1-Apr-1998 7:37:39-GMT,2779;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01101 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:37:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA21448; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:17:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:13:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21326; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:13:51 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5D46.A626DAA0.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Digital Signatures Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:16:16 +0100 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Check out www.penop.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: John L. Jones [SMTP:jjones@bookends.com] Sent: 31 March 1998 23:29 To: pdf-l@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Digital Signatures Does anyone know of a plug-in that will allow a pdf file to be signed with a digital signature so that the file can later be authenticated by a digital certificate, preferably RSA variety signatures and X509 certificates? Ideally this solution would enable signing of the text and image layers, and possibly the index fields, but leave the balance of the pdf document alone to enable watermarking, annotations, etc. The point is to the sign the basic document in a way that the signer's identity and the document authentication can be proven. John L. Jones Arion Zoe Corp. E-mail: jjones@bookends.com Voice: (813) 254-0055 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 10:31:04-GMT,3957;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18698 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:31:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA25575; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:57:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:48:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25329; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:48:13 -0600 Message-Id: <98Apr1.104953gmt+0100.22406-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick WOLF To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:55:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA25326 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have found the solution by visiting the web site of Adobe (www.adobe.com). IE4 needs a new version of the Acrobat ocx, which is available on the site of Adobe. Here is what Adobe says about it. ---- Adobe Acrobat Control for ActiveX Update If you recently upgraded to Microsoft(R) Internet Explorer 4.0, you will need to update your system with the latest ActiveX Control for Adobe(R) Acrobat(R) in order to enable PDF Search highlighting and page-at-a-time downloading (byteserving) of multipage PDF files, and to view PDF files within your browser. If you are using Internet Explorer 3.0, 3.1, or 3.02, and you previously downloaded Adobe Acrobat Reader, you do not need this update; the ActiveX Control for those versions was automatically installed with the Acrobat Reader download. However, this new update is compatible with Internet Explorer versions earlier than 4.0. The Control for ActiveX Update works with Adobe Acrobat versions 3.0 and later, in all languages. ------- Hope it can helps other people... Thanks to Anthony Lam from Adobe who gives the same answer. Have some fun! Yannick Wolf CD-ROM Development Basler Zeitung AG y.wolf@baz.ch >[Wolf Yannick] From: Yannick WOLF >To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" >Subject: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs >Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:06:52 +0100 >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA15414 >Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > >Hi all, > >We are attempting to implement Byteserving on our web server Apache 1.2.5, in order to byteserve some of our pdf docs. >We are using the version 3.01 of the Acrobat Reader, and our pdf files are optimized. My PC runs under NT4 , SP3. > >It works quite good when we use Netscape 4.03 ( multiple GET, "small" dowmloaded chunks). Impressive !!! > >BUT with IE 4.0 (version 4.72.2106.8), byteserving doen't work ! It downloads 2 small chunks of 8192 bits, and then the rest of the file (which can be realy huge)! > >What do I wrong? Is there something special to define for Internet Explorer? > >Can anybody shed light on this with a few hints on how to get this to work? > >Regards, > > >Yannick Wolf >CD-ROM Development >Basler Zeitung >y.wolf@baz.ch > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 11:12:07-GMT,1526;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA19603 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:12:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA26907; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:46:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:42:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26785; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:42:20 -0600 Message-Id: <199804011043.UAA17939@magna.com.au> X-Sender: larke@magna.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:35:17 +1000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Annette Larke Subject: [PDF] Copying of links to multiple pages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear all, Does anyone know if there is a plugin which allows you to duplicate links to all pages in a document - the same way buttons are duplicated? Regards, Annette Larke Larke Services Pty LTd URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 13:56:58-GMT,6951;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23119 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:56:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA31496; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:25:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:21:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31349; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:21:57 -0600 Message-ID: <35223F4A.5B54@acm.org> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:21:14 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf amd sgml - Archive reply Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 98 09:08:09 -0500 > From: kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com > Subject: [PDF] pdf and sgml > > Does anyone have any good information on sgml files? I am in the process of > putting documentation on CD and on the Internet and am struggling with which > road I should take - .pdf files or .sgml files. Does anyone know any of the pros > and cons of each of them? > > Thank you. Kelly - As a subsequent post suggested, this topic was covered in a slightly different flavor about two weeks ago. This is my post from that round. Hope it helps, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== Subject: RE: [PDF] SGML vs PDF Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:03:56 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Poe" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: ort@bergersen.no > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 12:26:53 -0000 > From: Richard Taubo > Subject: [PDF] SGML vs PDF > > Hi all! > > To have answers ready when my customers ask, I am wondering how the > current trend is in the US when it comes to SGML and PDF publishing: Do > people tend to use PDF or SGML for publishing manuals for internal and > external use? What about general publishing on intranets etc.? Which > markets are dominated by PDF and which markets are dominated by SGML? > I hope someone can provide some valuable information here. I am more > interested in the current trend people are facing than my specific > questions. > > Any input would be useful:) > > Regards, > Richard Taubo > Bergersen -- Norway Richard - (Please pardon me if I get pedantic. Being in Management now, I so rarely get to be pedantic anymore... :-) ) The question you ask is really an inappropriate comparison but is common in the marketplace because most vendors don't make any distinction. SGML is a (very pure) form of what is known as 'revisable-format-text' (RFT, not to be confused with MicroSoft's 'RTF'). RFT is a format within which the text is marked up with tags indicating its context, not its formatting. For example, the start of a new paragraph is marked up with a 'new paragraph' tag (e.g.,

in HTML, '/p' in RTF). A new chapter heading is marked with a 'new chapter' tag (i.e.,

in HTML, ':h1.' in IBM's GML). Tags indicate context, not how to format the context. For a new chapter header, you don't know how much space to allow before or after, whether to use a page break (or a break to an odd-numbered page), or what font and point size to set the header text in. You only know that you're starting a new chapter, and what the chapter title is. Examples of RFT are SGML, HTML (or at least HTML 3.2, the IE and Netscape extensions frequently violate this philosophy), IBM's GML and BookMaster, Xerox's XICS (I haven't had a chance to review DSC's Compuset to know if they kept it as a RFT format), and MS's RTF (although RTF does have some limited formatting specifications). PDF is a version of 'final-format-text' (FFT). FFT is a format within which the text has already been formatted (or composed) for the page. All decisions such as line and page breaks, point sizes, and placement on the page have already been made. All context-related information has been removed (and results in a loss of information). Only formatting commands remain. Examples of FFT are IBM's AFP, Xerox's Metacode, and Adobe's PDF. Each are appropriate for their own areas, but they are not mutually exclusive. Typically documents are created in an RFT format and transformed into an FFT format prior to display or print. You can create and store documents in SGML and then convert them to PDF. SGML is a format for the creation, storage, and structured retrieval of documents, not for their display or printing. PDF is a format for the storage, viewing, and printing of document, but typically not for their initial creation (not too many people create directly in PDF - otherwise we wouldn't need Distiller and the PDFWriter). Which is best? It depends on the business needs of the applications you are working on. For example: If you needed to do a very structured retrieval of information (e.g., give me all the reports written by 'Poe' whose first draft was between Jan. 97 and March 97 and which have 'SGML' and 'PDF' in the abstract), you would want to use SGML to create and store the documents. Not to view or print the documents - SGML doesn't view or print by itself (unless you view the source code). You'd need some formatting process to view or print the SGML documents. If you needed to produce and distribute documents that retained very close to the exact same fidelity everywhere (including line and page breaks, pagination, and font characteristics (such requirements are common in heavily regulated industries in the US such as the financial and insurance industries)), you'd use PDF for distribution. But you'd still have to have some process (and format) to create the original documents. In terms of market domination, there isn't much by either side. SGML has made strong inroads into some very specialized information areas (Commercial Aircraft documents, academic text studies, and Department of Defense documentation are three which come to mind). PDF is growing in many areas but is still regarded as primarily a PC-based format (although that is changing). Hope this helps, Stephen +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 14:06:44-GMT,3379;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23384 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:06:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA32110; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:41:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:39:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32016; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:39:29 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <412565D9.0050999A.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:40:23 +0100 Subject: [PDF] still TTF problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, Same problem with TTFonts as ever. But now I know its a PS-driver problem. We use the Acrobat 3.0 package for Win95. Our company's standard font is a True Type Font called Frutiger Roman wich does not belong to the 13 standard fonts. Usually we have Word documents using that TTfont, print them to a PS-File (using AdobePS 4.1 or 4.23) and convert them with Distiller 3.0 (or 3.02). Opening the PDF-document, there remain two problems: 1) Searching for text is always unsuccessful. 2) TouchUp tool cannot make changes. The errormessage tells me that my font is only a fontsubset (independent of Distiller's settings) Then I found out some couriuos things: 1) When I mark a textpassage and copy&paste it to an ASCII editor, there is a completly other text. But when I search in the PDF-doc for a textpassage I found in my ASCII-editor it returns its PDF counterpath. 2) When I look up the menue File->DocInfo->Fonts the font used is not Frutiger Roman (as in Word) but called something like MSTTc1034r4. I found out, that this is a font generated by the AdobePS-driver. Moreover, when creating the PS-file the substitution of Frutiger to MSTTc1034r4 has already begun. When I look in the PS-source both names show up, but Distiller takes the wrong name. I cannot tell Distiller to "never / ever embed" Frutiger, because Distiller works with the wrong fontname MSTT... I asked around on this mailinglist and got the tip to use Adobe Type Manager Deluxe and ordered a PS-Font version from our Frutiger TTFont.It seems to work. Now I can tell in the PS-printer menue to replace Frutiger TTF by its PS Version. But this means that I have to buy a 100DM ATM license for ALL Acrobat Exchange licences just to fix a bug in Adobe's Software. Furthermore I would prefere another solution: We dont have any trouble with the 13 standard fonts like Helvetica. I recognized that those fonts are told the PS-driver as in Printer-ROM. In this case its a vritual ROM: the font folder. Then I can tell the PS-driver to replace Arial by this Helvetica version. How can I add a 14th font, wich is out PS-Version of Frutiger? Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 14:33:37-GMT,2925;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24203 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:33:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA00371; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:05:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:02:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00244; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:02:34 -0600 X-Sender: rbroome@mail.psislidell.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9803308912.AA891266902@deltahealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:10:20 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Robert Broome Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and sgml Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Does anyone have any good information on sgml files? I am in the process of >putting documentation on CD and on the Internet and am struggling with which >road I should take - .pdf files or .sgml files. Does anyone know any of >the pros >and cons of each of them? > >Thank you. > > I may be able to help. We are working on a large SGML project and are planning a PDF project. The main practical difference is up front costs. PDF files are *much* easier (read cheaper) to produce, SGML files will be much more thourogh and more complete. You will be able to repurpose, maintain, and QC your SGML files much better than the equivelent PDF files. But in the end, you will need to make PDF files for your CD in either case. While SGML is a universal standard, the styling methods are not. The deciding issue is whether you plan to use or maintain these files over and over. If yes, in the *long* run SGML is cheaper and better. If no, PDF is the best way to go. Remember, SGML is not a display method. The documents won't look like anything you want to see by themselves. After you tag your documents then you go through and style them so that they are presentable. Since in practice this takes at least two trys-that is 4 runs per document. But when you are finished you have a well QCed product that will be much more maintainable than any word processing file. Now, if one of your choices is HTML, then XML is detinitely the way to go. It is the best of all three worlds (SGML, HTML, PDF). But it is brand new and there are few tools yet-but all the toolmakers are working furiously to support XML as soon as possible. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 15:35:13-GMT,2005;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26437 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:35:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03346; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:03:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:00:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03172; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:00:31 -0600 Message-ID: <352256F1.6374C183@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 10:02:09 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and sgml References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Robert Broome wrote: > > [...] in the end, you will need to make PDF files for your CD in > either case. No. There are SGML-based solutions that effectively compete with PDF for document delivery via CD-ROM. The first that comes to mind is Inso DynaText. > Now, if one of your choices is HTML, then XML is detinitely the way to go. > It is the best of all three worlds (SGML, HTML, PDF). How do you mean? I think it is wrong to present XML as a combination of content storage (SGML) and presentation (HTML, PDF) technologies. XML specifies nothing more about style (display) than does SGML--that is indeed its strength. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 16:21:38-GMT,2739;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28419 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:21:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05979; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:53:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:51:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05814; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:51:08 -0600 X-Sender: dstabb@mail.pit-magnus.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <352256F1.6374C183@beacon.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:01:34 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "David Stabb" Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and sgml Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory Snavely writes to Robert Broome: >> Now, if one of your choices is HTML, then XML is detinitely the way to go. >> It is the best of all three worlds (SGML, HTML, PDF). > >How do you mean? I think it is wrong to present XML as a combination of >content >storage (SGML) and presentation (HTML, PDF) technologies. XML specifies >nothing >more about style (display) than does SGML--that is indeed its strength. You are correct in that XML should not be presented as a combination of the technologies under examination. Note that XML is closely related to SGML, and any SGML document is XML compliant. XML removes the most technically challenging 10% or so from the SGML standard and introduces several new concepts such as "well-formed" documents as opposed to the higher standard of "parsed SGML". The broader XML standard does, however addrerss style and formatting issues by means of XSL, or eXtensible Style Language. XSL is a subset of DSSSL, the comprehensive but seldom implemented style sheet specification. As a jump point for XML/XSL/SGML issues is the Oasis (formerly SGML-Open) home pages. The URL was www.sgmlopen.com, which I think still works. ____|)avid / Progressive Information Technologies David Stabb / 315 Busser Road Director, New Media & / Emigsville, PA 17318 Electronic Products / Information Architects for Publishing +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 17:17:41-GMT,2696;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00651 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:17:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08440; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:39:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:37:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08335; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:37:41 -0600 From: bfleming@swri.edu Message-Id: <199804011539.KAA000.56@uqbar.qa.swri.edu> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 98 10:38:52 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: re: [PDF] Dynamically Generated PDFs X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.40 (Unregistered) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > ...I have included data sites within the value fields > (e.g. /T (first_name) /V (##Sa_FIRST_NAME##) ) in an FDF > file. I have it set up so the FDF file is populated, > then sent to the browser which calls the associated PDF file > which then displays with the dynamically generated FDF data. > So far, the FDF is successfully populated, but the browser > just displays the contents of the FDF file, apparently the > PDF file is not being called successfully. Any thoughts? I haven't used sapphire web, but a couple of quick things to check for: FDF should be mimetype-encoded as application/vnd.fdf. The "/F" key in the FDF should point to the location (URL) of the pdf form. Make sure there isn't an "/ID" field in the FDF (acrobat puts this in when you export form data - I was doing this for testing...and this prevents population of the form fields, not sure why - i.e. PDF loads, but not the form data) ...also I think you need a "#FDF" appended to the client request for the file... Hope this is of some help, Bob Fleming +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----------------------------------------------------------- Bob Fleming bfleming@swri.edu ----------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 17:20:33-GMT,1811;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00775 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:20:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10321; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:09:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:08:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10238; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:08:10 -0600 Message-ID: <3522754B.64F447E5@glyphica.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 09:11:39 -0800 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Copying of links to multiple pages References: <199804011043.UAA17939@magna.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Try Compose from InfoData (Ambia) ... Deidre ........................................ Glyphica Acrobat & Web Publishing http://www.glyphica.com 650/428-1800 PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com ........................................ Annette Larke wrote: > Dear all, > > Does anyone know if there is a plugin which allows you to duplicate links > to all pages in a document - the same way buttons are duplicated? > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 17:22:37-GMT,2807;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00908 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:22:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08867; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:48:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:47:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08763; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:47:43 -0600 X-Sender: rbroome@mail.psislidell.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <352256F1.6374C183@beacon.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:55:36 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Robert Broome Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and sgml Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Robert Broome wrote: >> >> [...] in the end, you will need to make PDF files for your CD in >> either case. > >No. There are SGML-based solutions that effectively compete with PDF for >document delivery via CD-ROM. The first that comes to mind is Inso DynaText. > True. There are several good alternatives based in SGML. However, my point, not explained well at all, is that PDF is a very popular and equivelent method of presenting the data. For instance, when one makes a Dynatext file, the resulting files are custom dynatext binary files. One does not have to even provide the SGML. Same for PDF. But I fully agree that an SGML based solution is best, if one can afford it. But the SGML won't be on the CD in my experience (except as an archive if that is desired). >> Now, if one of your choices is HTML, then XML is detinitely the way to go. >> It is the best of all three worlds (SGML, HTML, PDF). > >How do you mean? I think it is wrong to present XML as a combination of >content >storage (SGML) and presentation (HTML, PDF) technologies. XML specifies >nothing >more about style (display) than does SGML--that is indeed its strength. Well, that is true, XML is a structure language. But rigorous style sheets are part of the XML family, unlike SGML. In that sense it has both worlds (the styling of HTML and the structure of SGML), while providing the best of those worlds (rigor in style unlike HTML and simplicity in structure unlike SGML). +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 17:34:49-GMT,2501;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01567 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:34:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA12299; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:24:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:23:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12193; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:23:13 -0600 Message-ID: <003e01bd5d93$3292d060$163d19d0@gw2k-p60> From: "Karl Schmidtmann" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Copying of links to multiple pages Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:25:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Annette: Ambia's Compose, a publishing tool for Acrobat Exchange, has a "Copy Link" module which will clone links throughout a document, or range of pages. More information about Compose, and an evaluation version, can be found on our Web site (www.ambia.com), or you can call me directly. Karl Schmidtmann Ambia 707-829-7500 -----Original Message----- From: Annette Larke To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tuesday, March 31, 1998 7:30 PM Subject: [PDF] Copying of links to multiple pages > >Dear all, > >Does anyone know if there is a plugin which allows you to duplicate links >to all pages in a document - the same way buttons are duplicated? > >Regards, > >Annette Larke >Larke Services Pty LTd >URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 19:32:55-GMT,1661;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06928 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:32:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA17779; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:02:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:00:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17650; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:00:27 -0600 From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf'" Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf to html Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:04:00 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <98Apr1.135817est.115594@gateway.lrp.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know of a pdf conversion tool to html that will not put hard returns at the end of lines? How about a good conversion tool for pdf tables to html? I have tried Access from Adobe (yet to be fully released) and Iceni's pdf conversion but with limited success. I was wondering if anyone has tried anything else. Thanks so much. Sincerely, Donna R. Meyer Software Development Coordinator LRP Publications, Inc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 19:37:31-GMT,1999;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07059 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:37:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19071; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:20:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:19:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18949; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:19:39 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5DAC.0E8E3240.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf and sgml Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:55:21 +0100 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David Stabb writes: >The broader XML standard does, however addrerss style and formatting issues >by means of XSL, or eXtensible Style Language. XSL is a subset of DSSSL, >the comprehensive but seldom implemented style sheet specification. is it any wonder that a nice simple to create, simple to use "standard" like PDF is winning ;-) drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 20:20:31-GMT,2307;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08700 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:20:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20914; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:44:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:42:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20796; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:42:44 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565D9.006BF979.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:41:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf to html Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Capture 2.0 converts to HTML - I haven't used it so don't know if it adds hard returns at the end of lines. And I'm not sure what it does to tables. Donna Meyer on 04/01/98 11:04:00 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf'" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf to html Does anyone know of a pdf conversion tool to html that will not put hard returns at the end of lines? How about a good conversion tool for pdf tables to html? I have tried Access from Adobe (yet to be fully released) and Iceni's pdf conversion but with limited success. I was wondering if anyone has tried anything else. Thanks so much. Sincerely, Donna R. Meyer Software Development Coordinator LRP Publications, Inc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 21:09:58-GMT,1662;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10702 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:09:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA25117; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:46:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:45:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25007; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:45:11 -0600 From: kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com Message-Id: <9804018914.AA891463634@deltahealth.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Wed, 01 Apr 98 15:47:08 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] cost of sgml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about pdf and sgml. Your input is greatly appreciated and has helped me a lot. In all the research I've been doing, however, I have not found one thing to indicate what costs are involved in implementating sgml other than that it is costly. Does anyone know anything a little more specific about this? Thanks! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 21:13:36-GMT,2282;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10789 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:13:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA24809; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:42:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:40:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24665; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:40:11 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:41:36 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] still TTF problems To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199804011541_MC2-38A9-DF54@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA24657 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Laura Dietz wrote: >How can I add a 14th font, wich is out PS-Version of Frutiger? To my knowledge, in Distiller you can indicate, which fonts to embed always. You then poiint to a directory, where the PostScript type 1 font is. Either it is that simple, or I have missed something. I'd say, ATM is not needed, but I may be wrong. (I am sitting at a Mac right now, maybe you could try it out yourself and let me/us know?) Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 22:02:30-GMT,1998;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12722 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:02:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA27306; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:21:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:20:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27179; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:20:08 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980401232128.0075fe24@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> X-Sender: ldietz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 23:21:38 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Laura Dietz / Myselfine Subject: Re: [PDF] still TTF problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 15:41 01.04.98 -0500, you wrote: > >Laura Dietz wrote: > >>How can I add a 14th font, wich is out PS-Version of Frutiger? > >To my knowledge, in Distiller you can indicate, which fonts to embed >always. You then poiint to a directory, where the PostScript type 1 font >is. I know. But the problem is, that Distiller does not recognize the *real* fontname "frutiger" but its temporary counterpath "MSTT....." Furthermore, if you do *not* embed the name "MSTT..." acrobat Exchange / Reade can not resolve the systemfont, because it also looks for a font called "MSTT..." but on the system its called "Frutiger" Regards Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 23:01:33-GMT,2740;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14960 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:01:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA31737; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:46:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:45:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31668; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:45:09 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980402004639.0075d760@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> X-Sender: ldietz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 00:46:43 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Laura Dietz / Myselfine Subject: Re: [PDF] still TTF problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 17:23 01.04.98 -0500, you wrote: > >Laura Dietz wrote: >> >>I know. But the problem is, that Distiller does not recognize the *real* >>fontname "frutiger" but its temporary counterpath "MSTT....." >> >>Furthermore, if you do *not* embed the name "MSTT..." acrobat Exchange / >>Reade can not resolve the systemfont, because it also looks for a font >>called "MSTT..." but on the system its called "Frutiger" >> > >I would have to play with things on windows (still writing this e-mail on >a Mac), so this is just guessing: > >if you'd simply not embeds font in the PostScript file (is possible at seems to work, but i dont know a way of telling a win95 PS Driver NOT to embed fonts >least on the Mac ...), the name for Frutiger would be maintained. If you >then feed the file into Distiller, and Distiller knows about that >Frutiger font and is told to embed it, the font would end up inside the >PDF file. Then it does not matter anymore what your Acrobat >Reader/Exchange setups look like. Or am I still missing something > >(Important remark: usually the best approach for getting PDF files with >all (and the proper) fonts embedded is to embed all fonts in the >PostScript file when printing to file and then feed that self contained >PostScript file into Distiller.) The font is embedded in the PS-source .. but this is not properly done Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 23:02:53-GMT,2987;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14987 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:02:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA30720; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:24:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:22:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30604; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:22:05 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:23:21 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] still TTF problems To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199804011723_MC2-38A8-E020@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA30597 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Laura Dietz wrote: > >I know. But the problem is, that Distiller does not recognize the *real* >fontname "frutiger" but its temporary counterpath "MSTT....." > >Furthermore, if you do *not* embed the name "MSTT..." acrobat Exchange / >Reade can not resolve the systemfont, because it also looks for a font >called "MSTT..." but on the system its called "Frutiger" > I would have to play with things on windows (still writing this e-mail on a Mac), so this is just guessing: if you'd simply not embeds font in the PostScript file (is possible at least on the Mac ...), the name for Frutiger would be maintained. If you then feed the file into Distiller, and Distiller knows about that Frutiger font and is told to embed it, the font would end up inside the PDF file. Then it does not matter anymore what your Acrobat Reader/Exchange setups look like. Or am I still missing something (Important remark: usually the best approach for getting PDF files with all (and the proper) fonts embedded is to embed all fonts in the PostScript file when printing to file and then feed that self contained PostScript file into Distiller.) Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 2:44:18-GMT,2254;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21567 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:44:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA07603; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:24:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:22:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07493; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:22:13 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:23:47 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: kingkern@mail.eclipse.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804011647.KAA08780@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jim kramer Subject: [PDF] need help on Mac Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 MAC PEOPLE: after upgrading to distiller 3.02, i can no longer print an acrobat file from my machine. i am on system 8.1, using the laserwriter software that came with the system. it also didn't work under system 8.0 (using the laserwriter software that came with that). power computing machine, lots of RAM. (i installed 8.1 thinking some magic might occur.) as far as i've noticed, the postscript error generated is typecheck, the offending command is status. doesnt matter what application the original file was built in. nor if i use the acrobat driver or the laserwriter driver. i am printing to a laserwriter IInt (old). if i move the job to my centris 650, system 7.1, and the accompanying laserwriter software, the jobs print fine. anybody have any suggestions?? tia, Jim Kramer _________________________________________________________ *Every* day is a beautiful day. --Elwood P. Dowd +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 5:24:21-GMT,2676;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA26079 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:24:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA12587; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:44:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:34:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA12304; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:34:14 -0600 Message-Id: <199804020428.OAA16471@solar.accsoft.com.au> From: "Morris Gray" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:40:35 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Autolaunch a pdf when Reader is launched In-reply-to: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It may be of help for you to know what I've been doing with a news update I receive by email on science programs on TV, Radio and web pages. I print the email to Acrobat PDFWriter, to the same file every time, which has an icon on my desktop. I save over the old file, and at any time I just click on the icon on the desktop and it opens Acrobat Reader with the the latest information for the next week. In this case the file opens Acrobat Reader and not the other way around. I think that's the way it was intended. On 31 Mar 98 at 17:31, Felix Parrott wrote: > > I'm looking for a way to configure the Reader application to auto > load a pdf when reader is launched. In other words, a pdf document > would be opened the same time the reader is opened without having > the user to go to file and pull down open and selecting a pdf. The > file would be preselected to open. > > Any feedback is welcome. I'm using a pdf doc as a "home" page with > links to other pdf files on a cd. > > Thanks-Felix > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------- Morris Gray +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 8:25:46-GMT,1951;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14789 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:25:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA19169; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:01:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:57:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA18985; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:57:28 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5E15.7042EBC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] still TTF problems Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:49:25 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, 1 April, 1998 23:47, Laura Dietz / Myselfine [SMTP:ldietz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de] wrote: > > >> > >>I know. But the problem is, that Distiller does not recognize the *real* > >>fontname "frutiger" but its temporary counterpath "MSTT....." > >> As you've correctly identified, this is because the driver has made this change. In fact, the driver has converted the TrueType font to PostScript. See if you have the choice in the printer driver of "Send fonts as...type 42". This may magically fix the problem. (Don't use printer set up, the Send Font As tab will not appear. Use the printers control panel). Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 8:25:50-GMT,1990;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14808 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:25:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA19168; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:01:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:57:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA18986; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:57:28 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5E15.6EA6EF00.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] need help on Mac Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:47:11 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, 2 April, 1998 03:24, jim kramer [SMTP:kingkern@eclipse.net] wrote: > > as far as i've noticed, the postscript error generated is typecheck, the > offending command is status. > > doesnt matter what application the original file was built in. nor if i use > the acrobat driver or the laserwriter driver. This is not a Distiller issue. It is a problem with the 3.01 release of Exchange and Reader; Adobe apparently don't know how to write clean level 1 PostScript any more. There is a work-around for this specific problem on my PostScript errors page http://www.quite.com/ps/errors.htm. Or, go back to 3.0 if you have antedeluvian PostScript printers. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 8:38:41-GMT,1951;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17360 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:38:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA19563; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:14:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:11:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19447; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:11:02 -0600 Message-Id: <199804020811.KAA15416@master.datanet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] need help on Mac Date: Thu, 2 Apr 98 10:12:39 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >after upgrading to distiller 3.02, i can no longer print an acrobat file >from my machine. i am on system 8.1, using the laserwriter software that >came with the system. it also didn't work under system 8.0 (using the >laserwriter software that came with that). power computing machine, lots of >RAM. (i installed 8.1 thinking some magic might occur.) I don't understand if problems are occurring after the upgrade to MacOS 8.1 or after upgrade to Distiller 3.02... I had some problems with LaserWriter 8.4.2 (MacOS 8.0 Italian): then I installed the old 8.3.4 (MacOS 7.5.3) and it runs without problems. My suggestion is that to find a LW8 that gives no problems (may be also printer-dependent). Andrea +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 11:24:01-GMT,1849;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24075 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 04:24:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA22948; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 04:15:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 04:09:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22717; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 04:09:15 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980402121027.0083ea20@mailhost> X-Sender: pma@mailhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 12:10:27 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Peder Madsen Subject: [PDF] QuarkXPress and PDF. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi everyone, When I create PDF-files from QuarkXPress on the Mac that include lineart (1 bit B/W drawings in tiff format) with a baggrund color assigned in Quark, the Reader displays these with a white baggrund when the page is zoomed out. But as soon I zoom in to about 400% the page appears as it should with the bagground color. I use QuarkXPress Passport ver. 3.32 and the latest printerdriver from Adobe. Does anyone know this problem, and maybe a way to solve it? Thanks in advance. -- Peder Madsen (pma@stibo.dk) Stibo Datagrafik DK-8270 Hoejbjerg, Denmark +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 12:26:09-GMT,2469;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25284 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:26:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA25363; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:48:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:43:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25211; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:43:05 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412565DA.0045E069.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:44:02 +0100 Subject: Antwort: RE: [PDF] still TTF problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Aandi, Type42 does not help. Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) quite@dial.pipex.com on 02.04.98 08:49:25 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: RE: [PDF] still TTF problems On Wednesday, 1 April, 1998 23:47, Laura Dietz / Myselfine [SMTP:ldietz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de] wrote: > > >> > >>I know. But the problem is, that Distiller does not recognize the *real* > >>fontname "frutiger" but its temporary counterpath "MSTT....." > >> As you've correctly identified, this is because the driver has made this change. In fact, the driver has converted the TrueType font to PostScript. See if you have the choice in the printer driver of "Send fonts as...type 42". This may magically fix the problem. (Don't use printer set up, the Send Font As tab will not appear. Use the printers control panel). Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 12:26:17-GMT,6256;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25294 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:26:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA25556; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:54:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:49:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25391; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:49:33 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980402065320.00938350@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: stpaul@pop.erols.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 06:53:20 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky Subject: [PDF] Ensuring a consistent view in Acrobat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jeanette Nakada asked: "Can I set up a fixed page view so that users with Readers within the firm get a consistent page view in all pdf files they look at?" Jeanette's question raises a host of Acrobat issues regarding the interplay of zoom setting (FIt Width, Fit Visible, fixed magnifications, et al.) view setting (Singe Page vs. Continuous), "Go To" behavior, and monitor resolution. What follows is a slightly modified posting I made on this subject last autumn to the other Acrobat list server (Blueworld): It bears reminding that to obtain the most predictable results when setting the view, you must go to File...Document Info...Open... and set Page Layout to "Single Page." If Page Layout is set to "Continuous," the portion of the page that's in view may vary, depending on the user's display resolution. To a large extent, this is true even in Single Page view. The reason is simple: When capturing your intended view, Exchange memorizes the portion of the page at the top of your pane. As a result, you must take precautions when linking to a low-lying target. Let's say you want to ensure that when users click on "2.2" in the Table of Contents they are taken to a heading called "2.2 Specific Approach." On paper, the heading lies two inches from the bottom of the page. If you create this link on a 1,280x1,024 high-resolution display that shows, say, the entire page at once or the bottom 80 percent, guess what your users will see on a standard 640x480 VGA display? They'll see only the top half of what you saw. They will not see "2.2 Specific Approach." What can you do to prevent such accidental cutoffs? One solution is to work in a coarser resolution when setting your views and links. This will better simulate the displays used by mere mortals. But that takes the fun and productivity out of using a high-resolution display. A better solution is to reduce the height of your Exchange window when setting the link. Make the window as short as two inches, then scroll until the target heading appears just below the top of the window. Now set your link. Your target is now guaranteed to show up, regardless of the user's screen resolution or window size. If the target is close to the bottom of the page, it won't appear at the top of the window; your readers may think they've gone to the wrong page until they scan down the page and discover it at the bottom. But that's the price we must pay when using the Single Page view. In Exchange, as soon as you've set your low-lying link, you can, of course, expand your window to a comfortable size--until setting your next low-lying link. When linking to a target that's already visible--when linking, say, from Heading 2.3 to Heading 2.3.1 an inch below--it's good practice to alter the view slightly to confirm that the "Go To" indeed went. Having said that, I add that it's always a courtesy to include a nearby parent heading to provide a sense of context. For the kinds of documents I often deal with--technical reports--my default magnification is "Fit Width." The recent advice to determine the numerical equivalent of "Fit Width" and use that number makes a lot of sense. The point is, "Fit Page" is not recommended for small-point type. Most people out there are still stuck with displays set at Super VGA (800x600) or coarser, on monitors measuring 15 inches or smaller. If you throw "Fit Page" views at these poor souls, they will have to strain their eyes when reading 10- to 12-point type. Many will simply give up. Charts, tables, and figures pose a different, but related challenge. Let's say your target view is a full-width, five-inch-tall chart whose title lies below it. "Fit Width" may not show both. Some Acrobatters would use "Fit Page," but again, that forces readers to squint to read small type. No, you should still use a cropped view. But the chart, as we said, is quite tall. Should you ensure that the data is in view, or the title? Well, both. If you cut off the title, your readers must scroll down to read it. If you cut off the top of the chart, they must scroll up. Either way, they'll be resentful. The solution: Adjust the magnification until both elements are in view. To allow for variances in displays, find a magnification that shows perhaps another half-inch of page below the chart title. Now set your link. Your readers will see the whole enchilada, without having to squint to see the details. A caveat: Anytime you change your default view--say, from "Fit Width" to "155 percent"--remember to set it back once you've set your link. As more create our links automatically in FrameMaker, PageMaker, PDFWriter for Word 97, and the like, we will still have to manually test each link and tweak our link views to ensure that our Go To views make sense on low-resolution displays. I suspect that our supervisors will rule that the economics don't allow it. Paul Franklin Stregevsky Technical Writer Aerotek, Inc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 12:28:41-GMT,3462;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25336 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:28:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA25854; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 06:02:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:57:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25661; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:57:51 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412565DA.0046EDBE.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:58:59 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Autolaunch a pdf when Reader is launched Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, On Win95/NT you can configure your Startmenue link. When you start Reader with a PDF file als Argument, rerader will launch this file. Another solution: Always "start" a PDF-File. When the PDF extention is associated with Reader, Reader will start and open the PDF-Document. Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) msgray@symbex.com.au on 02.04.98 05:40:35 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: Re: [PDF] Autolaunch a pdf when Reader is launched It may be of help for you to know what I've been doing with a news update I receive by email on science programs on TV, Radio and web pages. I print the email to Acrobat PDFWriter, to the same file every time, which has an icon on my desktop. I save over the old file, and at any time I just click on the icon on the desktop and it opens Acrobat Reader with the the latest information for the next week. In this case the file opens Acrobat Reader and not the other way around. I think that's the way it was intended. On 31 Mar 98 at 17:31, Felix Parrott wrote: > > I'm looking for a way to configure the Reader application to auto > load a pdf when reader is launched. In other words, a pdf document > would be opened the same time the reader is opened without having > the user to go to file and pull down open and selecting a pdf. The > file would be preselected to open. > > Any feedback is welcome. I'm using a pdf doc as a "home" page with > links to other pdf files on a cd. > > Thanks-Felix > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------- Morris Gray +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 13:44:29-GMT,2054;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26839 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 06:44:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA29287; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:32:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:28:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29101; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:28:57 -0600 X-Sender: rbroome@mail.psislidell.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9804018914.AA891463634@deltahealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:37:09 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Robert Broome Subject: Re: [PDF] cost of sgml Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about pdf and sgml. Your input >is greatly appreciated and has helped me a lot. In all the research I've been >doing, however, I have not found one thing to indicate what costs are involved >in implementating sgml other than that it is costly. Does anyone know >anything a >little more specific about this? The cost is proportional to the input data. With clean data (if such a thing really exists :)), lets say a man-month to convert a 500 page text from a word processor file to a formatted SGML-based document. But the data is never clean (read consistent). Hence, one can't give a good cost estimate without some idea of the data. So-its expensive, worth it when you gain value from cleaned-up data. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 13:48:27-GMT,2816;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26956 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 06:48:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA28522; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:12:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:08:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28351; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:08:16 -0600 Message-ID: <35238E23.8EBBB4BA@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:09:56 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] cost of sgml References: <9804018914.AA891463634@deltahealth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com wrote: > > Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about pdf and sgml. Your input > is greatly appreciated and has helped me a lot. In all the research I've been > doing, however, I have not found one thing to indicate what costs are involved > in implementating sgml other than that it is costly. Does anyone know anything a > little more specific about this? In general, the higher relative cost of migrating to an SGML solution versus migrating to an Acrobat solution is due to the broader scope of change needed within the organization. For example, using Acrobat tacks on a few new cheap tools at the end of a process, at best. SGML, on the other hand, really requires a change in thought process as information is prepared, hence training becomes an issue. Also, new production tools are required (not just anything that makes PostScript will do), so there is a software investment, plus the support and training issues that go along with that. And, as with any new technology, there is the loss of productivity associated with a learning curve, which is a hidden cost. All that said, I really think you'd find more concrete and quantified information on an SGML discussion forum rather than a PDF discussion forum, if you haven't already pursued it. "Calculating a return on investment for SGML" is a very popular workshop topic in any SGML discussion forum or event I've ever attended. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 13:51:05-GMT,2484;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27047 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 06:51:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA29434; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:36:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:32:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29270; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:32:32 -0600 X-Sender: rbroome@mail.psislidell.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199804011647.KAA08780@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:40:36 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Robert Broome Subject: Re: [PDF] need help on Mac Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >MAC PEOPLE: > >after upgrading to distiller 3.02, i can no longer print an acrobat file >from my machine. i am on system 8.1, using the laserwriter software that >came with the system. it also didn't work under system 8.0 (using the >laserwriter software that came with that). power computing machine, lots of >RAM. (i installed 8.1 thinking some magic might occur.) > >as far as i've noticed, the postscript error generated is typecheck, the >offending command is status. > >doesnt matter what application the original file was built in. nor if i use >the acrobat driver or the laserwriter driver. > >i am printing to a laserwriter IInt (old). > >if i move the job to my centris 650, system 7.1, and the accompanying >laserwriter software, the jobs print fine. > >anybody have any suggestions?? > >tia, > > >Jim Kramer upgrade to a level II printer. For the first time when I upgraded to system 8, I started noticing jobs wouldn't print on our Level I printers and would print on the newer Level II printers. I guess the two halves of Postscript have finally gotten so far out of sync that they are not working correctly. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 14:56:45-GMT,2186;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29158 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:56:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA32713; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:36:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:34:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA32546; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:34:16 -0600 Message-Id: <199804021431.PAA03387@chime.ucl.ac.uk> From: "Mr. Matthew Darlison" Organization: UCL Medical School Dept. of Primary Care To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:31:37 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Forms and editable text Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I'm involved in publishing patient information materials as a support to health workers. Hence I need to be sure that my content will not be asily/accidently modified, so all my files are secured for changes. However, there are parts of some docs which should be "personalised" or at least customised for the issuing centre, so I had hoped that I could make these into forms entries, but the lock which block amendments also seems to block filling in the form fields... Is this normal behaviour, or am I missing something? TIA! Matthew Darlison -- "Mr. Matthew Darlison BA MA" Research Fellow, Dept. of Primary Care and Population Sciences, UCL Based at CHIME - the Centre for Health Informatics and Multiprofessional Education APoGI - Accessible Publishing of Genetic Information Project on the Web at http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/APoGI/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 14:57:04-GMT,1907;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29166 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:57:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA32107; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:27:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:24:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31912; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:24:12 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] QuarkXPress and PDF. Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:30:08 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1320620501-4863474@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Peder Madsen (pma@stibo.dk) wrote on 4/2/98 3:10 AM: >When I create PDF-files from QuarkXPress on the Mac that include lineart (1 >bit B/W drawings in tiff format) with a baggrund color assigned in Quark, >the Reader displays these with a white baggrund when the page is zoomed >out. But as soon I zoom in to about 400% the page appears as it should with >the bagground color. Try unchecking the "Smooth text and monochrome images" option in general prefs. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 16:58:54-GMT,2875;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03199 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:58:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA05603; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:23:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:20:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05432; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:20:47 -0600 Message-Id: <199804021620.KAA05427@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: [PDFdev] Dynamically Generated PDFs Date: Thu, 2 Apr 98 18:22:19 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >So, what I'm saying is this is a great idea, just have to have >a solution when the next release of PDf comes out. Is there any way >that you can use API calls from the Exchange SDK so all features >of the current and future PDF file format can be supported? This >way when the next version comes out, if someone is using your >meta-code then they can continue with the latest PDF features. This is effectively our goal, Alex! I've already tried other products like PDFlib and done great things very easily (I even ported it to MacOS platform...), but: - I need a C environment and a stand alone program necessarily. Our solution is based on an ASCII source that is interpreted (the contrary of compiled, embedded in the application): this is a must over real-time generation of PDF documents. - They support one version of the PDF language that doesn't follow its evolution. So our idea is just to have Exchange writing PDF, having the ultimate quality and functions available, and even the latest PDF version. Some changes could be needed both in the plug-in and in the meta-language in the future when new releases will come out, but you always will be able to have such important things as: - compression of the stream; - encryption of the stream; - file optimization (needed for bytestreaming); - standard securities; - support for links, bookmarks, actions, forms, transitions and so on... Support for images (and maybe also for video) is also considered, I think the project could be extended at wish, it is just a problem of resources to dedicate. Thank you for your suggestions. Andrea +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 16:58:58-GMT,1382;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03207 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:58:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA06630; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:42:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:40:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06522; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:40:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199804021640.KAA06517@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [PDFdev] Dynamically Generated PDFs Date: Thu, 2 Apr 98 18:42:14 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Subject: [PDF] Re: [PDFdev] Dynamically Generated PDFs Sorry for the unwanted cross posting! Andrea +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 17:38:51-GMT,1546;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04336 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:38:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA08435; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:09:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:06:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08279; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:06:53 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 11:17:02 -0600 From: Renee Zielinski To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Prepress Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm not sure if this is the correct list to help me with this one or not but here it goes: For a catalog that requires several last minute changes, is PDF the right format to use? Currently most of our files are saved in CT/LW format, is it possible to convert these to PDF easily and if so, will they be editable PDF files? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 18:18:48-GMT,1868;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05557 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:18:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10520; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:47:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:44:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10174; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:44:16 -0600 Message-Id: <3507AA54.54FB@elf-p.fr> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:26:45 +0100 From: Francis Morandini Organization: elf exploration production X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [fr] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] tif to pdf converter on sun Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I need to convert very large (200-400 Mb) TIFF files to pdf format. Our PC stations on which we have Distiller can't handle such files (memory, ...) even if the files are accessed through the network (they are located on Sun stations). We also need to do the work automatically in background, for instance whith a command like " tif2pdf file.pdf ". Is there a product or a solution on Sun Solaris hardware, whithout using the programming interface? Best regards -- Francis Morandini Elf Exploration Production f.morandini@elf-p.fr +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 19:23:50-GMT,7260;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07630 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:23:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA15068; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:12:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:10:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14958; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:10:16 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5E28.47B0BDF0@SPECWAR> From: Michael Peterson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Screenshots for conversion to PDF Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:01:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD5E28.47B6D870" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5E28.47B6D870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you resampling to at least 144ppi and using tiff's? Michael Peterson petersonm@infintech.com -----Original Message----- From: Beth Fischi [SMTP:bethf@tahc.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, March 27, 1998 8:43 AM To: PAGEMAKR@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU; pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Screenshots for conversion to PDF Hi, all -- quick question: I'd like your opinions on the optimum way to prepare screenshots for a manual that is going to be distributed both in paper format (laserprinted) and as a PDF file. The screenshots that I've included in the manual (a PM 6.5 for Mac publication) look fine when printed, but lousy onscreen as part of a PDF file and as part of the PM publication. I can adjust downsampling when I export as PDF, but the originals in PM look bad (Acrobat can't *improve* the onscreen appearance of files, right?) -- that is, when you look at them onscreen, you can't read most of the print on dialog boxes and windows. Is there a way to optimize these screenshots for exporting from PM as part of a PDF manual? I've tried Photoshopping them -- using a bunch of different modes -- but my Frankensteinian experiments still made them look lousy onscreen. 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19:27:00-GMT,7990;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07715 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:26:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14167; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:57:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:52:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13861; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:52:40 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5E25.D0520900@SPECWAR> From: Michael Peterson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Screenshots for conversion to PDF Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:55:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD5E25.D0551640" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5E25.D0551640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paint Shop Pro 640x480x256 color 800x600x256 color Save as RGB bitmap Resize if necessary using Photoshop. Go Mode>Indexed color 8 bit. This = will decrease file size by 1/3 and still retain quality image for guide. When resizing be sure to contrain proportions and resample to 144ppi or = better. Do the same when distilling to pdf. Any questions, write me. Michael Peterson Tech Writer Infinite Computer Solutions, Folsom, CA petersonm@infintech.com -----Original Message----- From: Beth Fischi [SMTP:bethf@tahc.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, March 27, 1998 8:43 AM To: PAGEMAKR@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU; pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Screenshots for conversion to PDF Hi, all -- quick question: I'd like your opinions on the optimum way to prepare screenshots for a manual that is going to be distributed both in paper format = (laserprinted) and as a PDF file. The screenshots that I've included in the manual (a PM 6.5 for Mac publication) look fine when printed, but lousy onscreen as part of a PDF file and as part of the PM publication. I can adjust downsampling when I export as PDF, but the originals in PM look bad (Acrobat can't *improve* the onscreen appearance of files, right?) -- that is, when you look at = them onscreen, you can't read most of the print on dialog boxes and windows. Is there a way to optimize these screenshots for exporting from PM as = part of a PDF manual? I've tried Photoshopping them -- using a bunch of different modes -- but my Frankensteinian experiments still made them = look lousy onscreen. 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Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1320602186-5966445@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just launched Exchange 3.0.1 for the first time after upgrading (clean install) to MacOS 8.1. While plugins were loading, I got the message: "There was an error while loading the plugin 'pdfOutput'. There was a Macintosh system error (-42)." Then it came up again and again and again while loading these plugins: ReversePages Show Bookmarks Super Prefs Finally the alert came up one last time with the same error while trying to open the file. Any ideas if this is a wide-spread problem or just me? Anyone have a solution? TIA Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 21:14:47-GMT,3649;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10433 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:14:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19123; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:39:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:35:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18947; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:35:29 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:36:46 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] MacOS 8.1 sys error To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199804021536_MC2-38C5-9B0E@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA18941 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dennis, I had run into this error several times - with and without Exchange - : -42 means 'too many files open'. As loading plug-ins (or XTensions, or XTras, or ...) means the loading app has to open the file, well, you guess what's going on here. I usually have this phenomenon when I already have about ten apps running on my Mac G3, in each app I have maybe 5 or 10 files open, and then I launch another app or try to open another file - and ther it comes: this -42 message. I also had it quite often with ATM Deluxe, as soon as some font was automatically opened by ATM. So I believe, this is not the fault of some application or plug-in: it is something in the OS that needs to be adapted... Olaf Druemmer PS: What is strange to me is that it does not happen regularly. > > >I just launched Exchange 3.0.1 for the first time after upgrading (clean >install) to MacOS 8.1. While plugins were loading, I got the message: > >"There was an error while loading the plugin 'pdfOutput'. There was a >Macintosh system error (-42)." > >Then it came up again and again and again while loading these plugins: >ReversePages >Show Bookmarks >Super Prefs > >Finally the alert came up one last time with the same error while trying >to open the file. > >Any ideas if this is a wide-spread problem or just me? Anyone have a >solution? > >TIA > >Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net >EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 >InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 21:14:50-GMT,4533;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10437 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:14:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19468; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:45:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:42:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19281; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:42:22 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5E35.25EC1B30@SPECWAR> From: Michael Peterson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] MS Index Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:42:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD5E35.25F542F0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5E35.25F542F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill, How does this virtual card box work? Thanks, Michael -----Original Message----- From: William Mannion [SMTP:billmannion@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 12:35 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] MS Index Does anyone know if Microsoft Index has a plug-in or something to handle PDF? << File: vcard.vcf >> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5E35.25F542F0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IjsUAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAsAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAAeAAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAA AB4AAzABAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEw AQAAABgAAAAncGRmQGxpc3RzLnBkZnpvbmUuY29tJwACAQswAQAAABsAAABTTVRQOlBERkBMSVNU Uy5QREZaT05FLkNPTQAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAB4A9l8BAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQAAAAIB918BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5w ZGZ6b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAADAP1fAQAAAAMA/18AAAAA AgH2DwEAAAAEAAAAAAAAAvlbAQSAAQATAAAAUkU6IFtQREZdIE1TIEluZGV4AFsFAQWAAwAOAAAA zgcEAAIADAAqADkABABOAQEggAMADgAAAM4HBAACAAwAKgAZAAQALgEBCYABACEAAAAwNDBFNDFG NjY4Q0FEMTExOTZFNTAwNjA5NzU5NTIxQQDpBgEDkAYAIAUAACEAAAALAAIAAQAAAAsAIwAAAAAA AwAmAAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAMALgAAAAAAAwA2AAAAAABAADkA4BNj63devQEeAHAAAQAAABMAAABS RTogW1BERl0gTVMgSW5kZXgAAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG9XnfrXvZBDgXKaBHRluUAYJdZUhoAAB4A HgwBAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEAAAAYAAAAcGV0ZXJzb25tQGluZmludGVjaC5jb20AAwAG EMYW7JcDAAcQEgEAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAEJJTEwsSE9XRE9FU1RISVNWSVJUVUFMQ0FSREJPWFdP Uks/VEhBTktTLE1JQ0hBRUwtLS0tLU9SSUdJTkFMTUVTU0FHRS0tLS0tRlJPTTpXSUxMSUFNTUFO TklPTlNNVFA6QkkAAAAAAgEJEAEAAAAIAgAABAIAAN0CAABMWkZ1m1o6lgMACgByY3BnMTI1FjIA +Atgbg4QMDMznQH3IAKkA+MCAGNoCsDgc2V0MCAHEwKDAFChEHZwcnEyEXZ9CoDZCMggOwlvDjA1 AoAKgWx1YwBQCwNjEhILxCAyQgMQbCwKogqASG9JB+BkbweRdGgEACCUdmkAIHUHQCBjCxEiIAbg eCB3BbBrPwsXpBekVBEAbmtzLHcF0A3gEQBlCVAaWQr0bHhpMzYBQBaQAUASwG8KdAWQdBIEMTYg LbUesk8FEGcLgBkxTQeQ8HNhZ2UesxpGHcQdkYMLEx3GaS0xNDQBQHEdEDE4MAFADNAiU2JUIEYD YToMg2IRYFd7F2EHMG0F0ABwAwACICCAW1NNVFA6YhdhiwOBJSJAGfFsZG4RQNQuYQJALibhXRpF I4APBmACMCPnI6BpZGF5RxthCsAQ8CAwNhtgMQg5OTgqEDI6MzVIIFBNJ6dUbyPncAhkZkAdEHN0 cy6lLDF6AiBlLgWgbSeoGHViah3xI+dbUESkRl0F0kluAQB4IF/XIWodFha2NBekRBhSAHDieS0R IGtuGBEGkBty2QNgc28BgC+UIBEAM2HzLCAKQGctC4EXswWxNMBvB4AYkQ8gGIBvNWEvsGzHM9Av IRo1IDw8I5ADEGxlOhjQGWIuOVA0UD4uPgrjCoATgQA6wAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAIAAAADAIAQ//// /0AABzCwAQnYd169AUAACDCwAQnYd169AQsAAIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAOFAAAAAAAA AwACgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEIUAAAAAAAADAAWACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABS hQAAtw0AAB4AJYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFSFAAABAAAABAAAADguMAADACaACCAGAAAA AADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAABhQAAAAAAAAsAL4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAA6FAAAAAAAAAwAw gAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEYUAAAAAAAADADKACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAYhQAA AAAAAB4AQYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADaFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAEKACCAGAAAAAADA AAAAAAAARgAAAAA3hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgBDgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAOIUAAAEA AAABAAAAAAAAAB4APQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAAAwANNP03AAADBA== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5E35.25F542F0-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 2:49:16-GMT,2708;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21721 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:49:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA06782; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:02:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:58:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06586; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:58:25 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:00:02 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199804020200.SAA04319@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 21:51:05-GMT,4979;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11208 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:51:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA20969; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:17:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:15:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20866; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:15:04 -0600 Message-Id: <9804022116.AA05358@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Prepress Date: Thu, 2 Apr 98 16:16:21 -0500 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , , "Gadi Shoshan" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I'm not sure if this is the correct list to help me with this one or >not but here it goes: > >For a catalog that requires several last minute changes, is PDF the >right format to use? This depends on the level of edit you require. three senarios - 1. Variable type versions (like regional pricing) could be built as blanks in your page design application of choice, then built using the Acrobat Forms plug-in - using FDF and some scripting, you could build a sweet solution - 2. oops moments - the URL is wrong, the price should be $3.00 instead of $2.00, the spell check changed Ferds name to Fred - perfect moment to fix in the PDF with the Touch-up tool - providing you have not subsetted the font (which many feel, including Agfa, is the most reliable method for using PDF as a document exchange technology) - so it is your call. 3. Is PDF the Acro-Photo-Illo-MicroWordo-Pageo-Quarkro-bat "authoring" file format that can be opened and edited to your hearts content? um- well, not really, but I am not certain future versions might not do this sort of thing. If you want full editing - in a no excuses way - the application I would recommend is OneVisions DigiScript application - this application runs in OpenStep - which can be loaded on an Wintel computer, and runs with NT. You can contact OneVision directly ( Thomas Neudenberger E:thomas@one-vision.com) and buy it. www.onevision.de We (at Agfa) OEM and have added our color management and IRT (In Rip Trapping) tools to this application - the application actually converts the PDF to PostScript and uses Display PostScript (available from Steve Jobs OpenStep ( OneVision actually runs under NextStep on a NeXT computer as well) - and then, exports back to PDF when you have "had your way" with images, type and objects in that PDF file - yes, even H&J text wrapping is a breeze. >Currently most of our files are saved in CT/LW >format, Kinda tough to spell check these files huh? ;-) > is it possible to convert these to PDF easily and if so, oof - um, you mean, take a Scitex CT/LW, use Scitex SciNet Span Pro to "see" the assignment of the CT to the LW (that little FLYT file that can't seem to "live" on a Mac or PC volume) and then convert to Tiff/It-P1, and then send that through the Agfa Apogee CEPSLink (also known as Shira Software, wink wink ) and convert the Tiff/It-P1 to some big ole composite EPS - and then Open that EPS in Distiller - yep, you sure can - though I might give you a little tip and advise you not to try onpening this monster in a Acrobat Reader enabled web browser! -- kinda like trying to put toothpaste back into a tube. ;-) > will they be editable PDF files? Editable? No really, as they are raster files - Like in PhotoShop? Can you edit a LW file in PhotoShop (yes, with Plug-ins, but it is not very fast or pretty) - can you edit the CT file of a page in PhotoShop - yes. Can you edit these glommed together eps file (now distilled) in - in what? Nothing I can see - best to save as eps, run it back through a Scitex rip and edit it that mess there - actually, take that back, better not to convert CT/LWs to "Shira" EPS to PDF in the first place, unless you simply want to view them in Reader - best not to even go to CT/LW - go postScript to PDF, and exchange PDFs. Use Agfa Apogee instead. for more on this go to www.jahn.org or www.agfahome.com Please reply to mikejahn@jahn.com Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa-Gevaert N.V. 200 Ballardvale St. MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P: 978.658.0200 ext 5504 I: www.jahn.org Cell Phone: 617.605.5716 F: 508.658.8982 (but don't send me a FAX -send a PDF file!) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 21:55:11-GMT,5306;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11290 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:55:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21332; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:25:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:22:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21210; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:22:51 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5EC1.FDB5EFA0@stpfl2-49.gate.net> From: Chris Lane To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Is everyone tracking Quicktime 3 licensing? Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 05:33:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD5EC1.FDBD90C0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5EC1.FDBD90C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you are using Movie links and distributing Quicktime movies you = should be aware that Apple is cooking up some licensing changes on the = new Quicktime 3.0. If you plan to distribute the Quicktime software = with your PDF, start thinking about $1 per. Those about to be affected = might want to take a trip over to = = (until April 6) or = (after April 6). or . or or Apple says its listening to the whining, so affected people might want = to send em some food for thought. 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As loading plug-ins (or XTensions, or >XTras, or ...) means the loading app has to open the file, well, you >guess what's going on here. > >I usually have this phenomenon when I already have about ten apps running >on my Mac G3, in each app I have maybe 5 or 10 files open, and then I >launch another app or try to open another file - and ther it comes: this >-42 message. > >I also had it quite often with ATM Deluxe, as soon as some font was >automatically opened by ATM. > >So I believe, this is not the fault of some application or plug-in: it is >something in the OS that needs to be adapted... Nick Keck posted this to me on 02/28...(and I find these limits exist in 8.1) >Jim, > >Just read this on the Mac list. HTH > >From: >http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/14b806f5b63e5c3386256495005accbb/18f > >2d583a1008956862564950064f839?OpenDocument > > >DISCUSSION > > > >Finder Limits >------------- >* Number of open files: 346 >* Number of Apple Menu Items: 52 (more items can added, but only 52 >appear when clicking on the Apple Menu icon) >* Number of files supported by the Desktop: Unlimited (limited to the >available disk space -- see HFS limit) >* Number of applications in memory: The Finder does not limit the number >of >applications, but the amount of available RAM does. >* Number of volumes available on the Desktop: 32 >* Number of items in a folder by list view: Up to 32,000 depending on the >computer and RAM. (See the note at the bottom of this article.) >* Number of resources in the System File: 32,767 or 16 Megabytes >* Number of System Extensions or Control Panels that can be loaded into >memory: The Finder does not limit these, but hard disk space and RAM can >limit them. >* RAM allocated to an application with Finder = 99,999K >* The Finder supports 24-bit color, BUT icons are only 8-bit. >* QuickDraw supports 48-bit color, but the current operating system >maximum >is 32-bit color. >* Disk cache: 320 KB per megabyte of installed RAM > >HFS Limits >---------- >* 64K items or 65,536 items per volume >* The maximum length of a pathname under the Finder--including the Volume >and Folder--is 255 characters, including colons. For example: > >InternalHD:Folder1:Folder2:Filename = 35 characters > >"Inside Macintosh, Volume IV" states that there is no limit to the number >of levels of >subdirectories. Because of pathname limitations, it is not always >possible to specify a file using >its full pathname. > >This limitation has nothing to do with the Finder; it is a limitation of >the file system. > >Note: Attempting to view large numbers of files in one window, something >in the range of 500 - >1500 files creates very slow opening times and drop-out viewing problems. >The specific number >depends on RAM and CPU. > > >Article Change History: >09 Jun 1995 - Made grammatical correction. >11 Jan 1995 - Incorporated information from article 5188. >21 Sep 1994 - Changed spec for Disk Cache. