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA30551; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:50:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:44:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA30222; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:44:01 -0500 Message-ID: <34356785.4017@platinum.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 14:45:41 -0700 From: Glenn Organization: PLATINUM technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.text.pdf CC: pdf-l@emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Batch Update of General Info fields Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a requirement to update the title field (in the General Info dialog) in about 200 PDF files and I don't want to do it manually. I want to append text in the field--not replace it. Basically, I need the text to be inserted at the end of the text that is already in the field. I noticed Ambia's Compose has a batch utility but it looks like it just replaces text in the fields. Does anyone know of another solution? Glenn weir@platinum.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 23:52:43-GMT,2514;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24497 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:52:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA02887; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:51:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:43:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02502; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:43:23 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971003234302.003138d4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:43:02 -0700 To: weir@platinum.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch Update of General Info fields Cc: pdf-l@emrg.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Glenn, Someone, within the last month or so, described a plug-in that would extract the Title, etc. fields from a set of PDFs and place the output into an Excel spreadsheet. Merging/appending your new info to the output of that plug-in, and turning the result around into Compose, should do the trick. Sorry, I can't remember exactly where I saw the plug-in. Good luck. Tom At 02:45 PM 10/3/97 -0700, Glenn wrote: > >I have a requirement to update the title field (in the General Info >dialog) in about 200 PDF files and I don't want to do it manually. > >I want to append text in the field--not replace it. Basically, I need >the text to be inserted at the end of the text that is already in the >field. > >I noticed Ambia's Compose has a batch utility but it looks like it just >replaces text in the fields. > >Does anyone know of another solution? > >Glenn >weir@platinum.com >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Oct-1997 23:57:59-GMT,2933;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24593 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:57:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03149; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:57:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:49:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02738; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:49:50 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971003234302.003138d4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:43:02 -0700 Old-To: weir@platinum.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch Update of General Info fields Cc: pdf-l@emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Glenn, Someone, within the last month or so, described a plug-in that would extract the Title, etc. fields from a set of PDFs and place the output into an Excel spreadsheet. Merging/appending your new info to the output of that plug-in, and turning the result around into Compose, should do the trick. Sorry, I can't remember exactly where I saw the plug-in. Good luck. Tom At 02:45 PM 10/3/97 -0700, Glenn wrote: > >I have a requirement to update the title field (in the General Info >dialog) in about 200 PDF files and I don't want to do it manually. > >I want to append text in the field--not replace it. Basically, I need >the text to be inserted at the end of the text that is already in the >field. > >I noticed Ambia's Compose has a batch utility but it looks like it just >replaces text in the fields. > >Does anyone know of another solution? > >Glenn >weir@platinum.com >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 13:35:07-GMT,3440;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26830 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:35:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA24790; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:33:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:25:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA24433; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:25:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Batch Update of General Info fields Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:23:54 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom, I placed that info on the board. If anyone is interested in the excel code that does the ole extraction just email me. Robin -----Original Message----- From: Tom Thiersch [SMTP:thiersch@env-sol.com] Sent: Friday, October 03, 1997 6:43 PM To: millercs@earthlink.net Cc: pdf-l@emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch Update of General Info fields Glenn, Someone, within the last month or so, described a plug-in that would extract the Title, etc. fields from a set of PDFs and place the output into an Excel spreadsheet. Merging/appending your new info to the output of that plug-in, and turning the result around into Compose, should do the trick. Sorry, I can't remember exactly where I saw the plug-in. Good luck. Tom At 02:45 PM 10/3/97 -0700, Glenn wrote: > >I have a requirement to update the title field (in the General Info >dialog) in about 200 PDF files and I don't want to do it manually. > >I want to append text in the field--not replace it. Basically, I need >the text to be inserted at the end of the text that is already in the >field. > >I noticed Ambia's Compose has a batch utility but it looks like it just >replaces text in the fields. > >Does anyone know of another solution? > >Glenn >weir@platinum.com >+---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 13:49:57-GMT,2007;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27174 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:49:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA25294; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:49:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:41:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA24944; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:41:14 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <01BCCF29.1024FEC0@hd67-141.hil.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:43:04 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] batch process tiff to .pdf (mac) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I have a couple of hundred files saved as tiff. Anyone know of a way to >convert them to .pdf files shrt of opening them one by one in photoshop and >printing to .pdf? This on a mac. Photoshop 4.0 has automated Actions which can convert a file from one format to another as a batch process. One Action can be set to an entire directory. Save as PDF format, for example. Or as EPS, which Distiller can then process. As part of the process, you can do other Photoshop filtering as well: resample, etc. An action can also be activated by an AppleScript, should you need this to take place at discrete intervals. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 13:57:16-GMT,2375;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27319 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:57:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA25574; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:56:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:49:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA25291; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:49:01 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710060102.TAA03617@sportsurf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:50:51 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing all even, then all odd pages Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>... I can't figure out how to >>print all even pages (and all odd) in order to back-to-back pages of a >>manual in pdf. I've tried both exchange and reader. >>Is it possible? >> >Here is a suggestion, if you are using a typical desktop Laser Printer, >don't print back-to-back pages. When you want to back-up your pages as in >a manual or a 3-ring binder -- make one copy on Laser and then go to a >copy shop (such as Kinkos) and have them make the photocopies of the >laser originals (double-sided copies from single sided originals). Interesting point. I've also often wondered if running two-sided prints thru a heat-set toner printer might leave a lot of toner glop on the wrong roller of the fuser. I doubt that they were engineered for this; production copying systems might be, on the other hand. Any laser printer engineers out there? Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 18:32:52-GMT,4101;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05622 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:32:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA31608; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:31:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:21:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA31107; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:21:05 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD25A.B485F9E0@max2-hou-117.infohwy.com> From: Ron Culp To: "'pdf questions'" Subject: [PDF] Capture Plugin Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:20:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCD25A.B48F21A0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCD25A.B48F21A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good afternoon all. I am using Capture 2.0 for the big files, but thought for the little = ones (2-25) I would save some money and use the scan and capture plugins = in 3.01. Works fine most of the time. However, every once and a while, 1 = or 2 pages cause a fatal error. The rest of the pages capture fine.=20 I know I could simply rescan the page(s) in Capture, but is there anyway = to use what I have already scanned? In other words, any way to take a = page in a pdf file and save it as a tiff? 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Capture Plugin References: <01BCD25A.B485F9E0@max2-hou-117.infohwy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ron Culp wrote: > I know I could simply rescan the page(s) in Capture, but is there anyway to use what I have already scanned? In other words, any way to take a page in a pdf file and save it as a tiff? Actually, if you haven't downsampled the files, you can take a PDF page and run it through Capture "as is". If your file is downsampled to 150 (or less) dpi, the results will NOT be impressive, however. > Hope this isn't a stupid question, and thanks in advance for the help. It's not, and you're welcome. -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 21:03:49-GMT,2048;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09656 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:03:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA02276; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:02:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:54:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01853; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:54:13 -0500 From: cooperk.oimc@gao.gov Date: Mon, 06 Oct 97 16:49:14 EST Message-Id: <9709068761.AA876182011@mailgateway.gao.gov> To: PDF@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Capture Filenames Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Someone gave me some TIF images with some weird names. I need to know what can I do to list the filenames. I know they need the TIF extension. Up to the first 5 characters need to be consistent so Capture will compile the files into one file. The next set of characters are for the numeric listing which will tell the program which file is page 1, page 2, etc. How can these filenames, for two consecutive pages of a document, be able to work together in Capture to make one PDF file: 14986609.TIF 1498660A.TIF The situation: the first 6 characters go along with the name of the actual document (149866), but this document has 178 pages, which is why someone used numbers and letters to identify page position instead of allowing for 3 numeric spaces. If there is another way this can be done other than what I have said above, please share what you know. Thank you. Kenny Cooper------------ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 16:11:17-GMT,2383;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01403 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:11:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA28213; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:09:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:53:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27713; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:53:06 -0500 Message-ID: <34390958.21CC@document-solutions.com> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 08:52:56 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] batch process tiff to .pdf (mac) References: <01BCCF29.1024FEC0@hd67-141.hil.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Johnathan: Gary Cosimini wrote: > > >I have a couple of hundred files saved as tiff. Anyone know of a way to > >convert them to .pdf files shrt of opening them one by one in photoshop and > >printing to .pdf? This on a mac. > > Photoshop 4.0 has automated Actions which can convert a file from one > format to another as a batch process. One Action can be set to an entire > directory. Save as PDF format, for example. Or as EPS, which Distiller can > then process. As part of the process, you can do other Photoshop filtering > as well: resample, etc. To clarify..... converting a TIFF to a PDF in Photoshop involves no OCR, hence, you get a "dumb" PDF/Image Only...... Is this what you want? If not, go the Capture route. -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 16:24:31-GMT,3533;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01911 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:24:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA28917; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:23:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:11:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28308; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:11:42 -0500 Message-ID: <34390F57.464E@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 11:18:32 -0500 From: À{0 Organization: ttp://www.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] batch process tiff to .pdf (mac) References: <3.0.1.32.19971004030405.006d2368@singnet.com.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 John Lui wrote: > > At 10:48 AM 10/5/97 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Jonathan Bauer wrote: > > > >> I have a couple of hundred files saved as tiff. Anyone know of a way to > >> convert them to .pdf files shrt of opening them one by one in photoshop and > >> printing to .pdf? This on a mac. > >> > >> TIA, > > > >Yes. Buy a Wintel machine and a copy of Acrobat Capture 2.0. There is > >(I believe) a Capture plug-in for the Mac, available with Acrobat 3.0, > >but if you need more than a few pages converted, it's not the way to go. > > > >-- > > > >regards, > > > >Duff Johnson > > > > Or, check out Applescript (currently not available on the Wintel platform > ;) ). I have a script with allows artists at the newspaper I work for to > batch save Illustrator 6 files as PDF. Because no Adobe product, including > Photoshop, natively supports Applescripting (shame on Adobe), I use a third > party app called PreFab Player which simulates menu pulldowns and button > clicks. It's a slick product which supports if-then statements. Check out > Player at: > > <> > > They give lots of examples on how to script Photoshop, Illustrator etc. > You may also wish to look at Freehand 7, which supports scripting > natively. Macromedia's product should batch convert your tiffs quite > easily, so long as you install the free PDF plugin. > Applescript also lets you to batch rename your new PDF files and > automatically move them to a designated folder. You can also set up a watch > folder which converts anything placed in it, or make it batch process at 2 > am on a networked Mac when all Wintel users - and their hardware - are > asleep. > > John Lui Seong Onn > Singapore Press Holdings > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I have used Debabelizer for this task quite successfully. David L. Ogle +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 16:25:53-GMT,3607;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01939 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:25:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA28964; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:24:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:13:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28403; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:13:15 -0500 Message-ID: <34390FB5.CF0@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 11:20:07 -0500 From: À{0 Organization: ttp://www.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] batch process tiff to .pdf (mac) References: <3.0.1.32.19971004030405.006d2368@singnet.com.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 John Lui wrote: > > At 10:48 AM 10/5/97 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Jonathan Bauer wrote: > > > >> I have a couple of hundred files saved as tiff. Anyone know of a way to > >> convert them to .pdf files shrt of opening them one by one in photoshop and > >> printing to .pdf? This on a mac. > >> > >> TIA, > > > >Yes. Buy a Wintel machine and a copy of Acrobat Capture 2.0. There is > >(I believe) a Capture plug-in for the Mac, available with Acrobat 3.0, > >but if you need more than a few pages converted, it's not the way to go. > > > >-- > > > >regards, > > > >Duff Johnson > > > > Or, check out Applescript (currently not available on the Wintel platform > ;) ). I have a script with allows artists at the newspaper I work for to > batch save Illustrator 6 files as PDF. Because no Adobe product, including > Photoshop, natively supports Applescripting (shame on Adobe), I use a third > party app called PreFab Player which simulates menu pulldowns and button > clicks. It's a slick product which supports if-then statements. Check out > Player at: > > <> > > They give lots of examples on how to script Photoshop, Illustrator etc. > You may also wish to look at Freehand 7, which supports scripting > natively. Macromedia's product should batch convert your tiffs quite > easily, so long as you install the free PDF plugin. > Applescript also lets you to batch rename your new PDF files and > automatically move them to a designated folder. You can also set up a watch > folder which converts anything placed in it, or make it batch process at 2 > am on a networked Mac when all Wintel users - and their hardware - are > asleep. > > John Lui Seong Onn > Singapore Press Holdings > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ My reply about using Debabelizer should have mentioned that you use it to convert to postscript, which can then be distilled. Sorry David L. Ogle +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Oct-1997 12:55:54-GMT,2570;000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.3]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25704; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:50:42 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA01135; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:50:41 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:50:41 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, tex-fonts@math.utah.edu Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Outline and bitmap fonts compared Message-ID: >From time to time on the PDF and tex-fonts lists, the question of display quality of fonts has come up, often with regard to the display of documents typeset by TeX. I have responded privately, and on the lists, to these questions when I had the time to do so. Over the last few days, I've put together a Web page that discusses the issues, and illustrates the problem with sample pages set with outline fonts, and with bitmap fonts. The problem lies primarily with Adobe Acrobat Reader, acroread, since other freely available software clearly demonstrates that bitmap fonts can be displayed satisfactorily. PERHAPS ENOUGH VOLUME OF COMPLAINTS TO ADOBE SYSTEMS WILL SURFACE THAT THEY WILL FINALLY FIX ACROBAT READER! Although TeX documents are often the origin of bitmap fonts, other document formatting systems also use them. For historical reasons documented in the Web page, Adobe has a responsibility to do better. Please visit http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/fonts/outline-vs-bitmap-fonts.html Comments are welcome, but please keep them off the lists unless they really are intended to be read by more than the author of that page. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Oct-1997 13:04:33-GMT,3219;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26088 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:04:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA23775; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:03:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:55:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23365; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:55:28 -0500 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:50:41 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, tex-fonts@math.utah.edu Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: [PDF] Outline and bitmap fonts compared Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >From time to time on the PDF and tex-fonts lists, the question of display quality of fonts has come up, often with regard to the display of documents typeset by TeX. I have responded privately, and on the lists, to these questions when I had the time to do so. Over the last few days, I've put together a Web page that discusses the issues, and illustrates the problem with sample pages set with outline fonts, and with bitmap fonts. The problem lies primarily with Adobe Acrobat Reader, acroread, since other freely available software clearly demonstrates that bitmap fonts can be displayed satisfactorily. PERHAPS ENOUGH VOLUME OF COMPLAINTS TO ADOBE SYSTEMS WILL SURFACE THAT THEY WILL FINALLY FIX ACROBAT READER! Although TeX documents are often the origin of bitmap fonts, other document formatting systems also use them. For historical reasons documented in the Web page, Adobe has a responsibility to do better. Please visit http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/fonts/outline-vs-bitmap-fonts.html Comments are welcome, but please keep them off the lists unless they really are intended to be read by more than the author of that page. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 14:11:01-GMT,1969;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01028 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:11:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA17535; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:09:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:00:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17123; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:00:31 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:01:00 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Greg Patt Subject: [PDF] Odd/even from Mac programs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Someone wanted to print all the odd pages on their laser printer and then turn it over and print all the evens. There is a printing utility/extension called "Print Chef" that does just that along with a gazillion other features. Check it out at http://www.mindgate.com for $45. Demo on their home page available October 20th! __________________________________________________________________________ Greg Patt Graphics Manager Publishing Services Cortez III Service Corporation NASA Lewis Research Center MS 60-1 216/433-5804 Greg's Science Facts: I'm not sure how clouds are formed, but clouds know how to do it and that's the important thing! ______________________________________________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 18:44:40-GMT,1870;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09806 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:44:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA23206; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:41:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:27:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22537; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:27:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 97 14:24:59 EST From: "Robert J. Wolfe" Message-Id: <9709078762.AA876259676@smtpgate.bna.com> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Relative Links and PDF Filenames Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm creating a system of PDF help files which uses relative paths for each inter-document link. I created the postscript documents in FrameMaker 5 (Unix) and used Distiller to create the PDFs. When I use this system in Reader 3.0, all the links work properly. However, after I follow twenty-or-so links I eventually get an error and am unable to open any more links. (The error message: "There was an error opening this document. File name too long.") When I check "Document Info" for any document, I notice that the filename includes the entire path I've traversed before opening the current file. What can I do to prevent or resolve this? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 18:45:02-GMT,2023;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09821 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:45:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA23207; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:41:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:26:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22480; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:26:52 -0500 Date: 07 Oct 97 12:33:04 -0600 From: Dennis Walker Subject: [PDF] Internet PDF Distribution To: PDF Mail List X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1335894992-51704026@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are beginning to distribute pdf files to clients via the Internet. I'm wondering if pdf files are Internet safe without encoding? Does the requirement for encoding differ for an email attachment verses downloading from a web page? The pdf files are created on a Mac and typically sent to PC users. If encoding is required, should I just use Zip format? Do most PC email clients/browsers automatically unzip files? Is ZipIt the best choice for zipping on a Mac? OR Has Stuffit & Expander made it's way to PC users yet? Thanks in advance for any help with these questions. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 19:55:20-GMT,1756;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11811 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:55:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA32678; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:45:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:36:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA32173; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:36:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199710071936.PAA04233@rasputin.inc.> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:36:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Parker Subject: [PDF] Invisible link boxes To: pdf@lists.emrg.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: gjJmtCulY9cpJVtp48YIdA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello- Does anyone know the true Postscript code used by PDF files to make a link box invisible. The following currently draws a "visible" box around the linking text. [ /Action /GoTo /Rect [4224 -88233 26763 -84713] /Dest /news_start_02_eiplr_20 /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark Thanks, ===== Scott Parker Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. 1231 25th Street, NW Washington, DC 20037 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 19:58:38-GMT,2285;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11902 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:58:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00494; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:55:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:47:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA32766; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:47:15 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971007195131.006a35b8@dg85.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@dg85.fourgen.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 12:51:31 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Invisible link boxes Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >From the pdfmark Reference Manaual page 10, set the border to [0 0 0] (white) Example: [ /Rect [0 0 100 100] /Border [0 0 0] /Dest /mydest /ANN pdfmark At 03:36 PM 10/7/97 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello- > >Does anyone know the true Postscript code used by PDF files to make a link box >invisible. The following currently draws a "visible" box around the linking >text. > > > [ /Action /GoTo /Rect [4224 -88233 26763 -84713] /Dest > /news_start_02_eiplr_20 /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark > >Thanks, > >===== >Scott Parker >Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. >1231 25th Street, NW >Washington, DC 20037 > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 20:30:01-GMT,2621;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13845 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:30:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA01681; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:27:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:17:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01216; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:17:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Cc: "'sparker@bna.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Invisible link boxes Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:18:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You may want to consider Alliant Techsystems' LinkManager Adobe Exchange plug-in. It automatically will change all your links of a certain color to another color, including invisible. Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems Voice: (813)572-2491 Fax: (813)572-2169 E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com WWW: http://ais.atk.com >---------- >From: Scott Parker[SMTP:sparker@bna.com] >Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 1997 3:36 PM >To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >Subject: [PDF] Invisible link boxes > > >Hello- > >Does anyone know the true Postscript code used by PDF files to make a link >box >invisible. The following currently draws a "visible" box around the linking >text. > > > [ /Action /GoTo /Rect [4224 -88233 26763 -84713] /Dest > /news_start_02_eiplr_20 /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark > >Thanks, > >===== >Scott Parker >Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. >1231 25th Street, NW >Washington, DC 20037 > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 20:49:57-GMT,3630;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14355 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:49:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02374; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:46:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:39:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01959; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:39:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199710072040.QAA04282@rasputin.inc.> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:40:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Parker Subject: RE: [PDF] Invisible link boxes To: pdf@lists.emrg.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 9I+Pco8e4XsI0yBsay4+pg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thank you, that sounds like a commercial. In this case we only want to change certain links, but we will keep you in mind. > From: "Mera, Jose" > Old-To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" > Cc: "'sparker@bna.com'" > Subject: RE: [PDF] Invisible link boxes > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:18:30 -0500 > X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com > To: millercs@earthlink.net > > > You may want to consider Alliant Techsystems' LinkManager Adobe Exchange > plug-in. It automatically will change all your links of a certain color > to another color, including invisible. > > Jose Mera > Business Area Manager > Alliant Techsystems > Voice: (813)572-2491 > Fax: (813)572-2169 > E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com > WWW: http://ais.atk.com > > >---------- > >From: Scott Parker[SMTP:sparker@bna.com] > >Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 1997 3:36 PM > >To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > >Subject: [PDF] Invisible link boxes > > > > > >Hello- > > > >Does anyone know the true Postscript code used by PDF files to make a link > >box > >invisible. The following currently draws a "visible" box around the linking > >text. > > > > > > [ /Action /GoTo /Rect [4224 -88233 26763 -84713] /Dest > > /news_start_02_eiplr_20 /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark > > > >Thanks, > > > >===== > >Scott Parker > >Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. > >1231 25th Street, NW > >Washington, DC 20037 > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ===== Scott Parker Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. 1231 25th Street, NW Washington, DC 20037 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 20:52:50-GMT,3098;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14415 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02539; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:51:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:44:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02215; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:44:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:45:13 GMT X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1335894992-51704026@mail.inpractice.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Internet PDF Distribution Cc: Dennis Walker Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dennis, it has been around that some mail forwarding software does mess up ASCII files, affecting PDF files. This is the main reason why it is suggested to compress PDF files, of course besides the smaller file. ZipIt is a pretty good choice for the Mac, as you can set it to change filenames to DOS specification. I am using it for sending files to PC users. On the other hand, I have no experiences with StuffIt Expander for Windows, but it does exist. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com _____________ >We are beginning to distribute pdf files to clients via the Internet. >I'm wondering if pdf files are Internet safe without encoding? >Does the requirement for encoding differ for an email attachment verses >downloading from a web page? >The pdf files are created on a Mac and typically sent to PC users. >If encoding is required, should I just use Zip format? >Do most PC email clients/browsers automatically unzip files? >Is ZipIt the best choice for zipping on a Mac? OR Has Stuffit & Expander >made it's way to PC users yet? > >Thanks in advance for any help with these questions. > >Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net >EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice >InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 21:14:59-GMT,2850;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15014 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:14:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA03353; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:12:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:05:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA02883; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:05:48 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD36D.365D2020.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Internet PDF Distribution Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:06:04 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, October 07, 1997 19:33, Dennis Walker [SMTP:dennisw@inpractice.net] wrote: > > We are beginning to distribute pdf files to clients via the Internet. > I'm wondering if pdf files are Internet safe without encoding? If you select ASCII format in creating a file you can in theory try to send it without encoding. In practice, I wouldn't do so. You can run into many problems where lines are split up, and line ending change between platforms. I'd advise always encoding PDF files. Or better still, put them on the Web. E-mailing any sort of attachment to a diverse audience is a risky business since there is not 100% compatability between mailers even at the most basic level of simple attachments. > Does the requirement for encoding differ for an email attachment verses > downloading from a web page? Web downloads are always binary - no encoding requirements. Zipping files on the web will just annoy. > The pdf files are created on a Mac and typically sent to PC users. > If encoding is required, should I just use Zip format? Zip does NOT encode into ASCII. It makes files smaller but they are still binary and guaranteed to be damaged in transit. It isn't usually worth the effort for PDF files, which are heavily compressed anyway. > Do most PC email clients/browsers automatically unzip files? Some do. Don't count on it. > Is ZipIt the best choice for zipping on a Mac? OR Has Stuffit & Expander > made it's way to PC users yet? If you must compress, PKZIP is the only really common standard. Aandi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 21:50:19-GMT,2829;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15872 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:50:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA03949; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:35:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:29:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03747; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:29:06 -0500 Message-ID: <343AA986.259B@document-solutions.com> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 14:28:38 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Invisible link boxes References: <199710072040.QAA04282@rasputin.inc.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Scott Parker wrote: > > Thank you, that sounds like a commercial. In this case we only > want to change certain links, but we will keep you in mind. It WAS a commercial, Scott, and they are getting to be VERY boring! Could folks PLEASE not use this list for such blatant commercialism. I quote from the recently-posted "List Info", by EMERGE: >2. Do NOT post blatantly commercial messages to this list. If someone >poses a query for which you believe you can offer ("sell") a product or >service, please send your detailed reply privately to the original >sender, NOT to the entire subscriber list. A brief mention of a product >or service that is a direct response to a legitimate request from >another subscriber are acceptable, but it should refer the person to >the source for more information. No pricing information should be >posted to the list. Overly frequent "product reminders" from the same >person or company will be treated as an abuse of this policy, as will >suspected pre-arranged question and reply postings. If you want to post >a message about a new product or service, please subscribe to and send >your message to the PDF-Announce list (pdf-announce@lists.emrg.com), >which was created for this purpose. Geddit! -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 22:04:00-GMT,1661;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16173 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:03:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA04942; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:02:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:55:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA04558; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:55:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199710072226.RAA05091@or1.onrampinc.net> Subject: [PDF] Tiff IT? What the heck is this? Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 17:01:06 -0500 x-sender: remo@mail.onrampinc.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: remo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Someone told me that Tiff IT (tiff.it, tiffIT, or however it is spelled) is suppose to be a GREAT standard for text and graphics for printing. I understand it is almost a multi-platform, multi-OS file format. Anyone have any idea where I can learn more about this? Has anyone on this list messed around with this file format? Thanks for your help in advance!! Remo... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 23:03:14-GMT,2379;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17501 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:03:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA06219; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:01:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:52:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA05869; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:52:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:52:41 GMT X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710071936.PAA04233@rasputin.inc.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Invisible link boxes Cc: Scott Parker Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Scott, you'd have to add a /Border statement. The correct syntax can be found in the PDFMARK Reference Manual. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com ____________ >Hello- > >Does anyone know the true Postscript code used by PDF files to make a link >box >invisible. The following currently draws a "visible" box around the linking >text. > > > [ /Action /GoTo /Rect [4224 -88233 26763 -84713] /Dest > /news_start_02_eiplr_20 /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark > >Thanks, > >===== >Scott Parker >Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. >1231 25th Street, NW >Washington, DC 20037 > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Oct-1997 23:33:27-GMT,2039;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18268 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:33:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07005; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:26:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:19:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA06650; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:19:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3424326C.7B8A755B@lucent.com> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 16:30:36 -0400 From: Matt Jorgenson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.emrg.com" Subject: [PDF] Cross Document Links X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, We do a number of multi-volume document sets for which we need to link across documents. Our source documents are in FrameMaker. If we print out our book files to individual PDF chapter files, cross-document links work correctly. However, when we print out an entire book to a single PDF document, the cross-document links are looking for a chapter filename which doesn't exist. Has anyone discovered a convenient way to maintain functional cross-document links when creating single PDF files from the FrameMaker book level? Thanks, Matt -- Matt Jorgenson email: mattj@lucent.com phone: (614) 860-5693 fax: (614) 868-4356 room: 3R-135 address:Lucent Technologies 6200 E Broad St., 3R-135 Columbus, OH 43213-1569 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 8:18:11-GMT,2123;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA28371 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:18:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA15089; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 03:16:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 03:09:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA14742; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 03:09:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:09:39 GMT X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: PDF List Posting , Acrobat list posting From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDF] Reader 3.0.1 crashes on Windows 3.1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have one installation where we still use Windows 3.1. However, Windows 95 is also available on this machine, and the choice is made at startup. When we installed Acrobat Reader 3.01, German 16-bit version, we started to get very serious problems with certain files. It crashed with the error message Error in Module ACROGRAF.DLL/0001:0E40 We de-installed and re-installed Reader, for both, Windows 3.1 and Windows 95. Under Windows 95, everything runs OK; under Windows 3.1, no chance. We are running out of ideas what could cause the problem. Any ideas? Thanks a lot in advance. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 8:37:35-GMT,1583;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA28874 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:37:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA15662; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 03:36:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 03:30:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA15351; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 03:30:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Craig Longhurst To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: invisible link border Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:53:32 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Just add the /Border key. /Border allows you to specify the X,Y corner radius and the border width (default is 1) specify /Border [0 0 0] to get an invisible border: [ /Action /GoTo /Rect [4224 -88233 26763 -84713] /Border [0 0 0 ] /Dest /news_start_02_eiplr_20 /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 8:47:46-GMT,2991;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA29043 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:47:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA16053; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 03:46:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 03:40:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA15779; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 03:40:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:37:31 +0100 (BST) From: David Brailsford X-Sender: dfb@quiver To: PDF Mail List Subject: Re: [PDF] Internet PDF Distribution In-Reply-To: <1335894992-51704026@mail.inpractice.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 7 Oct 1997, Dennis Walker wrote: > > We are beginning to distribute pdf files to clients via the Internet. > I'm wondering if pdf files are Internet safe without encoding? > Does the requirement for encoding differ for an email attachment verses > downloading from a web page? > The pdf files are created on a Mac and typically sent to PC users. > If encoding is required, should I just use Zip format? > Do most PC email clients/browsers automatically unzip files? > Is ZipIt the best choice for zipping on a Mac? OR Has Stuffit & Expander > made it's way to PC users yet? > > Thanks in advance for any help with these questions. > > Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net > EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice > InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > The WWW uses Mime Base64 encoding for transmission of material between sites. This guarantees that even "binary" material such as PDF gets transmitted without damage. Your bigger problem is with e-mail where, again, you should use Mime Base64 for total safety and cross-platform compatibility. I'll send you, separately, a posting I made to this list in Jan 1997 with a small Mime Base64 PDF as an attachment so you can see how you get along. David B. --------------------------------------------------------------------- David F. Brailsford Dunford Professor of Computer Science e-mail: dfb@cs.nott.ac.uk Dept. of Computer Science http://www.ep.cs.nott.ac.uk/~dfb University of Nottingham Tel: +44 (0)115 951 4251 NOTTINGHAM NG7 2RD, Fax: +44 (0)115 951 4254 UK. --------------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 10:13:18-GMT,1828;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA00498 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 04:13:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA17565; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:12:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:05:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA17238; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:05:42 -0500 X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: tm@muc.de (Thomas Merz) Subject: [PDF] Re: Invisible link boxes Message-Id: <97Oct8.120559met_dst.86050-1@colin.muc.de> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:05:55 +0200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >From: Scott Parker >Does anyone know the true Postscript code used by PDF files to make a link box >invisible. The following currently draws a "visible" box around the linking >text. > > > [ /Action /GoTo /Rect [4224 -88233 26763 -84713] /Dest > /news_start_02_eiplr_20 /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark Add /Border [0 0 0] to your pdfmark code. Thomas Merz {(pstack exec quit) = flush }| Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de pstack exec quit | Check out the free Ghostscript manual at -----------------------------+ http://www.muc.de/~tm/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 10:22:11-GMT,1723;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA00645 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 04:22:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA17782; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:21:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:14:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA17600; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:14:46 -0500 Message-ID: <343B48C5.6889A3E5@nplum.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 09:48:06 +0100 From: Nic Plum Organization: Imagination Unlimited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sparker@bna.com, pdf@emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Invisible link boxes X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I think that you need to make the border width zero so that irrespective of the border default colour it can't be seen. For this you need to add: /Border [0 0 0] On my links I add this after the [ /Rect [ .....] but before any SrcPg or destination. I hope this provides at least the beginnings of a working solution! -- Nic Plum nic@nplum.demon.co.uk Buckden, Huntingdon, Cambs. UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 10:41:36-GMT,1357;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA00948 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 04:41:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA18375; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:40:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:33:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA18073; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:33:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199710081031.LAA20067@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] Invisible link boxes Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 12:34:22 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >For this you need to add: > >/Border [0 0 0] Ok, right answer! Please, follow threads before answering... Andrea +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 10:57:05-GMT,2260;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA01196 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 04:57:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA18850; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:55:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:49:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA18512; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:49:23 -0500 Message-ID: <343B46F8.CAE41C31@nplum.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 09:40:26 +0100 From: Nic Plum Organization: Imagination Unlimited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dennisw@inpractice.net, pdf@emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Internet PDF Distribution X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm not sure about encoding. Zipping a PDF won't achieve much - the PDF file (assuming that it is version 3) is already compressed. Zipit does produce zip files which can be unzipped using Winzip/pkunzip. The only problem occurs when the zip file is big and has to be segmented ("spanning"). Stuffit Expander for Windows is available as a free download on the Aladdin Systems site and is as easy and transparent to use as the Mac version. It is also a lot better than Winzip where multiple encoding is used e.g. a binhex file which is stuffed etc... You can always provide a link to the Windows expander for those who haven't got it. At least a stuffed version can then be expanded and work on both platforms. If you only zip a file (without binhexing it to preserve the mac resource fork) your Mac users are going to have problems. -- Nic Plum nic@nplum.demon.co.uk Buckden, Huntingdon, Cambs. UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 12:29:10-GMT,2709;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02787 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:29:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA20493; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:28:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:19:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA20135; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:19:41 -0500 From: llerasj.atc@gao.gov Date: Wed, 08 Oct 97 08:19:33 EST Message-Id: <9709088763.AA876323970@mailgateway.gao.gov> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Cc: cottera.atc@gao.gov Subject: [PDF] DISTILLER PROBLEMS Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Anyone-- If there's anyone out there that has experienced any of these problems and can provide me with some help, I would appreciate it. BTW--we are running on a Windows 3.11, PC network environment. MY DISTILLER PROBLEMS ARE: 1. Currently, when we leave Distiller running unattended for several days, we get a dialog box which provides us with the choice of changing the format to 3.0. We must answer YES or NO by selecting the appropriate button. When this message is not answered, it hangs up the automated/seamless process. We want to know if there a way to disable this request so the batch processing can continue without interruptions. 2. We get a "sharing violation" error when we send files to the directory, which is setup as a watching directory if the distiller is active and actually watching that directory. How can we eliminate this error? 3. Acrobat 3x files are incompatible with 2x files. Even though 3x files are smaller in size, we want to continue to send out 2x files without having the Distiller switching them to 3x or constantly offering to switch to 3.x or even doing so when we aren't fully alert. Unfortunately for us, Distiller is more aggressive about trying to upgrade us to version 3.x compatibility than we would like. This there a way to by-pass this function of Distiller? llerasj.atc@gao.gov Jaime A. Lleras, US GAO, Washington DC +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 12:39:46-GMT,4669;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02961 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:39:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA20993; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:38:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:30:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA20603; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:30:54 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD3EE.67E884A0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Internet PDF Distribution Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:45:56 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, October 08, 1997 09:38, David Brailsford [SMTP:dfb@Cs.Nott.AC.UK] wrote: > > The WWW uses Mime Base64 encoding for transmission of material between > sites. This guarantees that even "binary" material such as PDF gets > transmitted without damage. Your bigger problem is with e-mail where, > again, you should use Mime Base64 for total safety and cross-platform > compatibility. Probably getting off track here, but I'm pretty sure this statement is (partially) wrong. WWW protocols simply send binary files, and they get through because nothing interferes with them. Using Base64 would increase the file size by 10-20% (can't remember the right value) for no gain. Here's some background. The response to a web request will identify the type of file and other stuff, then have a blank line. The very next character will be the start of the binary data, which continues to the end of transmission. Content-type: application/pdf Content-length: 12354 Mail, on the other hand is based on ASCII transmissions and part of the communication looks like this: DATA . This . is very important. Since a '.' cannot appear on a line by itself, it means that you cannot send arbitrary binary data either (try sending a mail message with . by itself and see what happens). That's just part of it. Mailers going to systems with different character sets (like EBCDIC instead of ASCII) will translate all of the text into that new character set, breaking the message up. Those are the main hazards in transmission. Mailer programs make matters worse because they assume the files are text and that liberties can be taken with them e.g. splitting long lines. The conventions used to represent binary files as attachments (MIME, Base64, UUENCODE) all work by turning the binary into ASCII text. They are also designed to be resistant to the things which commonly happen to mail in transit. Most modern mailers will automatically manage attachments, and manual encoding is a waste of time. So far as I can work out MIME usually HAS TO BE done by the mailer. You can't create a mail message in MIME format without co-operation, unless your mailer lets you edit all of the header fields before sending. Unfortunately, although MIME is a good standard, there are differences in implementation. I have received messages where I couldn't extract the attachment because the sender hadn't named the attachment and my mailer wouldn't save with a default name. This is probably a bug in something, but few people will change their mailer to suit you. In my view, attachments are a good way of (a) sending within a workgroup where the mail agents are all the same or controlled (b) sending data to a single individual, where you have the time to try again with different systems if necessary. As a way of automatically sending data to a bunch of people with different mailers, attachments are a bit of a disaster, though many people find it superficially attractive after success with (a) or (b) above. That's probably enough for this thread in the context of PDF-L, unless there are factual errors above. If correcting errors, please don't post the whole of this message again, just the bits that are wrong. Thanks. Aandi Inston (We'll be back after these messages...) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 14:15:11-GMT,1497;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04902 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:15:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22762; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:12:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:04:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22313; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:04:29 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971008090541.0069c018@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 09:05:43 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] SUPERCROP API Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There was a API for Exchange 2.1, is there such a plug in for version 3.0? If so, how obtainable is it? Thanks, Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 14:19:00-GMT,1782;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04978 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:19:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22939; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:17:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:09:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22591; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:09:41 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971008091052.006882fc@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 09:10:54 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] Cropping Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Wish list item, this kind of goes along with printing all evens/odds... A lot of documents laid out in Quark/pageMaker are setup as facing pages, meaning when they are converted to PDF, one cannot batch crop the entire document because the the odd pages and even pages are offset to accomodate the "gutter." Having the ability to crop just the odds or just he evens would be a nice feature. Thanks, Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 15:05:29-GMT,1701;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06135 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:05:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24416; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:02:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:56:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23842; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:56:00 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD402.B7C69840.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] supercrop API Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:45:33 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It should be on the CDROM. At least, it is on the US version of the Acrobat 3.01 CDROM. I have heard it isn't on the European one, which sounds a bit ludicrous. Look in the GOODIES folder. On Wednesday, October 08, 1997 15:04, Christopher Uschan [SMTP:uschan@omnipress.com] wrote: > > There was a API for Exchange 2.1, is there such a plug in for version 3.0? > If so, how obtainable is it? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 15:05:48-GMT,2149;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06155 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24424; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:02:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:56:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23875; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:56:10 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD402.BC5BFEE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Cropping Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:49:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, October 08, 1997 15:11, Christopher Uschan [SMTP:uschan@omnipress.com] wrote: > > A lot of documents laid out in Quark/pageMaker are setup as facing pages, > meaning when they are converted to PDF, one cannot batch crop the entire > document because the the odd pages and even pages are offset to accomodate > the "gutter." Having the ability to crop just the odds or just he evens > would be a nice feature. I hope this isn't too much of an advert, but when we've finished Quite Imposing it will give the ability to do different things to even/odd pages. It can split into odd/even documents then join again, or crop space off even/odd selectively. None of these things are very hard, and it's surprising that nobody else seems to have included them in some existing plug-in. Or perhaps they have...? Aandi Inston Quite Software +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 15:05:48-GMT,2541;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06154 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24425; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:02:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:55:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23821; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:55:58 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD402.B551EEC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] DISTILLER PROBLEMS Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:43:57 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, October 08, 1997 14:20, llerasj.atc@gao.gov [SMTP:llerasj.atc@gao.gov] wrote: > If there's anyone out there that has experienced any of these problems > and can provide me with some help, I would appreciate it. > BTW--we are running on a Windows 3.11, PC network environment. > > 1. Currently, when we leave Distiller running unattended for several > days, we get a dialog box which provides us with the choice of > changing the format to 3.0. We must answer YES or NO by selecting the > appropriate button. When this message is not answered, it hangs up > the automated/seamless process. We want to know if there a way to > disable this request so the batch processing can continue without > interruptions. I've never heard of this question being asked again except when the Windows registry is being damaged. Look for a program doing damage to the registry (REG.DAT). > 2. We get a "sharing violation" error when we send files to the > directory, which is setup as a watching directory if the distiller is > active and actually watching that directory. How can we eliminate > this error? Fixed in 3.01, I think. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 15:22:30-GMT,2203;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06577 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:22:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25007; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:18:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:11:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24594; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:11:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199710081512.JAA20645@sportsurf.net> X-Authentication-Warning: sportsurf.net: Host sss.pittsburgh.net [192.204.56.156] claimed to be [192.204.56.156] Subject: RE: [PDF] Internet PDF Distribution Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 11:21:29 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, To take this to another level...... Looking for auto-reply ATTACHMENTS (the PDF) from Unix Virtual Server. Background: I've got a Unix Internet Server -- and I'd like to set up an autoresponder/auto-reply mailbox that sends out an attachment (the PDF file) along with an outgoing email. The process gets started with an incoming email of course. I can do regular autoreply on my server no problem -- but can't get the attachments. Anyone have any pointers - tips - soutions to share with this? Thanks. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 15:25:30-GMT,2183;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06680 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25256; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:23:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:17:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24902; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:17:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199710081518.JAA21975@sportsurf.net> X-Authentication-Warning: sportsurf.net: Host sss.pittsburgh.net [192.204.56.156] claimed to be [192.204.56.156] Subject: Re: [PDF] SUPERCROP API Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 11:27:36 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >There was a API for Exchange 2.1, is there such a plug in for version 3.0? >If so, how obtainable is it? Hi, SuperCrop Plug In that was released at version 2.1 still works with version 3.0. I noticed that this wasn't part of the mix of plug-ins way back at beta time and alerted adobe folks and even this list at release time that the SuperCrop Plug-In -- one of my favorites -- should be grabbed from the old edition and kept alive with 3.0. Adobe should fix this -- and they did catch a few others. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 15:32:02-GMT,1965;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06813 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:32:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25489; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:29:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:23:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25196; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:23:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199710081523.JAA23256@sportsurf.net> X-Authentication-Warning: sportsurf.net: Host sss.pittsburgh.net [192.204.56.156] claimed to be [192.204.56.156] Subject: [PDF] Did you see Quark is going to handle PDFs? Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 11:33:23 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I read in one of the trade rags that Quark's popular DTP program is going to be able to place PDF files within its documents. Sounds like welcome news to me. Anyone else know anything else. I think the news hit at the Seybold event. Reactions welcomed too. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 15:39:10-GMT,1542;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07042 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:39:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25793; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:37:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:30:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25540; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:30:47 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971008103159.00690c38@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 10:32:01 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] supercrop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 my bad on this one. Supercrop is located on Adobe's website: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/acewin.htm End of this discussion Thanks Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 14:15:55-GMT,1495;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04924 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:15:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22707; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:11:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:02:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22267; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:02:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971008090346.0069c78c@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 09:03:48 -0500 To: pdf-l@emrg.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] supercrop API Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There was a API for Exchange 2.1, is there such a plug in for version 3.0? If so, how obtainable is it? Thanks, Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 16:07:54-GMT,3124;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07839 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:07:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26497; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:00:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:53:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26214; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:53:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:54:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick West To: PDF List Posting cc: Acrobat list posting Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 3.0.1 crashes on Windows 3.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Make sure the last time you reinstalled it was for Windows 3.1 I have 3.01 running fine inside Win-OS/2 the Windows 3.1 subsystem for OS/2. I have heard that there are a few items optimized for Win95 by having several different dlls for Win 95 systems. If this is True, and I don't know that it is, then installing under win95 last would have these dlls in place. On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Max Wyss wrote: > > We have one installation where we still use Windows 3.1. However, Windows > 95 is also available on this machine, and the choice is made at startup. > > When we installed Acrobat Reader 3.01, German 16-bit version, we started to > get very serious problems with certain files. It crashed with the error > message > > Error in Module ACROGRAF.DLL/0001:0E40 > > We de-installed and re-installed Reader, for both, Windows 3.1 and Windows > 95. Under Windows 95, everything runs OK; under Windows 3.1, no chance. > > We are running out of ideas what could cause the problem. > > Any ideas? Thanks a lot in advance. > > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering AG > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Patrick West ,using Pine 3.96 PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 16:21:32-GMT,3446;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08303 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:21:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26755; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:08:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:01:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA26524; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:01:38 -0500 Message-ID: <343BAF0B.542E0F0B@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 12:04:28 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Internet PDF Distribution References: <1335894992-51704026@mail.inpractice.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6CF4FBF852BECF50D7E89B7E" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6CF4FBF852BECF50D7E89B7E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just send the PDF's. No zipping required. HTH Bob Moran Dennis Walker wrote: > We are beginning to distribute pdf files to clients via the Internet. > I'm wondering if pdf files are Internet safe without encoding? > Does the requirement for encoding differ for an email attachment verses > downloading from a web page? > The pdf files are created on a Mac and typically sent to PC users. > If encoding is required, should I just use Zip format? > Do most PC email clients/browsers automatically unzip files? > Is ZipIt the best choice for zipping on a Mac? OR Has Stuffit & Expander > made it's way to PC users yet? > > Thanks in advance for any help with these questions. > > Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net > EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice > InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------6CF4FBF852BECF50D7E89B7E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Robert E. Moran Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Robert E. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Did you see Quark is going to handle PDFs? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199710081523.JAA23256@sportsurf.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It seems to me like Quark recognizes that PDF is now and will increasingly become a standard file format in pre-press workflow. To leave out PDF would have put Quark at a disadvantage--especially if people will increasingly send PDFs to service bureaus, and service bureaus have to make last-minute alignment corrections by dropping the PDF onto a Quark page. Matthew Parker NetFormation, Inc. http://www.netformation.com (718) 625-4835 Mark Rauterkus wrote: > Hi, > > I read in one of the trade rags that Quark's popular DTP program is > going > to be able to place PDF files within its documents. > > Sounds like welcome news to me. > > Anyone else know anything else. I think the news hit at the Seybold > event. > > Reactions welcomed too. > > -------------- > Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net > > mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes > > FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with > built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. > -------------- > > +------------- > -----------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 16:45:33-GMT,2087;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09077 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:45:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA28238; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:42:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:35:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27819; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:35:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Cropping Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:38:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The Supercrop plug-in that comes on the 3.01 cdrom will allow you to crop odd or even pages separately. At lease for the Windows version. It can be found in the Goodies folder. Randy Johnston >>Wish list item, >>Having the ability to crop just the odds or just he evens >>would be a nice feature. Thanks, Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS +---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 17:36:29-GMT,1843;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10442 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:36:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA29939; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:31:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:23:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29610; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:23:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: bizx.com: Host sA1-d2.dreamscape.com [206.114.185.227] claimed to be default Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971008132207.006df248@bizx.com> X-Sender: pdfuser@bizx.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 13:22:52 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Paul Nelson Subject: [PDF] Losing Color... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Maybe someone can help me here I am trying to produce pdf files from original files produced in either Pagemaker 5, Word 97 or Corel Draw. The files produce color for text and drawings created within each program but I loose all color from any color graphic (gif or jpg) imported into the file. Is this a problem with the postscript drivers or Distiller? Thanks Regards, Paul paul@oswego.com http://oswego.com
