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On Thursday, 1 January, 1998 01:48, Robert Elliott [SMTP:opie@voicenet.com] wrote:
> This might be a little elementary but, did you put it on your site as a
> downloadable file? If this is the case then you should zip-it.
> 
> >> I recently converted several 4-page newsletters from Publisher to
> >> Acrobat by sending the file to the PDFwriter. The resulting file is
> >> 1.3MB and it takes about 6 minutes to download on a 28.8 modem. Is there
> >> any way to make the download time shorter? I also converted a 140 page
> >> report the same way and it takes 2 minutes to load. I am afraid visitors
> >> to our website won't wait that long. The newsletter looks much better on
> >> the website in .PDF than the Publisher document. That is why I want to
> >> use this format. Any tips would be appreciated.

I think I should add my opinion - DON'T ZIP PDF FILES FOR A WEB SITE.

You lose almost all of the convenience of PDF for, usually, a very small saving
because PDF files are already heavily compressed (with techniques like
ZIP and JPEG). A compressed file has to be completely downloaded to view,
then most users have to manually decompress it - a feat actually beyond a
lot of novices.

An optimized PDF file (note to original poster - you ARE optimizing your
files, right?) can be viewed a page at a time.

In this case, with MS publisher, I suspect the problem is background page
graphics. Try dropping them.

Aandi
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>>WAV and AVI aren't cross platform. You need to work with QuickTime, I 
think.

<Biting tongue to prevent crying out "But Adobe _said_ it would work!">How 
about .AU format? I don't think I have a sound editor that can convert .WAV 
to .MOV


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>>Also, Adobe has a neat little Mac. utility that will add the Acrobat
>>resources to PDF files, as well as the Mac icon.

Can you tell me the name and FTP address of this utility? 


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On Thursday, 1 January, 1998 18:08, Larry O'Brien [SMTP:larryo@wco.com] wrote:
> 
> >>WAV and AVI aren't cross platform. You need to work with QuickTime, I 
> think.
> 
> <Biting tongue to prevent crying out "But Adobe _said_ it would work!">How 
> about .AU format? I don't think I have a sound editor that can convert .WAV 
> to .MOV

If Adobe said that externally linked WAV files should work, I may be mistaken,
but I don't think I've ever seen that stated. Nor AVI.

But I don't really understand why you are using external files and pretending your
sounds are movies, since the sound support in Acrobat 3.0 doesn't require that.

Take a look on http://www.quite.com/acrobat/samples/

There is a (Hallowe'en) file with sound in - self contained and, so far as I know,
platform independent (if you don't count Unix - ah well).

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MS Publisher often produces bloated PDF files. Use
Distiller to produce the PDF file, and try being
aggressive on the compression and downsampling to get the
file size down.  Start with medium compression
and the graphics downsampled at 150 dpi ... then be iterative in
increasing the reductions.  There will be a point where quality
is compromised and it may be different for different kinds of
document characteristics.  We save the various compressed
documents, then sometimes pick pages from different documents
to produce the 'optimal' finished file.  (Use the replace page
function or drag and drop the thumbnails between documents
to assemble the final thing.)  In general, treat plain text
pages very aggressively in terms of size reduction; photos
and color graphics aggressively; be cautious about lineart
or bitmapped text.

You should be able to get the page -- even with lots of
color and graphics -- to well under 80k/page (320k for your whole file)
using basic Distiller features.

Optimize the file using the Save As function, then make sure your
server has byteserving enabled.  If you're using an ISP, you
may not find them very knowledgeable on byteserving ... stick
with it until they get it!  Finally, Aandi is right -- don't zip PDF
files!
(You don't get much, but you lose almost everything!)

Hope this helps ....
Deidre Paknad
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Glyphica      Acrobat & Web Publishing Services
http://www.glyphica.com
Mountain View, CA        (650) 428.1800

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> > >> I recently converted several 4-page newsletters from Publisher to
>
> > >> Acrobat by sending the file to the PDFwriter. The resulting file
> is
> > >> 1.3MB and it takes about 6 minutes to download on a 28.8 modem.
> Is there
> > >> any way to make the download time shorter? I also converted a 140
> page
> > >> report the same way and it takes 2 minutes to load. I am afraid
> visitors
> > >> to our website won't wait that long. The newsletter looks much
> better on
> > >> the website in .PDF than the Publisher document. That is why I
> want to
> > >> use this format. Any tips would be appreciated.
>
> I think I should add my opinion - DON'T ZIP PDF FILES FOR A WEB SITE.
>
> You lose almost all of the convenience of PDF for, usually, a very
> small saving
> because PDF files are already heavily compressed (with techniques like
>
> ZIP and JPEG). A compressed file has to be completely downloaded to
> view,
> then most users have to manually decompress it - a feat actually
> beyond a
> lot of novices.
>
> An optimized PDF file (note to original poster - you ARE optimizing
> your
> files, right?) can be viewed a page at a time.
>
> In this case, with MS publisher, I suspect the problem is background
> page
> graphics. Try dropping them.
>



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Hello,

I wrote a macro with word97 basic which open file and launch PDFmaker to
create a PDF document, as a batch process; but memory is satured =
(=3Dempty,
not enough ressources) when this batch processing open the 300 or 310th
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Franck

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I have don almost all of this!
I am using MS access with links to the pdf's
and all of the pdf's are produced with Ventura.
in this way we are amnaging 2000 documents and 8000
spare parts in 13 000 combinations.
It all works fine with acrobat exchange and ms access
all (except the pdf's) innstalled from a CD.
Regards
Ulf
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http://www.dtp-tjanst.se

-----Original Message-----
From: Schiff, Kenny <Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com>
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Date: den 31 december 1997 18:11
Subject: [PDF] PDFs, Databases, Live Links, Pagemaker... Possible?


>
>I want to regularly publish a set of PDF docs on a CD with the Welcome
>Document drawn from a database. Here's what I have in mind:
>
>I want to keep a database of documents (database to be determines, but
>probably Access). The database has a few document information and
>tracking fields for internal use; however, only a couple of fields, and
>some grouping information, will need to display in the Welcome document.
>I would like to generate a report style document. The field to display
>would be Name of document, description. 
>
>Each database record also has a category and subcategory that it belongs
>to. The output from the database should be grouped and subgrouped
>accordingly, with the name of the category and subcategory appearing
>only at the front of a given section.
>
>The best case would be to also include a relative link to the actual PDF
>file in the database.
>
>I would then like this information to be able to dynamically flow into a
>frame within a 640 x 480 screen, that has some graphics in the
>background (some navigation elements). I would also like the category,
>subcategory, and records to pick up style tags upon output. Picking up
>links to the underlying PDF documents would also be great.
>
>I was hoping to use something like Pagemaker to do this, but my intial
>efforts seemed cumbersome and required manual manipulation.
>
>I used to use a product called Database Publisher with Ventura that
>could deliver this kind of output... I'm wondering whether Corel's new
>stuff could handle this.
>
>I'd appreciate anybody's thoughts on this.
>
>Kenny
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Not having yet looked at either yours or the pdfMaker macros it is =
difficult to say. It isn't surprising though - all Office Apps suffer =
from resource/memory problems if you don't take steps to safeguard =
against them (even copying macros between templates or switching the =
icon used for a button can bring any windows machine to its knees).

This isn't the place for a technical discussion but you can do things =
like periodically clearing the UndoList (memory hogging baggage) and =
saving to clear things.=20

If you'd like to take this further outside of this list then please =
E-Mail me.

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Buckden,                 < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/temptin.htm >
Huntingdon,                for information management & Adobe
Cambs.                    Acrobat integration from within your
UK.                           favourite word processor ...

-----Original Message-----
    From: Franck Filhoulaud <Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr>
    To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
    Date: 02 January 1998 02:06
    Subject: [PDF] Batch processing with PDFMAKER
   =20
   =20
    Hello,
   =20
    I wrote a macro with word97 basic which open file and launch =
PDFmaker to
    create a PDF document, as a batch process; but memory is satured =
(=3Dempty,
    not enough ressources) when this batch processing open the 300 or =
310th
    file. Why ?
   =20
    Franck
   =20
    PS: my macro is attached
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Not having yet looked =
at either yours=20
or the pdfMaker macros it is difficult to say. It isn't surprising =
though - all=20
Office Apps suffer from resource/memory problems if you don't take steps =
to=20
safeguard against them (even copying macros between templates or =
switching the=20
icon used for a button can bring any windows machine to its =
knees).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This isn't the place for a technical =
discussion but=20
you can do things like periodically clearing the UndoList (memory =
hogging=20
baggage) and saving to clear things. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you'd like to take this further =
outside of this=20
list then please E-Mail me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Buckden,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt; <A=20
href=3D"http://www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/temptin.htm">www.nplum.demon=
.co.uk/temptin/temptin.htm</A>=20
&gt;<BR>Huntingdon,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
for information management &amp;=20
Adobe<BR>Cambs.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Acrobat integration from within=20
your<BR>UK.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
favourite word processor ...</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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5px">
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Franck Filhoulaud &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr">Franck.Filhoulaud@wanadoo.fr=
</A>&gt;<BR><B>To:=20
    </B><A =
href=3D"mailto:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com">pdf@lists.pdfzone.com</A> &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com">pdf@lists.pdfzone.com</A>&gt;<BR><B=
>Date:=20
    </B>02 January 1998 02:06<BR><B>Subject: </B>[PDF] Batch processing =
with=20
    PDFMAKER<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV>Hello,<BR><BR>I wrote a macro with word97 basic which open file =
and=20
    launch PDFmaker to<BR>create a PDF document, as a batch process; but =
memory=20
    is satured (=3Dempty,<BR>not enough ressources) when this batch =
processing=20
    open the 300 or 310th<BR>file. Why ?<BR><BR>Franck<BR><BR>PS: my =
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> ----------
> From: 	Larry O'Brien
> Sent: 	Thursday, January 01, 1998 1:09 PM
> To: 	'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'
> Subject: 	RE: [PDF] Cross-platform sound links?
> 
> 
> >>Also, Adobe has a neat little Mac. utility that will add the Acrobat
> >>resources to PDF files, as well as the Mac icon.
> 
> Can you tell me the name and FTP address of this utility? 
> 
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Thanks for all the helpful info regarding updating a PDF file.

I took the suggestion of the experts in this mailing group and implemented my program using
the form XObject. I did not find much difference in the steps to update the file either way
(earlier I used an object with text stream). As indicated by some members of this group
both techniques required changing the contents array of every page (by including the common
object) and making sure that the page resources are also updated based on the resource
needs for the new object.  Am I missing something here? ... If not what is the benefit of
using the Form XObject (in this particular case) ?

I also took a look at the modpdf sample provided by Adobe on Mark Gavin's suggestion. It is
helpful except that there are a couple of methods which do not work for Reader. Does anyone
know what happens internally when the "PDPageNotifyContentsDidChange" Method is called ?  I
am trying to simulate this method using the "AVAppRegisterNotification" method as it is not
Reader enabled.

Thanks,
Anitha

Aandi Inston wrote:

> On Tuesday, 30 December, 1997 10:33, David van Driessche [SMTP:david@enfocus.be] wrote:
> >
> > Just my two cents...
> >
> > >>The main problems are (a) potentially having to rename resource
> > references if
> > >>using the PDF 1.1. conventions (b) knowing what the current page matrix is
> > >>at the END of the page in order to compensate for it.
> >
> > Problem b) can be overcome in an easy (but a bit of a hacked) way. Instead
> > of just adding one new page contents stream with your form at the end of
> > each page, you should sandwich each page with two new streams...
> >
> > If the original page contents stream is called A, replace it with an array
> > containing
> >
> > *before*
> > A
> > *after*
> >
> > Where *before* is a stream containing only the "q" operator (save) and
> > *after* contains "Q /Fm1 Do" (or whatever other operators you want to
> > append. Using this save/restore pair relieves you of the burden of knowing
> > the current matrix at the end of the page...
> >
> > At least, if I'm not overlooking something :-)
>
> Well, probably less than I did.
>
> The story on resources and form XObjects seems confused. Well, it confused
> me.
>
> The PDF 1.1 manual (which I was originally using) states, in effect, that
> you can list resources for a form, but they don't mean anything. The entire
> resource set must be resolved in the main page object.
>
> PDF 1.2 says that forms have an independent resource set. This is much
> more sensible of course. But it continues to document the PDF 1.1 behaviour.
>
> This leaves me in a quandry. Do current readers actually implement this variant
> behaviour depending on the PDF level of the document? If they do, there's a
> problem, because there doesn't seem to be anything in the API to change the
> version of a PDF file. So if you're given a PDF 1.1 file and add a self contained
> form, it is broken - at least by definition, if not in fact.
>
> Reader 3.0 is clearly less than fanatical about such issues - for instance it
> doesn't fault new operators in the page streams for PDF 1.1 files. But I haven't
> done exhaustive experiments on forms.
>
> It would make some jobs simpler, though even the apparently simple act of
> taking an existing page's contents and resources and turning that into a form
> XObject can be rather dangerous, especially because of the habit of PDPageDelete
> of deleting the contents of a page even if they are being used elsewhere.
>
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We are using the Verity Search 97 Information Server 3.0.1 on NT 4.0
(SP5) to index our collection of approx. 120,000 PDF files of varying
size (5k - 7M).  The Verity search engine has a highlight function that
uses  XML passed from a clients browser to the to Verity server.  The
XML contains location information that the Verity server uses to locate
and highlight search terms within a PDF document.  

The problem:  IE 4.0 has a problem passing the XML string to the Server.
It appears that the XML, which is supposed to be embedded with ASCII
encoded hex characters, is not encoded correctly by the browser for
tranmission to the Verity Server.  The Verity Server does not understand
the unencoded string.  Furthermore, the IE 4.0 browser appears to enter
an infinite loop, or just freeze up, when this string is passed.  Has
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Ulf, thanks for your reply. I took a look at your website, and it seems
that indeed you are doing exactly what I have in mind. Are you using the
Corel Database Publishing tool that comes with Ventura, or are you using
a customized Access report to generate the Ventura documents? How are
the links to actuals PDFs being handled? Are you able to get the
reporting method you are using to automatically embed the links to the
PDFs? if so how are you doing this? My hope has been to build the
relative links into the database itself, have a tool that sorts and
groups the names of the documents (and descriptions), and then to spit
this out into Acrobat.

Your further thoughts on this would be appreciated.

Kenny

UA> I have don almost all of this!
> UA> I am using MS access with links to the pdf's
> UA> and all of the pdf's are produced with Ventura.
> UA> in this way we are amnaging 2000 documents and 8000
> UA> spare parts in 13 000 combinations.
> UA> It all works fine with acrobat exchange and ms access
> UA> all (except the pdf's) innstalled from a CD.
> 
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     Hi
     
     On my PC/NT 4.0 (Frame 5.1.1), the files print to .ps nicely and will 
     distill without problems, unless a font called RRKeyCaps or RRKeyLett 
     is used. Distiller gives me a definefont error and purges the job.
     
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     I've been manually editing the RR fonts out of the Frame files 
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     Is there something I can set in Distiller to make it take these fonts?
     
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     Thanks in advance for your help
     
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Can anyone tell me if you can save an Excel spreadsheet, or at least a
specified print area, as a pdf, as if to provide a summary financial report?

Thanks
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On  4 Jan 98 at 17:59, Bridget E. Robinson wrote:

> 
> Can anyone tell me if you can save an Excel spreadsheet, or at least a
> specified print area, as a pdf, as if to provide a summary financial
> report?
> 
> Thanks
> Bridget Robinson
> 
Isn't it a matter of defining your print area, then printing to 
PDFWriter?  I've done this several times.

Regards,

dps

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Department of Mathematical Sciences
The University of Akron
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Just tried it with Excel 97 and Acrobat3 - no problems - just select the print
area in the normal way in Excel and print to PDF.

Best Regards

Gary Taylor
taylorgj@aol.com

>  Can anyone tell me if you can save an Excel spreadsheet, or at least a
>  specified print area, as a pdf, as if to provide a summary financial
report?
>  
>  Thanks
>  Bridget Robinson
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I've had the same problem. Some screen shots distill correctly in color,
and others are distilled as black and white.
The only thing I've been able to come up with is this:  some of our screen
shots were shot as bitmaps then converted to another format.  Perhaps the
color was stripped during conversion?  I don't know, but I need to find a
solution soon too!


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Hello,
How to resolve this following problem:
I have a macro under Word 97 which is an "autoexec" macro, and this =
macro must launch a macro in PDFmaker.dot. Word 97 launch the macro =
"autoexec" before launching PDFmaker, so that is the problem !

Thanks

Franck Filhoulaud

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Word 97 which is=20
an &quot;autoexec&quot; macro, and this macro must launch a macro in=20
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     James:
     
     I have the Verity system on trial at work and have experienced a 
     similar problem which I discovered. We found out that the problem is 
     with Acrobat Reader 3.1. If you rollback to 3.0, you will see that the 
     highlighting problem has disappeared.
     
     I have also had other minor problems using Verity indexing of PDF 
     files. For example, the Search Summary text of my PDF files tends to 
     show text with garbage characters.
     
     Email if you are having other problems.
     
     Raul Rodriguez
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Subject: [PDF] IE 4.0, PDF, Verity, and XML headaches
Author:  James Needles <JimN@WWW.CITINC.com> at Internet-Express
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We are using the Verity Search 97 Information Server 3.0.1 on NT 4.0 
(SP5) to index our collection of approx. 120,000 PDF files of varying 
size (5k - 7M).  The Verity search engine has a highlight function that 
uses  XML passed from a clients browser to the to Verity server.  The 
XML contains location information that the Verity server uses to locate 
and highlight search terms within a PDF document.  
     
The problem:  IE 4.0 has a problem passing the XML string to the Server. 
It appears that the XML, which is supposed to be embedded with ASCII 
encoded hex characters, is not encoded correctly by the browser for 
tranmission to the Verity Server.  The Verity Server does not understand 
the unencoded string.  Furthermore, the IE 4.0 browser appears to enter 
an infinite loop, or just freeze up, when this string is passed.  Has 
anybody experienced this problem?  Is there a solution?
     
Regards, 
James Needles
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Hi

I want to create a 'Widget' Annotation using Acrobat API's. I also would
like to display a bitmap/icon in the annotation. Does anyone know how to
do this ?

Thanks
Naresh

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Does anybody know of any more sophisticated search engine for Acrobat Reader? In particular I am looking for one which can give multiple results for Bolean searches and has better proximity searching - i.e. can give results, say,  for search items within a specified number of words of each other or in the same sentence or paragraph. If so, how much does it cost?
Regards and Happy New Year.
Pat Coyne  

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 I apologize in advance if this is not the correct list for this
 question. I am trying to convert some newsletters produced in Pagemaker
 6.5 to PDF files using the export feature in Pagemaker. The Pagemaker
 6.5
 files are all about 2.5 megs in size. With all of them, I got an error
 from
 Pagemaker and the program crashes. The error refered back to the
 EXPPDF.ADD file. I went to Adobe's homepage and downloaded an update the
 PDF export. I tried again and received a different error message but
 basically
 the same thing happened. The file was not exported as a PDF and instead
 of
 crashing, Pagemaker began to have serious internal errors.. After I
 close the
 program it is fine but still refuses to export the files. Thank you all
 in advance. If this list is not appropriate, perhaps someone can tell me
 where to try next.


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There is no question that attempting to do anything beyond certain =
("toy") limits drives Office and OLE Automation, etc crazy...  Goofy =
things that help with problems like this:

1) Make sure that the termination of functions include... SET objvar =3D =
nothing for all of your object variables... interesting... or certain =
forms of garbage collection aren't done.   According to documentation, =
this is done automatically for you when a function terminates however... =
forcing cleanup will help in certain cases...

2) Word is a real "pig" with memory... building smaller pieces of the =
document in functions that terminate and then that are later assembled =
back into a "final" document also can help

3) When creating documents the use of PostScript printer drivers and =
then Distiller can solve problems with memory leaks in PDFWriter...

4) The "Classic" memory fix... restart your new "giant" PC with huge =
amounts of memory... so that Office starts "clean"...

Hope this might help you...

Dan.




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<<File: ATT00000.htm>><<File: macro.zip>>
Hello,

I wrote a macro with word97 basic which open file and launch PDFmaker to
create a PDF document, as a batch process; but memory is satured =
(=3Dempty,
not enough ressources) when this batch processing open the 300 or 310th
file. Why ?

Franck

PS: my macro is attached



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If you just want to cover some stuff, use the form tool to create a white
box (or whatever color your background is) and place it over the part of
the graphic to hide.  It's easy, and if you ever need to change it back,
it's even easier.

At 05:35 PM 1/5/98 -0600, you wrote:
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>I have some already formatted and linked PDFs that I need to alter
>graphically. I would prefer to not have to rebuild this from scratch.
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I have some already formatted and linked PDFs that I need to alter
graphically. I would prefer to not have to rebuild this from scratch.

I need to do some simple patching of graphics (cover up some stuff on
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>I have some already formatted and linked PDFs that I need to alter
>graphically. I would prefer to not have to rebuild this from scratch.
>I need to do some simple patching of graphics (cover up some stuff on
>certain pages). Is there any way to do this?

Look at Enfocus PitStop (http://www.enfocus.com)

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>Does anybody know of any more sophisticated search engine for Acrobat
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>Does anybody know of any more sophisticated search engine for Acrobat
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I have a number of paper-based documents in Greek, Chinese, Russian, 
and Turkish that my OCR program does have a chance with.  I found 
that scanning these documents with the Exchange/Scan option can 
obtain acceptable file sizes.  I would like to get peoples 
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I'm using a HP ScanJet IIcx.  The documents are primarily black text 
on a white background.  I'm using the black and white setting with 
240 dpi.  I know that I should be able to use the 80 dpi, but that 
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From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 01/06/98 12:58 PM

Did a pundit on this list post recently that Distiller was now on version
3.02? Is this true for Windows?

Does PDFWriter 3.03 run on Win'95 in addition to NT?

Last but not least, has anyone noticed that Adobe's FTP site has some very
interesting dates, i.e., all 97 entries seem to now read 98 as in there are
file versions dated 8/8/98, etc.


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>Did a pundit on this list post recently that Distiller was now on version
>3.02? Is this true for Windows?

Distiller update to 3.02 is avail. on Adobe's ftp site, for Windows and 
Mac. I've installed the uprgrade for Mac but have not yet done the 
upgrade on the PC.

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At 12:58 PM 1/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
>From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 01/06/98 12:58 PM
>
>Did a pundit on this list post recently that Distiller was now on version
>3.02? Is this true for Windows?

Acrobat Distiller 3.02 will be available from the Adobe Web site in about a
week. It was mistakenly put on the ftp site and was immediately removed.
So, please check the Adobe Web site, download area,
http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/download.html, next week.
This update is for all platforms - Mac 68K and PPC, Win 3.1, Win95, Win NT,
and UNIX.

>Does PDFWriter 3.03 run on Win'95 in addition to NT?

No. The update to PDFWriter was to work with Adobe Type Manager on NT 4.0.
The PDFWriter 3.02 that runs on Win95 already works with Adobe Type
Manager. That's the only change to PDFWriter for NT.

>Last but not least, has anyone noticed that Adobe's FTP site has some very
>interesting dates, i.e., all 97 entries seem to now read 98 as in there are
>file versions dated 8/8/98, etc.

I forwarded this to our ftp site manager.

Thanks,
Sarah
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Acrobat Distiller is not removing the color information from the images. It
simply can't do that. Most likely the driver or application creating the
PostScript language file is doing the conversion to gray scale. This
frequently happens when the driver for a B&W laser printer is used. Try
using the Acrobat Distiller PPD file when generating the PostScript file.
The PPD tells drivers it understands color, so the color information gets
into the PostScript file.

Cheers,
Sarah

At 09:26 AM 1/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>I've had the same problem. Some screen shots distill correctly in color,
>and others are distilled as black and white.
>The only thing I've been able to come up with is this:  some of our screen
>shots were shot as bitmaps then converted to another format.  Perhaps the
>color was stripped during conversion?  I don't know, but I need to find a
>solution soon too!
>
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A work around would be to create a postscript file in pagemaker and then use
adobe's distiller (assuming you have it) to create your pdf. A simple way to
create the ps file is just "print to file" when printing.

anabrown@unm.edu wrote:

>  I apologize in advance if this is not the correct list for this
>  question. I am trying to convert some newsletters produced in Pagemaker
>  6.5 to PDF files using the export feature in Pagemaker. The Pagemaker
>  6.5
>  files are all about 2.5 megs in size. With all of them, I got an error
>  from
>  Pagemaker and the program crashes. The error refered back to the
>  EXPPDF.ADD file. I went to Adobe's homepage and downloaded an update the
>  PDF export. I tried again and received a different error message but
>  basically
>  the same thing happened. The file was not exported as a PDF and instead
>  of
>  crashing, Pagemaker began to have serious internal errors.. After I
>  close the
>  program it is fine but still refuses to export the files. Thank you all
>  in advance. If this list is not appropriate, perhaps someone can tell me
>  where to try next.
>
>  Anna Marie
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Elissa et al,

YES, we published in the December 15, 1997 issue of EXTRA the URL to
Adobe's FTP site where the v.3.02 versions (Mac, Win & Unix) of Distiller
_were_ then available for downloading. A day or two later we were asked to
remove the link as newer files were being readied for distribution via the
Adobe web site. We're still waiting for the new URL, but have removed the
old link from the web version of EXTRA as requested.

FYI: Watch for the 1998 debut of Emerge EXTRA next week!

rgds ~ Kurt
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>From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 01/06/98 12:58 PM

>Did a pundit on this list post recently that Distiller was now on version
>3.02? Is this true for Windows?
>
>Does PDFWriter 3.03 run on Win'95 in addition to NT?
>
>Last but not least, has anyone noticed that Adobe's FTP site has some very
>interesting dates, i.e., all 97 entries seem to now read 98 as in there are
>file versions dated 8/8/98, etc.


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Keith Allan Kuhn wrote:
> 
> >Did a pundit on this list post recently that Distiller was now on version
> >3.02? Is this true for Windows?
> 
> Distiller update to 3.02 is avail. on Adobe's ftp site, for Windows and
> Mac. I've installed the uprgrade for Mac but have not yet done the
> upgrade on the PC.

Can't find it.  Can you supply a URL?

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Hello

What I am hoping to do is save myself and perhaps others some time. Is there
someone out there who has by this time developed a standard way of reaching
good print out of jobs done in quark and readied for film out put of 4CP and
spot colors? And at the same time achieving small file sizes? I could and am
experimenting with all types of settings, but perhaps some one could save me
alot ot time by sharing what you have found using the following:

1 working on a mac
2 using adobe psprinter / laserwriter 8 drivers
3 quarkxpress as layout program
4 illustrator eps
5 photoshop eps
6 photoshop tiff
7 Artpro vector art
8 Agfa imagesetter (tiapan rip)
9 Panther, panther rip
10 Minolta 9500 series color printer
11 pantone spot colors
12 4CP
13 cmyk as spot printing to film


Well you get the picture. I need to come up with a standard setting in
distiller for the watch folder. Is there one that you have found to be
satisfactory for printing to film and color printers using quark layouts? We
print business cards, postcards etc. We are a magnet producer and also work
with a lot of 4cp items. We print to film for offset and silkscreening. Even
a good book somewhere would help!

I have probably asked the $64 million dollar question, but someone had to
(again?)

Randall
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We have a PDF product that links to video files on the CD. Unfortunately
we are out of space, and need to add another CD to the product. Does
anyone have any suggestions on how we can link from one CD to the other,
without wreaking havok with Acrobat Reader or Windows 95 or Mac OS?


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>Did a pundit on this list post recently that Distiller was now on version
>3.02? Is this true for Windows?
I've downloaded it following Kurt's link, installed it and got it 
running. No more about bugs corrections as I use Distiller mainly on the 
Mac platform.

Now that Sarah said we should have waited an "official" release, should I 
get the new 3.02 Win version or will it be the same I've already 
downloaded?

Greetings
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> Try using the Acrobat Distiller PPD file when generating the
> PostScript file. The PPD tells drivers it understands color, so the
> color information gets into the PostScript file.

Extra note:

Using the Distiller PPD is naturally the best solution, but not for
NT users. Adobe's PostScript driver DOES NOT SUPPORT NT.

Sorry for shouting Sarah... Just expressing my frustration ;)

  Arnoud.
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Hello,

Anyone seen or heard of an Acrobat Plug in that would do word or line
counts?

Kind regards,

Johan

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Thane,

you should use 300 dpi for scanning documents, that have to be OCRed afterwards. Usually using b/w for scanning (1 bit) should do, but that depends on the contents of the pages. If there's a need to recognize images and graphic arts, you should consider grayscale for scanning, but your file size of the scanning documents will get 8 times bigger.

To convert document to PDF there is also another OCR program a available. Take a look at "textbridge 98 pro", available at Xerox. In Germany the price is approximately US$ 150. It has, I think, international language support.

Best wishes from Germany.

Tom

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I have a number of paper-based documents in Greek, Chinese, Russian, 
and Turkish that my OCR program does have a chance with.  I found 
that scanning these documents with the Exchange/Scan option can 
obtain acceptable file sizes.  I would like to get peoples 
suggestions of what the best combination of settings might be.

I'm using a HP ScanJet IIcx.  The documents are primarily black text 
on a white background.  I'm using the black and white setting with 
240 dpi.  I know that I should be able to use the 80 dpi, but that 
just doesn't look right. I'm not concerned with print quality as much 
as I am with download speeds -- these will be on my web site.  I'm 
especially  wondering if I should be using the dithering settings 
since the text is basically a bunch of lines.

Any advice would be welcomed.

==Thane
==============================================
Thane Terrill
Network Administrator
Baha'i International Community
866 United Nations Plaza - Suite 120
New York City, New York 10017-1822

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[Schiff, Kenny wrote on 1/5/98 11:34 PM]

>
>I have some already formatted and linked PDFs that I need to alter
>graphically. I would prefer to not have to rebuild this from scratch.
>
>I need to do some simple patching of graphics (cover up some stuff on
>certain pages). Is there any way to do this?

Kenny,
 If you need to "cover up" or hide information in PDF files you may want 
to take a look at our Redax plug-in.  Its function is to remove or redact 
information from PDF files while maintaining the document formatting.  
Using Redax, the portions of pages that are redacted can never be viewed 
by the end user.

Information on Redax can be found on our web site at 
http://www.digapp.com.



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There are three free Acrobat plug-ins available on our web site at 
http://www.digapp.com.  All three are available for both Windows 95/NT 
and Macintosh PPC/68K.

TriState - Replaces the three page mode buttons and the three zoom 
buttons in the Acrobat toolbar with single TriState buttons.  TriState 
thus removes four icons from the Acrobat toolbar.

ReversePages - Reverses the order of all the pages in a PDF document.

ShowBookmarks - Displays the bookmark pane if the PDF file contains 
bookmarks.  I was constantly checking to see if a document contained 
bookmarks; this is just a convenience which automatically opens the 
bookmark pane if bookmarks do exist.



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In a message dated 1/7/98 12:23:20 PM, you wrote:

<<...and Macintosh PPC/68K>>

Mark---
Will Mac version work on PowerMacs?   <brucef3680@aol.com>
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I'm new to the list because I've just purchased Acrobat and need some
assistance. I wish to create PDF documents using my Logitech TWAIN
PageScan Color sheet fed scanner. When I start to install Acrobat 3.0,
the list of scanners doesn't show my scanner.  Will my scanner still be
useable to input images/documents for conversion to PDF format? Thanks
to all for your assistance! Don in sunny Florida


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[BruceF3680 wrote on 1/7/98 12:35 PM]

>
>In a message dated 1/7/98 12:23:20 PM, you wrote:
>
><<...and Macintosh PPC/68K>>
>
>Mark---
>Will Mac version work on PowerMacs?   <brucef3680@aol.com>

Bruce,
  The PPC above stands for PowerPC; the processor used in a PowerMac.  In 
short, the plug-ins works on any Macintosh that runs Acrobat.



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>Acrobat Distiller 3.02 will be available from the Adobe Web site in about a
>week. It was mistakenly put on the ftp site and was immediately removed.

If I downloaded the update a couple weeks ago from the ftp site, is there 
any reason I should re-download from the Web site? (Kurt Foss mentioned 
"newer" files were being put there--I'm wondering if they will be any 
different that the ftp versions)?

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Hi,

I need some help with the following problem. We have a huge amount of
ps-files which must be distilled - to one pdf - in the same order they are
made (by creation date). I know the possibility to make a sorted dir-list
in dos and then manually edit RunFileX.ps. But since we are doing it often,
I will prefere this operation to be as automatic as possible. 

Is the solution to make an extern application which can handle it, or does
anyone know a more simple way to solve this?

Thanks

Peder Madsen

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     Kenny,

     Adobe Illustrator 7.0 has the ability to open and save pdf pages. SO 
     you might be able to get done what you need by...

     1. In Acrobat Exchange extract the page you want to change 
     (document/extract) and save it as something ie. pg3.pdf. (I've only 
     seen Illustrator open one pdf page at a time --I haven't used it much 
     BTW)

     2. Open this pdf file in Illustrator and make the edits you need. Save 
     it as a PDF file right from Illustrator.

     3. Replace the page you want using Acrobat Exchange (Document/replace 
     page).  The links to and from the page should remain in place.


     Another way to get around this is touch-up approach to editing which 
     we have been using more and more, is to use the pdfmark command and 
     Acrobat Distiller.  We place eps files in our source document with 
     pdfmark codes so that we can modify the source and redistill with all 
     the links automatically being generated.  

     Which approach we use depends mostly on the nature of the source and 
     the amount of time we had to set it up.

     Regards,

     Wes Bren
     GRE Insurance Group
     513-576-4734

     ps. Illustrator 7.0 is only available for Win 95/NT and Mac 
     pps.  You will likely need to have the original fonts on your system 
     or else Illustrator will make some substitutions.


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I have some already formatted and linked PDFs that I need to alter 
graphically. I would prefer to not have to rebuild this from scratch.

I need to do some simple patching of graphics (cover up some stuff on 
certain pages). Is there any way to do this? 
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Johan:
I am not sure there is a plug-in that does this, but you could always =
use the Edit/Copy File to Clipboard, and paste it into MS Word, or other =
word processor that will do the word count for you.

Good luck.

Karl Schmidtmann
Ambia

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Hello,

Anyone seen or heard of an Acrobat Plug in that would do word or line
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Kind regards,

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Does anybody know of a simple solution to create a TOC for pdfs in a
directory tree?

I am not talking about a major document management solution for $$$ but
more about a simple solution that would parse the tree, display directories
as sub-headlines and then display the regular information field contents
with the title as a link to the actual pdf file.

Viele Gruesse * Best regards

Sebastian Bautz


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What operating system?

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> Does anybody know of a simple solution to create a TOC for pdfs in a
> directory tree?
> 
> I am not talking about a major document management solution for $$$ but
> more about a simple solution that would parse the tree, display
> directories
> as sub-headlines and then display the regular information field contents
> with the title as a link to the actual pdf file.
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> Viele Gruesse * Best regards
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> Sebastian Bautz
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To clear this up (at least from what we know), the reference to a "newer"
version had more to do with an upcoming  *official* release that had all
the right legalese in place. I expect it'll be the same version number.

We had seen a notice elsewhere online a few days earlier that an updater
for Distiller v.3.02 was on Adobe's FTP site. We snagged it, ran it and
decided it was worthy of mention in EXTRA. It now appears it wasn't *quite*
ready for wide-spread release -- but should be soon, according to Sarah R's
posting here yesterday. We've had no problems running the version that was
temporarily available. Perhaps Sarah or another Adobian can clarify whether
those who did download that earlier 3.02 version should stop using it for
any reason (us included!).

rgds ~ Kurt
===

>If I downloaded the update a couple weeks ago from the ftp site, is there
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>"newer" files were being put there--I'm wondering if they will be any
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Is there any way to optimize a PDF file and disallow its editing (security)
other than through the File > Save As.. dialog in Exchange?  Specifically, I'd
like to avoid Exchange by using either distiller options or by embedding
pdfmark commands in my PostScript code prior to distillation.  I looked in the
PDFMark reference manual but found nothing of help.

Thanks,

Rob Hakanson
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I'm not the original requestor, but I'd be interested in a utility that
worked in the Windows platform (Windows 95/NT).  Make it even better by
duplicating the same info as hierarchical bookmarks.

Steve Ward
stw@lilly.com

>
>What operating system?
>
>> 
>> Does anybody know of a simple solution to create a TOC for pdfs in a
>> directory tree?
>> 
>> I am not talking about a major document management solution for $$$ but
>> more about a simple solution that would parse the tree, display
>> directories
>> as sub-headlines and then display the regular information field
contents
>> with the title as a link to the actual pdf file.
>> 
>> Viele Gruesse * Best regards
>> 
>> Sebastian Bautz

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Quinton,Kathleen wrote:
> 
> i don't have an answer for you but i need help with the optimize
> function also.  we have lot's of pdf files which need to be optimized
> and tried to figure out a way to automate this function within our daily
> process.  we'd like to incorporate the batch optimize function into our
> daily unix jobstream without having to utilize adobe's online interface.
> our partners FTP us PDF files and we have a series of UNIX processes
> which move the data to the appropriate location at our site.  we'd like
> to be able to invoke the optimize function within our unix processes
> (sort of a command line function).  do you have a person who invoke the
> optimize function or have you figured out how to automate this?
> 
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:   Scott Albright [SMTP:AlbrigS@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil]
>         Sent:   Friday, November 07, 1997 1:46 PM
>         To:     pdf@lists.emrg.com
>         Subject:        [PDF] Batch Optimize
> 
>         We are beginning to utilize Exchange 3.0's Batch Optimize
> program and I
>         have a quick question if anyone can answer it.
> 
>         We will be running optimize overnight on thousands of pdfs over
> a week
>         period, I've only encountered 2 files that have not optimized in
> the past.
>         Is there anywhere that Exchange creates a log file that can be
> examined to
>         determine what files may have not optimized?
> 
>         Any help would be Grand.
> 
>         Thanks In Advance:
> 
>         Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC)
>         AF PDSM Program Office
>         TO Conversion Operation (TOCO)
>         (937) 257-1374, DSN 787-1374
>         FAX (937) 656-1934, DSN 986-1934
> 

I also have this same need but also is there a way to?

Here it goes (my question) Do you know of a way to modify a pdf file
(1.1 or 1.2 format) in a way that would change the default open behavior
(the acorbat reader) of a pdf document (i.e. open in thumnail mode) the
pdf was converted to thumbnail using Acrobat Exchange 3.0 on UNIX (IBM
AIX 4.1 unix box) using the Batch Optimize option. I know I can
configure the reader to do this but I need the pdf file to have this
open behavior. I was told by Adobe support that I couild write a c++
program to do this and I did. It required that I read the pdf file and
add a
line to the object type (/Type /Catalog):

1 0 obj
<<
/Type /Catalog
/Pages 2 0 R
/Outlines 3 0 R
/PageMode /UseOutlines (change this to /PageMode /UseThumbs) 
>>
endobj   

But when I open the pdf file after I make the change(run my program) I
get a warning message from the Acrobat Reader but
the pdf open in thumbnail mode (meaning you see the thumbnails)
and the first page of the pdf and everything looks good! BUT
tech support said the warning message has something to do with the xref
table. 

Any clues. any help would be greatly appreciated.



thanks in advance

Louis Rosa
Coordinator Computer Applications
Florida CEnter for Library Automation
Gainesville, FL
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If you have Excel 97, the URL below will take you to a VBA macro that will
do a few of the things Steve and Sebastian are asking about.
http://econwpa.wustl.edu/~pdfl/0205.html

> ----------
> From: 	Ward Steve[SMTP:WARD_STEVE@LILLY.COM]
> Reply To: 	pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
> Sent: 	Wednesday, January 07, 1998 2:23 PM
> To: 	pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
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> 
> 
> I'm not the original requestor, but I'd be interested in a utility that
> worked in the Windows platform (Windows 95/NT).  Make it even better by
> duplicating the same info as hierarchical bookmarks.
> 
> Steve Ward
> stw@lilly.com
> 
> >
> >What operating system?
> >
> >> 
> >> Does anybody know of a simple solution to create a TOC for pdfs in a
> >> directory tree?
> >> 
> >> I am not talking about a major document management solution for $$$ but
> >> more about a simple solution that would parse the tree, display
> >> directories
> >> as sub-headlines and then display the regular information field
> contents
> >> with the title as a link to the actual pdf file.
> >> 
> >> Viele Gruesse * Best regards
> >> 
> >> Sebastian Bautz
> 
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i don't have an answer for you but i need help with the optimize
function also.  we have lot's of pdf files which need to be optimized
and tried to figure out a way to automate this function within our daily
process.  we'd like to incorporate the batch optimize function into our
daily unix jobstream without having to utilize adobe's online interface.
our partners FTP us PDF files and we have a series of UNIX processes
which move the data to the appropriate location at our site.  we'd like
to be able to invoke the optimize function within our unix processes
(sort of a command line function).  do you have a person who invoke the
optimize function or have you figured out how to automate this?



	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Scott Albright [SMTP:AlbrigS@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil]
	Sent:	Friday, November 07, 1997 1:46 PM
	To:	pdf@lists.emrg.com
	Subject:	[PDF] Batch Optimize


	We are beginning to utilize Exchange 3.0's Batch Optimize
program and I
	have a quick question if anyone can answer it.

	We will be running optimize overnight on thousands of pdfs over
a week
	period, I've only encountered 2 files that have not optimized in
the past.
	Is there anywhere that Exchange creates a log file that can be
examined to
	determine what files may have not optimized?

	Any help would be Grand.

	Thanks In Advance:

	Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC)
	AF PDSM Program Office 
	TO Conversion Operation (TOCO)
	(937) 257-1374, DSN 787-1374
	FAX (937) 656-1934, DSN 986-1934


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Hopefully, someone out there can help!!!!!PLEASE!!!!

We are trying to create an index to be used on a CD-ROM.  The pdf
files take up about 400MB (69 total files).  We're running
Acrobat Catalog to create the index and received a "Index failed
to Build" error.  It also gives us "E3-0024" with "failed 1 times
to build partition 00000000.did".  This occurs after
approximately 76% has been processed.  We've tried modifying the
'acrocat.ini' file as described by Adobe but it hasn't helped.

Our current stats are:   Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 2), Pentium
Pro 200, 32 MB RAM, over 1.2 GB of free hard disk space,  the
pdfs are 'Image plus hidden text' with no forms or color photos
(only some black and white drawings).  Each pdf is from 1-30 MB
(60-900 pages) and they have all been optimized with the 'save
as' command in Exchange..  We're using Acrobat Catalog 3.01 and
have left default 'ini' values except for:  MemoryPercent=40,
Verbosity=1, GroupSizeForCDROM=64000 and we optimized for CD-ROM
when building.  We have tried lower MemoryPercent (down to 10)
and larger DocumentWordSectionsLarge (up to 1600000).  All to no
avail.

The log file hasn't help at all.  At most, it tells us that in
the area where the problem is....".xxxx.pdf  cannot be opened for
indexing" and that occurs from that point on.  We have no
passwords or write-protects on the files.  We checked the
archives and found a reference to a similar problem and the
suggestion was to take off the "optimize for  CD-ROM" - we tried
that and received a different error but the same log file and the
same point of failure (this time E0-0419,E0-0415, etc....).

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks,

Tracie DeVoe
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tracie DeVoe
Logistic Services International
1851 Ehringhaus St. #101
Elizabeth City, NC  27909

PH#: (919) 335-6239
FAX: (919) 335-6463
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Hopefully, someone out there can help!!!!!PLEASE!!!!

<P>We are trying to create an index to be used on a CD-ROM.&nbsp; The pdf
files take up about 400MB (69 total files).&nbsp; We're running Acrobat
Catalog to create the index and received a "Index failed to Build" error.&nbsp;
It also gives us "E3-0024" with "failed 1 times to build partition 00000000.did".&nbsp;
This occurs after approximately 76% has been processed.&nbsp; We've tried
modifying the 'acrocat.ini' file as described by Adobe but it hasn't helped.

<P>Our current stats are:&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 2),
Pentium Pro 200, 32 MB RAM, over 1.2 GB of free hard disk space,&nbsp;
the pdfs are 'Image plus hidden text' with no forms or color photos (only
some black and white drawings).&nbsp; Each pdf is from 1-30 MB (60-900
pages) and they have all been optimized with the 'save as' command in Exchange..&nbsp;
We're using Acrobat Catalog 3.01 and have left default 'ini' values except
for:&nbsp; MemoryPercent=40, Verbosity=1, GroupSizeForCDROM=64000 and we
optimized for CD-ROM when building.&nbsp; We have tried lower MemoryPercent
(down to 10) and larger DocumentWordSectionsLarge (up to 1600000).&nbsp;
All to no avail.

<P>The log file hasn't help at all.&nbsp; At most, it tells us that in
the area where the problem is....".xxxx.pdf&nbsp; cannot be opened for
indexing" and that occurs from that point on.&nbsp; We have <B><U>no</U></B>
passwords or write-protects on the files.&nbsp; We checked the archives
and found a reference to a similar problem and the suggestion was to take
off the "optimize for&nbsp; CD-ROM" - we tried that and received a different
error but the same log file and the same point of failure (this time E0-0419,E0-0415,
etc....).

<P>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp; Thanks,

<P>Tracie DeVoe
<BR>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
<BR>Tracie DeVoe
<BR>Logistic Services International
<BR>1851 Ehringhaus St. #101
<BR>Elizabeth City, NC&nbsp; 27909

<P>PH#: (919) 335-6239
<BR>FAX: (919) 335-6463
<BR>email:&nbsp; tdevoe@lsijax.com
<BR>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</HTML>

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PDFfusion  will do this. I guess it depends what you call a "major document management solution" and what your definition of $$$ is :~)

Please contact me or check out our web site for more details.

Regards

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Sent:	07 January 1998 17:44
To:	pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
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Does anybody know of a simple solution to create a TOC for pdfs in a
directory tree?

I am not talking about a major document management solution for $$$ but
more about a simple solution that would parse the tree, display directories
as sub-headlines and then display the regular information field contents
with the title as a link to the actual pdf file.

Viele Gruesse * Best regards

Sebastian Bautz


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Tracie,

Does it always bomb on the same file?  If it does, you may want to 
remove that file to see if Catalog will complete the process.  If the 
process completes without that file, then the file itself may be 
damaged and running the original through Distiller again may correct 
the problem.

Another problem may be the available ram that you have on your system, 
32 meg seems a little low for NT.

Randy Johnston
State of the Art, Inc.



Hopefully, someone out there can help!!!!!PLEASE!!!!

We are trying to create an index to be used on a CD-ROM.  The pdf
files take up about 400MB (69 total files).  We're running
Acrobat Catalog to create the index and received a "Index failed
to Build" error.  It also gives us "E3-0024" with "failed 1 times
to build partition 00000000.did".  This occurs after
approximately 76% has been processed.  We've tried modifying the
'acrocat.ini' file as described by Adobe but it hasn't helped.

Our current stats are:   Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 2), Pentium
Pro 200, 32 MB RAM, over 1.2 GB of free hard disk space,  the
pdfs are 'Image plus hidden text' with no forms or color photos
(only some black and white drawings).  Each pdf is from 1-30 MB
(60-900 pages) and they have all been optimized with the 'save
as' command in Exchange..  We're using Acrobat Catalog 3.01 and
have left default 'ini' values except for:  MemoryPercent=40,
Verbosity=1, GroupSizeForCDROM=64000 and we optimized for CD-ROM
when building.  We have tried lower MemoryPercent (down to 10)
and larger DocumentWordSectionsLarge (up to 1600000).  All to no
avail.

The log file hasn't help at all.  At most, it tells us that in
the area where the problem is....".xxxx.pdf  cannot be opened for
indexing" and that occurs from that point on.  We have no
passwords or write-protects on the files.  We checked the
archives and found a reference to a similar problem and the
suggestion was to take off the "optimize for  CD-ROM" - we tried
that and received a different error but the same log file and the
same point of failure (this time E0-0419,E0-0415, etc....).

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks,

Tracie DeVoe
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PDFfusion can automatically "Save as optimised" and can be implemented as a seamless part of a Unix process.

Check out our Web site or e-mail me directly for more information.

