2-Nov-1997 5:39:50-GMT,1509;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA14079 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 22:39:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA17482; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 23:35:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 1 Nov 1997 23:27:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA17096; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 23:27:32 -0600 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 00:27:34 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Janet Handal Subject: [PDF] PDf's for Portugese, Chinese and Spanish? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have files in word processing documents which need to be converted to PDF's. Since Acrobat does not yet available for these languages, am I correct in assuming they can still be created as non- searchable bit map files using distiller? Can a table of contents be created in this case? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Nov-1997 11:50:39-GMT,2586;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20125 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 04:50:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA03614; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 05:46:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 2 Nov 1997 05:43:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA03262; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 05:43:18 -0600 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 06:44:29 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Column Threading To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199711020644_MC2-266A-1443@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA03259 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Is there a way to automatically create two column article thread for text >that >exists as a QuarkXpress files (two column)? There are currently two ways I know of to achieve this automatically: Artikel XT from Tobias Boskamp (I do not know if it is available for Ma conly or also for Windows). I do not have his contact info at hand but most XTension distributors will carry it, and searching the web (or the QUARK forum / Mac XTension demos on CompuServe) should find you a demo version. MadeToPrint XT 3.0 which does many many things that deal with printing/PS, EPS and PDF file creation, and also creates article threads for you. We are the maker of MadeToPrint XT so please contact me with private mail for further info. Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Nov-1997 18:34:10-GMT,1856;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26278 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:34:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA28562; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:31:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:25:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA27970; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:25:33 -0600 Message-Id: <199711021824.MAA27923@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Separating PDF files Date: Sun, 2 Nov 97 12:15:34 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Virginia Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 10/31/97 11:33 AM, Viator, Lora wrote: >Thanks Aandi. I had let my customer know about extract pages. He is >looking for an "automated" way. I appreciate the response, though. > >Lora Lora, Is your customer in a UNIX environment? AppendPDF will append multiple PDF files or page ranges within PDF files. It is currently available for Solaris and AIX, and will soon be available for DEC. Contact me directly for more information. Virginia Gavin President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 vgavin@digapp.com http://www.digapp.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Nov-1997 14:06:02-GMT,2802;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16117 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 07:06:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA06108; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:01:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 3 Nov 1997 07:53:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA05628; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 07:53:27 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 07:55:12 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Tom Mornini Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF-in-Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. > >Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that >people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. > >I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for >PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very >positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and >set up a new list. > >The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania >Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. >It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the >free mailing list manager, Majordomo. > >To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: > > > >In the body of the message, enter the text: > > subscribe pdf-prepress-l > >or > > subscribe pdf-prepress-d > >The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which >sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. > >The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to >the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as >described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by >sending e-mail to: > > > >In the body of the message, enter the text: > > help > >and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of >pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. > >Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let >newcomers know of this development. > >-- Tom Mornini >-- InfoMania > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Nov-1997 14:07:20-GMT,1691;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16148 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 07:07:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA06203; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:03:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:01:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06074; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:01:05 -0600 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <85256544.004C3B66.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:56:49 -0500 Subject: [PDF] PDF and graphics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If I want to create a PDF file for viewing and printing from a PostScript file that has many graphics in it, should I use the "downsampling" option in the Distiller or should I uncheck the option? I tried to play with the "downsampling" option and was surprised that when I unchecked the option, the result PDF file is actually larger than when I check the option. Can someone explain how the option works and when to use it? Thanks, Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Nov-1997 14:17:57-GMT,2287;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16342 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 07:17:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA06578; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:14:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:11:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06452; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:11:27 -0600 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:12:34 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] PDf's for Portugese, Chinese and Spanish? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >PDf's for Portugese, Chinese and Spanish? >I have files in word processing documents which need to be converted to >PDF's. Since Acrobat does not yet available for these languages, am I >correct in assuming they can still be created as non- searchable bit map >files using distiller? Can a table of contents be created in this case? The Acrobat 3.0 application is available in Spanish. And searchable PDF files can be made in Portugese; you'd just have to use another language's viewer. Bitmaps are certainly one approach for Chinese, though I found some interesting examples with embedded fonts on the Web at http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~chinsch/ccssa/readings.html Yes, a table of contents can be created with PDFs made up of bitmaps. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Nov-1997 14:54:39-GMT,6137;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17053 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 07:54:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA08068; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:50:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:49:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA07946; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:49:11 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: jerickso@adobe.com Message-ID: <41256544.004F306A.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:50:35 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] trouble with non-standard- fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Jennifer, Due to my experiences with disabling font subsetting in Distiller this won't work either. I don't know if Distiller embeds the whole font if i disable the option. I tried to disable the subset option and I tried to set it to 1%. I don't know if Distiller really embeds the whole font or not, but neither Touch Up nor text searching works. Then I tried to exclude the font name "Frutiger Roman", but this did show no effect, cause the fontname is changed to MSTT.... in the PS file Thats why I excluded the changed fontname "MSTT..." but there was no font called "MSTT..." on my system (only "Frutiger Roman") so, Acrobat told me that a font is missing and changed characters to dots (e.g. ".. .... .. .... .... .. ") Then I got the hint, that our font has a flag called "fsType"so the font isn't embedded properly. Ok, I removed that flag but the problem still remains. The problem is the PS-Driver AdobePS4.1 that does not embed fonts correctly nor convert the right name. Now I have Frutiger Roman as PFB-font, but can't get AdobePS and Distiller 3.0 to use it. Greetings, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) jerickso@Adobe.COM on 21.10.97 19:49:15 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.emrg.com An: pdf@lists.emrg.com, Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor Kopie: Thema: Re: [PDF] trouble with non-standard- fonts Laura, The problems you appear to be having with Distiller and the Touch-Up tool may be due to the font subset (Untergruppe - subgroup) input by Distiller. To change this, try going to Distiller/Job Options/Font Embedding and de-select the Subset Fonts option. For more information, read about the limitations of the Touch-Up tool in the Exchange documentation. Acrobat3/Exchange/Help/Exchange.pdf Look in the Section titled Modifying PDF Documents/Editing Pages and Text/Editing Text (Windows and Macintosh)/Revising Text/Font Editing Guidelines -or- Jump directly to page 180 The documentation explains what types of fonts Touch-Up can revise and provides clues on how to get these fonts into your PDF documents. Jennifer Erickson Distiller QA Team Lead jerickso@adobe.com At 02:45 PM 10/20/97 +0100, you wrote: > > >Hello, > >There's a problem, when converting PS-documents, which include non-standard >fonts. (Non-standard-fonts mean, fonts, which doesn't belong to the 13 >standard fonts, adobe delivers with all their products.) > >We use the AdobePS4.1 printerdriver (which is recommended by Adobe) with >the adistill.ppd file delivered whith Distiller 3.0 to generate the >PS-Files and convert them with Distiller 3.0 for Windows95. The >PDF-dokument looks fine, but TouchUp, normal textsearch and search with an >index generated by catalog doesn't work. It seems, as if text has been >converted to vector-graphics, though TouchUp recognizes it as an >"Untergruppe" (the english expression may be subgroup). > >Moreover I found out, that the original Fontname "Frutiger Roman" is >converted to something like "MSTT31c....." (I looked at >File->DocInfo->Fonts). Then I threw a glimpse an the PS-File, where i found > >%%BeginFont: MSTT31c32500 >18000 VM? >0 228 2048 0 /MSTT31c32500 > (Frutiger Roman) (Bold) /TrueType 0 false > Type1Hdr >9E67EDC6F3DDB5..... > >.. and later in the code ... > >%%Trailer >%%DocumentNeededFonts: >%%DocumentSuppliedFonts: Frutiger Roman > >I tried to replace the name "MSTT31c32500" with "Frutiger Roman", but then >Distiller wasn't able to convert the document at all (maybe the parity >check went wrong) > >I thought about some workarounds which may work, but don't know how to >implement them: > >1.) If the fontname wouldn't be changed I could tell Distiller not to embed >that font (since it's installed on all our Computers, the System font could >be used instead), but there isnt't a font like "MSTT31c..." so, Acrobat >Reader cannot show any letters. > >2.) If I can add our font to the 13 standard fonts and tell the PS-driver, >that it's on standard-ROM, "Frutiger" should be handeld like "Arial", where >we haven't had any Problem with. > >If I convert a document using the PDFWriter I have non of these problems. >The fontname remains unchanged and it must be completly embedded, because I >can use the TouchUp tool. > >Greetings, Laura Dietz >Mannesmann Arcor > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------- + >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------- + > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Nov-1997 15:47:42-GMT,2819;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18224 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:47:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA09899; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:45:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:42:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09750; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:42:30 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <41256544.00555572.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:43:35 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] trouble with non-standard- fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello Michael, >>The problems you appear to be having with Distiller and the Touch-Up tool >>may be due to the font subset (Untergruppe - subgroup) input by Distiller. >>To change this, try going to Distiller/Job Options/Font Embedding and >>de-select the Subset Fonts option. For any reason this does not work. >If you have the original font that was subsetted (like, in the case you >mentioned, Frutiger Roman), while you are in Acrobat Exchange, go under >the Tools menu and select the Select Type tool, select the type that you >want to edit, and then go under the Edit menu and select Text Attributes, >and change the font from the Embedded Font to the Font you have loaded on >your system, make the change and then save. 1.) editing text attributes only works for the first line of marked text 2.) my trouble causing font is erased when I try this. I can't change it back because "this is an embedded subset". >It is important to note that although this will successfully solve your >problem, if you are sending this file to another computer or site, this >PDF file now requires the other computer or site to have that font >installed and loaded, as Exchange does not add fonts to the PDF document >when you save...you would have to use Exchange, export a PostScript file >and re-Distill. I guess, that then all Bookmarks and Links will be erased as if a would use PDFWriter instead. Furthermore, I have no need the embed the font, because the PDFs are only used internally and Frutiger Roman is installed on every computer. Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Nov-1997 15:56:28-GMT,2441;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18436 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:56:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10279; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:54:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:52:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10214; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:52:40 -0600 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:54:12 GMT From: Ann Apps Message-Id: <199711031454.OAA16558@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PS and/or PDF files X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > > Is it possible to "combine" multiple PostScript files into a single, > distilled PDF . . . or a quick way to combine multiple PDFs into one? > I'm not sure if this has been answered yet - I've just returned from a week's holiday. In your Distiller installation there should be a directory called Xtras. In this directory are two files: RunFilEx.ps and RunDirExt.txt. These are sample files, including detailed instructions, for distilling multiple PostScript files into a single PDF file. The first one distills a list of specified file names; the second distills a whole directory into one PDF file. I discovered how to do this recently when someone sent me a whole academic journal, consisting of about 10 articles, as a PostScript file per page! But I found how to do it by rooting round in the files included with Distiller, not from any documentation. Ann -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Ann Apps. SuperJournal Project, Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6039 Fax: +44 (0) 161 275 6040 Email: Ann.Apps@mcc.ac.uk WWW: http://www.superjournal.ac.uk/sj/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Nov-1997 16:39:55-GMT,2633;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19645 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:39:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12517; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:37:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:35:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12417; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:35:36 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE876.A90E4180.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF and graphics Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:57:12 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Checking downsampling (or subsampling) will ALWAYS make the file smaller, which is what you found. It never increases the resolution of images, but will decrease them to the value you specify. Only you can decide how low you can set the value and still have acceptable results. Most people, except those producing results for professional typesetting, should probably switch this option on. Aandi On Monday, 03 November, 1997 13:57, rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com [SMTP:rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com] wrote: > > > If I want to create a PDF file for viewing and printing from a PostScript > file that has many graphics in it, should I use the "downsampling" option > in the Distiller or should I uncheck the option? I tried to play with the > "downsampling" option and was surprised that when I unchecked the option, > the result PDF file is actually larger than when I check the option. Can > someone explain how the option works and when to use it? > > Thanks, > > Rucksapol Jiwungkul > Bellcore > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Nov-1997 17:43:01-GMT,3154;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21132 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:42:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA15150; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:39:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:36:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15020; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:36:33 -0600 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 12:37:11 -0500 From: Janet Loprano Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF and graphics To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <85256544.00608900.00@ctc2.ap.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A good rule of thumb is to double the line screen for good quality when outputting to an imagesetter. If the downsampling is at 200 dpi, you would have enough resolution for a 100 linescreen. If there is more data, it will be disgarded at the RIP. If there is too little data, images will appear pixelized. Janet Checking downsampling (or subsampling) will ALWAYS make the file smaller, which is what you found. It never increases the resolution of images, but will decrease them to the value you specify. Only you can decide how low you can set the value and still have acceptable results. Most people, except those producing results for professional typesetting, should probably switch this option on. Aandi On Monday, 03 November, 1997 13:57, rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com [SMTP:rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com] wrote: > > > If I want to create a PDF file for viewing and printing from a PostScript > file that has many graphics in it, should I use the "downsampling" option > in the Distiller or should I uncheck the option? I tried to play with the > "downsampling" option and was surprised that when I unchecked the option, > the result PDF file is actually larger than when I check the option. Can > someone explain how the option works and when to use it? > > Thanks, > > Rucksapol Jiwungkul > Bellcore > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Nov-1997 18:12:29-GMT,1562;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22051 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:12:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA16286; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:09:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:08:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA16212; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:08:16 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:10:09 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Gishani Ratnayke Subject: [PDF] pdf within frames in IE Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hi, I am using Acrobat 3, IIS server ver 3, WINNT 4 with service pack 3, IE 3.02 PDF has been optimized... I don't know what else I need to do to stop the pdf from continuously blinking within the frame and finally, makes it crash. If this is not a known bug... has anyone experienced this issue??? Thank you, Gishani +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Nov-1997 21:59:00-GMT,3627;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27535 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:58:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22492; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:54:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:51:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22392; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:51:12 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE8FE.F7D37960@slsyd54p28.ozemail.com.au> From: Andrew Goodwin To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:51:31 +-1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCE8FE.F7DCA120" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCE8FE.F7DCA120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I am linking to PDF files over an intranet. Is there a special way to = do this ?? When i link them normally, i can open the specified document - but = instead of going to the specified page - it goes to the first page!... = wierd :).. If anyone has any documentation on proper inter-document web linking i = would apreciate it Regards, Andrew. Qultech Imaging.. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Translating PDF to HTML, how to keep page layout the same? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have PDF web pages that we translate into HTML web pages. Right now we take the document apart with Acrobat Exchange and cut and paste to put it back together. Needless to say this can be very time consuming. Is there a way to use Access or another program to translate the documents and how to keep layout identical with the placement of text and graphics? We tried the Access demo, and it didn't keep the layout. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Nov-1997 23:32:56-GMT,4846;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29967 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:32:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25899; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:28:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:26:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA25753; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:26:19 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE8AF.ACC454C0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:14:32 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCE8AF.ACC454C0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCE8AF.ACC454C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Monday, 03 November, 1997 21:52, Andrew Goodwin [SMTP:quiltech@ozemail.com.au] wrote: > > I am linking to PDF files over an intranet. Is there a special way to do this ?? > > When i link them normally, i can open the specified document - but instead of going > to the specified page - it goes to the first page!... wierd :).. Intranet is the same as the internet in this respect. Provided you make your cross-document links in the recommended way that should be followed. That is, use GO TO VIEW, not OPEN FILE to move between PDF files. 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Is there a special way to do this ?? > > When i link them normally, i can open the specified document - but instead of going > to the specified page - it goes to the first page!... wierd :).. Intranet is the same as the internet in this respect. Provided you make your cross-document links in the recommended way that should be followed. That is, use GO TO VIEW, not OPEN FILE to move between PDF files. 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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:33:42 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 What you seek is impossible in general. HTML cannot represent layout nearly as flexibly as PDF - if it did there would be no need for PDF. In general, you should be looking at your whole workflow. Anything that involves translating VIA PDF is usually a mistake. It is usually better to go back to a common ancestor. Aandi Inston http://www.quite.com/ On Monday, 03 November, 1997 22:42, Debra Thorne/Project Manger [SMTP:dthorne@netphoria.com] wrote: > > We have PDF web pages that we translate into HTML web pages. Right now > we take the document apart with Acrobat Exchange and cut and paste to > put it back together. Needless to say this can be very time consuming. > Is there a way to use Access or another program to translate the > documents and how to keep layout identical with the placement of text > and graphics? We tried the Access demo, and it didn't keep the layout. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Nov-1997 13:34:36-GMT,2026;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15397 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 06:34:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA14615; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:30:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:26:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14419; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:26:40 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:28:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "Dave B.Kew" Subject: [PDF] PDF to -MS Word- Toughie! Cc: dkew@interlog.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a tough question? I want to take a MS Word file into Quark and either export out as MS Word (RTF) or my preference is to "Export as" MS Word from PDF, retaining all information including frames/boards/pics (could be low res?) for triggers and authoring. P.S. importing into Quark I will use RTF2XPress I need to export from Quark and end up with a MS Word file with added / updated arrows/pics etc from Quark Thank you in advance, please CC me directly too. Dave Kew _/_/ Kew & Associates Office (416) 406-0207 Fax (416) 406-2656 E-Mail dkew@interlog.com Advanced Technology Specialist: Data communications (ISDN), Direct to workflows for the Printing /Pre-Press / Media Industry. ------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Nov-1997 16:06:22-GMT,2248;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18479 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:06:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19577; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:00:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:52:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19185; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:52:26 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE939.CB36B8A0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Cc: "'dkew@interlog.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF to -MS Word- Toughie! Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:44:12 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Think about what you're asking for. You want to 1. take a word document 2. bring the word document into QuarkXPress to let you do things that Word can't handle 3. bring the XPress document back into Word, with all the things Word can't handle. Am I missing something, or is this pretty much trying for the impossible? Aandi On Tuesday, 4 November, 1997 13:29, Dave B.Kew [SMTP:dkew@interlog.com] wrote: > > I have a tough question? > I want to take a MS Word file into Quark and either export out as MS Word > (RTF) or my preference is to "Export as" MS Word from PDF, retaining all > information including frames/boards/pics (could be low res?) for triggers > and authoring. > > P.S. importing into Quark I will use RTF2XPress > > > I need to export from Quark and end up with a MS Word file with added / > updated arrows/pics etc from Quark +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Nov-1997 16:46:53-GMT,1608;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19433 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:46:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21651; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:43:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:42:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21528; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:42:22 -0600 Message-ID: <345F50F2.DFF2C951@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 08:44:34 -0800 From: Andrew & Barbara Des Lauriers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF LIST Subject: [PDF] DISTILLER VS PDF WRITER Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can any one help me,

I am trying to figure out what situations are optimum for using Distiller, and what situations are optimum for using using PDF Writer.

I would also be interested in knowing if anyone is using distiller to do a job that PDF Writer is usually responsible for.

Andrew +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Nov-1997 17:11:46-GMT,2999;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20133 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:11:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23190; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:09:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:05:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22989; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:05:47 -0600 Message-ID: <345F564C.25A9@acm.org> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 11:07:24 -0600 From: sdpoe Organization: Xenos Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com CC: dthorne@netphoria.com, johnw@xenosgroup.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Translating PDF to HTML References: <199711041552.JAA19206@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 at 16:42:02, Debra Thorne/Project Manger wrote: > > We have PDF web pages that we translate into HTML web pages. Right now > we take the document apart with Acrobat Exchange and cut and paste to > put it back together. Needless to say this can be very time consuming. > Is there a way to use Access or another program to translate the > documents and how to keep layout identical with the placement of text > and graphics? We tried the Access demo, and it didn't keep the layout. As per Aandi Inston's reply, what you are asking cannot be done with HTML markup - HTML just wasn't designed to do what PDF does. If you're interested in some background, go to "http://www.xenosgroup.com/files/files.htm" and take a look at the presentation "The Future of HTML and Your Web Coding Universe"; it discusses what HTML and PDF were designed to do (and not designed to do). The only solution I can think of to what you are asking (or at least to what I think you're asking - a Web browser-viewable solution that doesn't require the Acrobat Viewer plug-in) is to convert each PDF page into a full-page GIF or JPEG, wrap minimal HTML around the image, and display. Yes, it's A solution - I didn't say it was clean, neat, or elegant. :-) Good luck, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Director of Research & Applied Technology The Xenos Group http://www.xenosgroup.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.663.0353 "Dilbert is my life..." =================================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Nov-1997 17:17:59-GMT,1664;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20289 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:17:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23470; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:15:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:12:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA23341; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:12:55 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971104121611.007e5100@mail.spyder.net> X-Sender: troberts@mail.spyder.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 12:16:11 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Tony Roberts Subject: [PDF] Delete files in watched folder? In-Reply-To: <01BCE939.CB36B8A0.quite@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In working with Distiller 3.01 on a Windows 95 PC, I have set the option to have Distiller delete PS and PDF files in the watched folder after 5 days. However, no files are ever deleted. Is there a trick to making this work? Thanks, Tony Roberts (troberts@editorialservice.com) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Nov-1997 18:01:18-GMT,1918;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21455 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:01:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA25256; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:57:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:55:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA25120; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:55:55 -0600 From: Matthew_J_Neal@sbphrd.com X-Lotus-Fromdomain: SB_PHARM_RD To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-Id: <85256545.0062DC3F.00@uksmtp01.ha.uk.sbphrd.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:03:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] DISTILLER VS PDF WRITER Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: From: Matthew J Neal @ SB_PHARM_RD Date: 04-Nov-97 18:03:32 Subject: Re: [PDF] DISTILLER VS PDF WRITER Categories: I have found the only difference to be how things paginate. Distiller maintains the pagination of a laser printer (i.e. - post script driver), whereas the PDF Writer seems to have it's own settings. Therefore, if I have a document in Word, that would be printed hardcopy to a LaserJet, in order to get a PDF file that matches hardcopy Word version, I need to send it through distiller. Color Graphics also seem to have mixed results depending on which one you use, but I have no definative proof or examples. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Nov-1997 18:16:43-GMT,1522;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21890 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:16:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA25975; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:13:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:11:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25844; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:11:56 -0600 From: prandle@icpsr.umich.edu Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971104131434.007a3cb0@icpsr.umich.edu> X-Sender: prandle@icpsr.umich.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 13:14:34 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] writer vs. distiller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello all, We get much better results with WordPerfect documents when we use Distiller instead of the PDFWriter. This is not true for every document, but it is true more often than not with the documents we deal with. Pat Randle +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Nov-1997 18:57:10-GMT,1862;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22881 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:57:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA27468; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:54:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:52:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA27354; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:52:53 -0600 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 13:54:09 -0500 From: Janet Loprano Subject: [PDF] pdf writer vs. distiller To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <85256545.00672577.00@ctc2.ap.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA27351 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All, This is from a correspondence I received directly from Adobe: "The Acrobat PDFWriter which comes with Adobe Acrobat generates insufficient quality and resolution for prepress work. For consistency and best quality, always use the version of Adobe?s PostScript Printer driver that comes with Acrobat 3.01 to generate PDF files.This driver also includes a program called Distiller Assistant which activates Distiller directly from the printer driver dialog box." I hope this helps shed some light. Janet +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Nov-1997 22:36:55-GMT,3972;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28235 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:36:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA09978; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:34:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:30:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09755; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:30:05 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: METLIFE@METLIFENET From: "Elissa Sampson" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <85256545.007AE30D.00@MetGwy02.metlife.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:32:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDf's for Portugese, Chinese and Spanish? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 11/04/97 05:32 PM In response to G. Cosmini's posting: Can the Spanish language version be purchased in the United States and if so, must it be run on a Spanish language operating system? I have an internationally based user that is interested in taking Spanish Word '97 files that were created on a Mexican Spanish Win '95 system with a mixture of Type 1 and True Type fonts and converting them to PDF. While I'm comfortable that using the US version of PageMaker 6.5 and choosing Spanish language characters and generating a PDF file with US Acrobat software would work, I'm not sure how a US based version of Acrobat would handle the Spanish Word files (and their attendent fonts). Is the best bet running the Spanish version of Acrobat on a Win '95 Spanish version? Are there other options to consider? Also, has anyone worked with DigiDox' or Ambia (InfoData)'s tools to create hypertext manuals from non-English language files? Incidentally, I had a little luck playing with Chinese and Acrobat lately. Exported EPS files from PageMaker on a US Windows PC that is running a Chinese language program that supports double-byte fonts. The test file is big but it looks good and prints properly. Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Elissa Sampson/Bsg/MetLife/US) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDf's for Portugese, Chinese and Spanish? >PDf's for Portugese, Chinese and Spanish? >I have files in word processing documents which need to be converted to >PDF's. Since Acrobat does not yet available for these languages, am I >correct in assuming they can still be created as non- searchable bit map >files using distiller? Can a table of contents be created in this case? The Acrobat 3.0 application is available in Spanish. And searchable PDF files can be made in Portugese; you'd just have to use another language's viewer. Bitmaps are certainly one approach for Chinese, though I found some interesting examples with embedded fonts on the Web at http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~chinsch/ccssa/readings.html Yes, a table of contents can be created with PDFs made up of bitmaps. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Nov-1997 23:26:53-GMT,2949;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29355 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:26:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA11646; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:24:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:22:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11517; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:22:41 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: METLIFE@METLIFENET From: "Elissa Sampson" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <85256545.00808194.00@MetGwy02.metlife.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:25:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem Printing Truetype Century Schoolbook font. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 11/04/97 06:25 PM I've run into the same problem. If I use PDFWriter I need to embed the Symbol font that Word uses in order to get the smart quotes and other special symbol characters to work. I embed them in the PDFWriter settings as "embed always" in order to dispense with this problem. Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Elissa Sampson/Bsg/MetLife/US) Subject: [PDF] Problem Printing Truetype Century Schoolbook font. We're new to Acrobat, so if this question is naive, plse be patient: I have a .PDF file created in Word 97 using the TrueType Century Schoolbook font. When printing this file, there seem to be several problems with character widths of a few characters which causes misalignment of lines in the output. Characters which aren't processed correctly include, at least, Em dash, opening double quote, and opening single quote. We've tried all variations we can think of for font substitution and True Type ont downloading, but have been unable to solve the problem. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Dick Christensen --------------------------- R. L. Christensen rlc@christensen.com Joe Christensen, Inc. 800-228-5030 1540 Adams. St. 402-476-3094 (FAX) Lincoln, NE 68521 --------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Nov-1997 23:52:46-GMT,2707;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29935 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:52:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA12518; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:49:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:47:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12420; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:47:42 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:49:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BCE939.CB36B8A0.quite@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "Dave B.Kew" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF to -MS Word- Toughie! Cc: Aandi Inston Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Think about what you're asking for. Aandi: Thank you for your response. Correction, are you also saying that I cannot create (export) a MSWord file from PDF too? ( retaining all the embedded ingredients from the PDF? ) Best Dave Kew > >You want to > >1. take a word document >2. bring the word document into QuarkXPress to let you do things that Word >can't handle >3. bring the XPress document back into Word, with all the things Word >can't handle. > >Am I missing something, or is this pretty much trying for the impossible? > >Aandi > >On Tuesday, 4 November, 1997 13:29, Dave B.Kew [SMTP:dkew@interlog.com] wrote: >> >> I have a tough question? >> I want to take a MS Word file into Quark and either export out as MS Word >> (RTF) or my preference is to "Export as" MS Word from PDF, retaining all >> information including frames/boards/pics (could be low res?) for triggers >> and authoring. >> >> P.S. importing into Quark I will use RTF2XPress >> >> >> I need to export from Quark and end up with a MS Word file with added / >> updated arrows/pics etc from Quark _/_/ Kew & Associates Office (416) 406-0207 Fax (416) 406-2656 E-Mail dkew@interlog.com Advanced Technology Specialist: Data communications (ISDN), Direct to workflows for the Printing /Pre-Press / Media Industry. ------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 9:36:00-GMT,3618;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11559 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 02:35:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA26496; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:33:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:28:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA26346; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:28:37 -0600 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:20:48 +0000 (GMT) From: "Edward M. Bradburn" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF to -MS Word- Toughie! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The program Aerial takes a PDF and exports RT. Worked fine on the (simple) document I used to test it. Basically it's just a text extraction tool, though. cheers, Ed Bradburn On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Dave B.Kew wrote: > > >Think about what you're asking for. > > Aandi: > Thank you for your response. > > Correction, are you also saying that I cannot create (export) a MSWord file > from PDF too? > ( retaining all the embedded ingredients from the PDF? ) > > > Best > > > Dave Kew > > > > > > > > > >You want to > > > >1. take a word document > >2. bring the word document into QuarkXPress to let you do things that Word > >can't handle > >3. bring the XPress document back into Word, with all the things Word > >can't handle. > > > >Am I missing something, or is this pretty much trying for the impossible? > > > >Aandi > > > >On Tuesday, 4 November, 1997 13:29, Dave B.Kew [SMTP:dkew@interlog.com] wrote: > >> > >> I have a tough question? > >> I want to take a MS Word file into Quark and either export out as MS Word > >> (RTF) or my preference is to "Export as" MS Word from PDF, retaining all > >> information including frames/boards/pics (could be low res?) for triggers > >> and authoring. > >> > >> P.S. importing into Quark I will use RTF2XPress > >> > >> > >> I need to export from Quark and end up with a MS Word file with added / > >> updated arrows/pics etc from Quark > > > _/_/ Kew & Associates > Office (416) 406-0207 > Fax (416) 406-2656 > E-Mail dkew@interlog.com > > Advanced Technology Specialist: > Data communications (ISDN), > Direct to workflows > for the Printing /Pre-Press / Media Industry. > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ **************************************** Edward M. Bradburn DTP & Production Centre for Continuing Education University of Bath BATH BA2 7AY Tel: (+44) 01225 323864 **************************************** +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 12:55:47-GMT,1658;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14787 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 05:55:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA30977; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 06:52:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 06:48:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA30861; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 06:48:28 -0600 Message-Id: <199711051250.NAA54348@venere.inet.it> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Luca Manzato" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:53:41 +0000 Subject: [PDF] Protecting PDF X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.21) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm looking for a way to distribute PDF files in order that only authorized people can open and read them. The password protection in not enough! The idea is the possibility to have HW or SW key so that the files could be read only on one PC or Mac. Ideas? Thanks Luca Manzato La Tipografica Varese S.p.a. Via Cherso, 2 21100 VARESE - ITALY Tel: +39 332 330444 Fax: +39 332 331737 http://www.infopoint.it +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 13:47:24-GMT,1729;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15775 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 06:47:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA32432; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:44:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:41:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA32307; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:41:10 -0600 Message-ID: <346077E3.C8906C42@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 08:43:00 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat Talk , PDF Discussion List Subject: [PDF] Acro Reader/UNIX Forms plug-in: where? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Imagine my surprise when testing PDF forms on multiple platforms when I found that the Forms plug-in itself does not seem to be in the Reader distribution for any UNIX platform. Seems like a *huge* oversight to me. Am I missing something? Has anyone else dealt with this before? TIA, Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 14:01:36-GMT,1913;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16080 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:01:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA00316; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:57:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:54:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA00142; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:54:10 -0600 Message-Id: <199711051355.OAA01994@drno.prac.cs.utwente.nl> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Arnoud Jippes" Organization: University of Twente To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:02:03 +0000 Subject: [PDF] NC and PDF References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are considering to use NC's as public terminals to access the www version of our catalog (and others). Can PDF be read with a browser on a NC (Like HotJava)? I guess you'll need a Java version of the Acrobat reader. Is Adobe planning to make such a reader applet? Or someone else? Thank you, Arnoud. (yes I submitted a question form at the adobe site... some time ago...) -------------------- Arnoud Jippes UT-WebDOC University of Twente webdoc@ub.utwente.nl http://www.ub.utwente.nl/webdoc/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 14:43:36-GMT,1553;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16853 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:43:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA01973; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:40:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:38:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01868; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:38:22 -0600 From: Christian_Stockmar@agi-imc.de X-Lotus-FromDomain: AGI@GBSNET To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:40:40 +0100 Subject: [PDF] fixed window position ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi ! I'd like to fix the positon of the Exchange-Window on my WinNT-Desktop, so that it appeares on the defined position every time it's launched. Does anybody know if this is possible and where to do those settings? Thanks ! Christian Stockmar AGI - Information Management Consultants christian_stockmar@agi-imc.de +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 15:20:07-GMT,6541;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17743 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:20:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03318; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:16:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:13:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03182; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:13:28 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCE9FD.97604E00@Rockhse2.docctrl.com> From: Dave Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Protecting PDF Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:18:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCE9FD.9778B800" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCE9FD.9778B800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With our PDFcontrol product you could arrange it so that the PDFfile was only open by PCs or MACs with a plug-in you provide. For further details please check our web site "www.docctrl.com" drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: Luca Manzato [SMTP:luca.manzato@infopoint.it] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 1:54 PM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Protecting PDF I'm looking for a way to distribute PDF files in order that only authorized people can open and read them. The password protection in not enough! The idea is the possibility to have HW or SW key so that the files could be read only on one PC or Mac. Ideas? Thanks Luca Manzato La Tipografica Varese S.p.a. 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Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:43:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA04287; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:40:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:37:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA04135; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:37:55 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEA00.D9F76520.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acro Reader/UNIX Forms plug-in: where? Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:30:49 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, 5 November, 1997 13:43, Cory Snavely [SMTP:snavely@beacon.com] wrote: > > Imagine my surprise when testing PDF forms on multiple platforms when I > found that the Forms plug-in itself does not seem to be in the Reader > distribution for any UNIX platform. > > Seems like a *huge* oversight to me. Am I missing something? Has > anyone else dealt with this before? You're right. It isn't there. So far Adobe have remained silent on this matter, from you are free to draw any number of conclusions... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 17:59:40-GMT,2043;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21937 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:59:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09377; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:53:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:47:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09018; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:47:29 -0600 Message-ID: <3460B231.7E91B9D7@lsijax.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 12:51:45 -0500 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Bookmark splitter bar X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know how to make the bookmark splitter bar open to a different width??? I realize that you can open a document with the bookmarks showing but the splitter bar is too close to the left edge to make any of our bookmarks understandable. The user can manual drag the splitter bar to the right but is there a way to set it up to open at a wider setting??? Is there a setting in the PDF file itself, I can set? Thanks for any help, Tracie DeVoe +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (919) 335-6239 FAX: (919) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 18:57:38-GMT,3104;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23447 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:57:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA12784; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:53:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:50:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12575; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:50:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bookmark splitter bar Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:51:21 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is an instruction I included on one of our CDs. This INI setting could be altered with the Acrobat Custom Reader Installer Settings. you can only do this with WINDOWS as far as I know. WINDOWS POWER USERS This CD-ROM makes extensive use of bookmarks. If you wish to increase the width of the bookmark pane (or viewing area), change the following parameter in the ACROREAD.INI file, located in your WINDOWS directory. The parameter to the right indicates the number of pixels of viewing area on the screen for your bookmarks. Optimum viewing range is 200-250. The Acrobat default is 150. DefaultSplitterPos=150 > ---------- > From: Tracie K. DeVoe > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 12:51 PM > To: PDF List > Subject: [PDF] Bookmark splitter bar > > > Does anyone know how to make the bookmark splitter bar open to a > different width??? I realize that you can open a document with > the bookmarks showing but the splitter bar is too close to the > left edge to make any of our bookmarks understandable. The user > can manual drag the splitter bar to the right but is there a way > to set it up to open at a wider setting??? Is there a setting in > the PDF file itself, I can set? > > Thanks for any help, > > Tracie DeVoe > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Tracie DeVoe > Logistic Services International > 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 > Elizabeth City, NC 27909 > > PH#: (919) 335-6239 > FAX: (919) 335-6463 > email: tdevoe@lsijax.com > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 19:17:59-GMT,3110;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23961 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:17:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA14071; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:14:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:12:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13946; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:12:23 -0600 Message-ID: From: Dick Gaskill To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, tdevoe@lsijax.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Bookmark splitter bar Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:17:16 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Tracie, There sure is. It's in the reader .INI file. The line to change is DefaultSplitterPos=nnn where nnn is (I'm pretty sure) the width of the bookmark column in pixels. I have mine set to 220. I distribute my .INI file with my PDF files to the customers and automatically substitute it after the reader installer gets finished. Note that I'm still using Acrobat Pro 2.1, and until they get the bugs out of 3.0 on NT 4.0, I'm not upgrading. I can't afford to have customers not being able to read the manuals because the reader does not work right. -dg > ---------- > From: Tracie K. DeVoe[SMTP:tdevoe@lsijax.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 9:51 AM > To: PDF List > Subject: [PDF] Bookmark splitter bar > > > Does anyone know how to make the bookmark splitter bar open to a > different width??? I realize that you can open a document with > the bookmarks showing but the splitter bar is too close to the > left edge to make any of our bookmarks understandable. The user > can manual drag the splitter bar to the right but is there a way > to set it up to open at a wider setting??? Is there a setting in > the PDF file itself, I can set? > > Thanks for any help, > > Tracie DeVoe > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Tracie DeVoe > Logistic Services International > 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 > Elizabeth City, NC 27909 > > PH#: (919) 335-6239 > FAX: (919) 335-6463 > email: tdevoe@lsijax.com > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 19:46:46-GMT,2446;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24633 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:46:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA15813; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:43:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:42:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA15688; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:42:20 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:47:42 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: sgililland@nexstar.com Subject: Re: [PDF] DISTILLER VS PDF WRITER Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We've found that distiller generates MSword files with graphics better than PDF writer. Also, if we use PDF writer we get errors if the MSWord file contained italic formatting - if PDF is created with distiller, we don't get that error. As an aside; FDA is our primary reviewer of documents and they have specifically requested that distiller -not PDF writer- be used to create PDFdocuments. Sue descomm@pacbell.net on 11/04/97 08:44:34 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] DISTILLER VS PDF WRITER Can any one help me,

I am trying to figure out what situations are optimum for using Distiller, and what situations are optimum for using using PDF Writer.

I would also be interested in knowing if anyone is using distiller to do a job that PDF Writer is usually responsible for.

Andrew +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 19:59:35-GMT,2346;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24984 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:59:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA16709; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:55:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:53:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA16462; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:53:22 -0600 Message-ID: <3460CF1E.6334@acm.org> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:55:10 -0600 From: sdpoe X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: RE: [PDF] DISTILLER VS PDF WRITER Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 04 Nov 1997 at 08:44:34, Andrew & Barbara Des Lauriers wrote: > Can any one help me, > > I am trying to figure out what situations are optimum for using Distiller, > and what situations are optimum for using using PDF Writer. > > I would also be interested in knowing if anyone is using distiller to > do a job that PDF Writer is usually responsible for. > > Andrew Andrew - In line with Janet Loprano's quote of the 'official' Adobe response, we have found the PDF Writer to be OK for smaller, less complicated documents. For more complicated documents, or longer documents, we have had better results with Distiller. My suggested rule of thumb is letters, memos, etc. use PDF Writer; manuals, proposals, etc. use Distiller. Hope this helps. Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Director of Research & Applied Technology The Xenos Group http://www.xenosgroup.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.663.0353 "Dilbert is my life..." =================================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 20:32:56-GMT,2144;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25802 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:32:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA19109; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:28:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:25:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18892; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:25:55 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3460B231.7E91B9D7@lsijax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:28:06 -0800 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Ross Moran Subject: Re: [PDF] Bookmark splitter bar (Mac) Cc: tdevoe@lsijax.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Does anyone know how to make the bookmark splitter bar open to a >different width??? With respect to the Macintosh versions... The Exchange/Reader Preference files have "AMPF" resources. Resource # 128 has in HEX positions 000080AB the default value in HEX. As noted for the tweak under Windows, this is a decimal value of "150." This corresponds to a HEX value of "96" and appears as "n tilde" in the Mac extended character set. Using ResEdit, it is easy to find and change since the AMPH #128 is small and the "n tilde" is surrounded by "nulls." It is also the only HEX of "96" in any of the resources in the preference file(s). --Ross Moran --Ross T. Moran, Ph.D. | http://ir.csusb.edu Assistant Director of Institutional Research | Phone: (909)880-5052 California State University, San Bernardino | Fax: (909)990-7069 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 20:54:15-GMT,2122;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26322 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:54:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA20628; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:51:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:49:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20473; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:49:56 -0600 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:51:56 +0100 Posted-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:51:56 +0100 Received-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:51:56 +0100 Message-Id: <199711052051.AA254153116@hera.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> X-Sender: ldietz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Laura Dietz / Myselfine Subject: [PDF] Re: Web-Linking Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 08:51 04.11.97 +-1100, you wrote: >Hello, > > > I am linking to PDF files over an intranet. Is there a special way to do this ?? do you use the activeX control for linking or do you open it in the extern arcobat window? Greetings, Laura Dietz __ __ _ __ _ Never forget that | \/ |_ _ ___ ___| |/ _(_)_ __ ___ only you can only | |\/| | | | / __|/ _ \ | |_| | '_ \ / _ \ appreciate your own | | | | |_| \__ \ __/ | _| | | | | __/ true beauty |_| |_|\__, |___/\___|_|_| |_|_| |_|\___| ... others may try |___/ ... but often fall short +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 20:55:11-GMT,2779;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26342 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:55:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA20627; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:51:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:49:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20445; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:49:51 -0600 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:51:52 +0100 Posted-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:51:52 +0100 Received-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:51:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199711052051.AA254103112@hera.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> X-Sender: ldietz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Laura Dietz / Myselfine Subject: Re: [PDF] DISTILLER VS PDF WRITER Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 08:44 04.11.97 -0800, you wrote: > > >Can any one help me, > >

I am trying to figure out what situations are optimum for using Distiller, >and what situations are optimum for using using PDF Writer. > >

I would also be interested in knowing if anyone is using distiller to >do a job that PDF Writer is usually responsible for. > >