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . e l m o r e d e s i g n (9 1 8) 7 1 2 - 9 4 1 9 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Apr-1998 22:53:19-GMT,1882;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12793 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:53:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24538; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:34:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:28:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24230; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:28:53 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:22:09 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jeff Busha Subject: [PDF] Word to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello Folks: Enjoy reading about all you PDFers' ways to use the application, and apologize for this (possibly) simplistic question . . . I have many Word for Windows documents I need to convert to PDF without opening, printing to PDFWriter, etc. All are 8.5 x 11. Is it possible to use a Word macro, or is there an "idiot-proof" drag-and-drop method out there? Thanks in advance for any information. ______________________________________________ M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) ______________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 0:24:49-GMT,3309;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14772 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:24:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28006; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:00:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:55:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27694; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:55:16 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:56:22 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: [PDF] White Paper "PDF for Pre-press" To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com Message-ID: <199804021856_MC2-38CB-37B5@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA27677 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To whom it may concern: White Paper "PDF for Pre-press" A group of German and Swiss pre-press experts met earlier this year and discussed the issue, if and how PDF fits into today's and tomorrow's world of pre-press. We felt, that our findings were worth sharing, and put together a White Paper "PDF for Pre-press" which can be downloaded from www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf or www.prepress.ch/pdf_wp.pdf The White Paper has already been presented and distributed at the Seybold Seminars in New York two weeks ago. We received an overwhelming feedback and were able to initiate a lifely discussion. We are convinced that PDF is going to play a significant role in pre-press pretty soon, and felt that those who are going to actually use it should think about what it should look like in the future. If you don't shape the future the future will shape you. As already ongoing discussions show there is some space for misunderstanding the 'tone' of the White Paper - we did not intend to focus on blaming whomsoever, but would like to see that things move in the right direction as soon as possible. We are asking for Unlimited use of PDF for a totally digital pre-press production process. Anything that helps us get there is appreciated! Olaf Druemmer PDF Experts Roundtable Germany / Switzerland PS Everybody may feel free to distribute the White Paper "PDF for Pre-press" wherever suitable as long as it is not modified. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 0:37:24-GMT,5092;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15093 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:37:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA29099; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:28:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:25:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29009; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:25:36 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5E9F.7ABA90A0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Is everyone tracking Quicktime 3 licensing? Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:25:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD5E9F.7ABA90A0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5E9F.7ABA90A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Friday, 3 April, 1998 11:33, Chris Lane [SMTP:chrisl@cmpc.com] wrote: > > If you are using Movie links and distributing Quicktime movies you should be aware that Apple is cooking up some licensing changes on the new Quicktime 3.0. If you plan to distribute the Quicktime software with your PDF, start thinking about $1 per. I just took a look at this and it seems to be talking about licensing QuickTime 3.0 PRO, which looks more of a creator's tool. Different from the basic QuickTime 3.0. It wasn't clear thatr Acrobat would exploit any of the specific features of Pro. 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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:55:20 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1320582992-7122316@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dennis Walker (dennisw@inpractice.net) wrote on 4/2/98 12:35 PM: >I just launched Exchange 3.0.1 for the first time after upgrading (clean >install) to MacOS 8.1. While plugins were loading, I got the message: > >"There was an error while loading the plugin 'pdfOutput'. There was a >Macintosh system error (-42)." > >Then it came up again and again and again while loading these plugins: >ReversePages >Show Bookmarks >Super Prefs > >Finally the alert came up one last time with the same error while trying >to open the file. > >Any ideas if this is a wide-spread problem or just me? Anyone have a >solution? Follow-up and solution: I didn't realize that virtual memory is turned on by default with the 8.1 install. So as I'm accustomed, I quickly turned it off and restarted. Since then, no more (-42) errors! Sorry this turned out to be off-topic. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 2:31:56-GMT,3010;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17247 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:31:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA32436; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:59:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:56:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA32249; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:56:16 -0600 Message-ID: From: Dick Gaskill To: Dennis Walker Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] MacOS 8.1 sys error - solved! Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:57:54 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dennis, I don't think yoiur message was off-topic at all. Anything that's related to using PDF is relevant, ncluding installing, setting up, and using the tools. Keep on posting. -dg ---------- From: Dennis Walker [SMTP:dennisw@inpractice.net] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 1998 4:55 PM To: i Subject: Re: [PDF] MacOS 8.1 sys error - solved! Dennis Walker (dennisw@inpractice.net) wrote on 4/2/98 12:35 PM: >I just launched Exchange 3.0.1 for the first time after upgrading (clean >install) to MacOS 8.1. While plugins were loading, I got the message: > >"There was an error while loading the plugin 'pdfOutput'. There was a >Macintosh system error (-42)." > >Then it came up again and again and again while loading these plugins: >ReversePages >Show Bookmarks >Super Prefs > >Finally the alert came up one last time with the same error while trying >to open the file. > >Any ideas if this is a wide-spread problem or just me? Anyone have a >solution? Follow-up and solution: I didn't realize that virtual memory is turned on by default with the 8.1 install. So as I'm accustomed, I quickly turned it off and restarted. Since then, no more (-42) errors! Sorry this turned out to be off-topic. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 2:39:03-GMT,2357;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17361 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:39:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00678; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:24:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:21:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00541; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:21:31 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:23:11 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: kingkern@mail.eclipse.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804021744.LAA10197@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jim kramer Subject: RE: [PDF] need help on Mac Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:47:11 +0100 >From: Aandi Inston >Subject: RE: [PDF] need help on Mac > >On Thursday, 2 April, 1998 03:24, jim kramer [SMTP:kingkern@eclipse.net] >wrote: >> >> as far as i've noticed, the postscript error generated is typecheck, the >> offending command is status. >> >> doesnt matter what application the original file was built in. nor if i use >> the acrobat driver or the laserwriter driver. > >This is not a Distiller issue. It is a problem with the 3.01 release of >Exchange >and Reader; Adobe apparently don't know how to write clean level 1 PostScript >any more. There is a work-around for this specific problem on my PostScript >errors page http://www.quite.com/ps/errors.htm. Or, go back to 3.0 if you >have antedeluvian PostScript printers. > >Aandi worked great! much better than the alternatives (e.g. buying a new printer) thanks Jim Kramer _________________________________________________________ *Every* day is a beautiful day. --Elwood P. Dowd +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 3:06:16-GMT,8937;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17784 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:06:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA01333; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:38:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:35:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01224; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:35:44 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5EED.B2DB0480@stpfl4-51.gate.net> From: Chris Lane To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Is everyone tracking Quicktime 3 licensing? Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:46:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD5EED.B2E2A5A0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5EED.B2E2A5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is some of the Quicktime license wordage. My understanding is that = if you want to include the Quicktime software (3.0 or Pro) you must pay = royalty unless you follow the requirements of the waiver which include = installing an Apple Quicktime Ad on the users Desktop every time your = program runs (which will piss most users off to no end). As I said = before, Apple is getting enough heat that this may change... I recommend = turning up the heat if its important to you. Personally I have no = problem paying a lot for the developers side, or even a Pro version of = the runtime (god knows Apple deserves it). Just leave a free viewer = option with no restrictions or I think people will be abandoning = Quicktime in favor of other free runtime options without restrictions. "5.1 License Fees . Licensee shall pay to Apple a license fee of One and No/100 Dollars ($1.00) for each copy of Licensee Programs that include = all or any part of the Apple Software distributed by Licensee pursuant to = this Agreement unless such license fee is waived under Paragraph 5.2." An Exempt Program must meet the following criteria: (a) Upon installation of such Licensee Program, the installer program = must cause the file =B3Get QuickTime Pro=B2 (for Licensee Programs that = operate under MacOS) or =B3Get QuickTime Pro.mov=B2 (for Licensee Programs that operate under Windows) to be played for the End User; and (b) Each time such Licensee Program is launched by the End User, the Licensee Program must cause the file =B3Get QuickTime Pro=B2 (for = Licensee Programs that operate under MacOS) or =B3Get QuickTime Pro.mov=B2 (for Licensee Programs that operate under Windows) to be installed on = the desktop of the system on which the Licensee Program is being used unless (i) the file is already there, or (ii) the End User has QuickTime 3.0 Pro = installed on his or her system. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 1998 7:25 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: Is everyone tracking Quicktime 3 licensing? On Friday, 3 April, 1998 11:33, Chris Lane [SMTP:chrisl@cmpc.com] wrote: >=20 > If you are using Movie links and distributing Quicktime movies you = should be aware that Apple is cooking up some licensing changes on the = new Quicktime 3.0. If you plan to distribute the Quicktime software = with your PDF, start thinking about $1 per.=20 I just took a look at this and it seems to be talking about licensing = QuickTime 3.0 PRO, which looks more of a creator's tool. Different from the basic QuickTime 3.0. It = wasn't clear thatr Acrobat would exploit any of the specific features of Pro. 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http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 4:28:06-GMT,3823;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19073 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:28:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA04773; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:05:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:02:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04594; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:02:15 -0600 Message-ID: <3524FAD0.B30@realworld.com.au> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 02:06:02 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Quicktime 3 liscensing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would like to add to Chris Lane's warning abot QT3. If you have been using QT and have a current liscence or are planning to use Qt for any projects especially soon, you better get over to the Apple site and make your feelings known. In a nutshell the changes with QT3 are that for developers to get the same functionality they are used to with QT2.X you need to pay US$30(So far no prob) Quicktime is so important to my business I would pay $300! to get access to QT (Dont tell that to Apple!) The problem is distribution of the installer. As the developer you need to pay Apple US$1 PER CD!. The only exemption to this is if you include Appple's Get Movie file which launches a quictime movie/advertisement to the end user EACH TIME they launch your application. This is a disgraceful clumsy intrusion on both our products which we put together and on the unsuspecting user who is going to be "very pissed off" as Chris says. ( Imagine this happening on your own computer) As developers we need to be vocal to Apple in telling them that this form of liscensing is unnacceptable and complete madness. One of the few times when Apple has actually seen off the challenge from Microsoft (.avi files - Video for Windows) and they go and shoot themselves in the foot like this. We recently did a small run CD-Rom project of about 1,500 Cd's for a conference the budget was under AU$10 - 15,000 for the entire project which included 6 small 30 sec QT clips. I can assure you my client would have screamed at the "Get Movie" idea and there was no budget for the US$1,500 (AU$2,160) fee, the project would have gone ahead without QT since it needed to be cross platform and avi is not an option for the MAC.... what then? Quicktime is an excellent cross platform resouce for all multimedia developers including those of us working in Acrobat. God knows Apple deserve a decent dollar for it especially QT3, as I stated earlier I don't expect it for nothing, but forcing the end users to watch an advertisement for a DEVELOPERS version of QT as the only alternative to paying US$1 per disc is ludicrous. I strongly urge you all list members to think carefully about the ramifications of this change in Apple's liscensing and make your opinions known to them via their site, this list, the QT developers list(where they are being publicly flogged) and their corporate site. Regards Dean ( I still love the QT Technology at a fair price) Laffan Real World Productions email@realworld.com.au +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 8:12:26-GMT,3318;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA23163 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:12:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA11193; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:50:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:47:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA11002; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:47:16 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5EDD.B70B5B00.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Word to PDF Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:41:53 +0100 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The question: I have many Word for Windows documents I need to convert to PDF without opening, printing to PDFWriter, etc. All are 8.5 x 11. Is it possible to use a Word macro, or is there an "idiot-proof" drag-and-drop method out there? Local Render will allow you to process batches of files manually (ie select list to process) or has a fully command line interface for integration with a process. For more details check out: www.docctrl.com for eval software contact me: davec@docctrl.com Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Busha [SMTP:jeff@marcomm.com] Sent: 03 April 1998 01:22 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Word to PDF Hello Folks: Enjoy reading about all you PDFers' ways to use the application, and apologize for this (possibly) simplistic question . . . I have many Word for Windows documents I need to convert to PDF without opening, printing to PDFWriter, etc. All are 8.5 x 11. Is it possible to use a Word macro, or is there an "idiot-proof" drag-and-drop method out there? Thanks in advance for any information. ______________________________________________ M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) ______________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 13:11:58-GMT,1366;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27553 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:11:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA18276; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:42:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:34:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18023; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:34:52 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412565DB.004A9329.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:35:59 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] MS Index Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Bill, Do you mean Microsoft Index Server? If so, you can download the PDFiFilter at adobe's site. Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 16:54:26-GMT,2083;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01701 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:54:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28663; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:33:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:30:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28495; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:30:12 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:31:53 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick West To: Acrobat list post Subject: Re: [PDF] Quicktime 3 liscensing In-Reply-To: <3524FAD0.B30@realworld.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Folks, I don't use QT, couldn't care less about QT and don't feel a list about PDF is the place to whine and moan about Apple, QT or licencing. Your concerns may be valid but they have nothing to do with Acrobat or PDF. Nor is QT a concern unless we run MacOS or market to MacOS platform. Dean Laffan wrote > I strongly urge you all list members to think carefully about the > ramifications of this change in Apple's liscensing and make your > opinions known to them via their site, this list, the QT developers > list(where they are being publicly flogged) and their corporate site. Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 17:13:17-GMT,2113;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02215 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:13:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA30126; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:02:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:58:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29910; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:58:19 -0600 Message-ID: <35251657.EC4041DB@intranetsol.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 11:03:19 -0600 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] using FDF data and a doc template to create a PDF? How??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am very new to this stuff, so please bear with my novice questions... I am writing a CGI program in C that must recieve form data in FDF format, and use that data to create a PDF doc from a template (the same one the user filled out online). I figure there must be a way to set the values of form fields in a PDF file. Are there some API fucntion calls tha thandle this stuff? I will need to do the following 1) open a PDF file (the same form the user filled out online) 2) populate it's form fields with the data I received via the CGI call. 3) save that filled-out form to a new pdf file. Thanks for any help! ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 17:54:18-GMT,3345;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03163 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:54:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA31289; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:27:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:24:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31138; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:24:24 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565DB.005E398B.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:23:45 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Word to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jeff: Here's a semi-automated way to do this that you might already know about: Open Word, select FILE>PRINT, select a PS printer and PRINT TO FILE. Close the dialog box (Make sure that this holds). Open Explorer and the folder where your files are selected. Highlight the files Right click and select PRINT The first file opens in the background and a dialog box opens for you to select the file name and location. You can see the Word doc file name in the background so it makes naming the PS files pretty easy and quick. The Word file closes. The next file opens, and so on and so on until they're all printed to file. If you've selected a watched file at the location for the PS files, they are converted to PDF "automatically". Of course, if you have thousands of documents this might still be too much time to spend on conversion. But, we've found it to work well for us. Sue Jeff Busha on 04/02/98 04:22:09 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Word to PDF Hello Folks: Enjoy reading about all you PDFers' ways to use the application, and apologize for this (possibly) simplistic question . . . I have many Word for Windows documents I need to convert to PDF without opening, printing to PDFWriter, etc. All are 8.5 x 11. Is it possible to use a Word macro, or is there an "idiot-proof" drag-and-drop method out there? Thanks in advance for any information. ______________________________________________ M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) ______________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 18:09:01-GMT,2512;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03549 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:09:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA32760; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:57:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:55:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32599; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:55:06 -0600 From: Freddy_Flake@prenhall.com To: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors? Message-Id: <"0403175712-EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors?"@MHS> Date: 03 Apr 1998 12:55:58 -0500 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am supporting the development of a design/ routing approval workflow which will include PDF and REmark. Users will be using a diversity of platforms to view and markup the PDFS. In original tests the PDF was attached to email as the delivery mechanism. We are investigating the option of FTP as delivery, however supporting a group with such diverse platforms, different FTP access software and varying levels of FTP experience is why we are considering email. First - What some of the potential problems with PDF email attachment? Are there file size limits, format, compression issues? Second - These are some the errors one of my users have gotten attempting to open a PDF file which was attached to email. The errors occured, but the file, when visually compared to supplied hardcopy viewed OK. Some insight to the nature of these errors would be helpul. These messages occured sequentially and individually in different combinations. Here they are: There was an error reading page# near the contents: BX/GS1 gs EX An unrecognized token 'BX' was found ((OK)) There were # unrecongnized tokens on this pp.--do youwant to continue (no) ((YES)). There were # parsing errors on this page ((OK)) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 19:36:46-GMT,2984;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05810 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:36:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04428; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:27:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:23:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04147; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:23:30 -0600 Message-ID: <352536AF.67E6@tamu.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 13:21:19 -0600 From: Bill Watson Organization: agcom X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Quicktime 3 liscensing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Patrick West wrote: > > Folks, > > I don't use QT, couldn't care less about QT and don't feel a list about > PDF is the place to whine and moan about Apple, QT or licencing. Your > concerns may be valid but they have nothing to do with Acrobat or PDF. > Nor is QT a concern unless we run MacOS or market to MacOS platform. > > Dean Laffan wrote > > I strongly urge you all list members to think carefully about the > > ramifications of this change in Apple's liscensing and make your > > opinions known to them via their site, this list, the QT developers > > list(where they are being publicly flogged) and their corporate site. > > Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp > PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D > Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Patrick, Your message is a little perplexing to me. QT is an important adjunct to pdf. As well, the windows community makes wide use of QT as a viewer. Though complaints against Apple may not be germaine to this list, discussion of QT certainly is. QT offers a great deal of added functionality to PDFs in both the Mac and Windows environments. -- Bill Watson (bs-watson@tamu.edu) Agricultural Communications Unit Texas Agricultural Extension Service (409) 845-2898 (409) 862-1202 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 19:37:50-GMT,2054;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05832 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:37:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04580; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:29:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:25:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04299; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:25:35 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: pccare@teleport.com Message-ID: <852565DB.0069273F.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:27:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Quicktime 3 liscensing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mr. West: I am afraid you are quite wrong about not being concerned about Apples's licensing policies unless you develop for the Mac OS. Many pdf and multimedia developers embed Quicktime movies in their products for the PC. It is one of very few cross-platform (Win 3.1, NT351, NT4, Win95) formats that you can produce and reasonably expect almost all users to either already have the requisite player software or you can distribute it along with your PDFs and get results far superior to AVI or mpeg without additional hardware support even on low end PCs. I would be equally concerned if Microsoft suddenly insisted on showing a "BUY MS OFFICE" splashscreen ad to everyone who opened a PDF that happened to originate in Word. Regards, Rick Bishop PRP Media Houston +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 19:41:10-GMT,2219;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05905 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:41:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA03256; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:08:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:05:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03100; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:05:23 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5F3B.ECC6C280.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors? Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:51:58 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Friday, 3 April, 1998 18:56, Freddy_Flake@prenhall.com [SMTP:Freddy_Flake@prenhall.com] wrote: > > We are investigating the option of FTP as delivery, however supporting a group > with such diverse platforms, different FTP access software and varying levels of > FTP experience is why we are considering email. That is EXACTLY why you should not use mail. It is very much less robust and standardised than superficial experiments suggest. > > > First - What some of the potential problems with PDF email attachment? > Are there file size limits, format, compression issues? Yes, different for each mail sending and receiving program, ISP and mail gateway. Some ISPs enforce arbitrary and variable size limits. Attachments can't always be retrieved intact even if untruncated. Find another way. I'd recommend a private web site (password protected). Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 19:49:25-GMT,1577;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06079 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:49:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04858; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:34:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:30:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04685; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:30:27 -0600 From: ben_hechter@nortel-nsm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NORTEL-NSM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: <98Apr3.113643pst.32259@teleport.nortel-nsm.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:39:50 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Frame 5.5 Hyperlink Markers to PDFMarks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Has anyone validated the claims that Frame 5.5 brings better translation of Frame hyperlink markers to PDFmarks? I'm thinking specifically of - Back (step back through the hyperlink stack) - Popups PS I vote that the QT 3.0 discussion is relevant. Best Regards, Ben Hechter Instructional Designer Nortel Vancouver Canada +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 20:07:56-GMT,2050;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06546 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:07:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05355; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:43:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:41:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05219; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:41:08 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565DB.006B0984.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:42:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Freddy: Although I can't recall specifics, I believe there is a history of pdf file headers becoming corrupted by certain email applications. I would suggest that the only way to guarantee success would be to encourage use of the same email by all. I personally have had excellent results with Eudora Lite (free) for retrieving large files. I only crank it up when I know I'm getting a file over 1MB up to 35 MB on 28.8 at home. I know others that have successfully emailed over 70MB with Eudora and a fast connection Just put a code in the subject line and set your current mail app to not download files over a certain size or that have the code. Then get them with Eudora. Maybe someone else can advise on the different platform issue. Rick Bishop PRP Media Houston +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 21:03:43-GMT,1660;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08053 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:03:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07368; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:31:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:27:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07198; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:27:17 -0600 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:32:32 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: [PDF] EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I can attest to that. No common solution for email attachments. Website download the better way to go. >>>>>> Yes, different for each mail sending and receiving program, ISP and mail gateway. Some ISPs enforce arbitrary and variable size limits. Attachments can't always be retrieved intact even if untruncated. Find another way. I'd recommend a private web site (password protected). <<<<<< Murray +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 21:06:33-GMT,3083;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08113 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:06:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07956; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:46:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:43:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07771; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:43:05 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980403204409.00d6bf34@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 12:44:09 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Quicktime 3 licensing Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Amen to Mr. Bishop's comments, and one more thing: In case anyone thinks QT is going away, think again, because it was recently adopted as the underlying file format for MPEG-4. Expecting the worst, just imagine having every piece of video interrupted by an Apple promo! I'm sure it won't come to that, but this kind of stuff has got to be nipped in the bud. I certainly don't plan on distributing QT on any of my CD-ROMs (which have indexed PDFs as their primary content) until this nonsense is removed from the license terms. My customers would simply not tolerate it, and I would not want to deface my product in such a manner. Tom Thiersch At 02:27 PM 4/3/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >Mr. West: I am afraid you are quite wrong about not being concerned about >Apples's licensing policies unless you develop for the Mac OS. Many pdf >and multimedia developers embed Quicktime movies in their products for the >PC. It is one of very few cross-platform (Win 3.1, NT351, NT4, Win95) >formats that you can produce and reasonably expect almost all users to >either already have the requisite player software or you can distribute it >along with your PDFs and get results far superior to AVI or mpeg without >additional hardware support even on low end PCs. > I would be equally concerned if Microsoft suddenly insisted on showing a >"BUY MS OFFICE" splashscreen ad to everyone who opened a PDF that happened >to originate in Word. >Regards, >Rick Bishop >PRP Media >Houston > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 21:08:49-GMT,2368;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08174 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:08:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08330; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:53:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:51:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08204; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:51:00 -0600 From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf to html Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:55:00 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <98Apr3.154820est.115586@gateway.lrp.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks much for your input. As it turns out, Forte was just released yesterday and it has really good features as well as Redwing. Also, yes LRP Publications is one in the same. I had to ask around as I'm pretty new here. Thanks Donna ---------- From: Tony McKinley To: dmeyer@lrp.com Subject: RE: pdf to html Date: Thursday, April 02, 1998 5:46PM Donna, Saw your post on pdf-l. Redwing is the name of a product that does formatted text extraction from PDF, and it works very well. Emerge sells it at their web site. A product called Forte by BCL does the same thing, and it got a standing ovation at Seybold PDF Developers session recently. Access is designed for voice output, for visually impaired readers for example. It's primitive, and barely suggests what the above products do. Hope that helps. P.s. Are you the LRP Publications that was a customer of my first start-up, I-Scan? Regards, Tony -- Tony McKinley Intelligent Imaging mailto:tonymck@imagebiz.com - Voice: 610.647.5570 >From Paper to Web - http://imagebiz.com/PaperWeb ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - Internet Expert Editor's Recommended Book at AMAZON.com!!! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Apr-1998 23:04:19-GMT,3225;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10927 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:04:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12687; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:33:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:30:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12535; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:30:10 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <"0403175712-EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors?"@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 00:22:03 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors? Cc: Freddy_Flake@prenhall.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Freddy, there are some problems when sending PDF files as mail attachments. Some mail systems treat it as a text file and do some character conversions. This then messes up the file. However, you can compress the PDF, and then it will be transferred OK. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _____________ >I am supporting the development of a design/ routing approval workflow which >will include PDF and REmark. > >Users will be using a diversity of platforms to view and markup the PDFS. > >In original tests the PDF was attached to email as the delivery mechanism. > >We are investigating the option of FTP as delivery, however supporting a group >with such diverse platforms, different FTP access software and varying >levels of >FTP experience is why we are considering email. > > >First - What some of the potential problems with PDF email attachment? > Are there file size limits, format, compression issues? > > >Second - These are some the errors one of my users have gotten >attempting to > open a PDF file which was attached to email. The errors >occured, but > the file, when visually compared to supplied hardcopy viewed >OK. > Some insight to the nature of these errors would be helpul. >These > messages occured sequentially and individually in different > > combinations. Here they are: > >There was an error reading page# near the contents: BX/GS1 gs EX An >unrecognized token 'BX' was found ((OK)) > > >There were # unrecongnized tokens on this pp.--do youwant to continue (no) >((YES)). > > >There were # parsing errors on this page ((OK)) > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Apr-1998 2:50:31-GMT,1863;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15193 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:50:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA20837; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:12:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:08:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20666; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:08:26 -0600 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Forms Usage Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:29:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello - Having not used forms before, I'd like to know if I'm having a valid "brainstorm" on a project I have in mind. We have a FrameMaker template for a short document called a Mod Kit, which is mostly a lined table with part number entries. The person who will be maintaining input for these documents does not have FrameMaker. Would it make sense to turn the FrameMaker document into a PDF Form, and have her fill out the forms and retain them as the documents of record? Can forms be filled out by using Reader? Or do you need full Acrobat? Thanks!! Rebecca Callaway +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Apr-1998 4:02:18-GMT,2725;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16393 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:02:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23558; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:40:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:37:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23434; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:37:31 -0600 Message-Id: <199804040339.WAA09165@dax.cc.uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:37:51 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms Usage In-reply-to: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 3 Apr 98 at 15:29, Callaway, Rebecca wrote: > > Hello - > > Having not used forms before, I'd like to know if I'm having a valid > "brainstorm" on a project I have in mind. > > We have a FrameMaker template for a short document called a Mod Kit, > which is mostly a lined table with part number entries. The person > who will be maintaining input for these documents does not have > FrameMaker. > > Would it make sense to turn the FrameMaker document into a PDF Form, > and have her fill out the forms and retain them as the documents of > record? > > Can forms be filled out by using Reader? Or do you need full Acrobat? > Reader can be used to fill out forms, but Reader cannot save the forms data to a file; only Exchange can do that. Reader can submit the forms data to a webserver and the webserver, through CGI script, can save the data to a file or store it in a data base. Regards, dps Dr. D. P. Story Department of Mathematical Sciences The University of Akron Akron, OH 44325 tele: (330) 972-7514 e-mail: dpstory@uakron.edu Home Page: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Home of ... e-Calculus: A Calculus I Tutorial on the WeB. Written in TeX and converted to the PDF format. See it at http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html and of ... An Algebra Review in 10 Lessons TeX to PDF http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Apr-1998 11:15:32-GMT,2872;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23065 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 04:15:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA02279; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 04:46:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Apr 1998 04:43:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02162; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 04:42:59 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 12:41:36 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms Usage Cc: "Callaway, Rebecca" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rebecca, I would have to know a bit more about your form (essentially how much post-processing it would need), to say whether it is a good idea or an excellent idea to get it to PDF. Forms can be filled out with the Reader (if you add the Acrobat Forms 3.5 plug-in, you get even more functionality, such as calculation or verification). Forms can be printed from the Reader, Forms can be submitted electronically from the Reader running under Netscape Navigator (MS Internet Explorer seems to work most of the time too). But Forms can not be saved from the Reader. If you need this ability, you would need Exchange. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________ >Hello - > >Having not used forms before, I'd like to know if I'm having a valid >"brainstorm" on a project I have in mind. > >We have a FrameMaker template for a short document called a Mod Kit, >which is mostly a lined table with part number entries. The person who >will be maintaining input for these documents does not have FrameMaker. > >Would it make sense to turn the FrameMaker document into a PDF Form, and >have her fill out the forms and retain them as the documents of record? > >Can forms be filled out by using Reader? Or do you need full Acrobat? > >Thanks!! > >Rebecca Callaway +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Apr-1998 21:01:11-GMT,1556;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01779 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:01:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19031; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:31:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:25:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18771; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:25:21 -0600 Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 12:27:04 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick West To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Quicktime 3 liscensing In-Reply-To: <01BD5F9D.6FD86A00@stpfl3-54.gate.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Folks, Based on the volume of messages I've received I am clearly in the wrong on this topic. Sorry. Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 7:22:32-GMT,1634;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04308 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:22:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA09753; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:54:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:47:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09536; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:46:58 -0500 X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:47:02 +1200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: [PDF] emailing pdfs, how too ? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hello all I 'm having trouble emnailing pdfs'. I do not convert them to any other format but when they arrive the recipient cannot open them? Can you help? ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 8:03:08-GMT,2539;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04902 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:03:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA10853; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:38:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:35:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA10785; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:35:26 -0500 Message-ID: <350042D2.7E38@realworld.com.au> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 05:39:17 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] QT Licence Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All I have just been off line for a few days and caught up on my emails including Patrick West's comments and other listers reponses to my original post. I think the other posts cover my reponse but I would like to briefly respond to Patrick's comments about me having a "whine and moan" about Apple. Apple gave absolutely no prior notice that were going to make such drastic changes to the previous licensing arrangements and my greatest concern and the reason for the post was this: A lot of developers are going to be in the same pickle as me. They have spent considerable time, sometimes months building a project which is close to release and have been usiing the QT3 beta and fully planning to include QT in their release. The changes to the licensing have extremely serious ramifications to those projects. The other point was I wanted the list to be aware of the new licence conditions as they stand (And may continue to stand) in case listers assumed that they could just stick QT on your discs, (as has always been the case), and distribute. In this case you would be in breach of the Apple licence and potentially leave youselves open to recourse by Apple. Regards Dean Laffan Real World Productions +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 9:28:32-GMT,2235;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06319 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 03:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA12950; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 04:05:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 04:02:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12851; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 04:02:31 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:02:08 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] emailing pdfs, how too ? Cc: "Andrew R. Both" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Andrew, On what kind of platform are you? Which emnail software are you using? What kind of error messages does the client get? Many problems with sending PDFs by e-mail are connected to some software in the mail system which believe that it is a good thing to change some characters in a text message. This can of course totally mess up a PDF file. So, to make sure that the PDF does arrive uncorrupted, you would have to send it compressed. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________ >hello all > >I 'm having trouble emnailing pdfs'. I do not convert them to any other >format but when they arrive the recipient cannot open them? Can you help? > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 11:03:55-GMT,1713;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07723 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:03:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA15115; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:41:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:38:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15028; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:38:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "WongJohn (FXMHQ MYS)" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] What's the maximum size the Distiller 3.0 can convert to PDF? Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:06:56 PDT X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi! Can someone out there tell me the maximum size of the input postscript which the Distiller 3.0 on Win 95 or NT 4.0 can handle? If no maximum, then is there a recommended optimal size of postscript source before the distilling time degrades. Thanks in advance. Rgds, >John. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 11:06:16-GMT,2038;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07776 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:06:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA15292; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:47:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:45:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15242; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:45:41 -0500 X-Sender: agodbout@10.0.0.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:36:53 -0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: agodbout@mccurdy.ns.ca (Alain Godbout) Subject: Re: [PDF] emailing pdfs, how too ? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've just gone through grief with thi s well. On the Mac: 'Stuffit' On the PC: 'WinZip' or 'PKZip' >hello all > >I 'm having trouble emnailing pdfs'. I do not convert them to any other >format but when they arrive the recipient cannot open them? Can you help? > >___________________________________________________ > >"Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." > Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. >___________________________________________________ > > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 11:33:39-GMT,2100;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08117 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:33:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA15915; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:11:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:09:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15814; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:09:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] What's the maximum size the Distiller 3.0 can convert to PDF? Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:07:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd614c$812f2040$64f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There is no maximum, and the speed should not degrade with an increased number of pages. The memory requirements of PostScript, unfortunately, have almost no relationship to the size of the file. I can write a 2 line PostScript file that will exhaust the available memory in every case. > > > Hi! Can someone out there tell me the maximum size of the input > postscript which the Distiller 3.0 on Win 95 or NT 4.0 can handle? If > no maximum, then is there a recommended optimal size of postscript > source before the distilling time degrades. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 11:44:06-GMT,2063;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08226 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:44:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA16078; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:17:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:14:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15992; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:14:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199804061114.GAA15988@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] What's the maximum size the Distiller 3.0 can convert Date: Mon, 6 Apr 98 13:16:33 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Hi! Can someone out there tell me the maximum size of the input >postscript which the Distiller 3.0 on Win 95 or NT 4.0 can handle? If >no maximum, then is there a recommended optimal size of postscript >source before the distilling time degrades. I think what you should control is not absolute size, but parameters like: - downsampling on/off; - postscript complex functions; - number of fonts; A 10 MB postscript file containing only a bitmap image without need of downsampling and/or compression can distill in lower time than a 500 KB file with complex blending functions, paths and subsetted fonts. In a general approach, Distiller is a particular kind of Postscript interpreter, so you can apply the same considerations as another PS RIP (Level 2). Andrea +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 12:52:39-GMT,1907;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09210 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:52:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18130; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:31:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:29:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18039; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:29:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:29:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804061229.HAA09976@unlinfo.unl.edu> X-Sender: jnakada@popmail.unl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu (Jeanette Nakada) Subject: [PDF] How to update pdf files on ongoing basis Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 4/5/98 Some pdf files will be updated every few months or so, perhaps more often. What is the most efficient way to edit/update .pdf documents without having to reinstate links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc with every update? In other words, do I update the MSWord document(s) each time, save as .pdf, insert pages, and redo links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc? My fear is that if I edit only the .pdf file, it will become a different animal that the original document--the MSWord file. I want all "versions" to be identical. Jeanette Nakada Production Coordinator University of Nebraska Press +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 13:00:30-GMT,2943;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09330 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:00:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18728; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:45:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:43:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18591; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:43:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3528CE61.B4C0C767@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 08:45:21 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] emailing pdfs, how too ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Max Wyss wrote: > > Many problems with sending PDFs by e-mail are connected to some software in > the mail system which believe that it is a good thing to change some > characters in a text message. This can of course totally mess up a PDF > file. So, to make sure that the PDF does arrive uncorrupted, you would have > to send it compressed. I routinely send binary PDFs via email without compression with complete success using Netscape Communicator 4.x. It seems to me the underlying issue is that the mail attachment needs to be recognized as a binary file and encoded, not that compression is used per se. It sounds like some email packages may not recognize PDF as a binary format (indeed, if it is ASCII format), but they will recognize a .Z or a .zip or a .sit as such and encode it. Encoding should protect pretty well against the standard risk of email servers corrupting binary data, but of course there is no money-back guarantee. 8) So to be clear, IMHO it is not specifically compression that is helping you, but rather that compression stores the document in a format that the email package recognizes as binary and therefore encodes. Given your situation, compression may either help you or just provide an additional step that wastes your time. Also a common problem is message truncation, in which case the recipient will receive only part of the attachment. If this is your problem, then email transfer is probably not going to work for you unless you have some degree of control over the problem mail server's configuration. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 13:42:47-GMT,1888;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10042 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:42:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA19878; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:14:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:11:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19744; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:11:44 -0500 Message-ID: <19980406131013.27357.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:10:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Iain Gibson Subject: [PDF] Overlaying Graphics not printing!! To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, We have created PDF's from Word and are having problems printing the WordArt sections. The overlayed text which is white, shows up OK on screen but when it is printed it disapears on some printers!!!. This white text is overlayed on a Black or dark background. Is there a problem with the PDF settings we are using or is the printer to blame? This maybe to do with which layers it is printing first! or I might be talking Kak! TIA Iain === Cleanliness is next to impossible. -- O'Reilly's law of the kitchen _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 13:51:52-GMT,1885;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10200 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:51:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA21065; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:40:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:38:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20925; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:38:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:38:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804061338.IAA16937@unlinfo.unl.edu> X-Sender: jnakada@popmail.unl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu (Jeanette Nakada) Subject: [PDF] updating pdf files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 4/5/98 Some pdf files will be updated every few months or so, perhaps more often. What is the most efficient way to edit/update .pdf documents without having to reinstate links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc with every update? In other words, do I update the MSWord document(s) each time, save as .pdf, insert pages, and redo links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc? My fear is that if I edit only the .pdf file, it will become a different animal that the original document--the MSWord file. I want all "versions" to be identical. Jeanette Nakada Production Coordinator University of Nebraska Press +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 13:59:11-GMT,2656;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10340 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:59:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA21042; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:40:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:36:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20765; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:36:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980406064028.007fc210@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 06:40:28 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] How to update pdf files on ongoing basis In-Reply-To: <199804061229.HAA09976@unlinfo.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Not knowing your exact document needs, you might consider switching to FrameMaker (if possible). It automatically converts all x-refs, TOC, Index and even creates the bookmarks. This way all you have to do is update your Frame file as needed, create the PDF, and everything is up to date. At 07:29 AM 4/6/98 -0500, you wrote: > >4/5/98 > >Some pdf files will be updated every few months or so, perhaps more often. >What is the most efficient way to edit/update .pdf documents without having >to reinstate links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc with every update? > >In other words, do I update the MSWord document(s) each time, save as .pdf, >insert pages, and redo links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc? > >My fear is that if I edit only the .pdf file, it will become a different >animal that the original document--the MSWord file. I want all "versions" to >be identical. > >Jeanette Nakada >Production Coordinator >University of Nebraska Press > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 15:25:24-GMT,2166;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12185 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:25:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24061; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:54:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:50:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23905; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:50:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] emailing pdfs, how too ? Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:53:33 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1320269682-25769737@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Alain Godbout (agodbout@mccurdy.ns.ca) wrote on 4/6/98 3:36 AM: >I've just gone through grief with thi s well. > >On the Mac: 'Stuffit' >On the PC: 'WinZip' or 'PKZip' > >>hello all >> >>I 'm having trouble emnailing pdfs'. I do not convert them to any other >>format but when they arrive the recipient cannot open them? Can you help? This is not good advice in my opinion, as neither "stuff" method alone provides encoding which is what is needed to protect the files. I frequently send PDF from a Mac to both Macs and PCs. My PDFs are generally compressed by Distiller, so I don't apply any further compression. But using the email client, I apply Base64 encoding, and everyone is able to open them fine. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 15:42:21-GMT,3128;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12604 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:42:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA25526; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:27:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:23:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25360; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:23:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6178.EEC06D40.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] updating pdf files Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:25:56 +0100 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jeanette Nakada wrote: >In other words, do I update the MSWord document(s) each time, save as .pdf, >insert pages, and redo links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc? Our Local Render product will automatically convert MS Word to PDF (through PDFwriter or Distiller) and maintain all X-refs, Web Links and will convert heading levels to bookmarks. More information from: www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Jeanette Nakada [SMTP:jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu] Sent: 06 April 1998 14:39 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] updating pdf files 4/5/98 Some pdf files will be updated every few months or so, perhaps more often. What is the most efficient way to edit/update .pdf documents without having to reinstate links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc with every update? In other words, do I update the MSWord document(s) each time, save as .pdf, insert pages, and redo links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc? My fear is that if I edit only the .pdf file, it will become a different animal that the original document--the MSWord file. I want all "versions" to be identical. Jeanette Nakada Production Coordinator University of Nebraska Press +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 15:54:25-GMT,2171;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12975 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:54:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA25530; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:27:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:22:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25314; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:22:57 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6178.D70C01A0.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How to update pdf files on ongoing basis Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:23:45 +0100 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Scott Hamlow said: >Not knowing your exact document needs, you might consider switching to >FrameMaker (if possible). It automatically converts all x-refs, TOC, Index >and even creates the bookmarks. This way all you have to do is update your >Frame file as needed, create the PDF, and everything is up to date. Our Local Render product will allow you to do this with Word. More information from: www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat ----------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 15:59:42-GMT,1691;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13121 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:59:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA26358; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:40:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:37:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26079; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:37:23 -0500 Message-ID: <199804061140560990.00360592@mail> In-Reply-To: <01BD6178.D70C01A0.davec@docctrl.com> References: <01BD6178.D70C01A0.davec@docctrl.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Evaluation Version 2.40.40 Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:40:57 -0400 From: "Andrew Webber" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] How to update pdf files on ongoing basis Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 06-Apr-98, at 4:23 PM, David Cornwell wrote: >Our Local Render product will allow you to do this with Word. More information from: www.docctrl.com Is there a product that will do this for WordPerfect files? andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries "Since 1990" P.O. Box 8676, Station T, Ottawa, Ontario K1G 3J1 613-523-3699 / Fax 613-523-6893 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 16:37:37-GMT,2698;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14023 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:37:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA26927; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:50:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:47:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26709; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:47:16 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980406085122.007f0440@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 08:51:22 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] emailing pdfs, how too ? In-Reply-To: <1320269682-25769737@mail.inpractice.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 But for people who may not be able to apply Base64 encoding, is a good solution. At 08:53 AM 4/6/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Alain Godbout (agodbout@mccurdy.ns.ca) wrote on 4/6/98 3:36 AM: > >>I've just gone through grief with thi s well. >> >>On the Mac: 'Stuffit' >>On the PC: 'WinZip' or 'PKZip' >> >>>hello all >>> >>>I 'm having trouble emnailing pdfs'. I do not convert them to any other >>>format but when they arrive the recipient cannot open them? Can you help? > >This is not good advice in my opinion, as neither "stuff" method alone >provides encoding which is what is needed to protect the files. I >frequently send PDF from a Mac to both Macs and PCs. My PDFs are >generally compressed by Distiller, so I don't apply any further >compression. But using the email client, I apply Base64 encoding, and >everyone is able to open them fine. > >Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net >EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 >InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 17:36:23-GMT,2086;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15326 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:36:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA30023; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:04:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:00:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29823; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:00:15 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565DE.005A1D55.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:01:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Overlaying Graphics not printing!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Since there have been no immediate responses: I don't use WordArt, but this sounds like an embedded windows metafile that has been rotated. It sometimes inverts black and white or has the layers in the wrong order when sent to a postscript printer or placed in some layout programs. I think it likely that you will have to create your images elsewhere and import or be sure no portion of the art is rotated. Text deformed by WordArt are rotated images. Rick Bishop >>>>>>>>>.Lain wrote: PDF's from Word and are having problems printing the WordArt sections. The overlayed text which is white, shows up OK on screen but when it is printed it disapears on some printers!!!. This white text is overlayed on a Black or dark background. Is there a problem with the PDF settings we are using or is the printer to blame? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 17:36:28-GMT,1611;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15330 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:36:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA30584; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:16:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:12:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30433; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:12:39 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271C6FDE@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Custom Page Sizes from MS word 97->Distiller w/PDFMaker Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:09:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would like to create a screen sized page using Word 97 (8.89 x 6.67) landscape. No matter what I do in the page setup in Word, the resultant page size is in Acrobat is 11 x 8.5. I'm using the macro that automatically runs Distiller. I tried using several different PS printers all to no avail. Any ideas? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 17:37:38-GMT,1851;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15348 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:37:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA30529; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:14:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:10:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30335; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:10:50 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:12:45 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Paul Schulte Subject: [PDF] EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors? - Reply Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I am supporting the development of a design/ routing approval workflow which will include PDF and REmark. What platforms? Re:Mark is not available for all of the platforms that Acrobat runs on. This may hinder your application much more than the email vs. ftp issue. We rejected Re:Mark as a solution at Medtronic for that reason as well as it requires an additional license on every user's pc. (And Acrobat Exchange just to view the annotations.) Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. Configuration Assurance Phone #: 612/514-8349 Fax #: 612/514-8674 Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 17:50:22-GMT,2279;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15650 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:50:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA31271; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:31:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:28:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31044; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:27:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980406102816.00805a90@charlie> X-Sender: satkins@charlie X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 10:28:16 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Atkins Subject: [PDF] pdf "bugs?" & editing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've been working on a prototype system using Acrobat 3.01 to capture documents. I'm using two different processes to create the pdf files - printing to the pdfwriter, and capture. I'm running into the following issues: The pdf doesn't print the way it views - sometimes the image will not be printed and their are gray boxes in random places on the printout. The pdf views differently in different viewer builds? of the save version - using Acrobat Reader that came with Exchange (3.01) displays the pdf fine. I downloaded the latest reader to see if the above problem was corrected. In the new? viewer (also 3.01), the chart lines are displayed as odd-ball ASCII characters. Also, is there an easy to use pdf editor? Exchange is not very user friendly. I don't relish the idea of maintaining a separate database of another format file for edits, due to space constraints. The editing would be replacing text that did not OCR correctly and perhaps some image touch-up. Thanks, Scott +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 17:50:29-GMT,3823;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15653 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:50:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA31249; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:31:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:27:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30985; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:27:08 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3528CE61.B4C0C767@beacon.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:45:08 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] emailing pdfs, how too ? Cc: "Cory Snavely" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory, thanks a lot for your additions. It is in fact so that the mail software (and do never forget all the software the message is handled with on its way from the sender to the receipient) recognizes the attachment as binary. And yes, message truncation is an issue I did not bring up, but it can cause serious problems. If that is so, only a serious talk with the ISP can help. If it is not possible to send PDFs as attachment in any way, a slight chance to bring it to the client would be to upload it to a website and then communicate only the link by e-mail. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________ >Max Wyss wrote: >> >> Many problems with sending PDFs by e-mail are connected to some software in >> the mail system which believe that it is a good thing to change some >> characters in a text message. This can of course totally mess up a PDF >> file. So, to make sure that the PDF does arrive uncorrupted, you would have >> to send it compressed. > >I routinely send binary PDFs via email without compression with complete >success >using Netscape Communicator 4.x. > >It seems to me the underlying issue is that the mail attachment needs to be >recognized as a binary file and encoded, not that compression is used per se. >It sounds like some email packages may not recognize PDF as a binary format >(indeed, if it is ASCII format), but they will recognize a .Z or a .zip or a >.sit as such and encode it. Encoding should protect pretty well against the >standard risk of email servers corrupting binary data, but of course there >is no >money-back guarantee. 8) > >So to be clear, IMHO it is not specifically compression that is helping >you, but >rather that compression stores the document in a format that the email package >recognizes as binary and therefore encodes. Given your situation, compression >may either help you or just provide an additional step that wastes your time. > >Also a common problem is message truncation, in which case the recipient will >receive only part of the attachment. If this is your problem, then email >transfer is probably not going to work for you unless you have some degree of >control over the problem mail server's configuration. > >Cory Snavely >The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 18:06:38-GMT,2363;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16185 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:06:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA32390; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:54:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:50:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32180; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:50:29 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565DE.0061CE74.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:50:07 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors? - Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Did you come up with an alternative plan? This is an issue that I'm sure lots of companies are grappling with - I know we're looking at different options. Sue Gililland NeXstar Pharmaceuticals, Inc. Phone: 909-394-4122 FAX: 909-394-2038 email: sgililland@nexstar.com Paul Schulte on 04/06/98 10:12:45 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors? - Reply > I am supporting the development of a design/ routing approval workflow which will include PDF and REmark. What platforms? Re:Mark is not available for all of the platforms that Acrobat runs on. This may hinder your application much more than the email vs. ftp issue. We rejected Re:Mark as a solution at Medtronic for that reason as well as it requires an additional license on every user's pc. (And Acrobat Exchange just to view the annotations.) Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. Configuration Assurance Phone #: 612/514-8349 Fax #: 612/514-8674 Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 18:06:54-GMT,2900;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16199 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:06:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA31250; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:31:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:27:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31006; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:27:15 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804061229.HAA09976@unlinfo.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:51:46 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] How to update pdf files on ongoing basis Cc: jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu (Jeanette Nakada) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jeanette, the main thing is to prepare your documents in a way that you won't have to do anything with them in Exchange anymore. This means that you would have to use the PDFMARK command for your original documents. (The PDFMARK command allows you to "transfer" information to the Distiller, which will handle them properly.) Information could be buttons, links, bookmarks etc. For the links and bookmarks, there are some tools available, and I am sure their representatives will send you according messages. For the rest, I suggest you do download the newest version of the PDF Reference Manual from the developer section on Adobe's website. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ____________ >4/5/98 > >Some pdf files will be updated every few months or so, perhaps more often. >What is the most efficient way to edit/update .pdf documents without having >to reinstate links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc with every update? > >In other words, do I update the MSWord document(s) each time, save as .pdf, >insert pages, and redo links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc? > >My fear is that if I edit only the .pdf file, it will become a different >animal that the original document--the MSWord file. I want all "versions" to >be identical. > >Jeanette Nakada >Production Coordinator >University of Nebraska Press +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 18:28:21-GMT,2402;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16669 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:28:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00598; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:13:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:10:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00389; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:10:17 -0500 Message-ID: <35291AF7.7942759D@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 14:12:08 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Custom Page Sizes from MS word 97->Distiller w/PDFMaker References: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271C6FDE@MARS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Schiff, Kenny wrote: > > I would like to create a screen sized page using Word 97 (8.89 x 6.67) > landscape. No matter what I do in the page setup in Word, the resultant > page size is in Acrobat is 11 x 8.5. I'm using the macro that > automatically > runs Distiller. I tried using several different PS printers all to no > avail. > Any ideas? I had the same problem exactly. I ended up inserting pdfmark code in my PostScript files to crop the pages to the right size. It sounds like you are using the Distiller Assistant, and so I think an approach like this would work for you. I would look into modifying the prologue.ps and epilogue.ps files, which should essentially allow you to write and execute custom PostScript code without having to manipulate your application PostScript output, and I would also check the pdfmark reference manual to get the code that will crop pages. Sounds complex, but once you get it working, you'll love it and it will save you time. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 18:32:15-GMT,1718;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16749 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:32:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00508; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:12:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:08:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00232; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:08:00 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271C6FDF@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] custom page size and Word 97->PDFMaker Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:04:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would like to create a screen sized page using Word 97 (8.89 x 6.67) landscape. No matter what I do in the page setup in Word, the resultant page size is in Acrobat is 11 x 8.5. I'm using the macro that automatically runs Distiller. I tried using several different PS printers all to no avail. Any ideas? Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 18:35:31-GMT,2569;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16834 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:35:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00732; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:16:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:12:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00526; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:12:41 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6190.8F1EFEC0.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Custom Page Sizes from MS word 97->Distiller w/PDFMaker Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:10:55 +0100 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is that the default page size in the printer driver? --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] Sent: 06 April 1998 18:09 To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Custom Page Sizes from MS word 97->Distiller w/PDFMaker I would like to create a screen sized page using Word 97 (8.89 x 6.67) landscape. No matter what I do in the page setup in Word, the resultant page size is in Acrobat is 11 x 8.5. I'm using the macro that automatically runs Distiller. I tried using several different PS printers all to no avail. Any ideas? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 18:37:22-GMT,5855;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16887 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00788; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:17:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:14:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00607; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:13:58 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD61D4.AA3FA260@stpfl4-44.gate.net> From: Chris Lane To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Custom Page Sizes from MS word 97->Distiller w/PDFMaker Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 03:24:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD61D4.AA599300" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD61D4.AA599300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you tried changing the Default Page Size settings in Job Options/General? Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. --------------- -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] Sent: Monday, April 06, 1998 1:09 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Custom Page Sizes from MS word 97->Distiller w/PDFMaker I would like to create a screen sized page using Word 97 (8.89 x 6.67) landscape. No matter what I do in the page setup in Word, the resultant page size is in Acrobat is 11 x 8.5. I'm using the macro that automatically runs Distiller. I tried using several different PS printers all to no avail. 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Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:45:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01584; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:31:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:27:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01304; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:27:49 -0500 From: intense@pro.net Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980406183242.00691288@pro.net> X-Sender: intense@pro.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:32:42 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdfmark reference manual Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sorry. Found it already at : http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/technotes.html Thanks anyways, Vince >Where would I get the pdfmark reference manual? At 02:12 PM 4/6/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Schiff, Kenny wrote: >> >> I would like to create a screen sized page using Word 97 (8.89 x 6.67) >> landscape. No matter what I do in the page setup in Word, the resultant >> page size is in Acrobat is 11 x 8.5. I'm using the macro that >> automatically >> runs Distiller. I tried using several different PS printers all to no >> avail. >> Any ideas? > >I had the same problem exactly. I ended up inserting pdfmark code in my >PostScript files to crop the pages to the right size. > >It sounds like you are using the Distiller Assistant, and so I think an approach >like this would work for you. I would look into modifying the prologue.ps and >epilogue.ps files, which should essentially allow you to write and execute >custom PostScript code without having to manipulate your application PostScript >output, and I would also check the pdfmark reference manual to get the code that >will crop pages. > >Sounds complex, but once you get it working, you'll love it and it will save you >time. > >Cory Snavely >The Beacon Group >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 18:47:29-GMT,2687;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17241 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:47:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01442; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:28:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:25:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01150; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:24:59 -0500 From: intense@pro.net Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980406182953.006771ec@pro.net> X-Sender: intense@pro.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:29:53 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdfmark reference manual Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Where would I get the pdfmark reference manual? At 02:12 PM 4/6/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Schiff, Kenny wrote: >> >> I would like to create a screen sized page using Word 97 (8.89 x 6.67) >> landscape. No matter what I do in the page setup in Word, the resultant >> page size is in Acrobat is 11 x 8.5. I'm using the macro that >> automatically >> runs Distiller. I tried using several different PS printers all to no >> avail. >> Any ideas? > >I had the same problem exactly. I ended up inserting pdfmark code in my >PostScript files to crop the pages to the right size. > >It sounds like you are using the Distiller Assistant, and so I think an approach >like this would work for you. I would look into modifying the prologue.ps and >epilogue.ps files, which should essentially allow you to write and execute >custom PostScript code without having to manipulate your application PostScript >output, and I would also check the pdfmark reference manual to get the code that >will crop pages. > >Sounds complex, but once you get it working, you'll love it and it will save you >time. > >Cory Snavely >The Beacon Group >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 19:12:19-GMT,1575;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17886 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:12:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02623; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:53:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:49:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02387; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:49:24 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdfmark reference manual Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:50:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bd618c$d5cf72e0$06f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980406182953.006771ec@pro.