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 19:47:38-GMT,2151;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13869 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:47:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02107; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:46:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:38:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA01677; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:37:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199710081938.OAA08267@netexpress.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Joshua G. Fenton" To: capture@lists.emrg.com Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:40:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [CAPTR] Un 'capturable' edge-of-page? In-reply-to: <3439493C.D24C110@ix.netcom.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-capture@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: capture@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, all. I haven't seen any comment about this recently, so I'm going to run this past you. We're using Capture 1.01 on Win95 with 32mb of RAM on a P200 processor. Scanning to multi-page TIFF on another system. Source are purchase orders (laser printed) and related documentation. Average document size is four pages. My problem is that the resulting Image+Text PDF's seem to have a 1/4 inch margin (or so) that is 'unreadable'. The source tiff has the data in question, but it is NOT in the resulting PDF. I've not seen this before... am I missing something you already knew? It is like suddenly discovering that your copy machine doesn't have edge-to-edge capability. Any hints would be appreciated! Joshua joshuaf 'at' adc-qc.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Capture is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Oct-1997 21:00:47-GMT,1687;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15931 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:00:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA04985; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:55:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:44:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA04432; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:44:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'PDF'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 Upgrade Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:47:38 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Calling Adobe did the trick. I received the Mac version today, and the Windows should come tomorrow. You have to talk to the right people over there though, to get the upgrade. It shipped UPS next day. ________The One-Off CD Shops - Washington, DC _________________4590 Graphics Drive _______________White Plains, MD 20695 __________(301) 870-0480 or (800) 678-8760 ________Internet: http://www.oneoffcd.ags.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 0:24:21-GMT,3039;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21239 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 18:24:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10227; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 19:20:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 19:13:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA09847; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 19:13:29 -0500 X-Sender: millercs@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710081523.JAA23256@sportsurf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:14:19 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "C. Scott Miller" Subject: Re: [PDF] Did you see Quark is going to handle PDFs? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Hi, > >I read in one of the trade rags that Quark's popular DTP program is going >to be able to place PDF files within its documents. > >Sounds like welcome news to me. > >Reactions welcomed too. Sure, it is great news but I don't think Quark is going far enough. Now that Adobe owns Pagemaker it seems natural to assume that dedicated Quark users (like myself) are, once again, going to be watching the comparative offerings of these two DTP giants very closely. My company has 10 years of Quark files. I need to be distilling files to the PDF format the most direct way possible because my clients and their ad publications are now stating a preference for ad submission in the form of PDF files. Soon my service bureaus and printers are going to follow suit. Is this going to require an expensive 3rd-party plug-in or is Quark going to eat humble pie and fully implement PDF with a Special Edition Distiller like Pagemaker does? Face it, Adobe now offers all three legs of the DTP table (Illustrator, Photoshop, Pagemaker) with a common interface. Not to mention FrameMaker (with SGML) for long documents and EDMS compliance. What does Quark offer today to compete with that? What about tomorrow? Do I want to learn a new DTP program and trash my investment in Quark Extensions and created files? Of course not. Do I want the new PDF rich capabilities of native Adobe Pagemaker and an integrated interface? Of course I do. Eat the pie Quark! P_e_r_f_o_r_m_a_n_c_e___G_r_a_p_h_i_c_s Phone: 818/508-5514 Fax: 818/508-5513 C. Scott Miller: miller@performancegraphics.com See our website at: http://www.performancegraphics.com designed as a PORTABLE DOCUMENT FORMAT (PDF) RESEARCH COMPANION +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 1:57:49-GMT,2880;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23382 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 19:57:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA12411; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:55:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:48:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA12031; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:48:11 -0500 Message-Id: <9710090148.AA27437@uakron.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 21:41:36 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Cross Document Links X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 20 Sep 97 at 16:30, Matt Jorgenson wrote: > > Hello, > > We do a number of multi-volume document sets for which we need > to link across documents. Our source documents are in FrameMaker. If > we print out our book files to individual PDF chapter files, > cross-document links work correctly. However, when we print out an > entire book to a single PDF document, the cross-document links are > looking for a chapter filename which doesn't exist. Has anyone > discovered a convenient way to maintain > > functional cross-document links when creating single PDF files from > the FrameMaker book level? > I am unfamiliar with FrameMaker. My source documents are TeX. TeX uses macros to define page layout. In TeX it would be easy to create a switch: When printing chapters to separate files plant /GoToR /Dest, and /File key-value pairs; if printing to a single volume plant just /GoTo and /Dest key-value pairs in the pdfmark. Perhaps with FrameMaker you can write macros for changing the nature of the link. Hope this helps. dps Dr. D. P. Story Department of Mathematical Sciences The University of Akron Akron, OH 44325 tele: (330) 972-7514 e-mail: dpstory@uakron.edu Home Page: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Home of ... e-Calculus: A Calculus I Tutorial on the WeB. Written in TeX and converted to the PDF format. See it at http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html and of ... An Algebra Review in 10 Lessons TeX to PDF http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 11:40:11-GMT,2713;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03852 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 05:40:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA20543; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 06:25:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 06:16:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA20180; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 06:16:23 -0500 Message-ID: <343CBC0E.28CE@wegener.nl> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 13:12:14 +0200 From: "Dinant Kroezen" Organization: Wegener Arcade X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Did you see Quark is going to handle PDFs? References: <199710081523.JAA23256@sportsurf.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thats right. Quark will produce Xtensions for im- and export. As far as I know only for Quark Xpress 4.0. There was a 'discussion' at the Seybold event. Both Adobe and Quark have this information on there sites. I'm interested when it will be released? Anybody info on this matter? regards, Dinant Kroezen consultant Information Technology Newspapers Wegener Arcade nv Apeldoorn The Netherlands Mark Rauterkus wrote: > > Hi, > > I read in one of the trade rags that Quark's popular DTP program is going > to be able to place PDF files within its documents. > > Sounds like welcome news to me. > > Anyone else know anything else. I think the news hit at the Seybold event. > > Reactions welcomed too. > > -------------- > Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net > > mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes > > FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with > built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. > -------------- > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 12:18:37-GMT,2264;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04494 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 06:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA21463; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 07:04:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 06:57:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA21106; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 06:57:50 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <343CBC0E.28CE@wegener.nl> References: <199710081523.JAA23256@sportsurf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 07:02:57 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Did you see Quark is going to handle PDFs? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This topic was the lead item in last week's Emerge EXTRA: http://www.emrg.com/new/extra100297.html rgds~Kurt === At 6:12 AM -0500 10/09/1997, Dinant Kroezen wrote: > Thats right. Quark will produce Xtensions for im- and export. As far as > I know only for Quark Xpress 4.0. > There was a 'discussion' at the Seybold event. > Both Adobe and Quark have this information on there sites. > I'm interested when it will be released? > Anybody info on this matter? _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ --> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <-- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE 800-829-2459 or 608-829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: 608-829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.emrg.com/ ========================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 14:35:41-GMT,3000;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07287 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:35:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24659; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:20:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:12:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA24281; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:12:36 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971009095958.0069eafc@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: stpaul#pop.erols.com@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 09:59:58 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky Subject: [PDF] Rendering a white-lettered web page in Acrobat Cc: shsh@mobilityltd.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm going crazy trying to get Acrobat to render a web page that uses a dark background and white text. As anyone knows who has tried to print a white-on-black web page directly from the web, the black background will print as white, camouflaging the text. I had hoped Acrobat would make the text visible, either as white-on-black or black-on-white. No luck. The web page in question is http://www.mobilityltd.com/. I've peeked at the HTML code: wherever white text appears in a table, Acrobat renders it as black, as a printer would. It is only white text lying outside a table that remains hidden. I'm using Acrobat 3.0 on Windows 95, with the Distiller PPD and Adobe's 4.1 PostScript driver. My browser is Internet Explorer 3.02. I've tried setting Distiller's PostScript Graphics options to "Print as a negative image." Ironically, this renders the black background as black... but white text lying outside a table remains hidden. Other colors are reversed. While I welcome a solution, please be sure you've actually tested it! I've tried Distiller and PDFWriter alike. I've fiddled with Explorer's options for font color, background color, and "Use Windows colors." In Distiller's Advanced tab, in "Under Color Removal / Black Generation," I've tried both Preserve and Remove. Nothing works. Please tell me I've overlooked something. I had to copy the text to the clipboard, paste it into NotePad, and print from there. Paul Franklin Stregevsky Technical Editor COMPA Industries, Inc. 20201 Century Blvd., Second Floor Germantown, Maryland 20874-1113 phone: (301) 601-4910 fax: (301) 601-4915 email: stpaul@erols.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 15:05:59-GMT,1822;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07969 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA25914; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:49:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:43:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25655; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:43:21 -0500 Message-ID: <343CFC4B.7303@inx.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 10:45:17 -0500 From: Matthew Parker Organization: NetFormation, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Faxing PDF from computers References: <199710081523.JAA23256@sportsurf.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A client has the need to fax PDFs directly from their computers to customers. On the surface, I don't see any problem faxing Acrobat documents from most fax software. I've tried it from my own and it seems to work well. I know that certain file format (such as Quark Xpress) are often problematic when faxing directly from computer. Does anyone have any experiences with this--positives or negatives? TIA, Matthew Parker NetFormation, Inc. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 15:09:33-GMT,2690;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08065 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:09:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA25738; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:44:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:37:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25305; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:37:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199710091438.IAA34720@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Losing Color... Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:39:32 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Just last night I showed a friend how to make PDFs and used as an example a Word97 file containing a high quality gif. It came over fine using the Distiller route. Make sure everything is set properly in Distiller under Job Options. Try setting the image compression options on high res and bump up the Downsample dpi to 200. This should yield an excellent PDF. Bev ---------- > From: Paul Nelson > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: [PDF] Losing Color... > Date: Wednesday, October 08, 1997 11:22 AM > > > Maybe someone can help me here > > > I am trying to produce pdf files from original files produced in either Pagemaker 5, Word 97 or Corel Draw. The files produce color for text and drawings created within each program but I loose all color from any color graphic (gif or jpg) imported into the file. > > > Is this a problem with the postscript drivers or Distiller? > > > Thanks > > > Regards, Paul > > paul@oswego.com > > http://oswego.com > >
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> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 15:15:37-GMT,3066;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08240 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:15:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA26595; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:04:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:58:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26246; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:58:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199710091459.IAA39140@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: "PDFlist PDFlist" Subject: [PDF] GIF to MOV (AVI) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:00:15 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The animated GIF to movie translation problem of last week has been largely solved but with some caveats. Here's a progress report (some of which is from a previous message). 1) For classroom or other presentations, include the animated GIF in a small html file and set a link from a PDF page to that file. The browser opens nicely and plays the GIF and a single click returns you to Acrobat. This gives the best looking GIF - i.e. original resolution. 2) Convert animated GIF to AVI with GIFConstructionSet (Alchemy Mindworks) and point to the AVI from a PDF page. This works, but so far I get a lower quality image - particularly with regard to text. Maybe a little more playing around with GIFConstructionSet will help. 3) The suggestion to 'deconstruct' the GIF, import into Premiere and make a MOV file from there was partly fruitful. It led me to the ULead GIF animator which turns out to be a good addition to the list of utility multimedia software. It separates an animated GIF into component files without hassle. However, Premiere wants to import a stack of BMPs rather than GIFs, so these have to be batch converted (GIF to BMP) with something like Paint Shop Pro. The resulting stack of BMP files can be turned into a movie with Adobe Premiere, but so fat I am having trouble getting the sizing correct. In any case, this is too cumbersome a route for routine work. WISH LIST 4) In the long run, it will be best if Adobe adds animated GIF to the list of file type it recognizes - just like a typical browser. Bev Mitchell Department of Biological Sciences University of Alberta Edmonton, AB Canada T6G 2E9 403-432-9583 bev.mitchell@ualberta.ca http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/bkmhome.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 15:23:02-GMT,2991;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08437 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:23:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27164; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:21:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:14:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26789; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:14:35 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:15:11 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: STOP!: [PDF] Invisible link boxes Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDF list subscribers, OK, let's bring this thread to a complete STOP. It's getting much too personal and inflammatory, which is a clear violation of list policy. Further antagonistic postings on this particular matter will be dealt with accordingly. While I'm not fond of playing the role of skull-cracker -- if/when necessary -- for the various lists we sponsor, to keep sparring among subscribers from wasting the time of all other subscribers, I'm now asking that people who have complaints contact me *privately* to share any concerns about the postings of others. I will use my best judgment, in consult with my colleagues, when some sort of action seems warranted. In the vast majority of cases, initial correspondence will be sent by me or Glenn directly to the sender(s) rather than to the entire list. Only in the most flagrant or continuous cases of abuse might we post to the entire list. Now let's get back to more productive uses of this list. tks~Kurt === >3. Please let the list moderator/manager, Mr. Foss, privately berate >those that abuse the privilege of being on the list. I personally have >a problem with those, such as yourself, who come on with their holier >than I attitude to the WHOLE list. However, I leave it to Mr. Foss to >work those issues behind the scenes. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ --> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <-- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.emrg.com/ ========================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 15:46:36-GMT,2058;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08961 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:46:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA28045; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:43:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:36:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27655; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:36:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199710091534.QAA26478@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] Faxing PDF from computers Date: Thu, 9 Oct 97 17:37:00 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >On the surface, I don't see any problem faxing Acrobat >documents from most fax software. I've tried it from my own and it seems >to work well. Me also. I've found Acrobat as the best solution to send faxes directly from computer. The main problem, with DTP software, is that they give their best when printing to PostScript, and not only when EPS elements are on the page. All fax drivers, instead, work as GDI or QuickDraw printer drivers that do strange things with these softwares. So Acrobat gives a perfect interface when translating PS to PDF, and then again when printing from PDF to non-PS drivers. I've found some compatibility problems on Macs in the past, with an earlier version of FaxStf, maybe the most famous Mac-to-Fax software solution. Now with v. 3.2 I get no more problems. Andrea +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 16:04:36-GMT,2201;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09369 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:04:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA28639; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:00:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:54:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA28288; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:54:17 -0500 X-Sender: millercs@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <343CFC4B.7303@inx.net> References: <199710081523.JAA23256@sportsurf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:41:49 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "C. Scott Miller" Subject: Re: [PDF] Faxing PDF from computers Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I know that certain file format (such as Quark Xpress) are >often problematic when faxing directly from computer. > >Does anyone have any experiences with this--positives or negatives? Using Global Fax software, Global Village Platinum, and several generations of Macs, I have had no problems faxing Quark files (scaled, grayscale, or other modes) to my customers Fax machines. E-mailing PDF files is the ideal solution for color proof transmission (particularly, across platforms). See http://www.performancegraphics.com/acrouses.html#Colorfax for details. P_e_r_f_o_r_m_a_n_c_e___G_r_a_p_h_i_c_s Phone: 818/508-5514 Fax: 818/508-5513 C. Scott Miller: miller@performancegraphics.com See our website at: http://www.performancegraphics.com designed as a PORTABLE DOCUMENT FORMAT (PDF) RESEARCH COMPANION +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 16:11:23-GMT,1637;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09522 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:11:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29066; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:09:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:03:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28717; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:03:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971009180427.0077d958@re.nettuno.it> X-Sender: reg001d1@re.nettuno.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 18:04:27 +0200 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: LinkService Subject: [PDF] Date/Time printout Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there anybody who knows about Reader plug-in able to AUTOMATICALLY add "Printed on xx-xx-xx time xx-xx-xx" on every page of my PDF files at the print time on Windows platform? We only need to customize the position of the text string (ie: upper-left corner etc.) Thanking you in advance, Best Regards. Massimo Pioli (LinkService Srl) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 16:13:26-GMT,1846;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09597 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:13:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29169; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:11:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:05:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28783; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:05:23 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: PDF@lists.emrg.com cc: mkossick@nexstar.com Message-ID: <8825652B.00572E7F.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:00:18 -0700 Subject: [PDF] file path question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We've just bookmarked a TOC to over 130 PDF files, using "go-to-view" and "open file" links. All the links worked on our hard drive. When we pressed to CD we've found that many of the links don't work. When we look at the bookmark properties we see that the links that do work show just the file name in the file information. The links that don't work have a full path showing. We think we've created the bookmarks the same each time, but maybe we're doing something odd. Does anyone have a clue how to resolve this so that we can be assured of good links on the CD? Thanks, Sue Sgililland@nexstar.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 16:15:49-GMT,3403;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09652 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:15:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29333; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:13:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:07:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28902; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:07:35 -0500 Date: 09 Oct 97 10:13:43 -0600 From: Dennis Walker Subject: RE: [PDF] Faxing PDF from computers To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1335730555-61604737@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Wow, did you hit on something that I can really be of help on. I've been fine tuning a system to fax QuarkXPress files (i.e. postscript, i.e. pdf) for the last year. And their have been some hurdles. I'll cut to the chase and give you the bottom line: In order to render a postscript based document properly to a fax document, IT HAS TO BE RIPPED. None of the fax software today does that; they all work with a print driver based on QuickDraw. Now, if your pdfs contain only text, it may look acceptable. But if your pages include any EPS files, lineart or pixel based, all that will render to the fax page is the low rez preview, which usually looks like crap. To get the fax page looking RIGHT, there is only one product which makes the process seemless. It's called StellarFax from TechPool Software (800-925-6998). It's not a replacement for fax software though, it actually RIPS the pages to a fax format using hi rez data and then opens the file in a viewer that you can then fax normally from. (BTW, we use 4-Sight fax with a server to do the faxing.) I can't speak highly enough about StellarFax though, it has totally streamlined that part of my production. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax Matthew Parker wrote: > >A client has the need to fax PDFs directly from their computers to >customers. On the surface, I don't see any problem faxing Acrobat >documents from most fax software. I've tried it from my own and it seems >to work well. I know that certain file format (such as Quark Xpress) are >often problematic when faxing directly from computer. > >Does anyone have any experiences with this--positives or negatives? > >TIA, > >Matthew Parker >NetFormation, Inc. >+------------------------------------------------------------------------ -+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------ -+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 16:21:47-GMT,1947;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09846 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:21:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29566; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:18:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:12:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29241; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:12:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD4D6.883202C0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Rendering a white-lettered web page in Acrobat Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:20:20 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, October 09, 1997 15:00, Paul Franklin Stregevsky [SMTP:stpaul@erols.com] wrote: > > I'm going crazy trying to get Acrobat to render a web page that uses a dark > background and white text. As anyone knows who has tried to print a > white-on-black web page directly from the web, the black background will > print as white, camouflaging the text. I had hoped Acrobat would make the > text visible, either as white-on-black or black-on-white. No luck. The problem isn't Acrobat. Web browsers, at least the ones I've tried, DO NOT PRINT BACKGROUND colours or patterns. So white text disappears. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 16:34:36-GMT,1983;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10189 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:34:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA30102; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:33:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:26:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29749; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:26:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199710091624.RAA26774@master.datanet.it> Subject: RE: [PDF] Faxing PDF from computers Date: Thu, 9 Oct 97 18:26:45 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >To get the fax page looking RIGHT, there is only one product which makes >the process seemless. It's called StellarFax from TechPool Software >(800-925-6998). It's not a replacement for fax software though, it >actually RIPS >the pages to a fax format using hi rez data and then opens the file in a >viewer that you can then fax normally from. (BTW, we use 4-Sight fax with >a server to do the faxing.) I think this is not the _only one_ solution: I've also had good results in the past with "Freedom of Press" which is a RIP that get PS files and can print to QuickDraw drivers perfectly. By the way I believe that the most robust PS interpretation is given by Distiller in most cases, so Acrobat is my preferred solution. Andrea +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 16:48:42-GMT,2725;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10592 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:48:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA30661; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:46:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:40:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA30316; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:40:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'PDF@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: FW: [PDF] file path question Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 12:43:45 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We recently had the same problem with some of our links on a CD. Perhaps someone from Adobe could comment. We used Acrobat 3.0. Perhaps 3.01 fixes the problem. We have all of our files on an NT server, and used the Windows 95 version of Exchange. > -----Original Message----- > From: sgililland@nexstar.com [SMTP:sgililland@nexstar.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 1997 12:00 PM > To: PDF@lists.emrg.com > Cc: mkossick@nexstar.com > Subject: [PDF] file path question > > > > We've just bookmarked a TOC to over 130 PDF files, using "go-to-view" > and > "open file" links. All the links worked on our hard drive. When we > pressed to CD we've found that many of the links don't work. When we > look > at the bookmark properties we see that the links that do work show > just the > file name in the file information. The links that don't work have a > full > path showing. We think we've created the bookmarks the same each > time, but > maybe we're doing something odd. Does anyone have a clue how to > resolve > this so that we can be assured of good links on the CD? > > Thanks, > > Sue > Sgililland@nexstar.com > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 18:56:17-GMT,2106;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13886 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 12:56:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA00509; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:54:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:45:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00164; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:45:47 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <343CFC4B.7303@inx.net> References: <199710081523.JAA23256@sportsurf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:45:25 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Jonathan Bauer Subject: Re: [PDF] Faxing PDF from computers Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I fax PDF documents directly from my Mac nearly every day using the current version of Global Village fax software. I have never had a problem. Actually I find this to be the most convenient method of faxing from the computer because I can add the transmission report to the PDF file and then delete the fax file. /jonathan >A client has the need to fax PDFs directly from their computers to >customers. On the surface, I don't see any problem faxing Acrobat >documents from most fax software. I've tried it from my own and it seems >to work well. I know that certain file format (such as Quark Xpress) are >often problematic when faxing directly from computer. > >Does anyone have any experiences with this--positives or negatives? mailto:jhbauer@akula.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 19:20:18-GMT,2402;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14500 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:20:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA01298; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:17:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:10:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA00956; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:10:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: bizx.com: Host sa26.dreamscape.com [206.114.183.155] claimed to be default Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971009150932.00683d38@bizx.com> X-Sender: pdfuser@bizx.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 15:09:46 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Paul Nelson Subject: Re: [PDF] Rendering a white-lettered web page in Acrobat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 09:59 AM 10/9/97 -0400, you wrote: > >I'm going crazy trying to get Acrobat to render a web page that uses a dark >background and white text. As anyone knows who has tried to print a >white-on-black web page directly from the web, the black background will >print as white, camouflaging the text. I had hoped Acrobat would make the >text visible, either as white-on-black or black-on-white. No luck. > I use Netscape 3.0. I successfully created a pdf of the webpage by going to the Options menu, selecting the General Preferences, selecting COLORS tab and the selecting (checking) Text as Black and the Checking "Always use my colors overriding document" This will allow you to then print from there. I don't currently use Explorer so I can't test that browser but I'd like to think it has similiar options. I have the file if you'd like me to send it to you. Regards, Paul paul@oswego.com http://oswego.com
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 20:35:08-GMT,7086;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16595 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:35:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA03105; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:32:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:18:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02679; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:18:53 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD4F9.75C4ACA0@Rockhse2.docctrl.com> From: Dave Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Date/Time printout Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 21:17:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCD4F9.75C4ACA0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCD4F9.75C4ACA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is against Adobe's licensing regulations to add anything to a PDF = file with a _Reader_ plugin.=20 As developers we sign "in blood" that we will be good boys and not do = lots of things which we would all love to do with the Reader. !! = Afterall Adobe are not a charity - despite some seeming to think they = should be! Our PDFcontrol product will do what you require either as a server or = client based function but you _must_ have Exchange on the client if it = is to be a client function. drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: LinkService [SMTP:linkservice@re.nettuno.it] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 1997 5:04 PM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Date/Time printout Is there anybody who knows about Reader plug-in able to AUTOMATICALLY = add "Printed on xx-xx-xx time xx-xx-xx" on every page of my PDF files at the print time on Windows platform? We only need to customize the position of the text string (ie: = upper-left corner etc.) Thanking you in advance, Best Regards. 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Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:07:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA04049; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:03:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:50:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA03575; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:50:53 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:51:14 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Jim Monte Subject: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with an OpenAction of GoToR Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I am writting PDF 1.2 directly from a program using the specifications at Adobe's web site. I am trying to have a PDF file open to a specified page via an HTML link by creating a dummy PDF file with its OpenAction being a GoToR opeining of the desired file at the specified page. So far it "almost" works (I think) since the Acrobat Reader opens the first (dummy) pdf file then recognizes a bad destination if I make the file name invalid. However, it will not open the file when I give the correct file name, and its error messages are not very helpful. Does anyone have sample code or pdf files for doing something close to this? If so, these would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jim Monte +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 21:36:36-GMT,1531;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18154 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:36:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA04854; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:34:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:23:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA04431; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:23:07 -0500 From: murban@ctv.es Message-ID: <343DBBA0.587E@ctv.es> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 22:22:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [es]C (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Losing text in word -->pdf References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello I lose text within box and frames when I print to Pdf Writer Word Documents. Has anyone discovered a convenient way to maintain text within boxes when print with Pdf Writer? Thanks, Mariano murban@ctv.es +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 22:14:15-GMT,1715;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19080 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:14:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05873; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:12:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:02:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA05510; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:02:13 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:07:18 -0500 To: PDF@lists.emrg.com From: linda dunk Subject: [PDF] ODMA files or compatiblity Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All; We have a potential customer is asking if our software is ODMA compatible, he said it had something to do with PDF format. Our software does come with a PDF plug in that creates web pages and reports using pdf format. Non of the Technical support people in our office have heard of this function. Is anyone familiar with ODMA and can tell me anything they know about this format. thanks linda ps I enjoy reading this list and have learned a lot from your wonderful bank of knowledge. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 22:44:46-GMT,2429;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19903 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:44:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA06688; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:42:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:32:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA06310; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:32:09 -0500 Message-ID: <343D5B0B.7BB5@adobe.com> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 15:30:35 -0700 From: Charles Myers Organization: Adobe Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] ODMA files or compatiblity References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ODMA is stands for the "Open Document Management API", which is a Windows-based API for applications to interface with document management clients for document checkin/ checkout, etc. Some ODMA providers are Documentum, Filenet, PCDOCS, Oracle Interoffice, Novell Groupwise, etc. Some ODMA-interfaced applications include Microsoft Office 97, Autocad, Corel, Lotus SmartSuite, and a host (approximately 100) of others. Information on ODMA can be found at their website within AIIM at http://www.aiim.org/odma/odma.htm linda dunk wrote: > > Hi All; > > We have a potential customer is asking if our software is ODMA > compatible, he said it had something to do with PDF format. Our software > does come with a PDF plug in that creates web pages and reports using pdf > format. > Non of the Technical support people in our office have heard of this > function. Is anyone familiar with ODMA and can tell me anything they know > about this format. > > thanks > linda > ps I enjoy reading this list and have learned a lot from your wonderful bank > of knowledge. > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 22:59:06-GMT,2640;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20213 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:59:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07249; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:57:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:47:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA06871; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:47:08 -0500 Message-ID: <343D6D70.25B213AD@inx.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 18:49:07 -0500 From: Matthew Parker Organization: NetFormation, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] ODMA files or compatiblity X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Linda: ODMA stands for Open Document Management API, which is an open standard promulgated by AIIM, the Association for Image and Information Management International. To find out more about this standard, visit their web site at http://www.aiim.org Matthew Parker NetFormation, Inc. http://www.netformation.com linda dunk wrote: > Hi All; > > We have a potential customer is asking if our software is ODMA > > compatible, he said it had something to do with PDF format. Our > software > does come with a PDF plug in that creates web pages and reports using > pdf > format. > Non of the Technical support people in our office have heard > of this > function. Is anyone familiar with ODMA and can tell me anything they > know > about this format. > > thanks > linda > ps I enjoy reading this list and have learned a lot from your > wonderful bank > of knowledge. > > +------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Oct-1997 23:11:47-GMT,2037;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20485 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:11:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07208; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:56:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:46:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA06795; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:46:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: bizx.com: Host sA1-a22.dreamscape.com [206.114.185.151] claimed to be default Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971009184510.006c44f0@bizx.com> X-Sender: pdfuser@bizx.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 18:45:27 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Paul Nelson Subject: Re: [PDF] Losing Color... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thank you to those who responded to my question. I had had my system crash this week and needed to re-install Win95 to correct the registry problem. Re-installing did not re-install all the print drivers. The answer about the driver needing to be a color driver made me look into my system more carefully (knowing now what to look for) and found that I needed to re-install the Acrobat Distiller printer. All is working great now! Thanks again. BTW if anyone has a method for getting a sharp screen shot in a pdf I'd love to know how. Regards, Paul paul@oswego.com http://oswego.com
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 0:44:37-GMT,2274;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22490 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:44:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09588; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:42:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:35:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA09226; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:35:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199710100035.SAA11599@sportsurf.net> X-Authentication-Warning: sportsurf.net: Host sss.pittsburgh.net [192.204.56.156] claimed to be [192.204.56.156] Subject: [PDF] Adobe Staff Increases for Acrobat yeilding results yet? Date: Thu, 9 Oct 97 20:45:22 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Adobe People Question: A while ago I had the impression that Adobe was short-handed on staffing in the Acrobat group -- and they were trying to hire some folks, yes? Well, has that happened? I'd like to know if and WHO some of the gang of Acrobaters are at Adobe, please. Any new hires lurking around here that would like to introduce themselves? How is the staffing issues these days for Adobe's Acrobat team? BTW, I'm not bucking for a job and I didn't even apply. :) I'm just hoping things are going to be moving forward on all fronts. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 2:52:30-GMT,2320;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24746 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 20:52:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA12493; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 21:49:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 21:41:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA12167; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 21:41:09 -0500 X-ROUTED: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 22:41:32 -0400 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <343D960C.385@imagebiz.com> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 22:42:20 -0400 From: Tony McKinley Organization: Intelligent Imaging X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] RE: Faxing PDF from Computers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Speaking of the issue of fax, and the increasingly popular network fax servers (same as network printers), PDF makes a ton more sense than trying to do pushbutton faxes of clumps of myriad document types. If you can put a step in the loop where all files turn into PDF, then it becomes just as easy to "Print" the folder-of-different-docs on fax as it is on a printer. It is much more difficult for an application to "print" disparate file types (Word, Excel, PPT, fax, scanned image, Visio, etc.) to fax (or printer) than it is for the same app to send an automatically compiled PDF that includes all of the above, through a fax board or fax server. Apologies for an annually repetitive post. Tony -- Tony McKinley Intelligent Imaging mailto:tonymck@imagebiz.com - Voice: 610.647.5570 >From Paper to Web - http://imagebiz.com/PaperWeb ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - Internet Expert Editor's Recommended Book at AMAZON.com!!! Now in 2nd Printing ! !! !!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 4:09:46-GMT,2607;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA26167 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 22:09:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA13830; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 22:54:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Oct 1997 22:45:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA13499; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 22:45:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199710100345.WAA13495@everglades.binc.net> Subject: RE: [PDF] Date/Time printout Date: Thu, 9 Oct 97 23:47:39 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >From: LinkService [SMTP:linkservice@re.nettuno.it] >Sent: Thursday, October 09, 1997 5:04 PM >To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >Subject: [PDF] Date/Time printout > > >Is there anybody who knows about Reader plug-in able to AUTOMATICALLY add >"Printed on xx-xx-xx time xx-xx-xx" on every page of my PDF files at the >print time on Windows platform? >We only need to customize the position of the text string (ie: upper-left >corner etc.) > >Thanking you in advance, >Best Regards. > > >Massimo Pioli >(LinkService Srl) Massimo, Digital Applications has an Acrobat plug-in called DateD which adds the current date and an author definable message to the header or footer of a PDF document. DateD will work with the Acrobat Reader on Windows 95, NT, 3.1 or Macintosh and supports printing to Postscript and non-postscript printers. Documents that are to be DateD are tagged by the document author or administrator using the DateD Author plug-in. The DateD viewer plug-in is distributed to all users and allows the display and printing of the custom information. DateD can work with the Acrobat Reader because it is not saving any changes to the PDF document. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 7:08:57-GMT,2023;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29593 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 01:08:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA16932; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 02:07:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 01:59:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA16547; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 01:59:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199710100657.HAA28866@master.datanet.it> Subject: RE: [PDF] Date/Time printout Date: Fri, 10 Oct 97 08:59:46 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Documents that are to be DateD are tagged by the document >author or administrator using the DateD Author plug-in. The DateD viewer >plug-in is distributed to all users and allows the display and printing >of the custom information. Would you please explain more the mechanics of DateD? If I well understand, there's an author plug-in that writes a tag in the PDF for subsequent wake up with the client plug-in on AcroRead? What I don't understand is where the phisical message and time/date data are stored to be rendered on print? Is it a dynamical addition to the printout stream or effectively is something (little) that changes on the PDF content (even without saving)? Do you have any reference on the web to DateD info/demo? Greetings, Andrea Valle +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 8:02:39-GMT,5999;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00452 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 02:02:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA17973; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 03:00:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 02:52:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA17535; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 02:52:34 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD55A.59DC1620@Rockhse2.docctrl.com> From: Dave Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Losing text in word -->pdf Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:40:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCD55A.59E3B740" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCD55A.59E3B740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't have this problem (Word 97 to PDF via PDFwriter 3.0.) Perhaps you are running an old version of PDFwriter? drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: murban@ctv.es [SMTP:murban@ctv.es] Sent: Friday, October 10, 1997 6:23 AM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Losing text in word -->pdf Hello I lose text within box and frames when I print to Pdf Writer Word Documents. Has anyone discovered a convenient way to maintain text within boxes when print with Pdf Writer? 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Fri, 10 Oct 1997 02:03:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA18023; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 03:01:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 02:53:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA17586; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 02:53:47 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD55A.87443B60@Rockhse2.docctrl.com> From: Dave Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Cc: "'euroADA@adobe.com'" , "'Dave Stevenson - Adobe'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Date/Time printout Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:48:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCD55A.87443B60" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCD55A.87443B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Have you cleared this with ADA ? The contract we signed says _modifies or saves_. Is this different for the US? If so - why? The ability to do this would make a lot of difference to us. Can anyone from Adobe or ADA please comment! Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Gavin [SMTP:mgavin@digapp.com] Sent: Friday, October 10, 1997 4:48 AM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com; linkservice@re.nettuno.it Subject: RE: [PDF] Date/Time printout >From: LinkService [SMTP:linkservice@re.nettuno.it] >Sent: Thursday, October 09, 1997 5:04 PM >To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >Subject: [PDF] Date/Time printout > > >Is there anybody who knows about Reader plug-in able to AUTOMATICALLY add >"Printed on xx-xx-xx time xx-xx-xx" on every page of my PDF files at the >print time on Windows platform? >We only need to customize the position of the text string (ie: upper-left >corner etc.) > >Thanking you in advance, >Best Regards. > > >Massimo Pioli >(LinkService Srl) Massimo, Digital Applications has an Acrobat plug-in called DateD which adds the current date and an author definable message to the header or footer of a PDF document. DateD will work with the Acrobat Reader on Windows 95, NT, 3.1 or Macintosh and supports printing to Postscript and non-postscript printers. Documents that are to be DateD are tagged by the document author or administrator using the DateD Author plug-in. The DateD viewer plug-in is distributed to all users and allows the display and printing of the custom information. DateD can work with the Acrobat Reader because it is not saving any changes to the PDF document. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCD55A.87443B60 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhkHAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAEAUAAAMAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAUAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAAQwAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5lbXJn LmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5lbXJnLmNvbQAAHgACMAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAAMwAQAA ABMAAABwZGZAbGlzdHMuZW1yZy5jb20AAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABUAAAAncGRm 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04:55:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 04:47:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA19383; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 04:47:25 -0500 Message-ID: <343DF74C.59C6@merlin-os.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:37:16 +0100 From: David R Evans Organization: Merlin Open Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Date/Time printout References: <3.0.3.32.19971009180427.0077d958@re.nettuno.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I do not think that there is ANY way of legitimately doing this from a Reader plug-in as the Reader Plug-in license agreement does not allow PDF files to be modified or saved from Reader. How else can you add the current date to the page? The alternative way to achieve the date stamping is to intercept printing at the Windows level (this may be possible on other platforms too). We have done this in our Date Stamp product which is a Windows hook not a Reader plug-in. Contact me privately for details. Regards David ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 Merlin Open Systems (+44) 115 9514230 (direct) P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.ep.cs.nott.ac.uk/merlin/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 13:04:45-GMT,3078;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05690 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:04:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA22414; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:02:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:52:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA22019; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:52:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199710101253.GAA29466@sportsurf.net> X-Authentication-Warning: sportsurf.net: Host sss.pittsburgh.net [192.204.56.156] claimed to be [192.204.56.156] Subject: Re: [PDF] Did you see Quark is going to handle PDFs? Date: Fri, 10 Oct 97 09:02:36 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, General global questions follow.... How hard is it for an application developer to insert (embed) PDFs within their application's documents -- such as Quark has said it will do? Or, is this really a silly thing to do anyway. To embed a PDF into a document might only make good sense for those types of documents that are going to print and need to be ripped? Just wondering: We have an E-book environment. Would it make sense to be able to embed a PDF within the E-book? What about putting a PDF within something like Word? Does that make sense? Are links just good enough? I think that the whole EMBED thing got snagged a bit with the HTML pages not really working well with the PDF EMBEDing. Has this been fixed? What are the upsides? Should multi-media applications be able to EMBED PDFs? Extra hooks are always a good thing IMHO -- and those of you who are doing the massive CD-ROMs with lots and lots of PDFs might be able to have a few other options as glue to hold the PDFs together. Does it make sense for Adobe to provide more aggressive tool-set give-a-ways to application developers so that PDFs can be embeded without pain? Is embeding going to be must-have, buzz-word task? The concept has a history, to be sure, but on the Mac OS is sorta ran out of gas when the powers that be applied the breaks. Just wondering. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 13:18:27-GMT,2788;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05986 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:18:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA22956; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:16:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:09:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22601; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:09:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199710101306.OAA30531@master.datanet.it> Subject: [PDF] Acrobat security Date: Fri, 10 Oct 97 15:08:56 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA22598 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I was looking for some informations about security on Mac software, and I found an interesting article, that has made me think another bit to security of our Acrobat documents. Here's the URL: http://uk.macworld.com/nov95/features/security.html In a particular paragraph, the Acrobat security is inspected: (citation) Acrobat Adobe's portable-document-creation program (£160; Principal, 01706 832 000) provides one password to allow access to a document, and another to change security options. These options include allowing (or not allowing) recipients to print an Acrobat document, change its contents, select text and graphics to copy to the Clipboard, and add or change notes. When Heller examined the Acrobat files, it was clear to him that Adobe had done its homework. Acrobat uses techniques that are on a par with those of some commercial security programs, and it combines encryption with data compression. Heller, who has co-authored a commercial compression program, cheerfully admitted this combination was beyond his abilities - compression made even looking at the file almost impossible. After two hours, he gave up. (end of citation) I'd like a comment about this assert, and even know if someone has or knows about successful hacks to Acrobat's standard security scheme. Greetings, Andrea Valle Datanet Srl Pero, MI - Italy --------------------- http://www.datanet.it --------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 13:32:25-GMT,2744;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06242 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA23478; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:30:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:22:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA23063; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:22:42 -0500 X-Sender: osa\fharri\fharris@mail.osa.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:34:14 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: fharri@osa.org (Frank Harris) Subject: Re: [PDF] Some color pictures in color, some in b/w Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you make the PostScript using a color PostScript printer driver, the problem goes away. >I've experienced the same thing with color graphs, etc. in Word Documents. The >problem occurred when the file was sent through the distiller. When going >through the PDF Writer Printer Driver, the color comes out fine. >I haven't been able to thoroughly test it, but I've seen it happen a few >times. I don't have an explanation, but not using the distiller for color >pages seemed to correct the problem > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org 2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org ------------------------- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 14:07:28-GMT,5844;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07029 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:07:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24614; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:06:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:57:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA24163; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:57:21 -0500 Message-Id: <01BCD55A.B8BB8040@zamboni.microware.com> From: Kathryn Whitver To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for October-9-97 [V2 #49] Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:58:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCD55A.B8CC4920" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCD55A.B8CC4920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 20 Sep 97 at 16:30, Matt Jorgenson wrote: > We do a number of multi-volume document sets for which we need > to link across documents. Our source documents are in FrameMaker. If > we print out our book files to individual PDF chapter files, > cross-document links work correctly. However, when we print out an > entire book to a single PDF document, the cross-document links are > looking for a chapter filename which doesn't exist. Has anyone > discovered a convenient way to maintain > > functional cross-document links when creating single PDF files from > the FrameMaker book level? [Kathryn Whitver] Matt, If you are using FrameMaker 5.1.2 or before, you can only maintain cross-document links by printing books as separate PDF chapters. If you upgrade to Frame 5.5, this problem is fixed. When you print a book that has links to other books, you open the other book files and then Save As to create a PDF file with the cross-document links in place. For more explanation, see your Frame documentation. In Frame 5 it's on page 27-40. In Frame 5.5 it's on page 449. 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Note that for GoToR you must specify the destination as a page number which is ZERO based rather than an object number. Also read the section carefully on filename specifications! Hope this helps, - David 8 0 obj << /Type /Annot /Subtype /Link /Rect [0.00 819.00 582.00 747.00] /C [1.0000 0.0000 0.0000] /Border [16 16 1] /A << /Type /Action /S /GoToR /D [5 /XYZ null null null] /F (//temp/pdfspec.pdf) >> >> endobj +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 15:27:31-GMT,1802;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09022 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:27:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA26879; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:24:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:15:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26384; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:15:08 -0500 Message-ID: <343E4809.4019C8F3@Globalreach.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:21:46 -0500 From: Scottie Scott Organization: Graphics 2000 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Tiff IT? What the heck is this? References: <199710072226.RAA05091@or1.onrampinc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 That could have been me. When I or somebody else said Tiff It, we meet to make your graphics a tiff file. I could be wrong, but thats my understanding. But, for printing purposes, its best to make your graphics .eps files. Somewhere in the Adobe Web site, they explain how to get the best results when using Acrobat and graphics that you later will want to print. Scottie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 16:11:42-GMT,3473;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10221 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:11:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA27952; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:06:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:57:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27534; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:57:34 -0500 Date: 10 Oct 97 10:03:54 -0600 From: Dennis Walker Subject: Re: [PDF] Tiff IT? What the heck is this? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1335644745-66771316@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Since no one else has offered an answer to this, here goes: TIFF/IT file format was once considered a competing file format to PDF for a portable file technology (in a way, it's similar to Scitex CT/LW). Now it's considered "complimentary," if you buy the latest spin promoted by Adobe (no insult intended). TIFF/IT is a completely pixel based file with no fonts or other vector art contained within. It's usually used at 2400+ resolution with massive compression applied. Also, it would only be used for files destined for a printing press. Time-Warner is the format's biggest proponent and uses it for all their pubs that have gone CTP. Currently, it takes high end (i.e. expensive) pre-press RIPs to create the files. IMHO, PDF usage will (and probably now does) dwarf the usage of TIFF/IT in prepress. Yet it does have it's place for prepress people wanting to send a post-RIPped file so as to eliminate any chance of output problems. Of course, you loose other benefits that PDF offers, like last minute changes. The reason I don't believe that it is truly "complimentary" to PDF is that the tools that exist today (i.e. Distiller, Exchange & all the plugins) aren't robust enough to handle the high resolution of TIFF/IT files without crashing and erroring into submission, IMHO of course. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax Scottie Scott wrote: > >That could have been me. When I or somebody else said Tiff It, we meet >to make your graphics a tiff file. I could be wrong, but thats my >understanding. > >But, for printing purposes, its best to make your graphics .eps files. >Somewhere in the Adobe Web site, they explain how to get the best >results when using Acrobat and graphics that you later will want to >print. > >Scottie > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------ -+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------ -+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 19:05:49-GMT,2164;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16753 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:05:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA31175; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:04:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:56:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA30767; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:56:37 -0500 Message-ID: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B1808B0C6@cougar.tfmg.com> From: Robin McCloud To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Link Troubleshooting Question Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 12:00:15 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Help! Our department is creating links within and between 15 .pdf files. We're fairly new at using Adobe Exchange with MS Office 97, so we're learning as we go. I didn't realize until today (5 volumes later) that we have been working on shared documents on a server and not locally on a hard drive. We're planning to put this info on a CD. When I moved the files to another area, the links, of course, no longer worked because the paths had changed. Is there a way to fix this glitch by changing the paths (like you can in the html source) without having to go into each link and recreate the link manually??? I can't find any information on this in the online guide. Thanks for any information you can give me. Robin Mc2 (McCloud McDonald) Sr. Technical Writer, Information Development The FAST Management Group, Inc. Redmond WA +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Oct-1997 22:14:46-GMT,2388;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21430 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA02709; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:09:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:58:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA02142; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:58:30 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:59:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, capture@lists.emrg.com, pdfdev@lists.emrg.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] 10/9/97 Acrobat PDF Newsweekly Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 +++ Apologies in advance for duplicates some may receive +++ Emerge EXTRA 10/9/97 is now available on the Web at: http://www.emrg.com/new/extra100997.html The current issue of the Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: - Online Shopping via PDF Product Sheets - Acrobat v3.0 Training in MadTown in Nov. & Dec. - NEW for the PDF Toolkit - Face It! and CheckUp - If El Nino Comes Calling, Download a Disaster Planning Kit - MacWeek on PDF at Seybold Publishing '97 ...and more. 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Huston Jr." Organization: Netcastle Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Link Troubleshooting Question References: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B1808B0C6@cougar.tfmg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Robin McCloud wrote: > > Help! Our department is creating links within and between 15 .pdf files. > We're fairly new at using Adobe Exchange with MS Office 97, so we're > learning as we go. > > I didn't realize until today (5 volumes later) that we have been working > on shared documents on a server and not locally on a hard drive. We're > planning to put this info on a CD. When I moved the files to another > area, the links, of course, no longer worked because the paths had > changed. > > Is there a way to fix this glitch by changing the paths (like you can in > the html source) without having to go into each link and recreate the > link manually??? I can't find any information on this in the online > guide. > > Thanks for any information you can give me. > > Robin Mc2 (McCloud McDonald) > Sr. Technical Writer, Information Development > The FAST Management Group, Inc. > Redmond WA > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I do much the same thing and my solution takes a little more drive space, but it works. I keep the files to be copied to CD on the PC with the recorder, and another copy on the network for internal viewing. When writing to CD I am not connected to the network. But, when I move files around I've never lost the links as long as I keep the files together in a folder. Cheers -- Virgil H. Huston Jr. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Oct-1997 1:50:07-GMT,2350;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29347 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:50:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA07216; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 20:46:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 20:39:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA06891; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 20:39:30 -0500 From: ScottieIII@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 21:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <971010213743_1133206693@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Screen Shots into PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hey Paul, I use screen shots all day. We are putting together a tutorial for an Oracle base program. The tutorial have many screen shots of the Oracle screen. Here it is: You are not gonna get a very good screen shot if it has a lot of text. The text will not come out good. Too jaggy. Our workaround is... open Photoshop before taking the screen shot. Next, take your screen shot, then immediately paste it into Photoshop. You must remove all the text from your screen shot. If you know Photoshop, then this should be easy. If not then E-Mail me and I will give you some help. Print a copy of the screen shot before you remove the text. After all your text is gone then flatten your screen shot in Photoshop then save as a Tiff. You then want to import your screen shots into PageMaker. In PageMaker you will put all the text back into the screen shot. Set the preference in PageMaker to view graphics at high resolution. From PageMaker, you will export all your screen shot as PDF. I find that PageMaker is the easiest way to layout then make an entire document a PDF. All distilling is done automatic. By the way, thats PageMaker 6.5. Well worth the investment. Scottie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Oct-1997 0:53:38-GMT,2110;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28305 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:53:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA06034; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:51:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:44:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA05650; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:44:34 -0500 Message-ID: <343ECC63.10F4@primary.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:46:27 -0500 From: Randy Hoggard X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] RE: Screen Shots into PDF References: <199710100035.TAA09243@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Paul Wrote: >BTW if anyone has a method for getting a sharp screen shot in a pdf I'd >love to know how. > >Regards, Paul >paul@oswego.com Paul, I have to create software instructionals for our Sales Force. I use Win 95 to take the "screen shot", then if the shot is just what I need, I paste it into Word97, then print to Distiller. Once I get it into Exchange, I usually have to find the best magnification for clarity and to avoid "bitmapping". Forcing an "Open with" magnification of about 135% usually keeps the image really clear. BTW it prints great too. If the shot is not exactly what I want (need a pointer for instance), I'll take it into Photo Shop and tweak it there, then paste that image into Word, etc. Randy Hoggard, INSIGHT System Analyst MOOG Automotive +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Oct-1997 20:10:17-GMT,3002;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (root@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01742 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 14:10:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA18489; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:01:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:52:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA18041; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:52:23 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B1808B0C6@cougar.tfmg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:14:12 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Link Troubleshooting Question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Help! Our department is creating links within and between 15 .pdf files. >We're fairly new at using Adobe Exchange with MS Office 97, so we're >learning as we go. > >I didn't realize until today (5 volumes later) that we have been working >on shared documents on a server and not locally on a hard drive. We're >planning to put this info on a CD. When I moved the files to another >area, the links, of course, no longer worked because the paths had >changed. > >Is there a way to fix this glitch by changing the paths (like you can in >the html source) without having to go into each link and recreate the >link manually??? I can't find any information on this in the online >guide. Yes, but you have to do it carefully. The link paths are stored in unencoded ASCII text strings in the PDF file as link objects. It's easy to open a PDF file and do a search-and-replace with a good text editor, replacing your network volume path with the path you want, probably a relative path. Build a path link that works and compare it to the bad one to see. But do it carefully. Use a programmer text editor like (MacSink or BBEdit on the Mac), not a word processor which may misinterpret high ASCII characters as page breaks, for example. After doing the search and replace, open the file in Exchange. You should get a message saying it is trying to fix the file (the cross refrence table pointers are going to be off, but the object count will be the same so it should be able to repair the file easily), and then save the result. Needless to say, do this on a copy, not the original. And test thoroughly on one file before you do this on the rest. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Oct-1997 21:52:53-GMT,3098;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26849 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:52:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA06092; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:34:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05453; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:34:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199710122132.XAA24017@aralia.wanadoo.fr> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: "Gary Cosimini" Cc: Subject: [PDF] Link Syntax of Form field from Word 97... Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:33:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD054.BAB0A3E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD054.BAB0A3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I want to create a PDF form field from Word 97, before launch PDFmarker = macro. What is the syntax of this PDF form field under Word 97? Or can i open PDF file to create this form field with text Editor, and = search/replace command ? What is the form field syntax in the PDF file? = What text editor can i use for this operation, under Windows? Thanks=20 Franck=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD054.BAB0A3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 Hello,