Regards

drc
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent:	07 January 1998 19:50
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Subject:	RE: [PDF] Batch Optimize


i don't have an answer for you but i need help with the optimize
function also.  we have lot's of pdf files which need to be optimized
and tried to figure out a way to automate this function within our daily
process.  we'd like to incorporate the batch optimize function into our
daily unix jobstream without having to utilize adobe's online interface.
our partners FTP us PDF files and we have a series of UNIX processes
which move the data to the appropriate location at our site.  we'd like
to be able to invoke the optimize function within our unix processes
(sort of a command line function).  do you have a person who invoke the
optimize function or have you figured out how to automate this?



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	From:	Scott Albright [SMTP:AlbrigS@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil]
	Sent:	Friday, November 07, 1997 1:46 PM
	To:	pdf@lists.emrg.com
	Subject:	[PDF] Batch Optimize


	We are beginning to utilize Exchange 3.0's Batch Optimize
program and I
	have a quick question if anyone can answer it.

	We will be running optimize overnight on thousands of pdfs over
a week
	period, I've only encountered 2 files that have not optimized in
the past.
	Is there anywhere that Exchange creates a log file that can be
examined to
	determine what files may have not optimized?

	Any help would be Grand.

	Thanks In Advance:

	Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC)
	AF PDSM Program Office 
	TO Conversion Operation (TOCO)
	(937) 257-1374, DSN 787-1374
	FAX (937) 656-1934, DSN 986-1934


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PDFfusion does this and Lilly is already a customer!! 

Ploease contact me for more information.

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-----Original Message-----
From:	Ward Steve [SMTP:WARD_STEVE@LILLY.COM]
Sent:	07 January 1998 19:23
To:	pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Subject:	Re: [PDF] Program to create TOC pdf


I'm not the original requestor, but I'd be interested in a utility that
worked in the Windows platform (Windows 95/NT).  Make it even better by
duplicating the same info as hierarchical bookmarks.

Steve Ward
stw@lilly.com

>
>What operating system?
>
>> 
>> Does anybody know of a simple solution to create a TOC for pdfs in a
>> directory tree?
>> 
>> I am not talking about a major document management solution for $$$ but
>> more about a simple solution that would parse the tree, display
>> directories
>> as sub-headlines and then display the regular information field
contents
>> with the title as a link to the actual pdf file.
>> 
>> Viele Gruesse * Best regards
>> 
>> Sebastian Bautz

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Tracie,

I've run into very similar problems many times before.

The solution for me has been to use the following settings in Acrocat.INI:

     DocumentWordSectionsSelection=2
     IndexAvailableGroupSize=16
     DocumentWordSectionsLarge=1600000

(Leave all others at their default values).

Do NOT select "Optimize for CD-ROM" !

Delete whatever copy of the index you currently have;  don't "purge" it -- I
mean really go out there and delete all of the index-related subdirectories
by hand!

You don't need to delete the .PDX definition file itself.

Then, build a clean index using the new INI values.

You'll have to use the Catalog Schedule (set it for 5-minute interval) to
get all of the files to be automatically incorporated into the index.  Or,
you can just build the index manually, multiple times, which will add 16
more files to the index each time until they've all been processed.

HTH

Tom Thiersch

  
At 04:08 PM 1/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hopefully, someone out there can help!!!!!PLEASE!!!!
>
>We are trying to create an index to be used on a CD-ROM.  The pdf
>files take up about 400MB (69 total files).  We're running
>Acrobat Catalog to create the index and received a "Index failed
>to Build" error.  It also gives us "E3-0024" with "failed 1 times
>to build partition 00000000.did".  This occurs after
>approximately 76% has been processed.  We've tried modifying the
>'acrocat.ini' file as described by Adobe but it hasn't helped.
>
>Our current stats are:   Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 2), Pentium
>Pro 200, 32 MB RAM, over 1.2 GB of free hard disk space,  the
>pdfs are 'Image plus hidden text' with no forms or color photos
>(only some black and white drawings).  Each pdf is from 1-30 MB
>(60-900 pages) and they have all been optimized with the 'save
>as' command in Exchange..  We're using Acrobat Catalog 3.01 and
>have left default 'ini' values except for:  MemoryPercent=40,
>Verbosity=1, GroupSizeForCDROM=64000 and we optimized for CD-ROM
>when building.  We have tried lower MemoryPercent (down to 10)
>and larger DocumentWordSectionsLarge (up to 1600000).  All to no
>avail.
>
>The log file hasn't help at all.  At most, it tells us that in
>the area where the problem is....".xxxx.pdf  cannot be opened for
>indexing" and that occurs from that point on.  We have no
>passwords or write-protects on the files.  We checked the
>archives and found a reference to a similar problem and the
>suggestion was to take off the "optimize for  CD-ROM" - we tried
>that and received a different error but the same log file and the
>same point of failure (this time E0-0419,E0-0415, etc....).
>
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks,
>
>Tracie DeVoe
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Tracy:   I'm pretty new at this, but a couple of things that may be
helpful:  Somewhere I read or heard that when indexing you use a ton of
space - Are you sure that 1.2 gig of space is enough?  also, I'm sure
you've done this, but just to make sure the obvious isn't missed, have you
checked to see if the offending files open okay in exchange?


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This would be nice...




WARD_STEVE@LILLY.COM on 01/07/98 11:23:15 AM

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I'm not the original requestor, but I'd be interested in a utility that
worked in the Windows platform (Windows 95/NT).  Make it even better by
duplicating the same info as hierarchical bookmarks.

Steve Ward
stw@lilly.com

>
>What operating system?
>
>>
>> Does anybody know of a simple solution to create a TOC for pdfs in a
>> directory tree?
>>
>> I am not talking about a major document management solution for $$$ but
>> more about a simple solution that would parse the tree, display
>> directories
>> as sub-headlines and then display the regular information field
contents
>> with the title as a link to the actual pdf file.
>>
>> Viele Gruesse * Best regards
>>
>> Sebastian Bautz

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I am in serious need of 'INPUT' (as Johnny 5 might say). I converted
from the Xerox Pagis format and am now going full steam putting
Technical and Parts Manuals onto Disk. But... although it's going well
and the links are working correctly, I just know I'm not getting the
file size as small as possible (what format IS most efficient to use for
scanning before PDF conversion?) and that there are methods available to
secure my work so it won't get 'appropriated' by those people that I am
demonstrating it to.

I need an information source. A book, a class, a seminar... something
that won't waste my time showing me the basics that I have been able to
find out on my own (and through this PDF list - Thank you).

I see that a Mark Witkowski is going to publish "The PDF Bible" this
month. A 450 page paperback for $40.00. Anybody know his work? Are there
any other Current Reference Books that are available to help me get the
most out of my work with PDF documents?

Thanks for any help.

Jim Stevens
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>Has anyone had the opportunity to look at Jdoc technology and compare it
>with PDF??
>
>Adobe - have you got any comparisons?
>

Taking my Adobe hat off for a moment:  I tried out the Jdoc stuff and it
seemed roughly analagous to  some of Acrobat's early competitors, Common
Ground and Replica (lord, is that what it was called? It's been so long!).

As I recall, it seems to use a printer driver to convert print files into a
sort of RFT intermediate version, thence to Jdoc. RFT (Microsoft's Richly
Formatted Text format) has many, many limitations. This means the Jdocs
converter gets competely flummoxed by anything more complex than a Word
document, or when EPS files or decent vector graphics are involved. And
fonts? Fuhgedaboutit.

In short: interesting idea, but weak on the basics.

Gary Cosimini


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>....Perhaps Sarah or another Adobian can clarify whether
>those who did download that earlier 3.02 version should stop using it for
>any reason (us included!).


I don't know if you should stop using it, but you should certainly replace
it with the definitive version once it's posted.

Gary Cosimini
Adobe Systems


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Peder,

which operating system do you use?

Do you have access to some basic programming languages, e.g. Visual Basic within Microsoft Word For Windows or for Macintosh? Then it should be easy.

Best wishes from Germany.

Tom


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Hi,

I need some help with the following problem. We have a huge amount of
ps-files which must be distilled - to one pdf - in the same order they are
made (by creation date). I know the possibility to make a sorted dir-list
in dos and then manually edit RunFileX.ps. But since we are doing it often,
I will prefere this operation to be as automatic as possible. 

Is the solution to make an extern application which can handle it, or does
anyone know a more simple way to solve this?

Thanks

Peder Madsen

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>Is there any way to optimize a PDF file and disallow its editing (security)
>other than through the File > Save As.. dialog in Exchange?  Specifically, 
>I'd
>like to avoid Exchange by using either distiller options or by embedding
>pdfmark commands in my PostScript code prior to distillation.  I looked in 
>the
>PDFMark reference manual but found nothing of help.
Rob,
this is effectively a *must* option for a future Distiller release, but 
the only application that is capable to put security on a PDF file is 
Exchange at the moment.
There's no way to do it with pdfmark because there's no glue for security 
in Distiller.

The only way is that to automate the protection method in Exchange by 
means of a custom plug-in.
We've developed one that does what you need (including optimization) with 
just a mouse click in Exchange.
It can also work in automatic mode, so you can enter a path and all the 
PDF files contained in it (and in relative subfolders if you want) are 
secured automatically.
I think this can be a good compromise, at least until Adobe won't give us 
security options in Distiller (hey, it wouldn't be so hard...).

Contact me privately if you're interested in.

Greetings,
Andrea Valle
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On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, James D. Stevens wrote:
 
> I need an information source. A book, a class, a seminar... something
>From 
http://www.powells.com
a huge bookstore in Portland Or.
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Don,

usually you should be able to use every Twain compatible Scanner. If you select File, Scan, Choose Scanner you should see an entry like "Scanner XY Twain" or so.

Best wishes from Germany

Tom

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I'm new to the list because I've just purchased Acrobat and need some
assistance. I wish to create PDF documents using my Logitech TWAIN
PageScan Color sheet fed scanner. When I start to install Acrobat 3.0,
the list of scanners doesn't show my scanner.  Will my scanner still be
useable to input images/documents for conversion to PDF format? Thanks
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Hi,
Frame Maker, Page Maker and Corel Ventura can do it automaticaly.
Ulf
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>
>Does anybody know of a simple solution to create a TOC for pdfs in a
>directory tree?
>
>I am not talking about a major document management solution for $$$ but
>more about a simple solution that would parse the tree, display directories
>as sub-headlines and then display the regular information field contents
>with the title as a link to the actual pdf file.
>
>Viele Gruesse * Best regards
>
>Sebastian Bautz
>
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> I need some help with the following problem. We have a huge amount
> of ps-files which must be distilled - to one pdf - in the same
> order they are made (by creation date).

Hi Peder,

My Distiller came with RunDirEx.txt (in de extra folder), which is a 
script you can execute in Distiller to compile all PostScript files 
in a folder into a single PDF file. Naturally, but rather unfortunate 
for you, it uses alphabetical order.

Maybe someone on this list knows how to change its behaviour to
creation date order? If not, I guess you could consider adding a
serial number to the filenames in order of creation date. Use
leading zeros, because "11" comes before "2" alphabetically
(001firstfile.ps, 002nextfile.ps, ...).

Good luck,

  Arnoud.
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This is more a director based issue but some one may have come accross 
these problems

I have produced a pdf presentation that incorporates quicktime movies 
that was autherd on a mac  plays perfect  well on a windows 95 pc  a 
collegue has produced a Director based presentation using the same movies 
the presentation plays on the mac also on soft windows 95 but just 
ignores the qt on a pc running Windows 95 there seems to be nothing wrong 
with the programing but somthing is missing that wont let the movies run 
properly fom director anyone any Ideas

Also the same programer is looking at playning JPEGs through a director 
projector  to be accesed from a pdf presentation the problem seems to be 
once  the projector is launched  acrobat quits and then has to relaunch 
which is not acceptable in a presntation anyone solved this problem  I 
know that there are plug in but they are all pc based and I need a mac 
based solution before we commit to a complete pc based solution.

Regard 

Graeme Armitage
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-----Original Message-----
From: Quinton,Kathleen <smtp01!oclc.org!quintonk>
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Date: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 9:10 PM
Subject: RE: [PDF] Batch Optimize


>
>i don't have an answer for you but i need help with the optimize
>function also.  we have lot's of pdf files which need to be optimized
>and tried to figure out a way to automate this function within our daily
>process.  we'd like to incorporate the batch optimize function into our
>daily unix jobstream without having to utilize adobe's online interface.
>our partners FTP us PDF files and we have a series of UNIX processes
>which move the data to the appropriate location at our site.  we'd like
>to be able to invoke the optimize function within our unix processes
>(sort of a command line function).  do you have a person who invoke the
>optimize function or have you figured out how to automate this?
>
>

Hello Kathleen,

Using the Adobe Acrobat Toolkit or the Adobe Acrobat Plugins SDK you can create
a utility to batch optimize your PDFs. I don't know the exact details for UNIX,
because I realized such an utility under DOS/Windows. The toolkit is, however,
mostly platform independent.

Below you find the main source code to realize the utility.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>
#include "acrotk.h"
#include "PrintLib.h"
static ASBool myAuthProc(PDDoc doc);

/*****************************************************************************/

int OptimizePDF(char* InputFile, char* OutputFile, char* ErrorString, int
LenError)
{
// Copies an optimized version of PDF file InputFile to OutputFile
// InputFile and OutputFile may be the same

   PDDoc  docP = 0;
   ASPathName  asPath;
   PDFToolKitInit();
DURING
   asPath = ASPathFromPlatformPath((void*) InputFile );
   docP = PDDocOpen( asPath, NULL, myAuthProc, true );
   asPath = ASPathFromPlatformPath((void*) OutputFile);
   PDDocSave (docP, PDSaveLinearized | PDSaveFull, asPath, NULL, NULL, NULL);
   PDDocClose( docP );

   //AsFileSysReleasePath(NULL, asPath);
   PDFToolKitTerm();
   sprintf(ErrorString, "Optimized %s", InputFile);
   return 0;

HANDLER
  ASGetErrorString(ERRORCODE, ErrorString, LenError - 1);
  return ERRORCODE;
END_HANDLER
}
/*******************************************************************************
*/
/* This shows how to open secured files--you specify the open password
as the client data to PDDocAuthorize(), and the implementation does the
work. Though declared as a void *, pass the string which represents the
password. Use this call instead of the one below:
        docP = PDDocOpen( asPath, NULL, myAuthProc, true );
Your password goes in the last argument to PDDocAuthorize().
In the example below, you'd change "secure" to some string that you
provide.
*/
static ASBool myAuthProc(PDDoc doc)
{
    PDPerms perms;
    perms = PDDocAuthorize(doc, pdPermOpen|pdPermPrint, "secure");
    return true;
}

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Regards,
Erwin van der Linden



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Try Compose!

Regina Nunn
Lucent Technologies

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>Anyone seen or heard of an Acrobat Plug in that would do word or line
>counts?
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At 12:58 PM 1/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
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>
>
>
>From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 01/06/98 12:58 PM
>Last but not least, has anyone noticed that Adobe's FTP site has some very
>interesting dates, i.e., all 97 entries seem to now read 98 as in there are
>file versions dated 8/8/98, etc.
>

Elissa,
This is from our ftp site manager:

"i cannot reproduce this problem using dartmouth fetch 3.01 for the mac.
all the web browsers i tried (win netnav 3.0, win ie4, mac netnav 3.0) do
not display datestamps when visiting our ftp site.

if you want us to track this issue down, we'll need to know:
--  what ftp application, version, and platform they're using
--  exactly what directory they see the problem in

you can also suggest that they try to reproduce it on more than one
computer or in more than one ftp application to isolate the problem."

Would you try these suggestions and let me know if you're still seeing
something. I cannot reproduce this from my UNIX box, either.

Cheers,
Sarah
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It will be the same one.

Sarah

At 09:28 AM 1/7/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>>Did a pundit on this list post recently that Distiller was now on version
>>3.02? Is this true for Windows?
>I've downloaded it following Kurt's link, installed it and got it 
>running. No more about bugs corrections as I use Distiller mainly on the 
>Mac platform.
>
>Now that Sarah said we should have waited an "official" release, should I 
>get the new 3.02 Win version or will it be the same I've already 
>downloaded?
>
>Greetings
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Okay, here's what happened with Acrobat Distiller 3.02.
Due to legal issues, the Distiller 3.02 release can not be posted into a
public area of the Adobe ftp site. All downloads must happen through the
Adobe Web site, instead. But, our ftp manager forgot that little, yet
important detail, and posted the releases to the public area of the Adobe
ftp site. So, when I saw the EXTRA announcement, I reminded our ftp site
manager of the restriction and we pulled them.

Then we discovered that the UNIX releases had not been packaged correctly
and that is where the delay has come. We had to wait for engineering to
repackage the UNIX releases and for QA to verify them. Now that this is
complete, the Web team is quickly trying to finish up the details (CGI
scripts, etc.) to get all the versions posted. But, please give them a few
days to do so (I don't know about where you are, but there's a lot of flu
and cold going around out here).

The Windows, Macintosh, and UNIX versions have not technically changed
between what was posted to the ftp site and what will be available from the
Web site; only the UNIX packaging is different.

Sorry for the confusion.

Sarah
At 12:32 PM 1/7/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>To clear this up (at least from what we know), the reference to a "newer"
>version had more to do with an upcoming  *official* release that had all
>the right legalese in place. I expect it'll be the same version number.
>
>We had seen a notice elsewhere online a few days earlier that an updater
>for Distiller v.3.02 was on Adobe's FTP site. We snagged it, ran it and
>decided it was worthy of mention in EXTRA. It now appears it wasn't *quite*
>ready for wide-spread release -- but should be soon, according to Sarah R's
>posting here yesterday. We've had no problems running the version that was
>temporarily available. Perhaps Sarah or another Adobian can clarify whether
>those who did download that earlier 3.02 version should stop using it for
>any reason (us included!).
>
>rgds ~ Kurt
>===
>
>>If I downloaded the update a couple weeks ago from the ftp site, is there
>>any reason I should re-download from the Web site? (Kurt Foss mentioned
>>"newer" files were being put there--I'm wondering if they will be any
>>different that the ftp versions)?
>>
>>--Keith Kuhn
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Actually, the file does not use alphabetical order on all platforms. What
happens is: According to the instructions in the file, the Distiller asks
the operating system for the next file. It is up to the OS as to what is
the next file. It's been a while since I tested this, but I distinctly
remember that Windows hands files one way, Macintosh another, Novell
another, and UNIX one of those three. Best thing I can recommend is to try
on the different operating systems to see if you can get them in the order
you like.

Sarah

At 10:19 AM 1/8/98 +0000, you wrote:
>
>> I need some help with the following problem. We have a huge amount
>> of ps-files which must be distilled - to one pdf - in the same
>> order they are made (by creation date).
>
>Hi Peder,
>
>My Distiller came with RunDirEx.txt (in de extra folder), which is a 
>script you can execute in Distiller to compile all PostScript files 
>in a folder into a single PDF file. Naturally, but rather unfortunate 
>for you, it uses alphabetical order.
>
>Maybe someone on this list knows how to change its behaviour to
>creation date order? If not, I guess you could consider adding a
>serial number to the filenames in order of creation date. Use
>leading zeros, because "11" comes before "2" alphabetically
>(001firstfile.ps, 002nextfile.ps, ...).
>
>Good luck,
>
>  Arnoud.
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I have any application where I need to put a "Previous Page" arrow and
"Next Page" arrow on each PDF file top and bottom to enable the previous
and next PDF files to be loaded straight from the current PDF file.

The PDF files will have sequential numbers and be logically grouped in the
same directory structures.

Is there any way to automate the placing of the links in each PDF file?

Regards,
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One thing that has helped me is printing out many of the pdf documents 
found on the Acrobat CD. There is quite a lot of info in them.
Virgil
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From: "James D. Stevens" <answrman@pacbell.net>, on 1/7/98 6:26 PM:
I am in serious need of 'INPUT' (as Johnny 5 might say). I converted
from the Xerox Pagis format and am now going full steam putting
Technical and Parts Manuals onto Disk. But... although it's going well
and the links are working correctly, I just know I'm not getting the
file size as small as possible (what format IS most efficient to use for
scanning before PDF conversion?) and that there are methods available to
secure my work so it won't get 'appropriated' by those people that I am
demonstrating it to.

I need an information source. A book, a class, a seminar... something
that won't waste my time showing me the basics that I have been able to
find out on my own (and through this PDF list - Thank you).

I see that a Mark Witkowski is going to publish "The PDF Bible" this
month. A 450 page paperback for $40.00. Anybody know his work? Are there
any other Current Reference Books that are available to help me get the
most out of my work with PDF documents?

Thanks for any help.

Jim Stevens
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Someone had asked earlier about a plug-in to count words or links.

We had been using one called LinkChecker.  There is also one called the
Verity tool that can help with that also.  We should be getting that in
within a few weeks.  I will keep you updated on how it works.

Regina Nunn
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>It is up to the OS as to what is
>the next file. It's been a while since I tested this, but I distinctly
>remember that Windows hands files one way, Macintosh another, Novell
>another, and UNIX one of those three.

I have files in DOS on one PC, who's alpha-numeric names and last date 
modified match
(The last function performed assigns extensions like .AAA, .AAB, .AAC, 
.AAD

So I would expect Distiller to (using RunDir BTW, not RunFile) get them 
in the right order since taking them by date or alphabetically would 
produce the same result.

Yet after using RunDir under Windows 95 on another computer (after 
copying across our Novell network), I have reulting PDFs with pages 
occasionally out of order.

Which is all to say "A-Ha, maybe it's not the OS even, but Novell" as 
suggested above.
Systems Admin. here supposes it has to do with file size: that is, when 
I'm copying across the network, Novell is sending a batch of files at a 
time, and will group them into packages, where a big page may have to 
wait while six small pages get sent, "out of order". Then Distiller for 
Windows and the RunDir procedure take files by date: which is now messed 
up.

Will test this theory out next time I have to do the procedure. No time 
now.
Thanks for the lead, Sarah!

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You can find and buy any of a number of PDF books from
PurePDF -- http://www.purepdf.com -- which itself is a
web-based magazine focused on Acrobat and related issues.
Go to the Library section to find the books; there are
also a number of white papers there for your reference.

Deidre
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vhhuston@switch.com wrote:

> One thing that has helped me is printing out many of the pdf documents
>
> found on the Acrobat CD. There is quite a lot of info in them.
> Virgil
> -------------
> Original Text
> From: "James D. Stevens" <answrman@pacbell.net>, on 1/7/98 6:26 PM:
> I am in serious need of 'INPUT' (as Johnny 5 might say). I converted
> from the Xerox Pagis format and am now going full steam putting
> Technical and Parts Manuals onto Disk. But... although it's going well
>
> and the links are working correctly, I just know I'm not getting the
> file size as small as possible (what format IS most efficient to use
> for
> scanning before PDF conversion?) and that there are methods available
> to
> secure my work so it won't get 'appropriated' by those people that I
> am
> demonstrating it to.
>
> I need an information source. A book, a class, a seminar... something
> that won't waste my time showing me the basics that I have been able
> to
> find out on my own (and through this PDF list - Thank you).
>
> I see that a Mark Witkowski is going to publish "The PDF Bible" this
> month. A 450 page paperback for $40.00. Anybody know his work? Are
> there
> any other Current Reference Books that are available to help me get
> the
> most out of my work with PDF documents?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Jim Stevens
> answrman@pacbell.net
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Sorry, I forgot the platform ... DOS, Windows or PERL/UNIX/win32.

Any ideas appreciated. If we won't find anything we might program it in PERL
anyway, anybody interested in using something like this, too?

Viele Gruesse * Best regards

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Weneed to create a HELp file for a soon to be released book on CD (all
files in PDF).

This is not exactly a pdf list question, but does anybody have any
suggestions or leads to sources of information on creating HELp files ?
i do not like ADOBE format butthere are several other formats out there
that are quite attractive.

The HELP file does not need to be linked to any part of the text
material (the way F1 is used in many programs.)

Many thanks for suggestions and help.

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Is there any possible way to launch Acrobat Reader 3.x and have a
specific PDF file automatically opened (on the Mac)?

If there are more than one copy of Acrobat reader installed on a Mac, 
without knowing if these are same or different versions, can I
associate/indicate to a PDF that, when double clicked, it will have to
load a specific one of those Acrobat reader available.
In other words, when installing a PDF document from a CD-ROM to a user
machine how can I control which Reader will be called up if there is
more than one? (question relative to the Mac only)
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> 
> 
> >It is up to the OS as to what is
> >the next file. It's been a while since I tested this, but I distinctly
> >remember that Windows hands files one way, Macintosh another, Novell
> >another, and UNIX one of those three.
> 
> 
> Yet after using RunDir under Windows 95 on another computer (after 
> copying across our Novell network), I have reulting PDFs with pages 
> occasionally out of order.
> 
I encountered this problem on Unix. I finally realised that RunDirEx was 
processing the files in the order in which they had been inserted into the 
directory. Presumably it follows internal directory tables. Generally files 
were put in the directory in alphabetical order, but not always.
Recreating the directory by copying the files using an alphabetical sort solved
the problem. The other solution was to use RunFileEx and specify the file
ordering.

	Ann

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Dear colleagues,

has somebody of you ever seen a possibility to place PDF within WinWord or Windows Office Applications?

Thank you.

Tom


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Is there any possible way to launch Acrobat Reader 3.x and have a
specific PDF file automatically opened (on the Mac)?

If there are more than one copy of Acrobat reader installed on a Mac,
without knowing if these are same or different versions, can I
associate/indicate to a PDF that, when double clicked, it will have to
load a specific one of those Acrobat reader available.
In other words, when installing a PDF document from a CD-ROM to a user
machine how can I control which Reader will be called up if there is
more than one? (question relative to the Mac only)


--
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>Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 18:26:28 -0800
>From: "James D. Stevens" <answrman@pacbell.net>
>Subject: [PDF] Basic PDF Information
...text deleted...
>I need an information source. A book, a class, a seminar... something
>that won't waste my time showing me the basics that I have been able to
>find out on my own (and through this PDF list - Thank you).
...text deleted...
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Jim Stevens

Jim -

As a starting point, have you read the PDF 1.2 specification?

Try
"http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/PDFS/TN/PDFSPEC.PDF"
or "ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/devrelations/devtechnotes/pdffiles/"
and "PDFSPEC.PDF".

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It depends on what aspects of creating a help file you're after and in what
format you intend the help file to be (is it also going to be an acrobat
file?).

If it's the structure, considerations etc you might try looking at the
developer sections of Microsoft (e.g. the msdn site) or Apple (the developer
world site). Both obviously provide guidance for application designers.

If you want to produce a help file in non-acrobat format along the lines of
the typical "windows" help file MS produce a freely downloadable compiler
and template for Word which takes a rich text format document, project file
specifying options and graphics and produces the usual .hlp file. Although
the compiler is PC specific the help file also works on the Mac.

It's difficult to be more specific without knowing what direction you're
coming from...


Nic.
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Huntingdon,                for information management & Adobe
Cambs.                    Acrobat integration from within your
UK.                           favourite word processor ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Bosko Loncarevic <pitech@fox.nstn.ca>
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Date: 08 January 1998 17:06
Subject: [PDF] Creating a HELP File


>
>Weneed to create a HELp file for a soon to be released book on CD (all
>files in PDF).
>
>This is not exactly a pdf list question, but does anybody have any
>suggestions or leads to sources of information on creating HELp files ?
>i do not like ADOBE format butthere are several other formats out there
>that are quite attractive.
>
>The HELP file does not need to be linked to any part of the text
>material (the way F1 is used in many programs.)
>
>Many thanks for suggestions and help.
>
>--  bdl
>====================================================
>Dr. Bosko Loncarevic, P. Eng. -
>PINETREE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>     e-mail: pitech@fox.nstn.ca
>     Web site: http://fox.nstn.ca/~pitech/cd-books/
>     Phone: 902-468-3392      Fax:  902-468-6865
>     snail-mail: Torrington Place, Suite 302
>                 780 Windmill Road,  DARTMOUTH, NS, B3B 1T3
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Simon:
Ambia's Compose product has a Copy Link tool which will do exactly what =
you want. Simply make the initial "next page" or "previous page" link, =
then clone it throughout a document or page range.
Compose is a Windows plug-in to Acrobat Exchange. More information, and =
an evaluation version, can be found on our Web site (www.ambia.com). Or =
give me a call.

Karl Schmidtmann
Ambia
707-829-7500
kschmidt@ambia.com

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To: 	pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Subject: 	[PDF] Automating previous and next page arrow links


I have any application where I need to put a "Previous Page" arrow and
"Next Page" arrow on each PDF file top and bottom to enable the previous
and next PDF files to be loaded straight from the current PDF file.

The PDF files will have sequential numbers and be logically grouped in =
the
same directory structures.

Is there any way to automate the placing of the links in each PDF file?

Regards,
	Simon
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>
>     Adobe Illustrator 7.0 has the ability to open and save pdf pages. SO 
>     you might be able to get done what you need by...
>

To my knowledge Illustrator only saves PDF 1.1 format, so certain things 
that are important for prepress may get lost.

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	That is correct about the UNIX. I don't think they are planning
	to ever release it - as I have had the beta for over 9 months
and
	found no problems with it. Actually I think " please don't quote
me
	on this" that they are thinking of phasing out Exchange from
UNIX
	and just keeping the Reader
	
	Christopher

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> From:	llerasj.atc@gao.gov [SMTP:llerasj.atc@gao.gov]
> Sent:	Wednesday, December 31, 1997 8:24 AM
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> 
> 
>      Thank you Cory.  I'll try it. Happy New Year!
>      
>      jal
>      
>      
>      Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 11:04:24 -0500 
>      From: "Cory Snavely" <snavely@beacon.com>
>      Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for December-26-97 [V2 #107]
>      
>      llerasj.atc@gao.gov wrote:
>      
>      Does anyone out there know if a user can use Acrobat Reader to
> fill in 
>      a form created using Acrobat's Form feature (PDF file)?  I read 
>      somewhere that Exchange Forms can be filled in using Reader or 
>      Exchange.  Is this true?  I appreciated any help.
>      
>      Yes, it's true.  That's precisely how it's designed to work.
>      
>      Beware, though, that the forms plug-in is not available for UNIX 
>      platforms. 
>      (Somebody please correct me if you have *proof* that this is
> wrong.)
>      
>      Cory Snavely
>      The Beacon Group
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Anyone on this list use automation processes, such as Open 1.1 and presswise
or similar software?

Also, anyone have success producing spot color out put through rips?

Randall

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>> 
>> I and some others on the inkjet list think we've determined that color 
>> shade scales (or gradients) have less range when printed from a PDF than 
>> they do printed in Photoshop 4.01 or Freehand 7.02....
>> Can someone confirm this as a limitation of PDF? Or would you 
>> characterize it as a PDF/Epson interface thing. Or would you suspect my 
>> system or tests? (I have a Power Tower Pro 225.)
>
>It isn't a limitation of PDF - remembering that PDF is a file format. PDF 
>can contain
>256 levels of greyscale or 256x256x256 = 24 bit colour.

..and if the gradient is CMYK (either from Adobe PageMaker, Adobe 
Illustrator, Adobe PhotoShop, Macromind FreeHand or Quark XPress) and 
with the Advanced setting "convert CMYK Images to RGB" turned off, it 
also supports DeviceCMYK, which is 256x256x256x256 (4.2 billion colors, 
or 32 bit color
>
>I have demonstrated to my satisfaction that the right input will get the 
>full range
>in a PDF file. 

Exact-a-mundo!
>
>It might be a limitation of the output, either in Acrobat or your printer 
>driver; or of
>the method you used to create the PDF.

I will bet my money on Aandi's "method you used to create the PDF" being 
the problem.



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>>Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 18:26:28 -0800
>>From: "James D. Stevens" <answrman@pacbell.net>
>>Subject: [PDF] Basic PDF Information
>...text deleted...
>>I need an information source. A book, a class, a seminar... something
>>that won't waste my time showing me the basics that I have been able to
>>find out on my own (and through this PDF list - Thank you).
>...text deleted...
>>Thanks for any help.

Possibly you might want to get a book by Professor Frank Ramono of the 
Institute of Technology and is called "PDF Printing and Publishing: The 
Next Revolution After Guttenberg"

You can order it through Agfa...either call 800.395.7007 (operators 
standing by!)*grin* or by going to www.agfahome.com and go to 
publications link...

This is sort of prepress and printing oriented though...
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>I have some already formatted and linked PDFs that I need to alter
>graphically. I would prefer to not have to rebuild this from scratch.
>
>I need to do some simple patching of graphics (cover up some stuff on
>certain pages). Is there any way to do this?

In the forms tool, you could cover up something with a blank field...or 
you could buy PitStop from Enfocus and do certain types of editing and 
"creating" of certain types of objects...for more info, go to:

www.enfocus.com


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>Well you get the picture. I need to come up with a standard setting in
>distiller for the watch folder. Is there one that you have found to be
>satisfactory for printing to film and color printers using quark layouts? We
>print business cards, postcards etc. We are a magnet producer and also work
>with a lot of 4cp items. We print to film for offset and silkscreening. Even
>a good book somewhere would help!

go to:

http://www.jahn.org/DistillerSetUp/Default.html

this should help get you started...

Possibly you might want to get a book by Professor Frank Ramono of the 
Institute of Technology and is called "PDF Printing and Publishing: The 
Next Revolution After Guttenberg"

You can order it through Agfa...either call 800.395.7007 (operators 
standing by!)*grin* or by going to www.agfahome.com and go to 
publications link...

This is a prepress and printing oriented book...



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>Why can't I use PostScript fonts with LightningDraw/WEB?

< -- text deleted -->

>This is a result of a bug in the installer for Acrobat Reader 2.1. Acrobat 
uses 
>a pair of Multiple Master fonts for drawing text when the original font used 
in
> the document is unavailable. Unfortunately, the Acrobat Reader 2.1 installer 
>mistakenly installs the QuickDraw GX versions of the fonts if GXGraphics is 
>installed, and ATM reports the error every time you start up.

<-- text deleted -->

>The program is fine and if you go through the process of "enabling" all
>of your postscript fonts to Type 1 GX, you can actually use the fonts
>from with...

<-- text deleted -->

so, whats your point? 

Adobe, thoes meanies, they made all that Acrobat, ATM and Type 1 font 
stuff work on so many different platforms and this all but killed 
QuickdrawGX? 

And what about TrueType? Why won't Adobe ship TrueType fonts with every 
Adobe PostScript RIP?

*evil grin*

At the risk or sounding a tad sarcastic, and honestly, i'm not.

okay, I lied...but really, it is just because I am tired, and I am mean 
when I am tired, but hey, I am forced to answer 738 emails because my 
modem died over the holidays...you can pick on me back someday.

Honestly...My read here is that you expect that an application that runs 
only under Apples Quickdraw GX (which has been shot and killed by Steve 
Jobs some time ago) to be supported and compatible with ATM and Adobe 
Acrobat products, all of which need to work on Mac OS, Windows 95, 
Windows NT, DEC Alphas version of NT, Unix and Active X.

My guess here is that applications that rely on GX and can only run in 
the Mac are not high on Adobes agenda. I liked Lightning Draw and its 
transparency gadgets, with objects that can be painted as light or ink 
(additive or subtractive)... but like Open Doc, Apple killed it and is 
sprinting development wise tward Rapsody/OpenStep/Display PostScript 
thingees...so I guess what I am saying is I think you may find yourself 
pounding your head repeatedly into a brick wall at the end of a blind 
alley.

But it would be way cool if it worked. Best of luck in your search. I 
mean, my son has a cool Atari emulator that lets him play "pong" on his 
PC...hey, it might be out there.

Myself, I just want Adobe to keep up the good work. And not to sweat dead 
GX stuff. 

appologies in advance.



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>Anyone on this list use automation processes, such as Open 1.1 and presswise
>or similar software?

We are using Apogee from Agfa. Of course, I work for Agfa, so I guess 
that would make sence 

*grin*
>
>Also, anyone have success producing spot color out put through rips?

Yes. It is important to understand how to set up your application 
properly so it will retain the spot colors properly, drag a few things to 
the same level of the distiller application, set up Distiller properly 
and either use Lantanas Crakerjack plug-in (www.lantanarips.com) or have 
a Rip that will support in rip separations...

if you go to:

http://www.jahn.org/DistillerSetUp/Default.html

I have an html page that walks you through this, or if you would rather 
have it as a pdf, download it from:

http://www.jahn.org/pdf3/DistillerSetup.pdf

Happy PDF-ing..




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>     Does anyone out there know if a user can use Acrobat Reader to fill in 
>     a form created using Acrobat's Form feature (PDF file)?  I read 
>     somewhere that Exchange Forms can be filled in using Reader or 
>     Exchange.  Is this true?  I appreciated any help.

all of the FDF (forms data format) features are not available via Adobe 
Acrobat Reader. For the best results, use Exchange.


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>Can someone confirm this as a limitation of PDF? Or would you 
>characterize it as a PDF/Epson interface thing. Or would you suspect my 
>system or tests? (I have a Power Tower Pro 225.)
>
>Lastly, has anyone come up against this and solved it? (I've tried a 
>Photoshop transfer function, but that requires an EPS file format that 
>the serial driver can't handle outside of PS. I have Birmy PowerRIP 4.1, 
>but don't like Stochastic Always dithering.)

Can you can confirm that the person distilling the file to PDF did set up 
the Job Options-Advanced settings dialoge box correctly (that is, turn 
OFF or uncheck the "Convert CMYK Images to RGB" and also, under the Color 
Conversions section of that dialge box, selected "Unchanged" -- if not, I 
am clueless -- but honestly, I would bet the PDF file was not created 
properly -- that is, the person who made the PDF file set up distiller 
differently.



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Peder,

what do you think about using good old "DOS' dir command"?

You can get a textfile of files sorted by date with: "dir /od /a-d > sorted.txt" Unfortunately the sort is necessary for every folder. 

The other opportunity is do generate a long list of all files in all subfolders (dir /a-d/s) and handle the directory name and process the sort within your own programm.

Best wishes from Germany.

Tom


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Von:  Peder Madsen[SMTP:pma@stibo.dk]
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Hi Tom

>which operating system do you use?
I'm going to use it on a Win 95 system.

>Do you have access to some basic programming languages, e.g. Visual Basic
>within Microsoft Word For Windows or for Macintosh? Then it should be easy.
That was also my first thought but I can't solve to make a date-sortet
dirlist in Visual Basic... Maybe because I have never learned much Visual
Basic. ;-)

I have made a UNIX-script which seems to have solved the problem, but It
isn't the best solution.

But thanks anyway...

/Peder

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Dear Wallace,

thank you for your support. Unfortunately my question was not precise. 

I do not want to link files to WinWord documents. I what to place, see and print them (I think it can only work for one page PDF documents) like I can place TIFF and EPS and so on.

I know that Adobe sells a "placed PDF" source for developers, to place PDF. In fact internally an EPS is passed to the invoking application. But I did not see any import filter for MS Office applications.

Best wishes from Germany.

Tom


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Dear Tom:

For Word and Powerpoint, try creating an object link to the pdf file.
Another options is to insert the file through the insert menu. The pdf
file will open in its separate window. ope this helps... 

ws 

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>Dear colleagues,
>
>has somebody of you ever seen a possibility to place PDF within WinWord or
>Windows Office Applications?
>
>Thank you.
>
>Tom
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Hi,

We are using the Scitex Brisque and do a lot of spot color work from distilled
files.

You have to set up distiller properly and use a plugin in exchange to export to
postscript, we do all the exporting from the PC using a plugin that is available
for free (www.hautron.com/utilities) that is like export PS that comes with
Exchange for the MAC but much better (it handles TrueType fonts perfectly). We
don't use Lantanas Crakerjack since the Scitex Brisque lets you combine
individual or multiple Spot color and also the plugin that I mentioned for free
gives us much far more functionality like exporting every Page as an EPS etc.

David Asaph

mjahn wrote:

> >Anyone on this list use automation processes, such as Open 1.1 and presswise
> >or similar software?
>
> We are using Apogee from Agfa. Of course, I work for Agfa, so I guess
> that would make sence
>
> *grin*
> >
> >Also, anyone have success producing spot color out put through rips?
>
> Yes. It is important to understand how to set up your application
> properly so it will retain the spot colors properly, drag a few things to
> the same level of the distiller application, set up Distiller properly
> and either use Lantanas Crakerjack plug-in (www.lantanarips.com) or have
> a Rip that will support in rip separations...
>
> if you go to:
>
> http://www.jahn.org/DistillerSetUp/Default.html
>
> I have an html page that walks you through this, or if you would rather
> have it as a pdf, download it from:
>
> http://www.jahn.org/pdf3/DistillerSetup.pdf
>
> Happy PDF-ing..
>
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Hi,

The link below says that you have to save each page of Quark XPress as EPS files
to maintain spot colors, we distill files that were sent to print through Adobe
PS printer 8.3.1 and AdopePS 8.5.1 without any problems with spot colors, what
you should do is use a Quark PDF from Scitex or use a PPD that support CMYK color
space.

David Asaph

> http://www.jahn.org/DistillerSetUp/Default.html
>
> I have an html page that walks you through this, or if you would rather
> have it as a pdf, download it from:
>
> http://www.jahn.org/pdf3/DistillerSetup.pdf
>
> Happy PDF-ing..
>
> Michael Jahn
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>>Also, anyone have success producing spot color out put through rips?
>
>Yes. It is important to understand how to set up your application 
>properly so it will retain the spot colors properly, drag a few things to 
>the same level of the distiller application, set up Distiller properly 
>and either use Lantanas Crakerjack plug-in (www.lantanarips.com) or have 
>a Rip that will support in rip separations...

Keep in mind that duotines/multitones, cool blends in XPress, monochrome 
TIFFs colored in XPress (probably same in other apps) don't work in PDF 
as soon as you use spot colors (unless you distill already separated 
plates ...).

Olaf Druemmer



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>Possibly you might want to get a book by Professor Frank Ramono of the 
>Institute of Technology and is called "PDF Printing and Publishing: The 
>Next Revolution After Guttenberg"

'Gutenberg', it should say...

>You can order it through Agfa...either call 800.395.7007 (operators 
>standing by!)*grin* or by going to www.agfahome.com and go to 
>publications link...
>
>This is a prepress and printing oriented book...

... and an overly optimistic one as well ... (sometimes a few hints about 
limitations and problems would have helped a lot).

There is also a German version available now. It is useful as an 
introduction, but be careful and double check, if things really work the 
way they are advertised in the book.

Gave me a strange feeling reading the book, see how optimistic the 
authors were, and then realize it was a group of students around Frank 
Romano who probably did the major portion of the work, maybe Adobe and 
Agfa gave them too many benefits...

Olaf Druemmer


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Tom Thiersch wrote:

> The solution for me has been to use the following settings in
> Acrocat.INI:
>
>      DocumentWordSectionsSelection=2
>      IndexAvailableGroupSize=16
>      DocumentWordSectionsLarge=1600000
>
> (Leave all others at their default values).
>
> Do NOT select "Optimize for CD-ROM" !
>
> Delete whatever copy of the index you currently have;  don't
> "purge" it -- I
> mean really go out there and delete all of the index-related
> subdirectories
> by hand!
>

Thanks to all who responded to my plea.  Unfortunately,
everything tried didn't work.  And for those interested, I did
open the suspect files in exchange (there were various files that
the index bombed on).  Also, everything was done on a stand-alone
machine not over a network.

Fortunately another machine opened up with more RAM (96 MB
compared to my 32 MB) and I used it to just try and process
things faster.  IT WORKED!!  I didn't have to change the 'ini'
file at all although I didn't select the "optimize for CD-ROM"
since the consensus was to bypass it.

Moral of the story.....If catalog bombs on Windows NT for no
explicable reason.....try more RAM.  It definitely needs more
than the average.....

Thanks for everyone's help.

Tracie DeVoe
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tracie DeVoe
Logistic Services International
1851 Ehringhaus St. #101
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Morning All,

I am building a list of PDF sites on our website. I am interested in linking
to sites which have plug-ins, pdf information, how-to etc.

Please submit your PDF website URL to our PDF Hot Links page at
http://www.roundtable.com.au/PDFHotLinks.htm

I have started the list. Please add a description for your site if you
already listed (or ask me to remove the link).

regards,

Karl De Abrew
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>
>     I use the Microsoft Web server IIS 2.0 + Index server 1.1
>     I also setup the PDF filter for the index server provided by Adobe
>     which allow the user to search PDF on the Web.
>
>     The problem I got is that I cannot display the Document Information of
>     the PDF files in the result page.
>     The only "Doc info" available is the title.
>     When I want to display the Author Information, the field is empty.
>
>     Does anybody succeed in displaying some document information on the
>     page result ?
>
>     Marc Medjad



I experienced the very same problem already two months ago and posted the
problem in this mailing list, the pdf news group and the appropriate Microsoft
news groups. So far I didn't get any answer. Hope to know what is going wrong
one day.......

Regards,
Erwin

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mjahn wrote:
> 
> >     Does anyone out there know if a user can use Acrobat Reader to fill in
> >     a form created using Acrobat's Form feature (PDF file)?  I read
> >     somewhere that Exchange Forms can be filled in using Reader or
> >     Exchange.  Is this true?  I appreciated any help.
> 
> all of the FDF (forms data format) features are not available via Adobe
> Acrobat Reader. For the best results, use Exchange.

Careful with the blanket statements there, and on old threads no less.

What you say regarding FDF is true, but then again Acrobat Reader is perfectly
capable of the following:

* filling in forms
* printing and/or submitting the form field values to a web server

which is what the original question was, anyway.

BTW, "best results" is subjective.  I got "best results" from Reader on my last
project because it needed to be distributed to thousands of people, who had
neither Exchange nor interest in buying it, and there was no need to produce FDF
at all.

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     I use the Microsoft Web server IIS 2.0 + Index server 1.1
     I also setup the PDF filter for the index server provided by Adobe 
     which allow the user to search PDF on the Web.
     
     The problem I got is that I cannot display the Document Information of 
     the PDF files in the result page.
     The only "Doc info" available is the title.
     When I want to display the Author Information, the field is empty.
     
     Does anybody succeed in displaying some document information on the 
     page result ?
     
     Marc Medjad
     
     
     
     

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Hi Karl,

The URL HotLinks you have listed does not work.

Karl De Abrew wrote:
> 
> Morning All,
> 
> I am building a list of PDF sites on our website. I am interested in linking
> to sites which have plug-ins, pdf information, how-to etc.
> 
> Please submit your PDF website URL to our PDF Hot Links page at
> http://www.roundtable.com.au/PDFHotLinks.htm
> 
> I have started the list. Please add a description for your site if you
> already listed (or ask me to remove the link).
> 
> regards,
> 
> Karl De Abrew
> Round Table Solutions
> karl@roundtable.com.au
> http://www.roundtable.com.au
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Dino:
I was able to access the site with www.roundtable.com.au   then clicking on the hotlinks link.

Karl Schmidtmann
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Hi Karl,

The URL HotLinks you have listed does not work.

Karl De Abrew wrote:
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mjahn has said:

>Can you can confirm that the person distilling the file to PDF did set up 
>the Job Options-Advanced settings dialoge box correctly (that is, turn 
>OFF or uncheck the "Convert CMYK Images to RGB" and also, under the Color 
>Conversions section of that dialge box, selected "Unchanged" -- if not, I 
>am clueless -- but honestly, I would bet the PDF file was not created 
>properly -- that is, the person who made the PDF file set up distiller 
>differently.

Well, I'm that person and a mere mortal at that. But, in this case, I 
tend to think the PFDs (several) by myself and others were OK -- because 
(in my case) they looked fine onscreen and printed with appropriate grays 
to my b&w laser printer. (I could forward a longer post that describes my 
procedure in making them, but probably not necessary.)

When printed to my Epson Stylus Color 800 inkjet, shades of 10% or so 
would drop to white and the darkest shades would go solid. Othes report 
the same. Yet the same Epson serial driver will print 33-step color 
gradients in RGBCMYK and distinguish every step from Photoshop and 
Freehand (well, 97% and 100% are pretty darn close but I think I see a 
difference).

PDF would be a superior method for "Postscript proofing" if this problem 
could be solved. (I have Birmy PowerRIP 4.1 and neither my clients nor I 
like its dithering of images.)