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Search your hard disk for pdfmark.pdf... > > Where would I get the pdfmark reference manual? Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Apr-1998 19:37:18-GMT,3238;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18497 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:37:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04017; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:22:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:17:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03806; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:17:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:17:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804061917.OAA02097@unlinfo.unl.edu> X-Sender: jnakada@popmail.unl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu (Jeanette Nakada) Subject: Re: [PDF] How to update pdf files on ongoing basis Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thank you!> >Jeanette, > >the main thing is to prepare your documents in a way that you won't have to >do anything with them in Exchange anymore. This means that you would have >to use the PDFMARK command for your original documents. (The PDFMARK >command allows you to "transfer" information to the Distiller, which will >handle them properly.) Information could be buttons, links, bookmarks etc. > >For the links and bookmarks, there are some tools available, and I am sure >their representatives will send you according messages. For the rest, I >suggest you do download the newest version of the PDF Reference Manual from >the developer section on Adobe's website. > >Hope, this can help. > > >Max Wyss >PRODOK Engineering AG >Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing >CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > >Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 >e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com > > > >Bridging the Knowledge Gap > > > >____________ > > >>4/5/98 >> >>Some pdf files will be updated every few months or so, perhaps more often. >>What is the most efficient way to edit/update .pdf documents without having >>to reinstate links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc with every update? >> >>In other words, do I update the MSWord document(s) each time, save as .pdf, >>insert pages, and redo links/bookmarks, special buttons, etc? >> >>My fear is that if I edit only the .pdf file, it will become a different >>animal that the original document--the MSWord file. I want all "versions" to >>be identical. >> >>Jeanette Nakada >>Production Coordinator >>University of Nebraska Press > > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 2:58:56-GMT,2222;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27550 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:58:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA19827; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:26:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:20:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19658; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:19:59 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:25:23 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: [PDF] Re: EMail Attachments Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I completed a test of PDF email attachments apbout 2 weeks ago. We had 44 testers testing every platform (Mac, IBM. UNIX), including LANs and Firewalls. RESULTS: PDF file 275K Approx. 80% of Mac and PC users opened the PDF file with no problem (binhex) 19.5% of Mac and PC users required MIME or UUENCODE encoding (the base64 issue) .5% didn't succeed (this may be ISP email attachment size limitation) ODDITIES: The LANs tester, downloaded the file to WIN95, and it wouldn't open, transfered throu LANs and opened on the MAC just fine. Firewall tester recieved the file, recieving the error "%pdf...", but launched Acrobat Reader first, show all files, and was able to open the file anyways (this is a puzzler) Resent the PDF file by Netscape 3.01 mail, enabled MIME compliant, and all (except the .5% tester) recieved the file OK. <<<<<< I will try the zip and stuffit alternative that have been mentioned in this discussion. Cheers Murray McCombs mmccombs@interlog.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 5:34:45-GMT,1790;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00464 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:34:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA24540; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:56:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:52:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA24404; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:52:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199804070454.OAA19538@magna.com.au> X-Sender: larke@magna.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:45:37 +1000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Annette Larke Subject: [PDF] Harvard Graphics to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear All, Has anyone had any experience distilling Harvard Graphics files? I have several hundreds graphics which I need to distill. However, all gradient backgrounds (from black to blue) come up as totally black once in PDF format. I have tried to create a background in Photo Shop, saved it to .BMP and imported it into Harvard - but with the same result. The background is totally black. Does anyone have any ideas? Regards, Annette Larke Larke Services Pty LTd URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 8:19:25-GMT,3225;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03286 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:19:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA28906; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:48:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:37:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28574; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:37:41 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:24:23 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: EMail Attachments Cc: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Murray, there could be an explanation for the oddities concerning Mac. If the files had been produced on a Mac, it could be that they got transmitted with their Macbinary header (128 bytes or so, which determine the File Type and Creator, etc.). Some Windows programs are smart enough to suppress the size of this header and try loading again. This could also explain the oddity with opening the file from the file menu, supposed that this functionality is available only there, but not with the drag-and-drop or double-click mechanism. There are utilities around which do strip that header. This could solve some of the problems. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ___________ >I completed a test of PDF email attachments apbout 2 weeks ago. We had 44 >testers testing every platform (Mac, IBM. UNIX), including LANs and >Firewalls. > >RESULTS: PDF file 275K >Approx. 80% of Mac and PC users opened the PDF file with no problem (binhex) > >19.5% of Mac and PC users required MIME or UUENCODE encoding (the base64 >issue) > >.5% didn't succeed (this may be ISP email attachment size limitation) > >ODDITIES: > >The LANs tester, downloaded the file to WIN95, and it wouldn't open, >transfered throu LANs and opened on the MAC just fine. > >Firewall tester recieved the file, recieving the error "%pdf...", but >launched Acrobat Reader first, show all files, and was able to open the >file anyways >(this is a puzzler) > >Resent the PDF file by Netscape 3.01 mail, enabled MIME compliant, and all >(except the .5% tester) recieved the file OK. > ><<<<<< >I will try the zip and stuffit alternative that have been mentioned in this >discussion. > >Cheers >Murray McCombs >mmccombs@interlog.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 10:14:45-GMT,2508;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05125 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA31440; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:20:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:14:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA31260; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:14:21 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412565DF.00380C13.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:15:45 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] custom page size and Word 97->PDFMaker Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Kenny, We solved the problem by creating our own Paperformat (Like DIN A4..) with our sizes. I did it by editing the PPDfile but on adobes adobeps with distill.ppd you can create your own settings in the printersdialog in startmenue. Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com on 06.04.98 19:04:45 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] custom page size and Word 97->PDFMaker I would like to create a screen sized page using Word 97 (8.89 x 6.67) landscape. No matter what I do in the page setup in Word, the resultant page size is in Acrobat is 11 x 8.5. I'm using the macro that automatically runs Distiller. I tried using several different PS printers all to no avail. Any ideas? Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 10:19:40-GMT,1911;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05191 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:19:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA31976; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:44:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:39:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA31851; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:39:55 -0500 Message-ID: <33A7437D9048D11189FA00A0C986BB6834D4F2@EXCALIBER.VPDM.COM> From: David Farbey To: "'PDF List/Digest Messages'" Subject: [PDF] Searching PDF on the Web question Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:43:51 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have created a search index for a collection of PDF files with Acrobat Catalog, and I can view individual PDF files through a Web browser. Now I want to be able to search my collection of PDF files over an Intranet or the Internet. Is this possible? Do I need an external (3rd party) tool? Any suggestions will be welcome, Thank you, David Farbey davidf@bainpdm.com Technical Communications Manager Baan Engineering (formerly BAIN - B A Intelligence Networks) Creators of BaanPDM - Manufacturing Enterprise PDM http://www.bainpdm.com 6, Yad Harutzim Street, Industrial Zone, Kfar Saba 44641 Israel +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 11:54:26-GMT,2563;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06443 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:54:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA01830; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:31:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:26:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA01687; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:26:39 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412565DF.00443FE0.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:28:01 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] Searching PDF on the Web question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi David, Yes, it is possible and you will need a 3rd party web search engine. e.g Verity, MS Index Server, that can index PDF-files. Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) davidf@bainpdm.com on 07.04.98 11:43:51 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] Searching PDF on the Web question I have created a search index for a collection of PDF files with Acrobat Catalog, and I can view individual PDF files through a Web browser. Now I want to be able to search my collection of PDF files over an Intranet or the Internet. Is this possible? Do I need an external (3rd party) tool? Any suggestions will be welcome, Thank you, David Farbey davidf@bainpdm.com Technical Communications Manager Baan Engineering (formerly BAIN - B A Intelligence Networks) Creators of BaanPDM - Manufacturing Enterprise PDM http://www.bainpdm.com 6, Yad Harutzim Street, Industrial Zone, Kfar Saba 44641 Israel +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 12:42:54-GMT,2043;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07125 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:42:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA03065; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:13:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:10:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02937; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:10:00 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD61FD.DCA59060.rlandis@pit-magnus.com> From: Ray Landis To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing color separated spot colors Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:19:14 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can anyone clear up for me what is and is not possible when printing 2 or more colors. We have been testing printing separations through a demo version of Crackerjack, and have had little success to date. In the case of a 2 color file (Black and PMS 200) saved as a composite Postscript file, distilled to PDF, printed through Crackerjack and run to an Agfa Selectset 7000 via a Star 600 level 2 Rip, the black layer images OK, but the file then errors. The error message states that the file tried to change the Rips settings and was flushed. 4 color process files thus far seem to separate OK through the same process. There appears to be little specific information regarding printing separations from PDF. Thanks, Ray Landis Progressive Information Technologies Rlandis@pit-magnus.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 12:53:02-GMT,2651;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07264 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:53:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA03858; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:33:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:29:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03685; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:29:06 -0500 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565DF.0044E15C.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:32:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=vBGSiRAGCPVTBVQtQAwBdmZ0f4es6PLvsi51yRrXBuUCWtrIHbKISRiI" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --0__=vBGSiRAGCPVTBVQtQAwBdmZ0f4es6PLvsi51yRrXBuUCWtrIHbKISRiI Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii (Embedded image moved to file: PIC20050.PCX) From: Laurie Coyne@AMSINC on 04/07/98 08:32 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: Subject: 1. Is it possible to batch Pdf Word files within a folder? I manage a training program and at times 200+ files are affected. This would lesson the amount of manual PDFing required. *I have read some of the other messages relating to Local Render, I have not yet used this product but I do have some questions concerning its functionality. Bear with me. 2. If I use Local Render to convert Word files will it create the thumbnails? 3. Can I set page properties like (Fit Width) using Local Render? 4. Is there a document that can answer some of these and more technical questions concerning PDFing? Thanks in advance for your assistance. --0__=vBGSiRAGCPVTBVQtQAwBdmZ0f4es6PLvsi51yRrXBuUCWtrIHbKISRiI Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="PIC20050.PCX" Content-transfer-encoding: x-uuencode begin 644 PIC20050.PCX M"@4!"`````"$`&H````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````!A0`!```````````````````````````` F```````````````````````````````````````````````````( ` end --0__=vBGSiRAGCPVTBVQtQAwBdmZ0f4es6PLvsi51yRrXBuUCWtrIHbKISRiI-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 13:29:41-GMT,2575;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07896 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:29:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA05129; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:08:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:04:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04928; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:04:32 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271C6FFE@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'snavely@beacon.com'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Custom page sizes and MS Word 97 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:01:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I would like to create a screen sized page using Word 97 (>.89 x 6.67) > landscape. No matter what I do in the page setup in Word, >he resultant > page size is in Acrobat is 11 x 8.5. I'm using the macro that > automatically > runs Distiller. I tried using several different PS printers all to >no avail. Any ideas? I had the same problem exactly. I ended up inserting pdfmark code in myPostScript files to crop the pages to the right size. >>I experimented editing the .ps file and was able to get the >>page size correctly but not the margins.. this without >>prologue and epilogue. It sounds like you are using the Distiller Assistant, and so I think an approach like this would work for you. I would look into modifying the prologue.ps and epilogue.ps files, which should essentially allow you to write and execute custom PostScript code without having to manipulate your application PostScript output, and I would also check the pdfmark reference manual to get the code that will crop pages. I will do this if I have to, but it's not clean. I'm wondering whether there's some way to code the example.ps (in Distiller startup) to pay attention to the page size specified in the .ps of the document. Anyway, thanks for your input. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 13:50:59-GMT,2238;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08244 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:50:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06059; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:32:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:28:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05837; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:28:36 -0500 Message-ID: <352A2A74.AF309604@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:30:28 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Discussion List Subject: [PDF] Re: Custom page sizes and MS Word 97 References: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271C6FFE@MARS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Schiff, Kenny wrote: > > > I had the same problem exactly. I ended up inserting pdfmark code in > > my PostScript files to crop the pages to the right size. > > I experimented editing the .ps file and was able to get the page > size correctly but not the margins.. this without prologue and > epilogue. If I understand you correctly, that should be a matter of specifying margins in your word processor or whatever. Then use PostScript code somewhere to either crop the pages, or set page size. > I will do this if I have to, but it's not clean. I'm wondering whether > there's some way to code the example.ps (in Distiller startup) to pay > attention to the page size specified in the .ps of the document. Cleanliness is relative, but I agree example.ps would be a better place to put in whatever you put in. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 13:52:57-GMT,2966;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08272 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06002; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:31:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:27:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05773; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:27:35 -0500 Message-ID: <352A1D08.8ED8F620@bense.de> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:33:13 +0200 From: "Ulrich Bense" Organization: Ulrich Bense GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing color separated spot colors X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01BD61FD.DCA59060.rlandis@pit-magnus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello Ray, i know that there are possible problems with In-Rip decompressing of EPS-jpeg file in older versions of Rip software PSE 11 (on Star rips). mfg U.Bense Ray Landis wrote: > Can anyone clear up for me what is and is not possible when printing 2 > or > more colors. We have been testing printing separations through a demo > > version of Crackerjack, and have had little success to date. In the > case > of a 2 color file (Black and PMS 200) saved as a composite Postscript > file, > distilled to PDF, printed through Crackerjack and run to an Agfa > Selectset > 7000 via a Star 600 level 2 Rip, the black layer images OK, but the > file > then errors. The error message states that the file tried to change > the > Rips settings and was flushed. 4 color process files thus far seem to > > separate OK through the same process. > > There appears to be little specific information regarding printing > separations from PDF. > > Thanks, > > Ray Landis > Progressive Information Technologies > Rlandis@pit-magnus.com > > +--------------------- > --------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Ulrich Bense * Ulrich Bense GmbH * digitale Kommunikation Borkener Strasse 134a * 46853 Coesfeld * www.bense.de Tel: +49 2541 918-0 * Fax: +49 2541 918-120 * ub@bense.de +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 14:20:35-GMT,1503;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08851 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:20:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06820; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:47:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:43:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06598; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:43:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199804071341.KAA18903@mail.impgroup.com> From: "Mark Alberstat" To: "pdfgroup pdfgroup" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Certification Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:50:28 -0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello All, I was wondering if many, or any, of you have written the Adobe Acrobat Certification test and if you feel it is worth the trouble. Thanks. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 15:03:32-GMT,2141;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09786 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:03:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA08828; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:36:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:32:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08702; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:32:13 -0500 From: rnstrong@magma.ca Message-Id: <199804071434.KAA16041@mag1.magmacom.com> X-Sender: rnstrong@mail.magma.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 10:34:48 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] TAN; PDF; Stitching Truncated E-Mail attachments Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory Snavely wrote: ------------------------------------------------------ Also a common problem is message truncation, in which case the recipient will receive only part of the attachment. If this is your problem, then email transfer is probably not going to work for you unless you have some degree of control over the problem mail server's configuration. -------------------------------------------------------- Dataviz has an E-mail Extractor which restores un-decoded attachments. Stitching together truncated attachments can be done manually, if you copy each section of the attched file carefully and assemble them in any ASCII notepad or WP. Of course the recipient has to know what they are doing. I think I ran the E-mail Extractor on the stitched-together file after that. Anyway it worked. A nine-meg graphic file came through. Rick Strong +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 16:55:45-GMT,2771;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12177 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:55:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA14057; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:27:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:24:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13889; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:24:13 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:20:50 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Beth Fischi Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms Usage Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rebecca -- You can fill out forms using Reader or Acrobat, but currently in order to save the data in PDF format, you need the full Acrobat package (the one that comes with Acrobat Exchange). You can set up Reader so that it exports the data into a database, but you will have to write a CGI script and, presumably, have a database ready to accept this information. If you're going the PDF route, the easiest way to handle this is to buy this person a copy of Acrobat. Also, you may want to check with Adobe sales to see if they have an "Acrobat Lite," (not its real name) a less expensive version of Acrobat Exchange that can't create forms or do any of the more advanced things, but that *can* save forms data. If they do, please let me know! : ) Beth >We have a FrameMaker template for a short document called a Mod Kit, >which is mostly a lined table with part number entries. The person who >will be maintaining input for these documents does not have FrameMaker. > >Would it make sense to turn the FrameMaker document into a PDF Form, and >have her fill out the forms and retain them as the documents of record? > >Can forms be filled out by using Reader? Or do you need full Acrobat? > >Thanks!! > >Rebecca Callaway =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Beth Fischi Technical Writer Texas Animal Health Commission Voice: 1-800-550-8242 x733 Fax: (512) 719-0729 E-mail: bethf@tahc.state.tx.us http://www.tahc.state.tx.us =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 18:12:40-GMT,4150;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14014 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:12:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17729; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:47:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:44:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17580; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:44:13 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 12:45:50 -0500 From: Paul Schulte To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Online Markup (was Re: EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors?) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sue, The mix of documents that our on-line markup tool or tools must handle is complex -- about 60% text-based documents, for which pdf is an excellent viewing/imaging tool, and 40% CAD (or pre-CAD meaning hand-drafted), for which pdf is not always the best viewing/imaging tool. Our CAD users strongly rejected Re:Mark, as well as being forced to use pdf for everything. The other reason we rejected on-line markup was due to the poor tools (both non-Acrobat) used several years ago. It requires quite an organizational change as well as a change in thinking to successfully implement on-line markup vs. paper markup. We also must accommodate worldwide users, so the markup method must be accessible to all. When we resume this project, I hope we use Engineering Animation's tool called PreVIEW. (Rosetta Technologies developed this tool and has merged with EAI.) It is the only cross-platform tool I have run across that extends the markup capability of Acrobat. It also contains many features of incredible use to our CAD users. And best of all, the GUI looks just like good ole' Acrobat! Due to our unique need, I haven't really searched as extensively for text-based markup tools only. And as we start using EAI's modules for our Intranet, my hope likely will come true. Let me know if I can provide further info. Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. Configuration Assurance Phone #: 612/514-8349 Fax #: 612/514-8674 Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com >>> 04/06 12:50 pm >>> Did you come up with an alternative plan? This is an issue that I'm sure lots of companies are grappling with - I know we're looking at different options. Sue Gililland NeXstar Pharmaceuticals, Inc. Phone: 909-394-4122 FAX: 909-394-2038 email: sgililland@nexstar.com Paul Schulte on 04/06/98 10:12:45 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] EMail Attachments and PDF Token Errors? - Reply > I am supporting the development of a design/ routing approval workflow which will include PDF and REmark. What platforms? Re:Mark is not available for all of the platforms that Acrobat runs on. This may hinder your application much more than the email vs. ftp issue. We rejected Re:Mark as a solution at Medtronic for that reason as well as it requires an additional license on every user's pc. (And Acrobat Exchange just to view the annotations.) Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. Configuration Assurance Phone #: 612/514-8349 Fax #: 612/514-8674 Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 19:27:14-GMT,2068;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15505 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:27:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21580; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:07:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:05:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21470; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:05:36 -0500 Message-ID: <352A7998.1A2C@dallas.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:08:33 -0500 From: Tony Guerry Organization: KT Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Colored Text becomes black in PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I have done a couple of PDF's before without any problems and now that I want to do some more, the colored text in my Quark Mac document is just coming out black/grey but my images are there in color??? I have used Distiller 3.01 and 3.02. What do you think has happened? Thanks, Tony -- +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=++ Tony Guerry KT PUBLISHING Web Page Design & Desktop Publishing Garland, Texas USA ktpub@dallas.net http://www.dallas.net/~ktpub (Under a Major Major Overhaul) ++=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+++ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 19:51:15-GMT,1337;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16044 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:51:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22996; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:37:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:36:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22914; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:36:03 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565DF.006B956C.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:37:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Colored Text becomes black in PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tony: Be sure to have a color capable printer driver selected. Rick +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 20:24:22-GMT,1833;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16779 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:24:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24258; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:05:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:03:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24121; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:03:33 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:03:58 -0500 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: Tony Guerry Subject: [PDF] Colored Quark Text becomes black text in PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have done a couple of PDF's before without any problems and now that I want to do some more, the colored text in my Quark Mac document is just coming out black/grey but my images are in color??? What do you think has happened? Please email me at: ktpub@dallas.net Thanks, Tony -- +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=++ Tony Guerry KT PUBLISHING Web Page Design & Desktop Publishing Garland, Texas USA ktpub@dallas.net http://www.dallas.net/~ktpub (Under a Major Major Overhaul) ++=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+++ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 20:28:34-GMT,2410;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16838 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:28:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24627; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:13:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:12:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24533; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:12:22 -0500 Message-ID: <352A893D.4556@dallas.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 15:15:37 -0500 From: Tony Guerry Organization: KT Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Colored Text becomes black in PDF References: <852565DF.006B956C.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rick Bishop wrote: > > Tony: Be sure to have a color capable printer driver selected. > Rick > But I did not have to do that last month. I normally use PS Printer 8.3.1 on the Mac and use an Apple LaserWriter Select 360 postscript printer driver. I originally thought I had found the problem when after PDFing it the first time and got black text, I found in the Quark file (one that I have received from someone else) that the check box of "print colors as greys" was checked. So I unchecked it and resaved the file but to no avail. Any other ideas ladies and gents. Tony +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=++ Tony Guerry KT PUBLISHING Web Page Design & Desktop Publishing Garland, Texas USA ktpub@dallas.net http://www.dallas.net/~ktpub (Under a Major Major Overhaul) ++=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+++ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 20:41:19-GMT,2808;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17115 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:41:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25420; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:26:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:25:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25355; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:25:43 -0500 From: intense@pro.net Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980407203035.006f2554@pro.net> X-Sender: intense@pro.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:30:35 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Colored Text becomes black in PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I agree with the Rick. Try with a postscript color printer selected and your problem should go away. Vince At 03:15 PM 4/7/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Rick Bishop wrote: >> >> Tony: Be sure to have a color capable printer driver selected. >> Rick >> > >But I did not have to do that last month. >I normally use PS Printer 8.3.1 on the Mac and use an Apple LaserWriter >Select 360 postscript printer driver. > >I originally thought I had found the problem when after PDFing it the >first time and got black text, I found in the Quark file (one that I >have received from someone else) that the check box of "print colors as >greys" was checked. So I unchecked it and resaved the file but to no >avail. > >Any other ideas ladies and gents. > >Tony >+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=++ > > Tony Guerry > KT PUBLISHING > Web Page Design & Desktop Publishing > Garland, Texas USA > ktpub@dallas.net > http://www.dallas.net/~ktpub (Under a Major Major Overhaul) > >++=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+++ >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Apr-1998 21:03:30-GMT,1951;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17732 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:03:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26362; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:44:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:42:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26226; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:42:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Colored Text becomes black in PDF Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:34:18 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd6265$4f918e00$03f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <352A893D.4556@dallas.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Rick Bishop wrote: > > > > Tony: Be sure to have a color capable printer driver selected. > > Rick > > > > But I did not have to do that last month. > I normally use PS Printer 8.3.1 on the Mac and use an Apple > LaserWriter > Select 360 postscript printer driver. Then you were just lucky. Always use a colour PostScript driver. That may not be the cause, mind you. It's just good practice. I assume your graphics were EPS or they would surely have been black and white. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 2:29:56-GMT,2538;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24949 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:29:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA05090; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:03:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:59:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA04930; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:59:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: "WongJohn (FXMHQ MYS)" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: RE: [PDF] What's the maximum size the Distiller 3.0 can convert to PDF? Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:55:58 PDT X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to Aandi and Andrea for your responses. >Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Monday, April 06, 1998 7:08 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] What's the maximum size the Distiller 3.0 can convert to PDF? There is no maximum, and the speed should not degrade with an increased number of pages. The memory requirements of PostScript, unfortunately, have almost no relationship to the size of the file. I can write a 2 line PostScript file that will exhaust the available memory in every case. > > > Hi! Can someone out there tell me the maximum size of the input > postscript which the Distiller 3.0 on Win 95 or NT 4.0 can handle? If > no maximum, then is there a recommended optimal size of postscript > source before the distilling time degrades. > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 3:52:55-GMT,1736;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26263 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:52:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA07902; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:22:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:19:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA07808; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:19:37 -0500 From: wenj@ms13.hinet.net Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:20:24 +0800 (CST) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] indexing for the PDF files on the NT Server with the Index Server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Every one: I just barely started working with the PDF stuff. We are interested in the part of PDF that would allow the user to do the full-text search, especially on the NT Platform by using the Index Server. However, as far as I understand, I am especially interested in finding out how the contents of the PDF files to be indexed by the Index Server. If there is any body who can provide appropriate information will be highly appreciated. Joseph Wen +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 8:36:07-GMT,3640;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01215 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:36:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA15907; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:01:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:55:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA15713; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:55:16 -0500 X-Sender: ipblythe@aix.pacwan.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ian Blythe Subject: [PDF] PDF vs HTML... Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:06:35 +0100 Message-ID: <1320096101-39526853@aix.pacwan.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA15710 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello All, I'm a great fan and subscriber of The Electronic Journal for Design, Typography & Graphics tm (otherwise known as DT&G tm). This site (http://www.graphic-design.com) is full of very interesting design information for Photoshop, WebDesign, Photography and Typography. Which brings me to the PDF point. Each month has had the month's newletters available in PDF form. Now, alas, many of these newsletters are only available in HTML form. Apparently the PDFs were taking too much time to make. Also I was told by the site owner that the number of validated hits for the web-site is rising dramatically, but the downloads of the PDFs are flat with no increase... Is anyone else seeing a movement away from PDF to HTML for data distribution? Personally I much prefer downloading a PDF (text and graphics in one shot), to stepping through all the HTML pages and waiting for all the images to download. Telecom charges here in France can be 5-7 times higher than in the USA... (Indeed, whenever I find a webpage that I like, I print the page to a PS file and distill it. It would be nice if the background images could also be printed :) I have no connection with DT&G, other than being a happy subscriber (until the PDFs stopped :( Finally, as seen in pdf-digest: (1) - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD61D4.AA599300 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef ^^ Could VCARD people please turn them OFF before sending to the list! (2) ^^ Could BrowserMail people disable the sending of the HTML version of the message! And what's with the 'ms' stuff, are all these junk parts of messages a method for a certain company to dominate the 'net? best regards Ian Blythe Consultant, Technical Writer, PDF afiçionado -- ipblytheOatOaixOdotOpacwanOdotOnet Warning: Anti-spam mail techniques in operation Replace words between 'O's by the appropriate character and then delete the O's. IGNORE reply e-mail address in header +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 14:27:11-GMT,2187;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06275 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:27:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA28695; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:58:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:56:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28395; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:56:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:58:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: kingkern@mail.eclipse.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804081307.IAA25306@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jim kramer Subject: Re: [PDF] Colored Text becomes black in PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >From: Tony Guerry >Subject: Re: [PDF] Colored Text becomes black in PDF > >Rick Bishop wrote: >> >> Tony: Be sure to have a color capable printer driver selected. >> Rick >> > >But I did not have to do that last month. >I normally use PS Printer 8.3.1 on the Mac and use an Apple LaserWriter >Select 360 postscript printer driver. > >I originally thought I had found the problem when after PDFing it the >first time and got black text, I found in the Quark file (one that I >have received from someone else) that the check box of "print colors as >greys" was checked. So I unchecked it and resaved the file but to no >avail. > use the acrobat distiller driver. i never have a problem. Jim Kramer _________________________________________________________ *Every* day is a beautiful day. --Elwood P. Dowd +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 14:28:20-GMT,2844;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06308 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA25534; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:11:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:07:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25285; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:07:54 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1320096101-39526853@aix.pacwan.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:09:56 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF vs HTML... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm also a regular DT&G reader; earlier this week I downloaded the April issue (v6.n4) in PDF, along with several other PDFs from the site. They don't appear to have abandoned PDF; in fact, while they note that more content is gradually being made available in HTML, I seem to recall that they also state somewhere on their site that some content will still be in the PDF version only. Frankly, it strikes me as prudent practice to offer *both* formats to reach the widest possible audience. PDF-HTML is *not* an either/or decision. rgds ~ Kurt === >I'm a great fan and subscriber of The Electronic Journal for Design, >Typography & Graphics tm (otherwise known as DT&G tm). > >This site (http://www.graphic-design.com) is full of very interesting >design information for Photoshop, WebDesign, Photography and Typography. > >Which brings me to the PDF point. Each month has had the month's >newletters available in PDF form. Now, alas, many of these newsletters >are only available in HTML form. < ... SNIP...> ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - => PDF lists: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html => Emerge EXTRA: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 15:07:50-GMT,1600;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07264 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:07:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA32107; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:32:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:29:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31874; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:29:50 -0500 From: jprescott@ioma.com Date: Wed, 08 Apr 98 10:18:19 Message-Id: <9803088920.AA892055899@ioma.ioma.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To all, I found a Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe Web site. When I tried to install it, I got the following message: "Acrobat Distiller 3.02 will not be installed because Setup cannot detect the presence of Acrobat 3.0." Does anybody know why this is? I have Acrobat 3.01 installed. Also, what is this upgrade and is it worth installing even if I can? Thanks for any help you can give, Janice Prescott +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 15:27:27-GMT,1689;000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07877; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:27:26 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14853; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:27:26 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:27:26 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? Message-ID: jprescott@ioma.com writes: >> I found a Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe Web site. Here is the URL: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrdistreadme_eng.html The upgrade is available for PC, Mac, and UNIX platforms, and that URL describes briefly the problems that the upgrade fixes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Apr-1998 15:35:32-GMT,1683;000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08081; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:35:32 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14866; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:35:32 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:35:32 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? Message-ID: More on the Acrobat Distiller 3.02 upgrade: here is the URL for the download steps: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrdistiller.html Funny how the URL http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrdistreadme_eng.html that I posted in my last message neglects to point to it! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Apr-1998 16:27:43-GMT,2394;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09379 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:27:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02604; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:23:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:21:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02426; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:21:04 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD62C7.61348DD0.davisson@pfp.net> From: "David M. Davisson" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Characters Won't Render When Distilled Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:21:45 -0700 Organization: Pacific Financial Printing X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To all, I have a font called LawItalic that does not seem to want to distill correctly. Typically we distill from postscript files generated in Unix with fonts embedded. We also embed all fonts in our PDFs with no subsetting. This particular font will print all characters when sent to a postscript printer, but when it is distilled several characters drop out, most notably the fi ligature, single and double quotes. I have examined the font in great detail and cannot find any kind of abnormality in the font or its character encoding. Like wise we have converted this font to Macinstosh and Windows formats and used other applications to see if our original application in Unix is the problem. Uniformly, this font behaves consistently across all platforms and applications we have tried. It prints on a postscript printer without trouble but fails to render the above named characters when distilled. Can anybody give me some clues as what might be the issue here? David M. Davisson Vice President Technology & Information Systems Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 16:27:49-GMT,2324;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09383 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:27:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02836; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:27:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:25:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02721; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:25:26 -0500 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:27:26 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 jprescott@ioma.com writes: >> I found a Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe Web site. Here is the URL: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrdistreadme_eng.html The upgrade is available for PC, Mac, and UNIX platforms, and that URL describes briefly the problems that the upgrade fixes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 16:30:19-GMT,2148;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09471 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:30:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05104; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:04:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:01:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04985; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:01:16 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD62E5.E4713860@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Problem with Accented Characters Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:00:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA04979 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Summary of Problem: The Postscript file derived from Miles Typesetting System that uses "Accent Autosort" program for accented characters displays and prints fine from within Miles. However, the PDF file derived from the same Postscript file displays and prints the accented characters erroneously (i.e. accents placed "too high" off of the character). There are no font errors reported during the distillation process, and the problem occurs only with the accented characters. I realize that the problem may be with the "Accent Autosort" program, but according to our typesetting department, this is the way we've been creating accented characters. Is there an easy way to fix this problem? Could I possibly change the Postscript file to fix this? Thanks. Dae-Hee Lee +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 16:30:32-GMT,1992;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09481 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05842; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:14:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:12:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05684; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:12:10 -0500 Message-Id: <9804081547.AD14482@atla3> Subject: RE: [PDF] What's the maximum size the Distiller 3.0 can convert Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 11:47:38 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> Hi! Can someone out there tell me the maximum size of the input >> postscript which the Distiller 3.0 on Win 95 or NT 4.0 can handle? I we define handle as will it successfully Distill to a PDF reliably - Distiller has a resolution limit from a standpoint that if you design a page that has 32,000 pixels either - If >> no maximum, then is there a recommended optimal size of postscript >> source before the distilling time degrades. Please reply to mikejahn@jahn.com Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa-Gevaert N.V. 200 Ballardvale St. MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P: 978.658.0200 ext 5504 I: www.jahn.org Cell Phone: 617.605.5716 F: 508.658.8982 (but don't send me a FAX -send a PDF file!) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 16:32:22-GMT,2162;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09509 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:32:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA03137; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:31:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:28:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02917; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:28:51 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD62E1.5C76DFE0@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Need Help re: Problem with Accented Characters Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:27:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA02912 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Summary of Problem: The Postscript file derived from Miles Typesetting System that uses "Accent Autosort" program for accented characters displays and prints fine from within Miles. However, the PDF file derived from the same Postscript file displays and prints the accented characters erroneously (i.e. accents placed "too high" off of the character). There are no font errors reported during the distillation process, and the problem occurs only with the accented characters. I realize that the problem may be with the "Accent Autosort" program, but according to our typesetting department, this is the way we've been creating accented characters. Is there an easy way to fix this problem? Could I possibly change the Postscript file to fix this? Thanks. Dae-Hee Lee +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 16:36:37-GMT,2318;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09626 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:36:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA03457; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:36:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:33:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03280; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:33:32 -0500 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:35:32 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 More on the Acrobat Distiller 3.02 upgrade: here is the URL for the download steps: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrdistiller.html Funny how the URL http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrdistreadme_eng.html that I posted in my last message neglects to point to it! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 17:14:53-GMT,1668;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10625 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:14:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06803; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:29:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:26:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06626; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:26:32 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD62D0.A9849540@wbristow.standard.com> From: Walter Bristow To: "'PDF List'" , "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:28:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA06623 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 When you save a pdf file with security features so the file can't be changed, just how secure is the file? How difficult is it to crack the security and make a change? How about if the interactive forms features are included? Walt Bristow wbristow@standard.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 17:22:47-GMT,3625;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10915 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:22:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07778; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:43:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:38:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07348; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:38:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 12:39:47 EDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Dmitri Hoffmeyer" Subject: re: Re: [PDF] PDF vs HTML... X-Incognito-SN: 313 X-Incognito-Version: 4.10.120 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone out there know anything about whether Adobe will some day make a deal with one of the major browser companies (Microsoft or Netscape) to allow the Acrobat Reader to be bundled with the browser? In my mind web content will have to be provided in HTML in addition to PDF format until this happens, as many users are deterred from viewing PDF files because of the extra download time required to get Acrobat Reader. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - - - - - - - - - - - - - - On Wednesday, April 8, 1998 at 9:09:56 am EDT, "Kurt Foss" wrote: > >I'm also a regular DT&G reader; earlier this week I downloaded the April >issue (v6.n4) in PDF, along with several other PDFs from the site. They >don't appear to have abandoned PDF; in fact, while they note that more >content is gradually being made available in HTML, I seem to recall that >they also state somewhere on their site that some content will still be in >the PDF version only. > >Frankly, it strikes me as prudent practice to offer *both* formats to reach >the widest possible audience. PDF-HTML is *not* an either/or decision. > >rgds ~ Kurt >=== > >>I'm a great fan and subscriber of The Electronic Journal for Design, >>Typography & Graphics tm (otherwise known as DT&G tm). >> >>This site (http://www.graphic-design.com) is full of very interesting >>design information for Photoshop, WebDesign, Photography and Typography. >> >>Which brings me to the PDF point. Each month has had the month's >>newletters available in PDF form. Now, alas, many of these newsletters >>are only available in HTML form. >< ... SNIP...> > > >---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- > "Solutions for PDF Professionals" > >Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager >EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 >579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 >Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com >Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - End of Original Message - - - - - - - - - - - - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dmitri Hoffmeyer Tufts University Undergraduate Admissions Bendetson Hall Medford, MA 02155 Phone: (617)627-2223 Fax: (617)627-3170 Email: dhoffmeyer@infonet.tufts.edu +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 18:36:22-GMT,2137;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12910 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:36:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10760; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:34:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:29:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10400; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:29:55 -0500 From: MEAnderson Message-ID: <2029cda2.352bb47c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:31:38 EDT To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Cc: gknutson@downeysavings.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Printing Mixed-Sized PDF documents Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have a single PDF file with both legal and letter sized pages. Is there any way to automatically print these pages in their intended page size without using the shrink to fit option? Since these are legal (as in regulatory) documents, we don’t really want a legal (as in size) form shrunk to print on letter paper. It seems the paper size choice lies with the print driver, and you end up with the letter sized pages printed on legal paper, or legal sized pages truncated on letter paper, depending on your paper choice. We happen to be using an old version of the Reader, but I tested it on 3.0 and it does the same thing. I tested this with HP laserjet drivers ranging from IID to 5Si. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. ======================================================= Michelle Anderson Downey Savings and Loan Assn +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 18:39:20-GMT,2685;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12970 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:39:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12533; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:04:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:00:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12290; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:00:24 -0500 Message-ID: <352BBBD3.2826@dallas.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 13:03:20 -0500 From: Tony Guerry Organization: KT Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Colored Text becomes black in PDF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 jim kramer wrote: > > >From: Tony Guerry > >Subject: Re: [PDF] Colored Text becomes black in PDF > > use the acrobat distiller driver. i never have a problem. Thanks Jim for responding, I tried to use just the Acrobat Distiller driver in the Quark Printer Dialog box. The Paper size was greyed out for one. I need 11x17 size. It did work (As far as the color came back), but it made the 11x17 newsletter an 8.5 x 17 size instead of an 11 x 17 size that it is. I tried saving it to file, having the settings in Distiller set for 11 x 17, but still 8.5 x 17. I tried printing to PDF from the Quark Printer Dialog box but same thing. What else am I missing to do here...it can't be that difficult. I am using the Adobe PSPrinter 8.3.1 driver and setting the printer type in the Quark box to Acrobat Distiller. Thanks for your help. -- +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=++ Tony Guerry KT PUBLISHING Web Page Design & Desktop Publishing Garland, Texas USA ktpub@dallas.net http://www.dallas.net/~ktpub (Under a Major Major Overhaul) ++=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+++ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 18:42:48-GMT,2270;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13046 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13086; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:13:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:10:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12954; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:10:13 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199804081812.AA01283@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 98 14:07:33 -0500 To: , , Subject: Re: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 not very secure. all security can be eliminated from a pdf secured by standard methods by merely writing the file to postscript and distilling. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? Author: at ccnode Date: 4/8/98 2:06 PM When you save a pdf file with security features so the file can't be changed, just how secure is the file? How difficult is it to crack the security and make a change? How about if the interactive forms features are included? Walt Bristow wbristow@standard.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 19:26:19-GMT,1790;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14087 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:26:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA14486; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:36:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:32:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14191; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:32:09 -0500 Message-ID: <352BC319.EA57B0F3@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 14:34:01 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? References: <199804081812.AA01283@interlock.mgh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com wrote: > > not very secure. all security can be eliminated from a pdf secured by > standard methods by merely writing the file to postscript and > distilling. Given, but this is only possible when printing is enabled in the security settings. I think the original question was referring more to good old decryption hacking. It's a very good question, IMHO. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 19:33:26-GMT,2090;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14265 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:33:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA15993; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:04:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:00:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15801; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:00:53 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:26:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bd6320$c7a19280$03f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9803088920.AA892055899@ioma.ioma.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > I found a Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe Web site. > When I tried > to install it, I got the following message: > > "Acrobat Distiller 3.02 will not be installed because > Setup cannot > detect the presence of Acrobat 3.0." The most common cause of this error are 1. Assuming that this will upgrade Acrobat Reader; the commercial Distiller product must already have been licensed; 2. Not installing Distiller in the normal way but, for instance, copying it from a different system. 3. Moving Distiller after installing it. For 2 and 3, uninstall and reinstall Distiller. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 20:12:58-GMT,2521;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15105 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:12:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA17870; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:37:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:34:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17608; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:34:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:37:00 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Richard Marisa To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? In-Reply-To: <352BC319.EA57B0F3@beacon.com> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: rjm2@cupid.cit.cornell.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Actually, as long as the document is viewable (i.e., even if printing is "disabled") it is possible to eliminate all of the security (i.e., print, resave as postscript, unlocked pdf, etc.). If the file is encrypted, then the security is as good as the encryption scheme. Rich Marisa Electronic Printing and Publishing Initiatives Cornell University rjm2@cornell.edu On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Cory Snavely wrote: > > csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com wrote: > > > > not very secure. all security can be eliminated from a pdf secured by > > standard methods by merely writing the file to postscript and > > distilling. > > Given, but this is only possible when printing is enabled in the security > settings. > > I think the original question was referring more to good old decryption > hacking. It's a very good question, IMHO. > > Cory Snavely > The Beacon Group > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 20:13:20-GMT,2335;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15114 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:13:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA17049; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:24:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:19:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16766; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:19:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199804081919.OAA16762@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 15:17:50 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 [Walter Bristow wrote on 4/8/98 12:28 PM] >When you save a pdf file with security features so the file can't be >changed, just how secure is the file? How difficult is it to crack the >security and make a change? How about if the interactive forms features >are included? > >Walt Bristow >wbristow@standard.com > Walt, A brute force attack on 40 bit RC4 using any reasonably fast desktop computer will take a few days to test all key combinations. A couple of engineers at Westinghouse, using a brute force attack, decrypted a "secure" PDF file in 30 minutes. 40 bit RC4 is low level commercial grade cryptography and is not suitable for anything that needs to remain secure. By comparison; 128 bit RC4 will take more then 10^19 years to test all key combinations. Think of the existing Acrobat security mechanism as a lock on a door. It will keep most people out. But, it won't keep a locksmith out. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 20:22:03-GMT,2842;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15299 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:22:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18535; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:48:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:45:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18340; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:45:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Dick Gaskill To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:47:18 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The installer checks the Windows registry, not the actual file location, and that's why moving or copying the file to another location does not work when you try to upgrade. Further, the installer looks for Acrobat 3.0 Distiller or 3.01 Distiller only, not Exchange, and not Reader, so it does not matter if you have already upgraded either or both apps. And the installer upgrades only Distiller. The versions of Reader and Exchange are not changed. -dg ---------- From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 11:27 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? > > I found a Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe Web site. > When I tried > to install it, I got the following message: > > "Acrobat Distiller 3.02 will not be installed because > Setup cannot > detect the presence of Acrobat 3.0." The most common cause of this error are 1. Assuming that this will upgrade Acrobat Reader; the commercial Distiller product must already have been licensed; 2. Not installing Distiller in the normal way but, for instance, copying it from a different system. 3. Moving Distiller after installing it. For 2 and 3, uninstall and reinstall Distiller. +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 21:14:06-GMT,1353;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16640 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:14:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19570; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:08:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:04:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19345; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:04:27 -0500 Message-ID: <6B5C8C4247FCCF1189AF0080D88002AA0164C4AC@hrserv2> From: "Perry, Robert" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] JavaScript and forms Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:06:15 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can anyone point me to an example of Javascript being used in a form field? Thanks, -Bob Perry +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 21:25:54-GMT,2969;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16917 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:25:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21783; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:57:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:53:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21534; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:52:58 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6341.55722550.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF vs HTML... Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:26:14 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ian, > Is anyone else seeing a movement away from PDF to HTML for data > distribution? Not really. I do find, however, that some e-zines are far too reluctant to post past issues in PDF on their websites. Mail them and you get as stupid responses as: "...however you can print it. Remember to click first in the frame you want to print..." Gee, I thought zines are written for people to read them in the form they like best. Suppose sheer competition ain't enough - just take a look at Apple... > Personally I much prefer downloading a PDF (text and graphics in one > shot), to stepping through all the HTML pages and waiting for all the > images to download. Telecom charges here in France can be 5-7 times > higher than in the USA... > (Indeed, whenever I find a webpage that I like, I print the page to a PS > file and distill it. It would be nice if the background images could > also be printed :) sure, it is cheaper, faster and with design more consistent than webpage printing to PDF. BTW, you CAN print backgrounds (at least with Netscape), but you end up with VAST file sizes, like 500K for a three-page PDF. > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > ^^ > > Could BrowserMail people disable the sending of the HTML version > of the message! > And what's with the 'ms' stuff, are all these junk parts of > messages a method for a certain company to dominate the 'net? The folks MS seem to be dominance junkies, paranoid and childish enough to be afraid of doing business in a wild marketplace and in a fair manner. Jernej+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Apr-1998 21:28:28-GMT,2539;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16968 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:28:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21782; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:57:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:52:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21489; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:52:31 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6341.4DFC0CF0.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] indexing for the PDF files on the NT Server with the Index Server Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:19:02 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Joseph, You can find helper for Index server on Adobe's FTP site. It will allow you to perform full-text search as well as index PDFs. My experience: A friend of mine and I were playing with IIS 2.0 under NT4 the other day. For test, we indexed 30 megs of textual PDFs (law and regulations stuff). After processing we were able to search the index with relevant hits, but, alas, index files ate almost 90 megs of disk space. 88M index of 31M of files. Imagine Encyclopaedia Britannica being indexed this way... If this is *indexing* then I am God, period. I just hope Index Server does it better. Jernej On Wednesday, April 08, 1998 5:20 AM, wenj@ms13.hinet.net [SMTP:wenj@ms13.hinet.net] wrote: > > Hi, Every one: > > I just barely started working with the PDF stuff. We are interested in > the part of PDF that would allow the user to do the full-text search, > especially on the NT Platform by using the Index Server. However, as far > as I understand, I am especially interested in finding out how the > contents of the PDF files to be indexed by the Index Server. If there is > any body who can provide appropriate information will be highly appreciated. > > Joseph Wen +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 2:11:15-GMT,3164;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24446 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:11:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA30712; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:26:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:25:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA30633; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:25:35 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:47:18 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: re: Re: [PDF] PDF vs HTML... Cc: "Dmitri Hoffmeyer" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dimitri, It is one of the big advantages of Acrobat that it is available on a very wide range of platforms. I would not be surprised, if it were more platforms than any single HTML browser is available for. However, with Netscape Navigator source becoming available, this might change. Acrobat Reader is much more than just an addition to a web browser. In fact, it runs even better undisturbed by any web browser. Now, supposed Acrobat Reader would be bundled with a web browser, that web browser would grow by about the same size as the Reader itself (just a guess). So, I imagine you think people would download a huge browser package, but complain about downlaoding the same amount of data in several portions. Besides that, almost any reasonable software CD has a Reader version on it nowadays. This locking out of users occurs in other area as well. I think of browser specific features, where it is more difficult to get that certain functionality than to download Acrobat Reader. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind if all those magazine CD-ROMs would have the very newest Acrobat Reader... Just my two cents. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________ >Does anyone out there know anything about whether Adobe will some day make a >deal with one of the major browser companies (Microsoft or Netscape) to allow >the Acrobat Reader to be bundled with the browser? In my mind web content >will have to be provided in HTML in addition to PDF format until this >happens, as many users are deterred from viewing PDF files because of the >extra download time required to get Acrobat Reader. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 2:11:16-GMT,2155;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24449 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:11:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA29564; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:59:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:56:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29414; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:56:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804082358.TAA25024@freenet5.carleton.ca.carleton.ca> From: ohana@freenet.carleton.ca (John V Matthews Jr.) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Has Quark 4 made things worse? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just started using Quark 4 and it appears that Quark has made it even more difficult to write poscript files for later distilling. For example, even though I have the Virtual Printer as my printer when I attempt to print I never see the Virtual Printer options, only the Quark options. It looks like I can no longer specify which fonts are to be embedded and it also appears that I cannot specify the file name of the postcript file or its destination (e.g., the in box of the watched directory). Also I am having numerous Distiller 3.01 crashes when attmpting to distill files created from Quark 4. My solution to date has been to create documents in 4, then save as 3.3 then print from 3.3--pretty klunky. Are others having similar problems? I am using a Mac G3 running system 8.0 Best... John -- x ***************************************** JOHN MATTHEWS OHANA PRODUCTIONS: Multimedia Science Presentations +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 2:11:16-GMT,1956;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24451 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:11:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA30713; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:26:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:25:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA30657; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:25:39 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:25:22 +0200 To: PDF List Posting From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDF] Documenting JavaScripted Fields Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Now that I have some wonderful and very sophisticated forms, making heavy usage of JavaScript, I better want to document them. So, is there a tool or plug-in which would extract the field name and the JavaScripts (or even better, all the actions) and let me create an appropriate documentation. Ah yeah, and the tool must be available for Mac ... and beat manually searching for the appropriate objects in BBEdit... Thanks a lot for any pointers. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 8:05:32-GMT,2021;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA21345 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:05:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA12597; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:30:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:26:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12437; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:26:56 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565E0.006E92F8.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:20:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] indexing for the PDF files on the NT Server with the Index Server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Joseph Wen wrote: I am especially interested in finding out how the contents of the PDF files to be indexed by the Index Server. If there is any body who can provide appropriate information will be highly appreciated. Joseph: Not sure what the question is; but, The setup is usually: NT server/share root directory >> index.pdx file, index resources folders,(3 to 5MB per 5,000 pages) All your pdfs in any folder you like on the share/drive. Link your desktop shortcut or program manager icon to a pdf file that launchs the search feature upon opening. If this is not the answer you want, ask again with more specifics. You may be asking for a CGI script to launch search from within a browser. Rick bishop +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 9:14:00-GMT,2495;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23425 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 03:13:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA14808; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 03:46:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 03:41:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14628; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 03:41:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199804090841.DAA14624@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Mixed-Sized PDF documents Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 09:42:49 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA14625 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >We have a single PDF file with both legal and letter sized pages. Is there >any way to automatically print these pages in their intended page size >without >using the shrink to fit option? Since these are legal (as in regulatory) >documents, we donít really want a legal (as in size) form shrunk to print >on >letter paper. It seems the paper size choice lies with the print driver, >and >you end up with the letter sized pages printed on legal paper, or legal >sized >pages truncated on letter paper, depending on your paper choice. I don't understand the problem. I see this is a printer related problem: how could you tell the printer to select one paper format if another is loaded in the printer? I don't want to semplify the question, but you would need a printer capable to deal with multiple formats together and a printer driver that senses the page format and uses the correct paper. I don't know desktop printers and/or drivers that do that, so this is not an Acrobat-related problem, but more general (would you be able to do the same with a multiple page/format FreeHand doc?). Andrea +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 15:36:32-GMT,2651;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02971 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:36:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA29123; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:10:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:06:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28839; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:05:59 -0500 Message-ID: <352CE464.71AB96C4@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:08:20 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Discussion List Subject: Re: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Richard Marisa wrote: > > Actually, as long as the document is viewable (i.e., even if printing is > "disabled") it is possible to eliminate all of the security (i.e., print, > resave as postscript, unlocked pdf, etc.). If the file is encrypted, then > the security is as good as the encryption scheme. [...following offline discussion w/ Richard...] This is most certainly true; I stand corrected (duh!). If an "open" password is not supplied, it is straightforward to defeat the security as described above. If an "open" password is supplied, then one needs to crack the 40-bit RC4 encryption. C.f. a note regarding security in Adobe's PDF spec: Despite the specification of document permissions in a PDF file, PDF cannot enforce the restrictions specified. It is up to the implementors of PDF viewers to respect the intent of the document creator by limiting access to an encrypted PDF file according to the permissions and passwords contained in the file. Document creators have two choices if the standard encryption provided by PDF is not sufficient. They can use an alternative, more secure, security handler, or they can encrypt whole PDF documents, bypassing PDF security entirely. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 16:23:34-GMT,5268;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04785 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:23:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA32216; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:10:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:07:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32062; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:07:53 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6397.397AC2C0@wbristow.standard.com> From: Walter Bristow To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:14:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD6397.397AC2C0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD6397.397AC2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Given this, and assuming that you want people to be able to print a = form, etc., how concerned are people about using PDF forms? For example, = I note that the IRS lets you download forms and print them out. Why are = they not concerned about people making subtle changes to the forms? Walt -----Original Message----- From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com [SMTP:csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 12:08 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? not very secure. all security can be eliminated from a pdf secured = by=20 standard methods by merely writing the file to postscript and=20 distilling. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD6397.397AC2C0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IicQAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAsAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAAeAAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAA AB4AAzABAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEw AQAAABgAAAAncGRmQGxpc3RzLnBkZnpvbmUuY29tJwACAQswAQAAABsAAABTTVRQOlBERkBMSVNU Uy5QREZaT05FLkNPTQAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAB4A9l8BAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQAAAAIB918BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5w ZGZ6b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAADAP1fAQAAAAMA/18AAAAA AgH2DwEAAAAEAAAAAAAAAvlbAQSAAQAkAAAAUkU6IFtQREZdIEhvdyBzZWN1cmUgYXJlIHBkZiBm aWxlcz8AnAsBBYADAA4AAADOBwQACQAIAA4ACgAEAAYBASCAAwAOAAAAzgcEAAkACAAMABsABAAV AQEJgAEAIQAAADM0QjQ3OTJEN0NDRkQxMTE4ODZDMDBDMDRGRDEzNTYwABYHAQOQBgD8BQAAIQAA AAsAAgABAAAACwAjAAAAAAADACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAAAwAuAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQDgffMl ymO9AR4AcAABAAAAJAAAAFJFOiBbUERGXSBIb3cgc2VjdXJlIGFyZSBwZGYgZmlsZXM/AAIBcQAB AAAAFgAAAAG9Y8ol6y15tDXPfBHRiGwAwE/RNWAAAB4AHgwBAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEA AAAWAAAAd2JyaXN0b3dAc3RhbmRhcmQuY29tAAAAAwAGELdHNIUDAAcQLwIAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAA AEdJVkVOVEhJUyxBTkRBU1NVTUlOR1RIQVRZT1VXQU5UUEVPUExFVE9CRUFCTEVUT1BSSU5UQUZP Uk0sRVRDLEhPV0NPTkNFUk5FREFSRVBFT1BMRUFCT1VUVVNJTkdQREZGT1IAAAAAAgEJEAEAAADR AgAAzQIAAEoEAABMWkZ10e/4Z3cACgEDAfcgAqQD4wIAY4JoCsBzZXQwIAcThwKDAFAO9nBycTIP 9iZ9CoAIyCA7CW8yNWY1AoAKgXVjAFALA2MDAEELYG5nMTAzMyELpiBHaXYJ8CB00mgEACwgAHBk FxAEEFR1bQuAZxaxYQVAeRkIYCB3AHAFQHBlb8ULUGUWsG8gYhkgAaBPGRQRQAuABUBhIAIQciZt FwAPwGMuFwBob/MH4AWgbmMEkQmAFxAJcG8YxgGgCGAFQHUAkBfBUIRERhqTcz8gRgWxMGV4YW0Z ARcASSB4bm90GSEYAhbAGSBJtlIF8BkQdAQgGEJkG3D6bgkAYRdAHfMXExokH/EEbSAdES4gV2h5 /xwzH/EjUB9RG5odAxjVAMDmaxeyF4BidBkRD3EVcH8HkRlBH/Id9AqiCoQKgFcNB0B0J+oK9Gxp MzbfAUAVEAFAEUAfYWMo0BCTUDE2IC0rok8FEGfPC4AHQAXQB5BzYSbQK6MfJ+YqtCqBCxMqtmkt MYw0NAFAKgAxODABQFsM0C9DYh5QA2E6DINiIQ/gY3NueQSBQG0iYwnAYXctFtBsbAYuBaAiwFtT TVRQ9joxbzJ0XSflMHAGYAIwDTDXVwmAHABzZGF5TRcAQRohAyAwOBcAMcg5OTg3YDI6NzAdoBJN NMdUbzDXcGRmqkAqAHMgkC45gXoCIPplMpI7OX86jzuZNMgmMMZqKuEw11JlOjLQHbHYXSBIG3EP sGMIcBmB/xxSPHAakAMQB5An1y3PKuLvKgQLtij9CoAgRTIkAhaAfnIjUEAkIxAHQAMgQCNp2nQj UGMDkRlxZSoAF6F/GBAcEQNSGnFA0kAkF0Bi/yNQRNk7UBchCxEloA/AG2BeZAQgSbEHgAlwbCNQ d99HERe0J2FBIRnjbztRBQS7FyJE2WQ7QTJhF7EuRB8LKDUSAQBRkAAAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAEA AAADAIAQ/////0AABzCgZ6royWO9AUAACDCgZ6royWO9AQsAAIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAA AAOFAAAAAAAAAwAEgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAAYUAAAAAAAADAA2ACCAGAAAAAADAAAAA AAAARgAAAABShQAAtw0AAB4ADoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFSFAAABAAAABAAAADguMAAL ABKACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAOhQAAAAAAAAMAE4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABCF AAAAAAAAAwAUgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEYUAAAAAAAADABeACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAA RgAAAAAYhQAAAAAAAB4AJ4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADaFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeACiA CCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA3hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgApgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYA AAAAOIUAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4APQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAAAwANNP03AADFTw== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD6397.397AC2C0-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 16:23:54-GMT,1736;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04801 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:23:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA31655; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:58:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:55:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31423; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:55:38 -0500 Message-ID: <352CB8CB.B74ADEF7@discountlabels.