Andrew PDF Writer is best if you just want to generate short documents (less than about 200 pages) You get the best results when you use embedded fonts, that cause some problems. If you want to generate large documents you have to use Distiller (because PDF Writer doesn't work). Moreover if you want to automate bookmarks, links etc you have to use Distiller with PDFmark syntax. You CAN'T generate bookmarks etc with PDFwriter. In my opinion PDF Writer is best, if you want to convert modest documents to PDF. Greetings, Laura Dietz __ __ _ __ _ Never forget that | \/ |_ _ ___ ___| |/ _(_)_ __ ___ only you can only | |\/| | | | / __|/ _ \ | |_| | '_ \ / _ \ appreciate your own | | | | |_| \__ \ __/ | _| | | | | __/ true beauty |_| |_|\__, |___/\___|_|_| |_|_| |_|\___| ... others may try |___/ ... but often fall short +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 21:02:27-GMT,1559;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26522 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:02:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA21001; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:59:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:57:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20897; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:57:29 -0600 From: prandle@icpsr.umich.edu Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971105160018.00860dc0@icpsr.umich.edu> X-Sender: prandle@icpsr.umich.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 16:00:18 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] distiller or pdfwriter? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Just one more point I'd like to make. If one doesn't work, try the other. Usually, Distiller is best for the docs we handle. But every so often, we get something that's a real problem in Distiller. We'll try the PDFWriter and it works like a charm. Pat in Ann Arbor +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 22:31:18-GMT,2910;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28735 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:31:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA25173; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:28:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:27:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25020; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:27:18 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bookmark splitter bar (Mac) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:28:36 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Most impressive - are there any other items on the mac that you can give us values for: ie. (the open documents in same window preference). Could these items be modified with an installer? > ---------- > From: Ross Moran > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 3:28 PM > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Cc: tdevoe@lsijax.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Bookmark splitter bar (Mac) > > > >Does anyone know how to make the bookmark splitter bar open to a > >different width??? > > With respect to the Macintosh versions... > > The Exchange/Reader Preference files have "AMPF" resources. Resource > # 128 > has in HEX positions 000080AB the default value in HEX. As noted for > the > tweak under Windows, this is a decimal value of "150." This > corresponds to a > HEX value of "96" and appears as "n tilde" in the Mac extended > character set. > > Using ResEdit, it is easy to find and change since the AMPH #128 is > small > and the "n tilde" is surrounded by "nulls." It is also the only HEX > of "96" > in any of the resources in the preference file(s). > > --Ross Moran > > --Ross T. Moran, Ph.D. | > http://ir.csusb.edu > Assistant Director of Institutional Research | Phone: > (909)880-5052 > California State University, San Bernardino | Fax: > (909)990-7069 > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 22:25:31-GMT,1927;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28625 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:25:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24800; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:22:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:17:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24599; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:17:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:19:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711052219.RAA04810@freenet3.carleton.ca.carleton.ca> From: ohana@freenet.carleton.ca (John V Matthews Jr.) To: pdf-l@emrg.com Subject: [PDF] error opening document Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am attempting to turn a complicated Mac Illustrator document into a pdf. I have tried saving as a pdf from illustrator and writing as a postcript file with the virtual printer and distilling. No distilling errors are reported, yet when I attempt to open either of the pdf docs I get the message: There was an error opening this document. Operation or data is too complex. Can anyone suggest a solution or work around. If I rasterized the image by bringing into Photoshop would that solve the problem? Thanks in advance. PS: The document was originally Corel Draw 7 then saved as .ai. -- x ***************************************** JOHN MATTHEWS OHANA PRODUCTIONS: Multimedia Science Presentations +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Nov-1997 23:21:19-GMT,1752;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00193 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:21:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26986; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:17:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:15:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26864; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:15:25 -0600 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 97 10:32:34 PST From: "Alexander, Larry" Message-Id: <9710058787.AA878769854@clink.acad.com> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Cc: dthorne@netphoria.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Translating PDF to HTML, how to keep page layout t Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Debra, Let me preface this by saying I have no connection nor experience with the product, but I ran across this yesterday. It's called TEP 1.4 and converts PDF to HTML. The company is in the UK and the program has supposedly just come out of beta for its official release as an Exchange 3 plugin for Win 95 or NT. Their site mentions a free demo version for download. It's at http://www.iceni.com/ FYI: they have another product which extracts PDF images to TIF, JPG or EPS. I hope this helps, Larry Alexander Academic Press apnet.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 0:12:18-GMT,5521;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01470 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:12:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA29161; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:09:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:07:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28996; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:07:17 -0600 Message-Id: <199711060009.RAA01689@sportsurf.net> Subject: [PDF] Fwd: webAlias 1.0 -- Did you all see this? Date: Wed, 5 Nov 97 20:19:06 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All, I took some interest in this software announcement. I know these guys from around the net in a casual email kinda way -- and have always been most impressed by their work. But that said, I don't know and have never tried this. However, I'm going to be looking at it soon and think others here will like to review this too. Since the folks who run this list don't like full-blown Press Releases, I'll comply by lots of comments throughout -- to get ideas flowing here. The news (not ever presented to this list yet) is behind > comments -- my notes are not. Mark R. (full sig at end) ---- snip --- Subject: webAlias 1.0 From: ----> send by a listmember >New Macintosh IMAGE MAP EDITOR & ANTI-ALIASING TEXT TOOL Released > >TORONTO - November 5, 1997 - Lakewood Software today released webAlias 1.0, >an integrated image map editor and anti-aliasing text tool for web and >graphic designers. Just saw a prolem post from an Illustrator reader. Perhaps this might help? >Positioned as the first dedicated Mac-based client-side image map editor to >feature powerful anti-aliasing text tools, webAlias can be effectively used >to design complete web sites, single web pages, and graphic content for >multimedia and web design projects. Do any of you use Acrobat as image map editor. I've considered this. One would be foolish, IMHO, to make one's whole web site in PDFs. >"What we have endeavored to do here is to build a complete web design tool >kit that delivers the pixel-level control and attractively rendered text >sought by graphic designers," explained David Hutchison, the lead developer >at Lakewood Software. "We've integrated support for line, shape, freeform, >field, and button objects and wrapped all of this functionality within a >WYSIWYG, object-oriented graphic design tool that itself has the 'look and >feel' of a web browser." It is a plus that PDFs can be sorta like a web browser or not, as in full-screen mode. >A webAlias project consists of multiple panels (i.e. web pages) populated >with URL-linked line, shape, freeform, field, and button objects. A >background layer is common to all panels. I wonder what the data handling is going to be like, as is vs. FDF. >Incorporating an anti-aliasing text engine developed by WetWare Inc., >webAlias includes support for embedded pictures, 'ppat' patterns, and >gradients in text, as well as multiple shadow and highlight effects with >flexible density levels. Anti-aliasing settings can be saved as styles and >recalled for later use. Anti-aliased text can be deleted to reveal the >original, editable text blocks. This feature makes webAlias ideal for >managing web sites with regularly changing content. > >Other features include: project & panel templates; a find & replace tool >for text; text leading; layering and alignment options; embedded 'ppat' >patterns and gradient fills in shapes; ink & transparency effects; GIF, >JPEG, and TIFF export; Netscape bookmarks import; and viewable download >statistics. An integrated screen capture utility and flexible export >options round out webAlias' feature set. Image conversion for exported >graphics is handled behind the scenes by Yves Piguet's freeware >application, clip2gif. > >In addition to exporting complete web sites, webAlias can also be >effectively used to design graphic content and image maps for existing web >pages and as an anti-aliasing text tool for more general graphic and >multimedia design work. snip --- >webAlias 1.0 has a suggested retail price of $129.95 (U.S.). >web: http://www.lakewoodsoftware.com >e:mail: info@lakewoodsoftware.com Thanks for listening. I hope to get back on track with real PDF issues as soon as the 3.01 arrives. :/ But as I wait, anyone play with XML yet? Next question, --- anyone using PDFs as a way to maintain FAQ documents? I'd like to hear how that is progressing and what user impressions have been. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 0:12:32-GMT,2031;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01474 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:12:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA29170; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:09:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:07:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29031; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:07:52 -0600 Message-Id: <199711060010.RAA01921@sportsurf.net> Subject: [PDF] Your 3.01 arrived - Good For You -- I'm still waiting Date: Wed, 5 Nov 97 20:19:44 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Adobe Customer Service #: 800-833-6687 The 3.01 bug fix upgrade I've been waiting for for some 3-4 months is still out of stock. Its a CD-ROM for pete's sake. I'm glad to see some other user got a UPS delivery today. If you're waiting for this, like me, I suggest that you call and get on the list as those upgrades are not going out as they should. I called 10-15-97 to get on the list and get a order number at least. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 3:02:51-GMT,1934;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05005 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:02:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA01941; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:56:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:54:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01816; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:54:35 -0600 Message-Id: <9711051842.AB02613@atla3> Subject: RE: [PDF] Acro Reader/UNIX Forms plug-in: where? Date: Wed, 5 Nov 97 13:46:17 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >You're right. It isn't there. So far Adobe have remained silent on this >matter, from >you are free to draw any number of conclusions... But it is there when you buy Exchange. Respectfully, Michael Jahn PDF Workflow Evangelist Agfa Division Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P 978.658.5600 Ext. 5504 F 978.658.7968 E michael_jahn@agfa.com Cell Phone 617.605.5716 Reason #173 to fear technology... o o o o o o> o .|. \|. \|/ // X \ | <| <|> /\ >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< Mr. Asciihead learns the Macarena. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 13:14:20-GMT,2348;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15887 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:14:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA18108; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:09:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:07:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA18002; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:07:34 -0600 Message-ID: <3461C18D.8072DE1C@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 08:09:33 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acro Reader/UNIX Forms plug-in: where? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <9711051842.AB02613@atla3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 mjahn wrote: > > > You're right. It isn't there. So far Adobe have remained silent on > > this matter, from you are free to draw any number of conclusions... > > But it is there when you buy Exchange. > > Respectfully, > Michael Jahn > PDF Workflow Evangelist Mike the PDF Evangelist, thanks for replying. I do have Exchange--but still, where is the durn plug-in??? Here are the contents of my /opt/Acrobat3/Exchange/sparcsolaris/plug_ins: ExecMenu.api Highlight.api acrosrch.uid autoIndx.api ewh.api optimizer.api search.api vdkHome/ wwwlink.api I know what all these are, and they are not the Forms plug-in. I became convinced it was unavailable because of information I found on Adobe's web site, saying, well, that it was unavailable. This is Exchange 3.0 on Solaris 2.5.1. I won't get into why I don't have 3.01, see other threads. 8^) Do you have 3.0 or 3.01? What platform are you running on? Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 14:42:00-GMT,2446;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17482 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:41:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA21400; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:37:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:34:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA21255; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:34:57 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:37:00 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: derekn@aimnet.com Subject: Re: [PDF] NC and PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 "Arnoud Jippes" wrote: > Can PDF be read with a browser on a NC (Like HotJava)? I guess > you'll need a Java version of the Acrobat reader. Is Adobe planning > to make such a reader applet? Or someone else? I've actually done an initial port of xpdf to Java -- I call it jpdf. How much interest is there in such a beast? Is there interest in something like the xpdf distribution, i.e., completely free for use as a standalone viewer, and licensable for building into larger applications? Is there interest in licensing the standalone viewer? I'm trying to decide whether it's worth my effort to polish this up and release it, and as much as I like free software, I'm not sure I want to spend the time on yet another free project. In its current state, jpdf has capabilities similar to xpdf's (http://www.aimnet.com/~derekn/xpdf/). Java's graphics API is even more limited than X's, so that's a little weak. However, my full PDF parser is there, so enhancing it to use Java2D when it's available and stable will be relatively easy. I apologize if this is a bit too commercial for this list. I'll be happy to carry out this conversation via private email or on the list, whichever people prefer. - Derek +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 14:57:00-GMT,1904;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17808 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:56:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA22287; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:54:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:52:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22190; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:52:39 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:54:42 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "Zenft, Mike" Subject: [PDF] FW: PDF question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>Hi, >>I don't suppose you're the right person for this, but maybe you can >>forward it along. >>We're having advertisers save files as PDFs and then sent to us for >>publication. >>They are told to save them as CMYK. >>When we print them, the black type is not separating, i.e., it is >>printing on all separations, which makes it impossible to register. >>I suppose there is a chance that our Scitex RIP is mishandling the >>files, but this does not happen with all PDFs. >>All we do is output them. >>Can someone tell us what setting needs to be changed to prevent this? >>I am hopeful it's something simple the folks creating the ads are >>missing. >>Thanks. >> >> > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 15:13:51-GMT,3243;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18154 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:13:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA23011; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:10:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:08:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22905; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:08:44 -0600 X-Mailer: BeyondMail for Windows/SMTP 3.0 Beta Build 1-21-97 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3461C18D.8072DE1C@beacon.com> Conversation-Id: <3461C18D.8072DE1C@beacon.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acro Reader/UNIX Forms plug-in: where? Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:47:01 +0000 From: "Marco Squintani" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Cory, i also use Acrobat Exchange 3.0 on Solaris 2.5.1 and i have the same list of plugins... At the moment i have done these 3 actions: 1. Trasforming all form fields in link fileds 2. Asking for 3.01 3. Looking at pdf-list... """/// Dr.M.B.Squintani-Training & Technical Supp. -(o o)- ICOS S.r.l.-V.Bersaglieri Po,23-Ferrara-Italy --.oOO--(_)--OOo.-- Tel.+39-(0)532-205364-Fax 247946-www.icos.it ---------- Original Text ---------- From: "Cory Snavely" , on 06/11/97 8.09: mjahn wrote: > > > You're right. It isn't there. So far Adobe have remained silent on > > this matter, from you are free to draw any number of conclusions... > > But it is there when you buy Exchange. > > Respectfully, > Michael Jahn > PDF Workflow Evangelist Mike the PDF Evangelist, thanks for replying. I do have Exchange--but still, where is the durn plug-in??? Here are the contents of my /opt/Acrobat3/Exchange/sparcsolaris/plug_ins: ExecMenu.api Highlight.api acrosrch.uid autoIndx.api ewh.api optimizer.api search.api vdkHome/ wwwlink.api I know what all these are, and they are not the Forms plug-in. I became convinced it was unavailable because of information I found on Adobe's web site, saying, well, that it was unavailable. This is Exchange 3.0 on Solaris 2.5.1. I won't get into why I don't have 3.01, see other threads. 8^) Do you have 3.0 or 3.01? What platform are you running on? Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 16:20:15-GMT,2867;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19733 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:20:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25749; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:15:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:11:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25556; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:10:58 -0600 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 11:11:40 -0500 From: Theresa Clay Subject: Re: [PDF] FW: PDF question To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <85256547.00587AF0.00@ctc2.ap.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mike, Could they be using a "registration" (4 color) black to create the type? Doing so would make the type appear on all 4 plates. Are they creating the PDFs using Acrobat Distiller 3.01 with the compatibility? If they create them in Distiller 2.1 or in Distiller 3.01 with 2.1 compatibility, that might cause the symptoms that you describe since neither handle composite color correctly. -Theresa Clay Applications Specialist The Associated Press/AdSEND From: "Zenft, Mike" on 11/06/97 02:54 PM GMT Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Theresa Clay/TheAP) Subject: [PDF] FW: PDF question >>Hi, >>I don't suppose you're the right person for this, but maybe you can >>forward it along. >>We're having advertisers save files as PDFs and then sent to us for >>publication. >>They are told to save them as CMYK. >>When we print them, the black type is not separating, i.e., it is >>printing on all separations, which makes it impossible to register. >>I suppose there is a chance that our Scitex RIP is mishandling the >>files, but this does not happen with all PDFs. >>All we do is output them. >>Can someone tell us what setting needs to be changed to prevent this? >>I am hopeful it's something simple the folks creating the ads are >>missing. >>Thanks. >> >> > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 17:16:49-GMT,2030;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21041 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:16:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA27619; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:11:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:09:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27508; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:09:08 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:11:13 -0800 From: jayh@net.com (Jay Haines) Message-Id: <199711061711.JAA11443@jaimito.net.com> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] UNIX color problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: ebESUyB/XOkThnqQRaPeNw== Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello Emerge, My name is Jay Haines. I work in a Tech Pubs department and we produce our documentation on CD. I have a problem I would like to solve and maybe you could help or direct me to the right source. Problem: I build the art for the document interface pages in Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator on my Mac. I import them into Framemaker5 and we Distill it. We use Acrobat because our customers view the documentation on: Mac., PC, and UNIX. The art looks fine on the Mac and PC but the UNIX side really dithers the art and it looks pretty bad. Is there anything I can do to stop that from happening? I already use a web color palette to more closely conform to the UNIX palette but don't know what else to do. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jay +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 19:59:35-GMT,1768;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26768 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:59:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA00623; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:54:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:50:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00401; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:50:51 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:52:48 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Roman.Hammes" "@binc.net Subject: [PDF] Byteserving via C/S? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I am looking for any infomration available regarding using byteserver capability of pdf documents across a client/server application, non-web. Has anyone tried anything like this? Any information will be appreciated! Thanks in advance, rghammes@dcrn.e-mail.com or USDCCKKJ@IBMMAIL.COM (517) 496-1756 Roman G. Hammes Dow Corning Corporation WW2481 3100 James Savage Rd. Midland, MI 48642 fax: (517) 496-8017 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 20:01:10-GMT,1759;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26808 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:01:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA00626; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:54:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:51:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00456; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:51:45 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:53:50 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "Roman Hammes" Subject: [PDF] Byteserving via C/S? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I am looking for any infomration available regarding using byteserver capability of pdf documents across a client/server application, non-web. Has anyone tried anything like this? Any information will be appreciated! Thanks in advance, rghammes@dcrn.e-mail.com or USDCCKKJ@IBMMAIL.COM (517) 496-1756 Roman G. Hammes Dow Corning Corporation WW2481 3100 James Savage Rd. Midland, MI 48642 fax: (517) 496-8017 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 0:14:43-GMT,1742;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08712 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:14:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA08840; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:11:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:08:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA08691; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:08:44 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEB11.79C5AA60.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Byteserving via C/S? Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:17:26 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Byteserving is irrelevant on most types of network, because all common file sharing systems support direct access into the middle of a file. HTTP doesn't, hence byteserving. Aandi > > Hello, > > I am looking for any infomration available regarding using byteserver > capability of pdf documents across a client/server application, non-web. > Has anyone tried anything like this? Any information will be > appreciated! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 0:39:51-GMT,2379;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09264 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:39:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA09634; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:30:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:28:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA09480; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:28:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199711070030.RAA33652@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: Subject: [PDF] Something weird not wired Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:29:01 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For the past couple of hours I've been trying to get Acrobat 3.01 (for Win95) up and going on an NT machine. Using pdf writer and a Word 97 file for input, I get a fine pdf out, complete with its full color image. Using Power Point 97, I get lots of problems. Page sizing makes little sense, it takes forever to make a pdf and, strangest of all, the pdf is many many times larger than the ppt input file (this is a small test file with some images on one slide and some 3D text and buttons on the other slides - nothing hard). When the pdf printed from Power Point is opened in Exchange or the Reader, the slides are there but they take a long time to write to the screen - even the text only ones. This is all done on a Pentium 233 with loads of memory. Question: Am I nuts to be trying to install Acrobat for 95 on an NT machine? Bev Mitchell Department of Biological Sciences University of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/homepg/bkmhome.html Canada T6G 2E9 Phone: 403-492-4637 Fax: 403-492-9234 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 1:45:44-GMT,3523;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10832 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:45:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA12426; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:42:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:40:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA12335; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:40:35 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971107014325.00929b18@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 17:43:25 -0800 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Something weird not wired Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You're not nuts, but you probably _are_ using the wrong output "device". If you "print" to Distiller Assistant instead of PDFWriter, your PPT slides should come out perfect, and with reasonably small PDF file sizes. PDFWriter has always had lots of problems with many things other than simple text; I won't bother with details (see lots of horror stories in the PDF-L archives if you really care). Check the "PDFWriter Issues" section of the 3.01 README, too. Be sure to set up Distiller to "embed all fonts". You may also have to manually rotate your PDF slides in Exchange, since Distiller will stubbornly try to orient everything to "portrait" mode, no matter what your original layout is. I'm using Acrobat 3.01 on Win NT 4.0 SP3 with no problems (well, not any showstoppers -- yet!) Tom Thiersch At 05:29 PM 11/6/97 -0700, you wrote: > >For the past couple of hours I've been trying to get Acrobat 3.01 (for >Win95) up and going on an NT machine. Using pdf writer and a Word 97 file >for input, I get a fine pdf out, complete with its full color image. Using >Power Point 97, I get lots of problems. Page sizing makes little sense, it >takes forever to make a pdf and, strangest of all, the pdf is many many >times larger than the ppt input file (this is a small test file with some >images on one slide and some 3D text and buttons on the other slides - >nothing hard). When the pdf printed from Power Point is opened in Exchange >or the Reader, the slides are there but they take a long time to write to >the screen - even the text only ones. This is all done on a Pentium 233 >with loads of memory. > >Question: Am I nuts to be trying to install Acrobat for 95 on an NT >machine? > >Bev Mitchell >Department of Biological Sciences >University of Alberta >Edmonton, Alberta >http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/homepg/bkmhome.html >Canada >T6G 2E9 > >Phone: 403-492-4637 >Fax: 403-492-9234 >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Nov-1997 21:27:43-GMT,1672;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28874 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:27:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA03745; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:23:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:20:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA03652; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:20:26 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971106152328.0068db40@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 15:23:31 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] Xerox Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Could someone please inform me if there is a way to convert Docutek (xerox proprietory language) to Acrobat PDF. Not sure if this is how the question should be asked, but if there is any information on this I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks, Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 2:51:13-GMT,2023;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12199 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:51:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA14233; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:48:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:46:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14152; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:46:07 -0600 Message-ID: <346273EB.5CB5@interlog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 21:50:36 -0400 From: Mike Charbonneau Organization: Falcon Advertising & Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Subject: [PDF] Scanning plug-in Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I was quite excited that Acrobat 3.0.1 finally incorporated the Scan plug-in for the Mac but that excitement was short lived when I got a message stating "No available scanners or error querying available scanners". The Read Me file mentions that it should recognize popular brands of scanners; I've got an Agfa scanner (StudioScan IIsi) which, I thought, was a pretty popular make. Apparently not. I've written Adobe to ask for some help but haven't heard anything. I've checked Agfa's page for information but found nothing. Anyone have any ideas of what recourse I can take next, short of buying a brand of scanner Acrobat recognizes? Thanks in advance, Mike Charbonneau mikechar@interlog.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 8:55:58-GMT,1528;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18885 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 01:55:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA22164; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 02:52:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 02:48:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA22031; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 02:48:40 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:48:11 GMT Posted: Fri, 07 Nov 97 09:42:23 +0000 From: "Lex Jansen" Message-ID: <8223420907111997/A09115/MIMAS> App-Message-ID: <8223420907111997/A09115/MIMAS/11BB3A6A1600> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Rotating pages with Acrobat Distiller 2.1 Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm using Acrobat Distiller 2.1 to create PDF files from Postscript. Does anyone know how to tell Acrobat Distiller to rotate all or certain pages in the PDF file ? Can this be done with pdfmarks ? Thanks. Lex Jansen NV Organon +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 9:50:07-GMT,3264;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20026 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 02:50:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA23431; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:46:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:44:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA23326; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:44:57 -0600 Message-ID: <346257AE.3FDB0499@home.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 15:50:06 -0800 From: "Stephen M. Aylor" Organization: iiN Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.emrg.com" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat/Exchange 3.x - Inserting multiple PDF files X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------77885AB81E637742F6BFC48A" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------77885AB81E637742F6BFC48A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am currently using ExchangeAcrobat 2.1. My question is re: 3.x. Is it possible to insert multiple pdf files into a "main pdf" file from the windows dialog box - on a PC in one operation. I currently must use Control | Shift | "I" - scroll the file folders, pick the pdf I want to insert into my main pdf doc, and repeat the operation for every one I need to insert. This becomes quite impractical after about 20 times! Especially since all the docs are sitting in the same folder (win95). Sure would be nice to be able to Shift Click on all the needed docs at once and insert them all in one fell swoop......... Is there a way to get PDFWriter printer driver to do this directly? We're combining output from 4 Windows apps - Word95, Excel for win95, 2 other no name windows specialty apps. We're looking for a way to automate this process in LAN environment of novices. The finished PDF file ultimately will be emialed over the net..... TIA, Steve Aylor --------------77885AB81E637742F6BFC48A Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen Aylor Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Stephen Aylor n: Aylor;Stephen org: iiNCorp adr: P.O. Box 338;;23688 El Toro Road, Suite 101;Lake Forest;CA;92630;USA email;internet: iincorp@home.com title: Pres. tel;work: 714-581-2333 tel;fax: 714-581-2814 tel;home: 714-581-2333 x-mozilla-cpt: ;-1 x-mozilla-html: TRUE end: vcard --------------77885AB81E637742F6BFC48A-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 11:34:37-GMT,2046;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21816 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 04:34:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA25707; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 05:29:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 05:27:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA25642; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 05:27:55 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEB70.55A6F1C0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Scanning plug-in Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:04:08 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The problem on the Mac is that not all scanner manufacturers choose to make TWAIN drivers available for their scanners, and not everyone installs them even if they do. Acrobat won't scan with Photoshop import plug-ins. Aandi On Friday, 7 November, 1997 01:51, Mike Charbonneau [SMTP:mikechar@interlog.com] wrote: > > I was quite excited that Acrobat 3.0.1 finally incorporated the Scan > plug-in for the Mac but that excitement was short lived when I got a > message stating "No available scanners or error querying available > scanners". The Read Me file mentions that it should recognize popular > brands of scanners; I've got an Agfa scanner (StudioScan IIsi) which, I > thought, was a pretty popular make. Apparently not. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 12:06:31-GMT,2718;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22336 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 05:06:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA26633; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 06:03:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 06:01:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26454; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 06:01:04 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEB74.FEF47AA0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat/Exchange 3.x - Inserting multiple PDF files Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:01:08 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, 6 November, 1997 23:50, Stephen M. Aylor [SMTP:iincorp@home.com] wrote: > I am currently using ExchangeAcrobat 2.1. My question is re: 3.x. Is > it possible to insert multiple pdf files into a "main pdf" file from > the windows dialog box - on a PC in one operation. > > I currently must use Control | Shift | "I" - scroll the file folders, > pick the pdf I want to insert into my main pdf doc, and repeat the > operation for every one I need to insert. This becomes quite > impractical after about 20 times! Especially since all the docs are > sitting in the same folder (win95). Sure would be nice to be able to > Shift Click on all the needed docs at once and insert them all in one > fell swoop......... It is possible to automate exchange via OLE, DDE, or writing a plug-in in C. It probably doesn't help you much here, but you can also insert using drag and drop with thumbnails. > > Is there a way to get PDFWriter printer driver to do this directly? > We're combining output from 4 Windows apps - Word95, Excel for win95, > 2 other no name windows specialty apps. PDFWriter can't append files (the process is surprisingly complicated). Exchange is the only tool that will do it so far as I know. BUT, it is comparatively simple to merge PostScript files for use with Distiller. That may be a viable alternative. Aandi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 12:06:33-GMT,1844;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22341 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 05:06:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA26634; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 06:03:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 06:01:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26476; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 06:01:08 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEB75.01479260.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Rotating pages with Acrobat Distiller 2.1 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:02:12 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Distiller 2.1 - no. Distiller 3.0 - will autorotate (by default) so that the orientation matches the dominant text direction. Control is via setdistillerparams, not pdfmark (different manual). Aandi On Friday, 7 November, 1997 09:48, Lex Jansen [SMTP:jansenf@am.VESTA.umc.akzonobel.nl] wrote: > > I'm using Acrobat Distiller 2.1 to create PDF files from Postscript. > Does anyone know how to tell Acrobat Distiller to rotate all or certain > pages in the PDF file ? Can this be done with pdfmarks ? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 13:09:27-GMT,4110;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23375 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 06:09:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA28539; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:06:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:04:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA28446; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:04:56 -0600 Message-ID: <34628692.B9BD53C8@home.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 19:10:10 -0800 From: "Stephen M. Aylor" Organization: iiN Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat/Exchange 3.x - Inserting multiple PDF files X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01BCEB74.FEF47AA0.quite@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------24D51FD0E0E7EDF6DFA9694E" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------24D51FD0E0E7EDF6DFA9694E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aandi Inston wrote: > On Thursday, 6 November, 1997 23:50, Stephen M. Aylor > [SMTP:iincorp@home.com] wrote: > > I am currently using ExchangeAcrobat 2.1. My question is re: > 3.x. Is > > it possible to insert multiple pdf files into a "main pdf" file > from > > the windows dialog box - on a PC in one operation. > > > > I currently must use Control | Shift | "I" - scroll the file > folders, > > pick the pdf I want to insert into my main pdf doc, and repeat the > > > operation for every one I need to insert. This becomes quite > > impractical after about 20 times! Especially since all the docs > are > > sitting in the same folder (win95). Sure would be nice to be able > to > > Shift Click on all the needed docs at once and insert them all in > one > > fell swoop......... > > It is possible to automate exchange via OLE, DDE, or writing a plug-in > in > C. It probably doesn't help you much here, but you can also insert > using > drag and drop with thumbnails. > > > > Is there a way to get PDFWriter printer driver to do this directly? > > > We're combining output from 4 Windows apps - Word95, Excel for > win95, > > 2 other no name windows specialty apps. > > PDFWriter can't append files (the process is surprisingly > complicated). > Exchange is the only tool that will do it so far as I know. > > BUT, it is comparatively simple to merge PostScript files for use with > > Distiller. That may be a viable alternative. > > Aandi Aandi, Since I am unfamiliar with Exch/Acro 3x, could you elaborate on the drag and drop with thumbnails idea? This sounds like a potential winner! I dont beleive Adobe puts out a 30 day eval of Acrobat 3x - do they. I really dont have the time and $$$ to buy first and hope it does what I want. Thanks for your help, Steve --------------24D51FD0E0E7EDF6DFA9694E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen Aylor Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Stephen Aylor n: Aylor;Stephen org: iiNCorp adr: P.O. Box 338;;23688 El Toro Road, Suite 101;Lake Forest;CA;92630;USA email;internet: iincorp@home.com title: Pres. tel;work: 714-581-2333 tel;fax: 714-581-2814 tel;home: 714-581-2333 x-mozilla-cpt: ;-1 x-mozilla-html: TRUE end: vcard --------------24D51FD0E0E7EDF6DFA9694E-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 13:23:22-GMT,2085;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23603 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 06:23:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA29087; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:20:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:19:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29021; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:19:07 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:23:26 +0200 X-Sender: tim-jl@tim.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BCEB74.FEF47AA0.quite@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "Johan.leide" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat/Exchange 3.x - Inserting multiple PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There is a SUPER tool called Compose from Ambia that does just this and many more things..The best plugin around actually! Download a demo from http://www.ambia.com Johan PS I don't sell it I use it DS >On Thursday, 6 November, 1997 23:50, Stephen M. Aylor >[SMTP:iincorp@home.com] wrote: >> I am currently using ExchangeAcrobat 2.1. My question is re: 3.x. Is >> it possible to insert multiple pdf files into a "main pdf" file from >> the windows dialog box - on a PC in one operation. ********************************** Johan leide -- Teknik i Media -- Per Weijersgatan 4 211 34 MALMO -- Sweden [ Ph: +46 40-97 33 10 ] [Fax: +46 40-97 95 93] [mailto: johan.leide@tim.se] [ http://www.tim.se/ ] *********************************** +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 13:27:41-GMT,1723;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23672 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 06:27:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA29328; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:24:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:23:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29225; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:23:23 -0600 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <85256548.0048C7D6.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:19:09 -0500 Subject: [PDF] UNIX Acrobat Exchange Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I understand that someone can use OLE to control Acrobat Exchange on a PC or write an Applescript program for Acrobat Exchange on a Macintosh. Can the same thing be done to control the UNIX version of Acrobat Exchange. Does anyone have a program running on a UNIX workstation to optimize PDF files that may not be in the same directory without having to start Acrobat Exchange and choose the "Save As..." option manually? Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 14:00:51-GMT,3197;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24309 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:00:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA30658; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:57:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:56:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA30541; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:55:58 -0600 From: "Rich George" To: Subject: [PDF] Font subsetting with Pdobe PS 4.2 driver broken Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:57:38 -0500 Message-ID: <01bceb85$1b972800$2c015ed1@rich> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have encountered a problem using the Adobe PS 4.2 driver that ships with FrameMaker 5.5, although the problem is not confined to FrameMaker, but occurs with PageMaker and MSWord: Questions: 1. Has anyone else noticed this and found a workaround other than using Adobe PS 4.1? (note: the font must be embedded in the PDF file for the third-party plugin to work, so unselecting embed all fonts will not work for us) 2. Also, does anyone know if FrameMaker 5.5 will work reliably with the 4.1 Postscript driver? I have repeatedly tried to send this message to the FrameMaker list, but my message never appears on the list there. Problem: Basically: the new driver will FORCE font subsetting in a distilled PDF file whether or not you select this option in Distiller. After hours of struggling with this problem, we seem to have isolated the problem to the PD 4.2 driver. Steps: Enter a small amount of text in a blank document using a Type 1 font (not expert set or multiple master). I have tried several including Minion, Adobe Caslon, Dante. Now set font embedding in Acrobat Distiller to allow font embedding, but NOT subsetting. (We need to have the full font in the file, since we use a third-party plug-in to fill in text in a PDF overlay file, which won't work if only a subset is in the file). Distill the file (either by printing to a PS file and then distilling, or through the "Save As. . ." PDF feature new with FrameMaker 5.5). Open the PDF file in exchange and look at the File|Document Info|Fonts. A font subset is created, even though this was turned off in Distiller! I reinstalled Adobe PS 4.1 driver, and Distiller and font subsetting now seem to work correctly. Rich George, MD enVision Sciences, Inc rgeorge@envisionsci.com Web site: http://www.envisionsci.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 14:19:56-GMT,1749;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24729 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:19:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA31501; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:15:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:13:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA31276; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:13:41 -0600 Message-ID: <3463228C.69FF95FC@beacon.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 09:15:40 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] UNIX Acrobat Exchange X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <85256548.0048C7D6.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com wrote: > > Does anyone have a program running on a UNIX workstation to optimize > PDF > files that may not be in the same directory without having to start > Acrobat > Exchange and choose the "Save As..." option manually? You may have missed the "Batch optimize..." function in the File menu. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 14:25:26-GMT,2013;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24858 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:25:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA31978; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:22:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:21:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA31776; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:21:32 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEB88.9D82B5C0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] UNIX Acrobat Exchange Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:18:19 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 OLE does not exist in UNIX, nor does DDE or AppleScript. So there is no scripting support for Exchange; but you can still write plug-ins. Aandi On Friday, 7 November, 1997 13:19, rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com [SMTP:rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com] wrote: > > > I understand that someone can use OLE to control Acrobat Exchange on a PC > or write an Applescript program for Acrobat Exchange on a Macintosh. Can > the same thing be done to control the UNIX version of Acrobat Exchange. > > Does anyone have a program running on a UNIX workstation to optimize PDF > files that may not be in the same directory without having to start Acrobat > Exchange and choose the "Save As..." option manually? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 14:26:24-GMT,2205;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24883 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:26:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA31983; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:22:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:21:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA31753; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:21:28 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEB88.9B72C180.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat/Exchange 3.x - Inserting multiple PDF files Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:17:13 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Friday, 7 November, 1997 03:10, Stephen M. Aylor [SMTP:iincorp@home.com] wrote: > Aandi Inston wrote: > > C. It probably doesn't help you much here, but you can also insert > > using > > drag and drop with thumbnails. > > > > > > Is there a way to get PDFWriter printer driver to do this directly? > > > > > We're combining output from 4 Windows apps - Word95, Excel for > > win95, > > > 2 other no name windows specialty apps. > > Since I am unfamiliar with Exch/Acro 3x, could you elaborate on the > drag and drop with thumbnails idea? This sounds like a potential winner! I think drag-and-drop with thumbnails is available in Exchange 2.1 as well. Just open both files, select thumbnail view, and make sure they are both side by side. Drag the NUMBERS not the pictures. You don't even need pictures. But it may not suit working on mass files... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 14:46:07-GMT,2164;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25257 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:46:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA00027; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:41:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:39:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA32662; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:39:53 -0600 X-Sender: lbh@pop.wwa.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:42:15 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Lee Subject: [PDF] BIG slow down when postscript Quark file with Speed Doubler 8 installed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Wonder if anyone else has run into this problem (and, if so, what the work around is beyond a separate set of extensions and a reboot). I have a PowerTower Pro 225 running System 8.0 with Speed Doubler 8 installed and Acrobat Distiller/Exchange 3.01. The problem is that whenever I postscript a file from Quark with Speed Doubler 8 loaded....the data seems to hang up and it takes forever to ps and write the file. (For instance, I was able to postscript and distill a file in 10 minutes without Speed Doubler loaded. With Speed Doubler loaded, it took 10 minutes to spool the first page of the document without ever getting to page 2 much less writing ps file and then distilling! Total time was about 30 minutes.) Sooo...anyone else have this problem??? Also, update to Speed Doubler 8.01 does not solve the problem Please reply via email Lee Heiman lbh@wwa.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 15:25:34-GMT,5440;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26039 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:25:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA01877; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:20:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:17:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA01650; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:17:25 -0600 Date: 07 Nov 97 08:19:34 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: RE: [PDF] BIG slow down when postscript Quark file with Speed Do To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.1r2 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="====50505252515549554857===1" Message-ID: <1333231761-212327175@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --====50505252515549554857===1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Another anecdote in a long list showing why SD should be chucked for good on prepress machines. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax Lee wrote: > Wonder if anyone else has run into this problem (and, if so, what the work >around is beyond a separate set of extensions and a reboot). > >I have a PowerTower Pro 225 running System 8.0 with Speed Doubler 8 >installed and Acrobat Distiller/Exchange 3.01. > >The problem is that whenever I postscript a file from Quark with Speed >Doubler 8 loaded....the data seems to hang up and it takes forever to ps and write >the file. (For instance, I was able to postscript and distill a file in 10 minutes >without Speed Doubler loaded. With Speed Doubler loaded, it took 10 minutes to >spool the first page of the document without ever getting to page 2 much less >writing ps file and then distilling! Total time was about 30 minutes.) > >Sooo...anyone else have this problem??? > >Also, update to Speed Doubler 8.01 does not solve the problem > >Please reply via email > >Lee Heiman >lbh@wwa.com > >+---------------------------------------------------------------- >---------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+---------------------------------------------------------------- >---------+ --====50505252515549554857===1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another anecdote in a long list showing why SD should be chucked for good on prepress machines.

Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net
EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice
InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax

Lee wrote:
> Wonder if anyone else has run into this problem (and, if so, what the work
>around is beyond a separate set of extensions and a reboot).
>
>I have a PowerTower Pro 225 running System 8.0 with Speed Doubler 8
>installed and Acrobat Distiller/Exchange 3.01.
>
>The problem is that whenever I postscript a file from Quark with Speed
>Doubler 8 loaded....the data seems to hang up and it takes forever to ps and write
>the file. (For instance, I was able to postscript and distill a file in 10 minutes
>without Speed Doubler loaded. With Speed Doubler loaded, it took 10 minutes to
>spool the first page of the document without ever getting to page 2 much less
>writing ps file and then distilling! Total time was about 30 minutes.)
>
>Sooo...anyone else have this problem???
>
>Also, update to Speed Doubler 8.01 does not solve the problem
>
>Please reply via email
>
>Lee Heiman
>lbh@wwa.com
>
>+----------------------------------------------------------------
>---------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists
> + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at:
>http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html +
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>---------+ --====50505252515549554857===1-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 16:00:15-GMT,2315;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26772 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:00:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03421; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:56:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:54:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03320; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:54:55 -0600 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <85256548.0055FD8D.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:41:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] UNIX Acrobat Exchange Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 As I said in my previous message, PDF files may not be in the same directory. If I use the "Batch optimize..." option, it assumes that all PDF files are in the same directory. Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore snavely@beacon.com on 11/07/97 09:15:40 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Rucksapol Jiwungkul/Bellcore) Subject: Re: [PDF] UNIX Acrobat Exchange rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com wrote: > > Does anyone have a program running on a UNIX workstation to optimize > PDF > files that may not be in the same directory without having to start > Acrobat > Exchange and choose the "Save As..." option manually? You may have missed the "Batch optimize..." function in the File menu. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 16:10:05-GMT,2946;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27030 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:10:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA04004; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:07:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:05:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03912; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:05:48 -0600 Message-ID: <34633DDA.1A8F@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 11:12:10 -0500 From: Louis Rosa Organization: Florida Center for Library Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] UNIX Acrobat Exchange References: <85256548.0055FD8D.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com wrote: > > As I said in my previous message, PDF files may not be in the same > directory. If I use the "Batch optimize..." option, it assumes that all > PDF files are in the same directory. > > Rucksapol Jiwungkul > Bellcore > > snavely@beacon.com on 11/07/97 09:15:40 AM > > Please respond to pdf@lists.emrg.com > > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > cc: (bcc: Rucksapol Jiwungkul/Bellcore) > Subject: Re: [PDF] UNIX Acrobat Exchange > > rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com wrote: > > > > Does anyone have a program running on a UNIX workstation to optimize > > PDF > > files that may not be in the same directory without having to start > > Acrobat > > Exchange and choose the "Save As..." option manually? > You may have missed the "Batch optimize..." function in the File menu. > Cory Snavely > The Beacon Group > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I have the same problem. I have tried to get a solution since September. Good luck... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 16:30:02-GMT,2566;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27539 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:30:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA04948; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:26:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:24:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04768; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:24:42 -0600 Message-ID: <3463441E.FF4B3A30@glyphica.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 08:38:54 -0800 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat/Exchange 3.x - Inserting multiple PDF files X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This and other plug-ins are also available on your Acrobat 3.01 CD ... in the Goodies folder. (It's a bit faster than the download!) You can also drag and drop the files from Windows Explorer. Someone else said it was buggy, but our company uses it frequently to quickly insert or collate files. Regards, Deidre Paknad ................................................................................ GLYPHICA Acrobat & Web Publishing Services http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF, the Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purepdf.com .................................................................................. Johan.leide wrote: > There is a SUPER tool called Compose from Ambia that does just this > and > many more things..The best plugin around actually! > > Download a demo from http://www.ambia.com > > Johan > > PS I don't sell it I use it DS > > >On Thursday, 6 November, 1997 23:50, Stephen M. Aylor > >[SMTP:iincorp@home.com] wrote: > >> I am currently using ExchangeAcrobat 2.1. My question is re: > 3.x. Is > >> it possible to insert multiple pdf files into a "main pdf" file > from > >> the windows dialog box - on a PC in one operation. > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 17:31:52-GMT,2274;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29085 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:31:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07464; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:27:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:24:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07336; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:24:37 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:26:45 +0100 Posted-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:26:45 +0100 Received-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:26:45 +0100 Message-Id: <199711071726.AA265863605@hera.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> X-Sender: ldietz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Laura Dietz / Myselfine Subject: RE: [PDF] Scanning plug-in Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hi, I've also got the problem, that my scanner isn't one of those few adobe supports. So I have to scan the images manually and import it to Exchange. I'm wondering, why acrobat has to have its own scanning module, where so many graphic programms can deal with the scan mamager delivered with my scanner. I guess, the information has to be the same, istn't it? Regards, Laura Dietz __ __ _ __ _ Never forget that | \/ |_ _ ___ ___| |/ _(_)_ __ ___ only you can only | |\/| | | | / __|/ _ \ | |_| | '_ \ / _ \ appreciate your own | | | | |_| \__ \ __/ | _| | | | | __/ true beauty |_| |_|\__, |___/\___|_|_| |_|_| |_|\___| ... others may try |___/ ... but often fall short +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 17:31:51-GMT,2224;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29084 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:31:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07436; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:26:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:24:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07314; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:24:33 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:26:43 +0100 Posted-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:26:43 +0100 Received-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:26:43 +0100 Message-Id: <199711071726.AA265743603@hera.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> X-Sender: ldietz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Laura Dietz / Myselfine Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotating pages with Acrobat Distiller 2.1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 09:48 07.11.97 GMT, you wrote: > >I'm using Acrobat Distiller 2.1 to create PDF files from Postscript. >Does anyone know how to tell Acrobat Distiller to rotate all or certain >pages in the PDF file ? Can this be done with pdfmarks ? >Thanks. it can only be done manually in Exchange. Regards, Laura Dietz __ __ _ __ _ Never forget that | \/ |_ _ ___ ___| |/ _(_)_ __ ___ only you can only | |\/| | | | / __|/ _ \ | |_| | '_ \ / _ \ appreciate your own | | | | |_| \__ \ __/ | _| | | | | __/ true beauty |_| |_|\__, |___/\___|_|_| |_|_| |_|\___| ... others may try |___/ ... but often fall short +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 17:43:12-GMT,1601;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29509 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:43:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08147; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:38:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:37:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08067; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:37:07 -0600 Message-ID: <34637C7F.3B53@infodata.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 12:39:27 -0800 From: viator@infodata.com (Viator, Lora) Organization: Infodata Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] LaTex and Tex and PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Good Afternoon! Can anyone give me the lowdown on the effectiveness of a LaTex or Tex publishing system. What is it in laymans terms? Would you move to this standard from Interleaf? How does it work with PDF conversion? Anything you guys know about this would help so much. I know nothing of it. Lora +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 18:02:03-GMT,3796;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01556 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:02:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09001; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:58:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:56:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08901; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:56:30 -0600 Message-ID: <3462CAE9.5E540C0A@home.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 00:01:46 -0800 From: "Stephen M. Aylor" Organization: iiN Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat/Exchange 3.x - Inserting multiple PDF files X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01BCEB88.9B72C180.quite@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EEF8E7AE0507A3B309A04D67" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EEF8E7AE0507A3B309A04D67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We're only talking about 5-6 pdf files in one operation. But this will be done about 10 times a day........This may work - I'll have to experiment - "What the hell, 21' monitors all around...." Thx again, Steve Aandi Inston wrote: > On Friday, 7 November, 1997 03:10, Stephen M. Aylor > [SMTP:iincorp@home.com] wrote: > > Aandi Inston wrote: > > > > C. It probably doesn't help you much here, but you can also insert > > > > using > > > drag and drop with thumbnails. > > > > > > > > Is there a way to get PDFWriter printer driver to do this > directly? > > > > > > > We're combining output from 4 Windows apps - Word95, Excel for > > > > win95, > > > > 2 other no name windows specialty apps. > > > > > Since I am unfamiliar with Exch/Acro 3x, could you elaborate on > the > > drag and drop with thumbnails idea? This sounds like a potential > winner! > > I think drag-and-drop with thumbnails is available in Exchange 2.1 as > well. > Just open both files, select thumbnail view, and make sure they are > both > side by side. Drag the NUMBERS not the pictures. You don't even > need pictures. > > But it may not suit working on mass files... > +------------------------------------------- > -----------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------EEF8E7AE0507A3B309A04D67 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen Aylor Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Stephen Aylor n: Aylor;Stephen org: iiNCorp adr: P.O. Box 338;;23688 El Toro Road, Suite 101;Lake Forest;CA;92630;USA email;internet: iincorp@home.com title: Pres. tel;work: 714-581-2333 tel;fax: 714-581-2814 tel;home: 714-581-2333 x-mozilla-cpt: ;-1 x-mozilla-html: TRUE end: vcard --------------EEF8E7AE0507A3B309A04D67-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 18:49:24-GMT,1911;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05139 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:49:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10931; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:44:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:42:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10822; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:42:10 -0600 From: "Scott Albright" To: Subject: [PDF] Batch Optimize Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:46:07 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1333212142-89367802@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are beginning to utilize Exchange 3.0's Batch Optimize program and I have a quick question if anyone can answer it. We will be running optimize overnight on thousands of pdfs over a week period, I've only encountered 2 files that have not optimized in the past. Is there anywhere that Exchange creates a log file that can be examined to determine what files may have not optimized? Any help would be Grand. Thanks In Advance: Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC) AF PDSM Program Office TO Conversion Operation (TOCO) (937) 257-1374, DSN 787-1374 FAX (937) 656-1934, DSN 986-1934 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 19:02:50-GMT,2333;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05759 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:02:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11491; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:58:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:56:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11366; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:56:44 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:58:54 +0100 Posted-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:58:54 +0100 Received-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:58:54 +0100 Message-Id: <199711071858.AA272669134@hera.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> X-Sender: ldietz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Laura Dietz / Myselfine Subject: Re: [PDF] Font subsetting with Pdobe PS 4.2 driver broken Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I also attribute my problems with Touch Up/ text search / catalog to the PrinterDriver Adobe Ps My problems seem to be similar to yours, because only a subset is created. Disableling does not work for me either, because the font name is changed I'n not quite sure which version I use, but I thought it was 4.1. Is 4.2 available for windows? I hope these Problems will be removed soon. Regards, Laura Dietz __ __ _ __ _ Never forget that | \/ |_ _ ___ ___| |/ _(_)_ __ ___ only you can only | |\/| | | | / __|/ _ \ | |_| | '_ \ / _ \ appreciate your own | | | | |_| \__ \ __/ | _| | | | | __/ true beauty |_| |_|\__, |___/\___|_|_| |_|_| |_|\___| ... others may try |___/ ... but often fall short +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 19:16:36-GMT,2340;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06121 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:16:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12122; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:11:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:09:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12054; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:09:38 -0600 Message-ID: <346367E2.7110BDEA@beacon.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 14:11:30 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotating pages with Acrobat Distiller 2.1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199711071726.AA265743603@hera.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Laura Dietz / Myselfine wrote: > > At 09:48 07.11.97 GMT, you wrote: > > > > I'm using Acrobat Distiller 2.1 to create PDF files from Postscript. > > Does anyone know how to tell Acrobat Distiller to rotate all or > > certain > > pages in the PDF file ? Can this be done with pdfmarks ? > > Thanks. > > it can only be done manually in Exchange. Adobe technical note 5151, Distiller Parameters, indicates that the PostScript file has some control over page orientation decisions that the *3.01* Distiller makes. Some of this may hold true for 2.1 as well, at least as far as what DSC comments Distiller looks at to determine page orientation. I'd recommend looking at this documentation before considering it impossible. If your projects are like mine, having to change something manually in Exchange can completely blow your workflow. It may be worth the time to investigate. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 19:33:01-GMT,2972;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06546 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:32:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12914; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:28:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:27:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12825; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:27:15 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971107193033.0091dbd0@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 11:30:33 -0800 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotating pages with Acrobat Distiller 2.1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The DISTPARM.PDF file installed w/ Acrobat 3 describes (on page 7): ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AutoRotatePages boolean (New in Acrobat 3.0) If true, the Distiller application tries to orient pages based on the predominant text orientation. Only used if the file does not contain %%ViewingOrientation, %%PageOrientation, or %%Orientation DSC comments. If the file does contain such DSC comments, it honors them. %%ViewingOrientation takes precedence over others, then %%PageOrientation, then %%Orientation. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It looks like this is supposed to allow you to control page rotation; I have no idea if it really works as intended. Tom Thiersch At 02:11 PM 11/7/97 -0500, Cory Snavely wrote: > >Laura Dietz / Myselfine wrote: >> >> At 09:48 07.11.97 GMT, you wrote: >> > >> > I'm using Acrobat Distiller 2.1 to create PDF files from Postscript. >> > Does anyone know how to tell Acrobat Distiller to rotate all or >> > certain >> > pages in the PDF file ? Can this be done with pdfmarks ? >> > Thanks. >> >> it can only be done manually in Exchange. > >Adobe technical note 5151, Distiller Parameters, indicates that the >PostScript file has some control over page orientation decisions that >the *3.01* Distiller makes. Some of this may hold true for 2.1 as well, >at least as far as what DSC comments Distiller looks at to determine >page orientation. I'd recommend looking at this documentation before >considering it impossible. > >If your projects are like mine, having to change something manually in >Exchange can completely blow your workflow. It may be worth the time to >investigate. > >Cory Snavely >The Beacon Group > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 20:43:01-GMT,2736;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08229 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:43:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA15573; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:38:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:34:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15370; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:34:34 -0600 Message-Id: <34637BD6.3A5B@Boeing.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 12:36:38 -0800 From: Fred W Epps Organization: The Boeing Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotating pages with Acrobat Distiller 2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All pages can be rotated using 3.0 or 3.01. Thank you, Fred W Epps 253-657-8103 Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com ---------- From: Laura Dietz / Myselfine[SMTP:ldietz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de] Sent: November 07, 1997 9:26 AM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotating pages with Acrobat Distiller 2.1 At 09:48 07.11.97 GMT, you wrote: > >I'm using Acrobat Distiller 2.1 to create PDF files from Postscript. >Does anyone know how to tell Acrobat Distiller to rotate all or certain >pages in the PDF file ? Can this be done with pdfmarks ? >Thanks. it can only be done manually in Exchange. Regards, Laura Dietz __ __ _ __ _ Never forget that | \/ |_ _ ___ ___| |/ _(_)_ __ ___ only you can only | |\/| | | | / __|/ _ \ | |_| | '_ \ / _ \ appreciate your own | | | | |_| \__ \ __/ | _| | | | | __/ true beauty |_| |_|\__, |___/\___|_|_| |_|_| |_|\___| ... others may try |___/ ... but often fall short +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 21:20:45-GMT,1969;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09203 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:20:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA17235; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:17:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:16:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17147; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:16:10 -0600 Message-ID: <346385B1.4455BEB2@owl.websteruniv.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:18:47 -0600 From: Roy Tamashiro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01a (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Capture plug-in X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199711072034.OAA15387@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can anyone help me with this problem? I can't seem to access the scanner via the new capture plug-in on Acrobat Exchange v.3.0.1 on a Power Mac 8100 and a UMAX Vista S-6 scanner. When selecting Scan from the File menu, I get the message "No scanners available or error querying available scanners." This scanner is on the list on Adobe's web site, and I have downloaded and installed the latest drivers for this scanner from UMAX. The scanner works for other capturing images in Photoshop and for OCR. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks, Roy Tamashiro +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 21:29:27-GMT,2187;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09393 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:29:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA17606; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:26:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:24:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17507; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:24:55 -0600 Date: 07 Nov 97 14:27:29 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: [PDF] Fonts from Mac to PC To: PDF Mail List X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.1r2 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1333209686-213656937@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Lately we've been using pdf files to deliver generic promotional material to clients. On the pages are text place holders like "name" or "product" where the recipient will select the place holder text in Exchange and replace it with their specific info. The files were created on a Mac (embedding Type 1 fonts) and sent to PC users. When the PC user selects the text, and alert message is given saying that the font must be unembedded in order to change the text. That type of message is new to me, since it doesn't appear on a Mac missing the embedded fonts in the system. Is this a big deal? Will it still output OK? Is ATM on the PC required, and is it installed automatically when installing Exchange? or Reader alone? TIA Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 21:43:11-GMT,1532;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09675 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:43:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA18137; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:39:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:38:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18034; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:38:10 -0600 Date: 07 Nov 97 15:39:28 -0800 From: Steve Hill Subject: [PDF] Web - Site Searching tools To: Pdf group forum X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1333205100-1557595@alltechweb.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have a Mac computer with Webstar as the server. We have put pdf files out on our Web site. Is there an general purpose server-side search tool that can read pdf files? If so, could someone please give me a listing of names? Steve Hill +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 21:49:11-GMT,4050;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09810 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:49:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA18467; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:46:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:44:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18379; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:44:53 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 22:47:03 +0100 Posted-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 22:47:03 +0100 Received-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 22:47:03 +0100 Message-Id: <199711072147.AA286839223@hera.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> X-Sender: ldietz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Laura Dietz / Myselfine Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotating pages with Acrobat Distiller 2.1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It works, but this is a 3.0 feature. Its as far as I know not in distiller 2.1 Regards, Laura Dietz At 11:30 07.11.97 -0800, you wrote: > >The DISTPARM.PDF file installed w/ Acrobat 3 describes (on page 7): >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >AutoRotatePages > >boolean (New in Acrobat 3.0) If true, the Distiller application tries to >orient pages based on the predominant text orientation. Only used if the >file does not contain %%ViewingOrientation, %%PageOrientation, or >%%Orientation DSC comments. If the file does contain such DSC comments, it >honors them. %%ViewingOrientation takes precedence over others, then >%%PageOrientation, then %%Orientation. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >It looks like this is supposed to allow you to control page rotation; I have >no idea if it really works as intended. > >Tom Thiersch > >At 02:11 PM 11/7/97 -0500, Cory Snavely wrote: >> >>Laura Dietz / Myselfine wrote: >>> >>> At 09:48 07.11.97 GMT, you wrote: >>> > >>> > I'm using Acrobat Distiller 2.1 to create PDF files from Postscript. >>> > Does anyone know how to tell Acrobat Distiller to rotate all or >>> > certain >>> > pages in the PDF file ? Can this be done with pdfmarks ? >>> > Thanks. >>> >>> it can only be done manually in Exchange. >> >>Adobe technical note 5151, Distiller Parameters, indicates that the >>PostScript file has some control over page orientation decisions that >>the *3.01* Distiller makes. Some of this may hold true for 2.1 as well, >>at least as far as what DSC comments Distiller looks at to determine >>page orientation. I'd recommend looking at this documentation before >>considering it impossible. >> >>If your projects are like mine, having to change something manually in >>Exchange can completely blow your workflow. It may be worth the time to >>investigate. >> >>Cory Snavely >>The Beacon Group >> > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > __ __ _ __ _ Never forget that | \/ |_ _ ___ ___| |/ _(_)_ __ ___ only you can only | |\/| | | | / __|/ _ \ | |_| | '_ \ / _ \ appreciate your own | | | | |_| \__ \ __/ | _| | | | | __/ true beauty |_| |_|\__, |___/\___|_|_| |_|_| |_|\___| ... others may try |___/ ... but often fall short +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 22:58:03-GMT,1549;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11446 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:58:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA21119; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:52:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:50:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21031; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:50:54 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:53:00 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "Molly Sharp" Subject: [PDF] Automatic links for URLs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know of a way to automate link creation of URLs within a PDF file? It would be great if Acrobat could search for "http://" or "www." and convert the string to a link. Seems like it ought to exist already. Is anyone doing this somehow? Thanks! Molly Sharp Production Technical Supervisor Sybex, Inc. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 23:13:55-GMT,2292;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11794 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:13:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA21640; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:09:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:08:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA21557; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:08:19 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic links for URLs Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:10:26 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Molly, Alliant Techsystems' InfoLinker product can do this. Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems Voice: (813)572-2491 Fax: (813)572-2169 E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com WWW: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: Molly Sharp[SMTP:msharp@sybex.com] > Sent: Friday, November 07, 1997 5:53 PM > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: [PDF] Automatic links for URLs > > > Does anyone know of a way to automate link creation of URLs within a > PDF > file? It would be great if Acrobat could search for "http://" or > "www." and > convert the string to a link. > > Seems like it ought to exist already. Is anyone doing this somehow? > > Thanks! > > Molly Sharp > Production Technical Supervisor > Sybex, Inc. > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 23:51:41-GMT,2985;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12609 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:51:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA22770; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:46:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:43:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA22635; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:43:32 -0600 From: whitehouse@wharton.upenn.edu Message-Id: <199711072345.SAA11010@assets.wharton.upenn.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:45:03 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automatic links for URLs In-Reply-To: ; from "whitehouse" at Fri Nov 07 18:45:03 1997 X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 3.1.1 (Windows 95/NT)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Does anyone know of a way to automate link creation of URLs within a PDF > file? It would be great if Acrobat could search for "http://" or "www." and > convert the string to a link. > > Seems like it ought to exist already. Is anyone doing this somehow? If you have an old copy of Acrobat Exchange 2.1 for Windows lying around, there's an undocumented (and unsupported) feature to do this. If you have Acrobat Exchange 2.1 for Windows you can edit your WEBLINK.INI file (typically found in your Windows directory) and add to the [General] section the line "Create=Y". This adds a new "Links" item to the Edit menu with two options: "Create WWW Links" and "Remove WWW Links". The "Create" option goes through the PDF document looking for text strings in the form of a URL and *automatically" converts them into WebLinks. It's parsing routine for URLs isn't perfect, but it's not bad. :Kendall PS: Please don't pester Adobe about this. This is undocumented and unsupported feature of a previous version of Acrobat -- if you find it helpful, that's great. If not, you might want to look at one of the commercial alternatives. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kendall Whitehouse Senior Consultant E M E R G E KWhitehouse@emrg.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Associate Director, Wharton Computing and Information Technology The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania (215) 898-2742 whitehouse@wharton.upenn.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Nov-1997 23:59:26-GMT,2584;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12774 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:59:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA23312; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:56:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:54:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23211; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:54:20 -0600 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:56:32 -0800 From: "Rob L. Shepherd" Subject: Re: [PDF] LaTex and Tex and PDF In-reply-to: <34637C7F.3B53@infodata.com> X-Sender: robs@spie.org To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <3.0.3.32.19971107155632.009a5200@spie.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 12:39 PM 11/7/1997 -0800, you wrote: > >Good Afternoon! > >Can anyone give me the lowdown on the effectiveness of a LaTex or Tex >publishing system. What is it in laymans terms? Would you move to this >standard from Interleaf? How does it work with PDF conversion? Anything >you guys know about this would help so much. I know nothing of it. Hi Lora, LaTeX is run primarily on UNIX machines. You can run TeX on a PC, but I've had pretty limited success with it. TeX offers an author a lot of options for controlling formatting. If you want to create PDF from files created in LaTeX, you will need to convert the dvi file to postscript on the UNIX side. LaTeX output is in dvi format (device independent), and a program on the UNIX machine called dvitops will convert dvi to postscript. Then you can run the .ps through distiller. It has been my experience that the on screen resolution of the PDF is not very acceptable. The problem is caused by LaTeX setups that do not use scalable fonts. However, your PDF will look great when printed. A good starting point would be to ask your TeX users to create postscript for you. You'll know what to do when you receive the ps file. Hope this helps.. Rob +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Nov-1997 0:30:58-GMT,3638;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13433 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:30:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA24336; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:25:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:23:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24249; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:23:47 -0600 From: whitehouse@wharton.upenn.edu Message-Id: <199711080026.TAA12109@assets.wharton.upenn.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:25:19 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] LaTex and Tex and PDF In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971107155632.009a5200@spie.org>; from "whitehouse" at Fri Nov 07 19:25:19 1997 X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 3.1.1 (Windows 95/NT)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I don't mean to be yet another of those 'net nit-pickers, but I'd like to add my 2 cents to some of Rob comments. Rob writes: > LaTeX is run primarily on UNIX machines. You can run TeX on > a PC, but I've had pretty limited success with it. [. . .] Although you're probably statistically correct that more TeX work has been done under Unix than any other operating system, I don't think it's fair to imply that TeX works less well in other environments. There are very good implementations of TeX for DOS, Windows, Macintosh, and most other operating systems. > [. . .] > It has been my experience that the on screen resolution of the PDF is > not very acceptable. The problem is caused by LaTeX setups that do > not use scalable fonts. However, your PDF will look great when printed. This is certainly true if you use dvips with its default settings (which, as you point out, uses bitmapped fonts rather than scalable outline fonts). Some of the Windows and Mac versions of TeX come with "out of the box" support for scalable Type 1 fonts. And dvips can easily be configured to use scalable fonts as well. There's a TechNote from Adobe on how to do this (which, I should confess, I'm guilty of writing). They keep moving its location every few months but, as of this evening it's at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/385e.htm (If it moves again, you can always search for "TeX and PDF" on the Adobe site.) I should also mention that this TechNote was written some time ago and a few things have changed since then -- URLs for CTAN and such have all changed and, most importantly, the wonderful BlueSky/Y&Y Type-1 versions of the CM fonts are now freely available for public use. But the basic stuff on configuring dvips should still work. :Kendall . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kendall Whitehouse Senior Consultant E M E R G E KWhitehouse@emrg.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Associate Director, Wharton Computing and Information Technology The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania (215) 898-2742 whitehouse@wharton.upenn.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Nov-1997 2:19:18-GMT,1699;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15570 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:19:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA27706; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 20:16:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 20:14:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA27594; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 20:14:05 -0600 From: flex@interport.net Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:16:16 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: flex@pop.interport.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] font catalogs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I use a mac and often catalog my fonts by printing from the 'print index' menu to pdf. does just fine except the darn things are HUGE. usually a catalog of, say, 250 suitcases, is 10 megs or so. Sometimes 3 to four times larger than the fonts. I wouldnt mind it if I hadnt seen catalogs produced by the font foundries themselves which are much much smaller. Ive tried embed, dont embed, fonts. diff compressions. everything. Is there something simple I am missing? bill +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Nov-1997 6:51:02-GMT,2171;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA20564 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 23:51:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA01807; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 00:48:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 8 Nov 1997 00:46:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA01671; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 00:46:32 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEBDE.1B497FC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Rotating pages with Acrobat Distiller 2.1 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 20:08:39 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Friday, 7 November, 1997 19:31, Tom Thiersch [SMTP:thiersch@env-sol.com] wrote: > > The DISTPARM.PDF file installed w/ Acrobat 3 describes (on page 7): > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > AutoRotatePages > > boolean (New in Acrobat 3.0) If true, the Distiller application tries to > orient pages based on the predominant text orientation. Only used if the > file does not contain %%ViewingOrientation, %%PageOrientation, or > %%Orientation DSC comments. If the file does contain such DSC comments, it > honors them. %%ViewingOrientation takes precedence over others, then > %%PageOrientation, then %%Orientation. Sadly, there is a bug in the documentation. I think it takes a name: /None /PageByPage /AllPages the difference between the last two is that /PageByPage orients each page, while /AllPages does them all the same. Aandi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Nov-1997 7:28:50-GMT,2265;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA21502 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 00:28:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA02480; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 01:14:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 8 Nov 1997 01:13:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA02424; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 01:13:27 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEBE4.EBF05BC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture plug-in Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 00:41:09 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Make sure you have a TWAIN driver for the scanner. Not all drivers are TWAIN drivers. Anyway, it shouldn't be a big problem...for best results you will probably want to scan with Photoshop and check the quality of each scan; then save as TIFF and import to Exchange. Aandi On Friday, 7 November, 1997 21:19, Roy Tamashiro [SMTP:royt@owl.websteruniv.edu] wrote: > > Can anyone help me with this problem? I can't seem to access the scanner > via the new capture plug-in on Acrobat Exchange v.3.0.1 on a Power Mac > 8100 and a UMAX Vista S-6 scanner. > > When selecting Scan from the File menu, I get the message "No scanners > available or error querying available scanners." This scanner is on the > list on Adobe's web site, and I have downloaded and installed the latest > drivers for this scanner from UMAX. The scanner works for other > capturing images in Photoshop and for OCR. > > Any tips would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Roy Tamashiro +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Nov-1997 14:03:05-GMT,5698;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28215 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 07:03:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA10855; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 07:58:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 8 Nov 1997 07:55:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA10763; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 07:55:45 -0600 From: jeffmac@connext.net (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] LaTex and Tex and PDF Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 13:52:35 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Message-ID: <3465688f.2578166@mail.connext.net> References: <34637C7F.3B53@infodata.com> In-Reply-To: <34637C7F.3B53@infodata.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA10760 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Can anyone give me the lowdown on the effectiveness of a LaTex or Tex >publishing system. What is it in laymans terms? Would you move to this >standard from Interleaf? How does it work with PDF conversion? Anything >you guys know about this would help so much. I know nothing of it. TeX is a very powerful typesetting system that is available on almost every platform in existance (from PC to Mac to IBM Mainframe to Cray). Some people would have you believe that TeX is limited to the Unix environment. This is very, very, very untrue. I work for a company that uses TeX on the PC. We produce tens of thousands of finished pages each year using TeX. This does not included the hundreds of thousands of pages that don't pass our QC process. (We kill lots of trees.) We do some rather unusual things with TeX. For example we use monospaced fonts and some customized software (a version of DVITTY) to typeset so they will display properly on a 80x25 line screen (the TTY and MSDOS still live). TeX is very effective once you have all the macro's written. If you can live within the straight-jacket of LaTeX, you are home free. If you need more flexabiltiy in your typesetting, then you will have to pay for it (either pay very high bucks for someone to beat LaTeX in to submission or say to hell with LaTeX and use Plain TeX and get it done much easier and faster, in my very biased opinion). Should you move from interleaf to TeX? Probably not. I love TeX. But I have spent most the the past eight years using TeX every day. TeX is an unusual program. If all you want to do is produce simple pages, you can fire up LaTeX and get amazing results with very little effort. I have a very simple memo style that I created. I am amazed that some very non-TeX type people use my set of macros almost every day. My memo style makes is very simple to type of the memos and transmittals that they need to ship out each day. But once you try and go one step beyond simple day-to-day usage, you run into the high learning curve of TeX. TeX gives you the power to control most of the aspects of your page. The cost of this power is learning how to use it. Some things that you think are simple can require a lot of work. Converting TeX to PDF is relatively simple. There are several "off-the-shelf" solutions for the PC. You can buy PC-TeX or Y&Y Tex. They will work with any Window's printer, including the PDF-Writer. Or you can go the Postscript route. This normally involves DVIPS. The output of TeX is a .DVI file (DVI stands for device independant). DVIPS converts a .DVI file into a postscript file. DVIPS is an infuriating program. It does some things very well. But there are some really weird kinks to the program. (For example environment variable have higher presidence than command line arguments.) Personally, I view DVIPS to be the most user hostile program I have run across. It works, but it definitely wants to do things its way (and its way makes no sence to me). The documentation on DVIPS is complete, but organized in such a way that it is damn near impossible to figure out what part of the manual describes the options you want to change. If you get over the problem of DVIPS then you can easilly distill the files using Acrobat Distiller. But there are still some problems. Acrobat Distiller is very picky about working with the output of DVIPS. If you use non-Adobe fonts (say Bitstream fonts) then the resulting PDF can have some weird problems. TeX usually uses Computer Modern fonts. Amazingly these non-Adobe fonts work well with Distiller. But Bitstream fonts caused us a lot of problems. We ended up switching to Adobe fonts which caused the problems all to vanish. One more word about Distiller. We have found that Distiller 3.0 has some serious problems. Since our upgrade to 3.1 has never arrived, we stick with Distiller 2.1. There is another way to go from TeX to PDF: PDFTeX. This program is currently in beta test. It allows you directly produce a PDF file from TeX. There are some serious limitations to this program. First it does not work well with most EPS graphics. For simple TeX and bitmapped graphics, it is a very handy tool. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Nov-1997 19:19:56-GMT,2054;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03771 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:19:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19340; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:17:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:13:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19211; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:13:28 -0600 Message-ID: <3464BA5A.DE2F072A@beacon.com> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 14:15:38 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] LaTex and Tex and PDF X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <34637C7F.3B53@infodata.com> <3465688f.2578166@mail.connext.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jeffrey McArthur wrote: > > [...] you can easilly distill the files > using Acrobat Distiller. [...] Since this thread took off, it is also worth mentioning that TeX supplies a built-in method for directly outputting PostScript code called \special. This can come in very handy if you like to use pdfmarks to automate the link-making process, etc. For example, TeX code like this: \weblink{http://foo.com/bar} could pretty easily be defined to generate boldface blue hypertext when distilled. This sort of low-level customizability is rare in authoring environments, and can be very flexible and powerful. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Nov-1997 19:28:50-GMT,3895;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03953 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:28:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19697; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:26:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:24:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19560; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:24:38 -0600 Message-Id: <9711081855.AB22270@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] FW: PDF question Date: Sat, 8 Nov 97 13:59:05 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: "Mike Zenft" , , "Peter Camps" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>>Hi, >>>I don't suppose you're the right person for this, but maybe you can >>>forward it along. >>>We're having advertisers save files as PDFs and then sent to us for >>>publication. Great concept...AP Adsend (a service from the Associated Press) uses PDF for the the required method for Ads to be sent to Newspapers...they do this to the tune of 97,000 Ads a month. >>>They are told to save them as CMYK. Yes. This is the prefered method. >>>When we print them, the black type is not separating, i.e., it is >>>printing on all separations, which makes it impossible to register. PDF did not do this...the application that generated the PostScript that was distilled did this...consult the person who created the PostScript, and I believe they may have selected some color other than Black only...or the application may be incapable of creating Black only text.... >>>I suppose there is a chance that our Scitex RIP is mishandling the >>>files, but this does not happen with all PDFs. This is probably unlikely...do you have PitStop from Enfocus? You could use this Exchange Plu-in to examine if the text is colored a certain way, and you might be able to change these to black only... >>>All we do is output them. Well, yea, but if they are broken, it sounds like you will need to fix then output them... >>>Can someone tell us what setting needs to be changed to prevent this? Until I know the application that made the PostScript that was distilled, I am a loss to advise you...Scitex VIP (Visionary Interpreter for PostScript) has a "black overprint" setting, but this setting (on or off) should not cause all the type to separate on all plates. >>>I am hopeful it's something simple the folks creating the ads are >>>missing. Most likely...can you email me one of the PDF files that are messing up? I would be happy to take a peek at it... Also, You might want to take a peek at http://www.jahn.org/ and walk through my Distiller Setup explination...this specifically addresses setting up Distiller for high end prepress production environments. Respectfully, Michael Jahn PDF Workflow Evangelist Agfa Division Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P 978.658.5600 Ext. 5504 F 978.658.7968 E michael_jahn@agfa.com Cell Phone 617.605.5716 Reason #173 to fear technology... o o o o o o> o .|. \|. \|/ // X \ | <| <|> /\ >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< Mr. Asciihead learns the Macarena. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Nov-1997 15:10:29-GMT,2331;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23950 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 08:10:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA14635; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 09:05:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 9 Nov 1997 08:59:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14248; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 08:59:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199711091502.QAA11354@mb05.swip.net> From: "Ulf Andersson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 15:39:54 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Christopher, Docuteck is a printer that can handle Postscript. Postscript can be converted to PDF by Acrobat Distiller. Have a nice day Ulf ---------- > From: Christopher Uschan > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: [PDF] Xerox > Date: den 6 november 1997 22:23 > > > Could someone please inform me if there is a way to convert Docutek (xerox proprietory language) to Acrobat PDF. Not sure if this is how the question should be asked, but if there is any information on this I would appreciate any feedback. > > > Thanks, > > > > Christopher Uschan > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Nov-1997 16:44:45-GMT,2046;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25506 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 09:44:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17266; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:40:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:37:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17083; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:37:18 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19971109165500.367fbb6a@mailhub.exis.net> X-Sender: shum@mailhub.exis.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 11:55:00 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: sheryl shum Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 03:23 PM 11/6/97 -0600, you wrote: > Could someone please inform me if there is a way to convert Docutek (xerox proprietory language) to Acrobat PDF. Not sure if this is how the question should be asked, but if there is any information on this I would appreciate any feedback. > >Thanks, > > >Christopher Uschan >---------------------------------------------------- >Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ There is no way to convert "Docublob" to PDF or Postscript Sheryl +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Nov-1997 16:44:48-GMT,2119;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25512 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 09:44:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17268; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:40:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:37:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17061; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:37:15 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19971109165458.367f60ec@mailhub.exis.net> X-Sender: shum@mailhub.exis.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 11:54:58 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: sheryl shum Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 03:23 PM 11/6/97 -0600, you wrote: > Could someone please inform me if there is a way to convert Docutek (xerox proprietory language) to Acrobat PDF. Not sure if this is how the question should be asked, but if there is any information on this I would appreciate any feedback. > >Thanks, > > >Christopher Uschan >---------------------------------------------------- >Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I use XEROX's Docutech and I can assure you there is no way to convert "Docublob" to PDF (or much of anything else for that matter) Sheryl +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 13:48:13-GMT,2581;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17718 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 06:48:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA13614; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:43:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:38:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13416; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:38:10 -0600 From: SiriDeb@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:40:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971110084002_-2042877955@mrin86.mail.aol.com> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In a message dated 97-11-09 10:16:34 EST, ulf.a@dtp-tjanst.se writes: << Christopher, Docuteck is a printer that can handle Postscript. Postscript can be converted to PDF by Acrobat Distiller. >> Ulf is correct on both counts. However, DocuTech, like other devices, converts Postscript into its own machine language, which DocuTech users routinely archive for future reprinting. I think what Christopher is looking for is the ability to grab that format and convert it to PDF. Since the DocuTech format (lovingly dubbed docublob) is a proprietary format you must first convert it to something that PDF tools can accept. Xerox has a conversion software available that will convert docublobs to TIFFs. TIFFs can be converted to EPS or PS with a number of graphic conversion packages or can be batch converted directly to PDF by Adobe's Capture product. (Be aware that if you plan to use Capture it has a dongle which counts each page converted and has a life span of 20,000 pages.) Our company is a heavy user of DocuTechs. We had a need for large scale docublob conversion long before Xerox came out with their conversion software, so we had to develop our own. So unfortunately, I haven't used the Xerox product and thus can't comment on its efficiency. Also, developing your own conversion is definitely possible, but only if you have a good programmer. Good luck; Deb Johannes Commercial Communications, Inc. debj@comcom.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 13:53:32-GMT,2514;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17815 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 06:53:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA14242; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:49:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:46:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13955; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:46:18 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:48:19 GMT From: Ann Apps Message-Id: <199711101348.NAA26369@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Ordering the composite build X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Steve, > > Thanks for info RE: composite PDF building. Have you figured out a way > to tell the script the order to run the files in? > > In my testing, I found the Distiller builds the composite in a random > order: > > a2.ps a4.ps a5.ps a1.ps a3.ps a6.ps > Thankfully, this has happened to me so far in only one of the directories I have distilled to PDF, using RunDirExt.txt. I couldn't at all work out why it had happened! It seemed that in most cases the build was in the same order as the filenames would list in Unix, but in one case the build was in a different order from the filename listing. I overcame the problem by using the option where you specifiy each file to be distilled in order: RunFileEx.ps. This worked OK, but it would be rather tedious to use this option if you have a lot of PDF to produce. I am copying this reply to the list, in the hope that someone else may know the answer. Best wishes, Ann -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Ann Apps. SuperJournal Project, Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6039 Fax: +44 (0) 161 275 6040 Email: Ann.Apps@mcc.ac.uk WWW: http://www.superjournal.ac.uk/sj/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 15:46:42-GMT,1890;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20212 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:46:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA17698; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:41:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:40:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17547; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:40:22 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:42:33 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick West To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox In-Reply-To: <971110084002_-2042877955@mrin86.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 SiriDeb@aol.com wrote: > (Be aware that if you plan to use Capture it has a dongle which > counts each page converted and has a life span of 20,000 pages.) Excuse me? It has a "dongle"? I thought a "dongle" was a device one attaches to the computer to allow a program to run. A basic form of copy protection. Please educate me. I use Acrobat Pro 3.01 running under Warp 4.0 Patrick West ,using Pine 3.96 PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 15:46:47-GMT,1890;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20216 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:46:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA17697; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:41:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:40:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17529; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:40:19 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:42:33 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick West To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox In-Reply-To: <971110084002_-2042877955@mrin86.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 SiriDeb@aol.com wrote: > (Be aware that if you plan to use Capture it has a dongle which > counts each page converted and has a life span of 20,000 pages.) Excuse me? It has a "dongle"? I thought a "dongle" was a device one attaches to the computer to allow a program to run. A basic form of copy protection. Please educate me. I use Acrobat Pro 3.01 running under Warp 4.0 Patrick West ,using Pine 3.96 PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 15:47:33-GMT,1789;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20236 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:47:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA17696; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:41:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:34:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17294; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:33:58 -0600 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9711081855.AB22270@atla3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:35:35 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] FW: PDF question, type not "separating" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>>>When we print them, the black type is not separating, i.e., it is >>>>printing on all separations, which makes it impossible to register. > One thing you might check that could make this happen is if the type is in Registration color rather than black. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 16:25:22-GMT,3566;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21200 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:25:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19502; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:21:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:19:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19384; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:19:21 -0600 Message-ID: <30C7902D2921D111A86D00805F220EF60CD325@xch-rtn-02.ca.boeing.com> From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Ordering the composite build Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:21:31 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ann In UNIX there is a way of building a file using the ls -1 > filename command (that is -1 the numeral NOT -l the letter) writing to a file (the > filename part) and using that file as input to creating RunFileEx.ps. Thank you, Fred W Epps 253-657-8103 Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: Ann Apps[SMTP:zzsupjaa@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk] > Sent: November 10, 1997 5:48 AM > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Ordering the composite build > > > Steve, > > > > > Thanks for info RE: composite PDF building. Have you figured out a > way > > to tell the script the order to run the files in? > > > > In my testing, I found the Distiller builds the composite in a > random > > order: > > > > a2.ps a4.ps a5.ps a1.ps a3.ps a6.ps > > > > Thankfully, this has happened to me so far in only one of the > directories I > have distilled to PDF, using RunDirExt.txt. I couldn't at all work out > why it > had happened! It seemed that in most cases the build was in the same > order as > the filenames would list in Unix, but in one case the build was in a > different > order from the filename listing. > > I overcame the problem by using the option where you specifiy each > file to > be distilled in order: RunFileEx.ps. This worked OK, but it would be > rather > tedious to use this option if you have a lot of PDF to produce. > > I am copying this reply to the list, in the hope that someone else may > know > the answer. > > Best wishes, > Ann > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mrs. Ann Apps. SuperJournal Project, Manchester Computing, > University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. > Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6039 Fax: +44 (0) 161 275 6040 > Email: Ann.Apps@mcc.ac.uk WWW: http://www.superjournal.ac.uk/sj/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: > http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 16:33:31-GMT,2413;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21416 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:33:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20085; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:29:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:27:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19934; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:27:45 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:22:20 -0600 From: djohanne@comcom.com (Deb Johannes) Message-Id: <199711101622.KAA00815@satsun01.comcom.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox (Re: Capture's dongle) X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > From pccare@teleport.com Mon Nov 10 10:01:41 1997 > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:42:33 -0800 (PST) > From: Patrick West > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > cc: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > > On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 SiriDeb@aol.com wrote: > > (Be aware that if you plan to use Capture it has a dongle which > > counts each page converted and has a life span of 20,000 pages.) > Patrick West replied: > Excuse me? It has a "dongle"? I thought a "dongle" was a device one > attaches to the computer to allow a program to run. A basic form of copy > protection. Please educate me. I use Acrobat Pro 3.01 running under Warp > 4.0 Patrick, you are right. It can also be used to limit the number of uses of a product, which is what Capture 2.0 (note this is not the same product that is within the Acrobat 3.x product; that Capture is rev 1.0 or 1.01) does by tracking the number of pages you have processed. Each purchase of Capture 2.0 is good for 20,000 pages. Deb Johannes Commercial Communications, Inc. work: debj@comcom.com or home: SiriDeb@aol.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 16:38:20-GMT,2248;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21532 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:38:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20452; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:33:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:32:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20302; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:32:01 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:34:20 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: mggpatt@popserve.lerc.nasa.gov Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711091459.IAA14265@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Greg Patt Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF Xerox Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I assume what you are asking is that when the Docutech scans hard copy or combines hard copy with electronic copy, you are trying to get the resulting Xerox proprietary code know as "Docublob" into Postscript so you could distill it into PDF. Xerox makes a software known as Xerox Docujob Converter. This program works but it has been our experience that it is rather klunky. It converts Docublob to PS or TIFF. It needs a SPARC station Unix machine to run it. It was meant to convert it to a format that can be run on their XDOD machines but with some playing around could be used for PDF creation. __________________________________________________________________________ Greg Patt Graphics Manager Publishing Services Cortez III Service Corporation NASA Lewis Research Center MS 60-1 216/433-5804 Greg's Science Facts: Rain is saved up in cloudbanks! _________________________________________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 16:44:13-GMT,4158;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21690 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:44:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21014; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:40:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:38:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20825; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:38:35 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971110164052.0091cf48@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:40:52 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Ordering the composite build Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In MS-DOS, the equivalent is to use DIR /B /O:N > filelist.txt which creates a "Bare" directory listing sorted by Name. Check your DOS command ref for more options. Tom Thiersch At 08:21 AM 11/10/97 -0800, you wrote: > >Ann > In UNIX there is a way of building a file using the ls -1 > >filename command (that is -1 the numeral NOT -l the letter) writing to a >file (the > filename part) and using that file as input to creating >RunFileEx.ps. > > Thank you, > > Fred W Epps > 253-657-8103 > Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > > >> ---------- >> From: Ann Apps[SMTP:zzsupjaa@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk] >> Sent: November 10, 1997 5:48 AM >> To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >> Subject: Re: [PDF] Ordering the composite build >> >> >> Steve, >> >> > >> > Thanks for info RE: composite PDF building. Have you figured out a >> way >> > to tell the script the order to run the files in? >> > >> > In my testing, I found the Distiller builds the composite in a >> random >> > order: >> > >> > a2.ps a4.ps a5.ps a1.ps a3.ps a6.ps >> > >> >> Thankfully, this has happened to me so far in only one of the >> directories I >> have distilled to PDF, using RunDirExt.txt. I couldn't at all work out >> why it >> had happened! It seemed that in most cases the build was in the same >> order as >> the filenames would list in Unix, but in one case the build was in a >> different >> order from the filename listing. >> >> I overcame the problem by using the option where you specifiy each >> file to >> be distilled in order: RunFileEx.ps. This worked OK, but it would be >> rather >> tedious to use this option if you have a lot of PDF to produce. >> >> I am copying this reply to the list, in the hope that someone else may >> know >> the answer. >> >> Best wishes, >> Ann >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Mrs. Ann Apps. SuperJournal Project, Manchester Computing, >> University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. >> Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6039 Fax: +44 (0) 161 275 6040 >> Email: Ann.Apps@mcc.ac.uk WWW: http://www.superjournal.ac.uk/sj/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> +--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >> + >> + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: >> http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >> +--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----+ >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 17:05:18-GMT,7820;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22389 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:05:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA22959; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:00:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:57:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22725; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:57:07 -0600 Message-Id: <199711101657.IAA09982@proxy4.ba.best.com> Date: 10 Nov 97 09:00:52 -0800 From: David Solhaug Subject: RE: [PDF] Protecting PDF To: "PDF-L" X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="====53515357555556555751===1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --====53515357555556555751===1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" I am also interested in alternatives to controlling access to PDFs. Luca Manzato writes that the Password security built into Acrobat is not enough. What are the limitations/shortcomings of this form of security? Also, I'd appreciate any suggestions regarding what alternatives exist to providing security for PDFs that are accessed from a server, for example, in a corporate intranet. And lastly, what risks or potential problems exist when users take PDFs (with many cross-document links) originally distributed on CD-ROM, and copy them to their server for access via their intranet? For example, I've heard (but not yet experienced) that links can break in this situation. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Dave. ------------------------------------------------------- D.R. Solhaug 415.728.0767 / Fax 728.2117 Solhaug Grafik email: dsolhaug@sgrafik.com ------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:18:33 -0000 From: Dave Cornwell Subject: RE: [PDF] Protecting PDF - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCE9FD.9778B800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With our PDFcontrol product you could arrange it so that the PDFfile was only open by PCs or MACs with a plug-in you provide. For further details please check our web site "www.docctrl.com" drc - --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com - -----Original Message----- From: Luca Manzato [SMTP:luca.manzato@infopoint.it] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 1:54 PM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Protecting PDF I'm looking for a way to distribute PDF files in order that only authorized people can open and read them. The password protection in not enough! The idea is the possibility to have HW or SW key so that the files could be read only on one PC or Mac. Ideas? Thanks Luca Manzato La Tipografica Varese S.p.a. 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I am also interested in alternatives to controlling access to PDFs.

Luca Manzato writes that the Password security built into Acrobat is not enough. What are the limitations/shortcomings of this form of security?

Also, I'd appreciate any suggestions regarding what alternatives exist to providing security for PDFs that are accessed from a server, for example, in a corporate intranet.

And lastly, what risks or potential problems exist when users take PDFs (with many cross-document links) originally distributed on CD-ROM, and copy them to their server for access via their intranet?
For example, I've heard (but not yet experienced) that links can break in this situation.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Dave.

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D.R. Solhaug 415.728.0767 / Fax 728.2117
Solhaug Grafik email: dsolhaug@sgrafik.com
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:18:33 -0000
From: Dave Cornwell <davec@docctrl.com>
Subject: RE: [PDF] Protecting PDF

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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With our PDFcontrol product you could arrange it so that the PDFfile was only open by PCs or MACs with a plug-in you provide.

For further details please check our web site "www.docctrl.com"

drc
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- -----Original Message-----
From: Luca Manzato [SMTP:luca.manzato@infopoint.it]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 1:54 PM
To: pdf@lists.emrg.com
Subject: [PDF] Protecting PDF



I'm looking for a way to distribute PDF files in order that only
authorized people can open and read them.
The password protection in not enough! The idea is the possibility to
have HW or SW key so that the files could be read only on one PC or
Mac.

Ideas?

Thanks
Luca Manzato
La Tipografica Varese S.p.a.
Via Cherso, 2
21100 VARESE - ITALY
Tel: +39 332 330444
Fax: +39 332 331737
http://www.infopoint.it
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 --====53515357555556555751===1-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 17:41:02-GMT,2099;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23275 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:41:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA25311; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:38:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:36:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA25241; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:36:11 -0600 Message-Id: <199711101734.SAA28958@master.datanet.it> Subject: RE: [PDF] Protecting PDF Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 18:38:25 +0100 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Luca Manzato writes that the Password security built into Acrobat is not >enough. What are the limitations/shortcomings of this form of security? I think Luca means the possibility to use alternative methods not based on password to implement security over PDF files. Remember that Adobe PDF viewers implement a fixed schema of document protection (based on RC4 encryption from RSA Data) with a variable interface that changes the way the RC4 key is computed. So with plug-ins you can implement new encryption methods to custom-protect your PDF files. I will soon "PDF-ANN" our security plug-in that includes the possibility to use hardware keys or simpler software methods to protect your files. Please follow up there. Andrea Valle Datanet Srl Pero, MI - Italy --------------------- http://www.datanet.it --------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 18:21:27-GMT,3039;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24421 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:21:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA27113; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:16:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:15:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA27012; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:15:03 -0600 Message-Id: <199711101816.NAA26074@next.aps.org> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <3464BA5A.DE2F072A@beacon.com> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b6) From: Mark Doyle Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 13:16:26 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] LaTex and Tex and PDF References: <34637C7F.3B53@infodata.com> <3465688f.2578166@mail.connext.net> <3464BA5A.DE2F072A@beacon.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Sat, 08 Nov 1997, "Cory Snavely" wrote: > Since this thread took off, it is also worth mentioning that TeX > supplies a built-in method for directly outputting PostScript code > called \special. This can come in very handy if you like to use > pdfmarks to automate the link-making process, etc. For example, TeX > code like this: > > \weblink{http://foo.com/bar} > > could pretty easily be defined to generate boldface blue hypertext when > distilled. This sort of low-level customizability is rare in authoring > environments, and can be very flexible and powerful. Indeed. TeX macros can be used to very easily add all sorts of automatic pdfmarks to the PostScript before distilling. See http://xxx.lanl.gov/hypertex/ and http://norma.nikhef.nl/~t16/hypertex.html (especially Sebastian Rahtz's hyperref.sty). http://xxx.lanl.gov/ delivers about 60,000 TeX papers as (completely automatically processed) PDF (level of hyperlinking depends on which macro package author originally used - PDF's from xxx don't have fonts embedded to save bandwidth -- you will have to install those separately following the directions in their help). Another person already mentioned PDFTeX which is also quite nice if you don't have to worry about inserting graphics (some graphics are handled though - embedding PNG's for instance). hyperref works very nicely with that as well. In addition, Sebastian has done a lot of work with jadetex, his TeX back end for James Clark's JADE (a DSSSL engine for formatting SGML). Combining all of this together makes for a very potent SGML -> PDF document system. Cheers, Mark +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 19:13:57-GMT,3256;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25729 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:13:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA29390; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:11:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:09:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA29297; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:09:15 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971110110616.009b4b90@mail-345> X-Sender: srosenba@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:06:16 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarah Rosenbaum Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox (Re: Capture's dongle) In-Reply-To: <199711101622.KAA00815@satsun01.comcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 One clarification: The Acrobat Capture plug-in that ships in the Acrobat 3.0x box IS the same engine as Acrobat Capture 2.0. It simply doesn't have a lot of the features (batch processing, different output formats, etc.) that full Capture does. Sarah Rosenbaum Adobe Systems At 10:22 AM 11/10/97 -0600, you wrote: > > >> From pccare@teleport.com Mon Nov 10 10:01:41 1997 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:42:33 -0800 (PST) >> From: Patrick West >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> cc: pdf@lists.emrg.com >> Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> >> >> On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 SiriDeb@aol.com wrote: >> > (Be aware that if you plan to use Capture it has a dongle which >> > counts each page converted and has a life span of 20,000 pages.) >> >Patrick West replied: >> Excuse me? It has a "dongle"? I thought a "dongle" was a device one >> attaches to the computer to allow a program to run. A basic form of copy >> protection. Please educate me. I use Acrobat Pro 3.01 running under Warp >> 4.0 > >Patrick, you are right. It can also be used to limit the number of uses of a product, which is what Capture 2.0 (note this is not the same product that is within the Acrobat 3.x product; that Capture is rev 1.0 or 1.01) does by tracking the number of pages you have processed. Each purchase of Capture 2.0 is good for 20,000 pages. > >Deb Johannes >Commercial Communications, Inc. >work: debj@comcom.com >or >home: SiriDeb@aol.com >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 20:38:48-GMT,2487;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27902 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:38:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA32199; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:34:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:32:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA32140; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:32:20 -0600 Message-Id: <199711102039.PAA13562@netgwy.bp.com> From: "Coulter,Ron,R" To: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF links corrupted by scripts? Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:29:00 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We've come across two incidents in our intranet recently that appear to be related. In both cases bookmark links in a PDF file don't work under certain reproducible circumstances. I am running MSIE 3.02 on Windows 95 and NT 4.0 In the first instance, I search for a PDF on the intranet using Microsoft's IIS search engine (sorry I don't know what version). I open the file with no problem. When I click on one of the bookmark links in the PDF, I get a file not found 404 Error. However, the URL displayed in the address bar is wrong. A underscore ("_") in the URL has been changed to "%5F" If I go to the address bar and manually change the "%5F" to "_" I'm back in business. When I view the source of the HTML results list, it appears some sort of VBScript is at work. In the second situation, a tilde ("~") in a URL is changed to "%7E" When I view the source, I find a JavaScript reference. Sorry I can't be more specific about the scripts and what they are doing, but is anyone aware of a server-side script that changes underscores and tildes? If so, is there a way they can be overridden? Thanks ron ___________________________________________________________ Ron Coulter BP Oil coulterr@bp.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 21:47:16-GMT,1801;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29615 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:47:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA01584; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:44:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:41:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01425; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:41:24 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971110154433.0069b008@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:44:35 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] pdf vs html Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There once was posted a comparison of the differences (or a link to a site that posted the HTML vs PDF). If someone could point me to a site or two, that would be great. PDF die hards - please do not flood this listing with all the conversation relating to this subject, we have been through it once before and I do not want to bog down the list. Thanks, Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 21:54:28-GMT,2226;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29804 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:54:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA01846; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:51:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:49:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01753; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:49:58 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEE22.CA3C9D00.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Ordering the composite build Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:29:15 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Monday, 10 November, 1997 13:48, Ann Apps [SMTP:zzsupjaa@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk] > > Thankfully, this has happened to me so far in only one of the directories I > have distilled to PDF, using RunDirExt.txt. I couldn't at all work out why it > had happened! It seemed that in most cases the build was in the same order as > the filenames would list in Unix, but in one case the build was in a different > order from the filename listing. Very often, scripts and programs that process files will appear to process files in alphabetical order or date order when they are in fact processing in order of directory slot. This is difficult to control. If you create 100 files, delete one, then create one, the one you create will probably get the slot freed - if the file name is the same length. If scripts and programs don't explicitly SORT, then don't rely on any result. Aandi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 23:55:46-GMT,2700;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03689 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:55:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05736; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:47:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:45:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA05624; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:45:12 -0600 Message-Id: <199711102347.QAA23312@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: , Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf vs html Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:45:08 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The book by G. Kent entitled "Internet Publishing with Acrobat" Adobe Press, San Jose 1996 has a chapter with several tables comparing pdf and html. I've made a summary table of this for a seminar presentation and will pass it on in you are intested. A web site with this information would be good to know about. Bev ---------- > From: Christopher Uschan > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: [PDF] pdf vs html > Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 2:44 PM > > > There once was posted a comparison of the differences (or a link to a site that posted the HTML vs PDF). If someone could point me to a site or two, that would be great. > > > PDF die hards - please do not flood this listing with all the conversation relating to this subject, we have been through it once before and I do not want to bog down the list. > > > Thanks, > > > > > Christopher Uschan > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Nov-1997 23:55:58-GMT,2700;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03693 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:55:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05732; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:47:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:45:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA05604; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:45:10 -0600 Message-Id: <199711102347.QAA23312@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: , Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf vs html Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:45:08 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The book by G. Kent entitled "Internet Publishing with Acrobat" Adobe Press, San Jose 1996 has a chapter with several tables comparing pdf and html. I've made a summary table of this for a seminar presentation and will pass it on in you are intested. A web site with this information would be good to know about. Bev ---------- > From: Christopher Uschan > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: [PDF] pdf vs html > Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 2:44 PM > > > There once was posted a comparison of the differences (or a link to a site that posted the HTML vs PDF). If someone could point me to a site or two, that would be great. > > > PDF die hards - please do not flood this listing with all the conversation relating to this subject, we have been through it once before and I do not want to bog down the list. > > > Thanks, > > > > > Christopher Uschan > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 4:25:21-GMT,2428;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09116 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:25:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA14527; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 22:08:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 10 Nov 1997 22:05:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA14216; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 22:05:34 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 22:13:38 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] 11/10/97 Emerge EXTRA TOC Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Emerge EXTRA 11/10/97 is now available on the Web at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra111097.html The current issue of the Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: - The Launch of New "Emerge - The PDFzone" Web Site - JamBuddy, MapPublisher for Acrobat Mapping - PDF-based Guides to Comdex '97 in Las Vegas - Bibliomania Puts PDF Books on Virtual Shelves - Insurance Firms Deliver Policy Forms via PDF - Reviewers Needed for PDF Textbook Proposal ...and more. Past issues also available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Subscribe to the email version at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ rgds~Kurt _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ --> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <-- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ ========================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 8:16:34-GMT,1620;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13644 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 01:16:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA23696; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 01:57:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 01:52:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA23519; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 01:52:47 -0600 Message-Id: <199711110751.IAA31309@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox (Re: Capture's dongle) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 97 08:55:08 +0100 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >One clarification: >The Acrobat Capture plug-in that ships in the Acrobat 3.0x box IS the same >engine as Acrobat Capture 2.0. It simply doesn't have a lot of the features >(batch processing, different output formats, etc.) that full Capture does. > >Sarah Rosenbaum >Adobe Systems And what about conversion speed and scanner support? Still the same power? Andrea Valle +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 15:58:48-GMT,3078;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22081 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:58:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA00963; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:55:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:47:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00172; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:47:24 -0600 From: vhhuston@switch.com Date: Tue, 11 Nov 97 7:49:45 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat/Exchange 3.x - Inserting multiple PDF files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is, of course, assuming that you can get the 3.01 upgrade from Adobe. I just got off the phone with them once again and was told 2-3 weeks. I was told the same thing a month age. Anyone else having problems getting the upgrade? Virgil ------------- Original Text From: "D. Paknad" , on 11/7/97 8:38 AM: This and other plug-ins are also available on your Acrobat 3.01 CD ... in the Goodies folder. (It's a bit faster than the download!) You can also drag and drop the files from Windows Explorer. Someone else said it was buggy, but our company uses it frequently to quickly insert or collate files. Regards, Deidre Paknad ........................................................................... .... GLYPHICA Acrobat & Web Publishing Services http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF, the Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purepdf.com ........................................................................... ...... Johan.leide wrote: > There is a SUPER tool called Compose from Ambia that does just this > and > many more things..The best plugin around actually! > > Download a demo from http://www.ambia.com > > Johan > > PS I don't sell it I use it DS > > >On Thursday, 6 November, 1997 23:50, Stephen M. Aylor > >[SMTP:iincorp@home.com] wrote: > >> I am currently using ExchangeAcrobat 2.1. My question is re: > 3.x. Is > >> it possible to insert multiple pdf files into a "main pdf" file > from > >> the windows dialog box - on a PC in one operation. > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ - +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 15:58:53-GMT,1659;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22085 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:58:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA00966; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:55:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:49:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00400; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:49:14 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 07:44:43 PST From: "Love,Tom" Subject: Re: [PDF] Xerox To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <8C7C68348177687C8C7C68348177687C#064#X-CO-2506-MS1.XN@SMF> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:52:52 -0500 Hop-count: 3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Forgive me if this is too commercial, but it is on point with respect to the query which originated this thread. Xerox Business Services offers a range of document capture and conversion services, including conversion of DocuJobs to TIFF and other formats, including PDF. For more information contact 1-888-SCAN-XRX. Tom Love XBS/Document Imaging Services tom_love@xn.xerox.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 16:46:21-GMT,2341;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23107 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 09:46:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03501; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:43:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:39:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02911; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:39:20 -0600 Message-ID: <34688A53.3D57@document-solutions.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:39:47 -0800 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Capture Querstions References: <199711110751.IAA31309@master.datanet.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Andrea Valle wrote: > > >One clarification: > >The Acrobat Capture plug-in that ships in the Acrobat 3.0x box IS the same > >engine as Acrobat Capture 2.0. It simply doesn't have a lot of the features > >(batch processing, different output formats, etc.) that full Capture does. > And what about conversion speed and scanner support? Still the same power? While the Captur engine is the same, Capture 2.0 "supports" batch scanning as Exchange does not. Well, it's not really batch scanning, but it *is* batch TIFF processing. Capture 2.0 is a "light-industrial" strength solution for anyone who processes more than a few pages to PDF -- or, someone who needs all the advanced clean-up and page-editing features of Acrobat Capture Reviewer 2.0. -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Nov-1997 2:25:44-GMT,7717;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15692 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:25:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA27929; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 20:23:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 20:21:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA27849; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 20:21:53 -0600 Message-Id: <199711080223.SAA13718@proxy4.ba.best.com> Date: 07 Nov 97 18:26:30 -0800 From: David Solhaug Subject: RE: [PDF] Protecting PDF To: "PDF-L@emrg.com" X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="====48495448575351504951===1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --====48495448575351504951===1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" I am also interested in alternatives to controlling access to PDFs. Luca Manzato writes that the Password security built into Acrobat is not enough. What are the limitations/shortcomings of this form of security? Also, I'd appreciate any suggestions regarding what alternatives exist to providing security for PDFs that are accessed from a server, for example, in a corporate intranet. And lastly, what risks or potential problems exist when users take PDFs (with many cross-document links) originally distributed on CD-ROM, and copy them to their server for access via their intranet? For example, I've heard (but not yet experienced) that links can break in this situation. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Dave. ------------------------------------------------------- D.R. Solhaug 415.728.0767 / Fax 728.2117 Solhaug Grafik email: dsolhaug@sgrafik.com ------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:18:33 -0000 From: Dave Cornwell Subject: RE: [PDF] Protecting PDF - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCE9FD.9778B800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With our PDFcontrol product you could arrange it so that the PDFfile was only open by PCs or MACs with a plug-in you provide. For further details please check our web site "www.docctrl.com" drc - --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com - -----Original Message----- From: Luca Manzato [SMTP:luca.manzato@infopoint.it] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 1:54 PM To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Protecting PDF I'm looking for a way to distribute PDF files in order that only authorized people can open and read them. The password protection in not enough! The idea is the possibility to have HW or SW key so that the files could be read only on one PC or Mac. Ideas? Thanks Luca Manzato La Tipografica Varese S.p.a. Via Cherso, 2 21100 VARESE - ITALY Tel: +39 332 330444 Fax: +39 332 331737 http://www.infopoint.it +------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------- + --====48495448575351504951===1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I am also interested in alternatives to controlling access to PDFs.

Luca Manzato writes that the Password security built into Acrobat is not enough. What are the limitations/shortcomings of this form of security?

Also, I'd appreciate any suggestions regarding what alternatives exist to providing security for PDFs that are accessed from a server, for example, in a corporate intranet.

And lastly, what risks or potential problems exist when users take PDFs (with many cross-document links) originally distributed on CD-ROM, and copy them to their server for access via their intranet?
For example, I've heard (but not yet experienced) that links can break in this situation.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Dave.

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D.R. Solhaug 415.728.0767 / Fax 728.2117
Solhaug Grafik email: dsolhaug@sgrafik.com
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:18:33 -0000
From: Dave Cornwell <davec@docctrl.com>
Subject: RE: [PDF] Protecting PDF

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

With our PDFcontrol product you could arrange it so that the PDFfile was only open by PCs or MACs with a plug-in you provide.

For further details please check our web site "www.docctrl.com"

drc
- ---
David Cornwell, Sales Director
Computerised Document Control Ltd
PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752
fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817

Document Systems Specialists
www.docctrl.com

- -----Original Message-----
From: Luca Manzato [SMTP:luca.manzato@infopoint.it]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 1:54 PM
To: pdf@lists.emrg.com
Subject: [PDF] Protecting PDF



I'm looking for a way to distribute PDF files in order that only
authorized people can open and read them.
The password protection in not enough! The idea is the possibility to
have HW or SW key so that the files could be read only on one PC or
Mac.

Ideas?