Glad your modem is back.

chuck miller
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Subject: [PDF] Bug in distiller ? (Character bounding boxes)
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We've hit an inconsistency between printed PostScript and distilled PDF that is causing us a few headaches.

The following short PostScript program gives completely different results on printing it directly to a printer than it does when distilled (Distiller 3.0) and displayed in Acrobat.

The problem comes in a program trying to position accents itself (it's not our program, but we have to deal with the output) and using PostScript operators to try and calculate the size of the accents to position them. The short example program displays a gray box around the resulting bounding box calculated for each character. If you print it to a printer you will see a gray bow just around the accent. If you distill it and display the PDF, the bounding box drops down to the baseline.

Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is it a known bug? If you try my program do you get the same thing?

Any help would be appreciated.

Nick Parker npar@berger-levrault.fr
Berger-Levrault, France

-- cut here --
%!PS
% Show flattenpath for character
%
/showbbox
{
/y exch def
/x exch def
/ch exch def
x y moveto ch true charpath flattenpath pathbbox
/ury exch def /urx exch def
/lly exch def /llx exch def
llx lly moveto urx lly lineto
urx ury lineto llx ury lineto
.7 setgray fill
0 setgray
x y moveto ch show
} def
/Helvetica findfont 50 scalefont setfont
(a) 72 72 showbbox
(\303) 72 144 showbbox
showpage
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>When printed to my Epson Stylus Color 800 inkjet, shades of 10% or so 
>would drop to white and the darkest shades would go solid. Othes report 
>the same. Yet the same Epson serial driver will print 33-step color 
>gradients in RGBCMYK and distinguish every step from Photoshop and 
>Freehand (well, 97% and 100% are pretty darn close but I think I see a 
>difference).
>
>PDF would be a superior method for "Postscript proofing" if this problem 
>could be solved. (I have Birmy PowerRIP 4.1 and neither my clients nor I 
>like its dithering of images.)
Can you send me privately the PDF files that print oddly?
I'll do test them because I'm sure that a correct file should print 
correctly.

Greetings,
Andrea Valle
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I've been able to reproduce the problem you reported in the
accent positioning example: with ghostscript 5.10 and Sun Solaris 2.6
pageview, the accent has a tight grey box around it.  When distilled
with Adobe Acrobat Distiller 3.0 on Sun Solaris 2.6, and viewed in
Acrobat Acrobat Reader 3.01, the accent sits at the top of a tall
gray box.

The error is definitely in the PDF file, because ghostscript 5.10,
which can read .pdf files, shows exactly the same (wrong) appearance.

If I use ghostscript's ps2pdf script to create the .pdf file, the
appearance is correct with both ghostscript and acroread.

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>The link below says that you have to save each page of Quark XPress as EPS 
>files to maintain spot colors, we distill files that were sent to print 
through 
>Adobe PS printer 8.3.1 and AdopePS 8.5.1 without any problems with spot 
colors.

Yes, this is true...especially with large multipage documents, it is 
silly to consider saving individual pages as eps...

>what you should do is use a Quark PDF from Scitex or use a PPD that support 
>CMYK color space.

Here I will suggest that we have run into problems using many imagesetter 
PPDs (not related to spot colors) that have caused us to recomment using 
the Acrobat Distiller PPD and or PDF.

Thanks for your comments, I will try and update my page ASAP!


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         Reply to:   Re: [PDF] automate workflow/spot colors
mjahn wrote:
>Thanks for your comments, I will try and update my page ASAP!

Michael,

I just visited you site; very well done. It is a good and quick reference for prepress pdf'ers.

In your recommendations, you mention the Downsampling option. Maybe you can shed some light on this feature, the particulars of which have not been elaborated on by any Adobian that I've heard so far. In particular, I'm talking about the Downsampling option only working on images who's effective resolution is a multiple of the Downsample to dpi. For example, if the Downsample to dpi is set to 300, only images 600 dpi (should really be ppi) or greater will be downsampled - or something like this.

I remember I think Gary C. acknowledge that something like this happens, but he offered no specifics. Now for the opinion part: THIS REALLY STINKS! Most images in this industry are saved between 200 and 300 ppi. I myself use 225 ppi (1.5 X 150 lpi), and so if I Downsample to 225 even a 400 ppi image (which is a gross waste of hard disk, band width and RIP time) will remain unaffected by the downsample.

Does anyone have specifics about this quirk?

Dennis Walker                  dennisw@inpractice.net
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Dave Tamburello would like to recall the message, "[PDF] Automating previous and next page arrow links".
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Another way to approach automatic navigation links is to create form =
fields as buttons with an action of "Execute Menu Item".  Select =
View>Previous Page etc., to set the action. You can automatically =
duplicate the fields with the Edit>Fields>Duplicate feature in Exchange. =
  At the beginning and end of individual documents, set the action to =
Open File.  Feel free to e-mail or call with any further questions about =
this method.

David M. Tamburello
Training Instructor/Project Manager
Adobe EPS
(616) 954-9500 ext 246 phone
(616) 954-9402 fax
TT: (800) 649-3777
www.digidox.com

-----Original Message-----
From:	Karl Schmidtmann [SMTP:kschmidtmann@ambia.com]
Sent:	Thursday, January 08, 1998 1:01 PM
To:	'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'
Subject:	RE: [PDF] Automating previous and next page arrow links

Simon:
Ambia's Compose product has a Copy Link tool which will do exactly what =
you want. Simply make the initial "next page" or "previous page" link, =
then clone it throughout a document or page range.
Compose is a Windows plug-in to Acrobat Exchange. More information, and =
an evaluation version, can be found on our Web site (www.ambia.com). Or =
give me a call.

Karl Schmidtmann
Ambia
707-829-7500
kschmidt@ambia.com

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Sent: 	Thursday, January 08, 1998 5:22 AM
To: 	pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Subject: 	[PDF] Automating previous and next page arrow links


I have any application where I need to put a "Previous Page" arrow and
"Next Page" arrow on each PDF file top and bottom to enable the previous
and next PDF files to be loaded straight from the current PDF file.

The PDF files will have sequential numbers and be logically grouped in =
the
same directory structures.

Is there any way to automate the placing of the links in each PDF file?

Regards,
	Simon
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David:

At DSI, we recomend that clients (and others) do NOT use the
"duplication fields" feature in Exchange.  For one, it adds horrendously
, and unnecessarily, to the file size.  It is also our experience that,
once fields are duplicated, Exchange will reliably crash if one
incidence of the duplicated form field is modified in any way (deleted,
for example).

Far better to use a tool such as Ambia's Compose, which offers several
options in automated linking of zones on the page and unique character
strings.

David Tamburello wrote:
> 
> Another way to approach automatic navigation links is to create form fields as buttons with an action of "Execute Menu Item".  Select View>Previous Page etc., to set the action. You can automatically duplicate the fields with the Edit>Fields>Duplicate feature in Exchange.   At the beginning and end of individual documents, set the action to Open File.  Feel free to e-mail or call with any further questions about this method.
> 
> David M. Tamburello
> Training Instructor/Project Manager
> Adobe EPS
> (616) 954-9500 ext 246 phone
> (616) 954-9402 fax
> TT: (800) 649-3777
> www.digidox.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Karl Schmidtmann [SMTP:kschmidtmann@ambia.com]
> Sent:   Thursday, January 08, 1998 1:01 PM
> To:     'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'
> Subject:        RE: [PDF] Automating previous and next page arrow links
> 
> Simon:
> Ambia's Compose product has a Copy Link tool which will do exactly what you want. Simply make the initial "next page" or "previous page" link, then clone it throughout a document or page range.
> Compose is a Windows plug-in to Acrobat Exchange. More information, and an evaluation version, can be found on our Web site (www.ambia.com). Or give me a call.
> 
> Karl Schmidtmann
> Ambia
> 707-829-7500
> kschmidt@ambia.com
> 
> ----------
> From:   Simon Tanner[SMTP:S.G.Tanner@herts.ac.uk]
> Sent:   Thursday, January 08, 1998 5:22 AM
> To:     pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
> Subject:        [PDF] Automating previous and next page arrow links
> 
> I have any application where I need to put a "Previous Page" arrow and
> "Next Page" arrow on each PDF file top and bottom to enable the previous
> and next PDF files to be loaded straight from the current PDF file.
> 
> The PDF files will have sequential numbers and be logically grouped in the
> same directory structures.
> 
> Is there any way to automate the placing of the links in each PDF file?
> 
> Regards,
>         Simon
> 

-- 

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I think this is the Distiller 3.01 that doesn't put the file name in the
Index files anymore.
Acrobat Catalog has the same problem.
This problem didn't occur when using the Distiller 3.0. It's the same for
mac and PC

BR

Johan Leide

>>
>>     I use the Microsoft Web server IIS 2.0 + Index server 1.1
>>     I also setup the PDF filter for the index server provided by Adobe
>>     which allow the user to search PDF on the Web.
>>
>>     The problem I got is that I cannot display the Document Information of
>>     the PDF files in the result page.
>>     The only "Doc info" available is the title.
>>     When I want to display the Author Information, the field is empty.
>>
>>     Does anybody succeed in displaying some document information on the
>>     page result ?
>>
>>     Marc Medjad
>
>
>
>I experienced the very same problem already two months ago and posted the
>problem in this mailing list, the pdf news group and the appropriate Microsoft
>news groups. So far I didn't get any answer. Hope to know what is going wrong
>one day.......
>
>Regards,
>Erwin
>
>_____________________________________________________________
>Erwin A.R. van der Linden
>Oce-Technologies B.V.         Phone: ++31 77 3594841
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Hi Gang!

I was distilling PS files from a floppy using Distiller 3.01.  The jobs
distilled fine, but Distiller put them on the root!  (C:\)!!  I can't
find where to indicate where the file should be going - if it wasn't
going to put it on the floppy, I certainly wouldn't choose the root as
the target directory.

Is it looking at the watched folder list for this indication? Right now
I don't have any watched folders set up.

thx -

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Hi:

Has anyone noticed any compatibility issues with Acrobat Exchange 3.01 and Acrobat Reader 3.0?

Thanks
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>In your recommendations, you mention the Downsampling option. 

vs subsampling...

>Maybe you 
>can shed some light on this feature, the particulars of which have not 
>been elaborated on by any Adobian that I've heard so far. In particular, 
>I'm talking about the Downsampling option only working on images who's 
>effective resolution is a multiple of the Downsample to dpi.

> For example, 
>if the Downsample to dpi is set to 300, only images 600 dpi (should really 
>be ppi) or greater will be downsampled - or something like this.

My understanding of this is something like 1.5 times the actual original 
ppi...so...if you entered that all images should be downsampled to 300, 
and you had an image that may have been 300, but may have been scaled (in 
a Quark XPress picture box) 75%, well, this would make it 400 ppi, not 
enogh to make the Downsampling to kick in...it will kick in when it gets 
to 450 ppi...otherwise, it would leave it alone...
>
>I remember I think Gary C. acknowledge that something like this happens, 
>but he offered no specifics. Now for the opinion part: THIS REALLY STINKS! 
>Most images in this industry are saved between 200 and 300 ppi. I myself 
>use 225 ppi (1.5 X 150 lpi), and so if I Downsample to 225 even a 400 ppi 
>image (which is a gross waste of hard disk, band width and RIP time) will 
>remain unaffected by the downsample.

Actually, it should downsample..probably to 337.5-or is it once it is 
past 337.5, it downsamples to the 225 ppi you set Distiller to?...BTW, 
how are you determining what it downsampled to? Using Callas pdf 
inspector?
>
>Does anyone have specifics about this quirk?

I know it is quirky, but...so is Mike Tyson, and he makes lots of money 
too, but I would not tell him he was quiky to his face   *smile*.

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I have noticed that a small number of people are having trouble adding hot
links to our site.

You may mail your link information directly to me karl@roundtable.com.au as
a workaround.

But if you could also include your browser type, and OS type it would be
much appreciated. I have a feeling that something is amiss and I would like
to solve this problem asap.

Thank you in advance.

Karl De Abrew
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>
>Hi Karl,
>
>The URL HotLinks you have listed does not work.
>
>Karl De Abrew wrote:
>>
>> Morning All,
>>
>> I am building a list of PDF sites on our website. I am interested in
linking
>> to sites which have plug-ins, pdf information, how-to etc.
>>
>> Please submit your PDF website URL to our PDF Hot Links page at
>> http://www.roundtable.com.au/PDFHotLinks.htm


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Please add your hotlinks as described below.

I missed typed the URL on my previous post.

Karl De Abrew
Round Table Solutions
karl@roundtable.com.au
http://www.roundtable.com.au

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>Dino:
>I was able to access the site with www.roundtable.com.au   then clicking on
the hotlinks link.
>
>Karl Schmidtmann
>Ambia
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         Reply to:   Re: [PDF] automate workflow/spot colors
mjahn wrote:
>Actually, it should downsample..probably to 337.5-or is it once it is >past 337.5, it downsamples to the 225 ppi you set Distiller to?...BTW, >how are you determining what it downsampled to? Using Callas pdf >inspector?

I would open the PDF in Illustrator and use the Document Info:Object Info to check resolution. When I did some testing this way, I seem to remember the 2X multiplier being the magic number, but I don't remember for sure. 
Dennis Walker                  dennisw@inpractice.net
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Date: Friday, January 09, 1998 12:36 AM
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>
>>Also, anyone have success producing spot color out put through rips?
>
>Yes. It is important to understand how to set up your application
>properly so it will retain the spot colors properly, drag a few things to
>the same level of the distiller application, set up Distiller properly
>and either use Lantanas Crakerjack plug-in (www.lantanarips.com) or have
>a Rip that will support in rip separations...
>
>if you go to:
>
>http://www.jahn.org/DistillerSetUp/Default.html
>
>I have an html page that walks you through this, or if you would rather
>have it as a pdf, download it from:
>
>
>
>Michael Jahn
>PDF Evangelist
>Agfa-Gevaert N.V.
>200 Ballardvale St. MS 200-4-5H
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Perhaps I missread but i thought saving as eps doesn't allow good reading of
the file, like correct page size, etc?


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I've been able to reproduce the problem you reported in the
accent positioning example: with ghostscript 5.10 and Sun Solaris 2.6
pageview, the accent has a tight grey box around it.  When distilled
with Adobe Acrobat Distiller 3.0 on Sun Solaris 2.6, and viewed in
Acrobat Acrobat Reader 3.01, the accent sits at the top of a tall
gray box.

The error is definitely in the PDF file, because ghostscript 5.10,
which can read .pdf files, shows exactly the same (wrong) appearance.

If I use ghostscript's ps2pdf script to create the .pdf file, the
appearance is correct with both ghostscript and acroread.

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From: olaf druemmer <callas@compuserve.com>
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Nick,

I have different results as well between Distiller (Mac PPC 3.01) and my 
LaserWriter 630...

No precise idea what's goiung on. Seems as the lower left corner of the 
char becomes part of the path..

Olaf Druemmer



>
>
>We've hit an inconsistency between printed PostScript and distilled PDF 
>that is causing us a few headaches.
>
>The following short PostScript program gives completely different results 
>on printing it directly to a printer than it does when distilled 
>(Distiller 3.0) and displayed in Acrobat.
>
>The problem comes in a program trying to position accents itself (it's not 
>our program, but we have to deal with the output) and using PostScript 
>operators to try and calculate the size of the accents to position them. 
>The short example program displays a g!
>ray box around the resulting bounding box calculated for each character. 
>If you print it to a printer you will see a gray bow just around the 
>accent. If you distill it and display the PDF, the bounding box drops down 
>to the baseline.
>
>Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is it a known bug? If you try my 
>program do you get the same thing?
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Nick Parker npar@berger-levrault.fr
>Berger-Levrault, France
>
>-- cut here --
>%!PS
>% Show flattenpath for character
>%
>/showbbox
>{
>/y exch def
>/x exch def
>/ch exch def
>x y moveto ch true charpath flattenpath pathbbox
>/ury exch def /urx exch def
>/lly exch def /llx exch def
>llx lly moveto urx lly lineto
>urx ury lineto llx ury lineto
>.7 setgray fill
>0 setgray
>x y moveto ch show
>} def
>/Helvetica findfont 50 scalefont setfont
>(a) 72 72 showbbox
>(\303) 72 144 showbbox
>showpage
>-- cut here --
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Subject: Acrobat Reader 3.01, netscape 4.03, 4.04, and Sun Solaris 2.6
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For several months, on some of our architectures, we have been using
an Adobe-supplied script to run netscape in order to provide seamless
display of PDF files in a netscape window.

During the recent holiday break, we began upgrading our Sun systems
from Sun Solaris 2.5 and 2.5.1 to 2.6 (the latest); it has turned out
that Solaris 2.6 breaks this nice combination of acroread and
netscape.

By running truss, the Solaris system call tracer, I was able to find
the source of the problem, but not a solution:

17124:	open("/usr/local/share/adobe/Acrobat3.01//Browsers//sparcsolaris/nppdf.so", O_RDONLY) = 19
17124:	fstat(19, 0xEFFFA398)				= 0
17124:	mmap(0x00000000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_SHARED, 19, 0) = 0xEF790000
17124:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
17124:	setcontext(0xEFFF9C18)
17124:	mmap(0x00000000, 122880, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 19, 0) = 0xEF080000
17124:	munmap(0xEF08E000, 57344)			= 0
17124:	mmap(0xEF09C000, 7644, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 19, 49152) = 0xEF09C000
17124:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
17124:	setcontext(0xEFFF9B18)
17124:	close(19)					= 0
17124:	mprotect(0xEF080000, 50848, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
17124:	mprotect(0xEF080000, 50848, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0
17124:	brk(0x00D57EE8)					= 0
17124:	brk(0x00D59EE8)					= 0
17124:	munmap(0xEF790000, 8192)			= 0
17124:	munmap(0xEF09C000, 7916)			= 0
17124:	munmap(0xEF080000, 50848)			= 0
17124:	getdents64(18, 0x00D54B20, 1048)		= 0
17124:	close(18)					= 0
17124:	stat("/usr/local/share/adobe/Acrobat3.01//Browsers//sparcsolaris", 0xEFFFAAF8) = 0
17124:	stat("/usr/local/share/adobe/Acrobat3.01//Browsers//hppahpux", 0xEFFFAAF8) = 0
17124:	open64("/usr/local/share/adobe/Acrobat3.01//Browsers//hppahpux", O_RDONLY|O_NDELAY) = 18

Somehow, despite opening nppdf.so successfully, netscape thinks that
it is not usable, and goes on to try other nppdf.so files for other
architectures, which cannot possibly owrk.

Here is a similar truss log from Solaris 2.5:

27095:	open("/usr/local/share/adobe/Acrobat3.01//Browsers/sparcsolaris/nppdf.so", O_RDONLY) = 20
27095:	fstat(20, 0xEFFFBEE4)				= 0
27095:	mmap(0x00000000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_SHARED, 20, 0) = 0xEF7A0000
27095:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
27095:	setcontext(0xEFFFBC20)
27095:	mmap(0x00000000, 122880, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 20, 0) = 0xEF1F0000
27095:	munmap(0xEF1FD000, 61440)			= 0
27095:	mmap(0xEF20C000, 7644, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 20, 49152) = 0xEF20C000
27095:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
27095:	setcontext(0xEFFFBBE0)
27095:	close(20)					= 0
27095:	mprotect(0xEF1F0000, 50848, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
27095:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
27095:	setcontext(0xEFFFBC08)
27095:	mprotect(0xEF1F0000, 50848, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0
27095:	munmap(0xEF7A0000, 4096)			= 0
27095:	brk(0x00DC3EE8)					= 0
27095:	brk(0x00DC5EE8)					= 0
27095:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
27095:	setcontext(0xEFFFBE40)
27095:	brk(0x00DC5EE8)					= 0
27095:	brk(0x00DC7EE8)					= 0
27095:	pipe()						= 20 [21]
27095:	pipe()						= 22 [23]
27095:	fork()						= 27107
27095:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
27107:	fork()		(returning as child ...)	= 27095
27095:	setcontext(0xEFFFB468)
27095:	close(21)					= 0
27095:	close(22)					= 0
27095:	fcntl(20, F_GETFD, 0xEFFFB9D0)			= 0
27095:	fcntl(20, F_SETFD, 0x00000001)			= 0
27107:	sysconfig(_CONFIG_OPEN_FILES)			= 64
27095:	fstat(20, 0xEFFFB908)				= 0
27107:	close(3)					= 0
...

On this systems, the nppdf.so library file seems to be happily
accepted.

By themselves, acroread 3.01, acroexch 3.0, and distill 3.0 run just
fine on Solaris 2.6, so I'm pretty sure that the problem lies in the
Adobe plugin library, nppdf.so.

The problem is observed with both netscape 4.03 and 4.04 (the latest),
so I don't believe that it has anything to do with netscape.

I checked the Adobe Web site yesterday, but it seems that the latest
Reader is still 3.01, so perhaps this bug is new.

Has anyone else out there with Solaris 2.6 seen this problem?  Adobe,
have you?  Is there a simple workaround?  [My desktop Sun system was
one of the first to be upgraded, and I'm the biggest PDF user here, so
this bug hits me worst of all our 10K+ local users.]

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For several months, on some of our architectures, we have been using
an Adobe-supplied script to run netscape in order to provide seamless
display of PDF files in a netscape window.

During the recent holiday break, we began upgrading our Sun systems
from Sun Solaris 2.5 and 2.5.1 to 2.6 (the latest); it has turned out
that Solaris 2.6 breaks this nice combination of acroread and
netscape.

By running truss, the Solaris system call tracer, I was able to find
the source of the problem, but not a solution:

17124:	open("/usr/local/share/adobe/Acrobat3.01//Browsers//sparcsolaris/nppdf.so", O_RDONLY) = 19
17124:	fstat(19, 0xEFFFA398)				= 0
17124:	mmap(0x00000000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_SHARED, 19, 0) = 0xEF790000
17124:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
17124:	setcontext(0xEFFF9C18)
17124:	mmap(0x00000000, 122880, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 19, 0) = 0xEF080000
17124:	munmap(0xEF08E000, 57344)			= 0
17124:	mmap(0xEF09C000, 7644, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 19, 49152) = 0xEF09C000
17124:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
17124:	setcontext(0xEFFF9B18)
17124:	close(19)					= 0
17124:	mprotect(0xEF080000, 50848, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
17124:	mprotect(0xEF080000, 50848, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0
17124:	brk(0x00D57EE8)					= 0
17124:	brk(0x00D59EE8)					= 0
17124:	munmap(0xEF790000, 8192)			= 0
17124:	munmap(0xEF09C000, 7916)			= 0
17124:	munmap(0xEF080000, 50848)			= 0
17124:	getdents64(18, 0x00D54B20, 1048)		= 0
17124:	close(18)					= 0
17124:	stat("/usr/local/share/adobe/Acrobat3.01//Browsers//sparcsolaris", 0xEFFFAAF8) = 0
17124:	stat("/usr/local/share/adobe/Acrobat3.01//Browsers//hppahpux", 0xEFFFAAF8) = 0
17124:	open64("/usr/local/share/adobe/Acrobat3.01//Browsers//hppahpux", O_RDONLY|O_NDELAY) = 18

Somehow, despite opening nppdf.so successfully, netscape thinks that
it is not usable, and goes on to try other nppdf.so files for other
architectures, which cannot possibly owrk.

Here is a similar truss log from Solaris 2.5:

27095:	open("/usr/local/share/adobe/Acrobat3.01//Browsers/sparcsolaris/nppdf.so", O_RDONLY) = 20
27095:	fstat(20, 0xEFFFBEE4)				= 0
27095:	mmap(0x00000000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_SHARED, 20, 0) = 0xEF7A0000
27095:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
27095:	setcontext(0xEFFFBC20)
27095:	mmap(0x00000000, 122880, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 20, 0) = 0xEF1F0000
27095:	munmap(0xEF1FD000, 61440)			= 0
27095:	mmap(0xEF20C000, 7644, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 20, 49152) = 0xEF20C000
27095:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
27095:	setcontext(0xEFFFBBE0)
27095:	close(20)					= 0
27095:	mprotect(0xEF1F0000, 50848, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
27095:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
27095:	setcontext(0xEFFFBC08)
27095:	mprotect(0xEF1F0000, 50848, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0
27095:	munmap(0xEF7A0000, 4096)			= 0
27095:	brk(0x00DC3EE8)					= 0
27095:	brk(0x00DC5EE8)					= 0
27095:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
27095:	setcontext(0xEFFFBE40)
27095:	brk(0x00DC5EE8)					= 0
27095:	brk(0x00DC7EE8)					= 0
27095:	pipe()						= 20 [21]
27095:	pipe()						= 22 [23]
27095:	fork()						= 27107
27095:	    Received signal #14, SIGALRM [caught]
27107:	fork()		(returning as child ...)	= 27095
27095:	setcontext(0xEFFFB468)
27095:	close(21)					= 0
27095:	close(22)					= 0
27095:	fcntl(20, F_GETFD, 0xEFFFB9D0)			= 0
27095:	fcntl(20, F_SETFD, 0x00000001)			= 0
27107:	sysconfig(_CONFIG_OPEN_FILES)			= 64
27095:	fstat(20, 0xEFFFB908)				= 0
27107:	close(3)					= 0
...

On this systems, the nppdf.so library file seems to be happily
accepted.

By themselves, acroread 3.01, acroexch 3.0, and distill 3.0 run just
fine on Solaris 2.6, so I'm pretty sure that the problem lies in the
Adobe plugin library, nppdf.so.

The problem is observed with both netscape 4.03 and 4.04 (the latest),
so I don't believe that it has anything to do with netscape.

I checked the Adobe Web site yesterday, but it seems that the latest
Reader is still 3.01, so perhaps this bug is new.

Has anyone else out there with Solaris 2.6 seen this problem?  Adobe,
have you?  Is there a simple workaround?  [My desktop Sun system was
one of the first to be upgraded, and I'm the biggest PDF user here, so
this bug hits me worst of all our 10K+ local users.]

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We've had this issue come up before, mostly with a program named Miles33.
I'm pretty sure what you are all seeing is the same problem, described
below, with a workaround solution as well. Please try this and let the list
know if this solves it. Please also know that our engineering manager wrote
this, so I'm not necessarily the right person to debate technical issues,
but I can certainly take them to him if necessary.

Sarah

Problem Description
---------------------------------
Some prologues calculate the position for the accents on accented
characters by taking the bounding boxes of the character paths for the base
character and the accent character. The essence of the problem can be
condensed down to the following PS snippet 
(\310) false charpath flattenpath pathbbox  % \310 is dieresis

In PostScript language v. 2012 interpreters (what's in Distiller 2.1 and
older) this yields different results than in 2017 interpreters (what's in
Distiller 3.0). The difference is that 2017 interpreters include the
trailing moveto from the character path as part of the calculation of the
pathbbox, whereas in 2012, the interpreter didn't.

Now for the obligatory quote from the Red Book (PS Language Reference
Manual), Page 461, documentation for the pathbbox operator:
"In Level 2 implementations of the PostScript language, if the current path
ends with a moveto, the bounding box does not necessarily include it,
unless the moveto is the only element of the path."

So they left the door open for either implementation to be "correct".

Here's an example:
/Courier 100 selectfont
0 0 moveto
(\310) false charpath flattenpath pathbbox
pstack

In Distiller 2.1 (2012 interpreter), this produces the following output
14.7998 48.9492 45.2993 59.2491  (left, bottom, right, top)

In Distiller 3.0 (2017 interpreter), this produces
14.7998 0.0 60.0 59.2491  (left, bottom, right, top)

The bottom/right corner of the bbox is different, which is because of the
trailing moveto on the char path.

Furthermore, regardless of the interpreter version incompatibility, this
method for placing accents won't work for text rotated at angles that
aren't multiples of 90 degrees. That's because, again quoting from the Red
Book: "Pathbbox first computes the bounding box of the current path in
device space. It then transforms these coordinates to user space by the
inverse of CTM and computes the bounding box of the resulting figure in
user space. If the user coordinate system is rotated (other than by
multiples of 90 degrees) or skewed, pathbbox may return a bounding box that
is larger than expected." Resulting in floating accents again. I don't know
if your application allows for rotated/skewed text, but if it does, you'll
see floating accents whether printing or distilling with any version of
PostScript.

Workaround Solution
------------------------------
That all said, we have a workaround for you. It fixes the first problem,
and can be easily modified to fix the problem with rotated/skewed text
(just remove the step of transforming into device space and back). Extract
the following PS from this message and save it as a .ps file in the
Distiller's startup folder. It redefines pathbbox to emulate the 2012
interpreter's implementation by leaving off the trailing moveto in the
calculation of the bounding box. Using the workaround with the 3.0
Distiller on the above example, you get:
14.7998 48.9492 45.2993 59.2491  (identical to 2.1 - yay!)

---------------------------- cut here ----------------------------
% Patch for pathbbox to ignore trailing movetos,
% as in 2012 (Distiller 2.1)
% Key: bi  bbox initialized
%      ac  add cd to bbox
%      xl, xg, yl, yg   x/y lesser/greater
%      fh  flush held moveto
%      hm  holding moveto
%      hmX, hmY   held moveto x/y
%      mp  moveto proc
%vmstatus pop pop 0 ne {false 0 startjob} if

userdict /pathbbox {
  15 dict begin
  /ac {
    bi
    {
      dup
      dup yl lt { /yl exch def }{ pop } ifelse
      dup yg gt { /yg exch def }{ pop } ifelse
      dup
      dup xl lt { /xl exch def }{ pop } ifelse
      dup xg gt { /xg exch def }{ pop } ifelse
    }
    { dup /yl exch def /yg exch def dup /xl exch def /xg exch def /bi true
def }
    ifelse
  } def
  /fh {
    hm
    { /hm false def hmX hmY ac }
    if
  } def
  /mp {
    bi
    { /hm true def /hmY exch def /hmX exch def }
    { ac }
    ifelse
  } def
  /hm false def
  /bi false def
  { fh transform mp }
  { fh transform ac }
  { fh transform ac transform ac transform ac }
  {  }
  { pathforall } stopped  % handle protected char strings from Japanese fonts
  { systemdict /pathbbox get exec }
  {
    xl yl itransform
    xl yg itransform
    xg yl itransform
    xg yg itransform
    /bi false def
    ac ac ac ac
    xl yl xg yg
  } ifelse
  end
} bind put

---------------------------- cut here ----------------------------



At 05:27 PM 1/9/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>We've hit an inconsistency between printed PostScript and distilled PDF
that is causing us a few headaches.
>
>The following short PostScript program gives completely different results
on printing it directly to a printer than it does when distilled (Distiller
3.0) and displayed in Acrobat.
>
>The problem comes in a program trying to position accents itself (it's not
our program, but we have to deal with the output) and using PostScript
operators to try and calculate the size of the accents to position them.
The short example program displays a gray box around the resulting bounding
box calculated for each character. If you print it to a printer you will
see a gray bow just around the accent. If you distill it and display the
PDF, the bounding box drops down to the baseline.
>
>Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is it a known bug? If you try my
program do you get the same thing?
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Nick Parker npar@berger-levrault.fr
>Berger-Levrault, France
>
>-- cut here --
>%!PS
>% Show flattenpath for character
>%
>/showbbox
>{
>/y exch def
>/x exch def
>/ch exch def
>x y moveto ch true charpath flattenpath pathbbox
>/ury exch def /urx exch def
>/lly exch def /llx exch def
>llx lly moveto urx lly lineto
>urx ury lineto llx ury lineto
>.7 setgray fill
>0 setgray
>x y moveto ch show
>} def
>/Helvetica findfont 50 scalefont setfont
>(a) 72 72 showbbox
>(\303) 72 144 showbbox
>showpage
>-- cut here --
>
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>
>Perhaps I missread but i thought saving as eps doesn't allow good reading of
>the file, like correct page size, etc?
>
As soon as you let Distiller use the prologue.ps it won't see the 
boudning box info for the EPS anymore, and will take the default page 
size (as set up in the Distiller preferences). 

If you use the Distiller helper application 'pdfBatchMeister' (part of 
pdfToolbox, see our website www.callas.de) it will make sure the bounding 
box gets honored under any circumstances.

BTW - one thing to be aware of: there is no way to create PDFs with a 
page size below 1 inch by 1 inch. Interesting problem if you wanted to 
use PDF for pieces of classified ads...

Olaf Druemmer


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(was: Re: [PDF] automate workflow/spot colors)

I did some experimentation and find out the following (using Distiller 
for PPC 3.01 on a Mac):

- if Distiller downsamples, it downsamples to the indicated resolution 
(it is not a matter of whole numbers by which the original resolution 
gets divided - I believe I have seen that behavior in the 3.0 version, 
but I am not at all certain)
- Distiller only downsamples, if the (effective) resolution of the 
respective image data in the PostScript file is at least _TWICE_ as  much 
as the desired resolution according to the Distiller preferences.

When I was doing this experiment, I had automatic compression ZIP/Medium 
JPEG set, and all my image data was CMYK TIFFs.)

Olaf Druemmer


PS It is a pity these technical details cannot be found in Adobe's 
documentation - some Technote 'Distiller internals' would really be very 
helpful.


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>         Reply to:   Re: [PDF] automate workflow/spot colors
>mjahn wrote:
>>Actually, it should downsample..probably to 337.5-or is it once it is >past 
>337.5, it downsamples to the 225 ppi you set Distiller to?...BTW, >how are 
>you determining what it downsampled to? Using Callas pdf >inspector?
>
>I would open the PDF in Illustrator and use the Document Info:Object Info 
>to check resolution. When I did some testing this way, I seem to remember 
>the 2X multiplier being the magic number, but I don't remember for sure. 
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Hi,

>

The problem I have run into the Acrobat Distiller PPD is that it's set to RGB
color space, If you open the PPD and change it to CMYK there is no problem.

David Asaph

> Here I will suggest that we have run into problems using many imagesetter
> PPDs (not related to spot colors) that have caused us to recomment using
> the Acrobat Distiller PPD and or PDF.
>
> Thanks for your comments, I will try and update my page ASAP!
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I'm new to the list because I've just purchased Acrobat and need some
assistance. I wish to create PDF documents using my Logitech TWAIN
PageScan Color sheet fed scanner. When I start to install Acrobat 3.0,
the list of scanners doesn't show my scanner.  Will my scanner still be
useable to input images/documents for conversion to PDF format? Thanks
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It is my first time in a discussion list and I may be doing something
wrong, as I do not see any feedback or reply coming to my two posted
questions. Are they to stupid or are they impossible to answer?

Thank you all for the attention.

Questions:

Is there any possible way to launch Acrobat Reader 3.x and have a
specific PDF file automatically opened with it (of course with no user
intervention or dialog boxes)(on the Mac)?



Thanks for any insight you may have.
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Question two:

If there is more than one installed copy of Acrobat Reader on
hypothetical Mac, how can I direct or anticipate which one of those
Readers will be launched upon double-clicking on a PDF file? In other
words; in presence of multiple copies of the same application, possibly
with identical names, which application file will be loaded first? Which
is the criteria used by the MacOS? And by Windows?

Thanks for any insight you may have.

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Thanks Oalf,

i am downloading the demo's. My company is wanting to convert to pdf so bad
that they gave me a mac to take home and experiment with. At work all I do
is sit all day experiment. We are also looking int harliquin rips. We run an
NT workstation hooked to an agfa imagesetter. going on a trip this tues. to
see a company that runs Imation workflow system.

Randall
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Subject: Re: [PDF] spot colors


>
>>
>>Perhaps I missread but i thought saving as eps doesn't allow good reading
of
>>the file, like correct page size, etc?
>>
>As soon as you let Distiller use the prologue.ps it won't see the
>boudning box info for the EPS anymore, and will take the default page
>size (as set up in the Distiller preferences).
>
>If you use the Distiller helper application 'pdfBatchMeister' (part of
>pdfToolbox, see our website www.callas.de) it will make sure the bounding
>box gets honored under any circumstances.
>
>BTW - one thing to be aware of: there is no way to create PDFs with a
>page size below 1 inch by 1 inch. Interesting problem if you wanted to
>use PDF for pieces of classified ads...
>
>Olaf Druemmer
>
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If one uses toolbox, do you still need Made to Print?


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>
>>
>>Perhaps I missread but i thought saving as eps doesn't allow good reading
of
>>the file, like correct page size, etc?
>>
>As soon as you let Distiller use the prologue.ps it won't see the
>boudning box info for the EPS anymore, and will take the default page
>size (as set up in the Distiller preferences).
>
>If you use the Distiller helper application 'pdfBatchMeister' (part of
>pdfToolbox, see our website www.callas.de) it will make sure the bounding
>box gets honored under any circumstances.
>
>BTW - one thing to be aware of: there is no way to create PDFs with a
>page size below 1 inch by 1 inch. Interesting problem if you wanted to
>use PDF for pieces of classified ads...
>
>Olaf Druemmer
>
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>>BTW - one thing to be aware of: there is no way to create PDFs with a
>>page size below 1 inch by 1 inch. Interesting problem if you wanted to
>>use PDF for pieces of classified ads...

Create them in PostScript and use Ghostscript's ps2pdf facility.
Ghostscript's minimum page size for PDF output is 1 pixel, which at the
default conversion resolution of 720 dpi is approximately 0.0014".  You do
have to have the page size in a setpagedevice (or equivalent) in the input
file, not just in a DSC comment.

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While we're on this subject, I have a two related questions. 

 + What's GhostScript *upper* limit in terms of page size?  What's the largest
PDF page GhostScript can view?  What's the largest PDF page GhostScript can
create through ps2pdf?

 + As I recall, Adobe Acrobat has a page size limit of 45 x 45 inches, but I
can't recall if this is Distiller limit or a viewer limit or a file-spec limit
(or some combination of these).  Does anyone know?  

Just wondering. . .

:Kendall

> >>BTW - one thing to be aware of: there is no way to create PDFs with a
> >>page size below 1 inch by 1 inch. Interesting problem if you wanted to
> >>use PDF for pieces of classified ads...
> 
> Create them in PostScript and use Ghostscript's ps2pdf facility.
> Ghostscript's minimum page size for PDF output is 1 pixel, which at the
> default conversion resolution of 720 dpi is approximately 0.0014".  You do
> have to have the page size in a setpagedevice (or equivalent) in the input
> file, not just in a DSC comment.


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> While we're on this subject, I have a two related questions. 
> 
> + What's GhostScript *upper* limit in terms of page size?

Approximately 2^19 x 2^19 pixels.

> What's the largest PDF page GhostScript can view?

Any page that doesn't exceed the page size limit or limitations of the
window system, subject to the fact that a complete rasterized image of the
page is created in memory (X server memory on X Windows, Ghostscript's
memory on MS Windows).

> What's the largest PDF page GhostScript can create through ps2pdf?

Any page that falls within the page size limit at the resolution selected
for conversion (user-settable).  At the default resolution of 720 dpi,
approximately 728" x 728".

ps2pdf does not create a rasterized image of the page, and does not
accumulate image or graphics data in memory.  The amount of memory required
is approximately proportional to the total number of resources in the file,
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re: >Moral of the story.....If catalog bombs on Windows NT for no
    >explicable reason.....try more RAM.  It definitely needs more
    >than the average.....

I don't agree that "get more memory" is the answer to all problems.  As long
as there is sufficient physical memory available to meet non-pageable
requirements and the swap file is large enough (use the Task Manager,
Performance tab to see all this at a glance), a small memory configuration
will only produce higher paging rates, not application failures such as you
described.  There must have been something else wrong in the system that
failed to build your index.  You should check the NT system Event Log to see
if NT reported any memory shortages, disk space shortages, etc.

You should also ask Adobe to look into the possibility that there's a bug in
Catalog that fails to recognize or report a memomy allocation failure -- it
sounds like you had/have a fairly repeatable test case.

Yes, 32MB is too small for any serious NT4 work (64 MB is recommended), but
it WILL work.  I've run NT4 in as little as 20MB with IIS, Index Server,
MSIE, Acrobat Exchange, and a couple of other apps all active; sure, there
was an enormous amount of paging activity, but it didn't crash!

Tom Thiersch 


At 08:17 AM 1/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Tom Thiersch wrote:
>
>> The solution for me has been to use the following settings in
>> Acrocat.INI:
>>
>>      DocumentWordSectionsSelection=2
>>      IndexAvailableGroupSize=16
>>      DocumentWordSectionsLarge=1600000
>>
>> (Leave all others at their default values).
>>
>> Do NOT select "Optimize for CD-ROM" !
>>
>> Delete whatever copy of the index you currently have;  don't
>> "purge" it -- I
>> mean really go out there and delete all of the index-related
>> subdirectories
>> by hand!
>>
>
>Thanks to all who responded to my plea.  Unfortunately,
>everything tried didn't work.  And for those interested, I did
>open the suspect files in exchange (there were various files that
>the index bombed on).  Also, everything was done on a stand-alone
>machine not over a network.
>
>Fortunately another machine opened up with more RAM (96 MB
>compared to my 32 MB) and I used it to just try and process
>things faster.  IT WORKED!!  I didn't have to change the 'ini'
>file at all although I didn't select the "optimize for CD-ROM"
>since the consensus was to bypass it.
>
>Moral of the story.....If catalog bombs on Windows NT for no
>explicable reason.....try more RAM.  It definitely needs more
>than the average.....
>
>Thanks for everyone's help.
>
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>
>The problem I have run into the Acrobat Distiller PPD is that it's set to RGB
>color space, If you open the PPD and change it to CMYK there is no problem.
>

Where exactly would it matter?

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>
>Create them in PostScript and use Ghostscript's ps2pdf facility.
>Ghostscript's minimum page size for PDF output is 1 pixel, which at the
>default conversion resolution of 720 dpi is approximately 0.0014".  You do
>have to have the page size in a setpagedevice (or equivalent) in the input
>file, not just in a DSC comment.
>

How does for example Acrobat Exchange like the 1 pt by 1 pt PDF file? 
Could you sent me one (privately) so I could do some experimentation?


And (more important): Is anybody from Adobe listening so they may one day 
remove this useless limitation?


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>
>
>If one uses toolbox, do you still need Made to Print?
>
>

MadeToPrint XT has an option to feed PostScript (PostScript print files 
or EPS files - works correctly for both PostScript flavors) directly into 
Distiller without any extra user interaction. It also lets you configure 
Distiller from with MadeToPrint XT. The configuration thing is more or 
less the same as in pdfBatchMeister, whereas pdfBatchMeister offers you a 
very flexible hot folder mechanism so that you can distill just any kind 
of PostScript print file or EPS file, no matter where it was generated.

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         Reply to:   Re: [PDF] automate workflow/spot colors
David Asaph wrote:
>The problem I have run into the Acrobat Distiller PPD is that it's set to RGB
>color space, If you open the PPD and change it to CMYK there is no problem.

I've heard this hack mentioned before, but I have yet to understand why it's necessary. If your original layout file includes only CMYK images and uses only CMYK colors, what problem is created by that default color space setting in the PPD? Can someone explain in detail the benefits of making this change?

TIA

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Andrea Valle has said:

>Can you send me privately the PDF files that print oddly?
>I'll do test them because I'm sure that a correct file should print 
>correctly.

Thanks for the offer. One of the test files is attached. I distilled it 
at only 72 ppi to keep the file size small -- but it displays, prints to 
my b&w laser, and prints to the Epson 800 color inkjet similarly to the 
high res ones. (The lightest tones print on the b&w laser, but don't on 
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Chuck et al,

REMINDER TIME -- Please do *not* send attached files to the PDF list
address. If someone requests a file from you, please email it **directly &
only** to them rather than to the 1600+ list subscribers. It especially
mucks up the digest version of this list (as I expect I'll hear from
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subscribers.

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>>Can you send me privately the PDF files that print oddly?
>>I'll do test them because I'm sure that a correct file should print
>>correctly.
>
>Thanks for the offer. One of the test files is attached. I distilled it
>at only 72 ppi to keep the file size small -- but it displays, prints to
>my b&w laser, and prints to the Epson 800 color inkjet similarly to the
>high res ones. (The lightest tones print on the b&w laser, but don't on
>the color inkjet.)
>
>chuck miller
>appleton wi usa
>
>
>Attachment converted: NorseMan:*33-stepTestQxp.pdf.SIT (SITD/SIT!) (0001CA88)



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Hi:

I occasionally prepare documents that include Japanese text on a powermac
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Japanese Language Kit is disabled. I disable the JLK most of the time when
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TIA,

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AcroBuddies is a fellowship of over 150 Acrobat users and developers who have all agreed to help each other solve problems and answer questions.  It's free to join the list, and pretty effective too...since everyone involved is of a nature to be helpful to the others on the list.  If you'd like to sign up, or just want to check it out, the address is:

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>It is my first time in a discussion list and I may be doing something
>wrong, as I do not see any feedback or reply coming to my two posted
>questions. Are they to stupid or are they impossible to answer?
>
>Thank you all for the attention.
>
>Questions:
>
>Is there any possible way to launch Acrobat Reader 3.x and have a
>specific PDF file automatically opened with it (of course with no user
>intervention or dialog boxes)(on the Mac)?
Your question was not stupid, simply as I think there's no way - as other 
guys may think as well - it's better to wait if someone can tell a _safe_ 
answer before answer "I think you can't, but I'm not sure...".

As far as I know, if you install multiple copies of Acrobat Reader on a 
Mac you won't be able to tell which one will be run.
This depends on the application start mechanics inside the MacOS Finder: 
if you double click on a PDF doc (PDF /CARO type/creator) the Finder 
searches the first APPL/CARO application it finds from the startup disk 
root directory and run it with an "open" event specifying the 
double-clicked file as argument.
(Specifically, you can't distinguish from Reader and Exchange too, as 
both have APPL/CARO T/C couple!!!).

So there's no way to tell "which" Reader, as all Readers are equal to the 
Finder. The only way to discriminate is that to customize (not too legal) 
the application and document's creator string (CARO) to map differently, 
then rebuild the desktop and you'll be able to determine which Reader 
will be run.
However I think it's not a well done solution...

Andrea
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In relation to the accent bounding box problem that I posted:

Several people replied saying that they had duplicated the problem and that the file did indeed behave differently between a laser printer and the distiller. It was also confirmed that it was indeed the instructions stored in the PDF that were wrong and not just the way Acrobat Reader interpreted them.

Sarah Rosenbaum of Adobe then indicated that this problem had already been seen in files from Miles 33. My original files were indeed produced by the Miles 33 Oasys system!

She gave details of a PostScript redefinition of the pathbbox operator (which had been modified betwen revisions of the Adobe PostScript RIP) which could be put in the startup directory of Distiller to make Distiller behave like older RIPs. This has indeed cured our problem.

Thank-you everyone.

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When creating a link in a PDF document that opens up another PDF file,
is there a way to prevent the first file from closing? If the option is
there, we've missed it since everytime we click on the link to open up
the new file, the first one closes.  Thanks in advance for any tips or
ideas you might have.

Marty Schmidt
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Guys

What the hell do I do with the epilogue/prologue files? I have them in the
same level as the watch folder and in the same level as distiller, but i
still get cmyk only print out through my agfa imagesetter!!! Rip is set to
separate. I do not send with separation on in quark. What the heck am I
doing wrong here?? Help.

Oh...P.S. I am at my house this morning, I downloaded some demo's from my pc
to my mac zip. the problem, I have no stuffit program here to unstuff the
files. Of course the silly problem is you have to have stuffit to unstuff!
any one that can send me something to unstuff through the email so I can
play with the demos would be loved forever!

mueller@fidnet.com
WebHead Design
http://whdesign.com
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Subject: Re: [PDF] automate workflow/spot colors


>
>>The link below says that you have to save each page of Quark XPress as EPS
>>files to maintain spot colors, we distill files that were sent to print
>through
>>Adobe PS printer 8.3.1 and AdopePS 8.5.1 without any problems with spot
>colors.
>
>Yes, this is true...especially with large multipage documents, it is
>silly to consider saving individual pages as eps...
>
>>what you should do is use a Quark PDF from Scitex or use a PPD that
support
>>CMYK color space.
>
>Here I will suggest that we have run into problems using many imagesetter
>PPDs (not related to spot colors) that have caused us to recomment using
>the Acrobat Distiller PPD and or PDF.
>
>Thanks for your comments, I will try and update my page ASAP!
>
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>What the hell do I do with the epilogue/prologue files? I have them in the
>same level as the watch folder and in the same level as distiller, but i
>still get cmyk only print out through my agfa imagesetter!!! Rip is set to
>separate. I do not send with separation on in quark. What the heck am I
>doing wrong here?? Help.