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 12:02:21 +0000 From: "Paul Harstrom" Organization: Discount Labels, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Discussion List Subject: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am new to the "PDF" world and I need some help. My Question is: "how easy is it (and how do you do it) to color separate a PDF File? I need to be able to Step-n-Repeat the job and distort the file for printing on a press. I currently am set-up to receive any macintosh application file as well as the standard PC files. Thanks Paul H +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 16:43:13-GMT,5268;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05615 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:43:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA32615; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:19:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:17:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32475; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:17:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6398.9071D540@wbristow.standard.com> From: Walter Bristow To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:14:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD6398.9071D540" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD6398.9071D540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Given this, and assuming that you want people to be able to print a = form, etc., how concerned are people about using PDF forms? For example, = I note that the IRS lets you download forms and print them out. Why are = they not concerned about people making subtle changes to the forms? Walt -----Original Message----- From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com [SMTP:csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 12:08 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? not very secure. all security can be eliminated from a pdf secured = by=20 standard methods by merely writing the file to postscript and=20 distilling. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD6398.9071D540 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+Ig4QAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAsAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAAeAAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAA AB4AAzABAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEw AQAAABgAAAAncGRmQGxpc3RzLnBkZnpvbmUuY29tJwACAQswAQAAABsAAABTTVRQOlBERkBMSVNU Uy5QREZaT05FLkNPTQAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAB4A9l8BAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQAAAAIB918BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5w ZGZ6b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAADAP1fAQAAAAMA/18AAAAA AgH2DwEAAAAEAAAAAAAAAvlbAQSAAQAkAAAAUkU6IFtQREZdIEhvdyBzZWN1cmUgYXJlIHBkZiBm aWxlcz8AnAsBBYADAA4AAADOBwQACQAIAA4ACgAEAAYBASCAAwAOAAAAzgcEAAkACAAMABsABAAV AQEJgAEAIQAAADM0QjQ3OTJEN0NDRkQxMTE4ODZDMDBDMDRGRDEzNTYwABYHAQOQBgD8BQAAIQAA AAsAAgABAAAACwAjAAAAAAADACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAAAwAuAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQDgffMl ymO9AR4AcAABAAAAJAAAAFJFOiBbUERGXSBIb3cgc2VjdXJlIGFyZSBwZGYgZmlsZXM/AAIBcQAB AAAAFgAAAAG9Y8ol6y15tDXPfBHRiGwAwE/RNWAAAB4AHgwBAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEA AAAWAAAAd2JyaXN0b3dAc3RhbmRhcmQuY29tAAAAAwAGELdHNIUDAAcQLwIAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAA AEdJVkVOVEhJUyxBTkRBU1NVTUlOR1RIQVRZT1VXQU5UUEVPUExFVE9CRUFCTEVUT1BSSU5UQUZP Uk0sRVRDLEhPV0NPTkNFUk5FREFSRVBFT1BMRUFCT1VUVVNJTkdQREZGT1IAAAAAAgEJEAEAAADR AgAAzQIAAEoEAABMWkZ10e/4Z3cACgEDAfcgAqQD4wIAY4JoCsBzZXQwIAcThwKDAFAO9nBycTIP 9iZ9CoAIyCA7CW8yNWY1AoAKgXVjAFALA2MDAEELYG5nMTAzMyELpiBHaXYJ8CB00mgEACwgAHBk FxAEEFR1bQuAZxaxYQVAeRkIYCB3AHAFQHBlb8ULUGUWsG8gYhkgAaBPGRQRQAuABUBhIAIQciZt FwAPwGMuFwBob/MH4AWgbmMEkQmAFxAJcG8YxgGgCGAFQHUAkBfBUIRERhqTcz8gRgWxMGV4YW0Z ARcASSB4bm90GSEYAhbAGSBJtlIF8BkQdAQgGEJkG3D6bgkAYRdAHfMXExokH/EEbSAdES4gV2h5 /xwzH/EjUB9RG5odAxjVAMDmaxeyF4BidBkRD3EVcH8HkRlBH/Id9AqiCoQKgFcNB0B0J+oK9Gxp MzbfAUAVEAFAEUAfYWMo0BCTUDE2IC0rok8FEGfPC4AHQAXQB5BzYSbQK6MfJ+YqtCqBCxMqtmkt MYw0NAFAKgAxODABQFsM0C9DYh5QA2E6DINiIQ/gY3NueQSBQG0iYwnAYXctFtBsbAYuBaAiwFtT TVRQ9joxbzJ0XSflMHAGYAIwDTDXVwmAHABzZGF5TRcAQRohAyAwOBcAMcg5OTg3YDI6NzAdoBJN NMdUbzDXcGRmqkAqAHMgkC45gXoCIPplMpI7OX86jzuZNMgmMMZqKuEw11JlOjLQHbHYXSBIG3EP sGMIcBmB/xxSPHAakAMQB5An1y3PKuLvKgQLtij9CoAgRTIkAhaAfnIjUEAkIxAHQAMgQCNp2nQj UGMDkRlxZSoAF6F/GBAcEQNSGnFA0kAkF0Bi/yNQRNk7UBchCxEloA/AG2BeZAQgSbEHgAlwbCNQ d99HERe0J2FBIRnjbztRBQS7FyJE2WQ7QTJhF7EuRB8LKDUSAQBRkAAAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAEA AAADAIAQ/////0AABzCgZ6royWO9AUAACDCgZ6royWO9AQsAAIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAA AAOFAAAAAAAAAwAEgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAAYUAAAAAAAADAA2ACCAGAAAAAADAAAAA AAAARgAAAABShQAAtw0AAB4ADoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFSFAAABAAAABAAAADguMAAL ABKACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAOhQAAAAAAAAMAE4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABCF AAAAAAAAAwAUgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEYUAAAAAAAADABeACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAA RgAAAAAYhQAAAAAAAB4AJ4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADaFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeACiA CCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA3hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgApgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYA AAAAOIUAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4APQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAAAwANNP03AADFTw== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD6398.9071D540-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 17:18:21-GMT,2074;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06948 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:18:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01382; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:48:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:45:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01241; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:45:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:49:10 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Richard Marisa To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? In-Reply-To: <01BD6398.9071D540@wbristow.standard.com> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: rjm2@cupid.cit.cornell.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I suppose they have the advantage of several hundred pages of federal laws. ;-) -- Rich Marisa Cornell Univ. On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Walter Bristow wrote: > Given this, and assuming that you want people to be able to print a form, etc., > how concerned are people about using PDF forms? For example, I note that > the IRS lets you download forms and print them out. Why are they not > concerned about people making subtle changes to the forms? > > Walt > > Subject: Re: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? > > > > not very secure. all security can be eliminated from a pdf secured by > standard methods by merely writing the file to postscript and > distilling. > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 17:32:13-GMT,3685;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07514 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:32:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA03083; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:22:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:20:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02959; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:20:05 -0500 From: jprescott@ioma.com Date: Thu, 09 Apr 98 13:06:05 Message-Id: <9803098921.AA892152365@ioma.ioma.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a registered version of Acrobat 3.01, I installed it in the regular way, and I have not moved it. I have tried installing the 3.02 upgrade with Distiller 3.01 closed (as usual) and open (just to show the computer that I do indeed have it installed!). My shortcuts to Distiller work, and the program is on the main hard drive. Has anybody else had this problem? The original post was mine and here it is: I found a Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe Web site. When I tried to install it, I got the following message: "Acrobat Distiller 3.02 will not be installed because Setup cannot detect the presence of Acrobat 3.0." Does anybody know why this is? I have Acrobat 3.01 installed. Also, what is this upgrade and is it worth installing even if I can? ------------------------------------------------ From: Dick Gaskill Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? The installer checks the Windows registry, not the actual file location, and that's why moving or copying the file to another location does not work when you try to upgrade. Further, the installer looks for Acrobat 3.0 Distiller or 3.01 Distiller only, not Exchange, and not Reader, so it does not matter if you have already upgraded either or both apps. And the installer upgrades only Distiller. The versions of Reader and Exchange are not changed. - -dg ---------- From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 11:27 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? > > I found a Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe Web site. > When I tried > to install it, I got the following message: > > "Acrobat Distiller 3.02 will not be installed because > Setup cannot > detect the presence of Acrobat 3.0." The most common cause of this error are 1. Assuming that this will upgrade Acrobat Reader; the commercial Distiller product must already have been licensed; 2. Not installing Distiller in the normal way but, for instance, copying it from a different system. 3. Moving Distiller after installing it. For 2 and 3, uninstall and reinstall Distiller. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 18:25:36-GMT,4769;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10197 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:24:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA04587; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:58:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:57:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04519; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:57:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Hiatt, Mike" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:03:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm sorry you're having such trouble. I downloaded the upgrade to a directory on my hard drive I call Neatstuff, clicked Start, then Run, found the upgrade exe in Neatstuff, clicked OK and sat back. In a few seconds it had opened Distiller and updated it. My Distiller now shows its version as 3.02. > -----Original Message----- > From: jprescott@ioma.com [SMTP:jprescott@ioma.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 1998 8:06 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? > > > > > I have a registered version of Acrobat 3.01, I installed it in the > regular way, and I have not moved it. I have tried installing the > 3.02 > upgrade with Distiller 3.01 closed (as usual) and open (just to show > the computer that I do indeed have it installed!). My shortcuts to > Distiller work, and the program is on the main hard drive. Has > anybody > else had this problem? > > > The original post was mine and here it is: > > I found a Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe Web site. When I tried > to install it, I got the following message: > > "Acrobat Distiller 3.02 will not be installed because Setup cannot > detect the presence of Acrobat 3.0." > > Does anybody know why this is? I have Acrobat 3.01 installed. > > Also, what is this upgrade and is it worth installing even if I can? > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > From: Dick Gaskill > Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? > > The installer checks the Windows registry, not the actual file > location, and that's why moving or copying the file to another > location does not work when you try to upgrade. Further, the > installer looks for Acrobat 3.0 Distiller or 3.01 Distiller only, not > > Exchange, and not Reader, so it does not matter if you have already > upgraded either or both apps. And the installer upgrades only > Distiller. The versions of Reader and > Exchange are not changed. > - -dg > > ---------- > From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 11:27 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? > > > > > > I found a Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe Web site. > > When I tried > > to install it, I got the following message: > > > > "Acrobat Distiller 3.02 will not be installed because > > Setup cannot > > detect the presence of Acrobat 3.0." > > The most common cause of this error are > > 1. Assuming that this will upgrade Acrobat Reader; the > commercial Distiller > product must already have been licensed; > 2. Not installing Distiller in the normal way but, for instance, > copying > it from a different system. > 3. Moving Distiller after installing it. > > For 2 and 3, uninstall and reinstall Distiller. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Apr-1998 18:31:54-GMT,2201;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10475 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:31:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05176; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:11:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:09:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05112; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:09:50 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565E1.00628924.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:11:35 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] How secure are pdf files? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Walt wrote: >I note that the IRS lets you download forms and print them out. Why >are they not concerned about people making subtle changes to the >forms? If you are the person completing (filling in) the form; you examine and read it closely. If you are the person extracting data from certain fields, the rest could be the text of a nursery rhyme and you wouldn't notice or care. The form has served it's purpose. It's the redistribution that can get you into trouble. Change line 42a to: Subtract $12,500 from what you owe the IRS, then replace the real 1040 at the Public Library or Post Office. The same holds true if you download someone's pdf of their treatise on 'Birds of Mauritania', edit it and republish as your own work. Why would you want to? Changing another's work rarely results in monetary benefit. When it does, you can bet that the government, Warner Bros., MicroSoft, or someone will be after you. Rick +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 0:03:05-GMT,1622;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22106 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:03:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA20108; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:40:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:36:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19892; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:36:55 -0500 X-Sender: lhall@vipmail.earthlink.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:38:30 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Lance Hall Subject: [PDF] PDF from a website Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I recently tried printing to a PDF file from a web page (Adobe's Event, Trade Shows, etc.), and though the PDF file was created, the text was cut off on the right edge. So I tried printing to a PostScript file first and then distilling to a PDF file. Same result. Ideas? Solutions? Thanks in advance. Lance Hall Senior Consultant Eureka Electronic Publishing, Inc. lhall@eurekapub.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 1:43:56-GMT,2061;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24426 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:43:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA23831; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:21:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:18:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23704; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:17:58 -0500 From: intense@pro.net Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980410012303.0069be6c@pro.net> X-Sender: intense@pro.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:23:03 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from a website Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 try shrink to fit in your print dialogue box. VL At 04:38 PM 4/9/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I recently tried printing to a PDF file from a web page (Adobe's Event, >Trade Shows, etc.), and though the PDF file was created, the text was cut >off on the right edge. > >So I tried printing to a PostScript file first and then distilling to a PDF >file. Same result. > >Ideas? Solutions? Thanks in advance. > >Lance Hall >Senior Consultant >Eureka Electronic Publishing, Inc. >lhall@eurekapub.com > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 8:59:44-GMT,2026;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22126 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:59:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA03674; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:23:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:19:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA03565; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:19:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from a website Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:49:52 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01bd6459$9522e180$4ff682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I recently tried printing to a PDF file from a web page > (Adobe's Event, > Trade Shows, etc.), and though the PDF file was created, the > text was cut > off on the right edge. > > So I tried printing to a PostScript file first and then > distilling to a PDF > file. Same result. Web browsers aren't very geared to printing convenience. In this case the page is formatted with tables, which enforce a minimum width on the printout. The solution is at hand, though. In the PostScript driver setup there is probably a scale option. Try 80%. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 13:36:25-GMT,2303;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27720 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:36:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA02451; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:18:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:08:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02050; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:08:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980410150953.007d6280@re.nettuno.it> X-Sender: reg001d1@re.nettuno.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:09:53 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: LinkService Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File In-Reply-To: <352CB8CB.B74ADEF7@discountlabels.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Paul, to separate a PDF file you can use CRACKERJACK an Acrobat Exchange Plug-in from Lantana (www.lantanarips.com) but it cannot do a Step-n-repeat function. Regards, Vainer Gilioli LinkService Srl At 12.02 09/04/98 +0000, you wrote: > >I am new to the "PDF" world and I need some help. My Question is: "how >easy is it (and how do you do it) to color separate a PDF File? > >I need to be able to Step-n-Repeat the job and distort the file for >printing on a press. > >I currently am set-up to receive any macintosh application file as well >as the standard PC files. > >Thanks >Paul H > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 14:21:16-GMT,3028;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29029 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:21:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04222; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:58:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:53:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03957; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:53:26 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6498.D07447D0.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.02 upgrade? Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:42:53 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Janice, if you're running NT, it is always a good idea to reboot the machine before upgrading or installing anything. Before reboot a regular shutdown of the system (not reset) should be performed. Installer troubles and other weird things are not unusual if you leave machine on for days or weeks. If it still fails try reinstalling version 3.01, then upgrading to 3.02. If you're running win95, then heaven (might) help you. Worth upgrading? Patches like this usualy have less bugs than "dot zero" releases. According to Adobe: ================================ This update incorporates a number of fixes and performance enhancements including: - Graphics appear when the resolution is 1700 dpi or greater. - Distiller 3.02 supports PDF Mark operations larger than 128K. - PDF files containing Type 3 fonts appear and print correctly. - Watched Folders: In the Watched Folders dialog box, if the option "Delete files in 'out' folder older than XX days" is selected, Distiller only deletes the *.ps files. You must manually remove any other files. ================================ For further info go to Adobe's webpage. Jernej On Wednesday, April 08, 1998 12:18 PM, jprescott@ioma.com [SMTP:jprescott@ioma.com] wrote: > To all, > > I found a Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe Web site. When I tried > to install it, I got the following message: > > "Acrobat Distiller 3.02 will not be installed because Setup cannot > detect the presence of Acrobat 3.0." > > Does anybody know why this is? I have Acrobat 3.01 installed. > > Also, what is this upgrade and is it worth installing even if I can? > > Thanks for any help you can give, > Janice Prescott +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 15:06:23-GMT,2976;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00549 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:06:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA06520; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:50:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:46:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06315; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:46:05 -0500 Message-ID: <352DF983.F931BC21@discountlabels.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:50:45 +0000 From: "Paul Harstrom" Organization: Discount Labels, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File References: <3.0.5.32.19980410150953.007d6280@re.nettuno.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks for your reply. If I can get it into a EPS then I can perform the step-n-repeat in either Illustrator, Freehand or Quark. Will Crackerjack separate into a formatt acceptable to these programs for manipulation??? Thanks Paul H LinkService wrote: > Dear Paul, > > to separate a PDF file you can use CRACKERJACK an Acrobat Exchange Plug-in > from Lantana (www.lantanarips.com) but it cannot do a Step-n-repeat function. > > Regards, > > Vainer Gilioli > LinkService Srl > > At 12.02 09/04/98 +0000, you wrote: > > > >I am new to the "PDF" world and I need some help. My Question is: "how > >easy is it (and how do you do it) to color separate a PDF File? > > > >I need to be able to Step-n-Repeat the job and distort the file for > >printing on a press. > > > >I currently am set-up to receive any macintosh application file as well > >as the standard PC files. > > > >Thanks > >Paul H > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 15:16:53-GMT,2106;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00939 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:16:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07549; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:06:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:03:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07246; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:03:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:01:51 +0100 Message-ID: <001001bd6491$9c02b2e0$4ff682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <352CB8CB.B74ADEF7@discountlabels.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I am new to the "PDF" world and I need some help. My > Question is: "how > easy is it (and how do you do it) to color separate a PDF File? > > I need to be able to Step-n-Repeat the job and distort the file for > printing on a press. > > I currently am set-up to receive any macintosh application > file as well > as the standard PC files. Well, to answer we probably need to turn the question around - how do you colour separate NOW? How would you separate a PostScript file someone delivered? Is the step&repeat a separate question? Again, how would you do this now? What sort of distortion do you mean? Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 15:20:59-GMT,1765;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01069 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:20:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07917; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:13:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:11:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07802; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:11:17 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:09:36 -0500 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: "Roy J. Davis" Subject: [PDF] problem opening fdf in exchange via OLE from vb... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am trying to get Exchange to open an FDF file via OLE from VB and am getting the following error: There was an error oprning this document. File does not begin with %PDF. This is wierd because I can open it just fine if I go to Exchange and do a file/open. Can anyone out there give me any ideas??? thanks. -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 15:45:23-GMT,3180;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02065 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:45:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08699; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:26:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:24:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08536; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:24:12 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:22:55 +0100 Message-ID: <001101bd6494$8ee2af40$4ff682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <352DF983.F931BC21@discountlabels.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > If I can get it into a EPS then I can > perform the > step-n-repeat in either Illustrator, Freehand or Quark. Will > Crackerjack > separate into a formatt acceptable to these programs for > manipulation??? It's worth repeating how Crackerjack separates, since there are a number of misconception. Crackerjack is used instead of the print dialog, and gives much more device control for PostScript printing. It can make separations on most level 2 and level 3 imagesetters, but not desktop printers. It makes separations by sending composite data to the imagesetter and switching on the (much underused) in-RIP separation feature. So you cannot do anything with that PostScript file except print it (I believe). You can export EPS from Exchange - standard on a Mac, new plug-in available for Windows, or see the PDFToolBox for an alternative export. Exported EPS can be placed and hence used for step and repeat. An alternative would be to step and repeat the PDF file in Exchange using Quite Imposing Plus (disclaimer: this is my company's product). Then printing separations with Crackerjack becomes a possibility. I don't know how well placed EPS files from Exchange separate in XPress or Illustrator. By redistilling the print output you can proof your separations as PDF, which is useful. Additionally there was, and will be again, but isn't right now, a PDF Import facility for PageMaker. With this you can place PDF pages as if they are EPS files. They might well separate. References: Crackerjack http://www.lantanarips.com/ (demo available) Quite Imposing Plus http://www.quite.com/imposing/ (demo available) PDFToolBox http://www.callas.de/ Aandi Inston Quite Software +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 16:38:33-GMT,3573;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04159 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:38:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA12420; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:19:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:15:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12111; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:15:32 -0500 Message-ID: <352E0E80.3FEC2681@discountlabels.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:20:20 +0000 From: "Paul Harstrom" Organization: Discount Labels, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File References: <001101bd6494$8ee2af40$4ff682c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thank You for your response! PH Aandi Inston wrote: > > If I can get it into a EPS then I can > > perform the > > step-n-repeat in either Illustrator, Freehand or Quark. Will > > Crackerjack > > separate into a formatt acceptable to these programs for > > manipulation??? > > It's worth repeating how Crackerjack separates, since there are > a number of misconception. > > Crackerjack is used instead of the print dialog, and gives much > more device control for PostScript printing. It can make separations > on most level 2 and level 3 imagesetters, but not desktop printers. > It makes separations by sending composite data to the imagesetter > and switching on the (much underused) in-RIP separation feature. > > So you cannot do anything with that PostScript file except print > it (I believe). > > You can export EPS from Exchange - standard on a Mac, new plug-in > available for Windows, or see the PDFToolBox for an alternative > export. > > Exported EPS can be placed and hence used for step and repeat. An > alternative would be to step and repeat the PDF file in Exchange using > Quite Imposing Plus (disclaimer: this is my company's product). Then > printing separations with Crackerjack becomes a possibility. > > I don't know how well placed EPS files from Exchange separate in XPress > or Illustrator. By redistilling the print output you can proof > your separations as PDF, which is useful. > > Additionally there was, and will be again, but isn't right now, a PDF > Import facility for PageMaker. With this you can place PDF pages as > if they are EPS files. They might well separate. > > References: > Crackerjack http://www.lantanarips.com/ (demo available) > Quite Imposing Plus http://www.quite.com/imposing/ (demo available) > PDFToolBox http://www.callas.de/ > > Aandi Inston > Quite Software > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 18:11:07-GMT,3083;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07973 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:11:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17012; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:52:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:48:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16849; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:48:07 -0500 Message-ID: <352E2432.A27E857E@discountlabels.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:52:57 +0000 From: "Paul Harstrom" Organization: Discount Labels, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File References: <001001bd6491$9c02b2e0$4ff682c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Currently we place a "tiff or eps" into Quark and step-n-repeat. If a "stroke" is needed to help avoid bad registration on our press' then we have to do this in a vector program (which we use Freehand and Illustrator). What I mean by distortion is this: Because I am a "flexo" print shop--I use polymer plates--these stretch when put on press. Therefore I have to "distort" them or reduce the size so I can get a 100% plate. Example a 2" dia on a 650 press would be distorted to 98.43%. After being stretched on press you get a true 100% label. My only goal is to convert a PDF file into a usable eps/tiff. Your comments are appreciated! Thanks PH Aandi Inston wrote: > > I am new to the "PDF" world and I need some help. My > > Question is: "how > > easy is it (and how do you do it) to color separate a PDF File? > > > > I need to be able to Step-n-Repeat the job and distort the file for > > printing on a press. > > > > I currently am set-up to receive any macintosh application > > file as well > > as the standard PC files. > > Well, to answer we probably need to turn the question around - > how do you colour separate NOW? How would you separate a PostScript > file someone delivered? > > Is the step&repeat a separate question? Again, how would you do this > now? > > What sort of distortion do you mean? > > Aandi > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 20:07:51-GMT,3771;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11921 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21920; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:50:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:44:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21642; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:44:39 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6493.200042A0.cpetito@frontiernet.net> From: Carl Petito To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] problem opening fdf in exchange via OLE from vb... Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:12:48 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you get it to work, please let me know. I have the same problem and have reported it to Adobe. What I am doing now is generating the fdf file, and then loading the pdf file with OpenInWindowEx. The pdf file has a set Page Action, Page Open to import the data from the fdf file. One problem, Exchange must be set for Single Page viewing; otherwise the Page Open does not occur. Please let me know if you have a better work around. Excerpts of the problem report and replies follow. Problem: "If I use Exchange to open the fdf, the data is merged with the pdf file and is displayed. If I use my application or vboiw, I am unable to open the fdf file" Reply 1: "I was able to reproduce the same thing. I can open the PDF file, but trying to open the FDF file produces an error. Normally, Acrobat looks for the /F Key that points to the associated PDF file. That seems to work just fine for Exchange, but not for VBOIW sample. I'll investigate as to why this doesn't work and get back with you." Reply 2: "I have logged a bug report with Engineering to have this fixed. The bug # is 249024. Use this bug report number in the future to reference your problem. It won't be fixed until the next release of the Acrobat API. I have no date as to when it will be out. In the mean time, as a work around you may want to try opening the PDF file, then import the form data." Carl Petito ActiveLabs Development -----Original Message----- From: Roy J. Davis [SMTP:rdavis@intranetsol.com] Sent: Friday, April 10, 1998 11:10 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] problem opening fdf in exchange via OLE from vb... I am trying to get Exchange to open an FDF file via OLE from VB and am getting the following error: There was an error oprning this document. File does not begin with %PDF. This is wierd because I can open it just fine if I go to Exchange and do a file/open. Can anyone out there give me any ideas??? thanks. -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 20:59:48-GMT,4582;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13867 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:59:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23985; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:39:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:35:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23822; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:35:49 -0500 Message-ID: <352E8380.F54E8591@intranetsol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:39:28 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] problem opening fdf in exchange via OLE from vb... References: <01BD6493.200042A0.cpetito@frontiernet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ok thanks. I also have reported the bug to Adobe. One question, how do you fire off Acrobat in single user mode? Does it have to *already* be running when I make the OLE call? thanks. ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- Carl Petito wrote: > > If you get it to work, please let me know. I have the same problem and > have reported it to Adobe. > > What I am doing now is generating the fdf file, and then loading the pdf > file with OpenInWindowEx. The pdf file has a set Page Action, Page Open to > import the data from the fdf file. One problem, Exchange must be set for > Single Page viewing; otherwise the Page Open does not occur. > > Please let me know if you have a better work around. > > Excerpts of the problem report and replies follow. > > Problem: "If I use Exchange to open the fdf, the data is merged with the > pdf file and is displayed. If I use my application or vboiw, I am unable > to open the fdf file" > > Reply 1: "I was able to reproduce the same thing. I can open the PDF file, > but trying to open the FDF file produces an error. Normally, Acrobat looks > for the /F Key that points to the associated PDF file. That seems to work > just fine for Exchange, but not for VBOIW sample. I'll investigate as to > why this doesn't work and get back with you." > > Reply 2: "I have logged a bug report with Engineering to have this fixed. > The bug # is 249024. Use this bug report number in the future to reference > your > problem. It won't be fixed until the next release of the Acrobat API. I > have no date as to when it will be out. In the mean time, as a work around > you may want to try opening the PDF file, then import the form data." > > Carl Petito > > ActiveLabs Development > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy J. Davis [SMTP:rdavis@intranetsol.com] > Sent: Friday, April 10, 1998 11:10 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] problem opening fdf in exchange via OLE from vb... > > I am trying to get Exchange to open an FDF file via OLE from VB and > am getting the following error: > > There was an error oprning this document. > File does not begin with %PDF. > > This is wierd because I can open it just fine if I go to > Exchange and do a file/open. > > Can anyone out there give me any ideas??? > > thanks. > > -- > ------------------------- > Roy J. Davis > Software Engineer > IntraNet Solutions, Inc. > Eden Prairie, MN. > roy.davis@intranetsol.com > ------------------------- > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 21:10:24-GMT,1741;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14295 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:10:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24652; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:57:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:52:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24438; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:52:10 -0500 Message-ID: <352E8667.17F2B585@infogrp.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:51:52 -0400 From: "Chris Curley" Organization: THE INFO GROUP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Mailing List Subject: [PDF] Printing error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Kind of a newbie question here. I recently downloaded a PDF file from the Web. However, when I try to print the file, I get an "illegal operation" error and Exchange shuts down. In the Document Info for the file the security settings for printing are "Allowed." Anyone have an idea why I can't print these files and is there a way around it? Thank you very much for any help. Chris Curley Technical Writer The Info Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Apr-1998 21:48:23-GMT,3773;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15801 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:48:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA25983; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:28:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:24:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25823; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:24:56 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:24:33 -0500 From: Paul Schulte To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Mixed-Sized PDF documents - Reply Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Another look ... >>> Andrea Valle 04/09 2:42 am >>> >We have a single PDF file with both legal and letter sized pages. Is there >any way to automatically print these pages in their intended page size >without >using the shrink to fit option? Since these are legal (as in regulatory) >documents, we donit really want a legal (as in size) form shrunk to print >on >letter paper. It seems the paper size choice lies with the print driver, >and >you end up with the letter sized pages printed on legal paper, or legal >sized >pages truncated on letter paper, depending on your paper choice. I don't understand the problem. I see this is a printer related problem: how could you tell the printer to select one paper format if another is loaded in the printer? I don't want to semplify the question, but you would need a printer capable to deal with multiple formats together and a printer driver that senses the page format and uses the correct paper. I don't know desktop printers and/or drivers that do that, so this is not an Acrobat-related problem, but more general (would you be able to do the same with a multiple page/format FreeHand doc?). Andrea +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Andrea and all list members, Another way to look at this question: We have Engineering Change Orders (ECO's), which include paper markups to both A (8&1/2 X 11) and B (11 X 17) size originals. (Our C and D size originals always have been reduced to B size as paper copying and distribution was more difficult years ago when these decisions were made.) In essence, these ECO's become one document, regardless of the mix of paper sizes. Based on previous list inputs, it looks like there is only ONE way to print these to the correct paper sizes: Manual human intervention. A human operator must select the page ranges to send to each different kind of paper size. (We have networked printers and plotters that can handle multiple page size originals.) Is my conclusion correct? Is there any way to print multiple page size pdf's? Would we have to try to customize our code to do this? I welcome any responses. Have a Happy Easter/Passover holiday. Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. Configuration Assurance Phone #: 612/514-8349 Fax #: 612/514-8674 Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Apr-1998 0:31:01-GMT,1904;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20311 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:31:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA30898; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:58:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:53:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30751; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:53:26 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Quicktime 3 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 98 01:10:36 +0100 x-sender: shoto@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Graeme Armitage To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <892252321.102160.0@shoto.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Iam a mac user having to sort a pc wich I know little about I have just installed QT3 on a laptop and the installation went fine problems with movies i have been producing evaporatred and played well this made me think that the previous version of QT was corrupt so i de installed it Now I cannot get acrobat to initialise QT is there a solution or do i have to rinstall acrobat or the older version of QT any help would be appreciateted Still deperate to speak to anyone who has had any success with MpegOpen rergards Graeme Armitage +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Apr-1998 0:34:04-GMT,5620;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20389 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:34:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA31240; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:06:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:02:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA31077; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:02:48 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E025C84@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'rdavis@intranetsol.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] problem opening fdf in exchange via OLE from vb... Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:00:17 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Roy, Quick answer - you do not have to start Acrobat Exchange first - for example you can do a PDDocOpen without starting Acrobat Exchange. If you examine our code-cuts page(s) [http://www.roundtable.com.au/ - click plugins and then code cuts in the left frame] you will see examples of IAC used to start Acrobat Exchange and open files (see the merge all files code-cut). regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Roy J. Davis [mailto:rdavis@intranetsol.com] Sent: Saturday, April 11, 1998 6:39 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] problem opening fdf in exchange via OLE from vb... ok thanks. I also have reported the bug to Adobe. One question, how do you fire off Acrobat in single user mode? Does it have to *already* be running when I make the OLE call? thanks. ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- Carl Petito wrote: > > If you get it to work, please let me know. I have the same problem and > have reported it to Adobe. > > What I am doing now is generating the fdf file, and then loading the pdf > file with OpenInWindowEx. The pdf file has a set Page Action, Page Open to > import the data from the fdf file. One problem, Exchange must be set for > Single Page viewing; otherwise the Page Open does not occur. > > Please let me know if you have a better work around. > > Excerpts of the problem report and replies follow. > > Problem: "If I use Exchange to open the fdf, the data is merged with the > pdf file and is displayed. If I use my application or vboiw, I am unable > to open the fdf file" > > Reply 1: "I was able to reproduce the same thing. I can open the PDF file, > but trying to open the FDF file produces an error. Normally, Acrobat looks > for the /F Key that points to the associated PDF file. That seems to work > just fine for Exchange, but not for VBOIW sample. I'll investigate as to > why this doesn't work and get back with you." > > Reply 2: "I have logged a bug report with Engineering to have this fixed. > The bug # is 249024. Use this bug report number in the future to reference > your > problem. It won't be fixed until the next release of the Acrobat API. I > have no date as to when it will be out. In the mean time, as a work around > you may want to try opening the PDF file, then import the form data." > > Carl Petito > > ActiveLabs Development > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy J. Davis [SMTP:rdavis@intranetsol.com] > Sent: Friday, April 10, 1998 11:10 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] problem opening fdf in exchange via OLE from vb... > > I am trying to get Exchange to open an FDF file via OLE from VB and > am getting the following error: > > There was an error oprning this document. > File does not begin with %PDF. > > This is wierd because I can open it just fine if I go to > Exchange and do a file/open. > > Can anyone out there give me any ideas??? > > thanks. > > -- > ------------------------- > Roy J. Davis > Software Engineer > IntraNet Solutions, Inc. > Eden Prairie, MN. > roy.davis@intranetsol.com > ------------------------- > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Apr-1998 7:43:39-GMT,1691;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27396 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:43:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA10587; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:23:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:18:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA10457; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:18:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199804110718.JAA08624@cinet> From: "Eduardo Valencia" To: Subject: [PDF] Acrobat search plug-in and THESAURUS Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:37:59 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The Adobe Acrobat Search plug-in includes the option of searching the indexes, and broadening the range of the word(s) searched to the synomyms. Does anyone any experience in dealing with the thesaurus part of the search plug-in? I would like to be able to edit and adapt it. Thanks in advance. Eduardo Valencia Xarelan Kulturgintza S.L. ev@europemail.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Apr-1998 8:28:57-GMT,1988;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA28036 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:28:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA11658; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:07:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:04:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA11559; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:04:11 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quicktime 3 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:48:25 +0100 Message-ID: <001701bd6520$40aa3fa0$4ff682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <892252321.102160.0@shoto.demon.co.uk> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Hi Iam a mac user having to sort a pc wich I know little > about I have > just installed QT3 on a laptop and the installation went > fine problems > with movies i have been producing evaporatred and played > well this made > me think that the previous version of QT was corrupt so i de > installed it > > Now I cannot get acrobat to initialise QT is there a solution or do i > have to rinstall acrobat or the older version of QT Apparently you do have ro reinstall that older version, it has been reported. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Apr-1998 8:09:21-GMT,1656;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18666 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:09:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA19810; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:27:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:21:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19569; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:21:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199804120721.CAA19565@everglades.binc.net> From: "Stephen Lansdown" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat search plug-in and THESAURUS Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:19:33 +1000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Eduardo Valencia wrote: >Does anyone any experience in dealing with the thesaurus part of the >search plug-in? I would like to be able to edit and adapt it. Also, can one modify the "sounds like" feature to suit special requirements? Thanks in advance. Stephen Lansdown +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Apr-1998 9:07:24-GMT,2458;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19500 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 03:07:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA21941; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 03:40:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Apr 1998 03:36:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21795; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 03:36:07 -0500 Message-ID: <000601bd65ed$994607c0$54c0a2c3@phil.modem> From: "Philippe Dachsbeck" To: Subject: [PDF] HP 5si Mopier, Adobe_PS & Acrobat Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:32:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have just installed a new HP Mopier & are unabled to print from Acrobat Exchange anymore. context: win95b / adobePS V4.2.3 driver (initially) ; plenty of RAM & disk - this PC was up to now used to print very large documents (hundreds of image + hiddent text ) to a normal HP 5M PS printer (through the Adobe Postscript driver V4.2.3) - a new HP 5si Mopier has been made available & we have installed the HP software to pilot this Mopier from the PC (containing e.g. adobeps.drv v.4.10.162). We do not have unistalled our more recent AdobePS printer driver first. Now, there is no way to print more than 2 pages to the HP Mopier: immediately after having request the printing from Acrobat, Acrobat opens a little grey dialog box saying "can not print - write error") & that is all. This problem seems only to affect Acrobat Exchange ! - Is there any incompatibilites between HP furnished driver(AdobePS 4.1) & Adobe_PS V4.2.3 or/& Acrobat V3.0.1 ? - Could we use the PPD from the HP driver kit with the latest AdobePS V4.2.3 ? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Apr-1998 14:05:51-GMT,2484;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22963 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 08:05:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA30136; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 08:49:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Apr 1998 08:46:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30036; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 08:45:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:51:44 +0100 Message-ID: <001901bd6619$2a27aa20$4ff682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <352E2432.A27E857E@discountlabels.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > Currently we place a "tiff or eps" into Quark and step-n-repeat. If a > "stroke" is needed to help avoid bad registration on our > press' then we have > to do this in a vector program (which we use Freehand and > Illustrator). > > What I mean by distortion is this: Because I am a "flexo" > print shop--I use > polymer plates--these stretch when put on press. Therefore I have to > "distort" them or reduce the size so I can get a 100% plate. > Example a 2" > dia on a 650 press would be distorted to 98.43%. After being > stretched on > press you get a true 100% label. EPS export should do this, though I can't be 100% sure colour separation will work. Make sure to export level 1 EPS. Quite Imposing will also do all of these things (assuming automatic crop marks are adequate), unless you need different scaling in the X and Y directions; and Crackerjack will also allow scaling as you print a PDF page, I believe. > > My only goal is to convert a PDF file into a usable eps/tiff. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Apr-1998 18:10:41-GMT,1555;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26172 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 12:10:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA04860; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 12:46:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Apr 1998 12:41:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04680; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 12:41:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD664A.C68DB270.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "PDF@lists. pdfzone. com (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Post-Distill Pagination Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:07:23 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello all, I know this may be a silly question, but I wonder is there a posibility to paginate a document that has already been distilled into PDF? Or to at least enter pages manually for smaller docs? Any suggestions welcome. Jernej +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Apr-1998 18:50:37-GMT,2261;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26743 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 12:50:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA06674; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:35:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:32:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06518; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:32:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Post-Distill Pagination Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 19:31:18 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01bd6641$35288fc0$4ff682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01BD664A.C68DB270.jernej@4u.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Hello all, > > I know this may be a silly question, but I wonder is there a > posibility to > paginate a document that has already been distilled into PDF? > Or to at > least enter pages manually for smaller docs? "Paginate" is a word with many meanings. Do you mean "add new pages" - use Document > Insert Pages in Exchange. Do you mean "add page numbers to existing pages" - yes, with Compose (http://www.ambia.com), Quite Imposing Plus (http://www.quite.com), probably PDFFusion (http://www.docctrl.com). Do you mean "modify the way Exchange displays page numbers" - no. Do you mean "arrange into printer's spreads" - yes, with Quite Imposing (above) or other traditional imposition tools including PressWise (http://ips.imation.com), and InPosition (http://www.dka.com). Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 13:07:31-GMT,2788;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04260 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 07:07:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07852; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 07:49:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 07:43:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07521; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 07:43:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:42:15 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199804130843_MC2-39B7-BC74@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA07518 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Paul, the next version 1.1 of pdfToolbox is going to offer 'anamorphical' scaling for EPS files gerenated from PDF pages using the pdfToolbox module pdfOutput. pdfToolbox 1.1 is due end of April and will be available for Mac and Windows 95/NT. Olaf Druemmer > >Currently we place a "tiff or eps" into Quark and step-n-repeat. If a >"stroke" is needed to help avoid bad registration on our press' then we have >to do this in a vector program (which we use Freehand and Illustrator). > >What I mean by distortion is this: Because I am a "flexo" print shop--I use >polymer plates--these stretch when put on press. Therefore I have to >"distort" them or reduce the size so I can get a 100% plate. Example a 2" >dia on a 650 press would be distorted to 98.43%. After being stretched on >press you get a true 100% label. > >My only goal is to convert a PDF file into a usable eps/tiff. > >Your comments are appreciated! >Thanks >PH ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 14:26:34-GMT,3235;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06575 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:26:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11521; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:05:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:01:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11306; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:01:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3531E3AC.77A00744@discountlabels.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:06:38 +0000 From: "Paul Harstrom" Organization: Discount Labels, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File References: <199804130843_MC2-39B7-BC74@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thank You!! PH olaf druemmer wrote: > Paul, > > the next version 1.1 of pdfToolbox is going to offer 'anamorphical' > scaling for EPS files gerenated from PDF pages using the pdfToolbox > module pdfOutput. pdfToolbox 1.1 is due end of April and will be > available for Mac and Windows 95/NT. > > Olaf Druemmer > > > > >Currently we place a "tiff or eps" into Quark and step-n-repeat. If a > >"stroke" is needed to help avoid bad registration on our press' then we have > >to do this in a vector program (which we use Freehand and Illustrator). > > > >What I mean by distortion is this: Because I am a "flexo" print shop--I use > >polymer plates--these stretch when put on press. Therefore I have to > >"distort" them or reduce the size so I can get a 100% plate. Example a 2" > >dia on a 650 press would be distorted to 98.43%. After being stretched on > >press you get a true 100% label. > > > >My only goal is to convert a PDF file into a usable eps/tiff. > > > >Your comments are appreciated! > >Thanks > >PH > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Olaf Druemmer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 > Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 > D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 14:27:01-GMT,2444;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06594 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:27:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11252; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:01:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:56:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11041; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:56:55 -0500 Message-ID: <35321A98.A9112D0B@intranetsol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:00:56 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "acrodevsup@Adobe.COM" CC: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] OLE question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 does the new "Export PS 1.2d Plug-in" have OLE support? In other words, if I install it, can I then make an OLE call to Exchange that will actually do a PS export? Here is the problem I am most desparetly trying to solve: 1) Users fill out FDF via the WWW 2) Click submit and the FDF comes to my CGI program 3) I extract the FDF data, alter the /F key to point to a local template file, and save it all to an fdf file 4) I then fire up Acrobat Exchange via OLE, telling it to open the FDF file (this doesn't work by the way, I've already reported this bug, but alas, I have a work around). This step merges the FDF with the PDF template. 5) Now I need to somehow get a postscript version of this doc. ????????????? Number five is where I get stuck. When I saw you guys had released an "export to postscript" filter, I thought maybe I could use it to accomplish step #5. If I can't, do you have any alternate solutions? Thanks. -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 14:29:07-GMT,2035;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06691 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:29:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11786; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:10:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:07:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11611; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:07:09 -0500 Message-ID: <35321BDF.1DABD621@netnet.net> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:06:23 -0500 From: "Dane S. Udenberg" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] AcroBuddies is moving... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 IMPORTANT...PLEASE NOTE! If you are an AcroBuddy or have been visiting the AcroBuddies web site, you should change your bookmark now to the following URL: http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm Karl De Abdrew at Roundtable has agreed to take over hosting duties for AcroBuddies, which will continue to provide all the same information and services it has been offering before. The colors and buttons look a little different, but you'll quickly discover the service is just as before, if a little more convenient to use! Feel free to still correspond with me on Acrobat-related things if you'd like, and to use AcroBuddies just as you always have. 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Kind regards, Dane Scott Udenberg +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 14:53:16-GMT,2306;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07480 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:53:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13224; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:37:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:33:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12973; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:33:42 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] OLE question Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:27:22 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd66e9$0679ca60$def582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <35321A98.A9112D0B@intranetsol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > does the new "Export PS 1.2d Plug-in" have OLE support? In other > words, if I install it, can I then make an OLE call to Exchange > that will actually do a PS export? > > Here is the problem I am most desparetly trying to solve: > > 1) Users fill out FDF via the WWW > 2) Click submit and the FDF comes to my CGI program > 3) I extract the FDF data, alter the /F key to point to a > local template file, and save it all to an fdf file > 4) I then fire up Acrobat Exchange via OLE, telling it to > open the FDF file (this doesn't work by the way, I've > already reported this bug, but alas, I have a work around). > This step merges the FDF with the PDF template. > 5) Now I need to somehow get a postscript version of this doc. > ????????????? How about just "print", having selected a PostScript printer driver... Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 15:06:51-GMT,2836;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07931 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13990; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:54:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:51:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13838; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:51:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199804131451.KAA07134@gw33t.fmr.com> From: "Even, Christopher" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] OLE question Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:49:47 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.13) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Just to add my two cents. For point number 4 about the opening of the FDF using OLE. That will work if you use AVDocOpen and not PDDocOpen. The only problem is that there isn't any error thrown if it fails. > -----Original Message----- > From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Monday, April 13, 1998 10:27 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] OLE question > > > > > does the new "Export PS 1.2d Plug-in" have OLE support? In other > > words, if I install it, can I then make an OLE call to Exchange > > that will actually do a PS export? > > > > Here is the problem I am most desparetly trying to solve: > > > > 1) Users fill out FDF via the WWW > > 2) Click submit and the FDF comes to my CGI program > > 3) I extract the FDF data, alter the /F key to point to a > > local template file, and save it all to an fdf file > > 4) I then fire up Acrobat Exchange via OLE, telling it to > > open the FDF file (this doesn't work by the way, I've > > already reported this bug, but alas, I have a work around). > > This step merges the FDF with the PDF template. > > 5) Now I need to somehow get a postscript version of this doc. > > ????????????? > > How about just "print", having selected a PostScript printer driver... > > Aandi > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 15:15:45-GMT,2710;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08198 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:15:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA14830; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:08:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:05:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14681; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:05:17 -0500 Message-ID: <35322AB0.3DE9AAEF@intranetsol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:09:36 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] OLE question References: <000201bd66e9$0679ca60$def582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 That is exactly what I am pursuing right now. One problem I was having with that solution was that Exchange was requesting a filename, but I set up a new printer with the port being a static file. Now I only have to handle concurrency issues with multiple cgi's running at the same time (ie. multiple form submit's) thanks. Aandi Inston wrote: > > > does the new "Export PS 1.2d Plug-in" have OLE support? In other > > words, if I install it, can I then make an OLE call to Exchange > > that will actually do a PS export? > > > > Here is the problem I am most desparetly trying to solve: > > > > 1) Users fill out FDF via the WWW > > 2) Click submit and the FDF comes to my CGI program > > 3) I extract the FDF data, alter the /F key to point to a > > local template file, and save it all to an fdf file > > 4) I then fire up Acrobat Exchange via OLE, telling it to > > open the FDF file (this doesn't work by the way, I've > > already reported this bug, but alas, I have a work around). > > This step merges the FDF with the PDF template. > > 5) Now I need to somehow get a postscript version of this doc. > > ????????????? > > How about just "print", having selected a PostScript printer driver... > > Aandi -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 15:32:13-GMT,2426;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09197 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:32:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15278; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:17:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:15:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15150; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:15:31 -0500 Message-ID: <35322E0F.E64A9A2C@lsijax.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:23:59 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] OLE question X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <35321A98.A9112D0B@intranetsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Roy, I couldn't tell by your post - which platform are you programming on and in which language. If you're on a PC, you can always use the Windows API to print to a postscript printer that has been set to 'print to file'. You can even specify the name of the file through the printer description info. The Windows API is easily used by C++ or Visual Basic. If you have another platform or language, I'm afraid I don't know the answer. Good Luck Tracie DeVoe +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Roy J. Davis wrote: > 5) Now I need to somehow get a postscript version of this doc. > ????????????? > > Number five is where I get stuck. When I saw you guys had > released > an "export to postscript" filter, I thought maybe I could use > it > to accomplish step #5. If I can't, do you have any alternate > solutions? > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 15:40:53-GMT,2114;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10108 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:40:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15673; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:24:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:22:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15527; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:22:00 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565E5.00542F1E.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:20:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Post-Distill Pagination Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Compose plug-in will add a page number across all pages of a document - is this what you mean? Jernej Zajc on 04/12/98 06:07:23 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "PDF@lists. pdfzone. com (E-mail)" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Post-Distill Pagination Hello all, I know this may be a silly question, but I wonder is there a posibility to paginate a document that has already been distilled into PDF? Or to at least enter pages manually for smaller docs? Any suggestions welcome. Jernej +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 17:01:59-GMT,3860;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12949 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:01:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19352; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:28:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:26:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19214; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:26:14 -0500 Message-ID: <35323DAA.1D1DBE3F@intranetsol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:30:34 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] OLE question References: <199804131451.KAA07134@gw33t.fmr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hmmm, I'd like to see what you're doing. I, and the Adobe engineer I am working with, are unable to make Exchange open an FDF file via OLE using AVDocOpen() or PDocOpen(). Yet I can open the same FDF file by going to the file/open menu with the Exchange gui. If you really can do it, can you email me the code you are using and a sample fdf file? Even, Christopher wrote: > > Just to add my two cents. For point number 4 about > the opening of the FDF using OLE. That will work if you > use AVDocOpen and not PDDocOpen. The only problem is that there > isn't > any error thrown if it fails. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 13, 1998 10:27 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: RE: [PDF] OLE question > > > > > > > > > does the new "Export PS 1.2d Plug-in" have OLE support? In other > > > words, if I install it, can I then make an OLE call to Exchange > > > that will actually do a PS export? > > > > > > Here is the problem I am most desparetly trying to solve: > > > > > > 1) Users fill out FDF via the WWW > > > 2) Click submit and the FDF comes to my CGI program > > > 3) I extract the FDF data, alter the /F key to point to a > > > local template file, and save it all to an fdf file > > > 4) I then fire up Acrobat Exchange via OLE, telling it to > > > open the FDF file (this doesn't work by the way, I've > > > already reported this bug, but alas, I have a work around). > > > This step merges the FDF with the PDF template. > > > 5) Now I need to somehow get a postscript version of this doc. > > > ????????????? > > > > How about just "print", having selected a PostScript printer driver... > > > > Aandi > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > > + > > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 17:37:21-GMT,4672;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14258 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA21256; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:12:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:11:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21148; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:11:23 -0500 Subject: RE: [PDF] Quicktime 3/ Mpeg help Date: Mon, 13 Apr 98 18:28:41 +0100 x-sender: shoto@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Graeme Armitage To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <892487129.2025946.0@shoto.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Subject: RE: [PDF] Quicktime 3 >Sent: 11/4/98 8:48 am >Received: 11/4/98 6:30 pm >From: Aandi Inston, quite@dial.pipex.com >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > >> Hi Iam a mac user having to sort a pc wich I know little >> about I have >> just installed QT3 on a laptop and the installation went >> fine problems >> with movies i have been producing evaporatred and played >> well this made >> me think that the previous version of QT was corrupt so i de >> installed it >> >> Now I cannot get acrobat to initialise QT is there a solution or do i >> have to rinstall acrobat or the older version of QT > >Apparently you do have ro reinstall that older version, it has been >reported. I must have missed this I have reinstalled Quicktime that came with the programme disk and quicktime is now working with acrobat the problems i had ( a trail of pixels starting in the movie and trailing of onto the pdf background has reappeared) oddly the movies play perfectly when i use the quicktime 3 movie player. I have removed the previous versions movie player to ensure version 3 is being used but the problem is persisting it must be something to do with the part of the previous version that is need to initialise quicktime through acrobat. Iam also tring to get mpegs to work I have Bought mpegopen and cannot get it to work it just crashes acrobat This could be a lack of understanding on my part I have been given some instructions which i have followed but get the same result each time I have failed to understand the logic of how this plug in works. Basic the plugin allows you to link to an mpeg file and plays on a full screen pdf you do not need to place the movie like you do in the movie link feature in acrobat creating the link is simple enough. You need two pdfs one with the link the second is just a pdf ( no instructions as to the content style of this file are given so I have made it a plain black full screen file ) There is supplied a mpegopen.ini file in which there are a few setting display size location of stop button the most important thing is you have to specifie the location of the second unspecified pdf file ie: Pdfmask=C/(name).pdf as a test the company gave me to see if the mpeg card was mci compliant was create two pdf's (one.pdf and two.pdf) one.pdf put link to mpeg and link to avi put both pdf, mpeg and avi in a folder specifie two.pdf in mpegopen.ini file close play mpeg if crash play avi if avi plays then the mpeg card is not mci compliant If avi crash check procedure Well both mpeg and avi crash with the same error message Ihave tried many different variations playing the mpeg on the second pdf but all have the same result and i believe the supplier has given up on me Can anyone see the logic of the file Pdfmask what it may be used for this may help me to see where i am going wrong Ihave got mpegs to play using Quicktime 3 on mac perfectly but cannot get the same result on a PC laptop acrobat just dose not recognise mpeg as movie format but will play the mpeg in the preview box The PC has Quicktime 3 Pro installed it also has an mpeg card i would be grateful for any help that anyone can give regards Graeme Armitage +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 18:15:38-GMT,1955;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15561 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:15:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23712; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:53:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:49:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23486; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:49:14 -0500 Message-ID: <35325F49.7E6318C6@copytime.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:54:08 -0800 From: Dawson Brenner Organization: Copy Time X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Printing Mixed Sized Documents Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 List members: My two cents worth. This is a printer and print driver issue to the best of my knowledge. There is a solution for 8.5 x 11 and 8.5 x 14 mixed PDF document and that is to use a Xerox Docutech printer. If your organization has one then lucky you. If not look in the Yellow Pages under Printers and you should be able to find one advertising there. If there is not one in your local area do a web search and there will be some company more than willing to do your printing. Due to the page orientation and finishing handler even the Docutech cannot handle a mix of 8.5 x 11 and 11 x 17. Hope this helps. Regards, Dawson Brenner +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 18:58:20-GMT,1566;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17041 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:58:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA25668; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:39:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:36:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25549; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:36:47 -0500 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565E5.0063A735.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:19:04 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Populating form fields within a PDF file Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would like to have a form field from within a PDF document populate with the information from an external text file. The external text file is a disclaimer that will appear on over 1000 PDF documents. Suggestions Welcome... I run in a Windows Environment using Word 97. And Adobe Acrobat Exchange 3.0 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 19:06:43-GMT,1737;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17446 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:06:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26620; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:58:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:55:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26371; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:55:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3532605D.17C46627@netnet.net> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:58:37 -0500 From: "Dane S. Udenberg" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Why why why won't buttons duplicate? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've shared this one with the AcroBuddies and will try here too... Here's the scenario. I have a file containing a given number of pages, say, 20. I have forms buttons set up as navigational buttons on the screen. In Exchange, I replace a few existing pages with updated versions. I check the integrated pages. Some contain buttons, some do not. All are the same size: 8.5 x 11". I really don't get this one. Help! Dane Udenberg AcroBuddies +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 19:32:02-GMT,2901;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18333 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:32:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28464; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:31:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:28:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28236; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:28:26 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:28:40 -0500 To: PDFdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDFdev] Emerge ***EXTRA*** v.03, n.11 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ============================================================ V.03, N.011 ***Emerge EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra41098.html ============================================================ The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + PDF Has Its Day in (Arkansas) Courtroom * Download the judge's ruling in dismissed Jones v. 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Albright" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] forms Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:01:11 -0700 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know of a place that has good FORM information that I can read-up on? TIA --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC) AF PDSM Program Office TO Conversion Operation (TOCO) (937) 257-3085 ext380 E-mail: albrigs@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 20:24:41-GMT,2186;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20020 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:24:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA30833; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:01:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:00:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30331; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:00:09 -0500 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565E5.00665941.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:39:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am looking for a method to populate a form field in a pdf file with text from a specified ASCII text file. The application for this is as follows: I currently have over a 100 pdf files and I want to have a form field at the end of each pdf file which will contain a textual disclaimer for the document. Each document will have the same disclaimer. I would like to have a way to have the form field on each document call a common ASCII text file using JavaScript, etc. This way if the disclaimer is changed, I will only have to update the one text file. The native format for these documents is MS Word, so the other choice is to have a common object embedded in each MS Word file and a tool for batch pdfing MS Word documents without changing existing document properties. I am thinking some form of the first approach would be preferred, since the documents will not be updated frequently. If you have any ideas or suggestions on this matter, please let me know. Thanks. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Apr-1998 21:48:59-GMT,2458;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23219 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:48:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA01823; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:27:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:26:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01751; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:25:58 -0500 Message-ID: <353283BA.DA7D344D@glyphica.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:29:30 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] forms References: <01BD66F5.654FEF40@NET PC.WPAFB.AF.MIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 FYI ... last month's issue of PurePDF covered forms and had a good article from Carl Ortleib of Adobe Systems on naming conventions in forms development. If you visit http://www.purepdf.com and go to the Archives, you'll find the entire issue. -Deidre ......................................... Glyphica http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com ......................................... Scott M. Albright wrote: > Does anyone know of a place that has good FORM information that I can read-up on? > > TIA > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC) > AF PDSM Program Office > TO Conversion Operation (TOCO) > (937) 257-3085 ext380 > E-mail: albrigs@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 0:58:48-GMT,1521;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29908 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 18:58:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA08772; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:22:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:19:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08648; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:19:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3532AB9F.66F7@starnetinc.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:19:43 -0500 From: George Hunter X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Capture 2.01 keyboard shortcuts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a shortcut for toggling normal|smallcaps|subscript|superscript? I couldn't find any documentation on it in the 2.01 reviewer on-line help. Ctrl-Shift-S (the 1.0 toggle) is the thing I miss most now that I am using 2.01. George Hunter +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 2:16:00-GMT,1648;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02023 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:15:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12218; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:51:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:48:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12002; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:48:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3533AEBA.188DC219@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:45:15 -0700 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] links Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi listers I am distilling some word files fromOffice 97 which contain URL's as typed by the authors which have of course converted into hot links via the inbuilt Word facility. I wondered was there a way to keep those hot links after distilling. I would prefer not to go back and re-link each URL in Exchange. TIA Dean Laffan Real World Productions +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 2:16:00-GMT,2254;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02024 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:15:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12426; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:57:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:55:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12338; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:55:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199804140143.UAA04347@mustang.fidnet.com> X-Sender: mueller@mail.fidnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:52:02 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randall Mueller Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File In-Reply-To: <3531E3AC.77A00744@discountlabels.com> References: <199804130843_MC2-39B7-BC74@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 05:06 AM 4/13/98 , you wrote: > >Thank You!! >PH > >olaf druemmer wrote: > >> Paul, >> >> the next version 1.1 of pdfToolbox is going to offer 'anamorphical' >> scaling for EPS files gerenated from PDF pages using the pdfToolbox >> module pdfOutput. pdfToolbox 1.1 is due end of April and will be >> available for Mac and Windows 95/NT. >> >> Olaf Druemmer >> I'd like to see more programs that "step and repeat" pdf's1 Shoot, the trapping and such will be handles by rip software..where are the programs that step and such? Quite Imposing does to somewhat, but you got one shot, if you need to have a gutter in your stepping, your over with. We have a program call ArtPro. Very expensive. But they're new release in July will have this ability. It will marry pdf. Randall mueller@fidnet.com Online Books-Webtv Talk http://whdesign.com/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 2:16:34-GMT,6096;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02052 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:16:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12219; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:51:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:49:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12117; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:49:24 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD671D.BD934620@max1-160.max1.cll.infohwy.com> From: Ron Culp To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Why why why won't buttons duplicate? Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:50:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD671D.BD934620" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD671D.BD934620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't get it either, but it happens to me as well. Even when I go to = an original page and try to duplicate the button, it does not show up on = the affected replaced page. -----Original Message----- From: Dane S. Udenberg [SMTP:dsuden@netnet.net] Sent: Monday, April 13, 1998 1:59 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Why why why won't buttons duplicate? I've shared this one with the AcroBuddies and will try here too... Here's the scenario. I have a file containing a given number of pages, say, 20. I have forms buttons set up as navigational buttons on the screen. In Exchange, I replace a few existing pages with updated versions. I check the integrated pages. Some contain buttons, some do not. All are the same size: 8.5 x 11". I really don't get this one. Help! 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greetings from sunny Belize! I've recently subscribed and thought it timely to introduce myself, sooo... Name: Paul Stevenson Title: Technical Director, Special F-X (Sign & Design) Ltd. Major area of responsibility: Technical aspects of job evaluation, production and quality control. Evaluation and purchasing of, and training on, new equipment & software. Training, health & safety. Digital imaging interests: Currently using Win95-based PageMaker, Photoshop, CorelDraw. Interested to witness the progression of digital imaging, from a screenprinter/signmaker's point of view. Digital ambitions: Introducing digital imaging to Belize! Would like to learn more about publishing to CD (it saves paper!). Other interests: Photography, Lepidoptera, Guitar, Glass engraving & decorating, Herbal remedies, the beauty in tropical hardwoods, patterns & colour in nature, Maya. Contact info: Tel: ++501.9.23548 Fax: ++501.9.24029 e-mail: specialfx@btl.net 89deg 05min W of Greenwich, 17deg 10min N of the Equator Originally from a place called ‘JusnorfaLondon’; now enjoying a sub-tropical climate where people are important and they smile a lot. Bye from sunny San Ignacio and I look forward to sharing ideas & experience with you. Paul ~:-D +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 2:38:59-GMT,2420;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02690 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA13343; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:26:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:24:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13255; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:24:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3532CA62.4A3@btl.net> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:30:58 -0600 From: Paul Stevenson Organization: Special F-X X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] CD-Publishing. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Friends, Can anyone please offer me some advice about publishing a ‘How-to’ book and then saving it to CD, so that it could be studied/researched by persons interested in learning the content. It is very very difficult to glean knowledge in Belize; it’s not like I can just ‘pop down the road’ and get a book about it or ask the local publisher (there’s only one in Belize!). So sorry if this takes up your disk-space, but I’d appreciate your help, advice, or www sites where I could start to look? Various people I’ve talked to via e-mail recommend composing the document in a word-processor (done that), place it in PageMaker (complete with illustrations) and then convert the document to a PDF. However, the version of PageMaker (6.0) I run under Win95 doesn’t allow this, for some reason. So, should I upgrade to PM6.5, or version 3.0 (from the current 2.1) of distiller? What would you advise? Or should the publication be created in HTML and put that on the CD; making it easier to cross-reference via highlighted links, like a web-page? Your help or advice would be appreciated. TIA and bye from sunny San Ignacio, Paul ~:-D +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 2:48:13-GMT,1931;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02895 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:48:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA13733; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:35:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:32:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13582; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:32:40 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:30:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bd674d$773756a0$33f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199804140143.UAA04347@mustang.fidnet.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > I'd like to see more programs that "step and repeat" pdf's1 Shoot, the > trapping and such will be handles by rip software..where are > the programs > that step and such? Quite Imposing does to somewhat, but you > got one shot, > if you need to have a gutter in your stepping, your over > with. Quite Imposing (Plus) should allow gutters of fixed or variable size between each stepped page, space around the edge, and crop marks. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 2:55:48-GMT,1836;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03105 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:55:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA14130; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:46:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:45:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14081; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:45:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] CD-Publishing. Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:39:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bd674f$3d3988e0$33f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3532CA62.4A3@btl.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Various people I’ve talked to via e-mail recommend composing the > document in a word-processor (done that), place it in PageMaker > (complete with illustrations) and then convert the document to a PDF. > > However, the version of PageMaker (6.0) I run under Win95 > doesn’t allow > this, for some reason. Can you be more specific about what happens when you use Export Adobe PDF? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 7:53:01-GMT,3517;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27963 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 01:53:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA22348; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:29:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:25:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA22230; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:25:17 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:27:49 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <07293006200721@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I am new to this list and subscribed in order to get some help with a PDF. I am publishing a 250 page genealogy book with text and photos on paper and CD-ROM. The project is being done on a PC with Photoshop 4.0 and PageMaker 6.5. From PageMaker via the included Distiller, I created a PDF file, wrote it to CD-ROM, tested it on a PC, and mailed it to a Mac site for testing. It worked on the first attempt. I find this to be a rather impressive statement about Adobe tools. Some recipients of the CD-ROM version will need to install Adobe Acrobat Reader. If their platform is PC or Mac, I would like them be able to install it from the CD-ROM. I loaded the appropriate files for PC installation onto the CD-ROM and tested the installation. I checked the Adobe web site and I think I understand the Adobe requirements. I do not have a Mac nor Mac experience so I need some technical advice. The Adobe web site files for Mac are available in either of two compressed formats with a URL for a free decompression utility. Should I supply Adobe Acrobat Reader on the CD-ROM in compressed or uncompressed form? If compressed, which format, BIN or HQX? If uncompressed, is there any way for me to decompressed them, short of using a Mac? If compressed, I presume I need to supply the Stuffit expansion utility. However, if every Mac standardly has such software then I do not. I need recommendations in this area. If I download the Mac files from the Adobe web site, will there be any special handling or other considerations because I am not using a Mac? For example, are there any underlying assumptions about file formats that will be violated by passing these files through a PC file system on their way to the CD-ROM? Perhaps these are stupid questions but without Mac experience, I am in the dark. I have a distant Mac site that I can use to test a CD-ROM, but that resource is slow and limited. I need enough knowledge to put together whatever is necessary to install Acrobat Reader on the Mac with a reasonable shot at success. I would appreciate some guidance from a kind soul who has some experience to share. Thanks. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 8:10:50-GMT,1844;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00375 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:10:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA23404; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:04:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:02:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23330; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:02:07 -0500 Message-ID: <35330CBB.7AA3@document-solutions.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:14:03 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Invert Property PDFmark? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Folks: I Searched through the PDFmark Reference looking for a way to add a Highlight Property of, say, "inset" to a Link in postscript. and... no dice. The Manual refers to this operator with respect to fields -- but NOT links. Can anyone shed light on this? Or am I just a benighted would-be PS hacker? -- Regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Ave., Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 (510) 986-0250 -- Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com -- www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 8:11:57-GMT,2394;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00426 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:11:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA22891; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:46:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:43:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA22803; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:43:58 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: [PDF] Creating index links in PDF files Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:46:47 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <07482382800732@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I am new to this list and subscribed in order to get some help with a PDF. I am publishing a 250 page genealogy book with text and photos on paper and CD-ROM. The project is being done on a PC with Photoshop 4.0 and PageMaker 6.5. From PageMaker via the included Distiller, I created a PDF file, wrote it to CD-ROM, tested it on a PC, and mailed it to a Mac site for testing. It worked on the first attempt. I find this to be a rather impressive statement about Adobe tools. It would be very nice if the active references in the index or links in the index had better resolution than just to "somewhere on page 76". Ideally, it would work more like a search and find command that has located the desired information and provided a highlight of some kind. Can this be readily accomplished and with what tools? Since my requirements for this are soft and the index is about 20 pages long, I am especially interested in solutions that do not require a lot of manual labor. Thank you for your consideration of this problem. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 9:36:00-GMT,4650;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02267 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:35:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA25170; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:15:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:12:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25061; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:12:07 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:55:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd6785$45744140$0cf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <07293006200721@acmenet.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I am new to this list and subscribed in order to get some > help with a PDF. > I am publishing a 250 page genealogy book with text and > photos on paper and > CD-ROM. The project is being done on a PC with Photoshop 4.0 > and PageMaker > 6.5. From PageMaker via the included Distiller, I created a > PDF file, wrote > it to CD-ROM, tested it on a PC, and mailed it to a Mac site > for testing. > It worked on the first attempt. I find this to be a rather impressive > statement about Adobe tools. It doesn't always work, but when it doesn't it is because mail programs are not compatible. > > Some recipients of the CD-ROM version will need to install > Adobe Acrobat > Reader. If their platform is PC or Mac, I would like them be able to > install it from the CD-ROM. I loaded the appropriate files for PC > installation onto the CD-ROM and tested the installation. I > checked the > Adobe web site and I think I understand the Adobe > requirements. I do not > have a Mac nor Mac experience so I need some technical > advice. The Adobe > web site files for Mac are available in either of two > compressed formats > with a URL for a free decompression utility. Should I supply > Adobe Acrobat > Reader on the CD-ROM in compressed or uncompressed form? If > compressed, > which format, BIN or HQX? If uncompressed, is there any way for me to > decompressed them, short of using a Mac? If compressed, I > presume I need to > supply the Stuffit expansion utility. However, if every Mac > standardly has > such software then I do not. I need recommendations in this area. If I > download the Mac files from the Adobe web site, will there be > any special > handling or other considerations because I am not using a > Mac? For example, > are there any underlying assumptions about file formats that will be > violated by passing these files through a PC file system on > their way to > the CD-ROM? Perhaps these are stupid questions but without > Mac experience, > I am in the dark. This area is one which lays in wait to trap the unwary (or quite a few of the wary). In essence (simplified): 1. The Macintosh installer is a Macintosh executable. 2. Windows can only see, and write, part of a Macintosh executable - they have two parts. If you lose the other part, the installer is useless. 3. You can only have a Macintosh executable that works on a Macintosh format CDROM. 4. Macintosh format CDROMs cannot be read on Windows. 5. There is such a thing as a hybrid CDROM, which contains a CDROM image in Mac format visible from the Mac, and in goodnessknowswhat format, visible from Windows. 6. Creating such hybrid CDROMs is best done from a Mac, though I've heard some windows software can do it; extensive testing on a Mac is indicated. A simpler alternative if this sounds painful is to buy copies of the Acrobat Reader CDROM. I understand it can be as little as $1.50 a copy in quantities of 100+. Adobe have taken care of the hybrid issues (as well as including both Windows versions and other ones someone might want like Unix or OS/2). The goodies on this CDROM also make it a welcome surprise for the recipient. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 9:39:45-GMT,3557;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02345 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:39:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA25385; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:24:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:22:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25312; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:22:15 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980414091733.007b2850@re.nettuno.it> X-Sender: reg001d1@re.nettuno.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:17:33 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: LinkService Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File In-Reply-To: <352DF983.F931BC21@discountlabels.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19980410150953.007d6280@re.nettuno.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 yes, crackerjack can print a file on disk in PostScript or EPS with or without preview. Try the Crackerjack demo, download it from Lantana Web page; www.lantarips.com. Vainer At 10.50 10/04/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Thanks for your reply. If I can get it into a EPS then I can perform the >step-n-repeat in either Illustrator, Freehand or Quark. Will Crackerjack >separate into a formatt acceptable to these programs for manipulation??? > >Thanks >Paul H > >LinkService wrote: > >> Dear Paul, >> >> to separate a PDF file you can use CRACKERJACK an Acrobat Exchange Plug-in >> from Lantana (www.lantanarips.com) but it cannot do a Step-n-repeat function. >> >> Regards, >> >> Vainer Gilioli >> LinkService Srl >> >> At 12.02 09/04/98 +0000, you wrote: >> > >> >I am new to the "PDF" world and I need some help. My Question is: "how >> >easy is it (and how do you do it) to color separate a PDF File? >> > >> >I need to be able to Step-n-Repeat the job and distort the file for >> >printing on a press. >> > >> >I currently am set-up to receive any macintosh application file as well >> >as the standard PC files. >> > >> >Thanks >> >Paul H >> > >> >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >> >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > >> > >> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 10:12:39-GMT,1300;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02997 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:12:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA26211; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:58:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:56:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26130; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:56:05 -0500 From: HEP2 Message-ID: <81397289.353332b3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 05:56:01 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] PDF Digest Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 How do I set PDF so that I receive it in digest form. Thanksin advance. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 11:36:51-GMT,2531;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04548 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 05:36:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA28296; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:19:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:16:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28185; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:16:54 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD67A7.9FCF6350.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Post-Distill Pagination Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:41:49 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Sunday, April 12, 1998 8:31 PM, Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] wrote: > > "Paginate" is a word with many meanings. > > Do you mean "add new pages" - use Document > Insert Pages in Exchange. > > Do you mean "add page numbers to existing pages" - yes, with Compose > (http://www.ambia.com), Quite Imposing Plus (http://www.quite.com), > probably PDFFusion (http://www.docctrl.com). > > Do you mean "modify the way Exchange displays page numbers" - no. > > Do you mean "arrange into printer's spreads" - yes, with Quite Imposing > (above) > or other traditional imposition tools including PressWise > (http://ips.imation.com), > and InPosition (http://www.dka.com). > > Aandi I meant adding page numbers to pages. I've heard for this packages, but didn't know they were so powerful. Thanks for your help. Jernej ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Monday, April 13, 1998 5:20 PM, sgililland@nexstar.com [SMTP:sgililland@nexstar.com] wrote: > > Compose plug-in will add a page number across all pages of a document - is > this what you mean? Yes. I checked Compose in Adobe.mag article. Genuinely interesting stuff. Thanx for your help, Jernej +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 11:36:51-GMT,2468;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04549 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 05:36:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA28295; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:19:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:16:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28126; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:16:22 -0500 Message-Id: X-Sender: mueller@mail.fidnet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:11:32 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randall Mueller Subject: RE: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File In-Reply-To: <000501bd674d$773756a0$33f682c1@gateway> References: <199804140143.UAA04347@mustang.fidnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 09:30 PM 4/13/98 , you wrote: > >Quite Imposing (Plus) should allow gutters of fixed or variable size >between each stepped page, space around the edge, and crop marks. > >Aandi Aandi, If it does, I can't find it? You can't start on a predefined sheet, step once, they use gutter and step again on that same sheet in such a manor that it is efficient and as speedy say as using quark or such. We use a business card die that has 30 on. it has a gutter in the middle of 1/4in, then continues with 3.5 across. Strange,the other thing I noticed is that for some reason, on another die with 24 on, it would not, placing 4 across, 5 down, complete this, using 3.5 x 2? Now, using measurements as you travel across would most likely work, but not well. Most guide sheets used for stepping are setup to use the measurements of the object being stepped; business card, odd shapes, etc., using Quite, it just can do this with the needed precision for production Randall mueller@fidnet.com Online Books-Webtv Talk http://whdesign.com/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 11:36:54-GMT,2348;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04557 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 05:36:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA28297; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:19:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:16:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28146; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:16:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199804141104.GAA26376@mustang.fidnet.com> X-Sender: mueller@mail.fidnet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:13:18 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randall Mueller Subject: RE: [PDF] Color Separating A PDF File Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 09:30 PM 4/13/98 , you wrote: > >Quite Imposing (Plus) should allow gutters of fixed or variable size >between each stepped page, space around the edge, and crop marks. > >Aandi And, If it does, I can't find it? You can't start on a predefined sheet, step once, they use gutter and step again on that same sheet in such a manor that it is efficient and as speedy say as using quark or such. We use a business card die that has 30 on. it has a gutter in the middle of 1/4in, then continues with 3.5 across. Strange,the other thing I noticed is that for some reason, on another die with 24 on, it would not, placing 4 across, 5 down, complete this, using 3.5 x 2? Now, using measurements as you travel across would most likely work, but not well. Most guide sheets used for stepping are setup to use the measurements of the object being stepped; business card, odd shapes, etc., using Quite, it just can do this with the needed precision for production Randall mueller@fidnet.com Online Books-Webtv Talk http://whdesign.com/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 12:26:54-GMT,5987;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05470 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:26:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA29653; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:04:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:02:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29549; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:02:23 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD677C.3CACB8C0@NET PC.WPAFB.AF.MIL> From: "Scott M. Albright" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] forms Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:46:14 -0700 X-MS-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks a ton! ----------------- FYI ... last month's issue of PurePDF covered forms and had a good article from Carl Ortleib of Adobe Systems on naming conventions in forms development. If you visit http://www.purepdf.com and go to the Archives, you'll find the entire issue. -Deidre ........................................ Glyphica http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com ........................................ Scott M. Albright wrote: > Does anyone know of a place that has good FORM information that I can read-up on? > > TIA > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Scott M. 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Cc: Acrobat Posts , PDF Posts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can anyone point me to an HTML 3.2 reference, please? It needs to have a table of Contents, an Index, and cross-references between related tags. That way I can use it as on-line help or print out a book with page numbers, running heads, etc. So an Acrobat PDF file would fill the bill. There are a number of Web sites that document HTML 3.2 tags but they are all collections of Web pages. I need a compact guide that gives the usage of each tag and compatibility with various versions of Navigator and Internet Explorer. Regards, Hedley ====================================================================== Hedley Finger User documentation and publishing consultant Adobe(R) Certified Expert, FrameMaker 5.5 Hand Holding Projects Pty Ltd ACN 007 418 153 28 Regent Street Burwood VIC 3125 Australia *** NOTE CHANGED NUMBERS *** Tel* +61 3 9809 1229 Fax* +61 3 9809 1326 Mobile* +61 412 461 558 E-mail hfinger@handholding.com.au * Replace `+61 ' with `0' (zero) when dialling nationally. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 13:21:54-GMT,1909;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06848 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:21:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA31689; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:58:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:56:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31538; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:56:36 -0500 From: Gustav.Ohman@sifo.se Message-ID: <35335CD9.50C3B744@sifo.se> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:55:54 +0200 Organization: Sifo Research & Consulting AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Bitmaps in charts not rendered in PDF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have an annoying problem with PDF-writer and/or Distiller I often use PDF to distribute statistical charts by mail to our customers. Since they dont't always have color printers, I like to use bitmap filling in the bar-charts. Now, these bitmaps are not rendered in the PDF. Instead I get a gray-scale (or whatever color I use). This problem seems to occur regardless of the source software and printer settings. I use Exchange 3.0 on a Win 95 machine Does anyone else recognize this and do you know if it is a PDF or a PS problem? Thanks /Gustav Öhman +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 13:22:47-GMT,1603;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06910 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:22:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA32163; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:07:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:06:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA32069; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:06:17 -0500 Message-ID: <35335F1A.77843A18@netnet.net> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:05:30 -0500 From: "Dane S. Udenberg" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Why why why won't buttons duplicate? References: <01BD671D.BD934620@max1-160.max1.cll.infohwy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I don't get it either, but it happens to me as well. Even when I go to an original page and try to duplicate the button, it does not show up on the affected replaced page. Exactly. Drives me CRAZY!!! Chalk another one up for the Acrobat bugs list. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 13:25:53-GMT,2572;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06980 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:25:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA32188; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:07:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:06:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA32118; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:06:55 -0500 Message-ID: <35335F70.AEA06C70@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:06:56 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Invert Property PDFmark? References: <35330CBB.7AA3@document-solutions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Duff Johnson wrote: > > I Searched through the PDFmark Reference looking for a way to add a > Highlight Property of, say, "inset" to a Link in postscript. > > and... no dice. The Manual refers to this operator with respect to > fields -- but NOT links. > > Can anyone shed light on this? Or am I just a benighted would-be PS > hacker? You gotta mix and match, and hack a little more. Here's a fairly fun and standard trick. * Using Exchange, create a link with an inset highlight in an otherwise completely empty document. * Open that PDF in a powerful text editor. Look for /Rect to find your link. Then snoop around inside the <<...>> construct where the /Rect falls. Hey, look there, I see "/H /P". Whatever could that mean... (H)ighlight type is (P)ush, maybe? * Voila, [ /Rect [ 0 0 50 50 ] /Border [ 0 0 1 ] /H /P /Page /Next /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark This relies a little on luck, namely that inserting the /H /P key-value pair in the PDF object is allowed and supported in the same syntax by pdfmark. There are other key-value pairs that cannot be inserted by pdfmark, but instead must be inserted with the /PUT operator. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 13:25:56-GMT,2465;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06984 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:25:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA31917; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:02:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:01:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31830; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:01:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:50:16 +1100 Message-Id: From: Hedley Finger Subject: [PDF] HTML 3.2 Reference in PDF File? Old-To: PageMIll Talk Cc: Acrobat Posts , PDF Posts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-URL: http://www.blueworld.com/lists/ X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can anyone point me to an HTML 3.2 reference, please? It needs to have a table of Contents, an Index, and cross-references between related tags. That way I can use it as on-line help or print out a book with page numbers, running heads, etc. So an Acrobat PDF file would fill the bill. There are a number of Web sites that document HTML 3.2 tags but they are all collections of Web pages. I need a compact guide that gives the usage of each tag and compatibility with various versions of Navigator and Internet Explorer. Regards, Hedley ====================================================================== Hedley Finger User documentation and publishing consultant Adobe(R) Certified Expert, FrameMaker 5.5 Hand Holding Projects Pty Ltd ACN 007 418 153 28 Regent Street Burwood VIC 3125 Australia *** NOTE CHANGED NUMBERS *** Tel* +61 3 9809 1229 Fax* +61 3 9809 1326 Mobile* +61 412 461 558 E-mail hfinger@handholding.com.au * Replace `+61 ' with `0' (zero) when dialling nationally. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 13:59:53-GMT,2432;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07927 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:59:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA00732; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:31:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:29:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00639; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:29:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:50:16 +1100 Message-Id: From: Hedley Finger Subject: [PDF] HTML 3.2 Reference in PDF File? Old-To: PageMIll Talk Cc: Acrobat Posts , PDF Posts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-URL: http://www.blueworld.com/lists/ X-Loop: karlin@rsch.com To: nkarlin@panix.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can anyone point me to an HTML 3.2 reference, please? It needs to have a table of Contents, an Index, and cross-references between related tags. That way I can use it as on-line help or print out a book with page numbers, running heads, etc. So an Acrobat PDF file would fill the bill. There are a number of Web sites that document HTML 3.2 tags but they are all collections of Web pages. I need a compact guide that gives the usage of each tag and compatibility with various versions of Navigator and Internet Explorer. Regards, Hedley ====================================================================== Hedley Finger User documentation and publishing consultant Adobe(R) Certified Expert, FrameMaker 5.5 Hand Holding Projects Pty Ltd ACN 007 418 153 28 Regent Street Burwood VIC 3125 Australia *** NOTE CHANGED NUMBERS *** Tel* +61 3 9809 1229 Fax* +61 3 9809 1326 Mobile* +61 412 461 558 E-mail hfinger@handholding.com.au * Replace `+61 ' with `0' (zero) when dialling nationally. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 14:36:22-GMT,2013;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09168 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:36:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA02618; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:08:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:04:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02406; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:04:30 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Why why why won't buttons duplicate? Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:02:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bd67ae$1bec8de0$0cf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <35335F1A.77843A18@netnet.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > > I don't get it either, but it happens to me as well. Even > when I go to an original page and try to duplicate the > button, it does not show up on the affected replaced page. > > Exactly. Drives me CRAZY!!! Chalk another one up for the > Acrobat bugs list. Buttons will duplicate to the same (x,y) co-ordinate relative to the original page origin. This might not be where you expect, and it might be off screen, if cropping or rotating has taken place. Zooming out MIGHT show you a field where you don't expect it. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 14:44:44-GMT,1810;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09459 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:44:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03739; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:30:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:28:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03599; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:28:35 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565E6.004F1C14.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:27:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] CD-Publishing. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Paul: Creating a pdf is possible from Pagemaker 6.0. On the CD or disks is a lite version of Acrobat distiller 2.0. It and a postscript printer driver must be installed after you install Pagemaker before you can create a PDF. Rick Bishop >>>>>Paul wrote: Various people I?ve talked to via e-mail recommend composing the document in a word-processor (done that), place it in PageMaker (complete with illustrations) and then convert the document to a PDF. However, the version of PageMaker (6.0) I run under Win95 doesn?t allow this, for some reason. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 15:15:00-GMT,1951;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11035 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:14:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05384; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:59:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:56:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05270; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:56:37 -0500 Message-ID: <35337AC8.35E6@btl.net> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:03:36 -0600 From: Paul Stevenson Organization: Special F-X X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] CD-Publishing. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Our friend Aandi Inston asked, > Can you be more specific about what happens when you > use Export Adobe PDF? Certainly Aandi; During the sequence, PageMaker asks me to specify a postscript printer. I don't use a postscript printer, so I don't have a PS driver installed. I have tried to install one from the PM6 programme CD, but to no effect. BTW, sincere thanks to those of you that have mailed me off-list with your ideas, I am very grateful for that. It seems the best way to go is upgrading to Acrobat 3.* and apparently that's US$95. I'm told that *that* version of Acrobat should do the trick. Bye from sunny San Ignacio, Paul ~:-D Inside leg: 31" +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 15:49:10-GMT,3074;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12762 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:49:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07194; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:32:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:29:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07029; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:29:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3533814F.E71@document-solutions.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:31:27 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Invert Property PDFmark? References: <35330CBB.7AA3@document-solutions.com> <35335F70.AEA06C70@beacon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory: Thanks for the tip. Your little trick does not APPEAR to be supported in the PDFMark Ref.... but I'm game! Thanks again.... Cory Snavely wrote: > > Duff Johnson wrote: > > > > I Searched through the PDFmark Reference looking for a way to add a > > Highlight Property of, say, "inset" to a Link in postscript. > > > > and... no dice. The Manual refers to this operator with respect to > > fields -- but NOT links. > > > > Can anyone shed light on this? Or am I just a benighted would-be PS > > hacker? > > You gotta mix and match, and hack a little more. Here's a fairly fun and > standard trick. > > * Using Exchange, create a link with an inset highlight in an otherwise > completely empty document. > * Open that PDF in a powerful text editor. Look for /Rect to find your > link. Then snoop around inside the <<...>> construct where the /Rect > falls. Hey, look there, I see "/H /P". Whatever could that mean... > (H)ighlight type is (P)ush, maybe? > * Voila, > > [ /Rect [ 0 0 50 50 ] > /Border [ 0 0 1 ] > /H /P > /Page /Next > /Subtype /Link > /ANN > pdfmark > > This relies a little on luck, namely that inserting the /H /P key-value pair in > the PDF object is allowed and supported in the same syntax by pdfmark. There > are other key-value pairs that cannot be inserted by pdfmark, but instead must > be inserted with the /PUT operator. > > Cory Snavely > The Beacon Group -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 15:59:55-GMT,2394;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13141 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:59:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07556; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:40:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:39:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07496; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:39:42 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:38:19 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] HTML 3.2 Reference in PDF File? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If HTML4 is of interest, grab this PDF file ---> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40-971218/html40.pdf If you want only HTML3.2, check these: http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Internet/WWW/HTMLPrimerPDF.pdf http://info.med.yale.edu/caim/manual/misc/downloading.html#Acrobat Also, you should search some of the Mac software sites for a couple handy DocMaker files -- "HTML Tricks" and "HTML-Wilbur." Both are handy files for quick reference. A small sgareware app that integrates nicely with some web authoring tools is called "Quicktags." rgds ~ Kurt === >Can anyone point me to an HTML 3.2 reference, please? It needs to have a >table of Contents, an Index, and cross-references between related tags. >That way I can use it as on-line help or print out a book with page >numbers, running heads, etc. So an Acrobat PDF file would fill the bill. > >There are a number of Web sites that document HTML 3.2 tags but they are >all collections of Web pages. I need a compact guide that gives the usage >of each tag and compatibility with various versions of Navigator and >Internet Explorer. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 16:59:44-GMT,1855;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15593 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:59:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11421; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:49:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:45:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11201; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:45:39 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:44:16 -0500 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" From: "Whiteley, Kenneth M." Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Digest Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just did this. 1. Go to http://www.emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html#pdf 2. Unsubscribe from PDF - Standard 3. Subscribe to PDF - Digest 4. Follow e-mail instructions received. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Ken Whiteley (kmwhiteley@tva.gov) Electronic Media Technology TVA Information Services Business Solutions -----Original Message----- From: HEP2 [mailto:HEP2@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 5:56 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Digest How do I set PDF so that I receive it in digest form. Thanksin advance. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 16:35:55-GMT,2838;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14592 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:35:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09445; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:09:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:07:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09126; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:07:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980414090953.007f6e50@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:09:53 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Invert Property PDFmark? In-Reply-To: <35330CBB.7AA3@document-solutions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Duff, One of the quickest ways I've learned how to use PDFMARKs is to distill a blank page as ASCII, do what I want to do in Exchange, then open the PDF in Word and see how Exchange coded it. Using this method I've found plenty of things that work, but are not documented in either the PDFMARK Reference Manual or the PDF Reference Manual (the big one). --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- At 12:14 AM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Folks: > >I Searched through the PDFmark Reference looking for a way to add a >Highlight Property of, say, "inset" to a Link in postscript. > >and... no dice. The Manual refers to this operator with respect to >fields -- but NOT links. > >Can anyone shed light on this? Or am I just a benighted would-be PS >hacker? > >-- > >Regards, > >Duff Johnson >President, Document Solutions, Inc. >1611 Telegraph Ave., Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 >(510) 986-0250 -- Fax: (510) 986-0636 >duffj@document-solutions.com -- www.document-solutions.com > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 16:36:48-GMT,3523;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14609 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:36:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09782; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:16:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:13:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09643; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:13:55 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980414091642.007f1d50@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:16:42 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Invert Property PDFmark? In-Reply-To: <35335F70.AEA06C70@beacon.com> References: <35330CBB.7AA3@document-solutions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory and Duff, I sent out an earlier reply on how I find out how to hack, but if you look at page 48 of the pdfmark Reference manual, the last example, you see /H /P %Push down appearance on highlight. I've found a lot of good stuff in the Widget annotation examples that begin on page 45. --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- At 09:06 AM 4/14/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Duff Johnson wrote: >> >> I Searched through the PDFmark Reference looking for a way to add a >> Highlight Property of, say, "inset" to a Link in postscript. >> >> and... no dice. The Manual refers to this operator with respect to >> fields -- but NOT links. >> >> Can anyone shed light on this? Or am I just a benighted would-be PS >> hacker? > >You gotta mix and match, and hack a little more. Here's a fairly fun and >standard trick. > >* Using Exchange, create a link with an inset highlight in an otherwise > completely empty document. >* Open that PDF in a powerful text editor. Look for /Rect to find your > link. Then snoop around inside the <<...>> construct where the /Rect > falls. Hey, look there, I see "/H /P". Whatever could that mean... > (H)ighlight type is (P)ush, maybe? >* Voila, > > [ /Rect [ 0 0 50 50 ] > /Border [ 0 0 1 ] > /H /P > /Page /Next > /Subtype /Link > /ANN > pdfmark > >This relies a little on luck, namely that inserting the /H /P key-value pair in >the PDF object is allowed and supported in the same syntax by pdfmark. There >are other key-value pairs that cannot be inserted by pdfmark, but instead must >be inserted with the /PUT operator. > >Cory Snavely >The Beacon Group >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 20:42:14-GMT,2137;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23809 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:42:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA20741; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:13:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:07:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20420; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:07:10 -0500 From: kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com Message-Id: <9804148925.AA892582992@deltahealth.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 98 15:43:13 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] viewing PDF files with bitmap graphics in Acrobat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello. We have a large number of screen capture bitmaps [4-bit color depth (16 color)] that are placed in manuals in Pagemaker. While working on these manuals at their "Actual Size," the images look perfect. We need to create PDF files from these Pagemaker files. When we look at these PDFs in Acrobat 3.01 the screen shots always look distorted, even if we view them at 100%. We have tried turning off any kind of compression for the images, but the results are the same. When we print from Acrobat, the output is fine. It is just a matter of not being able to view the images in Acrobat without them looking very bad. Is there something we are doing wrong, or is this just an intrinsic problem with PDF files or the Acrobat reader? Thank you. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 20:42:14-GMT,2132;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23810 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:42:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA20744; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:13:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:10:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20583; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:10:27 -0500 From: WBren@gre-ins.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:02:45 -0400 Message-ID: <533C30D0.@gre-ins.com> Subject: [PDF] Differences in Forms function between IE and Netscape Nav To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've placed a sample PDF form out on the internet as part of a demonstration/trial of the Haut/Digidox-Adobe Electronic forms partnership. One of the problems I am seeing is that form fields that contain code that reset other fields work within in the Netscape Navigator but Not Microsoft's Internet Explorer. I am using NN ver 3.01 and IE ver 3.02. Reader works as a plug-in in both, and when I loaded Acrobat Exchange as a plug-in the result were the same ie failure in IE. It is possible that certain versions of IE will work and other wont? Anyone know what is responsible for the difference (beside Gates and his minions...), and what options our users would have (assuming most will have IE)? Thanks, Wes Bren GRE Insurance Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 21:28:12-GMT,2679;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25702 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:28:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23760; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:10:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:07:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23540; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:07:37 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565E6.0071485A.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:07:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] viewing PDF files with bitmap graphics in Acrobat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Kelly: I feel that your problem originates with your statement "turned off compression" This forces the bitmap to display a screen image slightly different from the resolution it was created at. 72 dpi bmp screen capture will display fine only at 100% IN A PAINT PROGRAM or in a publishing program which gets its image from the originator. 100% in distiller isn't quite exactly 100%. Being just a little off means it must dither the image to display it. 90 and 50 look really terrible. You will find that jpgs are generally more suitable for display on various systems and at differing magnifications. Try this: Open the bmp in photoshop or paintshop pro or what have you; Switch mode to RGB; Change resolution to 140-200 dpi while maintaining apparent size; anti-aliasing on (file size will get bigger); Change mode to 8 bit color; Save As, Jpeg high Set your Distiller or PdfWriter job options to downsample to Jpeg med-high at 110-140 dpi or experiment with lowering the settings until you get the smallest files possible `without sacrificing image display quality at 250% in the pdf. If your images contain large areas of the same color, try making a GIF or better yet, create the image in Illustrator, export to eps, wmf, or tiff if it contains gradients. If you must turn off compression completely, use only 180+dpi bitmaps or tiffs. Rick Bishop PRP Media Houston +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Apr-1998 22:15:39-GMT,6985;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27698 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:15:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA25576; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:52:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:49:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25440; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:49:50 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD683B.DC127C00@stpfl4-14.gate.net> From: Chris Lane To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] was CD-Publishing now PS Printing Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 06:58:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD683B.DC2AE600" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD683B.DC2AE600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll use this opportunity to mention that the Adobe website = http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/ has the Adobe = Postscript driver available for downloading along with a PPD for the = Distiller! I've been using it for awhile and not had any problems and = the PDF's generated seem to display faster than with other PS drivers. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stevenson [SMTP:specialfx@btl.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 11:04 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] CD-Publishing. Our friend Aandi Inston asked, > Can you be more specific about what happens when you > use Export Adobe PDF? Certainly Aandi; During the sequence, PageMaker asks me to specify a postscript printer. I don't use a postscript printer, so I don't have a PS driver installed. I have tried to install one from the PM6 programme CD, but to no effect. BTW, sincere thanks to those of you that have mailed me off-list with your ideas, I am very grateful for that. It seems the best way to go is upgrading to Acrobat 3.* and apparently that's US$95. I'm told that *that* version of Acrobat should do the trick. 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Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:46:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27596; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:41:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:39:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27495; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:39:28 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Quark -> AI dashed stroke Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:40:25 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1319550472-11554950@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just ran accross something interesting, and I'm not sure which is the best option. If you start with a dashed frame in Quark layout, then print to disk, distill and open the PDF in Mac AI 7.0.1, that dashed frame is a 36 ppi 1 bit pixel image (colorized); actually there's eight of them: one for each corner and one for each side. Whereas if you simply do a save page as eps out of Quark and open the resulting eps with AI, the dashed frame becomes multiple vector objects, a bunch of tiny 2 pt. squares. It seems to me that the vector objects would be more appealing, especially since the dashes made from pixel images are only 36 ppi. What do you think (the collective you)? Also, does anyone know how to make those good looking dashed corners directly in AI? You know how it looks in Quark with the dash object starting and ending in each corner. In other words, no gaps near the corners. TIA Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 2:26:08-GMT,2932;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05425 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:26:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA01099; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:26:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:22:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00920; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:22:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3534FA4F.36CC296B@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:20:00 -0700 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <000201bd6785$45744140$0cf582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > SNIP > 3. You can only have a Macintosh executable that works on a Macintosh > format CDROM. > 4. Macintosh format CDROMs cannot be read on Windows. > 5. There is such a thing as a hybrid CDROM, which contains a CDROM > image in Mac format visible from the Mac, and in goodnessknowswhat > format, visible from Windows. > 6. Creating such hybrid CDROMs is best done from a Mac, though I've > heard some windows software can do it; extensive testing on a Mac > is indicated. Aandi, if I am reading your above comments correctly then I dissagree with your comments on Point 3 We have recently completed a xPlatform CD for Mac, Win 3.x and Win '95 and were faced with similar decisions. We simply included the Mac install folder on the disc and then mastered the disc as an ISO9660. This way the PC's can see all the files, the Mac sees all the files (with PC exchange, inbuilt into every Mac) and all the installers worked fine. As a note of caution, if you intend the disc to be read on Win 3.x you MUST enforce "ISO 9660 Level 1" and for all CD's being sent to Gold Master it is highly recommended that you "Close the session" ie make the format "CD-Rom" NOT "CD-Rom XA" which is multisession" Russell, if I understand your application correctly this means you can author all of your PDF material on the PC and then simply copy the Mac install folder onto the CD and your off! It worked for us with 1500 CD's but as you may read on this list TEST, TEST and TEST again! Regards Dean Laffan REal World Productions > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 2:28:15-GMT,2646;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05478 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA01574; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:35:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:33:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01459; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:33:27 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E031FDC@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'pweddle@ntmail.cpsc.gov'" Subject: [PDF] TIFF/GIF/IMAGE conversion Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:31:04 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have written an application which will allow you to batch convert images to PDF [BMP/GIF/DCX/PCX/TIF]. This utility requires Acrobat Exchange and it automates the existing import image plugin. We will have posted a demonstration version of this on our website http://www.roundtable.com.au/ [under plugins] by Thursday the 16th. If you would like more details then please contact me privately. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - Sign up for Acrobuddies - http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm Aandi Inston wrote: > > > > > I read in the Capture 2.0 documentation, that > > "Acrobat Capture can create pure TIFF images and surround them with a > > thin PDF wrapper." > > > > I have a collection of TIFF images. I want to convert them to PDF in a > > batch job, making the conversion myself. If I understand > > correctly, all > > I need to do is add some static text (PDF markup) before and after a > > TIFF image(???). > > > > I think the statement has misled you. The image data (pixels) from a TIFF > file can be turned into a PDF file without change or loss. But that does > not imply that the PDF format can embed the TIFF format. You need to > completely parse the TIFF format and know a good deal about the PDF format. > > Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 3:22:34-GMT,1802;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06812 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:22:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA02892; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:08:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:06:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02739; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:06:29 -0500 Message-ID: <35350488.C2951F0E@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:03:36 -0700 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: _ Subject: [PDF] Capture plug in accuracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Listers I am using the Exchange capture plug in to try and capture about 20 pages of text and am having trouble.I have never captured, we mostly use electronic source. I have tried scanning the double spaced laser printed page at 200 400 and 600 dpi. None of these resolutions seem to give me any where near the accuracy I expect. I am only getting about 50 -60% accuracy or is this normal for the plug in versus Capture? Any suggestions? TIA Dean Laffan Real World Productions +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 7:01:11-GMT,2245;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA21900 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:01:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA11205; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:41:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA11108; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:11 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:40:58 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <06423593701838@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dean, > Russell, if I understand your application correctly this means you can author > all of your PDF material on the PC and then simply copy the Mac install folder > onto the CD and your off! It worked for us with 1500 CD's but as you may read > on this list TEST, TEST and TEST again! For the PC platform, I simply took the Adobe Acrobat Reader installation folder I found on the PageMaker CD-ROM and copied it to my CD-ROM and it worked fine. I do not think the PageMaker CD-ROM for my PC has such a folder for the Mac. Please excuse some Mac ignorance here. With a PC, where do I get this Mac install folder? Is that what I have if I download Acrobat Reader for the Mac from the Adobe site, should I get a copy of the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM from Adobe and look on it or does this translate into some other action I need to take to acquire it? Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 7:54:43-GMT,2156;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01022 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:54:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA12698; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:39:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:35:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12600; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:35:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] CD-Publishing. Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:30:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd6840$ee9e7680$f2f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35337AC8.35E6@btl.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > Can you be more specific about what happens when you > > use Export Adobe PDF? > > Certainly Aandi; During the sequence, PageMaker asks me to > specify a postscript printer. I don't use a postscript printer, so I > don't have a PS driver installed. I have tried to install > one from the > PM6 programme CD, but to no effect. So, is the problem that you can't install a PostScript driver, or that, having installed one, it doesn't help? There is a PS driver on some Adobe product CDROMs, but there's also one on your Windows 95 CDROM (assuming you're on Windows 95, that is). Use ADD PRINTER from the printers control panel and pick a PS printer, such as the Apple LaserWriter IINTX. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 7:57:40-GMT,2993;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01628 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:57:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA13038; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:51:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:48:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12948; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:48:17 -0500 Message-ID: <350C22D4.AFFE744D@realworld.com.au> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:49:58 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <06423593701838@acmenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Russel, It almost sounds as though you haven't bought Exchange? Can this be right? there are two CD's with Exchange the second one (for Mac or PC) contains all the installers for each platform. If you haven't bought Exchange, I suggest you would find it almost mandatory to complete your project. If not you can download the all the installers from the Adobe web site. If you are planning to Index the document make sure you supply the "Reader and Search" version of the installer BTW Can anyone suggest a reason NOT to include the Reader+Search installer all the time? Russell Hansberry wrote: > Dean, > SNIP > > For the PC platform, I simply took the Adobe Acrobat Reader installation > folder I found on the PageMaker CD-ROM and copied it to my CD-ROM and it > worked fine. I do not think the PageMaker CD-ROM for my PC has such a > folder for the Mac. > > Please excuse some Mac ignorance here. With a PC, where do I get this Mac > install folder? Is that what I have if I download Acrobat Reader for the > Mac from the Adobe site, should I get a copy of the Adobe Acrobat Reader > CD-ROM from Adobe and look on it or does this translate into some other > action I need to take to acquire it? > > Russ Hansberry > rhans@tsi-net.com > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 8:41:18-GMT,2390;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04273 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:41:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA13940; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:23:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:20:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13839; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:20:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:57:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd6847$4d80df20$ddf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3534FA4F.36CC296B@realworld.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > 3. You can only have a Macintosh executable that works on a > Macintosh > > format CDROM. > > 4. Macintosh format CDROMs cannot be read on Windows. > Aandi, if I am reading your above comments correctly then I > dissagree with > your comments on Point 3 We have recently completed a > xPlatform CD for Mac, > Win 3.x and Win '95 and were faced with similar decisions. We > simply included > the Mac install folder on the disc and then mastered the disc > as an ISO9660. > This way the PC's can see all the files, the Mac sees all the > files (with PC > exchange, inbuilt into every Mac) and all the installers worked fine. I guess that an executable can exist on a PC-format CDROM. Would I be correct in assuming, though, that this part of the CDROM image was copied using a Mac? This is valuable stuff, though I don't know if PC Exchange is completely universal. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 8:42:31-GMT,2014;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04341 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:42:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA13941; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:23:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:20:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13814; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:20:51 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:55:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd6847$4c745120$ddf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <06423593701838@acmenet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > Please excuse some Mac ignorance here. With a PC, where do I > get this Mac > install folder? Is that what I have if I download Acrobat > Reader for the > Mac from the Adobe site, should I get a copy of the Adobe > Acrobat Reader > CD-ROM from Adobe and look on it or does this translate into > some other > action I need to take to acquire it? Get the Reader CDROM. It also comes with Acrobat 3.0 (the full product), which I'd kind of hope everyone working with PDF and Adobe tools has a copy of... Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 8:43:56-GMT,2445;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04372 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:43:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA13939; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:23:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:20:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13834; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:20:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture plug in accuracy Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:42:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd6847$4ad239e0$ddf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35350488.C2951F0E@realworld.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I have tried scanning the double spaced laser printed page at 200 400 > and 600 dpi. None of these resolutions seem to give me any where near > the accuracy I expect. I am only getting about 50 -60% accuracy or is > this normal for the plug in versus Capture? If you get poor accuracy from a good original, you need to look at your scanning practice. Scan to a TIFF file and examine it closely in Photoshop. Zoom in to view what Capture actually sees. The letters should be clear, solid and unbroken, and there should be very little in the way of extra spots. You may need to adjust contrast settings until you have a good original. Make a note of them, as they can then be used whenever you are working with that type of original (similar paper and printing technology). Scan in black and white (monochrome) if you can. This makes the job easier for Capture. I don't know how you define 50% accuracy - 50% of pages 100% correct, or 50% of words correct. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 8:47:25-GMT,3638;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04445 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:47:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA14525; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:41:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:38:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14426; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:38:28 -0500 Message-ID: <004a01bd6849$303198e0$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: [PDF] viewing PDF files with bitmap graphics in Acrobat Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:32:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Try using a different zoom factor (133% usually works for me but it probably depends on your system). Beware using "Fit to Width" since the effective zoom factor that the reader will see will depend on their screen etc and won't necessarily therefore see what you do wrt bitmaps. Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 14 April 1998 21:29 Subject: [PDF] viewing PDF files with bitmap graphics in Acrobat > > > >Hello. We have a large number of screen capture bitmaps [4-bit color depth (16 >color)] that are placed in manuals in Pagemaker. While working on these manuals >at their "Actual Size," the images look perfect. We need to create PDF files >from these Pagemaker files. When we look at these PDFs in Acrobat 3.01 the >screen shots always look distorted, even if we view them at 100%. We have tried >turning off any kind of compression for the images, but the results are the >same. When we print from Acrobat, the output is fine. It is just a matter of >not being able to view the images in Acrobat without them looking very bad. Is >there something we are doing wrong, or is this just an intrinsic problem with >PDF files or the Acrobat reader? > > Thank you. > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 10:31:01-GMT,4684;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06627 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:31:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA16886; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:13:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:11:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16780; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: <353575F5.71FEB215@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:07:33 -0700 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <000201bd6847$4d80df20$ddf582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi Inston wrote: > > > 3. You can only have a Macintosh executable that works on a > > Macintosh > > > format CDROM. > > > 4. Macintosh format CDROMs cannot be read on Windows. > > > Aandi, if I am reading your above comments correctly then I > > dissagree with > > your comments on Point 3 We have recently completed a > > xPlatform CD for Mac, > > Win 3.x and Win '95 and were faced with similar decisions. We > > simply included > > the Mac install folder on the disc and then mastered the disc > > as an ISO9660. > > This way the PC's can see all the files, the Mac sees all the > > files (with PC > > exchange, inbuilt into every Mac) and all the installers worked fine. > > I guess that an executable can exist on a PC-format CDROM. > Would I be correct in assuming, though, that this part of the CDROM > image was copied using a Mac? > > This is valuable stuff, though I don't know if PC Exchange is completely > universal. > > Aandi > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Sorry Aandi I don't really understand: Your words: "Would I be correct in assuming, though, that this part of the CDROM image was copied using a Mac?" The Mac installer is on both the Mac and the Windows versions of Exchange. If you want to provide the Mac installer all you have to do is drag the Mac folder onto your master and off you go. HOWEVER.. After thinking through my last post I realise there is a problem. If you need to go to Win3.x you must enforce ISO 9660 level 1 on the burn. This will truncate the Mac installer names and change all text to upper case. If you don't have to cater for Win3.x and can choose say in Toast "allow Macintosh names" Win'95 doesn't get it's nose out of joint and the files read up fine in the Mac. As I found out to my chagrin on our first Acrobat disc, if you 'allow macintosh names" on the master then the files are rendered invisible to Win3.x. i.e. the same disc will work fine in Win'95 but the install folders or anything not 8.3 upper case etc. will not be visible to Win3.x, but the same disc works fine on the Mac and Win'95 So Russell! if you need to go to Win3.x..... you need a hybrid. If you just want to go Win'95 you can go with Mac file names. We do burn in Toast off a Mac so I don't have any experience in suggestions or settings for PC mastering programmes. Can anyone confirm that PC mastering programmes have an "allow Macintosh names" facility? Aandi, my understanding is that all Mac systems after 7.2 had PC Exchange inbuilt. The word is however that it was only real stable after 7.5. Currently it is at 8.1 and 8.2 about to be released. I'm not sure about the % of Mac users with pre 7.2 OS but my guess is pretty except for maybe older slower machines. Schools? maybe? On the 1500 discs we sent in Australia none of the Mac users complained about no PC Exchange, but neither do we know what % of the users were Mac. It was a corporate disc and therefore my guess would be less than around 5% if that. Regards Dean Laffan Real World Productions +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 10:32:07-GMT,3239;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06656 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:32:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA17197; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:24:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:22:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17123; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:22:47 -0500 From: g.pitcher@napier.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:15:00 +0100 Message-ID: <0003D989.3207@napier.ac.uk> Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Capture plug in accuracy To: "Aandi Inston" , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Interesting. I've done a lot of OCR work with both OmniPage and TextBridge (OmniPage always wins hands down) and have found that as far as accuracy (before proofing) is concerned you must use greyscale images. Monochrome multiplies the error by a factor of up to 60. My limited work with Capture (haven't tried the plug-in) supports grey-scale also. George Pitcher Technical Manager SCOPE Project Napier University, Edinburgh http://www.scope.napier.ac.uk/sorb.html _______________________ Reply Separator _______________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture plug in accuracy Author: "Aandi Inston" at Internet-Gateway Date: 15/4/98 8:42 > I have tried scanning the double spaced laser printed page at 200 400 > and 600 dpi. None of these resolutions seem to give me any where near > the accuracy I expect. I am only getting about 50 -60% accuracy or is > this normal for the plug in versus Capture? If you get poor accuracy from a good original, you need to look at your scanning practice. Scan to a TIFF file and examine it closely in Photoshop. Zoom in to view what Capture actually sees. The letters should be clear, solid and unbroken, and there should be very little in the way of extra spots. You may need to adjust contrast settings until you have a good original. Make a note of them, as they can then be used whenever you are working with that type of original (similar paper and printing technology). Scan in black and white (monochrome) if you can. This makes the job easier for Capture. I don't know how you define 50% accuracy - 50% of pages 100% correct, or 50% of words correct. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 10:32:29-GMT,1718;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06669 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:32:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA16887; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:13:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:11:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16802; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:11:28 -0500 Message-Id: <353487D9.B0203556@iil.intel.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:11:37 +0300 From: Arnon Meshoulam Organization: Intel Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] OLE for PDFWriter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Following the thread about OLE... I am trying to automate PDF printing of office documents via OLE. The simplest way would be to print to the PDFWriter driver, giving the file name as a property. It seems that the PDFWriter does not look at the file specified by the printout method (in word, powerpoint), and always prompts for a file. Has anyone been able to get around this? Arnon Meshoulam Intel Israel, LTd. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 12:26:02-GMT,2498;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09052 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 06:26:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA20089; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:07:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:02:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19888; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:02:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3534A1D0.216718DE@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:02:24 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <000201bd6847$4d80df20$ddf582c1@gateway> <353575F5.71FEB215@realworld.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dean Laffan wrote: > > Sorry Aandi I don't really understand: > > Your words: "Would I be correct in assuming, though, that this part of the > CDROM image was copied using a Mac?" > > [...] > > We do burn in Toast off a Mac so I don't have any experience in suggestions or > settings for PC mastering programmes. [...] I believe this is precisely the point. Your answer to Aandi's original question above would then be "Shucks, yeah." I don't think (at least on this list) we've been able to confirm that an ISO 9660 CD-R mastered on a PC can provide a Macintosh executable. That's what Russell needs to do, since he doesn't have a Mac. It is believable to me (and I think Aandi, too) that even a non-hybrid ISO 9660 could support Macintosh executables, BUT I bet only when mastered on a Macintosh. The issue here is whether the mastering computer would have access to the resource forks, thus making the executable, executable. Has anyone on the list actually distributed a Macintosh executable on a CD-ROM mastered on a PC? Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 12:26:19-GMT,1959;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09063 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 06:26:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA20090; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:07:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:03:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19952; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:03:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] OLE for PDFWriter Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:18:19 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd6866$730b1160$72f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <353487D9.B0203556@iil.intel.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Following the thread about OLE... > > I am trying to automate PDF printing of office documents via OLE. The > simplest way would be to print to the PDFWriter driver, > giving the file > name as a property. It seems that the PDFWriter does not look at the > file specified by the printout method (in word, powerpoint), > and always > prompts for a file. Has anyone been able to get around this? Yes, but not with OLE. See the PDFWriter Control Interface specification in the Acrobat SDK. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 13:41:02-GMT,2089;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11113 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:41:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22832; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:18:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:12:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22591; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:12:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565E7.0046BFCC.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:12:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Capture plug in accuracy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would suggest calibrating your scanner, then checking an image closely in Photoshop. My guess is that the mirror is out of alignment. Has it been dropped recently? I have used the capture plug-in quite a bit and found that clean prints (not columns, tables or drawings) always gives 100% accuracy on my HP 6100 CSE at 400 dpi monochrome. I use grayscale if the copy is fax or poor quality. If very poor, grayscale 400 dpi TIFF; adjust in Photoshop for maximum contrast, convert to 1 bit B&W, then OCR with Textbridge. I only use 600 dpi for photos or illustrations. Have also used the direct to searchable pdf for thous' of pages with excellent results. Accuracy is slightly reduced (~98 words out of 100) as documents are from many sources. Takes about 80 sec per page with ADF. Rick Bishop PRP Media Houston +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 14:47:46-GMT,1858;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13314 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:47:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA27971; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:21:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:16:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27697; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:16:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3534C223.944D2C9B@intranetsol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:20:19 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there any way, or Adobe utility, that will convert a file in PDF format to postscript? Using the standard "Use a postscript printer and print to file' option is not going to work for us in this case, so what I really need is a little program to do it. I know that Ghostscript has a pdf->ps converter, but I really would like to keep this whole thing Adobe if I can. thanks for any help. -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 14:57:10-GMT,2322;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13685 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:57:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA29373; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:46:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:44:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29188; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:44:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD685C.8B40C680.rlandis@pit-magnus.com> From: Ray Landis To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:52:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Try Crackerjack from Lantana Ray Landis -----Original Message----- From: Roy J. Davis [SMTP:rdavis@intranetsol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 10:20 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? Is there any way, or Adobe utility, that will convert a file in PDF format to postscript? Using the standard "Use a postscript printer and print to file' option is not going to work for us in this case, so what I really need is a little program to do it. I know that Ghostscript has a pdf->ps converter, but I really would like to keep this whole thing Adobe if I can. thanks for any help. -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 15:22:54-GMT,2202;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14664 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:22:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA30339; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:01:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:59:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30207; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:59:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:58:22 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199804151058_MC2-39F3-C36E@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA30204 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Is there any way, or Adobe utility, that will convert a >file in PDF format to postscript? Using the standard >"Use a postscript printer and print to file' option is >not going to work for us in this case, so what I really >need is a little program to do it. Why wouldn't printing to file from Reader/Exchange do the trick for you? Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 15:29:39-GMT,2073;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14878 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:29:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA31575; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:19:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:17:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31397; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:17:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3534CF82.624CAE37@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:17:22 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? References: <3534C223.944D2C9B@intranetsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Roy J. Davis wrote: > > Is there any way, or Adobe utility, that will convert a > file in PDF format to postscript? Using the standard > "Use a postscript printer and print to file' option is > not going to work for us in this case, so what I really > need is a little program to do it. I know that Ghostscript > has a pdf->ps converter, but I really would like to keep > this whole thing Adobe if I can. The UNIX Acrobat Reader supports a simple command-line switch to generate PostScript output. See `acroread -help` for more info. I see from your message header you are using Windows NT; I don't believe the Windows version of Acrobat Reader has a corresponding feature... Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 15:43:46-GMT,3341;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15446 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:43:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA32328; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:31:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:29:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32180; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:29:28 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E032019@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:27:07 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I assume that printing to file alone "does not do the trick" as you wish to convert a large number of files. You could write a small application [VB/Delphi/C++] which prints-to-postscript and uses windows messages to fill in the dialog that pops up [that is assuming you are on the windows platform]. It wouldn't be the most elegant solution but it would work and wouldn't cost you anything. Alternatively you could write a small plugin which recursed a directory tree using the AVDocPrintPagesWithParams method. This allows you to specify printing to file AND also the filename programmatically. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - Join Acrobuddies today! http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm -----Original Message----- From: olaf druemmer [mailto:callas@compuserve.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 12:58 AM To: PDF listserver Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? >Is there any way, or Adobe utility, that will convert a >file in PDF format to postscript? Using the standard >"Use a postscript printer and print to file' option is >not going to work for us in this case, so what I really >need is a little program to do it. Why wouldn't printing to file from Reader/Exchange do the trick for you? Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 15:44:04-GMT,4193;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15453 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:44:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA31945; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:26:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:23:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31796; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:23:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3534D0DC.123DA30E@denovolit.