Thanks
Luca Manzato
La Tipografica Varese S.p.a.
Via Cherso, 2
21100 VARESE - ITALY
Tel: +39 332 330444
Fax: +39 332 331737
http://www.infopoint.it
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists +
+ Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html +
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 --====48495448575351504951===1-- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 17:02:15-GMT,2497;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23495 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:02:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA05086; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:58:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:55:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04759; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:55:21 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8C7C68348177687C8C7C68348177687C#064#X-CO-2506-MS1.XN@SMF> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:54:49 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: STOP: [PDF] Xerox Cc: tom_love@xn.xerox.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom et al, YES, this was most definitely beyond the non-commercial limits described in list policies. Please do NOT post such product promotions to any of the lists here *except* for PDF-Announce, which was created for this specific purpose. You're free to post directly to a subscriber by private email if you think you have a solution to offer, but do NOT use this list as a billboard to post sales pitches. It only leads to others wanting to do the same, which is not allowed. Further violations, as described in the list policy, can lead to being suspended from the list. ~Kurt === >Forgive me if this is too commercial, but it is on point with respect to >the query which originated this thread. > ... _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ --> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <-- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ ========================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 17:09:48-GMT,1481;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23684 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:09:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA05434; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:01:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:58:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05127; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:58:48 -0600 From: vhhuston@switch.com Date: Tue, 11 Nov 97 11:45:37 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] Capture Plug In Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just installed Acrobat 3.0 on a Win 95 PC. When I try to run the capture plug-in I get the following error message: "MSVCRT40.Dll for Win32s. This version of MSVCRT40.Dll only intended for Win32s." Can anyone tell me what this means? TIA. Virgil Huston +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 17:21:48-GMT,3151;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23949 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:21:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07258; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:19:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:16:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06923; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:16:19 -0600 Message-ID: <346866FB.5022@tamu.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:08:59 -0600 From: Bill Watson Organization: agcom X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf vs html References: <199711102347.QAA23312@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Bev Mitchell wrote: > > The book by G. Kent entitled "Internet Publishing with Acrobat" Adobe > Press, San Jose 1996 has a chapter with several tables comparing pdf and > html. I've made a summary table of this for a seminar presentation and will > pass it on in you are intested. A web site with this information would be > good to know about. > Bev > > ---------- > > From: Christopher Uschan > > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > > Subject: [PDF] pdf vs html > > Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 2:44 PM > > > > > > There once was posted a comparison of the differences (or a link to a > site that posted the HTML vs PDF). If someone could point me to a site or > two, that would be great. > > > > > > PDF die hards - please do not flood this listing with all the > conversation relating to this subject, we have been through it once before > and I do not want to bog down the list. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Christopher Uschan > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS > > > > > > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html > + > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I would like to have the summary comparison you wrote. Thanks, Bill Watson +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 17:23:39-GMT,1603;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24001 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:23:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07451; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:21:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:18:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07194; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:18:20 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971111111845.00697700@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:18:46 -0600 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] Docublob (Xerox) & PDF v. HTML Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Folks, The information provide to either the list or myself was excellent. I do not need any more input/postings on these issues. Thanks, Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 17:36:10-GMT,2416;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24289 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:36:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA08694; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:33:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:30:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08456; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:30:57 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEEC7.5F621FA0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture Plug In Problem Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:29:14 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I think some other program has damaged the shared file MSVCRT40.DLL. Or rather, installed the wrong version. Up til now you haven't had any other programs that needed it. Fixing it may be troublesome. But try: 1. Locate every copy of MSVCRT40.DLL on your hard disk. 2. Rename all of them as MSVCRT40.OLD. 3. Reinstall Acrobat. If you have another program that now does NOT work, it will be to blame. Aandi On Tuesday, 11 November, 1997 16:46, vhhuston@switch.com [SMTP:vhhuston@switch.com] wrote: > > I just installed Acrobat 3.0 on a Win 95 PC. When I try to run the capture > plug-in I get the following error message: "MSVCRT40.Dll for Win32s. This > version of MSVCRT40.Dll only intended for Win32s." Can anyone tell me what > this means? TIA. > Virgil Huston > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 17:49:40-GMT,2223;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24592 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:49:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09153; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:47:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:44:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09074; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:44:48 -0600 Message-Id: <199711111141.MAA00606@drno.prac.cs.utwente.nl> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Arnoud Jippes" Organization: University of Twente To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:47:26 +0000 Subject: [PDF] PS driver for NT In-reply-to: <199711110751.IAA31309@master.datanet.it> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >From the Adobe website: "Now anyone with an Adobe(R) PostScript(R) printer can use a genuine Adobe PostScript driver" Can someone tell me why Adobe doesn't release a PS driver for NT? It's not incompetence, is it? If not, then what commercial reason can Adobe possibly have to keep the PS driver from the NT community? Sure NT users now have a PDF writer, but we all know it's less suitable for big documents and it's not freely available. Researchers and Ph.D. students send us (the university library) their documents in PostScript. Now the university platform standard is going to be NT, we are in for a lot of trouble with inferior PostScript files. We can't expect them all to purchase PDF-writer... HELP! Regards, Arnoud Jippes. -------------------- Arnoud Jippes UT-WebDOC University of Twente Library webdoc@ub.utwente.nl http://www.ub.utwente.nl/webdoc/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 18:42:20-GMT,3352;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25870 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:42:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10479; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:40:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:37:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10337; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:37:50 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEED0.C47D8560.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PS driver for NT Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 18:36:26 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, 11 November, 1997 12:47, Arnoud Jippes [SMTP:webdoc@ub.utwente.nl] wrote: > > From the Adobe website: "Now anyone with an Adobe(R) PostScript(R) > printer can use a genuine Adobe PostScript driver" > > Can someone tell me why Adobe doesn't release a PS driver for NT? > It's not incompetence, is it? If not, then what commercial reason > can Adobe possibly have to keep the PS driver from the NT community? There can be other reasons than incompetence for not doing something, when you're a big commercial organisation. How much, exactly, are you going to pay Adobe for this driver? You want it to be free? I thought so. In fact, work is in hand. From the Adobe web site: "San Jose, California (April 22, 1997) (Nasdaq:ADBE)--Adobe Systems Incorporated and Microsoft Corporation today announced a relationship to jointly develop, release and support a single Adobe(R) PostScript(R) printer driver for the Microsoft Windows(R) NT(R) operating system." The word is, that this will be ready in time for NT 5, with luck. NT is a completely different beast from Windows 95, so drivers tend to have to be done again. In fact, I imagine NT 5 will be a completely different animal from NT 4, just as NT 4 was from NT 3.51. That's why NT drivers are thin on the ground. > > Sure NT users now have a PDF writer, but we all know it's less > suitable for big documents and it's not freely available. > > Researchers and Ph.D. students send us (the university library) their > documents in PostScript. Now the university platform standard is > going to be NT, we are in for a lot of trouble with inferior > PostScript files. We can't expect them all to purchase PDF-writer... > HELP! I'm more concerned that Adobe will drop support for level 1 PostScript in this driver, as they have done with their latest Windows 95 driver. Though the press release above continues "Designed for use with all PostScript printers, including Adobe(R) PostScript(R) 3(TM) printing systems" which is a little encouraging. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 18:56:10-GMT,2176;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26159 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:56:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11027; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:53:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:50:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10831; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:50:27 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:50:18 -0800 From: "Rob L. Shepherd" Subject: Re: [PDF] PS driver for NT In-reply-to: <199711111141.MAA00606@drno.prac.cs.utwente.nl> X-Sender: robs@spie.org To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <3.0.3.32.19971111105018.009ab720@spie.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <199711110751.IAA31309@master.datanet.it> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 12:47 PM 11/11/1997 +0000, you wrote: > >From the Adobe website: "Now anyone with an Adobe(R) PostScript(R) >printer can use a genuine Adobe PostScript driver" > >Can someone tell me why Adobe doesn't release a PS driver for NT? Arnoud, I'm glad you have brought this up. I'd like to explore the postscript issue under NT4.0 as well. I have noticed that I can't always create reliable postscript with the different ps drivers I have tried. I think I remember reading a press release that talked about Microsoft and Adobe creating a driver for NT due out early in the new year. I'd have to dig to find it though..... Does anybody on the list have general suggestions for creating reliable postscript under NT4.0?? Thanks, Rob +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 19:01:44-GMT,2764;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26302 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:01:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11377; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:00:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:57:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11236; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:57:29 -0600 From: vhhuston@switch.com Date: Tue, 11 Nov 97 13:58:49 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture Plug In Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks Aandi, That solution worked. Virgil ------------- Original Text From: Aandi Inston , on 11/11/97 5:29 PM: I think some other program has damaged the shared file MSVCRT40.DLL. Or rather, installed the wrong version. Up til now you haven't had any other programs that needed it. Fixing it may be troublesome. But try: 1. Locate every copy of MSVCRT40.DLL on your hard disk. 2. Rename all of them as MSVCRT40.OLD. 3. Reinstall Acrobat. If you have another program that now does NOT work, it will be to blame. Aandi On Tuesday, 11 November, 1997 16:46, vhhuston@switch.com [SMTP:vhhuston@switch.com] wrote: > > I just installed Acrobat 3.0 on a Win 95 PC. When I try to run the capture > plug-in I get the following error message: "MSVCRT40.Dll for Win32s. This > version of MSVCRT40.Dll only intended for Win32s." Can anyone tell me what > this means? TIA. > Virgil Huston > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ M +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Nov-1997 19:12:27-GMT,2295;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26535 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:12:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11708; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:07:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:06:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11622; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:06:10 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Nov 97 11:05 PST From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <01BCEED0.C47D8560.quite@dial.pipex.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PS driver for NT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > There can be other reasons than incompetence for not doing something, > when you're a big commercial organisation. How much, exactly, are you > going to pay Adobe for this driver? You want it to be free? I thought so. You aren't going to pay Adobe for the driver. Its cost will be hidden in the cost of the PostScript printer you buy, just as the PS drivers are now. > Researchers and Ph.D. students send us (the university library) their > documents in PostScript. Now the university platform standard is > going to be NT, we are in for a lot of trouble with inferior > PostScript files. We can't expect them all to purchase PDF-writer... > HELP! If this is the issue, look for a free PS-to-PDF distiller. There are several already in existence. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html *Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your mailbox and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 0:04:05-GMT,1826;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03117 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:04:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA22063; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:58:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:55:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA21958; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:55:45 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 18:01:26 -0600 To: From: wolz@sells.com Subject: [PDF] PDF to TIFF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I know this have been discussed before, and lots of opinions, and comments. However, I al really looking to find out if somebody has a way to convert PDF files into TIFF files rather easily. My thanks in advance.... ==================================================================== David Wolz, Digital Publishing Products Manager Phone:(414)784-9500 Sells Printing Company, LLC 800:(800)728-9501 16000 West Rogers Drive Fax:(414)784-8551 New Berlin, WI 53151 E-mail: wolz@sells.com ==================================================================== +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 0:49:45-GMT,2143;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03954 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:49:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA23776; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 18:46:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 18:43:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA23645; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 18:43:50 -0600 Date: 11 Nov 97 17:39:09 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF to TIFF To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.1r2 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1332852557-235169321@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 wolz wrote: > >I know this have been discussed before, and lots of opinions, and >comments. However, I al really looking to find out if somebody has a way >to convert PDF files into TIFF files rather easily. My thanks in >advance.... I'll assume that a product recommendation from a USER is OK with the list boss, since we users discuss plug-ins and other commercial products regularly. With this understanding, I would recommend to wolz a product called Image Alchemy PS. It will take just about anything and convert it to just about anything. It also works in batch mode and is available for Macintosh, OS/2, Windows, and UNIX. The company is Handmade Software at www.handmadesw.com Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 5:40:20-GMT,2036;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09491 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:40:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA31758; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:38:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:36:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA31596; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:36:56 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:14:47 PST From: "Roe,Richard" Subject: [PDFdev] Capture 1.x on Windows NT To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, pdfdev@lists.emrg.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 00:39:03 -0500 Hop-count: 3 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Question. Has anyone ever got Capture 1.01 running on Windows NT workstation? We have a major client that is scanning 50-60k pages perday using 6 Xerox 620 scanners. We are currently passing the multi page tiff's to a WIndows 95 station running on a very "powerful" and high-ram system. The unfortunate thing is that the customer is not set up with the pay structure that would allow us to use Capture 2.0. We purchased ATM 4.0 but it still does not see the ATM running. I believe that there are several "ini" files that we could set up to run Capture successfully. Does anyone have this running? Your help would be greatly appreciated. RDRoe Xerox Corporation richard_roe@xn.xerox.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDFdev is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 5:52:05-GMT,2036;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09709 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:52:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA31794; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:39:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:37:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA31604; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:36:57 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:14:47 PST From: "Roe,Richard" Subject: [PDF] Capture 1.x on Windows NT To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, pdfdev@lists.emrg.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 00:39:03 -0500 Hop-count: 3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Question. Has anyone ever got Capture 1.01 running on Windows NT workstation? We have a major client that is scanning 50-60k pages perday using 6 Xerox 620 scanners. We are currently passing the multi page tiff's to a WIndows 95 station running on a very "powerful" and high-ram system. The unfortunate thing is that the customer is not set up with the pay structure that would allow us to use Capture 2.0. We purchased ATM 4.0 but it still does not see the ATM running. I believe that there are several "ini" files that we could set up to run Capture successfully. Does anyone have this running? Your help would be greatly appreciated. RDRoe Xerox Corporation richard_roe@xn.xerox.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 6:36:08-GMT,3052;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10552 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:36:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA32753; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 00:31:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 00:30:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA32653; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 00:30:05 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971112002816.0074de40@emrg.com> X-Sender: ggernert@emrg.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 00:28:32 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Glenn Gernert Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF to TIFF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 05:39 PM 11/11/97 -0700, you wrote: > >wolz wrote: >> >>I know this have been discussed before, and lots of opinions, and >>comments. However, I al really looking to find out if somebody has a >way >>to convert PDF files into TIFF files rather easily. My thanks in >>advance.... Dennis Walkers suggestion of Image Alchemy PS is an excellent one. There are also several system level print drivers that can be found on the web that will allow you to simply print a file to disk as TIF in much the same fashion as PDF-Writer. One I recently tried out was: TiffWorks Tiff Driver TiffWorks is a new progam that allows you to create Tiff (and other formats) files from virtually any Windows program. Simply select TiffWorks from the Printer Selection and TiffWorks creates a multipage Tiff file.............. More info and a demo downloadable can be found at: http://www.informatik.com/document.html You can find other similar print drivers on the web without searching too far. glg +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Glenn Gernert Service Bureau Manager | | EMERGE | |----------------------------------------------------------| | 579 D'Onofrio Drive | Phone: 800-829-2459 X-103 | | Suite 101 | Fax: 608-829-3561 | | Madison, WI | E-mail: ggernert@pdfzone.com | | 53719 | http://www.emerge.pdfzone.com/ | +----------------------------------------------------------+ Adobe Acrobat Electronic Publishing Solutions Acrobat Capture Service Bureau +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 12:47:19-GMT,2021;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA17251 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 05:47:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA07149; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 06:44:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 06:41:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA07041; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 06:41:38 -0600 From: "Scott Albright" To: Subject: [PDF] Fw: POSTS Printing multiple or batch PDF files with Acrobat Reader Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:43:33 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1332801897-114042596@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ---------- > From: GAM@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu > To: AlbrigS@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil > Subject: POSTS Printing multiple or batch PDF files with Acrobat Reader > Date: Tuesday, November 11, 1997 05:49 PM > > Hi, > > I am a new subscriber to your mailing list and was perusing through your > archives and noticed the problem with printing multiple or batch PDF files > appears quite often. However, I couldn't find any solution for doing this > task in Win95 using Acrobat Reader 2.0 or 3.1. Has this been discussed > and what is the solution? Thanks in advance for your assistance. > > Greg Mouning > gam@yalevm.cis.yale.edu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 13:05:31-GMT,1573;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17617 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 06:05:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA07585; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:02:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:00:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA07517; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:00:38 -0600 From: SiriDeb@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:00:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971112080008_258968097@mrin43.mail.aol.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: STOP: [PDF] Xerox Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I think Tom can be forgiven if he crossed the line. He only identified a contact for the product, didn't give a sales pitch for it. It seemed to be in keeping with the thread. If I too crossed the line, I apologize, but please be aware that while CCI has developed software to convert TIF to PDF, it never has been, nor is now, for sale. Deb Johannes Commercial Communications, Inc. work: debj@comcom.com home: SiriDeb@aol.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 14:04:02-GMT,1992;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18711 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:04:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA09259; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:00:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:57:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA09155; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:57:54 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEF72.CAB4FBA0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Fw: POSTS Printing multiple or batch PDF files with Acrobat Reader Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:49:28 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 One solution is to buy Acrobat Exchange and automate it via OLE. This is not too difficult if you are familiar with OLE. Aandi On Wednesday, 12 November, 1997 12:44, Scott Albright [SMTP:AlbrigS@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil] wrote: > > I am a new subscriber to your mailing list and was perusing through your > > archives and noticed the problem with printing multiple or batch PDF > files > > appears quite often. However, I couldn't find any solution for doing this > > task in Win95 using Acrobat Reader 2.0 or 3.1. Has this been discussed > > and what is the solution? Thanks in advance for your assistance. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 15:55:49-GMT,1875;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21246 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:55:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA12696; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:45:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:43:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12583; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:43:05 -0600 From: kurt.levitan@tfn.com X-Server-Uuid: b0832e76-507b-11d1-9cee-00e0290993bc MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:26:09 -0500 Message-ID: <0004CBB3.003038@tfn.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to TIFF To: X-WSS-ID: 187711C61048-187711C61049-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You might want to look at Print-2-Image. It is a print driver that can print to many different tif formats. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] PDF to TIFF Author: wolz@sells.com at internet Date: 11/11/97 6:01 PM I know this have been discussed before, and lots of opinions, and comments. However, I al really looking to find out if somebody has a way to convert PDF files into TIFF files rather easily. My thanks in advance.... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 17:45:33-GMT,2233;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24171 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:45:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16268; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:39:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:31:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15988; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:31:49 -0600 Message-ID: <3469E833.67E2@document-solutions.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:32:35 -0800 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Capture 1.x on Windows NT References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Roe,Richard wrote: > > Question. Has anyone ever got Capture 1.01 running on Windows NT > workstation? We've tried it, but ran into lotsa headaches, not all of which were definitively associated with NT.... With the jacked-up Win95 system you have, throughput on Capture 1.01 should be pretty good (4-5 pages / minute, depending on a zillion factors, of course). You'll need several machines to keep up with your scanners, though. Last point: if there is any cleanup happening with these pages, Capture 2.0's improved OCR and page recognition will REDUCE overall project cost, not increase it. -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 19:07:12-GMT,1939;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26406 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:07:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA18969; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:02:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:58:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA18777; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:58:28 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971112105300.0098a920@mail-345> X-Sender: srosenba@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:53:00 -0800 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Sarah Rosenbaum Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've received a lot of feedback lately from people who haven't received their Acrobat 3.01 update. We (Adobe) generate a mailing list once a month for new Acrobat 3.0 registrants and do a bulk mailing. The most common reason for a user not receiving the update is they are not registered in our database. To get registered and request an update be sent to you (it will go out immediately), please call 1-800-232-3623. We really do want Acrobat 3.0 owners to have the update! Regards, Sarah Rosenbaum Acrobat Product Manager Adobe Systems ---------------------------- Sarah Rosenbaum Adobe Systems, Incorporated ---------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 19:50:47-GMT,4085;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27561 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:50:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20771; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:45:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:43:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20618; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:43:46 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971112194429.0091fa04@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:44:29 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 update Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sarah, I believe that you are sincere in your belief that Adobe wants to get the update to those who are entitled to it. HOWEVER, as I pointed out in a recent post to this list, there appears to be a gaping hole in Adobe's registration system. The problem is that, when you register an Upgrade version of a product, Adobe's system (at least sometimes) continues to track you under the OLD version number, not the new one. [If you don't believe me, this info is straight from your Customer Service group -- give 'em a call.] For example, in my case, I updated from Acrobat Pro 2.1 to Acrobat 3.0 last January. I purchased the 3.0 Upgrade from one of Adobe's Premium VARs, Emerge. When I installed the Upgrade software, I of course was required to enter the serial number from the 2.1 product, and this same 2.1 serial number is what was printed on the Registration form that I immediately faxed to Adobe. Last month, I finally got so fed up with waiting that I called Adobe to demand that I receive the long-overdue 3.01 update. Because I was persistent with Adobe Customer Service, I discovered this problem with your registration database. I had to force the Customer Service person to actually look up my registration information. As soon as he did, he rather quickly discovered that I was still registered as a "2.1" user. He also discovered another record that said I was registered as a "2.0" user, even though I had registered the upgrade from that version long ago. Since your registration database thought I was still a 2.x user, I was never placed on the bulk mailing list to which you referred in your message. Now, perhaps this sort of thing isn't a problem if one purchases the Upgrades directly from Adobe -- I don't know, but YOU certainly should be able to research this and find out. Bottom line: Before you put your trust in automated systems to scan your database, you need to first fix the process that causes invalid/obsolete customer registration data to be present in the database, and then fix that database! Regards, Tom Thiersch At 10:53 AM 11/12/97 -0800, you wrote: > >I've received a lot of feedback lately from people who haven't received >their Acrobat 3.01 update. We (Adobe) generate a mailing list once a month >for new Acrobat 3.0 registrants and do a bulk mailing. The most common >reason for a user not receiving the update is they are not registered in >our database. > >To get registered and request an update be sent to you (it will go out >immediately), please call 1-800-232-3623. > >We really do want Acrobat 3.0 owners to have the update! > >Regards, >Sarah Rosenbaum >Acrobat Product Manager >Adobe Systems >---------------------------- >Sarah Rosenbaum >Adobe Systems, Incorporated >---------------------------- > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 19:51:01-GMT,2647;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27568 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:51:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20795; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:46:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:44:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20672; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:44:51 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 update Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:44:36 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just called this 800 number and got another company. Sarah: What is the correct number? Listusers: Please do not call 1-800-232-3623 it is NOT Adobe! > ---------- > From: Sarah Rosenbaum[SMTP:srosenba@Adobe.COM] > Sent: November 12, 1997 10:53 AM > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 update > > > I've received a lot of feedback lately from people who haven't > received > their Acrobat 3.01 update. We (Adobe) generate a mailing list once a > month > for new Acrobat 3.0 registrants and do a bulk mailing. The most common > reason for a user not receiving the update is they are not registered > in > our database. > > To get registered and request an update be sent to you (it will go out > immediately), please call 1-800-232-3623. > > We really do want Acrobat 3.0 owners to have the update! > > Regards, > Sarah Rosenbaum > Acrobat Product Manager > Adobe Systems > ---------------------------- > Sarah Rosenbaum > Adobe Systems, Incorporated > ---------------------------- > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 20:40:08-GMT,2448;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28865 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:40:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA22598; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:37:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:35:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22446; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:35:38 -0600 Message-Id: <199711122035.NAA12833@sportsurf.net> Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 update Date: Wed, 12 Nov 97 16:45:30 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >I just called this 800 number and got another company. > >Sarah: What is the correct number? > Hi, This is one of Adobe's numbers: 800-833-6687 BTW, my saga and wait for 3.01 ended this week. Yea! But, when I called the above # on a number of occasions -- all with reports of out-of-stock 3.01 Mac -- I didn't have any luck. However, I was transfered to another department/branch and was put to different people who did have the needed product in stock. Sorry, I don't know were things took me -- and I've passed various info to the good folks at Adobe who have helped so that they are more aware. Point to this story. If you get told by customer service that Mac Acrobat 3.01 is out of stock -- get an order # and then ask to be put through to someone who can help you -- as it is available -- with some other outfit within Adobe. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 20:43:34-GMT,3052;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28985 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:43:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA22769; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:40:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:39:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22671; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:39:27 -0600 Message-ID: From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 update Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:38:50 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I registered when I originally bought Acrobat Pro 2.1 last year (June 1996), and I received my 3.0 upgrade on 2/4/97. I also called again on 10/28/97 and re-registered. I have yet to receive my 3.01 update. Am I going to need to make yet another call to get this done? Gary E. Decker Information Services Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation 1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411 Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 Fax: (316) 364-4154 Pager: (316) 364-7234 E-mail: gadecke@wcnoc.com >---------- >From: Sarah Rosenbaum[SMTP:srosenba@adobe.com] >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 1997 12:53 PM >To: pdf@lists.emrg.com >Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 update > > >I've received a lot of feedback lately from people who haven't received >their Acrobat 3.01 update. We (Adobe) generate a mailing list once a month >for new Acrobat 3.0 registrants and do a bulk mailing. The most common >reason for a user not receiving the update is they are not registered in >our database. > >To get registered and request an update be sent to you (it will go out >immediately), please call 1-800-232-3623. > >We really do want Acrobat 3.0 owners to have the update! > >Regards, >Sarah Rosenbaum >Acrobat Product Manager >Adobe Systems >---------------------------- >Sarah Rosenbaum >Adobe Systems, Incorporated >---------------------------- >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 20:49:19-GMT,1516;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29181 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:49:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA23114; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:47:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:45:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22987; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:45:54 -0600 From: BruceF3680@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:45:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971112154524_798357777@mrin45.mail.aol.com> To: Frederick.Epps@pss.boeing.com, owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 update Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In a message dated 11/12/97 8:42:14 PM, Frederick.Epps@PSS.Boeing.com wrote: <> The correct number is 1-800-272-3623. Sarah miskeyed a digit and it is driving the other folks at the other number crazy. Bruce Freeman Communications Director Leadership Network +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 21:49:14-GMT,2282;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00721 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:49:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA25213; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:46:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:44:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25108; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:44:17 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971112133850.009b1100@mail-345> X-Sender: srosenba@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:38:50 -0800 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Sarah Rosenbaum Subject: [PDF] CORRECTED phone number! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mea Culpa! I mistyped the phone number and I greatly apologize. The number is: 1-800-272-3623. My apologies, Sarah ---------------------------------------------- I've received a lot of feedback lately from people who haven't received their Acrobat 3.01 update. We (Adobe) generate a mailing list once a month for new Acrobat 3.0 registrants and do a bulk mailing. The most common reason for a user not receiving the update is they are not registered in our database. To get registered and request an update be sent to you (it will go out immediately), please call 1-800-232-3623. We really do want Acrobat 3.0 owners to have the update! ----------------------------------------------------------- Sarah Rosenbaum Adobe Systems Incorporated Acrobat Product Marketing Mailstop W12-410 srosenba@adobe.com 345 Park Avenue (v) 408-536-3844 San Jose, CA 95110-2704 (f) 408-537-4005 www.adobe.com/acrobat ----------------------------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 22:36:54-GMT,3803;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02093 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:36:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA26566; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:25:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:24:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26431; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:24:19 -0600 Message-Id: <199711122225.RAA13158@statcan.ca> From: "Maria Parij" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] CORRECTED phone number! Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:23:23 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sarah - I receive the message that this number is outside the calling area - so I'm presuming this is for the US only and does not include Canada. I called the number for Customer Support contained in the Adobe 3.0 upgrade in September. I am still waiting for the upgrade to arrive. Any idea when the upgrade might be sent out - we are registered - when I gave the serial number of my copy it came up on your system. We currently have 4 standalone licenses and 1 10-pack WorkGroups license - and I was told I'd be able to upgrade all copies with the one copy I would receive after my phone call. =============================================== Maria Parij Voice: 613.951.1152 Head, Electronic Solutions Consulting FAX: 613.951.6084 Statistics Canada e-mail: parimar@statcan.ca Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0T6 WWW:http://www.statcan.ca ---------- > From: Sarah Rosenbaum > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: [PDF] CORRECTED phone number! > Date: Wednesday, November 12, 1997 4:38 PM > > > Mea Culpa! I mistyped the phone number and I greatly apologize. The number is: > > 1-800-272-3623. > > My apologies, > Sarah > ---------------------------------------------- > I've received a lot of feedback lately from people who haven't received > their Acrobat 3.01 update. We (Adobe) generate a mailing list once a month > for new Acrobat 3.0 registrants and do a bulk mailing. The most common > reason for a user not receiving the update is they are not registered in > our database. > > To get registered and request an update be sent to you (it will go out > immediately), please call 1-800-232-3623. > > We really do want Acrobat 3.0 owners to have the update! > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Sarah Rosenbaum Adobe Systems Incorporated > Acrobat Product Marketing Mailstop W12-410 > srosenba@adobe.com 345 Park Avenue > (v) 408-536-3844 San Jose, CA 95110-2704 > (f) 408-537-4005 www.adobe.com/acrobat > ----------------------------------------------------------- > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 23:18:43-GMT,2091;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03171 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:18:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA28330; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:15:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:13:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28202; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:13:26 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:13:23 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: andrew.kubrin@tanner.com Subject: [PDF] Font errors Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDFers: Several of our PDFs are giving random errors of this type: "Unable to find or create the font 'ANKDCF+Helvetica-Bold+2'. Some characters may not display or print correctly." This basic message has appeared at odd times with different character strings and different fonts--Times Roman, ArialMT, and Wingdings--to name a few. Does anyone know how to decipher these messages and how we can correct this problem? We are using Frame 5.1.1 and Acrobat 3.0 on a Mac PowerPC to create these PDFs, which we then read on Win 95 PCs. When we distill, we embed all fonts. The printer driver is LaserWriter 8.4.3. Thanks in advance. Andy Kubrin Tanner Research, Inc. E-mail andy.kubrin@tanner.com 2650 E. Foothill Blvd. Phone (626) 792-3000 Pasadena, CA 91107 Fax (626) 432-5705 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Nov-1997 23:42:12-GMT,2214;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03768 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:42:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA29121; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:40:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:38:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29042; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:38:54 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCEF81.3F9FFB00@kubrinpc.tanner.com> From: Andrew Kubrin To: "'PDF-L@emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] Font errors Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:40:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA29039 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDFers: Several of our PDFs are giving random errors of this type: "Unable to find or create the font 'ANKDCF+Helvetica-Bold+2'. Some characters may not display or print correctly." This basic message has appeared at odd times with different character strings and different fonts--Times Roman, ArialMT, and Wingdings--to name a few. Does anyone know how to decipher these messages and how we can correct this problem? We are using Frame 5.1.1 and Acrobat 3.0 on a Mac PowerPC to create these PDFs, which we then read on Win 95 PCs. When we distill, we embed all fonts. The printer driver is LaserWriter 8.4.3. Thanks in advance. Andy Kubrin Tanner Research, Inc. E-mail Andrew.Kubrin@tanner.com 2650 E. Foothill Blvd. Phone (626) 792-3000 Pasadena, CA 91107 Fax (626) 432-5705 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 0:58:04-GMT,2617;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05599 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:58:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA31332; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:56:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:54:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA31233; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:54:08 -0600 Date: 12 Nov 97 17:54:36 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: [PDF] Mac to PC again To: PDF Mail List X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.1r2 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1332765277-240427036@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I continue to have problems with PC users modifying and printing my Mac produced PDFs. I'm beginning to suspect that certain assumptions that I've made are false concerning Acrobat on Wintel. I appreciate bouncing these assumptions off you: 1. Adobe Type Manager gets installed on Wintel PCs when Exchange or Reader is installed. 2. Having ATM installed will allow embedded Type 1 fonts to print correctly on non-postscript laser and inkjet printers. 3. If a Type 1 font needs to be unembedded so that changes can be made to the PDF, the unembedding process will make the font available to the system, without further action. 4. Wintel users can increase RAM allocation for Exchange to eliminate parsing errors on more complex files. In one specific instance, a Wintel user is printing to a HP Laser. The character shapes appear OK, but some larger text (over 100 pts) doesn't print at all (it does appear on screen fine). Also, the whole page appears muted with what looks like horizontal "noise" lines over the text and images. The user swears the printer has a new toner cartridge and that word processor documents print fine. TIA for any input Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 3:33:05-GMT,2207;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08694 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:33:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA02688; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:30:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:27:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02592; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:27:27 -0600 Message-ID: <346A56BD.7591@axionet.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:24:13 -0500 From: Bruce Byfield X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Digest Subject: Re: [PDF] PS driver for NT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rob L. Shepherd" wrote: >I think I remember reading a press release that talked about >Microsoft and Adobe creating a driver for NT due out early in >the new year. I'd have to dig to find it though..... Would that be a Postscript 3 driver? It occurs to me that Adobe may be dragging its heels on a postscript driver for NT until its new standard is out. -- Bruce Byfield, Outlaw Communications (bbyfield@axionet.com) (604) 421-7189 or 688-6211 L. 290 http://www.axionet.com/outlawcommunications (Updated 9 November, 1997) Job Bank Team, STC Canada West Coast Chapter http://www.stc.org/region7/cwc/www/job_bank.html "So be ready night and day, Stand up for your right of way: There's a bully in the alley--he'll do his worst, There's a bully in the alley--he won't fear your curse, There's a bully in the alley--get your boot in first, That's what they tell us." --Oyster Band, "Bully in the Alley" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 6:40:04-GMT,3366;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12201 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:40:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA06548; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:36:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:34:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA06429; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:34:00 -0600 Message-Id: <9711130435.AA04489@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Font errors Date: Wed, 12 Nov 97 23:39:20 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , "'PDF-L@emrg.com'" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >"Unable to find or create the font 'ANKDCF+Helvetica-Bold+2'. Some >characters may not display or print correctly." > >This basic message has appeared at odd times with different character >strings and different fonts--Times Roman, ArialMT, and Wingdings--to name >a few. > >Does anyone know how to decipher these messages and how we can correct >this problem? > >We are using Frame 5.1.1 and Acrobat 3.0 on a Mac PowerPC to create these >PDFs, which we then read on Win 95 PCs. When we distill, we embed all >fonts. The printer driver is LaserWriter 8.4.3. Someone is using TrueType Fonts, and TrueType fonts always subset, even if you have Subset turned off. Also, are you certain that you always include all fonts when creating the PostScript to be Distilled? This is so that they are downloaded to the RIP at print time...imagine if you have Helvetica Bold from some other font company open on the system you are printing the PDF file from, and it subsituted....the widths most likely would yeild a unexpected result... The rummor has it that even Microsofts Print production team has removed all trueType fonts and uses only Adobe type 1 fonts for reasons such as this...remember, the Helvetica that is burnt into the roms on that laserwriter is Adobes Helvetica, so how else can they guarantee that you will get the result that the creator intended but to rename a font. I mean, if I edit Helvetica Bold, and simply embed it, and you get that file, Exchange will use the version you have opened on you machine, cached into RAM... Respectfully, Michael Jahn PDF Workflow Evangelist Agfa Division Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P 978.658.5600 Ext. 5504 F 978.658.7968 E michael_jahn@agfa.com Cell Phone 617.605.5716 Reason #173 to fear technology... o o o o o o> o .|. \|. \|/ // X \ | <| <|> /\ >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< Mr. Asciihead learns the Macarena. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 6:43:22-GMT,3366;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12294 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:43:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA06547; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:36:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:34:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA06451; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:34:02 -0600 Message-Id: <9711130435.AA04489@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Font errors Date: Wed, 12 Nov 97 23:39:20 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , "'PDF-L@emrg.com'" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >"Unable to find or create the font 'ANKDCF+Helvetica-Bold+2'. Some >characters may not display or print correctly." > >This basic message has appeared at odd times with different character >strings and different fonts--Times Roman, ArialMT, and Wingdings--to name >a few. > >Does anyone know how to decipher these messages and how we can correct >this problem? > >We are using Frame 5.1.1 and Acrobat 3.0 on a Mac PowerPC to create these >PDFs, which we then read on Win 95 PCs. When we distill, we embed all >fonts. The printer driver is LaserWriter 8.4.3. Someone is using TrueType Fonts, and TrueType fonts always subset, even if you have Subset turned off. Also, are you certain that you always include all fonts when creating the PostScript to be Distilled? This is so that they are downloaded to the RIP at print time...imagine if you have Helvetica Bold from some other font company open on the system you are printing the PDF file from, and it subsituted....the widths most likely would yeild a unexpected result... The rummor has it that even Microsofts Print production team has removed all trueType fonts and uses only Adobe type 1 fonts for reasons such as this...remember, the Helvetica that is burnt into the roms on that laserwriter is Adobes Helvetica, so how else can they guarantee that you will get the result that the creator intended but to rename a font. I mean, if I edit Helvetica Bold, and simply embed it, and you get that file, Exchange will use the version you have opened on you machine, cached into RAM... Respectfully, Michael Jahn PDF Workflow Evangelist Agfa Division Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P 978.658.5600 Ext. 5504 F 978.658.7968 E michael_jahn@agfa.com Cell Phone 617.605.5716 Reason #173 to fear technology... o o o o o o> o .|. \|. \|/ // X \ | <| <|> /\ >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< Mr. Asciihead learns the Macarena. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 9:09:14-GMT,2531;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15119 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 02:09:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA08030; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:05:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:03:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA07959; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:03:25 -0600 Message-Id: <199711130903.KAA08493@mb05.swip.net> From: "Ulf Andersson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to TIFF Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:27:31 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There are windows printerdrivers that can produce tiff Interested ? Ulf Ulf.a@dtp-tjanst.se ---------- > From: wolz@sells.com > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF to TIFF > Date: den 12 november 1997 01:01 > > > I know this have been discussed before, and lots of opinions, and > comments. However, I al really looking to find out if somebody has a way > to convert PDF files into TIFF files rather easily. My thanks in > advance.... > > ==================================================================== > David Wolz, Digital Publishing Products Manager Phone:(414)784-9500 > Sells Printing Company, LLC 800:(800)728-9501 > 16000 West Rogers Drive Fax:(414)784-8551 > New Berlin, WI 53151 E-mail: wolz@sells.com > ==================================================================== > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 9:35:10-GMT,3748;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15775 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 02:35:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA08383; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:33:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:32:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA08302; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:32:11 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF016.D7869740.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Mac to PC again Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:40:55 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, 13 November, 1997 00:55, Dennis Walker [SMTP:dennisw@inpractice.net] wrote: > > I continue to have problems with PC users modifying and printing my Mac > produced PDFs. I'm beginning to suspect that certain assumptions that I've > made are false concerning Acrobat on Wintel. I appreciate bouncing these > assumptions off you: > > 1. Adobe Type Manager gets installed on Wintel PCs when Exchange or > Reader is installed. This is not the case. The last release of Reader to include a copy of ATM was 2.0. Acrobat does, however, include as much of ATM as it needs to view or print documents. > 2. Having ATM installed will allow embedded Type 1 fonts to print > correctly on non-postscript laser and inkjet printers. That is true. Acrobat should not need ATM though. However, there are a few cases where it may be more efficient e.g. ATM can create downloadable PCL fonts. > 3. If a Type 1 font needs to be unembedded so that changes can be made to > the PDF, the unembedding process will make the font available to the > system, without further action. I wouldn't think so, if ATM is not installed. > 4. Wintel users can increase RAM allocation for Exchange to eliminate > parsing errors on more complex files. Windows doesn't have (and never has) shared the primitive system of memory partitioning used by the Macintosh. A windows program is limited only by the amount of virtual memory (unlike the Mac, this is efficicient and almost always switched on). > > In one specific instance, a Wintel user is printing to a HP Laser. The > character shapes appear OK, but some larger text (over 100 pts) doesn't > print at all (it does appear on screen fine). Also, the whole page appears > muted with what looks like horizontal "noise" lines over the text and images. > The user swears the printer has a new toner cartridge and that word > processor documents print fine. These sorts of problems have much to do with printer drivers (and sometimes video drivers) - a particular achilles heel for Windows (I wonder how many legs that makes). HP drivers are among the most problematical, which never ceases to surprise. For instance, many have a setting "Raster" or "HPGL". No one setting works for all applications: "Raster" is best for Acrobat. The user should be asked to check this setting, play with other settings, and get hold of the latest available driver for their printer. Aandi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 10:17:52-GMT,5269;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16526 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:17:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA08881; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:15:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:13:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA08815; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:13:36 -0600 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:15:29 +0000 (GMT) From: "Edward M. Bradburn" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Mac to PC again (MS Word info...) In-Reply-To: <01BCF016.D7869740.quite@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 With reference to Aandi's point about printer drivers, people might like to know that we had problems printing with Word tables embedded into PageMaker on our Mac setup (Word 6.01, PM 6.5, HP LJ4M Plus). The kerning of text in such tables was often very bad, with letters spaced far apart from each other, or else run into each other. However, when I tried the same trick using a new pc the department has acquired (PM 6.5, Word 7, HP LJ4M Plus), the kerning was perfect on embedded tables in PageMaker, and hence it must have been the printer driver for the Mac that was causing the problem (unless one suggests that Word 7 has improved on 6.0 in terms of the kerning for fonts in OLE, which seems rather less likely?). Just my thoughts... Regards Ed Bradburn On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Aandi Inston wrote: > > > > On Thursday, 13 November, 1997 00:55, Dennis Walker [SMTP:dennisw@inpractice.net] wrote: > > > > I continue to have problems with PC users modifying and printing my Mac > > produced PDFs. I'm beginning to suspect that certain assumptions that I've > > made are false concerning Acrobat on Wintel. I appreciate bouncing these > > assumptions off you: > > > > 1. Adobe Type Manager gets installed on Wintel PCs when Exchange or > > Reader is installed. > > This is not the case. The last release of Reader to include a copy of ATM was > 2.0. Acrobat does, however, include as much of ATM as it needs to view or print > documents. > > > 2. Having ATM installed will allow embedded Type 1 fonts to print > > correctly on non-postscript laser and inkjet printers. > > That is true. Acrobat should not need ATM though. However, there are a few cases > where it may be more efficient e.g. ATM can create downloadable PCL fonts. > > > 3. If a Type 1 font needs to be unembedded so that changes can be made to > > the PDF, the unembedding process will make the font available to the > > system, without further action. > > I wouldn't think so, if ATM is not installed. > > > 4. Wintel users can increase RAM allocation for Exchange to eliminate > > parsing errors on more complex files. > > Windows doesn't have (and never has) shared the primitive system of memory > partitioning used by the Macintosh. A windows program is limited only by the > amount of virtual memory (unlike the Mac, this is efficicient and almost always > switched on). > > > > In one specific instance, a Wintel user is printing to a HP Laser. The > > character shapes appear OK, but some larger text (over 100 pts) doesn't > > print at all (it does appear on screen fine). Also, the whole page appears > > muted with what looks like horizontal "noise" lines over the text and images. > > The user swears the printer has a new toner cartridge and that word > > processor documents print fine. > > These sorts of problems have much to do with printer drivers (and sometimes > video drivers) - a particular achilles heel for Windows (I wonder how many legs > that makes). HP drivers are among the most problematical, which never > ceases to surprise. For instance, many have a setting "Raster" or "HPGL". > No one setting works for all applications: "Raster" is best for Acrobat. > > The user should be asked to check this setting, play with other settings, and > get hold of the latest available driver for their printer. > > Aandi > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ **************************************** Edward M. Bradburn DTP & Production Centre for Continuing Education University of Bath BATH BA2 7AY Tel: (+44) 01225 323864 **************************************** +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 11:57:15-GMT,1924;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18270 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:57:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA09974; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 05:54:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 05:52:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA09920; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 05:52:49 -0600 Message-Id: <199711131152.MAA16368@mail.hamburg.roses.de> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 update Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 13:02:43 +0100 x-sender: ham01053@mail.hamburg.roses.de x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Elmar K=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=fcnzel?= To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Perhaps some costumers live outside the USA. We register Acrobat 3.0 3 months ago via Web and ask four weeks later by the german registration base to receive the 3.01 update. No regstration was there. Are the american registrations folks don't communicate with the german registration people from Adobe? IMO a little strange for such a big computer company. Perhaps someone from Adobe can someting about the situation Regards Elmar Kuenzel BTW: At least a short message before someone start the registration from outside america can avoid wrong (?) expectation. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 13:32:56-GMT,1707;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20006 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:32:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA11113; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:29:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:27:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11063; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:26:59 -0600 Message-ID: <346AFF7E.6A6E776C@adobe.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 05:24:14 -0800 From: Phil Ydens Organization: Adobe Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Font errors X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 andrew.kubrin@tanner.com wrote: > PDFers: > > Several of our PDFs are giving random errors of this type: > > "Unable to find or create the font 'ANKDCF+Helvetica-Bold+2'. Some > characters may not display or print correctly." > Andy, If you get me your pdf file, I will take a look at it. Send it to pydens@adobe.com. Phil Ydens +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 14:54:19-GMT,1560;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21735 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:54:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA12903; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:15:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:14:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA12810; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:14:15 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:20:05 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: paul hilvert Subject: [PDF] pdf and trapping Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I am a prepress manager, very interested in expanding the utilization of PDF in our workflow, and am looking for a program that can trap PDF files. I'd be very interested in getting any information from any 4C-8C printer who is implementing PDF into workflow. Paul Hilvert Berman Printing 1441 Western Ave. Cincinnati OH 45214 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 15:02:53-GMT,2399;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21921 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:02:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA13962; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:49:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:48:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA13893; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:47:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199711131447.HAA37252@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: "PDFlist PDFlist" Subject: [PDF] WAV, AVI and PDF Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:49:44 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 As far as I can tell, Acrobat uses two methods to incorporate sound into PDF files - if you set a WAV file as a 'page action' then the WAV is incorporated into the PDF and the sound plays when the page come up. This is great since you are still left with a single PDF file to distribute. However, if you link a WAV file to a portion of a page so the reader has control over when the sound is played, the WAV file is not incorporated into the PDF creating awkwardness for distribution. As for AVI files, these can be set as page actions or linked to buttons just like WAV files, but they never get incorporated into the PDF. It would obviously be very useful to have all files associated with your PDF become part of the PDF. Does anyone know what may be in the works in this regard? Or maybe what I want is already there and I just haven't found it yet. Bev Mitchell Department of Biological Sciences University of Alberta Edmonton, AB Canada T6G 2E9 403-432-9583 bev.mitchell@ualberta.ca http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/mitchell.hp/bkmhome.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 16:46:53-GMT,2568;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24388 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:46:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17762; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:42:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:40:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17555; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:40:29 -0600 >Received: from pc1-evdl (pc1-evdl.oce.nl) by smtp02.oce.nl (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11947; Thu, 13 Nov 97 17:17:55 +0100 Message-Id: <346A7EBE.6313@oce.nl> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 05:14:54 +0100 From: "Erwin A.R. van der Linden" Organization: Oce-Technologies B.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDFdev] Retrieving document info fields of PDF files in query result page of Microsoft's Index Server Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm using MS Index Server to index PDF files (using Adobe's PDF IFilter). The PDF files are being indexed properly. However, I want to customize the Query Result Page to include the Document Info Fields of the PDF document. The Info Field holding the title can be retrieved via the DocTitle property. For some reason, however, the author, subject and keyword Info Fields can't be retrieved via the DocAuthor, DocSubject and DocKeywords properties. I'm quite sure that these info fields are being indexed, because their values are used in "characterization" property. Does anyone know if and how the document info fields of PDF files can be retrieved in the query result page of MS Index Server?? Thanks in advance, Erwin -- _____________________________________________________________ Erwin A.R. van der Linden Oce-Technologies B.V. Phone: ++31 77 3594841 P.O. Box 101 Fax: ++31 77 3595337 5900 MA Venlo Email: evdl@oce.nl Netherlands WWW: http://www.oce.com/ _____________________________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDFdev is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 16:54:51-GMT,2421;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24597 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:54:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA16874; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:18:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:17:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA16792; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:17:38 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF04F.786FB280.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] WAV, AVI and PDF Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:30:20 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, 13 November, 1997 14:50, Bev Mitchell [SMTP:bev.mitchell@ualberta.ca] wrote: > > As far as I can tell, Acrobat uses two methods to incorporate sound into > PDF files - if you set a WAV file as a 'page action' then the WAV is > incorporated into the PDF and the sound plays when the page come up. This > is great since you are still left with a single PDF file to distribute. > However, if you link a WAV file to a portion of a page so the reader has > control over when the sound is played, the WAV file is not incorporated > into the PDF creating awkwardness for distribution. As for AVI files, these > can be set as page actions or linked to buttons just like WAV files, but > they never get incorporated into the PDF. The "open file" action is greatly overused. It should never be used to play a movie, play a sound, or link to another PDF file, since there are better ways to do these - listed there in the action types. Another good reason not to use it is that "open file" (except presumably for a PDF file) now (Acrobat 3.01) issues a security warning to the user. Aandi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 16:55:10-GMT,2550;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24611 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:55:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17695; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:41:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:40:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17554; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:40:29 -0600 >Received: from pc1-evdl (pc1-evdl.oce.nl) by smtp02.oce.nl (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11947; Thu, 13 Nov 97 17:17:55 +0100 Message-Id: <346A7EBE.6313@oce.nl> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 05:14:54 +0100 From: "Erwin A.R. van der Linden" Organization: Oce-Technologies B.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Retrieving document info fields of PDF files in query result page of Microsoft's Index Server Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm using MS Index Server to index PDF files (using Adobe's PDF IFilter). The PDF files are being indexed properly. However, I want to customize the Query Result Page to include the Document Info Fields of the PDF document. The Info Field holding the title can be retrieved via the DocTitle property. For some reason, however, the author, subject and keyword Info Fields can't be retrieved via the DocAuthor, DocSubject and DocKeywords properties. I'm quite sure that these info fields are being indexed, because their values are used in "characterization" property. Does anyone know if and how the document info fields of PDF files can be retrieved in the query result page of MS Index Server?? Thanks in advance, Erwin -- _____________________________________________________________ Erwin A.R. van der Linden Oce-Technologies B.V. Phone: ++31 77 3594841 P.O. Box 101 Fax: ++31 77 3595337 5900 MA Venlo Email: evdl@oce.nl Netherlands WWW: http://www.oce.com/ _____________________________________________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 16:56:06-GMT,1613;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24633 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:56:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA16758; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:17:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:12:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA16603; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:12:56 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:18:40 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: viator@infodata.com (Viator, Lora) Subject: [PDF] Type 3 fonts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have done a lot of research on whether it is better to use Type 1 or Type 3 or TrueType but it seems that so much of the information is outdated or biased (Adobe). Can some font experts give me the lowdown on whether Type 3 fonts pose a problem anymore for producing uneditable or unsearchable PDF files? Also, how can the user tell on his system, that he is even using a Type 3? Thanks ahead of time Lora +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 16:59:32-GMT,1842;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24713 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:59:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA18565; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:55:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:53:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18440; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:53:27 -0600 Message-ID: <346ADC2A.5DF9DAB4@execpc.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:55:37 +0000 From: Chuck Miller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf mailing list Subject: [PDF] Using PDF in CDs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi- I'm new here and newly enthusiastic about creating PDF files, having found them to be the best way to proof QuarkXPress docs to my Epson 800 color inkjet. (Better, imo, than Birmy's [Postscript] PowerRIP 4.1.) Now I have a client who would like my help in converting large Quark or PageMaker docs to interactive CDs using PDF. There's some time for me to study and learn. Can anyone point me toward sources of info? On PDF interactivity On producing CDs If possible, a work flow using PDF in CDs Chuck Miller Wordwise Appleton WI USA +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 17:17:23-GMT,3137;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25126 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:17:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA19303; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:13:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:11:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA19180; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:11:50 -0600 From: vhhuston@switch.com Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 12:04:38 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: re: [PDF] Using PDF in CDs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I do this all the time and the answer to your questions could be quite lengthy. I will make a couple of points. You want to include the install files for all acrobat reader versions that may be needed on the CD-ROM. For me, that means the Win 3.1 and 95 versions. When you convert Quark & Pagemaker files to PDF use Distiller, not PDF Writer. I'm not sure what you mean by interactivity. If you mean bookmarks & links, it should be no problem, both within documents and from one document to another. When I distribute a CD-ROM I have brief instructions on the jewel box cover and sometimes in a letter. I have detailed Acrobat reader installation instructions in a readme.txt file on the CD. I also often include a PDF "starter" file to get new users going, then refer them to Reader Help for more info. Actually getting all these things onto a CD-ROM is easy. Your recorder probably comes with software for this. Hope this helps. Virgil ------------- Original Text From: Chuck Miller , on 11/13/97 10:55 AM: Hi- I'm new here and newly enthusiastic about creating PDF files, having found them to be the best way to proof QuarkXPress docs to my Epson 800 color inkjet. (Better, imo, than Birmy's [Postscript] PowerRIP 4.1.) Now I have a client who would like my help in converting large Quark or PageMaker docs to interactive CDs using PDF. There's some time for me to study and learn. Can anyone point me toward sources of info? On PDF interactivity On producing CDs If possible, a work flow using PDF in CDs Chuck Miller Wordwise Appleton WI USA +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ i +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 18:05:55-GMT,3054;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26408 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:05:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA20453; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:40:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:33:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA20088; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:33:43 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF05A.1B6ECB60.