Make sure you turned your 'Use prologue.ps/epilogue.ps' option on under 
Advanced Settings in Distiller (if you run batch folders in Distiller, it 
is a all or none situation: have them turned on for everything or for no 
file at all).

German users: sometimes in some versions you have to rename prologue.ps 
into prolog.ps and epilogue.ps into epilog.ps (does not cause problems if 
you have both 'flavors' in the Distiller folder - Distiller will only 
grab one or the other, so it may be the most bullet proof approach to 
have both...).

>Oh...P.S. I am at my house this morning, I downloaded some demo's from my pc
>to my mac zip. the problem, I have no stuffit program here to unstuff the
>files. Of course the silly problem is you have to have stuffit to unstuff!
>any one that can send me something to unstuff through the email so I can
>play with the demos would be loved forever!

There is a free StuffIt Expander for Windows (won't give you resoruce 
forks though on a Windows machine...). Download from www.aladdin.com.



Olaf Druemmer


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Hello,

I am looking for a PostScript driver that does not embed fonts or at least,
does not change the Name of the original font.
Does anyone have a clue?

Regard,
   Laura Dietz
  (Mannesmann Arcor)


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Uncheck following checkbox:

File->Preferences->General...->Open Cross Document Links insame Window


Marc Veron
Basler Zeitung
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When creating a link in a PDF document that opens up another PDF file,
is there a way to prevent the first file from closing? If the option is
there, we've missed it since everytime we click on the link to open up
the new file, the first one closes.  Thanks in advance for any tips or
ideas you might have.

Marty Schmidt
Systems Analyst
U.S. Government Printing Office
Mail Stop PDE
Washington, DC  20401
Email:  mschmidt@gpo.gov

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A little off topic, but not entirely.
The question is, do you ever have the need to pront or create maps?

Schmidt, Martin L. wrote:

> When creating a link in a PDF document that opens up another PDF file,
> is there a way to prevent the first file from closing? If the option is
> there, we've missed it since everytime we click on the link to open up
> the new file, the first one closes.  Thanks in advance for any tips or
> ideas you might have.
>
> Marty Schmidt
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Ted Florence wrote:
> 
> A little off topic, but not entirely.
> The question is, do you ever have the need to pront or create maps?

I certainly don't understand where you're going with that, or why the list
needed to hear of it, Ted...

> Schmidt, Martin L. wrote:
> 
> > When creating a link in a PDF document that opens up another PDF file,
> > is there a way to prevent the first file from closing? If the option is
> > there, we've missed it since everytime we click on the link to open up
> > the new file, the first one closes.  Thanks in advance for any tips or
> > ideas you might have.

My experience with this 3.x phenomenon is that it is caused by a preference, not
by the link itself.  The preference can be found in File -> Preferences ->
General... -> Open Cross-Document Links in Same Window.  The default is TRUE,
which is bad news for you.

For certain applications where this behavior is not wanted, this is a real can
of worms.  Because, you see, you can

* use the ABCPY (Adobe Blind Copy) feature of installation to have the
preference set automatically the way you want it for new users (see abcpydoc.ini
in the installer for more info), but
* this is only available on Windows, and will only help those users who need to
install Acrobat anyway.

So you have to resort to the user setting the preference, hence

* distribute instructions, or you can make a menu link called "Click here First"
or something to bring up the preferences window, but
* be warned that this particular link is not transportable from Windows to Mac! 
(I reported this bug already to Adobe--it's visible at
http://www.beacon.com/~snavely/acrosrchprefs.html)

When this affected me, I ended up using ABCPY, plus a menu link, and had two
copies of the PDF file, one with the Mac menu link, one with the Windows menu
link.

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Andrea Valle has said:

>Can you send me privately the PDF files that print oddly?
>I'll do test them because I'm sure that a correct file should print 
>correctly.

I was so appreciative of your offer that although I was in the middle of 
a rush project I wanted to send it right away. Then I realized that the 
original batch of test PDFs had been trashed. So I made another. Then I 
had to test it to make sure it performed like the others (it did). 
Finally, I sent it off -- to the whole list.

Your instructions were very clear -- so the embarassment is all mine. 
(And the lesson: don't try to move quite so fast.)

Later that day I opened the file in Illustrator. There are a few 
irregularities, but by and large it's a decent "copy" of the original. It 
certainly contains the lightest tones that don't print to my Epson SC800. 
Look forward to your thoughts.

Luckily it was only a 30K file. If you would prefer one in a higher 
resolution, please say so. I promise to send it ^privately^ to you only...

chuck miller
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-----Original Message-----
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>
>>What the hell do I do with the epilogue/prologue files?

you said

>Make sure you turned your 'Use prologue.ps/epilogue.ps' option on under
>Advanced Settings in Distiller (if you run batch folders in Distiller, it
>is a all or none situation: have them turned on for everything or for no
>file at all).


I got that, am I to use these files in anyway? I have used them and still
get a cmyk out put with in-rip seps on.

Also, mac users...why wouldn't a .sea file not extract on my mac? it asks
for the dos program? Got all these neat demos to try and can't get to them!

Randall
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Macromedia Freehand 7 also can edit PDF files, but the files must be in Acrobat 2.1. I look forward to an update sometime.


At 05:16 PM 1/8/98 -0500, you wrote:

>

>>

>>     Adobe Illustrator 7.0 has the ability to open and save pdf pages. SO 

>>     you might be able to get done what you need by...

>>

>

>To my knowledge Illustrator only saves PDF 1.1 format, so certain things 

>that are important for prepress may get lost.

>

>Olaf Druemmer

>

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Martin,

you can enable/disable this in the general preferences in the file menu.

Best wishes from Germany.

Tom


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When creating a link in a PDF document that opens up another PDF file,
is there a way to prevent the first file from closing? If the option is
there, we've missed it since everytime we click on the link to open up
the new file, the first one closes.  Thanks in advance for any tips or
ideas you might have.

Marty Schmidt
Systems Analyst
U.S. Government Printing Office
Mail Stop PDE
Washington, DC  20401
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Laura,

is that question in relation to make PDF documents or in gerneral?

Best wishes from Germany.
Tom

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Hello,

I am looking for a PostScript driver that does not embed fonts or at least,
does not change the Name of the original font.
Does anyone have a clue?

Regard,
   Laura Dietz
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Dear collegues,

has somebody of you ever seen a possibility to place PDF within WinWord or
Windows Office Applications?

I do not want to link files to WinWord documents. I what to place, see and
print them (I think it can only work for one page PDF documents) like I
can place TIFF and EPS and so on.

I know that Adobe sells a "placed PDF" source for developers, to place
PDF. In fact internally an EPS is passed to the invoking application. But
I did not see any import filter for MS Office applications.

Best wishes from Germany 

Tom.


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Simon Tanner wrote:      I have any application where I need to put a
"Previous Page" arrow and "Next Page"...

Karl Schmidtmann responded: "Ambia's Compose product has a Copy Link tool
which will do exactly what you want. Simply make the initial "next page" or
"previous page" link, then clone it throughout a document or page range...

Karl's right, Compose does a great job doing this.  Just a word of caution
- make sure that you really want the button on all the pages - once it's
there, it's there.  If you decide you don't like the button, or don't want
it on a particular page you have to manually remove it from each individual
page.

Sue




kschmidtmann@ambia.com on 01/08/98 10:00:59 AM

Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com

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Simon:
Ambia's Compose product has a Copy Link tool which will do exactly what you
want. Simply make the initial "next page" or "previous page" link, then
clone it throughout a document or page range. Compose is a Windows plug-in
to Acrobat Exchange. More information, and an evaluation version, can be
found on our Web site (www.ambia.com). Or give me a call.

Karl Schmidtmann
Ambia
707-829-7500
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I have any application where I need to put a "Previous Page" arrow and
"Next Page" arrow on each PDF file top and bottom to enable the previous
and next PDF files to be loaded straight from the current PDF file.

The PDF files will have sequential numbers and be logically grouped in the
same directory structures.

Is there any way to automate the placing of the links in each PDF file?

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 Simon
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>I know that Adobe sells a "placed PDF" source for developers, to place
>PDF. In fact internally an EPS is passed to the invoking application. But
>I did not see any import filter for MS Office applications.

Maybe Bill finds some funding for it so they could try to do it at 
Redmond... ;->

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>
>I got that, am I to use these files in anyway? I have used them and still
>get a cmyk out put with in-rip seps on.

The prologue.ps file contains PostScript code that teaches Distiller to 
honor spot colors, so they don't get converted to CMYK or whatever. They 
have to be in the same directory/folder as the Distiler application.

In the Distiller progress window you should be able to read something 
like "prologue.ps executed", and once the PostScript file has been 
converted, you should see something like "epiloge.ps executed". If you do 
not see these lines in the Distiller progress window (or in the .log file 
for the PostScript file or the messages.log file in the Distiller folder, 
Distiller did not use it (double check your settings).

If Distiller uses prologue.ps it will may maintain spot color. We use it 
very day. In case you wanted to check around yourself, you may want to 
download a demo version of pdfInspektor (part of pdfToolbox) from our 
website www.callas.de.

>Also, mac users...why wouldn't a .sea file not extract on my mac? it asks
>for the dos program? Got all these neat demos to try and can't get to them!
>

A .sea file that does not extract itself anymore probably has lost its 
resource fork (that's where the self extraction trick comes from...) due 
to having been copied to or from a non-Mac (Wintel or whatever) machine. 
You may be lucky, if you simply tried to use free StuffIt Expander - it 
is very helpful with most compressed files.

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Acrobat Distiller will do the following when downsampling:
If the setting for downsample resolution is more than 1.5 times the image
resolution, the downsample will occur and will be exact to the setting. For
example, the setting in Distiller's Job Options dialog is 150 dpi. Any
image over 225 dpi (1.5 times the setting) will be downsampled to exactly
150 dpi. Of course, Distiller only applies the downsampling to the images
as per color, grayscale, or monochrome criteria, following what is set in
the Job Options dialog box.

Sarah

At 09:58 AM 1/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>(was: Re: [PDF] automate workflow/spot colors)
>
>I did some experimentation and find out the following (using Distiller 
>for PPC 3.01 on a Mac):
>
>- if Distiller downsamples, it downsamples to the indicated resolution 
>(it is not a matter of whole numbers by which the original resolution 
>gets divided - I believe I have seen that behavior in the 3.0 version, 
>but I am not at all certain)
>- Distiller only downsamples, if the (effective) resolution of the 
>respective image data in the PostScript file is at least _TWICE_ as  much 
>as the desired resolution according to the Distiller preferences.
>
>When I was doing this experiment, I had automatic compression ZIP/Medium 
>JPEG set, and all my image data was CMYK TIFFs.)
>
>Olaf Druemmer
>
>
>PS It is a pity these technical details cannot be found in Adobe's 
>documentation - some Technote 'Distiller internals' would really be very 
>helpful.
>
>
>>
>>
>>         Reply to:   Re: [PDF] automate workflow/spot colors
>>mjahn wrote:
>>>Actually, it should downsample..probably to 337.5-or is it once it is
>past 
>>337.5, it downsamples to the 225 ppi you set Distiller to?...BTW, >how are 
>>you determining what it downsampled to? Using Callas pdf >inspector?
>>
>>I would open the PDF in Illustrator and use the Document Info:Object Info 
>>to check resolution. When I did some testing this way, I seem to remember 
>>the 2X multiplier being the magic number, but I don't remember for sure. 
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One point of correction here:
Distiller does not read the Bounding Box information in an EPS file - it's
in a comment. The use of Prologue.ps or Epilogue.ps makes no difference.
The page size is read in the setpagedevice PostScript operator.

Distiller will create a PDF file of any dimensions. However, Acrobat Reader
and Exchange can only display pages from 1x1 inch to 45x45 inch. This will
be changed in the next release of Acrobat.

Sarah 

At 09:58 AM 1/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>
>>Perhaps I missread but i thought saving as eps doesn't allow good reading of
>>the file, like correct page size, etc?
>>
>As soon as you let Distiller use the prologue.ps it won't see the 
>boudning box info for the EPS anymore, and will take the default page 
>size (as set up in the Distiller preferences). 
>
>If you use the Distiller helper application 'pdfBatchMeister' (part of 
>pdfToolbox, see our website www.callas.de) it will make sure the bounding 
>box gets honored under any circumstances.
>
>BTW - one thing to be aware of: there is no way to create PDFs with a 
>page size below 1 inch by 1 inch. Interesting problem if you wanted to 
>use PDF for pieces of classified ads...
>
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>Acrobat Distiller will do the following when downsampling:
>If the setting for downsample resolution is more than 1.5 times the image
>resolution, the downsample will occur and will be exact to the setting. For
>example, the setting in Distiller's Job Options dialog is 150 dpi. Any
>image over 225 dpi (1.5 times the setting) will be downsampled to exactly
>150 dpi. Of course, Distiller only applies the downsampling to the images
>as per color, grayscale, or monochrome criteria, following what is set in
>the Job Options dialog box.
 
Sarah,

again, I think you are wrong. My detailed tests from last weekend (using 
Distiller Mac-PPC 3.01) indicate something like 2.0 times the desired 
image resolution and above... ! Seems there is really a need for better 
technical documentation about these features ;->

That has been my main burden throughout 1997 - find out all the 
characteristics - good and not so good ones - about Distiller by 
experimentation.

Olaf Druemmer



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>
>Distiller will create a PDF file of any dimensions. However, Acrobat Reader
>and Exchange can only display pages from 1x1 inch to 45x45 inch. This will
>be changed in the next release of Acrobat.

Any more specific news on this? Especially for display ad pagination 
issues it might be a crucial thing to have page sizes down to a few 
points...

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>One point of correction here:
>Distiller does not read the Bounding Box information in an EPS file - it's
>in a comment. The use of Prologue.ps or Epilogue.ps makes no difference.
>The page size is read in the setpagedevice PostScript operator.

Sorry, Sarah, but I believe you are wrong here. I thought so as well, but 
Johan Leide proved me wrong on our booth at last ifra show (I'll never 
forget it):

Distiller does read the EPS bounding box information - if nothing comes 
before the EPS header...

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> 
> Dear collegues,
> 
> has somebody of you ever seen a possibility to place PDF within WinWord or
> Windows Office Applications?
> 
> I do not want to link files to WinWord documents. I what to place, see and
> print them (I think it can only work for one page PDF documents) like I
> can place TIFF and EPS and so on.
> 
> I know that Adobe sells a "placed PDF" source for developers, to place
> PDF. In fact internally an EPS is passed to the invoking application. But
> I did not see any import filter for MS Office applications.

I have developped an add-on to pstoedit that allows pstoedit to be used
directly as import filter for MS Office 97 applications. This works
for both .ps and .pdf files since pstoedit uses GhostScript to perform the
processing of the input file. However, the result is not a bitmap image
but an editable figure. Thus there are some "natural" limitations with
this. Just think about how one should represent embedded font information.
Nevertheless it works quite well for line arts and text that uses standard
fonts.

This filter is not yet released but will be available soon, probably,
on a shareware basis.

> 
> Best wishes from Germany 
> 
	
	Wolfgang

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		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Saccuzzo, Robin 
		Sent:	Monday, January 12, 1998 12:51 PM
		To:	'tm_consult@t-online.de'
		Subject:	RE: [PDF] Place PDF in WinWord

		Tom, 

		ImageStream97 allows you to do this.  Go to
http://www.inso.com 

		Best, 

		Robin 

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		Dear collegues, 

		has somebody of you ever seen a possibility to place PDF
within WinWord or 
		Windows Office Applications? 

		I do not want to link files to WinWord documents. I what
to place, see and 
		print them (I think it can only work for one page PDF
documents) like I 
		can place TIFF and EPS and so on. 

		I know that Adobe sells a "placed PDF" source for
developers, to place 
		PDF. In fact internally an EPS is passed to the invoking
application. But 
		I did not see any import filter for MS Office
applications. 

		Best wishes from Germany 

		Tom. 
		 

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Sarah Rosenbaum wrote:
> 
> Acrobat Distiller will do the following when downsampling:
> If the setting for downsample resolution is more than 1.5 times the image
> resolution, the downsample will occur and will be exact to the setting. For
> example, the setting in Distiller's Job Options dialog is 150 dpi. Any
> image over 225 dpi (1.5 times the setting) will be downsampled to exactly
> 150 dpi. Of course, Distiller only applies the downsampling to the images
> as per color, grayscale, or monochrome criteria, following what is set in
> the Job Options dialog box.

Thanks for the clarification of that, Sarah.

There may be confusion as to the difference between the resampling algorithms
themselves.  Below is an excerpt from the Acrobat documentation (PDF files
distributed with Acrobat) that describing this difference.

"Downsampling and subsampling, sometimes referred to as resampling, are
techniques whereby information represented by several pixels in a bitmap is
combined to make a single larger pixel, thus producing a smaller bitmap.
Downsampling and subsampling reduce the resolution of images with some loss of
detail and significantly reduce
the file size.

"Downsampling reduces the resolution by averaging the pixel color of a sample
area and replacing that area with a pixel of the averaged color. Subsampling,
available with Distiller only, reduces the resolution by choosing a pixel in the
center of the sample area and replacing that area with the pixel chosen.
Subsampling takes significantly less processing time than does downsampling."

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-----Original Message-----
From: Coulter, Ron A <CoulteRA@BP.COM>
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Date: Monday, January 12, 1998 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: [PDF] Program to create TOC pdf


>
>If you have Excel 97, the URL below will take you to a VBA macro that will
>do a few of the things Steve and Sebastian are asking about.
>http://econwpa.wustl.edu/~pdfl/0205.html
>

I would be very happy to be able to download your macro; but the link is not
working.

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I'm working on a document in Word '97 and using the 3.02 PDFwriter.  
I'm making the documents 3.0 campatible, btw.  When I use only the 
subset boxes checked, my document displays just fine.  When I embed 
the font used in the document and have subset checked  some of the 
characters ( 's and em-dashes, in my case) disappear.  

When I embed the font and turn off subset True Type, the missing 
characters re-appear, but the file size goes from about 60k to 191k.

When I check the fonts list, I see the same font name in both 
resulting PDFs (i.e. Book Antiqua).  Clearly the last way is adding 
more information.  Am I safe to go back to my original way?  Will the 
fonts I see on my fonts list always travel with the PDF or does it 
show the fonts because they are on my system?

I did play with my distiller but  it cannot see the fonts.  I go into 
the Distiller's (3.01) font menu and try to add the Windows/font 
directory -- where I know the font is stored.  Any ideas why the 
fonts do not appear on the font list?  The resulting PDF file is 
terrible to look at and the font list in Exchange calls my fonts T1, 
T2, etc. 

Thanks,

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Could it be  http://econwpa.wustl.edu/~pdfl/1997.Sep.Jan/0205.html
maybe?


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	>
	>If you have Excel 97, the URL below will take you to a VBA
macro that will
	>do a few of the things Steve and Sebastian are asking about.
	>http://econwpa.wustl.edu/~pdfl/0205.html
	>

	I would be very happy to be able to download your macro; but the
link is not
	working.


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Hello,

I'm a newbie to this list and I've only been using Acrobat for a few
months, but I've got a problem which technical support can't figure out.
Perhaps someone has experienced this same problem or can think of
something I haven't tried already.

I've been getting vertical lines to the right side of bitmap images that
have been inserted into a Visio document and then distilled to create a
PDF document.  These lines aren't viewed in the Reader only when printed
from the Reader. Also the resolution of the images changes from 300 to
72 dpi.  The original Visio doc. looks great with no vertical lines and
images at 300 dpi when printed. I've put the exact graphics into other
applications to distill and I don't experience this problem. The real
puzzle is that only about half of the images in the docoument have the
vertical line and they were all treated the same from the beginning.
I've already played with the print drivers based on assistance for
technical support.  Has anyone else seen these mysterious vertical
lines?  

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Cheryl Brantley

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Hello,

I have a bunch of PDF documents. I need to create fields in these
documents. Is this possible at all. Or which is the way to go about doing it.

Thanks.

Kurt
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Kurt Venkatraman wrote:

> I have a bunch of PDF documents. I need to create fields in these
> documents. Is this possible at all. Or which is the way to go about doing it.
> 

Kurt:

Fields may be added to documents using the Field tool in Acrobat
Exchange 3.01.

If you need the same fields on several pages, beware the "duplicate
fields" function -- it has a DEEPLY unpleasant effect on file size, why
I could not say (nor can Adobe, as far as I know).

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Cheryl,
though I have no exposure to visio docs I have had those lines appear
randomly too - in Acrobat Capture and in Excel every now and then. The
symptoms were exactly the same.

Here's a hint: Try not to downsample in the first step (change your
Distiller settings, take the compression off in the job options). That
hopefully results in a PDF file without a line, which you then can
re-distill and compress (just print to PDF again with the Distiller
compression settings to whatever your output specs are.)

Hope this works.
In Capture I had to take off the image compression (in the process of saving
the acd to pdf) and never saw those weird lines again.

Christine Guenther

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At 02:25 PM 1/12/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>I'm a newbie to this list and I've only been using Acrobat for a few
>months, but I've got a problem which technical support can't figure out.
>Perhaps someone has experienced this same problem or can think of
>something I haven't tried already.
>
>I've been getting vertical lines to the right side of bitmap images that
>have been inserted into a Visio document and then distilled to create a
>PDF document.  These lines aren't viewed in the Reader only when printed
>from the Reader. Also the resolution of the images changes from 300 to
>72 dpi.  The original Visio doc. looks great with no vertical lines and
>images at 300 dpi when printed. I've put the exact graphics into other
>applications to distill and I don't experience this problem. The real
>puzzle is that only about half of the images in the docoument have the
>vertical line and they were all treated the same from the beginning.
>I've already played with the print drivers based on assistance for
>technical support.  Has anyone else seen these mysterious vertical
>lines?  
>
>Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
>
>Cheryl Brantley
>
>========================================================================
>
>Cheryl Brantley
>County Sanitation Districts of Los Angeles 
>Marine Biology Lab
>24501 S. Figueroa
>Carson,  CA   90745
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Kurt,

sure, you can create fileds in existing PDF documents. You will need
Exchange 3, and there you go. It will be a bit of manual work, and there
are certain limitations, which may need soime workarounds or post-editing.

Depending on what you want to do, there are also some third party plug-ins
available.


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>Hello,
>
>I have a bunch of PDF documents. I need to create fields in these
>documents. Is this possible at all. Or which is the way to go about doing it.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Kurt
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Do any of you know of a plug-in that creates a pop-up window in a PDF
when you roll over or click a link or field? The project I'm currently
working on includes a large number of fine-detailed illustrations with
many annotations on each illustration. To preserve the cleanliness of the
illustration and not surround it with lots of text, we've elected to
simple put small buttons where all the annotations should be. The idea is
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time). I know I could use the post-it feature, but since this is a retail
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Hi Ada,

yes, you're right. I mean "embed". What should I do with 'intelligent objects' within WinWord. Let me know about your developments, please. What about a betatest on a German WinWord, wich such strange international characters?

Best wishes from Germany.

Tom


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Hi Tom,

I'm currently working on some UI definition and run across your eMail
about "Place" PDF into Word. I hope you can give me your definition of 
"Place". That is, what exactly you mean by "place" a PDF or EPS into
a document? Does that mean "embedded", "a link with image showing" or
something else?

Thank You Very Much. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Ada Yue
QA Manager, Acrobat
Adobe Systems Incorporated
ayue@adobe.com

At 05:31 PM 1/12/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Dear collegues,
>
>has somebody of you ever seen a possibility to place PDF within WinWord or
>Windows Office Applications?
>
>I do not want to link files to WinWord documents. I what to place, see and
>print them (I think it can only work for one page PDF documents) like I
>can place TIFF and EPS and so on.
>
>I know that Adobe sells a "placed PDF" source for developers, to place
>PDF. In fact internally an EPS is passed to the invoking application. But
>I did not see any import filter for MS Office applications.
>
>Best wishes from Germany 
>
>Tom.
>
>
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Thank you, Robin, for your advice. Do you use it?

Tom

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Tom, 

ImageStream97 allows you to do this.  Go to http://www.inso.com 

Best, 

Robin 

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Dear collegues, 

has somebody of you ever seen a possibility to place PDF within WinWord
or 
Windows Office Applications? 

I do not want to link files to WinWord documents. I what to place, see
and 
print them (I think it can only work for one page PDF documents) like I 
can place TIFF and EPS and so on. 

I know that Adobe sells a "placed PDF" source for developers, to place 
PDF. In fact internally an EPS is passed to the invoking application.
But 
I did not see any import filter for MS Office applications. 

Best wishes from Germany 

Tom. 
 

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We have a task to distill about 1000 files to pdf. The source material
is a combination of Word, WordPerfect, and Postscript files.

We have discovered that a significant number of these files contain bitmap
graphics, either grayscale or color.  Nearly all of them are plots and
illustrations and not photographs.  The types of images concerned should
really
be vector images however their creators either don't understand the
differences
and/or just used the tools they had on hand.  Regardless, we must distill
the files.  BTW, some of the files contain monochrome bitmaps, too.

Distiller's default is to downsample color and grayscale bitmap images.  If we
allow this, then the resulting pdf will yield very poor printouts of the
images
as compared to printouts from the original file (from Word for example).
So we
configured Distiller (through Job Options|Compression) to not downsample
the bitmaps.

Here's the problem.  On my NT 4.0 system using Distiller 3.01, no downsampling
works file.  The produced PDF replicates the original file when printed.
However,
if we distill the same file on a Win95 system, then the produced PDF yields
printouts
whose images which are inferior to those of the original document.  The
quality of the
printout is independent of the system which does the printing.  That is, if
I generate
the pdf on my NT4 system, it prints fine.  If I move that pdf to a Win95
system, it prints fine.  If, on the other hand, I generate the pdf on a
Win95 system, it prints
the inferior bitmaps on that system as well as on my NT4 system.  So, even
with the
exact same settings for Distiller 3.01 on both Win95 and WinNT systems, the
resulting
pdf's are different.

On both systems, distiller is using the Acrobat Distiller 3.01 printer
driver.  Also,
I have tried 3 different Win95 system and have obtained exactly the same
results.

Can someone suggest a fix for this problem.  Unfortunately, we need to use
the Win95
system to produce the pdfs.

Thank you.

Anthony Q. Martin
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Roy A Faircloth wrote:
> 
> Do any of you know of a plug-in that creates a pop-up window in a PDF
> when you roll over or click a link or field? [...]

You can get a behavior like this by using the "Mouse Enter" and "Mouse Exit"
hooks and the "Show/Hide Field" action, as follows:

* Define a form field of type "text" containing the pop-up message.  Put this
form field  anywhere on the page you want.  I usually give it a beveled
appearance, with a distintive background, font, and foreground color, so that it
doesn't really look like a part of the document, but rather a widget of some
sort.  Name that field "msg1", for example.
* Next, define a form field that will be the pop-up region for msg1, i.e., the
area the mouse will have to be in for the pop-up "msg1" to be visible.  Name
this field "rmsg1", for example.  If you like, set this field to have a colored
border so users can see the what the active region is.  It is a good idea to not
overlap "msg1" and "rmsg1".
* In the Properties windows for "rmsg1", click the Actions tab.  Add an action
for "Mouse Enter", and set it to show the "msg1" field.  Add an action for
"Mouse Exit", and set it to hide the "msg1" field.
* If you like, change the field "msg1" to be hidden by default.

This should accomplish just about everything you want, and pretty darn cleanly,
except that the pop-up text is not linkable.  If you want one region to activate
multiple messages, just make additional fields and additional actions on the
pop-up region.  Or you can set your actions in such a way that entering the
region will cause one to appear and one to disappear.  Or, you might like to
create several regions within each figure that each pop up a specific note about
that part of the given illustration.  Go nuts!

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We evaluated it for our Government Customer to see if it would import
.ps, .pdf and .igs files.  It worked as advertised.  The only draw back
is that it will only let you import the first page of a non secure pdf
file.  Hope this helps.

BTW this company is the one that Microsoft licenses some of its
converters from for Word and Excel.


Best,

Robin Saccuzzo
CAS Inc. Weapon Systems Analysis

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	Thank you, Robin, for your advice. Do you use it?

	Tom

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	Von:  Saccuzzo, Robin[SMTP:Robin.Saccuzzo@cas-inc.com]
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	Tom, 

	ImageStream97 allows you to do this.  Go to http://www.inso.com 

	Best, 

	Robin 

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: tm_consult@t-online.de [SMTP:tm_consult@t-online.de] 
	Sent: Monday, January 12, 1998 10:32 AM 
	To: 'PDF List' 
	Subject: [PDF] Place PDF in WinWord 
	 

	Dear collegues, 

	has somebody of you ever seen a possibility to place PDF within
WinWord
	or 
	Windows Office Applications? 

	I do not want to link files to WinWord documents. I what to
place, see
	and 
	print them (I think it can only work for one page PDF documents)
like I 
	can place TIFF and EPS and so on. 

	I know that Adobe sells a "placed PDF" source for developers, to
place 
	PDF. In fact internally an EPS is passed to the invoking
application.
	But 
	I did not see any import filter for MS Office applications. 

	Best wishes from Germany 

	Tom. 
	 

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I think, I read someones message, telling that Capture 2 does not count down the page counter, when conversion to plain PDF (bitmap image only) was choosen. 

My Capture 2.0 does count down. 

Who can confirm the count down?

Thank you.

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That's the one. (By the way, Robin, that macro has been very useful. I
added some lines so that it returns page count and file size. I wouldn't
have been able to do it without your code to start from.)

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> 
> Could it be  http://econwpa.wustl.edu/~pdfl/1997.Sep.Jan/0205.html
> maybe?
> 
> 
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> 
> 	>
> 	>If you have Excel 97, the URL below will take you to a VBA
> macro that will
> 	>do a few of the things Steve and Sebastian are asking about.
> 	>http://econwpa.wustl.edu/~pdfl/0205.html
> 	>
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> 	I would be very happy to be able to download your macro; but the
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At 11:18 AM 1/13/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Anthony,
>
>>Here's the problem.  On my NT 4.0 system using Distiller 3.01, no 
>>downsampling
>>works file.  The produced PDF replicates the original file when printed.
>>However,
>>if we distill the same file on a Win95 system, then the produced PDF yields
>>printouts
>>whose images which are inferior to those of the original document.  The
>>quality of the
>>printout is independent of the system which does the printing.  
>
>unless I have a missed something during the last 12 months I'd bet there 
>is no such bug in Distiller.

I sure would like for there not to be a bug.  

>
>One thing to be aware of though is that settings for hot folders and for 
>manual operation are independently set and kept (which happens to not 
>work well on the Mac 3.01 version as it tends to crash as soon as you 
>start editing hot folder settings...). You may want to double check this. 

I have double and triple check this on a range of systems.  The settings
seem to take and none of the systems involved crash with editing the 
settings. How can we explain the fact that with exactly the same settings
(as determined by Job Control|Compression) that one gets different
pdf on different systems?  With the exception of fonts, I would expect
exactly the same pdf files.  I hope I am missing something, but if I am
it does not appear obvious.


>
>Two more things to try out:
>- get yourself a (tryout version of) a PDF preflighting tool (I am biased 
>to recommend our pdfInspektor plugin, part of pdfToolbox, to be found on 
>www.callas.de) or CheckUp from EnFocus (www.enfocus.be) - wil give you 
>some details about a PDF file like image resoltuion etc.
>- get yourself (a tryout version of) pdfBatchMeister (a Distiller helper 
>application and as well a part of pdfToolbox) that has its own way to 
>control Distiller settings like downsampling.
>

Thanks for this tip.  I am testing Checkup at the very moment.

If anyone can tell me what the problem is, I would be most greatful.
Right now, our only option is to upgrade the Win95 machine to WinNT4
in order to solve this problem.  This will put us way behind as we
have a severe time constraint.

TIA.

Anthony
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Has anyone out there noticed corrupt color images in a PDF that
originated in PageMaker files. We have had problems on 2 projects of
this nature, where part of the image will look fine, but the lower have
will be a jagged blur (almost the effect when you win at Solitare under
Windows, and the cards start to fall off the screen - nice example huh?)

Unfortunately, the corruption was not evident enough where we could
catch it during the proofing stages.

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Anthony,

>Here's the problem.  On my NT 4.0 system using Distiller 3.01, no 
>downsampling
>works file.  The produced PDF replicates the original file when printed.
>However,
>if we distill the same file on a Win95 system, then the produced PDF yields
>printouts
>whose images which are inferior to those of the original document.  The
>quality of the
>printout is independent of the system which does the printing.  

unless I have a missed something during the last 12 months I'd bet there 
is no such bug in Distiller.

One thing to be aware of though is that settings for hot folders and for 
manual operation are independently set and kept (which happens to not 
work well on the Mac 3.01 version as it tends to crash as soon as you 
start editing hot folder settings...). You may want to double check this. 

Two more things to try out:
- get yourself a (tryout version of) a PDF preflighting tool (I am biased 
to recommend our pdfInspektor plugin, part of pdfToolbox, to be found on 
www.callas.de) or CheckUp from EnFocus (www.enfocus.be) - wil give you 
some details about a PDF file like image resoltuion etc.
- get yourself (a tryout version of) pdfBatchMeister (a Distiller helper 
application and as well a part of pdfToolbox) that has its own way to 
control Distiller settings like downsampling.

(All tools mentioned work on WIn95 and Win NT as well as on the Mac).

Olaf Druemmer



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>The prologue.ps file contains PostScript code that teaches Distiller to 
>honor spot colors, so they don't get converted to CMYK or whatever.

Is that all it does? I also wonder what these files do and who can "get 
away with" not using them. I haven't been. I mostly create PDFs for the 
internet but also sometimes for high-end printing. Haven't heard any 
complaints.

??

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Hi All;

Would like to state the existence of a demo for serving up pdf forms (FDF).

The demo is a calculus quiz, but don't worried, even though it will be 
graded, no information is stored.  

I used Adobe's FDF Toolkit (C language). The quiz was written in TeX ( by 
Y&Y, Inc. ) and converted pdf using the distiller.  All forms were created 
using pdfmarks.  Exchange was used only for optimization.

Please test it out (and test yourself) and send in your comments.  

The URL is http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/demo/quiz1_q.pdf

I hope nothing breaks.  Enjoy.

dps



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e-Calculus: Calculus I tutorial on the Web.
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And, ...

An Algebra Review on 10 Lessons
TeX to PDF
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If we understand you correctly this is what you are missing
Disable "open cross-documents in the same Window" in
File/Preferences/General of Acrobat reader.

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Dear Zip Professor and PDFers of the World,

Way to go on the calculus quiz. Hats off to you!

>Would like to state the existence of a demo for serving up pdf forms (FDF).
>
>The demo is a calculus quiz, but don't worried, even though it will be 
>graded, no information is stored.  
>
>I used Adobe's FDF Toolkit (C language). The quiz was written in TeX ( by 
>Y&Y, Inc. ) and converted pdf using the distiller.  All forms were created 
>using pdfmarks.  Exchange was used only for optimization.
>
>Please test it out (and test yourself) and send in your comments.  
>
>The URL is http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/demo/quiz1_q.pdf

BTW, I got one error, on entering page 2 of the 14 page PDF that showed 
the grade and results. Then I got a font error that some fonts might not 
show up well on my system, the names were there, 2-of them on the dialog 
box, but they weren't anything I'd seen before, as far as font names. ?? 
No big deal on my end with readability noticed.

Tip #1: I do like to see thumbnails and bookmarks. You might want to 
insert those with Exchange too.

Tip #2: Also, upon opening the page, the view wasn't to fit the full-size 
of my screen. Can you adjust the magnifiction on opening. When using the 
magnafy too, I zoom in too close. There seemed to me to be too much "grey 
space" around the edge of the test page and the sub-window in my browser.

Can you give us a few other pointers as to how laborious it was to put up 
the quiz -- and do you now have a system that can be cloned for other 
content?

Do you have pointers to the other mentions above? Who and what are TeX 
(Y&Y). Insights to the FDF Toolkit are welcomed too. 

Any other examples out there -- please post them here or to me.

This is an awesome example. 


----

More in-depth Q:
quiz1_q.pdf    - 3 page pdf  - all Questions and submit button at end of 
last screen
quiz1_a.pdf    - 14 page pdf -- opening screen letter grade is "x" 

Wouldn't there be a way to have the answers come in and "re-use" the 
question PDF document? Perhaps putting a few extra pages at the end of 
the Questions -- as a place holder for the letter grade score and such? 
Then the time to download the answers would not need to be so long -- and 
the 3 page test wouldn't have to be downloaded again, as it is within the 
2nd document. 

Perhaps this is a stupid request and the workflow won't work as stated 
(even if you understood it) -- and this approach is straight-forward and 
less likly to break or easier to build.







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Yes Roy, the technique that Cory outline will work great.  Sometime however,
getting the text just right  is difficult.  So, I use the field technique
Cory mentioned and I use Adobe Illustrator to make my text boxes one at a
time.  I then save them as PDF files.  Upon rollover, I call up the little
PDFs that was made with Illustrator.  Try It.  If you need to see examples,
e-mail me at scla@globalreach.net.  I will send you a one page example.

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What are the available web search engines and indexing tools which
will appropriately index pdf files?

Adobe seems to be using excite, but excite's ews claims not to
index pdf files and not to work across domains, but only to
directly accessible directory trees.

I need something that will both index pdf files and also allow
the indexing of the contents of multiple web servers.

Thanks,
  Jennifer
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I have an Acrobat Exchange plugin which works fine with Exchange
3.01(Win NT 4.0). But the same plugin does not work when a pdf is being
viewed form some other applications window.  
When I tried to debug the plugin, it fails when I call
AVAppGetActiveDoc() ?
	AVDoc CurrentAVDoc;
	CurrentAVDoc = AVAppGetActiveDoc();

Does anyone know why ?

Any documentation on "displaying PDF files in external windows" is
welcome.

Thanks
Naresh.
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Used Scotties advice a while ago to create just this kind of popups. I have
put an example of it on:

	http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/
       Then click on Australia's Customers (left frame)

At 02:54 PM 01/13/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Yes Roy, the technique that Cory outline will work great.  Sometime however,
>getting the text just right  is difficult.  So, I use the field technique
>Cory mentioned and I use Adobe Illustrator to make my text boxes one at a
>time.  I then save them as PDF files.  Upon rollover, I call up the little
>PDFs that was made with Illustrator.  Try It.  If you need to see examples,
>e-mail me at scla@globalreach.net.  I will send you a one page example.
>
>Scottie
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To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [PDF] Not Downsampling Bitmaps on Win95



>If anyone can tell me what the problem is, I would be most greatful.
>Right now, our only option is to upgrade the Win95 machine to WinNT4
>in order to solve this problem.  This will put us way behind as we
>have a severe time constraint.
>
>TIA.
>
>Anthony


I am curious,

1 same postscrirpt driver version?
2. using distiller ppd for the driver
3. setting the printer desription as distiller ppd in the printer selection
on page setup?
4. Printing as pdf's from exchange?
5. Using the same program to print the ps file on both machines?

Sounds like it is in the program your using to print the ps files. Check the
resolution of the page set up,

Just some thoughts to kick around

Randall


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Well, I finally got the stuffed programs unstuffed by getting stuffit deluxe
from work and bringing it home. I have tried out Toolbox and MadeToPrint
both. Read both manuals. I loved the automation of madetoprint. The only
thing that seemed to be strange was that a few of the option boxes were in
german! Seems that both are not needed but both have different features that
are unique. I am going to do some more experiments and let you know. Also,
this Friday, a rep of Imation software is bringing in their workflow softwar
to give me a demo of its abilites. Well, sorry about the rant, just no one
else to share this stuff with but with pdf buddies.

Randall
mueller@fidnet.com
WebHead Design
http://whdesign.com
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At 07:02 AM 1/13/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Anthony Q. Martin <anthony.martin@ces.clemson.edu>
>To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
>Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 11:54 AM
>Subject: Re: [PDF] Not Downsampling Bitmaps on Win95
>
>
>
>>If anyone can tell me what the problem is, I would be most greatful.
>>Right now, our only option is to upgrade the Win95 machine to WinNT4
>>in order to solve this problem.  This will put us way behind as we
>>have a severe time constraint.
>>
>>TIA.
>>
>>Anthony
>
>
>I am curious,
>
>1 same postscrirpt driver version?

As near as I can tell.  I am using the drivers provided by
Adobe on each system.  Is there anything else to use?

>2. using distiller ppd for the driver

Yes.

>3. setting the printer desription as distiller ppd in the printer selection
>on page setup?

Yes.  This is the default and I have not changed them.

>4. Printing as pdf's from exchange?

I have used both Exchange and the Reader 3.01.

>5. Using the same program to print the ps file on both machines?
>

Yes.  We initially had two copies of Acrobat.  One that I use on my
NT4 machine, and the other copy that is used on the Win95 machine.
After we discovered this problem, and to test it further, I installed 
a copy on my Win95 Laptop (which I will removed shortly) and I installed
a copy on my home machine (which I have already removed).  Both of the
laptop and my home machine run Win95b as does the other machine for which
we have a license to use Acrobat.

Anyway, we are installing from the CD-ROM and using the tools provided
to do the printing.  Also, we have moved the pdf files between the systems
and still see the same problem.  That is, a pdf file generated on any of
the Win95 machines has the problem, and when moved to and printed on
the NT machine, the problem is apparent (when printing).  If I generate
the pdf on my NT machine and move the pdf to a Win95 machine and then
print, the file is okay --- the images which appear on the printed
copy look just like those which appear when the original Word file
is printed.

>Sounds like it is in the program your using to print the ps files. Check the
>resolution of the page set up,
>

I hear you.  But it seems to me like the problem is in the pdf somehow.
We use distiller assistant to generate pdf files.  If you go to Settings
and open the printer folder, right click on distiller assistant and select
properties, one notes that on NT there are many more options that can be
tweaked under device setting than one can find on Win95.  This leads me
to believe that NT drivers are more robust than are the Win95 drivers.  
Perhaps the problem lies somewhere here.  Just a guess, though.

Anthony
>Just some thoughts to kick around
>
>Randall
>

Thanks Randall.  I appreciate any comments anyone can give me.

Anthony
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Tom,

I need the PS Driver to make PDF Files, which should use the system font,
not any embedded information. All the PS-Drivers I got embedd a subset of
the font and changes all fontnames which are not substituted by standard
fonts to something like "MSTT...."

Regards,
  Laura Dietz
( Mannesmann Arcor )





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Laura,
is that question in relation to make PDF documents or in gerneral?
Best wishes from Germany.
Tom
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Hello,
I am looking for a PostScript driver that does not embed fonts or at least,
does not change the Name of the original font.
Does anyone have a clue?
Regard,
   Laura Dietz
  (Mannesmann Arcor)

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Naresh,

When you got a exchange plugin its an extension ONLY for Acrobat Exchange.
Thus it wont work in Acrobat Reader nor in the ActiveX Control or any other
PDF-application

PS: What does this plugin do?

Regards,
     Laura Dietz
     (Mannesmann Arcor)




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This is just a wild guess, but I had problems with bitmaps which
appeared low quality on screen. It turned out that you have to view
them at the right zoom factor to appear correctly. I ended up
modifying my Word template to force the zoom factor. This was only
after I'd tried every combination of downsampling, subsampling,
compression and removal of transfer functions combinations.

Although I didn't print the files I'm wondering if, when printing, the
effective zoom isn't "right" whether the same effect occurs. The zoom
factor isn't 100% - to get screenshots to display without distortion I
had to zoom to 133%. The way to test this might be to print to a
different page size and see if the quality changes - if it does it
indicates a sensitivity.

This doesn't really explain the printing difference unless different
drivers are used or something else that might affect the actual zoom
figure used on printing.

Despite the advertisements for portability of postscript I've found
that creating postscript of a word document on a PC and Distilling it
on a Mac (or vice versa) doesn't produce the same results (even for
the same source document, no conversion, same fonts on both). I would
therefore advise generating the pdf on the platform that the
postscript was generated on.

Other than bitmap distortion though I've never had a problem after
distilling.

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-----Original Message-----
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To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Date: 13 January 1998 15:52
Subject: [PDF] Not Downsampling Bitmaps on Win95


>
>We have a task to distill about 1000 files to pdf. The source
material
>is a combination of Word, WordPerfect, and Postscript files.
>
>We have discovered that a significant number of these files contain
bitmap
>graphics, either grayscale or color.  Nearly all of them are plots
and
>illustrations and not photographs.  The types of images concerned
should
>really
>be vector images however their creators either don't understand the
>differences
>and/or just used the tools they had on hand.  Regardless, we must
distill
>the files.  BTW, some of the files contain monochrome bitmaps, too.
>
>Distiller's default is to downsample color and grayscale bitmap
images.  If we
>allow this, then the resulting pdf will yield very poor printouts of
the
>images
>as compared to printouts from the original file (from Word for
example).
>So we
>configured Distiller (through Job Options|Compression) to not
downsample
>the bitmaps.
>
>Here's the problem.  On my NT 4.0 system using Distiller 3.01, no
downsampling
>works file.  The produced PDF replicates the original file when
printed.
>However,
>if we distill the same file on a Win95 system, then the produced PDF
yields
>printouts
>whose images which are inferior to those of the original document.
The
>quality of the
>printout is independent of the system which does the printing.  That
is, if
>I generate
>the pdf on my NT4 system, it prints fine.  If I move that pdf to a
Win95
>system, it prints fine.  If, on the other hand, I generate the pdf on
a
>Win95 system, it prints
>the inferior bitmaps on that system as well as on my NT4 system.  So,
even
>with the
>exact same settings for Distiller 3.01 on both Win95 and WinNT
systems, the
>resulting
>pdf's are different.
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>On both systems, distiller is using the Acrobat Distiller 3.01
printer
>driver.  Also,
>I have tried 3 different Win95 system and have obtained exactly the
same
>results.
>
>Can someone suggest a fix for this problem.  Unfortunately, we need
to use
>the Win95
>system to produce the pdfs.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Anthony Q. Martin
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Hello,

We use 3.0 Catalog for win95. When Catalog tries to index a pdf-file with a
filename longer than 8 characters it seems to map it with a name in 8.3
conversion. Of course, the original filename isnt changed. But when you
open a document from search results, the wrong (8.3) filename is written in
the title bar. Moreover, all errormsgs reference to this file.

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Hello,

When using TrueTypeFonts that are not substituted by standard fonts, they
will be embedded in a PDF-document. Then catalog does not index such text,
as in document-intern search cant be found. How comes?

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Laura,

there are two different ways to make PDF files. 1. PDF Writer as Printer Driver, 2. Making PDF from PostScript with Acrobat Distiller.

I suppose you're going to use the second way, right?

You can configure Acrobat Distiller to *never* embed fonts, either PDF writer. But I do not really know what Distiller does with the TrueType fonts ("MSTT...." must be something like TrueType fonts). Usually standard fonts like Courier and Helvetica are *never* embedded.

On the TrueType I found a message in the list:

> On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 05:33:47PM -0500, olaf druemmer wrote:
	>
	>> Having thought about this for a while and having thrown in everything I 
	>> know about Acrobat I would bet either Distiller or Exchange or both are 
	>> capable of converting TrueType into Type 1 - at least internally. 
	>
	>This would be wonderful! I believe the Windows PS driver (Adobe and MS)
	>can do this...wonder why I never thought of this before! :-)
	>
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	>put this topic to rest.
	>
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Tom,

I need the PS Driver to make PDF Files, which should use the system font,
not any embedded information. All the PS-Drivers I got embedd a subset of
the font and changes all fontnames which are not substituted by standard
fonts to something like "MSTT...."

Regards,
  Laura Dietz
( Mannesmann Arcor )





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Laura,
is that question in relation to make PDF documents or in gerneral?
Best wishes from Germany.
Tom
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Hello,
I am looking for a PostScript driver that does not embed fonts or at least,
does not change the Name of the original font.
Does anyone have a clue?
Regard,
   Laura Dietz
  (Mannesmann Arcor)

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Bill,

I think it isn't a problem of the ressource for, if the error message says the file does not start with %PDF.