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:23:08 -0700 From: michaeln@denovolit.com (Michael Nevarez) Organization: De Novo Litigation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF/GIF/IMAGE conversion References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E031FDC@ARTHUR> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------594EAE4FC3C20FD8EA8867F8" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------594EAE4FC3C20FD8EA8867F8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm very interested in your tiff to pdf batch tool. Please send me some more information. Thanks. Karl De Abrew wrote: > We have written an application which will allow you to batch convert > images to PDF [BMP/GIF/DCX/PCX/TIF]. > > This utility requires Acrobat Exchange and it automates the existing > import image plugin. > > We will have posted a demonstration version of this on our website > http://www.roundtable.com.au/ [under plugins] by Thursday the 16th. If > you would like more details then please contact me privately. > > regards, > > Karl De Abrew > karl@roundtable.com.au > Round Table Solutions - Sign up for Acrobuddies - > http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm > > Aandi Inston wrote: > > > > > > > > I read in the Capture 2.0 documentation, that > > > "Acrobat Capture can create pure TIFF images and surround them with > a > > > thin PDF wrapper." > > > > > > I have a collection of TIFF images. I want to convert them to PDF in > a > > > batch job, making the conversion myself. If I understand > > > correctly, all > > > I need to do is add some static text (PDF markup) before and after a > > > TIFF image(???). > > > > > > > I think the statement has misled you. The image data (pixels) from a > TIFF > > file can be turned into a PDF file without change or loss. But that > does > > not imply that the PDF format can embed the TIFF format. You need to > > completely parse the TIFF format and know a good deal about the PDF > format. > > > > Aandi > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------594EAE4FC3C20FD8EA8867F8 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Nevarez, Michael R. 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Box 281678;;;San Francisco;CA;94128-1678;U.S.A. email;internet: michaeln@denovolit.com title: Vice President of Operations, Secretary and General Counsel tel;work: (650) 692-9214 tel;fax: (650) 692-9216 tel;home: N/A note: >Expert Technical Support and Imaging Services< x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------594EAE4FC3C20FD8EA8867F8-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 15:59:33-GMT,2364;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16022 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:59:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA32701; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:38:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:36:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32546; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:35:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3534D496.A458A4BF@glyphica.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:39:02 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <000201bd6847$4d80df20$ddf582c1@gateway> <353575F5.71FEB215@realworld.com.au> <3534A1D0.216718DE@beacon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Cory, Aandi, Dean - We have NOT been able to master a hybrid CD without an actual Mac. We tried, but to no avail ... resource forks, as you suggest. Moving Mac files to the PC can also result in truncated file names. Regards, Deidre ....................................... Glyphica Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com CHECK out the April issue: PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purepdf.com ....................................... Cory Snavely wrote: > > > It is believable to me (and I think Aandi, too) that even a non-hybrid ISO 9660 > could support Macintosh executables, BUT I bet only when mastered on a > Macintosh. The issue here is whether the mastering computer would have access > to the resource forks, thus making the executable, executable. Has anyone on > the list actually distributed a Macintosh executable on a CD-ROM mastered on a > PC? > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 15:59:33-GMT,2107;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16024 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:59:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00321; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:44:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:42:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00136; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:42:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:37:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd6884$ef18e5c0$a1f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3534C223.944D2C9B@intranetsol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Crackerjack is a variant of print, but no more automated; but I think I saw an announcement of a super duper version of Crackerjack with watched folders. If you're prepared to program, you can also remote control Acrobat Exchange with OLE. > > Is there any way, or Adobe utility, that will convert a > file in PDF format to postscript? Using the standard > "Use a postscript printer and print to file' option is > not going to work for us in this case, so what I really > need is a little program to do it. I know that Ghostscript > has a pdf->ps converter, but I really would like to keep > this whole thing Adobe if I can. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 16:00:09-GMT,4536;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16049 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:00:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00515; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:47:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:45:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00342; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:44:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:45:21 -0400 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We were recently faced with a similar situation. We have only CD-ROM "burners" that work with a PC and we needed to make Adobe Acrobat Reader with Search available for the Macintosh as well as for the PC. A Macintosh can read the files on an ISO-9660 CD-ROM without any problems, but it is not possible to place files on such a disc that a Macintosh will recognize as executable. You need to be able to make a "hybrid" disc to do that, not only because of possible long file names but primarily because files have to be "flagged" as to their types. As an aside, the Macintosh installation for Acrobat Reader is on the separate Reader disc. This comes with the full Acrobat package. We did not get the 3.01 Reader disc by default with the 3.01 upgrade, so we had to order it separately. But we did not use it when we made our discs. If you have the means to create a hybrid disc, then you can and should use it. Our solution was to download from the Adobe Web site the BIN file which contains the installation for the Macintosh. The BIN file does not need to have its type recognized, and it does not matter what its name is, so there is no issue in placing it onto an ISO-9660 CD-ROM. A Macintosh user can copy this file to the system, extract the real executables (which will at that point be recognized as valid executables!), and proceed from there. This does impose some extra steps on the user, including removing the intermediate files, but it works quite well. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation > ---------- > From: Cory Snavely[SMTP:snavely@beacon.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 5:02 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat > Reader on Mac > > > Dean Laffan wrote: > > > > Sorry Aandi I don't really understand: > > > > Your words: "Would I be correct in assuming, though, that this part > of the > > CDROM image was copied using a Mac?" > > > > [...] > > > > We do burn in Toast off a Mac so I don't have any experience in > suggestions or > > settings for PC mastering programmes. [...] > > I believe this is precisely the point. Your answer to Aandi's > original question > above would then be "Shucks, yeah." > > I don't think (at least on this list) we've been able to confirm that > an ISO > 9660 CD-R mastered on a PC can provide a Macintosh executable. That's > what > Russell needs to do, since he doesn't have a Mac. > > It is believable to me (and I think Aandi, too) that even a non-hybrid > ISO 9660 > could support Macintosh executables, BUT I bet only when mastered on a > Macintosh. The issue here is whether the mastering computer would > have access > to the resource forks, thus making the executable, executable. Has > anyone on > the list actually distributed a Macintosh executable on a CD-ROM > mastered on a > PC? > > Cory Snavely > The Beacon Group > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 16:00:49-GMT,2580;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16066 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:00:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00447; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:45:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:43:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00242; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:43:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199804151543.IAA26164@vectorfx.metacreations.com> Subject: [PDF] Hybrid CD/Lost links Date: Wed, 15 Apr 98 08:43:37 -0800 x-sender: tbeidler@vectorfx.metacreations.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Tom Beidler To: "Emerge PDFzone" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've been trying to create a front end for a cd using Acrobat. In order to fit everything on one cd, the cd needs to be a hybrid cd with a shared section. Everytime I burn the cd I lose my links on the pc side. Here's my workflow: All on a Mac, -Using Toast v3.5 I create a disk image of the mac front end pdf and additional information, which includes the shared folder of information (pdfs and an application to preview pics). -Mount the disk image and make an alias of the shared folder. -Place the alias in the folder containing the pc information. -Create the front end pdf for the pc side, using buttons to open files from folders within the alias and from directly within the pc folder (no alias). -Burn the cd on a different Mac using Toast v3.5. When I test the cd on the mac everything works flawlessly; opening pdfs, installers, applications, etc. On the pc, however, only the buttons work that were linked to the information that wasn't from the shared, or aliased, folder. Has anyone ran into this problem? I am willing for any and all sugestions. tia, Tom ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Beidler MetaCreations direct: 805.566.6323 fax: 805.566.6350 e-mail: tbeidler@metacreations.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 16:06:37-GMT,3003;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16315 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:06:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01106; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:55:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:53:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00914; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:53:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3534D86C.16E2@document-solutions.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:55:24 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <000201bd6847$4d80df20$ddf582c1@gateway> <353575F5.71FEB215@realworld.com.au> <3534A1D0.216718DE@beacon.com> <3534D496.A458A4BF@glyphica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All: Deidre is right, no can do w/o a Mac. Even if it's basically a disc-burner, media-transfer station and wierd-PDF-checker, I'll quote Glenn G. at Emerge and state that no shop should be without a Mac. So... you want to do cross-platform without one of the platforms, eh?? D. Paknad wrote: > > Hi Cory, Aandi, Dean - > > We have NOT been able to master a hybrid CD without an actual Mac. > We tried, but to no avail ... resource forks, as you suggest. Moving > Mac files to the PC can also result in truncated file names. > > Regards, > Deidre > ....................................... > Glyphica Content Management & Production > http://www.glyphica.com > > CHECK out the April issue: > PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web > http://www.purepdf.com > ....................................... > > Cory Snavely wrote: > > > > > > > It is believable to me (and I think Aandi, too) that even a non-hybrid ISO 9660 > > could support Macintosh executables, BUT I bet only when mastered on a > > Macintosh. The issue here is whether the mastering computer would have access > > to the resource forks, thus making the executable, executable. Has anyone on > > the list actually distributed a Macintosh executable on a CD-ROM mastered on a > > PC? -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 16:08:08-GMT,1458;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16385 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:08:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01381; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:59:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:56:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01170; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:56:51 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03201E@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'michaeln@denovolit.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] TIFF/GIF/IMAGE conversion Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:54:31 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sincere apologies for posting my reply to the group. I noticed the from address as I hit ctrl-enter :( - Karl +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 16:14:37-GMT,4058;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16632 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:14:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01130; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:56:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:54:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01011; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:54:05 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03201D@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] TIFF/GIF/IMAGE conversion Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:51:45 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Michael, Thank you for your enquiry. We have completed work on a tool which allows batch conversion of images to pdf using the existing Import Image plugin. You must have Acrobat Exchange for this application to work. We will be selling this for US $100 and expect to have it available for trial-download [with limited conversions] by tommorow night. You will be able to purchase the full registered version on-line from our website. You can select a folder and image type to process and our application will iterate through that folder and all subfolders creating a new pdf for each image. I hope this assists. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au -----Original Message----- From: michaeln@denovolit.com [mailto:michaeln@denovolit.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 1:23 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF/GIF/IMAGE conversion I'm very interested in your tiff to pdf batch tool. Please send me some more information. Thanks. Karl De Abrew wrote: > We have written an application which will allow you to batch convert > images to PDF [BMP/GIF/DCX/PCX/TIF]. > > This utility requires Acrobat Exchange and it automates the existing > import image plugin. > > We will have posted a demonstration version of this on our website > http://www.roundtable.com.au/ [under plugins] by Thursday the 16th. If > you would like more details then please contact me privately. > > regards, > > Karl De Abrew > karl@roundtable.com.au > Round Table Solutions - Sign up for Acrobuddies - > http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm > > Aandi Inston wrote: > > > > > > > > I read in the Capture 2.0 documentation, that > > > "Acrobat Capture can create pure TIFF images and surround them with > a > > > thin PDF wrapper." > > > > > > I have a collection of TIFF images. I want to convert them to PDF in > a > > > batch job, making the conversion myself. If I understand > > > correctly, all > > > I need to do is add some static text (PDF markup) before and after a > > > TIFF image(???). > > > > > > > I think the statement has misled you. The image data (pixels) from a > TIFF > > file can be turned into a PDF file without change or loss. But that > does > > not imply that the PDF format can embed the TIFF format. You need to > > completely parse the TIFF format and know a good deal about the PDF > format. > > > > Aandi > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 16:17:35-GMT,3570;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16748 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:17:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01494; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:00:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:58:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01333; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:58:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:59:40 -0700 From: jrs@net.com (John Switzer) Message-Id: <199804151559.IAA01269@viola.net.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: Y0g2pCwfGTiBZXZwKtDIGg== Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Almost any CDROM writer that has a SCSI interface will work with a Mac, but you will need to buy Mac writing software for it (or download shareware from the net, if such exists). Then you make a hybrid CD that has two directories on it, an ISO-9660 directory for everyone but Mac and an HFS directory for the Mac. The HFS is what gives the proper file type and application IDs so you can execute programs, etc. on the Mac. There is a program named mkhybrid out there that works on Windows and Unix PCs that will create CDs with an HFS file system so they'll work on Macs. I haven't used it, but from all I have read about it, it does work. See: http://www.ps.ucl.ac.uk/~jcpearso/mkhybrid.html > We were recently faced with a similar situation. We have only CD-ROM > "burners" that work with a PC and we needed to make Adobe Acrobat Reader > with Search available for the Macintosh as well as for the PC. > > A Macintosh can read the files on an ISO-9660 CD-ROM without any > problems, but it is not possible to place files on such a disc that a > Macintosh will recognize as executable. You need to be able to make a > "hybrid" disc to do that, not only because of possible long file names > but primarily because files have to be "flagged" as to their types. > > As an aside, the Macintosh installation for Acrobat Reader is on the > separate Reader disc. This comes with the full Acrobat package. We did > not get the 3.01 Reader disc by default with the 3.01 upgrade, so we had > to order it separately. But we did not use it when we made our discs. > If you have the means to create a hybrid disc, then you can and should > use it. > > Our solution was to download from the Adobe Web site the BIN file which > contains the installation for the Macintosh. The BIN file does not need > to have its type recognized, and it does not matter what its name is, so > there is no issue in placing it onto an ISO-9660 CD-ROM. A Macintosh > user can copy this file to the system, extract the real executables > (which will at that point be recognized as valid executables!), and > proceed from there. This does impose some extra steps on the user, > including removing the intermediate files, but it works quite well. > > Tommy Teague > Unisys Corporation +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 16:38:15-GMT,3952;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17569 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:38:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02255; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:12:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:09:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01994; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:09:55 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:10:00 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Hybrid CD/Lost links To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'Tom Beidler '" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C1009F424@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom, I am not sure what you are doing. Here is my procedure for creating a CD that includes installers. 1. Place all files common for the Mac side on a separate volume. 2. Place the PC/Unix installers on a separate drive. 3. Start Toast and select Hybrid/ISO format 4. Drag the Mac volume on to the dialog 5. open the ISO side and name the CD 6. Drag the Mac volume again onto the iso screen (create alias) 7, Delete the Mac installer folder 8. Add the PC/Unix installer folder 9. Return to the main screen 10. Write the CD. The links from the top level PDF file and all other PDF files work as they should. The Installer folder shows as a Mac on a Mac and as PC/Unix on a PC. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Beidler [SMTP:tbeidler@metacreations.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 12:44 PM > To: Emerge PDFzone > Subject: [PDF] Hybrid CD/Lost links > > > I've been trying to create a front end for a cd using Acrobat. In order > to fit everything on one cd, the cd needs to be a hybrid cd with a shared > section. Everytime I burn the cd I lose my links on the pc side. Here's > my workflow: > > All on a Mac, > -Using Toast v3.5 I create a disk image of the mac front end pdf and > additional information, which includes the shared folder of information > (pdfs and an application to preview pics). > -Mount the disk image and make an alias of the shared folder. >> It is these next two steps that I am not sure of what you are saying.........it sounds like an alias problem. > -Place the alias in the folder containing the pc information. > -Create the front end pdf for the pc side, using buttons to open files > from folders within the alias and from directly within the pc folder (no > alias). > -Burn the cd on a different Mac using Toast v3.5. > > When I test the cd on the mac everything works flawlessly; opening pdfs, > installers, applications, etc. On the pc, however, only the buttons work > that were linked to the information that wasn't from the shared, or > aliased, folder. > > Has anyone ran into this problem? I am willing for any and all sugestions. > > tia, > Tom > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Tom Beidler > MetaCreations > direct: 805.566.6323 > fax: 805.566.6350 > e-mail: tbeidler@metacreations.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 16:42:49-GMT,4673;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17723 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:42:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03625; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:32:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:30:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03482; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:30:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3534E184.8D2CFB02@intranetsol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:34:12 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E032019@ARTHUR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The real reason I can't use the printing to a file solution is because we have other servers running on the same NT box that alter the "default printer" setting in windows, and you can't print to a specific printer using the OLE call "AVDoc.PrintPagesSilent(). That function only prints to the windows default printer (whatever that happens to be set to). I could set that, but there is a concurrency issue there because the other servers do the same type of thing. If I want to set the default printer to a postscript printer (which is using distiller and distiller assistant), I can't be assured that I'm not stepping on the other servers activities. Our solution for that problem was to introduce some sort of flag file which would be created by whichever process needed to mess with the default printer setting, then deleted after it was done. The other process would then test for the existance of the flag file and busy-wait until it no longer existed. BUT... this really isn't the solution we want to employ. It would really be nice if the OLE stuff into Exchange allowed me to choose a printer, but it doesn't. I am unable to find documentation on the "AVDocPrintPagesWithParams" method you suggested. It does not appear in the IAC docs on Adobe's dev site. Is this an undocumented OLE call? thanks. -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- Karl De Abrew wrote: > > I assume that printing to file alone "does not do the trick" as you wish > to convert a large number of files. > > You could write a small application [VB/Delphi/C++] which > prints-to-postscript and uses windows messages to fill in the dialog > that pops up [that is assuming you are on the windows platform]. It > wouldn't be the most elegant solution but it would work and wouldn't > cost you anything. > > Alternatively you could write a small plugin which recursed a directory > tree using the AVDocPrintPagesWithParams method. This allows you to > specify printing to file AND also the filename programmatically. > > regards, > > Karl De Abrew > karl@roundtable.com.au > Round Table Solutions - Join Acrobuddies today! > http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: olaf druemmer [mailto:callas@compuserve.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 12:58 AM > To: PDF listserver > Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? > > >Is there any way, or Adobe utility, that will convert a > >file in PDF format to postscript? Using the standard > >"Use a postscript printer and print to file' option is > >not going to work for us in this case, so what I really > >need is a little program to do it. > > Why wouldn't printing to file from Reader/Exchange do the trick for you? > > Olaf Druemmer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > Olaf Druemmer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 > Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect > +49.30.44342391 > D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 16:42:52-GMT,2791;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17721 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03697; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:33:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:31:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03575; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:31:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3534E1D8.3E781C29@intranetsol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:35:36 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? References: <199804151058_MC2-39F3-C36E@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 we have other servers that alter the windows default printer. See full explaination in another post I just sent. thanks. -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- olaf druemmer wrote: > > >Is there any way, or Adobe utility, that will convert a > >file in PDF format to postscript? Using the standard > >"Use a postscript printer and print to file' option is > >not going to work for us in this case, so what I really > >need is a little program to do it. > > Why wouldn't printing to file from Reader/Exchange do the trick for you? > > Olaf Druemmer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Olaf Druemmer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 > Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 > D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 16:44:44-GMT,2089;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17784 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:44:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03511; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:30:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:27:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03201; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:27:47 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980415172613.0076558c@post.ie.informix.com> X-Sender: helenw@post.ie.informix.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:26:13 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Helen Watchorn Subject: [PDF] @PJL lines in Postscript General header comments Cc: helenw@informix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi - I've created PostScript files in FrameMaker 5.1.2 (Windows 95) using Adobe PS 4.2 Printer Driver + HP 4V/4MV ppd. The first four lines of the ps file reads as follows: helenw@pisa% head 4811.ps -12345X@PJL JOB @PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT %!PS-Adobe-3.1 Does anyone know why the HP printer driver puts the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line on line 4? According to the PS Reference manual this line must be on line 1. I want the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line to be on line 1 - does anyone know what properties I should change to create the following order of lines: %!PS-Adobe-3.1 -12345X@PJL JOB @PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT thanks, Helen Watchorn helenw@informix.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 17:10:49-GMT,1984;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18747 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:10:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05116; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:53:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:50:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04882; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:50:57 -0500 From: AEIgraphic Message-ID: <4fc68368.3534e563@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:50:42 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Using JavaScript to control the timing of Acrobat events Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am trying to control the timing of an Acrobat page event. I know that Acrobat does not have any timing controls built in, but can JavaScript be used to delay an event? I am new to JavaScript and have been trying to use the setTimeout method to delay a page advance (I want to sync the page advance with a sound file). So far, I haven't been able to get it to work, but I don't know whether the problem is Acrobat or my lack of skill with JavaScript. If I can get this to work, it could be used to enhance multimedia presentations made with Acrobat. Any suggestions or help? Any other way of controlling time in Acrobat (for Windows or the Mac). Kevin Landis Advanced Electronic Imaging +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 17:11:50-GMT,3925;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18801 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:11:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04724; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:48:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:44:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04409; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:44:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3534E401.5099C705@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:44:49 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <000201bd6847$4d80df20$ddf582c1@gateway> <353575F5.71FEB215@realworld.com.au> <3534A1D0.216718DE@beacon.com> <3534D496.A458A4BF@glyphica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 D. Paknad wrote: > > We have NOT been able to master a hybrid CD without an actual Mac. > We tried, but to no avail ... resource forks, as you suggest. Moving > Mac files to the PC can also result in truncated file names. Now that I believe...but there is a difference between "ISO 9660" and "Mac/ISO 9660 hybrid". So the discussion continues... Tommy Teague wrote: > > A Macintosh can read the files on an ISO-9660 CD-ROM without any > problems, but it is not possible to place files on such a disc that a > Macintosh will recognize as executable. You need to be able to make a > "hybrid" disc to do that, not only because of possible long file names > but primarily because files have to be "flagged" as to their types. Ah, but are you sure you have to go to the trouble of creating a hybrid, and not just create plain ISO 9660 on a Mac? I just walked back and wrote an ISO 9660 CD image (*not* a hybrid!) using Toast on a Mac. My image had one executable (Acrobat Reader, in fact) and one PDF file. Then, I binhexed each file on the image. binhex told me that both files had the correct type and creator preserved, and moreover the executable had non-zero resource fork size, and it runs just fine. Therefore, I now wholeheartedly believe that Macintosh executables can indeed exist on plain ISO 9660 CDs without going hybrid. This only makes sense, if you think about it, because ISO 9660 existed before Mac/ISO 9660 hybrid, and ISO 9660 wouldn't have been much use if it couldn't support Macintosh executables, right? The only remaining question is whether a Macintosh executable can be written to a non-hybrid ISO 9660 CD by a non-Macintosh computer... (luckily) John Switzer wrote: > > There is a program named mkhybrid out there that works on > Windows and Unix PCs that will create CDs with an HFS file system > so they'll work on Macs. I haven't used it, but from all I have > read about it, it does work. See: > > http://www.ps.ucl.ac.uk/~jcpearso/mkhybrid.html ...and assuming this is correct (which I believe it is), then it is indeed possible, but only with capable software--probably there is more than just this one package that can do it. (I'll bet the resource forks have to be prepared in a certain way, e.g. AppleDouble format, that the PC can deal with.) Whew, well, that resolves the issue for me, anyway. Did all this answer your question, Russell? Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 17:15:00-GMT,2380;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18922 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:14:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05160; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:53:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:51:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04968; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:51:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3534E594.B69B6F19@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:51:32 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] @PJL lines in Postscript General header comments References: <3.0.2.32.19980415172613.0076558c@post.ie.informix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Helen Watchorn wrote: > > The first four lines of the ps file reads as follows: > > helenw@pisa% head 4811.ps > -12345X@PJL JOB > @PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 > @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT > %!PS-Adobe-3.1 > > Does anyone know why the HP printer driver puts the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line on > line 4? According to the PS Reference manual this line must be on line 1. > > I want the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line to be on line 1 - does anyone know what > properties I should change to create the following order of lines: > > %!PS-Adobe-3.1 > -12345X@PJL JOB > @PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 > @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT You don't want the latter either. The code prefixed to the file is HP language to set the printer into PostScript mode. It is not PostScript code. Your options are to 1) disable the generation of that code (I don't know how) or 2) use a different printer driver, presumably the Acrobat Distiller printer driver, "for best results". Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 17:14:57-GMT,3499;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18918 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:14:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05297; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:55:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:53:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05137; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:53:31 -0500 From: "David M. Davisson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] @PJL lines in Postscript General header comments Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:52:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000301bd688e$e46b8ba0$a2456cc7@shadow.pfp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980415172613.0076558c@post.ie.informix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Helen, HP 4 printers use PCL as the default printer language. The PPD inserts a command to the printer to switch to Postscript printer language, hence the actual postscript file starts on line 4. the simple workaround is to use a different PPD for a true postscript printer. Usually one of the Apple Laserwriter PPDs do the job. The HP 4 will automatically switch to Postscript if it encounters a Postscript file header. When selecting Apple Laserwriter PPDs, pick one of the Level 2 Postscript printers. David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Helen Watchorn > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 9:26 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Cc: helenw@informix.com > Subject: [PDF] @PJL lines in Postscript General header comments > > > > Hi - I've created PostScript files in FrameMaker 5.1.2 (Windows 95) using > Adobe PS 4.2 Printer Driver + HP 4V/4MV ppd. > > The first four lines of the ps file reads as follows: > > helenw@pisa% head 4811.ps > -12345X@PJL JOB > @PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 > @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT > %!PS-Adobe-3.1 > > Does anyone know why the HP printer driver puts the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line on > line 4? According to the PS Reference manual this line must be on line 1. > > I want the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line to be on line 1 - does anyone know what > properties I should change to create the following order of lines: > > %!PS-Adobe-3.1 > -12345X@PJL JOB > @PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 > @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT > > thanks, > Helen Watchorn > helenw@informix.com > > > > > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 17:29:38-GMT,5696;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19376 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:29:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA06262; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:12:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:10:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06125; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:10:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3534E9FB.43CA9968@denovolit.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:10:19 -0700 From: michaeln@denovolit.com (Michael Nevarez) Organization: De Novo Litigation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF/GIF/IMAGE conversion References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03201D@ARTHUR> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------26ED68BA6F17853C87734417" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------26ED68BA6F17853C87734417 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you. I'll be on the lookout. Karl De Abrew wrote: > Michael, > > Thank you for your enquiry. > > We have completed work on a tool which allows batch conversion of images > to pdf using the existing Import Image plugin. You must have Acrobat > Exchange for this application to work. > > We will be selling this for US $100 and expect to have it available for > trial-download [with limited conversions] by tommorow night. You will be > able to purchase the full registered version on-line from our website. > > You can select a folder and image type to process and our application > will iterate through that folder and all subfolders creating a new pdf > for each image. > > I hope this assists. > > regards, > > Karl De Abrew > karl@roundtable.com.au > Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download > RTSJoust! > http://www.roundtable.com.au > > -----Original Message----- > From: michaeln@denovolit.com [mailto:michaeln@denovolit.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 1:23 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF/GIF/IMAGE conversion > > I'm very interested in your tiff to pdf batch tool. Please send me some > more > information. > > Thanks. > > Karl De Abrew wrote: > > > We have written an application which will allow you to batch convert > > images to PDF [BMP/GIF/DCX/PCX/TIF]. > > > > This utility requires Acrobat Exchange and it automates the existing > > import image plugin. > > > > We will have posted a demonstration version of this on our website > > http://www.roundtable.com.au/ [under plugins] by Thursday the 16th. If > > you would like more details then please contact me privately. > > > > regards, > > > > Karl De Abrew > > karl@roundtable.com.au > > Round Table Solutions - Sign up for Acrobuddies - > > http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm > > > > Aandi Inston wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I read in the Capture 2.0 documentation, that > > > > "Acrobat Capture can create pure TIFF images and surround them > with > > a > > > > thin PDF wrapper." > > > > > > > > I have a collection of TIFF images. I want to convert them to PDF > in > > a > > > > batch job, making the conversion myself. If I understand > > > > correctly, all > > > > I need to do is add some static text (PDF markup) before and after > a > > > > TIFF image(???). > > > > > > > > > > I think the statement has misled you. The image data (pixels) from a > > TIFF > > > file can be turned into a PDF file without change or loss. But that > > does > > > not imply that the PDF format can embed the TIFF format. You need to > > > completely parse the TIFF format and know a good deal about the PDF > > format. > > > > > > Aandi > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------26ED68BA6F17853C87734417 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Nevarez, Michael R. Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Michael R. 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Box 281678;;;San Francisco;CA;94128-1678;U.S.A. email;internet: michaeln@denovolit.com title: Vice President of Operations, Secretary and General Counsel tel;work: (650) 692-9214 tel;fax: (650) 692-9216 tel;home: N/A note: >Expert Technical Support and Imaging Services< x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------26ED68BA6F17853C87734417-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 18:12:07-GMT,2759;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21170 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:12:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA08913; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:56:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:53:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08714; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:53:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199804151753.MAA08709@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] @PJL lines in Postscript General header comments Date: Wed, 15 Apr 98 19:53:34 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Hi - I've created PostScript files in FrameMaker 5.1.2 (Windows 95) using >Adobe PS 4.2 Printer Driver + HP 4V/4MV ppd. > >The first four lines of the ps file reads as follows: > >helenw@pisa% head 4811.ps >-12345X@PJL JOB >@PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 >@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT >%!PS-Adobe-3.1 > >Does anyone know why the HP printer driver puts the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line on >line 4? According to the PS Reference manual this line must be on line 1. > >I want the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line to be on line 1 - does anyone know what >properties I should change to create the following order of lines: > >%!PS-Adobe-3.1 >-12345X@PJL JOB >@PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 >@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT You should understand that the "@PJL" entries are not PostScript, so they are outside PostScript code that starts - as it should - with the "%!PS-Adobe" line. These are HP private statements that switch the internal interpreter to PS (as opposite to PCL) and set the resolution. They give errors to non-HP PS interpreters. So your code would give errors even with "%!PS-Adobe" in the first line: you should delete all "@PJL" lines to print correctly to non-HP printers or RIPs (even Distiller). My suggestion is to avoid HP PPDs if not necessary, or to edit files before interpreting. If your goal is to Distill PS files (if no, your post would better be posted to a PS listserv) you are suggested to install the Acrobat PPD with Adobe 4.2 driver. Greetings, Andrea +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 18:37:39-GMT,3247;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22069 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:37:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09799; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:14:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:11:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09671; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:11:45 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980415181156.0099a37c@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> X-Sender: sasrzs@mailhost.fyi.sas.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:11:56 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randy Stoltz Subject: Re: [PDF] @PJL lines in Postscript General header comments Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 As other replies have stated this HP PCL codes are put there by the HP PS driver since the HP4 printers default to HP PCL instead of postscript. You should be able to turn this off in the printer properties by selecting the Archive format for the PostScript output. While the apple Laserwriter is a more generic postscript driver I still like and use the HP driver for producing postscript files for distilling. At 05:26 PM 4/15/98 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi - I've created PostScript files in FrameMaker 5.1.2 (Windows 95) using >Adobe PS 4.2 Printer Driver + HP 4V/4MV ppd. > >The first four lines of the ps file reads as follows: > >helenw@pisa% head 4811.ps >-12345X@PJL JOB >@PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 >@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT >%!PS-Adobe-3.1 > >Does anyone know why the HP printer driver puts the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line on >line 4? According to the PS Reference manual this line must be on line 1. > >I want the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line to be on line 1 - does anyone know what >properties I should change to create the following order of lines: > >%!PS-Adobe-3.1 >-12345X@PJL JOB >@PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 >@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT > >thanks, >Helen Watchorn >helenw@informix.com > > > > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > _____________________________________________________________________ Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 ____________________________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 18:37:42-GMT,4247;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22076 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:37:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09421; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:05:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:02:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09225; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:02:55 -0500 From: WBren@gre-ins.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:02:59 -0400 Message-ID: <534F6A20.@gre-ins.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Differences in Forms function between IE and Netsc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Someone from Haht software wrote me privately asking for clarification, I sent him the following mess of an explanation, and thought I'd share it with the group at large. I have resigned myself to the fact that it is an IE-Acrobat thing, and that I would need to use IE 4.0 to get the reset form feature to work. Of course it seems to me I've seen messages here about IE 4.0 Acrobat problems. Disappointing that IE has recently been reported to have become the most installed/used browser? If anyone has any other comments about what I am attempting here, feel free to mail me. Thanks-Wes +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Its the standard Acrobat 3.0 forms capability. My description was not the best I guess. I am/was talking about the setting a filed property so that a mouse down (for example) initiates a Acrobat-Standard "action"-in this case "reset form" of which I have indicated that it should reset specific fields. The purpose of all this is to make it so the customer when clicking on a certain check box has certain fields available to him, and other reset/cleared, and some option hidden. All of this is required to add reduce entry error making a form that was designed to be printed into an electronic form, ie. we used the existing form. There is no real connection to the Haht software except that it is the server--I think it is really about an issue between Acrobat and IE. (IE 4.0 reportedly works). ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] Differences in Forms function between IE and Netscape Author: WBren@gre-ins.com at iegate Date: 4/14/98 4:02 PM I've placed a sample PDF form out on the internet as part of a demonstration/trial of the Haut/Digidox-Adobe Electronic forms partnership. One of the problems I am seeing is that form fields that contain code that reset other fields work within in the Netscape Navigator but Not Microsoft's Internet Explorer. I am using NN ver 3.01 and IE ver 3.02. Reader works as a plug-in in both, and when I loaded Acrobat Exchange as a plug-in the result were the same ie failure in IE. It is possible that certain versions of IE will work and other wont? Anyone know what is responsible for the difference (beside Gates and his minions...), and what options our users would have (assuming most will have IE)? Thanks, Wes Bren GRE Insurance Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 18:47:45-GMT,4000;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22411 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:47:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11101; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:37:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:35:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10935; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:35:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980415203836.00961bb0@julius.ktl.mii.lt> X-Sender: sarunas@julius.ktl.mii.lt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:38:36 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarunas Subject: Re: [PDF] @PJL lines in Postscript General header comments In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980415181156.0099a37c@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, for HP LaserJet 5PS on WInNT I wasn't able to find 'Archive format'. So ps file still contained PCL lines. But it distilled without problems (Distiller 3.02 on WinNT). At 02:11 PM 4/15/98 -0400, you wrote: > >As other replies have stated this HP PCL codes are put there by the HP PS >driver since the HP4 printers default to HP PCL instead of postscript. You >should be able to turn this off in the printer properties by selecting the >Archive format for the PostScript output. While the apple Laserwriter is a >more generic postscript driver I still like and use the HP driver for >producing postscript files for distilling. > >At 05:26 PM 4/15/98 +0100, you wrote: >> >>Hi - I've created PostScript files in FrameMaker 5.1.2 (Windows 95) using >>Adobe PS 4.2 Printer Driver + HP 4V/4MV ppd. >> >>The first four lines of the ps file reads as follows: >> >>helenw@pisa% head 4811.ps >>-12345X@PJL JOB >>@PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 >>@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT >>%!PS-Adobe-3.1 >> >>Does anyone know why the HP printer driver puts the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line on >>line 4? According to the PS Reference manual this line must be on line 1. >> >>I want the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line to be on line 1 - does anyone know what >>properties I should change to create the following order of lines: >> >>%!PS-Adobe-3.1 >>-12345X@PJL JOB >>@PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 >>@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT >> >>thanks, >>Helen Watchorn >>helenw@informix.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >> >_____________________________________________________________________ > > Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. > Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive > Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA > Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 >____________________________________________________________________ > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Sarunas Burdulis VTEX Typesetting and Electronic Publishing sarunas@ktl.mii.lt +370 2 729609; +370 98 24498 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 19:46:14-GMT,1777;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24307 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:46:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13766; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:28:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:26:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13634; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:25:59 -0500 Message-ID: <35350891.A047975@erols.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:20:49 -0400 From: Ed Chase X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <000201bd6847$4d80df20$ddf582c1@gateway> <353575F5.71FEB215@realworld.com.au> <3534A1D0.216718DE@beacon.com> <3534D496.A458A4BF@glyphica.com> <3534E401.5099C705@beacon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There is a Windows application for creating HFS/ISO hybrids available at: http://www.macdisk.com/hybriden.htm I've only used it in conjunction with Gear premastering software and only in Win95, but it will create a real hybrid HFS/ISO CD in Windows. Ed Chase FedSoft Corp. echase@erols.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 19:48:12-GMT,2375;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24397 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:48:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13393; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:22:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:19:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13159; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:19:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:24:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Matthew Schneider To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDFWriter vs. Distiller and C++ coding. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a first time post for me as I am new to this list - I was unable to find an archive of the list so I am just posting my question outright. I have some documents I need to programmatically print from a Window NT base and convert to PDF. My original thought was to use the PDFWriter Printer Escape function that is documented in the sdk, however I have failed at implimenting it. It appears as if I have followed the syntax correctly, however every time I call the escape, it fails. The remainder of the code works perfectly and prints the document to the PDF file that I manually specify after the Escape fails and the dialog box appears. Is there some trick to getting this call to function properly? I can send my simplistic test source to anyone interested. Also, I have heard that there is a group out in the development community that belives it is better to print the postscript and distill - instead of using PDFWriter. This would be an alternative, but it introduces several new steps into the picture. What is the preferred method - PDFWriter, or Distiller? Thank you, -Matt +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 20:36:24-GMT,2770;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26215 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:36:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16052; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:12:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:07:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15829; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:07:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980415221014.007df250@re.nettuno.it> X-Sender: reg001d1@re.nettuno.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:10:14 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: LinkService Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? In-Reply-To: <199804151058_MC2-39F3-C36E@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Olaf, you can use Crackerjack an Acrobat Exchange Plug-in to print on disk PostScript file. Try the demo version at: www.lantanarips.com. I hope this can help you. Vainer Gilioli At 10.58 15/04/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>Is there any way, or Adobe utility, that will convert a >>file in PDF format to postscript? Using the standard >>"Use a postscript printer and print to file' option is >>not going to work for us in this case, so what I really >>need is a little program to do it. > >Why wouldn't printing to file from Reader/Exchange do the trick for you? > >Olaf Druemmer > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Olaf Druemmer >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 >Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 >D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 20:36:25-GMT,3716;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26216 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:36:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16367; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:17:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:12:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16098; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:12:53 -0500 From: kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com Message-Id: <9804158926.AA892668876@deltahealth.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 98 15:34:37 -0500 To: , Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] viewing PDF files with bitmap graphics in Acrob MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The entire point of turning off compression (especially "lossy" compression like the JPG format) was to force the bitmap to display EXACTLY the same as it was created. Does this not make sense? It seems confusing that we should turn on compression, but we tried what you suggested and things look even worse. Why must the distiller change this? You said that "100% in distiller isn't quite exactly 100%." Why is this? Can it be prevented? Thank you. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: [PDF] viewing PDF files with bitmap graphics in Acrobat Author: Date: 4/14/98 5:07 PM Kelly: I feel that your problem originates with your statement "turned off compression" This forces the bitmap to display a screen image slightly different from the resolution it was created at. 72 dpi bmp screen capture will display fine only at 100% IN A PAINT PROGRAM or in a publishing program which gets its image from the originator. 100% in distiller isn't quite exactly 100%. Being just a little off means it must dither the image to display it. 90 and 50 look really terrible. You will find that jpgs are generally more suitable for display on various systems and at differing magnifications. Try this: Open the bmp in photoshop or paintshop pro or what have you; Switch mode to RGB; Change resolution to 140-200 dpi while maintaining apparent size; anti-aliasing on (file size will get bigger); Change mode to 8 bit color; Save As, Jpeg high Set your Distiller or PdfWriter job options to downsample to Jpeg med-high at 110-140 dpi or experiment with lowering the settings until you get the smallest files possible `without sacrificing image display quality at 250% in the pdf. If your images contain large areas of the same color, try making a GIF or better yet, create the image in Illustrator, export to eps, wmf, or tiff if it contains gradients. If you must turn off compression completely, use only 180+dpi bitmaps or tiffs. Rick Bishop PRP Media Houston +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 20:54:44-GMT,4844;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26829 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:54:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17539; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:37:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:34:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17283; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:34:44 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980415203455.0094b338@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> X-Sender: sasrzs@mailhost.fyi.sas.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:34:55 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randy Stoltz Subject: Re: [PDF] @PJL lines in Postscript General header comments Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I neglected to mention this option is only available on the Win 95 version of the driver. Sorry. At 08:38 PM 4/15/98 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi, for HP LaserJet 5PS on WInNT I wasn't able to find 'Archive format'. So >ps file still contained PCL lines. But it distilled without problems >(Distiller 3.02 on WinNT). > >At 02:11 PM 4/15/98 -0400, you wrote: >> >>As other replies have stated this HP PCL codes are put there by the HP PS >>driver since the HP4 printers default to HP PCL instead of postscript. You >>should be able to turn this off in the printer properties by selecting the >>Archive format for the PostScript output. While the apple Laserwriter is a >>more generic postscript driver I still like and use the HP driver for >>producing postscript files for distilling. >> >>At 05:26 PM 4/15/98 +0100, you wrote: >>> >>>Hi - I've created PostScript files in FrameMaker 5.1.2 (Windows 95) using >>>Adobe PS 4.2 Printer Driver + HP 4V/4MV ppd. >>> >>>The first four lines of the ps file reads as follows: >>> >>>helenw@pisa% head 4811.ps >>>-12345X@PJL JOB >>>@PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 >>>@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT >>>%!PS-Adobe-3.1 >>> >>>Does anyone know why the HP printer driver puts the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line on >>>line 4? According to the PS Reference manual this line must be on line 1. >>> >>>I want the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line to be on line 1 - does anyone know what >>>properties I should change to create the following order of lines: >>> >>>%!PS-Adobe-3.1 >>>-12345X@PJL JOB >>>@PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 >>>@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT >>> >>>thanks, >>>Helen Watchorn >>>helenw@informix.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>>+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>> >>> >>_____________________________________________________________________ >> >> Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. >> Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive >> Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA >> Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 >>____________________________________________________________________ >> >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >Sarunas Burdulis >VTEX Typesetting and Electronic Publishing >sarunas@ktl.mii.lt >+370 2 729609; +370 98 24498 >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > _____________________________________________________________________ Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. 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Cary, NC 27513 USA Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 ____________________________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 21:27:58-GMT,2728;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28111 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:27:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18479; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:53:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:51:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18354; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:51:02 -0500 Message-ID: <35351DBD.274ACBED@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:51:09 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] viewing PDF files with bitmap graphics in Acrob References: <9804158926.AA892668876@deltahealth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com wrote: > > [...] You said that "100% in distiller isn't quite > exactly 100%." Why is this? Can it be prevented? Check the list archive for the gory details on this issue. In a nutshell, most desktop apps assume 96dpi displays for their "100%" view. Acrobat assumes 72dpi for its "100%" view. I'm sure you've noticed "100%" doesn't match your paper exactly, and so that's why an assumption about screen resolution must be made. Now 96/72 = 1.33, and so viewing something at 133% in Acrobat often makes a screen capture appear as expected. The aspect ratio is then the same as it was in your desktop app. It is a numbers game. You could theoretically compensate the other way, in the desktop app, by scaling the image to 75% (72/96) in your document, and assuming no downsampling is done, then viewing in Acrobat at "100%" would also appear as expected. (Haven't tried it, though.) Either way, you have to view the PDF at a specific aspect ratio in order to get a good view. Note that this is not a problem with Acrobat, but rather a bigger problem with the scalability of images on low-resolution output devices (screens). A better general solution would be to trace or vectorize your screen capture so that it can be rendered cleanly by Acrobat at any aspect ratio. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 21:28:46-GMT,2315;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28136 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:28:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18904; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:59:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:57:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18715; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:57:37 -0500 Message-ID: <35351F48.509F677C@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:57:44 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFWriter vs. Distiller and C++ coding. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Matthew Schneider wrote: > > Also, I have heard that there is a group out in the development community > that belives it is better to print the postscript and distill - instead > of using PDFWriter. This would be an alternative, but it introduces > several new steps into the picture. What is the preferred method - > PDFWriter, or Distiller? Essentially, Distiller is going to give you more options for image compression and downsampling. Beyond that, Distiller also gives you the ability to blend in Acrobat functionality (links, etc.), whereas with PDFWriter, if you want those features, you'll have to post-process to get them. So depending on the nature of your source files, the Distiller/PDFWriter issue can be a small issue, a big issue, or anywhere in between. That said, in all my work, I currently prefer to use Distiller so as to get maximum control over the output. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 21:42:30-GMT,2919;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28592 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:42:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23039; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:41:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:32:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22371; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:32:52 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:33:16 -0500 To: PDF-Announce@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF-ANC] Emerge ***EXTRA*** v.03, n.11 Sender: owner-pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ============================================================ V.03, N.011 ***Emerge EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra41098.html ============================================================ The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + PDF Has Its Day in (Arkansas) Courtroom * Download the judge's ruling in dismissed Jones v. 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In-Reply-To: <35351F48.509F677C@beacon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Cory Snavely wrote: > > > > Also, I have heard that there is a group out in the development community > > that belives it is better to print the postscript and distill - instead > > of using PDFWriter. This would be an alternative, but it introduces > > So depending on the nature of your source files, the Distiller/PDFWriter issue > can be a small issue, a big issue, or anywhere in between. The files will be formatted text primarily - there will be no image processing. It would be quicker to process to use PDFWriter - would there still be compression issues with the text? Thank You, -Matt +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 22:28:45-GMT,3242;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00580 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:28:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA25591; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:21:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:19:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25389; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:19:15 -0500 Posted-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:19:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: babcock@mail.visi.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:20:40 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dan Babcock Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 12:44 PM -0400 4/15/98, Cory Snavely wrote: >I just walked back and wrote an ISO 9660 CD image (*not* a hybrid!) using >Toast >on a Mac. My image had one executable (Acrobat Reader, in fact) and one PDF >file. Then, I binhexed each file on the image. binhex told me that both >files >had the correct type and creator preserved, and moreover the executable had >non-zero resource fork size, and it runs just fine. > >Therefore, I now wholeheartedly believe that Macintosh executables can indeed >exist on plain ISO 9660 CDs without going hybrid. This only makes sense, >if you >think about it, because ISO 9660 existed before Mac/ISO 9660 hybrid, and ISO >9660 wouldn't have been much use if it couldn't support Macintosh executables, >right? I have successfully written many CD formats using Toast on a Mac. This includes the ISO 9660. I have no difficulty writing them or using them cross platform. I looked up some information from the Toast manual about these formats. Toast supports several ISO 9660 formats: - ISO 9960 Level 1 that allows 8.3 filenames - MS-DOS Names - Mac Names - Joliet (MS-DOS + Windows 95) On the Mac, all of these will show up as ISO 9660 filenames and directory structure. The Mac/ISO hybrid gives the disk the added ability of recognizes 3 different file systems HFS (MacOS), ISO 9660, and Joliet (MS-DOS, Windows 95). I always write ISO 9660 CDs in this format. I don't have any experience writing CDs from the Windows world. Since MS-DOS and Windows 95 do not support Mac resource forks I assume it is not possible to write cross platform CDs with Mac executables. I see no reason, however, that Windows NT can not. NT has full support for Macintosh services, including understanding Macintosh files with resource forks. I also assume a program like Toast running under NT could then write a truly cross platform CD. I'm just speculating here. Hope this helps, Dan +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 23:42:44-GMT,2730;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03075 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:42:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28249; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:14:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:09:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28000; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:09:44 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:08:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd68c3$79a7e680$73f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I don't have any experience writing CDs from the Windows world. Since > MS-DOS and Windows 95 do not support Mac resource forks I > assume it is not > possible to write cross platform CDs with Mac executables. I see no > reason, however, that Windows NT can not. NT has full support for > Macintosh services, including understanding Macintosh files > with resource > forks. I also assume a program like Toast running under NT could then > write a truly cross platform CD. I'm just speculating here. I doubt this is true. Windows NT understands about resource forks just enough to support Macintosh networking. It stores resource forks written by Macs on the network, and gives them back later. But I don't think it knows any more than this. Furthermore, the format it uses on a Windows NT disk to store resource forks (and finder info) will not be the same as that used by a Macintosh to store resource forks onto a a PC-format disk. The only way a Mac will read resource forks directly from a medium is if a Mac wrote them there. Or, that's my understanding. I'd love to be proved wrong, that Microsoft and Apple have agreed a mapping of the MacOS filing system model onto the Windows NT filing model. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 0:29:41-GMT,1680;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04523 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:29:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA30684; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:06:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:02:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA30453; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:02:45 -0500 Message-ID: <350D073B.40A598C9@realworld.com.au> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:04:30 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Capture accuracy + xplatform CD's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to all for your suggestions re improving ca[ture I will give them all a go. Also thanks to the thread on Mac/Win cd's which has greatly clarified the issue for me. Bottom line for Xplatform... Get a real computer Russell.. Get a Mac! :-) Dean Laffan Real World Productions +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Apr-1998 22:25:17-GMT,1506;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00467 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:25:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA25113; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:15:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:12:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24836; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:12:45 -0500 X-Sender: laufer@139.82.16.3 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:12:49 -0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Laufer Subject: [PDF] Converters to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hi, My name is Laufer and I'm a researcher at LES (Software Engeneering Lab) at PUC-Rio, Brazil. We here have a distance learning project called AulaNet and we are lookimg for a script to convert files from PS to PDF or from RTF to PDF. Can anybody help me? thank you, laufer +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 2:16:33-GMT,2464;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07534 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:16:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA02271; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:44:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:39:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02074; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:39:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:39:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: kingkern@mail.eclipse.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804151444.JAA29205@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jim kramer Subject: RE: [PDF] CD-Publishing Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >From: "Aandi Inston" >Subject: RE: [PDF] CD-Publishing. > >> > Can you be more specific about what happens when you >> > use Export Adobe PDF? >> >> Certainly Aandi; During the sequence, PageMaker asks me to >> specify a postscript printer. I don't use a postscript printer, so I >> don't have a PS driver installed. I have tried to install >> one from the >> PM6 programme CD, but to no effect. > >So, is the problem that you can't install a PostScript driver, or >that, having installed one, it doesn't help? > >There is a PS driver on some Adobe product CDROMs, but there's also >one on your Windows 95 CDROM (assuming you're on Windows 95, that is). >Use ADD PRINTER from the printers control panel and pick a PS printer, >such as the Apple LaserWriter IINTX. also -- isn't there an install for an acrobat-specific driver on the pagemaker cd-rom? i've got one installed, not sure where i got it, but i'm almost sure that's where it came from. Jim Kramer _________________________________________________________ *Every* day is a beautiful day. --Elwood P. Dowd +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 10:03:21-GMT,2186;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07275 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:03:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA17429; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:43:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:36:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA17258; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:36:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199804160936.EAA17254@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Mixed-Sized PDF documents - Reply Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 11:36:43 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Based on previous list inputs, it looks like there is only ONE way to print >these to the correct paper sizes: Manual human intervention. A human >operator must select the page ranges to send to each different kind of >paper size. (We have networked printers and plotters that can handle >multiple page size originals.) > >Is my conclusion correct? Is there any way to print multiple page size >pdf's? Would we have to try to customize our code to do this? Paul, I've never tried this, but I think it would be possible to write a plug-in that prints each page in a specified range recognizing page dimensions and performing page setup with relative parameters programatically. The Acrobat API contains interesting functions like AVDocPrintPagesWithParams and PDDocPrintPages. My suggestion is to forward your question to the PDFdev list and see if someone can give you support for this. Andrea +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 11:18:15-GMT,3453;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08648 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:18:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA19594; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:02:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:58:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19400; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:58:24 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03202B@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'laufer@inf.puc-rio.br'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Converters to PDF Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:56:01 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Laufer, The Acrobat Distiller converts PS to PDF and can be setup to use a 'watched folder'. This will allow you to process your postscript files in a batch [This product comes with Acrobat 3.0] With respect to your second question, here is an example of a very simple Microsoft Word 97 macro which you could use to convert all of the RTF documents in a folder called 'c:\worddocstoconvert' to ps [and consequently using the distiller to pdf]. You could extend this macro to save the postscript file directly into a watched folder [perhaps c:\worddocstoconvert\in] with minimal effort. I hope this helps. Sub PrintAllWordToPS() ' Date: 16 Apr 1998 ' Author: Karl De Abrew ' http://www.roundtable.com.au/ Dim strFileName As String Dim strPath As String ' Replace this with your word doc strPath = "c:\worddocstoconvert\" ' Get the first word doc in the directory strFileName = Dir(strPath + "*.doc", vbNormal) Do While strFileName <> "" Documents.Open FileName:=strPath + strFileName Documents(strFileName).PrintOut PrintToFile:=True, outputfilename:=strPath + Left(strFileName, Len(strFileName) - 3) + "ps" Documents.Close ' Get the next word doc in the directory strFileName = Dir Loop End Sub regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - Have you signed up with AcroBuddies http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm -----Original Message----- From: Laufer [mailto:laufer@inf.puc-rio.br] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 8:13 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Converters to PDF hi, My name is Laufer and I'm a researcher at LES (Software Engeneering Lab) at PUC-Rio, Brazil. We here have a distance learning project called AulaNet and we are lookimg for a script to convert files from PS to PDF or from RTF to PDF. Can anybody help me? thank you, laufer +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 11:21:03-GMT,2113;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08694 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:21:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA19753; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:07:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:04:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19634; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:03:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [PDF] MPEG/QuickTime Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 12:03:44 +0100 x-sender: shoto@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Graeme Armitage To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I would like to know more about MPEGOpen. I have searched high and low for >an MPEG playback solution within Acrobat. > >Norm Brandsma >Production Coordinator >TTG Systems Inc. >nbrandsma@ttg-inc.com Hi I sent you some details on mpegopen I have faild to get it to work at all If your still interested I will send you a copy and you can see if it works If you wouldent mind letting me know how you get on with it and explain how you get it to work Regards Graeme Armitage Creative Director Telephone 0161 941 4288 Quest Design Facimile 0161 941 2444 Atlantic street Email graeme@quest-design.co.uk Altrincham Cheshire Sites Designed and maintained WA14 5DH http://www.property-realestate-uk.com United Kingdom +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 12:52:13-GMT,1619;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10620 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:52:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA22885; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:38:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:35:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22762; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:35:16 -0500 From: royaustin@juno.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:27:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? Message-ID: <19980416.082734.18430.2.RoyAustin@juno.com> References: <199804151058_MC2-39F3-C36E@compuserve.com> <3534E1D8.3E781C29@intranetsol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you're on Win95, just download the new plug-in from Adobe that allows you to export to PS or EPS. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 12:52:14-GMT,5953;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10624 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:52:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA22602; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:32:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:27:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22330; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:27:21 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E032030@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:24:59 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Roy, The "AVDocPrintPagesWithParams" is a documented method that you call from a 'c' plugin. It is not an OLE call. You will find the documentation in the Plugin API refererence manual [vwrpiref.pdf] under \docs\techdocs. If you don't want to use existing solutions [for whatever reason(s)], then you could write a plug-in [an extension for Acrobat Exchange itself] which added a menu item to 'Print-all-the-files-in-a-directory-tree-to-postscript'. This would not be very complex and would seem to me to be the most robust way [in my opinion]. If you wished to automate this then you could use the MenuItemExecute function to fire off your process. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - Join Acrobuddies for more even more help http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm -----Original Message----- From: Roy J. Davis [mailto:rdavis@intranetsol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 2:34 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? The real reason I can't use the printing to a file solution is because we have other servers running on the same NT box that alter the "default printer" setting in windows, and you can't print to a specific printer using the OLE call "AVDoc.PrintPagesSilent(). That function only prints to the windows default printer (whatever that happens to be set to). I could set that, but there is a concurrency issue there because the other servers do the same type of thing. If I want to set the default printer to a postscript printer (which is using distiller and distiller assistant), I can't be assured that I'm not stepping on the other servers activities. Our solution for that problem was to introduce some sort of flag file which would be created by whichever process needed to mess with the default printer setting, then deleted after it was done. The other process would then test for the existance of the flag file and busy-wait until it no longer existed. BUT... this really isn't the solution we want to employ. It would really be nice if the OLE stuff into Exchange allowed me to choose a printer, but it doesn't. I am unable to find documentation on the "AVDocPrintPagesWithParams" method you suggested. It does not appear in the IAC docs on Adobe's dev site. Is this an undocumented OLE call? thanks. -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- Karl De Abrew wrote: > > I assume that printing to file alone "does not do the trick" as you wish > to convert a large number of files. > > You could write a small application [VB/Delphi/C++] which > prints-to-postscript and uses windows messages to fill in the dialog > that pops up [that is assuming you are on the windows platform]. It > wouldn't be the most elegant solution but it would work and wouldn't > cost you anything. > > Alternatively you could write a small plugin which recursed a directory > tree using the AVDocPrintPagesWithParams method. This allows you to > specify printing to file AND also the filename programmatically. > > regards, > > Karl De Abrew > karl@roundtable.com.au > Round Table Solutions - Join Acrobuddies today! > http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: olaf druemmer [mailto:callas@compuserve.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 12:58 AM > To: PDF listserver > Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? > > >Is there any way, or Adobe utility, that will convert a > >file in PDF format to postscript? Using the standard > >"Use a postscript printer and print to file' option is > >not going to work for us in this case, so what I really > >need is a little program to do it. > > Why wouldn't printing to file from Reader/Exchange do the trick for you? > > Olaf Druemmer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > Olaf Druemmer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 > Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect > +49.30.44342391 > D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 14:02:53-GMT,3015;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12350 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:02:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA24836; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:21:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:15:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24558; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:15:09 -0500 Message-ID: <35360464.9C079166@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:15:16 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <000101bd68c3$79a7e680$73f582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi Inston wrote: > > The only way a Mac will read resource forks directly from a medium is if a > Mac wrote them there. > > Or, that's my understanding. I'd love to be proved wrong, that Microsoft > and Apple have agreed a mapping of the MacOS filing system model onto > the Windows NT filing model. Standard mappings of HFS->x do exist: AppleSingle, AppleDouble, MacBinary, etc. This is something I've seen from the UNIX world. Also, there is obviously a similar mapping with PC Exchange. The program Ed mentioned shows how to, using Windows 95 only, copy the Acrobat Reader installer from a Macintosh CD-ROM to an HFS partition on a Jaz disk for mastering onto a Mac/ISO 9660 hybrid. It works by creating an EZ-CD ISO 9660 image, and then, as they put it, putting the HFS partition "around" the ISO 9660 data. So it hacks the image, in other words. However, this implementation would seem to preclude *sharing* data between the Mac partition and the ISO 9660 partition, as is done automatically with Toast. I finally got the page John Switzer posted to load, and this is a program that does indeed create ISO 9660 CD-Rs with Macintosh executables, Mac/ISO 9660 shared hybrids, and they even through Joliet (Windows NT extensions to ISO 9660) into the mix, enabling Mac/ISO 9660/Joliet shared hybrids. This package apparently depends on Mac files being prepared according to AUFS, which sets up resource forks in a .resource directory and type/creator signatures in a .finderinfo directory. I've typed and learned a lot but John really answered the question. It can be done. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 14:05:32-GMT,6206;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12468 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:05:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA25614; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:38:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:34:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25441; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:34:35 -0500 Message-ID: <35360AF2.2C3007E@lsijax.