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Type 3 fonts Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:12:49 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The popular wisdom is that type 3 fonts should be avoided in all contexts because 1. They are usually larger in a PDF file; 2. They usually display more slowly; 3. Although a type 3 font can be any type of font, they are usually bitmap fonts. These will be good only at one resolution - usually a particular printer - and on screen or higher or lower quality printers will look unpleasant. Users by and large won't by using type 3 fonts. They are now rare; ATM has never handled them. They were more common before 1990, because the type 1 format was secret before that. But type 3 fonts may be GENERATED in several contexts 1. In conversion from TrueType to PostScript, for small type sizes. Most PostScript drivers give a cryptic option to reduce this. 2. When using some types of TeX fonts the conversion is done this way; there are ways to force TeX to use PostScript fonts. Aandi On Thursday, 13 November, 1997 16:19, Viator, Lora [SMTP:viator@infodata.com] wrote: > > I have done a lot of research on whether it is better to use Type 1 or > Type 3 or TrueType but it seems that so much of the information is > outdated or biased (Adobe). Can some font experts give me the lowdown on > whether Type 3 fonts pose a problem anymore for producing uneditable or > unsearchable PDF files? Also, how can the user tell on his system, that > he is even using a Type 3? > > Thanks ahead of time > > Lora > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 18:21:15-GMT,1972;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26787 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:21:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA21903; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:10:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:09:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA21756; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:09:11 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825654E.00632CC2.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:09:05 -0700 Subject: RE: [PDF] WAV, AVI and PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, 13 November, 1997 14:50, You responded to Bev Mitchell: "The "open file" action is greatly overused. It should never be used to play a movie, play a sound, or link to another PDF file, since there are better ways to do these - listed there in the action types. Another good reason not to use it is that "open file" (except presumably for a PDF file) now (Acrobat 3.01) issues a security warning to the user." We've had some problems with links between PDF files, so your response made us wonder if using this action might explain our difficulties. Would you describe some of the problems associated with using "open file" to link with another PDF - other than the security warning that is now issued with 3.01? Thanks, Sue +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 18:59:53-GMT,2220;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27835 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:59:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA23696; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:44:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:42:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA23505; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:42:27 -0600 Message-ID: <346AF5B6.27AB9DF5@execpc.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:44:52 +0000 From: Chuck Miller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Using PDF in CDs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks, Virgil, for being my first response on this list. vhhuston@switch.com wrote: > > ...the answer to your questions could be quite lengthy. I was hoping there might be a good book on the subject (though I didn't find one at Amazon), or a web tome on the subject. Using Distiller appears to be pretty straightforward. The producing CDs end of it seems more of an unknown to me, plus any ways that PDF on CD should be handled differently. [When I start something new, I tend to assume there are not-initially-obvious details that impact on the success of the project, so I go looking for those at the beginning.] Another helpful person has pointed me to a pdf prepress list. I'm joining and may find that useful. Will also check the manual that comes with (my client's) recorder for info and sources for more. Thanks for your other points. Chuck Miller Wordwise Appleton WI USA +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 19:01:21-GMT,2031;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27874 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:01:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA23693; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:44:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:42:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA23440; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:42:02 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Mac to PC again Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:41:48 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just looked at my AA 3.01 CD and it has a folder Atm302. Isn't this ATM? And it looks like what is on my AA 2.0 floppy. Am I missing something? Thank you, Fred W Epps 253-657-8103 > ---------- > From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 1997 12:40 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Mac to PC again > . . . snip . . . > > 1. Adobe Type Manager gets installed on Wintel PCs when Exchange or > > Reader is installed. > > This is not the case. The last release of Reader to include a copy of > ATM was > 2.0. Acrobat does, however, include as much of ATM as it needs to view > or print > documents. > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 19:03:50-GMT,3198;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27951 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:03:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA24578; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:00:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:58:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA24437; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:58:32 -0600 From: vhhuston@switch.com Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 13:52:58 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Using PDF in CDs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Chuck, I am certainly no expert. There are others on this group who know far more. But, I learned all this on my own. I've never had a problem with PDF's on CD other than they are a little slower, which is to be expected. As for writing files to CD, it is really very easy. You select the files you want, start the process and wait. You can learn the software in a matter of minutes. When I do it I start the process, go do other work and go back to the recorder every once and a while to swap out CD's. I don't know of any books. I use the Adobe help files, which are quite extensive, and this group is always helpful when I can't figure something out. Virgil ------------- Original Text From: Chuck Miller , on 11/13/97 12:44 PM: Thanks, Virgil, for being my first response on this list. vhhuston@switch.com wrote: > > ...the answer to your questions could be quite lengthy. I was hoping there might be a good book on the subject (though I didn't find one at Amazon), or a web tome on the subject. Using Distiller appears to be pretty straightforward. The producing CDs end of it seems more of an unknown to me, plus any ways that PDF on CD should be handled differently. [When I start something new, I tend to assume there are not-initially-obvious details that impact on the success of the project, so I go looking for those at the beginning.] Another helpful person has pointed me to a pdf prepress list. I'm joining and may find that useful. Will also check the manual that comes with (my client's) recorder for info and sources for more. Thanks for your other points. Chuck Miller Wordwise Appleton WI USA +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+  +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 19:51:34-GMT,1763;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29314 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:51:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA25262; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:09:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:07:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA25104; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:07:34 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF067.37E84D40.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Mac to PC again Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:05:10 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, 13 November, 1997 18:42, Epps, Fred W [SMTP:Frederick.Epps@PSS.Boeing.com] wrote: > > I just looked at my AA 3.01 CD and it has a folder Atm302. > Isn't this ATM? And it looks like what is on my AA 2.0 floppy. > Am I missing something? It may be. But Acrobat READER does not ship with ATM. I can't remember if installing the full product offers the option of installing ATM - perhaps it does (it used to). Aandi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 22:26:15-GMT,7005;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03167 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:26:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA01707; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:16:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:14:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA01507; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:14:13 -0600 Message-Id: <9711131906.AA27422@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and trapping Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 14:09:59 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I am a prepress manager, very interested in expanding the utilization of >PDF in our workflow, and am looking for a program that can trap PDF files. Ohhhh..Now this one should be an interesting start to a lengthy debate! Do you think you will need PDF files that have been trapped, and do you envision looking at the resulting new objects (the actual trap object) in Exchange, or would you be willing to trust an in-rip trapping solution that (like a line screen setting) you would come to "trust" when you set it? >I'd be very interested in getting any information from any 4C-8C printer >who is implementing PDF into workflow. Paul, 1. Today, most Vendors who "claim" to trap PDF files do so by first printing the file or saving the file out as PostScript or as an EPS file, rasterizing that file to a bitmap, and trap a bitmap, then either send that to be screened and plotted, or be reviewed as a bitmap on screen, possibly as an Tiff/It-P1 file. 2. Some vendors have implimented way to trace the edges of the portions of a page that were (in the original PDF file) objects and vectors, and then convert the tracing to a PostScript file or an an eps file, and then use Adobe Acrobat Distiller to convert this PostScript or eps file into a PDF. Sounds pretty ugly, but it works...kinda/sorta. 3. Unfortunately, although the resulting file is indeed trapped, and the traps could be "visually checked" by zooming in, there is no practical way to acurately "measure" something that is a three thousanths of an inch in Exchange (such as in a .003 trap). Using Enfocus PitStop Plug-in, you can inspect the object by selecting it, but this only yields where that little trap object lands in on that page in relative coordinate space. You know,it gives you LL corner position in X & Y, X & Y Width & Height and the UR corner X & Y. 4. Worse, the fact is that if you rasterize a character and trap it, and them vectorise this result, you no longer have an object to "find /change"...you now only have a series of shapes that look like charaters, but are simply shapes. 5. Worse yet, even if you employed a strategy that "overlayed" a trap over the original PDF file, the real world issue is that if you have the word "Fern" and it is trapped, and you correct this to Fred, you now have a "n" shapped trap over a letter d. 6. Other vendors have other thoughts on this process. We understand that certain production environments (packaging is a good example) need to measure and review a trapped file. Barco succeeds well in this market. But many other production environments like the retail newspaper insert production, certain catalogs and certain magazine production requirements are much less challenging. We believe that if we can build a system that lets you apply things like separations, trapping and even screening in the RIP, and if you had a way to "display" this separated, trapped and screened file quickly on a modest Macintosh, that most people would prefer (like line screen) to set it up, check to see if the results meet the requirements, and then Rip Impose and plot...proofs, film, plates or direct to press, all from the same PDF file. 7. This workflow needs (well, we think "requires") that a single PDF file would be processed differently for each environment, and this is why PJTF (Portable Job Ticket Format) strategy becomes important. For example, the trapping on a digital press is quite different tan a sheet fed press, and different still for gravure...applying traps to a PDF file would make it quite "device dependent"...and I understand why certain production environments would not mind this, but it also makes it less editable...imagine changing the name of a product in an archive if the file is trapped, and you see the problem. 8. That all being said, nearly every vendor that I have spoke to can trap files that start as PDF, but this is quite different than trapping a PDF file, with the resulting file being a PDF files with little trapped objects. One can Distill the resulting files from Trapwise, and get objects, but it sure is tough to take see if the cyan plate has been spread back away from the edges of white type that has been knocked out of a rich black text box. 9. Which brings me to Quark XPress. Many people use (and rely on) the trapping tools within Quark. This assumes that you will be separating the file prior distilling. If you turn sepatrations on, the resulting "plate" files can be distilled, but I know of no one who is capable of laminating these over each other (like you would if you made a manual film proof, such as a 3M Matchprint). This makes checking the "plates" against each other quite cumbersome, to say the least! 10. Even if you use an Xtension to retain the trapping information when you create a composite PostScript file and distill it, as I said earlier, their are no Extensions that will "separate" the "plates" so you can check the yellow to the black (as I expressed in the earlier example in 8). Again, I think trapping a PDF file makes perfect sence, but I am not certain that we will be developing ways for you to review the results in Exchnage, anymore than you can review screen angles. In fact, like you set trapping in Quark (nut cannot review the results of thoes settings while in that Quark document) my thoughts are that you see systems that process the PDF file into something more akin to digital film...screened, trapped 1 bit CCITT group 4 like files, which, like a bit mapped fax, can be reviewed before it is sent to the particular device it was created for. Michael Jahn PDF Workflow Evangelist Agfa-Gevaert N.V. michael_jahn@agfa.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Nov-1997 23:54:42-GMT,1871;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05349 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:54:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA03682; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:55:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:52:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03391; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:52:11 -0600 Date: 13 Nov 97 15:52:23 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and trapping To: PDF Mail List , mjahn X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.1r2 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1332686207-245189991@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 mjahn wrote: > >10. Even if you use an Xtension to retain the trapping information when >you create a composite PostScript file > Michael, I have been searching high and low for just such an XTension, but it hasn't materialized for me. If you are aware of a real live XTension that will do this, please please please tell me what it is called and who makes it. Thanks. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Nov-1997 6:42:07-GMT,2910;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13322 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 23:42:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA18711; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:36:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:32:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA18611; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:32:36 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825654F.0003783B.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:42:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Using PDF in CDs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Another thing to be extremely careful about is the folder/directory structure of your files - you want to make sure the links and bookmarks work once the files are moved to CD. Also, be sure to name your folders/directories with standard 8char.3char extension names. Sue wordwise@execpc.com on 11/13/97 04:44:52 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: [PDF] Using PDF in CDs Thanks, Virgil, for being my first response on this list. vhhuston@switch.com wrote: > > ...the answer to your questions could be quite lengthy. I was hoping there might be a good book on the subject (though I didn't find one at Amazon), or a web tome on the subject. Using Distiller appears to be pretty straightforward. The producing CDs end of it seems more of an unknown to me, plus any ways that PDF on CD should be handled differently. [When I start something new, I tend to assume there are not-initially-obvious details that impact on the success of the project, so I go looking for those at the beginning.] Another helpful person has pointed me to a pdf prepress list. I'm joining and may find that useful. Will also check the manual that comes with (my client's) recorder for info and sources for more. Thanks for your other points. Chuck Miller Wordwise Appleton WI USA +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Nov-1997 15:35:25-GMT,1946;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23340 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 08:35:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA29570; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:17:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:13:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29430; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:13:47 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971114151318.0068f424@popa.ifb.co.uk> X-Sender: mwalker@popa.ifb.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:13:18 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Marc Walker Subject: [PDF] new subscriber Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hello i am new to this pdf list but not to using pdf. i work for a publishing company in edinburgh scotland currently designing a web site for the journal we produce. it is still under development but does contain the first issue in pdf. my main interests in pdf concern the design, layout and multimedia capabilities for online and cdrom distribution. i would be interested to know if there are any other scottish subscribers? thanks marc walker ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- marc walker media director http://www.euroburo.com home of euroburo - the european business journal +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Nov-1997 20:08:31-GMT,3724;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29997 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:08:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA03604; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:28:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:19:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03290; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:19:18 -0600 Message-ID: <346CA5AC.FA596CFD@avenza.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:25:32 -0500 From: Ted Florence Organization: ODM Technologies Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, mwalker@euroburo.com Subject: Re: [PDF] new subscriber X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0.1.32.19971114151318.0068f424@popa.ifb.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Marc, Firstly, let me say that pdf is a very effective way to publish just about anything either on the web, on CD, on intranets or just on the run of the mill floppy. But, the main reason I am writing to you is to draw your attention to Avenza's "special" pdf format, which can be read in Acrobat or Exchange just like any standard pdf, but as a real milestone allows the publication of photos, drawings and other graphics which are "intelligent" to the extent that they can contain layers of hidden data attributes. In other words, pictures that are actually worth 1000 words!!! Of course the entire image can then be searched and queried just like the regular text search that Acrobat and most word processors permit. Imaging searching a photo of a football team to find a particular player, or searching a company brochure or flyer for items satisfying certain criteria. if you would like to know more, please feel free to contact me or visit our website at www.avenza.com and look for JAMBuddy. Thanks and regards, Marc Walker wrote: > hello > > i am new to this pdf list but not to using pdf. > > i work for a publishing company in edinburgh scotland > currently designing a web site for the journal we produce. > it is still under development but does contain the first issue > in pdf. > > my main interests in pdf concern the design, layout and multimedia > capabilities > for online and cdrom distribution. > > i would be interested to know if there are any other scottish > subscribers? > > thanks > > marc walker > ----------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > marc walker > media director > > http://www.euroburo.com > > home of euroburo - the european business journal > +----------------------------------------------- > -------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe at: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists/ + > +-- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Ted Florence Executive Vice-President ted@avenza.com Avenza Software Developers of MAPublisher & CADpublisher Visit http://www.avenza.com Check out JAMBuddy and make your graphics INTELLIGENT Download FREE Software for quality mapping on the Internet +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Nov-1997 1:42:35-GMT,1987;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07528 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:42:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA13838; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:38:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:35:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA13687; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:35:28 -0600 Message-Id: <9711141943.AA05688@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and trapping Date: Fri, 14 Nov 97 14:47:05 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: "Dennis Walker" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I have been searching high and low for just such an XTension, but it >hasn't materialized for me. If you are aware of a real live XTension that >will >do this, please please please tell me what it is called and who makes it. I keep hearing that Luminous makes one, but I have neither actually seen it, nor tested it. The only way I have seen traps from Quark is by actually turning separations on, and printing plates to disk, which is not as useful as composite. But then again, I am a proponent of (and am working on systems that perform in RIP trapping, so I have no real level of urgency to have PDF files that have traps...sorry I can't be of more assistance here. Michael Jahn +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Nov-1997 12:17:15-GMT,1837;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18469 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 05:17:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA26345; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 06:14:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 15 Nov 1997 06:11:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26251; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 06:11:19 -0600 Message-ID: <346D915F.28B0B2D2@pagesz.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 07:11:11 -0500 From: Al Gore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Cannot print pdfs on network printers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are still having a problem printing PDF's on network (not local) printers. In all cases, the documents look correct in Acrobat but when we print, there are no spaces between any of the words. We have had the documents regenerated (they are using distiller 2.1) and the fonts embedded but without any luck. If you print to a local printer with "print true type as graphics", they print fine. We have tried this on several different brands of network printers. We are all using win 95 or nt clients with an os/2 server. Al +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Nov-1997 20:24:19-GMT,2202;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26578 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:24:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA05314; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 14:19:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 15 Nov 1997 14:12:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05024; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 14:12:07 -0600 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9711130435.AA04489@atla3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 15:12:02 -0500 To: PDF-L@emrg.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Font errors Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>"Unable to find or create the font 'ANKDCF+Helvetica-Bold+2'. Some >>characters may not display or print correctly." >> >>This basic message has appeared at odd times with different character >>strings and different fonts--Times Roman, ArialMT, and Wingdings--to name >>a few. >> >>Does anyone know how to decipher these messages and how we can correct >>this problem? >> >From what I've been told, this message is sometimes raised unnecessarily by the Exchange or Reader viewe due to some unecessarily rigorous error checking when the file is opened.. The fonts with "+2" in the name are TrueType Base 14 fonts that were subsetted by the printer driver at the time they were emitted from the parent application, so Distiller is forced to consider them subsets ("ANKDCF+" or "ABCXYZ+" preceding a font name indicates an embedded subset is in the document). Acrobat engineering is aware of this. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Nov-1997 11:24:18-GMT,2469;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA08076 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 04:24:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA30636; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:06:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 17 Nov 1997 04:56:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA30243; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 04:56:17 -0600 From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 Subject: [PDF] Cross Platform File Name Sensitivity X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:41:30 -0000 Message-ID: <879763526.2022948.0@nplum.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'd like to use pdfmark to make a link to another document. I'd really like one which works across platforms. I've looked at both the pdfmark specification (section 5.3) and the pdf specification (section 7.3 - not 6.6.6 as advertised) and am having trouble figuring it out, particularly as there aren't either many examples and not all permissable values for keys are listed. 1) What values can the FS (FileSystem) key take? 2) Will the FS key plus a relative path allow the file to be opened on any platform? I'm particularly sensitive to the fact that DOS only supports uppercase, Windows 95 can display a different case to the underlying file name (but doesn't care itself wrt case) and the Mac supports upper and lower case but doesn't care - unlike Unix. If not, what do I need to do wrt cases of file names to ensure that any links will still work? Can anyone give me any practical examples? Thanks. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ For information management and easy generation of Acrobat docs for Mac AND PC visit www.nplum.demon.co.uk Nic Plum Buckden, Huntingdon, Cambs. UK. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Nov-1997 12:21:00-GMT,3210;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09039 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:20:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA32074; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 06:04:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:58:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA31880; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:58:33 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF350.0835AD40.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Cross Platform File Name Sensitivity Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:31:40 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Make sure you are doing links that correspond to the "Go to view" rather than "Open file" action. And always generate relative file names. And stick to 8.3 file names. Take a look at what you get if you create a cross-document Go to View link, and examine the PDF file. Aandi On Monday, 17 November, 1997 10:42, Nic Plum [SMTP:nic@nplum.demon.co.uk] wrote: > > I'd like to use pdfmark to make a link to another document. I'd really like > one which works across platforms. I've looked at both the pdfmark > specification (section 5.3) and the pdf specification (section 7.3 - not > 6.6.6 as advertised) and am having trouble figuring it out, particularly as > there aren't either many examples and not all permissable values for keys > are listed. > > 1) What values can the FS (FileSystem) key take? > 2) Will the FS key plus a relative path allow the file to be opened on any > platform? > > I'm particularly sensitive to the fact that DOS only supports uppercase, > Windows 95 can display a different case to the underlying file name (but > doesn't care itself wrt case) and the Mac supports upper and lower case but > doesn't care - unlike Unix. > > If not, what do I need to do wrt cases of file names to ensure that any > links will still work? > > Can anyone give me any practical examples? > > Thanks. > -- > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > For information management and easy generation of Acrobat docs for Mac AND > PC > visit www.nplum.demon.co.uk > Nic Plum > Buckden, > Huntingdon, > Cambs. UK. > > > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 11:46:51-GMT,1701;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA08936 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:46:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA01507; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:42:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:34:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA01255; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:34:20 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:32:14 +0000 Message-ID: <00036CF4.1975@ifrpub.com> From: mail@ifrpub.com (IFR email) Subject: [PDF] Setting defaults To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can anyone please help me? I am using Distiller V3.0 on the Mac and want to create some default settings for watched folders, namely - auto thumbnail creation (I could do this with V2) - auto bookmark creation - set some security features and passwords any help would be much appreciated thx Adam Davies Electronic Publishing Manager IFR Publishing www.ifrpub.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 12:47:10-GMT,2200;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09956 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:47:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA02800; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:41:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:39:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA02687; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:39:13 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF41E.D77CAE40.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Setting defaults Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:37:55 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, 18 November, 1997 11:32, IFR email [SMTP:mail@ifrpub.com] wrote: > > Can anyone please help me? I am using Distiller V3.0 on the Mac and > want to create some default settings for watched folders, namely > > - auto thumbnail creation (I could do this with V2) Gone. Adobe took this out. No comment. You have to use Exchange. > - auto bookmark creation "Auto"? You should use an application which inserts pdfmark instructions into the PostScript files. If you want any other kind of automation, you'd need to define what you meant in some detail and hope Adobe implement it. > - set some security features and passwords No. Only Exchange can do this. Look in comp.text.pdf for a message "Help design the new distiller". This is an excellent opportunity to pass on your comments on how Distiller can be improved. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 13:00:13-GMT,1518;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10160 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:00:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA03350; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:52:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:51:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA03221; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:51:15 -0600 From: vhhuston@switch.com Date: Tue, 18 Nov 97 7:46:17 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] Graphics Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am having problems with graphics in documents printing properly after being distilled. I've tried many variations of compression settings, etc. Can anyone tell me if this is one of the bugs that 3.01 (if I ever get it) is supposed to fix? I'm worried that I'm beating a dead horse here. TIA Virgil +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 13:40:03-GMT,2674;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10915 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:40:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA05263; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:35:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:33:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA05156; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:33:38 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF426.7147D980.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Graphics Problems Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:32:16 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It isn't much good just messing with the settings and hoping to get it right - you need to understand what they do. (Sorry if that isn't the case, that's what it sounds like). If you want to remove all settings that can reduce image quality, at the cost, of course, of larger file sizes set the following: (Job options, Compression tab): Do not check downsample/subsample in any category. Do not select automatic compression in any category. Check ZIP (8 bit) for colour and greyscale and ZIP or CCITT Group 4 for monochrome. (Job options, advanced) Do not check convert CMYK images to RGB. Now, the image in the PDF file should be identical, pixel for pixel, with the image in the PostScript file. If it isn't you now have a different problem - and I would describe (a) origin of images (b) resolution and colour model of images (c) make up program used (d) printer and driver used for final printing and (e) symptoms that you see. Aandi On Tuesday, 18 November, 1997 12:46, vhhuston@switch.com [SMTP:vhhuston@switch.com] wrote: > > I am having problems with graphics in documents printing properly after > being distilled. I've tried many variations of compression settings, etc. > Can anyone tell me if this is one of the bugs that 3.01 (if I ever get it) > is supposed to fix? I'm worried that I'm beating a dead horse here. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 13:54:05-GMT,1995;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11164 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:54:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA05642; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:44:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:42:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA05550; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:42:21 -0600 From: SiriDeb@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:42:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971118084212_2118354313@mrin83.mail.aol.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Graphics Problems Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In a message dated 97-11-18 07:55:28 EST, vhhuston wrote: << I am having problems with graphics in documents printing properly after being distilled. I've tried many variations of compression settings, etc. Can anyone tell me if this is one of the bugs that 3.01 (if I ever get it) is supposed to fix? I'm worried that I'm beating a dead horse here. TIA Virgil >> Hi Virgil; Before we can help, please give us more info on your problem: What problems are you having? Not displaying the graphic? Not printing the document? Poor quality? Lost fonts within it? etc... What format graphics? What platform and print driver did you use to create the original doc and output file? What settings are you using within Distiller? What type printer are you sending it to? And anything else you think might be related. Regards; Deb Johannes +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 18:09:15-GMT,2093;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17058 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:09:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA13352; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:04:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:01:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA13166; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:01:49 -0600 Message-Id: <3471D6B4.3E4E@stortek.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:56:04 -0700 From: Kelly Carney X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF ->?-> pdfmark file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm looking for a way to read a pdf file that I've added bookmarks/links/etc to and create a file containing pdfmark code. Can you point me to some resource? I start with a bunch AutoCAD maps of our corporate campus. We run them through PDFWRITER to create the pdf files. Then we manually add bookmarks with links to views of our conference rooms and other places of interest. I don't want to have to redo all the bookmarks/links/etc each time the maps are updated. The conference rooms really don't move much. I've attempted to do this myself using PERL and have had some success. But I keep thinking someone else has done this. The other thing I do is create NAMED destinations so that web browsers can link directly to a particular view. Help? Kelly John Carney +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 18:23:06-GMT,2636;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17376 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:23:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA14196; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:19:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:17:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA14044; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:17:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3471D8A3.19DD@adobe.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:04:19 -0800 From: Acrobat Marketing Team Organization: Adobe Acrobat Marketing Team X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.text.pdf,comp.lang.postscript,comp.infosystems.www,adobe.windows95, To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com, pdf-announce@emrg.com, pdf@lists.emrg.com, dsuden@netnet.net Subject: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Control for ActiveX Update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Adobe Acrobat Control for ActiveX Update   If you recently upgraded to Microsoft(R) Internet Explorer 4.0, you will need to update your system with the latest ActiveX Control for Adobe(R) Acrobat(R) in order to enable PDF Search highlighting and page-at-a-time downloading (byteserving) of multipage PDF files, and to view PDF files within your browser.   If you are using Internet Explorer 3.0, 3.1, or 3.02, and you previously downloaded Adobe Acrobat Reader, you do not need this update; the ActiveX Control for those versions was automatically installed with the Acrobat Reader download. However, this new update is compatible with Internet Explorer versions earlier than 4.0. Note to developers, integrators and CD-ROM producers: You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software, including copies for commercial distribution.   The Control for ActiveX Update works with Adobe Acrobat versions 3.0 and later, in all languages. You may download the ActiveX Control Update from: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ocxdnld.html or ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/updaters/ocxinst.exe +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 19:10:53-GMT,1994;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18678 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:10:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA16048; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:01:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:59:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15963; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:59:57 -0600 Message-Id: <199711181859.KAA03721@orion.globalink.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 3.01 update - official list Date: Tue, 18 Nov 97 11:04:26 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Glenn Zucman To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 11/12/97 11:44 AM one Tom Thiersch, aka thiersch@env-sol.com, claimed: >Now, perhaps this sort of thing isn't a problem if one purchases the >Upgrades directly from Adobe -- I don't know, but YOU certainly should be >able to research this and find out. It's been my experience, with for example the Photoshop 3.05 upgrade that I never recieved, that Adobe's defacto policy, perhaps unintended, is that you have only purchased an upgrade if you purchased it directly from Adobe. Places like MacWarehouse (my experience) and now apparently even Emerge (your experience) don't count as paying for an upgrade. ---Artboy ------------------------------- A R T B O Y * U S A apparel for your walls! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 20:57:46-GMT,2488;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21356 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:57:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA19931; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:49:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:47:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19665; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:47:23 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:47:37 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] 11/17/97 ***Emerge EXTRA*** TOC Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 11/17/97 ***Emerge EXTRA*** v.02 n.21 is now available on the Web at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra111797.html The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: - TIME Mag's Weekly Teacher Guides in PDF: JFK - Evaluation Copy of DataWatch's Redwing Now Available - Details on Danka-Emerge Collaborative Marketing - Thanksgiving Holiday PDFs: Turkey Basics - Wisconsin 1997-98 Blue Book via Adobe Acrobat - Acrobat v.3.01 Font Issues Clarified - Test-drive Linked, Embedded & Bytserved PDF Files ...and more. Past issues also available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Subscribe to the email version at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html rgds~Kurt _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ --> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <-- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ ========================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 22:04:42-GMT,1947;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22870 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:04:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22491; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:57:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:55:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22395; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:55:08 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF4C8.DE9E8AE0@slsyd61p04.ozemail.com.au> From: Andrew Goodwin To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'ada@adobe.com'" Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:45:01 +-1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA22392 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I hope someone can help me with my problem here, I am setting up a User Documentation area using Acrobat over an companies Intranet. I am trying to link 2 documents together, that are in the same directory. When i use the link, it works fine on the computer i linked it on - but when they are transfered to the intranet site, and the link is used - it only brings up the first page of the document, instead of the actual lined page (page 78).. Does anyone have any ideas as to how this may happen. All help greatly appriciated.. Regards, Andrew. Quiltech Imaging +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 22:44:13-GMT,1927;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23868 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:44:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24765; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:38:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:36:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24682; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:36:40 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: METLIFE@METLIFENET From: "Elissa Sampson" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <85256553.007C1DEC.00@MetGwy02.metlife.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:37:49 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Active X Control for Reader 3.01 with IE 4.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 11/18/97 05:37 PM Just a thought: Why can't the new active X control for Reader 3.01 be put into a selectable downloadable reader install on the Adobe Web site? This would take away the need to go through a second download and installation in order to get Reader working correctly with byte-serving, etc., when running IE 4.0. Keeping both the separate install and redoing the reader exe so that the new Active X control is there would give people the best of both worlds. As others have said, redoing software installations over large user commnunities in large corporations is a difficult, time-consuming process. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 22:44:49-GMT,1519;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23879 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:44:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24375; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:32:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:30:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24300; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:30:38 -0600 Message-ID: <347217AF.5E18@istar.ca> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:33:19 -0500 From: Frank Falcone Organization: Digital Document Technologies Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] subsample vs downsample Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Question: In Distiller's Job Options under Color Bitmap Images: When would I want to use the "subsample to" option instead of "downsample to" ? Thank You. Frank Falcone Digital Document Technologies, Inc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Nov-1997 20:56:09-GMT,2514;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21321 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:56:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA20249; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:55:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:49:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19926; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:49:43 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:49:57 -0600 To: pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF-ANC] 11/17/97 ***Emerge EXTRA*** TOC Sender: owner-pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 11/17/97 ***Emerge EXTRA*** v.02 n.21 is now available on the Web at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra111797.html The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: - TIME Mag's Weekly Teacher Guides in PDF: JFK - Evaluation Copy of DataWatch's Redwing Now Available - Details on Danka-Emerge Collaborative Marketing - Thanksgiving Holiday PDFs: Turkey Basics - Wisconsin 1997-98 Blue Book via Adobe Acrobat - Acrobat v.3.01 Font Issues Clarified - Test-drive Linked, Embedded & Bytserved PDF Files ...and more. 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Very appropriate. Thank you. And I hope you have a great Thanksgiving too. -dg > ---------- > From: donnapotts@juno.com[SMTP:donnapotts@juno.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 1997 5:49 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] > > > I know this is early and off topic so I please forgive me. I just > wanted > to wish everyone a safe and happy Thanksgiving. :-) Donna > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 0:08:30-GMT,1357;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25799 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:08:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA27798; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:01:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:59:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27669; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:58:58 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:49:57 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Message-ID: <19971118.175002.4862.5.donnapotts@juno.com> References: <00036CF4.1975@ifrpub.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1 From: donnapotts@juno.com (donna j potts) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I know this is early and off topic so I please forgive me. I just wanted to wish everyone a safe and happy Thanksgiving. :-) Donna +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 9:08:03-GMT,1702;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA06360 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 02:08:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA08418; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:02:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 02:59:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA08291; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 02:59:01 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF4C9.4D1BC280.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] subsample vs downsample Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:55:04 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 One is quicker. One is more accurate and produces better results. I can't remember which is which, but it should be in the help... Aandi On Tuesday, 18 November, 1997 22:33, Frank Falcone [SMTP:falconef@istar.ca] wrote: > > In Distiller's Job Options under Color Bitmap Images: > When would I want to use the "subsample to" option instead of > "downsample to" ? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 9:54:29-GMT,2094;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07389 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 02:54:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA09572; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:49:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:48:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA09491; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:48:07 -0600 From: nplum To: "Inston, Aandi" , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: [PDF] Filename Sensitivity 2 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:11:17 -0000 Message-ID: <01bcf434$389e33a0$1f40dec2@demon.co.uk.nplum> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to Aandi for advsing how to view the link. The problems still remain though since I don't know how the case of the filename gets treated within Acrobat Reader on another platform e.g. Unix and I still don't know how to specify (if it is possible to do so) the relative path in a way that can be understood on the reading platform whatever case is used by the generating platform. Any ideas? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Under this sod lies another...! Imagination Unlimited at www.nplum.demon.co.uk Nic Plum Buckden, Huntingdon, Cambs. UK. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 10:07:30-GMT,1756;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07623 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:07:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA10108; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:04:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:02:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA09996; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:02:18 -0600 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 09:53:51 gmt From: "Gary Lawson" Message-Id: <9710198799.AA879962481@ccmailgate.napier.ac.uk> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Title: Autoindex and CD ROMs. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I have a query about the autoindex plugin and burning files to CD ROM. If I create an index on my own hard drive, it is easy enough to load the index using file>doc info>index in Exchange and that will work fine. However, if I the want to put that index onto a CD ROM, what will happen to that absolute path? What naming convention should be used to mount an autoindex? UNC? The Acrobat helpfiles state that it should just be in the format c:\PDFfiles\myindex.pdx. Thanks Gary Lawson. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 10:38:19-GMT,2578;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08166 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:38:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA10988; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:36:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:33:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA10900; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:33:17 -0600 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:33:15 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: RE: [PDF] subsample vs downsample To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <199711190533_MC2-28B8-23C5@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA10893 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Subsample is faster, downsample is better. Olaf Druemmer > > >One is quicker. One is more accurate and produces better results. >I can't remember which is which, but it should be in the help... > >Aandi > >On Tuesday, 18 November, 1997 22:33, Frank Falcone >[SMTP:falconef@istar.ca] wrote: >> >> In Distiller's Job Options under Color Bitmap Images: >> When would I want to use the "subsample to" option instead of >> "downsample to" ? >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 11:09:04-GMT,2637;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA08734 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:09:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA11899; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:06:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:04:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA11769; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:04:23 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF4DA.D08116A0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Title: Autoindex and CD ROMs. Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:02:36 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It should work if you index to the same location as the files (in fact, I think you have to), and autoindex the same way. There should not, then, be any absolute paths, and the whole collection of files, pdx, and index directories can be moved together. You don't need to burn a CDROM to test this; just rename the top level directory that everything is under. Don't me misled by what you type to Document Info > Index. This is a platform specific name which tells it where the index is now. It will be converted to a platform independent, relative, filename for storing in the PDF file - something you can verify by looking at the PDF file and searching for PDX. Aandi On Wednesday, 19 November, 1997 09:54, Gary Lawson [SMTP:g.lawson@napier.ac.uk] wrote:> > > I have a query about the autoindex plugin and burning files to CD ROM. > If I create an index on my own hard drive, it is easy enough to load > the index using file>doc info>index in Exchange and that will work > fine. However, if I the want to put that index onto a CD ROM, what > will happen to that absolute path? What naming convention should be > used to mount an autoindex? UNC? The Acrobat helpfiles state that it > should just be in the format c:\PDFfiles\myindex.pdx. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 14:32:24-GMT,2355;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12284 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:32:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA16928; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:27:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:21:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA16544; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:21:02 -0600 Message-Id: <199711191421.IAA16885@netexpress.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Joshua G. Fenton" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:23:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: [PDF] Title: Autoindex and CD ROMs. In-reply-to: <01BCF4DA.D08116A0.quite@dial.pipex.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi wrote: > It should work if you index to the same location as the files (in fact, I think > you have to), and autoindex the same way. There should not, then, be > any absolute paths, and the whole collection of files, pdx, and index > directories can be moved together. You don't need to burn a CDROM to > test this; just rename the top level directory that everything is under. <> Just my two cents... I agree with Aandi, and my experience has been that I can move directory structures, keep the structure intact, and indexes and index links move fine. HOWEVER, if you are using low-end CD-R software, you may have problems using that same index/link from the CD. I have had experience (unfortuantely) where it doesn't work from a CD when it did work off of magnetic. It has been suggested that the recording software wasn't truly ISO 9660 compliant, etc, etc, etc. Good luck! Joshua joshuaf at adc-qc dot com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 15:47:32-GMT,3141;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13920 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:47:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA19555; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:42:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:40:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19460; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:40:24 -0600 Message-ID: <34730880.37C0@acm.org> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:40:48 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: falconef@istar.ca Subject: [PDF] Subsample vs. Downsample Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tue, 18 Nov 1997 at 17:33:19, Frank Falcone wrote: > Question: > > In Distiller's Job Options under Color Bitmap Images: > When would I want to use the "subsample to" option instead of > "downsample to" ? > > Thank You. > > Frank Falcone > Digital Document Technologies, Inc. Frank - The basic difference between the two is the algorithm used to determine the new value. Both take a small array of values (such as a 3x3) and reduce it to a single value. The size of the array depends on the relative sizes of the current image and the requested image. 'Downsampling' takes all the values in the array and averages them to create the new value. This takes more time and will 'usually' produce a better value. 'Subsampling' takes the middle value in the array and uses it as the new value. This is faster. 'Downsampling' will usually produce a better result unless you hit exceptional conditions (such as many arrays with a drastic difference in the array (i.e., lots of edges)). No, you usually can't tell this in advance - it depends not only on the original picture, but also on the array size, which depends on the relative difference between the two resolutions. For more information see either: 'Acrobat Distiller Parameters', 'Technical Note #5151': p. 11, 'ColorImageDownsampleType' p. 14, 'GrayImageDownsampleType' p. 16, 'MonoImageDownsampleType' or: PDF Printing and Publishing, Mattias Andersson et al, Micro Publishing Press, 1997, ISBN 0-941845-22-2, p. 103. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Director of Research & Applied Technology The Xenos Group http://www.xenosgroup.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.663.0353 "Dilbert is my life..." =================================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 16:15:42-GMT,2187;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14552 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:15:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20519; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:11:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:09:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20369; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:09:51 -0600 X-Sender: aborovoy@popmail.ucsd.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:11:17 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Aaron Borovoy Subject: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 OK, I have looked in various sources for this info, and I haven't found it. Since it seems like other people have referred to it, I assume it can be done, and fairly easily: I work in a prepress/desktop publishing environment, and we have a Linotronic that we send files to, both paper and film. We generally output from the main DP programs (Quark/PageMaker), or from pre-PostScripted files. Is there a way to print actual color separations from a PDF file? I don't see the option from the Adobe Reader. Is there another program to use? Aaron Borovoy UCSD Publications Office (Prepress) University of California, San Diego aborovoy@ucsd.edu (619) 534-6840 (voice) (619) 534-0866 (FAX) *** I support domestic partnership benefits for University of California faculty, staff, and employees. If you do also, please show your support by adding this block of text to the bottom of your standard email signature. *** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 16:39:07-GMT,2418;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15248 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:39:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21248; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:25:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:24:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21133; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:24:22 -0600 Date: 19 Nov 97 09:25:15 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: [PDF] Corrupt PDF? To: PDF Mail List X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.1r2 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1332191007-3240833@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have created a one page pdf with form fields (MacOS 7.6.1, Acrobat 3.0.1), *very simple* with mostly black text and one 4/C lineart logo. It used to be fine, but now when filling out the form in either Reader or Exchange (3.0.1), it won't redraw itself. It doesn't matter why it needs to: from being covered by a print dialog, or switching back from another open pdf. Eventually an error dialog is given: "A drawing error occurred which is probably due to an out-of-memory condition..." It's done it on three machines, on Reader and Exchange with even *40MB* of application RAM assigned. This file is far too simple to require this much RAM. Is is possible that the PDF file is corrupt in some way? And secondly, I'd like to give users of Reader the ability to export and import form data (FDF). Can someone point me in the right direction to get specific coding instructions for buttons or however is easiest to do this. TIA for saving the rest of my hair. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 19:30:54-GMT,2310;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19445 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:30:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA26794; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:00:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:55:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA26558; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:55:35 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: METLIFE@METLIFENET From: "Elissa Sampson" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256554.0067B27A.00@MetGwy02.metlife.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:54:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Corrupt PDF? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 11/19/97 01:54 PM dennisw@inpractice.net on 11/19/97 11:25:15 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Elissa Sampson/Bsg/MetLife/US) Subject: [PDF] Corrupt PDF? I've only seen this message on machines running 1) Reader and 2) Windows (not NT or Win 95). If you set the resolution on the PC to VGA and the file paints and prints correctly then it may be a video driver/memory issue. >>"A drawing error occurred which is probably due to an out-of-memory condition..." TIA for saving the rest of my hair. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 19:44:22-GMT,2105;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19782 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:44:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA27283; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:10:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:08:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA27119; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:08:02 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] CD Burning Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:07:16 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I hope someone out there can help me on this one. When we create our Acrobat CDs for mac distribution, we make an alias to the Reader Installer, and place the alias in the root directory of the CD. This simplifies the installation of Acrobat Reader, as the user does not have to open up several folders: ie: Install:Acrobat:Mac: etc. We are having a problem with aliases under system 7.5.1. We are getting the message: "Alias Reader 3.01 Installer could not be opened because the original item could not be found." This does not happen under 7.5.5. We are using Toast 3.5 to burn CDs under Mac OS 7.6.1. > ________The One-Off CD Shops - Washington, DC > _________________4590 Graphics Drive > _______________White Plains, MD 20695 > __________(301) 870-0480 or (800) 678-8760 > ________Internet: http://www.oneoffcd.ags.com > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 21:13:46-GMT,3367;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22037 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:13:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA31133; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:43:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:39:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA30960; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:39:09 -0600 From: vhhuston@switch.com Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 15:28:54 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Graphics Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi, You are correct - I don't fully understand what all the settings do. I never had these types of problems with 2.1. I thought I had done what you suggested, but I guess I didn't do a very systematic job of trying different settings. Anyway, once again your suggestions worked. I will now attempt to refine the settings for the smallest file size with acceptable quality. Thank you. Virgil ------------- Original Text From: Aandi Inston , on 11/18/97 1:32 PM: It isn't much good just messing with the settings and hoping to get it right - you need to understand what they do. (Sorry if that isn't the case, that's what it sounds like). If you want to remove all settings that can reduce image quality, at the cost, of course, of larger file sizes set the following: (Job options, Compression tab): Do not check downsample/subsample in any category. Do not select automatic compression in any category. Check ZIP (8 bit) for colour and greyscale and ZIP or CCITT Group 4 for monochrome. (Job options, advanced) Do not check convert CMYK images to RGB. Now, the image in the PDF file should be identical, pixel for pixel, with the image in the PostScript file. If it isn't you now have a different problem - and I would describe (a) origin of images (b) resolution and colour model of images (c) make up program used (d) printer and driver used for final printing and (e) symptoms that you see. Aandi On Tuesday, 18 November, 1997 12:46, vhhuston@switch.com [SMTP:vhhuston@switch.com] wrote: > > I am having problems with graphics in documents printing properly after > being distilled. I've tried many variations of compression settings, etc. > Can anyone tell me if this is one of the bugs that 3.01 (if I ever get it) > is supposed to fix? I'm worried that I'm beating a dead horse here. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 10:41:15-GMT,2910;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08750 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 03:41:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA16535; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 04:36:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 04:32:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA16428; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 04:32:44 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971120093508.006af820@re.nettuno.it> X-Sender: reg001d1@re.nettuno.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:35:08 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: LinkService Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Aaron, you can separate PDF files from ACROBAT EXCHANGE using CRACKERJACK, a plug-in by Lantana Corporation. The URL is: www.lantanarips.com Regards, Vainer Gilioli LinkService Srl At 08.11 19/11/97 -0800, you wrote: > >OK, I have looked in various sources for this info, and I haven't found it. >Since it seems like other people have referred to it, I assume it can be >done, and fairly easily: > >I work in a prepress/desktop publishing environment, and we have a >Linotronic that we send files to, both paper and film. We generally output >from the main DP programs (Quark/PageMaker), or from pre-PostScripted files. > >Is there a way to print actual color separations from a PDF file? I don't >see the option from the Adobe Reader. Is there another program to use? > > > >Aaron Borovoy >UCSD Publications Office (Prepress) >University of California, San Diego >aborovoy@ucsd.edu > >(619) 534-6840 (voice) (619) 534-0866 (FAX) > > >*** I support domestic partnership benefits for University of California >faculty, staff, and employees. If you do also, please show your support by >adding this block of text to the bottom of your standard email signature. >*** > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Nov-1997 20:38:44-GMT,1735;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21062 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:38:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA29565; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:09:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:05:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA29395; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:05:49 -0600 Message-ID: <34734696.lawson@relay.LAWSONLUNDELL.COM> From: adrian@lawsonlundell.com X-Mailer: MimeLink version 1.50B Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:55:00 -0800 To: pdf-l@emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Word TOC Dot leaders in PDF X-Charset: us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 When we generate a PDF from Word6.0 using the Acrobat 3.0 PDF Writer if the word document contains a generated table of contents with dot leaders the table of contents shows up blank on the screen and printed out. The text for the table of contents actually flashes on the screen briefly but then is blanked out. Once the dot leaders are removed the problem goes away. Has anyone else seen this? I am sure something like the distiller would fix this, but we would rather use the PDF Writer. Regards, Adrian Mandy adrian@lawsonlundell.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 14:51:56-GMT,1808;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13051 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 07:51:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA22241; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:48:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:40:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA21892; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:39:59 -0600 Date: 20 Nov 97 07:40:57 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.1r2 X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1332110866-8065492@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 LinkService wrote: > >Dear Aaron, > >you can separate PDF files from ACROBAT EXCHANGE using CRACKERJACK, a >plug-in by Lantana Corporation. HEY EVERYONE: For the third time, CrackerJack DOES NOT color seperate pdf files. It only enables in-rip seps on rips that support it. Composite ps is still sent to the rip even using CrackerJack. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 15:10:10-GMT,1732;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13485 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:10:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA23083; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:07:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:06:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22975; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:06:24 -0600 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <347217AF.5E18@istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:05:42 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] subsample vs downsample Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Question: > >In Distiller's Job Options under Color Bitmap Images: >When would I want to use the "subsample to" option instead of >"downsample to" ? Use Subsample for extreme reductions in image resolution when Distiller performance is an issue. Example: PostScript files containing 500 dpi-plus images ("copydot" scans of ads in a publication, say) that need to be resampled to 72 dpi for on-line access. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 15:17:15-GMT,2166;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13634 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:17:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA23592; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:16:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:09:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23180; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:09:14 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:09:33 -0600 To: "'PDF Mailing List - commercial'" From: Dave Cornwell Subject: [PDF-ANC] CD Rom Security Sender: owner-pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Apart from C-Dilla, is anyone aware of any products that provide security for Acrobat files on CD-ROMS. I believe that there is a product called "Keychain" which does this but do not have contact details. The basic idea is to produce a single CD-ROM & allow subscribers to look only at the files for which they have paid. Ideally, it would also be possible to give a taster of files to which individuals have not subscribed. This post is on behalf of someone who can read this list but us unable to post to it - technology don't you just love it! Ergo please respond to the list &/or to "claire@ctl.com.cy" - not to me. Thanks drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + + Send questions or feedback to: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 15:36:49-GMT,3066;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14076 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:36:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24341; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:33:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:31:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA24148; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:31:51 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256555.005516EB.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 07:32:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Corrupt PDF? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We sometimes get this message if we create a PDF using PDF writer. If we create the same file using distiller, the file is fine! Sorry, but I don't have any idea why the file worked at one time and now doesn't. dennisw@inpractice.net on 11/19/97 08:25:15 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Corrupt PDF? I have created a one page pdf with form fields (MacOS 7.6.1, Acrobat 3.0.1), *very simple* with mostly black text and one 4/C lineart logo. It used to be fine, but now when filling out the form in either Reader or Exchange (3.0.1), it won't redraw itself. It doesn't matter why it needs to: from being covered by a print dialog, or switching back from another open pdf. Eventually an error dialog is given: "A drawing error occurred which is probably due to an out-of-memory condition..." It's done it on three machines, on Reader and Exchange with even *40MB* of application RAM assigned. This file is far too simple to require this much RAM. Is is possible that the PDF file is corrupt in some way? And secondly, I'd like to give users of Reader the ability to export and import form data (FDF). Can someone point me in the right direction to get specific coding instructions for buttons or however is easiest to do this. TIA for saving the rest of my hair. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 15:47:10-GMT,2017;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14334 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:47:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24989; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:42:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:41:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA24876; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:41:26 -0600 From: marcello@ibm.net Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:41:48 GMT Message-Id: <199711201541.PAA217512@out1.ibm.net> X-Sender: badai@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files X-Mailer: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All and hi Dennis! >>Dear Aaron, >>you can separate PDF files from ACROBAT EXCHANGE using CRACKERJACK, a >>plug-in by Lantana Corporation. >HEY EVERYONE: >For the third time, CrackerJack DOES NOT color seperate pdf files. It Er.. .then what will it do.... ? >only enables in-rip seps on rips that support it. Composite ps is still sent >to the rip even using CrackerJack. how that this all mean? what's an in-rip seps? how it different than separated 4C? whats a composite ps? so the rip should have CRACKERJACK plug in? sorry for the basic questions, but i guess thats why you have to tell everyone three times :) Regards, Marcello S. marcello@ibm.net "The secret of success is making your vocation your vacation" Mark Twain +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 16:00:43-GMT,2586;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14697 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:00:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA25858; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:56:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:54:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25645; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:54:21 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256555.00570EE6.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 07:54:36 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Word TOC Dot leaders in PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We've created lots of PDF with TOC dot leaders, using PDF writer and Word 7.0 - we've not had a problem. But, we've stopped using PDF writer because of other problems we have noticed - usually connected to a graphic, but sometimes just text missing or misaligned. Sue G. sgililland@nexstar.com adrian@lawsonlundell.com on 11/19/97 11:55:00 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf-l@emrg.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Word TOC Dot leaders in PDF When we generate a PDF from Word6.0 using the Acrobat 3.0 PDF Writer if the word document contains a generated table of contents with dot leaders the table of contents shows up blank on the screen and printed out. The text for the table of contents actually flashes on the screen briefly but then is blanked out. Once the dot leaders are removed the problem goes away. Has anyone else seen this? I am sure something like the distiller would fix this, but we would rather use the PDF Writer. Regards, Adrian Mandy adrian@lawsonlundell.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 17:07:33-GMT,3940;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17010 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:07:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29808; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:04:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:02:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29702; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:02:49 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:41:44 -0800 Message-Id: <34746838.2F1@adobe.com> From: Acrobat Marketing Team Subject: [PDF] PDF Maker for Microsoft Word/Office Old-To: acroicon@Adobe.COM Cc: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com, pdf-announce@emrg.com, pdf@lists.emrg.com, dsuden@netnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-URL: http://www.blueworld.com/lists/ X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta 3) ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/3.x/beta/pdfmaker.zip (1075K) ftp://ftp-pac.