I want to create a PDF = form field from=20 Word 97, before launch PDFmarker macro. What is the syntax of this PDF = form=20 field under Word 97?

Or can i open PDF file to = create this=20 form field with text Editor, and search/replace command ? What is the = form field=20 syntax in the PDF file? What text editor can i use for this operation, = under=20 Windows?

Thanks 

Franck  ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD054.BAB0A3E0-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Oct-1997 21:55:13-GMT,3517;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26874 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:55:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA06199; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:54:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:43:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05729; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:43:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199710122132.XAA24017@aralia.wanadoo.fr> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" Old-To: "Gary Cosimini" Cc: Subject: [PDF] Link Syntax of Form field from Word 97... Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:33:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD054.BAB0A3E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD054.BAB0A3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I want to create a PDF form field from Word 97, before launch PDFmarker = macro. What is the syntax of this PDF form field under Word 97? Or can i open PDF file to create this form field with text Editor, and = search/replace command ? What is the form field syntax in the PDF file? = What text editor can i use for this operation, under Windows? Thanks=20 Franck=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD054.BAB0A3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 Hello,

I want to create a PDF = form field from=20 Word 97, before launch PDFmarker macro. What is the syntax of this PDF = form=20 field under Word 97?

Or can i open PDF file to = create this=20 form field with text Editor, and search/replace command ? What is the = form field=20 syntax in the PDF file? What text editor can i use for this operation, = under=20 Windows?

Thanks 

Franck  ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD054.BAB0A3E0-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Oct-1997 4:30:40-GMT,3490;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03754 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:30:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA11909; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:27:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:16:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA11521; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:16:11 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD764.D600A840@max2-hou-195.infohwy.com> From: Ron Culp To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] Wish List Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:16:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCD764.D609D000" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCD764.D609D000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where can I find an Exchange Plugin that will audit a folder of PDFs and give me a: - page count - link count - bookmark count? I would welcome responses from vendors, but would greatly appreciate hearing from users of such products. TIA. 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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 10:25:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCCA66.7A1E1CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCCA66.7A1E1CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Autoindex plugin is not needed with Acrobat Exchange 3.0 or Acrobat = Reader 3.0, which both include this functionality. But how can i add a list of index ( =3D several index), or all index in = a directory with this functionality? Thanks=20 Franck ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCCA66.7A1E1CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 Hello,

Autoindex plugin is = not needed=20 with Acrobat Exchange 3.0 or Acrobat Reader 3.0, which both include this = functionality.

But how = can i add a list=20 of index ( =3D several index), or all index in a directory with this=20 functionality?

Thanks 

Franck ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCCA66.7A1E1CC0-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Oct-1997 9:29:17-GMT,3065;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09167 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 03:29:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA16300; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:24:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:16:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15942; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:16:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199710130915.LAA13612@aralia.wanadoo.fr> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: Subject: [PDF] Autoindex plugin with several index added... Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:15:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD7C9.5F3A8400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD7C9.5F3A8400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Autoindex plugin is not needed with Acrobat Exchange 3.0 or Acrobat = Reader 3.0, which both include this functionality.=20 But how can i add a list of index ( =3D several index), or all index in = a directory with this functionality?=20 Thanks =20 Franck=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD7C9.5F3A8400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 Hello,

Autoindex = plugin is not=20 needed with Acrobat Exchange 3.0 or Acrobat Reader 3.0, which both = include this=20 functionality. 

But how = can i add a list=20 of index ( =3D several index), or all index in a directory with this=20 functionality? 