Are you able to open that file with any word processor or at least import? If so, let us the, what's in the first lines.

Tom

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I hope this question will be easier to answer than the last one I asked.
:>) Not exactly pre-press either, but ...

Acrobat reader 3.0 has a nasty habit that I hope to break. Whenever a
client using a PC sends me a word processing document, Acrobat Reader tries
to open it. It throws a message that the file couldn't be opened because it
doesn't start with %PDF.

To quote my 15-year-old stepdaughter, "I'm like, duh!"

However, in the meantime, it appears to have created a resource fork, and
marked the file as a PDF. So that even if I remove Acrobat reader and
exchange from the system and try to allow Easy Open and MacLinks plus do
their translation thing, I still get an error message, but this time
informing me that the application Acrobat Reader couldn't be found.

Is there a way to avoid this, other than keep a computer that doesn't have
Acrobat Reader installed, or removing it every time before I handle a PC
word processing file?

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Yes, Laura, that is the problem.

I think the reason is, that the search engine, a part of Acrobat Catalog, is from Verity. I hope someone can tell us, when this is going to change.

Tom


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Hello,

We use 3.0 Catalog for win95. When Catalog tries to index a pdf-file with a
filename longer than 8 characters it seems to map it with a name in 8.3
conversion. Of course, the original filename isnt changed. But when you
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>The prologue.ps file contains PostScript code that teaches Distiller to

>honor spot colors, so they don't get converted to CMYK or whatever.

Is that all it does? I also wonder what these files do and who can "get 
away with" not using them. I haven't been. I mostly create PDFs for the 
internet but also sometimes for high-end printing. Haven't heard any 
complaints.

??

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Hi Tom,

yes, I am converting documents with Distiller.

>You can configure Acrobat Distiller to *never* embed fonts, either PDF
writer. But I do not really know what Distiller >does with the TrueType
fonts ("MSTT...." must be something like TrueType fonts). Usually standard
fonts like Courier >and Helvetica are *never* embedded.

Yes, and thats the Problem. Because my TrueTypeFont (called Frutiger) is
already in PostScript-File renamed to a font like "MSTT..", this does not
work. When I put Frutiger on the never-embed-list, Distiller wont recognize
the font which should be destilled is Frutiger (cause now its called
MSTT...) When I put "MSTT..." on the list, it will not be embedded to the
PDF-File, but there is no font called MSTT... on my system. I havend found
a way to tell acrobat products the real fontname.

The stragtegy to mark all text and change it in Exchange (Edit->
textattributes) doesnt work anyway.
>> On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 05:33:47PM -0500, olaf druemmer wrote:
>    >
>    >> Having thought about this for a while and having thrown in
everything I
>    >> know about Acrobat I would bet either Distiller or Exchange or both
are
>    >> capable of converting TrueType into Type 1 - at least internally.
>    >
Hmmm... What does this mean according to my problem?

P.S: The reason why standard fonts like Courier and Helvetica are never
emdebbed is, that the PS driver is told so in the *.PPD file. Its kind of
hardcoded.

Its no problem to get a type1 version of my truetype font, if there is a
possibility to put Frutiger on the "standard list".

Regards, Laura Dietz
(Mannesmann Arcor)






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Laura,
there are two different ways to make PDF files. 1. PDF Writer as Printer
Driver, 2. Making PDF from PostScript with Acrobat Distiller.
I suppose you're going to use the second way, right?
You can configure Acrobat Distiller to *never* embed fonts, either PDF
writer. But I do not really know what Distiller does with the TrueType
fonts ("MSTT...." must be something like TrueType fonts). Usually standard
fonts like Courier and Helvetica are *never* embedded.
On the TrueType I found a message in the list:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 05:33:47PM -0500, olaf druemmer wrote:
     >
     >> Having thought about this for a while and having thrown in
everything I
     >> know about Acrobat I would bet either Distiller or Exchange or both
are
     >> capable of converting TrueType into Type 1 - at least internally.
     >
     >This would be wonderful! I believe the Windows PS driver (Adobe and
MS)
     >can do this...wonder why I never thought of this before! :-)
     >
     >Good job Olaf. This could be a wonderful Distiller option that would
really
     >put this topic to rest.
     >
     >-- Tom Mornini
     >-- InfoMania

Regards
Tom

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Tom,
I need the PS Driver to make PDF Files, which should use the system font,
not any embedded information. All the PS-Drivers I got embedd a subset of
the font and changes all fontnames which are not substituted by standard
fonts to something like "MSTT...."
Regards,
  Laura Dietz
( Mannesmann Arcor )




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Laura,
is that question in relation to make PDF documents or in gerneral?
Best wishes from Germany.
Tom
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Hello,
I am looking for a PostScript driver that does not embed fonts or at least,
does not change the Name of the original font.
Does anyone have a clue?
Regard,
   Laura Dietz
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Thanks to everyone who responded. The example that Ms. Larke referred me
to is exactly what I'm looking for.

Now I'm wondering, after putting 50-60 of this annotations on the 100 or
so illustrations in this book, will this thing even fit onto a CD (the
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I am using it all. But what do you meen with file links?
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>I want to automate the creation of file links, and it seems that Ventura
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From: Jennifer Amon <jamon@moen.com>
I need something that will both index pdf files and also allow
the indexing of the contents of multiple web servers.
------------------------------

January 14, 1998

Can I draw your attention to MUSCAT as a search engine ? Apologies if this
has already been raised on the e-list.

MUSCAT is a commercial Web search engine which we have used on our Web
site, which has a large number of PDF files. We use their single site
engine with their PDF EXTENSION added on. Your can get a flavour of how it
works by going to

http://www.soc.surrey.ac.uk/qb/

the CASS Question Bank and following SEARCH to MUSCAT. Then enter standard
terms about social and economic conditions like housing, education, work,
employment, to see how it works. When fully implemented, which it is not
yet, the CASS MUSCAT engine will take one to the highlighted word on the
page of the PDF document.

MUSCAT also have a multi-site version of their software, which is used on
our University web site,it has a pull down menu of different servers within
the university, and you can search them all or selected ones:

http://www.surrey.ac.uk/Search/index.html

CASS material is excluded from this search engine's domain, so there is
relatively little PDF material, but some, to see how it works. Try entering
'pdf' for a demo.


MUSCAT is a UK firm set up originally by people from the Cambridge
University Computing Laboratory. Its products are described on its web site:

http://www.muscat.com/

which also has links to other sites which use MUSCAT, eg the CCTA site of
the British government, which has a large number of PDF files and indexes
360 government servers. You can reach it via

http://www.muscat.com/chd/casefram.htm     then click on 'CCTA'.


We have no particular brief for MUSCAT, but when we examined the available
products last year this was the one which seemed to suit our requirements
best. At the time we could not find a freeware or shareware search engine
which encompassed PDF. MUSCAT does, however, cost money.

Martin Bulmer




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Laura,

take look at you printer driver configuration. There should be an option dialog for fonts. In that dialog you find a substitution table for fonts. At my system some of the Truetype fonts are send as Type42. When you open the resulting PDF document and mark some text to copy it to the clipboard, you would not get readable text.

Try to send them as Multiple Master Font (MMSans, MMSer). You'll get an errormessage, but it work. Check readability of the resulting PDF and try to copy text.

Viel Glueck.

Tom

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Hello,

When using TrueTypeFonts that are not substituted by standard fonts, they
will be embedded in a PDF-document. Then catalog does not index such text,
as in document-intern search cant be found. How comes?

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tm_consult@t-online.de on 14.01.98 13:58:18

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>Laura,
>there are two different ways to make PDF files. 1. PDF Writer as Printer
Driver, 2. Making PDF from PostScript with >Acrobat Distiller.
>I suppose you're going to use the second way, right?

Yes, the secound way.
>On the TrueType I found a message in the list:
>> On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 05:33:47PM -0500, olaf druemmer wrote:
>    >
>    >> Having thought about this for a while and having thrown in
everything I
>    >> know about Acrobat I would bet either Distiller or Exchange or both
are
>    >> capable of converting TrueType into Type 1 - at least internally.
>    >
>    >This would be wonderful! I believe the Windows PS driver (Adobe and
MS)
>    >can do this...wonder why I never thought of this before! :-)
>    >
>    >Good job Olaf. This could be a wonderful Distiller option that would
really
>    >put this topic to rest.
>    >
>    >-- Tom Mornini
>    >-- InfoMania
>
>>Regards
>Tom

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Tom,
I need the PS Driver to make PDF Files, which should use the system font,
not any embedded information. All the PS-Drivers I got embedd a subset of
the font and changes all fontnames which are not substituted by standard
fonts to something like "MSTT...."
Regards,
  Laura Dietz
( Mannesmann Arcor )




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Laura,
is that question in relation to make PDF documents or in gerneral?
Best wishes from Germany.
Tom
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Hello,
I am looking for a PostScript driver that does not embed fonts or at least,
does not change the Name of the original font.
Does anyone have a clue?
Regard,
   Laura Dietz
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Is anyone familiar enough with the autostart feature of Windows 95 to
determine if this could be setup for Acrobat? The first time the disc is
inserted, we would want the Reader to be installed. The second time it
is inserted, we would want a PDF file to be opened.


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You'd have to write a program that would be run from the CD at AUTOSTART time.

That program would have to check the Win95 (and don't forget, Win NT 4+)
registry to see if the appropriate "PDF" stuff was already there (for either
Reader or Exchange) and at the right version (depending on your PDFs, you
might require Version 3 functionality, for example).

If all the right conditions were present, that program could then open a
named (hard-coded) PDF, presumably located on the CD.  If conditions were
not correct, the program could interact with the user to tell them exactly
what was found, what's needed, and what you recommend should be done next
(e.g., install Acrobat Reader from the CD).

This should be relatively straightforward with InstallShield, since it has
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Laura,

    We also had that problem but solved it by adding/including a
"title" in the 'Document Info' selection - 'General' which can be
accessed from the 'file' menu in Exchange.  Once a document
includes a title, the index refers to that title in a search.  It
still shows the 8.3 name during the catalog but not in the search
results.  Hope this helps!

Tracie DeVoe
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Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote:

> We use 3.0 Catalog for win95. When Catalog tries to index a
> pdf-file with a
> filename longer than 8 characters it seems to map it with a
> name in 8.3
> conversion. Of course, the original filename isnt changed. But
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Laura,

as I mentioned in the other mail, concerning printer setup, there's a substitution list to change fonts. I myself installed an 'American TypeWriter' Type 1 font with ATM Deluxe for Windows 95. The font now appears in the substitution list and in fontlist for Distiller.

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Tom,

1) with "standard list" i mean the list of 13 standard fonts (helvetica,
courier, etc..)

2) I can get a type1 font, but the font with which the documents are
generated is the truetype font

I cant stop my PS-Driver from embedding truetype fonts and every embedded
font changes its fontname. So I cant tell Acrobat to use the font from
another resource (because its name has changed)

The main problem is, I cant search for text. (Touch Up doesnt work either,
but thats not so important)

Regards, Laura Dietz
(Mannesmann Arcor)







tm_consult@t-online.de on 14.01.98 16:34:01

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Laura,
what do you mean with *standard list*?
>    "Its no problem to get a type1 version of my truetype font, if there
is a possibility to put Frutiger on the "standard list"".
If you can get a type one font of your Frutiger, it would be the end of
your problem.
See my other mail and try to substitute with a MultipleMaster Font.
Tom

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Hi Tom,
yes, I am converting documents with Distiller.
>You can configure Acrobat Distiller to *never* embed fonts, either PDF
writer. But I do not really know what Distiller >does with the TrueType
fonts ("MSTT...." must be something like TrueType fonts). Usually standard
fonts like Courier >and Helvetica are *never* embedded.
Yes, and thats the Problem. Because my TrueTypeFont (called Frutiger) is
already in PostScript-File renamed to a font like "MSTT..", this does not
work. When I put Frutiger on the never-embed-list, Distiller wont recognize
the font which should be destilled is Frutiger (cause now its called
MSTT...) When I put "MSTT..." on the list, it will not be embedded to the
PDF-File, but there is no font called MSTT... on my system. I havend found
a way to tell acrobat products the real fontname.
The stragtegy to mark all text and change it in Exchange (Edit->
textattributes) doesnt work anyway.
>> On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 05:33:47PM -0500, olaf druemmer wrote:
>    >
>    >> Having thought about this for a while and having thrown in
everything I
>    >> know about Acrobat I would bet either Distiller or Exchange or both
are
>    >> capable of converting TrueType into Type 1 - at least internally.
>    >
Hmmm... What does this mean according to my problem?
P.S: The reason why standard fonts like Courier and Helvetica are never
emdebbed is, that the PS driver is told so in the *.PPD file. Its kind of
hardcoded.
Its no problem to get a type1 version of my truetype font, if there is a
possibility to put Frutiger on the "standard list".
Regards, Laura Dietz
(Mannesmann Arcor)





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Laura,
there are two different ways to make PDF files. 1. PDF Writer as Printer
Driver, 2. Making PDF from PostScript with Acrobat Distiller.
I suppose you're going to use the second way, right?
You can configure Acrobat Distiller to *never* embed fonts, either PDF
writer. But I do not really know what Distiller does with the TrueType
fonts ("MSTT...." must be something like TrueType fonts). Usually standard
fonts like Courier and Helvetica are *never* embedded.
On the TrueType I found a message in the list:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 05:33:47PM -0500, olaf druemmer wrote:
     >
     >> Having thought about this for a while and having thrown in
everything I
     >> know about Acrobat I would bet either Distiller or Exchange or both
are
     >> capable of converting TrueType into Type 1 - at least internally.
     >
     >This would be wonderful! I believe the Windows PS driver (Adobe and
MS)
     >can do this...wonder why I never thought of this before! :-)
     >
     >Good job Olaf. This could be a wonderful Distiller option that would
really
     >put this topic to rest.
     >
     >-- Tom Mornini
     >-- InfoMania
Regards
Tom
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Tom,
I need the PS Driver to make PDF Files, which should use the system font,
not any embedded information. All the PS-Drivers I got embedd a subset of
the font and changes all fontnames which are not substituted by standard
fonts to something like "MSTT...."
Regards,
  Laura Dietz
( Mannesmann Arcor )



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Laura,
is that question in relation to make PDF documents or in gerneral?
Best wishes from Germany.
Tom
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Hello,
I am looking for a PostScript driver that does not embed fonts or at least,
does not change the Name of the original font.
Does anyone have a clue?
Regard,
   Laura Dietz
  (Mannesmann Arcor)
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Hi Laura,

Catalog doesn't care about FONT. It only looks at the text in the document
and indexes it. If you can send us a sample of that file, we might be able
to figure out the problem. Thanks.

Ada Yue
Quality Assurance Manager, Acrobat
Adobe Systems Incorporated
ayue@adobe.com

At 12:42 PM 1/14/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>Hello,
>
>When using TrueTypeFonts that are not substituted by standard fonts, they
>will be embedded in a PDF-document. Then catalog does not index such text,
>as in document-intern search cant be found. How comes?
>
>Regards, Laura Dietz
>(Mannesmann Arcor)
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     I'm fairly new to this list, so I hope this question hasn't been done 
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     I'm putting a 2.5 meg catalog on the Web in Acrobat. When I download 
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     pages while it downloads, just as it should be. But if I then decide 
     to save the file to my hard disk, the download starts over-- another 
     20 minutes on a 28.8 modem! 
     
     Is there any way to save the file that is already on screen? I can 
     print it. It seems to me I should be able to save it.
     
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Know what guy's...seems it's a never ending need of this plugin and that
plugin. Had the need to get good spot colors out, found out that I needed a
plugin to print the spot colors. had need of this, that, all end up with
needing plugins..whew..

To day I spent the afternoon with Larwence Imaging Systems, they are major
beta testers for software and hardware. The guy I spent time with was one of
the developer's of "Pitstop" He also is working with adobe and said that in
march at the Seboat(?) show in NewYork we will see the new plugins that will
be available. He wouldn't tell me and couldn't, said I will have to wait and
see

Good. Hope this stuff gets better..

Randall

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>To day I spent the afternoon with Larwence Imaging Systems, they are major
>beta testers for software and hardware. The guy I spent time with was one of
>the developer's of "Pitstop" He also is working with adobe and said that in
>march at the Seboat(?) show in NewYork we will see the new plugins that will
>be available. He wouldn't tell me and couldn't, said I will have to wait and
>see.


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Hi:

Don't know if this is Mac specific or not (but I'm not taking any chances
in this platform-assertive era).

Can someone help clarify for me the difference between checking embed all
fonts and embed subset as opposed to NOT checking embed all fonts and YES
checking embed subsets? The latter gives smaller files.

More to the point, if I embed subsets (but not check embed all fonts) and I
take the file to another machine, will it still print properly.

TIA, I'm a little confused by this distinction.

/jonathan

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Contact Lantana Corporation,

www.lantanarips.com and download Crackerjack.
It is a plug-in for Acrobat Exchange to separate PDF Files.

I hope this can help you.

Vainer Gilioli
LinkService SRL
Italy

At 07.23 14/01/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>Know what guy's...seems it's a never ending need of this plugin and that
>plugin. Had the need to get good spot colors out, found out that I needed a
>plugin to print the spot colors. had need of this, that, all end up with
>needing plugins..whew..
>
>To day I spent the afternoon with Larwence Imaging Systems, they are major
>beta testers for software and hardware. The guy I spent time with was one of
>the developer's of "Pitstop" He also is working with adobe and said that in
>march at the Seboat(?) show in NewYork we will see the new plugins that will
>be available. He wouldn't tell me and couldn't, said I will have to wait and
>see
>
>Good. Hope this stuff gets better..
>
>Randall
>
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Morning all,

I have a number of queries, if anyone can help it would be much appreciated.
If I am repeating a question previously asked then I apologise.

here goes ...

A client of mine is using producing a large quantity of research nightly.
Their printers are all Lexmark Optra PSs.  We are using Acrobat Exchange 3.0
(3.01 is coming ...)

1. The research is formatted in MS Word 95 (PC).
2. A postscript file is produced and distilled (using the Lexmark PPD)

Problem 1
========
When using the touch-up text tool we experienced font scambling erratically
and inconsistently.

Fix
===
We were told to use a true postscript PPDF

However, whilst I realise that the Lexmark printer driver produces only
'emulated' postscript I am reluctant to change to a 'pure' postscript PPD as
the page layout changes.

In detail, the printable area of the page changes from printer to printer,
if we change the driver then the document repaginates in Word and much time
is lost reformatting the document.

Does anyone have any suggestions for this problem, and/or a workaround.
Perhaps I have a flaw in my logic ...

Problem 2
========
My client is now considering using a TT font 'Univers'

This is multiple master font and we have experienced some problems with the
font when the 'Univers - Condensed' font is used at 7pt. Text formatted with
this font appears as a solid horizontal line in the reader / exchange.

* Font embedding is turned on.
* This happens whether compression is on or off.

My opinion would be that a PS font would resolve the problem. Secondly I
believe that sticking with the fonts distributed with the reader would offer
a simpler more reliable solution. Thirdly, has anyone considered the legal
issue of embedding a proprietary font in a PDF and what are your thoughts.

If anyone is able to help with these issues I would really appreciate it.

regards,

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Ada,

I do have the same problem like Laura, when TrueType fonts are used within the PDF Document and the PDF file was created with Distiller 3.0.

I'll send an example as separately to your e-mail account.

Thank you.

tom


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Hi Laura,

Catalog doesn't care about FONT. It only looks at the text in the document
and indexes it. If you can send us a sample of that file, we might be able
to figure out the problem. Thanks.

Ada Yue
Quality Assurance Manager, Acrobat
Adobe Systems Incorporated
ayue@adobe.com

At 12:42 PM 1/14/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>Hello,
>
>When using TrueTypeFonts that are not substituted by standard fonts, they
>will be embedded in a PDF-document. Then catalog does not index such text,
>as in document-intern search cant be found. How comes?
>
>Regards, Laura Dietz
>(Mannesmann Arcor)
>
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I would suggest sending them the distiller PPD driver...

-----Original Message-----
From: Karl De Abrew <karl@roundtable.com.au>
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Date: Thursday, January 15, 1998 5:41 AM
Subject: [PDF] PPD, TT and PS Fonts


>
>Morning all,
>
>I have a number of queries, if anyone can help it would be much
appreciated.
>If I am repeating a question previously asked then I apologise.
>
>here goes ...
>
>A client of mine is using producing a large quantity of research nightly.
>Their printers are all Lexmark Optra PSs.  We are using Acrobat Exchange
3.0
>(3.01 is coming ...)
>
>1. The research is formatted in MS Word 95 (PC).
>2. A postscript file is produced and distilled (using the Lexmark PPD)
>
>Problem 1
>========
>When using the touch-up text tool we experienced font scambling erratically
>and inconsistently.
>
>Fix
>===
>We were told to use a true postscript PPDF
>
>However, whilst I realise that the Lexmark printer driver produces only
>'emulated' postscript I am reluctant to change to a 'pure' postscript PPD
as
>the page layout changes.
>
>In detail, the printable area of the page changes from printer to printer,
>if we change the driver then the document repaginates in Word and much time
>is lost reformatting the document.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions for this problem, and/or a workaround.
>Perhaps I have a flaw in my logic ...
>
>Problem 2
>========
>My client is now considering using a TT font 'Univers'
>
>This is multiple master font and we have experienced some problems with the
>font when the 'Univers - Condensed' font is used at 7pt. Text formatted
with
>this font appears as a solid horizontal line in the reader / exchange.
>
>* Font embedding is turned on.
>* This happens whether compression is on or off.
>
>My opinion would be that a PS font would resolve the problem. Secondly I
>believe that sticking with the fonts distributed with the reader would
offer
>a simpler more reliable solution. Thirdly, has anyone considered the legal
>issue of embedding a proprietary font in a PDF and what are your thoughts.
>
>If anyone is able to help with these issues I would really appreciate it.
>
>regards,
>
>----
>Karl De Abrew - karl@roundtable.com.au
>Round Table Solutions - SendMail for Acrobat Exchange - Download RTSJoust
>today!
>http://www.roundtable.com.au
>
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Heather,

my Capture does work properly with a double side page scanner. But the scanner scans both, front and back of the page, directly.

Do you have a single side page scanner?

How do you access the scanner? Via Capture scan menu or another TWAIN scan menu?

Best wishes from Germany

Tom


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Betreff:   [CAPTR] double sided pages

I recently began using Capture 2.0 and discovered that it doesn't have the
same double-sided stack recognition feature that Capture 1 did. I tried
just about everything and couldn't get the pages to come out in the right
order. The only solution I've come up with is to scan the document in
Capture and then use Adobe Exchange to rearrange the pages. Any suggestions
on how to create pdf files from double sided documents more efficiently?


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Karl,

to your problem 2:

I sometimes 'stumbled' over horizontal lines, but when I zoomed in everything was readable.

The policy of embedding fonts differs from font manufacturer to manufacturer. I think Agfa, Adobe and Linotype allows embedding fonts.

Best wishes from Germany.

Tom


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Morning all,

I have a number of queries, if anyone can help it would be much appreciated.
If I am repeating a question previously asked then I apologise.

here goes ...

A client of mine is using producing a large quantity of research nightly.
Their printers are all Lexmark Optra PSs.  We are using Acrobat Exchange 3.0
(3.01 is coming ...)

1. The research is formatted in MS Word 95 (PC).
2. A postscript file is produced and distilled (using the Lexmark PPD)

Problem 1
========
When using the touch-up text tool we experienced font scambling erratically
and inconsistently.

Fix
===
We were told to use a true postscript PPDF

However, whilst I realise that the Lexmark printer driver produces only
'emulated' postscript I am reluctant to change to a 'pure' postscript PPD as
the page layout changes.

In detail, the printable area of the page changes from printer to printer,
if we change the driver then the document repaginates in Word and much time
is lost reformatting the document.

Does anyone have any suggestions for this problem, and/or a workaround.
Perhaps I have a flaw in my logic ...

Problem 2
========
My client is now considering using a TT font 'Univers'

This is multiple master font and we have experienced some problems with the
font when the 'Univers - Condensed' font is used at 7pt. Text formatted with
this font appears as a solid horizontal line in the reader / exchange.

* Font embedding is turned on.
* This happens whether compression is on or off.

My opinion would be that a PS font would resolve the problem. Secondly I
believe that sticking with the fonts distributed with the reader would offer
a simpler more reliable solution. Thirdly, has anyone considered the legal
issue of embedding a proprietary font in a PDF and what are your thoughts.

If anyone is able to help with these issues I would really appreciate it.

regards,

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>>Also, mac users...why wouldn't a .sea file not extract on my mac? it asks
>>for the dos program? Got all these neat demos to try and can't get to them!
>>
>
>A .sea file that does not extract itself anymore probably has lost its
>resource fork (that's where the self extraction trick comes from...) due
>to having been copied to or from a non-Mac (Wintel or whatever) machine.
>You may be lucky, if you simply tried to use free StuffIt Expander - it
>is very helpful with most compressed files.


A Mac shareware utility I keep on my desktop and use almost daily is called
File Fanatic. File Fanatic is a drag and drop application which can either
tell you a file's TYPE/CREATOR abbreviation or set the TYPE and Creator for
one or many files at a time. In doing so it creates a resource fork for
files that do not have one. A file which appears with a generic icon is
generally lacking a resource fork, or else has one that is unknown to the
desktop db.

A PDF file's type is either TEXT or" PDF " (PDFspace); its creator is CARO.
Case sensitive. A .sea archive from Stuffit is type APPL (application),
creator aust.

File Fanatic may be found on numerous shareware sites.

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Jonathan Bauer wrote:
> 
> Can someone help clarify for me the difference between checking embed all
> fonts and embed subset as opposed to NOT checking embed all fonts and YES
> checking embed subsets? The latter gives smaller files.

The following is a description of the features, as I understand them. 
Corrections welcome.

Checking "Embed all fonts" is essentially a choice between a) embedding the
source font that is called in the document or PostScript file, and b)
substituting a Level I standard font (Times, Helvetica, Courier) or one of the
basic Adobe multiple-master fonts (AdobeSerMM, AdobeSanSerMM) for fonts that are
called in the document or PostScript file.  In other words, if Acrobat
encounters a font in your file that is not in its distribution, and you have
chosen NOT to embed fonts, then it has to choose one of the above to approximate
your font in an attempt to faithfully reproduce the text.

Acrobat seemingly makes this determination according to the type of encoding the
source font uses, and so if a dingbats face is used, it will probably choose
Symbol as a replacement.  I have seen instances, though, where a good choice was
not made by Acrobat, resulting in strange, unsuitable characters being
substituted.

Checking "Embed subsets" is a choice between, of the fonts that are embedded, a)
embedding the entire font, or b) embedding only a portion ("subset") of the
font, according to which characters are used in the document or PostScript file.

So therefore not embedding fonts saves space, but places absolute trust in
Acrobat's ability to find suitable replacements for fonts not distributed with
Acrobat; embedding subsets saves space (and I don't know of a down side).

> More to the point, if I embed subsets (but not check embed all fonts) and I
> take the file to another machine, will it still print properly.

Knowing what you know now, what is probably happening is that Adobe multiple
master fonts are substituted, but they look so close to the original specified
font that you can't tell the difference without looking closely.

Our work includes lots of mathematics and special characters, and so typically
lots of fonts, even custom ones.  We ALWAYS use "Embed all fonts" and "Embed
subsets".  Honestly, I can't think of a good reason I would turn those options
off.

Cory Snavely
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I have one addition to Cory's explanation, based on my limited experience.
Cory Snavely wrote:

> Checking "Embed subsets" is a choice between, of the fonts that are embedded, a)
> embedding the entire font, or b) embedding only a portion ("subset") of the
> font, according to which characters are used in the document or PostScript file.
>
> So therefore not embedding fonts saves space, but places absolute trust in
> Acrobat's ability to find suitable replacements for fonts not distributed with
> Acrobat; embedding subsets saves space (and I don't know of a down side).

If you need to edit the PDF text, using the Touchup Tool, and have only embedded
subsets,
you can run into the problem that the specific characters you need were not in the
original
subset.  We've run into a few instances in which we could not make the minor
corrections
we wanted to (in the PDF document) and were required to return to the native
FrameMaker file
instead.

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     I'm fairly new to this list, so I hope this question hasn't been done 
     to death already.
     
     I'm putting a 2.5 meg catalog on the Web in Acrobat. When I download 
     the file to the Acrobat viewer in Netscape, I can look at different 
     pages while it downloads, just as it should be. But if I then decide 
     to save the file to my hard disk, the download starts over-- another 
     20 minutes on a 28.8 modem! 
     
     Is there any way to save the file that is already on screen? I can 
     print it. It seems to me I should be able to save it.
     
     Thanks for any help,
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	ULF >> I am using it all. But what do you meen with file links?

> [KS]  I want to precode a file that I will output via Ventura (or some
> other DTP package) so that one could click on a reference (once this
> become PDF) and have it be a file link (open another PDF file).
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We have a disturbing effects in our form fields when using Exchange or
Reader 3.0 on Windows 95 and Windows 3.1. We have a form which contains
several single-line text fields, and two multiline text fields.

When tabbing into a single-line field, the cursor appears properly, and we
can enter data with no problems; any character appears immediately.

However, when we tab into a multiline field, the cursor does not appear,
and we may have to enter text blind. Only when we leave the field, the text
appears. We can make the cursor/text appear when we use the hand tool to
slightly move the page.

Another weird effect we found is that in Full Screen mode or any scaling
>100%, tabbing into the next field does not work at all. We'd have to scale
to 100% and then back to make the cursor appear.

It must be noted that this effect does not occur on a Mac; here, everything
behaves as it is supposed.

Does anyone out there have an idea what is really happening, and how this
can be fixed?

Any comment is highly appreciated.


Max Wyss
PRODOK Engineering AG
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Karl,

about your problem 1: Use Adobe's PostScript driver and the Distiller PPD.
There, change the border settings to the same as you have for your Lexmark
printer. This makes the printable area the same, and this would also
prevent Word's favourite activity ... reformatting text.

about your problem 2: Could it be that your Reader settings are to grey out
font sizes below 7 pt? Try scaling up and see what happens.

Hope, this can help.


Max Wyss
PRODOK Engineering AG
Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing
CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland

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e-mail:  mailto:prodok@prodok.ch    or    100012.44@compuserve.com

______________


>Morning all,
>
>I have a number of queries, if anyone can help it would be much appreciated.
>If I am repeating a question previously asked then I apologise.
>
>here goes ...
>
>A client of mine is using producing a large quantity of research nightly.
>Their printers are all Lexmark Optra PSs.  We are using Acrobat Exchange 3.0
>(3.01 is coming ...)
>
>1. The research is formatted in MS Word 95 (PC).
>2. A postscript file is produced and distilled (using the Lexmark PPD)
>

>Problem 2
>========
>My client is now considering using a TT font 'Univers'
>
>This is multiple master font and we have experienced some problems with the
>font when the 'Univers - Condensed' font is used at 7pt. Text formatted with
>this font appears as a solid horizontal line in the reader / exchange.
>
>* Font embedding is turned on.
>* This happens whether compression is on or off.
>
>My opinion would be that a PS font would resolve the problem. Secondly I
>believe that sticking with the fonts distributed with the reader would offer
>a simpler more reliable solution. Thirdly, has anyone considered the legal
>issue of embedding a proprietary font in a PDF and what are your thoughts.
>
>If anyone is able to help with these issues I would really appreciate it.
>
>regards,
>
>----
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There is a preference which greeks all characters below a
certain point size ... usually 6 ... at some page views.  You can
turn this feature on or off, and control the point size at which it
occurs.  The gray lines where small text should be are from
this preference.

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>
> I sometimes 'stumbled' over horizontal lines, but when I zoomed in
> everything was readable.
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With web pages themselves you can always later look at either the
history or look at what has been stored in the temporary cache used by
Navigator. I'm not sure that this is the case where a plug-in is used.
I think that the page and link will be there but that the plug-in will
forget about the document if you close the page down later...?

The other problem I can see is that if you are using the Reader as the
plug-in it doesn't have the ability to save the file directly. Two
possibilities might be to 1) use Exchange as the plug-in (which can
save) or to 2) print from Reader to a postscript file and then find
Acrobat Distiller to convert this. You might (I'm not sure) lose some
of the special effects such as hypertext links or bookmarks?

It's worth a try.
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>
>
>     I'm fairly new to this list, so I hope this question hasn't been
done
>     to death already.
>
>     I'm putting a 2.5 meg catalog on the Web in Acrobat. When I
download
>     the file to the Acrobat viewer in Netscape, I can look at
different
>     pages while it downloads, just as it should be. But if I then
decide
>     to save the file to my hard disk, the download starts over--
another
>     20 minutes on a 28.8 modem!
>
>     Is there any way to save the file that is already on screen? I
can
>     print it. It seems to me I should be able to save it.
>
>     Thanks for any help,
>     Janice Prescott
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In both Exchange and Reader 3.01 running on Win95, when I attempt to =
print some or all pages of some large PDF files I have created with =
Distiller 3.01, I get a "Write error" error message accompanied by a =
"Could not start print job" error message. What baffles me is that it =
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At 7:23 AM -0600 1/14/98, Randall Mueller wrote:
>Know what guy's...seems it's a never ending need of this plugin and that
>plugin. Had the need to get good spot colors out, found out that I needed a
>plugin to print the spot colors. had need of this, that, all end up with
>needing plugins..whew..

Crackerjack, an Exchange 3.01 plug-in, allows you to print spot colors
today, plus allows control over separations, screening, scaling, fine
positioning, negative print, mirror print, etc.

You can check it out at our web site where you will find ordering
information and a demo version.  US list price is $495.  It is available
for the Macintosh now.  The Windows version (95 and NT) will be available
in about a month.

Bob Greene
Lantana - makers of Crackerjack, a 1997 winner of the GATF InterTech
Technology, Publish Magazine's Impact Award and Seybold Editors Award.

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At 7:23 AM -0600 1/14/98, Randall Mueller wrote:
>Know what guy's...seems it's a never ending need of this plugin and that
>plugin. Had the need to get good spot colors out, found out that I needed a
>plugin to print the spot colors. had need of this, that, all end up with
>needing plugins..whew..

Crackerjack, an Exchange 3.01 plug-in, allows you to print spot colors
today, plus allows control over separations, screening, scaling, fine
positioning, negative print, mirror print, etc.

You can check it out at our web site where you will find ordering
information and a demo version.  US list price is $495.  It is available
for the Macintosh now.  The Windows version (95 and NT) will be available
in about a month.

Bob Greene
Lantana - makers of Crackerjack, a 1997 winner of the GATF InterTech
Technology, Publish Magazine's Impact Award and Seybold Editors Award.

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>     I'm fairly new to this list, so I hope this question hasn't been done
>     to death already.
>
>     I'm putting a 2.5 meg catalog on the Web in Acrobat. When I download
>     the file to the Acrobat viewer in Netscape, I can look at different
>     pages while it downloads, just as it should be. But if I then decide
>     to save the file to my hard disk, the download starts over-- another
>     20 minutes on a 28.8 modem!
>
>     Is there any way to save the file that is already on screen? I can
>     print it. It seems to me I should be able to save it.

In Netscape v. 4, at least the macintosh variety, with the acrobat netscape
plugin loaded, you click on the frame that contains the pdf file, then go
to the file menu, select "save as" in the resulting save dialog make sure
the popup is set to source, not text.

/jonathan

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Hi All;

The forms demo seemed to work well with everyone.  The traffic got heavy and 
tested the system (which is what I wanted) and the CGI did not crash!

There were some minor reports of slow access and minor problems with Mac's 
but all reports that I received were quit positive.

Thanks for the test.

Regards,

dps

D. P. Story
Department of Mathematical Sciences
The University of Akron
Akron, OH  44325
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telephone: (330) 972-7514

e-Calculus: Calculus I tutorial on the Web.
Written in TeX and converted to PDF
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And, ...

An Algebra Review on 10 Lessons
TeX to PDF
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     I'm fairly new to this list, so I hope this question hasn't been done 
     to death already.
     
     I'm putting a 2.5 meg catalog on the Web in Acrobat. When I download 
     the file to the Acrobat viewer in Netscape, I can look at different 
     pages while it downloads, just as it should be. But if I then decide 
     to save the file to my hard disk, the download starts over-- another 
     20 minutes on a 28.8 modem! 
     
     Is there any way to save the file that is already on screen? I can 
     print it. It seems to me I should be able to save it.
     
     Thanks for any help,
     Janice Prescott
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>Can anyone help?
>
>We have postscript files that we are converting to pdf using Windows
>environment and Adobe Acrobat.  Once converted to pdf, I add the links by
>using Acrobat Exchange.
>
>We have documents that are updated periodically with a higher Issue number.
>The pages are possibly the same.  Without having to link all of the
>references again on an updated document, is there a way to extract the old
>links onto the new?
>
>Thanks in advance for your responses!
>
>Regina Nunn
>Lucent Technologies
>
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Tom,

I would like to know more about IntallShield.  Have you used this program
yourself?  Who makes it?  Mark, what solution have you come up with.  If you
purchase IntallShield, please let me know how it went.  I will need such a
program in the future.

Scottie

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A free version of InstallShield can be downloaded free from
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It is easy to use. If you have any problems using it then write to me
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>
>Tom,
>
>I would like to know more about IntallShield.  Have you used this program
>yourself?  Who makes it?  Mark, what solution have you come up with.  If
you
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>Scottie
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Is there a plugin to automate the process of extracting pages. I have a PDF
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Is there a way to batch process a PDF project so that all the PDF files open the same way?



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Jeremy Treister wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to batch process a PDF project so that all the PDF
> files open the same way?
> 

Try Ambia's Compose, does the job nicely.

-- 

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Jeremy:
Ambia's Compose has a module that set's file open and security =
parameters in batch mode. Compose is a plug-in to Acrobat Exchange 3.0 =
for Windows 95 and NT. More information, as well as an evaluation =
version, can be found on our Web site (www.ambia.com). Or, feel free to =
call me directly.

Karl Schmidtmann
Ambia
kschmidt@ambia.com
707-829-7500

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Is there a way to batch process a PDF project so that all the PDF files =
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          v 312.786.1330.515

            888.346.4727

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<italic>Visual Business Models

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Jeremy Treister wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to batch process a PDF project so that all the PDF
> files open the same way?
> 
> Jeremy Treister
> jtreister@graphicmis.com
> Sensorium Software, Inc.
> 1353 South Wabash Avenue
> Chicago, Illinois 60605
> v 312.786.1330.515
> 888.346.4727
> f 312.786.1324
> Visual Business Models
> Intellectual Multimedia

If you find an answer to this 64 million dollar question please let me
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Hi Karl! Any news on future releases of Compose? Features?

> ----------
> From: 	kschmidtmann@ambia.com on behalf of Karl Schmidtmann
> Sent: 	Thursday, January 15, 1998 4:22 PM
> To: 	'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'
> Subject: 	RE: [PDF] Global Changes to File>Document Info>Open
> 
> Jeremy:
> Ambia's Compose has a module that set's file open and security
> parameters in batch mode. Compose is a plug-in to Acrobat Exchange 3.0
> for Windows 95 and NT. More information, as well as an evaluation
> version, can be found on our Web site (www.ambia.com). Or, feel free
> to call me directly.
> 
> Karl Schmidtmann
> Ambia
> kschmidt@ambia.com
> 707-829-7500
> 
> 	----------
> 	From: 	Jeremy Treister[SMTP:jtreister@graphicmis.com]
> 	Sent: 	Thursday, January 15, 1998 12:11 PM
> 	To: 	pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
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> 
> 
> 	Is there a way to batch process a PDF project so that all the
> PDF files open the same way?
> 
> 
> 
> 	Jeremy Treister
> 
> 	jtreister@graphicmis.com
> 
> 	     Sensorium Software, Inc.
> 
> 	     1353 South Wabash Avenue
> 
> 	     Chicago, Illinois 60605
> 
> 	          v 312.786.1330.515
> 
> 	            888.346.4727
> 
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> 
> 	Intellectual Multimedia
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>...seems it's a never ending need of this plugin and that
>>plugin....


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It would make more sense (with a view to minimising maintenance
overheads) to find an add-in for the source document application that
generates the postscript with links, bookmarks etc directly from the
source for conversion.

Depending on whether you use a DTP application like Quark, PageMaker,
FrameMaker or the ubiquitous MS Word there are add-ins that will spare
you this donkey work....


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Date: 15 January 1998 20:22
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>
>
>>Can anyone help?
>>
>>We have postscript files that we are converting to pdf using Windows
>>environment and Adobe Acrobat.  Once converted to pdf, I add the
links by
>>using Acrobat Exchange.
>>
>>We have documents that are updated periodically with a higher Issue
number.
>>The pages are possibly the same.  Without having to link all of the
>>references again on an updated document, is there a way to extract
the old
>>links onto the new?
>>
>>Thanks in advance for your responses!
>>
>>Regina Nunn
>>Lucent Technologies
>>
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>
>Crackerjack, an Exchange 3.01 plug-in, allows you to print spot colors
>today, plus allows control over separations, screening, scaling, fine
>positioning, negative print, mirror print, etc.
>

Only if your RIP supports in-RIP separation and if that in-RIP separation 
works for spot colors as well. Some RIPs do offer in-RIP separation, but 
only for CMYK: spot colors then get mapped into CMYK.


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Hi there,

Problem2:

In Adobes PS-Driver I found an option Preferences -> Fonts -> Send Fonts
As.. -> Theshold switch between downloading bitmap or outline fonts,
measured in pixels

This means: When using fonts below this size, they will be send as pixels,
which can be degererated as a line. Otherwise they will be send as scalable
"outlines".

Hope this helps,
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Ada,

I know, that Catalog doesnt care about the font style, but when using
TTF-fonts it seems, that any text-information has dissapeared from the
document. When trying to capture a document whith TTF-fonts, I got an
errormsg like "this part is neither graphic nor font..."

I will send you a test document privatly

Regards,
     Laura Dietz
     (Mannesmann Arcor)






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Hi Laura,
Catalog doesn't care about FONT. It only looks at the text in the document
and indexes it. If you can send us a sample of that file, we might be able
to figure out the problem. Thanks.
Ada Yue
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At 12:42 PM 1/14/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>Hello,
>
>When using TrueTypeFonts that are not substituted by standard fonts, they
>will be embedded in a PDF-document. Then catalog does not index such text,
>as in document-intern search cant be found. How comes?
>
>Regards, Laura Dietz
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Tom,

In my printer driver preferences i found the option fonts->send fonts as..
-> sent TrueTypeFonts as:

There, I've got the choice between Outline, Bitmaps, Type42 and Don't Send.
I unsuccessfully tried all of these.

The only possibility seems, to be ATM, but where can I get it?
It was included in Acrobat version 2.1 but not anymore in 3.0.

Danke,
     Laura Dietz
     (Mannesmann Arcor)






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Laura,
take look at you printer driver configuration. There should be an option
dialog for fonts. In that dialog you find a substitution table for fonts.
At my system some of the Truetype fonts are send as Type42. When you open
the resulting PDF document and mark some text to copy it to the clipboard,
you would not get readable text.
Try to send them as Multiple Master Font (MMSans, MMSer). You'll get an
errormessage, but it work. Check readability of the resulting PDF and try
to copy text.
Viel Glueck.
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Hello,
When using TrueTypeFonts that are not substituted by standard fonts, they
will be embedded in a PDF-document. Then catalog does not index such text,
as in document-intern search cant be found. How comes?
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Hi,

I wrote such an add-on for the german version of MS Word95 (but I Im not
allowed to provide it to you). It works like this:

1.) You print the Word Document with a PS-Driver to File
2.) Before distilling you append the PDFmark commands to the PS-File
3.) Now you've got a PS-File which can be converted to PDF by Distiller

The PDFmark commands allow you to specify links, bookmarks, document
information, notes, etc. The syntax can be read in
Acrobat3/Exchange/Help/pdfmark.pdf

Question: has anyone wrote such a Word-add-on before (except me) which
works with the german verrsion of word95?

Regards,
     Laura Dietz
     (Mannesmann Arcor)






nic@nplum.demon.co.uk on 15.01.98 22:48:24

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It would make more sense (with a view to minimising maintenance
overheads) to find an add-in for the source document application that
generates the postscript with links, bookmarks etc directly from the
source for conversion.
Depending on whether you use a DTP application like Quark, PageMaker,
FrameMaker or the ubiquitous MS Word there are add-ins that will spare
you this donkey work....

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Date: 15 January 1998 20:22
Subject: [PDF] FW: (PDF) Extracting hyperlinks

>
>
>>Can anyone help?
>>
>>We have postscript files that we are converting to pdf using Windows
>>environment and Adobe Acrobat.  Once converted to pdf, I add the
links by
>>using Acrobat Exchange.
>>
>>We have documents that are updated periodically with a higher Issue
number.
>>The pages are possibly the same.  Without having to link all of the
>>references again on an updated document, is there a way to extract
the old
>>links onto the new?
>>
>>Thanks in advance for your responses!
>>
>>Regina Nunn
>>Lucent Technologies
>>
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Andi, Alan and David,

in my opinion crop and fold marks belong to all plates too.

Where I disagree is, that black is the basement for corrections. Usually paper becomes stretched more after the first color printed, than after second, third or fourth.

So usually the crop marks of the first color (is usually any of the other process colors instead of black) are used to set up the plates and cylinders of following colors.

An easy trick to get a color for crop marks in four color printing is, to define a color 99/99/99/99 CMYK. But that does not work with spot colors.

Best regards

Tom

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>Hi Aandi,
>
>Crop marks and Registration marks belong on all plates to be exposed.
>
>David Asaph

I've always been told by printers that crop and fold marks should stay
resident on the black plate since it stays in position, and the other
colors are keyed to it. If the colors are misregistered by any amount, as
will happen throughout a long run on an old press, trims and folds will
always be made using the black marks.

Of course, I've always told those same printers that four color marks would
keep them honest when it comes to stretch on webs.

Alan Jameson
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>>Crackerjack, an Exchange 3.01 plug-in, allows you to print spot colors
>>today, plus allows control over separations, screening, scaling, fine
>>positioning, negative print, mirror print, etc.
>>
>
>Only if your RIP supports in-RIP separation and if that in-RIP separation
>works for spot colors as well. Some RIPs do offer in-RIP separation, but
>only for CMYK: spot colors then get mapped into CMYK.
>
>
>Olaf Druemmer
>


That's right and that's a headache. So, when and where is the plugins to fix
this problem!!!!

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I have created some large-format picture instructions in Corel Draw and =
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At Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:57:12 -0500 olaf druemmer <<callas@compuserve.com>
said

>>>>

<excerpt>>Crackerjack, an Exchange 3.01 plug-in, allows you to print spot
colors

>today, plus allows control over separations, screening, scaling, fine

>positioning, negative print, mirror print, etc.

>


Only if your RIP supports in-RIP separation and if that in-RIP separation 

works for spot colors as well. Some RIPs do offer in-RIP separation, but 

only for CMYK: spot colors then get mapped into CMYK.



</excerpt><<<<<<<<


Of course, if your RIP supports in-RIP separations and prints PDF
directly then you don't need CrackerJack or any other plug-in - just send
the file to the RIP :-)






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Martin Bailey

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I downloaded the Ambia Compose demo yesterday. After batch processing the whole directory of the project, all PDFs are now set to open the same way. I still have a problem:


The PDFs are set to all open in "Fit Page" mode. A few of the PDFs appear to not be in "Fit Page" mode, although the File>Document Info>Open option is already selected for "Fit Page." The window zooms into fit page appearance only after clicking the icon at the top of the Exchange window.


Does anyone know what is happening here?



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Jim,

Unless your print job includes the required DSC commands, you may also have
to specify the "Default Page Size" in the Distiller Job Options to get the
desired result.