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/3.x/beta/pdfmaker.zip (1075K) DESCRIPTION Adobe Acrobat 3.0 enables you to create PDF files from nearly any application, including Microsoft(R) Word(R) 97. Adobe PDFMaker for Word 97 provides enhanced features when creating PDF files from Word 97 documents. PDFMaker for Word 97 is a macro for Microsoft Word 97 that automatically converts the following features in Word 97 documents to corresponding features in PDF files: - Headings in Word 97 are automatically converted to PDF bookmarks. - URLs are automatically converted to PDF Weblinks. - Cross-references within a document are converted to PDF links. - Page numbers in tables of contents and figures are automatically linked to their destinations. - Links to other documents are converted to PDF links. - Footnote and endnote citations are linked to the notes themselves. - Comments in Word 97 are converted to PDF text notes. - PDF article threads are created from text in Word 97 text boxes. - Document properties (e.g., author, creation date) in Word 97 are converted to PDF document information. SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS -- Microsoft Word 97 for Windows 95 or Windows NT -- To create PDF files, Adobe Acrobat PDFWriter 3.0 or Acrobat Distiller 3.0 (both included in Adobe Acrobat 3.0 for Windows) -- To view PDF files, Acrobat Reader or Acrobat Exchange (both included in Adobe Acrobat 3.0 for Windows) PDFMaker for Word 97 is not compatible with previous versions of Microsoft Word. HANDLING NOTES After downloading a ".zip" file in Windows, use WinZip(R) by Nico Mak Computing (http://www.winzip.com/) or PKZIP(R) by PKWare, Inc. (http://www.pkware.com/) to access the file's contents. Both products are available in tryout/evaluation versions. INSTALLATION NOTES 1. Double-click the Pdfmaker.exe file. 2. Follow the on-screen instructions. ADDITIONAL NOTES This pre-release version of PDFMaker for Word 97 does not represent the final product from Adobe. As a pre-release version, it may cause errors or other problems. Adobe Systems will not provide any technical support for this version. However, we encourage you to report any problems you encounter. To report problems, please send an e-mail to acromacro@adobe.com. PDF files created with the PDFMaker for Word 97 are compatible with Acrobat 2.1, 3.0, and 3.01. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 17:07:38-GMT,3977;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17016 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:07:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29361; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:58:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:55:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA29239; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:55:13 -0600 Message-ID: <34746838.2F1@adobe.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:41:44 -0800 From: Acrobat Marketing Team Organization: Adobe Acrobat Marketing Team X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.text.pdf,comp.lang.postscript,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc To: acroicon@Adobe.COM CC: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com, pdf-announce@emrg.com, pdf@lists.emrg.com, dsuden@netnet.net Subject: [PDF] PDF Maker for Microsoft Word/Office Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta 3) ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/3.x/beta/pdfmaker.zip (1075K) ftp://ftp-pac.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/3.x/beta/pdfmaker.zip (1075K) DESCRIPTION Adobe Acrobat 3.0 enables you to create PDF files from nearly any application, including Microsoft(R) Word(R) 97. Adobe PDFMaker for Word 97 provides enhanced features when creating PDF files from Word 97 documents. PDFMaker for Word 97 is a macro for Microsoft Word 97 that automatically converts the following features in Word 97 documents to corresponding features in PDF files: - Headings in Word 97 are automatically converted to PDF bookmarks. - URLs are automatically converted to PDF Weblinks. - Cross-references within a document are converted to PDF links. - Page numbers in tables of contents and figures are automatically linked to their destinations. - Links to other documents are converted to PDF links. - Footnote and endnote citations are linked to the notes themselves. - Comments in Word 97 are converted to PDF text notes. - PDF article threads are created from text in Word 97 text boxes. - Document properties (e.g., author, creation date) in Word 97 are converted to PDF document information. SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS -- Microsoft Word 97 for Windows 95 or Windows NT -- To create PDF files, Adobe Acrobat PDFWriter 3.0 or Acrobat Distiller 3.0 (both included in Adobe Acrobat 3.0 for Windows) -- To view PDF files, Acrobat Reader or Acrobat Exchange (both included in Adobe Acrobat 3.0 for Windows) PDFMaker for Word 97 is not compatible with previous versions of Microsoft Word. HANDLING NOTES After downloading a ".zip" file in Windows, use WinZip(R) by Nico Mak Computing (http://www.winzip.com/) or PKZIP(R) by PKWare, Inc. (http://www.pkware.com/) to access the file's contents. Both products are available in tryout/evaluation versions. INSTALLATION NOTES 1. Double-click the Pdfmaker.exe file. 2. Follow the on-screen instructions. ADDITIONAL NOTES This pre-release version of PDFMaker for Word 97 does not represent the final product from Adobe. As a pre-release version, it may cause errors or other problems. Adobe Systems will not provide any technical support for this version. However, we encourage you to report any problems you encounter. To report problems, please send an e-mail to acromacro@adobe.com. PDF files created with the PDFMaker for Word 97 are compatible with Acrobat 2.1, 3.0, and 3.01. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 17:19:29-GMT,2358;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17396 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:19:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA30112; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:09:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:07:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA30000; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:07:31 -0600 Message-ID: <19971120090755.10630@sun630mp.infomania.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:07:55 -0800 From: Tom Mornini To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files References: <1332110866-8065492@mail.inpractice.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <1332110866-8065492@mail.inpractice.net>; from Dennis Walker on Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 07:40:57AM -0700 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 07:40:57AM -0700, Dennis Walker wrote: > >you can separate PDF files from ACROBAT EXCHANGE using CRACKERJACK, a > >plug-in by Lantana Corporation. > > HEY EVERYONE: > > For the third time, CrackerJack DOES NOT color seperate pdf files. It > only enables in-rip seps on rips that support it. Composite ps is still sent > to the rip even using CrackerJack. What's the big distinction here? CrackJack does more than that, allowing correct handling of spot colors, which most in-RIP sep systems don't have proper tools to handle, selection of arbitrary film size, position on the arbitrary film size, setup of line screen, rendering intent, etc. While I agree with you technically, I don't think most people really give a crap about how it does what it does. CrackerJack is definitely one tool that people need if they need to output seps of PDF files on a regular basis. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 17:25:30-GMT,2472;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17580 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:25:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA30866; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:19:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:18:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA30754; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:18:11 -0600 Message-ID: <19971120091820.46846@sun630mp.infomania.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:18:20 -0800 From: Tom Mornini To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files References: <199711201541.PAA217512@out1.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <199711201541.PAA217512@out1.ibm.net>; from marcello@ibm.net on Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 03:41:48PM +0000 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 03:41:48PM +0000, marcello@ibm.net wrote: > how that this all mean? Undecipherable sentence. > what's an in-rip seps? PostScript Level 2 has the ability to print separations from color PS files. The separations typically printed out of Quark, PageMaker, CorelDraw, etc are actually sent as 4 black and white pages to the RIP, with the separations performed on the host. in-RIP separation allows a single color page to be sent to the RIP, and several pieces of film to be generated at the RIP. > how it different than separated 4C? Good question. Adobe has indicated that results are not identical to host separations in all circumstances. That should be obvious, given the very different methods of separation and handling, but it is a little disturbing none-the-less. > whats a composite ps? A color PostScript file, like one you would print to a color printer. > so the rip should have CRACKERJACK plug in? No, it's a plug-in for Exchange. http://www.lantanarips.com -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 17:32:00-GMT,2248;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17777 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:31:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29668; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:02:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:00:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29497; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:00:36 -0600 Date: 20 Nov 97 10:01:30 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.1r2 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1332102434-8573122@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 marcello wrote: >>only enables in-rip seps on rips that support it. Composite ps is still sent >>to the rip even using CrackerJack. >how that this all mean? >what's an in-rip seps? >how it different than separated 4C? >whats a composite ps? >so the rip should have CRACKERJACK plug in? If CrackerJack could color separate a pdf file, it would print from Exchange first a cyan page, then a magenta page, then a yellow page, then a black page (or spot color pages) to the RIP (output device, printer, etc.). But what it actually does is send one full color page to the RIP with a command to instruct the *RIP* to perform the color separation of the "composite" (full color) postscript page. Hope this helps. Sorry for any perceived crankiness; it's been one of those mornings. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 17:35:49-GMT,1949;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17889 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:35:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA31778; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:35:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:33:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA31662; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:33:13 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:19:40 +0000 Message-Id: <34748D4C.5C2B0689@geocities.com> From: Fabrizio Pivari Subject: [PDFdev] Re: PDF Maker for Microsoft Word/Office Old-To: acrobat@blueworld.com Cc: acroicon@Adobe.COM, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-announce@emrg.com, pdf@lists.emrg.com, dsuden@netnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-URL: http://www.blueworld.com/lists/ X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Acrobat Marketing Team wrote: > Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta 3) Beta 4 from 10/22/97 at http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/acwin.htm Ciao -- _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ Fabrizio Pivari _/ _/ _/ mailto:pivari@hotmail.com _/_/_/ _/_/_/ mailto:pivari@yahoo.com _/ _/ mailto:pivari@geocities.com _/ _/ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3469/ +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDFdev is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 18:18:38-GMT,1911;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19145 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:18:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01298; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:18:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:15:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA01160; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:15:33 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:19:40 +0000 Message-Id: <34748D4C.5C2B0689@geocities.com> From: Fabrizio Pivari Subject: [PDFdev] Re: PDF Maker for Microsoft Word/Office Old-To: acrobat@blueworld.com Cc: acroicon@Adobe.COM, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-announce@emrg.com, pdf@lists.emrg.com, dsuden@netnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-URL: http://www.blueworld.com/lists/ X-Loop: karlin@rsch.com To: nkarlin@ix.netcom.com Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Acrobat Marketing Team wrote: > Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta 3) Beta 4 from 10/22/97 at http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/acwin.htm Ciao -- _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ Fabrizio Pivari _/ _/ _/ mailto:pivari@hotmail.com _/_/_/ _/_/_/ mailto:pivari@yahoo.com _/ _/ mailto:pivari@geocities.com _/ _/ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3469/ +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDFdev is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 19:38:42-GMT,2282;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21268 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:38:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA04790; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:25:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:22:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04558; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:22:19 -0600 Date: 20 Nov 97 12:22:56 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.1r2 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1332093946-9084267@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom Mornini wrote: > >While I agree with you technically, I don't think most people really give >a crap about how it does what it does. CrackerJack is definitely one tool >that people need if they need to output seps of PDF files on a regular >basis. > >-- Tom Mornini >-- InfoMania Tom, You know very well from discussions on pdf-prepress-l that many, many, many SBs and printers don't have or don't use in-rip sep capability. I think they would give a big crap if they spent several hundred dollars for a utility, expecting it to sends seps from a pdf to their older rips, when in fact it won't. I agree that if you've got the cool hardware, CrackerJack is a must have. But the misconception about it printing seps itself is a big one, because a lot of people could get burned on their purchase. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 19:50:38-GMT,2605;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21542 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:50:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA05659; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:42:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:41:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05521; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:41:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3474924F.1489E184@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:41:03 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] CD Burning References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Czajka, Mark wrote: > > I hope someone out there can help me on this one. When we create our > Acrobat CDs for mac distribution, we make an alias to the Reader > Installer, and place the alias in the root directory of the CD. This > simplifies the installation of Acrobat Reader, as the user does not have > to open up several folders: ie: Install:Acrobat:Mac: etc. > > We are having a problem with aliases under system 7.5.1. We are getting > the message: "Alias Reader 3.01 Installer could not be opened because > the original item could not be found." This does not happen under 7.5.5. > We are using Toast 3.5 to burn CDs under Mac OS 7.6.1. Oh boy, yeah, I had the *exact* same symptom. I concluded that there was some ISO 9660/MacOS version backwards compatibility problem with aliases. If you Get Info on the aliases on the different machines, you will see that one looks correct and the other looks horribly funky. If you feel like stabbing in the dark a little, you may want to try burning it under 7.5.1, in keeping with the above theory. Me, I just got rid of the alias. Maybe someone with a deeper knowledge of alias implementation on a Mac/ISO 9660 shared hybrid could comment. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 23:17:11-GMT,2437;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26712 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:17:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13874; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:14:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:10:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA13637; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:10:08 -0600 Message-Id: <9711202209.AB14439@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 17:14:14 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , "pdf" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >LinkService wrote: >> >>Dear Aaron, >> >>you can separate PDF files from ACROBAT EXCHANGE using CRACKERJACK, a >>plug-in by Lantana Corporation. > >HEY EVERYONE: > >For the third time, CrackerJack DOES NOT color seperate pdf files. It >only enables in-rip seps on rips that support it. Composite ps is still sent >to the rip even using CrackerJack. This is simply NOT true. One can take a CMYK PDF file, and then, using CrakerJack, creat 4 "plate" postScript files that can be imaged individually, or indeed, Distilled as individual PDF files (or individual plates that represent the Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black printing plates...thesed can be used in high-end prepress environments. However (and this is where the confusion comes in) if you have an RGB image, or anything that is NOT a CMYK image, the resulting separations of these images or objects will not be separated properly, and therfore, it can be said that CrakerJack does not perform color space conversions from "xyz" or "RGB" colorspace images (which can be refered to a "making separations") In this sence, Dennis is quite correct. hope that helps. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 23:17:41-GMT,1723;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26730 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:17:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13866; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:14:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:09:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA13557; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:09:39 -0600 Message-Id: <9711202209.AB14439@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Corrupt PDF? Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 17:14:03 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I have created a one page pdf with form fields (MacOS 7.6.1, Acrobat >3.0.1), *very simple* with mostly black text and one 4/C lineart logo. It >used >to be fine, but now when filling out the form in either Reader or >Exchange (3.0.1), it won't redraw itself. ...a 4 color line art?? ...is this a tiff, or an illustrator like file? if a bitmap/raster...what resolution? if it is an illustrator type file...lots of points along a path? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 23:18:16-GMT,1723;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26761 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:18:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13871; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:14:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:09:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA13581; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:09:42 -0600 Message-Id: <9711202209.AB14439@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Corrupt PDF? Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 17:14:03 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I have created a one page pdf with form fields (MacOS 7.6.1, Acrobat >3.0.1), *very simple* with mostly black text and one 4/C lineart logo. It >used >to be fine, but now when filling out the form in either Reader or >Exchange (3.0.1), it won't redraw itself. ...a 4 color line art?? ...is this a tiff, or an illustrator like file? if a bitmap/raster...what resolution? if it is an illustrator type file...lots of points along a path? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Nov-1997 23:18:16-GMT,3973;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26763 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:18:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13873; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:14:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:09:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA13535; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:09:22 -0600 Message-Id: <9711202207.AB14275@atla3> Subject: RE: [PDF] Graphics Problems Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 17:12:15 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you go to my site at http://www.jahn.org/pdf3/DistillerSetup.pdf, I have consulted with quite a few large printing companies (and Adobe) on this, and you might find it helpful... >(Job options, Compression tab): > >Do not check downsample/subsample in any category. I appreciate this "Distill safley" approach, so I will not disagree out of hand, but from a "dont send 6 mbs when 600k will do" I take a little issue with this, as often people place a 300 pixel per inch file into a page and then reduce it significantly, and as the required resolution to render the image was 300 ppi, and (in the case of a 50% reduction, this would be 600 ppi, which is now way more than it needs to be file size wize to render that image, well, I tend to suggest that you downsample to the minimum required resolution...it will not actually "kick in" untill a threshold of more than 1 and a half times the amount entered...so, if you had a 300 ppi file, and it was in a page at 2 inches by 2 inches, and we then see that it was reduced 50% (and is now 1 inch by 1 inch, the file would downsample. > >Do not select automatic compression in any category. > >Check ZIP (8 bit) for colour There are many examples where zip compression of color images swell to become larger than no compression...try a wood grain image sometime. Either none or (go ahead and show me on a printed example to artifacts, I DARE you to try !) select "Medium-low compression or (okay, go ahead and show me the artifacts when you zoom in to the pixel level on a Scitex system) Low-compression. *grin* > and greyscale and ZIP or CCITT Group >4 for monochrome. Zip typically will reduce a monochrome 1 bit image about 41 times smaller. CCITT Group 4 typically will reduce a monochrome 1 bit image about 87 times smaller. I see very few instances where ZIP compresses 1 bit tiff image files smaller than CCITT group 4, so I tend to recommend CCITT Group 4. > >(Job options, advanced) > >Do not check convert CMYK images to RGB. That is an important one!!!! > >Now, the image in the PDF file should be identical, pixel for pixel, >with the image in the PostScript file. This would be wonderful if it was absolutley true, and I expect it will be the case sometime soon, but unfortunately, there are cases (greyscale tiffs that were colorized using the style menu in Quark, or Adobe Photoshop Doutones, Tritones and Quadtones) where the original PostScript file assumed you were planning on making color separations, the images are represented improperly in the PostScript file, and Distiller cannot fix or otherwise represent these images in the way you were expecting, as a black and a spot color, for example. Hope this helps! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 1:20:30-GMT,11796;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29614 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 18:20:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA17718; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:07:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:04:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA17533; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:04:30 -0600 From: "VOZ Jean-Luc" To: Subject: [PDF] Misc Problems related to PDF and fonts Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:59:11 +0100 Message-ID: <01bcf618$ae2a7f80$702e07c2@voz.innet.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear PDF users, dear Adobe support, First of all, I would like to apology for this very long message. We are the Central Secretariat of CEN (European Committee for Standardization) and are planning to migrate to an electronic production of European Standards (in a non-revisable format that could be printed the same way everywhere (TIFF, Digital Paper, PDF,...), mainly to safe production and mailing costs. This represents at least 20.000 pages/month of highly structured documents (equations, tables, ...) to be distributed in more than 40 countries. The documents are drafted by experts and sent to us either in MS Word (6,7 or 8), or in WordPerfect 5.2 or 6.1 for Windows (Most of the fonts used are TT equivalents to the core base 13 T1 fonts). Until now, PDF seems to be the most interesting solution (small size, string searching and index building capabilities, high portability,...); but we are facing some problems that could discourage us from selecting this format. The PDF production planned method is the following (the one that gave the most reliable results). 0. Windows 95 PCs (Pentium 166 - 32 MB RAM). 1. Use ATM 3.02 (reliable screening of printouts with T1 fonts) 2. Print the Word Processor files to a PostScript file. Driver: Adobe PS 4.11 Font options: - use the fonts substitution table (there is a nearly no difference in glyphs and the produced PDF files are small with string indexing and searching) - Send other TT fonts as outlines (those strings won't be searchable) - Threshold to switch: 1 pixel - Do NOT favor TT fonts with same name PostScript options: - Optimise for speed - Pure binary data 3. Distill the PS files to PDF with Distiller 3.01. Acrobat 3.0 (PDF1.2) format. Font options: - Embed all fonts - Subset fonts below 99% (no chance of mixups with local systems). I have listed below the set of problems encountered using the above-mentioned production method together with related questions. Any comments on the topics are welcome... Thank you in advance. Since this message is very long, please do not include the entire body of this message in your reply. 1. Fonts ----------- For test purpose, I have created small files in Word6, 7, 8 and WP5.2 and 6.1 These files only contain 26 lines with all the printable characters: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789³°_¨*£%+/.?>²& é"'(§è!çà)$^ùµ=:;,<|@#{}[]~©®ß- Each line corresponds to one of the core base 13 T1 fonts or one of their TT equivalents in regular, italic, bold and bold-italic: T1 TT Helvetica Arial Times Times New Roman Courier Courier New Symbol Symbol (regular only) FIRST PROBLEM: When I print-preview my files (using the various Word Processors listed above) with a non-postscript printer selected, all the lines looks like they should (TT font are fine and ATM render T1 fonts correctly). But when I select a the PostScript printer (Adobe 4.11), the result is the same, except for all the Courier (T1) fonts, which are replaced by Multiple Master Serif fonts on screen (very different from Courier). When ATM is not running, the T1 fonts are replaced by their TT equivalent on screen (as usual); but the Courier fonts remain replaced by MM fonts ! This is really disturbing, because after the produced PS file is distilled, the resulting PDF file shows the fonts requested by the PRT driver setup: TT replaced by their T1 equivalents (except for Symbol: see SECOND PROBLEM) and T1 OK (all Courier fonts are now fine). QUESTION: What can I do in order to have my Courier fonts rendered on print-preview as they will be on the PDF file ? SECOND PROBLEM: All the files, when printed, lead to PS files with the following font information: %%DocumentNeededFonts: Helvetica %%+ Times-Roman %%+ Courier %%+ Helvetica-Bold %%+ Times-Bold %%+ Courier-Bold %%+ Helvetica-Oblique %%+ Times-Italic %%+ Courier-Oblique %%+ Helvetica-BoldOblique %%+ Times-BoldItalic %%+ Courier-BoldOblique %%DocumentSuppliedFonts: Symbol It is thus clear that the Symbol font is not substitued (this might be due to the fact that T1 and TT Symbol have the same name but I asked the driver to NOT favor TT fonts with same name). If I wish to have the Symbol font substituted, I need either to set the font PS driver option to 'Always use built-in printer fonts' (which is not acceptable for TT fonts other than base 13 equivalents), or to remove the Symbol TT font from the system. QUESTION 1: Why is the Symbol font not substituted (the produced PS and PDF files are much larger) ? After having distilled the PS file, the only reported fonts in the PDF document (File->Document Info->Fonts) are the following: - Times-Roman - Times-Bold - Times-Italic - Times-BoldItalic - Helvetica (for Helvetica & Helvetica-Oblique) - Helvetica-Bold (for Helvetica Bold & BoldOblique) - Courier (for Courier & Courier-Oblique) - Courier-Bold (for Courier Bold & BoldOblique) - MSTT31c28f00 (for Symbol) The PDF file does look and print OK (the characters are in italic when requested), even if the oblique characters (Helvetica and Courier) are too slanted, compared to the direct printout from the Word processor file (a backslash in italic \ looks like a pipe |). QUESTION 2: Why Helvetica and Courier Oblique fonts are built by slanting Regular fonts in place of a direct usage of the Italic font ? I tried to go further and played with the 'Text Attribute' Tool (Edit->Text Attributes); it gave me the ability to select a lot of different fonts (in addition to my existing TT Windows fonts). These fonts were then reported by the File->Document Info->Fonts menu topic as follows: Font Type Encoding Used Type Courier T1 Custom Courier Type1 Courier-Bold T1 Custom Courier-Bold Type1 Courier-Oblique T1 Windows Courier-Oblique Type1 Courier-BoldOblique T1 Windows Courier-BoldOblique Type1 Times TT Windows AdobeSansSerifMM Type1 Times,Bold TT Windows AdobeSansSerifMM Type1 Times,Italic TT Windows AdobeSansSerifMM Type1 Times,BoldItalic TT Windows AdobeSansSerifMM Type1 Times-Roman T1 Custom Times-Roman Type1 Times-Bold T1 Custom Times-Bold Type1 Times-Italic T1 Custom Times-Italic Type1 Times-BoldItalic T1 Custom Times-BoldItalic Type1 Helvetica,Bold TT Windows AdobeSansSerifMM Type1 Helvetica,Italic TT Windows AdobeSansSerifMM Type1 Helvetica,BoldItalic TT Windows AdobeSansSerifMM Type1 Helvetica T1 Custom Helvetica-Roman Type1 Helvetica-Bold T1 Custom Helvetica-Bold Type1 Helvetica-Oblique T1 Windows Helvetica-Oblique Type1 Helvetica-BoldOblique T1 Windows Helveticas-BoldOblique Type1 Symbol T1 BuiltIn Symbol Type1 NB: When ATM is not installed, I can only select either my Windows TT fonts either the T1 fonts which are already reported as present into the document. QUESTIONS: 3. What are all these fonts for ? 4. I do not have any Times or Helvetica TrueType font installed; I suppose it is the reason why the used font is AdobeSSMM; but why are they possible to select ? 5. What is the difference between Custom, Built-In and Windows encoding (I though that all base 13 T1 fonts were Buit-In in the Reader) ? NOTES: - I spent a lot of time trying to change parameters (font location, PS drv and Distiller options, ...) - I tried to remove and reinstall ATM and PS printers many times (and in different orders) as explained in the Adobe Tech Sol DB under 'Acrobat Exchange or Reader Font Info Dialog Box Lists Fonts as "MSTT31XXXXX"'. - I tried to reinstall Win95 and Acrobat many times - I tested these problems on different Win 95 platforms 2. Printing issue - Windows 3.* & 95 ------------------------------------ Our customers will receive 500-1000 PDF files/month. If they wish to print a set of them, it is not directly possible to print all the files in batch during the night. This is a feature of the Reader for non-postscript printers, see the Readme file: Drag-and-drop Printing - You can only drag one PDF file at a time onto printer icons for non-PostScript printers. For PostScript printers, you can drag-and-drop multiple PDF files for printing. [176051]. The only solution (for non-postscript printers under W95) is to open a file; print it; open the next one, print it, ... which is of course not acceptatory. We have written a small VB program that uses the 'AcroRd32.exe /t "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"' command to submit the jobs one after the other, but some files are not printed (print queue detection problem ?) QUESTIONS: 1. Is there another way that could enable the user to select a list of PDF files to be printed in background on non-PostScript printers ? 2. Is Adobe trying to find a solution or is it too interesting to oblige small customers to buy -expensive- PostScript printers ? 3. Multilanguage support ------------------------ As an international organisation, we also work with multilanguage documents and we sometime need to write in other language (mainly Greek). For this, we have installed the W95 multilanguage features (with WGL4 base TrueType fonts) and we change our codepage on the fly. For documents written with other codepages (ex.: ARIAL-Greek), the 'use substitution table' option of the Adobe driver leads to PS files that are not correctly distilled into PDF (ex.: extremely large PDF files for Word8, no glyph for Word7). QUESTIONS: 1. How does the distiller handle TrueType-Open ? 2. What will be the Adobe policy for the usage UNICODE inside PDF ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jean-Luc Voz Electronic Information Exchange Project Analyst European Comittee for Standardization Rue de Stassart, 36 B-1050 Brussels Belgium Tel: +32 2 55 00 981 Fax: +32 2 55 00 819 voz@cenclcbel.be jlvoz@innet.be (home) Posted To: - Adobe Technical Support (http://www.adobe.com/misc/comments.html) - comp.text.pdf - EMERGE PDF list (http://emerge.pdfzone.com/) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 2:46:00-GMT,4129;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01327 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:45:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA20611; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:38:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:34:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA20385; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:34:26 -0600 Message-Id: <9711202318.AB25315@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 18:22:49 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >If CrackerJack could color separate a pdf file, it would print from >Exchange first a cyan page, then a magenta page, then a yellow page, then a >black page (or spot color pages) to the RIP (output device, printer, etc.). Which is what it does, exactly, when you use it properly and your PDF file has been created properly. You can even selectively print only the single plate you need. >But what it actually does is send one full color page to the RIP with a >command to instruct the *RIP* to perform the color separation of the >"composite" (full color) postscript page. *sigh* yes, it is possible to ask Lantanas Plug-in to do this, but Crakerjack also offers the user the ability to send files in as separated plates. In the Print Options dialog box, select the Color tab and click over the Separations button. You can even print spot colors as long as you prited you composite PostScript properly from the orginal application (that is, spot colors as spots, but composite, not plates) and you have dragged the prologue.ps and epilogue.ps files from the highend folder (tucked inside the Xtras folders) and drag it to the same level of Distiller and then restatr Distiller and then click over "Distill with prologue.ps / epilogue.ps" in the advanced setting tab in Distiller Job Options. This will give you the ability to keep the spot color definitons in your PDF file, and then (of course) gives the CrakerJack plug-in the ability to separate them...and indeed, individually as well. > >Hope this helps. Sorry for any perceived crankiness; it's been one of >those mornings. No wonder you are cranky!!!...you must be doing something wrong! It would make me cranky too! *smile* Seriously, we have been doing this succssful since Acrobat beta program nearly a year ago, when the product was called Extended Print Services. So enough on this already. CrakerJack permits you to color separate PDF files. Buy it, it works perfectly. Having said that, we at Agfa would rather suggest in-rip seps, where you drop your PDF files into a folder with a PJTF, and "leave the driving to us"...as PS3 systems can interperate, rasterize, separate (and in our case) trap and screen ...all in the rip. Sorry about that shameless plug there...really, I do think it relavent though... Respectfully, Reason #173 to fear technology... Michael Jahn o o o o o o> o PDF Workflow Evangelist .|. \|. \|/ // X \ | <| <|> Agfa Division Bayer Corp. /\ >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Mr. Asciihead learns the Macarena. Wilmington, MA P 978.658.5600 Ext. 5504 01887-1069 F 978.658.7968 Cell Phone 617.605.5716 E michael_jahn@agfa.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 3:23:01-GMT,2818;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02040 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:23:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA22210; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:18:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:16:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA22036; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:16:02 -0600 Message-Id: <199711210316.WAA01027@dax.cc.uakron.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:16:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] /AA type actions In-reply-to: <9711202318.AB25315@atla3> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All; I've been working on a pdf game similar to Gary Cosimini's Quizbord.pdf...but with a few refinements. The game is written in TeX and converted to pdf. One problem I've noticed is with a pdfmark like the following: [ {ThisPage} << /AA << /C << /H true /S /Hide /T (11) >> >> >> /PUT pdfmark The problem is a decided flicker when the reader is writing the screen. I seems that the page is being written twice. This is especially noticeable when I press `Page Down'. When the current page is closed, Acrobat must hide a certain field before opening the next page; this seems to create a flickering effect giving the impression that the page is written twice. If fact, some times the page does not get entirely written---reader stops "half way" down the page. Has anyone observed this? Any comments? Remedies? The Jeopardy-type game will be available as soon as I can create 25 math questions! Regards, dps Dr. D. P. Story Department of Mathematical Sciences The University of Akron Akron, OH 44325 tele: (330) 972-7514 e-mail: dpstory@uakron.edu Home Page: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Home of ... e-Calculus: A Calculus I Tutorial on the WeB. Written in TeX and converted to the PDF format. See it at http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html and of ... An Algebra Review in 10 Lessons TeX to PDF http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 6:17:24-GMT,2607;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05439 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:17:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA26887; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:14:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:10:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA26766; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:10:39 -0600 Message-ID: <34752600.188E@acm.org> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:11:12 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Xplor Global Sessions; Ethics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDF-L subscribers: To any of you interested, my four Xplor Global presentations are now available from the Xenos Web site at: "http://www.xenosgroup.com/files/files.htm" (look at the top of the 'Slide Show Presentations' section). The sessions are: "Internet 101" (the ever-popular) "Is Hardcopy Dead?" "1:1 Marketing Experiences" and a new type of session this year, "Can Xplorers Afford To Have Ethics in the 90s Business Environment?" As always, feel free to peruse and email me with any questions, comments or suggestions. However, I am especially inviting comments on the Ethics session. * Do you have any case studies you can share (please remove all personal and company names or I will do so before using them in another such presentation)? * General comments on the subject? * Do you believe we, as professionals, pay enough attention to ethics in our professional life? If not, what should we do to correct it? Looking forward to some interesting responses, Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Director of Research & Applied Technology The Xenos Group http://www.xenosgroup.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.663.0353 "Dilbert is my life..." =================================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 8:28:14-GMT,1932;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07984 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:28:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA29787; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:25:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:21:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA29637; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:21:27 -0600 X-Sender: oura@150.2.192.250 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora v1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Maristela Oura Subject: [PDF] Error on distiller Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:32:33 +0900 Message-ID: <1331988943-83716104@id.geyms.med.ge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am trying to convert a ps file to pdf but there is a error it might be because the size of ps file. For example : My document has 40 pages (ps file = 850 kb) and at page 30 it there is a error. I have to divide the file into 2 files to convert to pdf. But my pc has 128 MB Ram and there is not any other application running, so there is plenty of memory. 850 kb ps file can not be converted to pdf ? Could anyone help me, please ? Thank you, Maristela --------------------------------------------------------- Maristela Oura GE Yokogawa Medical Systems 4-7-127 Asahigaoka, Hino-shi Tokyo 191 - Japan Tel : 81-425-85-5067 Fax: 81-425-85-5150 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 8:49:05-GMT,1782;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08353 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:49:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA30640; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:46:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:43:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA30497; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:43:23 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:43:41 +0100 From: Roberto Beretta Subject: [PDF] Using Acrobat Distiller as NT service To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-id: <347549BD.A0497A52@cselt.it> Organization: CSELT Spa X-Envelope-to: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, we'd like to install Acrobat 3.0 Distiller module, as a permanent service to our end-users not confident with Adobe Technology. To use it on a Windows NT Server without the need to log-on we want to start Distiller as a NT service. Has anybody already experienced a way to do this ? We'll appreciate any kind of help. Roberto Beretta Document Management Systems CSELT SpA http://www.cselt.it/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 9:41:14-GMT,2346;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA09362 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:41:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA32215; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 03:38:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 03:35:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA32027; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 03:35:46 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:36:14 +0100 X-Sender: antonia@pop.inet.it Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: antonia@think.it (Antonia Rossetti) Subject: [PDF] Colors in a PDF from Mac to Windows Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi everybody, we are an Italian company that - among other things - conceives and designs professional Web sites, and we are obviously very keen on PDF. I am personally brand new in this list and maybe my question is naive or has already been answered way back in time (in this case, could someone please forward it to me...thanks in advance!) Sorry also if my language will sound rather imprecise from a technical point of view, but I am Italian and in many cases I find it difficult to find the English technical word for something I normally use in Italian. I have distilled a PostScript file (from Xpress) on Mac, which was then perfect on Mac - even dropping the number of colors from millions to 256; but when I passed the PDF file on to a Windows machine, only if I keep it at thousands colors it is still alright: but if I go down to 256, the text which is on the colored background will not be readable/visible enough anymore, and even the image itself has become poor quality. Hope I have been managed to be clear enough...thanks in advance. Ciao dall'Italia, Antonia +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 12:57:08-GMT,2448;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA12546 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 05:57:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA03883; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:53:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:48:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA03742; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:48:27 -0600 From: vhhuston@switch.com Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 7:48:49 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: re: [PDF] Error on distiller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I don't know what is wrong, but I have converted 120MB files (314 page catalog with tons of graphics) to PDF with no problem and many others of large size. Virgil ------------- Original Text From: Maristela Oura , on 11/21/97 5:32 PM: I am trying to convert a ps file to pdf but there is a error it might be because the size of ps file. For example : My document has 40 pages (ps file = 850 kb) and at page 30 it there is a error. I have to divide the file into 2 files to convert to pdf. But my pc has 128 MB Ram and there is not any other application running, so there is plenty of memory. 850 kb ps file can not be converted to pdf ? Could anyone help me, please ? Thank you, Maristela --------------------------------------------------------- Maristela Oura GE Yokogawa Medical Systems 4-7-127 Asahigaoka, Hino-shi Tokyo 191 - Japan Tel : 81-425-85-5067 Fax: 81-425-85-5150 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 14:05:00-GMT,1889;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13735 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:04:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA05972; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:59:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:56:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA05797; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:56:24 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:56:46 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Mornini Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 12:22 PM 11/20/97 -0700, you wrote: >You know very well from discussions on pdf-prepress-l that many, many, >many SBs and printers don't have or don't use in-rip sep capability. I think >they would give a big crap if they spent several hundred dollars for a >utility, expecting it to sends seps from a pdf to their older rips, when in >fact it won't. Ah! Understand your point here... I'll bet that Lantana would be cool about it, but you're right. I thought you were harping on the "lack" of host-based seps. My mistake, sorry for the heated post. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania -- Printing & Prepress +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 14:29:31-GMT,3169;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14260 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:29:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA07280; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:25:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:22:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA07159; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:22:33 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Hiatt, Mike" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Error on distiller Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:26:24 -0600 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I can tell you it isn't because of file size. I have a file that is 120+ pages full of tables that when printed to .ps is 1.38 MB and is distills just fine. I would look for some kind of formatting or type error on the page where the distiller hangs up. The error message from distiller will be a big clue to the problem you're having. Also, if you're splitting the file at the point where distilling fails and both new files distill okay, that also tells you there is something happening between those pages that throws distiller off. Knowing the error message will definitely give better clues to the cause of the problem. Mike Hiatt Intecom Inc. mhiatt@intecom.com > ---------- > From: Maristela Oura[SMTP:oura@id.geyms.med.ge.com] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 1997 2:32 AM > To: pdf@lists.emrg.com > Subject: [PDF] Error on distiller > > > I am trying to convert a ps file to pdf but there is a error it might > be > because the size of ps file. > For example : My document has 40 pages (ps file = 850 kb) and at page > 30 it > there is a error. > I have to divide the file into 2 files to convert to pdf. > But my pc has 128 MB Ram and there is not any other application > running, so > there is plenty of > memory. > 850 kb ps file can not be converted to pdf ? > Could anyone help me, please ? > Thank you, > Maristela > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Maristela Oura > GE Yokogawa Medical Systems > 4-7-127 Asahigaoka, Hino-shi > Tokyo 191 - Japan > Tel : 81-425-85-5067 > Fax: 81-425-85-5150 > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 16:33:07-GMT,3688;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17279 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:33:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA11365; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:29:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:20:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA10945; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:20:15 -0600 Date: 21 Nov 97 09:21:14 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.1r2 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1332018452-3396777@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I love a lively discussion and bear no ill feelings here, Tom and Michael. This is great stuff and allows everyone to become better educated, especially me who doesn't know it all by an long shot. mjahn wrote: >So enough on this already. CrakerJack permits you to color separate PDF >files. Buy it, it works perfectly. This is the same kind of statement that I responded to in the beginning of this thread. It states CJs *features* too broadly. I made the same mistake by stating it's *limitations* too broadly. Maybe I can offer the following that we can all agree on and is accurate information (with personal opinion thrown in of course): 1. If you have a Level 1 rip, CJ won't offer *any* kind of color separation. Don't buy it; what little extra functionality you get isn't worth what it costs. 2. If you have a PS3/Extreme rip (already), buy it, use it, love it. The cost of CJ probably wont make a dent in *your* budget. 3. If you have a Level 2 rip, the water becomes muddy here, because not all L2 rips include the same feature set, namely in-rip seps. If you have in-rip seps, you can take full advantage of all of CJs features; buy it, love it. If you don't have in-rip seps (which I believe is more common), you're limited in how that pdf can be separated. For example (as I understand it), RBG images and non-CMYK spot colors (including RGB, Pantone, etc.) will *not* process separate. For pdf files created by a seasoned prepresser, this is not a big deal. But for customer supplied pdfs (Oh, those *customer* files!), these limitations may make CJ less than useful. It's far easier to output *corrected* customer files in the page layout app.(plus you can take advantage of app. level trapping, which CJ won't do). The other major problem, which *I don't know* if CJ corrects is the problem of black not overprinting. Honestly, I don't have a problem with Lantana or CJ. It's just that CJ always seems to be promoted as the magic bullet that will *now* allow shops to accept pdfs from their customers. For many shops that's just not true, and for many others it's only true with big caveats. I just want people to become informed buyers of such an expensive plug-in. Cheers to all! Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 17:02:58-GMT,3575;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18217 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:02:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12903; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:59:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:55:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12772; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:55:20 -0600 Message-ID: <3475C02E.52DC145D@glyphica.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:09:02 -0800 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <1332018452-3396777@mail.inpractice.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For what it's worth, the November issue of PurePDF is focused on PDF in prepress ... Lantana as well as Agfa, Harlequin, Helios, and Scitex all speak up on the topic of PDF in prepress workflows. (http://www.purepdf.com) -Deidre Paknad ............................................................................ Glyphica Acrobat & Web Publishing Services http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purepdf.com ............................................................................ > > > 1. If you have a Level 1 rip, CJ won't offer *any* kind of color > separation. Don't buy it; what little extra functionality you get > isn't worth what > it costs. > > 2. If you have a PS3/Extreme rip (already), buy it, use it, love it. > The > cost of CJ probably wont make a dent in *your* budget. > > 3. If you have a Level 2 rip, the water becomes muddy here, because > not > all L2 rips include the same feature set, namely in-rip seps. If you > have > in-rip seps, you can take full advantage of all of CJs features; buy > it, > love it. > > If you don't have in-rip seps (which I believe is more common), you're > > limited in how that pdf can be separated. For example (as I understand > it), > RBG images and non-CMYK spot colors (including RGB, Pantone, etc.) > will > *not* process separate. > > For pdf files created by a seasoned prepresser, this is not a big > deal. > But for customer supplied pdfs (Oh, those *customer* files!), these > limitations may make CJ less than useful. It's far easier to output > *corrected* > customer files in the page layout app.(plus you can take advantage of > app. > level trapping, which CJ won't do). The other major problem, which *I > don't know* if CJ corrects is the problem of black not overprinting. > > Honestly, I don't have a problem with Lantana or CJ. It's just that CJ > > always seems to be promoted as the magic bullet that will *now* allow > shops > to accept pdfs from their customers. For many shops that's just not > true, > and for many others it's only true with big caveats. I just want > people to > become informed buyers of such an expensive plug-in. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 17:18:49-GMT,2582;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18581 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:18:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA13746; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:16:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:11:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13513; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:11:55 -0600 Message-ID: <3475C0EA.DEFD74EB@beacon.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:12:10 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files References: <1332018452-3396777@mail.inpractice.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > 1. If you have a Level 1 rip, CJ won't offer *any* kind of color > separation. Don't buy it; what little extra functionality you get > isn't worth what it costs. I'm trying to follow this thread, but the two (or more?) of you seem to be contradicting each other. Michael Jahn said that CrackerJack can write out seps (i.e. single-color plates). I take it this is true; why would he lie? If the sep that it writes out, however, is merely a composite that has level 2 in-rip sep capability written into it, i.e., this file is not a sep as you would expect from Illustrator, but does indeed give the same effect as that on a level 2 rip with in-rip sep support, then can somebody just *say* that? In different words, I am hoping Michael can explain exactly *what* these plates are that CrackerJack can allegedly write out. According to Dennis, if I send one to a level 1 rip, I will get either crap or a composite. According to Michael, I will get a plate. Which is it? It can be only one, assuming the PostScript was created validly. Sorry if I have confused this further; this really is an honest attempt to understand the conversation thus far. 8^) Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 17:53:58-GMT,3726;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19469 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:53:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA15255; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:51:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:45:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15028; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:45:45 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971121174512.00a4e590@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:45:12 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files In-Reply-To: <199711211620.KAA10962@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:18:20 -0800, Tom Mornini said >> what's an in-rip seps? > >PostScript Level 2 has the ability to print separations from color PS files. > >The separations typically printed out of Quark, PageMaker, CorelDraw, etc are >actually sent as 4 black and white pages to the RIP, with the separations >performed on the host. > >in-RIP separation allows a single color page to be sent to the RIP, and >several pieces of film to be generated at the RIP. > >> how it different than separated 4C? > >Good question. Adobe has indicated that results are not identical to host >separations in all circumstances. That should be obvious, given the very >different methods of separation and handling, but it is a little disturbing >none-the-less. Results on Adobe RIPs are not identical because Adobe's definition of in-RIP separation in Level 2 does not allow for overprinting of process colour objects (see Adobe tech note 5044 - it's not in the Red Book). This is in contrast to the way most design and separation applications, including Adobe Separator, work, where channels in process colours which have a colour component of zero do not knock out of previous objects on those channels if overprinting is set to true. We at Harlequin have always thought that approach was daft. In fact we originally thought the spec was a documentors error, but it isn't. The default settings on a Harlequin RIP performing in-RIP separations *do* allow process colours to overprint each other, and our tests have shown that separated output from Harlequin RIPs match output separated by all of the major front-end applications, except where a white object is defined as 0% C, 0% M, 0% Y and 0% K, and is also set to overprint. Some front-end separation applications ignore overprint when a white object is printed (meaning that it will knock out of objects behind it). Others (and the Harlequin RIP) will act on the overprint setting and the white object will completely disappear. Which is right? I suspect that one's a religious question, (but my personal view is that setting a white object to overprint is daft!). Of course, if you want to be fully Adobe compatible and disable process colour overprinting then there's a switch to do so. Regards Martin Bailey Harlequin Ltd +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 17:54:41-GMT,2816;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19487 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:54:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA15258; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:51:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:46:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15079; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:46:50 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:48:36 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: philvert@eos.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: paul hilvert Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aaron, >From Lantana you can receive the plug-in Crackerjack for Exchange. Then you use File-Crackerjack instead of File-Print and you can print separations to a high-res PostScript 2 RIP. Paul Hilvert, berman printing >OK, I have looked in various sources for this info, and I haven't found it. >Since it seems like other people have referred to it, I assume it can be >done, and fairly easily: > >I work in a prepress/desktop publishing environment, and we have a >Linotronic that we send files to, both paper and film. We generally output >from the main DP programs (Quark/PageMaker), or from pre-PostScripted files. > >Is there a way to print actual color separations from a PDF file? I don't >see the option from the Adobe Reader. Is there another program to use? > > > >Aaron Borovoy >UCSD Publications Office (Prepress) >University of California, San Diego >aborovoy@ucsd.edu > >(619) 534-6840 (voice) (619) 534-0866 (FAX) > > >*** I support domestic partnership benefits for University of California >faculty, staff, and employees. If you do also, please show your support by >adding this block of text to the bottom of your standard email signature. >*** > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 18:02:11-GMT,3231;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19679 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:02:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA15595; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:59:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:55:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15413; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:55:34 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:57:24 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: philvert@eos.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1332093946-9084267@mail.inpractice.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: paul hilvert Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Tom and Dennis, >From a real production standpoint, to me one also has to be aware that you may be able to output separations (i know, i know, output a request for the RIP to separation!) on a high resolution device and NOT be able to provide laser proofs to reassure yourself that things will separate correctly before you use film. Our standard practice is to always output separated lasers for evaluation before outputting film so Crackerjack could cause a production workflow change that is unacceptable . . . now that we have output film, let's see if it's okay!!!??? Paul Hilvert Tom Mornini wrote: >> >>While I agree with you technically, I don't think most people really >give >>a crap about how it does what it does. CrackerJack is definitely one >tool >>that people need if they need to output seps of PDF files on a regular >>basis. >> >>-- Tom Mornini >>-- InfoMania > >Tom, > >You know very well from discussions on pdf-prepress-l that many, many, >many SBs and printers don't have or don't use in-rip sep capability. I think >they would give a big crap if they spent several hundred dollars for a >utility, expecting it to sends seps from a pdf to their older rips, when in >fact it won't. > >I agree that if you've got the cool hardware, CrackerJack is a must have. >But the misconception about it printing seps itself is a big one, because >a lot of people could get burned on their purchase. > >Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net >EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice >InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 19:21:40-GMT,2194;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21741 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:21:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA18791; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:18:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:13:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA18443; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:13:00 -0600 Date: 21 Nov 97 12:13:51 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.1r2 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1332008094-4020267@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory Snavely wrote: >I'm trying to follow this thread, but the two (or more?) of you seem to be >contradicting each other. > >Michael Jahn said that CrackerJack can write out seps (i.e. single-color >plates). I take it this is true; why would he lie? > >Sorry if I have confused this further; this really is an honest attempt to >understand the conversation thus far. 8^) You're right, this is confusing. Maybe this will work better: CJ will print plates to L2 rips (even L2 rips without in-rip sep), but these same plates are not supported by L1 rips. And the limitations of CJ with a L2 rip without in-rip seps are related to forced process separation of non-CMYK colors. Whew! Is everyone still having fun? Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 20:36:02-GMT,2465;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23487 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:36:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA21004; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:32:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:26:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20838; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:26:45 -0600 From: Don_P_Wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:22:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta 3) To: David Tamburello Cc: acroicon@adobe.com, pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <9710218801.AA880143939@FINSMTP1.FIN.GOV.BC.CA> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David: >It should be for Windows 3.0, 3.1, and 3.11. Win 95 begins the 4.x >numbering scheme. Apologies if this does does not address your question >properly. But, double-check the subject line from the original post: Subject: [PDF] Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta 3) Word 97, to the best of my knowledge, can NOT run under Win 3.x. So, there's something funky in either the post's subject line referring to Word 97, or in Adobe placing the zip file within a subdirectory labelled /win/3.x. ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/3.x/beta/pdfmaker.zip ____________________________________________________________ Don Wilkes, Type & Graphics : Location: BC Stats : 553 Superior Street PO Box 9410 Stn Prov Govt : Victoria, B.C. Victoria, BC Canada V8W 9V1 :_____________________ Tel: (250) 356-8854 Fax: (250) 387-0329 E-Mail: don_p_wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca Visit BC Stats on the Web at http://www.bcstats.gov.bc.ca ____________________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 20:43:35-GMT,1760;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23667 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:43:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA21294; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:40:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:36:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21146; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:36:01 -0600 Message-ID: <9132A5EB24A6D0118DEC00AA00DC15986E64B1@FLWPBPEX01> From: "Biederman, K.A." To: "'PDF List Address'" Subject: [PDF] Fuzzy Fonts on screen Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:38:07 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all- I'm not new to PDF, but I am new to Adobe Exchange. The problem I'm having is that my fonts all look fuzzy on screen. They look OK in print, but the online stuff is really bothering me. I think there should be some options in Distiller, but I'm not sure which ones to mess with. Can anyone help? Sorry if this is something that's been beaten to death. I don't have convenient web access at work to search the archives. TIA. -Kerry +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 21:10:22-GMT,2729;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24260 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:10:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22134; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:02:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:58:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21890; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:58:27 -0600 Message-Id: <199711212058.PAA24726@dax.cc.uakron.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "D.P.Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:58:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Fuzzy Fonts on screen In-reply-to: <9132A5EB24A6D0118DEC00AA00DC15986E64B1@FLWPBPEX01> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 21 Nov 97 at 15:38, Biederman, K.A. wrote: > > Hi all- > > I'm not new to PDF, but I am new to Adobe Exchange. The problem I'm > having is that my fonts all look fuzzy on screen. They look OK in print, but > the online stuff is really bothering me. I think there should be some > options in Distiller, but I'm not sure which ones to mess with. Can anyone > help? Sorry if this is something that's been beaten to death. I don't have > convenient web access at work to search the archives. TIA. > > -Kerry Are you using TeX? Perhaps you are using pk-fonts (Adobe Type 3). If yes, you need to use Type 1 fonts. See the white paper: Creating quality Adobe PDF files from TeX with DVIPS by Kendall Whitehouse/EMERGE http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/385e.htm This is one of the common problems TeX users have. In absence of any additional information...that's all. dps D. P. Story Department of Mathematical Sciences The University of Akron Akron, OH 44325 e-mail: dpstory@uakron.edu telephone: (330) 972-7514 e-Calculus: Calculus I tutorial on the Web. Written in TeX and converted to PDF http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html And, ... An Algebra Review on 10 Lessons TeX to PDF http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 21:10:51-GMT,2989;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24269 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:10:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22285; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:04:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:00:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22020; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:00:54 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:00:24 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <199711211600_MC2-2915-9DC1@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA22017 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Michael Jahn said that CrackerJack can write out seps (i.e. single-color >plates). I take it this is true; why would he lie? > >If the sep that it writes out, however, is merely a composite that has >level 2 >in-rip sep capability written into it, i.e., this file is not a sep as you >would >expect from Illustrator, but does indeed give the same effect as that on a >level >2 rip with in-rip sep support, then can somebody just *say* that? At Seybold SF in October I was told by the guys from Lantane themselves that: - CrackerJack only is able to create separations by turning some RIPs in-RIP separation on - (how?) many Level 2 RIPs for imagesetters support in-RIP separation - practically no Level 2 RIP for any other output device supports in-RIP separation (e.g. laser printers, color proofers, Distiller,...) - when sending a single plate, it is sending a composite with respective in-RIP separation instructions Easy way to check yourself: Create a single plate PostScript file from CrackerJack (download a demo from www.lantanarips.com) and feed it into Distiller - what do you get? What would you expect? Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 21:21:58-GMT,3205;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24585 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:21:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22771; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:13:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:09:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22510; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:09:07 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19971121125557.0152cde0@mail-345> X-Sender: acroicon@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:55:57 -0800 To: Don_P_Wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca, David Tamburello From: Internet Products Division Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PDF] Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta 3) Cc: acroicon@Adobe.COM, pdf@lists.emrg.com In-Reply-To: <9710218801.AA880143939@FINSMTP1.FIN.GOV.BC.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For the record, the email concerning the PDF Maker beta 3 was a misfired email, that went out when an error caused the mail server to send out several very old messages. The PDF Maker is currently in beta 4 stage. We apoligize for any confusion this may have caused. To resolve the directory name issue: the 3.x refers to the Acrobat Version number. At 12:22 PM 11/21/97 -0800, Don_P_Wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca wrote: >David: > > >It should be for Windows 3.0, 3.1, and 3.11. Win 95 begins the 4.x > >numbering scheme. Apologies if this does does not address your question > >properly. > >But, double-check the subject line from the original post: > > > Subject: [PDF] Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta 3) > >Word 97, to the best of my knowledge, can NOT run under Win 3.x. > >So, there's something funky in either the post's subject line referring to >Word 97, or in Adobe placing the zip file within a subdirectory labelled >/win/3.x. > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/3.x/beta/pdfmaker.zip > > > >____________________________________________________________ > Don Wilkes, Type & Graphics : Location: > BC Stats : 553 Superior Street > PO Box 9410 Stn Prov Govt : Victoria, B.C. > Victoria, BC Canada V8W 9V1 :_____________________ > > Tel: (250) 356-8854 Fax: (250) 387-0329 > E-Mail: don_p_wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca > Visit BC Stats on the Web at http://www.bcstats.gov.bc.ca >____________________________________________________________ > > > Adobe Systems, Inc. 345 Park Avenue San Jose, CA 95110-2704 408.536.6000 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 17:11:34-GMT,2006;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18447 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:11:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA13355; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:09:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:05:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13135; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:05:05 -0600 From: Don_P_Wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:02:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [PDF] Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta 3) To: PDF-L@emrg.com, acroicon@adobe.com Message-id: <9710218801.AA880131812@FINSMTP1.FIN.GOV.BC.CA> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/3.x/beta/pdfmaker.zip The "3.x" in the above ftp address gives me slight pause; is this product intended for the Win 3.1 platform, the Win95 platform, or both?? ____________________________________________________________ Don Wilkes, Type & Graphics : Location: BC Stats : 553 Superior Street PO Box 9410 Stn Prov Govt : Victoria, B.C. Victoria, BC Canada V8W 9V1 :_____________________ Tel: (250) 356-8854 Fax: (250) 387-0329 E-Mail: don_p_wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca Visit BC Stats on the Web at http://www.bcstats.gov.bc.ca ____________________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Nov-1997 21:47:52-GMT,1511;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25289 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:47:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA24064; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:44:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:38:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23728; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:38:55 -0600 From: Don_P_Wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:36:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re[4]: [PDF] Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta To: davet@digidox.com, Internet Products Division Cc: acroicon@Adobe.COM, pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <9710218801.AA880148271@FINSMTP1.FIN.GOV.BC.CA> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >To resolve the directory name issue: >the 3.x refers to the Acrobat Version number. Ah... Thanks very much for clearing all that up. Cheers, \don_p_wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Nov-1997 18:29:26-GMT,1582;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA09946 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 02:05:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA07825; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 03:02:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 22 Nov 1997 02:57:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA07662; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 02:57:24 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:54:58 +0000 Message-ID: <0003BB9E.3463@pcmaileu.euro.ml.com> From: Trevor_Anderson@pcmaileu.euro.ml.com (Trevor Anderson) Subject: [PDF] PDF Append To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are using PDF writer to automatically generate PDF files. We now need to AUTOMATICALLY append combinations of these files together as a single file. Is this possible? If so how would we go about doing this? Trevor Anderson (Merrill Lynch International) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Nov-1997 18:29:32-GMT,1835;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28320 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 07:01:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA14005; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 07:58:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 22 Nov 1997 07:52:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13679; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 07:52:34 -0600 Message-Id: <9711211852.AC27643@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Acrobat Distiller as NT service Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 13:56:45 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >we'd like to install Acrobat 3.0 Distiller module, as a permanent >service to our end-users not >confident with Adobe Technology. >To use it on a Windows NT Server without the need to log-on we want to >start Distiller as a NT service. >Has anybody already experienced a way to do this ? >We'll appreciate any kind of help. You could set up a modem that delivered to a Watched folder by Distiller (for small files) or 4-Sight iSDN Manager (for larger files) and the customer could drop off the files into specifc watched folders that each had their own settings. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Nov-1997 18:30:20-GMT,4845;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28335 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 07:01:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA14006; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 07:58:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 22 Nov 1997 07:52:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13658; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 07:52:31 -0600 Message-Id: <9711211852.AB27643@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Misc Problems related to PDF and fonts Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 13:56:33 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jean-Luc, >The PDF production planned method is the following (the one that gave the >most reliable results). There are a few things missing from your description below which would help some of us diagnose what is actually "broken" here...it is clear that your set-up is giving you unreliable results...and I will make two comments immediately. 