Thanks  

Franck 

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BCD7C9.5F3A8400-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Oct-1997 10:12:15-GMT,1858;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09785 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:12:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA17179; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 05:09:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Oct 1997 05:02:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA16833; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 05:02:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD7C7.8CE03960.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Autoindex plugin with several index added... Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:49:22 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Friday, September 26, 1997 09:25, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > Hello, > > Autoindex plugin is not needed with Acrobat Exchange 3.0 or Acrobat Reader 3.0, which both include this functionality. > Looking at this you are partly right. The Autoindex plug-in is still needed, but it looks as though it comes with the product. > But how can i add a list of index ( = several index), or all index in a > directory with this functionality? You can't. You'd need a custom plug-in. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Oct-1997 13:32:05-GMT,2304;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13125 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:32:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA20058; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:30:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:22:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19683; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:22:32 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:23:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "Marco Squintani" Subject: re: [PDF] Autoindex plugin with several index added... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Are you sure that this functionality, simply create a permanent link to an index ? If i've understood right what you mean, to autoindex a document (= put it's contents in a full-text index or it's structured data) you must put it in a directory watched by the CATALOG program. In this last SW you can tell which directories must be taken under control and which is the frequency (hours, one day per week ...) to do this. I hope this will be of help... > From: "Franck Filhoulaud" , on 26/09/97 10.25: > > Hello, > > Autoindex plugin is not needed with Acrobat Exchange 3.0 or Acrobat Reader > 3.0, which both include this functionality. > > But how can i add a list of index ( = several index), or all index in a > directory with this functionality? > > Thanks > > Franck > > """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Oct-1997 13:51:45-GMT,3391;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13502 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:51:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA20633; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:49:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:43:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA20301; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:43:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199710131342.PAA03586@aralia.wanadoo.fr> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: Subject: Re and Correction: [PDF] Autoindex plugin with several index added... Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:43:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks, but i want load several index with lauunched a file. Ex: In a directory, there are lot of index, and i want load these index to operate a request. In fact, it 's the same thing that load index : Tools -> Index -> ad index, ... But i want to ad automatically all index in a directory to make a search with all index. Thank Franck -----Message d'origine----- De : Marco Squintani À : pdf@lists.emrg.com Date : lundi 13 octobre 1997 15:29 Objet : re: [PDF] Autoindex plugin with several index added... > >Are you sure that this functionality, simply create a permanent link to an >index ? >If i've understood right what you mean, to autoindex a document (= put it's >contents in a full-text index or it's structured data) you must put it in a >directory watched by the CATALOG program. In this last SW you can tell which >directories must be taken under control and which is the frequency (hours, one >day per week ...) to do this. > >I hope this will be of help... > >> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" , on 26/09/97 10.25: >> >> Hello, >> >> Autoindex plugin is not needed with Acrobat Exchange 3.0 or Acrobat Reader >> 3.0, which both include this functionality. >> >> But how can i add a list of index ( = several index), or all index in a >> directory with this functionality? >> >> Thanks >> >> Franck >> >> > > """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. > -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy >--.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Oct-1997 6:48:48-GMT,1603;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06487 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:48:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA13863; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:45:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:36:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA13510; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:36:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199710130646.IAA22775@zahra.easynet.it> Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Search Date: Mon, 13 Oct 97 08:36:41 +0100 x-sender: public@easy1.easynet.it x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Milko Schiopetto To: "FrameMaker" , "Acrobat PDF" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello. After installing Acrobat from FrameMaker 5.5 CDrom, i have noticed that there is'nt installed the Acrobat Search 3.0 online guide (Adobe Acrobat 3.0:Help:SEARCH.PDF). There is a bug in the installer ? Could i install the Search from Acrobat Reader CD ? Thank you very much. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Oct-1997 6:48:48-GMT,1603;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06487 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:48:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA13863; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:45:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:36:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA13510; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:36:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199710130646.IAA22775@zahra.easynet.it> Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Search Date: Mon, 13 Oct 97 08:36:41 +0100 x-sender: public@easy1.easynet.it x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Milko Schiopetto To: "FrameMaker" , "Acrobat PDF" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello. After installing Acrobat from FrameMaker 5.5 CDrom, i have noticed that there is'nt installed the Acrobat Search 3.0 online guide (Adobe Acrobat 3.0:Help:SEARCH.PDF). There is a bug in the installer ? Could i install the Search from Acrobat Reader CD ? Thank you very much. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Oct-1997 17:55:16-GMT,1821;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19527 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:55:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA25612; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:52:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:44:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25123; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:44:26 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971013174409.0090b8c8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:44:09 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: [PDF] How to set up AcroRD32 as Helper app in MSIE Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Having downloaded and installed all (ugh) 21MB of the new MS Internet Explorer 4, I would now like to set up Acrobat Reader 3.01 so that it does NOT view PDFs within the browser window; i.e., I want to start Acrobat as a separate "helper" app when I click on a PDF link on a web page. With Netscape, it's easy, and even well-documented in the Acrobat README! -- just remove "nppdf32.dll" from Netscape's plugins folder. Does anyone know how to do this with MSIE 4.0 ? TIA Tom Thiersch +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Oct-1997 23:39:39-GMT,1540;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27694 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:39:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA31311; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:36:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:18:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA30466; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:18:07 -0500 X-Sender: mccorkle@pop.athenet.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:07:11 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Brian McCorkle Subject: [PDF] Exchange 3.01 Error on Mac Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have been getting and error alert that says "There was a RAISE without a handler The application will now exit." This is on a 68040 Mac with System 8. Once I get this error I have to restart in order to run Exchange. Anyone know what this is about? Brian mccorkle@athenet.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Oct-1997 23:44:18-GMT,1512;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27795 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:44:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA31499; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:42:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:33:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA31160; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:33:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3442AFF2.1A9E@starnetinc.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:34:10 -0500 From: George Hunter X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf Subject: [PDF] CD-ROM mastering companies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would appreciate referrals (to me offline) to CD-ROM mastering companies. I have the content of the CD, but I am now looking for a company that can assist with the details of the mastering/replication/ and artwork... Thanks, George Hunter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 11:08:38-GMT,2395;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10370 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 05:08:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA07228; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 06:06:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 05:59:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA06908; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 05:59:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199710141059.LAA27284@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> From: "Peter Mathews" To: Subject: [PDF] Date / Time Printout Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:01:02 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To follow on from the thread of 11 October regarding the functionality of the DateD plug-in from Digital Apps. I was sat in a meeting with Adobe (Europe) on Friday discussing the very subject of plug-in developments and legitimacy. It would appear that the latest Reader Plug-In Privelidge Development License Agreement from Adobe does indeed outlaw such developments, which "mimic" functions which could/should be performed by Acrobat Exchange. (We have a similar funtion in our Banner Print product, and as it temporarily modifies the PDF file, we have to insist that the user chooses Acrobat Exchange to run it with). At the time of writing this (and not yet receiving Monday's PDF-Digest), I have not yet seen a response from Adobe to this point, who really should be the arbiter of this issue. Obviously, there has been input from the UK-based developers, Dave Cornwell and David Evans, but no input from the US-based, Europe-based or any other developers. Have they been informed of this change in licensing policy yet? Regards Peter Mathews +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 11:38:23-GMT,1680;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10824 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 05:38:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA07960; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 06:36:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 06:30:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA07640; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 06:30:13 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710141059.LAA27284@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:28:51 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Jonathan Bauer Subject: [PDF] Acrobat & Rhapsody (mac) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi: I saw that the rhapsody developer seed has been sent out (or is just about to). Has anyone been following whether adobe is going to support this in acrobat and for PDF files - that is, have they made any kind of committment. advocates of other platforms on this list need not criticize my choice of mac, again. I have been made aware of your views. Thank you. /jonathan mailto:jhbauer@akula.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 12:53:00-GMT,3084;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA12141 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 06:52:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA09310; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:51:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:43:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA08931; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:42:59 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD8A7.17DF9D00.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Date / Time Printout Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:57:38 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, October 14, 1997 12:01, Peter Mathews [SMTP:pmathews@computerstream.co.uk] wrote: > > To follow on from the thread of 11 October regarding the functionality of > the DateD plug-in from Digital Apps. > I was sat in a meeting with Adobe (Europe) on Friday discussing the very > subject of plug-in developments and legitimacy. > It would appear that the latest Reader Plug-In Privelidge Development > License Agreement from Adobe does indeed outlaw such developments, which > "mimic" functions which could/should be performed by Acrobat Exchange. It sounds a murky area. You can't use "could be performed by Exchange" as an unambigous decider, since Exchange COULD do anything. It's always seemed to me to hinge on what "modifying" a PDF file means. Ok, you can't modify a PDF file. Sure, and it's pretty hard because you couldn't save anything. But is the internal representation of the information read from a file, a "PDF file"? I'd call it a PDF document, and only a file when it's saved. If you're not allowed to modify the internal representation, then Adobe could just lock up the CosNew... Cos...Put Cos...Remove and PD...Page(s) methods and the issue becomes irrelevant. The point is a very interesting one to us. We will have an imposition product soon, and since most people want to impose-then-print, making changes to an open document would allow us to target the users of Reader. Frankly, I've never expected this to be a possibility, and we've only thought about Exchange users. I think many developers would welcome public clarification of this issue. I hasten to add, I've never read the contract, but it sounds as though people who have are not necessarily any the wiser. Aandi Inston "Not advertising Quite Imposing yet" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 13:10:38-GMT,3183;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12480 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:10:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA09916; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:08:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:01:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09559; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:01:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199710141259.NAA10320@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] Date / Time Printout Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 15:02:46 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Obviously, there has been input from the UK-based developers, Dave Cornwell >and David Evans, but no input from the US-based, Europe-based or any other >developers. Have they been informed of this change in licensing policy yet? I haven't news regarding Adobe policy over Reader plug-ins, and it's obvious that Adobe should oblige the use of Exchange over Reader for plug-ins whose actions that could "mimic" PDF changes. This reason is absolutely right even from my point of view. But there are still some arguments that Adobe has never clarified, and this may be the place: 1) Can Reader plug-ins do actions that modify streams of data on the fly? For example intercepting the PostScript flow of data when Reader prints, just to add a date/time printout as wished now, or a doc name/page number in a footer? 2) Can Reader plug-ins read PDF contents and generate a new file from scratch with some of the original elements? I know some API calls are not available in Acroread environment, but one is always free to use standard functions calls. 3) Can Reader plug-ins talk to external applications and pass them data to be modified later? I understand the policy to avoid the use of file saving functions in Reader. BUT functions that modify COS objects are still there. So no one can tell what a Reader plug-in is doing with the PDF code read from the file. Also, I'm able to modify the PDF as ASCII code before it goes into the Reader, and I could get an Exchange-like feature from an external program, bypassing all Adobe limits as the PDF format is free to be used by any custom application. So, please Adobe clarify some of these aspects, with some _real_ example, just to avoid developers to follow great ideas and at the last step we discover that it's against policy agreements. Greetings, Andrea Valle Datanet Srl Pero, MI - Italy --------------------- http://www.datanet.it --------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 14:13:17-GMT,1878;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13713 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:13:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA11107; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:11:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:04:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10746; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:04:21 -0500 X-Mailer: BeyondMail for Windows/SMTP 2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "Marco Squintani" Subject: [PDF] Technical sources needed Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:29:51 -0400 X-BeyondMail-Priority: 1 Message-Id: Conversation-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there somewhere a list of developers or expert in ADK and FDK in Italy ? ... or ... Are you a freelance and a developers understanding Acrobat Plug-Ins and FrameMaker API ? Please, send me every answer at the following address: msquintani@icos.it. Thanke you in advance. """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 15:02:08-GMT,2146;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14732 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:02:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12562; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:00:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:53:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12209; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:53:44 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD8B9.5BFEB5E0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Technical sources needed Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:53:44 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, October 14, 1997 19:30, Marco Squintani [SMTP:msquintani@open1.it] wrote: > > Is there somewhere a list of developers or expert in ADK and FDK in Italy ? ... > or ... Are you a freelance and a developers understanding Acrobat Plug-Ins and > FrameMaker API ? Please, send me every answer at the following address: Adobe send a questionnaire to developers, and so I assume they make it available to people wanting developers. I hope so, that's why I filled it in! And indeed a request for proposal recently fell out of the sky, so it is probably working. It is probably worth contacting Adobe Developer Relations Europe. I don't think the information is on the web. Aandi Inston "Look for a simple interactive Hallowe'en PDF on http://www.quite.com/books to see some of the possibilities for interactive PDFs" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 15:05:59-GMT,2265;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14832 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12689; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:02:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:56:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12343; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:56:21 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:57:16 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Technical sources needed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 As noted in a recent issue of Emerge EXTRA, we have launched a new list -- PDFdev -- intended primarily for Developer-to-developer communication. You can subscribe by sending a message to: pdfdev-request@lists.emrg.com with this text in the message BODY: subscribe rgds~Kurt === >Is there somewhere a list of developers or expert in ADK and FDK in Italy >? ... >or ... Are you a freelance and a developers understanding Acrobat Plug-Ins and >FrameMaker API ? Please, send me every answer at the following address: > > msquintani@icos.it. Thanke you in advance. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ --> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <-- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.emrg.com/ ========================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 17:27:08-GMT,2382;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18536 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:27:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA15837; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:19:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:11:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15335; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:11:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:12:22 GMT X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: PDF List Posting , Acrobat list posting From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDF] Disappearing cursor in Form fields Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I recently encountered a weird behaviour of Acrobat Reader and Exchange 3.0 and Reader 3.0.1. I do have a PDF document with some Text form fields. Some of them are read-only, but some are editable. Two of the fields are multi-line. When I open that document, I do not see any cursor However, I can blindly enter text in the first field of the tab-order, and when leaving that field, the text appears, but only after leaving the field. In the next field, no cursor appears. Sometimes, I can make the cursor appear, but at latest when I reach the first mulit-line field, the cursor disappears again. Maybe, I miss some settings. Right now, I have a /V and a /DV entry, both containing either nothing, or a space. The expected behaviour for the second case is that the field gets selected visibly. Any comment is highly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 17:27:08-GMT,4430;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18537 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:27:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA15834; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:19:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:11:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15311; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:11:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:12:09 GMT X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BCD8A7.17DF9D00.quite@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Date / Time Printout Cc: Aandi Inston Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi (and others), How does that "non-modification" policy affect Forms? Does entering data in a form field modify the PDF document? If so, what would be the use of form fields? Particularly for electronic catalogs (on CD-ROM, but also on-line), this does affect developments. If the situation is really that restrictive, it would be good if a product between the Reader and Exchange would be made available. That product would have the abilities to save internally generated or modified PDFs and FDFs, but not allow the user to modify a document. An "internally generated" document could be an order list, for example, which would be pre-defined, and could only be modified by the software, in a specific way. That product should be free, but a small nominal fee is acceptable. Forcing the user to use Exchange (and of course pay for it) is unacceptable for electronic catalogs. Would there be viable alternatives to the Adobe products? Products which are PDF based, and would allow to set up an electronic catalog and ordering system, and still be platform independent? Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com _________________ >On Tuesday, October 14, 1997 12:01, Peter Mathews >[SMTP:pmathews@computerstream.co.uk] wrote: >> >> To follow on from the thread of 11 October regarding the functionality of >> the DateD plug-in from Digital Apps. >> I was sat in a meeting with Adobe (Europe) on Friday discussing the very >> subject of plug-in developments and legitimacy. >> It would appear that the latest Reader Plug-In Privelidge Development >> License Agreement from Adobe does indeed outlaw such developments, which >> "mimic" functions which could/should be performed by Acrobat Exchange. > >It sounds a murky area. You can't use "could be performed by Exchange" as >an unambigous decider, since Exchange COULD do anything. > >It's always seemed to me to hinge on what "modifying" a PDF file means. > >Ok, you can't modify a PDF file. Sure, and it's pretty hard because you >couldn't save anything. But is the internal representation of the information >read from a file, a "PDF file"? I'd call it a PDF document, and only a file >when it's saved. If you're not allowed to modify the internal representation, >then Adobe could just lock up the CosNew... Cos...Put Cos...Remove and >PD...Page(s) methods and the issue becomes irrelevant. > >The point is a very interesting one to us. We will have an imposition product >soon, and since most people want to impose-then-print, making changes to >an open document would allow us to target the users of Reader. Frankly, >I've never expected this to be a possibility, and we've only thought about >Exchange users. > >I think many developers would welcome public clarification of this issue. >I hasten >to add, I've never read the contract, but it sounds as though people who have >are not necessarily any the wiser. > >Aandi Inston >"Not advertising Quite Imposing yet" > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 17:47:41-GMT,2334;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19080 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:47:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA16565; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:44:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:36:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA16193; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:36:10 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:37:04 -0500 To: pdf-announce@lists.emrg.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF-ANC] Launch of PDFdev list - Acrobat Developers Sender: owner-pdf-announce@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf-announce@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 As announced recently in Emerge EXTRA, we have launched another Acrobat-related discussion list -- called PDFdev -- that is now active. It is designed *primarily* for facilitating communication among Acrobat developers, but the list is open to anyone with an interest in related issues. To join the list, send a message to the _server_ address: pdfdev-request@lists.emrg.com with this text in the BODY of your message: subscribe You should soon receive back the "Welcome" message for PDFdev. You'll then be able to post messages to the _list_ address: pdfdev@lists.emrg.com rgds~Kurt _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ --> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <-- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.emrg.com/ ========================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + + Send questions or feedback to: mailto:web-ed@emrg.com + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 18:12:31-GMT,2487;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19727 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:12:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA17383; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:10:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:03:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA16999; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:03:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Decker Gary E To: "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] Background text printing in Reader 3.01 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:04:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Someone in our company received information from a vendor via e-mail in PDF format. It is structured to look like a fax, cover sheet and all. Certain elements of the cover sheet, including the frame, header, etc., seem to be repeated throughout the document on the subsequent pages, although they apparently should not. However, they briefly display, and then apparently are overwritten by other information on the page. However, you can search for text in the header, and it will be found on each page, even though you can't see it. In Acrobat Reader 3.01, when this document is printed, both the document text and the "ghost header" is printed on pages 2-5, producing a garbled output. In Acrobat Reader 2.1, this does not occur. According to the document's general info, it was created in PageMaker 4.2 using Acrobat PDFWriter 3.0 for Power Macintosh. Any thoughts? Gary E. Decker, Information Services Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation 1550 Oxen Lane N.E. / P.O. Box 411 / Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 / Fax: (316) 364-4154 / gadecke@wcnoc.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 18:14:41-GMT,1805;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19807 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:14:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA17459; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:11:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:05:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17105; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:05:36 -0500 From: bmarsh@seps.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SEPL To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <88256530.00637BF2.00@Notesvr.seps.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:16:26 -0700 Subject: RE: [PDF] Date / Time Printout Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Would there be viable alternatives to the Adobe products? Products which >are PDF based, and would allow to set up an electronic catalog and ordering >system, and still be platform independent? > I think Adobe is shooting itself in the foot on this issue. Recent developments within the HTML world (e.g. XML) will soon, if it hasn't already, make HTML the format of choice for cross-platform forms. Even though we're major Acrobat users, Adobe's insistence on forcing users to pay for an application to fill in and save static information in customer order forms ruled out Acrobat for us. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 19:15:25-GMT,5052;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21448 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:15:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA19284; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:12:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:04:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18933; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:04:51 -0500 X-Sender: tdisilve@mail-333 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710141259.NAA10320@master.datanet.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:05:50 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Ted DiSilvestre Subject: Re: [PDF] Date / Time Printout Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Andrea, My observations are based on the US Adobe Acrobat Reader Integration Key License Agreement available at... ...but the restrictions are identical worldwide. The spirit of the agreement is that the Acrobat Reader provides the ability to view, navigate and print PDF files. Reader plug-ins are permitted to enhance the user's experience in these areas only. >>Obviously, there has been input from the UK-based developers, Dave Cornwell >>and David Evans, but no input from the US-based, Europe-based or any other >>developers. Have they been informed of this change in licensing policy yet? >I haven't news regarding Adobe policy over Reader plug-ins, and it's >obvious that Adobe should oblige the use of Exchange over Reader for >plug-ins whose actions that could "mimic" PDF changes. > >This reason is absolutely right even from my point of view. But there are >still some arguments that Adobe has never clarified, and this may be the >place: > >1) Can Reader plug-ins do actions that modify streams of data on the fly? >For example intercepting the PostScript flow of data when Reader prints, >just to add a date/time printout as wished now, or a doc name/page number >in a footer? Yes, a Reader plug-in can modify a PostScript stream with the intent of immediate printing. The ADDPS example in the 3.01 Plug-ins SDK demonstrates this capability. > >2) Can Reader plug-ins read PDF contents and generate a new file from >scratch with some of the original elements? I know some API calls are not >available in Acroread environment, but one is always free to use standard >functions calls. No, the relevant clause is 2(a)(ii) which begins "Modifies or saves any file...". Whether or not the Acrobat APIs are used, the Reader plug-in may not save this type of file. > >3) Can Reader plug-ins talk to external applications and pass them data >to be modified later? > Related to the previous question, paragraph 2(a) states "Licensee may not use the Acrobat Key to enable any plug-in that performs OR ENABLES ANY SOFTWARE OR HARDWARE TO PERFORM any of the following functions:" (emphasis mine). >I understand the policy to avoid the use of file saving functions in >Reader. >BUT functions that modify COS objects are still there. So no one can tell >what a Reader plug-in is doing with the PDF code read from the file. The emphasis of the License is on files. An example of what you mention above would be a security plug-in where Exchange could be used to encrypt the COS objects and a Reader plug-in could decrypt the objects for viewing. As long as data is not written out from the Reader this would be permissible. > >Also, I'm able to modify the PDF as ASCII code before it goes into the >Reader, and I could get an Exchange-like feature from an external >program, bypassing all Adobe limits as the PDF format is free to be used >by any custom application. > >So, please Adobe clarify some of these aspects, with some _real_ example, >just to avoid developers to follow great ideas and at the last step we >discover that it's against policy agreements. Some other examples of valid Reader plug-ins include customizing the Reader interface (e.g. adding buttons to the toolbar) or viewing third-part custom annotations in the Reader. > >Greetings, > >Andrea Valle >Datanet Srl >Pero, MI - Italy > >--------------------- >http://www.datanet.it >--------------------- --Ted ================================================================= Ted DiSilvestre Manager, Acrobat Developer Support Adobe Systems, Inc. ================================================================= +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 20:43:40-GMT,2998;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23627 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:43:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20719; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:21:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:13:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20266; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:13:00 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 13:13 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Why not a real Ghostscript-based PDF reader? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I can understand that Adobe doesn't want plug-ins adding Exchange-like editing or combining capability to Acrobat Reader, since Reader is free and Exchange is probably a significant revenue generator for them. However, I find forbidding programmers in the Reader SDK license to create plug-ins that add such functionality kind of odious, and I imagine some others do too. Ghostscript already has the ability to display PDF files (through PDF 1.2, with a couple of minor omissions), including the building blocks for jumps to specified pages with specified magnifications. A Reader-like program built around Ghostscript could free programmers from Adobe's restrictions. I haven't looked at Adobe's SDK, but I'm sure its functions could be duplicated easily on top of Ghostscript. Note that Ghostscript can display PDF files, but it doesn't implement any of PDF's interactive capabilities (links, bookmarks, URI-following, movies, ...). One step in the project would be to create an application that added those capabilities, separate from Ghostscript (perhaps by enhancing one or more of GSview, Ghostview, and/or gv). If someone is interested in taking on this project and is willing to make a commitment to following through, I'd be happy to assist them with information or with 'hooks' that would make their job easier. I have to say that my experience with volunteer projects in the past has not been good, and I don't want to waste my time helping someone whose work is going to wind up gathering dust in an incomplete state. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html "Few things are impossible to diligence and skill." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 20:49:38-GMT,1572;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23804 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:49:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA21495; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:46:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:41:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA21231; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:41:57 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:44:24 -0500 To: pdf-announce@lists.emrg.com From: Spectrum Subject: [PDF-ANC] Quote Service Sender: owner-pdf-announce@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf-announce@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Commodity investors can obtain end of day quotes, current margin requirements for futures contracts, obtain a daily news broadcast, and view our first edition of our online newsletter Perspectives in November-All in Adobe Acrobat. Michael Weaver Account Executive Spectrum Commodities spectrum@mcn.net http://www.mcn.net/~spectrum/market.html +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + + Send questions or feedback to: mailto:web-ed@emrg.com + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 21:19:58-GMT,2423;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24524 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:19:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA22200; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:11:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:03:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21885; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:03:58 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD8ED.1405BB60.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Date / Time Printout Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:02:35 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, October 14, 1997 18:12, Max Wyss [SMTP:prodok@prodok.ch] wrote: > > Aandi (and others), > > How does that "non-modification" policy affect Forms? Does entering data in > a form field modify the PDF document? If so, what would be the use of form > fields? You may have noticed that Acrobat Reader doesn't have an export feature for forms. I haven't decided whether this is (a) an oversight (b) because the architecture of the reader prevents writing files (c) a commercial decision to encourage the use of Exchange > That product should be free, but a small nominal fee is acceptable. Forcing > the user to use Exchange (and of course pay for it) is unacceptable for > electronic catalogs. In principle I agree, but every time I see an argument like this I do wonder... the price of Acrobat keeps dropping - have you checked the price for bulk purchases of Exchange? It may be as low as the old Exchange LE product used to be (which was a halfway product) By giving reader away, Adobe have opened an appetite for free software, but they do have an investment to recoup. Aandi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 21:43:33-GMT,2796;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25142 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:43:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA23135; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:40:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:33:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA22809; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:33:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD8F0.3A190480.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Background text printing in Reader 3.01 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:11:29 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, October 14, 1997 19:04, Decker Gary E [SMTP:gadecke@WCNOC.com] wrote: > > Someone in our company received information from a vendor via e-mail in > PDF format. It is structured to look like a fax, cover sheet and all. > Certain elements of the cover sheet, including the frame, header, etc., > seem to be repeated throughout the document on the subsequent pages, > although they apparently should not. However, they briefly display, and > then apparently are overwritten by other information on the page. > However, you can search for text in the header, and it will be found on > each page, even though you can't see it. > > In Acrobat Reader 3.01, when this document is printed, both the document > text and the "ghost header" is printed on pages 2-5, producing a garbled > output. In Acrobat Reader 2.1, this does not occur. According to the > document's general info, it was created in PageMaker 4.2 using Acrobat > PDFWriter 3.0 for Power Macintosh. > > Any thoughts? It's quite legitimate, if wasteful, for a program to draw elements and then erase them by covering them with other things. In Acrobat, this does tend to result in the display effects you've seen. Printing - might be a bug, a printer driver error, or...who knows? What I do know is that Adobe strongly recommend PDFWriter not be used for PageMaker (like QuarkXPress), and aren't going to support the result. Distiller should have been used. Aandi Inston +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 22:02:24-GMT,2479;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25655 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA23894; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:59:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:53:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23513; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:53:16 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD8F0.3C5B5360.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Date / Time Printout Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:22:20 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, October 14, 1997 18:12, Max Wyss [SMTP:prodok@prodok.ch] wrote: > > Aandi (and others), > > How does that "non-modification" policy affect Forms? Does entering data in > a form field modify the PDF document? If so, what would be the use of form > fields? Some more... the contract which I've now read includes: "Licensee may not...enable any plug-in that...Modifies or saves any file... (including without limitation PDF (Portable Document Format), FDF (Forms Data Format), or annotation files) or enables another local or remote application or server to do the same;" This certainly excludes form saving. As you probably know, Reader CAN submit forms to a web server. Since servers can save the file, it implies Adobe are in breach of their own license, but I guess that's allowed. It means you can't do the same, though. I notice it also forbids "Displays a PDF document in the window of an application other than the Adobe Acrobat Reader;" Which means you can't write a new type of web plug-in either. Information from http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/PDFS/reader.pdf, assuming that is the latest contract. Aandi Inston +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 22:05:18-GMT,2340;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25783 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:05:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24010; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:02:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:56:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23679; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:55:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199710142156.PAA22009@sportsurf.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Why not a real Ghostscript-based PDF reader? Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 18:06:22 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Ghostscript already has the ability to display PDF files (through PDF 1.2, >with a couple of minor omissions), including the building blocks for jumps >to specified pages with specified magnifications. Hi, Great call to action from L. Peter Deutsch, ghost@aladdin.com hit the list today. I'm looking for some additional clarifications. The above is a great feat -- but what about 2.1 or is that what you meant? Or, what about the display of Acrobat 3.0 files? Is that in the cards? Is there a down and dirty way to take a 3.0 file and re-compile it or something to a version of a PDF that is ok for Ghostscript? Working on a plug-in thing for anything other than Acrobat 3.0 files might be a big bump in the road of acceptance. ?? -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 22:38:26-GMT,1968;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26792 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:38:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24936; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:35:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:20:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA24466; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:20:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3443F024.202D4229@pagesz.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:20:20 -0400 From: Al Gore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.emrg.com" Subject: [PDF] No space between words in printout of PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a PDF generated by Acrobat 2.1 which looks fine in Exchange.. When I print it out to a pcl printer using Exchange or Reader V3.01 under win 95, there are no spaces between the words on all printers I have tried except for old IBM 4019 (pcl mode with fonts set to download bitmaps). I have changed "shrink to fit" and checked all font handling (outlines, bitmap, graphics). I also compared the output from the 4019 with the others and the fonts look identical (size, character spacing). It just looks like the "space" is not correct. I do know the original document was created with type 1 fonts (Helvetica) and were not encoded in the file. Help...Al +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Oct-1997 23:52:07-GMT,2730;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29506 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:52:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA26555; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:49:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:42:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA26057; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:42:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199710142342.RAA12013@sportsurf.net> Subject: RE: [PDF] Date / Time Printout Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 19:52:23 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >You may have noticed that Acrobat Reader doesn't have an export feature for >forms. I haven't decided whether this is >(a) an oversight >(b) because the architecture of the reader prevents writing files >(c) a commercial decision to encourage the use of Exchange Hi, The Acrobat Reader's lack of an export feature for forms isn't an oversight. The reader can't write to local files, but can interact with a server. Or so I was led to think. Thanks for the update that just hit my mail box. Humm. The oversight I feel is that there are not many good web tools to interface the free-reader with the web servers so that forms can be used by the non-programmers, via the www. The documents, examples and support in this area from Adobe is hurting. The architecture of the reader does alow for more interaction when used in harmony with a web server -- but that isn't happening as the how-to isn't clear. I think Reader could be further exploited if it was made interactive with the server. This is the missing link that would push the level of encouragement downstream (so to speak). It would be great to get to the bottom of this...... Thanks! -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Oct-1997 0:32:49-GMT,2854;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00435 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:32:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA27702; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:27:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:21:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA27413; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:21:31 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 17:22 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com CC: pdf@lists.emrg.com In-reply-to: <199710142156.PAA22009@sportsurf.net> (mrauterkus@sportsurf.net) Subject: Re: [PDF] Why not a real Ghostscript-based PDF reader? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > The above is a great feat -- but what about 2.1 or is that what you > meant? Or, what about the display of Acrobat 3.0 files? Is that in the > cards? Aaargh. You're not the first person to be thoroughly confused by Adobe's number schemes. Here's the cheat sheet: PDF 1.0 = the format processed by Adobe Acrobat 1.x products PDF 1.1 = the format processed by Acrobat 2.x products PDF 1.2 = the format processed by Acrobat 3.0 products PDF versions are forward-compatible, so that (for example) Acrobat 3.0 products can read any version of PDF. Ghostscript currently can read PDF 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2, with a couple of minor omissions from 1.2 (the most serious being Type 0 aka double-byte aka Japanese/Chinese fonts) and one annoying glitch caused by a non-forward-compatible change in the syntax from 1.1 to 1.2 (the handling of the # character in names). It also has a somewhat limited but often usable Distiller work-alike that can produce either PDF 1.1 ("Acrobat 2.x compatible") or PDF 1.2 output. We plan to finish up the 1.2 reader and upgrade the Distiller work-alike in the future, but we don't currently have any dates set for this, since our commercial customers haven't been demanding either one very loudly and they HAVE been much more anxious for other things. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html "Few things are impossible to diligence and skill." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Oct-1997 0:55:39-GMT,3264;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00839 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:55:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA28305; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:45:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:39:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA27959; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:39:08 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 17:22 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" Old-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com CC: pdf@lists.emrg.com In-reply-to: <199710142156.PAA22009@sportsurf.net> (mrauterkus@sportsurf.net) Subject: Re: [PDF] Why not a real Ghostscript-based PDF reader? X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > The above is a great feat -- but what about 2.1 or is that what you > meant? Or, what about the display of Acrobat 3.0 files? Is that in the > cards? Aaargh. You're not the first person to be thoroughly confused by Adobe's number schemes. Here's the cheat sheet: PDF 1.0 = the format processed by Adobe Acrobat 1.x products PDF 1.1 = the format processed by Acrobat 2.x products PDF 1.2 = the format processed by Acrobat 3.0 products PDF versions are forward-compatible, so that (for example) Acrobat 3.0 products can read any version of PDF. Ghostscript currently can read PDF 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2, with a couple of minor omissions from 1.2 (the most serious being Type 0 aka double-byte aka Japanese/Chinese fonts) and one annoying glitch caused by a non-forward-compatible change in the syntax from 1.1 to 1.2 (the handling of the # character in names). It also has a somewhat limited but often usable Distiller work-alike that can produce either PDF 1.1 ("Acrobat 2.x compatible") or PDF 1.2 output. We plan to finish up the 1.2 reader and upgrade the Distiller work-alike in the future, but we don't currently have any dates set for this, since our commercial customers haven't been demanding either one very loudly and they HAVE been much more anxious for other things. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html "Few things are impossible to diligence and skill." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Oct-1997 9:09:20-GMT,10186;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10190 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 03:09:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA02745; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 03:52:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Oct 1997 03:45:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA02451; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 03:45:42 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCD94F.BE1F5720@Rockhse2.docctrl.com> From: Dave Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Background text printing in Reader 3.01 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:03:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCD94F.BE302000" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCD94F.BE302000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is not a bug nor a printer driver error. After extensive = investigation we have ascertained that it is simply not possible to = control the order in which the objects to be printed are layered. What = you saw is a "old technology" approach to adding information to the PDF = file.=20 This requires a white box to be layered on top of the underlying text = and then the new text to be placed on top of it. This displays fine = (ish) as reported. The problem is however that it is simply _not_ = possible to predict how these layers will be rendered to the printed = page. We found that it was entirely random with some customers reporting = the effects on PCL printers and others on Postscript printers. It = appears to be the printer driver which takes the decision to place the = White Box on the paper "first" and then apply the other layers. We encountered this problem this time last year. Needless to say we had = to re-engineer the technology in our products in order to eliminate this = effect. Sounds like who ever it is using technology at least a year old = and in this day and age that is _old_ :~) drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 1997 10:11 PM To: 'pdf@lists.emrg.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Background text printing in Reader 3.01 On Tuesday, October 14, 1997 19:04, Decker Gary E = [SMTP:gadecke@WCNOC.com] wrote: >=20 > Someone in our company received information from a vendor via e-mail = in > PDF format. It is structured to look like a fax, cover sheet and all. > Certain elements of the cover sheet, including the frame, header, = etc., > seem to be repeated throughout the document on the subsequent pages, > although they apparently should not. However, they briefly display, = and > then apparently are overwritten by other information on the page. > However, you can search for text in the header, and it will be found = on > each page, even though you can't see it. >=20 > In Acrobat Reader 3.01, when this document is printed, both the = document > text and the "ghost header" is printed on pages 2-5, producing a = garbled > output. In Acrobat Reader 2.1, this does not occur. According to the > document's general info, it was created in PageMaker 4.2 using Acrobat > PDFWriter 3.0 for Power Macintosh. >=20 > Any thoughts? It's quite legitimate, if wasteful, for a program to draw elements and = then=20 erase them by covering them with other things. In Acrobat, this does = tend to result in the display effects you've seen. Printing - might be a bug, = a printer driver error, or...who knows? What I do know is that Adobe strongly recommend PDFWriter not be used for PageMaker (like QuarkXPress), and aren't going to support the result. Distiller should have been used. 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+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Oct-1997 10:33:15-GMT,2570;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA11542 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 04:33:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA04419; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:30:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:23:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA04048; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:23:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199710151021.LAA14404@master.datanet.it> Subject: RE: [PDF] Background text printing in Reader 3.01 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 12:24:44 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >This requires a white box to be layered on top of the underlying text and >then the new text to be placed on top of it. This displays fine (ish) as >reported. The problem is however that it is simply _not_ possible to >predict how these layers will be rendered to the printed page. We found >that it was entirely random with some customers reporting the effects on >PCL printers and others on Postscript printers. It appears to be the >printer driver which takes the decision to place the White Box on the >paper "first" and then apply the other layers. I've seen similar problems when printing to PCL printers only. The concept of "layer" could not be applied in PostScript files, where all elements are built or painted in a sequential order. The PDF imaging model is pretty equal to PostScript, so I'm quite sure that such a problem couldn't happen if a complete PS path is followed: PostScript driver -> Distiller -> Acrobat viewer. I don't know how a PCL driver or interpreter works. I've only seen some distilled PDF files (with white boxes covering unwanted elements) print badly on PCL printers (even with 2.x viewers) and rightly on PS printers. What I'm sure is that I prefer avoiding the use of PDF-Writer when unconventional elements are on the page... Greetings, Andrea Valle +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Oct-1997 11:47:21-GMT,6925;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA12767 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:47:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA05813; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 06:44:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Oct 1997 06:37:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA05488; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 06:37:34 -0500 Message-Id: <97Oct15.133755gmt+0100.22402-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=2E_V=E9ron?= To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] Reader Plug-in Licensing (was: Date / Time Printout) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:31:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCD96E.B406B660" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCD96E.B406B660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- Max Wyss wrote: (...) Particularly for electronic catalogs (on CD-ROM, but also on-line), this does affect developments. If the situation is really that restrictive, = it would be good if a product between the Reader and Exchange would be made available. That product would have the abilities to save internally generated or modified PDFs and FDFs, but not allow the user to modify a document. An "internally generated" document could be an order list, for example, which would be pre-defined, and could only be modified by the software, in a specific way. That product should be free, but a small nominal fee is acceptable. = Forcing the user to use Exchange (and of course pay for it) is unacceptable for electronic catalogs. (...) ---------- As producers of PDF-based electronic catalogues we are facing the same = problems with the new licensing policy for Reader enabled plug-ins. = With the former license, we were allowed to save files (e.g. order = lists, bookmark lists, but no PDFs). We have invested a lot of manpower = and we have produced several CD-ROM catalogues with a very high number = of copies (up to 100'000).=20 Our large customer base is very happy with our Acrobat solutions. The = new licensing policy forces us to seek alternative solutions (e.g. = HTML!), because the cost per CD-ROM copy would be unacceptable, even = with the suggested bulk license for Acrobat Exchange. Our customers are = losing confidence in the feasibility of their Acrobat based catalogue = projects because they just can not afford them anymore. There could be different solutions to this problem: a) Go back to the former licensing policy. b) Create a product between Reader and Exchange as Max Wyss suggested = above c) Create a license as it was with Acrobat 2.1 Search for CD-ROM with a = license per single CD-ROM title. Based on our customers reactions, we strongly suggest that Adobe = reconsiders the new licensing policy. 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I've heard these features are available in Acrobat 3.0 and wanted to see them in operation or find info on the matter. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Oct-1997 14:50:21-GMT,2491;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16513 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:50:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10324; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:34:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:27:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10012; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:27:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3444D428.F6BD0ED3@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:33:17 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] AcroWeb References: <9710151415.AA2560@notes.mdor.state.mn.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David, if you go into the DC site and check out the solution PDF. That can act as a front page to htmls as the PDF has extensive links into the web. HTH Bob Moran David Stein wrote: > Does any one have any good sources for Info or examples on the Web that use > Acrobat PDF documents as the front end screen for Web based applications? I've > heard these features are available in Acrobat 3.0 and wanted to see them in > operation or find info on the matter. > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Voice 203-452-1116 Fax 203-452-0416 e-mail remoran@kiwi.futuris.net e-mail remoran@dconstructs.com Web Site: ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:35:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA16808; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:31:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:23:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA16550; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:23:30 -0500 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <85256531.00641BF2.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:19:08 -0400 Subject: [PDF] PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a few questions to ask people on the list: 1) Is there a way to figure out if a PDF file is an optimized PDF file automatically? Can I write a program to scan through many PDF files to figure out which ones have not been optimized. 2) So far, I know that only Acrobat Exchange can produce optimized PDF files by using the "Save As..." option. Is it possible to optimize a PDF file when converting it from a PostScript file using the Distiller? 3) Does anyone have or know an Acrobat Exchange plug-in that can collapse or expand all bookmarks at one? Thanks, Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Oct-1997 19:04:07-GMT,1858;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02686 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:04:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA17763; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:59:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:52:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17344; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:52:42 -0500 Message-ID: <019589D7ECC7D011A4170060976EA49925F4CC@projhope.org> From: "King, Kathy" To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] FW: Creating PDFs from VP5... Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:55:34 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > ---------- > From: King, Kathy > Sent: 15 October, 1997 2:51 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.emrg.com' > Subject: Creating PDFs from VP5... > > and getting them to print. > > Has anyone successfully created PDF from VP5? I have been archiving > our publication and find that we can't print these files to our Unity > LaserMaster postscript printer. It just times out no matter what the > settings are. I can print to our nonpostscript printers but lines end > up with rounded endges which is unacceptable. Does anyone have advice? > Adobe basically said, "that's wierd" > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Oct-1997 19:20:56-GMT,2670;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03159 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:20:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17842; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:01:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:55:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17466; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:55:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:54:53 -0400 From: Theresa Clay Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF files To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <85256531.00679A97.00@hub.ap.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rucksapol, I have an answer to your first question. The plug-in called "Check Up" made by Enfocus will "scan" a PDF and return user definable information in the form of a report. One of these pieces of information is whether or not a PDF is optimized. The demo version is available for Mac OS and Win 95 at their website: http://www.emrg.com/ theresa From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com on 10/15/97 06:19 PM GMT Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Theresa Clay/TheAP) Subject: [PDF] PDF files I have a few questions to ask people on the list: 1) Is there a way to figure out if a PDF file is an optimized PDF file automatically? Can I write a program to scan through many PDF files to figure out which ones have not been optimized. 2) So far, I know that only Acrobat Exchange can produce optimized PDF files by using the "Save As..." option. Is it possible to optimize a PDF file when converting it from a PostScript file using the Distiller? 3) Does anyone have or know an Acrobat Exchange plug-in that can collapse or expand all bookmarks at one? Thanks, Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Oct-1997 19:27:05-GMT,2092;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03342 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:27:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18468; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:23:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:14:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18128; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:14:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:15:30 -0700 From: "Rob L. Shepherd" Subject: [PDF] Automating PDF pagination? X-Sender: robs@spie.org To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <3.0.3.32.19971015121530.0096ae60@spie.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, We are looking at work flow scenarios and are wondering if it possible to automate the following: Our work flow requires that we have several PDFs that need to have page numbers that match the page numbers in the original printed volume. One PDF might start on page 15 and end on page 19, and the next PDF would start on page 20 and end on page 27, and so on. We can create a data file that contains the starting page numbers for each PDF. Is there a way to merge the data with the PDF to automate the page numbering requirements here? Does anyone know of an application that would provide these features? Compose will allow batch pagination, but not on the fly from a data source. Any thoughts will be helpful. Thanks in advance! Regards, Rob +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Oct-1997 12:42:48-GMT,7162;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24248 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA05058; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:39:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:26:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04307; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:26:34 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDA37.C3132700@Rockhse2.docctrl.com> From: Dave Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automating PDF pagination? Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:16:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCDA37.C3132700" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCDA37.C3132700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our PDFfusion product will enable you to automate this process. More details from our WEB site. www.docctrl.com . Full evaluation software is available. Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: Rob L. Shepherd [SMTP:robs@MOM.SPIE.ORG] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 1997 8:16 PM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Automating PDF pagination? Hello, We are looking at work flow scenarios and are wondering if it possible to automate the following: Our work flow requires that we have several PDFs that need to have page numbers that match the page numbers in the original printed volume. One PDF might start on page 15 and end on page 19, and the next PDF would start on page 20 and end on page 27, and so on. We can create a data file that contains the starting page numbers for each PDF. Is there a way to merge the data with the PDF to automate the page numbering requirements here? Does anyone know of an application that would provide these features? Compose will allow batch pagination, but not on the fly from a data source. Any thoughts will be helpful. Thanks in advance! 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To: pdf-l@emrg.com Message-id: <9709168770.AA877018954@FINSMTP1.FIN.GOV.BC.CA> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:55:34 -0400 >From: "King, Kathy" >Subject: [PDF] FW: Creating PDFs from VP5... > > and getting them to print. > > Has anyone successfully created PDF from VP5? I have been archiving > our publication and find that we can't print these files to our Unity > LaserMaster postscript printer. It just times out no matter what the > settings are. I can print to our nonpostscript printers but lines end > up with rounded endges which is unacceptable. Does anyone have advice? > Adobe basically said, "that's wierd" > If by VP5 you mean Ventura Publisher 5, then yes -- I have been doing that with little problem for quite some time. Are you using PDFWriter, or going the Distiller route? ____________________________________________________________ Don Wilkes, Type & Graphics : Location: BC Stats : 553 Superior Street PO Box 9410 Stn Prov Govt : Victoria, B.C. Victoria, BC Canada V8W 9V1 :_____________________ Tel: (250) 356-8854 Fax: (250) 387-0329 E-Mail: don_p_wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca Visit BC Stats on the Web at http://www.bcstats.gov.bc.ca ____________________________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Oct-1997 19:17:17-GMT,2228;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04033 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:17:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13675; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:16:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:08:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13322; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:08:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 97 15:06:24 EST From: "Robert J. Wolfe" Message-Id: <9709168770.AA877039710@smtpgate.bna.com> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 (I'm reposting this in hopes of getting a response the second time around.) I'm creating a system of PDF help files which uses relative paths for each inter-document link. I created the postscript documents in FrameMaker 5 (Unix) and used Distiller to create the PDFs. When I use this system in Reader 3.0, all the links work properly. However, after I follow eighty-or-so links I eventually get an error and am unable to open any more links. (The error message: "There was an error opening this document. File name too long.") When I check "Document Info" for any document, I notice that the filename includes the entire path I've traversed before opening the current file. What can I do to prevent or resolve this when specifying the relative path names? ANY related info would be helpful. Thanks. Robert Wolfe Sr. Technical Writer Publishing System Applications Development The Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. Washington, DC +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Oct-1997 19:52:47-GMT,3380;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05004 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:52:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14589; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:51:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:43:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14183; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:43:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:44:39 -0600 From: "Dorian J. Cougias" Message-ID: To: "Pdf" Subject: [PDF] Worldwide Satellite Communications X-Mailer: eMerge 1.1.1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I need your help. I'm conducting an online web-based survey that I'd like your involvement in. Its about what we in the computer field think about cell phones becoming satellite phones, and global connectivity. Its not long, and its aimed at folks who are interested in, or are supporting, people who travel and want to stay connected. Its about us who support travelers. The study is being conducted on line, and by participating, you'll also be able to directly see the results there as well. Feel free to continue to drop by and see how it is shaping up. Who's it for? We aren't being paid for this. We are doing it for research. We are going to share our information with Iridium and anyone else who is asking (you can have it too). Will we sell the data? No. We will give it away to anyone who wants to look at it on the Internet. All you have to do is hit print or save and you have the results. Why should you participate? Because if you are like me, an IS manager, you probably think that worldwide communications either stinks or is almost impossible. There is a new player coming into the market and after talking with them a while, I think we should send them a message about what we believe. If we don't we are at fault if they build something we don't like. If they build something we don't feel will work, well then that's silly on their part. Is it anonymous? Yep. We aren't even going to ask for your name. No cookie tracking, no nothing. No follow up spam trying to sell you something. It's not about that. Can you refer others? Yes, especially if you live overseas. I hate it when American companies try to foist their beliefs on everyone in the world. I'm looking to get at least a couple of hundred responses within the next couple of days. -- If you are wondering, I have your name from either a business card, or one of the bizillion lists I belong to. No, you won't get further mail about this, so don't worry about asking to be taken off of a list. Thanks. The URL for entering information is:http://survey.fallon.com The URL for looking at the results is:http://survey.fallon.com/results.html --- Thanks for the support, I really appreciate it. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Oct-1997 20:40:16-GMT,2045;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06122 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:40:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16013; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:36:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:26:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15597; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:26:51 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:27:50 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: SPAM: [PDF] unannounced survey Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ***SPAM ALERT*** >We aren't even going to ask for your name. No cookie >tracking, no nothing. No follow up spam trying to sell you something. The sender of this off-topic, non-PDF-related survey has been removed from the PDF list. If you intend to take part, be sure *not* to post any further responses related to this surbey to *all* PDF subscribers. In the past, we have allowed select surveys to be posted *only* if they were relevant to the topic of the list and were not of a commercial nature. If you believe you have such a survey, please contact the listowners in advance. If you have a commercially oriented, Acrobat-related survey, PDF-Announce is the appropriate list on which to post it. Be sure to solicit direct, private responses, not replies to the list. tks~Kurt +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Oct-1997 21:03:28-GMT,3316;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06738 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:03:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA18517; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:55:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:47:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17859; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:47:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199710162053.QAA23867@netgwy.bp.com> From: "Coulter,Ron,R" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, "Robert J. Wolfe" Subject: RE: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:42:00 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'll bite with two thoughts: 1. Are you opening cross-document links in the same window (See the setting under File>Preferences>General)? If not--i.e., if you are opening 80 different windows--you may be running out of memory. 2. Is reader running standalone or as a plug-in to a browser? There are some documented problems running Reader as a plug-in (at least with MSIE). That's the best I can come up with. I don't really understand your statement that "the filename includes the entire path I've traversed before opening the current file." ron ---------- From: Robert J. Wolfe To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames Date: Thursday, October 16, 1997 4:06PM (I'm reposting this in hopes of getting a response the second time around.) I'm creating a system of PDF help files which uses relative paths for each inter-document link. I created the postscript documents in FrameMaker 5 (Unix) and used Distiller to create the PDFs. When I use this system in Reader 3.0, all the links work properly. However, after I follow eighty-or-so links I eventually get an error and am unable to open any more links. (The error message: "There was an error opening this document. File name too long.") When I check "Document Info" for any document, I notice that the filename includes the entire path I've traversed before opening the current file. What can I do to prevent or resolve this when specifying the relative path names? ANY related info would be helpful. Thanks. Robert Wolfe Sr. Technical Writer Publishing System Applications Development The Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. Washington, DC +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Oct-1997 21:14:04-GMT,3599;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07063 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:14:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA19202; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:10:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:01:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18734; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:01:47 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <88256532.00722E07.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:56:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We're having problems related to this, too. It was brought to our attention that the Compose plug-in creates absolute paths and we thought that might be our problem, until we realized that we weren't having problems with the bookmarks created with Compose, just the bookmarks we created manually. So, we're back to square one trying to figure this out, and I'd appreciate hearing more about absolute and relative paths from anyone with experience resolving these problems. Here's the scenario: Our documents reside in one folder on the network, the catalog and index are created in the same folder on the network. The links work. When we move the folder to CD, it appears that some of the links take on a full path, and no longer work. Sue Gililland Doc Mgmt & Publishing NeXstar Pharmaceuticals, Inc. rjwolfe@bna.com on 10/16/97 01:06:24 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames (I'm reposting this in hopes of getting a response the second time around.) I'm creating a system of PDF help files which uses relative paths for each inter-document link. I created the postscript documents in FrameMaker 5 (Unix) and used Distiller to create the PDFs. When I use this system in Reader 3.0, all the links work properly. However, after I follow eighty-or-so links I eventually get an error and am unable to open any more links. (The error message: "There was an error opening this document. File name too long.") When I check "Document Info" for any document, I notice that the filename includes the entire path I've traversed before opening the current file. What can I do to prevent or resolve this when specifying the relative path names? ANY related info would be helpful. Thanks. Robert Wolfe Sr. Technical Writer Publishing System Applications Development The Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. Washington, DC +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Oct-1997 22:46:54-GMT,2027;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09315 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:46:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20858; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:41:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:30:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA20482; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:30:58 -0500 From: bmarsh@seps.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SEPL To: pdf-l@emrg.com Message-ID: <88256532.007C699F.00@Notesvr.seps.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:44:49 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Search bug? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Almost a year ago, someone asked about a bug in Acrobat Reader 2.1: >Problem: When I search using ONE PARTICULAR term in the subject field on >a Macintosh, I will get the error "An internal error has occurred. >Can't retrieve the results. Sorry." I believe that other terms will >also produce the error. I know for sure that some do not. > >This problem is NOT happening on the Windows 95 platform when I search >for the SAME TERM in the Subject field. This strikes me as odd. We just experienced a similar condition while searching for certain terms in the body (i.e. not in fields) of indexed documents using Reader 3.0 -- on the Mac and not on Windows 95. Has anyone else experienced this same problem? I couldn't find any response from a subscriber or from Adobe on this issue since the above post on 11/4/96! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Oct-1997 23:16:21-GMT,1760;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09935 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:16:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA21666; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:12:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:04:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21340; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:04:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199710162305.RAA09184@sportsurf.net> Subject: RE: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames Date: Thu, 16 Oct 97 19:15:26 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Interesting problems with trying to navigate among a great set of links. Question: Are you using the whole base URLs set-up in these documents? Does that help? -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 7:29:56-GMT,2424;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27291 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:29:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA27663; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 02:25:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 02:17:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA27309; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 02:17:02 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <41256532.0055EC43.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:48:27 +0100 Subject: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA27305 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We got a problem concering Adobe?s Acrobat Distiller 3.0 for Windows95 (german version) We use Distiller with PDFmark syntax. Since we upgraded to version 3.0 we recognized that mutated vowels, like Ä, ä (ae), Ö, ö(oe), Ü and ü (ue), dissapear and are replaced by spaces - when used as first letter in bookmark titles and - in the documentinformation completly For example is a PDFmark operator like [/Count 0 /Page 2 /View [ /XYZ 71 216 null ] /Title (Änderungshistorie) /OUT pdfmark is converted to " nderungshistorie" And the operator [ /Title (Beschreibung Sonderlösung) ... /DOCINFO pdfmark went into "Title: Beschreibung Sonderl sungen". Even more funny is, that even without using the pdfmark syntax converting a document in distiller 3.0 in the line "Converted with" from the DocumentInfo where the right string would be "Acrobat Distiller 3.0 für Windows" the mutated Vowel "ü" (ue) is missing. I have to remark, that we still got neither problems when using Distiller version 2.1. I hope you can help us. Greetings, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 8:54:45-GMT,2078;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA28960 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 02:54:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA28731; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 03:31:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 03:24:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA28431; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 03:24:19 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <41256532.005480C9.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:35:03 +0100 Subject: [PDF] Installation structures for acrobat exchange Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello! We use the Acrobat 3.0 for win95 (german version) at many places in our company. To save harddisk space and ease administration we put the program files on a novell server and only change registry entries and put local ini-files on our users computer. The disadvantage is: I can't use the setup program that adobe delivers. At the moment i try to do this: Backup Registry and filestructure, then install the package on my local drive and find out which files have been changed or added and which registry entries habe been made by the setup program. This puzzle-game is non of my favourites. Recently found out, that in adobe's techdoc 731010 the gave an overview which files have been put where. Now I am wondering if i can get anything similar for the Exchange package. Greetings, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 13:31:45-GMT,2883;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03887 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 07:31:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA32407; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:29:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:18:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA31925; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:18:21 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:19:08 -0400 From: Chris McMahon To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Search bug? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I experienced this exact problem last year. I found out that the first 64 characters in the document information fields of each file must be unique. My problem occurred because the first 64 characters of the document information fields of several files were not unique (same title - Part 1, Part 2, Part 3). I modified the offending fields slightly to make them unique, reran Catalog, and search worked perfect on all platforms including the MAC. Hope this helps! - Chris >>> 10/16/97 06:44pm >>> Almost a year ago, someone asked about a bug in Acrobat Reader 2.1: >Problem: When I search using ONE PARTICULAR term in the subject field on >a Macintosh, I will get the error "An internal error has occurred. >Can't retrieve the results. Sorry." I believe that other terms will >also produce the error. I know for sure that some do not. > >This problem is NOT happening on the Windows 95 platform when I search >for the SAME TERM in the Subject field. This strikes me as odd. We just experienced a similar condition while searching for certain terms in the body (i.e. not in fields) of indexed documents using Reader 3.0 -- on the Mac and not on Windows 95. Has anyone else experienced this same problem? I couldn't find any response from a subscriber or from Adobe on this issue since the above post on 11/4/96! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 13:31:45-GMT,4185;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03886 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 07:31:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA32408; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:29:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:21:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA32032; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:21:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 97 09:20:42 EST From: "Robert J. Wolfe" Message-Id: <9709178771.AA877105298@smtpgate.bna.com> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ron -- Thanks for your thoughts. See my responses below. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames Author: "Coulter,Ron,R" at INTERNET Date: 10/16/97 4:50 PM I'll bite with two thoughts: 1. Are you opening cross-document links in the same window (See the setting under File>Preferences>General)? If not--i.e., if you are opening 80 different windows--you may be running out of memory. Yes. I am opening cross-document links in the same window. 2. Is reader running standalone or as a plug-in to a browser? There are some documented problems running Reader as a plug-in (at least with MSIE). Reader is running standalone; the links work fine except for the eventual error. When I use the plug-in (Netscape Navigator), the cross-document links do not work at all. That's the best I can come up with. I don't really understand your statement that "the filename includes the entire path I've traversed before opening the current file." An example: The name of the file currently in view is /devl/src/docs/atext/commands.pdf. When I link to this document (after following a series of links from the main menu), the "document info" shows the filename as /devl/src/docs/faids/contents.pdf/../qsys/../faids/../pub/ ../faids/index.pdf/../atext/commands.pdf ron ---------- From: Robert J. Wolfe To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames Date: Thursday, October 16, 1997 4:06PM (I'm reposting this in hopes of getting a response the second time around.) I'm creating a system of PDF help files which uses relative paths for each inter-document link. I created the postscript documents in FrameMaker 5 (Unix) and used Distiller to create the PDFs. When I use this system in Reader 3.0, all the links work properly. However, after I follow eighty-or-so links I eventually get an error and am unable to open any more links. (The error message: "There was an error opening this document. File name too long.") When I check "Document Info" for any document, I notice that the filename includes the entire path I've traversed before opening the current file. What can I do to prevent or resolve this when specifying the relative path names? ANY related info would be helpful. Thanks. Robert Wolfe Sr. Technical Writer Publishing System Applications Development The Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. Washington, DC +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 14:02:42-GMT,1736;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04499 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:02:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA00678; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:00:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:54:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA00327; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:54:07 -0500 Message-ID: <34476E8B.7860@document-solutions.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 06:56:27 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Intergrated PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Folks: I'm interested in visual basic database / PDF intergrations. Can someone direct me (off or on-line) to a stand-alone, distributable application intergrating PDF files in a database? Much appreciated. -- Regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 (510) 986-0250 -- Fax: (510) 986-0636 E-mail: duffj@document-solutions.com Web: www.document-solutions.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 15:16:44-GMT,3443;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06180 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:16:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA02158; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:14:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:06:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01729; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:06:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:06:26 GMT X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <41256532.0055EC43.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? Cc: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA01726 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Laura, there is a problem with Distiller 3 which apparently does no longer handle the high-ASCII characters properly. Although they say that the PDFEncoding is similar to the Windows character encoding, there might be a difference. You might try to use the octal code for these characters. The octal code consists of a backslash and the three-character code. According to Thomas Merz' (mailto: tm@muc.de) book "Mit Acrobat ins World Wide Web" you could use the following codes: ä (ae) \344, ö (oe) \366, ü (ue) \374, Ä (Ae) \304, Ö (Oe) \326, Ü (Ue) \334 So, your title line would be /Title (\304nderungshistorie) Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com _______________ >We got a problem concering Adobe?s Acrobat Distiller 3.0 for Windows95 >(german version) > >We use Distiller with PDFmark syntax. Since we upgraded to version 3.0 we >recognized that mutated vowels, like Ä, ä (ae), Ö, ö(oe), Ü and ü (ue), >dissapear and are replaced by spaces >- when used as first letter in bookmark titles and >- in the documentinformation completly > >For example is a PDFmark operator like > >[/Count 0 >/Page 2 >/View [ /XYZ 71 216 null ] >/Title (Änderungshistorie) >/OUT pdfmark > >is converted to " nderungshistorie" > >And the operator > >[ /Title (Beschreibung Sonderlösung) >... >/DOCINFO pdfmark > >went into "Title: Beschreibung Sonderl sungen". > >Even more funny is, that even without using the pdfmark syntax converting a >document in distiller 3.0 in the line "Converted with" from the >DocumentInfo where the right string would be "Acrobat Distiller 3.0 für >Windows" the mutated Vowel "ü" (ue) is missing. > >I have to remark, that we still got neither problems when using Distiller >version 2.1. > >I hope you can help us. > >Greetings, Laura Dietz >(Mannesmann Arcor) > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 18:50:11-GMT,4138;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23794 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:50:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA06327; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:46:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:39:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05848; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:39:10 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <88256533.0065ABC6.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:33:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We recently noticed a problem similar to this. We have a product name with a captial, bolded letter within it. (e.g., abcXdef). In the bookmarks, this capital, bolded letter was missing. We thought it was a problem associated with the plug-in Compose which we used to create the bookmarks - think it could have been distiller all along? Sue Sgililland@nexstar.com prodok@prodok.ch on 10/17/97 08:06:26 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? Laura, there is a problem with Distiller 3 which apparently does no longer handle the high-ASCII characters properly. Although they say that the PDFEncoding is similar to the Windows character encoding, there might be a difference. You might try to use the octal code for these characters. The octal code consists of a backslash and the three-character code. According to Thomas Merz' (mailto: tm@muc.de) book "Mit Acrobat ins World Wide Web" you could use the following codes: ? (ae) \344, ? (oe) \366, ? (ue) \374, ? (Ae) \304, ? (Oe) \326, ? (Ue) \334 So, your title line would be /Title (\304nderungshistorie) Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com _______________ >We got a problem concering Adobe?s Acrobat Distiller 3.0 for Windows95 >(german version) > >We use Distiller with PDFmark syntax. Since we upgraded to version 3.0 we >recognized that mutated vowels, like ?, ? (ae), ?, ?(oe), ? and ? (ue), >dissapear and are replaced by spaces >- when used as first letter in bookmark titles and >- in the documentinformation completly > >For example is a PDFmark operator like > >[/Count 0 >/Page 2 >/View [ /XYZ 71 216 null ] >/Title (?nderungshistorie) >/OUT pdfmark > >is converted to " nderungshistorie" > >And the operator > >[ /Title (Beschreibung Sonderl?sung) >... >/DOCINFO pdfmark > >went into "Title: Beschreibung Sonderl sungen". > >Even more funny is, that even without using the pdfmark syntax converting a >document in distiller 3.0 in the line "Converted with" from the >DocumentInfo where the right string would be "Acrobat Distiller 3.0 f?r >Windows" the mutated Vowel "?" (ue) is missing. > >I have to remark, that we still got neither problems when using Distiller >version 2.1. > >I hope you can help us. > >Greetings, Laura Dietz >(Mannesmann Arcor) > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 19:55:23-GMT,1726;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25710 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:55:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA08077; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:52:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:44:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07733; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:43:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3447C00C.4AD33843@lucent.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:44:12 -0400 From: "D4169/Emily R. Jorgenson/X2515/D/B" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat training Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would like to bring some Acrobat training into my organization. I've done a lot of research on the authorized training vendors from the Adobe web page, but there is a wide range of course length and cost. Has anyone taken US-based Acrobat training they would recommend or not recommend? Thanks, Emily Jorgenson Senior Technical Documentation Specialist Lucent Technologies erjorgenson@lucent.com (614) 860-2515 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 20:10:17-GMT,1808;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26176 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:10:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA08796; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:08:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:02:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA08396; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:02:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199710172002.OAA29362@sportsurf.net> Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames Date: Fri, 17 Oct 97 16:12:15 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > An example: The name of the file currently in view is > /devl/src/docs/atext/commands.pdf. When I link to this document > (after following a series of links from the main menu), the > "document info" shows the filename as > /devl/src/docs/faids/contents.pdf/../qsys/../faids/../pub/ > ../faids/index.pdf/../atext/commands.pdf Hi, Have you taken this to Adobe Acrobat Tech Support and Quality Assurance folks? What have they said? Mark +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 20:10:17-GMT,2912;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26177 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:10:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA08781; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:07:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:01:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA08362; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:01:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199710172002.OAA29298@sportsurf.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF Links Date: Fri, 17 Oct 97 16:11:59 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Subject: PDF Links >I'm a novice at this stuff, could you tell me what you mean by "whole base >URL"? > >Thanks, Sue >Sgililland@nexstar.com Hi Sue and others: When Acrobat 3.0 came out -- for the life of me, I couldn't figure out what the heck was meant by a Base URL. A Base URL is something that can be put into the document as you author in Acrobat Exchange. As you author, you have the Base URL thing to worry about -- and then you have the actual link to create to get from one document to the other. Then you have the whole server side things as well for the collection's deployement. -- Or it can be on a CD. Eeeks! So, here is a crude example / discovery page for anyone to peek at. There are 4 documents, chapter 1 and chapter 2 - in .html and .PDF within the same directory. http://www.sportsurf.net/PDFS/BASETEST http://www.sportsurf.net/cgi-bin/byteserver.pl/PDFS/BASETEST/CHAPTER2.PDF Those of you on the list who are bonking out after clicking on 80 or so relative URL on a CD-ROM -- and the navigation fails you -- I'm wondering if they are using BASE URLs throughout within their documents and what the links are built with (as in code examples). They came upon an interesting problem and didn't mention their use or lack of use of Base URLs and perhaps that was a factor. ???? -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 20:33:54-GMT,2867;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26720 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:33:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA09501; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:30:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:24:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09186; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:24:30 -0500 X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: tm@muc.de (Thomas Merz) Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? Message-Id: <97Oct17.222522met_dst.86023-1@colin.muc.de> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:25:19 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA09183 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Laura, >there is a problem with Distiller 3 which apparently does no longer handle >the high-ASCII characters properly. Although they say that the PDFEncoding >is similar to the Windows character encoding, there might be a difference. >You might try to use the octal code for these characters. The octal code >consists of a backslash and the three-character code. > >According to Thomas Merz' (mailto: tm@muc.de) book "Mit Acrobat ins World >Wide Web" you could use the following codes: > ä (ae) \344, ö (oe) \366, ü (ue) \374, Ä (Ae) \304, Ö (Oe) \326, Ü (Ue) \334 >So, your title line would be > > /Title (\304nderungshistorie) > >Hope, this can help. > Unfortunately it doesn't. There are definitely some "Umlaut-related" bugs in Distiller 3.0 and 3.01. The original post already quoted an example for default document info entries which are also missing an umlaut character. Note that not all umlauts are missing -- the bugs mostly occurs with umlauts at the beginning of bookmark text (but not exclusively there). Although typing special characters directly into pdfmarks (instead of using octal codes and PDFDocEncoding) is a common source of error, the specific problem here is a software bug in Distiller. I am not aware of any solution for this problem. Thomas Merz {(pstack exec quit) = flush }| Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de pstack exec quit | Check out the free Ghostscript manual at -----------------------------+ http://www.muc.de/~tm/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 21:54:52-GMT,2303;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28834 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:54:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA11075; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 16:51:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 16:44:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA10733; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 16:44:47 -0500 From: bmarsh@seps.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SEPL To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <88256533.007817DA.00@Notesvr.seps.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:58:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Search bug? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Got this response from "Chris" and wasn't sure if it was visible to everyone on the list (Notes turns it into an attachment that must be "Viewed".) My thanks to Chris for the help. I think it explains our problem, though the workaround (in the general case) is ugly. >I experienced this exact problem last year. > >I found out that the first 64 characters in the document information fields of >each file must be unique. > >My problem occurred because the first 64 characters of the document >information fields of several files were not unique (same title - Part 1, Part 2, >Part 3). I modified the offending fields slightly to make them unique, reran >Catalog, and search worked perfect on all platforms including the MAC. > > > >>We just experienced a similar condition while searching for certain terms >>in the body (i.e. not in fields) of indexed documents using Reader 3.0 -- >>on the Mac and not on Windows 95. Has anyone else experienced this >>same problem? I couldn't find any response from a subscriber or from Adobe on >>this issue since the above post on 11/4/96! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Oct-1997 22:35:32-GMT,2947;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29949 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 16:35:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA12241; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:33:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:27:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11898; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:27:04 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <88256533.007A5B41.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:21:44 -0700 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have asked them about the link problem. The response was basically: Does it work on your workstation? If it does, then, as far as we're concerned, it works. We do not support anything once the files are moved from the workstation. Incidentally, the tech support person I spoke with stated that he had never heard from anyone who had so many files that they had to use multiple CDs! I asked for a call from a more senior technical person, who clarified their position somewhat: he commented that so many people are using Exchange and PDF to do so many different things, that it was impossible for them to support it once it moved beyond the workstation. sgililland@nexstar.com mrauterkus@sportsurf.net on 10/17/97 09:12:15 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Relative links and PDF filenames > An example: The name of the file currently in view is > /devl/src/docs/atext/commands.pdf. When I link to this document > (after following a series of links from the main menu), the > "document info" shows the filename as > /devl/src/docs/faids/contents.pdf/../qsys/../faids/../pub/ > ../faids/index.pdf/../atext/commands.pdf Hi, Have you taken this to Adobe Acrobat Tech Support and Quality Assurance folks? What have they said? Mark +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Oct-1997 4:55:43-GMT,1879;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07195 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:55:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA17658; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 23:53:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 23:45:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA17329; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 23:45:54 -0500 X-Sender: sjledet@mail.ledet.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3447C00C.4AD33843@lucent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 00:16:10 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Sterling Ledet Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat training Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I would like to bring some Acrobat training into my organization. >I've done a lot of research on the authorized training vendors >from the Adobe web page, but there is a wide range of course >length and cost. Has anyone taken US-based Acrobat training >they would recommend or not recommend? What type of training are you looking for? End-user or developer? Exchange, Capture, indexing etc? I'd really like to hear what you uncover so please do share it with the list. Sterling Ledet & Associates ph.404-325-3338 2176 Heritage Drive Atlanta, GA 30345 http://www.ledet.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Oct-1997 17:23:32-GMT,3519;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19507 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:23:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA26927; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:21:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:12:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA26562; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:12:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199710181713.LAA16927@sportsurf.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Why not a real Ghostscript-based PDF reader? Date: Sat, 18 Oct 97 13:23:14 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi PDFers, IMHO, this offer from L. Peter Deutsch, ghost@aladdin.com, reposted below, is a huge deal. I don't want to drop this thread. (Now that I know what PDF 1.2 is nothing do do with Acrobat version #s.) >Ghostscript already has the ability to display PDF files (through PDF 1.2, >with a couple of minor omissions), including the building blocks for jumps >to specified pages with specified magnifications. A Reader-like program >built around Ghostscript could free programmers from Adobe's restrictions. >I haven't looked at Adobe's SDK, but I'm sure its functions could be >duplicated easily on top of Ghostscript. > >Note that Ghostscript can display PDF files, but it doesn't implement any of >PDF's interactive capabilities (links, bookmarks, URI-following, movies, >...). One step in the project would be to create an application that added >those capabilities, separate from Ghostscript (perhaps by enhancing one or >more of GSview, Ghostview, and/or gv). > >If someone is interested in taking on this project and is willing to make a >commitment to following through, I'd be happy to assist them with >information or with 'hooks' that would make their job easier. I have to say >that my experience with volunteer projects in the past has not been good, >and I don't want to waste my time helping someone whose work is going to >wind up gathering dust in an incomplete state. What are the top priorities? I'd like to see an end-user use a "FREE READER" and fill-out a FORM that can be saved to disk. Then we can work on "re-loading" the form data for later completion. And, then we can work on transmission of the FORM data to a server/drop box/ or even as an email attachement. I think that this is a big sticking point for the Acrobat suite, as per Adobe's license decisions. What do you all think about this? Where is the holy grail in these issues really? -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Oct-1997 17:53:19-GMT,1821;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20035 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:53:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA27712; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:51:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:45:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA27381; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:45:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3448F320.46B6@i2000.es> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:34:24 +0100 From: Alvaro de la Hera Martínez Organization: Interlinea 2000, S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Tool to extract text from a PDF file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello friends, Does anyone know if there is a programa, which runs in Linux, that can extract the text from a PDF file ? Thanks in advanced. -- A H | A H | Interlinea 2000, S.A. AAAAHHHHMMMM | Kaskotegi 4, bajo A A M M | 20.305 Irun (Spain) AAAA M | Telephone: 34-43-619101 | Fax: 34-43-618159 Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Oct-1997 18:56:29-GMT,1929;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21114 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:56:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA28788; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:54:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:45:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA28438; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:45:44 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 97 11:46 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com In-reply-to: <3448F320.46B6@i2000.es> (alvaro@i2000.es) Subject: Re: [PDF] Tool to extract text from a PDF file Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Does anyone know if there is a programa, which runs in Linux, that can > extract the text from a PDF file ? Ghostscript, together with either ps2ascii (part of the Ghostscript package) or pstotext (available from a DEC server, described in the Ghostscript package), can do this, and is free for use (but not redistribution). You will get only the text -- no formatting of any kind: I hope this is what you want. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html "Few things are impossible to diligence and skill." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Oct-1997 1:56:35-GMT,4595;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28220 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:56:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02007; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:54:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:41:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01318; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:41:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:42:51 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710181713.LAA16927@sportsurf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Bob Shewring Subject: Re: [PDF] Why not a real Ghostscript-based PDF reader? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greetings List members, I for one would not only be a user of it and would not mind paying for it. It would solve a large distribution problem we have in allowing users to fill in a form and print it or save it to disk. Looking forward to someone producing something that can do the above simply and be distributable. Wish (g) if it could reside on a CD and not require installation by the user it would be an enormous advantage. TIA and have a great weekend wherever you are, thanks to all who contribute to this list, you do a fantastic job. Bob Shewring >Hi PDFers, > >IMHO, this offer from L. Peter Deutsch, ghost@aladdin.com, reposted >below, is a huge deal. I don't want to drop this thread. > >(Now that I know what PDF 1.2 is nothing do do with Acrobat version #s.) > >>Ghostscript already has the ability to display PDF files (through PDF 1.2, >>with a couple of minor omissions), including the building blocks for jumps >>to specified pages with specified magnifications. A Reader-like program >>built around Ghostscript could free programmers from Adobe's restrictions. >>I haven't looked at Adobe's SDK, but I'm sure its functions could be >>duplicated easily on top of Ghostscript. >> >>Note that Ghostscript can display PDF files, but it doesn't implement any of >>PDF's interactive capabilities (links, bookmarks, URI-following, movies, >>...). One step in the project would be to create an application that added >>those capabilities, separate from Ghostscript (perhaps by enhancing one or >>more of GSview, Ghostview, and/or gv). >> >>If someone is interested in taking on this project and is willing to make a >>commitment to following through, I'd be happy to assist them with >>information or with 'hooks' that would make their job easier. I have to say >>that my experience with volunteer projects in the past has not been good, >>and I don't want to waste my time helping someone whose work is going to >>wind up gathering dust in an incomplete state. > >What are the top priorities? > >I'd like to see an end-user use a "FREE READER" and fill-out a FORM that >can be saved to disk. Then we can work on "re-loading" the form data for >later completion. And, then we can work on transmission of the FORM data >to a server/drop box/ or even as an email attachement. > >I think that this is a big sticking point for the Acrobat suite, as per >Adobe's license decisions. > >What do you all think about this? Where is the holy grail in these issues >really? > > > > >-------------- >Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net > >mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes > >FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with >built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. >-------------- > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Bob Shewring, MultiMedia and Communication Solutions PO Box 146, HOWARD SPRINGS NT 0835, AUSTRALIA Ph. +61 08 89831493, Fax +61 08 89833018 Mob. +61 0411225240 e-mail: bshew@ozemail.com.au +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Oct-1997 14:14:56-GMT,2720;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10151 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:14:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10859; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:12:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:03:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10490; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:03:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199710191402.QAA11189@aralia.wanadoo.fr> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: Subject: [PDF] DSC (Poscript) : Xpress -> PDF Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:03:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01BCDCA8.79A1E200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BCDCA8.79A1E200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I want to "distill" Xpress files, with Xpress 3.32, and i don't know = where can i find in Xpress 3.32, DSC (Document structuring Comments) = comments for Title, Author, and Creator. 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I want to = "distill"=20 Xpress files, with Xpress 3.32, and i don't know where can i find in = Xpress=20 3.32, DSC (Document structuring Comments) comments for Title, Author, = and=20 Creator.