HTH

Tom Thiersch


At 09:30 AM 1/16/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I have created some large-format picture instructions in Corel Draw and
created PostScript files using a printer driver with which I can specify 11
x 17" ledger-size paper. When I copy the PostScript file to a large format
printer, the printer picks from the 11 x 17" ledger-size paper tray and
prints the image correctly. But when I distill the same PostScript file and
print the resulting PDF file to the same printer, it picks 8.5 x 11"
letter-size paper and prints only the center of the image, even when I
explicitly specify the 11 x 17" ledger-size tray. Has anyone successfully
printed a large format page on a large format printer from Reader or
Exchange? Is there a trick to creating PDF files that will be printed on
large format printers, or do you have to trick Reader or Exchange to get
them to print on the correct size paper?
>--
>Jim Ramsay, Consultant         IBM Printing Systems Company
>Decision Consultants, Inc.     jramsay@csn.net
>(303) 924-5164                      nrramsay@us.ibm.net
>           http://www.csn.net/~jramsay

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If you place the new pages into the old linked document and rename it, the
links will be in the same place. (The reverse doesn't work.) So if links in
the new pages are in the same place on the page, you will maintain your
links. If they are nearly the same, you can do a bit of editing and save
most of your work.

Hope this helps.
Janice Prescott


>>
>>We have postscript files that we are converting to pdf using Windows
>>environment and Adobe Acrobat.  Once converted to pdf, I add the
links by using Acrobat Exchange.
>>
>>We have documents that are updated periodically with a higher Issue
number.
>>The pages are possibly the same.  Without having to link all of the
>>references again on an updated document, is there a way to extract
the old
>>links onto the new?
>>
>>Thanks in advance for your responses!
>>
>>Regina Nunn
>>Lucent Technologies
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Weird responses

Any RIP that supports in-RIP separations, but does not support spot color
separation is not PostScript Level 2 compliant.  Additionally, the fact
that spot colors get mapped into process colors must be okay with the
customer since it was not an objection in his purchase decision, and it may
be his preferred approach if he has a 4-color press.

Martin's point is true, but what is the implication.  What is the cost and
upheaval associated with getting a new RIP or major upgrade versus a $495
software package that works with your existing RIP?  Often Crackerjack pays
for itself after a single job.  By the way, Crackerjack is a cross vendor
solution.  It works with Harlequin RIPs as well.

Bob Greene
Lantana - makers of Crackerjack, a 1997 winner of the GATF InterTech
Technology, Publish Magazine's Impact Award and Seybold Editors Award.

web site - http://www.lantanarips.com

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> At Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:57:12 -0500 olaf druemmer <callas@compuserve.com> said
>>>>>
>>>Crackerjack, an Exchange 3.01 plug-in, allows you to print spot colors
>>>today, plus allows control over separations, screening, scaling, fine
>>>positioning, negative print, mirror print, etc.
>>>
>>
>>Only if your RIP supports in-RIP separation and if that in-RIP separation
>>works for spot colors as well. Some RIPs do offer in-RIP separation, but
>>only for CMYK: spot colors then get mapped into CMYK.
>>
>
>Of course, if your RIP supports in-RIP separations and prints PDF directly
>then you don't need CrackerJack or any other plug-in - just send the file
>to the RIP >
>Regards
>
>Martin Bailey
>Harlequin Ltd


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Jeremy Treister, jtreister@graphicmis.com wrote "...The PDFs are set to all
open in "Fit Page" mode. A few of the PDFs appear to not be in "Fit Page"
mode, although the File>Document Info>Open option is already selected for
"Fit Page." The window zooms into fit page appearance only after clicking
the icon at the top of the Exchange window..."  We've seen this, too.  It's
been awhile, but I think that after using the "save as" and optimizing the
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Janice,

You wrote:
"Is there any way to save the file that is already on screen? I can 
print it. It seems to me I should be able to save it."

If you let the whole book download, you can do a "Save Frame As" in
Netscape (Navigator Gold 3.0) and you will have the PDF book on your
local disk. If the PDF is still downloading, it does re-start to do a
"Saving Location." One way to address this is to put your book up in
chapters as well as whole book. The whole book version is easy for
hyperlinked TOC and Index, and the chapters are easier to grab and save.
One example of this approach is my book at the link below, where the
whole book is 4+ Mb, but the chapters are bitesized for byteserving.

HTH, Tony
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I, too, would be interested in hearing solutions to this challenge!  As
with Mr. Johnson, please contact me off-line if you're selling something.




duffj@document-solutions.com on 01/14/98 02:37:52 PM

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Folks:

Can anyone direct me towards a full-text search solution for PDF
collections that span multiple CD-ROMs (as in a juke), and/or multiple
volumes (as in network drives).

Those with something to SELL in this regard, please contact me OFF THE
LIST.  General info, reccomendations, etc. welcomed.

TIA.

--

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     I've begun experimenting with the "form" capability in Acrobat 3.0 and 
     noticed while I was trying to set the tab order of the fields that 
     Acrobat seems to only show numbers using two digits. For example my 
     112 field looks like "11" so does my 111, 113, 114-119 etc.

     Has anyone else experienced this or found a clever way to work with 
     this?  I may need some 250 fields before I'm done (yes its and 
     insurance form...how did you guess?).

     For those that haven't discovered this yet you can use the ctrl key 
     (windows) to highlight a certain field to resume setting the tab order 
     with, otherwise the first field you touch becomes the new #1 field.

     Thanks,

     Wes Bren

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Jim,
We regularly print 11x17 and larger (up to 24x36) without problem.  In
"Print Setup," select 11x17 (or larger), and then print.

Regards,

Bill Belk
Document Production Manager
IT Corporation

Jim Ramsay wrote:

>  I have created some large-format picture instructions in Corel Draw
> and created PostScript files using a printer driver with which I can
> specify 11 x 17" ledger-size paper. When I copy the PostScript file to
> a large format printer, the printer picks from the 11 x 17"
> ledger-size paper tray and prints the image correctly. But when I
> distill the same PostScript file and print the resulting PDF file to
> the same printer, it picks 8.5 x 11" letter-size paper and prints only
> the center of the image, even when I explicitly specify the 11 x 17"
> ledger-size tray. Has anyone successfully printed a large format page
> on a large format printer from Reader or Exchange? Is there a trick to
> creating PDF files that will be printed on large format printers, or
> do you have to trick Reader or Exchange to get them to print on the
> correct size paper?--
> Jim Ramsay, Consultant         IBM Printing Systems Company
> Decision Consultants, Inc.     jramsay@csn.net
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Jim,
<BR>We regularly print 11x17 and larger (up to 24x36) without problem.&nbsp;
In "Print Setup," select 11x17 (or larger), and then print.

<P>Regards,

<P>Bill Belk
<BR>Document Production Manager
<BR>IT Corporation

<P>Jim Ramsay wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>I have
created some large-format picture instructions in Corel Draw and created
PostScript files using a printer driver with which I can specify 11 x 17"
ledger-size paper. When I copy the PostScript file to a large format printer,
the printer picks from the 11 x 17" ledger-size paper tray and prints the
image correctly. But when I distill the same PostScript file and print
the resulting PDF file to the same printer, it picks 8.5 x 11" letter-size
paper and prints only the center of the image, even when I explicitly specify
the 11 x 17" ledger-size tray. Has anyone successfully printed a large
format page on a large format printer from Reader or Exchange? Is there
a trick to creating PDF files that will be printed on large format printers,
or do you have to trick Reader or Exchange to get them to print on the
correct size paper?</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>--</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>Jim Ramsay, Consultant&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
IBM Printing Systems Company</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>Decision Consultants, Inc.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<A HREF="mailto:jramsay@csn.net">jramsay@csn.net</A></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>(303) 924-5164&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<A HREF="mailto:nrramsay@us.ibm.net">nrramsay@us.ibm.net</A></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Bob,

>
>Any RIP that supports in-RIP separations, but does not support spot color
>separation is not PostScript Level 2 compliant.  Additionally, the fact
>that spot colors get mapped into process colors must be okay with the
>customer since it was not an objection in his purchase decision, and it may
>be his preferred approach if he has a 4-color press.
>

problem is at the time a customer purchased a RIP he maybe wasn't 
specific enough and possibly did not insist on verifying 100 % PostScript 
Level 2 compliance. Presales talk often tends to hide less than desirable 
characteristics.

Now such a customer starts using PDF, and possibly CrackerJack. You 
simply state that (more or less?) any (?) Level 2 RIP will work with 
CrackerJack. This may not be 100 % true - at least not from the point of 
view of the customer. 

It would help if _YOU_ would direct your customer to ask the right 
questions (and find the answers in his/her manual or from his dealer) and 
then decide if CrackerJack fits his/her workflow. When I visited your 
website  the first time to find out if CrackerJack could do me any good, 
I for example had to find out the hard way that not all fully PostScript 
Level 2 compliant RIPs support in-RIP separation and CrackerJack's 
separation functionality: my original Adobe PostScript Level 2 laser 
printer's RIP does not, my Distiller does not, ...

While this is definitely not your fault, you would have made the life of 
some people easier if you had pointed this out in the first place - I 
mean you knew it, didn't you?

Regards,

Olaf Druemmer



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>
>An easy trick to get a color for crop marks in four color printing is, to 
>define a color 99/99/99/99 CMYK. But that does not work with spot colors.
>

A color with the name 'All' gets printed on al plates.

Olaf Druemmer



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On Sat, Jan 17, 1998 at 06:46:37PM -0500, olaf druemmer wrote:

> >An easy trick to get a color for crop marks in four color printing is, to 
> >define a color 99/99/99/99 CMYK. But that does not work with spot colors.

Why not 100/100/100/100. It has worked for me for years!

> A color with the name 'All' gets printed on al plates.

Is this a PSL2 in-RIP thing? Lots of host-based seps facilities used to honor
"Registration", but as far as I know, that was generations ago... :-)

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This question probably has many answers, but here are a few simple ones:

One example of a simple solution to this problem is suggested by the
5-CD collection of the Office of Technology Assessment Legacy Project.
Each CD contains an index for the contents on that CD, which makes each
disk self-supporting and usable by the included Acrobat Reader w/ Search
s/w.

To make all five disks searchable, you can either copy all five CD's to
your hard drive, or just install a stack of CD drives and load all the
discs. Pick your favorite medium. (Just a year or two ago a ton of
stacked CD-drives on a Novell server was a great idea, but now 233 Mhz
Pentium Pro PC's w/ huge magnetic drives are dirt cheap!)

Once the collection is online, you simply choose all the various
Indexes, and Acrobat Search will employ them to search all your content.

The original OTA Legacy CD edition promises a unified index for all
CD's, which would be at
http://www.wws.princeton.edu/~ota/html2/help.html.

This searchable collection, published simultaneously on CD and Web, was
created through scanning and Acrobat Capture.

HTH, Tony
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>> A color with the name 'All' gets printed on al plates.
>
>Is this a PSL2 in-RIP thing? Lots of host-based seps facilities used to honor
>"Registration", but as far as I know, that was generations ago... :-)
>
It is the reserved name for a color space, and it is part of the 
PostScript Level 2 spec. Should work always.

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>

Hi,

The best way to get the cropmarks on all plates to be printed is by defining the cropmarks with "setseparation gray" or in simple terms Registration Color, that is what I do.

David Asaph

> An easy trick to get a color for crop marks in four color printing is, to define a color 99/99/99/99 CMYK. But that does not work with spot colors.
>
> Best regards
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> Tom
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> ----------
> Von:  Alan Jameson[SMTP:ajameson@bearrock.com]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 1998 21:42
> An:  pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com
> Betreff:   Re: [PDF-PP-L] What plates for crop marks
>
> >Hi Aandi,
> >
> >Crop marks and Registration marks belong on all plates to be exposed.
> >
> >David Asaph
>
> I've always been told by printers that crop and fold marks should stay
> resident on the black plate since it stays in position, and the other
> colors are keyed to it. If the colors are misregistered by any amount, as
> will happen throughout a long run on an old press, trims and folds will
> always be made using the black marks.
>
> Of course, I've always told those same printers that four color marks would
> keep them honest when it comes to stretch on webs.
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From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 01/19/98 10:47 AM

What printer drivers are you using under Win '95. Are they PCL, clone PCL,
PostScript or clone PostScript?

Particularly if they are in the PostScript world with a clone PostScript
printer that is supposed to "Sniff" the different print streams, you may
need to increase job timeouts. Also on the Distiller end, make sure that
the PostScript printer driver you use is from Adobe and is 4.2.3 (e.g., not
a Lexmark Optra driver), and is set to 'greatest PostScript compatibility'.
There are other postings on this list and on Blueworld that discuss in
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Jan,

can you describe you test form or can you at least mail me the smallest PDF file directly.

Thank you and best wishes from Germany.

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If we have our pdf optimized and set up for page-at-a-time, can we open
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I think I've seen this topic before but have deleted it.  Does anyone
have any experience converting TIFF to PDF.  We have a large volume of
TIFF files which need to be put together into a logical PDF file with
chapters and other toc information.  Are there any good tools which
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For occaisional small jobs, use the Capture plugin that comes with Acro Exchange. Otherwise, but Acrobat Capture. This helps streamline and automate the process.

 

At 12:50 PM 1/19/98 -0500, you wrote:

>

>I think I've seen this topic before but have deleted it.  Does anyone

>have any experience converting TIFF to PDF.  We have a large volume of

>TIFF files which need to be put together into a logical PDF file with

>chapters and other toc information.  Are there any good tools which

>would help us?

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>Sent: 	Monday, January 19, 1998 10:20 AM
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>Regina K (Regina); 'ADA BOWEN'; 'Bill Gerrard'; 'bnvab@netunlimited.net';
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>
>
>Subject:  charges
>
>Letter from classmate in Phila.>
>************************************
>>Your local telephone company has filed a proposal with the FCC to impose
>>per minute charges for your internet service.  They contend that your usage
>>has or will hinder the operation of the telephone network.  E-mail, in our
>>opinion, will diminish if users were required to pay additional per minute
>>charges.  The FCC has created an email box for your comments, responses
>>must be received by February 13, 98.
>>
>>Send your comment to "isp@fcc.gov" and tell them what you think.  Every
>>phone company is in on this one. and they are trying to snead it in just
>>under the wire for litigation.  Let everyone you know hear about this one. 
>>Get e-mail address to everyone you can think of.
>>
>>This is really important.  If we have to pay for e-mail, the cost is going
>>to skyrocket.  It's about the only thing now that is cost-effective.
>>
>>Please make your opinions known to the FCC
>
>
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The information in the note from "Bowen, James" is INCORRECT.

Refer to the FCC's page at:

  http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Factsheets/ispfact.html

Note the 2nd paragraph (the one in RED):

"Please Note: There is no open comment period in this proceeding. If you
have recently seen a message on the Internet stating that in response to a
request from local telephone companies, the FCC is requesting comments to
<isp@fcc.gov> by February 1998, be aware that this information is inaccurate. "

FYI

Tom Thiersch

At 11:31 AM 1/19/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
>
>>----------
>>From: 	Bowen, James (James)** CTR **
>>Sent: 	Monday, January 19, 1998 10:20 AM
>>To: 	Giff, Lauren Azevedo (Lauren); Currin, James Henry, JR (Henry); Nunn,
>>Regina K (Regina); 'ADA BOWEN'; 'Bill Gerrard'; 'bnvab@netunlimited.net';
>>'Jennifer Bowen'; 'kenny'; 'Larry Johnson'; 'Lisa Bennett'; 'PMAXWE@aol.com';
>>'Rip'; 'William Bennett'; 'Deonna'
>>Subject: 	FW: charges
>>
>>
>>
>>Subject:  charges
>>
>>Letter from classmate in Phila.>
>>************************************
>>>Your local telephone company has filed a proposal with the FCC to impose
>>>per minute charges for your internet service.  They contend that your usage
>>>has or will hinder the operation of the telephone network.  E-mail, in our
>>>opinion, will diminish if users were required to pay additional per minute
>>>charges.  The FCC has created an email box for your comments, responses
>>>must be received by February 13, 98.
>>>
>>>Send your comment to "isp@fcc.gov" and tell them what you think.  Every
>>>phone company is in on this one. and they are trying to snead it in just
>>>under the wire for litigation.  Let everyone you know hear about this one. 
>>>Get e-mail address to everyone you can think of.
>>>
>>>This is really important.  If we have to pay for e-mail, the cost is going
>>>to skyrocket.  It's about the only thing now that is cost-effective.
>>>
>>>Please make your opinions known to the FCC
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>Your local telephone company has filed a proposal with the FCC to impose
>>per minute charges for your internet service. ...
>>
>>Send your comment to "isp@fcc.gov" and tell them what you think. ...

DO NOT DO THIS.  This is an "urban legend" that resurfaces a couple of times
a year.  For the truth about this situation (which I do recommend reading),
see
	http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Factsheets/ispfact.html

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>>Your local telephone company has filed a proposal with the FCC to impose
>>per minute charges for your internet service. ...
>>
>>Send your comment to "isp@fcc.gov" and tell them what you think. ...

DO NOT DO THIS.  This is an "urban legend" that resurfaces a couple of times
a year.  For the truth about this situation (which I do recommend reading),
see
	http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Factsheets/ispfact.html

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I recently switched from Windows NT to Windows 95, and am trying to
figure out the various PostScript printer driver issues.
Following the advice of this list, I went to the Adobe site and
downloaded the latest (4.2.3) PostScript printer driver and the latest
version of ADISTILL.PPD for good measure. I followed the readme
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Now when I go to Settings->Printers I show the Adobe PS 4.2.3 printer
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and DRV files.
However, my Distiller Assistant properties showed it was the using the
Apple 380 PPD and the much-maligned PSCRIPT.DRV. So I reinstalled
Distiller Assistant. Now when I click on the About... button on the
printer properties, it shows ADOBEPS4.DRV and ADISTILL.PPD.
BUT when I print  using Distiller Assistant, then check the Document
Info field on the PDF, it shows PSCRIPT.DRV Version 4.0 as the "Creator"
of the document. Furthermore, if I print to the Adobe 4.2.3 printer on
the DISTASST.PS port, the "Creator" field is empty.
My first question, therefore, is "What's up with Distiller Assistant?"
And, since I anticipate some of you may advise against using Distiller
Assistant, my second question is, "When I print to file using the Adobe
PS 4.2.3, do I have to explicitly select the Print to file button?"
Thanks,
Ron Coulter
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Thank you very much for this information.  You've been very helpful!

Regina Nunn

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>
>>>Your local telephone company has filed a proposal with the FCC to impose
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>>>
>>>Send your comment to "isp@fcc.gov" and tell them what you think. ...
>
>DO NOT DO THIS.  This is an "urban legend" that resurfaces a couple of times
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>see
>	http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Factsheets/ispfact.html
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From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 01/19/98 03:02 PM

One small point in answer to the questions here: if you bypass Distiller
Assistant then whatever PostScript print driver is used to create files
from Distiller can be set to File (rather than to LPT1) in Control Panel.




Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com

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I recently switched from Windows NT to Windows 95, and am trying to
figure out the various PostScript printer driver issues.
Following the advice of this list, I went to the Adobe site and
downloaded the latest (4.2.3) PostScript printer driver and the latest
version of ADISTILL.PPD for good measure. I followed the readme
instructions and set everything up.
Now when I go to Settings->Printers I show the Adobe PS 4.2.3 printer
driver and when I check its properties I see it's using the current PPD
and DRV files.
However, my Distiller Assistant properties showed it was the using the
Apple 380 PPD and the much-maligned PSCRIPT.DRV. So I reinstalled
Distiller Assistant. Now when I click on the About... button on the
printer properties, it shows ADOBEPS4.DRV and ADISTILL.PPD.
BUT when I print  using Distiller Assistant, then check the Document
Info field on the PDF, it shows PSCRIPT.DRV Version 4.0 as the "Creator"
of the document. Furthermore, if I print to the Adobe 4.2.3 printer on
the DISTASST.PS port, the "Creator" field is empty.
My first question, therefore, is "What's up with Distiller Assistant?"
And, since I anticipate some of you may advise against using Distiller
Assistant, my second question is, "When I print to file using the Adobe
PS 4.2.3, do I have to explicitly select the Print to file button?"
Thanks,
Ron Coulter
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OK, we've (unfortunately) had our 'Urban Legend of the Day/Week/Month/Year'
posting now, so let's allow this thread to die quickly and get back to
substantive postings.

If in the future anyone feels compelled to *warn* the entire list about
some allegedly pending crisis or disaster, please check with the listowner
(me) before sharing it with some 1600+ people. The vast majority of these
are well-known hoaxes. Luckily, we haven't had many forwarded to the PDF
list.

tks ~ Kurt
===

>Thank you very much for this information.  You've been very helpful!

>>DO NOT DO THIS.  This is an "urban legend" that resurfaces a couple of times
>>a year.  For the truth about this situation (which I do recommend reading),
>>see
>>	http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Factsheets/ispfact.html

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Ignoring any extra functionality offered by plug-ins (I think that
there is one by Merlin Systems in the UK?) the only way to open at
other than page 1 is using a link from a web page to an anchor (named
destination in Acrobat terminology) within your pdf document i.e of
the form filename.pdf#named_destination.

This does imply that the Acrobat file contains named destinations
before distilling. This can be done either manually, automatically
using a postscript routine or within the source application in which
the document was created e.g. MS Word.

I can offer some advice on the Word route if it is of interest.
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Date: 19 January 1998 18:52
Subject: [PDF] Can an optimized PDF be opened at page other than 1


>
>If we have our pdf optimized and set up for page-at-a-time, can we
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Capture 2.0 will do the batch conversion of Tif to PDF.  And I've seen
something on this list about a way to join several PDF documents into one,
but since I've never had the need to use this, I'm sorry but I don't have
that information.




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I think I've seen this topic before but have deleted it.  Does anyone
have any experience converting TIFF to PDF.  We have a large volume of
TIFF files which need to be put together into a logical PDF file with
chapters and other toc information.  Are there any good tools which
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Sue:

Capture does it all!  Configure the document assembly with a right-click
on the input folder.  You have to pay attention to file naming
conventions, Capture is kinda picky.  I suggest you name them as
follows:

FILE_001.tif
FILE_002.tif
...and so on....
will make a PDF (or ACD) named "FILE.PDF"

WARNING:  Do NOT attempt to Capture more than 100 pages into a single
document.  Ugly crashes and other unpleasantries will result.

Good luck!  And.... subscribe to the CAPTURE list (also run by the A-1
folks at Emerge) for more information.

sgililland@nexstar.com wrote:
> 
> Capture 2.0 will do the batch conversion of Tif to PDF.  And I've seen
> something on this list about a way to join several PDF documents into one,
> but since I've never had the need to use this, I'm sorry but I don't have
> that information.
> 

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At 6:45 PM -0500 1/17/98, olaf druemmer wrote:
>It would help if _YOU_ would direct your customer to ask the right
>questions (and find the answers in his/her manual or from his dealer) and
>then decide if CrackerJack fits his/her workflow. When I visited your
>website  the first time to find out if CrackerJack could do me any good,
>I for example had to find out the hard way that not all fully PostScript
>Level 2 compliant RIPs support in-RIP separation and CrackerJack's
>separation functionality: my original Adobe PostScript Level 2 laser
>printer's RIP does not, my Distiller does not, ...

Olaf

I'm sorry that you missed it, but that information is on our web site.  It
is under frequently asked questions (FAQs).  Additionally, it is included
in the workflow guide which is included in the free downloadable demo.

You are not alone.  In their eagerness, lots of people don't read the
information provided.  But I don't know of a single case, where a purchaser
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Yes, 

Capture does batch processing with the option to store several TIFF files into one single PDF document, depending on name root or users multi selected files. There's a special list for Caputure 'capture@lists.pdfzone.com'.

But there is no way in telling Capture to make a TOC or so. For that purposes you need Ambia's Exchange Plug-In Compose. (WWW.ambia.com)

Best wishes from Germany

Tom


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Capture 2.0 will do the batch conversion of Tif to PDF.  And I've seen
something on this list about a way to join several PDF documents into one,
but since I've never had the need to use this, I'm sorry but I don't have
that information.




quintonk@oclc.org on 01/19/98 09:50:38 AM

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I hope this isn't regarded as off-topic or too esoteric for this list. I'm
trying to understand the implications of some work being considered on PDF
files.

I'd very much appreciate your comments if you write plugins or applications
which amend PDF files in any way. Publically available applications/plugins
are my prime focus, simply because of the number of people who would use
them, but I'm also interested in in-house solutions. If these are issues
that you do not want to discuss in public, please feel free to mail me
directly.

* Does your application/plugin change any objects in a PDF file and then
re-save the file, or save it under a new name?

* If so, do you retain the same object and generation numbers?

* If you don't (i.e. if you change the numbers) do you check through every
other object in the file to ensure that any indirect references to the
object you've altered are updated?

To give you an example, I might have created a whole new object hierarchy
of private data rooted, say, in the Catalog. In one of the objects in my
hierarchy I might have an indirect reference to the Page object for page 1
in the file. if your application amends that Page object and updates its
object or generation number, will the indirect reference in my private
hierachy be amended to point at the new Page object, or will it be left
pointing at the old one (which may have potentially been marked as free)?

Thank you for your help on this one!



Regards

Martin Bailey

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Hi -

If there is an archive I can search, then please refer me there,
otherwise, here's the question...


PROBLEM:  Distilling MS WORD file to PDF results in color loss
(Specifically, loss of red)

Platform:  Windows '95, Distiller 3.01, printing to postscript on HP 5
si mx.

Our printing department is being asked to print a department's "home
grown" newsletter on one of their fancy color printers.  Because they
are MAC based, and their WORD version "walks" the text, I help them by
distilling it to PDF so it can print.  It's worked in the past, but this
time there's too much color loss.  For example, red lettering in the
text and the bullets turns black.

Any easy fix on this?  I believe the text is being prepared in either
Win 6.0 on 3.1, or 7 on Win '95.

thx -

Rebecca Callaway
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>
>
>PROBLEM:  Distilling MS WORD file to PDF results in color loss
>(Specifically, loss of red)
>
>Platform:  Windows '95, Distiller 3.01, printing to postscript on HP 5
>si mx.
>

As you have selected the HP as your current printer, and I think it is a 
b/w printer the printer driver may convert any color into gray scale.

This won't happen though, if you selected the Distiller PPD in your print 
setup.


Just a guess.


Olaf Druemmer



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Rebecca,



There is an option in MS Word which optimizes the ps-code (no color - less
data, where a b/w printer cant print color anyway). Just deselect this
Option and color should remain.



Regards,

     Laura Dietz

     (Mannesmann Arcor)



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Dear Sirs,
we have a very important question to post.
We need to do the following job:
to produce PDF file with all the fonts embedded being sure that this as
been done via .LOG file.
When we try to distill with Distiller 3.01/3.02 both Mac and Win a PS/EPS
file which has not the fonts embedded using a workstation on which some of
the fonts used in the document are missing, we expect to obtain a .LOG file
with an error like FONT XXX MISSING, SUBSTITUTING WITH COURIER...
Instead of that, Acrobat Distiller produces a PDF file using MM
substitution fonts (AdobeSans etc....).
At this point, we have no report from Distiller regarding the fact that the
produced PDF file has all the fonts embedded.
We appreciate the substitution mechanism done by Acrobat Exchange/Reader,
but it is a problem if this is done by Distiller without communicating this
operation to the user.
Does anybody knows how can we "trap" Distiller in order to know exactly if
a font substitution has been done?
Thanking in advance.

Bye.

LinkService Srl
Massimo Pioli

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Is anyone using the current version of Signet? Or any other PDF security
product for that matter? There are not many solutions out in the
marketplace. I'm trying to keep my clients advised of current security
products and features. There are only two that I am aware of: Signet and
FileOpen.


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Subject: Re: [PDF] Font substitution with Distiller 3.01, 3.02 Mac/Win
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>We need to do the following job:
>to produce PDF file with all the fonts embedded being sure that this as
>been done via .LOG file.
>When we try to distill with Distiller 3.01/3.02 both Mac and Win a PS/EPS
>file which has not the fonts embedded using a workstation on which some of
>the fonts used in the document are missing, we expect to obtain a .LOG file
>with an error like FONT XXX MISSING, SUBSTITUTING WITH COURIER...
>Instead of that, Acrobat Distiller produces a PDF file using MM
>substitution fonts (AdobeSans etc....).
>At this point, we have no report from Distiller regarding the fact that the
>produced PDF file has all the fonts embedded.
>We appreciate the substitution mechanism done by Acrobat Exchange/Reader,
>but it is a problem if this is done by Distiller without communicating this
>operation to the user.
This is not the way Distiller works.
If you want to be sure that your fonts will be embedded in the resulting 
PDF you should check your PostScript file to have them inside.

Distiller infact doesn't do any substitution: if a font is missing from 
the PS code, it simply does nothing even if you selected the "embed all 
fonts" option.
It is Exchange (or Reader) that does the substitution runtime when the 
font is not embedded in the PDF *and* is not system installed in the 
target computer.
In effect if your target PC has all the right fonts installed at system 
level no substitutions (and even no extractions from the embedded set) 
are played as Exchange uses them.

My suggestion is to FlighCheck the PS file before distilling.

Greetings,
Andrea Valle
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>Is anyone using the current version of Signet? Or any other PDF security
>product for that matter? There are not many solutions out in the
>marketplace. I'm trying to keep my clients advised of current security
>products and features. There are only two that I am aware of: Signet and
>FileOpen.
You've forgotten "Secure-it".
It gives security to PDF similar to Signet, but with a complete different 
approach: it uses a public-private key system in which the public key is 
embedded in the PDF file by means of an "Author" plug-in, while the 
private key is hardcoded in the "Client" plug-in (even with an hard key).
This way, you can publish (on CD Rom and on-line web) the same secured 
file to give different permissions to different users.
It is multiplatform (Mac & Win, soon Unix) and it works on the standard 
Print-Edit-Copy-Note permissions plus an original "Save-as" permission.

It's now in Beta (2) and it will be released in mid February.
You can access the Beta test program downloading the two part plug-in 
from:

http://www.datanet.it/Acrobat.htm

Greetings,
Andrea
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What's your pricing model going to be?

> ----------
> From: 	Andrea Valle
> Sent: 	Wednesday, January 21, 1998 10:19 AM
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> Subject: 	Re: [PDF] Signet
> 
> 
> >Is anyone using the current version of Signet? Or any other PDF
> security
> >product for that matter? There are not many solutions out in the
> >marketplace. I'm trying to keep my clients advised of current
> security
> >products and features. There are only two that I am aware of: Signet
> and
> >FileOpen.
> You've forgotten "Secure-it".
> It gives security to PDF similar to Signet, but with a complete
> different 
> approach: it uses a public-private key system in which the public key
> is 
> embedded in the PDF file by means of an "Author" plug-in, while the 
> private key is hardcoded in the "Client" plug-in (even with an hard
> key).
> This way, you can publish (on CD Rom and on-line web) the same secured
> 
> file to give different permissions to different users.
> It is multiplatform (Mac & Win, soon Unix) and it works on the
> standard 
> Print-Edit-Copy-Note permissions plus an original "Save-as"
> permission.
> 
> It's now in Beta (2) and it will be released in mid February.
> You can access the Beta test program downloading the two part plug-in 
> from:
> 
> http://www.datanet.it/Acrobat.htm
> 
> Greetings,
> Andrea
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I am sorry I did not send the last message directly to the vendor. They
can contact me directly with this info.


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Bound giorno Massimo,

I think the only way to get a message from Distiller if fonts are missing is, to write a type of PostScript, to be during initialization of Distiller, that an output is generated.

Probably the much easier way is to configure Distiller correctly:

1.)  Embed all fonts
2.)  Subsets below 1%
3.)  Link to the font directory, where the font resides

Be aware that the standard PostScript fonts (Helvetica, Times and so one) are never embeded.

Best wishes from Germany.

Tom


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Dear Sirs,
we have a very important question to post.
We need to do the following job:
to produce PDF file with all the fonts embedded being sure that this as
been done via .LOG file.
When we try to distill with Distiller 3.01/3.02 both Mac and Win a PS/EPS
file which has not the fonts embedded using a workstation on which some of
the fonts used in the document are missing, we expect to obtain a .LOG file
with an error like FONT XXX MISSING, SUBSTITUTING WITH COURIER...
Instead of that, Acrobat Distiller produces a PDF file using MM
substitution fonts (AdobeSans etc....).
At this point, we have no report from Distiller regarding the fact that the
produced PDF file has all the fonts embedded.
We appreciate the substitution mechanism done by Acrobat Exchange/Reader,
but it is a problem if this is done by Distiller without communicating this
operation to the user.
Does anybody knows how can we "trap" Distiller in order to know exactly if
a font substitution has been done?
Thanking in advance.

Bye.

LinkService Srl
Massimo Pioli

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Laura,

in your case I suppose, only at the machine Distiller is running. The only reason to install ATM was, to install you PostScript font.

Regards

Tom



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Mark -

PurePDF covered content vending/security products
in the December issue.  You can still get and read
comparisons of Signet, FileOpen and SoftLock...
go to Other Data Points, then to the "Plug Me In" article.
Features and pricing for the products are there.
http://www.purepdf.com

BTW, this month's issue (1/19/98) compares
Illustrator and PitStop for editing PDF files on the
run.  Tony McKinley is a guest columnist and
some new user stories are featured in the Acrobat
in Action section (including some list members'
user reports).

-Deidre
.......................................
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PurePDF:  The Acrobat Info Source on the Web
http://www.purepdf.com
.......................................

Czajka, Mark wrote:

> Is anyone using the current version of Signet? Or any other PDF security
> product for that matter? There are not many solutions out in the
> marketplace. I'm trying to keep my clients advised of current security
> products and features. There are only two that I am aware of: Signet and
> FileOpen.



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Hello,

I have a very basic question, but I haven't had a need until recently to
try this out. Is it not possible to send pdf files as attachments to
e-mail?  I'm using Netscape as the browser at both ends, but I can't
find the file.  It is recognized as a pdf file and the Reader is opened
but no file.  What am I doing wrong?  

Thanks in advance,

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Andrea Valle wrote:
> 
> >We need to do the following job:
> >to produce PDF file with all the fonts embedded being sure that this as
> >been done via .LOG file.
> >When we try to distill with Distiller 3.01/3.02 both Mac and Win a PS/EPS
> >file which has not the fonts embedded using a workstation on which some of
> >the fonts used in the document are missing, we expect to obtain a .LOG file
> >with an error like FONT XXX MISSING, SUBSTITUTING WITH COURIER...
> 
> Distiller infact doesn't do any substitution: if a font is missing from
> the PS code, it simply does nothing even if you selected the "embed all
> fonts" option.

No, Andrea, I think there is more to it than that.  I just distilled this
PostScript file:

  %!PS
  /Americana findfont 12 scalefont setfont
  50 50 moveto (Hello, world.) show
  showpage
  %%EOF

and no log file was created, as you say.  Americana is an Adobe face, but is not
installed on my system.  AdobeSerifMM gets substituted in the Reader, and has
been adjusted to approximate the Americana face.

However, if I distill this file:

  %!PS
  /FuturaBT-Medium findfont 12 scalefont setfont
  50 50 moveto (Hello, world.) show
  showpage
  %%EOF

then I get the following .log file:

  FuturaBT-Medium not found, using Courier.

This behavior is unaffected by the "Embed All Fonts" setting.  Now, certainly no
one can accuse me of having code in the PostScript file to cause this different
behavior for the two different fonts.  8^)

My theory is that Distiller must (?) have an internal table of Adobe Type 1
fonts and metrics, so that it can accurately substitute multiple masters and
maintain the same visual characteristics.  However, if a PostScript file calls a
font from another foundry (such as Bitstream, above), Distiller punts and
substitutes Courier, and makes a .log entry to tell you about it.  In fact, the
same behavior is given if I call a "bogus" font name like
/BetChaCantFindThisOne, which tends to support my "internal table" theory.

Now, as Thomas Mueller suggested, one could use PostScript code to detect
whether Distiller has the font available to embed or is just "pretending", and
plans to substitute a multiple master.  Specifically, the place to start is by
looking at the 'findfont' function, about which the PostScript Language
Reference Manual states:

  "If [the named font] is not found, findfont takes an action that
  varies according to the environment in which the PostScript
  interpreter is running.  In some environments, findfont may
  attempt to read a font definition from a file and to execute a
  definefont for that font.  In other environments, findfont
  substitutes a default font or executes the error invalidfont.

  "findfont is not actually a PostScript operator but a built-in
  procedure.  It may be redefined by a PostScript program that
  required different strategies for finding fonts."

I suspect that within Distiller, findfont is implemented such that when a font
is not found, it will look up the font metrics in the internal table I have
dreamed into existence, and will substitute a multiple master with similar
metrics.  It stands to reason that that behavior could be modified, and in fact
such modifications are perfectly legitimate, according to the above Adobe spec.

I don't have time to research the particulars of doing that, but this discussion
may rouse any silent Adobe experts on the topic.

Cory Snavely
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Situation:
 
 Software:  Centura  running on Windows NT 
 User press F1 which opens a specific pdf file for that window.
 
 Problem:
 
 The application has over 120 windows which creates alot of overhead
 and
 maintenance of pdf files.
 
Question:

 Does anyone know if I can have Centura call one pdf and pass a variable
 which will open the pdf to a specific page or section??  Can someone
 let
 me know if this can be done and where I can find the information on
 this?
 
 Thanks in advance for your help.
 
 jim

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Hi
I am having difficulty getting a multiline text field to print on
different machines(windows and mac). It works on some but not others.  I
am using times roman, it shows on the screen. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Steve Adler
NVRHS District
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Steve,

how were the multiline fields created? Are they big enough to contain
several lines? Are they set to be printable?

There can be so many different reasons why fields do not print.


Max Wyss
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>Hi
>I am having difficulty getting a multiline text field to print on
>different machines(windows and mac). It works on some but not others.  I
>am using times roman, it shows on the screen. Any thoughts?
>Thanks
>Steve Adler
>NVRHS District
>Old Tappan, NJ
>201-784-1600 x4591
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Cheryl, 

I send pdfs as e-mail attachments all the time. Just attach it as you would
any other file. I don't use Netscape as an e-mail client much, but I assume
it handles attachments.

 Only problem I ever had was when a recipient had a version 2.1 Reader and
we sent out a version 3.01 file. In fact, I think she got a blank screen
too. Maybe that's the problem?

Janice

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Subject: [PDF] Sending PDF files via e-mail

Hello,

I have a very basic question, but I haven't had a need until recently to
try this out. Is it not possible to send pdf files as attachments to
e-mail?  I'm using Netscape as the browser at both ends, but I can't
find the file.  It is recognized as a pdf file and the Reader is opened
but no file.  What am I doing wrong?  

Thanks in advance,

Cheryl Brantley

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         Reply to:   Re: [PDF] text field printing problems
Max Wyss wrote:
>
>Steve,
>
>how were the multiline fields created? Are they big enough to contain
>several lines? Are they set to be printable?
>
>There can be so many different reasons why fields do not print.
>
>
>>Hi
>>I am having difficulty getting a multiline text field to print on
>>different machines(windows and mac). It works on some but not others.  I
>>am using times roman, it shows on the screen. Any thoughts?

Don't forget the silliest reason of all:  not exiting out of the field before trying to print.
Been there, done that.

Dennis Walker                  dennisw@inpractice.net
EVP/Production Mgr.            435-647-9910 x262 voice
InPractice Publications, Inc.  435-647-5927 fax


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Andrea,

>Distiller infact doesn't do any substitution: if a font is missing from 
>the PS code, it simply does nothing even if you selected the "embed all 
>fonts" option.

you are not 100% correct. Distiller looks into superatm.db if it can't 
find a needed font otherwise. If data about a font (that is not 
available) is found in superatm.db, Distiller won't isssue a 'Missing 
font' log file message. If the font can't be found there as well (because 
it is not there, or because superatm.db is not there) it will issue a 
Missing fonts message in the log file, but generate a PDF file anyway - 
with a very familiar characteristic ... you guess it? Yes, good old 
Courier font...

>
>My suggestion is to FlighCheck the PS file before distilling.
>

Once Distiller is set up accordingly, you can use Distiller as a kind of 
preflighting tool (and in additon to that add more preflighting to the 
PDF file afterwards, by using one of the two currently available PDF 
preflighting tools, pdfInspektor from callas software (www.callas.de) or 
CheckUp from EnFocus (www.enfocus.com).

Olaf Druemmer



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Hi Massimo!

simply throw away the file 'superatm.db'.

My advice: anybody doing prepress with PDF should throw away superatm.db. 
You will then see the 'Missing fonts' message in the .log file.

Another advice: if you want to play it bullet proof when using Distiller 
do not have any font (except those needed for the OS) active in one way 
(system) or the other (ATM) on that machine. Also throw away anything 
from your Acrobat installation. At least on the Mac nothing is needed but 
the Distiller application itself. 

Last advice for today: Always use PostScript files with all fonts 
embedded. Always embed fonts on the workstation where (and at the same 
time when) PostScript file was created. 

This is the only approach to play it safe. Otherwise very weird things 
can happen...


Olaf Druemmer


PS Say hello for me to Vainer Gilioli!


>
>
>Dear Sirs,
>we have a very important question to post.
>We need to do the following job:
>to produce PDF file with all the fonts embedded being sure that this as
>been done via .LOG file.
>When we try to distill with Distiller 3.01/3.02 both Mac and Win a PS/EPS
>file which has not the fonts embedded using a workstation on which some of
>the fonts used in the document are missing, we expect to obtain a .LOG file
>with an error like FONT XXX MISSING, SUBSTITUTING WITH COURIER...
>Instead of that, Acrobat Distiller produces a PDF file using MM
>substitution fonts (AdobeSans etc....).
>At this point, we have no report from Distiller regarding the fact that the
>produced PDF file has all the fonts embedded.
>We appreciate the substitution mechanism done by Acrobat Exchange/Reader,
>but it is a problem if this is done by Distiller without communicating this
>operation to the user.
>Does anybody knows how can we "trap" Distiller in order to know exactly if
>a font substitution has been done?
>Thanking in advance.
>
>Bye.
>
>LinkService Srl
>Massimo Pioli



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Our company sends PDF documents to our sales force. Occasionally a sales
person will call and say they can't print a document. They get an "out
of memory", error message.
One of the files they have trouble with is only three pages long and is
not graphic heavy. 
The file prints fine on my machine using same equipment as the sales
force.If anyone has ideas, I could use the help. If anyone would care to
have one of the problem files emailed to them for experiementation,
email me and I'll sure send it.
Here are the stats on our equipment.
PC: Dell latitude xpi 133 with 16M ram
Printer: Deskjet 340
OS: Windows 95
average free hard disk space: 200M
Programs open at time of trouble: Just Reader
Acro version: Reader 2.1
File created from Word and Excel 7.0 printed to Distiller 3.0 set on 2.1
compatibility.

Thanks,
Randy Hoggard
INSIGHT System Analyst
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Jennifer,

on a Windows 95 system, I found superatm.db in a subdir of my Illustrator directory. Are you really sure that this file effects Distiller?

Best wishes from Germany.

Tom


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Cory and others,

Hey you, get away from that curtain!    ; )

You guessed it Distiller does have a db file which is looks up Adobe Type 1
font metrics and uses these metrics and the AdobeSans/Serif MM font for
substitution.  
. . . 

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Hi Massimo!

simply throw away the file 'superatm.db'.

My advice: anybody doing prepress with PDF should throw away superatm.db. 
You will then see the 'Missing fonts' message in the .log file.

Another advice: if you want to play it bullet proof when using Distiller 
do not have any font (except those needed for the OS) active in one way 
(system) or the other (ATM) on that machine. Also throw away anything 
from your Acrobat installation. At least on the Mac nothing is needed but 
the Distiller application itself. 

Last advice for today: Always use PostScript files with all fonts 
embedded. Always embed fonts on the workstation where (and at the same 
time when) PostScript file was created. 

This is the only approach to play it safe. Otherwise very weird things 
can happen...


Olaf Druemmer


PS Say hello for me to Vainer Gilioli!


>
>
>Dear Sirs,
>we have a very important question to post.
>We need to do the following job:
>to produce PDF file with all the fonts embedded being sure that this as
>been done via .LOG file.
>When we try to distill with Distiller 3.01/3.02 both Mac and Win a PS/EPS
>file which has not the fonts embedded using a workstation on which some of
>the fonts used in the document are missing, we expect to obtain a .LOG file
>with an error like FONT XXX MISSING, SUBSTITUTING WITH COURIER...
>Instead of that, Acrobat Distiller produces a PDF file using MM
>substitution fonts (AdobeSans etc....).
>At this point, we have no report from Distiller regarding the fact that the
>produced PDF file has all the fonts embedded.
>We appreciate the substitution mechanism done by Acrobat Exchange/Reader,
>but it is a problem if this is done by Distiller without communicating this
>operation to the user.
>Does anybody knows how can we "trap" Distiller in order to know exactly if
>a font substitution has been done?
>Thanking in advance.
>
>Bye.
>
>LinkService Srl
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Andrea,

>Distiller infact doesn't do any substitution: if a font is missing from 
>the PS code, it simply does nothing even if you selected the "embed all 
>fonts" option.

you are not 100% correct. Distiller looks into superatm.db if it can't 
find a needed font otherwise. If data about a font (that is not 
available) is found in superatm.db, Distiller won't isssue a 'Missing 
font' log file message. If the font can't be found there as well (because 
it is not there, or because superatm.db is not there) it will issue a 
Missing fonts message in the log file, but generate a PDF file anyway - 
with a very familiar characteristic ... you guess it? Yes, good old 
Courier font...

>
>My suggestion is to FlighCheck the PS file before distilling.
>

Once Distiller is set up accordingly, you can use Distiller as a kind of 
preflighting tool (and in additon to that add more preflighting to the 
PDF file afterwards, by using one of the two currently available PDF 
preflighting tools, pdfInspektor from callas software (www.callas.de) or 
CheckUp from EnFocus (www.enfocus.com).

Olaf Druemmer



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Tom,

>
>on a Windows 95 system, I found superatm.db in a subdir of my Illustrator 
>directory. Are you really sure that this file effects Distiller?
>

it does affect Distiller (Distiller is actively using it).

Olaf Druemmer


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	This was a common problem with Acrobat 2.*  It happen frequently
      when printing to a PCL printer. Acrobat 3* does a better job of
handling
      PCL printing, I would upgrade.

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> Our company sends PDF documents to our sales force. Occasionally a
> sales
> person will call and say they can't print a document. They get an "out
> of memory", error message.
> One of the files they have trouble with is only three pages long and
> is
> not graphic heavy. 
> The file prints fine on my machine using same equipment as the sales
> force.If anyone has ideas, I could use the help. If anyone would care
> to
> have one of the problem files emailed to them for experiementation,
> email me and I'll sure send it.
> Here are the stats on our equipment.
> PC: Dell latitude xpi 133 with 16M ram
> Printer: Deskjet 340
> OS: Windows 95
> average free hard disk space: 200M
> Programs open at time of trouble: Just Reader
> Acro version: Reader 2.1
> File created from Word and Excel 7.0 printed to Distiller 3.0 set on
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> 
> Thanks,
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I'm sorry to say that Olaf is wrong.  
On the Macintosh platform the file is called superatm.db and is located in
the Acrobat 3.0:Exchange:fonts folder.
However on Windows, the file is titled Distadb.dos and is located in the
Acrobat 3.0/Distillr/Data directory.

**REMOVING THE FILE SUPERATM.DB FROM YOUR ILLUSTRATOR DIRECTORY WILL
DISRUPT ILLUSTRATOR'S FUNCTIONALITY**

In the future, please read the details of my original posts before
dispersing incorrect information.

-Jennifer Erickson
Acrobat Distiller QA Lead
jerickso@adobe.com

Original message sent to private parties interested in disabling
Distiller's font substitution mechanism.

You guessed it Distiller does have a db file which is looks up Adobe Type 1
font metrics and uses these metrics and the AdobeSans/Serif MM font for
substitution.  

How to get around this?  There is a file installed with Distiller called
superatm.db - move this file someplace else (I don't recommend deleting
it...just in case) and Distiller will use the standard definition of
findfont and substitute Courier.  
I verified that you can do this on the Mac.  The file superatm.db is
located in Exchange/Fonts directory.  I am unfamiliar with how Exchange may
use this file, so be warned that removing may affect Exchange's ability to
substitute fonts.  As for Windows I'm still looking into whether this can
be disabled as easily, it appears that I don't have a superatm.db file with
my copy of Distiller.  

Please notice that I'm not posting to the entire list as this info isn't
something that is documented or regularly recommended.  If you still have
troubles with this let me know and I'll do what I can.