1. True Type is a disater. Eliminate it. 2. Remove SuperATM.db (it will interfere with Distiller when you try and embed fonts) If you make your production environment have ONLY Type 1 only, you will exeprience much more success. Nearly every one of your disaster filled email examples relates to having two things wrong...Font susitution via Multiple Masters and TrueType. Professional drivers use professional gear. Use the real thing. If you eliminate this completely, many of these problems disappear immediately. This may seem to be both unreasonable and a monumental task, but TRUST ME ON THIS ONE...it gets worse down stream when we are doing things like OPI and pagination. True Type may have advantages of being small and other quality issues, but simply destroy so many PostScript workflows. The world is populated with output devices that use PostScript Interpreters with embeded Adobe Type one fonts. So... If you use Adobe Type One formatted fonts with ATM (Adobe Type Manager) and Adobe Distiller to create Adobe PDF files and view them Adobe Reader or modify your PDF files with Adobe Exchange...(get the pattern here?) *smile* you will experience reliability. >0. Windows 95 PCs (Pentium 166 - 32 MB RAM). >1. Use ATM 3.02 (reliable screening of printouts with T1 fonts) In the ATM dialog box MAKE SURE font subsitution is OFF. >2. Print the Word Processor files to a PostScript file. > Driver: Adobe PS 4.11 > Font options: > - use the fonts substitution table No. Do NOT use the subsitution table. My advice may seem strict and dogmatic, but if you want reliability, well, this is the opposite of subsituting the real thing with some "attempt at simulation". > (there is a nearly no difference in glyphs and the produced PDF >files are small with string indexing and searching) Nearly no difference? Try a font like Script. > - Send other TT fonts as outlines (those strings won't be >searchable) Again, this is a very good reason to eliminate it altogether...what good will it do if you need to spell check, update a price or a date or a phone number if the string cant be found because it is not a string, but an outline (or a bunch of shapes that look like a word)?? > - Threshold to switch: 1 pixel > - Do NOT favor TT fonts with same name > PostScript options: > - Optimise for speed > - Pure binary data >3. Distill the PS files to PDF with Distiller 3.01. > Acrobat 3.0 (PDF1.2) format. > Font options: > - Embed all fonts > - Subset fonts below 99% (no chance of mixups with local systems). Other thoughts: 1. In the Distiller Font folder, I besides throwing out the superatm.db file, I throw out AdobeSanMM font and AdobeSerMM. 2. Although it may sound like I work for or worked for Adobe, I do not...but you are expecting alot of functionality from a free application (Reader) and non-postscript devices. If the service you are providing is worthwile and provides functinality, buy Exchange so you can buy plig-ins that provide some of the services you require like a watched folder that automatically prints the PDF file to the selected printer. Good luck. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Nov-1997 18:54:25-GMT,2176;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (root@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01232 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:54:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA18669; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:27:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:21:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18452; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:20:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199711221621.RAA00082@mb05.swip.net> From: "Ulf" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Append Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:23:07 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have don it with an access apl. It is all described in the API. Regards Ulf ---------- > From: Trevor Anderson > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF Append > Date: den 22 november 1997 10.54 > > > We are using PDF writer to automatically generate PDF files. We now > need to AUTOMATICALLY append combinations of these files together as a > single file. Is this possible? If so how would we go about doing > this? > > Trevor Anderson (Merrill Lynch International) > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Nov-1997 6:56:57-GMT,1641;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23389 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 23:56:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA07864; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:53:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:47:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA07458; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:46:59 -0600 Message-Id: <9711230335.AC13021@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Date: Sat, 22 Nov 97 22:40:13 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Easy way to check yourself: Create a single plate PostScript file from >CrackerJack (download a demo from www.lantanarips.com) and feed it into >Distiller - what do you get? What would you expect? I get a plate. Just what I expected. Am I on drugs here, or is everyone who is commenting not in possession of the product, and all going with "this guy told me"... +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Nov-1997 6:57:12-GMT,1939;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23394 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 23:57:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA07863; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:53:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:46:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA07419; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:46:55 -0600 Message-Id: <9711230335.AC13021@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Date: Sat, 22 Nov 97 22:40:17 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory, >In different words, I am hoping Michael can explain exactly *what* these >plates >are that CrackerJack can allegedly write out. According to Dennis, if I send >one to a level 1 rip, I will get either crap or a composite. According to >Michael, I will get a plate. Which is it? It can be only one, assuming the >PostScript was created validly. > >Sorry if I have confused this further; this really is an honest attempt to >understand the conversation thus far. 8^) Dennis was confused. CrakerJack does make plates. It behaves in some ways identical to the separation tools that you find in Quark XPress Print dialog box, and in some ways, even better. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Nov-1997 12:51:59-GMT,4754;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28950 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 05:51:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA16004; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 06:48:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 23 Nov 1997 06:42:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA15772; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 06:42:03 -0600 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 07:41:55 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <199711230741_MC2-294F-2055@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA15769 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 As I was potentially adding to the confusion I'd like to indicate how arrived at my conclusions (re-did it this morning, so for now I'd exclude I got the setup wrong): - I took a PDF file that contains an RGB-image, an CMYK-image, black text - opened it in Acrobat EXchange 3.01/Mac - set up CrackerJack 1.01 DEMO (15 August 1997) with the following parameters: --- PPD: Distiller 3.0 PPD --- print to file as PostScript file (that is, not EPS) --- Resolution 2400 dpi --- turn reg-marks and color bar on --- Separations (that is, not Composite) --- Screen, intent & UCR: Printer --- Frequency/andle/spot: 175/15.0/Ellipse --- requested plate: Cyan - feed the resulting PostScript file into Distiller 3.01/mac-PPC (pre-press style set-up) - open file in Acrobat Exchange =>> result: composite file with perfect reg-marks and color bar (that is, though: not the single Cyan plate). I would love to be proven wrong (because I would immediately recommend to all my customers - who are extremely hungry for a print separations-plug-in that works in their today's workflow - to buy CrackerJack) and learn what I am missing. Olaf Druemmer PS In order to be fair: My point of view may be seriously biased because my company - callas software - is developing plug-ins in a similar area, and may release a gap bridging thing some time in the future. I nevertheless try to be as clear concise and objective as possible. I also try to respect other plug-in developers' achievements. And finally I believe, that there wil be enough space in the market for several of similar plug-ins, each hopefully with its respective strengths. I have learned from the past years that competition is not only good for the customer, but for the whole market, because competition speeds up the whole market, which in turn gives developers better return on investment in the long run. Sorry for this lengthy remark. > > >Cory, > >>In different words, I am hoping Michael can explain exactly *what* these >>plates >>are that CrackerJack can allegedly write out. According to Dennis, if I send >>one to a level 1 rip, I will get either crap or a composite. According to >>Michael, I will get a plate. Which is it? It can be only one, assuming the >>PostScript was created validly. >> >>Sorry if I have confused this further; this really is an honest attempt to >>understand the conversation thus far. 8^) > >Dennis was confused. CrakerJack does make plates. It behaves in some ways >identical to the separation tools that you find in Quark XPress Print >dialog box, and in some ways, even better. >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Nov-1997 18:00:26-GMT,1674;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03945 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:00:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23432; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:57:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:48:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA23190; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:48:32 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971121182002.00955a20@stcinet.statcan.ca> X-Sender: patrcha@stcinet.statcan.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:20:02 -0500 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: "Charles A. Patrick" Subject: [PDF] Suspending Mail In-Reply-To: <01BCC84B.994D1780.quite@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Could someone kindly send me the instructions that tell me what message I need to send to suspend mail and to which address? Thanks. Charles A. Patrick International and Professional Relations Division Statistics Canada 25-H R.H. Coats Building Tunney's Pasture Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 0:34:07-GMT,1844;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10472 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:34:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA00900; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:29:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:24:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00595; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:24:19 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF86F.40813880.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Fuzzy Fonts on screen Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 23:58:39 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Perhaps this is the "Smooth fonts" option in General Preferences, also known as "Antialiasing". Lots of people like it. Aandi On Friday, 21 November, 1997 20:38, Biederman, K.A. [SMTP:KBiederman@ocwen.com] wrote: > > Hi all- > > I'm not new to PDF, but I am new to Adobe Exchange. The problem I'm > having is that my fonts all look fuzzy on screen. They look OK in print, > but the online stuff is really bothering me. I think there should be > some options in Distiller, but I'm not sure which ones to mess with. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 0:34:07-GMT,2597;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10476 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:34:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA00899; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:29:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:24:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00636; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:24:29 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF86F.43E87F60.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Error on distiller Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 00:04:14 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 "Error" is not really enough information to make any suggestion. But read the page on PostScript errors at http://www.quite.com/ps/errors.htm and see if it helps you. Aandi On Friday, 21 November, 1997 08:33, Maristela Oura [SMTP:oura@id.geyms.med.ge.com] wrote: > > I am trying to convert a ps file to pdf but there is a error it might be > because the size of ps file. > For example : My document has 40 pages (ps file = 850 kb) and at page 30 it > there is a error. > I have to divide the file into 2 files to convert to pdf. > But my pc has 128 MB Ram and there is not any other application running, so > there is plenty of > memory. > 850 kb ps file can not be converted to pdf ? > Could anyone help me, please ? > Thank you, > Maristela > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Maristela Oura > GE Yokogawa Medical Systems > 4-7-127 Asahigaoka, Hino-shi > Tokyo 191 - Japan > Tel : 81-425-85-5067 > Fax: 81-425-85-5150 > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 1:46:25-GMT,2757;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11632 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:46:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA03211; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 19:42:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 23 Nov 1997 19:37:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02992; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 19:37:31 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971124013833.00931dec@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:38:33 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Acrobat Distiller as NT service Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA02989 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The NT Resource Kit comes with a tool, whose README says: "This file describes the SRVANY.EXE utility. This utility allows running Windows NT™ applications as services. The benefits include: - allow apps to survive logoff/logon sequences, hence saving the overhead of re-starting them for each new user - allow server apps to come-up and service requests even when no user is logged-on - allow apps to run and perform a task in a specific logon account, different from the currently logged-on user" This utility should do the job for you. Tom Thiersch At 09:43 AM 11/21/97 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi, >we'd like to install Acrobat 3.0 Distiller module, as a permanent >service to our end-users not >confident with Adobe Technology. >To use it on a Windows NT Server without the need to log-on we want to >start Distiller as a NT service. >Has anybody already experienced a way to do this ? >We'll appreciate any kind of help. > >Roberto Beretta >Document Management Systems >CSELT SpA >http://www.cselt.it/ > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 8:15:55-GMT,1471;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18506 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:15:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA12426; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:12:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:07:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA12097; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:07:00 -0600 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 8:49:44 MEZ Message-Id: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Christian Stoeckel" Subject: [PDF] Plug-in for multiple PDF-prints with Acrobat Reader X-Incognito-SN: 1236 X-Incognito-Format: VERSION=2.01a ENCRYPTED=NO Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 BeyondMail Form: Zimmer Memo Text: Hi, like Greg two weeks ago, I'm looking for a plug-in or a Windows tool to select and print multiple PDF files with Acrobat Reader. Who knows a solution? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 8:16:13-GMT,1497;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18521 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:16:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA12493; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:13:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:10:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA12281; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:10:50 -0600 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 9:08:16 MEZ Message-Id: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Christian Stoeckel" Subject: [PDF] Plug-in for multiple PDF-prints with Acrobat Reader X-Incognito-SN: 1236 X-Incognito-Format: VERSION=2.01a ENCRYPTED=NO Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 BeyondMail Form: Zimmer Memo Text: Hi, like Greg two weeks ago, I'm looking for a plug-in or a Windows tool to select and print multiple PDF files with Acrobat Reader. Who knows a solution? Thanks for help Christian +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 9:23:57-GMT,3037;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19616 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:23:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA14589; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:21:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:18:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA14412; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:18:20 -0600 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:20:03 +0000 (GMT) From: "Edward M. Bradburn" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Error on distiller In-Reply-To: <1331988943-83716104@id.geyms.med.ge.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Maristela, If it is any help, I doubt your file size is the issue. On my 64MB PC, I can quite happily PDF PostScript files in excess of 32MB. As such, slightly larger than 850K!! If you know exactly which page is throwing up the error, then check for oddities on that page in whatever application you use for making your postscript file (Quark, PageMaker, etc.) Hope this helps, Ed Bradburn On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Maristela Oura wrote: > > I am trying to convert a ps file to pdf but there is a error it might be > because the size of ps file. > For example : My document has 40 pages (ps file = 850 kb) and at page 30 it > there is a error. > I have to divide the file into 2 files to convert to pdf. > But my pc has 128 MB Ram and there is not any other application running, so > there is plenty of > memory. > 850 kb ps file can not be converted to pdf ? > Could anyone help me, please ? > Thank you, > Maristela > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Maristela Oura > GE Yokogawa Medical Systems > 4-7-127 Asahigaoka, Hino-shi > Tokyo 191 - Japan > Tel : 81-425-85-5067 > Fax: 81-425-85-5150 > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ **************************************** Edward M. Bradburn DTP & Production Centre for Continuing Education University of Bath BATH BA2 7AY Tel: (+44) 01225 323864 **************************************** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 9:23:59-GMT,3037;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19620 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:23:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA14588; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:21:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:18:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA14414; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:18:21 -0600 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:20:03 +0000 (GMT) From: "Edward M. Bradburn" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Error on distiller In-Reply-To: <1331988943-83716104@id.geyms.med.ge.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Maristela, If it is any help, I doubt your file size is the issue. On my 64MB PC, I can quite happily PDF PostScript files in excess of 32MB. As such, slightly larger than 850K!! If you know exactly which page is throwing up the error, then check for oddities on that page in whatever application you use for making your postscript file (Quark, PageMaker, etc.) Hope this helps, Ed Bradburn On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Maristela Oura wrote: > > I am trying to convert a ps file to pdf but there is a error it might be > because the size of ps file. > For example : My document has 40 pages (ps file = 850 kb) and at page 30 it > there is a error. > I have to divide the file into 2 files to convert to pdf. > But my pc has 128 MB Ram and there is not any other application running, so > there is plenty of > memory. > 850 kb ps file can not be converted to pdf ? > Could anyone help me, please ? > Thank you, > Maristela > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Maristela Oura > GE Yokogawa Medical Systems > 4-7-127 Asahigaoka, Hino-shi > Tokyo 191 - Japan > Tel : 81-425-85-5067 > Fax: 81-425-85-5150 > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ **************************************** Edward M. Bradburn DTP & Production Centre for Continuing Education University of Bath BATH BA2 7AY Tel: (+44) 01225 323864 **************************************** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 9:29:55-GMT,2929;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19728 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:29:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA14787; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:24:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:22:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA14654; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:22:12 -0600 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:23:53 +0000 (GMT) From: "Edward M. Bradburn" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: PDF-L@emrg.com, acroicon@adobe.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta 3) In-Reply-To: <9710218801.AA880131812@FINSMTP1.FIN.GOV.BC.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Don It's referring to the version number of Acrobat. I downloaded it and it is Win95-native. Regards Ed Bradburn On Fri, 21 Nov 1997 Don_P_Wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca wrote: > > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/3.x/beta/pdfmaker.zip > > > The "3.x" in the above ftp address gives me slight pause; is this > product intended for the Win 3.1 platform, the Win95 platform, or > both?? > > ____________________________________________________________ > Don Wilkes, Type & Graphics : Location: > BC Stats : 553 Superior Street > PO Box 9410 Stn Prov Govt : Victoria, B.C. > Victoria, BC Canada V8W 9V1 :_____________________ > > Tel: (250) 356-8854 Fax: (250) 387-0329 > E-Mail: don_p_wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca > Visit BC Stats on the Web at http://www.bcstats.gov.bc.ca > ____________________________________________________________ > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ **************************************** Edward M. Bradburn DTP & Production Centre for Continuing Education University of Bath BATH BA2 7AY Tel: (+44) 01225 323864 **************************************** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 9:29:56-GMT,2929;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19729 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:29:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA14786; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:24:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:22:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA14650; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:22:11 -0600 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:23:53 +0000 (GMT) From: "Edward M. Bradburn" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: PDF-L@emrg.com, acroicon@adobe.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe PDFMaker for Microsoft Word 97 (Beta 3) In-Reply-To: <9710218801.AA880131812@FINSMTP1.FIN.GOV.BC.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Don It's referring to the version number of Acrobat. I downloaded it and it is Win95-native. Regards Ed Bradburn On Fri, 21 Nov 1997 Don_P_Wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca wrote: > > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/3.x/beta/pdfmaker.zip > > > The "3.x" in the above ftp address gives me slight pause; is this > product intended for the Win 3.1 platform, the Win95 platform, or > both?? > > ____________________________________________________________ > Don Wilkes, Type & Graphics : Location: > BC Stats : 553 Superior Street > PO Box 9410 Stn Prov Govt : Victoria, B.C. > Victoria, BC Canada V8W 9V1 :_____________________ > > Tel: (250) 356-8854 Fax: (250) 387-0329 > E-Mail: don_p_wilkes@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca > Visit BC Stats on the Web at http://www.bcstats.gov.bc.ca > ____________________________________________________________ > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ **************************************** Edward M. Bradburn DTP & Production Centre for Continuing Education University of Bath BATH BA2 7AY Tel: (+44) 01225 323864 **************************************** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 10:56:07-GMT,6140;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21217 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:56:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA17241; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:53:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:49:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA17074; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:49:42 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF8C6.C08843A0@Rockhse2.docctrl.com> From: Dave Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Append Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:19:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCF8C6.C08843A0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCF8C6.C08843A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our PDFfusion product will enable you to do this. Please check out our web site: www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: Trevor Anderson [SMTP:Trevor_Anderson@pcmaileu.euro.ml.com] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 1997 9:55 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Append We are using PDF writer to automatically generate PDF files. We now need to AUTOMATICALLY append combinations of these files together as a single file. Is this possible? If so how would we go about doing this? 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Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:59:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA17432; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:57:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:54:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA17269; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:54:31 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF8C7.4BBD2A80.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:52:36 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ah, see - I go away for a couple of days and look what happens. I miss a really interesting argument. Aha! I thought. I have been missing something. I too believed that Crackerjack only switched on in-RIP separation. So I tried your suggestion. Nevertheless, what I received was a composite colour file which, sent to a level 2 printer which does NOT support in-RIP separation, produced composite pages. It includes this PostScript snippet (skip this, gentle reader, if you don't understand PostScript): PDFVars/TermAll get exec end end { AGFADict /SetFilterOn known} stopped not { {false AGFADict /SetFilterOn get exec}if } if << /PageSize [1440 1080] statusdict /setpageparams known not {/Policies <>}if /HWResolution [600 600] /Separations true /ProcessColorModel /DeviceCMYK /SeparationColorNames [ /Cyan /Magenta /Yellow /Black ] /SeparationOrder [ /Cyan /Magenta /Yellow /Black ] /MirrorPrint false /NegativePrint false >> setpagedevice This is interesting because perhaps it does something different on Agfa RIPs (would anyone like to say what SetFilterOn in AGFADict does?) But the code there is the standard way to request in-RIP separations. I think one of the following may be happening: 1. The demo version does not behave as you describe, but the full version does. 2. It did not produce separations because I used Save rather than Print (which would not be useful). 3. You're testing on Agfa devices which do something mysterious. 4. Your workflow includes a process between Exchange and RIP which performs on-host separation for you. 5. You are mistaken 6. I did it wrong. 7. We aren't all using the same words for the same things. I would use "produces separations" to imply that a PostScript file is produced which contains one or more GREYSCALE pages for EACH original colour page. Each greyscale page contains the image for a different coloured printing plate. This is distinct from in-RIP separation where a PostScript file contains only one copy of each page, but the RIP generates multiple pages in response, each corresponding to a plate. To return to an earlier theme - most level 2 imagesetters do have in-RIP separation. Much less than 50% of level 2 imagesetter USERS know about this so they continue to use on-host separation (for this and possibly other reasons). If they use an application which DOES manage to do in-RIP separation, they are unlikely to be aware of this, or the difference between this and (say) printing separations from QuarkXPress. In this respect, if they believe Crackerjack prints separations, and they end up with separations in their hand, it's a brave man who tries to explain otherwise. Right now, I still believe that Crackerjack can only produce separations to a device that includes in-RIP separation, OR, if the files it produces are separated by another application before the RIP. To support this, I quote from the Crackerjack FAQ on the LantanaRips web site: Q. My laser printer is not printing separations. A. Desktop laser printers are not enabled to do in-RIP separations. Therefore, they are unable to process Crackerjack's commands to create separated output. Please help me get this right! I want to put a web page together about colour separation and I want it to be correct! Aandi Inston http://www.quite.com/ On Thursday, 20 November, 1997 22:23, mjahn [SMTP:michael_jahn@agfa.com] wrote: > > >If CrackerJack could color separate a pdf file, it would print from > >Exchange first a cyan page, then a magenta page, then a yellow page, then a > >black page (or spot color pages) to the RIP (output device, printer, etc.). > > Which is what it does, exactly, when you use it properly and your PDF > file has been created properly. > > You can even selectively print only the single plate you need. > > >But what it actually does is send one full color page to the RIP with a > >command to instruct the *RIP* to perform the color separation of the > >"composite" (full color) postscript page. > > *sigh* > > yes, it is possible to ask Lantanas Plug-in to do this, but Crakerjack > also offers the user the ability to send files in as separated plates. > > In the Print Options dialog box, select the Color tab and click over the > Separations button. You can even print spot colors as long as you prited > you composite PostScript properly from the orginal application (that is, > spot colors as spots, but composite, not plates) and you have dragged the > prologue.ps and epilogue.ps files from the highend folder (tucked inside > the Xtras folders) and drag it to the same level of Distiller and then > restatr Distiller and then click over "Distill with prologue.ps / > epilogue.ps" in the advanced setting tab in Distiller Job Options. This > will give you the ability to keep the spot color definitons in your PDF > file, and then (of course) gives the CrakerJack plug-in the ability to > separate them...and indeed, individually as well.+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 12:20:21-GMT,1893;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22528 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:20:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA19523; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:16:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:12:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA19397; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:12:45 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19971124140816.007315f8@notes.ctl.com.cy> X-Sender: claire@notes.ctl.com.cy X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:08:16 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Claire Kapiri Subject: [PDF] RC4 security method Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Can anyone provide additional information about the RC4 security method used by Acrobat Exchange? We plan to distribute a CD-ROM containing several user guides to pour clients. We will use passwords to allow them to view only a selected number of documents. Is the RC4 method used by Exchange sufficient to prevent users from viewing the contents of PDFs for which they do not have a password? Many thanks in advance for your help Claire Claire Kapiri Technical Writer Card Tech Limited Nicosia Cyprus Tel: +357 2 376671 Fax: +357 2 377412 Email: claire@ctl.com.cy +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 12:37:00-GMT,1402;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22798 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:36:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA20222; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:33:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:30:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA20012; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:30:54 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:32:01 -0500 From: G_LUCHETTA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf-digest for November-23-97 [V2 #83]On Vacation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I will be out of the office until Dec. 1, but will be checking my e-mail for your important message. Have a great Turkey Day! Gabe +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 12:37:02-GMT,2521;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22802 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:37:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA20183; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:33:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:29:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA19918; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:29:56 -0600 Message-Id: <199711241225.NAA21863@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Acrobat Distiller as NT service Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 13:30:14 +0100 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>we'd like to install Acrobat 3.0 Distiller module, as a permanent >>service to our end-users not >>confident with Adobe Technology. >>To use it on a Windows NT Server without the need to log-on we want to >>start Distiller as a NT service. >>Has anybody already experienced a way to do this ? >>We'll appreciate any kind of help. > >You could set up a modem that delivered to a Watched folder by Distiller >(for small files) or 4-Sight iSDN Manager (for larger files) and the >customer could drop off the files into specifc watched folders that each >had their own settings. Michael, I think you misunderstood the original question: installing Distiller as NT service is not intended "as a Service Bureau", but as NT process that activates upon the NT PC hardware startup without need of user logon. This is a typical question around applications that are "effective services" (in the sense that they do an automatic service) but they were not written accordingly. I don't know if Adobe can suggest a way to do this, I know a bypass way that is to use an automatic logon procedure that makes NT logging automatically (as a definable user) when it is booted or rebooted. When the NT PC can stand logged but unattended, this may be a solution. Andrea Valle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 12:42:26-GMT,1402;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22900 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:42:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA20565; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:39:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:36:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA20422; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:36:24 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:37:56 -0500 From: G_LUCHETTA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf-digest for November-24-97 [V2 #84]On Vacation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I will be out of the office until Dec. 1, but will be checking my e-mail for your important message. Have a great Turkey Day! Gabe +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 13:52:04-GMT,3197;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23998 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:52:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA23215; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:47:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:42:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23013; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:42:38 -0600 Message-Id: <199711241338.OAA22168@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] RC4 security method Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 14:43:17 +0100 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >We plan to distribute a CD-ROM containing several user guides to pour >clients. We will use passwords to allow them to view only a selected number >of documents. Is the RC4 method used by Exchange sufficient to prevent >users from viewing the contents of PDFs for which they do not have a >password? What do you mean with "sufficient"? If you mean secure enough, I can tell you that nothing is absolutely secure... See the RSA Data competition that aimed at cracking a well known security system... They succeded! It's only a problem of time that a brute force method (e.g. trying all combinations) would take to find the correct response. The Adobe Acrobat RC4 implementation is a 40 bit key lenght symmetrical security system: this means that a five byte password encrypts data and the same key must be used to decrypt. 40 are secure? Well, you should try over than one thousand of billions of combinations to find the right one! It's not too much (in effect it is limited by US export laws over protection systems) for automatic computation, but _TOO MUCH_ for a manual search, even if you're lucky and find the right key in the first 40% tries. An help in security comes from the fact that all contents are encrypted, and an hacker doesn't know the content and where to locate it. More sofisticated alghorythms should be written to identify ASCII sequences to be sure to have found something. So, as far as I've explored this system, I found it secure enough. In all cases, it is _THE ONLY_ protection system available in Acrobat! There is no way to protect a PDF with another encryption system and have the file decrypted automatically by an Adobe viewer. So if it wouldn't be secure you should find a different solution from Acrobat. But... stay with us! If you're searching for a transparent way to protect your PDF files, give a look at http://www.datanet.it/Acrobat.htm for the SECURE-it system. Greetings, Andrea Valle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 15:48:34-GMT,1693;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26585 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:48:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA27426; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:44:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:39:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA27259; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:39:51 -0600 Message-Id: From: "hilton" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] Protection for CD- Publications Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:19:36 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Some time ago there were some posts from Diana Holm of Acropolis on a product called Keychain that had been developed for the protection of PDF publications. I cannot get hold of them or her for that matter and have a requirement for their product. Could anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks and regards Hilton Holder Scanlab +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 16:17:21-GMT,2005;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27332 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:17:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA28162; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:07:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:02:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27981; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:02:34 -0600 From: whitehouse@wharton.upenn.edu Message-Id: <199711241559.KAA04606@equity.wharton.upenn.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:03:19 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Protection for CD- Publications In-Reply-To: ; from "whitehouse" at Mon Nov 24 11:03:19 1997 X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 3.1.1 (Windows 95/NT)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hilton: I believe they've upgraded the product and changed the name of the company to FileOpen Systems. Try contacting Sanford Bingham or Diana Holm at 212.877.3183. I believe Sanford's e-mail address is sbingham@fileopen.com (so, I suppose, Diana's is very likely dholm@fileopen.com). :Kendall > Some time ago there were some posts from Diana Holm of Acropolis on a > product called Keychain that had been developed for the protection of PDF > publications. > > I cannot get hold of them or her for that matter and have a requirement for > their product. Could anyone point me in the right direction? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 16:37:20-GMT,1764;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27851 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:37:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29112; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:31:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:25:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA28824; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:25:38 -0600 Message-ID: <3479A99C.2BC5@pop.tiac.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:23:34 -0500 From: Rick Melanson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Capture PlugIn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I am new to using PDF and the group of Acrobat Products. I would like to know if anyone uses the Capture Plugin. I am going to be converting technical documents into PDF and it seems that to be able to convert a group of documents, the full Capture package is required. Does anyone have a recommendation on which I should use. Thank you for any assistance you can give me. Rick Melanson rmelanso@pop.tiac.net Sr. Technical Writer Micrion Corp. Peabody, MA 01960 508-538-3757 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 16:51:46-GMT,2220;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28211 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:51:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29702; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:45:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:40:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA29493; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:40:54 -0600 Message-ID: <3479AE2A.3D3F@document-solutions.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:41:14 -0800 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Capture PlugIn References: <3479A99C.2BC5@pop.tiac.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rick Melanson wrote: > > Hello, I am new to using PDF and the group of Acrobat Products. I would > like to know if anyone uses the Capture Plugin. I am going to be > converting technical documents into PDF and it seems that to be able > to convert a group of documents, the full Capture package is required. > Does anyone have a recommendation on which I should use. Thank you for > any assistance you can give me. For any significant quantity of documents, or, if you anticipate needing to "clean up" the OCR / page recognition before creating PDF, the full version of Capture is highly reccomended. Excuse me, make that "required". -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 17:00:27-GMT,4850;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28478 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:00:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA30004; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:54:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:50:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA29820; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:50:29 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF8B6.194638A0@sfdn7-067.sf.compuserve.com> From: Karl Schmidtmann To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Protection for CD- Publications Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:49:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCF8B6.194DD9C0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCF8B6.194DD9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hilton: Try diana@fileopen.com . Best of luck. Karl ---------- From: hilton[SMTP:hilton@improtech.co.za] Sent: Monday, November 24, 1997 7:19 AM To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Protection for CD- Publications Some time ago there were some posts from Diana Holm of Acropolis on a product called Keychain that had been developed for the protection of PDF publications. I cannot get hold of them or her for that matter and have a requirement for their product. Could anyone point me in the right direction? 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Does anyone know which is its subject and >where could I find it? I found this to be a mistype (Adobe guys please inform Gary Staas), as it was intended as Technical Note #5044, which name is "Color Separation Conventions for PostScript Language Programs". I've just downloaded it from Adobe site and I'm finding very interesting to clarify this thread. I'm just reporting one sentence, for common interest: How color separations are achieved will depend on whether the PostScript language file is separated by a utility on the host computer or by the printer¹s raster image processor (RIP). When printing to Level 2 PostScript output devices that are capable of in-RIP separations, color separations are produced by adding a few lines of code to the top of a composite PostScript language job and sending it to the printer. When printing to Level 1 devices, and Level 2 devices that don¹t have this in-RIP separation feature, creating separations is more difficult, and time consuming, and imposes added constraints on the composite Postscript language code. This latter method of creating separa-tions is called ³Level 1-style separations². I'd like comments from Adobe about the effective capabilities to do color separations of the previously mentioned AVDocPrintParams function of the AcroSDK API. Andrea +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 17:29:31-GMT,2314;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29382 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:29:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA30895; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:12:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:08:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA30614; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:08:37 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:09:14 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "George Brandsberg" Subject: [PDF] XCel Chart problems in PDFs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Good morning, A colleague of mine is importing Microsoft Excel charts into PageMaker and creating PDFs of the resulting documents with a Macintosh. He usually uses the "Publish" and "Subscribe" features to import the charts, but has also used the "Place" command. While the charts look fine and print correctly in PageMaker, they sometimes appear differently in the PDF. Lines the the charts are sometimes thicker or thinner than the originals and appear gray instead of black. I believe he said he is preparing the charts in gray scale rather than color. Any ideas why the charts would look different in the PDF? Any suggestions for fixes? Thanks in advance for your help. --George Brandsberg ========================================================== George Brandsberg gbrandsb@oz.oznet.ksu.edu Electronic Publishing Specialist 308 Umberger Hall Kansas State University voice: 913-532-1147 Manhattan, KS 66506-3402 U.S.A fax: 913-532-5633 ========================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 18:56:30-GMT,4690;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01717 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:56:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA02211; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:52:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:43:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA01869; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:43:18 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF908.C3C42EC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:42:09 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Monday, 24 November, 1997 15:08, Andrea Valle [SMTP:valle@datanet.it] wrote: > > Just to continue this very important thread, I saw in the last version of > the Acrobat Viewer Plug-In API On-line Reference (Technical Note #5168) > from Acrobat 3.01 SDK, an interesting passage about print commands in the > API. > > On page 1171 and subsequent it explains the AVDocPrintParams function. > This is a very interesting function that enable a plug-in writer to print > the document even changing the usual printing interface/dialog mechanism. > On page 1173, describing the complex list of parameters, I see a > "doColorSeparations" parameter, explained as "Perform level 1 color > separations. See Technical Note #5054". > > 1) What does it mean? Is that an embedded function that does what we're > looking for since so much time? Level 1, not the so celebrated Level 2 > In-RIP-Sep for those happily typesetting? > > 2) I looked for references to Technical Note #5054 even on the Adobe www, > but I didn't fiund anything. Does anyone know which is its subject and > where could I find it? There do seem to be a number of mistakes here. This is based on my own research this afternoon, not any inside knowledge... 1. The document should clearly be technote 5044. This describes level 1 spot colour conventions (which are not used by Distiller or Reader by default). 2. The output from this function (I've looked) is NOT separated plates. It is SEPARABLE plates, which is interesting and useful - perhaps even more useful - but not the same. In other words, the output is PostScript that the common separation utilities will be able to separate. In general, but with exceptions, level 2 RIPs using in-RIP separation will NOT understand this. In other words - you won't get separations unless you use extra software (not supplied). 3. When separations are chosen, the separable file is not EPS, nor could I see any documented way to get a separable EPS. This means that it is that much harder to separate the file since the commonly available means of doing so (PageMaker, Illustrator, QuarkXPress) will only separate an EPS file(?). PressWise will probably do it, and we might speculate that this facility is a hook for use with this tool. 4. There are a number of errors in the PostScript generated, including an inability to work on the oldest level 1 RIPs (which lack the // operator). Much more importantly, the code seems to include a broken definition of findcmykcustomcolor. This will produce PostScript errors if attempting to produce a composite output - though it may succeed if separated. This may be acceptable, but is far from robust. 5. When the necessary combination of options is used to generate PostScript in this way, you lose a number of important facilities, including the ability to output TrueType and substitution fonts. Although some pre-press customers may be happy with this, it is rather limiting. I SUSPECT that the Export PostScript / EPS function in the Macintosh version of Exchange also suffers from the same deficiencies, though I can't find them documented. Conclusion: avoid this facility unless you understand and can live with all of its deficiencies. Though such limitations - especially the font ones - may already be present in a number of PDF workflow products. Aandi+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 22:56:55-GMT,3350;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07918 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:56:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA09163; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:40:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:35:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09029; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:35:45 -0600 Message-Id: <9711241640.AC23958@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 11:45:00 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , "Bob Greene" , "Kurt Foss" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yikes! Lets go to the horses mouth. Mr. Green - please advise us as to what we are doing wrong, or tell us the fact that your Plug-in does not actually perform separations in a way we can use with Distiller without some setdistillerparams operators in the Start-up folder. or something. >As I was potentially adding to the confusion I'd like to indicate how >arrived at my conclusions (re-did it this morning, so for now I'd exclude >I got the setup wrong): > >- I took a PDF file that contains an RGB-image, an CMYK-image, black text >- opened it in Acrobat EXchange 3.01/Mac >- set up CrackerJack 1.01 DEMO (15 August 1997) with the following >parameters: >--- PPD: Distiller 3.0 PPD >--- print to file as PostScript file (that is, not EPS) >--- Resolution 2400 dpi >--- turn reg-marks and color bar on >--- Separations (that is, not Composite) >--- Screen, intent & UCR: Printer >--- Frequency/andle/spot: 175/15.0/Ellipse >--- requested plate: Cyan >- feed the resulting PostScript file into Distiller 3.01/mac-PPC >(pre-press style set-up) >- open file in Acrobat Exchange > >=>> result: composite file with perfect reg-marks and color bar (that is, >though: not the single Cyan plate). > >I would love to be proven wrong (because I would immediately recommend to >all my customers - who are extremely hungry for a print >separations-plug-in that works in their today's workflow - to buy >CrackerJack) and learn what I am missing. Respectfully, Reason #173 to fear technology... Michael Jahn o o o o o o> o PDF Workflow Evangelist .|. \|. \|/ // X \ | <| <|> Agfa Division Bayer Corp. /\ >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Mr. Asciihead learns the Macarena. Wilmington, MA P 978.658.5600 Ext. 5504 01887-1069 F 978.658.7968 Cell Phone 617.605.5716 E michael_jahn@agfa.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 23:14:39-GMT,2664;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08413 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:14:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA09856; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:57:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:56:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09715; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:56:03 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF92C.09F723C0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 22:55:14 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Monday, 24 November, 1997 18:42, Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] wrote: Correction: > > 4. There are a number of errors in the PostScript generated, including an > inability to work on the oldest level 1 RIPs (which lack the // operator). Much > more importantly, the code seems to include a broken definition of > findcmykcustomcolor. This will produce PostScript errors if attempting to > produce a composite output - though it may succeed if separated. This > may be acceptable, but is far from robust. The error is both less and more serious than I had believed (a little more research has shown). There is nothing wrong with the ersatz findcmykcustomcolor. The problem occurs when a colour space was originally specified with an ALTERNATIVE colour space of RGB, as in: [ /Separation (Red) /DeviceRGB { 0 0 } ] setcolorspace This will produce a PostScript error in all cases when Exchange is asked to produce 5044-seps. I assume this construction is unusual, or would not occur in the PostScript generated from 5044-separable input. If CMYK is used as the alternative colour space, this error does not occur. Nevertheless, this shows that producing separations remains a murky area which PDF has done nothing to improve. Perhaps a foolproof PDF separator should be my next project... Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 23:15:16-GMT,2843;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08432 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:15:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA10412; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:10:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:09:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA10309; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:09:31 -0600 From: "Michel Laurin" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Capture PlugIn Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:11:08 -0500 Message-ID: <01bcf92e$3efb4e00$3067fdcf@vlvrbldb.videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 matter of budget and volume, Capture lite does not come near to Capture 2.0 when volume comes around, batch mode etc, although the recognition is better in 2.0 versus Capture LITE and all sorts of additionnal features, still if you can afford somebody sitting in front of a PC waiting for the few pages to be processed, that's one thing, if not spend the money in 2.0, you won't regret it. regards from Montréal michellaurin@videotron.ca -----Original Message----- From: Rick Melanson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 24 novembre, 1997 11:27 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Capture PlugIn > >Hello, I am new to using PDF and the group of Acrobat Products. I would >like to know if anyone uses the Capture Plugin. I am going to be >converting technical documents into PDF and it seems that to be able >to convert a group of documents, the full Capture package is required. >Does anyone have a recommendation on which I should use. Thank you for >any assistance you can give me. > >Rick Melanson >rmelanso@pop.tiac.net >Sr. Technical Writer >Micrion Corp. >Peabody, MA 01960 >508-538-3757 >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 23:28:52-GMT,8413;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08969 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:28:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA10500; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:12:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:11:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA10425; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:11:28 -0600 From: "Marc Esser" To: Subject: [PDF] creating pdf in VB/VBScript/ASP Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:11:59 -0800 Message-ID: <01bcf92e$5e1ea610$acefd3cf@sds003> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA-1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0098_01BCF8EB.4FB694E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01BCF8EB.4FB694E0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0094_01BCF8EB.4FB387A0" ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01BCF8EB.4FB387A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0095_01BCF8EB.4FB387A0" ------=_NextPart_001_0095_01BCF8EB.4FB387A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 does anybody have experience with creating PDF-files on the fly from = within Active Server Pages or Visual Basic or VB script? 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+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 23:38:55-GMT,1594;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09304 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:38:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA11445; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:33:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:32:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11319; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:32:21 -0600 From: bmarsh@seps.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SEPL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: esser@inetworld.net Message-ID: <88256559.00839FF9.00@Notesvr.seps.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:02:46 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] creating pdf in VB/VBScript/ASP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Depends on how large and complicated your PDF files are going to be. We create PDF from VBA code from within MS Access. However, we create links, bookmarks, etc. at the same time and, therefore, have to create PS files that go through distiller. Shortest path (PDFWriter) to PDF will still be _much_ slower than creating HTML on the fly. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 0:15:47-GMT,1796;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10123 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:15:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA12661; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:10:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:08:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA12577; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:08:57 -0600 Message-Id: <199711250009.SAA25093@glacier.binc.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Steve Derene" To: pdf-l@emrg.com Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:10:26 -600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Return to previous spot X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm certain this must have been discussed before, but I'd appreciate whatever advice anyone has on the following. I'm using Exchange and want to have commands so that a reader can refer to another document, then return to the same spot in the first document. I've tried using the "go back" command, but it the user scrolls the reference document, using this command returns to the previous view, not the same spot in the original document. steve derene +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 1:03:11-GMT,6914;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11312 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:03:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA14260; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:59:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:56:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA14156; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:56:35 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:55:20 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bob Greene Subject: [PDF] Crackerjack and color separations Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All Thanks to Karl Schmidtmann of Ambia, I have been informed that there has been a discussion going on in this forum about doing color separations using Crackerjack. I have just subscribed to this list, so I am not 100% up to date of the specific questions. I will attempt some general answers and hope that I hit the mark. When the user selects Separations in Crackerjack, a composite PostScript file is generated with in-RIP separations turned on. This has advantages and drawbacks. The advantage is performance. The PostScript file is about the size of a single conventional separation. As a result, PostScript generation and file transmission are faster, so you return to your application sooner. On devices that download the whole file before starting, processing of the file starts earlier. On most RIPs, there is a single interpretation of the PostScript and a rendering for each of the separations selected, versus an interpretation and rendering for each of the separations. Also, the smaller size of the composite file has a smaller impact on network performance during transmission. Even though Crackerjack's approach is a cross-vendor solution (including Harlequin), the disadvantage is that it is not necessarily supported on all devices. It only works on RIPs that support in-RIP separations. This excludes separation on desktop laser printers, Level 1 RIPs and early Level 2 RIPs that were underconfigured with memory and disk space to perform this function. Other frequently asked questions center around how to do separations for documents created using Microsoft applications on the PC or Mac. Crackerjack can handle this nicely. Below, I have copied the relevant section from the latest version of our workflow guide (not posted yet). I hope this helps. Bob Greene Lantana - maker of Crackerjack, 1997 winner of the GATF InterTech Technology Award and Publish Magazine's Impact Award. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guidelines for separating Word, Excel, and other documents created using Microsoft applications Below is a guide to production printing of documents created from Microsoft applications, a description of the simple steps to produce color separated output starting from Microsoft applications, and a discussion of related issues. Much of the difficulty in high quality printing of documents created with Microsoft applications on the PC can be attributed to either font selection, lack of available high end production printing tools, PostScript printer drivers, and Microsoft's use of RGB color space. Often TrueType fonts are not supported by production printing environments. Often PC systems either do not have high end print drivers, or if they do, they do not have the right PostScript Printer Description files that assist the printer driver in generating the right code. There is nothing wrong with an RGB color space. It just does not map nicely to print inks. For example, black is 0% of red, green, and blue, or 100% of cyan, magenta, and yellow print inks, except that it is usually printed with black ink. Also, data that is blue, would normally be printed with two inks, cyan plus magenta, or alternatively as a "named" spot color, a feature not supported by Microsoft applications. Use Type 1 fonts for maximum portability; in other words, avoid TrueType when creating the document. From Microsoft Word or Excel, save to a PostScript file including all fonts and using an imagesetter PostScript Printer Description (PPD) file, such as, an Agfa Avantra PPD, or the Acrobat Distiller PPD. If the application is on a PC, then you must use PSPrinter 3.0.1 (not 4.1) as the printer driver. With the PostScript file as input, create a PDF document using the Adobe Acrobat Distiller (refer to discussion of Distiller options above) but with the Color Conversion option in the Advanced Job Options set to "Unchanged". You can verify that the information is intact by viewing the PDF document with Acrobat Exchange. In Crackerjack, use a high-end PPD. Crackerjack will include code in the PostScript file that will turn on the in-RIP separation capability of PostScript Level 2 RIPs. If your Crackerjack separations produce black information on the cyan, magenta, or yellow plates, then either 1.) PDFWriter was used to create the PostScript before making the PDF, 2.) a high end PPD was not used to generate the PostScript, 3.) the Color Conversion Advanced Job Option in Distiller was not set to "Unchanged", or 4.) if from a PC, PSPrinter 3.0.1 was not used. Additional strategies to insure that black appears only on the black plate are a.) changing all the black information in the original document to a single printing ink color (Cyan, Magenta, or Yellow), recreating the PDF, etc., or b.) set Custom GCR (under Tuning on the "Color" index card) "Black Generation" to "Maximum" and "Black Ink Limit" to 100% when selecting "Separations". If you are experiencing "crosstalk", i.e., color data that you expected to appear on only one plate appearing on multiple plates, chances are that the PDF file was created using PDFWriter rather than Distiller as recommended above. If you wish to create a 2-color job, you should create or change the data in the Word or Excel document selecting colors that correspond to a single printing ink (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, or Black). These can be printed as whatever color you like on the printing press. Likewise, for a 3-color job. If you use Red, Green or Blue, the data will be separated into multiple plates because these desktop applications do not have the ability to identify the colors as "named" spot colors. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 1:56:42-GMT,2119;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12310 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:56:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA15929; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:53:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:51:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA15825; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:51:54 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF901.C08A3DA0@sfdn7-067.sf.compuserve.com> From: Karl Schmidtmann To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Graphic swelling file size Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:49:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA15822 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greetings: This must be pretty straightforward, but I have to say is stumping me. In Windows 95 I have been adding a graphic to a MS Word97 document, a simple 4K gif file. Using PDF Writer, the file size balloons. A 32K Word file with 4K graphic comes out over 1Mb. Interestingly, if I cut the graphic out of Word, paste it into a graphics program, copy it, and paste it back into Word, the PDF comes out to be 35K. This is not just my system, as I was handed the problem by other folks that were stumped by the ballooning file size. So, I guess the answer is to copy the file and paste it back in, but I have to think there must be a more straightforward method. Any ideas? Thanks, and happy Thanksgiving to all. Karl Schmidtmann +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 14:18:53-GMT,3173;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24475 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:18:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA24240; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:14:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:10:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA24046; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:10:21 -0600 >Received: from oce.nl (pc4-evdl.oce.nl) by smtp02.oce.nl (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21585; Mon, 24 Nov 97 14:50:25 +0100 Message-Id: <347986BB.E6C59428@oce.nl> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:52:59 +0100 From: "Erwin A.R. van der Linden" Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Oc=E9-Technologies?= B.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: smtp01!lists.pdfzone.com!pdf@everglades.binc.net Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Acrobat Distiller as NT service References: <199711241225.NAA21863@master.datanet.it> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Andrea Valle wrote: > >>we'd like to install Acrobat 3.0 Distiller module, as a permanent > >>service to our end-users not > >>confident with Adobe Technology. > >>To use it on a Windows NT Server without the need to log-on we want to > >>start Distiller as a NT service. > >>Has anybody already experienced a way to do this ? > >>We'll appreciate any kind of help. > > > >You could set up a modem that delivered to a Watched folder by Distiller > >(for small files) or 4-Sight iSDN Manager (for larger files) and the > >customer could drop off the files into specifc watched folders that each > >had their own settings. > Michael, > I think you misunderstood the original question: > installing Distiller as NT service is not intended "as a Service Bureau", > but as NT process that activates upon the NT PC hardware startup without > need of user logon. > This is a typical question around applications that are "effective > services" (in the sense that they do an automatic service) but they were > not written accordingly. > Have a look in the Windows NT Server ResourceKit. The supplied CDROM contains a tool named srvany.exe. This tool allows running Windows NT applications as services. You can use it together with Distiller. Regards, Erwin -- _____________________________________________________________ Erwin A.R. van der Linden Oce-Technologies B.V. Phone: ++31 77 3594841 P.O. Box 101 Fax: ++31 77 3595337 5900 MA Venlo Email: evdl@oce.nl Netherlands WWW: http://www.oce.com/ _____________________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Nov-1997 15:16:31-GMT,2726;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25649 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:16:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA26459; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:12:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:06:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26227; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:06:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199711241502.QAA22473@master.datanet.it> Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 16:07:30 +0100 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there someone here from Lantana who could say a definitive word about THEIR software? I'm confused too, and apart from knowing too much technical details on PostScript, I'd like to know if there are some sensible differences among demo and commercial Crackerjacks versions and an official response from Lantana (I'm a potential reseller, so I'd like to know fully about CJ before I'm telling customers that they need it to do seps from PDF!). Just to continue this very important thread, I saw in the last version of the Acrobat Viewer Plug-In API On-line Reference (Technical Note #5168) from Acrobat 3.01 SDK, an interesting passage about print commands in the API. On page 1171 and subsequent it explains the AVDocPrintParams function. This is a very interesting function that enable a plug-in writer to print the document even changing the usual printing interface/dialog mechanism. On page 1173, describing the complex list of parameters, I see a "doColorSeparations" parameter, explained as "Perform level 1 color separations. See Technical Note #5054". 1) What does it mean? Is that an embedded function that does what we're looking for since so much time? Level 1, not the so celebrated Level 2 In-RIP-Sep for those happily typesetting? 2) I looked for references to Technical Note #5054 even on the Adobe www, but I didn't fiund anything. Does anyone know which is its subject and where could I find it? Greetings, Andrea Valle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 3:39:50-GMT,2078;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14220 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:39:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA18908; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:35:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:33:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA18815; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:33:10 -0600 Message-Id: <199711250333.UAA23857@sportsurf.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Graphic swelling file size Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 23:43:46 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Karl, What version are you working with? 3.0 or 3.01? The File Size Swelling was the killer bug that put all of our PDF efforts on a deep freeze this past summer. But, I was using Mac Acrobat 3.0. Just got 3.01 last week and have yet to dive deeper than the install. But, we were told by Adobe folks that the file size swelling was fixed in 3.01 for the Mac. The art Forms is where I had the biggest hassles. The swelling was wild and not at all logical in the bloat per bit. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 6:39:24-GMT,3650;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17693 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 23:39:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA23352; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:33:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:31:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA23261; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:31:40 -0600 X-Sender: oura@150.2.192.250 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora v1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Maristela Oura Subject: [PDF] Re: File size and Adobe Acrobat distiller Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:43:15 +0900 Message-ID: <1331649901-104107713@id.geyms.med.ge.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id AAA23258 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Actually I am using Win-NT 4.0 Japanese Version and converting from Interleaf software also on Japanese. I am using PL2PS.EXE program to create a ps file and then convert to pdf. If I use PDFWriter or any other way to create pdf files, there is no error on converting, but it does not create a correct pdf file. So , I should use this process and by using it I have the following error : "A fatal postScript error has left the interpreter in an indeterminate status. Choose 'ok' to restart the Distiller or 'cancel' to quit". If I split the file in two or more files or convert only the page where the problem occurs, there is no problem. If I delete some illustration from the page problem, it converts it ok but the error will occur in the next page. Does anyone use the PL2PS.exe program to create a ps file ? >From: Aandi Inston >But read the page on PostScript errors at http://www.quite.com/ps/errors.htm >and see if it helps you. Please, could you confirm the URL, I could not access it. Thank you very much. Maristela At 01:31 ŒßŒã 97/11/21 -0500, you wrote: >I did not notice what system you are using but if you are using a >Macintosh , even though you have a total of 128M RAM you may have only a >portion of that assigned for use by the Distiller program and you are >still running out of RAM. On a Windows based unit the available >resources may also not be sufficient depending on networking, what other >programs, etc., that are running. If you can split the file in two and >distill it and then put the PDF files together, that is a possible >solution. Otherwise you may have to do some reconfiguring to free up >resources as that is the most likely cause of this error. > >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 00:04:14 -0000 >From: Aandi Inston >Subject: RE: [PDF] Error on distiller >"Error" is not really enough information to make any suggestion. >But read the page on PostScript errors at http://www.quite.com/ps/errors.htm >and see if it helps you. >Aandi --------------------------------------------------------- Maristela Oura GE Yokogawa Medical Systems 4-7-127 Asahigaoka, Hino-shi Tokyo 191 - Japan Tel : 81-425-85-5067 Fax: 81-425-85-5150 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 8:25:39-GMT,1974;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA19707 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 01:25:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA25613; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:20:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:17:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA25476; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:17:17 -0600 Message-Id: <199711250813.JAA25381@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] Crackerjack and color separations Date: Tue, 25 Nov 97 09:17:53 +0100 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >When the user selects Separations in Crackerjack, a composite PostScript >file is generated with in-RIP separations turned on. So, is it true that Crackerjack _DO NOT_ produce single color separations (intended as "producing a single plate with the same result as separating from QX, PM or FH") but only in-line code that activates in-RIP sep? Well, if I understood Bob contribution (thanks) the answer is YES. Now, I think it would be very important to be able to produce color separations also from a desktop printer (just to proof before going typesetting!) or even from L1 RIPs. Could we expect an improved Crackerjack to be able to do so, or Aandi's next "fatigue", or would it only be a dream? 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Tue, 25 Nov 1997 07:51:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA02295; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:47:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:44:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA02180; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:44:26 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF96D.AC748480@sfdn3-013.sf.compuserve.com> From: Karl Schmidtmann To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Graphic swelling file size Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 06:44:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCF96D.AC7DAC40" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCF96D.AC7DAC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark: Thanks for the tip. I guess after bitching about not getting 3.01 update, I should install it now that I have it. The math sure is strange, though. Thanks again. Karl ---------- From: Mark Rauterkus[SMTP:mrauterkus@sportsurf.net] Sent: Monday, November 24, 1997 3:43 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Graphic swelling file size Karl, What version are you working with? 3.0 or 3.01? The File Size Swelling was the killer bug that put all of our PDF efforts on a deep freeze this past summer. But, I was using Mac Acrobat 3.0. Just got 3.01 last week and have yet to dive deeper than the install. But, we were told by Adobe folks that the file size swelling was fixed in 3.01 for the Mac. The art Forms is where I had the biggest hassles. 