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Franck Filhoulaud ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BCDCA8.79A1E200-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Oct-1997 16:00:26-GMT,1469;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11853 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:00:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12531; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:58:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:50:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12204; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:50:29 -0500 Message-ID: <344A480B.C7B290AF@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:48:59 -0700 From: D I A Z X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] DSC (Poscript) : Xpress -> PDF References: <199710191402.QAA11189@aralia.wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 i really do not know why you are writing me regarding this subject have you tried adobe distiller?? -- remove x in email address to reply +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Oct-1997 21:21:42-GMT,2292;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17433 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:21:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA17903; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:19:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:06:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17235; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:06:54 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:07:55 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199710191708_MC2-2470-7C9E@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA17231 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >According to Thomas Merz' (mailto: tm@muc.de) book "Mit Acrobat ins World >Wide Web" you could use the following codes: > > a (ae) \344, o (oe) \366, u (ue) \374, A (Ae) \304, O (Oe) \326, U (Ue) >\334 > >So, your title line would be > > /Title (\304nderungshistorie) > >Hope, this can help. This did not cure the problem for Distiller 3.0 as far as my experiments showed. Nevertheless the problem seems to go away with Distiller 3.0.1. Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Oct-1997 21:21:44-GMT,2362;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17438 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:21:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA17902; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:19:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:07:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17289; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:07:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:07:58 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199710191708_MC2-2470-7CA0@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA17285 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thomas, >There are definitely some "Umlaut-related" >bugs in Distiller 3.0 and 3.01. I had the impression the bug was fixed in 3.0.1. We are doing some Acrobat notes creating things (using pdfmark code) from within a QuarkXPress XTension. While no workaround I could think of seemed to help when using Distiller 3.0, the problem - at least when it comes to notes, i.e. their author and their contents - I did not realise any problems any more when using Distiller 3.0.1. Should I have to check this again? Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Oct-1997 21:22:01-GMT,1968;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17444 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:22:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA17904; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:19:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:06:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17256; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:06:57 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:07:52 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199710191708_MC2-2470-7C9C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA17253 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Laura, this is a (known...) bug with Distiller 3.0 and to the best of my knowledge has been fixed with version 3.0.1. Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 1:07:56-GMT,3763;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21364 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:07:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA22972; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:54:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:43:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA22522; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:43:18 -0500 Message-ID: Date: 20 Oct 1997 10:48:22 +1100 From: "Gloria Wood" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat training To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP for Quarterdeck Mail; Version 4.0.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would also be interested in Acrobat training for developers. Does anyone know of quality courses in Sydney, Australia? Gloria Wood University of Wollongong Northfields Avenue Wollongong NSW 2522 Australia _______________________________________________________________________________ To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: pdf@lists.emrg.com on Sat, 18 Oct 1997 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat training RFC Header:Received: by uow.edu.au with ADMIN;18 Oct 1997 14:55:42 +1100 Received: from wumpus.its.uow.edu.au (wumpus.its.uow.edu.au [130.130.68.12]) by wyrm.its.uow.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09152 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:55:24 +1000 (EST) Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by wumpus.its.uow.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA03655 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:55:22 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA17658; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 23:53:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Oct 1997 23:45:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA17329; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 23:45:54 -0500 X-Sender: sjledet@mail.ledet.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3447C00C.4AD33843@lucent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 00:16:10 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Sterling Ledet Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat training Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I would like to bring some Acrobat training into my organization. >I've done a lot of research on the authorized training vendors >from the Adobe web page, but there is a wide range of course >length and cost. Has anyone taken US-based Acrobat training >they would recommend or not recommend? What type of training are you looking for? End-user or developer? Exchange, Capture, indexing etc? I'd really like to hear what you uncover so please do share it with the list. Sterling Ledet & Associates ph.404-325-3338 2176 Heritage Drive Atlanta, GA 30345 http://www.ledet.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 8:32:32-GMT,2120;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA29347 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 02:32:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA31368; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:25:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:14:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA30950; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:14:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:15:00 GMT X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710191708_MC2-2470-7C9E@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Olar (and Thomas and Laura), I did notice the Distiller 3.0 bug too ... after I sent out that message. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com ____________________ >>According to Thomas Merz' (mailto: tm@muc.de) book "Mit Acrobat ins World >>Wide Web" you could use the following codes: >> >> a (ae) \344, o (oe) \366, u (ue) \374, A (Ae) \304, O (Oe) \326, U (Ue) >>\334 >> >>So, your title line would be >> >> /Title (\304nderungshistorie) >> >>Hope, this can help. > >This did not cure the problem for Distiller 3.0 as far as my experiments >showed. > >Nevertheless the problem seems to go away with Distiller 3.0.1. > >Olaf Druemmer > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 10:20:05-GMT,1997;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA01153 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 04:20:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA00824; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 05:14:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 05:07:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA00466; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 05:07:15 -0500 X-Sender: mnahas@mail.geko.net.au Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:08:41 +1000 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Michael Nahas Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat training Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I would also be interested in Acrobat training for developers. Does anyone >know of quality courses in Sydney, Australia? >Gloria Wood >University of Wollongong >Northfields Avenue >Wollongong NSW 2522 >Australia >_____________________________________________________________________________ Gloria, I run a Sydney based training company, including Acrobat training. I also train in other programs such as Illustrator, QuarkXpress and Photoshop. Send me an email off-list if you want more information about training. Regards, Michael Nahas The Digital Advantage * Computer Graphics & Prepress Training * Acrobat Development and Training Sydney, Australia 02-9557 0256 ***************************************** +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 12:06:40-GMT,1993;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02914 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 06:06:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA02938; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:02:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 06:55:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA02504; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 06:55:35 -0500 From: Nic Plum To: pdf@emrg.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 Subject: [PDF] Idiot Question About Downloaded Fonts X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:39:13 +0100 Message-ID: <877347806.209898.0@nplum.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This might be stupid but when printing postscript to file on the PC using the Distiller printer driver are all the fonts included, excluded or what by default? On the Mac the user is offered the choice of 'None' , 'All But Standard 35', 'All But Standard 13' and 'All But Ones in PPD'. I can't see how (if) the PC user is offered any choice about which fonts to include. Comparing resulting file sizes I'd suggest that no fonts were included, but I'm willing to take advce. Can anyone tell me what happens on the PC? -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Under this sod lies another...! Nic Plum Buckden, Huntingdon, Cambs. UK. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 12:23:24-GMT,2497;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03216 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 06:23:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA03649; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:18:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:12:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA03249; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:12:47 -0500 From: Nic Plum To: pdf@emrg.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 Subject: [PDF] Create Postscript on One Platform, Distill on Another ..? X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:35:02 +0100 Message-ID: <877347804.209892.0@nplum.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For some while now I've been generating a postscript file from MS Word 6 on the PC and Distilling on my Mac. So far, so good. The problem has been that some of the resulting acrobat bookmarks (generated automatically by a template for Word) have jumped to the right page, but slightly incorrect vertical position. When checked using GhostView the vertical co-ordinate appears to be the right one. When I use Word 6 on the Mac, same document, same template to generate the postscript file and distill it .. voila absolotely spot on (as nature intended!). I'm beginning to think that although the same TrueType fonts exist on both (as installed by MS Office) that the metrics might be slightly different. I've seen this happen in just Word where the text flow is completely different for the same document. Is this just my imagination or is this a cross-platform effect and would I be better to distill on the same platform that the postscript was originally generated on? I'd like to understand what's going on. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Under this sod lies another...! Nic Plum Buckden, Huntingdon, Cambs. UK. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Oct-1997 11:52:14-GMT,3129;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14016 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 05:52:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA22357; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:48:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:40:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA22035; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:40:32 -0500 From: WBren@gre-ins.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:45:10 -0400 Message-ID: <4489ED60.@gre-ins.com> Subject: [PDF] Relative links..UNIX, Novell, Backwards? To: pdf-l@emrg.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to replies on this list I was able to create some "relative links" that opened up a PDF file from a PDF file on Novell/Windows/Dos LAN AND on a AIX(UNIX) platform using a browser. (Both the /Action /GoToR and the /Action /Launch worked by the way.) But it didn't work the way I though it would hence the follow up description. I had to define the links as "/File (directory/file.pdf)" for it to work on both systems as opposed to a "/File (../../directory/file.pdf)". As defined in Portable Document Format Reference Manual Version 1.2--Section 7.3.1 This works fine for me assuming my link go one way, for example if the contents of dir1 are: filea.pdf dir2/ and the contents of dir2 are: fileb.pdf dir3a/ dir3b/ and the contents of dir3a are filec.pdf filed.pdf and the contents of dir3b are filef.pdf fileg.pdf ... then I can put links in filea.pdf that link TO File(b-g). But... how can I define links that go from filec.pdf in dir3a to files in dir1, dir2 and dir3b using relative links? On Novell the link could be defined as "(//dir1/filea.pdf)" and "(//dir1/dir2/fileb.pdf)" and "(//dir1/dir2/dir3b/filef.pdf)" etc. which inserts the current drive letter to complete the call from any document including itself as F:\dir1\filea.pdf. On unix, through a Web browser, the address includes an IP address for example "http://140.#.##.###/dir1/filea.pdf". How can I reconcile these paths to have a single link that works with the Acrobat Reader on the Novell based LAN, and with a browser plug-in on a UNIX based server? Sincerely, Wes Bren GRE Insurance Group 513.576.4734 Ohio, USA +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 12:54:04-GMT,3282;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03755 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 06:54:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA04708; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:51:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:45:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04490; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:45:06 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <41256536.0044D4A1.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:45:33 +0100 Subject: [PDF] trouble with non-standard- fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, There's a problem, when converting PS-documents, which include non-standard fonts. (Non-standard-fonts mean, fonts, which doesn't belong to the 13 standard fonts, adobe delivers with all their products.) We use the AdobePS4.1 printerdriver (which is recommended by Adobe) with the adistill.ppd file delivered whith Distiller 3.0 to generate the PS-Files and convert them with Distiller 3.0 for Windows95. The PDF-dokument looks fine, but TouchUp, normal textsearch and search with an index generated by catalog doesn't work. It seems, as if text has been converted to vector-graphics, though TouchUp recognizes it as an "Untergruppe" (the english expression may be subgroup). Moreover I found out, that the original Fontname "Frutiger Roman" is converted to something like "MSTT31c....." (I looked at File->DocInfo->Fonts). Then I threw a glimpse an the PS-File, where i found %%BeginFont: MSTT31c32500 18000 VM? 0 228 2048 0 /MSTT31c32500 (Frutiger Roman) (Bold) /TrueType 0 false Type1Hdr 9E67EDC6F3DDB5..... .. and later in the code ... %%Trailer %%DocumentNeededFonts: %%DocumentSuppliedFonts: Frutiger Roman I tried to replace the name "MSTT31c32500" with "Frutiger Roman", but then Distiller wasn't able to convert the document at all (maybe the parity check went wrong) I thought about some workarounds which may work, but don't know how to implement them: 1.) If the fontname wouldn't be changed I could tell Distiller not to embed that font (since it's installed on all our Computers, the System font could be used instead), but there isnt't a font like "MSTT31c..." so, Acrobat Reader cannot show any letters. 2.) If I can add our font to the 13 standard fonts and tell the PS-driver, that it's on standard-ROM, "Frutiger" should be handeld like "Arial", where we haven't had any Problem with. If I convert a document using the PDFWriter I have non of these problems. The fontname remains unchanged and it must be completly embedded, because I can use the TouchUp tool. Greetings, Laura Dietz Mannesmann Arcor +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 12:55:44-GMT,1649;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03783 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 06:55:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA04375; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:41:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:35:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04020; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:35:22 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDD5C.DA33F860@ppp471.enterprise.net> From: "OMI Logistics, Handforth, UK" To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing zoomed views Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:33:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greetings all: Does anyone know of a way to print zoomed or selected views using the 3.x reader? I am trying to print zoomed sections of PDFed CAD drawing I have looked at the Ariel 2 plug-in but this feature is ONLY available when installed to Exchange... Ideas anyone? Darryl Lucas, OMI Logistics, Handforth, UK +44 (0) 1626 532286 omihan@enterprise.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 13:34:05-GMT,1722;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04568 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:34:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA05932; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:30:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:24:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA05521; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:24:05 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <41256536.004F1DB5.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:24:29 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thomas Merz (tm@muc.de) wrote: > There are definitely some "Umlaut-related" > bugs in Distiller 3.0 and 3.01. Olaf Druemmer (callas@compuserve.com) wrote: >Nevertheless the problem seems to go away with Distiller 3.0.1. Does anyone know which bugs are fixed and which are not? Do even more mutated-vowel problems occur than the ones I know? (missing mutated vowels in the beginning of bookmarks-titles; missing mutated vowels everywhere in Docinfo) Regards, Laura Dietz Mannesmann Arcor +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 13:40:30-GMT,3016;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04694 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:40:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA06417; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:37:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:31:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA05991; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:31:46 -0500 Date: 20 Oct 97 07:38:17 -0600 From: Dennis Walker Subject: RE: [PDF] DSC (Poscript) : Xpress -> PDF To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="====48545057495253535350===1" Message-ID: <1334789502-118265745@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --====48545057495253535350===1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My understanding is that QXP doesn't write DSC complient PS. In order to = get DSC PS from QXP, you need to use the Luminous Prepress XTension (LPX). Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax Franck Filhoulaud wrote: >=A0Hello, >I want to "distill" Xpress files, with Xpress 3.32, and i don't know = where = >can i find in Xpress 3.32, DSC (Document structuring Comments) comments = for = >Title, Author, and Creator. >Thanks=A0 >Franck Filhoulaud --====48545057495253535350===1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable = My understanding = is that QXP doesn't write DSC complient = PS. In order to get DSC PS from QXP, you = need to use the Luminous Prepress XTension = (LPX).

Dennis Walker = dennisw@inpractice.net
EVP/Production = Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice
InPractice = Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax

Franck Filhoulaud = wrote:
> Hello,
>I = want to "distill" Xpress files, = with Xpress 3.32, and i don't know where =
>can i find in Xpress 3.32, DSC (Document = structuring Comments) comments for
>Title, = Author, and Creator.
>Thanks 
>Franck = Filhoulaud --====48545057495253535350===1-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 13:47:42-GMT,2907;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04836 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:47:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA06690; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:43:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:37:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06351; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:37:08 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <41256536.004F50DC.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:37:42 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] Create Postscript on One Platform, Distill on Another ..? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi nic, We also use a Wordbasic macro with the same functionality. Fact is, that links and bookmark-targets are written in absolute coordinates to the end of the Postscript file. I don't know how distilling works and I don't know if installed system fonts are used by distiller, but i guess not. Nevertheless I got similar problems whith my macro-version which I trace back to bugs in winword, so that the wrong coordinates were appended to the PS-file. Moreover, it would be interresting if you use standard fonts like "arial" (for wich "helvetica" is used) or other ones. Regards, Laura Dietz Mannesmann Arcor For some while now I've been generating a postscript file from MS Word 6 on the PC and Distilling on my Mac. So far, so good. The problem has been that some of the resulting acrobat bookmarks (generated automatically by a template for Word) have jumped to the right page, but slightly incorrect vertical position. When checked using GhostView the vertical co-ordinate appears to be the right one. When I use Word 6 on the Mac, same document, same template to generate the postscript file and distill it .. voila absolotely spot on (as nature intended!). I'm beginning to think that although the same TrueType fonts exist on both (as installed by MS Office) that the metrics might be slightly different. I've seen this happen in just Word where the text flow is completely different for the same document. Is this just my imagination or is this a cross-platform effect and would I be better to distill on the same platform that the postscript was originally generated on? I'd like to understand what's going on. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 13:52:45-GMT,3030;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04952 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:52:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA07078; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:49:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:43:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06654; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:42:58 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:44:11 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "Gaylin Walli" Subject: [PDF] Loading PDF to web server thru firewall Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDFers: For several hours each of the last two nights, I tried without success to load several PDF and PS files from my Mac (PowerCenter Pro 210, sys 7.61) to our web server (HP, uhm HPUX 10?). Our web server sits outside our corporate firewall. These files range in size from 64K to 15MB. When I try FTPing text or GIF files, things are fine and dandy. The PDF and PS files are, as far as I can tell, just fine. I tried looking at them on three different machines (Mac, PC, SGI) without passing them through the firewall and they're beautiful. The trouble happens when I try to get them onto the server. I tried using Fetch 3.03 and NetFinder 1.2, both without success. These programs work just fine for plain text and graphics files on our web server and any of the other machines on our network. Here is what I observed about the loading problem: (1) Files moved to the web server would come up with one of two problems when you attempted to read it on the server or download it from the server and read it locally. These problems were a "File corrupted. Could not be repaired." error and a request for a password. The files are unprotected from a security standpoint. (2) When I load the files on the server, the size changes radically, usually smaller. (3) When I load the PS files on the server, download them to a Sun box back on this side of the firewall, and try to read them using Ghostview, everything is peachy. But when one of my coworkers (currently in Sweden) tries to download the same file to a customer's machine (via a Communicator web browser) the PS file is unreadable. I need some words to spew at my system administrator to get him to help me diagnose the problem. Any ideas? gaylin gaylin@infoengine.com Member, Technical Staff, auxilium inc. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 13:56:19-GMT,1749;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05034 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:56:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA07276; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:53:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:46:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06846; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:46:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199710201357.PAA07163@zahra.easynet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] Create Postscript on One Platform, Distill on Another Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 15:47:41 +0100 x-sender: public@easy1.easynet.it x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Milko Schiopetto To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >Is this just my imagination or is this a cross-platform effect and would I >be better to distill on the same platform that the postscript was originally >generated on? I'd like to understand what's going on. I have the same problem only while i generate the PS file from Win95 and distill with Acrobat Distiller 2.1 on Mac. Files Ps generated from Win 3.1W doesn't generate this problem. I have not try Distiller 3.0 enough. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 13:56:32-GMT,1749;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05043 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 07:56:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA07273; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:52:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:46:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06819; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:46:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199710201357.PAA07163@zahra.easynet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] Create Postscript on One Platform, Distill on Another Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 15:47:41 +0100 x-sender: public@easy1.easynet.it x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Milko Schiopetto To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >Is this just my imagination or is this a cross-platform effect and would I >be better to distill on the same platform that the postscript was originally >generated on? I'd like to understand what's going on. I have the same problem only while i generate the PS file from Win95 and distill with Acrobat Distiller 2.1 on Mac. Files Ps generated from Win 3.1W doesn't generate this problem. I have not try Distiller 3.0 enough. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 14:30:50-GMT,2302;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05836 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:30:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA08823; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:27:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:19:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA08172; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:19:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:16:50 -0400 From: Theresa Clay Subject: Re: [PDF] trouble with non-standard- fonts To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <85256536.004D9212.00@hub.ap.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 10/20/97 01:45 PM GMT, Laura Dietz "Moreover I found out, that the original Fontname "Frutiger Roman" is converted to something like "MSTT31c....." (I looked at File->DocInfo->Fonts). Then I threw a glimpse an the PS-File, where i found %%BeginFont: MSTT31c32500 18000 VM? 0 228 2048 0 /MSTT31c32500 (Frutiger Roman) (Bold) /TrueType 0 false Type1Hdr 9E67EDC6F3DDB5....." The conversion of the font name Frutiger Roman to MSTT31c32500 indicates that it is a Microsoft True Type font (hence the MSTT prefix). If you go to the Microsoft website, you will find that Microsoft says that their fonts may be flagged to "never embed". As we all know, fonts that are not properly embedded in a PDF file can cause problems down the line. So if the font Frutiger Roman was flagged to "never embed" when Microsoft created the font, that might explain why you are having problems with that font. BTW, this "never embed" characteristic is common in many True Type font families besides the ones that Microsoft has created. -theresa clay The Associated Press/AdSEND +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 14:54:25-GMT,2245;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06461 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA09629; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:49:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:42:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09237; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:42:23 -0500 Message-ID: <344B6E94.66CF@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:45:41 -0400 From: Louis Rosa Organization: Florida Center for Library Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobate Exchange question (pdf to thumnails) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a number of PDF files ( ... thousands) residing on a Unix/directory/subdirectories. I can manually run Exchange to open and add thumbnails to each individual PDF but this is very time consuming. Is there a way or does anyone have a script or batch process to automatically generate thumbnails for each PDF files in a directory/subdirectories ? I have tried using the "Batch Optimize.." option under File menu in Exchange but there are other types of files in the directories (filename.sgl or filename.raw) so every time it encounters a non pdf file (filename.pdf) I get a warning messgae that appears in an X-Window that I have to repond to..., well this would take forever to click on each warning so is there a way to disable the warings so they do not require a responce or is there anther way to do this? or any program out there that would run under unix. Thanks for your help. -louisr +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 14:58:43-GMT,2400;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06580 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10044; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:57:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:50:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09742; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:50:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:51:37 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199710201051_MC2-247C-CDEC@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA09730 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Does anyone know which bugs are fixed and which are not? Adobe should know.... >Do even more >mutated-vowel >problems occur than the ones I know? (missing mutated vowels in the >beginning of >bookmarks-titles; missing mutated vowels everywhere in Docinfo) The mutated vowels problem has to do with ASCII codes beyond 127, a range where you'll also find most special characters, accented characters and the like. Once the problem has been solved for umlauts, it should also be solved for any other special characters. (But who knows for sure?) Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 15:41:05-GMT,3495;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07656 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:41:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12318; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:39:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:33:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11947; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:33:17 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <41256536.00599FA1.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:33:48 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] trouble with non-standard- fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, As I understood, the "never embed" flag assures, that noone is able to extract the font from a PS-File and sell it freeware. And maybe thats why the fontname is changed. So I tried to remove that flag called "fsType", but still the fontname is changed and the Touch-Up problem still remains. Does anyone know, how to tell a postscriptdriver (through a ppd-file) that a Type1 font is available at the printer? The online help for the adobePS-driver says: "The Adobe Printer Driver can substitute any available PostScript font for the TrueType fonts in your document. you can let the driver automatically choose the best PostScript font, or you can choose the font to substitute yourself. The PostScript fonts available to a PostScript printer include the following: 1) The fonts resident in the printer ROM (built-in printer fonts) 2) The fonts in any device attached to the printer, such as a hard disk or a CD-ROM drive" and in the sample ppd-file I found *% Font Information ===================== *Font Courier: Standard "(002.004)" Standard ROM ok, this is a sample for case 1), but how can I translate it to case 2) ? Laura Dietz Mannesmann Arcor On 10/20/97 01:45 PM GMT, Laura Dietz "Moreover I found out, that the original Fontname "Frutiger Roman" is converted to something like "MSTT31c....." (I looked at File->DocInfo->Fonts). Then I threw a glimpse an the PS-File, where i found %%BeginFont: MSTT31c32500 18000 VM? 0 228 2048 0 /MSTT31c32500 (Frutiger Roman) (Bold) /TrueType 0 false Type1Hdr 9E67EDC6F3DDB5....." The conversion of the font name Frutiger Roman to MSTT31c32500 indicates that it is a Microsoft True Type font (hence the MSTT prefix). If you go to the Microsoft website, you will find that Microsoft says that their fonts may be flagged to "never embed". As we all know, fonts that are not properly embedded in a PDF file can cause problems down the line. So if the font Frutiger Roman was flagged to "never embed" when Microsoft created the font, that might explain why you are having problems with that font. BTW, this "never embed" characteristic is common in many True Type font families besides the ones that Microsoft has created. -theresa clay The Associated Press/AdSEND +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 15:44:03-GMT,2598;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07764 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:44:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12486; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:42:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:36:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12110; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:36:20 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDD76.53CDB1C0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobate Exchange question (pdf to thumnails) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:04:46 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Each time you ask this (at least three times now, I think), I reply: mkdir tempdir mv target/*.pdf tempdir mv tempdir/* target or something like that. Doesn't this work for you? Or do you not understand the reply? Aandi On Monday, October 20, 1997 15:46, Louis Rosa [SMTP:louisr@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu] wrote: > > I have a number of PDF files ( ... thousands) residing on a > Unix/directory/subdirectories. I can manually run Exchange to open and > add thumbnails to each individual PDF but this is very time consuming. > > Is there a way or does anyone have a script or batch process to > automatically generate thumbnails for each PDF files in a > directory/subdirectories ? > > I have tried using the "Batch Optimize.." option under File menu in > Exchange but there are other types of files in the directories > (filename.sgl or filename.raw) so every time it encounters a non pdf > file (filename.pdf) I get a warning messgae that appears in an X-Window > that I have to repond to..., well this would take forever to click on > each warning so is there a way to disable the warings so they do not > require a responce or is there anther way to do this? or any program out > there that would run under unix. > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 15:47:13-GMT,2962;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07828 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:47:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12631; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:45:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:39:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12291; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:39:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:40:28 +0100 (BST) From: David Brailsford X-Sender: dfb@quiver To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Loading PDF to web server thru firewall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Gaylin Walli wrote: > > When I try FTPing text or GIF files, things are fine > and dandy. The PDF and PS files are, as far as I can > tell, just fine. I tried looking at them on three > different machines (Mac, PC, SGI) without passing > them through the firewall and they're beautiful. > The trouble happens when I try to get them onto the > server. > > I tried using Fetch 3.03 and NetFinder 1.2, both > without success. These programs work just fine for > plain text and graphics files on our web server and > any of the other machines on our network. > Do these two products have a "binary" mode? If so you need to set them in that mode in order to guarantee safe transfer of PDF files. When you used FTP (successfully) did you set this into binary mode also? If you try and transfer PDF in text mode you'll *sometimes* get away with it but not always. PDF relies crucially on byte offsets in its cross-ref. table in order to locate PDF objects within the file. If these get fouled up by text-mode transfers doing such things as either (a) truncating long lines or (b) inserting gratuitous newlines so that "everything fits on your screen" (!) then Reader/Exchange can sometimes repair the file and rebuild the cross-ref. table. But if the damage is bad then the attempt fails (with the sort of error message you've been getting). All of this also relates to sending PDF files via e-mail which has been the subject of various threads on this list going back to Jan. 1996. Here again you need your e-mailer to attach the PDF in Mime Base64 -- the mode that copes quite generally with "binary" material. David B. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 16:42:51-GMT,1968;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09384 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:42:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA15900; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:41:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:34:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14010; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:12:35 -0500 Message-ID: <344B83DB.9F1@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:16:27 -0400 From: Louis Rosa Organization: Florida Center for Library Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobate Exchange question (pdf to thumnails) References: <01BCDD76.53CDB1C0.quite@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi Inston wrote: > > Each time you ask this (at least three times now, I think), I reply: > > mkdir tempdir > mv target/*.pdf tempdir > > mv tempdir/* target > > or something like that. Doesn't this work for you? Or do you not understand the > reply? > > Aandi Aandi; in so many words BYTE ME! you moron I am looking for a better solution then to just move the pdfs and this also take a lot of time and that is what I am doing and I did not need you to tell me the obvious. So next time just don't respond you idiot... -louis +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 16:47:32-GMT,2737;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09489 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:47:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16109; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:46:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:44:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16006; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:44:52 -0500 From: Nic Plum To: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Cc: pdf@emrg.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: [PDF] Create Postscript on One Platform, Distill on Another ..? - Contd. Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:43:15 +0100 Message-ID: <01bcdd6e$edba93a0$LocalHost@demon.co.uk.nplum> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Laura, i'm only using the basic TrueType Aerial font in the document (which maps to Helvetica under the PC Distiller printer driver) - nothing exotic! I know (as far as I can) that Word is generating the right vertical co-ordinate as I use GhostView on the original Pc - generated file to confirm the co-ordinate. Equally since I've set my Heading 1 level to start on a new page. These bookmarks are always correct. It's the ones lower down that can be in error. This supports what you say wrt taking reference from the beginning of the file. The only thing I can think to do is generate a postscript file on the Mac for the same document and again check the co-ordinates out using the Mac version of GhostView. If these then match what the macro (exactly the same template) is saying, but different from the set of co-ordinates for the PC - generated version we'll know for sure that the macro is OK and it's the postscript that is different. I'll let you know what happens. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Under this sod lies another...! Nic Plum Buckden, Huntingdon, Cambs. UK. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 16:58:37-GMT,4397;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09834 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:58:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16502; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:57:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:55:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16440; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:55:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:56:37 +0100 (BST) From: David Brailsford X-Sender: dfb@quiver To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Internet PDF Distribution In-Reply-To: <01BCD3EE.67E884A0.quite@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Aandi Inston wrote: > Probably getting off track here, but I'm pretty sure this statement is > (partially) wrong. WWW protocols simply send binary files, and they get > through because nothing interferes with them. Using Base64 would increase > the file size by 10-20% (can't remember the right value) for no gain. > Quite right Aandi -- brain slipped out of gear. Base64 isn't necessary if comms. channels are set up not to mess about with content > > Unfortunately, although MIME is a good standard, there are differences in > implementation. I have received messages where I couldn't extract > the attachment because the sender hadn't named the attachment and > my mailer wouldn't save with a default name. This is probably a bug > in something, but few people will change their mailer to suit you. > In my view, attachments are a good way of > (a) sending within a workgroup where the mail agents are all the same > or controlled > (b) sending data to a single individual, where you have the time to > try again with different systems if necessary. > > As a way of automatically sending data to a bunch of people with different > mailers, attachments are a bit of a disaster, though many people find > it superficially attractive after success with (a) or (b) above. There's much truth in the above. About two years ago there was much consternation in the Mime community at mail messages emanating from certain Microsoft mailers that claimed in their headers to be Mime compliant but actually weren't.... But (and I don't think I'm being *too* mindlessly optimistic here) e-mail software is gradually and painfully getting better. Many mailers can now *receive* Base64 PDF attachments and cope with them OK. The much bigger problem is in *generating* the correct header if you send an attached PDF file to someone else. Traditional e-mailers seem to rely on their own inspection of the contents of a file to determine its type (e.g PostScript, HTML, MPEG etc.) and whether it needs Base64 encoding. If they don't recognise the content but suspect that it's "binary" in some sense they use a "catch-all" type called `octet-stream' and so what you'll get (behind the scenes) when you attach "fred.pdf" is something like: Content-Type: APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM; NAME="fred.pdf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 whereas what you *really* need is: Content-Type: APPLICATION/PDF; NAME="fred.pdf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 in order to help ensure that Reader or Exchange fires up automatically at the receiving end. There is a mechanism -- the "mime.types" file -- which can cope with any arbitrary new format (e.g. PDF) by letting you stipulate that any filename with extension ".PDF" needs the "PDF viewer" (which you specify to be Acrobat) regardless of any "octet stream" stuff in the content-type field. Problem is that the mailers which don't inherently recognise outgoing PDF (mercifully my Pine mailer now does this correctly) seem to be the very ones that also don't implement "mime.types". Sigh! David B. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 16:58:36-GMT,3370;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09828 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:58:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16492; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:56:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:55:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16408; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:55:29 -0500 Message-ID: <344B8FCB.D0920F7C@glyphica.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:07:23 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Emerge Extra Feedback X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >My other objection relates to the constant misuse of the term "PDF" to
>refer to Acrobat products, etc.  For example, this issue states
>
>       Our colleagues at Glyphica(TM) in Mountain
>         View, CA, this past week unveiled
>         "PurePDF,"(TM) a new online publication aimed
>         at disseminating "valuable information related to
>         Acrobat software and publishing."
>
>Obviously this periodical is NOT pure PDF is it's really about Acrobat
>products, and not about the PDF format.

The choice of linking quotations and their own text in the
announcement was the decision of Emerge, not a decision
of the publishers of PurePDF ... Nonetheless, perhaps you'd
like to visit the webzine before discounting it.

You'll find stories from users such as Miller Freeman, MCI,
and Douglas Aircraft about how they use Acrobat products
to distribute information in PDF format (how's that ;~) )
You'll also find specific opinion columns which deal directly
with PDF as a file format.  And you'll find tips about
using the software to produce materials in the PDF format
more quickly or more easily.

I suspect that many readers would find that Acrobat
products -- which facilitate the creation of content in the
PDF format from paper and electronic source materials
-- and the format itself are topics which are appropriately
intertwined.

Regards,
Deidre Paknad
Glyphica   http://www.glyphica.com

Check out the new Acrobat magazine on the Web:
PurePDF, The Acrobat Info Source on the Web
http://www.purepdf.com
..............................................................................
 
  +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 17:02:01-GMT,2218;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09911 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:02:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA16706; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:00:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:59:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16641; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:59:18 -0500 Message-ID: <344B8ECB.350F@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:03:07 -0400 From: Louis Rosa Organization: Florida Center for Library Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Acrobat Exchange question References: <344B7D8D.722F544D@lucent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 D4169/Emily R. Jorgenson/X2515/D/B wrote: > > Louis - > > I saw your post on the PDF list. I have never generated > thumbnails or used Batch Optimize, but was thinking that if it > works for you in every other respect, you could move the other > .sgl and .raw files to another directory until after you generate > the thumbnails. Rather simplistic, but it could work until you > find a batch program. > > Emily Jorgenson Emily; thank you for your reply but I am already doing this. I am looking for a way that I can do this in the back ground and run it automatically so to free up my time. So I guess the questiom is two tier the first is getting around the non pdf files (which is not a problem-already solved) secondly a way to run Acobat Exchange on the command line instead of the x-window interface so as to automate the process. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 17:29:48-GMT,1994;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10589 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:29:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA18253; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:28:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:26:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA18084; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:26:31 -0500 Message-Id: <344B945A.E18E210E@lucent.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:26:50 -0400 From: "D4169/Emily R. Jorgenson/X2515/D/B" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat training References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To clarify my earlier post: I am currently evaluating Acrobat developer training, that includes distilling files to PDF, publishing on the WWW or CD-ROM, adding bookmarks, managing cross-document links, using Exchange in a document review cycle, building an index, etc. Information on using pdfmark code would be nice, too. The training information I found is available on the Adobe website at http://www.adobe.com (links to authorized providers) or through an Internet search, and I have found several companies I am considering. I was looking for recommendations of training that people on this list may have taken. Thanks, Emily +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 18:00:51-GMT,3165;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11394 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:00:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA19379; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:59:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:57:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA19301; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:57:49 -0500 From: Nic Plum Old-To: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Cc: pdf@emrg.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: [PDF] Create Postscript on One Platform, Distill on Another ..? - Contd. Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:43:15 +0100 Message-ID: <01bcdd6e$edba93a0$LocalHost@demon.co.uk.nplum> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Laura, i'm only using the basic TrueType Aerial font in the document (which maps to Helvetica under the PC Distiller printer driver) - nothing exotic! I know (as far as I can) that Word is generating the right vertical co-ordinate as I use GhostView on the original Pc - generated file to confirm the co-ordinate. Equally since I've set my Heading 1 level to start on a new page. These bookmarks are always correct. It's the ones lower down that can be in error. This supports what you say wrt taking reference from the beginning of the file. The only thing I can think to do is generate a postscript file on the Mac for the same document and again check the co-ordinates out using the Mac version of GhostView. If these then match what the macro (exactly the same template) is saying, but different from the set of co-ordinates for the PC - generated version we'll know for sure that the macro is OK and it's the postscript that is different. I'll let you know what happens. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Under this sod lies another...! Nic Plum Buckden, Huntingdon, Cambs. UK. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 18:59:17-GMT,2465;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12853 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:59:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA21376; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:57:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:54:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21164; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:54:17 -0500 Message-Id: <344BA8E4.8164E44C@lucent.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:54:28 -0400 From: "D4169/Emily R. Jorgenson/X2515/D/B" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat training References: <01BCDD8F.47AB4600.quite@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------65D1EBC9B2D1F249E14781B6" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --------------65D1EBC9B2D1F249E14781B6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about Acrobat author, or publisher? You're right, developer wasn't the best word. But someone asked if I was looking for end-user or developer training, and it certainly wasn't end-user. Emily > With Acrobat there are developers (least in number), > another group who create and manage PDF files, > and the largest group of end-users or consumers. > --------------65D1EBC9B2D1F249E14781B6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about Acrobat author, or publisher?   You're right, developer wasn't the best word.  But someone asked if I was looking for end-user or developer training, and it certainly wasn't end-user.