At 07:04 AM 1/22/98 -0500, olaf druemmer wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>>
>>on a Windows 95 system, I found superatm.db in a subdir of my Illustrator 
>>directory. Are you really sure that this file effects Distiller?
>>
>
>it does affect Distiller (Distiller is actively using it).
>
>Olaf Druemmer
>
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Jennifer,
>
>
>I'm sorry to say that Olaf is wrong. 

Maybe not. At least not completely.
 
>On the Macintosh platform the file is called superatm.db and is located in
>the Acrobat 3.0:Exchange:fonts folder.

Wrong: there is a folder 'Fonts' besides the Distiller and Exchange 
application inside the 'Acrobat' folder. Inside that 'Fonts' folder the 
file 'superatm.db' can be found. There is no 'Exchange' folder, nor 
(obviously then) a 'Fonts' folder inside an 'Exchange' folder.

>However on Windows, the file is titled Distadb.dos and is located in the
>Acrobat 3.0/Distillr/Data directory.

Correct, apologies for possibly having caused confusion.

>
>In the future, please read the details of my original posts before
>dispersing incorrect information.
>

I would have prefered if this was part of Disitller documentation, or did 
I miss it? Also, though I have been following this list for a while, I 
can't seem to remember your post. The three posts I have seen from you 
since mid September don't deal with this issue.

Also, I would only recommend the 'remove superatm.db' or 'remove 
Distadb.dos' approach for people who want to create files for prepress 
purposes. Anybody else probably wants to leave the file where it is. For 
prepress it seems, you only need the Distiller application and possibly 
prologue.ps/epilogue.ps - and you have the cleanest and (for prepress 
only!) most useful setup for Distiller. My private opinion though, and no 
guarantees. 


Regards,

Olaf Druemmer



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Does Acrobat support sound on platforms other than Windows and Mac? 

Thanks in advance,
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Thanks Christopher, for the response. I guess this is the excuse I'll
need to get the system administrators off their butts and distribute 3.0
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I plan to vend via web site and sell mail order several pdf documents.
Would like to prevent the document from being viewed or printed on any
other computer than the one it was purchased for and orginally unlocked
on.  Any ideas other than Softlock, Inc.?


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>I don't have time to research the particulars of doing that, but this
>discussion
>may rouse any silent Adobe experts on the topic.
>
---

>Also, I would only recommend the 'remove superatm.db' or 'remove
>Distadb.dos' approach for people who want to create files for prepress
>purposes. Anybody else probably wants to leave the file where it is. For
>prepress it seems, you only need the Distiller application and possibly
>prologue.ps/epilogue.ps - and you have the cleanest and (for prepress
>only!) most useful setup for Distiller. My private opinion though, and no
>guarantees.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Olaf Druemmer
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Olaf is correct: deleting "superatm.db" will prevent "silent substitution."
I hope this feature of Distiller will become an option in future versions.

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>I plan to vend via web site and sell mail order several pdf documents.
>Would like to prevent the document from being viewed or printed on any
>other computer than the one it was purchased for and orginally unlocked
>on.  Any ideas other than Softlock, Inc.?
You may look at Secure-it (http://www.datanet.it/Acrobat.htm)

We're also going to release a preliminary version of a product that does 
more.
It is an Acrobat security system similar to our Secure-it product, but 
aimed to be used specifically for on-line web publishing.

The mechanics is the following: the PDF doc is published on the web 
server as you would do for a public domain doc, and when the user clicks 
on the file link to get it, the download starts normally (even 
byteserving).
The secured doc interacts with a plug-in that doesn't prompt the user for 
an open password, but instead it sends a request to a special CGI program 
running on the web server.
This CGI returns the authorization data so the effects is that the doc 
can be opened transparently without user interaction.
The whole operation is really *secure*: both the CGI request and the 
authorization reply data are based on runtime informations, so that the 
user cannot bypassing the web interaction and replicate the authorization 
procedure by hacking a previously happened dialog.
Even if the user has saved a local copy of the file - or he has given a 
copy to a friend -, when he tries to open it the usual authorization 
procedure via web is started and the doc is opened only if he gets a 
correct authorization.

The system can be easily maintained, as the CGI exchanges data through an 
external database that keeps track of which users have privileges over 
the whole set of published docs.
Another advantage is the possibility to have a full log of the CGI 
operations to obtain informations on which the publisher can bill the 
subscribers.

This is perfectly suited for electronic publishing and distribution in a 
large number of applications: medical, legal, financial, technical, press 
agency, wheather reports, etc.

If you are interested, please follow the [PDF-ANN] list and you'll 
receive more informations when the product will be released.

Andrea Valle
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I have Distiller 3.01 for Win95 and would like to change the folder
where it dumps the distilled pdf file.  I don't see a way from the
"Distiller" menu.  Any suggestions?

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I'd like to extend this question by asking how to have a similar arrangement using a shared NT server to distill the files. 


Can a shared PS file printer be set up on a server with Distiller watching for new files? Can Distiller automatically send the PDF back to a directory of the original user?

 

At 02:41 PM 1/23/98 +0100, you wrote:

>

>

>Hello,

>

>We use Distiller 3.0 for Win95.

>

>Is it possible to convert all PS-files in a directory tree and put the PDF

>files in a similar structure?

>Or is there another way to use distiller without In/out directories or

>input queue? - HOW?

>

>Regards,

>

>       Laura Dietz

>(Mannesmann Arcor)

>

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>If we have our pdf optimized and set up for page-at-a-time, can we open
>the document at a page other than page one on the initial open?

If it hasn't been answered yet (I subscribe to the digest),
I think that in Exchange, you go to Document->Set Page Action
for Page 1 to automatically switch to another page.  This would
happen every time you tried to view Page 1, though.


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We have a problem with the smooth fonts (set in reader
preferences) option at 10pt when the text is over the top of a
graphic, in this case a navigation button.

With smoothing on the text on a white background is much clearer
however the text on a coloured background is dimmer and picks up
a slight tint from the image.  Changing the setting the text
becomes brighter with no tint but at the expense of the text on
the white background.

Files produced from Quark 3.32 Adobe PS driver and fonts Helv
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Any ideas anyone

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I'm doing some tests on byteserving PDF files, working with a Microsoft 
IIS 4.0 Web Server delivering some files.
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Explorer browsers on Win32 platform, but on the MacOS platform only 
Netscape seems to run correctly.
With Internet Explorer (bot 3.01 and the new 4.0) the file is not 
byteserved but downloaded completely, and only at the end it displays in 
the browser's window.
I've installed the same last version of the PDFviewer plug-in in both 
cases.
Any suggestions?

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>Olaf is correct: deleting "superatm.db" will prevent "silent substitution."
>I hope this feature of Distiller will become an option in future versions.
>

A slight clarification, and a pair of open questions, with regard to
Jennifer and Olaf's thread re superatm.db from Illustrator's directory.

The superatm.db Distiller uses to fill in metrics for missing fonts is
normally located in Exchange's Fonts directectory or, on Windows, in
theDistadb.dos and is located in the Acrobat 3.0/Distillr/Data directory

On the Mac this file may also be located in the System Folder.

Distiller doesn't seek out locations other than these on your hard disk for
superatm databases, so one located in Illustrator's Fonts directory would
not cause Distiller to do a silent substitution. However, if Distiller's
Font Locations includes Illustrator's Fonts folder, I'd  assume it would
recognize a .db file located therein. Hmm.

One more quandary, though I have't tested this theory: if a user has ATM
Deluxe, I believe it installs the superatm database in the System Folder as
well. Removing it would then cripple ATM Deluxe.

This is why I suggest that type of quiet substitution should be an explicit
option (or simply eliminated) in future versions of Distiller.

Gary Cosimini
Adobe Systems


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Hello,

We use Distiller 3.0 for Win95.

Is it possible to convert all PS-files in a directory tree and put the PDF
files in a similar structure?
Or is there another way to use distiller without In/out directories or
input queue? - HOW?

Regards,

       Laura Dietz
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We have a product that creates intelligent PDF through either PDFwriter =
or Distiller - automatically.=20

However, it would appear that your problem is more fundamental. =
Re-install PDFwriter as a printer on LPT1 (Windows) and then simply =
select it as your printer when printing from Word.

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Bonnie,

PDF Writer is a printer driver for you OS, you can select to print =
directly to a PDF file.

Acrobat Distiller is an interpreter for PostScript files, to convert =
them to PDF. You have to print to a PostScript file first.

A macro for Winword 97 you find at Adobe:
http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4d9e.htm

Tom


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I know this isn't a very complex question but I haven't been able to =
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answer.  I'm trying to save some Microsoft Word (97) files as PDF.  It =
isn't
working.  When I try to use Distiller, it tells me I need PDFWriter.  =
I've
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Bonnie Briggs
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I know this isn't a very complex question but I haven't been able to find an
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Sorry, but I'd like to postpone receiving the list for a while - can
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Bonnie,

PDF Writer is a printer driver for you OS, you can select to print directly to a PDF file.

Acrobat Distiller is an interpreter for PostScript files, to convert them to PDF. You have to print to a PostScript file first.

A macro for Winword 97 you find at Adobe:
http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4d9e.htm

Tom


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I know this isn't a very complex question but I haven't been able to find an
answer.  I'm trying to save some Microsoft Word (97) files as PDF.  It isn't
working.  When I try to use Distiller, it tells me I need PDFWriter.  I've
tried to load PDFWriter, but apparently I'm doing something wrong.  Is there
an easier way, or better yet a way that works?

Thanks,

Bonnie Briggs
The University of Memphis


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Laura,

I did an MS-DOS batch to start Distiller. You'll find it (distiller.bat) at the end of this message.

If you do a 'dir /s/b/a-d *.PS > pdffiles.dat' you have all filenames within one textfile. After that you'll have to insert a 'call distiller ' to every line and delete the '.PostScript' at the end of every line.

If you could build a small programm for the replacemenent or a macro for Winword it would be automized.

Is that a way for you?

Best wishes 

Tom


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@echo off
rem	ToDO:	Für den Einsatz als Standardprogramm muß noch die Erweiterung PS
rem		beim Aufruf bearbeitet, bzw. eliminiert werden.
echo.

echo Start Acrobat Distiller mit %1 ...

D:\progs\Acrobat\Distillr\acrodist.exe /q %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 

:WaitMore
echo 	waiting ...
choice /T:j,10 /N > NUL
if errorlevel == 2 goto UserBreak

if exist %1.pdf goto PDF
if exist %1.log find /i "No PDF file produced" %1.log > NUL
if not errorlevel == 1 goto NoPDF

goto WaitMore

:UserBreak
echo 	... Abbruch durch Benutzer!

:NoPDF
echo 	... Fehler, kein PDF erzeugt!
echo.
echo 	... Logbuch anzeigen? (j/n)	
echo.
choice /T:j,10 /N > NUL
if errorlevel == 2 goto End

echo.
echo.
type %1.log |more
echo.
echo.

:PDF
if exist %1.pdf if exist %1.ps del %1.ps

:End
if exist %1.log del %1.log
echo 	_________________________________
echo.


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Hello,

We use Distiller 3.0 for Win95.

Is it possible to convert all PS-files in a directory tree and put the PDF
files in a similar structure?
Or is there another way to use distiller without In/out directories or
input queue? - HOW?

Regards,

       Laura Dietz
(Mannesmann Arcor)


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Randy,

one way is to work with 'watched folders', second way is to invoke distiller with a command line parameter (Windows), e.g. 'D:\progs\Acrobat\Distillr\acrodist.exe /q D:\Dir\Name1.PRN".

You'll find the PDF file where the PostScript file resided. The '7q' means 'quit Distiller after the job is done'.

Regards

Tom


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I have Distiller 3.01 for Win95 and would like to change the folder
where it dumps the distilled pdf file.  I don't see a way from the
"Distiller" menu.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Randy


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Isn't that the purpose of File, Document Information, Open, Show page XX at startup?

Tom


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>If we have our pdf optimized and set up for page-at-a-time, can we open
>the document at a page other than page one on the initial open?

If it hasn't been answered yet (I subscribe to the digest),
I think that in Exchange, you go to Document->Set Page Action
for Page 1 to automatically switch to another page.  This would
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Olaf Druemmer


>
I'd like to extend this question by asking how to have a similar 
>arrangement using a shared NT server to distill the files. 
>

>

>
Can a shared PS file printer be set up on a server with Distiller 
>watching for new files? Can Distiller automatically send the PDF back to a 
>directory of the original user?
>

>
>Hello,
>

>
>We use Distiller 3.0 for Win95.
>

>
>Is it possible to convert all PS-files in a directory tree and put the PDF
>
>files in a similar structure?
>
>Or is there another way to use distiller without In/out directories or
>
>input queue? - HOW?
>

>
>Regards,
>

>
>       Laura Dietz
>
>(Mannesmann Arcor)



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Subject:	[PDF] Security for retailing pdf docs

I plan to vend via web site and sell mail order several pdf documents.
Would like to prevent the document from being viewed or printed on any
other computer than the one it was purchased for and orginally unlocked
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>
>Kudos to Adobe for making this new tool!!!!

All well & good, but please do NOT post attached files -- pdf or otherwise
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Subject: [PDF] New PDFMaker for Word 97 and Custom Page Sizes with Background...
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:05:29 -0600
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Kudos to Adobe for making this new tool!!!! this may be the ticket for
solving my database to Acrobat (with PDF Marks prewritten) dilemna. By
creating a mail merge, I will be able to populate fields, precode
styles,
set up bookmarks and hyperlinks. Here's my problem...

I want to use a custom background for a screen sized page. I can't seem
to
get distiller to set up the pages correctly.

To do my background, I set up a custom landscape page sized at 640 x
480,
landscape, created a watermark (also 640 x 480) and then flowed my text
into
a table appropriately placed on the page.

I then write the PDF, by running "Create Adobe PDF" with the default
settings. I end up with a page that's 11 x 8.5 1/2", with my page
floating
in the middle of it (big margin). I've included a sample page here for
those
interested. Obviously I want everything to line up.

This seems like a distiller problem. what should my settings in
distiller be
to accomodate this.

Any help would be appreciated.





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I have recently installed a copy of Microsoft IE 4.0 (mac) and am having
problems configuring it to allow me to view bytserved pdf's. We have a
number of optimised PDF's on our journal site and and i have had no problem
with netscape 3 showing clients the benefits of fast loading optimised
PDF's.
I have tried various combinations of the PDF viewer setup in MSIE 4.0 but
it continues to download the entire document before opening it up in the
frame.

i have looked at adobe's site for information on this but to no avail.

 does anyone know how what i am doing wrong.

is there something i have missed or does this mean i cannot use MSIE 4 for
viewing optimised PDF's.

any info much appreciated as i wo


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I am having a problem with my very new web page.

Every time I click on a file to go, to the file will down load two
separate times before it displays.  This will cause a lot of delay at my
site.  It must be something I have done because other sites that I
access do not do this to me.  Any ideas on what I might have done?

Try the site if you wish- www.cq-usa.com  I used another computer from
another site and got the same double download.

Jim Stevens
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With the old plug in Explorer 3.0 is working OK.
But Explorer 4 is a mess everything is downloaded, _NEW don't work and much
more.

Ulf

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrea Valle <valle@datanet.it>
To: PDF Mail List <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Date: den 23 januari 1998 16:23
Subject: [PDF] Byteserving PDF files


>
>I'm doing some tests on byteserving PDF files, working with a Microsoft
>IIS 4.0 Web Server delivering some files.
>All tests have given good results at Client side with Netscape and
>Explorer browsers on Win32 platform, but on the MacOS platform only
>Netscape seems to run correctly.
>With Internet Explorer (bot 3.01 and the new 4.0) the file is not
>byteserved but downloaded completely, and only at the end it displays in
>the browser's window.
>I've installed the same last version of the PDFviewer plug-in in both
>cases.
>Any suggestions?
>
>Greetings,
>Andrea Valle
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I wonder if anyone could help me with this problem:

I first create a book file using Framemaker 5.5.
I then print the book file, and distill the resulting .ps file using
Distiller 3.01.

I have the following problem:

The book file has a table of contents.
Framemaker automatically generates hyperlinks to the specified paragraph
tags throughout the book.
I use the Reference page in the Framemaker table of contents file to format
the table of contents.
Everything works fine, except that in the resulting pdf, the active zones
are not correct in the table of contents for all those paragraph tags that
I formatted.
If I remove the formatting, the active zones come out perfectly.

Has anyone ever experienced this before, and can anyone suggest any
solutions.

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>Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:51:36 -0600
>From: "James D. Stevens" <answrman@earthlink.net>
>Subject: [PDF] Double Loading Problem
>
>I am having a problem with my very new web page.
>
>Every time I click on a file to go, to the file will down load two
>separate times before it displays.  This will cause a lot of delay at my
>site.  It must be something I have done because other sites that I
>access do not do this to me.  Any ideas on what I might have done?
>
>Try the site if you wish- www.cq-usa.com  I used another computer from
>another site and got the same double download.
>
>Jim Stevens
>answrman@cq-usa

Jim - 

What was downloading twice? What browser are you using? 

I only found one PDF file on your site, it worked OK, as did the HTML
pages.

Confused,
Stephen
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>
>I have recently installed a copy of Microsoft IE 4.0 (mac) and am having
>problems configuring it to allow me to view bytserved pdf's. We have a
>number of optimised PDF's on our journal site and and i have had no problem
>with netscape 3 showing clients the benefits of fast loading optimised
>PDF's.
>I have tried various combinations of the PDF viewer setup in MSIE 4.0 but
>it continues to download the entire document before opening it up in the
>frame.
>
>i have looked at adobe's site for information on this but to no avail.
>
> does anyone know how what i am doing wrong.
>
>is there something i have missed or does this mean i cannot use MSIE 4 for
>viewing optimised PDF's.


Don't forget to install the newest PDF OCX.
Have a look at: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ocxreader.html

Erwin
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I having trouble too with IE 4.0 and PDFs.  I went to download a new 
version of the Reader and found that there is an update file for IE 
4.0 users.  The download fixed the byteserving issue and a few other 
issues that may or may not be related.  So, go to the free reader 
download section on the Adobe web site.

Good luck,

==Thane
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Thane Terrill
Network Administrator
Baha'i International Community
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Although I'm on Frame 5.1.2 (Win 95), I have experienced this problem
before.  It showed up when I had a different character format in my
heading.  For example, my heading is usually Universe 47, but I would
occaisonally have Courier in the heading, which was pulled in the TOC and
that's where it would cut off the hot zone.

Contact me offline if you have further questions and/or clarification.


Scott Hamlow
Technical Writer
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http://www.enduracorp.com
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206.517.6487

At 05:30 PM 1/25/98 +0200, you wrote:
>
>I wonder if anyone could help me with this problem:
>
>I first create a book file using Framemaker 5.5.
>I then print the book file, and distill the resulting .ps file using
>Distiller 3.01.
>
>I have the following problem:
>
>The book file has a table of contents.
>Framemaker automatically generates hyperlinks to the specified paragraph
>tags throughout the book.
>I use the Reference page in the Framemaker table of contents file to format
>the table of contents.
>Everything works fine, except that in the resulting pdf, the active zones
>are not correct in the table of contents for all those paragraph tags that
>I formatted.
>If I remove the formatting, the active zones come out perfectly.
>
>Has anyone ever experienced this before, and can anyone suggest any
>solutions.
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Baruch Benatar
>baruch@mercury.co.il
>
>
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thanks for the messages but i am using a apple macintosh not a IBM PC.

i contacted adobe and they do not think that there is a plugin for the mac
version of IE 4.0 available yet but if anyone can telll me otherwise i
would be grateful.

if anyone form adobe reads this then

as an established  designer and developer of PDF's i am disgusted that the
response from UK tech support was "that it may not be available for some
months".

come on adobe - how long do we have to wait?

 i am just glad that as i develop on the mac most of my customer use PC's
to view our documents.





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Acrobat Reader 3.01 is printing very poor bitmaps from PDF files that   
printed fine using Reader 3.0.  The fonts print fine, but the print   
quality of the bitmaps is terrible.  Same file, same printer (HP LaserJet   
5, non-PostScript), same printer driver (Version 3.37) same operating   
system (Windows NT 4.0).  There's not even any difference in the way the   
graphics appear on the monitor.  The only difference is that we upgraded   
from Acrobat Reader 3.0 to Reader 3.01, and now the print quality of our   
bitmaps is lousy.

We have a lot of existing PDF documentation on the intranet, and a lot of   
users who open and print these files.  We're faced with these choices:
1) Go back to the original MS Word documents and redo the files by first   
creating PostScript files and then converting them to PDF with Acrobat   
Distiller.  With this method, the graphics print OK, even from Acrobat   
Reader 3.01.  But this could take a lot of man-hours--time we don't have!
2) Scrap Acrobat technology and distribute Word documents.  With the   
graphics, some of the files are pretty large in Word form, so the   
bandwidth consumption really is unacceptable, even when the files are   
zipped.  And we can't use JPG instead of BMP, because we're also using   
these graphics for on-line help, and RoboHelp needs bitmaps.

Things we've tried and results:
1) Upgrade to PDF Writer 3.03 for Windows NT 4.0--no improvement.  (We   
were hoping the new version of PDF Writer for NT would at least have made   
it easier to convert future documents to PDF, but alas, no.)
2) Upgrade to Version 3.37 of HP LaserJet 5 print driver--no improvement.
3) Modify print settings in Acrobat Reader 3.01--no improvement.
4) Modify setup of LaserJet printer--no improvement.
5) Open file in Acrobat Exchange and re-save as PDF--no improvement.

Has anybody else struggled with this problem?

Thanks,
Tom Campbell
CampbeT@gaatlanta1.btna.com  
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... and the release of Office 98 for the Mac complete with IE 4 etc is
probably a complete surprise to them ... (heavy irony).

If enough people voice there disgust somebody may eventually "twig"
that perhaps something ought to be done. Even Microsoft seem to have
learnt a lesson over the Office debacle on the Mac.

Go for it!

Nic.
==============================================================
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Huntingdon,                for information management & Adobe
Cambs.                    Acrobat integration from within your
UK.                           favourite word processor ...

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Date: 26 January 1998 17:47
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<snip>

>i contacted adobe and they do not think that there is a plugin for
the mac
>version of IE 4.0 available yet but if anyone can telll me otherwise
i
>would be grateful.
>
>if anyone form adobe reads this then
>
>as an established  designer and developer of PDF's i am disgusted
that the
>response from UK tech support was "that it may not be available for
some
>months".
>
>come on adobe - how long do we have to wait?
>
> i am just glad that as i develop on the mac most of my customer use
PC's
>to view our documents.


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From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 01/26/98 12:44 PM

Please be aware that there are other issues with Acrobat and IE 4.0 which I
and others have previously documented on this list.

1) Content Adviser can't be on (otherwise PDF files won't display)
2) Use IE 4.01 rather than 4.0 since otherwise going Back and Forwards
sometimes doesn't work
3)  If security is set to high in a zone (intranet or internet which have
separate settings), Active X controls are disabled.

All of this is true even if you have the OCX control installed. BTW, make
sure the PC users close the browser when they install the OCX control as
well as Acrobat.

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thanks for the messages but i am using a apple macintosh not a IBM PC.
i contacted adobe and they do not think that there is a plugin for the mac
version of IE 4.0 available yet but if anyone can telll me otherwise i
would be grateful.
if anyone form adobe reads this then
as an established  designer and developer of PDF's i am disgusted that the
response from UK tech support was "that it may not be available for some
months".
come on adobe - how long do we have to wait?
 i am just glad that as i develop on the mac most of my customer use PC's
to view our documents.




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Hello, Listmembers.

I've finally managed to beat Adobe Acrobat Distiller into submission.

Some of what I've discovered may be old hat to you industrial-strength
Acrobat users, and these notes are mostly for my own reference. But
some of you who are less-experienced (like me!) may find them of use.

I'd been printing documents with PDF Writer from both Word and Ventura
Publisher 7 (a very powerful program but one that crashes several
times a day for me). Often, a few letters in a line would come out
garbled - looking like Korean or something. And that was fixed by
selecting Start | Printers | Distiller Assistant | Properties - and
then doing the following.

Setting Send Fonts As to send the fonts as Type 42 (or outlines, it
doesn't seem to matter) and turning off font subsetting.

I'd initially given up on Distiller because it was sending all the
fonts as bitmaps; fixed this in the Properties tab by setting the
pixel Threshold to Send Fonts as Bitmaps to 1. However, any of my
documents that used Type 1 fonts showed them all as Korean when
printed to PDF with Distiller. I finally fixed this by converting the
fonts from Type 1 to Truetype - using ARES FontMonger, a program that,
unfortunately, along with FontFiddler and FontMinder, was bought out
and closed down by Adobe. (I can only assume that this was due to a
fit of monopolistic pique, since they didn't release the programs or
use more than a fraction of the code in Type Manager Deluxe.) Anyway,
I'm now able to use subsetting and other optimization features
provided by Distiller to make my PDF files about 75% of the size they
were when I was using PDF writer.

The only problem I still have is that very small fonts - 7.5 points
for example - look blurry even when one zooms in on them. They're not
bitmaps, but they seem to have little blocky descenders on them. Maybe
this is due to the overall resolution, but you'd think that outlines
or Type 42 fonts would look good even at this resolution (switching
from one to the other doesn't seem to matter).

Anyway, I'm finally happy that I've got Distiller working right. And
why Adobe Type 1 fonts look like Korean with Adobe Acrobat, I have no
idea, but luckily I have a copy of FontMonger that I got before they
killed it off, so I can convert all my fonts to Truetype.

Well, thank for listening, and I hope that someone else out there may
discover this and make some use of it.
--Keith Conover, M.D., FACEP
  http://www.pitt.edu/~kconover


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Acrobat Reader 3.01 is printing very poor bitmaps from PDF files that
printed fine using Reader 3.0.  The fonts print fine, but the print
quality of the bitmaps is terrible.  Same file, same printer (HP LaserJet   
    

5, non-PostScript), same printer driver (Version 3.37) same operating
system (Windows NT 4.0).  There's not even any difference in the way the   
    

graphics appear on the monitor.  The only difference is that we upgraded   
    

from Acrobat Reader 3.0 to Reader 3.01, and now the print quality of our   
    

bitmaps is lousy.

We have a lot of existing PDF documentation on the intranet, and a lot of   
    

users who open and print these files.  We're faced with these choices:
1) Go back to the original MS Word documents and redo the files by first   
    

creating PostScript files and then converting them to PDF with Acrobat
Distiller.  With this method, the graphics print OK, even from Acrobat
Reader 3.01.  But this could take a lot of man-hours--time we don't have!
2) Scrap Acrobat technology and distribute Word documents.  With the
graphics, some of the files are pretty large in Word form, so the
bandwidth consumption really is unacceptable, even when the files are
zipped.  And we can't use JPG instead of BMP, because we're also using
these graphics for on-line help, and RoboHelp needs bitmaps.

Things we've tried and results:
1) Upgrade to PDF Writer 3.03 for Windows NT 4.0--no improvement.  (We
were hoping the new version of PDF Writer for NT would at least have made   
    

it easier to convert future documents to PDF, but alas, no.)
2) Upgrade to Version 3.37 of HP LaserJet 5 print driver--no improvement.
3) Modify print settings in Acrobat Reader 3.01--no improvement.
4) Modify setup of LaserJet printer--no improvement.
5) Open file in Acrobat Exchange and re-save as PDF--no improvement.

Has anybody else struggled with this problem?

Thanks,
Tom Campbell
CampbeT@gaatlanta1.btna.com    
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Has anyone experienced this problem?

I have several PDF files that I created using Acrobat that will not open in
Adobe Photoshop.

When I open an image using the File>Import> Image in Acrobat and then save
the file as PDF, it cannot be opened in Photoshop. The error message says
(Could not open"filename.pdf" because this is not an Adobe Photoshop PDF
file.)
When I save an image from Photoshop as a PDF file it opens fine in Acrobat.

Thank's for any help.

Joe Reddy



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Tom,

I forgot facts to ask concening the pictures, becoming now so bad: 

What is about the image contents? 
Are they screenshots or scanned images?
What was the resolution before and after PDF Writer?

Unfortunately the most reliable way to produce PDFs is Acrobat Distiller, but I myself now use PDF Writer in the same enviroment like you, except NT.

Regards


Tom



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Joe,

Photoshop does not like some bitmap formats, e.g. 1 bit black/white. Try greyscale images, that should work. 

Whenever there are other objects than images in the PDF file or multiple images Photoshop does not like them either.

Regards

Tom


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Has anyone experienced this problem?

I have several PDF files that I created using Acrobat that will not open in
Adobe Photoshop.

When I open an image using the File>Import> Image in Acrobat and then save
the file as PDF, it cannot be opened in Photoshop. The error message says
(Could not open"filename.pdf" because this is not an Adobe Photoshop PDF
file.)
When I save an image from Photoshop as a PDF file it opens fine in Acrobat.

Thank's for any help.

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Tom,

you should do a test PDF writer vs. Distiller. Set configuration to:

Distiller:
+ downsample to 75/96 dpi for color and grayscale images
+ manual compression LZW (only if you need compatibility to Acrobat 2.x)
(not automatic compresseion)

PDF Writer:
+ disable downsample 
+ compression LZW for color and grayscale images (only if you need compatibility to Acrobat 2.x)

PDW Writer downsamples the images to 96 dpi under Windows OS, 72 dpi at Mac OS. 

Tom


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Tom,
The pictures are screenshots, captured with PaintShop Pro and saved as   
16-color bitmaps.  The bitmaps look like they've been converted to 75   
dpi, but the text in the file looks fine.

The resolution is set to 600 dpi in PDF Writer.  I'm not sure how to   
determine the resolution after PDF Writer.  However, any file that we've   
produced with PDF Writer, at any resolution, prints poorly from Acrobat   
Reader 3.01.

What's strange is that the same file that looks bad when printed from   
Acrobat Reader 3.01, looks good when printed from Acrobat Reader 3.0 or   
Acrobat Exchange 3.0.

Guten tag,
Tom

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Tom,

I forgot facts to ask concening the pictures, becoming now so bad:

What is about the image contents?
Are they screenshots or scanned images?
What was the resolution before and after PDF Writer?

Unfortunately the most reliable way to produce PDFs is Acrobat
Distiller, but I myself now use PDF Writer in the same enviroment like
you, except NT.

Regards


Tom



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I need some advice on the options available/issues involved with
making pdf documents searchable on an intranet:-

- are pdf documents searchable by conventional search engines as is or
do they have to be stored in say ASCII format (which I think is an
option from Distiller)
- does Catalog have to be used and if so what does it do that can't be
done by something else?
- are there particular search engines that work better or are better
integrated  with searching acrobat (and the other types of )documents?
- what issues affect how these things are set up e.g. platform/OS or
way in which the acrobat files are prepared which make life easier,
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Hello,

This problem ONLY occurs when using TrueTypeFonts which don't belong to the
13 standard fonts (Helvetica, Courier, ..)

I recently found out why text search in ttf-font subsets doesn't work.

When subsets are generated, the font outlines of used characters were taken
and put together to a new font. Thats ok for me, but the text information
seems to change. e.g An R is converted to a C which looks like an R. Now
searching for "R" isn't successful. Textsearch for "C" is successful, but
shows me something that looks like an "R".

An other way to prove this, is to copy a piece of text and paste it to an
ascii editor. In your PDF viewer you see the outlines. But an ASCII editor
uses the text information.

Can anyone support my apprehension or am i just to stupid to convert my
PDF-docs right?

Regards,

       Laura Dietz
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Subject: [PDF] Advice on Searching of PDF on Intranet Needed



>- are pdf documents searchable by conventional search engines as is or
>do they have to be stored in say ASCII format (which I think is an
>option from Distiller)

See: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/captmanage2.html
and http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ifilter.html
Using the Adobe IFilter you can index and search PDF files through the Microsoft
Index Server. Index Sever is an indexer/search engine for Microsoft IIS
(Internet Information Server). You won't need Catalog.

>- does Catalog have to be used and if so what does it do that can't be
>done by something else?

Normally Catalog is not used, although I know a product from Verity
(www.verity.com), SearchPDF, that uses Catalog.


Regards,
Erwin


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>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Rick Melanson [SMTP:rmelanso@pop.tiac.net]
>Sent:	Wednesday, January 28, 1998 6:26 AM
>To:	pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
>Subject:	[PDF] Changing ISP
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>Good Morning List, 
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>A quick question. I am changing my ISP and I do not know what I need to
>do to alert this list. I cannot locate the information I was given when
>I initially signed onto the PDF list. Anyone have a suggestion. Thank
>you and have a good day.
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I need a simple, but definitive, "Yes or No": Is sound supported on
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to page entry actions. Is it going to work on Solaris, Linux, etc.? If it's
not automatic (and it appears not to be, according to our beta testers),
what plug-ins are needed?




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Hello,

Acrobat 3, Windows 95

I'm wanting to set up my clients Acrobat Readers so the search
preferences include the "Search Fields" option by default.  Where in the
INI file is this turned on?...it didn't seem obvious to me.

Thanks.

Regards,
Michael Cessna
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This is done in the Windows 95 Registry using the ABCPY.INI file. You can
get the info from the ABCPYDOC.INI file. Here's a sample:

Group6Platform=Win32
Group6NumberofRegEntries=1
Group6RegEntry1=Win32,HKEY_CURRENT_USER,Software\Adobe\Acrobat\AcroSrch\3.0\
Options\HideOnQuery,Default,String,Y



At 01:45 PM 1/28/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>Acrobat 3, Windows 95
>
>I'm wanting to set up my clients Acrobat Readers so the search
>preferences include the "Search Fields" option by default.  Where in the
>INI file is this turned on?...it didn't seem obvious to me.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Regards,
>Michael Cessna
>-- 
>Cessna Publishing
>http://www.win.net/cessnapub
>mailto:mcessna@ckt.net
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     I setup Microsoft IIS 4.0 + Index Server 2.0 with the pdf filter of 
     Adobe.
     And it doesn't work !!! you cannot search pdf throught the Web
     
     Previously it worked with IIS 3.0 & IndexServer 1.1 & the previous pdf 
     filter 
     But why it doesn't work this time ?
     
     I know it. It seems that Microsoft modified a DDL ("query.dll") with 
     which you can search "PFD" instead of "PDF" files.
     Normally if you modify all the pdf file with the extension "PFD" it 
     works.
     I did not try
     
     I downloaded instead a new dll written by a third party from a web 
     site and now it works perfectly.
     
     My question is the following:
     
     What game are Microsoft & Adobe playing ???
     
     Marc Medjad

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Tom,
We did as you suggested.  Turning off downsampling in PDFWriter didn't   
help, and changing compression did not help either.  Even   
16-million-color bitmaps are still unreadable when printed from Acrobat   
3.01.  This is the case when we print the file to any of three different   
HP printers: LaserJet4, LaserJet 5, and LaserJet 5si MX.  No matter what   
we try, Acrobat Reader 3.01 just cannot provide the same print quality   
that we got with Reader 3.0. (We're creating PDFs from MS Word running on   
Windows NT 4.0machines, and printing to a non-PostScript HP LaserJet 5.)
However, even the lowest-resolution graphics print great when the PDF   
file is created with Distiller--even when graphics are downsampled and   
the resolution is set to 150 dpi.

So we can only conclude that we need to avoid PDF Writer and use   
Distiller instead.  Using Watched Folders makes the PostScript/Distiller   
routine somewhat less painful, although we can't fully automate the   
process of converting 100 or so MS Word documents to PDF files all over   
again.

Adobe was slow to release PDF Writer for the NT platform, and after it   
was released, a new version of Reader came out pretty quickly that could   
not handle the PDFs we'd created with PDF Writer. We hoped that the new   
PDF Writer upgrade (version 3.03) would keep pace with the new Reader   
3.01.  Unfortunately, no.

This experience has taught us that unless Adobe shows a greater   
commitment to development for the NT platform, we should avoid PDF Writer   
in the future. I say all this not to bash Adobe, because the Acrobat   
products--not to mention Adobe's other great applications--are excellent.   
It's just a practical decision as to how best invest our time.

Thanks to all who provided suggestions.  I will let you know if we find a   
way to make PDF Writer 3.03 for NT work for us.

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You may have to save the PDF in 2.1 format. Macromedia Freehand can only open 2.1 format.


At 12:18 PM 1/27/98 -0500, you wrote:

>

>Has anyone experienced this problem?

>

>I have several PDF files that I created using Acrobat that will not open in

>Adobe Photoshop.

>

>When I open an image using the File>Import> Image in Acrobat and then save

>the file as PDF, it cannot be opened in Photoshop. The error message says

>(Could not open"filename.pdf" because this is not an Adobe Photoshop PDF

>file.)

>When I save an image from Photoshop as a PDF file it opens fine in Acrobat.

>

>Thank's for any help.

>

>Joe Reddy

>

>

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Is there a plug-in to make a hotlink to launch another application in win32? This PDF environment will only be used on win32 PCs.


Thanks!



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I continue to be plagued by a problem with the views of some pdf files refusing to redraw on screen, after scrolling down and back up or clicking the different "fit to" boxes. The view becomes so screwed up, I have to close and re-open the file.

The only pattern I've detected is that files that do this tend to have multiple text fields. And when it does do it, both Reader 3.0.1 and Exchange 3.0.1 do it with 12 MB and 16MB RAM assigned, respectively. It also does it on multiple PMac workstations running MacOS 7.6.1.

I can't believe that RAM allocation is the problem (seems like plenty).
Does anyone have any ideas?

TIA

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Hello --

I am having difficulty distilling a post script file into PDF.

I am trying to Distill a 31 meg FrameMaker book file into PDF using
Distiller 3.02. The book file was initially created in FrameMaker 4.x or 5
and updated, and regenerated in Frame 5.5.1. It contains text and some
images imported into anchored frames.

When I try to distill, Distiller gets to 99% done then crashes, displaying
the message "Low Printer VM." Adoce support has no answers. They claim the
file is too large, yet I've distilled 200 meg files on this machine. They
asked me to use an NT machine, but that is not feasable.

I have broken the book file into two parts, both of which distill fine, but
I lose the links between the two sections.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to resolve the problem of this file not
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Joe,

>When I open an image using the File>Import> Image in Acrobat and then save
>the file as PDF, it cannot be opened in Photoshop. The error message says
>(Could not open"filename.pdf" because this is not an Adobe Photoshop PDF
>file.)

The error message is exactly correct. The _only_ PDF files that can be
opened by PhotoShop are the ones generated by PhotoShop. Adobe PhotoShop
does not contain a PDF import filter for general PDF files. Instead it does
a textual search for the image data in those files it recognizes to be
saved out by itself (which is checked rather rigorously)...

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You may be able to use the "Open File" action in a link to accomplish this
-- no plug-in needed.

If the file named in the link has an extension known to the user's
environment, the appropriate application program will be started; e.g., a
link to a .TXT file will cause NOTEPAD.EXE to be executed.

HTH

Tom Thiersch

At 05:29 PM 1/28/98 -0600, you wrote:
> Is there a plug-in to make a hotlink to launch another application in
win32? This PDF environment will only be used on win32 PCs.
>
>Thanks!
>
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I wonder if anyone else is having the problems I have with the Pitstop
demo plug-in.  I am running a power Mac.  With Exchange 3.0 and System
7.5.5 it would load, but then at some point the machine would freeze.

With OS8 and Exchange 3.01 I get the following "System error: Acrobat
Exchange 3.01 address error".  Increasing the memory partition for
Exchange to 10 mb does not help.

Pitstop sounds nice, but this behaviour is possibly a warning.

Any comments or suggestions.

By the way the pitstop version is 1.1

Thanks,

John

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I very much regret upgrading to IE 4.0.  In version 3 pdf documents loaded
in the browser window when either online or offline.  I need to use
offline viewing in order to fine tune the pdf document opening settings.

But IE 4.0 does not seem to allow offline viewing in the browser window. 
I have installed ocxinst.exe which supposedly installed the pdf viewer in
the Exchange 3.0 directory.  But when I run through the options in my
webpage mockup and from one of those pages attempt to open a linked pdf
file, the message "no viewer available for this type of object" comes up.

If I attempt to open the pdf directly from the browser open file, I am
presented with the list of file types and pdf is not among them.  If I
then click "all files" and select the targeted pdf document, it opens but
not in the browser window.

On the other hand, everything seems to work when I attempt to link with
pdf files  online.

Context advisor is turned off.

Any suggestions.  It sure would be nice to be able to preview a project
with links to pdf files offline.

Does IE 4.01 solve the problem?

Thanks,

John

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From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 01/28/98 02:47 PM

PaperPort  4.0 for Windows (not '95 or NT) did have an option to write
files to PDF image files. This went away with the Deluxe software and if
you have both PaperPort and Acrobat installed on a Win 95 machine you get
these errors. There is a file up on the Visioneer Web site that allows you
to stop getting the OLE and broken link message; also Visioneer has an INI
file that can be edited. Adobe's web site now says to write-out the
Visioneer scans as TIFF files and then import them into Acrobat.

In other words, this used to work but no longer doesn't.



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Anyone using Paperport.
I have recently had to re-install both Paperport and Acrobat onto my new
Win 95 PC (isn't life tough). To my knowledge everything is the same. Both
installations entirely standard.
Now when I try and use the Acrobat link from Paperport (output options
anything other than PDF Image only) I get a message that the software is
attempting to access an unlicensed OLE feature and then there is an
"abnormal termination".
I have recently upgraded to Acrobat 3.01 but am sure (or was) that I had
successfully used this feature with 3.01.
Anyone got any thoughts?
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To: Tom Campbell  

Here's a quote from Page 26 of the "PDFWRITR.PDF" file installed with Acrobat 3:

------------
Changing the downsampling setting

Downsampling reduces resolution by averaging the pixel color of a sample
area and replacing that area with a pixel of the averaged color. PDF Writer
automatically
downsamples images in the following manner:

* Color images are downsampled to 96 (Windows) or 72 (Macintosh) dpi.
* Grayscale images are downsampled to 96 (Windows) or 150 (Macintosh) dpi.
* Monochrome images are downsampled to 300 (Windows and Macintosh) dpi.

You cannot alter the downsampling resolution setting in PDF Writer. If you
need more control over downsampling images, use Acrobat Distiller. See About
image downsampling and subsampling for more information.
------------

Note the sentence "You cannot alter the downsampling resolution setting in
PDF Writer."!!!

I really don't think there's much cause for complaint about PDFWriter --
it's very clear from the above (and from zillions of other postings on
various lists) that you just can't expect to get decent quality images via
PDFWriter.  Never have, never will.

PDFWriter is really just a tool for casual drafts or text-only output.  This
has got very little to do with NT -- the same limitations apply to all
platforms.  Note: I'm not defending Adobe's delays in getting NT-compatible
products to market -- I've been among the many to complain about this in the
past.

Just use Distiller the way Adobe intended, and you will 
  a) get the results you expect for all kinds of documents, and
  b) have a great deal more control over the process.

Good luck!

Tom Thiersch


At 05:24 PM 1/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>Tom,
>We did as you suggested.  Turning off downsampling in PDFWriter didn't   
>help, and changing compression did not help either.  Even   
>16-million-color bitmaps are still unreadable when printed from Acrobat   
>3.01.  This is the case when we print the file to any of three different   
>HP printers: LaserJet4, LaserJet 5, and LaserJet 5si MX.  No matter what   
>we try, Acrobat Reader 3.01 just cannot provide the same print quality   
>that we got with Reader 3.0. (We're creating PDFs from MS Word running on   
>Windows NT 4.0machines, and printing to a non-PostScript HP LaserJet 5.)
>However, even the lowest-resolution graphics print great when the PDF   
>file is created with Distiller--even when graphics are downsampled and   
>the resolution is set to 150 dpi.
>
>So we can only conclude that we need to avoid PDF Writer and use   
>Distiller instead.  Using Watched Folders makes the PostScript/Distiller   
>routine somewhat less painful, although we can't fully automate the   
>process of converting 100 or so MS Word documents to PDF files all over   
>again.
>
>Adobe was slow to release PDF Writer for the NT platform, and after it   
>was released, a new version of Reader came out pretty quickly that could   
>not handle the PDFs we'd created with PDF Writer. We hoped that the new   
>PDF Writer upgrade (version 3.03) would keep pace with the new Reader   
>3.01.  Unfortunately, no.
>
>This experience has taught us that unless Adobe shows a greater   
>commitment to development for the NT platform, we should avoid PDF Writer   
>in the future. I say all this not to bash Adobe, because the Acrobat   
>products--not to mention Adobe's other great applications--are excellent.   
>It's just a practical decision as to how best invest our time.
>
>Thanks to all who provided suggestions.  I will let you know if we find a   
>way to make PDF Writer 3.03 for NT work for us.
>
>Tom Campbell  
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>      - The free ones: As far as I  know there are only two
>         . SearchPDF from Verity which works with Acrobat Catalog and allow 
>      searching PDF and only PDF - Besides it is not customisable. I stopped 
>      using this one on my WinNT server. I heard there is also a version for 
>      Unix
> 
There is a version of SearchPDF for Unix, but there is not a version of Adobe
Catalog. Last time I enquired about this I was informed that Adobe Catalog
for Unix was not even planned. Does anyone know if this situation has changed?

	Ann
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I read that this problem of being able to "open file" command is a security
problem.
Does anyone know if this is still a risk?

Randall

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Thiersch <thiersch@env-sol.com>
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug-in to launch executables in win32?


>
>You may be able to use the "Open File" action in a link to accomplish this
>-- no plug-in needed.
>
>If the file named in the link has an extension known to the user's
>environment, the appropriate application program will be started; e.g., a
>link to a .TXT file will cause NOTEPAD.EXE to be executed.
>
>HTH
>
>Tom Thiersch
>
>At 05:29 PM 1/28/98 -0600, you wrote:
>> Is there a plug-in to make a hotlink to launch another application in
>win32? This PDF environment will only be used on win32 PCs.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>
>>Jeremy Treister
>>jtreister@graphicmis.com
>>     Sensorium Software, Inc.
>>     1353 South Wabash Avenue
>>     Chicago, Illinois 60605
>>          v 312.786.1330.515
>>            888.346.4727
>>           f 312.786.1324
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> ----------
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> 
> 
> Is there a plug-in to make a hotlink to launch another application in
> win32? This PDF environment will only be used on win32 PCs. 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> 
> Jeremy Treister 
> jtreister@graphicmis.com 
>      Sensorium Software, Inc. 
>      1353 South Wabash Avenue 
>      Chicago, Illinois 60605 
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Dennis Walker wrote:
> 
> I continue to be plagued by a problem with the views of some pdf files
> refusing to redraw on screen [...]

Things like that are typically video drivers.  Are the different Macs you tried
using different video drivers?

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I've never used PitStop on a MAC, but I've not had a similar error in a
Win'95 environment.

PitStop is nice. I gave a demo on it a couple months back and my superiors
(so they think ... haha.... hope they don't read this) purchased a copy and
I was "recognized" in the company. So they too thought highly of it. 

Do you have just a Demo, or a timed Evaluation? I would recommend emailing
Enfocus and requesting a timed eval. This will allow you to save your PDF
so you can actually see what it will look like outside of the PitStop
interface.


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----------
> From: John V Matthews Jr. <ohana@freenet.carleton.ca>
> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
> Subject: [PDF] Pitstop problems
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 11:05 PM
> 
> 
> I wonder if anyone else is having the problems I have with the Pitstop
> demo plug-in.  I am running a power Mac.  With Exchange 3.0 and System
> 7.5.5 it would load, but then at some point the machine would freeze.
> 
> With OS8 and Exchange 3.01 I get the following "System error: Acrobat
> Exchange 3.01 address error".  Increasing the memory partition for
> Exchange to 10 mb does not help.
> 
> Pitstop sounds nice, but this behaviour is possibly a warning.
> 
> Any comments or suggestions.
> 
> By the way the pitstop version is 1.1
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> 
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Jeremy,


try infolinker at  http://ais.atk.com 

I've been using this for awhile and even though it isn't a requirement of
ours, I'd be lying if I said I didn't play around with it and it does work
very nicely.