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Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:12:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03236; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:09:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:07:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03150; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:07:56 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF9B3.D60BEFE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Bleeds, Crackerjack and Quite Imposing Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:06:27 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Bob, First, thanks for finally sorting out the separation issue in PDF-L. I had thought it was like that but one person was absolutely insistent that Crackerjack was making a separated file for him... You may have heard of Quite Imposing - our attempt at visual imposition within Exchange. I would like if possible to start a dialog with you to make sure the two products work smoothly together - hopefully to everyone's advantage. I have two initial points. First is a question about how Crackerjack handles the MediaBox/CropBox origin. Exchange is thoroughly inconsistent, doing one thing if you print, another if you use ExportPS. This is important to us because we implement a "Shift and Trim" function which allows page contents to be shifted - actually adjusting the media box. With ExportPS, the user perceives no effect, since the origin has not moved. I'm not sure if we should be moving the contents instead (by adding a "cm"). Second, is the issue of bleeds, something you may already have given some thought to. I've posted a discussion piece to the pdf-prepress-l group, and I've attached a copy in case you didn't see that. I'd value the comments of you or your company, and if we could arrive at a consistent approach for both products, that could be particularly valuable. ..... 'Bleeds' are almost unknown in the world of desktop printing, but are an everyday essential for many high-end users. Bleeds are the technique commonly used in glossy magazines to allow coloured or illustrated backgrounds to extend right to the edge of a page. Because the cutting and binding of paper is not infinitely accurate, this is accommodated by allowing the page contents to extend off one or more of the edges of a trimmed page. The excess is set to be larger than the tolerances in the page cutting. At their simplest, bleeds are almost a "non-issue". The image is made larger and printed on a larger sheet. After printing this is trimmed. Bleeds become a production issue when they are combined with the automatic addition of trim marks (rather than including them in the design); or with automatic cutting; or especially with imposition, where pages are combined onto a larger sheet, which may be folded and trimmed in a variety of ways. Although some applications allow the user to adjust for bleeds when printing or imposing, there is a lack of uniformity. There seems no public, widely adopted, standard for specifying bleeds in either PDF or PostScript files. In practical terms, there is no use defining any sort of standard if nobody uses it. However, there is a need to define processing of bleeds for our Quite Imposing application (which works only with PDF). We are making this proposal available initially for comment so that we can ensure Quite Imposing offers sufficient flexibility for our customers needs. However, we would welcome a more general debate about the area, and the broadening of this into a general standard (within the time available). The simplest proposal requires no effort or changes. That is to reuse ("overload", if you like) two existing concepts in the PDF specification - the media box (usually the original page size, and almost no applications allow this to be changed); and the crop box (which can be set using cropping tools in Exchange). But I believe that this overloading of existing functions is dangerous. It would also be difficult to crop a large page and then define a bleed within the cropped area, which is a potential requirement. There is also the danger that users would provide carefully cropped pages for production, which would then acquire unexpected and undesirable bleeds. The proposal is to add a key to the page dictionaries of PDF files for which bleeds are to be used. (The PDF standard allows extra keys to be used; PDF viewers just ignore the ones they do not understand). This would contain information about how the bleeds on a page are to be managed. Quite Imposing would use this; it may be appropriate for some other applications to use it too. I will propose the key /QITE_bleed_1 for this, initially (where the _1 indicates version 1 and allows for future developments). The end of this proposal includes the proposed syntax of the dictionary attached to this key. Where do these keys come from? The keys can be added by a plug-in to Acrobat Exchange which provides an appropriate user interface (including, for instance, the ability to define a bleed for all even pages). This would, naturally, be a part of Quite Imposing, but if the proposals were adopted an inexpensive or free plug-in could be distributed for this function alone. In the current release of Exchange, it should be noted that these keys survive the Document > Insert Pages and Document > Extract Pages facilities. When Document > Replace Pages is used, the keys from the original (replaced) page are used, which may be undesirable, but there does not seem any option to get around this. The keys can very easily be generated as a part of PostScript too. For instance, the following defines half inch (12.7mm) bleeds within the otherwise visible area of the left, bottom, and top of the current page: [ {ThisPage} << /QITE_bleed_1 << /Bleed_Interior [ 36 36 0 36 ] /Bleed_Exterior /MediaBox >> >> /PUT pdfmark These in turn could come from additions to popular DTP packages, or from stock EPS files (it's very easy to put this in an EPS file, which once placed defines the bleed for the current page). Syntax of /QITE_bleed_1 dictionary Important: if you planning to implement anything using these keys contact help@quite.com to discover the latest status of this proposal before you start! /Bleed_Interior [ bbox ] /Bleed_Exterior [ bbox ] | /MediaBox These two define the interior and exterior of a bleed area. The interior is expected to align with any page template or registration marks. The exterior should represent a box which completely encloses the interior and which contains marks to extend outside the normal page area. The sizes are given as an array of four elements which define a rectangle. The origin is the same as the origin of the page's MediaBox (but not necessarily the bottom left of the MediaBox). Alternatively, the bleed exterior may be the name /MediaBox, which indicates the page's media box (original page size) is used. /Bleed_Margin [ left bottom right top ] This gives a bleed margin, relative to the bleed interior or the bleed exterior. All the values given should be positive, and are a distance 'outwards' from the interior edge indicated. If both interior and exterior are specified, this value is ignored. Otherwise the value of one (interior or exterior) is used to define the value of the other. In the case where the bleed interior is not otherwise defined by /Bleed_Interior or by both /Bleed_Exterior and /Bleed_Margin, the page's crop box is used. In the case where the page's bleed exterior is not otherwise defined, the page's crop box is also used. These two defaults, taken together, imply that the crop box is simply used when no bleeds are defined, which matches the current reality. Further rules: (a) a bleed cannot extend outside the media box; (b) applications which detect inconsistencies in bleeds should resolve them in a uniform way. First calculate the interior and/or exterior. Then apply margins, which might define an interior of zero size. Finally adjust the exterior so it completely encloses the interior. Aandi Inston quite@dial.pipex.com http://www.quite.com/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 16:46:22-GMT,1807;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29276 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:46:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07507; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:38:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:36:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07401; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:36:30 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCF9C0.36E5D400.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bleeds, Crackerjack and Quite Imposing Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:35:45 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear list members, Yes, I did mess up and send a private message to the main list. Sorry about that. It's the second time in two days. I must need a holiday. Anyway, there was nothing in the message that was not public, but it may be best to keep the public debate within the PDF-Prepress-L group, since it is probably a minority interest. Except that I've been asked already to cross-post to PDF-Dev, so perhaps it will turn up there too. Aandi Inston +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 16:46:30-GMT,2889;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29284 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:46:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07699; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:43:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:42:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07637; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:42:14 -0600 Message-ID: From: Decker Gary E To: "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] Conversion of MS Word documents to PDF Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:42:19 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a large number of documents (technical manuals) which were scanned by a service bureau, converted to Microsoft Word 6.0 format, and placed on CDs. These documents contain both text and graphics; the graphics (B/W, 200 dpi, TIFF Group 4 images) are linked to a separate subdirectory on the CD. We presently have 44 CDs and will be receiving many more. I have been assigned the task of converting these documents to PDF format (please don't ask why we didn't have that done to start with...long story) and placing them in a shared network folder. Other than the rather tedious process of opening each document in Word (I am running MS Word 97 on a Windows NT 4.0 platform) and printing it via PDFWriter, I have struggled to write a macro which might make this process more simple. I would like to be able to just start the process and have it run unattended if possible, taking each document on the CD and generating a PDF on the server. Are there any products, methods, etc. out there which might make this easier? I'm fairly positive that, in time, I can write a MS Word (VBA) macro to do this, but I'm wondering if someone else has been down this road before, and has a better idea? I'm open to suggestions. Thanks in advance, Gary E. Decker Information Services Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation 1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411 Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 Fax: (316) 364-4154 Pager: (316) 364-7234 E-mail: gadecke@wcnoc.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 18:23:41-GMT,4210;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01695 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:23:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11188; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:18:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:14:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10984; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:14:58 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971125180351.0092ae20@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:03:51 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Conversion of MS Word documents to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Gary, All the tools you should need are available to you inside Word. I'd suggest you write a VB script (Word macro) to loop through the directory on the CD and, for each DOC file: (1) Print the file to DISTASST (not to PDFWriter -- you'll be *very* disappointed with your graphics if you use PDFWriter); wait for completion of each by testing to see if the \DISTASST.PS file still exists. For this job, set DistAsst so that it automatically creates the output PDF without prompting. (2) Complete the PDF doc information fields using OLE from Word to Acrobat (assuming your Word document's Information section contains what you want to appear in the corresponding PDF fields). If you need some examples for using OLE with Word and Acrobat, e-mail me off-list. (3) If you need the space, move the finished file to another disk (this may be necessary, since you can't control where \DISTASST.PS is located, and the output files will be placed in that same disk's root directory.) Tom Thiersch At 10:42 AM 11/25/97 -0600, you wrote: > >I have a large number of documents (technical manuals) which were >scanned by a service bureau, converted to Microsoft Word 6.0 format, and >placed on CDs. These documents contain both text and graphics; the >graphics (B/W, 200 dpi, TIFF Group 4 images) are linked to a separate >subdirectory on the CD. We presently have 44 CDs and will be receiving >many more. > >I have been assigned the task of converting these documents to PDF >format (please don't ask why we didn't have that done to start >with...long story) and placing them in a shared network folder. Other >than the rather tedious process of opening each document in Word (I am >running MS Word 97 on a Windows NT 4.0 platform) and printing it via >PDFWriter, I have struggled to write a macro which might make this >process more simple. I would like to be able to just start the process >and have it run unattended if possible, taking each document on the CD >and generating a PDF on the server. > >Are there any products, methods, etc. out there which might make this >easier? I'm fairly positive that, in time, I can write a MS Word (VBA) >macro to do this, but I'm wondering if someone else has been down this >road before, and has a better idea? I'm open to suggestions. > >Thanks in advance, > >Gary E. Decker >Information Services Analyst >Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation >1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411 >Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA >Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 >Fax: (316) 364-4154 >Pager: (316) 364-7234 >E-mail: gadecke@wcnoc.com >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 19:57:47-GMT,1906;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03989 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:57:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA14874; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:54:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:51:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14708; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:51:22 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711250813.JAA25381@master.datanet.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:21:37 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bob Greene Subject: Re: [PDF] Crackerjack and color separations Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 9:17 AM +0100 11/25/97, Andrea Valle wrote: >Now, I think it would be very important to be able to produce color >separations also from a desktop printer (just to proof before going >typesetting!) or even from L1 RIPs. >Could we expect an improved Crackerjack to be able to do so, or Aandi's >next "fatigue", or would it only be a dream? Andrea We have heard your request loud and clear. We also understand the value to the user of being able to proof desktop separations. But with respect to future product plans, I cannot comment on individual features or functions. Thanks for the input. Bob Greene Lantana +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 19:58:13-GMT,2518;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03999 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:58:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA14873; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:54:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:51:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14729; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:51:24 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BCF9B3.D60BEFE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:39:22 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bob Greene Subject: Re: [PDF] Bleeds, Crackerjack and Quite Imposing Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Aandi >I have two initial points. First is a question about how Crackerjack handles >the MediaBox/CropBox origin. If memory serves me right, Crackerjack relies on MediaBox and BoundingBox. CropBox turned out to be virtually useless. I believe that the Acrobat folk couldn't decide whether CropBox was to crop the media or act as the bounding box. >Second, is the issue of bleeds, something you may already have given >some thought to. I'd value the comments >of you or your company. Today, Crackerjack does not do anything special with bleeds. We recommend that the user create the bleeds and specify crop marks in the creator application and generate a pdf with a sufficiently large media size. Going forward, overall I agree with your approach. Bleeds need to fall inside the MediaBox and should extend outside the CropBox. We shouldn't bore the forum further with the details of a technical proposal. Also, I believe that a discussion of how Quite Imposing and Crackerjack might work together should be taken "off forum". Bob Greene Lantana - makers of Crackerjack, 1997 winner of the GATF InterTech Technology Award and Publish Magazine's Impact Award +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Nov-1997 22:23:41-GMT,2636;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07570 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:23:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA19369; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:01:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:58:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19178; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:58:17 -0600 Message-ID: From: Decker Gary E To: "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] Banner printing Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:57:46 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In the past, my company's imaging system had the ability to generate a line of information, when printing a document to a network printer, including the network User ID of the person printing the document, along with the date and time, in a small trip of text overlaying the image, near the bottom of each page. We no longer use this imaging system, and our present-day EDMS does not have this capability to date. We are looking at the possibility of storing a good portion of our documents in Adobe Acrobat format now, and are wondering if there is any way, via API calls, etc. to produce a similar result from a PDF file when it is printed? Basically, we need the date and time, at a minimum, to be printed, and the User ID if possible. Our company is using the Windows NT 4.0 operating system on all its PCs, and runs Novell IntranetWare Client for Windows NT 4.0. If anyone can offer some help, or just to tell us if this is feasible, please let me know. I will be on vacation until December 2. Thanks. Gary E. Decker Information Services Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation 1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411 Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 Fax: (316) 364-4154 Pager: (316) 364-7234 E-mail: gadecke@wcnoc.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Nov-1997 5:38:30-GMT,8081;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA16510 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:38:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA07066; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 23:28:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 23:25:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06902; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 23:25:24 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCFA2B.E7EC6BE0@Rockhse2.docctrl.com> From: Dave Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Banner printing Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 03:25:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCFA2B.E804D5E0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCFA2B.E804D5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary We have products which are designed to do exactly this. Please check out our web site at www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: Decker Gary E [SMTP:gadecke@WCNOC.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 9:58 PM To: 'PDF Mailing List' Subject: [PDF] Banner printing In the past, my company's imaging system had the ability to generate a line of information, when printing a document to a network printer, including the network User ID of the person printing the document, along with the date and time, in a small trip of text overlaying the image, near the bottom of each page. We no longer use this imaging system, and our present-day EDMS does not have this capability to date. We are looking at the possibility of storing a good portion of our documents in Adobe Acrobat format now, and are wondering if there is any way, via API calls, etc. to produce a similar result from a PDF file when it is printed? Basically, we need the date and time, at a minimum, to be printed, and the User ID if possible. Our company is using the Windows NT 4.0 operating system on all its PCs, and runs Novell IntranetWare Client for Windows NT 4.0. If anyone can offer some help, or just to tell us if this is feasible, please let me know. I will be on vacation until December 2. Thanks. Gary E. Decker Information Services Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation 1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. 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Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 16:47:39 +1100 To: PDF@emrg.com From: "Dr. George Vossos" Subject: [PDF] ..problem reading this document(15) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Acrobat Reader v3.01 is reporting a `..problem reading this document(15).' when opening several of our recently authored PDF files. Everything behaves normally after clicking 'OK'. Does anyone know what this means? We have developed several PDF CD-ROM publications and have never experienced this problem. Thanks in advance. George. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Nov-1997 14:16:25-GMT,2178;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26156 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:16:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA18156; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:10:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:05:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17943; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:05:44 -0600 Message-Id: <199711261405.IAA17939@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Banner printing Date: Wed, 26 Nov 97 09:13:20 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Virginia Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 11/25/97 4:57 PM, Decker Gary E wrote: > We are looking at the possibility of >storing a good portion of our documents in Adobe Acrobat format now, and >are wondering if there is any way, via API calls, etc. to produce a >similar result from a PDF file when it is printed? Basically, we need >the date and time, at a minimum, to be printed, and the User ID if >possible. > >Gary E. Decker >Information Services Analyst >Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation >1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411 >Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA >Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 >Fax: (316) 364-4154 >Pager: (316) 364-7234 >E-mail: gadecke@wcnoc.com Gary, Our DateD plug-in will do what you are looking for. Please check out our website with regard to DateD. Virginia Gavin President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 vgavin@digapp.com http://www.digapp.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Nov-1997 15:21:41-GMT,1428;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27481 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:21:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA21134; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:18:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:16:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20960; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:16:27 -0600 Message-ID: <21C01735EF2DD111A8E4006097D17C4B0FE101@EXCHANGE> From: "Gibson, Stephanie" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for November-26-97 [V2 #86] Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:15:27 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ?? Why are so many messages garbled lately? Out of 12 messages, 3 were garbled in this digest alone. stef +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Nov-1997 15:29:37-GMT,1912;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27691 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:29:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA21485; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:25:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:24:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21358; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:24:01 -0600 Message-Id: <199711261524.KAA04930@pear.epix.net> Subject: [PDF] Free Plug-ins Date: Wed, 26 Nov 97 10:33:49 -0500 x-sender: lvincent@mailhost.epix.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Linda Vincent To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, The following are plug-ins for Acrobat Exchange that are now available in both Mac 68K/PPC and Win 95/NT. They are free and can be downloaded at Digital Applications, Inc. web site at http://www.DigApp.com. ShowBookmarks - this plug-in will display the bookmark pane if the PDF file contains bookmarks and the bookmarks pane is not displayed. TriState - Replaces the three page mode buttons and the three zoom buttons in the Acrobat toolbar with single TriState buttons.TriState thus reduces the number of icons on the Acrobat toolbar by four. ReversePages - Reverses the order of all the pages in a document. Have a good day, +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Nov-1997 16:18:31-GMT,2539;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28984 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:18:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA23652; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:15:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:13:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23437; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:13:00 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCFA85.E9321860.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for November-26-97 [V2 #86] Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 16:10:59 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The main cause of messages looking unreadable is attachments. Although deliberately sending attachments to a mailing list is obviously daft, some mail programs will attach extra information - like copies of the message in HTML or RTF format. My mailer does it by default - and I've managed to send attachments a couple of times lately. Whoops. Reading the messages one at a time is quite acceptable - you just ignore the attachment icon or whatever. When compiled into a digest the attachments just mess things up. I actually found it was quicker to read the individual messages than the digest - so I gave the digest up. It's certainly easier to reply to individual messages. Other causes of annoyance are quoting the whole of long messages, resulting in the appearance that messages are being repeated again and again. Again, many mailers do this automatically. It's always worth reading through the whole of an outgoing message to make sure it has no more quotes than necessary. Aandi On Wednesday, 26 November, 1997 15:15, Gibson, Stephanie [SMTP:SGibson@qwiz.com] wrote: > Why are so many messages garbled lately? Out of 12 messages, 3 were > garbled in this digest alone. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Nov-1997 16:41:59-GMT,2446;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29599 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:41:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24699; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:39:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:38:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24583; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:38:04 -0600 Message-ID: <347C5F0A.2A7E@fox.nstn.ca> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:40:26 -0500 From: Bosko Loncarevic Organization: Pinetree Information Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: Disabling SAVE AS ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 WE have developed a CD-ROM with pdf files to be served over intranet. The client does not wish the readers to be able to save the files on their local computers. This is not a problem using ACROBAT READER since it does not have SAVE function in the FILE Menu. However, if the local computer has an ACROBAT EXCHANGE and this loads when a pdf file is called then the file can be saved using SAVE AS ... (If the security is put on the file when created then SAVE is greyed out in Exchange > File Menu but SAVE AS ... is not. Does not make sense but ...). Is there a way of setting security on a file so that it can not be saved under any cercumstances or is there a way to force a file to use READER rather than EXCHANGE when both are present on the local computer ? -- bdl ==================================================== Dr. Bosko Loncarevic, P. Eng. - PINETREE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY e-mail: pitech@fox.nstn.ca Web site: http://fox.nstn.ca/~pitech/ Phone: 902-468-3392 Fax: 902-468-6865 snail-mail: Torrington Place, Suite 302 780 Windmill Road, DARTMOUTH, NS, B3B 1T3 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Nov-1997 16:42:40-GMT,6008;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29605 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:42:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24612; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:38:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:36:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24484; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:36:06 -0600 Message-ID: Date: 26 Nov 1997 17:43:09 +0100 From: "Florian S§l" Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November- To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; Name="Message Body" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA24481 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 sorry, but the mail with the topics listed is *not* completely readable. the word-document I received as attachment unfortunately contains a lot of funny characters making it impossible to read all topics. Florian Suessl fsuessl@citysatz.de -------------------------------------- Date: 26.11.1997 16:04 Uhr To: Florian Süßl From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com !!! Original message was too large. !!! !!! It is contained in the enclosure whose name !!! is the same as the subject of this message. !!! !!! A preview of the message follows: pdf-digest Wednesday, November 26 1997 Volume 02 : Number 086 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- There are 12 messages totalling 1023 lines in this issue. Topics of the Day: 1. RE: [PDF] creating pdf in VB/VBScript/ASP 2. RE: [PDF] Graphic swelling file size 3. [PDF] Bleeds, Crackerjack and Quite Imposing 4. RE: [PDF] Bleeds, Crackerjack and Quite Imposing 5. [PDF] Conversion of MS Word documents to PDF 6. Re: [PDF] Conversion of MS Word documents to PDF 7. Re: [PDF] Crackerjack and color separations 8. Re: [PDF] Bleeds, Crackerjack and Quite Imposing 9. [PDF] Banner printing 10. RE: [PDF] Banner printing 11. [PDF] ..problem reading this document(15) 12. Re: [PDF] Banner printing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:57:59 -0000 From: Dave Cornwell Subject: RE: [PDF] creating pdf in VB/VBScript/ASP - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCF981.61923340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Our PDFfusion product will allow you to "database publish" meta data = into a PDF "template". It is already being used for interactive web = based publishing in a couple of pilot projects. Please check out our web site at: www.docctrl.com drc - --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com - -----Original Message----- From: Marc Esser [SMTP:esser@inetworld.net] Sent: Monday, November 24, 1997 11:12 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] creating pdf in VB/VBScript/ASP Hi,=20 does anybody have experience with creating PDF-files on the fly from = within Active Server Pages or Visual Basic or VB script? We have = ODBC-data here and want to render it on the fly for a website project. = For HTML and XLS it works already... TIA and Regards, Marc - -------------------------------------------------------- Marc Esser, M.S. 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Everything went fine. Part of the PS code I used is listed at the end of this message. Today I started using Acrobat Distiller 3.0 and to my surprise a lot of bookmarks were gone. In fact bookmarks with alength longer than 128 characters were gone. I know this limit exists for interactive creation of bookmarks in Exchange. In the PDFmark reference m,anual however it is stated (page 12): " Title has a maximum length of 65,535 charachters" Has anyone got a clue what goes wrong ? Thanks. ************ START CODE ******************************************************* [/PageMode /UseOutlines /Page 1 /DOCVIEW pdfmark [/Count -12 /Page 12 /Title (F.1 subsection 1 blah blah blah) /OUT pdfmark ************ END CODE ********************************************************* Lex Jansen NV Organon +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Nov-1997 17:50:59-GMT,3089;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01405 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:50:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26473; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:19:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:17:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA26376; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:17:25 -0600 Message-ID: <347C59B3.74C9@amfam.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:17:39 -0600 From: "Dan O'Connor" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Disabling SAVE AS ... References: <347C5F0A.2A7E@fox.nstn.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Bosko Loncarevic wrote: > > WE have developed a CD-ROM with pdf files to be served over intranet. > The client does not wish the readers to be able to save the files on > their local computers. This is not a problem using ACROBAT READER since > it does not have SAVE function in the FILE Menu. However, if the local > computer has an ACROBAT EXCHANGE and this loads when a pdf file is > called then the file can be saved using SAVE AS ... (If the security is > put on the file when created then SAVE is greyed out in Exchange > File > Menu but SAVE AS ... is not. Does not make sense but ...). > Is there a way of setting security on a file so that it can not be > saved under any cercumstances or is there a way to force a file to use > READER rather than EXCHANGE when both are present on the local computer > ? > > -- bdl > ==================================================== > Dr. Bosko Loncarevic, P. Eng. - > PINETREE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY > e-mail: pitech@fox.nstn.ca > Web site: http://fox.nstn.ca/~pitech/ > Phone: 902-468-3392 Fax: 902-468-6865 > snail-mail: Torrington Place, Suite 302 > 780 Windmill Road, DARTMOUTH, NS, B3B 1T3 > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ While we're on the subject of security . . . I need to be able to set my security "do not allow changes" but to allow the user to fill the fields! Is there a combination of security options that would protect my "static design" but allow for fill? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Nov-1997 19:10:31-GMT,2905;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03522 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:10:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA30100; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:40:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:37:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29907; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:37:39 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCFA9A.53A410E0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Disabling SAVE AS ... Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:35:19 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, 26 November, 1997 17:40, Bosko Loncarevic [SMTP:pitech@fox.nstn.ca] wrote: > > WE have developed a CD-ROM with pdf files to be served over intranet. > The client does not wish the readers to be able to save the files on > their local computers. This is not a problem using ACROBAT READER since > it does not have SAVE function in the FILE Menu. However, if the local > computer has an ACROBAT EXCHANGE and this loads when a pdf file is > called then the file can be saved using SAVE AS ... (If the security is > put on the file when created then SAVE is greyed out in Exchange > File > Menu but SAVE AS ... is not. Does not make sense but ...). > Is there a way of setting security on a file so that it can not be > saved under any cercumstances or is there a way to force a file to use > READER rather than EXCHANGE when both are present on the local computer I can see that what you are asking for is desirable, but it would be useless. So long as the file is available on the intranet, it can be saved to the user's hard disk. This is extremely simple - for instance, just remove the Acrobat plug-in from netscape. Indeed, if the user is loading Exchange in its own Window, rather than displaying in the web browser, that already implies there is a copy of the PDF file on your hard disk somewhere, and it wouldn't be rocket science to discover where, and keep a copy. Even without this, web protocols are extremely simple, and it is compatively easy to capture any HTTP object using a telnet session, though this is beyond most users. Aandi+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Nov-1997 22:46:34-GMT,3302;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08593 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:46:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA06564; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:55:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:50:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA06247; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:50:25 -0600 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:48:20 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick West To: Bosko Loncarevic cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Disabling SAVE AS ... In-Reply-To: <347C5F0A.2A7E@fox.nstn.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Over the internet? I'm sory but your problem is bigger then you know. So what that reader doesn't have a save as menu item. from my browser I can save it to hd with no problem. In fact I just checked on my laptop's netscape cache and found a couple of .pdf files. On Wed, 26 Nov 1997, Bosko Loncarevic wrote: > > WE have developed a CD-ROM with pdf files to be served over intranet. > The client does not wish the readers to be able to save the files on > their local computers. This is not a problem using ACROBAT READER since > it does not have SAVE function in the FILE Menu. However, if the local > computer has an ACROBAT EXCHANGE and this loads when a pdf file is > called then the file can be saved using SAVE AS ... (If the security is > put on the file when created then SAVE is greyed out in Exchange > File > Menu but SAVE AS ... is not. Does not make sense but ...). > Is there a way of setting security on a file so that it can not be > saved under any cercumstances or is there a way to force a file to use > READER rather than EXCHANGE when both are present on the local computer > ? > > -- bdl > ==================================================== > Dr. Bosko Loncarevic, P. Eng. - > PINETREE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY > e-mail: pitech@fox.nstn.ca > Web site: http://fox.nstn.ca/~pitech/ > Phone: 902-468-3392 Fax: 902-468-6865 > snail-mail: Torrington Place, Suite 302 > 780 Windmill Road, DARTMOUTH, NS, B3B 1T3 > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Patrick West ,using Pine 3.96 PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Nov-1997 23:56:20-GMT,1409;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10095 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 16:56:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA10550; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:40:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:38:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA10449; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:38:42 -0600 From: Wingers@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:38:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971126183856_-1105406898@mrin52.mail.aol.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF to HTML Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone have any information on converting a fairly lengthy and complex (many photos, tables, PS graphics, etc.) PDF to HTML without stripping out all of the graphics, and not having to go back and dehyphenate all the hyphenatec words? Roy Faircloth Wingers Publishing +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Nov-1997 3:53:38-GMT,8968;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14478 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 20:53:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA17256; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:42:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:39:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA17125; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:39:56 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BCFA85.E9321860.quite@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Source: World HQ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:41:01 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com From: "Loren R. Needles" Subject: [PDF] Attachments+Garbled Txt in Digests <=> WINMAIL.DAT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 11/26/97, Aandi Inston responded to Stephanie Gibson's lament about garbled messages {RE: pdf-digest for November-26-97 [V2 #86]}: >The main cause of messages looking unreadable is attachments. Although >deliberately sending attachments to a mailing list is obviously daft, some >mail programs will attach extra information - like copies of the message >in HTML or RTF format. My mailer does it by default - and I've managed to >send attachments a couple of times lately. Whoops. > >Reading the messages one at a time is quite acceptable - you just ignore >the attachment icon or whatever. When compiled into a digest the attachments just >mess things up. I actually found it was quicker to read the individual >messages than the digest - so I gave the digest up. It's certainly easier >to reply to individual messages. > The RTF attachments or suffixed garbled text seems mostly to be a problem created by our dear Microsoft. Thoughtful users of the offending software defaults can adjust their defaults to eliminate the problem by following the MS instructions detailed below. The source is ... . Ummm, be pati ent and try to ignore the feeling you are reading instructions for a nuclear reactor shutdown ... :-( Loren PS: MS grammar has been corrected and the [bracketed text are editorial comments I could not resist] Oh, yes. I agree with Aandi, digests offer little benefit, particularly if you can sort and send inbound messages to separate topical mail boxes. Lrn _____________________________________ Preventing WINMAIL.DAT Sent to Internet Users ______________________________________ Last reviewed: November 13, 1997 Article ID: Q138053 The information in this article applies to: Microsoft Exchange Server, version 4.0 Microsoft Exchange Window 3.x client, version 4.0 Microsoft Exchange Window 95 client, version 4.0 Microsoft Exchange Window NT client, version 4.0 Microsoft Outlook Windows 95 client, versions 8.00, 8.01, 8.02, and 8.03 Microsoft Outlook Windows NT client, versions 8.00, 8.01, 8.02, and 8.03 SUMMARY When you send e-mail via the Internet from a Microsoft Exchange Windows or Outlook client, a file attachment called WINMAIL.DAT is [automatically] added to the message. This attachment contains Microsoft Exchange rich-text information for the message being sent. The WINMAIL.DAT file may not be useful to non-Microsoft Exchange recipients. [Not only is it "not useful", it is plain confusing and aggravating to virtually all e-mail recipients who do not use the MS Software required to take advantage of this feature ... that happens to be the majority of the human population!] The information in the WINMAIL.DAT file may [probably will] appear on the receiving end as binary information at the end of the mail message. [In other words, gibberish or garbage may appear at the end of the e-mail message ... if you are using Eudora, the WINMAIL.DAT file usually appears as an attachment.] This article describes how to prevent sending the WINMAIL.DAT attachment to Internet users [e-mail recipients] when you are using the Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Connector (IMC). [That is to say that the default option for winmail.dat is on. And, you must invest time to learn how to turn it off] MORE INFORMATION You can control whether or not to send rich-text format in any one of the following ways: 1.Creating Custom Recipients When the administrator creates a custom recipient using the Microsoft Exchange Administrator program, clear the "Always Send To This Recipient In Microsoft Exchange Rich-Text Format" check box. 2.Modifying Existing Microsoft Exchange and Custom Recipients The administrator can modify an existing user account (Microsoft Exchange user or custom recipient) to not send rich-text format information, by clearing the MAPI Recipient check box in the Advanced property page of the recipient's properties. You can view the recipient's properties by selecting the recipient name and then choosing Properties from the File menu. 3.Addresses in the Personal Address Book The user can modify the Internet addresses in a their personal address book not to send rich-text information by clearing the "Always Send To This Recipient In Microsoft Exchange Rich-Text Format" check box in the SMTP - Address property page of the Internet address in the PAB. To obtain the properties of an entry in a PAB, select the entry and choose Properties from the File menu. 4.Configuring the Internet Mail Connector (IMC) The administrator can configure the IMC to send or not to send rich-text information by following the steps below: a. Bring up the properties of the Internet Mail Connector. b. Select the General property page. The Send Microsoft Exchange Rich Text list box controls the sending of rich-text data. There are three values to choose from: - If the value is set to User, the recipient properties are used to determine whether or not to send rich-text information. - If the value is set to Always, rich-text information is always sent, regardless of the recipient properties. - If the value is set to Never, rich-text information is never sent. You can also configure whether or not to send rich-text information on a per-domain basis. To define e-mail domains and the message settings for that domain, click the E-Mail Domain button. 5.One-Off Addressing You can send e-mail to an Internet user from an Exchange or Outlook client, using One-Off addressing. One-Off addressing allows sending a message to addresses that are not in the Personal Address Book, the Global Address List, or in any recipient containers. Depending on the type of the One-Off address used, rich-text information is or is not sent with the message: a. Rich-Text Information is Sent: If the One-Off address has the following format, rich-text information is sent with the message: [SMTP:] where SMTP Address is any valid SMTP address, for example: user@domain.com [last set of brackets inserted by MS] To verify that rich-text information is sent: 1) Select the Check Names command from the Tools menu after typing the address in the above format. This should display the SMTP address without the "SMTP:." The name should be underlined. 2) Bring up the Properties of the address by double clicking it. If the option "Always send to this recipient in Microsoft Exchange rich-text format" is checked indicating that rich-text information (the WINMAIL.DAT file) is sent along with the message. b. Rich-Text Information is Not Sent: If you use a One-Off address and you do not want to send rich-text information to the recipient, the address should have the following format: where SMTP Address is any valid SMTP Address, for example: user@domain.com NOTE: Unlike the address in step 5.a. above, the SMTP Address is not proceeded by "SMTP:" and the address is not enclosed in square brackets. If you click the Check Names command and then get the properties of the address, you can see that the rich-text option is not selected. However, no matter what option is selected for the address of the recipient, the IMC settings determine whether or not rich-text information is transmitted. If the IMC is set to never send rich-text data, then even if the properties of the recipient address have the rich-text option selected, no rich-text is transmitted. If the IMC has separate settings for individual domains, then the settings for those domains takes precedence for all messages addressed to users in those domains. -end- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Nov-1997 8:47:52-GMT,3020;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA19727 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 01:47:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA23515; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:30:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:28:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA23374; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:28:05 -0600 Message-Id: <199711270828.JAA01745@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Disabling SAVE AS ... Date: Thu, 27 Nov 97 09:28:49 +0100 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >The client does not wish the readers to be able to save the files on >their local computers. This is not a problem using ACROBAT READER since >it does not have SAVE function in the FILE Menu. Bosko, you've missed the fact that it's a simple game to bypass the fact that a browser download the PDF file and show it directly in its window: just keep clicked (Mac) or righ-click (Win) on the file link and you'll be able to "Save As" the file. Another way is to configure the browser without the PDFviewer plug-in and the file would be saved on disk. Or as last option, the browser cache will keep an exact copy of the PDF, maybe with a different name, but with exact content! >However, if the local >computer has an ACROBAT EXCHANGE and this loads when a pdf file is >called then the file can be saved using SAVE AS ... (If the security is >put on the file when created then SAVE is greyed out in Exchange > File >Menu but SAVE AS ... is not. Does not make sense but ...). This is not fully true. Security on Acrobat lets you save the file even if permissions were denied, you just should have the permissions to do some changes that would trigger a Save request. Save as is always active as you could need to optimize the file or change the security options without need to have changed the file content. But if the file is secured, you need to know the authorization (password) to change securities, or the file will be saved with the same permissions. Save as permission is part of the standard (PDF 1.2) even it is not implemented in the standard viewer. You can look at our SECURE-it system that allow selective setting of the "SaveAs" permission too, if you find it useful. Look at http://www.datanet.it/Acrobat.htm Greetings Andrea Valle Datanet Srl +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Nov-1997 10:19:29-GMT,2250;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21443 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 03:19:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA25919; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 04:14:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 27 Nov 1997 04:11:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA25829; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 04:11:21 -0600 From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to HTML Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:51:01 +0100 Message-ID: <01bcfb19$f8210900$0100007f@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Do you konw: Iceni Technology Ltd: http://www.iceni.com Franck Filhoulaud -----Message d'origine----- De : Wingers@aol.com À : pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date : jeudi 27 novembre 1997 00:44 Objet : [PDF] PDF to HTML > >Does anyone have any information on converting a fairly lengthy and complex >(many photos, tables, PS graphics, etc.) PDF to HTML without stripping out >all of the graphics, and not having to go back and dehyphenate all the >hyphenatec words? > >Roy Faircloth >Wingers Publishing >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Nov-1997 18:22:09-GMT,1974;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29329 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:22:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA32245; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:07:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:05:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA32117; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:05:06 -0600 From: Tom_Domen@pmbc.be X-Lotus-FromDomain: PMBC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:03:33 +0200 Subject: [PDF] PDF-Art-pro Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom_domen@PMBC.be How to make a PDF from an Artpro system? What I want to obtain, is a PDF from an illustrator file, wich visualizes the artwork in the same way as it is printed on the offset press. When you make artwork for prepress in illustrator and you are working with rasters and PMScolours there is a problem that you can't really see what will be printed in the end. The raster will cover the full colour, while, when it is printed, the raster will be transparant. With the Artpro system, there is a possibility to view and print (to the printer) the artwork on the same way as it is printed on the offset press. My question is; is it possible to make a PDF from an Artpro system, without loosing the benefit of the transparant layers from the Artpro system? Thanks +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Nov-1997 18:58:27-GMT,2382;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29937 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:58:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA00521; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:44:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:41:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA00435; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:41:51 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCFB42.6FCC3B00.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF-Art-pro Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:40:38 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, 27 November, 1997 13:04, Tom_Domen@pmbc.be [SMTP:Tom_Domen@pmbc.be] wrote: > > What I want to obtain, is a PDF from an illustrator file, wich visualizes > the artwork in the same way as it is printed on the offset press. > When you make artwork for prepress in illustrator and you are working with > rasters and PMScolours there is a problem that you can't really see what > will be printed in the end. The raster will cover the full colour, while, > when it is printed, the raster will be transparant. With the Artpro > system, there is a possibility to view and print (to the printer) the > artwork on the same way as it is printed on the offset press. > My question is; is it possible to make a PDF from an Artpro system, without > loosing the benefit of the transparant layers from the Artpro system? I don't know about ArtPro, but these symptoms usually mean you are using PDFWriter, when an application will only work properly when used with Distiller. That's true of QuarkXPress, Illustrator, and anything using EPS graphics. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Nov-1997 20:07:51-GMT,1794;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01153 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:07:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02710; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:52:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:50:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02585; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:50:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199711271550.QAA00875@drno.prac.cs.utwente.nl> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Arnoud Jippes" Organization: University of Twente To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 16:57:25 +0000 Subject: [PDF] ?Signing PDF files In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'd like to sign our PDF files to ensure authenticity, but can't find such a option with the standard Acrobat package. Anyone? (needs to be automated on a UNIX platform, so Exchange4Win plugin won't work) Thanks, Arnoud. ------------------------------- Arnoud G. Jippes University of Twente Library/IT Postbus 217, 7500 AE, Enschede tel: +31-534894116, fax: +31-534351805 email: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Nov-1997 20:31:17-GMT,2892;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01575 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:31:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03814; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:16:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:15:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03717; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:15:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199711271615.IAA16039@db.emuni.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "David M. Davisson" Organization: Pacific Financial Printing To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:17:00 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] UNIX color problem In-reply-to: <199711061711.JAA11443@jaimito.net.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 6 Nov 97 at 9:11, Jay Haines wrote: > > Hello Emerge, > > My name is Jay Haines. I work in a Tech Pubs department and we produce our > documentation on CD. I have a problem I would like to solve and maybe you > could help or direct me to the right source. Problem: I build the art for > the document interface pages in Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator on my Mac. I > import them into Framemaker5 and we Distill it. We use Acrobat because our > customers view the documentation on: Mac., PC, and UNIX. The art looks fine > on the Mac and PC but the UNIX side really dithers the art and it looks > pretty bad. Is there anything I can do to stop that from happening? I > already use a web color palette to more closely conform to the UNIX palette > but don't know what else to do. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, I have experienced similar problems with graphics in PDFs in Unix readers. Adobe Illustrator files when distill through embedding or directly will not properly display in Unix reader. I have one example of a map created in Illustrator with many multiple layers that will incorrectly map the bottom layers to the top, but the same PDF works fine in the 95 and Mac readers. My workaround has been to convert all graphics to bitmaps before distilling if they have to be used in Unix readers. ---------- David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 4020 Campbell Avenue Menlo Park, CA 94025 (415) 328-1500 davisson@pfp.net +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Nov-1997 20:59:24-GMT,1525;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02017 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:59:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA04752; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:45:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:43:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04652; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:43:33 -0600 Message-Id: <199711271643.RAA03720@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] ?Signing PDF files Date: Thu, 27 Nov 97 17:43:58 +0100 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I'd like to sign our PDF files to ensure authenticity, but can't >find such a option with the standard Acrobat package. Which kind of signature you're interested in? Visible from a user interface? With or without a plug-in? Agree with secured file or not? Greetings Andrea Valle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Nov-1997 21:28:59-GMT,6278;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02531 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:28:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07723; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:18:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:15:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07634; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:15:39 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCFB60.B276E5E0@Rockhse2.docctrl.com> From: Dave Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] ?Signing PDF files Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 18:11:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCFB60.B276E5E0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCFB60.B276E5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit check out www.penop.com drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: Arnoud Jippes [SMTP:webdoc@ub.utwente.nl] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 1997 4:57 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] ?Signing PDF files I'd like to sign our PDF files to ensure authenticity, but can't find such a option with the standard Acrobat package. Anyone? (needs to be automated on a UNIX platform, so Exchange4Win plugin won't work) Thanks, Arnoud. ------------------------------- Arnoud G. 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Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:37:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA11503; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:38:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:35:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA11398; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:35:21 -0600 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:36:08 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick West To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: Bosko Loncarevic Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Disabling SAVE AS ... In-Reply-To: <199711270828.JAA01745@master.datanet.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is it possible to password protect a PDF file on the webserver then have the webserver provide the password while on line? What I'm thinking is is the file when loaded in to Acrobat asks for a password .. If connected to webserver password passed to acrobat by server acrobat reads file. if not connected to webserver no password acrobat unable to read pdf. User reconnects to webserver and tries to load pdf password passed to acrobat by server acrobat reads file. =================== Patrick West ,using Pine 3.96 PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Nov-1997 0:44:00-GMT,2802;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05714 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:43:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA16948; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 18:41:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 27 Nov 1997 18:37:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA16824; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 18:37:28 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 18:44:33 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Graeme Armitage Subject: [PDF] Presentations Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have recently put a presentation together containing about 18 diffrent linked pdf files varing between 200k to 4 megs my clint running 133 mhz pc with 30 megs of ram windows 95, found his computer would come to a grinding halt and links fail to work after navigating for some time around the presentation None of the files stay open each closes once it has been exited Has anyone any idea how to prevent this Some of the larger files are capable of being reduced in size significantly but some advice as how to get the best results would be usefull The bigger files are uncompressed 72 dpi pict images that contain a photographic logo the text on this logo is oblitterated when the high JPEG compression is used and as the end use of the product is as somthing that is to be projected through a lite pro we are keen to keep the 24 bit colour and not have to go to a 256 colour giff. I have found a half way house of sorts on the simpler backgrounds I have been able to use the JPEG compressed images then to use a feild to put an uncompressed version of the image over the type area which has worked fairly well but this is not practicle on all of the backgrounds. Any suggestion would be helpfull Regards Graeme Armitage Creative Director Telephone 0161 941 4288 Quest Design Facimile 0161 941 2444 Atlantic street Email graeme@quest-design.co.uk Altrincham Cheshire Sites Designed and maintained WA14 5DH http://www.property-realestate-uk.com United Kingdom +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Nov-1997 8:57:57-GMT,3212;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13811 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 01:57:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA28691; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 02:54:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 28 Nov 1997 02:51:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA28597; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 02:51:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199711280851.JAA05885@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Disabling SAVE AS ... Date: Fri, 28 Nov 97 09:52:01 +0100 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Is it possible to password protect a PDF file on the webserver then have >the webserver provide the password while on line? > >What I'm thinking is is the file when loaded in to Acrobat asks for a >password .. > >If connected to webserver > password passed to acrobat by server > acrobat reads file. > >if not connected to webserver > no password > acrobat unable to read pdf. > >User reconnects to webserver and tries to load pdf > password passed to acrobat by server > acrobat reads file. Your idea could be an issue of improvement of our SECURE-it system. In effect I've already received a feed-back to introduce a new permission that could force a secured PDF file to be opened from Reader *only*, from Exchange *only* or free from both viewers. We could add another interesting permission, that is to force the user opening the PDF file inside a browser and not directly. This would prevent users from using the PDF file with the full options given by the standard Acrobat viewers, but only with the few ones implemented in the PDFviewer "Netscape plug-in" interface. Hey: don't forget that the user could always download the file and open it locally in the browser. The SECURE-it system is not dependent from direct password typing, so the issue to have free "reopen" is a normal behaviour. The solution to have the web server giving the Acrobat viewer the authorization data to open the file is an interesting idea we're already managing: this will be the subject of a complete different development for specific web serving of PDF files. This way a PDF file wouldn't be useful if downloaded and open locally even with the right plug-in and inside the browser, because the authorization data (password) needed to open it can come from an on-line link to the right web server only. Please give us any other suggestion about PDF security issues you wellcome to see. Greetings, Andrea Valle Datanet http://www.datanet.it/Acrobat.htm +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Nov-1997 9:37:40-GMT,6986;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14592 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 02:37:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA29566; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 03:34:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 28 Nov 1997 03:31:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA29446; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 03:31:56 -0600 Message-ID: <01BCFBE0.BB70A8E0@Rockhse2.docctrl.com> From: Dave Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Disabling SAVE AS ... Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 08:06:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCFBE0.BB784A00" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCFBE0.BB784A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Only with a plug-in and you would have to take advice as to whether it could be a Reader plug-in or would require Excahnge from ADA. drc --- David Cornwell, Sales Director Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Gwent, NP6 6YU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1291 641715 (direct); USA: 1-888-240-1752 fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641817 Document Systems Specialists www.docctrl.com -----Original Message----- From: Patrick West [SMTP:pccare@teleport.com] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 1997 8:36 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: Bosko Loncarevic Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Disabling SAVE AS ... Is it possible to password protect a PDF file on the webserver then have the webserver provide the password while on line? What I'm thinking is is the file when loaded in to Acrobat asks for a password .. If connected to webserver password passed to acrobat by server acrobat reads file. if not connected to webserver no password acrobat unable to read pdf. 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by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16439 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:31:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA32246; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:28:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:25:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA32154; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:25:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199711281126.MAA03865@mb05.swip.net> From: "Ulf" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Presentations Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:24:51 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 have a look in acroread.ini CloseAllOnOpen=1 Ulf ---------- > From: Graeme Armitage > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Presentations > Date: den 28 november 1997 01.44 > > > I have recently put a presentation together containing about 18 diffrent > linked pdf files > varing between 200k to 4 megs my clint running 133 mhz pc with 30 megs of > ram windows 95, found his computer would come to a grinding halt and > links fail to work after navigating for some time around the presentation > > None of the files stay open each closes once it has been exited > > Has anyone any idea how to prevent this > > Some of the larger files are capable of being reduced in size > significantly but some advice as how to get the best results would be > usefull > > The bigger files are uncompressed 72 dpi pict images that contain a > photographic logo the text on this logo is oblitterated when the high > JPEG compression is used and as the end use of the product is as > somthing that is to be projected through a lite pro we are keen to keep > the 24 bit colour and not have to go to a 256 colour giff. > > I have found a half way house of sorts on the simpler backgrounds I have > been able to use the JPEG compressed images then to use a feild to put an > uncompressed version of the image over the type area which has worked > fairly well but this is not practicle on all of the backgrounds. > > > Any suggestion would be helpfull > > > > > Regards > > Graeme Armitage > Creative Director Telephone 0161 941 4288 > Quest Design Facimile 0161 941 2444 > Atlantic street Email graeme@quest-design.co.uk > Altrincham > Cheshire Sites Designed and maintained > WA14 5DH http://www.property-realestate-uk.com > United Kingdom > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Nov-1997 13:04:21-GMT,2823;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17882 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 06:04:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA01921; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:01:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 28 Nov 1997 06:58:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA01778; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 06:58:09 -0600 Message-Id: <199711281029.LAA00702@drno.prac.cs.utwente.nl> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Arnoud Jippes" Organization: University of Twente To: Andrea Valle Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:35:51 +0000 Subject: Re: [PDF] ?Signing PDF files CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Dave Cornwell In-reply-to: <199711271643.RAA03720@master.datanet.it> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >I'd like to sign our PDF files to ensure authenticity, but can't > >find such a option with the standard Acrobat package. > Which kind of signature you're interested in? > Visible from a user interface? > With or without a plug-in? > Agree with secured file or not? The PenOp (www.penop.com) software suggested by Dave comes close, but they don't have a UNIX version, so I can't automate it. The verify plug-in for Acrobat is free, but it looks like you'll still need a verify license to use it. I don't think readers of our files are going to buy a license (we serve public documents). Paying for the signing software by us is no problem, but verification by the readers should be free. What do you mean with secured file? Our documents are secured against changes with a Exchange password, but we all know that's not a strong authenticity insurance. When the documents are signed, I I'll remove the Exchange password because of the problems with non-Adobe PDF readers. A PGP implementation would be nice. Maybe I should wait for a signing standard (Adobe?). The original documents are always available on our server (local authenticity will be protected with CRC check)... Regards, Arnoud. ------------------------------- Arnoud G. Jippes University of Twente Library/IT Postbus 217, 7500 AE, Enschede tel: +31-534894116, fax: +31-534351805 email: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Nov-1997 13:19:57-GMT,1379;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18097 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 06:19:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA02409; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:15:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:13:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA02302; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:13:13 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:20:24 -0600 To: From: "Nick Parker" Subject: [PDF] Separating PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anybody know of a utility for colour separating PDF files so that they can be sent to a PostScript RIP (level2) ? Nick Parker Berger-Levrault, France +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Nov-1997 14:06:39-GMT,2346;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18822 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:06:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA03862; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 08:03:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:59:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA03667; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:59:47 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19971128160002.006c1144@notes.ctl.com.cy> X-Sender: claire@notes.ctl.com.cy X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:00:02 +0200 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Claire Kapiri Subject: [PDF] Ventura index in PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I am distilling a number of documents from Ventura 5 on windows 95 using Distiller 3.0. Before distilling I renumber, and regenerate the TOC and Index twice. I want the bookmarks in the final PDF to be displayed so that TOC and index enteries reflect the levels defined in the printed document. This happend beautifully with the TOC so that on opening the PDF the only bookmark displayed is "Contents". Users then click on the triangle to access the other entris. With the index all entries, main or sub entries, have bookmarks displayed at the same level. I can change then in Excghange but would prefer to keep as much editing work confined to the original document as possible. (I have 40 or so 600 page manuals to distill). Can anyone suggest a way to edit the Ventura document so that Distiller creates index entries with the correct hierarchy? Many thanks in advance. Regards Claire Claire Kapiri Technical Writer Card Tech Limited Nicosia Cyprus Tel: +357 2 376671 Fax: +357 2 377412 Email: claire@ctl.com.cy +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Nov-1997 18:30:26-GMT,1660;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23406 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:30:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11634; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:26:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:20:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11287; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:20:32 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971128102350.009c0100@Direct.CA> X-Sender: jgoyan#district.west-van.bc.ca@Direct.CA X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 10:23:50 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Colin Hibbard Subject: Re: [PDF] Separating PDF files In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 07:20 AM 11/28/97 -0600, you wrote: > >Does anybody know of a utility for colour separating PDF files so that they >can be sent to a PostScript RIP (level2) ? > >Nick Parker >Berger-Levrault, France > Try Lantana's Crackerjack. I've only read about so don't quote me. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Nov-1997 20:35:05-GMT,3758;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25745 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:35:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA15460; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:30:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:27:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15341; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:27:15 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 04:20:20 -0500 From: Theresa Clay Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <85256555.004E3C0F.00@ctc2.ap.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 aaron, i work with newspapers that receive composite color advertisements in pdf form. to generate separations, they either use the plugin described below (crackerjack) or they export the pdf to an eps file and import that file into a page layout app like, Quark, Pagemaker or Multi-ad Creator. They use the page layout app to generate their separations. This works especially well for sites that employ a paginated workflow. Theresa Clay The Associated Press/AdSEND From: LinkService on 11/20/97 08:35 AM GMT Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Theresa Clay/TheAP) Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Color Separations from PDF files Dear Aaron, you can separate PDF files from ACROBAT EXCHANGE using CRACKERJACK, a plug-in by Lantana Corporation. The URL is: www.lantanarips.com Regards, Vainer Gilioli LinkService Srl At 08.11 19/11/97 -0800, you wrote: > >OK, I have looked in various sources for this info, and I haven't found it. >Since it seems like other people have referred to it, I assume it can be >done, and fairly easily: > >I work in a prepress/desktop publishing environment, and we have a >Linotronic that we send files to, both paper and film. We generally output >from the main DP programs (Quark/PageMaker), or from pre-PostScripted files. > >Is there a way to print actual color separations from a PDF file? I don't >see the option from the Adobe Reader. Is there another program to use? > > > >Aaron Borovoy >UCSD Publications Office (Prepress) >University of California, San Diego >aborovoy@ucsd.edu > >(619) 534-6840 (voice) (619) 534-0866 (FAX) > > >*** I support domestic partnership benefits for University of California >faculty, staff, and employees. If you do also, please show your support by >adding this block of text to the bottom of your standard email signature. >*** > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Nov-1997 20:39:36-GMT,2235;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25834 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:39:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA15671; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:35:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:33:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15519; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:33:05 -0600 Message-Id: <199711282033.NAA13992@sportsurf.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Presentations Date: Fri, 28 Nov 97 16:43:57 -0000 x-sender: mark@sportsurf.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Mark Rauterkus To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, >Some of the larger files are capable of being reduced in size >significantly but some advice as how to get the best results would be >usefull Repeated distilling seems to work well to reduce file size on some files. Try it out. Start with a .PDF file. Then, print the PDF to postscript. Then, run distiller on the PDF file and make a new .PDF (often smaller than the first one). Or, you can try to print the PDF file to the Acrobat printer -- to make a new PDF -- but that might not work nearly as well. Of course, "compress" the files too. That can make for some shrinkage. Of course, use 3.01 and not 3.0. -------------- Mark Rauterkus, Publisher, S.S.S. http://www.sportsurf.net mrauterkus@sportsurf.net http://www.SportSurf.Net/FootNotes FootNotes: Mac E-book authoring and distribution environment with built-in multi-media, lan, web, internet and e-mail capabilities. -------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+