Emily
  

With Acrobat there are developers (least in number), 
another group who create and manage PDF files,
and the largest group of end-users or consumers.
  --------------65D1EBC9B2D1F249E14781B6-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 19:13:21-GMT,3137;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13222 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:13:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20706; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:37:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:34:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20446; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:34:45 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDD8F.458A88E0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobate Exchange question (pdf to thumnails) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:24:24 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I don't think personal abuse is called for, so I won't continue this thread further. But it's worth pointing out why ignoring a response isn't a good idea (it makes me extremely cross, but that obviously isn't important). This information isn't obvious to everyone so I will post this reply publicly. With so many questions being asked, a lot of people don't bother to reply to a message which already has a reply. So you ask once, get a reply which is no use, and never hear any more. It is better to treat these as a dialog, and explain why that solution won't work for you. Then maybe someone else will suggest something. Or even the original respondent may have a better idea that would have taken longer to type, but they will if asked. Have a nice day. Aandi On Monday, October 20, 1997 17:16, Louis Rosa [SMTP:louisr@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu] wrote: > > Aandi Inston wrote: > > > > Each time you ask this (at least three times now, I think), I reply: > > > > mkdir tempdir > > mv target/*.pdf tempdir > > > > mv tempdir/* target > > > > or something like that. Doesn't this work for you? Or do you not understand the > > reply? > > > > Aandi > > Aandi; > in so many words BYTE ME! you moron I am looking for a better > solution then to just move the pdfs and this also take a lot of time and > that is what I am doing and I did not need you to tell me the obvious. > So next time just don't respond you idiot... > > -louis > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 19:13:45-GMT,2532;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13236 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:13:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20707; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:37:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:34:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20468; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:34:48 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDD8F.47AB4600.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat training Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:29:36 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I thnk you use developer in a different way to me, or I misunderstand. I would expect developer training to consist of how to program for Acrobat, write plug-ins, AppleScripts, OLE and the other information available from the Adobe Developer Association. PDFMark would be covered, but I would class all of the other activities as covered by user training. It's a little awkward. Most products have only end-users. Some have end-users and adminstrators. Some have developers and end-users. With Acrobat there are developers (least in number), another group who create and manage PDF files, and the largest group of end-users or consumers. I'm not sure what the best name for that middle group is, but I don't think developer is the best one... Aandi Inston On Monday, October 20, 1997 18:27, D4169/Emily R. Jorgenson/X2515/D/B [SMTP:erjorgenson@lucent.com] wrote: > > To clarify my earlier post: I am currently evaluating Acrobat > developer training, that includes distilling files to PDF, > publishing on the WWW or CD-ROM, adding bookmarks, managing > cross-document links, using Exchange in a document review cycle, > building an index, etc. Information on using pdfmark code would > be nice, too. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 19:37:50-GMT,2271;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13780 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:37:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA23215; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:36:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:33:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA23094; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:33:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971020143500.00686c34@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:35:03 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] security Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Looking for something more advanced than the basic Security features offered in File>Document Information>Security for a CD-ROM product. For instance, would it be possible to allow users of the CD the ability to navigate in one portion of the CD freely and yet have "document open" security on the other half of the CD. Setting each individual file in the secured area may accomplish this, but as a user, you would go nuts having to enter a password for each individual file. Is there something out there that would allow a user to enter a password only once to access the secure files for each new session of CD-ROM use? A person could essentially password protect say the secured table of contents that links to all the secured files, but a user could easily backdoor their way to the secured files by "browsing" the contents of the CD. Any thoughts are appreciated! Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 19:51:07-GMT,2833;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14062 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:51:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA23885; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:49:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:46:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA23764; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:46:21 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:47:34 -0500 To: From: mikejahn@jahn.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Why not a real Ghostscript-based PDF reader? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >What are the top priorities? > >I'd like to see an end-user use a "FREE READER" and fill-out a FORM that >can be saved to disk. Then we can work on "re-loading" the form data for >later completion. And, then we can work on transmission of the FORM data >to a server/drop box/ or even as an email attachement. > >I think that this is a big sticking point for the Acrobat suite, as per >Adobe's license decisions. > >What do you all think about this? Where is the holy grail in these issues >really? I want a free lunch too. And free gas. Come now...Adobe only gave the free Reader to get this PDF thing jump started...do you think the Adobe Stockholders are excited about giving additional fuctionaliity to a freebiee? If you want the product to grow, you need to put money into it...if you want Forms, buy Exchange. It is well worth the price. If you think you can develop a robust, reliable product that does the above with data verification to boot, I think someone needs a bit of a reality check. BTW, I am not certain here, but I don't think they ever found the Holy Grail.. *smile* Respectfully, Michael Jahn PDF Workflow Evangelist Agfa Division Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P 978.658.5600 Ext. 5504 F 978.658.7968 E michael_jahn@agfa.com Cell Phone 617.605.5716 Reason #173 to fear technology... o o o o o o> o .|. \|. \|/ // X \ | <| <|> /\ >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< Mr. Asciihead learns the Macarena. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 19:59:30-GMT,2640;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14206 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:59:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA24383; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:58:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:55:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24244; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:55:18 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDD9A.859D1E60.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat training Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:53:51 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Author is good, but potentially a problem too, since in some cases there is a person writing the content but not making the PDF, who'd like to think of themselves as the author. Similarly, publisher is a nice word, but can describe the person paying the bills. You could have "Acrobat technician". That's kind of cute. Or how about "Acrobat Creator". Or just "user" as distinct from "end user". Actually, I would think end-user is a good description of the person who's purchased Acrobat and is using it; they also produce files for other end-users. Just as with the paper model. An "end-user" of a Word processor creates documents, and prints them, for an "end-user" of paper documents.... Mind you, as a developer, I am an end-user of my compilers, but that could be getting out of hand... Aandi On Monday, October 20, 1997 19:54, D4169/Emily R. Jorgenson/X2515/D/B [SMTP:erjorgenson@lucent.com] wrote: > How about Acrobat author, or publisher? You're right, developer > wasn't the best word. But someone asked if I was looking for > end-user or developer training, and it certainly wasn't end-user. > > Emily > > > > With Acrobat there are developers (least in number), > > another group who create and manage PDF files, > > and the largest group of end-users or consumers. > > > > << File: ATT00005.htm >> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Oct-1997 20:02:32-GMT,7382;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14280 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:02:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA24522; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:00:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:58:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24372; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:58:06 -0500 Message-Id: <01BCDD70.D30495E0@wrpnm.wr.lucent.com> From: Regina Nunn To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobate Exchange question (pdf to thumnails) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:57:04 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCDD70.D30495E0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCDD70.D30495E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Both of you need to count to 10. No one wants to read the abuse caused = by either of you. Aandi, you had already given your response to the = question. The best advise is to just leave it at that. Now, can we all just get = along and talk PDF and stop bickering? ---------- From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] Reply To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 1997 2:24 PM To: 'pdf@lists.emrg.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobate Exchange question (pdf to thumbnails) I don't think personal abuse is called for, so I won't continue this = thread further. But it's worth pointing out why ignoring a response isn't a = good idea (it makes me extremely cross, but that obviously isn't important).=20 This information isn't obvious to everyone so I will post this reply publicly. With so many questions being asked, a lot of people don't bother to reply to a message which already has a reply. So you ask once, get a reply which is no use, and never hear any more. It is better to treat=20 these as a dialog, and explain why that solution won't work for you. Then maybe someone else will suggest something. Or even the original respondent may have a better idea that would have taken longer to type, but they will if asked. Have a nice day. Aandi On Monday, October 20, 1997 17:16, Louis Rosa = [SMTP:louisr@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu] wrote: >=20 > Aandi Inston wrote: > >=20 > > Each time you ask this (at least three times now, I think), I reply: > >=20 > > mkdir tempdir > > mv target/*.pdf tempdir > > > > mv tempdir/* target > >=20 > > or something like that. Doesn't this work for you? 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Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com CC: pdf@lists.emrg.com In-reply-to: <344B8FCB.D0920F7C@glyphica.com> (paknad@glyphica.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Emerge Extra Feedback Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Regarding the comments about Glyphica's "PurePDF" journal, here's a test: would Glyphica ever run an article highlighting a non-Adobe PDF-related product, its advantages and disadvantages in actual use, etc.? If not, I agree the name is misleading. If so, some of us out here would be delighted to provide some success stories of our own. :-) -- L. 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Peter Deutsch" To: michael_jahn@atla3.agfa.com CC: pdf@lists.emrg.com, mrauterkus@sportsurf.net In-reply-to: <9710201755.AD03692@atla3> (michael_jahn@atla3.agfa.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Why not a real Ghostscript-based PDF reader? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > If you think you can develop a robust, reliable product that does the > above with data verification to boot, I think someone needs a bit of a > reality check. A recent research project at the University of Wisconsin found that freeware utilities were approximately 1/3 as likely to crash or hang when presented with random illegal input as the utilities distributed by Unix system vendors. There's a "reality" data point that supports the proposition that independently written and even free software can be more robust and reliable than what the big vendor offers. -- L. 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Please check out our web site at www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Uschan [SMTP:uschan@omnipress.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 1997 8:35 PM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] security Looking for something more advanced than the basic Security features offered in File>Document Information>Security for a CD-ROM product. For instance, would it be possible to allow users of the CD the ability to navigate in one portion of the CD freely and yet have "document open" security on the other half of the CD. Setting each individual file in the secured area may accomplish this, but as a user, you would go nuts having to enter a password for each individual file. Is there something out there that would allow a user to enter a password only once to access the secure files for each new session of CD-ROM use? A person could essentially password protect say the secured table of contents that links to all the secured files, but a user could easily backdoor their way to the secured files by "browsing" the contents of the CD. Any thoughts are appreciated! 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Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:24:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA28096; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:23:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:15:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA27733; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:15:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710202113.OAA22956@proxy3.ba.best.com> X-Sender: paknad@best.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "D. Paknad" Subject: Re: [PDF] Emerge Extra Feedback Cc: editor@purepdf.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 01:18 PM 10/20/97 PDT, you wrote: > >Regarding the comments about Glyphica's "PurePDF" journal, here's a test: >would Glyphica ever run an article highlighting a non-Adobe PDF-related >product, its advantages and disadvantages in actual use, etc.? If not, I >agree the name is misleading. If so, some of us out here would be delighted >to provide some success stories of our own. :-) > >L. Peter Deutsch Hi Peter - Have you checked out PurePDF yet? If so, you'll see information on EnFocus, Quark, Verity, Netscape, Fujitsu and others ... I assume you do mean content which is PDF-related but not Adobe-made? The obvious editorial policy at PurePDF is that the content should be PDF related, not that it be Adobe-sponsored! As you may know, Glyphica is not a wholly owned subsidiary of Adobe Systems .... Every page in PurePDF states our interest in information, comments, and stories from users of all types and shapes! Please feel free to send your product announcements and articles for submission to editor@purepdf.com. Cheers, Deidre Paknad GLYPHICA Digital Media & Publishing Services Adobe Authorized Service Provider http://www.glyphica.com 650/428-1800 phone Check out the new Acrobat Magazine: PurePDF, The Acrobat Info Source on the Web. http://www.purepdf.com ............................................ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 0:03:33-GMT,2157;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20403 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:03:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA32559; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:01:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:57:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA32318; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:57:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199710202358.RAA22131@sportsurf.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Emerge Extra Feedback Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 20:08:07 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >comments about Glyphica's "PurePDF" journal, here's a test: Help me out here as I've got a foggy memory. (and imagination) Am I mistaken or was there a recent instance instance of a "PURE - SOMETHING?" -- Didn't that highly promoted vision of "Pure Whatever" turn into a - err, ,, ........? Or, Are we talking "Pure" as in PDFs that load for the clients and the monitor is nothing but a pure white screen? I think we've seen a few posts every month about those "Pure PDFs." Wow, that's cool to get a whole journal dedicated to this FAQ. :) -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 0:25:06-GMT,4460;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20863 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:25:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00480; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:23:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:20:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA00326; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:20:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199710210021.SAA27763@sportsurf.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Why not a real Ghostscript-based PDF reader? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 20:31:28 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: "mjahn" , cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Michael, Before I rip into your remarks (self-defense of ideas of sorts) I wanted to say, Cool Sig, BTW. >>Reason #173 to fear technology... >> o o o o o o> o >> .|. \|. \|/ // X \ | <| <|> >> /\ >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >> >> >> Mr. Asciihead learns the Macarena. BTW2, cool job title too: >>PDF Workflow Evangelist >>Agfa Division Bayer Corporation And BTW3, for all you out there in PDF land, I agree, with Aandi's remarks, >I don't think personal abuse is called for, ..... But that said, here goes a fun reply, in the spirit of keeping a thread alive. :0 The ideas and not the person are on the line below. --- Now, as to your reply to my reply -- without quoting too many unrelated points: You wrote: >I want a free lunch too. And free gas. > Eat more beans and you'll be half-way home! >Come now...Adobe only gave the free Reader to get this PDF thing jump >started...do you think the Adobe Stockholders are excited about giving >additional fuctionaliity to a freebiee? Yea. But, the thread isn't so much here as to put pressure on ADOBE or its Stockholders. I could care less about what they do, as in a sense, those folks were wise enough to make PDF an open standard from the get-go. And, FWIW, I do think that board-level folks at Adobe are wondering why and how things could go to another level with incomes and wide-spread use of PDFs. Sure. There is much more to this than us begging for crumbs from the Adobe board-room table. >If you want the product to grow, you need to put money into it...if you >want Forms, buy Exchange. >It is well worth the price. Perhaps yes, perhaps no. We've got FORMS in the Free Reader. So, to be clear, we're just talking about a FORMS data to disk writing implementation of some sort. >If you think you can develop a robust, reliable product that does the >above with data verification to boot, I think someone needs a bit of a >reality check. You mentioned robust, reliable and data verification. I didn't. Thanks for bring up those points however. FWIW, hose points don't seem to be key features of the Adobe Acrobat Exchange on my desktop today with regard to FORMS. I know I'll back-track on those words later -- if not sooner -- but point noted. What I'm trying to say is, IMHO, PDFs work in a robust and reliable way in a narrow spectrum of use. And, the goal/dream of PDFs shouldn't be NARROW use. But, that's where we're stuck. >BTW, I am not certain here, but I don't think they ever found the Holy >Grail.. > >*smile* Thanks for backing me up again. *smiile* Perhaps the map needs to be composed in a PDF Form Data format that saves to disk output. Who's got the keys? I'm not sure. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 4:27:46-GMT,1750;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA25481 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:27:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA06276; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:26:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:23:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06169; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:23:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199710210424.AAA16044@vw.ece.cmu.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: vw.ece.cmu.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Tool to extract text from a PDF file In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:41:50 -0500. <199710190141.UAA01335@everglades.binc.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:24:32 -0400 From: "Derek B. Noonburg" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Does anyone know if there is a programa, which runs in Linux, that can > extract the text from a PDF file ? You may also want to look at pdftotext, which is part of my xpdf package. It attempts to maintain the original layout of the text from the PDF file. Source code and binaries are available and freely redistributable. http://www.aimnet.com/~derekn/xpdf/ - Derek +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 9:33:38-GMT,2137;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01322 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA12432; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:30:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:27:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA12317; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:27:43 -0500 From: Nic Plum To: pdf@emrg.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 Subject: [PDF] Are there any better sources of info on use of Acrobat forms? X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:04:55 +0100 Message-ID: <877425393.2019970.0@nplum.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It's me again (I'm like Pooh - a bear with very little brain!). I've been playing with forms in Exchange. Apart from the lack of tools for making laying out fields easier e.g. alignment, the information on using the output once submitted is very limited. Does anyone know where I can find out more on how to use forms e.g. what do I need to do to use (capture) URL - encoded data? When should one use FDF instead? Is it possible to get the form data simply e-mailed to me in a way which my HTML- e-mail client can understand and without a degree in rocket science? etc. Something with worked examples would be nice to see what's needed. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Under this sod lies another...! Nic Plum Buckden, Huntingdon, Cambs. UK. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 12:50:40-GMT,1493;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04644 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:50:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA16484; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:46:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:43:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA16358; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:43:24 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:44:37 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: phil Subject: [PDF] RTF (help file) to PDF converter Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know of a converter that can take RTF files (marked up in Windows help format) and output PDF without losing the hypertext linking information? Even better would be one that could take help files and convert to PDF. Thanks, Phil Thompson +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 13:38:32-GMT,3093;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05635 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA18210; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:34:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:32:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18090; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:32:49 -0500 From: Christian_Stockmar@agi-imc.de X-Lotus-FromDomain: AGI@GBSNET To: PDF@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:32:29 +0100 Subject: [PDF] PDF Writer bug ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi! We've got a major problem with the PDF - Writer / Capture / Capture Reviewer: We're producing PDF's in ASCII- mode from scanned textpages in order to make them searchable as an attachment / OLE in our Lotus Notes applikations. We've tested it and it worked well - sometimes. We'd chosen the ASCII - setting in the Writer setting menu and -according to this- "Use PDF Writer Settings" in the preferences menu of Capture and Capture Reviewer. Anyway these settings don't have much effect on the produced PDF's. When opened in a Texteditor, some PDF's are in ASCII - mode but most are not (they seem to be compressed despite the writer settings). We think that successful ASCII-PDF producing depends on the file size or the file size or the amount of graphics in the processed image - something like this. Adobe itself hasn't noticed these phenomenon and told us that this must be a bug within the PDF- Writer. So here's our question: Can somebody tell us how to create PDF's from scanned Text-Pages in searchable ASCII- compression for sure. The story continues: Just to ship around these problems we decided to re-print the compressed PDF's (which should have been in ASCII- mode) with PDF-writer from Exchange. We've tested it and it worked well - until last week. Since that time the following error message appeares during our re-printing attempts (printing into (overwriting) a file with the same name as the source): "Acrobat cannot print to PDF Writer. Select a different printer driver." Why? It worked very well for two weeks! Can anybody help out ? She / he would save a lot of our nerves... We're using Capture / Reviewer 2.0 , Exchange 3.01 and PDF Writer 3.02 on NT 4.0. A lot of questions... Thanks in advance! Chris Christian Stockmar AGI - Information Management Consultants christian_stockmar@agi-imc.de www.agi-imc.de Germany +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 13:38:35-GMT,3339;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05640 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:38:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA18234; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:34:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:33:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18137; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:33:22 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 97 06:34 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com CC: editor@purepdf.com In-reply-to: <199710202113.OAA22956@proxy3.ba.best.com> (paknad@glyphica.com) Subject: [PDF] "PurePDF" & Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 After looking through Issue 1, Vol. 1 of Glyphica's PurePDF, I have to agree with the previous poster who felt that the PurePDF title was somewhat misleading for a journal primarily focused around Adobe's Acrobat products. Viz.: - The title at the top of the front page says "Acrobat information in context on the Web." It does not say "PDF information in context on the Web." - There is a large button that says "Have an Acrobat story to tell? Talk to the right people. www.purepdf.com" It doesn't say "a PDF story". Just below that is a very large button that says "Go ahead. Download it. Acrobat (TM) 20 million other people have." - Starting with the second paragraph, the description of PurePDF says: Browse through the white paper library or purchase a book on Acrobat or related topics. Learn more about Acrobat-compatible search engines, web servers, and scanning technologies. Find out who has announced complementary products. ("complementary" meaning "complementary to Acrobat") PurePDF is a dedicated focal point for Acrobat and digital publishing. ... PurePDF brings context and simplicity to the fast-evolving topic of using Acrobat software to publish documents. Of course Glyphica can call their publication anything they want, and as Deidre Paknad observed, they are not a subsidiary of Adobe; nevertheless, I would encourage Glyphica to put less emphasis on Adobe's Acrobat products and more on the wide variety of vendors and products working with the open PDF standard. (For example, I know of at least 4 non-Adobe PS-to-PDF distillation products, some of which are free.) I'm afraid that the current presentation of PurePDF furthers the existing widespread mis-identification of PDF and Acrobat with each other. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html Help stop bulk mail abuse of your mailboxes and newsgroups: visit http://spam.abuse.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 14:12:15-GMT,2581;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06384 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:12:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA19610; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:08:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:06:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19503; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:06:06 -0500 X400-Received: by mta itgw01 in /PRMD=landisgyr-mb400/ADMD=400net/C=ch/; Relayed; 21 Oct 1997 14:07:20 +0000 X400-Received: by mta "LSMS01.MUAS" in /PRMD=landisgyr-mb400/ADMD=400net/C=ch/; Relayed; 21 Oct 1997 15:17:29 +0000 X400-Received: by mta LSMS01 in /PRMD=landisgyr-mb400/ADMD=400net/C=ch/; Relayed; 21 Oct 1997 15:17:30 +0000 X400-Received: by /PRMD=LANDISGYR/ADMD=400NET/C=CH/; converted (IA5-Text); Relayed; 21 Oct 1997 15:07:19 +0000 X400-Received: by mta ITRZ in /PRMD=landisgyr-mb400/ADMD=400net/C=ch/; Relayed; 21 Oct 1997 15:07:16 +0000 Date: 21 Oct 1997 15:07:16 +0000 X400-Originator: Stefan.Kessler@STAEFA.STA.CH.landisgyr.com X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=LANDISGYR/ADMD=400NET/C=CH/;2129171621101997/A04891/LSMS01] From: "Stefan Kessler" (Tel +41 1 928 6255) To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Wrong PDF size after Distilling Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Autoforwarded: FALSE Message-Id: <2129171621101997/A04891/LSMS01/11BAAC111C00*@MHS> Content-Identifier: 11BAAC111C00 X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi I am facing the following problem. Some PS files I got to distill are created including scaling options (in the printer settings under Graphic). Unfortunately we have no chance to make new PS-files. Now when I distill these files the resulting PDF is blown up to 100 per cent again, that means that some of the upper part is cutted off. Is there any chance to make a setting to prevent that. When I print the PS directly to a printer I looks also ok. Thanks for the help. Stefan Kessler, Technical writer, Landis & Staefa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 15:05:39-GMT,5323;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07566 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:05:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21784; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:01:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:58:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21596; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:58:35 -0500 Message-ID: <344CC620.22D2@glyphica.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:11:28 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] PurePDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Peter - Thank you for your careful scrutiny and review of PurePDF. Certainly it was a valuable exercise for all on this list for you to evaluate and report back on the relevence of the name of our publication. As many know, a magazine is a periodical, rather than a one-time, tell-all book. We like to think there are MANY issues related to all-things Acrobat which were not addressed in Issue 1, Volume 1. (A bit of a truism, really.) Of course, your review obviously serves your agenda nicely: cover more non-Adobe PDF products. Sort of the obvious opinion from your perspective, isn't it? We'll make every effort to offer free, useful information to a broad range of readers in each and every issue of PurePDF. If you don't find topics which address your needs, send a mail message to the webzine! Let's take your feedback on PurePDF to a more appropriate forum than Emerge's list! Anyway, perhaps for your next exercise, you'd like to explain what "Ghostscript" has to do with Halloween, "Apple" and "Macintosh" have to do with computing, why Sun thinks programming languages should be named after coffee, or how your company relates to an ancient, Arab character (or Disney kid's videos)??! Cheers, Deidre Paknad Glyphica Acrobat & Web Publishing http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF, The Acrobat Info Source on the Web. http://www.purepdf.com ............................................ L. Peter Deutsch wrote: > > After looking through Issue 1, Vol. 1 of Glyphica's PurePDF, I have to agree > with the previous poster who felt that the PurePDF title was somewhat > misleading for a journal primarily focused around Adobe's Acrobat products. > Viz.: > > - The title at the top of the front page says "Acrobat > information in context on the Web." It does not say "PDF > information in context on the Web." > > - There is a large button that says "Have an Acrobat story to > tell? Talk to the right people. www.purepdf.com" It doesn't > say "a PDF story". Just below that is a very large button that > says "Go ahead. Download it. Acrobat (TM) 20 million other > people have." > > - Starting with the second paragraph, the description of PurePDF says: > > Browse through > the white paper library or > purchase a book on Acrobat > or related topics. Learn more > about Acrobat-compatible > search engines, web servers, > and scanning technologies. > Find out who has announced > complementary products. > > ("complementary" meaning "complementary to Acrobat") > > PurePDF is a dedicated focal > point for Acrobat and digital > publishing. ... > PurePDF brings context and > simplicity to the fast-evolving > topic of using Acrobat > software to publish > documents. > > Of course Glyphica can call their publication anything they want, > and as Deidre Paknad observed, they are not a subsidiary of Adobe; > nevertheless, I would encourage Glyphica to put less emphasis on Adobe's > Acrobat products and more on the wide variety of vendors and products > working with the open PDF standard. (For example, I know of at least 4 > non-Adobe PS-to-PDF distillation products, some of which are free.) I'm > afraid that the current presentation of PurePDF furthers the existing > widespread mis-identification of PDF and Acrobat with each other. > > -- > > L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com > 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 > Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html > Help stop bulk mail abuse of your mailboxes and newsgroups: > visit http://spam.abuse.net > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 16:18:12-GMT,3222;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09414 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:18:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA24730; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:15:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:12:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA24562; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:12:37 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <344CC620.22D2@glyphica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:13:52 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] PurePDF - 'Nuff Said! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 OK, folks, let's let Deidre have the last word on this non-issue over the name of their new webzine. As she points out, this is issue v1. n1, so let's please give them the courtesy of reserving any judgments about this -- or any -- *free* online publication for another time and place. People are free to visit the PurePDF site or not as they so desire, and if for any reason one finds it lacking for any reason, they can vote with their mouse (or keyboard). But the comments so far have taken them to task over a rather silly point, seems to me. Instead, why not welcome a new publication that has as its focus a narrow range of topics that are likely to be of interest to most here. Whatever they choose to call it seems to be their right as the publishers. If someone chooses to read *any* publication merely because of its name, then so be it. But it seems much more sensible not to judge a book -- or webzine -- by its cover. Particularly only by its first one. At Emerge, we welcome PurePDF to the cause of raising awareness about the growing applications and Acrobat software and the PDF file format. We expect it to be quite complementary toome of the likewise free editorial coverage we offer. Now let's get on with more meaningful discussions, please. tks~Kurt === >Thank you for your careful scrutiny and review of >PurePDF. Certainly it was a valuable exercise for >all on this list for you to evaluate and report back >on the relevence of the name of our publication. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ --> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <-- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.emrg.com/ ========================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 17:22:56-GMT,2980;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11140 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:22:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA26810; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:18:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:16:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA26697; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:16:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:02 -0500 From: "Claudia Brookshire" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Disappearing cursor in Form fields Message-ID: <88529E85114AD11193B70020AF7055A4@ijl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Max, I have been monitoring this thread since I am experiencing the same issue. Have you had any response?? Let me know, Claudia Brookshire ---------- From: Max Wyss[SMTP:pdf@lists.emrg.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 1997 1:30 PM To: CLAUDIAB; PDF List Posting; Acrobat list posting Subject: [PDF] Disappearing cursor in Form fields I recently encountered a weird behaviour of Acrobat Reader and Exchange 3.0 and Reader 3.0.1. I do have a PDF document with some Text form fields. Some of them are read-only, but some are editable. Two of the fields are multi-line. When I open that document, I do not see any cursor However, I can blindly enter text in the first field of the tab-order, and when leaving that field, the text appears, but only after leaving the field. In the next field, no cursor appears. Sometimes, I can make the cursor appear, but at latest when I reach the first mulit-line field, the cursor disappears again. Maybe, I miss some settings. Right now, I have a /V and a /DV entry, both containing either nothing, or a space. The expected behaviour for the second case is that the field gets selected visibly. Any comment is highly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------- + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 17:28:15-GMT,4406;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11246 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA27063; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:25:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:24:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA26956; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:24:03 -0500 X-Sender: gjw1@mail.infoengine.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710211458.JAA21613@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:26:55 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "Gaylin Walli" Subject: Re: [PDF] Loading PDF to web server thru firewall Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David B. kindly responded to my wildly uncaffeinated cry for help with: >Do these two products have a "binary" mode? If so you need to set them in >that mode in order to guarantee safe transfer of PDF files. When you used >FTP (successfully) did you set this into binary mode also? Netfinder allows you to choose separate modes for you binary files and your text files. I had the transfer mode set to binary except for text files which I had set to text. It might be that Netfinder is seeing text for PDF, rather than seeing PDF as PDF. Make sense? Fetch, on the other hand, allows me to specify transfer modes for text and for "other files". I suspect that the same problem with Netfinder happens here in that PDF is confused with a standard text file. David also said: >If you try and transfer PDF in text mode you'll *sometimes* get >away with it but not always. PDF relies crucially on byte offsets in its >cross-ref. table in order to locate PDF objects within the file. [....] Bingo. I think we've just pinpointed the error here. With the information from your comments above, I think I fixed it. Here's where I think I was running into problems: when I was copying my files previously (1) I was undercaffeinated. :) (2) I was copying many files as one entire folder. Using this method, Netfinder would ask me "Hey, for binary files, what transfer format? And those text files? What about those?" I carefully chose binary for binary and text for text. The original PDF files appear to have been translated as text, not binary or "other" files. Switching the transfer of the text files setting in both Netfinder and in Fetch to Text=Binary seems to solve the problem. >All of this also relates to sending PDF files via e-mail which has been >the subject of various threads on this list going back to Jan. 1996. >Here again you need your e-mailer to attach the PDF in Mime Base64 >- -- the mode that copes quite generally with "binary" material. With which I've only just recently been having problems. Sending PDF files to our other office using the Eudora Pro mail has worked in the past quite well for me. But yesterday I encountered one individual who simply couldn't read a PDF file. I sent him three different versions: AppleDouble encoded, AppleSingle encoded (a whim, I admit), and binhex. He could read none of them. Yet of the same three files sent to the person next to him using a similar machine, all but the AppleSingle could be read. I suspect the person who could read the files has something installed that the original guy does not. I'm reasonably certain their mail packages are identical and have the same settings. Lacking any ability to act as a Help Desk troubleshooter, what key question am I forgetting to ask him? Is it "Do you have ______ package?" X-fer? is that it? or something like stuffit? I admit to having nearly no knowledge of IBM/compatible programs outside the realm of what is widely available on the mac and unix platforms.... Thanks so much, both those of you who've helped on-list and off. Gaylin g.walli@infoengine.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 18:14:58-GMT,3271;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12320 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:14:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA28650; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:11:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:09:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA28537; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:09:55 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:11:12 -0500 To: From: michael_jahn@atla3.agfa.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Why not a real Ghostscript-based PDF reader? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >You mentioned robust, reliable and data verification. I didn't. Thanks >for bring up those points however. Yeah, I guess if someone is filling out a form, especially off line, for example, you kind of need something in the form that makes sure that they put a date in the correct format and stuff like that. So IMHO, it is a requirement, not an option. And I think that we will most likely not see that sort of functionality in Reader anytime soon. >FWIW, Those points don't seem to be key >features of the Adobe Acrobat Exchange on my desktop today with regard to >FORMS. Humm...I guess I was hoping to fill out my W2s off line this year, and have the PDF file keep me doing things right, and do the calculations so I can avoid using a calculator and H&R Block. That is how I think PDF and FORMS should work, but then again...I am hoping and praying. > I know I'll back-track on those words later -- if not sooner -- >but point noted. The possibly exsist...Lord knows I have guessed wrong countless times! > >What I'm trying to say is, IMHO, PDFs work in a robust and reliable way >in a narrow spectrum of use. And, the goal/dream of PDFs shouldn't be >NARROW use. But, that's where we're stuck. Yup. I am somewhat on the Narrow side of that fence...I want PDFs to be used in the Publishing industry as the defacto way we transfer color documents, and am hoping to get other information either Embedded or pointed at (in an FDF or PJTF) that makes it both reliable and trackable. go to www.jahn.org if you want more of my diatribe...I wont bore you here. I must say, my point was simply that Database-ish Calculations & Verification sorts of things tend to go hand in hand with when you have a digital form. Most people use CGIs to handle this in a live way...what happens when you want to do this off-line? I'll bet on FDFs Forms Plug-ins and Exchange. Thanks for the candid comments. Mine were not ment to be a sarcastic as they seemed. I will try to be more silly and less caustic in the future! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 18:40:51-GMT,2361;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12993 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:40:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA29722; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:37:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:35:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA29634; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:35:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDE58.8879C020.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader problems Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:35:44 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, October 21, 1997 17:03, Ulf Andersson [SMTP:ulf.a@dtp-tjanst.se] wrote: > > My Reader for win 3.1 do not work. > > I down loaded the latest acrobat reader for win 3.1 but have problems. > When trying to load some PDF files that work OK in the 32 bit version it > complains about weblnk.api. The cause is almost certainly installing Acrobat Reader 3.0 over the top of Reader 2.1. The default directories (C:\ACROREAD and C:\ACROBAT3\READER) are different, but unfortunately it does not prevent you changing them to be the same. The reason you get this error is that the name of the web-link plug-in changed from WEBLNK.API to WEBLNK16.API. You now have two plug-ins trying to do the same job. > I did remove it and tried again, then it is complaining about acrograf.dll. > What to do about it. There are probably all sorts of clashes between the two versions. The simplest solution is to reinstall Reader 3.0 into a new directory - or if you must use the same directory, completely delete or rename it first. Aandi Inston +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 18:56:07-GMT,4617;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13373 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:56:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA30219; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:51:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:49:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA30124; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:49:56 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971021114915.0074c19c@rudy> X-Sender: jerickso@rudy X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:49:15 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, Laura.Dietz@arcor.net From: Jennifer Erickson Subject: Re: [PDF] trouble with non-standard- fonts In-Reply-To: <41256536.0044D4A1.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Laura, The problems you appear to be having with Distiller and the Touch-Up tool may be due to the font subset (Untergruppe - subgroup) input by Distiller. To change this, try going to Distiller/Job Options/Font Embedding and de-select the Subset Fonts option. For more information, read about the limitations of the Touch-Up tool in the Exchange documentation. Acrobat3/Exchange/Help/Exchange.pdf Look in the Section titled Modifying PDF Documents/Editing Pages and Text/Editing Text (Windows and Macintosh)/Revising Text/Font Editing Guidelines -or- Jump directly to page 180 The documentation explains what types of fonts Touch-Up can revise and provides clues on how to get these fonts into your PDF documents. Jennifer Erickson Distiller QA Team Lead jerickso@adobe.com At 02:45 PM 10/20/97 +0100, you wrote: > > >Hello, > >There's a problem, when converting PS-documents, which include non-standard >fonts. (Non-standard-fonts mean, fonts, which doesn't belong to the 13 >standard fonts, adobe delivers with all their products.) > >We use the AdobePS4.1 printerdriver (which is recommended by Adobe) with >the adistill.ppd file delivered whith Distiller 3.0 to generate the >PS-Files and convert them with Distiller 3.0 for Windows95. The >PDF-dokument looks fine, but TouchUp, normal textsearch and search with an >index generated by catalog doesn't work. It seems, as if text has been >converted to vector-graphics, though TouchUp recognizes it as an >"Untergruppe" (the english expression may be subgroup). > >Moreover I found out, that the original Fontname "Frutiger Roman" is >converted to something like "MSTT31c....." (I looked at >File->DocInfo->Fonts). Then I threw a glimpse an the PS-File, where i found > >%%BeginFont: MSTT31c32500 >18000 VM? >0 228 2048 0 /MSTT31c32500 > (Frutiger Roman) (Bold) /TrueType 0 false > Type1Hdr >9E67EDC6F3DDB5..... > >.. and later in the code ... > >%%Trailer >%%DocumentNeededFonts: >%%DocumentSuppliedFonts: Frutiger Roman > >I tried to replace the name "MSTT31c32500" with "Frutiger Roman", but then >Distiller wasn't able to convert the document at all (maybe the parity >check went wrong) > >I thought about some workarounds which may work, but don't know how to >implement them: > >1.) If the fontname wouldn't be changed I could tell Distiller not to embed >that font (since it's installed on all our Computers, the System font could >be used instead), but there isnt't a font like "MSTT31c..." so, Acrobat >Reader cannot show any letters. > >2.) If I can add our font to the 13 standard fonts and tell the PS-driver, >that it's on standard-ROM, "Frutiger" should be handeld like "Arial", where >we haven't had any Problem with. > >If I convert a document using the PDFWriter I have non of these problems. >The fontname remains unchanged and it must be completly embedded, because I >can use the TouchUp tool. > >Greetings, Laura Dietz >Mannesmann Arcor > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 18:57:55-GMT,2665;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13410 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:57:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA30448; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:55:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:53:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA30325; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:53:50 -0500 Message-Id: <9710211808.AA19047@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] "PurePDF" & Acrobat Date: Tue, 21 Oct 97 14:18:28 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Cc: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I would encourage Glyphica to put less emphasis on Adobe's >Acrobat products and more on the wide variety of vendors and products >working with the open PDF standard. Whos "PDF Standard" are you talking about? CGATS.12/1-199x and ISO 12639 from NPES? This is the only document I have seen so far that is being submitted for ANSI and ISO as an accredited standard, and it is quite a subset of what is in the "Putty Book" (Portable Document Format Reference Manual, version 1.x) from Adobe. I think that one could call it a PDF file structure, but there will never be a PDF Standard, like an inch...standards are what contracts are made of and wars are fought over. PDF will continue to evolve as the markets change. Thank goodness! Remember 1.0? Lets face it, Adobe owns the specification, and even they had the wisdom to expand the specification By making it extensible. If Glypica is sharing ideas about how people are using PDF, thats great...but lets face it, more people are creating and using PDFs with Adobe applications than without Adobe applications. So it would follow that their would be more "news" on that. And thats a good thing. And so is GhostScript a good thing...maybe you could submit a guest article to PurePDF that helps us better understand how people use GhostScript? Betcha 5 bucks Deidre will run it! Michael Jahn +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 19:19:44-GMT,4755;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13952 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:19:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA31350; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:16:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:14:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA31211; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:14:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971021121415.007511bc@rudy> X-Sender: jerickso@rudy X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:14:15 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, callas@compuserve.com, prodok@prodok.ch, sgililland@nexstar.com, tm@muc.de, Laura.Dietz@arcor.net From: Jennifer Erickson Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? In-Reply-To: <199710201051_MC2-247C-CDEC@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To all interested - The following bugs/issues were adressed in the 3.01 Distiller Release - specifically with regard to this thread (upper ASCII characters in PDFMark code) #189724 upper ascii chars in PDFMark Begin original text of problem report received via e-mail (We do listen.) >I have upgraded Distiller from 2.1 to 3.0 on a Mac. My hundreds of >eps-files have annotations (and /DOCINFO) containing accents and other >diacriticals. In >Distiller 2.1 I solved the problem in putting the corresponding >PDFDocEncoding with a backslash and the octal code (from the table in >Reference Manual): for instance agrave is backslah-340. All was OK. Now >in 3.0 I get a space instead an agrave: very bad. The same for all other >diacriticals and accents and special characters. The pdf-file examined >with a binary editor has really spaces instead of those accents. > >No problem with accents in the PostScript body. > >I reread the pdf reference, the pdfmark reference - no hope. If I put >the agrave with Exchange, then OK. In the pdf-file the >backslash-340 is appearing as it should. In response to Olaf's message regarding character codes greater than 127, we are currently working on an issue related to this problem. The information regarding the fix is below. #229317 Bookmarks have limit of 127 for character code a length byte at the beginning of a string was being passed through a procedure interface as a signed byte, not unsigned, so 128 became a negative number, and a buffer copy routine was lost This issue came in from the FrameMaker team here at Adobe and has been adressed in a later release of Distiller. More info on this interim Distiller release should be published in the next few weeks. Hope this helps resolve some of the issue. If you have further questions regarding this issue, contact me. Jennifer Erickson Distiller QA Team Lead jerickso@adobe.com At 10:51 AM 10/20/97 -0400, you wrote: > >>Does anyone know which bugs are fixed and which are not? > >Adobe should know.... > >>Do even more >>mutated-vowel >>problems occur than the ones I know? (missing mutated vowels in the >>beginning of >>bookmarks-titles; missing mutated vowels everywhere in Docinfo) > >The mutated vowels problem has to do with ASCII codes beyond 127, a range >where you'll also find most special characters, accented characters and >the like. > >Once the problem has been solved for umlauts, it should also be solved >for any other special characters. (But who knows for sure?) > >Olaf Druemmer > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Olaf Druemmer >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 >Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 >D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com www.callas.de >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 15:08:08-GMT,1673;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07631 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:08:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA22027; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:05:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:04:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21910; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:04:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199710211505.RAA21519@mb05.swip.net> From: "Ulf Andersson" To: Subject: [PDF] Reader problems Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:03:19 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 My Reader for win 3.1 do not work. I down loaded the latest acrobat reader for win 3.1 but have problems. When trying to load some PDF files that work OK in the 32 bit version it complains about weblnk.api. I did remove it and tried again, then it is complaining about acrograf.dll. What to do about it. Regards Ulf ulf.a@dtp-tjanst.se http://www.dtp-tjanst.se +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 19:57:29-GMT,5523;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15069 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:57:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00215; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:54:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:51:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA00067; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:51:30 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971021195044.00936b24@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:50:44 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I can't tell from Jennifer Erickson's post whether these problems have been fixed in 3.01 or are still pending a fix. When something is described as "addressed" in a Release, I assume it's been fixed, but then the rest of her post talks about "future" versions. Adobe doesn't make these bug reports available on their web site, so without dates and current status for these bugs, I can't tell what's really been fixed. Can you please clarify? Thanks. Tom Thiersch At 12:14 PM 10/21/97 -0700, Jennifer Erickson wrote: > >To all interested - > >The following bugs/issues were adressed in the 3.01 Distiller Release - >specifically with regard to this thread (upper ASCII characters in PDFMark >code) > >#189724 upper ascii chars in PDFMark > Begin original text of problem report received via e-mail (We do listen.) >>I have upgraded Distiller from 2.1 to 3.0 on a Mac. My hundreds of >>eps-files have annotations (and /DOCINFO) containing accents and other >>diacriticals. In >>Distiller 2.1 I solved the problem in putting the corresponding >>PDFDocEncoding with a backslash and the octal code (from the table in >>Reference Manual): for instance agrave is backslah-340. All was OK. Now >>in 3.0 I get a space instead an agrave: very bad. The same for all other >>diacriticals and accents and special characters. The pdf-file examined >>with a binary editor has really spaces instead of those accents. >> >>No problem with accents in the PostScript body. >> >>I reread the pdf reference, the pdfmark reference - no hope. If I put >>the agrave with Exchange, then OK. In the pdf-file the >>backslash-340 is appearing as it should. > >In response to Olaf's message regarding character codes greater than 127, >we are currently working on an issue related to this problem. The >information regarding the fix is below. > >#229317 Bookmarks have limit of 127 for character code >a length byte at the beginning of a string was being passed through a >procedure interface as a signed byte, not unsigned, so 128 became a >negative number, and a buffer copy routine was lost >This issue came in from the FrameMaker team here at Adobe and has been >adressed in a later release of Distiller. More info on this interim >Distiller release should be published in the next few weeks. > >Hope this helps resolve some of the issue. If you have further questions >regarding this issue, contact me. > >Jennifer Erickson >Distiller QA Team Lead >jerickso@adobe.com > > > > > > >At 10:51 AM 10/20/97 -0400, you wrote: >> >>>Does anyone know which bugs are fixed and which are not? >> >>Adobe should know.... >> >>>Do even more >>>mutated-vowel >>>problems occur than the ones I know? (missing mutated vowels in the >>>beginning of >>>bookmarks-titles; missing mutated vowels everywhere in Docinfo) >> >>The mutated vowels problem has to do with ASCII codes beyond 127, a range >>where you'll also find most special characters, accented characters and >>the like. >> >>Once the problem has been solved for umlauts, it should also be solved >>for any other special characters. (But who knows for sure?) >> >>Olaf Druemmer >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Olaf Druemmer >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 >>Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 >>D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com www.callas.de >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 22:27:00-GMT,3788;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18890 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:26:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05034; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:23:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:18:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA04829; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:18:04 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 97 15:18 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com CC: pdf@lists.emrg.com, editor@purepdf.com In-reply-to: <9710211808.AA19047@atla3> (michael_jahn@atla3.agfa.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] "PurePDF" & Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Whos "PDF Standard" are you talking about? CGATS.12/1-199x and ISO 12639 > from NPES? This is the only document I have seen so far that is being > submitted for ANSI and ISO as an accredited standard, and it is quite a > subset of what is in the "Putty Book" (Portable Document Format Reference > Manual, version 1.x) from Adobe. I think that one could call it a PDF > file structure, but there will never be a PDF Standard, like an > inch...standards are what contracts are made of and wars are fought over. > PDF will continue to evolve as the markets change. Thank goodness! > Remember 1.0? There are de facto standards and de jure standards. PostScript Level 1 was and is an important de facto standard despite the fact that it is not and probably never will be a de jure standard. Adobe is to be applauded for having taken the trouble to publish the PDF specifications with the deliberate intention of making them precise and complete enough that they will work successfully as a de facto standard: the same was true of the original PostScript Level 2 Red Book and (I hope) will be true of the forthcoming LanguageLevel 3 book. Adobe diluted this situation severely by publishing "supplements" to the Red Book as they added features to their interpreters: I don't approve of their having done that. In contrast, Microsoft does not publish reasonable, independently implementable specs for RTF, for example: the RTF "specification" is a garbage heap of disparate and ill-specified features. You can't even get the Windows API spec any more without signing up as a Microsoft developer and paying quite a lot of $$. The same is true to a considerable extent of TrueType. To take an example closer to PostScript and PDF, H-P does not publish anything close to independently compatibly implementable specifications for their PCL languages. I guess different people mean different things by the word "standard". Perhaps I should have said "openly published, available without charge, well-written, complete, detailed, accurate, compatibly implementable specification". That, in my opinion, is a large part of what makes PDF valuable and interesting, and of why we're here talking about it. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html Help stop bulk mail abuse of your mailboxes and newsgroups: visit http://spam.abuse.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 23:14:02-GMT,6510;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19907 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:14:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA06592; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:10:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:09:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA06473; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:09:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971021160918.007545b4@rudy> X-Sender: jerickso@rudy X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:09:18 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, thiersch@env-sol.com From: Jennifer Erickson Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19971021195044.00936b24@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I apologize if my earlier message caused confustion. The first fix was implemented in 3.01. The second issue is fixed in our current build, which will be publicly available sometime in the near future. I cannot give more info on future releases. I don't want to promise that a fix will be available in x number of weeks if I can't be absolutely positive. Thanks for the feedback. Jennifer Erickson Distiller QA Team Lead jerickso@adobe.com At 12:50 PM 10/21/97 -0700, you wrote: > >I can't tell from Jennifer Erickson's post whether these problems have been >fixed in 3.01 or are still pending a fix. > >When something is described as "addressed" in a Release, I assume it's been >fixed, but then the rest of her post talks about "future" versions. > >Adobe doesn't make these bug reports available on their web site, so without >dates and current status for these bugs, I can't tell what's really been >fixed. > >Can you please clarify? > >Thanks. > >Tom Thiersch > >At 12:14 PM 10/21/97 -0700, Jennifer Erickson wrote: >> >>To all interested - >> >>The following bugs/issues were adressed in the 3.01 Distiller Release - >>specifically with regard to this thread (upper ASCII characters in PDFMark >>code) >> >>#189724 upper ascii chars in PDFMark >> Begin original text of problem report received via e-mail (We do listen.) >>>I have upgraded Distiller from 2.1 to 3.0 on a Mac. My hundreds of >>>eps-files have annotations (and /DOCINFO) containing accents and other >>>diacriticals. In >>>Distiller 2.1 I solved the problem in putting the corresponding >>>PDFDocEncoding with a backslash and the octal code (from the table in >>>Reference Manual): for instance agrave is backslah-340. All was OK. Now >>>in 3.0 I get a space instead an agrave: very bad. The same for all other >>>diacriticals and accents and special characters. The pdf-file examined >>>with a binary editor has really spaces instead of those accents. >>> >>>No problem with accents in the PostScript body. >>> >>>I reread the pdf reference, the pdfmark reference - no hope. If I put >>>the agrave with Exchange, then OK. In the pdf-file the >>>backslash-340 is appearing as it should. >> >>In response to Olaf's message regarding character codes greater than 127, >>we are currently working on an issue related to this problem. The >>information regarding the fix is below. >> >>#229317 Bookmarks have limit of 127 for character code >>a length byte at the beginning of a string was being passed through a >>procedure interface as a signed byte, not unsigned, so 128 became a >>negative number, and a buffer copy routine was lost >>This issue came in from the FrameMaker team here at Adobe and has been >>adressed in a later release of Distiller. More info on this interim >>Distiller release should be published in the next few weeks. >> >>Hope this helps resolve some of the issue. If you have further questions >>regarding this issue, contact me. >> >>Jennifer Erickson >>Distiller QA Team Lead >>jerickso@adobe.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >>At 10:51 AM 10/20/97 -0400, you wrote: >>> >>>>Does anyone know which bugs are fixed and which are not? >>> >>>Adobe should know.... >>> >>>>Do even more >>>>mutated-vowel >>>>problems occur than the ones I know? (missing mutated vowels in the >>>>beginning of >>>>bookmarks-titles; missing mutated vowels everywhere in Docinfo) >>> >>>The mutated vowels problem has to do with ASCII codes beyond 127, a range >>>where you'll also find most special characters, accented characters and >>>the like. >>> >>>Once the problem has been solved for umlauts, it should also be solved >>>for any other special characters. (But who knows for sure?) >>> >>>Olaf Druemmer >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Olaf Druemmer >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 >>>Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 >>>D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com www.callas.de >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >>>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>> >>> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Oct-1997 23:28:26-GMT,2306;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20202 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:28:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07135; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:25:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:23:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA07033; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:23:40 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:24:45 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Jonathan Bauer Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Writer bug ? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greetings from NYC: I had a similar problem and solved it - but one caveat, I am using a macintosh. I was scanning using visioneer paperport software and then converting to PDF using acrobat 301, capture 2.0 plugin to create searchable text. But it wasn't creating searchable text. Capture always failed. Same thing happened to me with fax files (global village 262 software, if that means anything to you). The solution: I converted the scanned documents to TIFF (just because it is a good lossless format on a mac) and opened in photoshop. Then created the PDF files from photoshop. Like magic. Everything works. Capture perfect and I have searchable files. I set the preferences in capture for hidden text because i like to have the original appearance for printing purposes, but it works just as well with the "normal" setting. So ... I don't know if this will work on NT, but I thought I would share this idea. Worked for me! No discernable difference in performance binary vs. ascii. regards, /jonathan mailto:jhbauer@akula.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 0:46:48-GMT,2707;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21863 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:46:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09662; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:43:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:41:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA09564; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:41:32 -0500 From: whitehouse@wharton.upenn.edu Message-Id: <199710220042.UAA17355@assets.wharton.upenn.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:38:51 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Details on PostScript 3 (Was: "PurePDF" & Acrobat) In-Reply-To: ; from "whitehouse" at Tue Oct 21 20:38:51 1997 X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 3.1.1 (Windows 95/NT)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Peter (and everyone else): Peter wrote: [. . .] > Adobe is to be applauded for > having taken the trouble to publish the PDF specifications with the > deliberate intention of making them precise and complete enough that they > will work successfully as a de facto standard: the same was true of the > original PostScript Level 2 Red Book and (I hope) will be true of the > forthcoming LanguageLevel 3 book. [. . .] Those of you concerned with the technical details may be interested to know that the PostScript 3 language info has been published by Adobe in a recent PostScript Language Supplement. It's kinda hard to find on their web site, so let me save you the trouble. See "PS Supplement 3010 dated 10 October 1997" at the bottom of: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/technotes.html Check it out. :Kendall . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kendall Whitehouse Senior Consultant E M E R G E KWhitehouse@pdfzone.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Associate Director, Wharton Computing and Information Technology The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania (215) 898-2742 whitehouse@wharton.upenn.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 1:59:04-GMT,3053;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23258 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:59:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA11770; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:57:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:55:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA11651; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:55:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199710220156.VAA15977@hol.hhs.net> From: "Ken Hutchinson" To: , Subject: [PDF] Disappearing TIFF Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:55:55 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've got a puzzle. I was creating a PDF from a PageMaker publication containing several TIFFs and a fair amount of text. Two of the TIFFs have clipping paths, and one them seems to disappear somewhere between PM and Acrobat Reader. It prints fine on my PostScript laser printer, but the PDF is always missing this one TIFF image. - The disappearing TIFF is in front of a solid rectangle drawn in PM - I moved the TIFF to another place on the page and it distilled correctly. - I left the TIFF in place and removed the rectangle, but the TIFF still disapears. - I placed the same TIFF in another pub, and it distilled fine. - I've tried copying {everything} to a new pub, but the TIFF still disappears. Based on the above experiments... it seems the TIFF will distill normally everywhere but in the particular area (upper left corner) of the page where I want it to be. Does anyone have any clue what's happening? Ken Hutchinson Community Graphics ---------- > From: phil > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: [PDF] RTF (help file) to PDF converter > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 8:44 AM > > > Does anyone know of a converter that can take RTF files (marked up in > Windows help format) and output PDF without losing the hypertext linking > information? Even better would be one that could take help files and > convert to PDF. > > Thanks, > > Phil Thompson > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 15:04:05-GMT,2712;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07968 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:04:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29225; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:00:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:53:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29010; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:53:55 -0500 Apparently-To: Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971022075437.0114c644@sd.cts.com> X-Sender: larryd@sd.cts.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 07:54:48 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: larry Whitaker Subject: Re: [PDF] Tool to extract text from a PDF file Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Several Adobe programs, such as Illustrator, will open a PDF file and let you "save as" to other file formats. At the risk of posting content a little too commercial, might be useful information to some here to know that only Adobe Premium VARs can sell sofware upgrades, Capture refills, and certain educational pricing. As you might suspect, DMD is an Adobe Premium VAR (so is Emrg, of course.) At 12:24 AM 10/21/97 -0400, you wrote: > >> Does anyone know if there is a programa, which runs in Linux, that can >> extract the text from a PDF file ? > >You may also want to look at pdftotext, which is part of my xpdf >package. It attempts to maintain the original layout of the text from >the PDF file. > >Source code and binaries are available and freely redistributable. > >http://www.aimnet.com/~derekn/xpdf/ > >- Derek >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > Larry Whitaker, President, Del Mar Data, Inc. 215 La Barranca Dr. Solana Beach, CA 92075 voice 619.259.7911 fax 619.259.1053 email: larryd@cts.com Web site: http://www.wp.com/delmardata FTP site: ftp.cts.com /users/sd/l/larryd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 15:40:44-GMT,3162;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08852 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:40:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA30539; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:38:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:35:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA30366; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:35:38 -0500 Message-ID: <019589D7ECC7D011A4170060976EA49925F53C@projhope.org> From: "King, Kathy" To: "'Don_P_Wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca'" Cc: "'PDF'" , "'Ventura'" Subject: [PDF] printing PDFs to LaserMaster Unity 1200 XLO Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:38:27 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Don, My PDFs are now printing. I took your advice and perhaps with the combination of installing Adobe's most recent PS driver for Windows caused it to work. This is totally awesome!! Thanks. -Kathy > ---------- > From: > Don_P_Wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca[SMTP:Don_P_Wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.b > c.ca] > Sent: 17 October, 1997 3:19 PM > To: King, Kathy > Subject: Re: > > >I've been printing with the Distiller driver and having > distiller > >assistant deal with it. I've sent my PDFs on to other people to > >print and they are able to print them fine. So I'm thinking it's > > >my lovely printer. These people didn't even get the rounded > edges > >that I get when printing to a non-postscript printer. I've > >installed the newest AdobePS driver just now, and I've been > >trying everything I can think of to no avail. > > I can see where this could be pretty frustrating! The only thing I > can > suggest is selecting "Optimize for portability (ADSC)" under the > PostScript options of the Properties menu of the printer driver. You > might > also want to select "Use printer defaults" instead of "Use settings > below" > for the graphics settings. For some odd reason, this seems to have a > critical effect when I'm using that driver to make EPSs from Harvard > Graphics for Windows. It doesn't make any sense, but might be worth a > > shot... > > All the best of luck, Kathy, and please do let me know how things work > out. > > By the way -- you wouldn't know of any email lists for Ventura, would > you? > I'm the only person around here who uses it, and it'd be great to have > a > resource like the PDF list on which to draw! > > Cheers, > \d > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 16:07:35-GMT,1987;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09609 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:07:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA31695; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:05:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:02:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA31559; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:02:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Decker Gary E To: "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] Conversion of Multipage TIFF files to PDF format Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:03:27 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have used Acrobat Exchange 3.0 to create PDF files from multipage TIFF image files. We have a large number of these files that we need to convert to PDF format. It is rather tedious and time-consuming to go to File, Import, Image and select the files one at a time (each one will be a separate PDF file). Is there any way to batch convert these files? Gary E. Decker, Information Services Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation 1550 Oxen Lane N.E. / P.O. Box 411 / Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 / Fax: (316) 364-4154 / gadecke@wcnoc.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 16:09:55-GMT,2351;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09646 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:09:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA31894; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:08:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:06:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA31719; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:06:23 -0500 From: Don_P_Wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PDF] Re: printing PDFs to LaserMaster Unity 1200 XLO To: "King, Kathy" Cc: pdf@lists.emrg.com, VENTURA-D@PLAZA.INVENTIV-EDU.NL Message-id: <9709228775.AA877535997@FINSMTP1.FIN.GOV.BC.CA> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >My PDFs are now printing. I took your advice and perhaps with the >combination of installing Adobe's most recent PS driver for Windows caused >it to work. This is totally awesome!! Thanks. Aw-RIGHT! I'm delighted for you. Frankly, I'm still baffled why I have occasional PostScript problems these days, as PS is such a standardized language. Something, somewhere, is putting its grubby little paws on the code going between the software and the printer, methinks... But, there are so many more variables now than there were, say, eight years ago -- variations such as PS Level 1 vs 2, cloned PS vs Adobe, and lord knows what things such as Win 9-to-5 and our LAN may be doing. I try to keep up, technically, but at the end of the day I have to get that document out the door. Once I found that using the Adobe PS 4.1 driver improved things, as did setting for ADSC and printer resolution, I stopped trying to figure out why. The rate of change in the PC world is accelerating, and I'm just a small cog. Cheers, \d +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 16:16:47-GMT,2004;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09819 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:16:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA32242; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:15:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:13:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA32120; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:13:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'PDF-L'" , "'acrobat'" Subject: [PDF] FW: Help Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:14:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >We got a query if we would develop a plug-in to Exchange that would take a >large PDF file and split it into several smaller files for ease of updates to >the WEB. The customer stated as an example that he has a PDF file of 500 >pages and when you update only one or two pages, you have to redo the entire >PDF on the WEB which takes a long time. He wants a plug-in that would take >the 500 page document and based on some criteria split it up into smaller >segments instead of him having to do the work. > >Is there a plug-in that does this already? Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems Voice: (813)572-2491 Fax: (813)572-2169 E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com >WWW: http://ais.atk.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 16:27:40-GMT,2791;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10112 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:27:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA00015; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:25:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:23:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA32609; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:23:33 -0500 From: vhhuston@switch.com Date: Wed, 22 Oct 97 12:19:41 EDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: re: [PDF] FW: Help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I don't know of a plug-in, but what we do when this is needed is to deal with the single pages. You can copy the changed page and make a PDF, then replace the one in the original large PDF. With a large number of page changes this can be time consuming. I guess you would still have to upload the entire revised file to the web. But a 500 page continuous PDF document on the web seems a bit large regardless of the need to revise single pages. Virgil Huston ------------- Original Text From: "Mera, Jose" , on 10/22/97 11:14 AM: >We got a query if we would develop a plug-in to Exchange that would take a >large PDF file and split it into several smaller files for ease of updates to >the WEB. The customer stated as an example that he has a PDF file of 500 >pages and when you update only one or two pages, you have to redo the entire >PDF on the WEB which takes a long time. He wants a plug-in that would take >the 500 page document and based on some criteria split it up into smaller >segments instead of him having to do the work. > >Is there a plug-in that does this already? Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems Voice: (813)572-2491 Fax: (813)572-2169 E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com >WWW: http://ais.atk.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 18:29:02-GMT,2820;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12968 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:29:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA04045; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:26:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:23:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03918; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:23:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199710221823.NAA03914@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Conversion of Multipage TIFF files to PDF format Date: Wed, 22 Oct 97 14:25:36 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Decker Gary E wrote the following on 10/22/97 12:03 PM >I have used Acrobat Exchange 3.0 to create PDF files from multipage TIFF >image files. We have a large number of these files that we need to >convert to PDF format. It is rather tedious and time-consuming to go to >File, Import, Image and select the files one at a time (each one will be >a separate PDF file). Is there any way to batch convert these files? > >Gary E. Decker, Information Services Analyst >Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation >1550 Oxen Lane N.E. / P.O. Box 411 / Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA >Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 / Fax: (316) 364-4154 / >gadecke@wcnoc.com Gary, Last week I was talking with the author of ImageMagick, John Cristy, and he tell me that ImageMagick currently supports multi-page TIFF to PDF conversion. I haven't tried the conversion but you can find the the software on: http://www.wizards.dupont.com/cristy/ImageMagick.html Following are some instructions from Cristy: The command would be something like this convert image.tiff image.pdf If the TIFF image is multi-frame, the PDF will be as well. Or you can say convert image-1.tiff image-2.tiff image-3.tiff image.pdf On better yet: convert image*tiff image.pdf Note, wildcarding works under all platforms including NT and Mac. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 19:21:21-GMT,2539;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14337 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:21:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA06566; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 14:19:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 14:15:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06331; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 14:15:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971022151158.008918b0@magma.ca> X-Sender: webbers@magma.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:11:58 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Andrew Webber Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing all even, then all odd pages In-Reply-To: References: <199710060102.TAA03617@sportsurf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 09:50 AM 06-10-97 -0400, you wrote: >Interesting point. I've also often wondered if running two-sided prints >thru a heat-set toner printer might leave a lot of toner glop on the wrong >roller of the fuser. I doubt that they were engineered for this; production >copying systems might be, on the other hand. I have a little NEC SuperScript 660 (Windows printer) that includes instructions for manual duplexing. I did it once, and it's a real pain. The leading edge is always bent after the first pass, so the second pass jammed more, and the manual recommends feeding the second pass one sheet at a time! I infer from this that it's safe (or are they just recommending the least-dangerous approach for the printer?). But for the amount of work involved, I second the suggestion of getting a duplexed copy made to save wear & tear on machine & operator. Or even a duplexed original straight from the PDF, which would also save the cost of the first set. ------ Andrew Webber [webbers@magma.ca] SGML Mercenary "Since 1990" P.O. Box 8676, Station T, Ottawa, Ontario K1G 3J1 613-523-3699 / Fax 613-523-6893 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 18:52:44-GMT,2077;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13585 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:52:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA05214; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:50:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:48:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05093; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:48:34 -0500 Message-ID: <344E4AB0.2AAC@acm.org> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:49:20 -0500 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf-l@emrg.com CC: johnw@xenosgroup.com, editor@purepdf.com Subject: [PDF] PDF White Paper - PDF File Size Optimization Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Given the number of requests I received last time the Xenos Group released a PDF-related White Paper ('Presentation Format Pros and Cons', last August), I though I'd notify the PDF-L a new PDF-specific White Paper is now available on the Xenos Web site. It is titled 'PDF File Size Optimization' and can be found at http://www.xenosgroup.com/files/files.htm. Comments are welcome and encouraged. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Director of Research & Applied Technology The Xenos Group http://www.xenosgroup.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.663.0353 "Dilbert is my life..." =================================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 22:55:48-GMT,3318;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19953 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:55:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA17209; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:53:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:48:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16923; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:48:15 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDF45.01871A20.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Launching external applications / Security Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:46:20 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I wondered when the first "backlash" would be. The problem with a security feature that can be switched off, is that unsavoury programs which seek to circumvent security can do it too... Most especially an .INI (or registry) setting to turn it off globally. You would turn it off so your presentation could proceed smoothly, leaving the user exposed to the "nasty" files from the internet. I did think about ways to avoid the message when it isn't needed and keep security, but I couldn't think of one. Aandi On Wednesday, October 22, 1997 22:41, Czajka, Mark [SMTP:mczajka@ags.com] wrote: > > Is there a way to disable this in Acrobat Reader 3.01? It's quite > annoying on a CD based product. I am launching a Foxpro Runtime > Application from a PDF on a CD. Is there a specific entry in > ACROREAD.INI that I can modify or add? > > -------- > > Launching external applications / Security - PDF files may contain > instructions to launch an external application or to open a non-PDF > file. To enhance the security of PDF files, in Acrobat Reader and > Exchange version 3.01 will prompt users with an alert before > launching an external application, an executable file or a command. > > The alert will say: "Acrobat is about to launch this application: " > [Application] "Allow this action (yes) or all actions to all > applications (all)?" followed by three buttons, "Yes", "No", and "All". > > - Choosing "Yes" will allow only this instance of this action. > - Choosing "No" will prevent this instance of this action. > - Choosing "All" will allow all instances of all actions, thus disabling > the alert until Acrobat is exited and restarted. > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------++-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 22:55:48-GMT,2408;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19956 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:55:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA17210; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:53:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:48:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16917; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:48:14 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDF44.FF44CB40.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] hidden forms Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:42:02 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I did this in my Hallowe'en PDF (http://www.quite.com/books/) I concluded it was something to do with the mouse over action, since I didn't see the effect with mouse up, but never quite got to the bottom of it. I did feel it was something to do with the user moving too fast and having too small a selection area, but it's a while ago now. Aandi On Wednesday, October 22, 1997 22:13, Czajka, Mark [SMTP:mczajka@ags.com] wrote: > > I don't know if many of you are using form buttons, but I tried some > with a new project. I have a series of text buttons on the left side of > the screen, when you move the mouse over one of them, I display a hidden > button/graphic which is on the left side of the screen. The customer is > complaining about the way the hidden graphic is displaying (the way it > wipes into view - several times, before stopping) The graphic was > originally a PICT image converted to PDF. Is there a way to fix the > display of hidden items so they are as smooth as a "Director" type > product, or are we just not far enough into the life cycle of the forms > capability yet? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 22:55:48-GMT,1691;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19957 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:55:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA17211; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:53:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:48:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16965; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:48:20 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDF45.03EAFAC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF White Paper - PDF File Size Optimization Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:48:17 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, October 22, 1997 22:35, Kurt Levitan [SMTP:kurt.levitan@tfn.com] wrote: > > Thanks for the White Paper. very interesting. However, I was a > little confused by the term Flate Compression. I dont see this term > used in the Distiller (3.0 win95) Flate is the internal name for the compression known as "ZIP". Aandi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 20:15:50-GMT,3000;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15717 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 14:15:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA09806; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:14:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:09:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09367; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:09:51 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 97 13:10 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com CC: pdf-l@emrg.com, johnw@xenosgroup.com, editor@purepdf.com In-reply-to: <344E4AB0.2AAC@acm.org> (sdpoe@acm.org) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF White Paper - PDF File Size Optimization Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I found Xenos's article on PDF compression accurate and well-written, with the exception of one statement: "Reductions in PDF file size cannot be achieved without some associated loss of functionality." This statement is simply not true for LZW compression, and for Flate compression it is only true to the extent that one thinks not all readers of the file will have Acrobat 3.0 software: I don't agree that Flate compression is "generally not suited for a consumer environment", because the Acrobat 3.0 Reader, like its predecessors, can be downloaded with no charge or license and is easy to install. I also thought the discussion of raster graphics size left out some important material. While the discussion of space savings from resolution reduction is correct for raw data, graphics data compressed with an appropriate algorithm does not shrink by anything like the same amount. I would like to have seen a discussion of which compression methods are most effective for which kinds of graphics, with some numbers showing reduction in size from raw data at several different resolutions. For example, 2-D CCITTFax compression is often extremely effective for single-color drawings such as blueprints or circuit diagrams. Thanks to Xenos (and to Glyphica for PurePDF, my previous concerns notwithstanding) for Web-publishing articles like this that will help guide adopters of PDF technology. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html Help stop bulk mail abuse of your mailboxes and newsgroups: visit http://spam.abuse.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 20:15:58-GMT,3000;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15727 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 14:15:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA09821; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:14:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:10:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09440; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:10:30 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 97 13:10 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com CC: pdf-l@emrg.com, johnw@xenosgroup.com, editor@purepdf.com In-reply-to: <344E4AB0.2AAC@acm.org> (sdpoe@acm.org) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF White Paper - PDF File Size Optimization Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I found Xenos's article on PDF compression accurate and well-written, with the exception of one statement: "Reductions in PDF file size cannot be achieved without some associated loss of functionality." This statement is simply not true for LZW compression, and for Flate compression it is only true to the extent that one thinks not all readers of the file will have Acrobat 3.0 software: I don't agree that Flate compression is "generally not suited for a consumer environment", because the Acrobat 3.0 Reader, like its predecessors, can be downloaded with no charge or license and is easy to install. I also thought the discussion of raster graphics size left out some important material. While the discussion of space savings from resolution reduction is correct for raw data, graphics data compressed with an appropriate algorithm does not shrink by anything like the same amount. I would like to have seen a discussion of which compression methods are most effective for which kinds of graphics, with some numbers showing reduction in size from raw data at several different resolutions. For example, 2-D CCITTFax compression is often extremely effective for single-color drawings such as blueprints or circuit diagrams. Thanks to Xenos (and to Glyphica for PurePDF, my previous concerns notwithstanding) for Web-publishing articles like this that will help guide adopters of PDF technology. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html Help stop bulk mail abuse of your mailboxes and newsgroups: visit http://spam.abuse.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 20:31:00-GMT,2449;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16047 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 14:30:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA10651; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:29:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:26:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA10451; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:26:52 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:29:56 -0400 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Conversion of Multipage TIFF files to PDF format Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I have used Acrobat Exchange 3.0 to create PDF files from multipage TIFF >image files. We have a large number of these files that we need to >convert to PDF format. It is rather tedious and time-consuming to go to >File, Import, Image and select the files one at a time (each one will be >a separate PDF file). Is there any way to batch convert these files? > There are several mays to do this; among other programs, Acrobat Capture will convert TIFFs to PDF. Converting them to PostScript using a utility and then Distilling is the usual approach. You could use PhotoShop's batching feature to automate this, then the rundir procedure described in Acrobat's Xtras folder. I also noticed a new program from Sysprint called SysTIFF that can batch TIFFs to PDF without using the Distiller: interesting approach as they say its faster. Info at www.sysprint.com Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 21:15:04-GMT,1908;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17261 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:15:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA12628; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:11:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:08:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA12486; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:08:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] hidden forms Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:12:47 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I don't know if many of you are using form buttons, but I tried some with a new project. I have a series of text buttons on the left side of the screen, when you move the mouse over one of them, I display a hidden button/graphic which is on the left side of the screen. The customer is complaining about the way the hidden graphic is displaying (the way it wipes into view - several times, before stopping) The graphic was originally a PICT image converted to PDF. Is there a way to fix the display of hidden items so they are as smooth as a "Director" type product, or are we just not far enough into the life cycle of the forms capability yet? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 21:17:09-GMT,1574;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17308 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA12732; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:13:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:11:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA12611; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:11:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] page open actions Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:15:06 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would like to do the following when a page/document opens: -run a movie automatically -proceed to the next page When I tried to implement this, both items occurred at the same time. Is there a way to sequence these items so they happen one after the other? Or does anyone have any other brilliant ideas? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 21:42:03-GMT,2326;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18062 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:42:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13916; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:38:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:36:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13757; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:36:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] Launching external applications / Security Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:40:49 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a way to disable this in Acrobat Reader 3.01? It's quite annoying on a CD based product. I am launching a Foxpro Runtime Application from a PDF on a CD. Is there a specific entry in ACROREAD.INI that I can modify or add? -------- Launching external applications / Security - PDF files may contain instructions to launch an external application or to open a non-PDF file. To enhance the security of PDF files, in Acrobat Reader and Exchange version 3.01 will prompt users with an alert before launching an external application, an executable file or a command. The alert will say: "Acrobat is about to launch this application: " [Application] "Allow this action (yes) or all actions to all applications (all)?" followed by three buttons, "Yes", "No", and "All". - Choosing "Yes" will allow only this instance of this action. - Choosing "No" will prevent this instance of this action. - Choosing "All" will allow all instances of all actions, thus disabling the alert until Acrobat is exited and restarted. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 21:59:10-GMT,3077;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18474 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:59:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA14682; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:57:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:55:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA14520; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:55:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:34:57 -0400 Message-ID: <0001CC5F.3038@tfn.com> From: kurt.levitan@tfn.com (Kurt Levitan) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF White Paper - PDF File Size Optimization To: pdf-l@emrg.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks for the White Paper. very interesting. However, I was a little confused by the term Flate Compression. I dont see this term used in the Distiller (3.0 win95) You also dont mention using Jpeg compression on images. Then there are the issues regarding font embedding. Kurt Levitan Thomson Financial Services kurt.levitan@tfn.com 22 Pittsburgh Street 617-856-2337 Boston, MA 02210 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] PDF White Paper - PDF File Size Optimization Author: "Stephen D. Poe" at internet Date: 10/22/97 1:49 PM Given the number of requests I received last time the Xenos Group released a PDF-related White Paper ('Presentation Format Pros and Cons', last August), I though I'd notify the PDF-L a new PDF-specific White Paper is now available on the Xenos Web site. It is titled 'PDF File Size Optimization' and can be found at http://www.xenosgroup.com/files/files.htm. Comments are welcome and encouraged. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Director of Research & Applied Technology The Xenos Group http://www.xenosgroup.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.663.0353 "Dilbert is my life..." =================================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Oct-1997 23:37:34-GMT,2627;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20844 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:37:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA19026; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:35:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:32:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18862; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:32:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199710222333.RAA25972@sportsurf.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Launching external applications / Security Date: Wed, 22 Oct 97 19:43:07 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mark asked: >Is there a way to disable this in Acrobat Reader 3.01? It's quite >annoying on a CD based product. I am launching a Foxpro Runtime >Application from a PDF on a CD. Is there a specific entry in >ACROREAD.INI that I can modify or add? > >-------- > >Launching external applications / Security - PDF files may contain >instructions to launch an external application or to open a non-PDF >file. To enhance the security of PDF files, in Acrobat Reader and >Exchange version 3.01 will prompt users with an alert before >launching an external application, an executable file or a command. Hi Mark, I don't know the specifics to your questions as to the code necessary to zap this warning for end-users --- however ---- I'd keep the warning as it stands. We've faced some of this in the past and warnings are welcomed, IMHO. Jumping from a PDF file to a non-PDF file by following a link deserves some thought and enhanced awareness at that instant from the client. Keep the warnings. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 0:13:07-GMT,7874;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21568 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:13:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA20353; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:11:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:07:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA20186; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:07:00 -0500 Message-ID: <344E9554.1137@acm.org> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:07:49 -0500 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf-l@emrg.com, "'L. Peter Deutsch'" CC: John Wong , editor@purepdf.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF White Paper - PDF File Size Optimization - Response to Peter References: <01BCDF08.B7285F20@MERCURY.XENOSGROUP.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 L. Peter Deutsch wrote: > I found Xenos's article on PDF compression accurate and well-written, with > the exception of one statement: "Reductions in PDF file size cannot be > achieved without some associated loss of functionality." This statement is > simply not true for LZW compression, and for Flate compression it is only > true to the extent that one thinks not all readers of the file will have > Acrobat 3.0 software: I don't agree that Flate compression is "generally not > suited for a consumer environment", because the Acrobat 3.0 Reader, like its > predecessors, can be downloaded with no charge or license and is easy to install. > > I also thought the discussion of raster graphics size left out some > important material. While the discussion of space savings from resolution > reduction is correct for raw data, graphics data compressed with an > appropriate algorithm does not shrink by anything like the same amount. I > would like to have seen a discussion of which compression methods are most > effective for which kinds of graphics, with some numbers showing reduction > in size from raw data at several different resolutions. For example, 2-D > CCITTFax compression is often extremely effective for single-color drawings > such as blueprints or circuit diagrams. > Peter - Thanks for your comments. I appreciate both your prompt review and your feedback. Let me clarify a few points you brought up. 1. '"Reductions in PDF file size cannot be achieved without some associated loss of functionality." This statement is simply not true for LZW compression,' I agree. Sorry, with our customer base, when I first hear the dreaded phrase 'our PDFs are too big', in every case (except one) to date, the customer was reviewing PDFs already compressed with LZW. So I took this as a given (although I should have explicitly stated such). 2. 'and for Flate compression it is only true to the extent that one thinks not all readers of the file will have Acrobat 3.0 software: I don't agree that Flate compression is "generally not suited for a consumer environment", because the Acrobat 3.0 Reader, like its predecessors, can be downloaded with no charge or license and is easy to install.' Unfortunately, for our environment and customer base, I have to disagree based on empirical evidence. We have received significant push-back on this issue from our clients and prospective clients, for two main reasons: a) In corporate environments, people are not free to simply download software and install it on their corporate PCs. In many corporations, this is a offense that merits termination. They have to wait until the upgrade is blessed by a central committee, and then wait again until the MIS or PC departments get around to a mass install. Even if they request the Reader be installed on a new machine, they will get the corporate-approved version, not the most current version. b) Several of our clients claim their internal studies of their customers still show a shocking percentage two generations back or more. This means 9600 baud modems, Windows 3.1, and 486s. These are not good candidates for assuming they will have the latest version of Acrobat (and more reasons for us to get hit with PDF size questions, given the slow modems). Most of our clients have both their own corporate users and their customers viewing their transformed statements, so we get hit with both arguments at the same time. I agree with you for a sample of, say, the readers of PDF-L, or geeks (including me!) in general. Unfortunately, to date, we haven't had the luxury of dealing with clients whose customers fit those profiles. 3. 'I also thought the discussion of raster graphics size left out some important material.' I agree. There is significant room left here for further experimentation and reporting, and I agree with each of your points regarding different compression techniques for different types of graphics. Unfortunately, I had to create this White Paper with a fairly limited amount of lab time. I'd love to do a longer research article, but unfortunately it's not something I can move up my todo list anytime soon. Table 3 offers one pair of data points - a change in resolution reduction from 240 DPI to 80 DPI (both with Flate) decreases the PDF file size from 53KB to 30KB (a reduction of 43%). I'd have to go back to the original test bed and determine how much of the original PDF file is graphics. This is another issue above and beyond your comment that the reductions I quote are only good for raw (i.e., uncompressed) data (true). How much of the original PDF file is graphics data and how much is text and PDF internals? This is another variable we have to consider with our clients. For example, if their PDF files are too big, and they have one small B&W graphic on one page, resolution reduction isn't going to help. If every page has several large graphics and not much text, resolution reduction will help considerably. This topic of graphics compression and resolution adjustment, unfortunately, has several confounding variables, including: (1) original raw data, (2) compression type, (3) relative size of graphics data versus text and PDF internals. These make for a very difficult analysis that is very sensitive to small changes in the initial conditions (in fact, it might fit one of the mathematical definitions of 'chaotic' in that the smallest possible change (i.e., one bit in the raw data) could produce very large, difficult to predict changes in the final results - another research paper, anyone?). Our experience shows we can't predict within even a factor of 2 or 3 what type of results we're going to get for graphics resolution reductions. We simply tell our client we'll have to test using their live production data and provide them answers based on the results of their tests. I'd love to see someone do the tests and produce the detailed results you inquire about - does anyone out there have the time to tackle it? Thanks again for your comments. Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Director of Research & Applied Technology The Xenos Group http://www.xenosgroup.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.663.0353 "Dilbert is my life..." =================================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 0:23:32-GMT,3357;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21773 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:23:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA20845; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:21:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:18:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA20681; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:18:18 -0500 Message-ID: <344E97FB.626F@acm.org> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:19:07 -0500 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf-l@emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Xplor Global Meeting Invitation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA20675 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To all PDF-L subscribers: A Special Invitation from the Dallas members of the Red River Chapter of Xplor International... To all members of the Red River Chapter and Southern Region!!! And to the hard working HQ Staff, the ABOD, the IAD Committee, the PR Communicators, and all other Xplorers who like to Twist & Shout! The members of the Red River Chapter of XPLOR International invite you to relax, kick back and DANCE!!! Tuesday November 11th during the Xplor Global conference in Dallas we are taking over Club Dada with Hard Night’s Day playing Beatle tunes from 8pm to 11pm. We know you are all working very hard and wanted to offer you a chance to come by, have a drink, and not have to think for a little while!!! Anyone over 21 who wants to come is welcome!!! Details: Red River Chapter Twist and Shout Party November 11 8 till 11pm Club Dada 2720 Elm Street Dallas TX 214.744.3232 No Cover Charge Cash Bar While no formal transportation is available, the club is in the Deep Ellum section of downtown Dallas and is a quick cab ride from most of the XPLOR hotels! See the Club Dada webpage at: http://www.clubdada.com and find great maps and directions can be found at : http://www.ondaweb.com/deep_ellum/dea_maps.html For more information please call Kathryn Poe at 972.857.0776 or fax 972.857.0979 I look forward to meeting all the PDF-L subscribers who are attending Xplor Global, Stephen =============================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Vice President & Meeting Coordinator Red River Chapter, Xplor International http://www.xplor.org - sdpoe@acm.org - 972.663.0353 =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Director of Research & Applied Technology The Xenos Group http://www.xenosgroup.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.663.0353 "Dilbert is my life..." =================================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 6:26:34-GMT,1701;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA28738 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:26:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA29580; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:24:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:20:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA29352; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:20:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9710230539.AC26387@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing all even, then all odd pages Date: Thu, 23 Oct 97 01:49:25 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , , "Bob Greene" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >But for the amount of work >involved, I second the suggestion of getting a duplexed copy made to save >wear & tear on machine & operator. Or even a duplexed original straight >from the PDF, which would also save the cost of the first set. >webbers@magma.ca Bob Greene might make something that could help you...not sure though... go to www.lantanarips.com Michael Jahn +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 6:26:49-GMT,1464;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA28743 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:26:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA29583; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:24:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:20:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA29330; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:20:47 -0500 Message-Id: <9710230539.AD26387@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] page open actions Date: Thu, 23 Oct 97 01:49:27 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , "'PDF List'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I would like to do the following when a page/document opens: >-run a movie automatically >-proceed to the next page I can do this with an "external" AppleScript..but it is Mac only *sigh* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 6:26:48-GMT,3741;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA28744 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:26:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA29581; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:24:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:21:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA29379; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:21:14 -0500 Message-Id: <9710230248.AA20159@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] trouble with non-standard- fonts Date: Wed, 22 Oct 97 22:58:09 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , , "Jennifer Erickson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >The problems you appear to be having with Distiller and the Touch-Up tool >may be due to the font subset (Untergruppe - subgroup) input by Distiller. >To change this, try going to Distiller/Job Options/Font Embedding and >de-select the Subset Fonts option. I certainly agree, but would add two thoughts: 1. Turning off Subset fonts but embedding all fonts makes the file bigger, as it incudes the entire font...I think disableing the ability to edit subset fonts makes sence, since you dont have all the character, how could you change a 3 to a 6 if no 6 was used in the document, and the subset did not contain it! A work around for documents that were created with subsetted fonts BUT you need to be editited goes like this: If you have the original font that was subsetted (like, in the case you mentioned, Frutiger Roman), while you are in Acrobat Exchange, go under the Tools menu and select the Select Type tool, select the type that you want to edit, and then go under the Edit menu and select Text Attributes, and change the font from the Embedded Font to the Font you have loaded on your system, make the change and then save. It is important to note that although this will successfully solve your problem, if you are sending this file to another computer or site, this PDF file now requires the other computer or site to have that font installed and loaded, as Exchange does not add fonts to the PDF document when you save...you would have to use Exchange, export a PostScript file and re-Distill. 2. I happen believe in setting subset at 99%. This renames every single font (except glyph fonts like Carta and the Adobe 13). I like this because of the fact that this forces Reader and exchange to use the actual font embedded in the document, vs a font that may have the same name from a different manufacturer that is open on the system you are viewing or printing PDF files from. Respectfully, Michael Jahn PDF Workflow Evangelist Agfa Division Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P 978.658.5600 Ext. 5504 F 978.658.7968 E michael_jahn@agfa.com Cell Phone 617.605.5716 Reason #173 to fear technology... o o o o o o> o .|. \|. \|/ // X \ | <| <|> /\ >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< Mr. Asciihead learns the Macarena. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 8:07:14-GMT,2094;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00457 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:07:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA32080; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:05:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:02:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA31978; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:02:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:06:08 +0100 (BST) From: "Edward M. Bradburn" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing all even, then all odd pages In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971022151158.008918b0@magma.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Then again, you could get a LaserJet. From what I've experienced with the current laserjet we own here, a LJ4M+, the build quality on the paper feed is very high. We duplexed about 5,000 pages some months ago, manually, by printing one side as normal and then loading the rest in, other side up, in the manual feed. Luckily for us, the manual feed took close to 40 or so sheets at a time, and in the whole print run, there wasn't one misfeed. It was still a long job though... Regards, Ed Bradburn **************************************** Edward M. Bradburn DTP & Production Centre for Continuing Education University of Bath BATH BA2 7AY Tel: (+44) 01225 323864 **************************************** +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 9:37:55-GMT,3171;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02177 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:37:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA01483; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:36:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:29:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA01264; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:29:50 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDF9E.A46A7BC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF White Paper - PDF File Size Optimization - Response to Peter Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:10:06 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, October 23, 1997 01:08, Stephen D. Poe [SMTP:sdpoe@acm.org] wrote: > a) In corporate environments, people are not free to simply download > software and install it on their corporate PCs. In many corporations, > this is a offense that merits termination. They have to wait until the > upgrade is blessed by a central committee, and then wait again until the > MIS or PC departments get around to a mass install. Even if they request > the Reader be installed on a new machine, they will get the > corporate-approved version, not the most current version. This issue is hugely important, and not just for Acrobat - it applies to browsers too. It is rarely understood by anyone not working in that kind of environment. Web designers are especially guilty of assuming people can download the latest browsers and plug-ins - even if they are offering a page that is mainly of corporate interest. It's easy to criticise the corporates for this stance, but it is actually about the only way to keep stability in a large user base of people who are not primarily computer users. PCs belong to the company, not the user, and few IT departments have the resources to come and fix up PCs so they work with the important software (company accounts package, say). A blanket prohibition on downloading and installing any software is something I would recommend and applaud. Unfortunately, putting browsers on machines makes it easier than ever for users to download all sorts of junk. And if they see an invitation on a web page, many people will instantly forget (if they ever knew) their corporate policy. This point almost never appears in books or other advice, which tends to embrace the new. I thought I'd written a warning but I can't find it now! Aandi Inston http://www.quite.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 14:34:43-GMT,1705;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07362 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:34:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA08859; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:32:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:26:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA08672; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:26:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCDFC7.CDE8C000@ppp127.enterprise.net> From: "OMI Logistics, Handforth, UK" To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing zoomed views (HELP) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:23:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greetings all: Sorry for the re-post... I got no responses... Does anyone know of a way to print zoomed or selected views using the 3.x reader? I am trying to print zoomed sections of PDFed CAD drawing I have looked at the Ariel 2 plug-in but this feature is ONLY available when installed to Exchange... Ideas anyone? Darryl Lucas, OMI Logistics, Handforth, UK +44 (0) 1626 532286 omihan@enterprise.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 15:07:51-GMT,2556;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08143 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA09922; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:03:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:59:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09681; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:59:31 -0500 From: nplum To: peter@antispampdds.demon.co.uk MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Cc: pdf@emrg.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: [PDF] Re: Idiot Question About Downloaded Fonts Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:32:11 +0100 Message-ID: <01bcdfc0$7e5bedc0$LocalHost@demon.co.uk.nplum> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yes - Aandi is on the spot i.e. the safest choice is the standard 35 but I still don't know what is include by default on the PC file. Thanks. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Under this sod lies another...! Nic Plum Buckden, Huntingdon, Cambs. UK. -----Original Message----- From: peter@antispampdds.demon.co.uk To: Nic Plum Date: 23 October 1997 11:55 Subject: Re: Idiot Question About Downloaded Fonts Could be wrong, but it seems that both Aandi and Berthold have mistakenly gone on about Distilling & embedding. I believe your question was more to do with what actually is embedded in the PS. (maybe I'm wrong) In case I'm right, what the Distiller PPD lists as available fonts are just the base 14 so e.g. Palatino or Bookman can be embedded in the PS and thus in the PDF. ---- pdds typographic http://www.pdds.demon.co.uk/ type solutions and web management +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 15:47:42-GMT,1534;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09125 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:47:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA11296; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:43:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:38:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11091; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:38:09 -0500 Message-ID: <344F6F58.4863@iclnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:38:00 +0100 From: phil Organization: icl X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] RTF (help file) to PDF converter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know of a converter that can take RTF files (marked up in Windows help format) and output PDF without losing the hypertext linking information? Even better would be one that could take help files and convert to PDF. Thanks, Phil Thompson +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 15:55:03-GMT,2470;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09390 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:55:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA11654; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:51:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:48:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11546; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:48:43 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <88256539.0056373D.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:43:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing zoomed views (HELP) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm not sure this will help, but... In Reader, if you zoom in, select TOOLS>SELECT GRAPHICS, select the part of the drawing you want to print, select EDIT>COPY, and then paste this into a wordprocessing program, you can print from there. I don't know of any other way to print the zoomed section. Sue omihan@enterprise.net on 10/23/97 07:23:54 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Printing zoomed views (HELP) Greetings all: Sorry for the re-post... I got no responses... Does anyone know of a way to print zoomed or selected views using the 3.x reader? I am trying to print zoomed sections of PDFed CAD drawing I have looked at the Ariel 2 plug-in but this feature is ONLY available when installed to Exchange... Ideas anyone? Darryl Lucas, OMI Logistics, Handforth, UK +44 (0) 1626 532286 omihan@enterprise.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 21:12:07-GMT,1844;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17384 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:12:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA21321; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:07:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:03:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21023; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:03:15 -0500 Message-Id: <9710231915.AB21345@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing zoomed views (HELP) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 97 15:25:52 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , , "Bob Greene" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Does anyone know of a way to print zoomed or selected views using the 3.x >reader? Bob, does your Crakerjack gadget work with Reader? > >I am trying to print zoomed sections of PDFed CAD drawing You may be forced to do this with Exchange, and I am not certain if you can do a "print Area" with CrakerJack ... Bob Greene might make something that could help you...not sure though... go to www.lantanarips.com > >I have looked at the Ariel 2 plug-in but this feature is ONLY available >when installed to Exchange... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 21:12:13-GMT,2201;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17388 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:12:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA21327; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:07:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:03:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21061; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:03:20 -0500 Message-Id: <9710231915.AD21345@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Disappearing TIFF Date: Thu, 23 Oct 97 15:25:50 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Based on the above experiments... it seems the TIFF will distill normally >everywhere but in the particular area (upper left corner) of the page where >I want it to be. Does anyone have any clue what's happening? What PPD are you using? We have discovered problems with some...me, I use Acrobat Distiller...if you are stuck with an already created PostScript file, maybe you can try fixing it with this little do-hickey... copy the below out of this email statusdict begin /setresolution { pop %<> setpagedevice } def end userdict begin /PSsetpagedevice /setpagedevice load def /setpagedevice {dup /HWResolution undef PSsetpagedevice} bind def end paste it into a simpletext document (or some text editor) save this file with a nice name like "sparky" or something... *smile* Place it in the folder named "startup" in the distiller folder Restart distiller +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 22:31:40-GMT,1747;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19147 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:31:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24341; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:26:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:22:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA24147; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:22:50 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCE00A.9E720AA0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing zoomed views (HELP) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:34:35 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >Does anyone know of a way to print zoomed or selected views using the 3.x > >reader? The fact that there are plug-ins which do this only with Exchange, but bundled with Reader plug-ins, suggests that this cannot be done with Reader. This may be due to the terms of Adobe's plug-in license. The license doesn't specifically forbid zoomed printing; but it might forbid something that is a prerequisite. Aandi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 23:26:52-GMT,3732;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20266 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:26:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA26176; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:21:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:16:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA25965; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:16:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199710232316.BAA05670@aralia.wanadoo.fr> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: Subject: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 01:16:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BCE01A.7BADF1E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BCE01A.7BADF1E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Do you know if i launch a file with a program, with a link in PDF file ? What is it syntax of this link ? Syntax under Word 97 (to create PDF = with PDFMaker macro) or Syntax in PDF file? Is it a link as : C:\windows\Wangimg.exe exemple.tif to launch a tif file (here "exemple.tif") with Windows 95 graphic viewer = which name Wangimg.exe In fact, i know that i can launch a Exe file (program) with a link in = PDF file, but i don't know how can i launch a program with a specific = file (*.doc with word.exe, *.tif with Wangimg.exe). Thanks Franck ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BCE01A.7BADF1E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 Hello,