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> From: Jeremy Treister <jtreister@graphicmis.com>
> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
> Subject: [PDF] Plug-in to launch executables in win32?
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 06:29 PM
> 
> 
> Is there a plug-in to make a hotlink to launch another application in
win32? This PDF environment will only be used on win32 PCs.
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> Jeremy Treister
> 
> jtreister@graphicmis.com
> 
>      Sensorium Software, Inc.
> 
>      1353 South Wabash Avenue
> 
>      Chicago, Illinois 60605
> 
>           v 312.786.1330.515
> 
>             888.346.4727
> 
>            f 312.786.1324
> 
> <italic>Visual Business Models
> 
> Intellectual Multimedia
> 
> </italic>
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>From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 01/28/98 02:47 PM
>
>PaperPort  4.0 for Windows (not '95 or NT) did have an option to write
>files to PDF image files. This went away with the Deluxe software and if
>you have both PaperPort and Acrobat installed on a Win 95 machine you get
>these errors. There is a file up on the Visioneer Web site that allows you
>to stop getting the OLE and broken link message; also Visioneer has an INI
>file that can be edited. Adobe's web site now says to write-out the
>Visioneer scans as TIFF files and then import them into Acrobat.
>

I abandoned paperport for mac-similar reasons and went back to using a
flatbed scanner and photoshop.

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We received some PDF files which appear normal (normal meaning being
valid PDF files, and having non-zero length except that they do not
display any text.  The bookmarks appear but not a single character or
graphic.  Inspection of the PDF file with a text editor shows that most
objects are in place, but the text is encoded and cannot be decoded.

The PDF files are accompanied by other files (!openfol.der, desktop,
fileid.dat, finder.dat, !desktop.pri, resource.frk) which seem to
indicate that they came from a Mac, although the producer was Distiller
for Solaris or Distiller 3.0 for Windows.  However, opening the files on
a Mac produced
the same result as the PC.

The message "The file is damaged but is being repaired" appears on some
files.

The files were received on a DOS formatted Zip drive.

Is this something anyone else has seen?  Any ideas on how to recover?
Would they be readable on a Mac?  What happened to PDF platform
independence?

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Anyone else experiencing problems with the new forms tools available from 
Adobe?


I downloaded them, and now Exchange crashes the Mac at launch with a Type 
11 error, with the AcroForm plug-in installed.


Nicky Milner
Quebecor Printing Canada



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I have tested Pitstop and various other so called pdf/postscript editors and
found them all to be lacking. The only industrial strength pdf editor I have
found is made by OneVision called DigiScript. Check out their web page at
www.OneVision.de.

If you want additional info on that product feel free to contact me directly
at BriO500@aol.com

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         Reply to:   Re: [PDF] Screen Redraw
Cory Snavely wrote:
>
>Dennis Walker wrote:
>> >> I continue to be plagued by a problem with the views of some pdf files
>> refusing to redraw on screen [...]
>
>Things like that are typically video drivers.  Are the different Macs you tried
>using different video drivers?

Both on-board video and accelerated 4MB video card. It really seems to be related to the files themselves, since the majority of pdf files function fine. 
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Hi Nicky,

I just received this e mail from enFocus:


Keith,

>I own PitStop 1.1for Windows (serial nr 30716   PWST1.1) and have
>successfully installed and used it with Exchange for a week or so.
>Yesterday  I downloaded and installed the Adobe Forms update and then
>couldn't launch Exchange 3.01 at all.

Yes, this is a known problem. There is a known incompatibility between 
the new Adobe form tool and the current version of PitStop. The problem 
is solved with the new version of PitStop (version 1.5) which is a free 
upgrade for you as a registered PitStop 1.1 user. The new version will
be 
available on our website very shortly. (probably still this weekend)

Kind regards,
David.


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> 
> 
> Anyone else experiencing problems with the new forms tools available
> from 
> Adobe?
> 
> 
> I downloaded them, and now Exchange crashes the Mac at launch with a
> Type 
> 11 error, with the AcroForm plug-in installed.
> 
> 
> Nicky Milner
> Quebecor Printing Canada
> 
> 
> 
> Nicky Milner
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I noticed some problems when trying to install both plug-ins on the same 
system. After reinstalling the Authoring Plug-in again, I was able to 
make use of the new functionality. Now if someone out there could put a 
good demo together...



>Anyone else experiencing problems with the new forms tools available from 
>Adobe?
>
>
>I downloaded them, and now Exchange crashes the Mac at launch with a Type 
>11 error, with the AcroForm plug-in installed.
>
>
>Nicky Milner
>Quebecor Printing Canada
>
>
>
>Nicky Milner
>Quebecor Printing Canada
>nmilner@quebecor.com
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Hello to all.

I've recently joined this list and have since found it to be a wealth of
information. I am hoping that some of you experienced users may be able to
help me out with a problem I've found particularly annoying.

I'm putting together a newsletter in Pagemaker 6 which will be used as a
generic sample for marketing purposes. I am also converting it to pdf  so
that my colleague and I can maximize our market penetration. I'm very
pleased with the conversion results, except for the following:

When I attempt to distill a clipped b&w image which is (at this point I
hope is) part of the masthead I get the following message and am booted out
of the distillation process.

Error in interpreter: Fatal error.
PostScript interpreter internal error.  Cannot continue.
%%[ PostScript fatal error ]%%
Please quit the Distiller and restart the application.

The image is a tif file (rgb, 72dpi) clipped in Photoshop 4. Distiller
cannot digest this. Why? And how can I ensure that this clipped image is
properly processed and subsequently displayed in Acrobat Reader? Btw, this
problem does not occur with color images which convert beautifully, as do
text and fills created in Pagemaker, while retaining their clipping paths.

I am using Distiller 2.1 PE (the version that was bundled with Pagemaker 6)
and Reader 3.0 on Win95.

Thanking all who reply,
                                                   Allan Ennist
 <Word's Worth - Business & Personal Document Design>
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Can anyone translate the following error message I am receiving?

%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[ Page: 1 ]%%
%%[ Error: unmatchedmark; OffendingCommand: findfont ]%%

Stack:
/Font
false
/Times-Bold
true
0.913043
/F6


%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%

I am creating PDF files from Word using Distiller Assistant.  My
Distiller Job Options are set to embed all fonts.  I had
created several PDF files when all of a sudden I started getting this
error, and I cannot correct it.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Chris Curley
Technical Writer
THE INFO GROUP
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>I wonder if anyone else is having the problems I have with the Pitstop
>demo plug-in.  I am running a power Mac.  With Exchange 3.0 and System
>7.5.5 it would load, but then at some point the machine would freeze.
>
>With OS8 and Exchange 3.01 I get the following "System error: Acrobat
>Exchange 3.01 address error".  Increasing the memory partition for
>Exchange to 10 mb does not help.
>
>Pitstop sounds nice, but this behaviour is possibly a warning.
>
>Any comments or suggestions.
>
>By the way the pitstop version is 1.1


Make sure you have a space in the _name_ of your boot hard disk. A minor
bug in some versions of PitStop which I believe they are addressing.

Also, I've experienced a collision between PitStop and the new Acrobat
Forms plug-in, again on Mac. Simply rename the PitStop plug-in "aaPitstop"
or something like that so it will load _before_ AcroForm instead of after
it and the problem is resolved. Enfocus has been notified of this problem
by Adobe Developer Support.

Gary Cosimini
Adobe Systems


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The latest Reader 3.01 issues a warning message when you click on a link
that invokes an executable.

The risk is the same, but at least the user is notified that they are about
to be exposed to it!

Tom Thiersch 

At 06:51 AM 1/29/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>I read that this problem of being able to "open file" command is a security
>problem.
>Does anyone know if this is still a risk?
>
>Randall
>
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>Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 10:04 PM
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>>
>>You may be able to use the "Open File" action in a link to accomplish this
>>-- no plug-in needed.
>>
>>If the file named in the link has an extension known to the user's
>>environment, the appropriate application program will be started; e.g., a
>>link to a .TXT file will cause NOTEPAD.EXE to be executed.
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>Tom Thiersch
>>
>>At 05:29 PM 1/28/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>> Is there a plug-in to make a hotlink to launch another application in
>>win32? This PDF environment will only be used on win32 PCs.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>Jeremy Treister
>>>jtreister@graphicmis.com
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Here's a little off-topic tidbit that I recently came across that may be of interest to 
others on the list.  If you work in a Win95  environment where you are often adding and 
removing drives from your system (such as Zip, Jaz, etc.) you may have experienced the 
problem that  your CD-ROM drive floats around causing some software which looks for the 
CD-ROM to not work.  I recently found that, on many CD-ROM drivers under Win95, you can lock 
your CD-ROM drive down to a specific spot (say G:) by going to the System Properties dialog 
box (e.g. go to Control Panel->System), Select Device Manager tab, Select CDROM, Double 
Click on the CD-ROM driver under CDROM, goto Setting tab and change the Reserved drive 
letters to the one(s) you want.  Hope others find this useful.

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Nicky,

no problem on my side so far.

There are a few thigs to look at, or for me to know.

First, how much memory have you assigned to Exchange? Do you have Exchange
3.01?

What kind of machine do you use? How much physical RAM is installed? Which
OS version are you using? Is Virtual Memory on? Are you using SpeedDoubler
or RAMDoubler? Are you using any other suspicious INITs?

As said, I have no problems with Acrobat Exchange 3.01 on a PowerMac 7500,
upgraded with a MaxPower 604e, 27Meg assigned to Exchange, 112Meg physical
RAM, no virtual memory, OS 7.5.5 and a lot of INTs.

However, I can't print anymore out of Exchange to the good old LaserWriter
IINT with LaserWriter 8.5.1.

Hope, this can help.


Max Wyss
PRODOK Engineering AG
Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing
CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland

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>Anyone else experiencing problems with the new forms tools available from
>Adobe?
>
>
>I downloaded them, and now Exchange crashes the Mac at launch with a Type
>11 error, with the AcroForm plug-in installed.
>
>
>Nicky Milner
>Quebecor Printing Canada
>
>
>
>Nicky Milner
>Quebecor Printing Canada
>nmilner@quebecor.com
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Scott,

> This is done in the Windows 95 Registry using the ABCPY.INI file. You can
> get the info from the ABCPYDOC.INI file. Here's a sample:
> 
> Group6Platform=Win32
> Group6NumberofRegEntries=1
> Group6RegEntry1=Win32,HKEY_CURRENT_USER,Software\Adobe\Acrobat\AcroSrch\3.0\
> Options\HideOnQuery,Default,String,Y

Thanks for the info!  It's a great help.

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Could someone from Adobe or on the list explain the advantages of
loading the new forms plug-in in simple terms? Is this only a web
related benefit? From browsing the web site, it looks like the new
plug-in would benefit web applications, but not CD related applications.


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From: Elissa Sampson@METLIFE on 01/29/98 02:23 PM

I've documented previously on this list the following issues with IE 4.0.
and Acrobat 3.01 even with the OCX control installed.

1) Run 4.01 not 4.01 since otherwise backwards and forwards have problems
2) Internet and intranet zone security (which are separate) must not be set
to High since this disables Active X Plug-ins
3) File, Open for a PDF file on a local PC does not work with IE4.01
although it does work for IE 3.02.





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I very much regret upgrading to IE 4.0.  In version 3 pdf documents loaded
in the browser window when either online or offline.  I need to use
offline viewing in order to fine tune the pdf document opening settings.
But IE 4.0 does not seem to allow offline viewing in the browser window.
I have installed ocxinst.exe which supposedly installed the pdf viewer in
the Exchange 3.0 directory.  But when I run through the options in my
webpage mockup and from one of those pages attempt to open a linked pdf
file, the message "no viewer available for this type of object" comes up.
If I attempt to open the pdf directly from the browser open file, I am
presented with the list of file types and pdf is not among them.  If I
then click "all files" and select the targeted pdf document, it opens but
not in the browser window.
On the other hand, everything seems to work when I attempt to link with
pdf files  online.
Context advisor is turned off.
Any suggestions.  It sure would be nice to be able to preview a project
with links to pdf files offline.
Does IE 4.01 solve the problem?
Thanks,
John
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Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote:

> I recently found out why text search in ttf-font subsets doesn't work.

More grist for the mill... TT fonts, unless CAREFULLY regulated, are
anathema to PDF.
 
> When subsets are generated, the font outlines of used characters were taken
> and put together to a new font. Thats ok for me, but the text information
> seems to change. e.g An R is converted to a C which looks like an R. Now
> searching for "R" isn't successful. Textsearch for "C" is successful, but
> shows me something that looks like an "R".
> 
> An other way to prove this, is to copy a piece of text and paste it to an
> ascii editor. In your PDF viewer you see the outlines. But an ASCII editor
> uses the text information.
> 
> Can anyone support my apprehension or am i just to stupid to convert my
> PDF-docs right?

Unfortunately, you are not "too stupid" (hmm, that doesn't sound quite
right) -- your assessment is correct.

The (oft-said) lesson:  FOr reliable PDF,  banish all TT fonts!!  Or,
junk PDFWriter.... it's up to you.  Distiller is much better anyhow.

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Nic Plum asked:

> - are pdf documents searchable by conventional search engines as is or
> do they have to be stored in say ASCII format (which I think is an
> option from Distiller)

Many search engines index PDFs, including Acrobat Catalog (comes with
Acrobat 3.01).  For many intranets, this engine is adequate (and VERY
inexpensive).

> - does Catalog have to be used and if so what does it do that can't be
> done by something else?

You really need to compare feature-sets of various products against your
own requirements.  No, you don't HAVE to use Catalog.

> - are there particular search engines that work better or are better
> integrated  with searching acrobat (and the other types of )documents?

Catalog is (naturally) very well intergrated.  Verity's engine is good,
but muy bucks, or so I hear.

> - what issues affect how these things are set up e.g. platform/OS or
> way in which the acrobat files are prepared which make life easier,
> more difficult or impossible?

--Avoid TT fonts in general, if possible.
--Use Distiller rather than PDFWriter to create your files
--Rstrict yourself to 8.3 naming schemes (conservative, but if you EVER
need 16-bit compliance, you'll be happy you did)
--Group your documents logically

...there are other things, but that's a start...

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Duff Johnson
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I ran into a problem with a file that was created using PowerMac Distiller
2.1 with a fully embedded Hebrew font (AnglicizedSans) that wasn't on the
PC; when the file was edited with the touch-up tool both the English and
Hebrew fonts could be edited and printed. However, once the file was saved,
then the Hebrew language font reverted to bullets/gobley gook?

Is this a 2.1 issue that 3.01 can edit and print sucessfully but not save
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Does anyone know if the newly available forms filler (fill32us.exe) plug-in
from the Adobe web site should be run only if Reader 3.01 (and not Exchange
3.01) is installed?

I have the impression (which may be erroneous) that If Exchange 3.01 is
also on a workstation it looks like the plug-in perhaps mistakenly goes and
installs under Exchange (rather than Reader).


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I found out the hard way that if PDFWriter 3.03 is on a PC running NT 4.0
and Acrobat 3.01 Exchange is uninstalled and then re-installed without
deleting PDFWriter 3.03, then the Capture Plug-in won't install!

This odd experiment is repeatable. The message that comes up is that the
Capture Plug-in can't be installed on NT 4.0. The rest of the Acrobat
installation works fine. The only way around this problem seems to be to
Uninstall PDFWriter 3.03 in Control Panel (Add/Remove Programs), reinstall
Acrobat, and then install PDFWriter 3.03 again.

Which gets to another issue that is increasing pertinent for large
corporations. I'm sort of getting the feeling when I'm installing Acrobat
3.01 on an NT 4.0 machine that there is too much patch-work here. First you
install a postscript print driver, then  you do a Acrobat 3.01 basic
install, with nothing there (except maybe ATM 4.0 for NT which needs to be
purchased separately as opposed to the good old days when ATM3.02 which was
bundled with Acrobat), then reboot, then install Distiller 3.02, then
install PDFWriter 3.03, then change the PDFWriter pdf__.ini file so that a
user doesn't need administrative privileges to use it for Capture, then
install the forms plug-ins ...... This of course is assuming that you don't
need to run the OCX plug-in for IE 4.01 while you're at it.

This is a lot of work for an Administrator trying to do a client install
for NT 4.0 (mind you service pack 3 is also necessary here if you want to
use Type 1 fonts).

 Does anyone know if Adobe is planning to bundle all of the above on 1 CD
with one NT install routine?



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>Could someone from Adobe or on the list explain the advantages of
>loading the new forms plug-in in simple terms? Is this only a web
>related benefit? From browsing the web site, it looks like the new
>plug-in would benefit web applications, but not CD related applications.
>

The Acrobat Forms update provides you with:

  Snap-to grids for aligning forms
  Rollover action on Buttons in addition to Mouse Up/Down
  Image import, submission and scaling inside Buttons
  The ability to include custom JavaScripts in a PDF file, a Link, or a Field
  JavaScripts to do field validation and calculations

This update opens a whole new side of PDF: documents that carry
intelligence. As stand-alone PDF files or incombination with a database or
web server, they create many new sets of opportunities, and make hypertext
linking more powerful as an ancillary benefit.

A quick example: you can now make a link that says print the next n pages.
And use that to set a global variable that gets used in another script! The
possibilities, because scripting is user-controlled, are endless. More
powerful custom help would be a perfect example for a CD producer.

Information on the Acrobat Forms JavaScript language are available under
Acrobat's Help menu after you install the update. It's really quite a nifty
upgrade. We'll make more examples of JavaScripts accessible from our
website as they become available.

Gary Cosimini
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>Could someone from Adobe or on the list explain the advantages of
>loading the new forms plug-in in simple terms? Is this only a web
>related benefit? From browsing the web site, it looks like the new
>plug-in would benefit web applications, but not CD related applications.

You can use a snap to grid to make the form field line up.

(that one alone is a keeper!)

You can have fields that check to see if the person filling out the form 
put a date in the field that you wanted a date in.

(validation, sum-check...in the form...off line! yes, on the CD-ROM!)

You can make a button that will run a javascript.

(imagine having the form perform a calculation on numbers you entered in 
other fields)

You can create pull down menus that hypnotise the user and then suggest 
that they send you all their worldly possessions.

(oops...okay, well, that would be in the next version that we are a beta 
site for..sorry!...no more NDAs for me I guess)

*smile*

hope that helps.

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To Tom Thiersch:
Thanks for writing.

Let me preface all this by pointing out that we are using Acrobat   
technology to produce PDF files of in-house user manuals.  We're not   
printing in color, and we're not sending anything to service bureaus.   
 For us the kind of quality provided by PDFWriter has been fine--until we   
started using Reader 3.01.

>Note the sentence "You cannot alter the downsampling resolution setting   
in
>PDF Writer."!!!
Yes, I read this and the other info. in PDFWRITR.PDF.  But, as I pointed   
out, the issue is not *altering* the downsampling resolution setting, but   
*turning it off*.  This is possible, and doing it didn't help.

>I really don't think there's much cause for complaint about PDFWriter --
My complaint is not about PDFWriter.  It's about Acrobat Reader 3.01.  We   
used PDFWriter to process hundreds of pages of files containing those   
96dpi graphics (all of which printed fine from Reader 3.0) and suddenly   
Reader 3.01 renders the graphics from these same files with very poor   
quality.

>it's very clear from the above (and from zillions of other postings on
>various lists) that you just can't expect to get decent quality images   
via
>PDFWriter.  Never have, never will.
Well, maybe so, but these zillions of postings must be well hidden,   
because I've seen very few that describe the problem we experienced.   
 (Maybe they were all written before we developed a problem, so I didn't   
see them.)  At any rate, generic warnings that PDFWriter isn't as good as   
Distiller didn't scare us since we used PDFWriter successfully for months   
to produce files with decent quality images--until we started using   
Reader 3.01.  We know now that what you say is true--at least until Adobe   
produces a version of Reader that reliably prints screen captures in   
files produced with PDFWriter to non-PostScript printers.

If "PDFWriter is really just a tool for casual drafts or text-only   
output," then the Adobe documentation should explicitly state this.  You   
might think that saying PDFWriter downsamples to <300 dpi would make this   
clear, but when working with 16-color bitmaps of screen captures, that   
resolution didn't pose us any problem--until we started using Reader   
3.01.

>This has got very little to do with NT -- the same limitations apply to   
all platforms.
I learned since writing my previous post that this is the case.  It seems   
now, after talking with a very helpful person at Adobe technical support,   
that Reader 3.01 has problems printing screen captures to PCL printers   
from files produced with PDFWriter. Our users don't have PostScript   
printers, and we can't keep them from acquiring Acrobat Reader 3.01, so   
we're abandoning PDFWriter, for now at least.

>Just use Distiller the way Adobe intended, and you will
>  a) get the results you expect for all kinds of documents, and
>  b) have a great deal more control over the process.
On this we can agree.  We were glad when PDFWriter 3.02 for NT came out,   
because it made it easier to create PDFs.  But now we see that--until   
Adobe can guarantee a PDFWriter/Reader/non-PS-printer formulation  that   
works as well as PDFWriter 3.02/Reader 3.0 did--we need to stick with   
Distiller.

Tom Campbell  
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I am reposting this as it seems somehow it didn't get to
the list. If it did, I apologize.
.............................
Greetings everyone!

Just joined the list and was told
(by Mr. Tony McKinley) that this is the
place where the experts meet!

Here's my problem:

I am trying to create PDF files that include
English, Chinese and Portuguese. No problem
with the first and last, but... Chinese is giving 
me some trouble...

I am printing from MS Word 95.

If I use PDF Writer, all characters smaller than point
16 will display with a black background (as in inverse font
effect). ALl characters greater then that, display fine!

If I use PDF Distiller, I get perfect characters up to point
15... But bigger than that... They vanish! There's only a big empty
space where the characters should be...

Anyone working with double-byte languages on the
list who might have dealt + cracked this puzzle?

In case it is relevant, here's my
setup: I am using Acrobat 3.01, Win95b aka OSR/2, on a P5 /166
machine, 128 MB RAM, 17 GB HDD. I am using TwinBridge Chinese
Partner version 4.0 for Chinese, and their fonts + Hanyi fonts.

Thank you in advance for any input on this,

Sincerely,

Joao

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If I create a PDF with both internal links and external (URL) links for
inclusion in my web site, will people who have installed just the free
Reader be able to use those links? (Does the Reader installation routine
also install the plug-ins?) Or does the person also need Exchange.

Same question, this time for forms...does the viewer need to have Exchange
installed to fill out PDF forms embedded on a web page?

And...why does the Reader app/Exchange need to be open (in the background)
when I access pages like this...I thought that's what the PDF Viewer
plug-in was for.

Thanks,
Anne-Marie

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To whom it may concern,

To clear up this situation...

There exists an incompatibility between Enfocus PitStop version 1.x and the
new Form plug-in Adobe recently released. The incompatibility was reported
to us while the Form plug-in was still in beta testing (it is mentioned in
the problem list on our web site: see item "PitStop scared from Black Dog").

When both plug-ins are installed in Exchange, Exchange crashes during
initialization. Removing one of both plug-ins resolves the problem. On the
Mac you can also resolve the problem by renaming the plug-in binary file
from "PitStop" to "aaaPitStop". This makes sure PitStop is loaded before
the Form plug-in.

We have just released a new version of Enfocus PitStop that resolves the
problem as well. Enfocus PitStop 1.5 will be available from our web site
shortly and is a free update for registered users of PitStop 1.x.

Kind regards,
David.


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Boy, have I been waiting for these features.  I just downloaded and took a fast 
look.

However, the calculations features only seems to use add, multiply, average, 
minimum and maximum functions.  I must be missing something: why no subtract 
and divide?

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Elissa,

The forms filler (fill32us.exe) is for READER, the forms maker 
(make32us.exe) is for EXCHANGE. If you inadvertently install forms filler 
in your exchange directory your Form Tool will disappear. Don't despair 
(and don't re-load Acrobat 3.0). Just re-install forms makers 
(make32us.exe) and your Form Tool will re-appear.

lori

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On Thursday, January 29, 1998 6:27 PM, Elissa Sampson 
[SMTP:esampson@metlife.com] wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if the newly available forms filler (fill32us.exe) 
plug-in
> from the Adobe web site should be run only if Reader 3.01 (and not 
Exchange
> 3.01) is installed?
>
> I have the impression (which may be erroneous) that If Exchange 3.01 is
> also on a workstation it looks like the plug-in perhaps mistakenly goes 
and
> installs under Exchange (rather than Reader).
>
>
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>(make32us.exe) is for EXCHANGE. If you inadvertently install forms filler

Where is the Macintosh plug-in (or should I say when)?

/jonathan

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>Where is the Macintosh plug-in (or should I say when)?
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from this week's Emerge EXTRA newsletter --->

The AcroForm  and AcroFill files are now available for downloading directly
from Adobe's FTP site, or via its web site. If you have trouble, try adding
the number 1, 2 or 3 in the front part of the URL -- i.e.
ftp1.adobe.com/..., ftp2.adobe.com/... or ftp3.adobe.com/... -- to select a
specific file server.

-- MORE@ -->

WEB: Adobe Acrobat Form Update
(http://www.adobe.com/newsfeatures/acrforms/main.html)


WEB: URLs for downloading the two new files (note various languages)

**MAC

ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatexchange/mac/3.x/plugins/acroform.sit.hqx (
5.9 MB)
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/mac/3.x/plugins/acrofill.sit.hqx
(2.0 MB)
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/mac/3.x/ardr30aj.bin
(7.3 MB)
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/mac/3.x/ardr30aj.sit.hqx
(9.8 MB)

**WIN

(all approx. 2.7 MB)
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatexchange/win/3.x/plugins/make32de.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatexchange/win/3.x/plugins/make32es.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatexchange/win/3.x/plugins/make32fr.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatexchange/win/3.x/plugins/make32it.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatexchange/win/3.x/plugins/make32nl.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatexchange/win/3.x/plugins/make32sv.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatexchange/win/3.x/plugins/make32us.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/plugins/fillerde.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/plugins/filleres.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/plugins/fillerfr.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/plugins/fillerit.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/plugins/fillernl.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/plugins/fillersv.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/plugins/fillerus.exe
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/ar32j30a.exe
(6.8 MB)

**UNIX

ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/3.x/plugins/fillerus.tar.Z
(4.7 MB)

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After much effot and research, I turn to the PDF Professionals for advice. 
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Duff

In your reply to Nic you mentioned under general guidelines:

--Avoid TT fonts in general, if possible.
--Use Distiller rather than PDFwriter to create your files

It can be argued that PDFwriter is a much more efficient way to create PDF 
- especially for what I call "boring" business documents which use TT fonts 
- as they all do when created from MS Word and the like!

Personally I find Distiller a pain! It takes longer and, in my opinion 
frequently produces "worse" PDF from the MS Word documents I prepare.

We are in the Document Management business and are not primarily concerned 
with highly graphical or colourful "design" documents. Its normally the 
"life blood" of daily life - procedures, operating instructions, 
specifications, reports, manufacturing instructions, Health & Safety 
documents, scanned third party instruction sheets, etc. We advise PDFwriter 
for "standard" business documents (which may include simple logos, etc) and 
Distiller for more complex graphical documents (which tend to get 
originated in single departments - such as marketing)

If anyone has prepared any guidelines in this respect or if would like to 
comment I am keen to increase my understanding in this area.

Thanks

drc
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I reviewed the documentation for the new forms features and it looks
impressive. Would it be possible to create a field (drop down, fill in,
etc.) where the user could select or add data, then using the JavaScript
feature, send this data to the Search Engine, thus bypassing the search
dialog by using forms placed on a page?


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David:

I hear your points re PDFWriter, however I'd add the following....

1)	Distiller Assistant (admittedly, when properly configured) is just
about as easy as PDFWriter for a simple print-to-PDF action.

2)	Files produced with Distiller are frequently (in our experience,
almost always) substantially smaller, and perform on-screen far better,
than PDFWriter-created PDF.  A questionaire we recently recieved from
Adobe (for example), a simple 7 page text-only letter, was made using
PDFWriter and was 330k when it arrived!  After reprocessing through
Distiller, I returned a completed survey of about 50k....after adding
about 60 annotations....

There is, of course, the searchability issue as well.

David Cornwell wrote:
> 
> Duff
> 
> In your reply to Nic you mentioned under general guidelines:
> 
> --Avoid TT fonts in general, if possible.
> --Use Distiller rather than PDFwriter to create your files
> 
> It can be argued that PDFwriter is a much more efficient way to create PDF
> - especially for what I call "boring" business documents which use TT fonts
> - as they all do when created from MS Word and the like!
> 
> Personally I find Distiller a pain! It takes longer and, in my opinion
> frequently produces "worse" PDF from the MS Word documents I prepare.
> 
> We are in the Document Management business and are not primarily concerned
> with highly graphical or colourful "design" documents. Its normally the
> "life blood" of daily life - procedures, operating instructions,
> specifications, reports, manufacturing instructions, Health & Safety
> documents, scanned third party instruction sheets, etc. We advise PDFwriter
> for "standard" business documents (which may include simple logos, etc) and
> Distiller for more complex graphical documents (which tend to get
> originated in single departments - such as marketing)
> 
> If anyone has prepared any guidelines in this respect or if would like to
> comment I am keen to increase my understanding in this area.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> drc
> ---
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> Computerised Document Control Ltd
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> Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817
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Listers,

There is a peculiar problem with my IE3.0 browser and Acrobat.

I don't have any problems with viewing and printing PDF docs from the
web in my IE browser. However, when I quit the browser, my Exchange
window is still open. Is there a way to instruct IE to shut down
Exchange when it shuts down?

 I suspect it may be akin to the same command which opens Exchange, but
am not sure. 

Thanks in advance.

Doug Moody
New-Breed Corporations
dmoody@new-breed.com
336-218-7535 x43

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Unfortunately, this side-effect remains even with the latest versions of
browsers and Acrobat (e.g., MS IE 4.01 and Acrobat Reader 3.01 or Acrobat
Exchange 3.0).

Do any other web browser plug-ins have this problem, or is this just an
Adobe issue?

Tom Thiersch


At 10:04 AM 1/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Listers,
>
>There is a peculiar problem with my IE3.0 browser and Acrobat.
>
>I don't have any problems with viewing and printing PDF docs from the
>web in my IE browser. However, when I quit the browser, my Exchange
>window is still open. Is there a way to instruct IE to shut down
>Exchange when it shuts down?
>
> I suspect it may be akin to the same command which opens Exchange, but
>am not sure. 
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Doug Moody
>New-Breed Corporations
>dmoody@new-breed.com
>336-218-7535 x43
>
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I have created a PDF file from a Word document using PDFMaker.  I set
the PDFMaker preferences Document Open options to include:
Magnification - Full page.  When the document is opened, it displays the
full page.  Using keyboard page down/up and the Acrobat paging buttons,
the full page is still displayed.  However, once I have used a bookmark
or internal link to go to another page, the full page is no longer
displayed.  I have set the PDF File - Preferences to include the
Manification default - Full page.  No luck.  
Can someone please explain?  I am using Acrobat Exchange 3.01 for
Windows 95.  I have verified that this problem occurs when I view the
file in Exchange and Reader.
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I just switched over to ATM Deluxe as my font activation utility on my PMac running 7.6.1. After installing ATM Deluxe and Type Reunion Deluxe, I noticed more font choices in the font popup menu when defining a text field in Exchange 3.0.1. I don't know what the new possibilities are here for sure; there's definitely more fonts available and even in submenus. Maybe it's just an illusion and won't really work with other than base13. Does anyone know for sure if there's added benefit here? Gary?

TIA 
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Is it possible to pre-view pdf's without having to open the file, ala word
file searching?  We want to review the title of the file but are trying to
avoid having to open and close each file.

Also, after distilling a word file, the resulting pdf is fuzzy on the
screen.  Is this a computer issue or the file?

Thank you

Steve Aparicio
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Matt,

What application creates the PS file..and what are the Document or Page 
Set-up and Print settings?

>After much effot and research, I turn to the PDF Professionals for advice. 
>I am trying to Print one pdf page, 2-up on 11x17 (obviously 1-8.5 x 11 page
>x 2).

<--snip-->

>This will be my primary use for Acrobat, for now, and i
>can run a much more efficient print sho this way.  Please help, i am not a
>PDF Pro, but need to rely on your expertise




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Steve,

re: >Also, after distilling a word file, the resulting pdf is fuzzy on the
>screen.  Is this a computer issue or the file?

You need to turn OFF the "font smoothing" option (see Acrobat
File>Preferences>General) to eliminate this problem.

Tom Thiersch

At 12:55 PM 1/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Is it possible to pre-view pdf's without having to open the file, ala word
>file searching?  We want to review the title of the file but are trying to
>avoid having to open and close each file.
>
>Also, after distilling a word file, the resulting pdf is fuzzy on the
>screen.  Is this a computer issue or the file?
>
>Thank you
>
>Steve Aparicio
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I just heard that there is a new point-release of Distiller, version
3.02 and "that it works much better" for the person who mentioned it.

Some questions:

1) Is there a new release of Distiller that is newer than the general
Acrobat 3.01 point release of last year?

2) Has there been a 3.02 point release of the entire Acrobat suite?

3) If there were a point-release for a single product, how would I
become aware of it (outside of screening this list 8-) ) and how would I
get it... assuming of course that I am a licensed user of the product. I
realize that I should receive notification of regular new releases of
Acrobat as part of my subscription service, but this alleged 3.02
release of Distiller is something I've not heard of and don't know --if
true-- that I would be notified as a subscription service recipient.

-Bob Boeri
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Does anyone know a way to automate the creation of PDF files from MS
Word (Office 97) documents? I am aware of course that one can set up
watched directories of PS files for Distiller. This would be different,
a batch processing of MS Word documents.

Thanks!

-Bob Boeri
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Tom,

>I learned since writing my previous post that this is the case.  It seems   
>now, after talking with a very helpful person at Adobe technical support,   
>that Reader 3.01 has problems printing screen captures to PCL printers   
>from files produced with PDFWriter.

I must say, when something works splendidly one day, and then when the 
"new improved" version breaks something, I would tend to ask the 
questions you are asking...to Adobe.

> Our users don't have PostScript   
>printers, and we can't keep them from acquiring Acrobat Reader 3.01, so   
>we're abandoning PDFWriter, for now at least.

I think that although using Type 1 fonts & creating PostScript to send 
through Acrobat Distiller is the best of class solution, I think you 
might find that Adobe probably needs to fix something...I mean, it simply 
makes little sence to me that an older version works better than this 
newer one, especially on the same PDF files.

Sorry you feel flamed, but many of us who are getting PDF to be reliable 
have discovered that if we stick to PostScript and Type 1 fonts, we get 
reliable results. Best of luck!


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Bob

We have a tool called Local Render which does this. It creates intelligent 
PDF through either PDFwriter or Distiller and may be operated in batch mode 
from either within MS Word or from an external application. It is 
integrated into Documentum "off-the-shelf".

For more information please contact me direct or view our web site: 
www.docctrl.com

Regards

drc
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Does anyone know a way to automate the creation of PDF files from MS
Word (Office 97) documents? I am aware of course that one can set up
watched directories of PS files for Distiller. This would be different,
a batch processing of MS Word documents.

Thanks!

-Bob Boeri
Factory Mutual


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Sounds like the links themselves are not set to the magnification "Inherit Zoom".

Chris Lane
Computer Multimedia Productions Corp.

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Goldin, Susan wrote:
> 
> I have created a PDF file from a Word document using PDFMaker.  I set
> the PDFMaker preferences Document Open options to include:
> Magnification - Full page.  When the document is opened, it displays the
> full page.  Using keyboard page down/up and the Acrobat paging buttons,
> the full page is still displayed.  However, once I have used a bookmark
> or internal link to go to another page, the full page is no longer
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Does anyone know if there is a plug-in that allows an Acrobat user to
flip a page? I'm not talking about rotating here, but flipping as though
you had turned the page over on its face either horizontally or
vertically. The purpose would be to correctly display a image that had
been scanned in from transparent media (like a 35mm slide or an x-ray
film) with the media flipped the wrong way in the scanner.
--
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I want to post several hundred PDF files to a corporate intranet, and I
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I am exasperated by an error message that I just can't seem to get
past.  I created a series of PDF documents which all use the index,
"foamdex".   Using Exchange, I specified that index as the one to use on
every one of the files, and saved each one.  Then, when I reload the
files, I get an error saying "the index associated with this document is
not available."

I just can't seem to get past this!

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John,

Oof!

That one might be tricky. I just tried this using an Plug-In called 
PitStop.

www.enfocus.com or www.enfocus.be

here is what I did...

I clicked over the PitStop wrench button, which opens the PDF in a new 
window
I select the image (or object) I want to "flip" (just like you mean, or 
"flop")
In the PitStop menu, I selected "Inspectors"
I then select "Graphic Inspectors"
Ithen cascade over to "Position"
There is a little icon in this dialog box that has small arrows that look 
a little like this:

<-|->

Wa-La. FLOP, FLOP (FIZZ, FIZZ - o - what a relief it is...!)

Then I got an error when I saved...but I am running a bazzilion alpha 
Plug-ins, so I won't blame the good people at EnFocus.

So unless Peter Camps peter@enfocus.be or David van Driessche, 
david@enfocus.be says I am confused...I would say this gadget and flip 
flop yourself (or images) silly!

>Does anyone know if there is a plug-in that allows an Acrobat user to
>flip a page? I'm not talking about rotating here, but flipping as though
>you had turned the page over on its face either horizontally or
>vertically. The purpose would be to correctly display a image that had
>been scanned in from transparent media (like a 35mm slide or an x-ray
>film) with the media flipped the wrong way in the scanner.


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Elissa,

The filler Installer does first look for Exchange, but you can manually
change the installation directory to the Reader. The only condition is that
you are using Reader 3.01. The installation then goes smoothly (veryfied on
at least two systems).

Hope, this can help.


Max Wyss
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>Does anyone know if the newly available forms filler (fill32us.exe) plug-in
>from the Adobe web site should be run only if Reader 3.01 (and not Exchange
>3.01) is installed?
>
>I have the impression (which may be erroneous) that If Exchange 3.01 is
>also on a workstation it looks like the plug-in perhaps mistakenly goes and
>installs under Exchange (rather than Reader).
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Twin Bridges only supports TrueType fonts. You may have more luck with a
Type1 Chinese font program instead.



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I am reposting this as it seems somehow it didn't get to
the list. If it did, I apologize.
.............................
Greetings everyone!
Just joined the list and was told
(by Mr. Tony McKinley) that this is the
place where the experts meet!
Here's my problem:
I am trying to create PDF files that include
English, Chinese and Portuguese. No problem
with the first and last, but... Chinese is giving
me some trouble...
I am printing from MS Word 95.
If I use PDF Writer, all characters smaller than point
16 will display with a black background (as in inverse font
effect). ALl characters greater then that, display fine!
If I use PDF Distiller, I get perfect characters up to point
15... But bigger than that... They vanish! There's only a big empty
space where the characters should be...
Anyone working with double-byte languages on the
list who might have dealt + cracked this puzzle?
In case it is relevant, here's my
setup: I am using Acrobat 3.01, Win95b aka OSR/2, on a P5 /166
machine, 128 MB RAM, 17 GB HDD. I am using TwinBridge Chinese
Partner version 4.0 for Chinese, and their fonts + Hanyi fonts.
Thank you in advance for any input on this,
Sincerely,
Joao
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Steve,

of course, it is possible to divide and to subtract; even trignoometric
functions are possible. In fact, you do have all the mathematical functions
which are available in JavaScript 1.2.

Check the JavaScript Specification.

Hope, this can help.


Max Wyss
PRODOK Engineering AG
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>Boy, have I been waiting for these features.  I just downloaded and took a
>fast
>look.
>
>However, the calculations features only seems to use add, multiply, average,
>minimum and maximum functions.  I must be missing something: why no subtract
>and divide?
>
>Steve Derene


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Anne-Marie,

the reader installation does not automatically install the plug-in in your
Browser Plug-in directory. In the Reader directory, you will find a
subdirectory named "Browser". From there you'd have to copy the plug-in
into the plug-in directory of your browser. Check the Read Me file for
details.

To fill out forms, the reader should be sufficient. However, I just noticed
some flaws with the HP-UNIX version of the Acrobat Forms plug-in, which had
certain quirks under Netscape Navigator. To make use of the new Acrobat
Forms plug-in, you will need Reader 3.01.

The Acrobat "engine" is in the application, and not in the plug-in.
Therefore, you will need the engine running in order to access it...

Hope, this can help.


Max Wyss
PRODOK Engineering AG
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>If I create a PDF with both internal links and external (URL) links for
>inclusion in my web site, will people who have installed just the free
>Reader be able to use those links? (Does the Reader installation routine
>also install the plug-ins?) Or does the person also need Exchange.
>
>Same question, this time for forms...does the viewer need to have Exchange
>installed to fill out PDF forms embedded on a web page?
>
>And...why does the Reader app/Exchange need to be open (in the background)
>when I access pages like this...I thought that's what the PDF Viewer
>plug-in was for.
>
>Thanks,
>Anne-Marie
>
>-------------------------------------
>Anne-Marie "Her Geekness" Concepcion is owner of
>Seneca Design & Consulting, Inc. in  Chicago, Illinois.
>SD&C supports design & publishing networks and the
>people who staff them: <http://www.senecadesign.com>
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We have also found the same: use Distiller, and not PDF
Writer.

However, we have recently found something interesting with
the current versions of Distiller (3.02), Adobe PS driver
(4.2.3.), and PDFWriter (3.02).

For one of our projects, our client needs to usually print
to PCL printers (HP)--only a very few Postscript printers at
their location. When we scan primarily text documents (image
only) and move them into PDF for onscreen viewing and
printing to paper, the print quality is terrible when we
create the PDF file with Distiller (text has the jaggies),
but is just fine when we use PDF Writer. (On a postscript
printer quality is the same from both PDF Writer and
Distiller.)

We scan at 300 dpi, and changing compression and
downsampling in Distiller doesn't seem to make any
difference. Also, changing graphic options in the PCL
printer driver (when printing to paper) doesn't make any
difference.

We would rather use Distiller, but can't.

BTW, when we use PDFWriter, it chokes when the image file is
larger than around 150 pages, so we have to break the image
file into smaller pieces--a pain to be sure, but we need the
better quality PCL output.

Rich George, MD
enVision Sciences, LLC
rgeorge@envisionsci.com
Web site: http://www.envisionsci.com

>>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:02:33 -0800
>>From: Tom Thiersch <thiersch@env-sol.com>
>>Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem printing BMPs to non-PostScript
>>
>>, ,
>>
>>Note the sentence "You cannot alter the downsampling
resolution setting in
>>PDF Writer."!!!
>>
>>I really don't think there's much cause for complaint
about PDFWriter --
>>it's very clear from the above (and from zillions of other
postings on
>>various lists) that you just can't expect to get decent
quality images via
>>PDFWriter.  Never have, never will.
>>
>>PDFWriter is really just a tool for casual drafts or
text-only output.  This
>>has got very little to do with NT -- the same limitations
apply to all
>>platforms.  Note: I'm not defending Adobe's delays in
getting NT-compatible
>>products to market -- I've been among the many to complain
about this in the
>>past.
>>
>>Just use Distiller the way Adobe intended, and you will
>>  a) get the results you expect for all kinds of
documents, and
>>  b) have a great deal more control over the process.
>>
>>Good luck!
>>
>>Tom Thiersch



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Mark,

the official description of the Acrobat Forms plug-in can be found on
Adobe's website. Right now, there is even a link from the home page.

For CD based applications, the main advantage is that you now can access to
JavaScript from your form fields. This means, you can format, validate and
calculate form field contents. Formatting allows, for example, a consistent
representation of dates, or of currency. Validating allows to check whether
the entered values are "legal", such as a date, or within a certain value
range. Calculating allows - what it says - to calculate values based on
(entered) other field values. One example is the sum of several field
values.

I am currently working on an electronic catalog on CD which makes extensive
use of form fields, and I am now gradually discovering possibilities for a
next issue, which would have even more customer benefit. It is a technical
catalog, in a field where calculations are needed to do serious product
evaluation. So, for me, the new functionalities are VERY important.

Just my 2 Rappen.


Max Wyss
PRODOK Engineering AG
Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing
CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland

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>Could someone from Adobe or on the list explain the advantages of
>loading the new forms plug-in in simple terms? Is this only a web
>related benefit? From browsing the web site, it looks like the new
>plug-in would benefit web applications, but not CD related applications.
>
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We have also found the same: use Distiller, and not PDF
Writer.

However, we have recently found something interesting with
the current versions of Distiller (3.02), Adobe PS driver
(4.2.3.), and PDFWriter (3.02).

For one of our projects, our client needs to usually print
to PCL printers (HP)--only a very few Postscript printers at
their location. When we scan primarily text documents (image
only) and move them into PDF for onscreen viewing and
printing to paper, the print quality is terrible when we
create the PDF file with Distiller (text has the jaggies),
but is just fine when we use PDF Writer. (On a postscript
printer quality is the same from both PDF Writer and
Distiller.)

We scan at 300 dpi, and changing compression and
downsampling in Distiller doesn't seem to make any
difference. Also, changing graphic options in the PCL
printer driver (when printing to paper) doesn't make any
difference.

We would rather use Distiller, but can't.

BTW, when we use PDFWriter, it chokes when the image file is
larger than around 150 pages, so we have to break the image
file into smaller pieces--a pain to be sure, but we need the
better quality PCL output.

Rich George, MD
enVision Sciences, LLC
rgeorge@envisionsci.com
Web site: http://www.envisionsci.com

>>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:02:33 -0800
>>From: Tom Thiersch <thiersch@env-sol.com>
>>Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem printing BMPs to non-PostScript
>>
>>, ,
>>
>>Note the sentence "You cannot alter the downsampling
resolution setting in
>>PDF Writer."!!!
>>
>>I really don't think there's much cause for complaint
about PDFWriter --
>>it's very clear from the above (and from zillions of other
postings on
>>various lists) that you just can't expect to get decent
quality images via
>>PDFWriter.  Never have, never will.
>>
>>PDFWriter is really just a tool for casual drafts or
text-only output.  This
>>has got very little to do with NT -- the same limitations
apply to all
>>platforms.  Note: I'm not defending Adobe's delays in
getting NT-compatible
>>products to market -- I've been among the many to complain
about this in the
>>past.
>>
>>Just use Distiller the way Adobe intended, and you will
>>  a) get the results you expect for all kinds of
documents, and
>>  b) have a great deal more control over the process.
>>
>>Good luck!
>>
>>Tom Thiersch



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Hi,

Forgot to explicitely give you the Url.  You can get there by going to 
e-calculus or Algebra Review, referenced below.

dps

Dr. D. P. Story
Department of Mathematical Sciences
The University of Akron
Akron, OH  44325

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Home of ...

e-Calculus: A Calculus I Tutorial on the WeB.
Written in TeX and converted to the PDF format.
See it at http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html

and of ...

An Algebra Review in 10 Lessons
TeX to PDF
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Hi All;

Just uploaded a new version of "Algeboard".  This new version uses 
Forms 3.5 with JavaScript programming.  In this version, your score is 
tallied as you answer the questions.  It is worthwhile to note that 
this version of Algeboard, in addition to having more bells and 
whistles, is 25k smaller in size than the original Algeboard...and I 
think additional efficiencies will get it down even more.

Please e-mail me if there are any problems.

dps

Dr. D. P. Story
Department of Mathematical Sciences
The University of Akron
Akron, OH  44325

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     There are 2 kind of search engines: the payable or free ones
     
     - The payable ones: Verity, Fulcrum, .. and some others. You can go to 
     their Website to see what they do
     
     - The free ones: As far as I  know there are only two
        . SearchPDF from Verity which works with Acrobat Catalog and allow 
     searching PDF and only PDF - Besides it is not customisable. I stopped 
     using this one on my WinNT server. I heard there is also a version for 
     Unix
        . Microsoft IndexServer & Adobe Ifilter which allow searching 
     different file formats - you don't need Catalog - I prefer this one
     you can customise your result page and some other stuff. 
     It requires Windows NT 4
     
     Marc Medjad
     
     
     
     >- - are pdf documents searchable by conventional search engines as is 
     >or do they have to be stored in say ASCII format (which I think is an
     >option from Distiller)
     >- - does Catalog have to be used and if so what does it do that can't 
     >be done by something else?
     >- - are there particular search engines that work better or are 
     >better
     >integrated  with searching acrobat (and the other types of 
     )documents?
     >- - what issues affect how these things are set up e.g. platform/OS 
     >or way in which the acrobat files are prepared which make life 
     >easier,more difficult or impossible?

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