Do you know if i = launch a file=20 with a program, with a link in PDF file ?

What is it syntax of this = link ? Syntax=20 under Word 97 (to create PDF with PDFMaker macro) or Syntax in PDF = file?

Is it a link as :

C:\windows\Wangimg.exe=20 exemple.tif

to launch a tif file = (here=20 "exemple.tif") with Windows 95 graphic viewer which name=20 Wangimg.exe

In fact, i know that i = can launch a Exe=20 file (program) with a link in PDF file, but i don't know how can i = launch a=20 program with a specific file (*.doc with word.exe, *.tif with=20 Wangimg.exe).

Thanks

Franck ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BCE01A.7BADF1E0-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Oct-1997 1:55:07-GMT,2218;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23339 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 19:55:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA30013; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:51:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:47:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA29892; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:47:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 01:48:57 GMT X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971021160918.007545b4@rudy> References: <2.2.32.19971021195044.00936b24@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Bug in Distiller 3.0? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jennifer, thanks for letting us know about those bug fixes. Can you tell us in which form the fix will be available (downloadable patcher, CD-ROM, ...) Thanks a lot in advance. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com ______________ >I apologize if my earlier message caused confustion. >The first fix was implemented in 3.01. >The second issue is fixed in our current build, which will be publicly >available sometime in the near future. >I cannot give more info on future releases. I don't want to promise that a >fix will be available in x number of weeks if I can't be absolutely positive. > >Thanks for the feedback. > >Jennifer Erickson >Distiller QA Team Lead >jerickso@adobe.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Oct-1997 7:04:10-GMT,2141;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29222 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 01:04:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA04620; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 02:01:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Oct 1997 01:56:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA04455; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 01:56:17 -0500 X-Mailer: BeyondMail for Windows/SMTP 3.0 Beta Build 1-21-97 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-Id: Conversation-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:55:48 +0100 Subject: [PDF] Form Field, Keyword field and Scan From: "Marco Squintani" To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hallo, nice to hear you again... Some question about Exchange (probably also ADK): 1) Is it possible to fill a form field and transfer its content into a keyword field (one of the general documenti infos) ? 2) Is it possible to fill a form field and to save automatically the PDF file with the name equal to the content of the field ? 3) The Scan 2.0 software may be added as advanced plug-in instead of the Scan 1.0 included with Acrobat Exchange ? All the answers give the right to the sender to keep all my thanks... """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Oct-1997 10:21:28-GMT,1985;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02880 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 04:21:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA09117; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 05:18:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Oct 1997 05:16:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA09017; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 05:16:06 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCE06E.42701F80.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:29:33 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Friday, October 24, 1997 00:17, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > Do you know if i launch a file with a program, with a link in PDF file ? > In fact, i know that i can launch a Exe file (program) with a link in PDF file, but i don't know how can i launch a program with a specific file (*.doc with word.exe, *.tif with Wangimg.exe). Microsoft want you to think in terms of documents, not programs. So, just set up a link to FILENAME.TIF. Provided you have a program associated with the TIF extension Windows will take care of the rest. (Acrobat 3.01 will put out a warning message first). Aandi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Oct-1997 13:30:09-GMT,2341;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06121 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA14818; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:27:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:25:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14719; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:24:58 -0500 Apparently-To: Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971024062549.012218f4@sd.cts.com> X-Sender: larryd@sd.cts.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:25:54 -0700 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: larry Whitaker Subject: [PDF] Re: Xrays as PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All, We have recently discovered that Acrobat PDF is a great way to store and view Xrays. We have had fantastic results scanning film to high resolution grayscale TIFF images and then importing those to PDF with Capture. The resulting image is often reduced in size to a fraction-- one example 14MB TIFF was only a 60KB PDF, small enough to attach to an email. Radiologists have seen these images using the Reader or Exchange viewer and been quite impressed-- the images seem to be at least as good as the medical viewers they use for teleradiology. There are potential legal problems in the medical field, but none in engineering-- where Xrays are used and stored for QA/QC, etc. etc. If you have engineering customers storing Xray film-- this could be huge market for conversion to PDF. Larry Whitaker, President, Del Mar Data, Inc. 215 La Barranca Dr. Solana Beach, CA 92075 voice 619.259.7911 fax 619.259.1053 email: larryd@cts.com Web site: http://www.wp.com/delmardata FTP site: ftp.cts.com /users/sd/l/larryd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Oct-1997 14:39:28-GMT,4101;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07882 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:39:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA16891; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:36:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:34:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16733; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:34:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3450B3CE.61B29261@avenza.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:42:23 -0400 From: Ted Florence Organization: ODM Technologies Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, larry@cts.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Xrays as PDF X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0.32.19971024062549.012218f4@sd.cts.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Mr. Whitaker, I saw your posting as referenced below and am quite enthused about it. As a company, Avenza has developed a special technology for building a database into pdf files and we have been working on the xray and general diagnostic imaging applications, as well as others. As such we are well aware of the xray in pdf benefits. What we have achieved with our JAMBuddy technology is the ability to not only covert the xray to pdf but to embed an infinite amount of information behind the xray and include it as ONE searchable and queriable image document. Examples of the potential include patient name, id#, insurance no., mediaction, diagnosis etc. All the information and data can be accessed with Acrobat. I encourage you to visit our website at www.avenza.com for more information and examples of what we have done and more specifically, the JAMBuddy page at www.avenza.com/JAMBuddy.html Finally, if you have an example of a pdf xray document I would be very much obliged if you would email a copy to me. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Sincerely, Edward Florence larry Whitaker wrote: > Hi All, > > We have recently discovered that Acrobat PDF is a great way to store > and > view Xrays. > > We have had fantastic results scanning film to high resolution > grayscale > TIFF images and then importing those to PDF with Capture. The > resulting > image is often reduced in size to a fraction-- one example 14MB TIFF > was > only a 60KB PDF, small enough to attach to an email. > > Radiologists have seen these images using the Reader or Exchange > viewer and > been quite impressed-- the images seem to be at least as good as the > medical viewers they use for teleradiology. > > There are potential legal problems in the medical field, but none in > engineering-- where Xrays are used and stored for QA/QC, etc. etc. If > you > have engineering customers storing Xray film-- this could be huge > market > for conversion to PDF. > > Larry Whitaker, President, Del Mar Data, Inc. > 215 La Barranca Dr. Solana Beach, CA 92075 > voice 619.259.7911 fax 619.259.1053 > email: larryd@cts.com > Web site: http://www.wp.com/delmardata > FTP site: ftp.cts.com /users/sd/l/larryd > +---------------------------------------- > --------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Ted Florence ted@avenza.com Avenza Software Developers of MAPublisher & CADpublisher Visit http://www.avenza.com Download FREE Software for quality mapping on the Internet +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Oct-1997 21:03:47-GMT,1583;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17190 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:03:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20736; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:58:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:53:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20527; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:53:31 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'PDF listserve Post'" Subject: [PDF] PDF bundle with FM 5.5 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:57:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is it true that... Future upgrades to Acrobat (in FM 5.5 bundle) will not be covered by regular maintenance upgrades (patches and point releases) for FrameMaker? So - they give it to us once then we have to buy it from then on? Or, at least pay a nominal upgrade charge? rebecca +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Oct-1997 22:22:27-GMT,2342;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00650 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:22:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA31401; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:18:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:15:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA31286; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:15:48 -0500 Message-ID: <34511D56.7312@tamu.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:12:39 -0500 From: Bill Watson Organization: agcom X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] post script to html. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Could someone out there please send me the magic it would take to convert postscript to HTML. Seriously, We are a print publications unit that now also posts electronically. I maintain our web collection of educational mtls. in pdf (800+-). Pdf fits seamlesly into our production process. Problem solved? No. Once in our site an average person can easily browse to documents of interest, but the pdf blind search/marketing engines cannot alert users about our site. Our relatively small site only appears to the commercial engines as the 30 or so HTML pages that list and link to all the titles. We cannot afford nor does our site warrant a Verity-like solution hence my call for the above mentioned MAGIC. I realize html and pdf are different animals with different jobs and the philisophical discussion is ongoing. I am trying to overcome a visibility problem that has resulted from my buy in to pdf. Please forgive any ignorance my comments may have revealed and help me if you will. Thank you, Bill Watson http://agcomwww.tamu.edu/agcom/publish/extpubs/start.htm +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Oct-1997 0:15:36-GMT,1929;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03765 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 18:15:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01853; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 19:12:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Oct 1997 19:07:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01682; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 19:07:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199710250007.TAA01678@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Postscript to HTML Date: Sat, 25 Oct 97 02:03:42 -0000 x-sender: poporinett@orinett.no x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: "Bill Watson" , "pdf" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA01679 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Bill Watson wrote: >Could someone out there please send me the magic it would take to >Aconvert postscript to HTML . . . Hi Bill I saw that Iceni Technology (http://www.iceni.com/) is posting a beta version of a plug-in to Exchange that extracts text from PDF documents. Would that be of any help? Appearantly they are shipping a plug-in that handles images in not to long as well (doesn´t look like they are planning a plug-in that integrates both, for the time being). Regards, Richard Taubo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Oct-1997 17:23:09-GMT,3150;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20599 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:23:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA22535; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:19:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:13:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA22315; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:13:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199710251716.TAA01796@tamaya.wanadoo.fr> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: Cc: "Aandi Inston" Subject: Re: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:13:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks a lot I have another question. I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this soft under VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : link = "Soft.exe hello" Under VB5 by the command a$=command$, the variable a$ means "hello". But it is something i can not do either from acrobat or from any other html page. It is a general problem of link, which does not accept any argument after the name of the program to launch. thanks a lot Franck -----Message d'origine----- De : Aandi Inston À : pdf@lists.emrg.com Date : vendredi 24 octobre 1997 12:55 Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > > >On Friday, October 24, 1997 00:17, Franck Filhoulaud >[SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > >> Do you know if i launch a file with a program, with a link in PDF file ? > >> In fact, i know that i can launch a Exe file (program) with a link in PDF >file, but i don't know how can i launch a program with a specific file >(*.doc with word.exe, *.tif with Wangimg.exe). > >Microsoft want you to think in terms of documents, not programs. >So, just set up a link to FILENAME.TIF. >Provided you have a program associated with the TIF extension >Windows will take care of the rest. > >(Acrobat 3.01 will put out a warning message first). > >Aandi >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Oct-1997 2:05:41-GMT,1957;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29119 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:05:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01105; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:02:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:57:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA00733; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:56:58 -0500 From: HEP2@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <971025215728_241892362@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Postscript to HTML Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In a message dated 10/25/97 2:23:23 AM, you wrote: >Bill Watson wrote: > > >>Could someone out there please send me the magic it would take to >>Aconvert postscript to HTML . . . If you have a Macintosh this should be fairly simple. There is a program called Myrmidon from Terry Morse Software (http://www.terrymorse.com, email: tmorse@terrymorse.com) what will convert any document you send to print to an HTML file. I just got the software in, but haven't used it yet. The back of the box reads:"Some tools aid in HTML conversion, but they can lose document formatting during conversion. Or, they're limited to use with a specific application. Myrmidon, on the other hand, preserves the formatting and style of the original document and works with any application that has a "Print" command." Good luck. --Yvette +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Oct-1997 5:36:53-GMT,1749;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA25715 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:36:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA03403; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 23:32:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Oct 1997 23:17:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA03061; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 23:17:30 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 97 21:18 PST From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com CC: bs-watson@tamu.edu, pdf@lists.emrg.com In-reply-to: <199710250007.TAA01678@everglades.binc.net> (ort@orinett.no) Subject: Re: [PDF] Postscript to HTML Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I took a quick look at the Iceni demo and it did a so-so job on a complex document. The friend who demo'ed it to me says it does a good job on less complex material. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html Help stop bulk mail abuse of your mailboxes and newsgroups: visit http://spam.abuse.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Oct-1997 13:19:54-GMT,1643;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03830 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 06:19:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA12549; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:14:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:09:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA12408; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:09:31 -0600 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <8525653D.00475C55.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:05:02 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Separating a PDF file Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a plug-in program out there that can separate a PDF file into smaller PDF files? I would like to be able to break a PDF file based on a logical criteria, not just break it by the number of pages. For example, I want to separate a PDF file based on the first level section heading which always starts with 1., 2., 3., ... at the begining of a page. Thanks, Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Oct-1997 14:39:01-GMT,2177;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05234 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:39:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA15078; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:33:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:27:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14844; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:27:36 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] form field flickering Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:32:06 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a short term improvement to the display of hidden field graphics. As many of you know, when you display hidden graphics, depending on the background, you will get a nasty background flickering behind the hidden field before the graphic displays. My button field graphic was a PICT converted to PDF (and them placed as a hidden button field). I used Corel Photopaint 7 to convert the graphic into a Quicktime Movie. I setup the movie on the page with NO poster. When you enter another field area on the page, I set the movie to play, when you exit the field, I set the movie to stop. Believe it or not, there is an improvement when the graphic initially displays. > ________The One-Off CD Shops - Washington, DC > _________________4590 Graphics Drive > _______________White Plains, MD 20695 > __________(301) 870-0480 or (800) 678-8760 > ________Internet: http://www.oneoffcd.ags.com > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Oct-1997 16:57:07-GMT,2470;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08504 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:57:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19374; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:51:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:46:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19124; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:46:24 -0600 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:48:29 -0500 From: "Ernest M. Scalzetti" Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF x-rays X-Sender: scalzete@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <3.0.3.32.19971027114829.006d73fc@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Larry Whitaker wrote: >We have recently discovered that Acrobat PDF is a great way to store and >view Xrays. > >We have had fantastic results scanning film to high resolution grayscale >TIFF images and then importing those to PDF with Capture. The resulting >image is often reduced in size to a fraction-- one example 14MB TIFF was >only a 60KB PDF, small enough to attach to an email. > > Perhaps somebody can explain this. My understanding is that PDF can serve as a "wrapper" for TIFF images, allowing more universal display of disparate flavors of TIFF. I can also see how image compression can reduce the file size; however, lossless compression of x-rays can get you only a 2x to 4x reduction in size, and even the best lossy schemes (e.g. wavelets) can get you a 20x to 80x reduction (depending on the type of image) before degradation becomes noticeable. How can conversion to PDF allow a >200x reduction in file size without substantial sacrifice of quality? Ernest Scalzetti MD scalzete@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu We can do no great thing, only small things with great love. - Mother Teresa +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Oct-1997 17:47:35-GMT,1584;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09887 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:47:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA21055; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:42:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:38:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA20907; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:38:34 -0600 From: Billcatmic@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:39:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971027123942_1268773101@mrin42.mail.aol.com> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF files for C,D&E size paper Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know of a way to create PDF files that require large format paper (C size and above)? Distiller Assistant seems to have a maximum paper size of 'B' and we don't have a postscript print driver that will create a .PS file for a larger paper size. We are using NT 4.0 and if we could find a print driver that handles large format paper, we might have a chance. Thanks in advance, bill curtis billcatmic@aol.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Oct-1997 18:07:53-GMT,3232;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10467 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:07:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA22068; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:04:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:59:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA21693; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:59:37 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971027094849.0121f24c@sd.cts.com> X-Sender: larryd@sd.cts.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:01:31 -0800 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: larry Whitaker Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDF x-rays Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 11:48 AM 10/27/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Larry Whitaker wrote: > >>We have recently discovered that Acrobat PDF is a great way to store and >>view Xrays. >> >>We have had fantastic results scanning film to high resolution grayscale >>TIFF images and then importing those to PDF with Capture. The resulting >>image is often reduced in size to a fraction-- one example 14MB TIFF was >>only a 60KB PDF, small enough to attach to an email. >> >> > >Perhaps somebody can explain this. My understanding is that PDF can serve >as a "wrapper" for TIFF images, allowing more universal display of >disparate flavors of TIFF. I can also see how image compression can reduce >the file size; however, lossless compression of x-rays can get you only a >2x to 4x reduction in size, and even the best lossy schemes (e.g. wavelets) >can get you a 20x to 80x reduction (depending on the type of image) before >degradation becomes noticeable. How can conversion to PDF allow a >200x >reduction in file size without substantial sacrifice of quality? > >Ernest Scalzetti MD > > >scalzete@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu Hi Earnest, Don't know how it does it-- but you certainly can't argue with the results. You can see sample Xray PDFs if you want me to attach a sample Xray PDF image to an email. I hesitate to attach any file to a posting here because it goes to all subscribers; I hate to receive unsolicited file attachments. I have sent that file to several in the last few days and all are dazzled by the quality-- . I have seen teleradiology images in a local "Nightowl" center where a Radiologist reads MRI, XRays, CTS scans, etc. all evening and faxes back preliminary findings. The PDF view of Xrays is as good as any I saw there. Larry Whitaker, President, Del Mar Data, Inc. 215 La Barranca Dr. Solana Beach, CA 92075 voice 619.259.7911 fax 619.259.1053 email: larryd@cts.com Web site: http://www.wp.com/delmardata FTP site: ftp.cts.com /users/sd/l/larryd +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Oct-1997 21:53:19-GMT,3032;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16336 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:53:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA30610; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:50:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:47:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA30396; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:47:22 -0600 Message-Id: <9710272048.AB13743@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDF x-rays Date: Mon, 27 Oct 97 16:58:44 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , , "Gary Cosimini" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Perhaps somebody can explain this. My understanding is that PDF can serve >as a "wrapper" for TIFF images, allowing more universal display of >disparate flavors of TIFF. Actuually, this is sort of true and no...like when you print a page that contains tiff files (possibly different types of tiff files in a singe page) the application creates PostScript, which of course "encapulates" the tiff file(s) and the an interpreter translates this into something that can mark paper... Adobe Acrobat Distiller does more or less the same thing, with two major dirrences...it "changes" the tiff images into a different binary data structure in such a way that can displayed on any platform via Adobe Acrobat Reader or Exchange...the compress them in three ways..one by describing them in Binary (lossless) , another by using adjustable amounts of jpeg (lossy) that can applied at all images, even different types of tiffs in the same page... >I can also see how image compression can reduce >the file size; however, lossless compression of x-rays can get you only a >2x to 4x reduction in size, and even the best lossy schemes (e.g. wavelets) Distiller does not "create" this sort of compression, and I am certain that if you applied this type of compression to an image, this wavlet compression may be "un-waveletted" at Print time...so you would loose that when printing to postscript, and therefore, it would not be in the Distilled PDF anyway... Not sure of this though... >can get you a 20x to 80x reduction (depending on the type of image) before >degradation becomes noticeable. How can conversion to PDF allow a >200x >reduction in file size without substantial sacrifice of quality? It can't. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Oct-1997 21:53:19-GMT,2429;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16337 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:53:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA30609; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:50:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:47:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA30425; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:47:34 -0600 Message-Id: <9710272048.AA13743@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] post script to html. Date: Mon, 27 Oct 97 16:58:39 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I realize html and pdf are different animals with different jobs and the >philisophical discussion is ongoing. I am trying to overcome a >visibility problem that has resulted from my buy in to pdf. Please >forgive any ignorance my comments may have revealed and help me if you >will. Bill, both Adobe Pagemaker users and Quark users use the application files and Addition and or Xtensions to convert the page application files into HTML BEFORE they make postScript from that application file to DistilI know this is not what you want to hear, but I have not met anyone who tries to convert PostScript files (which describe a fixed size document in such a way to be printed on a device) as an HTML document. I simply think that some of the infomation such as how a text string actually "is" (Like in HTML) vs where the type should absolutely "break" in this "fixed" file (like in PostScript) is simply described is such a way that it would be easier to use the original application file to extract from. But then again, I am always amazed at things like QuadSoft makes...not sure if they have a PostScript to SGML covnersion application tool set... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Oct-1997 22:14:47-GMT,2178;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16910 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:14:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA31458; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:12:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:09:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA31323; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:09:54 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971027221415.0074b254@206.222.192.3> X-Sender: christer@206.222.192.3 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:14:15 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Dick Christensen Subject: [PDF] Problem Printing Truetype Century Schoolbook font. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We're new to Acrobat, so if this question is naive, plse be patient: I have a .PDF file created in Word 97 using the TrueType Century Schoolbook font. When printing this file, there seem to be several problems with character widths of a few characters which causes misalignment of lines in the output. Characters which aren't processed correctly include, at least, Em dash, opening double quote, and opening single quote. We've tried all variations we can think of for font substitution and True Type ont downloading, but have been unable to solve the problem. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Dick Christensen --------------------------- R. L. Christensen rlc@christensen.com Joe Christensen, Inc. 800-228-5030 1540 Adams. St. 402-476-3094 (FAX) Lincoln, NE 68521 --------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Oct-1997 22:18:30-GMT,1858;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16992 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:18:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA31725; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:16:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:14:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA31535; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:13:59 -0600 Message-Id: <9710272157.AA19473@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF files for C,D&E size paper Date: Mon, 27 Oct 97 18:07:34 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Does anyone know of a way to create PDF files that require large format paper >(C size and above)? Distiller Assistant seems to have a maximum paper size of >'B' and we don't have a postscript print driver that will create a .PS file >for a larger paper size. > >We are using NT 4.0 and if we could find a print driver that handles large >format paper, we might have a chance. Does the application permit a custom documnet size? Can the application save as eps? Can you select another Printer Driver for a device that can make large output and print to disk? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Oct-1997 22:19:44-GMT,3363;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17018 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:19:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA31822; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:17:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:15:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA31620; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:15:15 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE325.EB344E20.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:19:18 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA31616 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. But there is no interface to it. So it is, in effect, not there. Aandi On Saturday, October 25, 1997 18:13, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > Thanks a lot > I have another question. > I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this soft under > VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : > > link = "Soft.exe hello" > > Under VB5 by the command a$=command$, the variable a$ means "hello". > > But it is something i can not do either from acrobat or from any other html > page. > > It is a general problem of link, which does not accept any argument after > the name of the program to launch. > > thanks a lot > > Franck > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Aandi Inston > À : pdf@lists.emrg.com > Date : vendredi 24 octobre 1997 12:55 > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > > > > > > > > > >On Friday, October 24, 1997 00:17, Franck Filhoulaud > >[SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > > >> Do you know if i launch a file with a program, with a link in PDF file ? > > > >> In fact, i know that i can launch a Exe file (program) with a link in PDF > >file, but i don't know how can i launch a program with a specific file > >(*.doc with word.exe, *.tif with Wangimg.exe). > > > >Microsoft want you to think in terms of documents, not programs. > >So, just set up a link to FILENAME.TIF. > >Provided you have a program associated with the TIF extension > >Windows will take care of the rest. > > > >(Acrobat 3.01 will put out a warning message first). > > > >Aandi > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 0:19:47-GMT,2808;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20039 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:19:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA02529; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:17:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:13:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02392; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:13:57 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971027161401.00b4428c@rudy> X-Sender: jerickso@rudy X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:14:01 -0800 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, michael_jahn@agfa.com From: Jennifer Erickson Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF files for C,D&E size paper In-Reply-To: <9710272157.AA19473@atla3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Michael, You should be able to print larger page sizes to PDF without any problems if you configure your printer driver correctly. The best suggestion I have is to configure your driver to use the Distiller PPD file which will handle larger and custom size pages. Generate your PostScript using this configuration and when distilled pages sizes should appear correctly. More info on this can be found in the Distiller help file and the ReadMe. Jennifer Erickson Distiller QA Team Lead jerickso@adobe.com At 06:07 PM 10/27/97 -0000, you wrote: > >>Does anyone know of a way to create PDF files that require large format paper >>(C size and above)? Distiller Assistant seems to have a maximum paper size of >>'B' and we don't have a postscript print driver that will create a .PS file >>for a larger paper size. >> >>We are using NT 4.0 and if we could find a print driver that handles large >>format paper, we might have a chance. > >Does the application permit a custom documnet size? Can the application >save as eps? Can you select another Printer Driver for a device that can >make large output and print to disk? >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 0:33:41-GMT,1952;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20332 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:33:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03019; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:31:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:28:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02899; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:28:54 -0600 From: Billcatmic@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:30:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971027193001_127730398@mrin42.mail.aol.com> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF files for C,D&E size paper Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In a message dated 97-10-27 17:30:38 EST, you write: > > Does the application permit a custom documnet size? Can the application > save as eps? Can you select another Printer Driver for a device that can > make large output and print to disk? > The application allows size selection from A to J size paper. There is no ability to save the file in any form other than its native format. I don't have a print driver that will allow me to output PostScript for larger than B size paper. The best solution would be if I could find a print driver that has selections of paper sizes greater than B. Do you happen to know of any print drivers that run under NT 4.0, produce PostScript output, and have paper size selections of greater than B ?? Thanks, bill curtis billcatmic@aol.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 1:29:17-GMT,2418;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21264 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:29:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04531; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:24:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:21:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04432; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:21:25 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19971028013806.33cf26ac@mailhub.exis.net> X-Sender: shum@mailhub.exis.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:38:06 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: sheryl shum Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF files for C,D&E size paper Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Bill, The HP755 is a PostScript plotter, the driver can be found at http://hpcc923.external.hp.com/peripherals/lfprinters/dsgn750C-700.html I print C and D drawings from CAD 13 directly with the PDF writer with no problems. Sheryl ___________________________________________________________________________ At 12:39 PM 10/27/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Does anyone know of a way to create PDF files that require large format paper >(C size and above)? Distiller Assistant seems to have a maximum paper size of >'B' and we don't have a postscript print driver that will create a .PS file >for a larger paper size. > >We are using NT 4.0 and if we could find a print driver that handles large >format paper, we might have a chance. > >Thanks in advance, > >bill curtis >billcatmic@aol.com > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 8:26:40-GMT,4023;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29854 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:26:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA13726; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 02:20:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 02:14:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA13390; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 02:14:45 -0600 Message-Id: <199710280814.JAA02536@aralia.wanadoo.fr> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:14:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 thank you, but could you tell me how to proceed to do that in a pdf document ? Franck Filhoulaud -----Message d'origine----- De : Aandi Inston À : pdf@lists.emrg.com Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 00:03 Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > >Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. >But there is no interface to it. >So it is, in effect, not there. > >Aandi > >On Saturday, October 25, 1997 18:13, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> >> Thanks a lot >> I have another question. >> I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this soft under >> VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : >> >> link = "Soft.exe hello" >> >> Under VB5 by the command a$=command$, the variable a$ means "hello". >> >> But it is something i can not do either from acrobat or from any other html >> page. >> >> It is a general problem of link, which does not accept any argument after >> the name of the program to launch. >> >> thanks a lot >> >> Franck >> >> >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Aandi Inston >> À : pdf@lists.emrg.com >> Date : vendredi 24 octobre 1997 12:55 >> Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >On Friday, October 24, 1997 00:17, Franck Filhoulaud >> >[SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> > >> >> Do you know if i launch a file with a program, with a link in PDF file ? >> > >> >> In fact, i know that i can launch a Exe file (program) with a link in PDF >> >file, but i don't know how can i launch a program with a specific file >> >(*.doc with word.exe, *.tif with Wangimg.exe). >> > >> >Microsoft want you to think in terms of documents, not programs. >> >So, just set up a link to FILENAME.TIF. >> >Provided you have a program associated with the TIF extension >> >Windows will take care of the rest. >> > >> >(Acrobat 3.01 will put out a warning message first). >> > >> >Aandi >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 10:14:06-GMT,2121;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01930 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 03:14:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA16049; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:10:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:07:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15943; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:07:18 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE389.5DBB1E20.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:11:53 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I didn't make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to do this, there is no easy or sensible way to do it. If you were to read the PDF Format Reference Manual in detail, and make manual changes to your PDF file - not using Exchange - you could do it. Aandi Inston On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 08:15, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > but could you tell me how to proceed to do that in a pdf document ? > > > >Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. > >But there is no interface to it. > >So it is, in effect, not there. > > > >> I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this soft > under > >> VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : > >> > >> link = "Soft.exe hello" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 11:30:01-GMT,2246;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03244 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:30:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA17686; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 05:26:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 05:24:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA17592; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 05:24:41 -0600 From: Knut.Kongsrud@hst.hydro.com X400-Received: by /PRMD=hydro/ADMD=telemax/C=no/; converted ((1) (0) (10021) (7) (1) (0) (1), (1) (0) (10021) (7) (1) (0) (6)); Relayed; 28 Oct 1997 12:20:00 +0000 X400-Received: by mta VKHDMTA3 in /PRMD=hydro/ADMD=telemax/C=no/; converted ((1) (0) (10021) (7) (1) (0) (1), (1) (0) (10021) (7) (1) (0) (6)); Relayed; 28 Oct 1997 11:24:25 +0000 Date: 28 Oct 1997 11:24:25 +0000 X400-Originator: /PN=KNUT.KONGSRUD/O=HST/PRMD=HYDRO/ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/@x400.hda.hydro.com X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=hydro/ADMD=telemax/C=no/;XGW-971028122303+0100-26714] To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Larger thumbnails wanted Importance: normal Autoforwarded: FALSE Message-Id: <1028112303-Larger thumbnails wanted*@MHS> Content-Identifier: Larger thumbnail X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thumbnails are often too small to distnguish between simular images. To save time looking for the right image, an increased size of thumbnails is therefore wanted, but there seems to be no way to change the size of the thumbnails. To print all the images on a single page and link this to the real image on a single page, is not very elgant when we are talking about som hundred images. Does anyone know a better way ? Thank you in advance, Knut Kongsrud +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 13:22:42-GMT,2471;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05198 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 06:22:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA20322; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 07:18:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 07:16:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA20210; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 07:16:22 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Larger thumbnails wanted Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:21:09 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You could use a program called Kudo @ www.imspace.com. It allows you to look at a thumbnail view of images, but also has a built-in viewer to view the image with more detail. > ---------- > From: Knut.Kongsrud@hst.hydro.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 6:24 AM > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: [PDF] Larger thumbnails wanted > > > > Thumbnails are often too small to distnguish between simular images. > To > save time looking for the right image, an increased size of > thumbnails is > therefore wanted, but there seems to be no way to change the size of > the > thumbnails. > > To print all the images on a single page and link this to the real > image > on a single page, is not very elgant when we are talking about som > hundred > images. > > Does anyone know a better way ? > > > > Thank you in advance, > > Knut Kongsrud > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 14:43:30-GMT,2377;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06754 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 07:43:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA22801; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:40:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:37:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22683; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:37:50 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:39:22 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF Indexes Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am experiencing extremely long processing times when creating indexes using Acrobat Catalog 3.0. Most of the PDF files are between 10 - 100 Meg and take anywhere from 5 to 25 hours to index. The amount of time does not appear to be directly proportional to the size of the file. I have also found that a PDF file with minor updates (and re-Distilled) may take drastically more or less time to index than its predecessor. I am currently indexing my PDF files on a 133 MHz Pentium PC w/ 32M RAM. I have setup a RAM drive and this helped reduce the time it takes to create indexes, but not enough. I have tried different machines and achieved the same results. I delete my old indexes and always create as new. The only way I can successfully create my indexes, it is for me to close all other applications, including the screen saver. Is this normal? Does Acrobat Catalog really use this much of the systems resources or do I have something set incorrectly? Is there a faster way to create indexes? Does anyone know of an indexing application that will work in UNIX? Carl A. Krog Systems Engineer Bellcore ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 14:55:00-GMT,3034;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06993 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 07:54:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA23302; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:52:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:51:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA23157; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:51:09 -0600 Message-Id: <199710281453.PAA14867@tamaya.wanadoo.fr> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: Cc: "Aandi Inston" Subject: Re: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:43:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 thank you very much. Could tell me where in the PDF Format Reference Manual i can find this informations ? or could you tell me the way to do these kind of links from a pdf file. thanks a lot. Franck Filhoulaud -----Message d'origine----- De : Aandi Inston À : pdf@lists.emrg.com Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 12:08 Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > >I didn't make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to do this, >there is no easy or sensible way to do it. > >If you were to read the PDF Format Reference Manual in detail, >and make manual changes to your PDF file - not using Exchange >- you could do it. > >Aandi Inston > >On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 08:15, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> >> but could you tell me how to proceed to do that in a pdf document ? >> > >> >Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. >> >But there is no interface to it. >> >So it is, in effect, not there. >> > >> >> I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this soft >> under >> >> VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : >> >> >> >> link = "Soft.exe hello" >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 15:18:31-GMT,1645;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07577 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:18:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24335; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:16:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:14:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA24223; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:14:45 -0600 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:08:47 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Jeff Busha Subject: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? ______________________________________________ M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) ______________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 15:35:55-GMT,2398;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07964 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:35:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24922; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:33:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:32:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA24814; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:31:59 -0600 Message-ID: <34563006.18D1@infodata.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:33:42 -0800 From: viator@infodata.com (Viator, Lora) Organization: Infodata Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jeff Busha wrote: > > Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, > distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? > > ______________________________________________ > M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S > 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 > 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) > ______________________________________________ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Jeff, The plug-in Re:mark by Ambia can build aggregate PDF files from multiple PDFs. Get a demo at their site www.ambia.com. I am interested in the answer to the other question concerning combining multiple PS. I have to do this regularly. Lora +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 15:55:09-GMT,1660;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08412 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:55:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA25742; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:52:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:50:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25623; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:50:36 -0600 Message-Id: <199710281548.QAA07622@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 16:52:10 +0100 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, >distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? You can put the PS files in a directory, then create a 'RunFile' as the sample in the RunDirEx.txt file in the 'Extra' directory where you installed Distiller. Now distill this file and you'll get a single PDF from these PSs. Greetings, Andrea Valle +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 15:56:12-GMT,2799;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08445 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:56:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA25878; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:54:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:53:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25764; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:52:59 -0600 From: "Ralph Sabene" To: , Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 07:54:42 -0800 Message-ID: <01bce3b9$ce603e00$05a2b3cd@Monterey.SEPS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Subject: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files >Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, >distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? Sure can. I believe the info is in the PDF reference manual but if you add the following code in a text file (notepad will do just fine) and substitute your filenames at the end of the file, Distiller will create a single pdf. You may want to change the initial startup defaults that I use ([ /PageMode /UseOutlines /Page 1 /View [/Fit] /DOCVIEW pdfmark). ----------------------CODE---------------------------- %! % This file must remain in the same directory as the files listed below. /prun { /mysave save def dup = flush RunFile clear cleardictstack mysave restore } def [ /Title () /Author () /Keywords () /Subject () /Creator () /Producer ) /DOCINFO pdfmark [ /PageMode /UseOutlines /Page 1 /View [/Fit] /DOCVIEW pdfmark (D:\\eguide\\test\\splash.ps) prun (D:\\eguide\\test\\help.ps) prun (D:\\eguide\\test\\00000149.ps) prun (D:\\eguide\\test\\00000150.ps) prun (D:\\eguide\\test\\00000151.ps) prun (D:\\eguide\\test\\00000152.ps) prun (D:\\eguide\\test\\00000153.ps) prun (D:\\eguide\\test\\00000154.ps) prun (D:\\eguide\\test\\pdfMarks.ps) prun -------------------END CODE------------------------------------- HTH, Ralph Sabene Sony EPS (408) 657-2421 rsabene@seps.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 15:59:21-GMT,2031;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08501 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:59:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA26151; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:57:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:56:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25996; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:56:10 -0600 From: dhlee@marylandcomp.com Message-Id: <9710281541.AA01213@uu10.psi.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:39:38 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Distiller Problem with Images Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /223042102/223003951/223083528/300401888/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA25993 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am having some problems with OPI images embedded into rather large (greater than 100MB) Postscript files. When printed out, everything is fine. However, when I create PDF files by distilling this Postscript file, I get erroneous image representation on the screen (75% of image appears and the rest is white space; portion of image belonging at the bottom of the page actually appears at the top of the page, etc.). Has anyone else seen this problem, and what is the remedy (other than creating smaller Postscript files)? Are there special settings on the distiller that may help me out? Thanks in advance for your response. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 16:03:16-GMT,3006;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08595 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:03:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA26304; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:01:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:00:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26242; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:00:09 -0600 Message-ID: <34560F23.FF61BEE1@glyphica.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:13:23 -0800 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Jeff - There are a few plug ins out there that will do this, but I'll let their makers speak for themselves .... you can also drag and drop the files together from Windows Explorer on Win'95. Sort the files by the order you want them to be collated, pick a target PDF (the first page portion, say), select the subsequent files in their placement order and drag them on top of the target PDF. Alternately, there is an Insert command in Exchange which will perform this same function. Hope that helps, Deidre Paknad Glyphica ........................................................................... Acrobat & Web Publishing Services Adobe Authorized Service Provider http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web. http://www.purepdf.com ........................................................................... Jeff Busha wrote: > Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, > distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? > > ______________________________________________ > M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S > 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 > 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) > ______________________________________________ > > +---------------------------------------------------------- > --------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 16:50:22-GMT,2884;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09602 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:50:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA28306; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:47:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:46:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA28220; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:46:18 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971028164833.00923ab8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:48:33 -0800 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 upgrade problem solved Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Maybe I'm the only person who's not yet received his free Acrobat 3.01 upgrade, but in case anyone else is still waiting and wondering, here's what I learned yesterday during a long talk with Adobe Customer Support: You know how, when you buy the Upgrade version of an Adobe, you supply the serial number of the older version during the installation/registration process? Well, it turns out that Adobe's system can't figure out that you're upgrading, so they still think that you're using the older version and they never register you as a user of the new version. This explains why I did not automatically receive my 3.01 update (I had originally bought 2.1, and then the 3.0 upgrade version). When Adobe's system scanned its list of registered 3.0 users to locate those who should be sent the 3.01 version, my name didn't show up because it thought I was still running 2.1 Now, maybe they can track it properly if you buy your software directly from Adobe, but I chose to buy from Emerge to get a better price; I guess I've now paid the price, just in a different way. Adobe's system for tracking customers/software needs some work! So, if anyone else is still waiting for their 3.01, you should call 1-800-272-3623 and ask for it (and be prepared to wait at least another 3 weeks -- they're currently out of stock!) FWIW Tom Thiersch ps: I'm going to make a point of calling Adobe and checking what versions they think I have for the many other Adobe products I've upgraded over the years -- they probably still think I'm using *Aldus* Pagemaker +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 19:01:09-GMT,3651;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12756 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:01:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA32433; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:57:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:52:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA32211; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:52:26 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:51:54 -0600 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Be careful with the drag and drop from explorer to the pdf file. A bug exists that swaps the order of the first and last file dragged into the document (if you select to drop multiple files at once). -----Original Message----- From: D. Paknad [SMTP:paknad@glyphica.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 10:13 AM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files Hi Jeff - There are a few plug ins out there that will do this, but I'll let their makers speak for themselves .... you can also drag and drop the files together from Windows Explorer on Win'95. Sort the files by the order you want them to be collated, pick a target PDF (the first page portion, say), select the subsequent files in their placement order and drag them on top of the target PDF. Alternately, there is an Insert command in Exchange which will perform this same function. Hope that helps, Deidre Paknad Glyphica ........................................................................ ... 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Jeff Busha wrote: > Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, > distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? > > ______________________________________________ > M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S > 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 > 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) > ______________________________________________ > > +---------------------------------------------------------- > --------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 20:28:46-GMT,2740;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15097 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:28:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02445; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:25:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:22:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA02253; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:22:11 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:29:02 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, pdfdev@lists.emrg.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDFdev] FWD: Adobe Acrobat Control for ActiveX Update Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 An Update from Adobe Systems that may be of interest to list subscribers ---> ======================================== Adobe Acrobat Control for ActiveX Update ======================================== http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ocxreader.html If you recently upgraded to Microsoft(R) Internet Explorer 4.0, you will need to update your system with the latest ActiveX Control for Adobe(R) Acrobat(R) in order to enable PDF Search highlighting and page-at-a-time downloading (byteserving) of multipage PDF files, and to view PDF files within your browser. 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Fred W Epps 253-657-8103 Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com ---------- From: viator@infodata.com[SMTP:viator@infodata.com] Sent: October 28, 1997 10:33 AM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files <> I am interested in the answer to the other question concerning combining multiple PS. I have to do this regularly. Lora +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 21:02:53-GMT,2608;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15972 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:02:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA03806; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:00:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:58:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03660; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:58:25 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Going the other way... Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:00:10 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At Emerge's website there's pointers to quite a few third party plug-ins. Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems Voice: (813)572-2491 Fax: (813)572-2169 E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com WWW: http://ais.atk.com >---------- >From: Frank@han2.hannah.com[SMTP:frank@han2.hannah.com] >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 2:12 PM >To: pdf-l@emrg.com >Subject: [PDF] Going the other way... > > > >PDF files have gained such an acceptance that many sources of information are >moving to them as are we in our web based services. The problme is our legacy >character based sevices where we need ASCII files. Is there a way to get the >text of the document out of a PDF file ? > >on a alightly different subject where can one look for pointers to Acrobat >plug ins, >I assume someone somewhere has complied a page of pointers. > > >Frank Atkinson mailto:frank@hannah.com >Hannah News Service, Hannah Online >voice: 614-228-3113 >fx: 614-228-5897 http://www.hannah.com/frank/frank.htm > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 21:17:54-GMT,5888;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16288 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:17:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA04332; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:15:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:14:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA04250; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:14:03 -0600 From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: Subject: Tr: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 22:14:10 +0100 Message-ID: <01bce3e6$6ee7cec0$0b8efcc1@franck> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 -----Message d'origine----- De : Aandi Inston À : 'Franck Filhoulaud' Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 22:11 Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? I have never done this - just seen it in the manual. Are you sure you have the right one? The title page should say version 1.2. You would have something like << /Action /Launch ... >> Find that in a PDF file where you have a link to execute. It might have a /Win key like this: << /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) >> ... >> You need to add /P << /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) /P (some parameters) >> ... >> If that doesn't work, it may be best to repost on the list, to see if someone has actually done this. Not everything in the PDF Reference Manual works as described if Acrobat has no user interface. Aandi On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 18:56, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > Thanks you very, very (...) much !!! > > In my PDF Reference Manual, it's in section 6.13. > > But Excuse me to ask this kind of question but i am completely lost. could you make an example of this syntax please: > > Soft.exe arg > > in pdf, what will be the result ? > > franck Filhoulaud > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Aandi Inston > À : 'Franck Filhoulaud' > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 19:11 > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > > Look in section 6.9.4, Lauch actions: the Win dictionary and its attributes. > > Aandi > > On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 16:38, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > Ok thanks, but i don't know where is it in the PDF REFERENCE MANUAL. I have > > already this manual on my Acrobat 3.0 CDROM; But i don't find where is the > > syntax of this kind of link. After i find this syntax in Manual, i will can > > find this syntax in my PDF file with Text Editor (BBEdit, ....) > > > > Thanks > > > > Franck > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : Aandi Inston > > À : Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr > > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 15:57 > > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > > > > > > > The PDF reference manual is part of the Acrobat SDK. You will find it on the > > Acrobat 3.01 CDROM, or on Adobe's web site (follow links from > > http://www.adobe.com/acrobat/atwork.html). > > > > Aandi > > > > On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 14:43, Franck Filhoulaud > > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > > thank you very much. > > > Could tell me where in the PDF Format Reference Manual i can find this > > > informations ? > > > or could you tell me the way to do these kind of links from a pdf file. > > > > > > thanks a lot. > > > > > > Franck Filhoulaud > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > De : Aandi Inston > > > À : pdf@lists.emrg.com > > > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 12:08 > > > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I didn't make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to do this, > > > >there is no easy or sensible way to do it. > > > > > > > >If you were to read the PDF Format Reference Manual in detail, > > > >and make manual changes to your PDF file - not using Exchange > > > >- you could do it. > > > > > > > >Aandi Inston > > > > > > > >On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 08:15, Franck Filhoulaud > > > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > > >> > > > >> but could you tell me how to proceed to do that in a pdf document ? > > > >> > > > > >> >Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. > > > >> >But there is no interface to it. > > > >> >So it is, in effect, not there. > > > >> > > > > >> >> I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this > > soft > > > >> under > > > >> >> VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : > > > >> >> > > > >> >> link = "Soft.exe hello" > > > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > > + > > > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html > > + > > > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > << File: ATT00000.htm >> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 21:46:56-GMT,1632;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16875 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:46:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05545; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:44:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:42:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA05430; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:41:59 -0600 Message-ID: <019589D7ECC7D011A4170060976EA499293C0E@projhope.org> From: "King, Kathy" To: "'PDF'" , "'Ventura'" Subject: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:45:41 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate a PDF from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck with 3.01? Can you tell me what settings you are using for the Distiller driver and when you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't believe this doesn't work. -Kathy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 21:49:40-GMT,1976;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16935 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:49:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05792; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:47:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:46:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA05667; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:46:23 -0600 From: vhhuston@switch.com Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 16:50:18 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I rename the prn extension to ps and it works. Virgil Huston ------------- Original Text From: "King, Kathy" , on 10/28/97 4:45 PM: I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate aPDF from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck with3.01? Can you tell me what settings you are using for the Distillerdriver and when you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't believethis doesn't work.-Kathy+---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------++ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists ++ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html ++-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 22:07:22-GMT,2954;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17318 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:07:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA06488; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:05:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:03:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA06361; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:03:41 -0600 Message-Id: <3456612A.D315D044@sirsi.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:03:22 -0600 From: "Edward J. Crankshaw II" Organization: Sirsi Corporation - Publications Department X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 References: <019589D7ECC7D011A4170060976EA499293C0E@projhope.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Kathy, Have you tried loading the Adobe printer driver? Print the document to a postscript .PS file and then try distilling. You may have to go into the settings for the printer and change the postscript type to (this is what we use) archive or portable .PS. This should give you a starting point depending on how familiar you are with computers. Good luck, - Ed King, Kathy wrote: > > I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate a > PDF from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck with > 3.01? Can you tell me what settings you are using for the Distiller > driver and when you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't believe > this doesn't work. > -Kathy > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- _______________________________________________________________________ Work: edwardc@sirsi.com Home: ejcranks@hiwaay.net Sirsi Corporation, 689 Discovery Drive, Huntsville, Alabama 35806 (205) 922-9820 _______________________________________________________________________ New Release! Download VIZION 2.0 (TM), your personal "Net Organizer at www.sirsi.com Optional Z39.50 Client Available _______________________________________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 22:24:39-GMT,2070;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17755 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:24:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA07199; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:22:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:20:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA07078; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:20:25 -0600 Message-ID: <019589D7ECC7D011A4170060976EA499293C10@projhope.org> From: "King, Kathy" To: "'PDF'" , "'Ventura'" Subject: [PDF] FW: Distiller 3.01 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:24:16 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I figured the damn thing out. I had to dig through the readme file, manually install the distiller printer driver to work with the adobe ps driver, set the printer driver to Binary (among other things), and reinstall distiller. Ugh!! The biggest miracle is that it's printing to the LaserMaster. > ---------- > From: King, Kathy > Sent: 28 October, 1997 4:45 PM > To: 'PDF'; 'Ventura' > Subject: Distiller 3.01 > > I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate a > PDF from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck with > 3.01? Can you tell me what settings you are using for the Distiller > driver and when you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't > believe this doesn't work. > -Kathy > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 16:13:12-GMT,4145;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08806 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:13:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA26786; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:10:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:09:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26676; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:09:30 -0600 From: WBren@gre-ins.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:52:29 -0500 Message-ID: <4560B770.@gre-ins.com> Subject: [PDF] Re: Relative links..UNIX, Novell, Backwards?--Yes... To: pdf-l@emrg.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I found my answer regarding relative links. I had been using the relative links incorrectly. So any others out there can save themselves the hassle, I thought I'd share what I learned (as soon as I wipe the egg off). The "../" is used to move back a directory from the current location, and is not a placeholder for a directory. The answers to my question below therefore is... Filec.pdf to filea.pdf use (../../filea.pdf) Filec.pdf to fileg.pdf use (../dir3b/fileg.pdf) The test files that I used worked very smoothly, on the LAN (dos/Novell) and the AIX/UNIX intranet through a browser. Thanks again for those that replied the first time, since you confirmed that it could be done, as soon as I set it up right! -Wes ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Relative links..UNIX, Novell, Backwards? Author: Wes Bren (US) at CINCINNATI1 Date: 10/17/97 5:45 PM Thanks to replies on this list I was able to create some "relative links" that opened up a PDF file from a PDF file on Novell/Windows/Dos LAN AND on a AIX(UNIX) platform using a browser. (Both the /Action /GoToR and the /Action /Launch worked by the way.) But it didn't work the way I though it would hence the follow up description. I had to define the links as "/File (directory/file.pdf)" for it to work on both systems as opposed to a "/File (../../directory/file.pdf)". As defined in Portable Document Format Reference Manual Version 1.2--Section 7.3.1 This works fine for me assuming my link go one way, for example if the contents of dir1 are: filea.pdf dir2/ and the contents of dir2 are: fileb.pdf dir3a/ dir3b/ and the contents of dir3a are filec.pdf filed.pdf and the contents of dir3b are filef.pdf fileg.pdf ... then I can put links in filea.pdf that link TO File(b-g). But... how can I define links that go from filec.pdf in dir3a to files in dir1, dir2 and dir3b using relative links? On Novell the link could be defined as "(//dir1/filea.pdf)" and "(//dir1/dir2/fileb.pdf)" and "(//dir1/dir2/dir3b/filef.pdf)" etc. which inserts the current drive letter to complete the call from any document including itself as F:\dir1\filea.pdf. On unix, through a Web browser, the address includes an IP address for example "http://140.#.##.###/dir1/filea.pdf". How can I reconcile these paths to have a single link that works with the Acrobat Reader on the Novell based LAN, and with a browser plug-in on a UNIX based server? Sincerely, Wes Bren GRE Insurance Group 513.576.4734 Ohio, USA +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Oct-1997 19:18:51-GMT,1904;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13214 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:18:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA00322; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:16:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:13:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00190; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:13:46 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971028141259.006d343c@38.254.150.11> X-Sender: frank@38.254.150.11 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:12:59 -0500 To: pdf-l@emrg.com From: "Frank@han2.hannah.com" Subject: [PDF] Going the other way... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDF files have gained such an acceptance that many sources of information are moving to them as are we in our web based services. The problme is our legacy character based sevices where we need ASCII files. Is there a way to get the text of the document out of a PDF file ? on a alightly different subject where can one look for pointers to Acrobat plug ins, I assume someone somewhere has complied a page of pointers. Frank Atkinson mailto:frank@hannah.com Hannah News Service, Hannah Online voice: 614-228-3113 fx: 614-228-5897 http://www.hannah.com/frank/frank.htm +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Oct-1997 0:23:22-GMT,3129;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20472 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:23:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA10713; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:21:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:18:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA10584; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:18:19 -0600 Message-ID: <019589D7ECC7D011A4170060976EA499293C15@projhope.org> From: "King, Kathy" To: "'Jennifer Erickson'" Cc: "'PDF'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 19:22:09 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 After some distress I got it to work. I was getting error messages from Distiller in that it wouldn't distill the file no matter how I configured the distiller driver when generating. I ended up uninstalling all of 3.01 and then decided to reinstall it and this time I perused the readme file where I discovered that you have to install the distiller driver differently for use with Adobe's PS driver (whic is weird). So I did that and then got awful system errors from Distiller so I reinstalled that module and with a little tweeking all is well. Thanks for offering to help, and for being so speedy too. It took me forever to get 3.0 to print out of my LaserMaster so I just about died when 3.01 bawked. -Kathy > ---------- > From: Jennifer Erickson[SMTP:jerickso@Adobe.COM] > Sent: 28 October, 1997 5:55 PM > To: kking@projhope.org > Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 > > Kathy, > > What type of trouble are you having? Do you get an error message or > does > Distiller just not start? I'd like to try to help in any way I can. > > Jennifer Erickson > Distiller QA Team Lead > jerickso@adobe.com > > At 04:45 PM 10/28/97 -0500, you wrote: > > > >I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate > a > >PDF from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck > with > >3.01? Can you tell me what settings you are using for the Distiller > >driver and when you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't > believe > >this doesn't work. > >-Kathy > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----+ > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----+ > > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Oct-1997 2:39:23-GMT,1986;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23096 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 19:39:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA14238; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:37:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:35:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14114; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:35:02 -0600 Message-ID: <3456A16B.473A@rcinet.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 21:37:31 -0500 From: "R. Michael Dowden" Organization: VillaGraphX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I dump the *.prn right into distiller and have never had a problem...don't rename, don't do anything different than if it were a .ps or .eps...never heard of any problems.... > > I rename the prn extension to ps and it works. > Virgil Huston > ------------- > Original Text > From: "King, Kathy" , on 10/28/97 4:45 PM: > I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate aPDF > from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck with3.01? Can > you tell me what settings you are using for the Distillerdriver and when > you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't believethis doesn't > work. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Oct-1997 8:03:00-GMT,17489;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA28957 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:02:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA22517; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:59:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:55:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA22382; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:55:40 -0600 From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: "Aandi Inston" Cc: Subject: Re: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:55:46 +0100 Message-ID: <01bce440$10add980$c788fcc1@franck> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01BCE448.72724180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BCE448.72724180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, =20 i have workes about Pdfspec and the example that you sent. But i didn't succes. Let me show you what i got : =20 1. I have created a PDF File with a hyperlink launching soft.exe =20 2. I have opened this PDF file with Microsoft Word and i get this : 1 0 obj << /A << /S /Launch /F (..\\Program Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe)=20 >> /Type /Annot /Subtype /Link /Rect [71 737 110 749] /C [0 0 0] /Border [0 0 1] >> =20 3. I add the syntax /P (Franck) after /F .... like(i think /Win = must not be inserted) : 1 0 obj << /A << /S /Launch ----> (..\\Program Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe) /P (Franck) /Type /Annot /Subtype /Link /Rect [71 737 110 749] /C [0 0 0] /Border [0 0 1] >> =20 4. But when i want to get the argument Frnack in a visual basic soft = by the way of a$=3Dcommand$, i don't get any argument. =20 5. I think i am close from the goal but it is not very easy. =20 thank you very very very much. =20 =20 Franck Filhoulaud =20 -----Message d'origine----- De : Aandi Inston =C0 : 'Franck Filhoulaud' Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 22:11 Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? I have never done this - just seen it in the manual. Are you sure you = have the right one? The title page should say version 1.2. You would have something like=20 << /Action /Launch ... >> Find that in a PDF file where you have a link to execute. It might have a /Win key like this: << /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) >> ... >>=20 You need to add /P << /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) /P (some parameters) >> ... >>=20 If that doesn't work, it may be best to repost on the list, to see if = someone has actually done this. Not everything in the PDF Reference Manual works as described if Acrobat has no user interface. Aandi On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 18:56, Franck Filhoulaud = [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > Thanks you very, very (...) much !!! >=20 > In my PDF Reference Manual, it's in section 6.13.=20 >=20 > But Excuse me to ask this kind of question but i am completely lost. = could you make an example of this syntax please: >=20 > Soft.exe arg >=20 > in pdf, what will be the result ? >=20 > franck Filhoulaud >=20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Aandi Inston > =C0 : 'Franck Filhoulaud' > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 19:11 > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >=20 >=20 > Look in section 6.9.4, Lauch actions: the Win dictionary and its = attributes. >=20 > Aandi >=20 > On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 16:38, Franck Filhoulaud = [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > Ok thanks, but i don't know where is it in the PDF REFERENCE = MANUAL. I have > > already this manual on my Acrobat 3.0 CDROM; But i don't find where = is the > > syntax of this kind of link. After i find this syntax in Manual, i = will can > > find this syntax in my PDF file with Text Editor (BBEdit, ....) > >=20 > > Thanks > >=20 > > Franck > >=20 > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : Aandi Inston > > =C0 : Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr > > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 15:57 > > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > The PDF reference manual is part of the Acrobat SDK. You will find = it on the > > Acrobat 3.01 CDROM, or on Adobe's web site (follow links from > > http://www.adobe.com/acrobat/atwork.html). > >=20 > > Aandi > >=20 > > On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 14:43, Franck Filhoulaud > > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > > thank you very much. > > > Could tell me where in the PDF Format Reference Manual i can find = this > > > informations ? > > > or could you tell me the way to do these kind of links from a pdf = file. > > > > > > thanks a lot. > > > > > > Franck Filhoulaud > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > De : Aandi Inston > > > =C0 : pdf@lists.emrg.com > > > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 12:08 > > > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I didn't make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to = do this, > > > >there is no easy or sensible way to do it. > > > > > > > >If you were to read the PDF Format Reference Manual in detail, > > > >and make manual changes to your PDF file - not using Exchange > > > >- you could do it. > > > > > > > >Aandi Inston > > > > > > > >On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 08:15, Franck Filhoulaud > > > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > > >> > > > >> but could you tell me how to proceed to do that in a pdf = document ? > > > >> > > > > >> >Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. > > > >> >But there is no interface to it. > > > >> >So it is, in effect, not there. > > > >> > > > > >> >> I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten = this > > soft > > > >> under > > > >> >> VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : > > > >> >> > > > >> >> link =3D "Soft.exe hello" > > > > > = >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------= --+ > > > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > > + > > > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: = http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html > > + > > > > > = >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------= --+ > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 > << File: ATT00000.htm >>=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BCE448.72724180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hi,
 
i have = workes about=20 Pdfspec and the example that you sent.
But i didn't = succes.
Let me=20 show you what i got : 
 
1. = I have created=20 a PDF File with a hyperlink launching soft.exe

2. = I have=20 opened this PDF file with Microsoft Word and i get this = :
1 0 = obj
<<
/A=20 <<
/S /Launch
/F (..\\Program = Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe)=20
>>
/Type /Annot
/Subtype /Link
/Rect [71 737 110=20 749]
/C [0 0 0]
/Border [0 0 1]
>> 
 
3.  I add=20 the syntax /P (Franck) after /F .... like(i think /Win must = not
be=20 inserted)   : 
1 0 = obj
<<
/A=20 <<
/S /Launch
----> (..\\Program = Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe)=20 /P (Franck)
/Type /Annot
/Subtype /Link
/Rect [71 737 110=20 749]
/C [0 0 0]
/Border [0 0 1]
>> 

4. But when i=20 want to get the argument Frnack in a visual basic soft by the
way = of=20 a$=3Dcommand$, i don't get any argument. 
 
5. = I think i am=20 close from the goal but it is not very easy.

thank you very = very very=20 much. 
 
 
Franck=20 Filhoulaud
 
-----Message d'origine-----
De : = Aandi Inston=20 <quite@dial.pipex.com>
&Agr= ave; :=20 'Franck Filhoulaud' <Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr= >
Date :=20 mardi 28 octobre 1997 22:11
Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a = file, in=20 a PDF link ?

I have never done this - just seen it = in the=20 manual. Are you sure you have
the right one? The title page should = say=20 version 1.2.

You would have something like

<< = /Action=20 /Launch ... >>

Find that in a PDF file where you have a = link to=20 execute.

It might have a /Win key like this:

<< = /Action=20 /Launch /Win << /F (filename) >> ... >>

You = need to=20 add /P
<< /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) /P (some=20 parameters) >> ... >>

If that doesn't work, it may = be best=20 to repost on the list, to see if someone has
actually done this. Not=20 everything in the PDF Reference Manual works
as described if Acrobat = has no=20 user interface.

Aandi

On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 18:56, = Franck=20 Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@= wanadoo.fr]=20 wrote:
> Thanks you very, very (...) much !!!
>
> In = my PDF=20 Reference Manual, it's in section 6.13.
>
> But Excuse me = to ask=20 this kind of question but i am completely lost. could you make an = example of=20 this syntax please:
>
> Soft.exe arg
>
> in = pdf, what=20 will be the result ?
>
> franck Filhoulaud
>
> = -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Aandi Inston <quite@dial.pipex.com>
>= À=20 : 'Franck Filhoulaud' <Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr= >
>=20 Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 19:11
> Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch = program with=20 a file, in a PDF link ?
>
>
> Look in section 6.9.4, = Lauch=20 actions: the Win dictionary and its attributes.
>
> = Aandi
>=20
> On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 16:38, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@= wanadoo.fr]=20 wrote:
> >  Ok thanks, but i don't know where is it in the = PDF=20 REFERENCE MANUAL. I have
> > already this manual on my Acrobat = 3.0=20 CDROM; But i don't find where is the
> > syntax of this kind of = link.=20 After i find this syntax in Manual, i will can
> > find this = syntax in=20 my PDF file with Text Editor (BBEdit, ....)
> >
> >=20 Thanks
> >
> > Franck
> >
> > = -----Message=20 d'origine-----
> > De : Aandi Inston <quite@dial.pipex.com>
>= >=20 À : Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr= =20 <Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr= >
>=20 > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 15:57
> > Objet : RE: [PDF] = Launch=20 program with a file, in a PDF link ?
> >
> >
> = >=20
> > The PDF reference manual is part of the Acrobat SDK. You = will find=20 it on the
> > Acrobat 3.01 CDROM, or on Adobe's web site = (follow links=20 from
> > http://www.adobe.com/ac= robat/atwork.html).
>=20 >
> > Aandi
> >
> > On Tuesday, October = 28, 1997=20 14:43, Franck Filhoulaud
> > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@= wanadoo.fr]=20 wrote:
> > >  thank you very much.
> > > = Could tell=20 me where in the PDF Format Reference Manual i can find this
> > = >=20 informations ?
> > > or could you tell me the way to do = these kind=20 of links from a pdf file.
> > >
> > > thanks a=20 lot.
> > >
> >=20 >           &nb= sp;        =20 Franck Filhoulaud
> > >
> > > -----Message=20 d'origine-----
> > > De : Aandi Inston <quite@dial.pipex.com>
>= >=20 > À : pdf@lists.emrg.com=20 <pdf@lists.emrg.com>
> = >=20 > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 12:08
> > > Objet : RE: = [PDF]=20 Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ?
> > >
> = >=20 >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >I = didn't=20 make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to do this,
> = >=20 > >there is no easy or sensible way to do it.
> > >=20 >
> > > >If you were to read the PDF Format Reference = Manual=20 in detail,
> > > >and make manual changes to your PDF = file - not=20 using Exchange
> > > >- you could do it.
> > = >=20 >
> > > >Aandi Inston
> > > >
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> > > >> >Acrobat allows this facility, it is = built=20 into the PDF format.
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------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BCE448.72724180-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Oct-1997 9:46:13-GMT,7861;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00850 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:46:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA24904; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:42:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:37:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA24734; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:37:23 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE44E.606A6A20.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:04:35 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA24731 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >From my reading of the specification you MUST use a /Win section. If it appears it must have a /F entry as well. So try adding: /Win << /F (filename) /P (params >> after /F (filename). Try with the filename in the same form twice, and also try with the Windows file name correct (using \ not //). If that doesn't work, I've run out of ideas! Aandi On Wednesday, October 29, 1997 07:56, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > hi, > > i have workes about Pdfspec and the example that you sent. > But i didn't succes. > Let me show you what i got : > > 1. I have created a PDF File with a hyperlink launching soft.exe > > 2. I have opened this PDF file with Microsoft Word and i get this : > 1 0 obj > << > /A << > /S /Launch > /F (..\\Program Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe) > >> > /Type /Annot > /Subtype /Link > /Rect [71 737 110 749] > /C [0 0 0] > /Border [0 0 1] > >> > > 3. I add the syntax /P (Franck) after /F .... like(i think /Win must not > be inserted) : > 1 0 obj > << > /A << > /S /Launch > ----> (..\\Program Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe) /P (Franck) > /Type /Annot > /Subtype /Link > /Rect [71 737 110 749] > /C [0 0 0] > /Border [0 0 1] > >> > > 4. But when i want to get the argument Frnack in a visual basic soft by the > way of a$=command$, i don't get any argument. > > 5. I think i am close from the goal but it is not very easy. > > thank you very very very much. > > > Franck Filhoulaud > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Aandi Inston > À : 'Franck Filhoulaud' > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 22:11 > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > > I have never done this - just seen it in the manual. Are you sure you have > the right one? The title page should say version 1.2. > > You would have something like > > << /Action /Launch ... >> > > Find that in a PDF file where you have a link to execute. > > It might have a /Win key like this: > > << /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) >> ... >> > > You need to add /P > << /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) /P (some parameters) >> ... >> > > If that doesn't work, it may be best to repost on the list, to see if someone has > actually done this. Not everything in the PDF Reference Manual works > as described if Acrobat has no user interface. > > Aandi > > On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 18:56, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > Thanks you very, very (...) much !!! > > > > In my PDF Reference Manual, it's in section 6.13. > > > > But Excuse me to ask this kind of question but i am completely lost. could you make an example of this syntax please: > > > > Soft.exe arg > > > > in pdf, what will be the result ? > > > > franck Filhoulaud > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : Aandi Inston > > À : 'Franck Filhoulaud' > > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 19:11 > > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > > > > > Look in section 6.9.4, Lauch actions: the Win dictionary and its attributes. > > > > Aandi > > > > On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 16:38, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > > Ok thanks, but i don't know where is it in the PDF REFERENCE MANUAL. I have > > > already this manual on my Acrobat 3.0 CDROM; But i don't find where is the > > > syntax of this kind of link. After i find this syntax in Manual, i will can > > > find this syntax in my PDF file with Text Editor (BBEdit, ....) > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Franck > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > De : Aandi Inston > > > À : Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr > > > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 15:57 > > > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > > > > > > > > > > > The PDF reference manual is part of the Acrobat SDK. You will find it on the > > > Acrobat 3.01 CDROM, or on Adobe's web site (follow links from > > > http://www.adobe.com/acrobat/atwork.html). > > > > > > Aandi > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 14:43, Franck Filhoulaud > > > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > > > thank you very much. > > > > Could tell me where in the PDF Format Reference Manual i can find this > > > > informations ? > > > > or could you tell me the way to do these kind of links from a pdf file. > > > > > > > > thanks a lot. > > > > > > > > Franck Filhoulaud > > > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > > De : Aandi Inston > > > > À : pdf@lists.emrg.com > > > > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 12:08 > > > > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I didn't make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to do this, > > > > >there is no easy or sensible way to do it. > > > > > > > > > >If you were to read the PDF Format Reference Manual in detail, > > > > >and make manual changes to your PDF file - not using Exchange > > > > >- you could do it. > > > > > > > > > >Aandi Inston > > > > > > > > > >On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 08:15, Franck Filhoulaud > > > > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> but could you tell me how to proceed to do that in a pdf document ? > > > > >> > > > > > >> >Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. > > > > >> >But there is no interface to it. > > > > >> >So it is, in effect, not there. > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this > > > soft > > > > >> under > > > > >> >> VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> link = "Soft.exe hello" > > > > > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > > > + > > > > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html > > > + > > > > > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > << File: ATT00000.htm >> > > << File: ATT00002.htm >> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Oct-1997 15:51:56-GMT,3093;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07503 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:51:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02505; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:48:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:45:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02222; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:45:34 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <8825653F.00567DE0.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:47:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF Indexes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I don't know if this is normal; thought I'd share our indexing time for our largest set of PDF files - seems to me (1.2 meg) it takes about 30-45 minutes. We're using about the same equipment w/32M RAM. SG ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com on 10/28/97 06:39:22 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF Indexes I am experiencing extremely long processing times when creating indexes using Acrobat Catalog 3.0. Most of the PDF files are between 10 - 100 Meg and take anywhere from 5 to 25 hours to index. The amount of time does not appear to be directly proportional to the size of the file. I have also found that a PDF file with minor updates (and re-Distilled) may take drastically more or less time to index than its predecessor. I am currently indexing my PDF files on a 133 MHz Pentium PC w/ 32M RAM. I have setup a RAM drive and this helped reduce the time it takes to create indexes, but not enough. I have tried different machines and achieved the same results. I delete my old indexes and always create as new. The only way I can successfully create my indexes, it is for me to close all other applications, including the screen saver. Is this normal? Does Acrobat Catalog really use this much of the systems resources or do I have something set incorrectly? Is there a faster way to create indexes? Does anyone know of an indexing application that will work in UNIX? Carl A. Krog Systems Engineer Bellcore ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Oct-1997 17:25:16-GMT,74930;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09843 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:25:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06872; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:22:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:20:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06805; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:20:51 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971029092203.0094d610@mail.scruz.net> X-Sender: rhythm@mail.scruz.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:22:03 -0800 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Rhythm Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-29-97 [V2 #63] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA06802 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDF Digest begins with a numbered list of the topics of the day. I don't have time to read every topic, so I like to use the list to filter things out. But while the list is numbered, the corresponding messages aren't, so the numbered list really doesn't make it easy to find a given topic. Can you number the actual messages to correspond with the table of contents? Thanks, Lisa At 09:45 AM 10/29/97 -0600, you wrote: > >pdf-digest Wednesday, October 29 1997 Volume 02 : Number 063 > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >There are 28 messages totalling 2292 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the Day: > > 1. RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > 2. [PDF] Larger thumbnails wanted > 3. RE: [PDF] Larger thumbnails wanted > 4. [PDF] Creating PDF Indexes > 5. Re: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > 6. [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > 7. Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > 8. Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > 9. Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > 10. [PDF] Distiller Problem with Images > 11. Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > 12. [PDF] Re: Relative links..UNIX, Novell, Backwards?--Yes... > 13. [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 upgrade problem solved > 14. RE: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > 15. [PDF] Going the other way... > 16. [PDF] FWD: Adobe Acrobat Control for ActiveX Update > 17. Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > 18. RE: [PDF] Going the other way... > 19. Tr: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > 20. [PDF] Distiller 3.01 > 21. re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 > 22. Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 > 23. [PDF] FW: Distiller 3.01 > 24. RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 > 25. Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 > 26. Re: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > 27. RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > 28. Re: [PDF] Creating PDF Indexes > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:11:53 -0000 >From: Aandi Inston >Subject: RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > >I didn't make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to do this, >there is no easy or sensible way to do it. > >If you were to read the PDF Format Reference Manual in detail, >and make manual changes to your PDF file - not using Exchange >- - you could do it. > >Aandi Inston > >On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 08:15, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> >> but could you tell me how to proceed to do that in a pdf document ? >> > >> >Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. >> >But there is no interface to it. >> >So it is, in effect, not there. >> > >> >> I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this soft >> under >> >> VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : >> >> >> >> link = "Soft.exe hello" >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: 28 Oct 1997 11:24:25 +0000 >From: Knut.Kongsrud@hst.hydro.com >Subject: [PDF] Larger thumbnails wanted > > Thumbnails are often too small to distnguish between simular images. To > save time looking for the right image, an increased size of thumbnails is > therefore wanted, but there seems to be no way to change the size of the > thumbnails. > > To print all the images on a single page and link this to the real image >on a single page, is not very elgant when we are talking about som hundred >images. > > Does anyone know a better way ? > > > > Thank you in advance, > > Knut Kongsrud >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:21:09 -0500 >From: "Czajka, Mark" >Subject: RE: [PDF] Larger thumbnails wanted > >You could use a program called Kudo @ www.imspace.com. It allows you to >look at a thumbnail view of images, but also has a built-in viewer to >view the image with more detail. > >> ---------- >> From: Knut.Kongsrud@hst.hydro.com >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 6:24 AM >> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >> Subject: [PDF] Larger thumbnails wanted >> >> >> >> Thumbnails are often too small to distnguish between simular images. >> To >> save time looking for the right image, an increased size of >> thumbnails is >> therefore wanted, but there seems to be no way to change the size of >> the >> thumbnails. >> >> To print all the images on a single page and link this to the real >> image >> on a single page, is not very elgant when we are talking about som >> hundred >> images. >> >> Does anyone know a better way ? >> >> >> >> Thank you in advance, >> >> Knut Kongsrud >> +--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >> + >> + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >> http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >> +--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----+ >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:39:22 -0600 >From: ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com >Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF Indexes > >I am experiencing extremely long processing times when creating indexes >using Acrobat Catalog 3.0. Most of the PDF files are between 10 - 100 Meg >and take anywhere from 5 to 25 hours to index. The amount of time does not >appear to be directly proportional to the size of the file. I have also >found that a PDF file with minor updates (and re-Distilled) may take >drastically more or less time to index than its predecessor. > >I am currently indexing my PDF files on a 133 MHz Pentium PC w/ 32M RAM. I >have setup a RAM drive and this helped reduce the time it takes to create >indexes, but not enough. I have tried different machines and achieved the >same results. I delete my old indexes and always create as new. The only >way I can successfully create my indexes, it is for me to close all other >applications, including the screen saver. > >Is this normal? > >Does Acrobat Catalog really use this much of the systems resources or do I >have something set incorrectly? > >Is there a faster way to create indexes? > >Does anyone know of an indexing application that will work in UNIX? > >Carl A. Krog >Systems Engineer >Bellcore >ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:43:17 +0100 >From: "Franck Filhoulaud" >Subject: Re: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > thank you very much. >Could tell me where in the PDF Format Reference Manual i can find this >informations ? >or could you tell me the way to do these kind of links from a pdf file. > >thanks a lot. > > Franck Filhoulaud > >- -----Message d'origine----- >De : Aandi Inston >À : pdf@lists.emrg.com >Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 12:08 >Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > > >> >>I didn't make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to do this, >>there is no easy or sensible way to do it. >> >>If you were to read the PDF Format Reference Manual in detail, >>and make manual changes to your PDF file - not using Exchange >>- you could do it. >> >>Aandi Inston >> >>On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 08:15, Franck Filhoulaud >[SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >>> >>> but could you tell me how to proceed to do that in a pdf document ? >>> > >>> >Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. >>> >But there is no interface to it. >>> >So it is, in effect, not there. >>> > >>> >> I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this soft >>> under >>> >> VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : >>> >> >>> >> link = "Soft.exe hello" >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:08:47 -0800 >From: Jeff Busha >Subject: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > >Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, >distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? > > > ______________________________________________ > M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S > 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 > 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) > ______________________________________________ > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:33:42 -0800 >From: viator@infodata.com (Viator, Lora) >Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > >Jeff Busha wrote: >> >> Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, >> distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? >> >> ______________________________________________ >> M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S >> 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 >> 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) >> ______________________________________________ >> >> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >Jeff, > >The plug-in Re:mark by Ambia can build aggregate PDF files from multiple >PDFs. Get a demo at their site www.ambia.com. > >I am interested in the answer to the other question concerning combining >multiple PS. I have to do this regularly. > >Lora >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 16:52:10 +0100 >From: Andrea Valle >Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > >>Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, >>distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? >You can put the PS files in a directory, then create a 'RunFile' as the >sample in the RunDirEx.txt file in the 'Extra' directory where you >installed Distiller. Now distill this file and you'll get a single PDF >from these PSs. > >Greetings, >Andrea Valle >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 07:54:42 -0800 >From: "Ralph Sabene" >Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > >Subject: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > > >>Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, >>distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? > > >Sure can. I believe the info is in the PDF reference manual but if you add >the following code in a text file (notepad will do just fine) and substitute >your filenames at the end of the file, Distiller will create a single pdf. >You may want to change the initial startup defaults that I use ([ /PageMode >/UseOutlines /Page 1 /View [/Fit] /DOCVIEW pdfmark). > >- ----------------------CODE---------------------------- >%! >% This file must remain in the same directory as the files listed below. >/prun { /mysave save def >dup = flush >RunFile >clear cleardictstack >mysave restore >} def > >[ /Title () >/Author () >/Keywords () >/Subject () >/Creator () >/Producer > ) >/DOCINFO pdfmark >[ /PageMode /UseOutlines /Page 1 /View [/Fit] /DOCVIEW pdfmark >(D:\\eguide\\test\\splash.ps) prun >(D:\\eguide\\test\\help.ps) prun >(D:\\eguide\\test\\00000149.ps) prun >(D:\\eguide\\test\\00000150.ps) prun >(D:\\eguide\\test\\00000151.ps) prun >(D:\\eguide\\test\\00000152.ps) prun >(D:\\eguide\\test\\00000153.ps) prun >(D:\\eguide\\test\\00000154.ps) prun >(D:\\eguide\\test\\pdfMarks.ps) prun >- -------------------END CODE------------------------------------- > >HTH, > >Ralph Sabene >Sony EPS >(408) 657-2421 >rsabene@seps.com > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:39:38 -0500 >From: dhlee@marylandcomp.com >Subject: [PDF] Distiller Problem with Images > >I am having some problems with OPI images embedded into rather large >(greater than 100MB) Postscript files. When printed out, everything is >fine. However, when I create PDF files by distilling this Postscript >file, I get erroneous image representation on the screen (75% of image >appears and the rest is white space; portion of image belonging at the >bottom of the page actually appears at the top of the page, etc.). Has >anyone else seen this problem, and what is the remedy (other than >creating smaller Postscript files)? > >Are there special settings on the distiller that may help me out? Thanks >in advance for your response. >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:13:23 -0800 >From: "D. Paknad" >Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > >Hi Jeff - > >There are a few plug ins out there that will do this, but I'll >let their makers speak for themselves .... you can also drag >and drop the files together from Windows Explorer on Win'95. >Sort the files by the order you want them to be collated, pick >a target PDF (the first page portion, say), select the subsequent >files in their placement order and drag them on top of the >target PDF. Alternately, there is an Insert command in Exchange >which will perform this same function. > >Hope that helps, >Deidre Paknad >Glyphica >........................................................................... > >Acrobat & Web Publishing Services >Adobe Authorized Service Provider >http://www.glyphica.com > >PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web. >http://www.purepdf.com >........................................................................... > >Jeff Busha wrote: > >> Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, >> distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? >> >> ______________________________________________ >> M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S >> 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 >> 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) >> ______________________________________________ >> >> +---------------------------------------------------------- >> --------------+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF >> Specialists + >> + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >> http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >> +-- >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:52:29 -0500 >From: WBren@gre-ins.com >Subject: [PDF] Re: Relative links..UNIX, Novell, Backwards?--Yes... > > I found my answer regarding relative links. > > I had been using the relative links incorrectly. So any others out > there can save themselves the hassle, I thought I'd share what I > learned (as soon as I wipe the egg off). > > The "../" is used to move back a directory from the current location, > and is not a placeholder for a directory. > > The answers to my question below therefore is... > Filec.pdf to filea.pdf use (../../filea.pdf) > Filec.pdf to fileg.pdf use (../dir3b/fileg.pdf) > > The test files that I used worked very smoothly, on the LAN > (dos/Novell) and the AIX/UNIX intranet through a browser. > > Thanks again for those that replied the first time, since you > confirmed that it could be done, as soon as I set it up right! > > -Wes > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Relative links..UNIX, Novell, Backwards? >Author: Wes Bren (US) at CINCINNATI1 >Date: 10/17/97 5:45 PM > > > Thanks to replies on this list I was able to create some "relative > links" that opened up a PDF file from a PDF file on Novell/Windows/Dos > LAN AND on a AIX(UNIX) platform using a browser. (Both the /Action > /GoToR and the /Action /Launch worked by the way.) But it didn't work > the way I though it would hence the follow up description. > > I had to define the links as "/File (directory/file.pdf)" for it to > work on both systems as opposed to a > "/File (../../directory/file.pdf)". > As defined in Portable Document Format Reference Manual Version > 1.2--Section 7.3.1 > > This works fine for me assuming my link go one way, for example if > the contents of dir1 are: > filea.pdf > dir2/ > and the contents of dir2 are: > fileb.pdf > dir3a/ > dir3b/ > and the contents of dir3a are > filec.pdf > filed.pdf > and the contents of dir3b are > filef.pdf > fileg.pdf > ... then I can put links in filea.pdf that link TO File(b-g). > > But... > how can I define links that go from filec.pdf in dir3a to files in > dir1, dir2 and dir3b using relative links? > > > On Novell the link could be defined as "(//dir1/filea.pdf)" and > "(//dir1/dir2/fileb.pdf)" and "(//dir1/dir2/dir3b/filef.pdf)" etc. > which inserts the current drive letter to complete the call from any > document including itself as F:\dir1\filea.pdf. > > On unix, through a Web browser, the address includes an IP address for > example "http://140.#.##.###/dir1/filea.pdf". > > How can I reconcile these paths to have a single link that works with > the Acrobat Reader on the Novell based LAN, and with a browser plug-in > on a UNIX based server? > > Sincerely, > > Wes Bren > GRE Insurance Group > 513.576.4734 > Ohio, USA > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:48:33 -0800 >From: Tom Thiersch >Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 upgrade problem solved > >Maybe I'm the only person who's not yet received his free Acrobat 3.01 >upgrade, but in case anyone else is still waiting and wondering, here's what >I learned yesterday during a long talk with Adobe Customer Support: > >You know how, when you buy the Upgrade version of an Adobe, you supply the >serial number of the older version during the installation/registration >process? Well, it turns out that Adobe's system can't figure out that >you're upgrading, so they still think that you're using the older version >and they never register you as a user of the new version. > >This explains why I did not automatically receive my 3.01 update (I had >originally bought 2.1, and then the 3.0 upgrade version). When Adobe's >system scanned its list of registered 3.0 users to locate those who should >be sent the 3.01 version, my name didn't show up because it thought I was >still running 2.1 > >Now, maybe they can track it properly if you buy your software directly from >Adobe, but I chose to buy from Emerge to get a better price; I guess I've >now paid the price, just in a different way. > >Adobe's system for tracking customers/software needs some work! > >So, if anyone else is still waiting for their 3.01, you should call >1-800-272-3623 and ask for it (and be prepared to wait at least another 3 >weeks -- they're currently out of stock!) > >FWIW > >Tom Thiersch > >ps: I'm going to make a point of calling Adobe and checking what versions >they think I have for the many other Adobe products I've upgraded over the >years -- they probably still think I'm using *Aldus* Pagemaker > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:51:54 -0600 >From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" >Subject: RE: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > >Be careful with the drag and drop from explorer to the pdf file. A bug >exists that swaps the order of the first and last file dragged into the >document (if you select to drop multiple files at once). > > -----Original Message----- > From: D. Paknad [SMTP:paknad@glyphica.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 10:13 AM > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > > > Hi Jeff - > > There are a few plug ins out there that will do this, but I'll > let their makers speak for themselves .... you can also drag > and drop the files together from Windows Explorer on Win'95. > Sort the files by the order you want them to be collated, pick > a target PDF (the first page portion, say), select the >subsequent > files in their placement order and drag them on top of the > target PDF. Alternately, there is an Insert command in >Exchange > which will perform this same function. > > Hope that helps, > Deidre Paknad > Glyphica > >........................................................................ >... > > Acrobat & Web Publishing Services > Adobe Authorized Service Provider > http://www.glyphica.com > > PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web. > http://www.purepdf.com > >........................................................................ >... > > Jeff Busha wrote: > > > Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a >single, > > distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs >into one? > > > > ______________________________________________ > > M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S > > 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 > > 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) > > ______________________________________________ > > > > +---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > > Specialists + > > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > > +-- > > >- ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------- >- --+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >+ > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------- >- --+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:12:59 -0500 >From: "Frank@han2.hannah.com" >Subject: [PDF] Going the other way... > > >PDF files have gained such an acceptance that many sources of information are >moving to them as are we in our web based services. The problme is our legacy >character based sevices where we need ASCII files. Is there a way to get the >text of the document out of a PDF file ? > >on a alightly different subject where can one look for pointers to Acrobat >plug ins, >I assume someone somewhere has complied a page of pointers. > > >Frank Atkinson mailto:frank@hannah.com >Hannah News Service, Hannah Online >voice: 614-228-3113 >fx: 614-228-5897 http://www.hannah.com/frank/frank.htm > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:29:02 -0600 >From: Kurt Foss >Subject: [PDF] FWD: Adobe Acrobat Control for ActiveX Update > >An Update from Adobe Systems that may be of interest to list subscribers ---> > >======================================== >Adobe Acrobat Control for ActiveX Update >======================================== > >http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ocxreader.html > >If you recently upgraded to Microsoft(R) Internet Explorer 4.0, you will >need to update your system with the latest ActiveX Control for Adobe(R) >Acrobat(R) in order to enable PDF Search highlighting and page-at-a-time >downloading (byteserving) of multipage PDF files, and to view PDF files >within your browser. > >If you are using Internet Explorer 3.0, 3.1, or 3.02, and you previously >downloaded Adobe Acrobat Reader, you do not need this update; the ActiveX >Control for those versions was automatically installed with the Acrobat >Reader >download. However, this new update is compatible with Internet Explorer >versions >earlier than 4.0. > >The Control for ActiveX Update works with Adobe Acrobat versions 3.0 and later, >in all languages. > >_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > --> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <-- > "Solutions for PDF Professionals" >_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ >Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager >EMERGE 800-829-2459 or 608-829-3454 x102 >579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: 608-829-3561 >Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com >Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.emrg.com/ >========================================================== > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:34:38 -0800 >From: Fred W Epps >Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > >In the Distiller 3.1 help file -- page 57 -- this is discussed. > > > Fred W Epps > 253-657-8103 > Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > > >- ---------- >From: viator@infodata.com[SMTP:viator@infodata.com] >Sent: October 28, 1997 10:33 AM >To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files > ><> > >I am interested in the answer to the other question concerning combining >multiple PS. I have to do this regularly. > >Lora >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF >Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:00:10 -0600 >From: "Mera, Jose" >Subject: RE: [PDF] Going the other way... > >At Emerge's website there's pointers to quite a few third party >plug-ins. > >Jose Mera >Business Area Manager >Alliant Techsystems >Voice: (813)572-2491 >Fax: (813)572-2169 >E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com >WWW: http://ais.atk.com > >>---------- >>From: Frank@han2.hannah.com[SMTP:frank@han2.hannah.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 2:12 PM >>To: pdf-l@emrg.com >>Subject: [PDF] Going the other way... >> >> >> >>PDF files have gained such an acceptance that many sources of information are >>moving to them as are we in our web based services. The problme is our legacy >>character based sevices where we need ASCII files. Is there a way to get the >>text of the document out of a PDF file ? >> >>on a alightly different subject where can one look for pointers to Acrobat >>plug ins, >>I assume someone somewhere has complied a page of pointers. >> >> >>Frank Atkinson mailto:frank@hannah.com >>Hannah News Service, Hannah Online >>voice: 614-228-3113 >>fx: 614-228-5897 http://www.hannah.com/frank/frank.htm >> >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 22:14:10 +0100 >From: "Franck Filhoulaud" >Subject: Tr: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > >- -----Message d'origine----- >De : Aandi Inston >À : 'Franck Filhoulaud' >Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 22:11 >Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > >I have never done this - just seen it in the manual. Are you sure you have >the right one? The title page should say version 1.2. > >You would have something like > ><< /Action /Launch ... >> > >Find that in a PDF file where you have a link to execute. > >It might have a /Win key like this: > ><< /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) >> ... >> > >You need to add /P ><< /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) /P (some parameters) >> ... >> > >If that doesn't work, it may be best to repost on the list, to see if >someone has >actually done this. Not everything in the PDF Reference Manual works >as described if Acrobat has no user interface. > >Aandi > >On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 18:56, Franck Filhoulaud >[SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> Thanks you very, very (...) much !!! >> >> In my PDF Reference Manual, it's in section 6.13. >> >> But Excuse me to ask this kind of question but i am completely lost. could >you make an example of this syntax please: >> >> Soft.exe arg >> >> in pdf, what will be the result ? >> >> franck Filhoulaud >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Aandi Inston >> À : 'Franck Filhoulaud' >> Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 19:11 >> Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >> >> >> Look in section 6.9.4, Lauch actions: the Win dictionary and its >attributes. >> >> Aandi >> >> On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 16:38, Franck Filhoulaud >[SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> > Ok thanks, but i don't know where is it in the PDF REFERENCE MANUAL. I >have >> > already this manual on my Acrobat 3.0 CDROM; But i don't find where is >the >> > syntax of this kind of link. After i find this syntax in Manual, i will >can >> > find this syntax in my PDF file with Text Editor (BBEdit, ....) >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Franck >> > >> > -----Message d'origine----- >> > De : Aandi Inston >> > À : Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr >> > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 15:57 >> > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >> > >> > >> > >> > The PDF reference manual is part of the Acrobat SDK. You will find it on >the >> > Acrobat 3.01 CDROM, or on Adobe's web site (follow links from >> > http://www.adobe.com/acrobat/atwork.html). >> > >> > Aandi >> > >> > On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 14:43, Franck Filhoulaud >> > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> > > thank you very much. >> > > Could tell me where in the PDF Format Reference Manual i can find this >> > > informations ? >> > > or could you tell me the way to do these kind of links from a pdf >file. >> > > >> > > thanks a lot. >> > > >> > > Franck Filhoulaud >> > > >> > > -----Message d'origine----- >> > > De : Aandi Inston >> > > À : pdf@lists.emrg.com >> > > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 12:08 >> > > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >I didn't make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to do >this, >> > > >there is no easy or sensible way to do it. >> > > > >> > > >If you were to read the PDF Format Reference Manual in detail, >> > > >and make manual changes to your PDF file - not using Exchange >> > > >- you could do it. >> > > > >> > > >Aandi Inston >> > > > >> > > >On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 08:15, Franck Filhoulaud >> > > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> but could you tell me how to proceed to do that in a pdf document ? >> > > >> > >> > > >> >Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. >> > > >> >But there is no interface to it. >> > > >> >So it is, in effect, not there. >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this >> > soft >> > > >> under >> > > >> >> VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> link = "Soft.exe hello" >> > > >> > >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >> > + >> > > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >> > + >> > > >> > >>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> << File: ATT00000.htm >> > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:45:41 -0500 >From: "King, Kathy" >Subject: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 > >I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate a >PDF from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck with >3.01? Can you tell me what settings you are using for the Distiller >driver and when you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't believe >this doesn't work. >- -Kathy >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 16:50:18 EST >From: vhhuston@switch.com >Subject: re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 > >I rename the prn extension to ps and it works. >Virgil Huston >- ------------- >Original Text >From: "King, Kathy" , on 10/28/97 4:45 PM: >I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate aPDF >from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck with3.01? Can >you tell me what settings you are using for the Distillerdriver and when >you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't believethis doesn't >work.-Kathy+---------------------------------------------------------------- >- ---------++ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > ++ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >++-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:03:22 -0600 >From: "Edward J. Crankshaw II" >Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 > >Kathy, > >Have you tried loading the Adobe printer driver? Print the document to a >postscript .PS file and then try distilling. You may have to go into the >settings for the printer and change the postscript type to (this is what >we use) archive or portable .PS. > >This should give you a starting point depending on how familiar you are >with computers. > >Good luck, > >- - Ed > >King, Kathy wrote: >> >> I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate a >> PDF from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck with >> 3.01? Can you tell me what settings you are using for the Distiller >> driver and when you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't believe >> this doesn't work. >> -Kathy >> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >- -- >_______________________________________________________________________ > >Work: edwardc@sirsi.com Home: ejcranks@hiwaay.net > Sirsi Corporation, 689 Discovery Drive, Huntsville, Alabama 35806 > (205) 922-9820 >_______________________________________________________________________ > New Release! >Download VIZION 2.0 (TM), your personal "Net Organizer at www.sirsi.com > Optional Z39.50 Client Available >_______________________________________________________________________ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:24:16 -0500 >From: "King, Kathy" >Subject: [PDF] FW: Distiller 3.01 > >I figured the damn thing out. I had to dig through the readme file, >manually install the distiller printer driver to work with the adobe ps >driver, set the printer driver to Binary (among other things), and >reinstall distiller. Ugh!! The biggest miracle is that it's printing to >the LaserMaster. > >> ---------- >> From: King, Kathy >> Sent: 28 October, 1997 4:45 PM >> To: 'PDF'; 'Ventura' >> Subject: Distiller 3.01 >> >> I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate a >> PDF from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck with >> 3.01? Can you tell me what settings you are using for the Distiller >> driver and when you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't >> believe this doesn't work. >> -Kathy >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 19:22:09 -0500 >From: "King, Kathy" >Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 > >After some distress I got it to work. I was getting error messages from >Distiller in that it wouldn't distill the file no matter how I >configured the distiller driver when generating. I ended up uninstalling >all of 3.01 and then decided to reinstall it and this time I perused the >readme file where I discovered that you have to install the distiller >driver differently for use with Adobe's PS driver (whic is weird). So I >did that and then got awful system errors from Distiller so I >reinstalled that module and with a little tweeking all is well. Thanks >for offering to help, and for being so speedy too. It took me forever to >get 3.0 to print out of my LaserMaster so I just about died when 3.01 >bawked. >- -Kathy > >> ---------- >> From: Jennifer Erickson[SMTP:jerickso@Adobe.COM] >> Sent: 28 October, 1997 5:55 PM >> To: kking@projhope.org >> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 >> >> Kathy, >> >> What type of trouble are you having? Do you get an error message or >> does >> Distiller just not start? I'd like to try to help in any way I can. >> >> Jennifer Erickson >> Distiller QA Team Lead >> jerickso@adobe.com >> >> At 04:45 PM 10/28/97 -0500, you wrote: >> > >> >I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate >> a >> >PDF from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck >> with >> >3.01? Can you tell me what settings you are using for the Distiller >> >driver and when you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't >> believe >> >this doesn't work. >> >-Kathy >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -----+ >> >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >> + >> >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >> http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -----+ >> > >> > >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 21:37:31 -0500 >From: "R. Michael Dowden" >Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 > >I dump the *.prn right into distiller and have never had a >problem...don't rename, don't do anything different than if it were a >.ps or .eps...never heard of any problems.... >> >> I rename the prn extension to ps and it works. >> Virgil Huston >> ------------- >> Original Text >> From: "King, Kathy" , on 10/28/97 4:45 PM: >> I just tried Distiller 3.01 and can't get the thing to even generate aPDF >> from a .prn file. This is so frustrating. Has anyone had luck with3.01? Can >> you tell me what settings you are using for the Distillerdriver and when >> you generate (I'm generating from VP5) ? I can't believethis doesn't >> work. >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:55:46 +0100 >From: "Franck Filhoulaud" >Subject: Re: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > >Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BCE448.72724180 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >hi, > =20 > i have workes about Pdfspec and the example that you sent. > But i didn't succes. > Let me show you what i got : > =20 > 1. I have created a PDF File with a hyperlink launching soft.exe > =20 > 2. I have opened this PDF file with Microsoft Word and i get this : > 1 0 obj > << > /A << > /S /Launch > /F (..\\Program Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe)=20 > >> > /Type /Annot > /Subtype /Link > /Rect [71 737 110 749] > /C [0 0 0] > /Border [0 0 1] > >> > =20 > 3. I add the syntax /P (Franck) after /F .... like(i think /Win = >must not > be inserted) : > 1 0 obj > << > /A << > /S /Launch > ----> (..\\Program Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe) /P (Franck) > /Type /Annot > /Subtype /Link > /Rect [71 737 110 749] > /C [0 0 0] > /Border [0 0 1] > >> > =20 > 4. But when i want to get the argument Frnack in a visual basic soft = >by the > way of a$=3Dcommand$, i don't get any argument. > =20 > 5. I think i am close from the goal but it is not very easy. > =20 > thank you very very very much. > =20 > =20 > Franck Filhoulaud > =20 > -----Message d'origine----- >De : Aandi Inston >=C0 : 'Franck Filhoulaud' >Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 22:11 >Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > > >I have never done this - just seen it in the manual. Are you sure you = >have >the right one? The title page should say version 1.2. > >You would have something like=20 > ><< /Action /Launch ... >> > >Find that in a PDF file where you have a link to execute. > >It might have a /Win key like this: > ><< /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) >> ... >>=20 > >You need to add /P ><< /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) /P (some parameters) >> ... >>=20 > >If that doesn't work, it may be best to repost on the list, to see if = >someone has >actually done this. Not everything in the PDF Reference Manual works >as described if Acrobat has no user interface. > >Aandi > >On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 18:56, Franck Filhoulaud = >[SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> Thanks you very, very (...) much !!! >>=20 >> In my PDF Reference Manual, it's in section 6.13.=20 >>=20 >> But Excuse me to ask this kind of question but i am completely lost. = >could you make an example of this syntax please: >>=20 >> Soft.exe arg >>=20 >> in pdf, what will be the result ? >>=20 >> franck Filhoulaud >>=20 >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Aandi Inston >> =C0 : 'Franck Filhoulaud' >> Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 19:11 >> Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >>=20 >>=20 >> Look in section 6.9.4, Lauch actions: the Win dictionary and its = >attributes. >>=20 >> Aandi >>=20 >> On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 16:38, Franck Filhoulaud = >[SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> > Ok thanks, but i don't know where is it in the PDF REFERENCE = >MANUAL. I have >> > already this manual on my Acrobat 3.0 CDROM; But i don't find where = >is the >> > syntax of this kind of link. After i find this syntax in Manual, i = >will can >> > find this syntax in my PDF file with Text Editor (BBEdit, ....) >> >=20 >> > Thanks >> >=20 >> > Franck >> >=20 >> > -----Message d'origine----- >> > De : Aandi Inston >> > =C0 : Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr >> > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 15:57 >> > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > The PDF reference manual is part of the Acrobat SDK. You will find = >it on the >> > Acrobat 3.01 CDROM, or on Adobe's web site (follow links from >> > http://www.adobe.com/acrobat/atwork.html). >> >=20 >> > Aandi >> >=20 >> > On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 14:43, Franck Filhoulaud >> > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> > > thank you very much. >> > > Could tell me where in the PDF Format Reference Manual i can find = >this >> > > informations ? >> > > or could you tell me the way to do these kind of links from a pdf = >file. >> > > >> > > thanks a lot. >> > > >> > > Franck Filhoulaud >> > > >> > > -----Message d'origine----- >> > > De : Aandi Inston >> > > =C0 : pdf@lists.emrg.com >> > > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 12:08 >> > > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >I didn't make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to = >do this, >> > > >there is no easy or sensible way to do it. >> > > > >> > > >If you were to read the PDF Format Reference Manual in detail, >> > > >and make manual changes to your PDF file - not using Exchange >> > > >- you could do it. >> > > > >> > > >Aandi Inston >> > > > >> > > >On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 08:15, Franck Filhoulaud >> > > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> but could you tell me how to proceed to do that in a pdf = >document ? >> > > >> > >> > > >> >Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. >> > > >> >But there is no interface to it. >> > > >> >So it is, in effect, not there. >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten = >this >> > soft >> > > >> under >> > > >> >> VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> link =3D "Soft.exe hello" >> > > >> > = >>+-----------------------------------------------------------------------= >- --+ >> > > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >> > + >> > > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: = >http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >> > + >> > > >> > = >>+-----------------------------------------------------------------------= >- --+ >> > > >> > > >> >=20 >>=20 >> << File: ATT00000.htm >>=20 > > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BCE448.72724180 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > >http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > >
>
hi,
>
 
i have = >workes about=20 > Pdfspec and the example that you sent.
But i didn't = >succes.
Let me=20 > show you what i got : 
>
 
>
1. = >I have created=20 > a PDF File with a hyperlink launching soft.exe
>

2. = >I have=20 > opened this PDF file with Microsoft Word and i get this = >:
>
1 0 = >obj
<<
/A=20 > <<
/S /Launch
/F (..\\Program = >Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe)=20 >
>>
/Type /Annot
/Subtype /Link
/Rect [71 737 110=20 > 749]
/C [0 0 0]
/Border [0 0 1]
>> 
>
 
>
size=3D2>3.  I add=20 > the syntax /P (Franck) after /F .... like(i think /Win must = >not
be=20 > inserted)   : 
>
1 0 = >obj
<<
/A=20 > <<
/S /Launch
----> (..\\Program = >Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe)=20 > /P (Franck)
/Type /Annot
/Subtype /Link
/Rect [71 737 110=20 > 749]
/C [0 0 0]
/Border [0 0 1]
>> 
>
size=3D2>
4. But when i=20 > want to get the argument Frnack in a visual basic soft by the
way = >of=20 > a$=3Dcommand$, i don't get any argument. 
>
 
>
5. = >I think i am=20 > close from the goal but it is not very easy.
>

thank you very = >very very=20 > much. 
>
 
>
 
>
Franck=20 > Filhoulaud
 
>
-----Message d'origine-----
De : = >Aandi Inston=20 ><href=3D"mailto:quite@dial.pipex.com">quite@dial.pipex.com>
&Agr= >ave; :=20 >'Franck Filhoulaud' <href=3D"mailto:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr">Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr= >>
Date :=20 >mardi 28 octobre 1997 22:11
Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a = >file, in=20 >a PDF link ?

I have never done this - just seen it = >in the=20 >manual. Are you sure you have
the right one? The title page should = >say=20 >version 1.2.

You would have something like

<< = >/Action=20 >/Launch ... >>

Find that in a PDF file where you have a = >link to=20 >execute.

It might have a /Win key like this:

<< = >/Action=20 >/Launch /Win << /F (filename) >> ... >>

You = >need to=20 >add /P
<< /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) /P (some=20 >parameters) >> ... >>

If that doesn't work, it may = >be best=20 >to repost on the list, to see if someone has
actually done this. Not=20 >everything in the PDF Reference Manual works
as described if Acrobat = >has no=20 >user interface.

Aandi

On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 18:56, = >Franck=20 >Filhoulaud [href=3D"mailto:SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr">SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@= >wanadoo.fr]=20 >wrote:
> Thanks you very, very (...) much !!!
>
> In = >my PDF=20 >Reference Manual, it's in section 6.13.
>
> But Excuse me = >to ask=20 >this kind of question but i am completely lost. could you make an = >example of=20 >this syntax please:
>
> Soft.exe arg
>
> in = >pdf, what=20 >will be the result ?
>
> franck Filhoulaud
>
> = > >- -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Aandi Inston <href=3D"mailto:quite@dial.pipex.com">quite@dial.pipex.com>
>= > À=20 >: 'Franck Filhoulaud' <href=3D"mailto:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr">Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr= >>
>=20 >Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 19:11
> Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch = >program with=20 >a file, in a PDF link ?
>
>
> Look in section 6.9.4, = >Lauch=20 >actions: the Win dictionary and its attributes.
>
> = >Aandi
>=20 >
> On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 16:38, Franck Filhoulaud [href=3D"mailto:SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr">SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@= >wanadoo.fr]=20 >wrote:
> >  Ok thanks, but i don't know where is it in the = >PDF=20 >REFERENCE MANUAL. I have
> > already this manual on my Acrobat = >3.0=20 >CDROM; But i don't find where is the
> > syntax of this kind of = >link.=20 >After i find this syntax in Manual, i will can
> > find this = >syntax in=20 >my PDF file with Text Editor (BBEdit, ....)
> >
> >=20 >Thanks
> >
> > Franck
> >
> > = >- -----Message=20 >d'origine-----
> > De : Aandi Inston <href=3D"mailto:quite@dial.pipex.com">quite@dial.pipex.com>
>= > >=20 >À : href=3D"mailto:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr">Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr= >=20 ><href=3D"mailto:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr">Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr= >>
>=20 >> Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 15:57
> > Objet : RE: [PDF] = >Launch=20 >program with a file, in a PDF link ?
> >
> >
> = >>=20 >
> > The PDF reference manual is part of the Acrobat SDK. You = >will find=20 >it on the
> > Acrobat 3.01 CDROM, or on Adobe's web site = >(follow links=20 >from
> > href=3D"http://www.adobe.com/acrobat/atwork.html">http://www.adobe.com/ac= >robat/atwork.html).
>=20 >>
> > Aandi
> >
> > On Tuesday, October = >28, 1997=20 >14:43, Franck Filhoulaud
> > [href=3D"mailto:SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr">SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@= >wanadoo.fr]=20 >wrote:
> > >  thank you very much.
> > > = >Could tell=20 >me where in the PDF Format Reference Manual i can find this
> > = >>=20 >informations ?
> > > or could you tell me the way to do = >these kind=20 >of links from a pdf file.
> > >
> > > thanks a=20 >lot.
> > >
> >=20 >>           &nb= >sp;        =20 >Franck Filhoulaud
> > >
> > > -----Message=20 >d'origine-----
> > > De : Aandi Inston <href=3D"mailto:quite@dial.pipex.com">quite@dial.pipex.com>
>= > >=20 >> À : href=3D"mailto:pdf@lists.emrg.com">pdf@lists.emrg.com=20 ><href=3D"mailto:pdf@lists.emrg.com">pdf@lists.emrg.com>
> = >>=20 >> Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 12:08
> > > Objet : RE: = >[PDF]=20 >Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ?
> > >
> = >>=20 >>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >I = >didn't=20 >make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to do this,
> = >>=20 >> >there is no easy or sensible way to do it.
> > >=20 >>
> > > >If you were to read the PDF Format Reference = >Manual=20 >in detail,
> > > >and make manual changes to your PDF = >file - not=20 >using Exchange
> > > >- you could do it.
> > = >>=20 >>
> > > >Aandi Inston
> > > >
> = >> >=20 >>On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 08:15, Franck Filhoulaud
> > = >> [href=3D"mailto:SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr">SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@= >wanadoo.fr]=20 >wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> but could = >you tell=20 >me how to proceed to do that in a pdf document ?
> > > = >>>=20 >>
> > > >> >Acrobat allows this facility, it is = >built=20 >into the PDF format.
> > > >> >But there is no = >interface to=20 >it.
> > > >> >So it is, in effect, not = >there.
> >=20 >> >> >
> > > >> >> I would like to = >run an=20 >exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this
> > soft
> > = >>=20 >>> under
> > > >> >> VB5.And i want to = >send=20 >arguments to this soft.Fro example :
> > > >> = >>>
>=20 >> > >> >> link =3D "Soft.exe hello"
> = >>=20 >>
> >=20 >>+--------------------------------------------------------------------= >- -----+
>=20 >> > >+  PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF=20 >Specialists
> > +
> > > >+  Subscribe or=20 >unsubscribe at:  href=3D"http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html">http://www.emrg.com/foru= >m/elistsub.html
>=20 >> +
> > >
> >=20 >>+--------------------------------------------------------------------= >- -----+
>=20 >> >
> > >
> >
>
>  = ><< File:=20 >ATT00000.htm >>
> >- ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BCE448.72724180-- > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:04:35 -0000 >From: Aandi Inston >Subject: RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? > >>From my reading of the specification you MUST use a /Win section. >If it appears it must have a /F entry as well. So try adding: > >/Win << /F (filename) /P (params >> > >after /F (filename). > >Try with the filename in the same form twice, and also try with the >Windows file name correct (using \ not //). > >If that doesn't work, I've run out of ideas! > >Aandi > >On Wednesday, October 29, 1997 07:56, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> hi, >> >> i have workes about Pdfspec and the example that you sent. >> But i didn't succes. >> Let me show you what i got : >> >> 1. I have created a PDF File with a hyperlink launching soft.exe >> >> 2. I have opened this PDF file with Microsoft Word and i get this : >> 1 0 obj >> << >> /A << >> /S /Launch >> /F (..\\Program Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe) >> >> >> /Type /Annot >> /Subtype /Link >> /Rect [71 737 110 749] >> /C [0 0 0] >> /Border [0 0 1] >> >> >> >> 3. I add the syntax /P (Franck) after /F .... like(i think /Win must not >> be inserted) : >> 1 0 obj >> << >> /A << >> /S /Launch >> ----> (..\\Program Files\\GPDOC-RI\\gpima1.exe) /P (Franck) >> /Type /Annot >> /Subtype /Link >> /Rect [71 737 110 749] >> /C [0 0 0] >> /Border [0 0 1] >> >> >> >> 4. But when i want to get the argument Frnack in a visual basic soft by the >> way of a$=command$, i don't get any argument. >> >> 5. I think i am close from the goal but it is not very easy. >> >> thank you very very very much. >> >> >> Franck Filhoulaud >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Aandi Inston >> À : 'Franck Filhoulaud' >> Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 22:11 >> Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >> >> >> I have never done this - just seen it in the manual. Are you sure you have >> the right one? The title page should say version 1.2. >> >> You would have something like >> >> << /Action /Launch ... >> >> >> Find that in a PDF file where you have a link to execute. >> >> It might have a /Win key like this: >> >> << /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) >> ... >> >> >> You need to add /P >> << /Action /Launch /Win << /F (filename) /P (some parameters) >> ... >> >> >> If that doesn't work, it may be best to repost on the list, to see if someone has >> actually done this. Not everything in the PDF Reference Manual works >> as described if Acrobat has no user interface. >> >> Aandi >> >> On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 18:56, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> > Thanks you very, very (...) much !!! >> > >> > In my PDF Reference Manual, it's in section 6.13. >> > >> > But Excuse me to ask this kind of question but i am completely lost. could you make an example of this syntax please: >> > >> > Soft.exe arg >> > >> > in pdf, what will be the result ? >> > >> > franck Filhoulaud >> > >> > -----Message d'origine----- >> > De : Aandi Inston >> > À : 'Franck Filhoulaud' >> > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 19:11 >> > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >> > >> > >> > Look in section 6.9.4, Lauch actions: the Win dictionary and its attributes. >> > >> > Aandi >> > >> > On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 16:38, Franck Filhoulaud [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> > > Ok thanks, but i don't know where is it in the PDF REFERENCE MANUAL. I have >> > > already this manual on my Acrobat 3.0 CDROM; But i don't find where is the >> > > syntax of this kind of link. After i find this syntax in Manual, i will can >> > > find this syntax in my PDF file with Text Editor (BBEdit, ....) >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > >> > > Franck >> > > >> > > -----Message d'origine----- >> > > De : Aandi Inston >> > > À : Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr >> > > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 15:57 >> > > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > The PDF reference manual is part of the Acrobat SDK. You will find it on the >> > > Acrobat 3.01 CDROM, or on Adobe's web site (follow links from >> > > http://www.adobe.com/acrobat/atwork.html). >> > > >> > > Aandi >> > > >> > > On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 14:43, Franck Filhoulaud >> > > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> > > > thank you very much. >> > > > Could tell me where in the PDF Format Reference Manual i can find this >> > > > informations ? >> > > > or could you tell me the way to do these kind of links from a pdf file. >> > > > >> > > > thanks a lot. >> > > > >> > > > Franck Filhoulaud >> > > > >> > > > -----Message d'origine----- >> > > > De : Aandi Inston >> > > > À : pdf@lists.emrg.com >> > > > Date : mardi 28 octobre 1997 12:08 >> > > > Objet : RE: [PDF] Launch program with a file, in a PDF link ? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >I didn't make myself clear. Since there is no user interface to do this, >> > > > >there is no easy or sensible way to do it. >> > > > > >> > > > >If you were to read the PDF Format Reference Manual in detail, >> > > > >and make manual changes to your PDF file - not using Exchange >> > > > >- you could do it. >> > > > > >> > > > >Aandi Inston >> > > > > >> > > > >On Tuesday, October 28, 1997 08:15, Franck Filhoulaud >> > > > [SMTP:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr] wrote: >> > > > >> >> > > > >> but could you tell me how to proceed to do that in a pdf document ? >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> >Acrobat allows this facility, it is built into the PDF format. >> > > > >> >But there is no interface to it. >> > > > >> >So it is, in effect, not there. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> >> I would like to run an exe soft from Acrobat,I have wrotten this >> > > soft >> > > > >> under >> > > > >> >> VB5.And i want to send arguments to this soft.Fro example : >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> link = "Soft.exe hello" >> > > > >> > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > > > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >> > > + >> > > > >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html >> > > + >> > > > >> > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > << File: ATT00000.htm >> >> >> << File: ATT00002.htm >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:47:31 -0700 >From: sgililland@nexstar.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF Indexes > >I don't know if this is normal; thought I'd share our indexing time for our >largest set of PDF files - seems to me (1.2 meg) it takes about 30-45 >minutes. We're using about the same equipment w/32M RAM. > >SG > > > > >ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com on 10/28/97 06:39:22 AM > >Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com > >To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) >Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF Indexes > > > > > > >I am experiencing extremely long processing times when creating indexes >using Acrobat Catalog 3.0. Most of the PDF files are between 10 - 100 Meg >and take anywhere from 5 to 25 hours to index. The amount of time does not >appear to be directly proportional to the size of the file. I have also >found that a PDF file with minor updates (and re-Distilled) may take >drastically more or less time to index than its predecessor. > >I am currently indexing my PDF files on a 133 MHz Pentium PC w/ 32M RAM. I >have setup a RAM drive and this helped reduce the time it takes to create >indexes, but not enough. I have tried different machines and achieved the >same results. I delete my old indexes and always create as new. The only >way I can successfully create my indexes, it is for me to close all other >applications, including the screen saver. > >Is this normal? > >Does Acrobat Catalog really use this much of the systems resources or do I >have something set incorrectly? > >Is there a faster way to create indexes? > >Does anyone know of an indexing application that will work in UNIX? > >Carl A. Krog >Systems Engineer >Bellcore >ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >------------------------------ > >End of pdf-digest V2 #63 >************************ > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Oct-1997 17:33:27-GMT,1958;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10023 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:33:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07245; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:31:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:30:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07149; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:30:08 -0600 Message-ID: <34577248.6E57@lbe.edu.on.ca> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:28:40 -0500 From: John Nogueira X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-NSCP (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Distiller doesn't care about file extension? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've noticed that Acrobat Distiller 3.0/Win 95 doesn't seem to care about the file extension when a file is placed into a watched folder. It tries to distill anything that moves -- not just the .PS's Is this the way it's supposed to work? I was trying to drop a RunFile procedure into a watched folder with an odd extension (eg. .PS_) and have our clients rename the file when they are happy that all document sources are up-to-date and in place. I've tried different file extensions but nothing gets past Distiller. Suggestions? Should I just dump the RunFile to a "hold" folder and have the clients move it to the watched folder when they're ready. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Oct-1997 20:19:49-GMT,2822;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14063 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:19:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13091; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:15:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:12:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12923; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:12:09 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971029121211.0074f468@rudy> X-Sender: jerickso@rudy X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:12:11 -0800 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Jennifer Erickson Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller doesn't care about file extension? Cc: j.nogueira@lbe.edu.on.ca In-Reply-To: <34577248.6E57@lbe.edu.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 John, You are correct, Distiller doesn't care what the extension of the file is. This is as designed. However what you can do to trick Distiller, is to marked the file as read-only. Distiller will not distill read-only files placed in watched folders. Then when the runfile is ready to go, just un-lock it and presto. Hope this helps. Jennifer Erickson Distiller QA Team Lead jerickso@adobe.com At 12:28 PM 10/29/97 -0500, John Nogueira wrote: > >I've noticed that Acrobat Distiller 3.0/Win 95 doesn't seem to care >about the file extension when a file is placed into a watched folder. >It tries to distill anything that moves -- not just the .PS's > >Is this the way it's supposed to work? > >I was trying to drop a RunFile procedure into a watched folder with an >odd extension (eg. .PS_) and have our clients rename the file when they >are happy that all document sources are up-to-date and in place. > >I've tried different file extensions but nothing gets past Distiller. > >Suggestions? Should I just dump the RunFile to a "hold" folder and have >the clients move it to the watched folder when they're ready. >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Oct-1997 12:32:34-GMT,3075;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA02797 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 05:32:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA22647; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:30:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:24:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA22217; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:24:35 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971030132526.009718e0@mail.pi.se> X-Sender: h1919@mail.pi.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:25:26 +0100 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Knut Gangstad Subject: Re: [PDF] Jump back to last link In-Reply-To: <199710301103.GAA13250@freenet5.carleton.ca.carleton.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Use type = "execute menu item" and choose "view- Go back" rgds Knut At 06:03 1997-10-30 -0500, you wrote: > >I am making pdf files of research papers. One of the things that the >reader would like to be able to do is jump to an illustration or map at >the end of the document rather than having it embedded in the body and >interrupting the flow of the text. Short of making the illustrations >separate pdf files, which are opened whenever a linked figure citation in >the text is selected, is there any way within one document to set up the >links so it would jump back to the last selected linked item. For example >the reference to Fig. 1 appears on two pages. I establish links from each >of these to Fig. 1 and "go back" icon on Fig. 1. When I get to Fig. 1 >from page one, I would like the selection of the "go back" button to take >me to page 1; when I select Fig. 1 from page 2, the "go back" on the Fig. >should take me to page 2. > >I want to try to stay with one pdf file because these documents will be >distributed over the internet and multiple files increases the chances >that the recipient will misplace one or more. > >Thanks, > >John > >-- >x > ***************************************** > JOHN MATTHEWS > OHANA PRODUCTIONS: Multimedia Science Presentations >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > * knut.gangstad@maxcap.se * +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Oct-1997 12:36:36-GMT,2070;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA02878 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 05:36:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA22901; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:34:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:29:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA22536; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:29:12 -0600 From: dhlee@marylandcomp.com Message-Id: <9710301224.AA13356@uu10.psi.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 7:15:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Distiller 2.1 for Macintosh Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /223042102/223003951/223083528/300401888/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA22533 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know where I can obtain a legal copy of the older version of the Acrobat Distiller (i.e. version 2.1)? I have the newer version 3.01 installed on the Macintosh, and it seems to be somewhat "buggy". For instance, on a Postscript file that is greater than 100MB in size that prints fine to our imagesetter ("printer") -- the results of distilling the file with 2.1 (on a PC) equals the printout, whereas the results of distilling with version 3.01 does not (at all combination of job settings). Due to possible font conflicts between PC and Mac, I would like to obtain the distiller for the Mac. Any help you can provide would be much appreciated. Thanks. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Oct-1997 11:23:10-GMT,2379;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA01708 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 04:23:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA19600; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 05:18:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Oct 1997 05:02:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA18712; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 05:02:03 -0600 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:03:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710301103.GAA13250@freenet5.carleton.ca.carleton.ca> From: ohana@freenet.carleton.ca (John V Matthews Jr.) To: pdf-l@emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Jump back to last link Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am making pdf files of research papers. One of the things that the reader would like to be able to do is jump to an illustration or map at the end of the document rather than having it embedded in the body and interrupting the flow of the text. Short of making the illustrations separate pdf files, which are opened whenever a linked figure citation in the text is selected, is there any way within one document to set up the links so it would jump back to the last selected linked item. For example the reference to Fig. 1 appears on two pages. I establish links from each of these to Fig. 1 and "go back" icon on Fig. 1. When I get to Fig. 1 from page one, I would like the selection of the "go back" button to take me to page 1; when I select Fig. 1 from page 2, the "go back" on the Fig. should take me to page 2. I want to try to stay with one pdf file because these documents will be distributed over the internet and multiple files increases the chances that the recipient will misplace one or more. Thanks, John -- x ***************************************** JOHN MATTHEWS OHANA PRODUCTIONS: Multimedia Science Presentations +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Oct-1997 14:54:54-GMT,2477;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05369 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:54:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA32405; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:52:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:46:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA31861; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:46:18 -0600 Message-ID: <3458AC54.3C1C@fox.nstn.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:48:36 -0500 From: Bosko Loncarevic Organization: Pinetree Information Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Buttons and zoom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have some illustrations scanned at 600 dpi converted to pdf and displayed as "Full Screen" (to use max viewing area and not to confuse uninitiated users with Reader Menu bars etc). To view the detail available in the images I have created a button which changes the cursor to magnifying glass so that at 800% magnification the image is seen at its full resolution. My problem is how to return back to the index page. I have crated a large button in the background so that clicking anywhere on the image returns the viewer to the index page. But once I have clicked on my zoom button the cursor changes and will not activate any buttons. Does abybody know of a trick that would allow me to get out of zoom cursor (other then keyboard shortcut CTRL+SHIFT+1 or using ESC to return to normal READER display) ? -- bdl ==================================================== Dr. Bosko Loncarevic, P. Eng. - PINETREE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY e-mail: pitech@fox.nstn.ca Web site: http://fox.nstn.ca/~pitech/ Phone: 902-468-3392 Fax: 902-468-6865 snail-mail: Torrington Place, Suite 302 780 Windmill Road, DARTMOUTH, NS, B3B 1T3 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Oct-1997 15:13:19-GMT,4082;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05792 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:13:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA01644; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:10:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:04:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA01066; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:04:48 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971030090602.00bf659c@emrg.com> X-Sender: ggernert@emrg.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:06:17 -0600 To: capture@lists.emrg.com From: Glenn Gernert Subject: Re: [CAPTR] capture1.0 vs capture2.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-capture@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: capture@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 03:44 PM 10/29/97 -0500, you wrote: > I have both versions of capture. After having used both I am having a > hard time actually making the decision to make the move to only using > capture 2.0. I processed the same documents with both 1.0 and 2.0 and > my end results (quality of the pdf) were the same, however getting > there is my problem. Jean: In looking at your numbers, I am led to believe that you are outputting PDF-Image+Text files. The file sizes seem to be consistently too large for PDF-Normal output unless these pages contain a lot of graphics. If my assumption is correct, it will be true that you will be visually unable to percieve any real difference in quality. Improved quality will only be apparent by looking at the OCR accuracy.....and the page recognition and OCR accuracy in Capture 2.0 is indeed considerably better. You can prove this to yourself by copying the underlying text out to the clipboard so that you can view what was actually OCRd. The bottomline.....your docs may look the same but they have become more "searchable" because the OCR accuracy is better. One of the trade offs for the better OCR accuracy and page recognition in Capture 2.0 is that it is slower. As Duff Johnson points out.....to get speed out of Capture 2.0 you need a fast CPU...lots or RAM...and running under NT is an added help. But your observations are correct.....given like hardware, Capture 1.01 is always going to be faster than 2.0. The file size issue is a bit more murky. There are several factors that can account for this. But for the sake of comparison, you need to first make sure that you are using identical PDF-Writer setting for your Capture 1.01 vs 2.0 tests. Make sure both revs of the software use the same PDF-Writer settings......either "Capture Defaults" or "PDF-Writer Settings". You do not mention if both Capture 1.01 and 2.0 are installed on the same machine. If they are not, another variable that comes into the mix is the version of PDF-Writer being used. glg +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Glenn Gernert Service Bureau Manager | | EMERGE | |----------------------------------------------------------| | 579 D'Onofrio Drive | Phone: 800-829-2459 X-103 | | Suite 101 | Fax: 608-829-3561 | | Madison, WI | E-mail: ggernert@pdfzone.com | | 53719 | WWW: http://www.emrg.com/ | +----------------------------------------------------------+ Adobe Acrobat Electronic Publishing Solutions Acrobat Capture Service Bureau +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Capture is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Oct-1997 18:37:37-GMT,1498;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10974 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:37:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA17116; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:34:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:28:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA16715; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:28:08 -0600 Message-ID: <3458FC53.7C70@infodata.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:29:55 -0800 From: viator@infodata.com (Viator, Lora) Organization: Infodata Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Separating PDF files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I know that this has been asked before, but.... Does anyone have a plug-in or some code of some kind that will split out a single PDF into multiple pages. Thanks Lora Viator viator@infodata.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Oct-1997 21:33:36-GMT,1797;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14996 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:33:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA28667; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:30:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:27:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA28390; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:27:32 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:34:31 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Mike Hacker Subject: [PDF] Printing problem Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I created a PDF version of a Word document that contains both portrait and landscape pages. (The landscape pages are in a section sandwiched between two portrait sections.) After testing this page and posting it on the Web, I received a call from a user who said the portrait pages print fine, but the landscape pages won't print. Any idea how I can resolve this problem? The user is running Windows 3.11 workgroup. I've had no problem printing using a Mac or Windows 95 computer. Mike Hacker Recom Technologies P.O. Box 310 Moffett Field, CA 94035 mhacker@mail.arc.nasa.gov +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Oct-1997 22:01:33-GMT,1801;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15591 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:01:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA30622; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:59:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:57:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA30508; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:57:25 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE57E.ECAC8320.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Separating PDF files Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 21:58:10 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, October 30, 1997 21:30, Viator, Lora [SMTP:viator@infodata.com] wrote: > > I know that this has been asked before, but.... > > Does anyone have a plug-in or some code of some kind that will split out > a single PDF into multiple pages. Do you mean colour separation? Never heard of it. Do you mean split a file into separate files? The Extract Pages function in Exchange will do that, no plug-in required. Aandi Inston http://www.quite.com has a new look. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 12:10:02-GMT,2215;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA02079 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 05:10:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA11376; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:05:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:01:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10964; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:01:18 -0600 X-Mailer: BeyondMail for Windows/SMTP 3.0 Beta Build 1-21-97 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Conversation-Id: Subject: [PDF] Form Field Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:49:45 +0000 From: "Marco Squintani" To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For try it again, more simple (part III and last) ... Last question about Exchange (or ADK): Which is the syntax form to call from i.e. a Visual Basic program Acrobat passing to it some parameter (if possible) ? All the answers give the right to the sender to keep all my thanks ("Read the xxx file in chapter y!!!" answer also accepted)... """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 12:10:03-GMT,2194;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA02082 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 05:10:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA11373; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:05:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:01:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10901; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:01:01 -0600 X-Mailer: BeyondMail for Windows/SMTP 3.0 Beta Build 1-21-97 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Conversation-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:47:23 +0000 Subject: [PDF] File Names From: "Marco Squintani" To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For try it again (part II), more simple ... One question again about Exchange (or ADK): Is it possible to fill a form field and to save automatically the PDF file with the name equal to the content of the field ? All the answers give the right to the sender to keep all my thanks ("Yes" or "No" answer also accepted)... """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 12:10:03-GMT,1965;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA02081 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 05:10:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA11375; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:05:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:00:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10874; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:00:52 -0600 X-Mailer: BeyondMail for Windows/SMTP 3.0 Beta Build 1-21-97 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Conversation-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:44:33 +0000 Subject: [PDF] Form Field From: "Marco Squintani" To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For try it again, more simple ... One question about Exchange (or ADK): "Yes" or "No" 1) Is it possible to fill a form field and transfer its content into a keyword field (one of the general documenti infos) ? All the answers give the right to the sender to keep all my thanks ("Yes" or "No" answer also accepted)... """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 12:10:03-GMT,2465;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA02080 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 05:10:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA11374; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:05:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:01:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10937; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:01:15 -0600 X-Mailer: BeyondMail for Windows/SMTP 3.0 Beta Build 1-21-97 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Conversation-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:50:49 +0000 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Calls From: "Marco Squintani" To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For try it again, more simple (part III and last) with the right subject... Last question about Exchange (or ADK): Which is the syntax form to call from i.e. a Visual Basic program Acrobat passing to it some parameter (if possible) ? All the answers give the right to the sender to keep all my thanks ("Read the xxx file in chapter y!!!" answer also accepted)... """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 13:39:51-GMT,2334;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03508 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:39:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA17501; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:35:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:31:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA17102; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:31:35 -0600 Message-ID: <345A0856.650A@infodata.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 08:33:27 -0800 From: viator@infodata.com (Viator, Lora) Organization: Infodata Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Separating PDF files References: <01BCE57E.ECAC8320.quite@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi Inston wrote: > > On Thursday, October 30, 1997 21:30, Viator, Lora [SMTP:viator@infodata.com] wrote: > > > > I know that this has been asked before, but.... > > > > Does anyone have a plug-in or some code of some kind that will split out > > a single PDF into multiple pages. > > Do you mean colour separation? Never heard of it. > > Do you mean split a file into separate files? The Extract Pages > function in Exchange will do that, no plug-in required. > > Aandi Inston > http://www.quite.com has a new look. > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Thanks Aandi. I had let my customer know about extract pages. He is looking for an "automated" way. I appreciate the response, though. Lora +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 15:35:10-GMT,2681;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05800 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 08:35:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA25439; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:31:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:28:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25229; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:28:01 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE611.B86E4C40.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Separating PDF files Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:58:57 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Friday, October 31, 1997 16:33, Viator, Lora [SMTP:viator@infodata.com] wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone have a plug-in or some code of some kind that will split out > > > a single PDF into multiple pages. > > Thanks Aandi. I had let my customer know about extract pages. He is > looking for an "automated" way. I appreciate the response, though. > Automation is a wonderful word - it can cover so many things. If I had a plug-in that would always extract pages 7 and 13, that would be automated - but not what your customer needs. I think you'd have to specify what you really mean by automation. Something which reads a configuration file? Has a programming macro language? Can be controlled by AppleScript or OLE? Has a command line interface? Applies complex search criteria to files and splits on the basis of the results? Something which applies the same rule to multiple files? Or they might just mean that Extract Pages is cumbersome because they have to type in page numbers, and they'd rather move pages with drag and drop? (This can be done with Exchange, but few people read enough of the documentation to know how)? I'm potentially interested because some kinds of extraction MIGHT have a home in Quite Imposing. Aandi Inston "Hallowe'en interactive PDF - see http://www.quite.com/books/ for how Acrobat forms can outdo Javascript." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 15:50:24-GMT,3335;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06169 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 08:50:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA26543; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:46:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:45:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26382; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:45:27 -0600 Message-ID: <345A27B8.19AD@infodata.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:47:20 -0800 From: viator@infodata.com (Viator, Lora) Organization: Infodata Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Separating PDF files References: <01BCE611.B86E4C40.quite@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi Inston wrote: > > On Friday, October 31, 1997 16:33, Viator, Lora [SMTP:viator@infodata.com] wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a plug-in or some code of some kind that will split out > > > > a single PDF into multiple pages. > > > > Thanks Aandi. I had let my customer know about extract pages. He is > > looking for an "automated" way. I appreciate the response, though. > > > Automation is a wonderful word - it can cover so many things. > > If I had a plug-in that would always extract pages 7 and 13, that would be > automated - but not what your customer needs. > > I think you'd have to specify what you really mean by automation. > Something which reads a configuration file? > Has a programming macro language? > Can be controlled by AppleScript or OLE? > Has a command line interface? > Applies complex search criteria to files and splits on the basis of the results? > Something which applies the same rule to multiple files? > > Or they might just mean that Extract Pages is cumbersome because they > have to type in page numbers, and they'd rather move pages with > drag and drop? (This can be done with Exchange, but few people read > enough of the documentation to know how)? > > I'm potentially interested because some kinds of extraction MIGHT have > a home in Quite Imposing. > > Aandi Inston > "Hallowe'en interactive PDF - see http://www.quite.com/books/ for how Acrobat > forms can outdo Javascript." > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Aandi, Yes your are correct. My use of the "word" is liberal. I think the customer is interested in something akin to your solution of "applies complex search criteria to files and splits on the basis of the results?" Lora +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 18:04:44-GMT,1419;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09428 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:04:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA03603; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:01:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:59:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA03355; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:59:19 -0600 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:00:53 -0500 (EST) From: Susan Forsman Message-Id: <199710311800.NAA14693@kermit.empireone.net> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Column Threading Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know if Reader 3.0 can do column threading? Maening (in case thats the wrong name) that when you are reading a two column paper, page down goes down the first column, and then returns to the top of the second column? Thanks for any help Susan Forsman ./ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 18:12:47-GMT,2208;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09652 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:12:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA04413; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:10:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:08:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA04214; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:08:50 -0600 Message-ID: <345A1F85.7080@document-solutions.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:12:21 -0800 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Column Threading References: <199710311800.NAA14693@kermit.empireone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Susan Forsman wrote: > > Does anyone know if Reader 3.0 can do column threading? Maening (in case thats the wrong name) that when you are reading a two column paper, page down goes down the first column, and then returns to the top of the second column? Yes, Reader can read Article Threads (the feature to which you refer). These Threads must be defined in the PDF before viewing with Reader. Acrobat Exchange (part of Acrobat 3.0) is required to add Article Threads to existing PDFs. Of course, if you are generating documents from PageMaker, the creation of Article Threads may be automated. Hope this helps.... -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 19:00:52-GMT,1728;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10590 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:00:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07931; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:58:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:56:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07659; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:56:07 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE62E.C9B68F40.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Separating PDF files Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 18:56:46 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Friday, 31 October, 1997 18:47, Viator, Lora [SMTP:viator@infodata.com] wrote: > > Yes your are correct. My use of the "word" is liberal. I think the > customer is interested in something akin to your solution of "applies > complex search criteria to files and splits on the basis of the > results?" It would be the difficult one! Aandi "Seen Quite Imposing yet? http://www.quite.com/imposing/"+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 19:00:51-GMT,1925;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10587 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:00:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07930; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:58:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:56:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07613; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:55:59 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE62E.C13CC280.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Column Threading Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 18:30:47 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Friday, 31 October, 1997 18:01, Susan Forsman [SMTP:babs@empireone.net] wrote: > > Does anyone know if Reader 3.0 can do column threading? Maening (in case thats the wrong name) > that when you are reading a two column paper, page down goes down the first column, > and then returns to the top of the second column? These are called "articles". You create them with Exchange, and they work in Reader. Use the Article tool. Some applications, like FrameMaker, will make them for you. Aandi Inston "Hallowe'en interactive PDF - can you work out how it's done? Link on http://www.quite.com/books" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Oct-1997 21:01:39-GMT,1677;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13439 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:01:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17199; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:58:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:56:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16975; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:56:17 -0600 From: Daehee Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:49:25 EST To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Column Threading Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv10) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a way to automatically create two column article thread for text that exists as a QuarkXpress files (two column)? In other words, is there anything out there that would enable me to create a two column article thread for every page in the document? I'd be willing to go in and manually insert the occasional thread (in Exchange) for graphics (tables and/or figures) that span both columns. 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