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:43:14 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E032019@ARTHUR> <3534E184.8D2CFB02@intranetsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Roy, So you can't change the default printer but since you're running on a Windows Platform, how about using the line command argument "/t". This works on both Reader and Exchange and will emulate the drag and drop of a pdf onto a printer icon. The full argument is " /t file1.pdf printerName driverName portName" ....just add this to either Reader or Exchange. For example, I used it with reader (sent from a VB routine as a 'shellExecute'): c:\acrobat3\reader\acrord32.exe /t "d:\doc2.pdf" "\\ATIMS\HP LaserJet 4v" "RASDD.DLL" "LPT1:" By using this command, you achieve a 'silent' print - no dialog boxes. Hope this helps Tracie DeVoe +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Roy J. Davis wrote: > The real reason I can't use the printing to a file solution is > because we have other servers running on the same NT box that > alter the "default printer" setting in windows, and you can't > print to a specific printer using the OLE call > "AVDoc.PrintPagesSilent(). That function only prints to the > windows default printer (whatever that happens to be set to). > I could set that, but there is a concurrency issue there > because > the other servers do the same type of thing. If I want to set > the > default printer to a postscript printer (which is using > distiller > and distiller assistant), I can't be assured that I'm not > stepping > on the other servers activities. Our solution for that problem > was to introduce some sort of flag file which would be created > by whichever process needed to mess with the default printer > setting, then deleted after it was done. The other process > would > then test for the existance of the flag file and busy-wait > until > it no longer existed. BUT... this really isn't the solution we > want to employ. It would really be nice if the OLE stuff into > Exchange allowed me to choose a printer, but it doesn't. I am > unable to find documentation on the "AVDocPrintPagesWithParams" > > method you suggested. It does not appear in the IAC docs on > Adobe's dev site. Is this an undocumented OLE call? > > thanks. > > -- > ------------------------- > Roy J. Davis > Software Engineer > IntraNet Solutions, Inc. > Eden Prairie, MN. > roy.davis@intranetsol.com > ------------------------- > > Karl De Abrew wrote: > > > > I assume that printing to file alone "does not do the trick" > as you wish > > to convert a large number of files. > > > > You could write a small application [VB/Delphi/C++] which > > prints-to-postscript and uses windows messages to fill in the > dialog > > that pops up [that is assuming you are on the windows > platform]. It > > wouldn't be the most elegant solution but it would work and > wouldn't > > cost you anything. > > > > Alternatively you could write a small plugin which recursed a > directory > > tree using the AVDocPrintPagesWithParams method. This allows > you to > > specify printing to file AND also the filename > programmatically. > > > > regards, > > > > Karl De Abrew > > karl@roundtable.com.au > > Round Table Solutions - Join Acrobuddies today! > > http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: olaf druemmer [mailto:callas@compuserve.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 12:58 AM > > To: PDF listserver > > Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? > > > > >Is there any way, or Adobe utility, that will convert a > > >file in PDF format to postscript? Using the standard > > >"Use a postscript printer and print to file' option is > > >not going to work for us in this case, so what I really > > >need is a little program to do it. > > > > Why wouldn't printing to file from Reader/Exchange do the > trick for you? > > > > Olaf Druemmer > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > - > > Olaf Druemmer > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > - > > callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo > +49.30.44390311 > > Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect > > +49.30.44342391 > > D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com > http://www.callas.de > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > - > > > + > -----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 14:54:35-GMT,1705;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13959 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:54:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA28246; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:29:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:27:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28109; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:27:10 -0500 Message-ID: <007401bd694c$d06a4ba0$0900a8c0@RANDALL> From: "Quickdraw" To: Subject: [PDF] Forms Selection Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:32:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a number of forms (50+) that are placed on top of each other, each are individually named. Is there a way that I can select a form by name? What I have to do now is move the forms out one by one until I get to the one I need to make changes to it (usually the icon). Any ideas? Randy Chamzuk Quick - Draw Inc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 14:55:04-GMT,2069;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13986 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:55:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA26704; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:01:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:58:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26500; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:58:49 -0500 Message-ID: <35360EA0.C1653139@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:58:56 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFWriter vs. Distiller and C++ coding. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Matthew Schneider wrote: > > > > Also, I have heard that there is a group out in the development community > > > that belives it is better to print the postscript and distill - instead > > > of using PDFWriter. This would be an alternative, but it introduces > > > > So depending on the nature of your source files, the Distiller/PDFWriter issue > > can be a small issue, a big issue, or anywhere in between. > > The files will be formatted text primarily - there will be no image > processing. It would be quicker to process to use PDFWriter - would > there still be compression issues with the text? No, PDFWriter can compress text. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 15:37:11-GMT,3118;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15454 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:37:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA29365; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:55:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:51:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29164; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:51:54 -0500 Message-Id: <35361B01.647FEB51@moen.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:51:45 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Distiller v3.01 and AutoRotation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I got the (very helpful) information below with regard to v3.0 autorotation by the distiller. Does anybody know offhand if this has changed any in v3.01. I really do need to move my distiller functionality from v2.1 to v3.01, and I want to know what may be involved and if the AutoRotation stuff still holds true. Thanks, Jennifer Amon On Jul 21, 12:43, Tom Thiersch wrote: > Subject: Re: [pdf-l] - Distiller v3 on NT > Jennifer, > > The "automatic" rotation of pages is one of the more annoying "features" of > Version 3. > > By default, V3 Distiller looks at your printed pages and decides, on its > own, what the "best" orientation should be. > > Changing this default behavior is an awkward process. Instead of making > this an option, controllable via a conventional Setup/Option/Preferences > type of switch, Adobe requires that you pass the following command to distiller: > > << /AutoRotatePages xxxxxxx >> setdistillerparams > > According to Mike Ossesia > > "The legal values for /AutoRotatePages are /All /None and /PageByPage > > /None turns AutoRotatePages off > /All rotates all the pages based on the predominant text orientation of the > whole document. > /PageByPage rotates each page based on the predominant text orientation on > that page. > " > > Adobe blew it on this one, IMHO. I hope it's better in 3.01 ! > > Tom Thiersch -- _______________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2000 ext. 2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _______________________________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 15:38:05-GMT,3908;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15476 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:38:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA30958; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:26:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:24:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30841; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:24:28 -0500 Message-ID: <353624B6.EC16484D@lsijax.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:33:10 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E032019@ARTHUR> <3534E184.8D2CFB02@intranetsol.com> <35360AF2.2C3007E@lsijax.com> <35361F0C.AD3CB8E1@intranetsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Roy, I always get confused by exactly what should be used for parameter 2, 3, and 4 so I'll quote from a message I received from Phil Ydens (Adobe) a long time ago...... ------------------------------ I would suggest that you temporarily modify the registry to see your commands. Here are the steps: 1) Go to the start menu->Run 2) Type regedit and return. I'm running on a Win NT 4 machine. This might be regedt32 for Win95. 3) Navigate to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AcroExch.Document\shell\printto\command 4) Edit the default entry. It should be a command line to acrobat with the parameters /t %1 %2 %3 %4. Modify this command line to the following: cmd /c echo /t %1 %2 %3 %4 >c:\log This will echo the command line parameters in the file called log on the root of the C drive. Then, drag a pdf file onto a printer. This should run that command. Look in the log file, and there you have your parameters. When I just tried this, I got the following in the log file: /t "C:\TEST.PDF" "HP LaserJet 6MP PS" "PSCRIPT.DLL" "LPT1:" ----------------------------- Good Luck, Tracie DeVoe Roy J. Davis wrote: > ok, this is great. This will solve all my problems. Now, one > question, > I need to tell it to print to this printer I have setup called > FDFCGI > whose port is "/DISTASST.PS" and whose driver is Distiller > 3.01. I > have no idea what to put for the 3rd parameter. You have > "RASDD.DLL" > which is associated with the "HP Laserjet 4V" from parameter 2. > > Anyone know what the dll is for Distiller? > > Also, is there documentation on the command line args for > acroexch32? > > thanks for everyones help with this! > > > Tracie K. DeVoe wrote: > > > > Hi Roy, > > > > So you can't change the default printer but since you're > > running on a Windows Platform, how about using the line > command > > argument "/t". This works on both Reader and Exchange and > will > > emulate the drag and drop of a pdf onto a printer icon. The > > > full argument is " /t file1.pdf printerName driverName > portName" > > ....just add this to either Reader or Exchange. For example, > I > > used it with reader (sent from a VB routine as a > 'shellExecute'): > > > > c:\acrobat3\reader\acrord32.exe /t "d:\doc2.pdf" "\\ATIMS\HP > > LaserJet 4v" "RASDD.DLL" "LPT1:" > > > > By using this command, you achieve a 'silent' print - no > dialog > > boxes. Hope this helps > > > > Tracie DeVoe +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 15:39:14-GMT,2190;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15524 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:39:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA31234; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:31:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:29:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31065; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:28:59 -0500 Message-ID: <011f01bd6955$717d0fc0$0900a8c0@RANDALL> From: "Randy Chamzuk" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms Selection Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:33:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sorry if I was not clear on my problem, These are Form buttons, that I am using for a mouse over, show & hide function. It creates a "pop up" look before the user selects the button, we update the image on the form buttons from time to time. On 16 Apr 98 at 8:32, Quickdraw wrote: > > I have a number of forms (50+) that are placed on top of each > other, > each > are individually named. Is there a way that I can select a form by > name? > > What I have to do now is move the forms out one by one until I get > to > the one I need to make changes to it (usually the icon). Any ideas? > > > Randy Chamzuk > Quick - Draw Inc. Just create a combo box. The user enters some key name "Form 38", then, using JavaScript, you can hide all the forms, then show the requested form field. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 15:42:43-GMT,5621;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15621 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:42:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA29989; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:07:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:05:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29875; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:05:12 -0500 Message-ID: <35361F0C.AD3CB8E1@intranetsol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:09:00 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E032019@ARTHUR> <3534E184.8D2CFB02@intranetsol.com> <35360AF2.2C3007E@lsijax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ok, this is great. This will solve all my problems. Now, one question, I need to tell it to print to this printer I have setup called FDFCGI whose port is "/DISTASST.PS" and whose driver is Distiller 3.01. I have no idea what to put for the 3rd parameter. You have "RASDD.DLL" which is associated with the "HP Laserjet 4V" from parameter 2. Anyone know what the dll is for Distiller? Also, is there documentation on the command line args for acroexch32? thanks for everyones help with this! -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- Tracie K. DeVoe wrote: > > Hi Roy, > > So you can't change the default printer but since you're > running on a Windows Platform, how about using the line command > argument "/t". This works on both Reader and Exchange and will > emulate the drag and drop of a pdf onto a printer icon. The > full argument is " /t file1.pdf printerName driverName portName" > ....just add this to either Reader or Exchange. For example, I > used it with reader (sent from a VB routine as a 'shellExecute'): > > c:\acrobat3\reader\acrord32.exe /t "d:\doc2.pdf" "\\ATIMS\HP > LaserJet 4v" "RASDD.DLL" "LPT1:" > > By using this command, you achieve a 'silent' print - no dialog > boxes. Hope this helps > > Tracie DeVoe > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Tracie DeVoe > Logistic Services International > 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 > Elizabeth City, NC 27909 > > PH#: (252) 335-6239 > FAX: (252) 335-6463 > email: tdevoe@lsijax.com > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Roy J. Davis wrote: > > > The real reason I can't use the printing to a file solution is > > because we have other servers running on the same NT box that > > alter the "default printer" setting in windows, and you can't > > print to a specific printer using the OLE call > > "AVDoc.PrintPagesSilent(). That function only prints to the > > windows default printer (whatever that happens to be set to). > > I could set that, but there is a concurrency issue there > > because > > the other servers do the same type of thing. If I want to set > > the > > default printer to a postscript printer (which is using > > distiller > > and distiller assistant), I can't be assured that I'm not > > stepping > > on the other servers activities. Our solution for that problem > > was to introduce some sort of flag file which would be created > > by whichever process needed to mess with the default printer > > setting, then deleted after it was done. The other process > > would > > then test for the existance of the flag file and busy-wait > > until > > it no longer existed. BUT... this really isn't the solution we > > want to employ. It would really be nice if the OLE stuff into > > Exchange allowed me to choose a printer, but it doesn't. I am > > unable to find documentation on the "AVDocPrintPagesWithParams" > > > > method you suggested. It does not appear in the IAC docs on > > Adobe's dev site. Is this an undocumented OLE call? > > > > thanks. > > > > -- > > ------------------------- > > Roy J. Davis > > Software Engineer > > IntraNet Solutions, Inc. > > Eden Prairie, MN. > > roy.davis@intranetsol.com > > ------------------------- > > > > Karl De Abrew wrote: > > > > > > I assume that printing to file alone "does not do the trick" > > as you wish > > > to convert a large number of files. > > > > > > You could write a small application [VB/Delphi/C++] which > > > prints-to-postscript and uses windows messages to fill in the > > dialog > > > that pops up [that is assuming you are on the windows > > platform]. It > > > wouldn't be the most elegant solution but it would work and > > wouldn't > > > cost you anything. > > > > > > Alternatively you could write a small plugin which recursed a > > directory > > > tree using the AVDocPrintPagesWithParams method. This allows > > you to > > > specify printing to file AND also the filename > > programmatically. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Karl De Abrew > > > karl@roundtable.com.au > > > Round Table Solutions - Join Acrobuddies today! > > > http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 15:47:36-GMT,3524;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15755 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:47:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA30214; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:12:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:10:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30093; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:10:14 -0500 Message-ID: <35362034.85229A5C@intranetsol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:13:56 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? References: <199804151058_MC2-39F3-C36E@compuserve.com> <3534E1D8.3E781C29@intranetsol.com> <19980416.082734.18430.2.RoyAustin@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I wish it were that simple! Here is my corrospondence with Adobe regarding that plug-in and OLE connectivity to it: ------------------------------------------------------ No, the ExportPS plug-in does not expose an OLE interface which would allow you to save a PS file via OLE. Using the Acrobat API to do this would require the development of a plug-in which uses AVDocPrintPagesWithParams. To do this with OLE would require setting up a default "printer" which is actually a PS driver set to print to file. You could then use the OLE methods to print to this "printer". Hope this helps. Thanks for developing with Adobe Acrobat. At 09:00 AM 4/13/98 -0500, Roy Davis wrote: >does the new "Export PS 1.2d Plug-in" have OLE support? In other >words, if I install it, can I then make an OLE call to Exchange >that will actually do a PS export? > >Thanks. > >-- >------------------------- >Roy J. Davis >Software Engineer >IntraNet Solutions, Inc. >Eden Prairie, MN. >roy.davis@intranetsol.com >------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------ What is the deal with the sub-par OLE support in Exchange? It is very frustrating to develop for. Are the developers in charge of it just lazy or what? -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- royaustin@juno.com wrote: > > If you're on Win95, just download the new plug-in from Adobe that allows > you to export to PS or EPS. > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 15:51:19-GMT,4312;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15863 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:51:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA31765; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:42:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:40:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31656; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:40:11 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03204C@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:37:54 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I could be wrong regarding this, but I believe you still need to work out a way of supplying the filename. I don't think the "/t" method gives you any way of passing the output filename on the command line. This brings you back to FindWindow and other Win32 Api functions to fill in the dialog. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Roy J. Davis [mailto:rdavis@intranetsol.com] Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 1:14 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? I wish it were that simple! Here is my corrospondence with Adobe regarding that plug-in and OLE connectivity to it: ------------------------------------------------------ No, the ExportPS plug-in does not expose an OLE interface which would allow you to save a PS file via OLE. Using the Acrobat API to do this would require the development of a plug-in which uses AVDocPrintPagesWithParams. To do this with OLE would require setting up a default "printer" which is actually a PS driver set to print to file. You could then use the OLE methods to print to this "printer". Hope this helps. Thanks for developing with Adobe Acrobat. At 09:00 AM 4/13/98 -0500, Roy Davis wrote: >does the new "Export PS 1.2d Plug-in" have OLE support? In other >words, if I install it, can I then make an OLE call to Exchange >that will actually do a PS export? > >Thanks. > >-- >------------------------- >Roy J. Davis >Software Engineer >IntraNet Solutions, Inc. >Eden Prairie, MN. >roy.davis@intranetsol.com >------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------ What is the deal with the sub-par OLE support in Exchange? It is very frustrating to develop for. Are the developers in charge of it just lazy or what? -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- royaustin@juno.com wrote: > > If you're on Win95, just download the new plug-in from Adobe that allows > you to export to PS or EPS. > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 15:51:57-GMT,2356;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15905 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:51:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA30527; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:17:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:15:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30378; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:15:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199804161515.LAA11297@dax.cc.uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:14:05 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms Selection In-reply-to: <007401bd694c$d06a4ba0$0900a8c0@RANDALL> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 16 Apr 98 at 8:32, Quickdraw wrote: > > I have a number of forms (50+) that are placed on top of each > other, > each > are individually named. Is there a way that I can select a form by > name? > > What I have to do now is move the forms out one by one until I get > to > the one I need to make changes to it (usually the icon). Any ideas? > > > Randy Chamzuk > Quick - Draw Inc. Just create a combo box. The user enters some key name "Form 38", then, using JavaScript, you can hide all the forms, then show the requested form field. Dr. D. P. 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An Algebra Review in 10 Lessons TeX to PDF http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 16:26:12-GMT,1765;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17115 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:26:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00052; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:59:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:55:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32602; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:55:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Porter To: "'PDFList'" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:55:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Has anyone run into a problem in IE 4.0 where you try to import FDF via the web, using submitForm("page.asp#FDF") and it returns the Acrobat Error "Cannot repair file." ? It works fin in Navigator 4.04 of course. Also, it doesn't happen with every FDF set I send to it. The only difference I can find is that maybe the larger sets cause the problem. Is there a size limit for FDF with IE 4? Any help would be greatly appreciated. robertporter { applications developer renaissance interactive robert@ricommunity.com } +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 16:50:39-GMT,2056;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18044 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:50:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01947; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:34:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:29:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01739; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:29:57 -0500 Message-ID: <35363416.89DC0FC8@lsijax.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:38:46 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03204C@ARTHUR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You're right Karl, the output file name needs to be put into the printer job info using the Win32 API - if you want to automate this and not have any user interaction. Otherwise, I suspect the Windows print dialog box will pop up and ask for the output file name??? Haven't tried this part. Tracie DeVoe Karl De Abrew wrote: > I could be wrong regarding this, but I believe you still need > to work > out a way of supplying the filename. I don't think the "/t" > method gives > you any way of passing the output filename on the command line. > > This brings you back to FindWindow and other Win32 Api > functions to fill > in the dialog. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 18:33:36-GMT,2691;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21700 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:33:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA05508; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:49:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:43:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05236; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:43:30 -0500 Subject: [PDF] pdfToolbox to the rescue! Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:44:27 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" , "PDF-Prepress Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1319395428-20889379@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I appreciate hearing about good experiences with products as I may also find them useful. So in that vein, I would like to share an experience with all of you. An advertiser sent me a PDF file containing only black text for a full page ad insertion in our magazine. My printer is not "up to speed" on PDF yet, but I sent it on to them to see if they could output (thinking it was a no-brainer). They said that it produced an error on their rip. I inspected the file with pdfInspektor and found that it had subsets of TT fonts and also showed a DeviceRGB colorspace. I don't know if either of these were the problem, but this seemed unusual to me. Anyway, I output ps three different ways: print to disk from exchange, PSExport and pdfOutput. My goal was to RIP with TransverterPro to a high-rez 1 bit tiff. Well, both the print to disk file and the PSExport file caused T-Pro to lock up during ripping. It was only the file output with pdfOutput that ripped completely and also turned out flawless. I don't know if there is a good reason for this or just dumb luck, but my impression of pdfToolbox is pretty high. Thanks to Olaf and company. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 18:36:50-GMT,11389;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21849 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:36:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA06000; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:00:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:56:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05791; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:56:33 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:00:24 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <18010434303322@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It seems that I stirred up quite a discussion with my original question and I have much that requires a response. I will combine that into a single message in order to keep down the traffic in this discussion group. That makes this posting a bit long. >From Dean Laffin: > It almost sounds as though you haven't bought Exchange? Can this be right? > there are two CD's with Exchange the second one (for Mac or PC) contains all > the installers for each platform. If you haven't bought Exchange, I suggest > you would find it almost mandatory to complete your project. If not you can > download the all the installers from the Adobe web site. That is correct. When I bought started the project, I budgeted for PageMaker and Photoshop but not Exchange. It can be difficult to tell in advance where your tools will fall short. I will look into Adobe Acrobat Exchange. > As I found out to my chagrin on our first Acrobat disc, if you 'allow > macintosh names" on the master then the files are rendered invisible to > Win3.x. i.e. the same disc will work fine in Win'95 but the install folders or > anything not 8.3 upper case etc. will not be visible to Win3.x, but the same > disc works fine on the Mac and Win'95 > > So Russell! if you need to go to Win3.x..... you need a hybrid. The customers I am most worried about are those without the sophistication or connections to acquire a free copy of Adobe Acrobat Reader. I think the Windows 3.X users out there have had systems for a while and few of them should fall into that category. It has also been quite a few years since 3.X was the current operating system. As Aandi Inston said, "A simpler alternative if this sounds painful is to buy copies of the Acrobat Reader CDROM. I understand it can be as little as $1.50 a copy in quantities of 100+." This is attractive, but if I have time, I would prefer the one disk solution and the education that comes with it. >From Aandi Inston: > Get the Reader CDROM. It also comes with Acrobat 3.0 (the > full product), which I'd kind of hope everyone working with > PDF and Adobe tools has a copy of... Now I am wiser, I did not realize that PM came with a subset. >From Cory Snavely: > It is believable to me (and I think Aandi, too) that even a non-hybrid ISO 9660 > could support Macintosh executables, BUT I bet only when mastered on a > Macintosh. The issue here is whether the mastering computer would have access > to the resource forks, thus making the executable, executable. Has anyone on > the list actually distributed a Macintosh executable on a CD-ROM mastered on a > PC? My CD-ROM burner claims hybrid disk support. It says it will create multi-session and multi-volume disks. My understanding is that hybrid is multi-volume and that means multi-session with sessions that are unrelated to each other. The documentation is not particularly clear, but I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that with some futzing and some testing, I can create a hybrid disk. This does not address making the files executable, which is a separate issue. Please tell me a little about resource forks. FWIW, I am also a programmer but not on Mac. Also, are they something that can be copied like a file, are they something that is embedded into the executable to mark it executable, or are they something to do with the file system (like marking things executable in UNIX)? > Now that I believe...but there is a difference between "ISO 9660" and "Mac/ISO > 9660 hybrid". So the discussion continues... Is this the HFS or is there more to it? > The program Ed mentioned shows how to, using Windows 95 only, copy the Acrobat > Reader installer from a Macintosh CD-ROM to an HFS partition on a Jaz disk for > mastering onto a Mac/ISO 9660 hybrid. It works by creating an EZ-CD ISO 9660 > image, and then, as they put it, putting the HFS partition "around" the ISO 9660 > data. So it hacks the image, in other words. However, this implementation > would seem to preclude *sharing* data between the Mac partition and the ISO 9660 > partition, as is done automatically with Toast. > > I finally got the page John Switzer posted to load, and this is a program that > does indeed create ISO 9660 CD-Rs with Macintosh executables, Mac/ISO 9660 > shared hybrids, and they even through Joliet (Windows NT extensions to ISO 9660) > into the mix, enabling Mac/ISO 9660/Joliet shared hybrids. This package > apparently depends on Mac files being prepared according to AUFS, which sets up > resource forks in a .resource directory and type/creator signatures in a > .finderinfo directory. > > I've typed and learned a lot but John really answered the question. It can be > done. Let me see if I understand this correctly, since I have only recently been learning about CD-ROM formats and this is my first time delving into Macintosh. I can download the BIN format Acrobat Reader from the Adobe site and use the software John referenced to write it from my PC to a CD-ROM (or at least create an image to write since I have not yet acquired the software John referenced). Correct? I do not understand the reference to AUFS. Also, will I be creating a plain ISO 9660 or a hybrid CD-ROM using the above process? It looks like you have a solution but I only partially understand it. This is a learning experience for me also. >From Deidre Paknad > We have NOT been able to master a hybrid CD without an actual Mac. > We tried, but to no avail ... resource forks, as you suggest. Moving > Mac files to the PC can also result in truncated file names. Am I correct that if I do not need to support Windows 3.X, then I do not need to truncate file names? >From Tommy Teague: > Our solution was to download from the Adobe Web site the BIN file which > contains the installation for the Macintosh. The BIN file does not need > to have its type recognized, and it does not matter what its name is, so > there is no issue in placing it onto an ISO-9660 CD-ROM. A Macintosh > user can copy this file to the system, extract the real executables > (which will at that point be recognized as valid executables!), and > proceed from there. This does impose some extra steps on the user, > including removing the intermediate files, but it works quite well. It seems you have accomplished one of the approaches that I am considering. However, my lack of Mac familiarity is a hindrance to understanding, especially with respect to particular file formats and what can be done with them. I will run through what I understood you to say, adding my own assumptions for verification or correction. You downloaded the Mac installation file from the Adobe web site to a PC. This file was a BIN file. The BIN file is a compressed format that contains whatever files, including programs, that are necessary to install Adobe Acrobat Reader on the Mac. You copied this file to an ISO-9660 CD-ROM using a conforming but arbitrary name. The file was then copied from CD-ROM to a Mac. Every Mac on the planet knows what to do with a BIN file so when opened, it expanded the contents into the appropriate files, some of which were marked executable. One of these was the installation program, that when opened, installed Adobe Acrobat Reader. Then you manually removed the BIN file and whatever it expanded into. I am a bit suspicious about the "Every Mac on the planet..." part of this since the Adobe site references a utility called Stuffit. If it is required, we are back to the problem of making it executable on the CD-ROM. >From Duff Johnson: > Even if it's basically a disc-burner, media-transfer station and > wierd-PDF-checker, I'll quote Glenn G. at Emerge and state that no shop > should be without a Mac. So... you want to do cross-platform without > one of the platforms, eh?? I do not care to engage in a religious war. You are proposing a prohibitively expensive solution. >From John Switzer > ... Then you make a hybrid CD that has two directories on it, an > ISO-9660 directory for everyone but Mac and an HFS directory for the > Mac. The HFS is what gives the proper file type and application IDs > so you can execute programs, etc. on the Mac. > > There is a program named mkhybrid out there that works on > Windows and Unix PCs that will create CDs with an HFS file system > so they'll work on Macs. I haven't used it, but from all I have > read about it, it does work. See: > > http://www.ps.ucl.ac.uk/~jcpearso/mkhybrid.html Ah, thanks for the explanation and for the URL. It appears that Cory Snavely has confirmed that this approach works. >From Ed Chase: > There is a Windows application for creating HFS/ISO hybrids available at: > http://www.macdisk.com/hybriden.htm > I've only used it in conjunction with Gear premastering software and only in Win95, > but it will create a real hybrid HFS/ISO CD in Windows. Thanks to you too for the URL. >From Dan Babcock: > Toast supports several ISO 9660 formats: > - ISO 9960 Level 1 that allows 8.3 filenames > - MS-DOS Names > - Mac Names > - Joliet (MS-DOS + Windows 95) > > On the Mac, all of these will show up as ISO 9660 filenames and directory > structure. My Windows 95 CD-ROM software appears to have these capabilities as well. > The Mac/ISO hybrid gives the disk the added ability of recognizes 3 > different file systems HFS (MacOS), ISO 9660, and Joliet (MS-DOS, Windows > 95). I always write ISO 9660 CDs in this format. My Windows 95 software has online documentation that discusses hybrid but not HFS. I assume I can create a separate file system, but I may have difficulty creating an HFS file system. Question for anyone: What is on the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM that is not in the free download files from the Adobe web site? Am I doing a disservice by providing the installation on one disk with the PDF file instead of providing the entire distribution CD-ROM for Acrobat Reader? Thanks to all of you for such enthusiastic exploration of this subject, for all of the experiments and for all the help. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 20:45:11-GMT,7321;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27003 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:45:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11574; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:58:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:53:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11234; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:53:31 -0500 Message-ID: <353661C5.718E5358@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:53:41 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <18010434303322@acmenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Russell Hansberry wrote: > > My CD-ROM burner claims hybrid disk support. It says it will create > multi-session and multi-volume disks. My understanding is that hybrid is > multi-volume and that means multi-session with sessions that are unrelated > to each other. The documentation is not particularly clear, but I assume > (perhaps incorrectly) that with some futzing and some testing, I can create > a hybrid disk. This does not address making the files executable, which is > a separate issue. Mac/ISO 9660 hybrid is *not* synonymous with multisession. Multisession has inconsistent support on various platforms, therefore I've always heard it is wise to stay away from it for cross-platform CDs. > Please tell me a little about resource forks. FWIW, I am also a programmer > but not on Mac. Also, are they something that can be copied like a file, > are they something that is embedded into the executable to mark it > executable, or are they something to do with the file system (like marking > things executable in UNIX)? Every Mac file has a data fork and a resource fork. The former contains data, and the latter contains shared resources, such as code for dialog boxes, etc. PDF files, and other documents, typically have resource forks of zero size. Executable programs typically have non-zero data and resource forks. It used to be cool when I was a kid to modify a program's resource fork to customize dialog boxes, error messages, etc. Then there is the signature, which contains 4 digits of file type and four digits of file creator. This is part of how a Mac knows what application to associate with a document, and is similar in function to the MIME types we know today, or to the Windows registry. I have shown that both data and resource forks and the signature are written to an ISO 9660 CD when mastered on a Mac using Toast. Others have posted examples of software packages for non-Mac computers that claim to do the same thing. > > Now *that* I believe...but there is a difference between "ISO 9660" and > > "Mac/ISO 9660 hybrid". So the discussion continues... > > Is this the HFS or is there more to it? Yes. ISO 9660 does not appear as HFS to a Mac; Mac/ISO 9660 hybrid (also referred to as HFS/ISO 9660 hybrid) does. > Let me see if I understand this correctly [...] > I can download the BIN format Acrobat Reader from the Adobe site and use > the software John referenced to write it from my PC to a CD-ROM (or at > least create an image to write since I have not yet acquired the software > John referenced). Correct? No. BIN stands for MacBinary, which is a special format that basically munges data and resource forks together in one file. The resulting (single) file is intended for transport, not direct execution. Hence it is a common format seen on ftp servers, but must be decoded before being used. > I do not understand the reference to AUFS. Also, will I be creating a plain > ISO 9660 or a hybrid CD-ROM using the above process? It looks like you have > a solution but I only partially understand it. AUFS, AppleDouble, and other schemes (such as whatever scheme it is that makes PC Exchange work) are all just ways of implementing the data/resource storage method on a non-Mac computer. For example, the mkhybrid web page alludes to CAPS, the venerable public-domain AppleTalk software for UNIX. Using CAPS, UNIX machines can serve HFS file systems. CAPS stores the resource forks according to AUFS, in which the resource fork for a file /data/mac/foo is simply stored in /data/mac/.resource/foo. I am convinced that you do not *need* to create a hybrid. It wouldn't *hurt*, though. Having a hybrid would essentially give you long file names. > From Tommy Teague: > > > Our solution was to download from the Adobe Web site the BIN file which > > contains the installation for the Macintosh. > > Every Mac on the planet knows what to do with a BIN file so when > opened, it expanded the contents into the appropriate files, some of which > were marked executable. [...] > > I am a bit suspicious about the "Every Mac on the planet..." part of this > since the Adobe site references a utility called Stuffit. If it is > required, we are back to the problem of making it executable on the CD-ROM. I believe this analysis is correct. To my knowledge, the MacBinary file must be decoded. > From John Switzer > > > There is a program named mkhybrid out there that works on > > Windows and Unix PCs that will create CDs with an HFS file system > > so they'll work on Macs. I haven't used it, but from all I have > > read about it, it does work. See: > > > > http://www.ps.ucl.ac.uk/~jcpearso/mkhybrid.html > > Ah, thanks for the explanation and for the URL. It appears that Cory > Snavely has confirmed that this approach works. Actually, I didn't...but I believe it certainly should. > My Windows 95 software has online documentation that discusses hybrid but > not HFS. I assume I can create a separate file system, but I may have > difficulty creating an HFS file system. Hybrid, as you now know, can mean a lot of things. Since your system does not mention HFS or Mac, I suspect that by hybrid they are referring to what I would call "Joliet/ISO 9660 shared hybrid", or in other words a CD with both long Windows filenames and DOS 8.3 filenames, but with only one copy of the data for each file. I do not know for sure if such a beast really exists. If not, though, I'm not sure what they are referring to when they say hybrid. > What is on the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM that is not in the free download > files from the Adobe web site? Am I doing a disservice by providing the > installation on one disk with the PDF file instead of providing the entire > distribution CD-ROM for Acrobat Reader? There is no difference that I know of, other than that the versions on the web are typically updated more frequently. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 20:47:42-GMT,3236;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27069 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:47:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12799; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:17:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:13:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12442; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:13:28 -0500 Message-ID: <35366751.73DF2771@intranetsol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:17:21 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03204C@ARTHUR> <35363416.89DC0FC8@lsijax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ahhhh... except that is you set up a printer definition to have it's port be a file, then it goes to that file... and, if you use distiller as the driver, and have distiller assistant going, then it will convert the resulting ps -> pdf for you and give it the name of the original file. If you are now asking, why did you want to pdf->ps if distiller assistant is just going to ps->pdf right away, the answer is that I must check the resulting pdf into our doc management system IntraDoc, and it can't be an "active" form, it had to be the static version with all the data in it from the fdf. So, by printing it to ps, then converting it back, the form becomes static. whew. Tracie K. DeVoe wrote: > > You're right Karl, the output file name needs to be put into the > printer job info using the Win32 API - if you want to automate > this and not have any user interaction. Otherwise, I suspect the > Windows print dialog box will pop up and ask for the output file > name??? Haven't tried this part. > > Tracie DeVoe > > Karl De Abrew wrote: > > > I could be wrong regarding this, but I believe you still need > > to work > > out a way of supplying the filename. I don't think the "/t" > > method gives > > you any way of passing the output filename on the command line. > > > > This brings you back to FindWindow and other Win32 Api > > functions to fill > > in the dialog. > > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 20:47:57-GMT,1417;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27077 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:47:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12155; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:08:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:04:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11920; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:04:51 -0500 X-Sender: laufer@139.82.16.3 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:05:00 -0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Laufer Subject: [PDF] Converting .doc to pdf Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hi people, I would like to convert a .doc file to a pdf file (using PDFWriter), but I want to do this within a program, without interaction. Can anybody help me? greetings, laufer +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 21:52:09-GMT,6765;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00514 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:52:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA14690; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:49:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:45:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14471; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:45:56 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:45:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bd6978$8d3b2ee0$8df582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <18010434303322@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Please tell me a little about resource forks. FWIW, I am also > a programmer > but not on Mac. Also, are they something that can be copied > like a file, > are they something that is embedded into the executable to mark it > executable, or are they something to do with the file system > (like marking > things executable in UNIX)? A resource fork is part of a file, and at the same time not. Here goes. Disclaimer: I'm not totally immersed in the Mac world and some of this is probably wrong. Each Macintosh file has two parts, a data fork and a resource fork. They can be written and read separately. Many "simple" files have no resource forks. For instance, a PDF file or text file have only data forks. Sometimes the resource fork can be dropped gracefully. For instance, a formatted text file has the formatting in the resource fork and text in the data fork. Drop the resource fork and it becomes unformatted text. Executables have essential information in both forks. Now, on a Mac the filing system simply has two parts for each file; no problem. When the Mac uses a non-native filing system this gets emulated. Write a PC format floppy on a Mac and you will see a folder resource.frk appear. This has stuff in, but the format is, so far as I know (a) proprietary (b) not portable to other filesystem types. Networks have their own approach, and some provide "native" MacOS support. That is, the Mac thinks it is talking to another Mac, so it writes to data and resource forks separately. The server manages these, often in two separate files. I have used three Unix based Mac file sharing solutions. In all cases a file xxx would have a data fork xxx and a resource fork .rsrc/xxx. But all three had incompatible resource fork formats. All the systems I have seen - disk and network based - work on the principle that an "alien" file, that is one with a single part only, has only a data fork. This works just fine for some types of file. [Irrelevant note: mac EPS files contain PostScript code in their data forks, and the preview in the resource fork. This is why PC programs can NEVER show the preview from a Macintosh EPS file - the resource fork does not exist so far as the PC is concerned] There are other alternatives to emulating two forks. For instance, MacBinary is a file format which holds both forks in one file. Interesting, but of limited use in this case because the Mac won't treat these as native files - they need to be unpacked into Mac files before use. (Or rather, it sees them as files containing only a data fork). This format is nevertheless very useful for inter-system transfer. I suspect the .BIN format found on the web may be MacBinary. [Files mailed from a Mac are often in MacBinary format. Great for a Mac, but the header and embedded resource data confuses a PC receiving the file. This leads to many confused users, who have been misled into believing that e-mail file transfers are "magic" and therefore their applications are broken if they can't read the received file.] Moving on, that isn't the end of the story. Each Macintosh file also has a "creator" and "type" field, both four ASCII characters. These are not stored in either the data or resource fork, but in the "finder info" for the file. Think of it as part of the filesystem catalog, if you like - information stored about a file, just like its name, size and creation date. These serve important roles. When you double click on a Mac file, then the disk (yes, the entire disk) is searched for a file with type "APPL" and the same creator. This is started and invited to open the file. Any Mac file of type APPL is a program, and you can't execute any other type of file (except by changing its type). [The Mac program RESEDIT allows the type and creator to be changed, and it, or something similar, is an essential tool for any sophisticated Mac user.] [The Windows equivalent of both of these concepts is the file type. Windows knows what to do with a .EXE file, and if you double click on a .DOC .TXT or .PDF file, the windows registry is consulted to see what program to run. In the Macintosh world, simply having a program on disk, even CDROM, is enough for the association to take hold; this is one of many reasons why Windows programs tend to need installers] So, an "alien" file (e.g. one on a PC format disk or CDROM) has no type or creator fields. Some Mac software (PC Exchange?) now comes to the rescue and allows some sort of automatic typing, but I don't think the support is sophisticated enough to make a file seem to be an executable, and even if it was, this is up to the user to configure it right. Another important thing for macs is the "desktop file". This is sort of a permanent cache, and exists on properly built CDROMs too. It helps out when looking for an APPL file, for instance, and defines which folders are open on the desktop. You'll find a desktop file being created on PC format floppies mounted on a Mac. These seem a little limited on alien disks e.g. a PC format diskette won't mount with an open folder. This probably hasn't helped, but perhaps it has highlighted some of the complexities, and why "if you want to cut a disk with Mac executables, use a Mac" is a good rule of thumb. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 21:52:11-GMT,1529;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00520 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:52:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA14772; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:50:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:48:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14616; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:48:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980416134740.0056d8d0@axe.humboldt.edu> X-Sender: cea7002@axe.humboldt.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:47:40 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ed Albert Subject: [PDF] BMIn/BMOut Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Looking to correspond with anyone who is using BMIn/BMOut from BVA MYFRA. Lotsa questions. Ed Out the 10-Base-T, through the router, down the T-1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall... nothin' but net! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 21:52:47-GMT,2999;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00537 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:52:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA14804; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:51:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:48:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14655; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:48:52 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:48:39 -0400 From: "Jack Petrisin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for April-15-98 [V2 #195] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA14652 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I also use a Mac and Toast to create ISO9660 CD-ROMs which we then distribute to a Windows audience. We include both the Windows and Mac versions of the Acrobat Reader installers. For the Mac version, we use Stuffit to create a self-extracting archive of the Reader installer, along with a small README file that describes the process of copying the .SEA file from the CD to your hard drive, double-clicking, etc. This small extra step of creating a self-extracting archive enables the resulting archive to retain the resource fork information, regardless of where the file goes. This process would enable groups that have Macs that aren't connected to CD-Rs to record ISO9660 CDs with a usable Mac installer. However, w/CD-Rs so inexpensive, and excellent pre-mastering software like Toast, I'd much rather record CD-Rs on a Mac; they tend to be much more stable and reliable. Just my .02. >I just walked back and wrote an ISO 9660 CD image (*not* a hybrid!) using >Toast >on a Mac. My image had one executable (Acrobat Reader, in fact) and one PDF >file. Then, I binhexed each file on the image. binhex told me that both >files >had the correct type and creator preserved, and moreover the executable had >non-zero resource fork size, and it runs just fine. > >Therefore, I now wholeheartedly believe that Macintosh executables can indeed >exist on plain ISO 9660 CDs without going hybrid. This only makes sense, >if you >think about it, because ISO 9660 existed before Mac/ISO 9660 hybrid, and ISO >9660 wouldn't have been much use if it couldn't support Macintosh executables, >right? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 21:53:02-GMT,1793;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00547 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:53:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA16299; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:15:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:11:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15958; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:11:26 -0500 From: jrb@artimex.com Message-Id: <199804162111.QAA18939@newton.pconline.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:15:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? In-reply-to: <19980416.082734.18430.2.RoyAustin@juno.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] And did you know that Juno is the source for much of the SPAM on the net? Robert J. Brashear Technical Services Manager The One-Off CD Shop Minneapolis +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 21:53:18-GMT,2906;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00567 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:53:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA16300; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:15:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:11:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15982; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:11:37 -0500 Message-ID: <35367487.239A@document-solutions.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:13:43 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <18010434303322@acmenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Russell Hansberry wrote: > > It seems that I stirred up quite a discussion with my original question... .... > >From Duff Johnson: > > > Even if it's basically a disc-burner, media-transfer station and > > wierd-PDF-checker, I'll quote Glenn G. at Emerge and state that no shop > > should be without a Mac. So... you want to do cross-platform without > > one of the platforms, eh?? > > I do not care to engage in a religious war. You are proposing a > prohibitively expensive solution. Not to focus on my own 2 cents worth in this long thread -- but I mean it! If you are trying to author cross-platform CDs without a way to test the Mac side of "cross-platform", you are going to get in a lot more trouble than the price of a Mac. You may be assuming that PDFs work identically on both platforms -- that would be an INcorrect assumption. There's not much difference -- but there's some. You may be assuming that your PC-authored PDF files will automatically reveal themselves as PDFs on a Mac.... and THAT would be an incorrect assumption as well. (They need to be typed in order for the Mac to show a PDF icon for the file). The short version is: Buy a Mac. It's the only reliable way to go. (Spoken as one who (a) loathes Macs, and (b) runs a Windows shop) -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Apr-1998 23:52:37-GMT,2601;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04572 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:52:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA21787; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:33:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:27:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21608; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:27:49 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <007401bd694c$d06a4ba0$0900a8c0@RANDALL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:48:56 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms Selection Cc: "Quickdraw" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Randy, I guess you are talking of form _fields_ in your form. As far as I have seen, there is no direct way to directly access a field by its name. However, you can tab through them. It does help when you have a list of the field names, as they are stacked on each other. One way to get them would be looking at the PDF file in a text editor. You will find one object where the order of the placed annotations is given (by their references). Then, you find these numbers, and you will have the field names. Now, when you are adventurous, you can change the order of the references. Maybe it is a good idea to do this on a copy of the original file. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _____________ > I have a number of forms (50+) that are placed on top of each other, >each >are individually named. Is there a way that I can select a form by name? > > What I have to do now is move the forms out one by one until I get to >the one I need to make changes to it (usually the icon). Any ideas? > > >Randy Chamzuk >Quick - Draw Inc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 7:28:36-GMT,2869;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00712 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:28:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA04069; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:56:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:53:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA03904; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:52:59 -0500 Message-Id: <9804170653.AA06018@pcrw11.wiwi.uni-regensburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Image-Url: http://www-wi.uni-regensburg.de/~row01458/wolfgang-icon.tiff X-Face: .Ap+Z`I,RA9o3)"UCIz5<#.miUqM<-$Aj$`sM8\.u&)/bGLRRHL0ic/O5k#9'"s2;[`(M; hwx%fB[b:a%T/mg-#O8U|,RW3M'2@yK2C0=hl4*_N:gQ!ssMRYE!*QMxGat+eL}`sdH.;( tvnPfqXHc>DhyO In-Reply-To: <35366751.73DF2771@intranetsol.com> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.1) From: Wolfgang Roeckelein Date: Fri, 17 Apr 98 08:53:07 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03204C@ARTHUR> <35363416.89DC0FC8@lsijax.com> <35366751.73DF2771@intranetsol.com> X-Url: http://www-wi.uni-regensburg.de/~row01458/ Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, one from this recently suggested using the new Adobe Exchange plugin. When using it to export eps, the resulting EPS File is not correct, when printing it via FrameMaker, I get the error=20 "PostScript Lang. Ref.Man., 2nd Ed., H.2.4 says EPS must not call = setglobal" Just wanted to let you all know that this plugin has still its problems... PS Does one know a email at adobe to forward this error? =20 Wolfgang --- Dipl.-Wirtsch.Inf. Voice: +49 941 943 3205 Wolfgang R=F6ckelein Fax: +49 941 943 3211 Uni Regensburg E-Mail: wolfgang.roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de Universit=E4tsstr. 31 (MIME and NeXTmail ok) D-93053 Regensburg WWW: http://www-wi.uni-regensburg.de/~row01458/ Germany Talk: row01458@pcrw11.uni-regensburg.de GCM/B d-- s: a- C++ US+++$ UX+++ P+ L E? W++ N++ w-- O-(++) M+ !V PS++ PE = Y+ PGP(++) t+ 5? X? R+ tv b++ DI D++ G e+++>++++ h+ r y? (Geek Code V3.x) F=FCr den BND: Plutonium RAF Pullach Waffe PGP Geheim Munition Kanther = Kurde Sex = +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 8:06:57-GMT,2320;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA06703 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:06:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA05785; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:44:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:40:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA05628; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:40:42 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD69E4.DCE2C130.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:25:49 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, April 16, 1998 9:54 PM, Cory Snavely [SMTP:snavely@beacon.com] wrote: > > > >Russell Hansberry wrote: >> > > My Windows 95 software has online documentation that discusses hybrid but > > not HFS. I assume I can create a separate file system, but I may have > > difficulty creating an HFS file system. > > Hybrid, as you now know, can mean a lot of things. Since your system does not > mention HFS or Mac, I suspect that by hybrid they are referring to what I would > call "Joliet/ISO 9660 shared hybrid", or in other words a CD with both long > Windows filenames and DOS 8.3 filenames, but with only one copy of the data for > each file. I do not know for sure if such a beast really exists. If not, > though, I'm not sure what they are referring to when they say hybrid. To my knowledge, every Joliet disk can be read under plain DOS. At least I can read all of which a friend of mine burned for me. File names are truncated to 8.3 of course. Jernej +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 8:07:53-GMT,10457;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA06775 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:07:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA05544; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:38:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:35:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA05457; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:35:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000301bd69d3$5196dfa0$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: "Nic Plum" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:50:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Just to build on what Aandi said (not bad for a non - Mac buff!):- 1) the resource fork on a Mac file can hold useful stuff like menu or other "resource" information relating to the application in question 2) on a Mac you never see the separate forks, desktop folder etc - it's transparent to the user - unless you use a low level editor e.g. Norton Utilities for the Mac or ResEdit etc. These things only show up on a PC formatted disk which has been read by a Mac and then viewed afterwards on a PC. 3) PC Exchange, which emulates the 2 forks and allows the Mac to read (and format) PC disks is a standard extension to the Mac operating system from System 7 onwards (before this under System 6 there used to be a utility called Apple File Exchange). On the Mac you can effectively set up additional "associations" (to use PC terminology) to, say, associate *.PDF with Acrobat Reader. In doing this manually you set the application and file type. 4) .bin files are in indeed in the Mac world MacBinary files. They aren't executable in this format and need to be decoded first into either a document or an application using a utility such as the freeware Stuffit Expander (for Mac or Windows) - see www.aladdinsys.com . The advantage of MacBinary is that it can be transferred without losing the embedded resource fork and it is smaller than the other commonly used BinHex (*.hqx) format which as a text file incurs about an extra 20% overhead in file size. 5) The Mac File type and creator allows documents produced by different versions of an application to co-exist with different properties and icons. This allows me to have visibly different files for Word 5, 6 and '98 documents. It is then has the sense to open the right version of Word - try this using the registry on Windows '95 where there is a single mapping or where predatory programs like MS Office overwrite previous associations. 6) The problems occur on a CD ROM because it is read-only. On a magnetic medium which can be written to PC Exchange will often overcome problems of missing resource forks. On a CD ROM it can't do this and then the poor Mac user sees generic icons which aren't associated with any application which then can't automatically be opened by double-clicking. 7) All volumes (disks etc) have an invisible (to the Mac user) desktop folder that is a local database file and maps icons etc onto applications. I believe this gets added to potentially every time a volume is mounted - it can get unwieldy and cause problems ( but can be "re-built" by using the CMD OPTION key combination on mounting the volume). Does this qualify me for an honorary anorak?! Nic _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 16 April 1998 22:59 Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac > >> Please tell me a little about resource forks. FWIW, I am also >> a programmer >> but not on Mac. Also, are they something that can be copied >> like a file, >> are they something that is embedded into the executable to mark it >> executable, or are they something to do with the file system >> (like marking >> things executable in UNIX)? > >A resource fork is part of a file, and at the same time not. > >Here goes. Disclaimer: I'm not totally immersed in the Mac world >and some of this is probably wrong. > > >Each Macintosh file has two parts, a data fork and a resource >fork. They can be written and read separately. > >Many "simple" files have no resource forks. For instance, a >PDF file or text file have only data forks. > >Sometimes the resource fork can be dropped gracefully. For instance, >a formatted text file has the formatting in the resource fork >and text in the data fork. Drop the resource fork and it becomes >unformatted text. > >Executables have essential information in both forks. > > >Now, on a Mac the filing system simply has two parts for each file; >no problem. When the Mac uses a non-native filing system this >gets emulated. Write a PC format floppy on a Mac and you will see >a folder resource.frk appear. This has stuff in, but the format is, >so far as I know (a) proprietary (b) not portable to other filesystem >types. > >Networks have their own approach, and some provide "native" MacOS >support. That is, the Mac thinks it is talking to another Mac, so >it writes to data and resource forks separately. The server manages >these, often in two separate files. I have used three Unix based >Mac file sharing solutions. In all cases a file xxx would have a >data fork xxx and a resource fork .rsrc/xxx. But all three had incompatible >resource fork formats. > >All the systems I have seen - disk and network based - work on the >principle that an "alien" file, that is one with a single part only, >has only a data fork. This works just fine for some types of file. > >[Irrelevant note: mac EPS files contain PostScript code in their data >forks, and the preview in the resource fork. This is why PC programs >can NEVER show the preview from a Macintosh EPS file - the resource >fork does not exist so far as the PC is concerned] > > >There are other alternatives to emulating two forks. For instance, MacBinary >is a file format which holds both forks in one file. Interesting, but >of limited use in this case because the Mac won't treat these as native >files - they need to be unpacked into Mac files before use. (Or rather, it >sees them as files containing only a data fork). This format is >nevertheless >very useful for inter-system transfer. I suspect the .BIN format found on >the web may be MacBinary. > >[Files mailed from a Mac are often in MacBinary format. Great for a Mac, but >the header and embedded resource data confuses a PC receiving the file. This >leads >to many confused users, who have been misled into believing that e-mail file >transfers are "magic" and therefore their applications are broken if they >can't read the received file.] > > > >Moving on, that isn't the end of the story. Each Macintosh file also >has a "creator" and "type" field, both four ASCII characters. These >are not stored in either the data or resource fork, but in the "finder >info" for the file. Think of it as part of the filesystem catalog, if you >like - information stored about a file, just like its name, size and >creation date. > >These serve important roles. When you double click on a Mac file, then >the disk (yes, the entire disk) is searched for a file with type "APPL" >and the same creator. This is started and invited to open the file. >Any Mac file of type APPL is a program, and you can't execute any other >type of file (except by changing its type). [The Mac program RESEDIT >allows the type and creator to be changed, and it, or something similar, >is an essential tool for any sophisticated Mac user.] > >[The Windows equivalent of both of these concepts is the file type. >Windows knows what to do with a .EXE file, and if you double click on >a .DOC .TXT or .PDF file, the windows registry is consulted to see what >program to run. In the Macintosh world, simply having a program on >disk, even CDROM, is enough for the association to take hold; this is >one of many reasons why Windows programs tend to need installers] > >So, an "alien" file (e.g. one on a PC format disk or CDROM) has no type >or creator fields. Some Mac software (PC Exchange?) now comes to the >rescue and allows some sort of automatic typing, but I don't think the >support is sophisticated enough to make a file seem to be an executable, >and even if it was, this is up to the user to configure it right. > > >Another important thing for macs is the "desktop file". This is sort of >a permanent cache, and exists on properly built CDROMs too. It helps out >when looking for an APPL file, for instance, and defines which folders are >open on the desktop. You'll find a desktop file being created on PC >format floppies mounted on a Mac. These seem a little limited on alien >disks e.g. a PC format diskette won't mount with an open folder. > > >This probably hasn't helped, but perhaps it has highlighted some of the >complexities, and why "if you want to cut a disk with Mac executables, >use a Mac" is a good rule of thumb. > >Aandi > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 8:42:47-GMT,2129;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07740 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:42:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA07097; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:25:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:21:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06956; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:20:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf -> ps conversion program? Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:15:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd69d9$a69d7a80$06f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9804170653.AA06018@pcrw11.wiwi.uni-regensburg.de> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > When using it to export eps, the resulting EPS File is not correct, > when printing it via FrameMaker, I get the error > "PostScript Lang. Ref.Man., 2nd Ed., H.2.4 says EPS must not call setglobal" > Just wanted to let you all know that this plugin has still its problems... Actually, Frame is at fault. It used to be debatable - Frame simply verified the rules of EPS, though in this case no harm was done. Adobe have now changed the rules of EPS - setglobal IS allowed. Frame 5.5 seems to have abandoned its role of policing the contents of EPS files, at least in the Windows version. So your fix is to upgrade Frame. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 14:24:55-GMT,3317;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15831 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA18259; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:07:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:59:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17881; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:59:15 -0500 Message-ID: <011e01bd6a09$e30a60c0$ed0c0bc6@focusmelanson> From: "Rick Melanson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] HTML 3.2 Reference in PDF File? Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:39:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Good morning, did anyone respond to your question below. If so would it be possible for you to share what they said, I am also in search of this type of information. Thank you Rick Melanson Micrion Corp. Sr. Technical Writer rmelanso@micrion.com -----Original Message----- From: Hedley Finger To: millercs@earthlink.net Cc: Acrobat Posts ; PDF Posts Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 9:14 AM Subject: [PDF] HTML 3.2 Reference in PDF File? > > >Can anyone point me to an HTML 3.2 reference, please? It needs to have a >table of Contents, an Index, and cross-references between related tags. >That way I can use it as on-line help or print out a book with page >numbers, running heads, etc. So an Acrobat PDF file would fill the bill. > >There are a number of Web sites that document HTML 3.2 tags but they are >all collections of Web pages. I need a compact guide that gives the usage >of each tag and compatibility with various versions of Navigator and >Internet Explorer. > >Regards, >Hedley > > > >====================================================================== > >Hedley Finger > User documentation and publishing consultant > Adobe(R) Certified Expert, FrameMaker 5.5 > >Hand Holding Projects Pty Ltd ACN 007 418 153 > 28 Regent Street Burwood VIC 3125 Australia > *** NOTE CHANGED NUMBERS *** > Tel* +61 3 9809 1229 Fax* +61 3 9809 1326 Mobile* +61 412 461 558 > E-mail hfinger@handholding.com.au > * Replace `+61 ' with `0' (zero) when dialling nationally. > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 16:41:34-GMT,1632;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20504 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:41:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA24954; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:32:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:27:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24693; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:26:58 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD69FB.D3D4FA60@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Multi-page PDF to Illustrator EPS Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:24:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA24690 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Friends, I have a need to create Illustrator EPS files (one-page per file) from a multi-page (greater than 100 pages) PDF files. I know I can open up a single page at a time in Illustrator and save it out as an eps file, but is there an easier way? Thanks. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 16:05:06-GMT,2436;000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19117; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:05:05 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA29582; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:05:06 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:05:06 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: HTML 3.2 Reference Message-ID: >> From: Hedley Finger >> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 9:14 AM >> Subject: [PDF] HTML 3.2 Reference in PDF File? >> >> Can anyone point me to an HTML 3.2 reference, please? It needs to have a >> table of Contents, an Index, and cross-references between related tags. Take a look at the documentation in my HTML prettyprinter; it has an extensive cross-reference of all known HTML tags from versions 0 to 4, plus all known vendor extensions of the tag set. You can start at http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/html-pretty-09.html#HDR.9 to get directly to the tag list. If you prefer a complete printed typeset document, go to http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/index.html#html-sgml-tools and grab the source distribution file for the latest version (currently, 1.00). It contains PostScript and PDF versions of the documentation. The cross-references for all grammar levels were generated by a computer program, so I'm pretty confident of their correctness. Still, bug reports are always welcome. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Apr-1998 16:26:56-GMT,3079;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19848 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:26:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23927; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:11:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:04:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23631; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:04:46 -0500 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:05:06 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: [PDF] Re: HTML 3.2 Reference Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> From: Hedley Finger >> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 9:14 AM >> Subject: [PDF] HTML 3.2 Reference in PDF File? >> >> Can anyone point me to an HTML 3.2 reference, please? It needs to have a >> table of Contents, an Index, and cross-references between related tags. Take a look at the documentation in my HTML prettyprinter; it has an extensive cross-reference of all known HTML tags from versions 0 to 4, plus all known vendor extensions of the tag set. You can start at http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/html-pretty-09.html#HDR.9 to get directly to the tag list. If you prefer a complete printed typeset document, go to http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/index.html#html-sgml-tools and grab the source distribution file for the latest version (currently, 1.00). It contains PostScript and PDF versions of the documentation. The cross-references for all grammar levels were generated by a computer program, so I'm pretty confident of their correctness. Still, bug reports are always welcome. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 17:37:26-GMT,2410;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22670 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:37:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26965; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:21:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:17:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26769; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:17:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Multi-page PDF to Illustrator EPS Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:18:37 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1319310580-3253373@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dae-Hee Lee (dhlee@marylandcomp.com) wrote on 4/17/98 9:24 AM: >I have a need to create Illustrator EPS files (one-page per file) from a >multi-page (greater than 100 pages) PDF files. I know I can open up a >single page at a time in Illustrator and save it out as an eps file, but >is there an easier way? Thanks. I know there is at least one 3rd party Exchange plugin that allows you to save out individual pages of multi page PDFs in a batch fashion (I'm sorry, I don't remember a name for you). But after that I would use a batch capable desktop RIP, like TransverterPro . With this you could set up to batch rip all the files at once, then go to lunch. You also get many other output file types to choose from. The other option I think will be pdfToolbox 1.1 (not yet released). I think this version will have batch EPS exporting from multi page PDF files. So you can get where you want with only one step. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 17:43:36-GMT,1782;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22900 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:43:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA27435; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:32:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:29:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27311; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:29:40 -0500 From: "David M. Davisson" To: "Pdf@Lists. Pdfzone. Com" Subject: [PDF] Windows Export to PS and EPS Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:29:03 -0700 Message-ID: <000501bd6a26$51339b40$a2456cc7@shadow.pfp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To all, I keep reading references in the list to a new plugin to export PDF to Postscript or EPS from Windows available for download. I have looked at the Adobe site for this, but can't find it. Can someone point me in the right direction? David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 18:19:02-GMT,1916;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24240 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:19:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28744; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:05:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:02:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28645; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:02:50 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Windows Export to PS and EPS Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:01:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd6a2a$f2cf8960$67f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000501bd6a26$51339b40$a2456cc7@shadow.pfp.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > I keep reading references in the list to a new plugin to export PDF to > Postscript or EPS from Windows available for download. I > have looked at the > Adobe site for this, but can't find it. Can someone point me > in the right > direction? Try the "this month's new downloads" page http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/new.htm. Unfortunately the Acrobat pages haven't caught up with this. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 18:19:04-GMT,2115;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24246 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:19:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28633; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:02:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:59:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28477; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:59:53 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:57:32 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] HTML 3.2 Reference in PDF File? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Can anyone point me to an HTML 3.2 reference, please? In addition to the sites I listed a few days ago, the Web Design Group may have what you're looking for with v. 3.2 ---> http://www.htmlhelp.com/distribution/ rgds ~ Kurt ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - => PDF lists: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html => Emerge EXTRA: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars -30- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 18:26:34-GMT,2391;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24524 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:26:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29344; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:19:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:16:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29212; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:16:30 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6A0B.21F794A0@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: FW: [PDF] Windows Export to PS and EPS Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:14:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA29208 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Friends, To add a different twist to David's question (and I haven't been able to locate the plug-in either), how does this plug-in handle going from multi-page PDF files to TIF, PCX, EPS, WMF, etc.? Thanks. Dae-Hee Lee ---------- From: David M. Davisson [SMTP:davisson@emuni.com] Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 1:29 PM To: Pdf@Lists. Pdfzone. Com Subject: [PDF] Windows Export to PS and EPS To all, I keep reading references in the list to a new plugin to export PDF to Postscript or EPS from Windows available for download. I have looked at the Adobe site for this, but can't find it. Can someone point me in the right direction? David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ * PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + * Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 18:40:27-GMT,2027;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25036 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:40:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29988; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:31:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:28:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29770; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:28:14 -0500 X-Sender: osa\fharri\fharris@mail.osa.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:44:56 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: fharri@osa.org (Frank Harris) Subject: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM Cc: fharri@osa.org Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear PDFers, I'm building a CD-ROM with about 100 PDF files and 40 movies. Everything works fine on the Mac, where the CD was burned, but under Windows 95 Acrobat is having trouble finding the movies. Reader reports, "Cannot Initialize Quicktime. Check your QuickTime installation." and then a second message appears: "/F/video/235.mov" cannot be found. Would you like to browse for a replacement file? -- Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org 2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org ------------------------- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 18:51:46-GMT,1809;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25400 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:51:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA30345; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:37:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:35:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA30255; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:35:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Windows Export to PS and EPS Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:34:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd6a2f$79f8d640$67f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01BD6A0B.21F794A0@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > To add a different twist to David's question (and I haven't > been able to locate the plug-in either), how does this > plug-in handle going from multi-page PDF files to TIF, PCX, > EPS, WMF, etc.? Thanks. When going to EPS you pick a page. As a PS/EPS export plug-in, it doesn't offer TIF, PCX, WMF etc. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 19:45:27-GMT,3300;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27205 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:45:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA32674; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:26:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:23:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA32535; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:23:56 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980417191922.00d6c424@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:19:22 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The "/F/video/235.mov" looks to me that you may have an absolute path in your Acrobat link to the .mov file. You'll have to redo your link so that it is path-relative, and does not include a drive letter or volume identifier of any sort. i.e.: the path should look something like: "../../video/235.mov" (depends on where things are, of course). As for being unable to find Quicktime, does the video play if you just double-click the 235.mov file from within Windows Explorer? If it doesn't play, the problem is in the way QT was installed. If it does play, the problem is within Acrobat and its linkage to QT (I think this is done via the "movie32.api" plug-in). BTW, watch out when using QT -- Apple has announced a new licensing policy for QT that many of us have found to be quite objectionable (discussed on PDF-L a couple of weeks ago). Tom Thiersch At 02:44 PM 4/17/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Dear PDFers, > >I'm building a CD-ROM with about 100 PDF files and 40 movies. Everything works fine on the Mac, where the CD was burned, but under Windows 95 Acrobat is having trouble finding the movies. Reader reports, > > "Cannot Initialize Quicktime. Check your QuickTime installation." > >and then a second message appears: > > "/F/video/235.mov" > cannot be found. Would you like to browse for a replacement > file? > > > >-- >Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org >Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org >2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 >Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org >------------------------- >"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, > but in practice, there is." > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 20:06:01-GMT,2815;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27955 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:06:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00769; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:47:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:42:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00579; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:42:34 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:42:52 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C1009F438@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On one project I had some problems with QuickTime movies playing on the PC side. This affected Acrobat. Once I made sure the movies would play correctly on both platforms than all worked. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: fharri@osa.org [SMTP:fharri@osa.org] > Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 2:45 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Cc: fharri@osa.org > Subject: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM > > > Dear PDFers, > > I'm building a CD-ROM with about 100 PDF files and 40 movies. Everything > works fine on the Mac, where the CD was burned, but under Windows 95 > Acrobat is having trouble finding the movies. Reader reports, > > "Cannot Initialize Quicktime. Check your QuickTime installation." > > and then a second message appears: > > "/F/video/235.mov" > cannot be found. Would you like to browse for a replacement > file? > > > > -- > Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org > Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org > 2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 > Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org > ------------------------- > "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, > but in practice, there is." > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 21:44:06-GMT,2112;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01865 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:44:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05362; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:26:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:20:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05012; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:20:56 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:11:03 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd6a46$9f407ae0$67f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I'm building a CD-ROM with about 100 PDF files and 40 movies. > Everything works fine on the Mac, where the CD was burned, > but under Windows 95 Acrobat is having trouble finding the > movies. Reader reports, > > "Cannot Initialize Quicktime. Check your QuickTime installation." > > and then a second message appears: > > "/F/video/235.mov" > cannot be found. Would you like to browse for a replacement > file? Does the same PC have any trouble playing the movies in the Acrobat Cafe (sampler on the Acrobat Reader CDROM)? Are the videos flattened? Does the video appear on the CDROM as F:\video\235.mov? Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 21:44:31-GMT,1899;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01883 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:44:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05431; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:28:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:24:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05236; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:24:44 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:23:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Pat Howlin" Subject: [PDF] Options Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am looking for suggestions and options on how to manage repurposing PDF content. What I start with is a Quark docs that can have several pages within each document. Each page can contain several stories that jump to linked text boxes within the document. They also contain graphics (Photoshop CMYK and Illustrator TIFF or EPS files) as part of the page. I want to distribute the documents as PDF files but then my customers want to repurpose selected content. In other words, they want to choose only one story at a time to extract off a page or pick a particular graphic and reuse - hi res. Any plugin or extensions that would do the above? Thanks for your help. phowlin@cmp.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Apr-1998 23:48:05-GMT,4658;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06247 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:48:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10300; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:31:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:27:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10056; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:27:38 -0500 X-Sender: osa\fharri\fharris@mail.osa.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:45:23 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: fharri@osa.org (Frank Harris) Subject: Re: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I do not think I have an absolute path problem. When I put the CD in a different PC, I see the same errors but with a different drive letter. But I cannot see any way to establish the path on a movie link other than browsing to the file, and that seems to give me a relative path. So I might be missing something important. By the way, on both of these PCs we have just installed QuickTime 3.0. Could it be a QT3.0 installation bug, that is losing the path info also? I recall reading how with the beta versions of QT3.0, some of the Windows configuration files (DLL I think) were not being noticed by one of either Acrobat or Intenet Exporer. Any ideas? >The "/F/video/235.mov" looks to me that you may have an absolute path in >your Acrobat link to the .mov file. > >You'll have to redo your link so that it is path-relative, and does not >include a drive letter or volume identifier of any sort. i.e.: the path >should look something like: > > "../../video/235.mov" (depends on where things are, of course). > >As for being unable to find Quicktime, does the video play if you just >double-click the 235.mov file from within Windows Explorer? If it doesn't >play, the problem is in the way QT was installed. If it does play, the >problem is within Acrobat and its linkage to QT (I think this is done via >the "movie32.api" plug-in). > >BTW, watch out when using QT -- Apple has announced a new licensing policy >for QT that many of us have found to be quite objectionable (discussed on >PDF-L a couple of weeks ago). > >Tom Thiersch > > > >At 02:44 PM 4/17/98 -0400, you wrote: >> >>Dear PDFers, >> >>I'm building a CD-ROM with about 100 PDF files and 40 movies. Everything >works fine on the Mac, where the CD was burned, but under Windows 95 Acrobat >is having trouble finding the movies. Reader reports, >> >> "Cannot Initialize Quicktime. Check your QuickTime installation." >> >>and then a second message appears: >> >> "/F/video/235.mov" >> cannot be found. Would you like to browse for a replacement >> file? >> >> >> >>-- >>Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org >>Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org >>2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 >>Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org >>------------------------- >>"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, >> but in practice, there is." >> >> >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org 2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org ------------------------- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Apr-1998 0:26:36-GMT,5273;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07320 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:26:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11595; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:07:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:04:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11491; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:04:36 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980418000022.00d77a50@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:00:22 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You don't "think" you have an absolute path problem? How about just looking at the Properties of the link, and then there will be no guesswork! Did the .mov play or not? At 07:45 PM 4/17/98 -0400, you wrote: > >I do not think I have an absolute path problem. When I put the CD in a different PC, I see the same errors but with a different drive letter. But I cannot see any way to establish the path on a movie link other than browsing to the file, and that seems to give me a relative path. So I might be missing something important. > >By the way, on both of these PCs we have just installed QuickTime 3.0. Could it be a QT3.0 installation bug, that is losing the path info also? I recall reading how with the beta versions of QT3.0, some of the Windows configuration files (DLL I think) were not being noticed by one of either Acrobat or Intenet Exporer. > >Any ideas? > > >>The "/F/video/235.mov" looks to me that you may have an absolute path in >>your Acrobat link to the .mov file. >> >>You'll have to redo your link so that it is path-relative, and does not >>include a drive letter or volume identifier of any sort. i.e.: the path >>should look something like: >> >> "../../video/235.mov" (depends on where things are, of course). >> >>As for being unable to find Quicktime, does the video play if you just >>double-click the 235.mov file from within Windows Explorer? If it doesn't >>play, the problem is in the way QT was installed. If it does play, the >>problem is within Acrobat and its linkage to QT (I think this is done via >>the "movie32.api" plug-in). >> >>BTW, watch out when using QT -- Apple has announced a new licensing policy >>for QT that many of us have found to be quite objectionable (discussed on >>PDF-L a couple of weeks ago). >> >>Tom Thiersch >> >> >> >>At 02:44 PM 4/17/98 -0400, you wrote: >>> >>>Dear PDFers, >>> >>>I'm building a CD-ROM with about 100 PDF files and 40 movies. Everything >>works fine on the Mac, where the CD was burned, but under Windows 95 Acrobat >>is having trouble finding the movies. Reader reports, >>> >>> "Cannot Initialize Quicktime. Check your QuickTime installation." >>> >>>and then a second message appears: >>> >>> "/F/video/235.mov" >>> cannot be found. Would you like to browse for a replacement >>> file? >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org >>>Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org >>>2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 >>>Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org >>>------------------------- >>>"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, >>> but in practice, there is." >>> >>> >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>>+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >>>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>> >> >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > >-- >Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org >Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org >2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 >Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org >------------------------- >"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, > but in practice, there is." > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Apr-1998 1:57:31-GMT,3821;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09634 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:57:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA14646; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:43:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:40:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA14517; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:40:00 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:03:58 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <01442979605005@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Don, > Not to focus on my own 2 cents worth in this long thread -- but I mean > it! If you are trying to author cross-platform CDs without a way to > test the Mac side of "cross-platform", you are going to get in a lot > more trouble than the price of a Mac. > > You may be assuming that PDFs work identically on both platforms -- that > would be an INcorrect assumption. There's not much difference -- but > there's some. > > You may be assuming that your PC-authored PDF files will automatically > reveal themselves as PDFs on a Mac.... and THAT would be an incorrect > assumption as well. (They need to be typed in order for the Mac to show > a PDF icon for the file). > > The short version is: Buy a Mac. It's the only reliable way to go. > (Spoken as one who (a) loathes Macs, and (b) runs a Windows shop) OK, I took your original response to be more shallow than you intended. However, your short version was not convincing. I need more before spending that much money out of my non-existent budget, especially for something that I might need just once or twice a year. So, I am back to collect more information from you. I did create a PDF file on an ISO 9660 CD-ROM and sent it to a Macintosh site. This was the same file, on the same CD-ROM that I used on a PC. The report that came back said the file did read correctly with no problems to report. This raises a question. How could there be no problems to report if the file appears incorrectly on the other end, as you indicate it would? For example, is there a manual way to do the association of file and application and to launch them together (the PC allows this by dragging the file onto the application icon)? Is there some automatic mechanism that might have made the association on the other end if there was no correct typing information (the PC uses the registry)? On the Mac version of Acrobat Reader, can you open the application without a file and then select the file (as you can on the PC)? Again, I am not familiar with the Mac, so I need you to be explicit. How are these type associations made when you download a file from the web to a Macintosh system or pick up a data file from a non-Macintosh file system (ISO 9660 CD-ROM, network or modem link)? I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that such things must be done occasionally, if not frequently. Thank you for taking the time to point out potential problems. I do appreciate your support. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Apr-1998 1:58:09-GMT,3055;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09655 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:58:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA14962; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:52:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:49:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA14859; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:49:10 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:51:28 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <01534992105014@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jernej, > To my knowledge, every Joliet disk can be read under plain DOS. At least I > can read all of which a friend of mine burned for me. File names are > truncated to 8.3 of course. Ah, back into familiar territory. I think I can support this statement. If you bring up a DOS prompt under Windows 95, you will see all file names presented in the 8.3 format. This is because in Windows 95, long file names (or any file names with inappropriate characters such as lower case or a format other than 8.3) will have multiple directory entries. My recollection is that the 8.3 name is always the first of the consecutive and fixed length directory entries followed by as many more directory entries as necessary to represent the entire long name. The DIR command when run from a DOS prompt under Windows 95 ignores long file names as if their directory entries did not exist. Only 8.3 format file names are visible. DOS command lines, with appropriate syntax, can use long file names in most circumstances so they are not completely ignored by this version of DOS. I have not attempted to read long file names on earlier versions of DOS nor have I tried to use DOS to access the newest file system available on Windows 98 (although I suspect the directory structure is unchanged and only the allocation of disk space is done differently). Windows NT is also excluded from this discussion. I must add the disclaimer that I have not experimented with this under the Joliet disk file system so I am not confirming that this will always work as you describe. However, I believe you are correct for the reasons stated above and I have no reason to suspect otherwise. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Apr-1998 2:03:37-GMT,1776;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09795 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:03:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA15201; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:58:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:55:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15043; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:55:33 -0500 From: "kyle clarke" To: Subject: [PDF] weblinks to PDF bookmark or page Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:50:20 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bd6a6c$591fa420$a08e15cf@ccnet.com.ccnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199804170653.BAA03927@everglades.binc.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all, Is there a way to link from a web page to a destination within a PDF, like a bookmark or page? I looked all over the web for an FAQ about this, but couldn't find one (I apologize in advance if this is frequently asked.) Thanks in advance, Kyle Clarke kclarke@ccnet.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Apr-1998 7:00:14-GMT,2308;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26039 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:00:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA24221; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:48:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:43:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23963; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:43:53 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:40:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bd6a95$445c1a40$67f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I do not think I have an absolute path problem. When I put > the CD in a different PC, I see the same errors but with a > different drive letter. But I cannot see any way to > establish the path on a movie link other than browsing to the > file, and that seems to give me a relative path. So I might > be missing something important. Yes, if the letter changes the link is clearly relative. > > By the way, on both of these PCs we have just installed > QuickTime 3.0. Could it be a QT3.0 installation bug, that is > losing the path info also? I recall reading how with the > beta versions of QT3.0, some of the Windows configuration > files (DLL I think) were not being noticed by one of either > Acrobat or Intenet Exporer. I've seen reports here that QT 3 has problems. How about the tests on the Reader CDROM? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Apr-1998 7:13:38-GMT,4173;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA28231 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:13:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA24689; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 02:03:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:59:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24535; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:59:34 -0500 Message-ID: <35384F21.2993@document-solutions.com> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 23:58:41 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <01442979605005@acmenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Russell Hansberry wrote: > > > > You may be assuming that your PC-authored PDF files will automatically > > reveal themselves as PDFs on a Mac.... and THAT would be an incorrect > > assumption as well. (They need to be typed in order for the Mac to show > > a PDF icon for the file). > > I did create a PDF file on an ISO 9660 CD-ROM and sent it to a Macintosh > site. This was the same file, on the same CD-ROM that I used on a PC. The > report that came back said the file did read correctly with no problems to > report. Yes - the file itself is correct in all respect when read from a ISO9660 disc. Because resource-fork data is not included by default on a PC-burned CD-R, the PC-authored, PC-burned PDF file shows up as a "file" when read on a Mac -- that is, a binary file with no "type" set for it. The icon, I believe, is a blank-appearing file icon. If the Mac user double-clicks it, Reader does NOT launch. > This raises a question. How could there be no problems to report if the > file appears incorrectly on the other end, as you indicate it would? For > example, is there a manual way to do the association of file and > application and to launch them together (the PC allows this by dragging the > file onto the application icon)? When using the Mac as a burner platform for PC-authored PDFs, it is easy to set the file type using any number of freebie utilities, including one available from Adobe's web site, I believe. The simplest of these utilities will generally allow one to batch-type whole directories of PDFs. Fancier ones may do more... As to the "no problems" -- read on. > Is there some automatic mechanism that > might have made the association on the other end if there was no correct > typing information (the PC uses the registry)? Not to my knowledge. > On the Mac version of > Acrobat Reader, can you open the application without a file and then select > the file (as you can on the PC)? Yes, this is in fact the only method I know of to open an un-typed PDF file on a Mac. > Again, I am not familiar with the Mac, so > I need you to be explicit. Neither am I! All comments re Macs from me should come with a healthy dose of double-checking! > How are these type associations made when you download a file from the web > to a Macintosh system or pick up a data file from a non-Macintosh file > system (ISO 9660 CD-ROM, network or modem link)? I assume (perhaps > incorrectly) that such things must be done occasionally, if not frequently. You are right -- and I don't know the answer. But someone does...? -- Regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Ave., Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 (510) 986-0250 -- Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com -- www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Apr-1998 12:44:46-GMT,3104;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA12235 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 06:44:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA32506; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:29:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:24:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32311; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:24:31 -0500 Message-ID: <35389B8E.AC463559@beacon.com> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:24:46 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <01442979605005@acmenet.com> <35384F21.2993@document-solutions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Duff Johnson wrote: > > Yes - the file itself is correct in all respect when read from a ISO9660 > disc. Because resource-fork data is not included by default on a > PC-burned CD-R, the PC-authored, PC-burned PDF file shows up as a "file" > when read on a Mac -- that is, a binary file with no "type" set for it. > The icon, I believe, is a blank-appearing file icon. If the Mac user > double-clicks it, Reader does NOT launch. In order to really do this right, Russell, you would have to manually assemble the resource fork information in one of the formats supported by a non-Mac burner that *can* write resource forks and finder info (signature, or type and creator), and then use that software to burn the CD. In the case of mkhybrid on a UNIX box, you'd be making the .resource directories and .finderinfo directories and putting carefully constructed resource forks and signatures in there. You'd construct the installer with extra special care. Then you'd write that baby and make a beeline for Kinko's where you would stick that CD in every Mac in the place and make sure the installer runs, the PDF files associate with the Reader, etc. > > How are these type associations made when you download a file from the web > > to a Macintosh system or pick up a data file from a non-Macintosh file > > system (ISO 9660 CD-ROM, network or modem link)? I assume (perhaps > > incorrectly) that such things must be done occasionally, if not frequently. Every downloaded file is prefixed by a MIME type; for PDF, that's "application/pdf", and the *browser* is responsible for mapping that into the system-specific application/document association. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Apr-1998 16:22:21-GMT,1931;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16876 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:22:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06601; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 11:05:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:57:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06296; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:57:33 -0500 X-Sender: opiopb@pop.tiac.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:00:12 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: opiopb@tiac.net (Judy Davison) Subject: [PDF] PostScript Files from PDFs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am on a Mac, and have been trying to create PostScript (PS) files from PDF files to download to a Xerox Docutech system. But the only files that convert to PS with no errors or crashes are the ones which were originally created using Distiller. Files created with Capture or Reviewer or a plug-in don't seem to want to download images. I get white text/black background or nothing, or, in other cases, fonts which all defaulted to Courier. All these files are from different CDs and different sources, and originated from electronic files or copy which was scanned, then OCR'd and converted to PDF Normal or Image plus hidden text. Does anyone have a solution to this dilemma? Thanks--Judy +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Apr-1998 7:08:13-GMT,2157;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18089 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 01:08:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA00650; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 01:46:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 01:40:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00477; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 01:40:18 -0500 Message-ID: <35399AE6.22C8@document-solutions.com> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:34:14 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <01442979605005@acmenet.com> <35384F21.2993@document-solutions.com> <35389B8E.AC463559@beacon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory Snavely wrote: > Every downloaded file is prefixed by a MIME type; for PDF, that's > "application/pdf", and the *browser* is responsible for mapping that into the > system-specific application/document association. So... interesting point.... Therefore a PC-authored PDF file (or maybe ANY PDF file, or any file), is dependant on the configured maps of various download apps and methods (FTP, HTTP, etc.) to operate in a Mac environment from the moment of download. ?? -- Regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Ave., Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 (510) 986-0250 -- Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com -- www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Apr-1998 7:25:04-GMT,5848;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA21006 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 01:25:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA01557; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 02:15:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 02:12:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01415; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 02:12:01 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:34:54 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <07163915605659@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I wish to thank everyone who has been so helpful in sorting out the details and providing my introductory education to PDF on the Macintosh. At this point, I would like to try to state what I think is true and refine a point or two with questions. Someone once told me the best way to learn a subject is to teach it. I think that if I try to state my understanding of the subject, that will serve the same purpose. Information on the Macintosh is stored in three places, the finder information, the data fork and the resource fork. The finder stores what would be considered directory or folder information. This includes the creator and the file type, each four ASCII characters. The other information is kept in two parts each file called the data fork and resource fork. The data portion corresponds to the file contents on many other operating systems. The resource portion of an executable file or application contains menus, icons, dialog boxes, and perhaps other forms of program data. The resource content is somewhat flexible and can be used for other purposes as well. There are several CD-ROM formats. There is a hybrid format that uses two volumes. One for PC and one for Macintosh. The Macintosh volume uses the Macintosh HFS file system and thus supports resource forks. Special software is required to write this format from a PC. There is an ISO 9660 format that can be read by both PC and Macintosh systems. It does not support resources. Any file retrieved from this format CD-ROM has only a data part, so such files are not executable and have no known file type or association to a particular application. In order to provide resources on this format CD-ROM resources and data must be encapsulated into a third format and special extraction software must be run on the Macintosh to restore the file to its data and resource parts. Two such formats are BIN (MacBinary) and the fatter HQX (BinHex). The free Macintosh utility Stuffit can read the data and resource portions of these formats and construct the proper Macintosh file format. PC Exchange is a Macintosh program that is part of System 7 and later Mac operating systems. System 6 had Apple File Exchange. These allow you to setup automatic mapping of file extensions to types. However, they cannot turn a file into an executable file. It also cannot change the type of a file on CD-ROM because it is a read-only medium. The desktop file on a Macintosh CD-ROM somehow helps in locating appropriate applications. This is still a bit fuzzy in my head. One solution for distributing Adobe Acrobat Reader, is to provide the CD-ROM from Adobe with that product. This does not provide a solution for properly identifying my PDF file as associated with that application. However, by launching Acrobat Reader and then using the open menu, the PDF file may be opened without regard to file type. To automatically identify file types, I need an HFS CD-ROM or a hybrid ISO-9660/HFS CD-ROM. The latter can either duplicate my data or can place it on the disk once and provide both file structures for it. Files read by Adobe Acrobat Reader have the signature "PDF CARO". I was given two vendors that supply the tools to create the hybrid disks on the PC. One creates both file structures pointing to a singe copy of each file and it is free. The other creates both file structures but duplicates the files and it is commercial product. Both provide a means of supplying the necessary signatures. I should be able to download the Macintosh installation file(s) for Adobe Acrobat Reader from the Adobe site and place them on a hybrid CD-ROM along with my own PDF file. The alternative approach is to use only the ISO-9660 format. Files would be converted to MacBinary format (so they would need to be stored twice, once for PC and once for Mac. Also, Stuffit would need to be supplied on the disk to restore the files to native HFS format on the Mac. Unfortunately, I do not yet understand how to install Stuffit on a Mac since in the ISO-9660 format, it cannot be rendered in executable form. My inclination is to try to create a hybrid with my PDF file (not duplicated) and both the Windows 95 and Macintosh versions of Adobe Acrobat Reader. That should be the best of all worlds. The tools available on the web are at: http://www.ps.ucl.ac.uk/~jcpearso/mkhybrid.html (the free product) http://www.macdisk.com/hybriden.htm (the commercial product, and lots of technical information) Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Apr-1998 14:35:21-GMT,3323;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04459 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 08:35:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12940; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:14:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:08:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12729; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:08:10 -0500 Message-ID: <353A0388.7F5D4DB1@rpimail.mdacc.tmc.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:00:41 -0500 From: John Grossman Organization: The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <07163915605659@acmenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Russell Hansberry wrote: > > I wish to thank everyone who has been so helpful in sorting out the details... Your summary was good. It will be useful to many people. We've made a lot of hybrid CD-ROM's here and I can suggest how to do this job in the easiest way that I've found. 1. Acquire an inexpensive Macintosh. You really need a Mac if you are going to distribute CD's to Mac users. It doesn't have to be fast. An old used Quadra 700 or something like that should work fine. Probably available for less than $500. Just make sure it has at least a 1 GB hard drive so that you can put the entire contents of a CD on it. You can also use any PC SCSI drive, but you'll need to reformat it when you attach it to the Mac. Alternatively, you can hook any SCSI JAZ drive up to a Mac and it will work fine for CD burning. 2. Acquire Toast CD-ROM burning software for the Mac. I think this is now sold by Adaptec. 3. Acquire Acrobat Exchange for the Mac. 4. Hook your CD-ROM writing drive up to the Mac using SCSI. 5. Transfer the files to the Mac. 6. Open up the files in Exchange then save them. This will automatically set the type and creator. 7. Write a README file on the Mac using the SimpleText application that comes with every Mac. 8. Follow the instructions in the Toast manual for creating a hybrid CD. The instructions are very clear and and are in step-by-step format. Before writing the CD, make sure that the icons and Windows for your Mac files appear in the upper left corner of the screen in the arrangement that's best for you. The hybrid CD will retain window and icon settings, so you can get into trouble if you open a window and place it in the lower right corner of the screen on a big monitor. If someone opens the directory on a small monitor, the window may appear off the screen and be unusable. 9. Burn the CD. 10. Celebrate! Good luck. John Grossman +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Apr-1998 16:56:47-GMT,1525;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07642 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 10:56:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA17563; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:35:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:26:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17155; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:26:23 -0500 Message-ID: <353A25FB.64B930C9@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:27:40 -0700 From: Sharon Grimshaw/Steven Soso X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] WordPerfect PDFMaker? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Adobe's website I recently saw a PDF conversion utility for MS Word called PDFMaker. Sounds cool, but I'm a WordPerfect user and so is my company. Does anyone know of a similar utility/macro for WordPerfect? Thanks. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Apr-1998 16:57:17-GMT,2062;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07663 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 10:57:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA17947; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:43:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:38:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17633; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:38:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM Date: Sun, 19 Apr 98 18:00:28 +0100 x-sender: shoto@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Graeme Armitage To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <893003224.2026705.0@shoto.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>By the way, on both of these PCs we have just installed QuickTime 3.0. >Could it be a QT3.0 installation bug, that is losing the path info also? I >recall reading how with the beta versions of QT3.0, some of the Windows >configuration files (DLL I think) were not being noticed by one of either >Acrobat or Intenet Exporer. >> >>Any ideas? I have had the same problem no qicktime movies work with QT3 through Acrobat on a pc you have to use QT 2.1.2 Adobe uk claim they Adobe 3.01 dose not support QT3, or are taking that line with enquires and that we will have to wait until later releases of the programe Well lets hope a version comes out rather sharpish. regards Graeme Armitage +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Apr-1998 17:38:06-GMT,3081;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08615 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:38:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19297; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 12:18:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 12:12:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19079; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 12:12:04 -0500 Message-ID: <353A3079.1E2BB0F7@beacon.com> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:12:25 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <01442979605005@acmenet.com> <35384F21.2993@document-solutions.com> <35389B8E.AC463559@beacon.com> <35399AE6.22C8@document-solutions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Duff Johnson wrote: > > > Every downloaded file is prefixed by a MIME type; for PDF, that's > > "application/pdf", and the *browser* is responsible for mapping that into the > > system-specific application/document association. > > So... interesting point.... Therefore a PC-authored PDF file (or maybe > ANY PDF file, or any file), is dependant on the configured maps of > various download apps and methods (FTP, HTTP, etc.) to operate in a Mac > environment from the moment of download. No, not quite; this is not a Macintosh-only "phenomenon". This is simply the way the web works. Restated: any file downloaded on any platform VIA WEB BROWSER is dependent on MIME type mapping in the browser for proper operation/execution. In the case of PDFs, only the data fork is delivered, if you look at it from a Mac's point of view. No platform but a Mac cares about this. Every platform, including the Mac, makes its decision about the type of file and the application in which to open it by relying on the MIME type information. In a sense, on the Mac, the MIME type mapping makes up for the missing resource fork by essentially supplying a file type and application name in which to open the document. And THAT is why getting a PDF to open correctly off an ISO 9660 CD-ROM and over the web are two totally different issues. The former requires the presence of a resource fork, which is indeed a Macintosh-specific phenomenon. The latter requires the proper configuration of the web server with regard to MIME types regardless of the client platform. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Apr-1998 19:01:10-GMT,3628;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10608 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:01:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22401; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:48:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:42:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22197; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:42:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199804191842.NAA22193@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Sun, 19 Apr 98 14:38:41 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 [Cory Snavely wrote on 4/19/98 1:12 PM] >> > Every downloaded file is prefixed by a MIME type; for PDF, that's >> > "application/pdf", and the *browser* is responsible for mapping that into >the >> > system-specific application/document association. >> >> So... interesting point.... Therefore a PC-authored PDF file (or maybe >> ANY PDF file, or any file), is dependant on the configured maps of >> various download apps and methods (FTP, HTTP, etc.) to operate in a Mac >> environment from the moment of download. > >No, not quite; this is not a Macintosh-only "phenomenon". This is simply the >way the web works. > >Restated: any file downloaded on any platform VIA WEB BROWSER is dependent on >MIME type mapping in the browser for proper operation/execution. > >In the case of PDFs, only the data fork is delivered, if you look at it >from a >Mac's point of view. No platform but a Mac cares about this. Every >platform, >including the Mac, makes its decision about the type of file and the >application >in which to open it by relying on the MIME type information. In a sense, >on the >Mac, the MIME type mapping makes up for the missing resource fork by >essentially >supplying a file type and application name in which to open the document. > >And THAT is why getting a PDF to open correctly off an ISO 9660 CD-ROM and >over >the web are two totally different issues. The former requires the >presence of a >resource fork, which is indeed a Macintosh-specific phenomenon. The latter >requires the proper configuration of the web server with regard to MIME types >regardless of the client platform. > >Cory Snavely >The Beacon Group Cory, File creator and type information on the Macintosh are stored in the file system; not the resource fork. In addition, PDF files on the Macintosh rarely, if ever, have a resource fork. There is simply no need to have a resource fork on a PDF file. The browser MIME type is used to assign the appropriate file system information for the creator and type. Other file system info includes items such as file name, file size, creation date, modification date, file locked and the finder flags i.e. invisible. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Apr-1998 20:07:13-GMT,3020;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12115 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:07:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA24438; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:52:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:46:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24225; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:46:00 -0500 Message-ID: <353A548A.4B88B3CC@beacon.com> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:46:18 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <199804191842.NAA22193@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mark Gavin wrote: > > >> So... interesting point.... Therefore a PC-authored PDF file (or maybe > >> ANY PDF file, or any file), is dependant on the configured maps of > >> various download apps and methods (FTP, HTTP, etc.) to operate in a Mac > >> environment from the moment of download. > > > >[...] > >Every platform, including the Mac, makes its decision about the type of > >file and the application in which to open it by relying on the MIME type > >information. In a sense, on the Mac, the MIME type mapping makes up for > >the missing resource fork by essentially supplying a file type and > >application name in which to open the document. > > File creator and type information on the Macintosh are stored in the > file system; not the resource fork. In addition, PDF files on the > Macintosh rarely, if ever, have a resource fork. There is simply no need > to have a resource fork on a PDF file. I'm not sure I understand. Where on the file system is it stored, then? If it is not in either of the forks (and it is certainly not in the data fork), then how is the association between the file itself and its type and creator made? Either way, I was only trying to clarify that file typing on CD and on the web is a completely different mechanism for Macs, and moreover that file typing in general typically works the same way for all computers when browsers are involved. The original question seemed to imply that a PC-authored PDF file delivered over the web was somehow lacking information as compared to a Mac-authored PDF file, which I do not believe to be the case. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Apr-1998 21:58:39-GMT,1629;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14464 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:58:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28258; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 16:50:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 16:44:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28019; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 16:44:09 -0500 From: rob_hakanson@mentorg.com (Rob Hakanson) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:44:31 -0700 Message-Id: <9804191444.ZM3630@mandolin> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Want to set page layout with pdfmark Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I embed pdfmark commands in my PostScript files prior to distillation to set several aspects of the PDF file's open behavior. I'd like to use pdfmark to set the page layout of the file to "Continuous". This would avoid doing this step by hand in Exchange. I've looked in the pdfmark reference manual to no avail. I would appreciate any help. Thanks, Rob Hakanson Mentor Graphics +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Apr-1998 23:05:09-GMT,3198;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16068 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 17:05:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA30349; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 17:47:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 17:42:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA30072; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 17:42:14 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 23:40:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd6be4$527ed040$36f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <353A548A.4B88B3CC@beacon.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > File creator and type information on the Macintosh are stored in the > > file system; not the resource fork. In addition, PDF files on the > > Macintosh rarely, if ever, have a resource fork. There is > simply no need > > to have a resource fork on a PDF file. > > I'm not sure I understand. Where on the file system is it > stored, then? If it > is not in either of the forks (and it is certainly not in the > data fork), then > how is the association between the file itself and its type > and creator made? I hope someone is archiving all this stuff! Here's some more clarification. Every file system stores information about a file. This is typically in a "catalog", "table of contents", "FAT" or some other entity that goes with the system, disk or partition. For instance: - its name (all systems?) - its location on disk (all systems?) - its creation and/or modification date (many systems) - its size (many systems) - its alternative long file name (32-bit Windows) - its creator and type fields (Macintosh) So you have to have a Macintosh-compatible filing system for the creator and type fields or they just don't exist. If you look on a PC formatted disk written by a Mac, you'll find a file called FINDER.DAT. This is used by the Mac to provide the bits of the file system that it wants, but has no room for in a PC-formatted FAT. On AppleTalk networks with non-Mac servers the server makes its own arrangements, and may keep the information in a separate file, or even in its own filing system if there is room. Confusingly, on many servers, the information from the filing system and the information from the resource fork are stored in the same actual file. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 4:33:20-GMT,1818;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24308 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 22:33:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA09393; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 23:10:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 23:03:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09085; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 23:03:05 -0500 Message-ID: <353A2D70.DD6295AB@cyburban.com> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 12:59:28 -0400 From: Michael Lee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] pdfmark & bookmarks X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All, I have a set of pdfmark commands that will display the bookmarks with the PDF file is open: %----Make BookMarks Show [ /PageMode /UseOutlines /Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /DOCVIEW pdfmark %---End This will display the bookmarks like so: Node1 sub1 sub2 subsub1 subsub2 Node2 sub1 sub2 But I would rather have the bookmarks show like this: Node1 Node2 ..... Is this possible. If so, what do I need to add. Thanks for any help. Michael Lee +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 10:38:15-GMT,2960;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22574 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:38:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA19860; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 05:12:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 05:05:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19619; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 05:05:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3512DA74.D879F696@realworld.com.au> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:07:03 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <01442979605005@acmenet.com> <35384F21.2993@document-solutions.com> <35389B8E.AC463559@beacon.com> <35399AE6.22C8@document-solutions.com> <353A3079.1E2BB0F7@beacon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory Snavely wrote: SNIP > In the case of PDFs, only the data fork is delivered, if you look at it from a > Mac's point of view. No platform but a Mac cares about this. Every platform, > including the Mac, makes its decision about the type of file and the application > in which to open it by relying on the MIME type information. In a sense, on the > Mac, the MIME type mapping makes up for the missing resource fork by essentially > supplying a file type and application name in which to open the document. > > And THAT is why getting a PDF to open correctly off an ISO 9660 CD-ROM and over > the web are two totally different issues. The former requires the presence of a > resource fork, which is indeed a Macintosh-specific phenomenon. The latter > requires the proper configuration of the web server with regard to MIME types > regardless of the client platform. Couls someone please explain then why as per my original posted reply to Russell I am able to burn ISO9660 from a Mac ( include "Allow Macintosh names) and have them operate, install and function IDENTICALLY including icons, self launching Reader application on PDF file double click etc. According to all of the posts I shouldnt have resouce fork to tell the Mac what program to use? Note that the above process does render the disc useless for win3.x with truncated and invisible filenames. Dean +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 10:52:20-GMT,2454;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22890 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:52:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA20746; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 05:43:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 05:36:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20536; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 05:36:51 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:36:15 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bd6c48$29656d40$b5f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3512DA74.D879F696@realworld.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Couls someone please explain then why as per my original > posted reply to Russell I > am able to burn ISO9660 from a Mac ( include "Allow Macintosh > names) and have them > operate, install and function IDENTICALLY including icons, > self launching Reader > application on PDF file double click etc. According to all of > the posts I shouldnt > have resouce fork to tell the Mac what program to use? I'd have to guess that the Mac treats the ISO9660 as an "alien" file system and uses its own mappings to provide resource forks, file typing etc. If it is the same as a floppy disk, I'd expect to find a RESOURCE.FRK directory and a FINDER.DAT file included and visible from the PC. It may also be that the mac uses other extensions to ISO9660 to keep this information. Remember that a key part of the original questions here was "do I need a Mac to do this". Your solution doesn't remove the need for a Mac; nor really of a PC. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 11:54:41-GMT,1884;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24407 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 05:54:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA22157; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:30:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:25:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21957; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:25:33 -0500 Message-ID: <353B31AE.6C3753B1@avenza.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:29:50 -0400 From: Ted Florence Organization: Avenza Global Technologies Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat References: <000401bd6c48$29656d40$b5f582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone have any statistics or accuate estimates on thenumber of copies of Acrobat Reader nad Exchange in circulation? -- Ted Florence Executive Vice-President ted@avenza.com Avenza Software Developers of MAPublisher, MAPublisher-GPS & CADpublisher ************* NOW OFFERING SUB CENTIMETER ACCURACY ******************* Visit http://www.avenza.com Check out JAMBuddy and make your graphics INTELLIGENT *******MAKE YOUR PICTURES WORTH 1000 WORDS******* Download FREE Software for quality mapping on the Internet +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 13:20:35-GMT,2032;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26688 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:20:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA25055; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:56:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:50:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24818; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:50:24 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:50:52 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C1009F43C@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For number six, I would like to suggest that you use the PDF utility (PDF Converter) free from Adobe. (Web site) You need only to select all of the PDF files and drag their icons onto PDF Converter Icon. This will add and/or correct the file type and creator. Jim watson@battelle.org > -----Original Message----- > From: John Grossman [SMTP:jgrossman@rpimail.mdacc.tmc.edu] > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 1998 10:01 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on > Mac > > > 6. Open up the files in Exchange then save them. This will automatically > set the type and creator. > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 13:31:01-GMT,8924;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27022 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:31:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA25786; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:11:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:04:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25441; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:04:49 -0500 Message-ID: <353B4806.9A17D813@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:05:10 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <01442979605005@acmenet.com> <35384F21.2993@document-solutions.com> <35389B8E.AC463559@beacon.com> <35399AE6.22C8@document-solutions.com> <353A3079.1E2BB0F7@beacon.com> <3512DA74.D879F696@realworld.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dean Laffan wrote: > > Could someone please explain then why as per my original posted > reply to Russell I am able to burn ISO9660 from a Mac ( include > "Allow Macintosh names) and have them operate, install and > function IDENTICALLY including icons, self launching Reader > application on PDF file double click etc. According to all of > the posts I shouldn't have resouce fork to tell the Mac what > program to use? Not according to my posts. I also produced similar results at my site, and confirmed that the resource forks were of non-zero size and that executable programs ran flawlessly, and that type and creator information was preserved as well. Out of curiosity, I checked some CD-R info sites on the web and found a paper on ISO 9660 at http://www.discmfg.com/library/acrobat/iso9660.pdf. Here is an excerpt from that paper, which should clear up just about everything we've been guessing at. Summary: both resource forks and file signature (type/creator) are supported through specific usage conventions of the ISO 9660 standard which are known as "Macintosh Extensions" or "Apple ISO 9660". --begin included message -- Implementations of ISO 9660 Macintosh The Macintosh supports ISO 9660 by adding an extension onto the operating system, called the foreign file access extension. This operating system extension, along with code that tells it how to convert ISO-9660, makes an ISO-9660 disc appear on the desktop just like any other write-protected HFS Volume, with its own icon on the Macintosh desktop. Even though the ISO 9660 disc looks like a normal volume, not all of the data that the Macintosh needs to display the volume on the desktop is available in the ISO 9660 data. The additional information gets created by the ISO-9660 access software when an ISO directory is opened. The result of this is that the user has no control over the placement of folders and files, and an ISO 9660 disc loses some of the look and feel so important to the Macintosh. Another problem that occurs with ISO 9660 on the Macintosh has to do with how the Macintosh file system implements executable files, or applications as they are known to Mac users. All of the files on a standard ISO 9660 disc will appear on the desktop as generic documents. To correct this deficiency, Apple uses the reserved system use field in the directory record and associated files in ISO 9660 to add extra information that allows applications to run from an ISO 9660 disc. See the discussion on extensions to ISO 9660 for more details, page 29 [which is included below -Cory]. For some developers, another source of difficulties is the File Version Number. The File Version Number is added to each file when it is pre-mastered to make the File Identifiers comply with the ISO specification. Applications that worked from the hard disk may not work from the CD-ROM for the simple reason that they are trying to find a file whose name now has a ';1' on the end of it. [here is page 29 -Cory] Extensions to ISO 9660 ISO 9660 works well for a majority of operating systems. In some cases, however, it has proven to be difficult or impossible to use. To make it more usable in their respective environments, Apple and the UNIX community established extensions to ISO 9660. The Apple Extensions were created by Apple and are generally known as Apple ISO 9660. The UNIX community assembled a group of people created what is known as the Rock Ridge Proposal. Recordable CD, or CD-R, opens up the possibility of updating information already on a CD-ROM. ISO-9660 was never intended to support this function. To meet this new requirement, a group met at Frankfurt, Germany and developed an update to ISO 9660. This update is called the Frankfurt Group Proposal - Volume and File Structure for Read-Only and Write-Once Compact Disc. At this point in time, the Frankfurt Proposal has been approved by the European Computer Manufacturers Association as standard ECMA 168. The Frankfurt Proposal is very complex and difficult to implement. To simply provide a way to update information on an ISO 9660 volume, a much simpler method has been implemented by several companies. This method is commonly known as Updatable ISO 9660 or Multi-Session ISO 9660. Apple ISO 9660 [12] The Macintosh operating system requires a lot of specialized data to support its graphical user interface. The information needed to implement these features is stored in two places by the HFS file system. Some information is stored in special fields in the HFS directory record. Most of the data is stored in the file itself, in a specially formatted area called the resource fork. The data in the resource fork is normally only accessible through system calls to a part of the Macintosh Operating system known as the Resource Manager. The resource fork contains things like the Menu layout, the Window definitions, user preferences, and text messages that the application displays, and the actual executable code in the case of an application. The remaining data in a file is called the data fork. The data fork is the same as a DOS or UNIX file. Most Macintosh files have both forks, a data fork and a resource fork. ISO 9660 accommodates the resource fork very well through the use of the associated file. When a Macintosh file is recorded in an ISO volume, the resource fork is recorded as an associated file, and the data fork is recorded as a normal file. Unlike the resource fork, there is some information vital to the Macintosh environment that can not be stored on a standard ISO 9660 volume. The native Macintosh file system, HFS, stores information regarding the file icon's position on the screen, what the icon looks like, what type of file it is, what application created it, and file attributes. The file attributes contain information such as if the file is visible, if the file is locked, and if it is an alias. To capture this information on an ISO 9660 volume, Apple created an extension to ISO 9660, making use of the System Use Field in the Directory Record. This field is allocated in ISO 9660, but how it is used is left open. Apple was not, however, able to make an ISO disc look exactly like an HFS disk. Currently, there is no way to record the positions of icons on the desktop in an ISO 9660 volume, so these are created when a directory is opened, with no way to control where they are located. Also, because of the way the Finder works, files and folders on an ISO disc only appear with generic icons, as seen in figure 9. [Figure 9. Apple Macintosh generic Icons] These generic icons are displayed even if the correct icons are in the Apple extensions area because the Finder assumes there is a desktop database from which to retrieve these icons and uses a special call to retrieve them. This part of the Finder was written to be very HFS specific and does not work with ISO 9660 volumes even if there is a file called desktop in the volume. If these files are copied to an HFS volume, however, the correct icon will be shown. If the Apple extensions are not present, all files will show as generic documents. [12] For further information, see "CD-ROM & the Macintosh Computer, A Gentle, Technical Introduction to Creating CD-ROMS for the Apple Macintosh computer family" and "The Apple CD-ROM Handbook" -- end included message -- Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 14:06:21-GMT,1992;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28133 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:06:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA27359; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:42:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:39:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27131; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:38:57 -0500 Message-ID: <353B5005.2957E087@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:39:17 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Want to set page layout with pdfmark References: <9804191423.ZM3136@mandolin> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rob Hakanson wrote: > > I embed pdfmark commands in my PostScript files prior to distillation to set > several aspects of the PDF file's open behavior. I'd like to use pdfmark to > set the page layout of the file to "Continuous". This would avoid doing this > step by hand in Exchange. I've looked in the pdfmark reference manual to no > avail. I would appreciate any help. I think this may be one of the file settings that pdfmark doesn't provide direct access to. Instead, check out the /PUT pdfmark operator. It should allow you to insert the key-value pair into the dictionary you want. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 14:07:14-GMT,2304;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28159 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:07:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA28211; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:57:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:52:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27902; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:52:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980420065524.007e9bc0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:55:24 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Want to set page layout with pdfmark In-Reply-To: <9804191423.ZM3136@mandolin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Use the following code to set pagination to continuous. I use this in my Frame 5.1.2 files on Win95 with Distiller 3.02. [{Catalog} <> /PUT pdfmark At 02:23 PM 4/19/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I embed pdfmark commands in my PostScript files prior to distillation to set >several aspects of the PDF file's open behavior. I'd like to use pdfmark to >set the page layout of the file to "Continuous". This would avoid doing this >step by hand in Exchange. I've looked in the pdfmark reference manual to no >avail. I would appreciate any help. > >Thanks, > >Rob Hakanson >Mentor Graphics >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 14:08:47-GMT,1944;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28208 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:08:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA27726; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:48:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:45:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27525; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:45:09 -0500 Message-ID: <353B51D8.43F7@i2000.es> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:47:04 +0200 From: Alvaro de la Hera Martinez Organization: Interlinea 2000 S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Store FDF files as PDF files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I have to create PDF files from data stored in a database. To do that, I am going to use FDF forms that I populate using the ActiveX FDF Toolkit. Can I populate a FDF form and stored it (with the values of the fields) in a normal PDF file ? Thanks in advanced. -- A H | A H | Interlinea 2000, S.A. AAAAHHHHMMMM | Kaskotegi 4, bajo A A M M | 20.305 Irun (Spain) AAAA M | Telephone: 34-43-619101 | Fax: 34-43-618159 Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 14:10:33-GMT,2558;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28301 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:10:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA28298; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:59:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:56:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28116; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:56:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980420065927.00807e40@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:59:27 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat In-Reply-To: <353B31AE.6C3753B1@avenza.com> References: <000401bd6c48$29656d40$b5f582c1@gateway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 As of last August (according to Adobe) 20 million copies of Reader had been downloaded. When Acrobat 3 came out (11/96), 40,000 people per day were downloading Reader. I recently searched for statistics on this same topic and came up empty. At 07:29 AM 4/20/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Does anyone have any statistics or accuate estimates on thenumber of copies of >Acrobat Reader nad Exchange in circulation? > >-- >Ted Florence >Executive Vice-President >ted@avenza.com > >Avenza Software >Developers of MAPublisher, MAPublisher-GPS & CADpublisher >************* NOW OFFERING SUB CENTIMETER ACCURACY ******************* >Visit http://www.avenza.com >Check out JAMBuddy and make your graphics INTELLIGENT >*******MAKE YOUR PICTURES WORTH 1000 WORDS******* >Download FREE Software for quality mapping on the Internet > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 14:43:57-GMT,2907;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29373 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:43:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA29287; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:18:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:14:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29097; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:14:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Porter To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Store FDF files as PDF files Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:14:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You can store the FDF file with an /F tag that points to the proper PDF file, be it local or on a web server. This is more space efficient if you have several data sets that you may need to populate the form with. Otherwise you would be required to store the entire PDF just to change the data populated in the form fields. robert porter applications developer java/asp/etc. . . renaissance interactive columbia sc usa > -----Original Message----- > From: Alvaro de la Hera Martinez [SMTP:alvaro@i2000.es] > Sent: Monday, April 20, 1998 9:47 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Store FDF files as PDF files > > > Hello, > > I have to create PDF files from data stored in a database. To do that, > I > am going to use FDF forms that I populate using the ActiveX FDF > Toolkit. > > Can I populate a FDF form and stored it (with the values of the > fields) > in a normal PDF file ? > > Thanks in advanced. > > -- > > A H | > A H | Interlinea 2000, S.A. > AAAAHHHHMMMM | Kaskotegi 4, bajo > A A M M | 20.305 Irun (Spain) > AAAA M | Telephone: 34-43-619101 > | Fax: 34-43-618159 > Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 15:21:38-GMT,4417;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00848 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:21:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA30600; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:43:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:39:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30382; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:39:41 -0500 X-Sender: osa\fharri\fharris@mail.osa.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:56:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: fharri@osa.org (Frank Harris) Subject: Re: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks, everyone: It looks very much like a QT3.0 bug. I've just tried the CD-R in a PC with QT 2.x installed, and there were no problems running the movies. Now I'm looking for a machine here that has QT3.0 but never had an earlier version of QuickTime installed. Frank >>>By the way, on both of these PCs we have just installed QuickTime 3.0. >>Could it be a QT3.0 installation bug, that is losing the path info also? I >>recall reading how with the beta versions of QT3.0, some of the Windows >>configuration files (DLL I think) were not being noticed by one of either >>Acrobat or Intenet Exporer. >>> >>>Any ideas? > >I have had the same problem no qicktime movies work with QT3 through >Acrobat on a pc you have to use QT 2.1.2 Adobe uk claim they Adobe 3.01 >dose not support QT3, or are taking that line with enquires and that we >will have to wait until later releases of the programe > >Well lets hope a version comes out rather sharpish. > >regards > >Graeme Armitage >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ and From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:40:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I do not think I have an absolute path problem. When I put > the CD in a different PC, I see the same errors but with a > different drive letter. But I cannot see any way to > establish the path on a movie link other than browsing to the > file, and that seems to give me a relative path. So I might > be missing something important. Yes, if the letter changes the link is clearly relative. > > By the way, on both of these PCs we have just installed > QuickTime 3.0. Could it be a QT3.0 installation bug, that is > losing the path info also? I recall reading how with the > beta versions of QT3.0, some of the Windows configuration > files (DLL I think) were not being noticed by one of either > Acrobat or Intenet Exporer. I've seen reports here that QT 3 has problems. How about the tests on the Reader CDROM? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org 2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org ------------------------- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 15:22:43-GMT,3551;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00887 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:22:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA31204; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:56:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:52:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31012; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:52:43 -0500 From: "David M. Davisson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdfmark & bookmarks Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:52:08 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bd6c6b$e4a4ada0$a2456cc7@shadow.pfp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <353A2D70.DD6295AB@cyburban.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Michael, If you want bookmarks with subordinates to be closed when viewed, use a negative number for the count value. [/Count -2 /Page 1 /View [/XYZ 44 730 1.0] /Title (NODE 1) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (Subnode 1) /OUT pdfmark [/Count -2 /Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (Subnode 2) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (SubSubnode 1) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (SubSubnode 2) /OUT pdfmark [/Count -2 /Page 1 /View [/XYZ 44 730 1.0] /Title (NODE 2) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (Subnode 1) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (Subnode 2) /OUT pdfmark This will display as: NODE 1 NODE 2 Changing the count value to a positive 2 will display as: NODE 1 Subnode 1 Subnode 2 SubSubNode 1 SubSubNode 2 NODE 2 Subnode 1 Subnode 2 David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Michael Lee > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 1998 9:59 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] pdfmark & bookmarks > Importance: High > > > > Hi All, > I have a set of pdfmark commands that will display the bookmarks > with the PDF file is open: > %----Make BookMarks Show > [ /PageMode /UseOutlines > /Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] > /DOCVIEW pdfmark > %---End > > This will display the bookmarks like so: > Node1 > sub1 > sub2 > subsub1 > subsub2 > Node2 > sub1 > sub2 > > But I would rather have the bookmarks show like this: > Node1 > Node2 > ..... > Is this possible. If so, what do I need to add. Thanks for any help. > > Michael Lee > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Apr-1998 21:43:55-GMT,1622;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14156 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:43:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA27609; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 16:30:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Apr 1998 16:22:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27245; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 16:22:45 -0500 From: rob_hakanson@mentorg.com (Rob Hakanson) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:23:07 -0700 Message-Id: <9804191423.ZM3136@mandolin> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: PDF-L@emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Want to set page layout with pdfmark Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I embed pdfmark commands in my PostScript files prior to distillation to set several aspects of the PDF file's open behavior. I'd like to use pdfmark to set the page layout of the file to "Continuous". This would avoid doing this step by hand in Exchange. I've looked in the pdfmark reference manual to no avail. I would appreciate any help. Thanks, Rob Hakanson Mentor Graphics +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 16:23:57-GMT,2864;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03541 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:23:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00406; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:36:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:32:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00168; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:32:31 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <353B51D8.43F7@i2000.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:31:49 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Store FDF files as PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Alvaro, You can populate a PDF file with form data from an FDF. In order to save the result, a normal PDF, you will neeed Exchange; Reader can not do it. However, it is possible to define the "base PDF" in the FDF file (wiht the /F command). With this, you open the FDF file, which will automatically open the base file to populate. Of course, you will have to add the base file when you hand out the FDF... One warning: when you save, you better save to another file name, otherwise, the "base PDF" will be overwritten. The procedure is rather straightforward, and I have done it several thousand times for a current electronic catalog project. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _______________ >Hello, > >I have to create PDF files from data stored in a database. To do that, I >am going to use FDF forms that I populate using the ActiveX FDF Toolkit. > >Can I populate a FDF form and stored it (with the values of the fields) >in a normal PDF file ? > >Thanks in advanced. > >-- > > A H | > A H | Interlinea 2000, S.A. > AAAAHHHHMMMM | Kaskotegi 4, bajo > A A M M | 20.305 Irun (Spain) > AAAA M | Telephone: 34-43-619101 > | Fax: 34-43-618159 > Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 16:38:51-GMT,1888;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04123 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:38:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02811; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:22:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:18:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02604; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:18:06 -0500 Message-ID: <353B754E.60A@amfam.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:18:22 -0500 From: "Dan O'Connor" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] "Form Fields Update" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are running into a problem with a "Form" which is passed among several users, all using Exchange. One person starts the form, filling multiple fields and passes it on to others for additional information and perhaps changes to data already entered. Works fine. But -- we recently discovered some data being lost and tracked it back to the fact that if you change or add data to a form field and select "close", the pdf is closed without update. The data is only saved if you select "save as". This seems to be outside the typical GUI standards where any "close" of a changed file requests varification. Anyway around this problem? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 17:24:33-GMT,1746;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05933 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:24:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04669; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:58:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:51:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04229; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:51:15 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:30:52 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <16555832806489@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ted, > Does anyone have any statistics or accuate estimates on thenumber of copies of > Acrobat Reader nad Exchange in circulation? I have no statistics, but before I was interested in putting out material in PDF format, I was well aware of its wide use by technical users. That is because a lot of companies publish product specifications or other technical specifications that way. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 18:02:24-GMT,2311;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07612 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:02:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA06578; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:35:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:30:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06346; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:30:26 -0500 X-Sender: osa\fharri\fharris@mail.osa.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:46:41 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: fharri@osa.org (Frank Harris) Subject: Re: [PDF] Movie links in CD-ROM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 One last note to close out this thread. We have decided to use file links instead of movie links on this first edition of the CD-ROM. File links do not exhibit the QT3.0 bug, but the movies must play in a separate window. About 85% of our movie links had been set up to play in a separate window, so this will not make much difference for the individuals who buy the CD. Sincerely, Frank E. Harris >Thanks, everyone: > >It looks very much like a QT3.0 bug. > >I've just tried the CD-R in a PC with QT 2.x installed, and there were no problems running the movies. Now I'm looking for a machine here that has QT3.0 but never had an earlier version of QuickTime installed. > >Frank > -- Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org 2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org ------------------------- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 19:42:24-GMT,1405;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11637 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:42:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12407; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:37:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:32:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12124; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:32:50 -0500 Message-Id: <353BA22B.2E2DC81D@dikovics.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:29:47 -0400 From: Mark Dikovics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDFdev] PLUG-IN Needed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I need an Acrobat Reader Plug-In for Win 95 ONLY that Turns off the Tool Bar. Must be a ".API" file. Can ANYONE help??? Thanks Mark +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDFdev is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 20:23:41-GMT,1769;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13121 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:23:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13407; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:54:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:50:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13247; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:50:10 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6C6A.B1B982E0@broberts> From: broberts@generac.com (Bruce Roberts) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Background printing in Reader Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:43:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a program that prints a selected list of pdf files, usually 10-12, from a cd. The program invokes Reader from a line command with the \t to background print and indeed prints the first file. I have to delay sending the next file by 30 seconds each to insure they all print. This adds a lot of time. I want to distribute this program and see the printing time as a negitive Is there anyway to send the whole batch to reader and have it spool them? Any suggestions wouls be appreaciated. TXBR +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 20:25:16-GMT,5791;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13177 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:25:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11867; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:28:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:23:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11524; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:23:16 -0500 Message-ID: <353BA0C5.FF74842F@denovolit.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:23:49 -0700 From: michaeln@denovolit.com (Michael Nevarez) Organization: De Novo Litigation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF/GIF/IMAGE conversion References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03201D@ARTHUR> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------141D49E1AF7FE66B2D474EEC" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------141D49E1AF7FE66B2D474EEC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karl, What is the name/where at your web site is the batch conversion utility we discussed. Couldn't find it. Thanks in advance. Karl De Abrew wrote: > Michael, > > Thank you for your enquiry. > > We have completed work on a tool which allows batch conversion of images > to pdf using the existing Import Image plugin. You must have Acrobat > Exchange for this application to work. > > We will be selling this for US $100 and expect to have it available for > trial-download [with limited conversions] by tommorow night. You will be > able to purchase the full registered version on-line from our website. > > You can select a folder and image type to process and our application > will iterate through that folder and all subfolders creating a new pdf > for each image. > > I hope this assists. > > regards, > > Karl De Abrew > karl@roundtable.com.au > Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download > RTSJoust! > http://www.roundtable.com.au > > -----Original Message----- > From: michaeln@denovolit.com [mailto:michaeln@denovolit.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 1:23 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF/GIF/IMAGE conversion > > I'm very interested in your tiff to pdf batch tool. Please send me some > more > information. > > Thanks. > > Karl De Abrew wrote: > > > We have written an application which will allow you to batch convert > > images to PDF [BMP/GIF/DCX/PCX/TIF]. > > > > This utility requires Acrobat Exchange and it automates the existing > > import image plugin. > > > > We will have posted a demonstration version of this on our website > > http://www.roundtable.com.au/ [under plugins] by Thursday the 16th. If > > you would like more details then please contact me privately. > > > > regards, > > > > Karl De Abrew > > karl@roundtable.com.au > > Round Table Solutions - Sign up for Acrobuddies - > > http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm > > > > Aandi Inston wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I read in the Capture 2.0 documentation, that > > > > "Acrobat Capture can create pure TIFF images and surround them > with > > a > > > > thin PDF wrapper." > > > > > > > > I have a collection of TIFF images. I want to convert them to PDF > in > > a > > > > batch job, making the conversion myself. If I understand > > > > correctly, all > > > > I need to do is add some static text (PDF markup) before and after > a > > > > TIFF image(???). > > > > > > > > > > I think the statement has misled you. The image data (pixels) from a > > TIFF > > > file can be turned into a PDF file without change or loss. But that > > does > > > not imply that the PDF format can embed the TIFF format. You need to > > > completely parse the TIFF format and know a good deal about the PDF > > format. > > > > > > Aandi > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------141D49E1AF7FE66B2D474EEC Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Nevarez, Michael R. Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Michael R. Nevarez n: Nevarez;Michael R. org: De Novo Litigation Support Services, Inc. adr: P.O. Box 281678;;;San Francisco;CA;94128-1678;U.S.A. email;internet: michaeln@denovolit.com title: Vice President of Operations, Secretary and General Counsel tel;work: (650) 692-9214 tel;fax: (650) 692-9216 tel;home: N/A note: >Expert Technical Support and Imaging Services< x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------141D49E1AF7FE66B2D474EEC-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 20:39:42-GMT,4979;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13669 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:39:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA14665; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:19:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:15:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14490; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:15:07 -0500 Message-ID: <353BACE4.BF312606@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:15:32 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac References: <07163915605659@acmenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Russell Hansberry wrote: > > ...I would like to try to state what I think is true and refine a point > or two with questions. > > There are several CD-ROM formats. There is a hybrid format that uses two > volumes. One for PC and one for Macintosh. The Macintosh volume uses the > Macintosh HFS file system and thus supports resource forks. Special > software is required to write this format from a PC. There is an ISO 9660 > format that can be read by both PC and Macintosh systems. It does not > support resources. Any file retrieved from this format CD-ROM has only a > data part, so such files are not executable and have no known file type or > association to a particular application. As posted earlier, no. ISO 9660 supports both resource forks and type/creator by way of Apple Extensions to ISO 9660, which are really just a specific implementation method of the standard. Prepared in this way, files are fully functional on the Mac. The real trick, and I'm using the proper terminology now, is to find non-Mac software that *fully* supports Apple Extensions to ISO 9660. > In order to provide resources on > this format CD-ROM resources and data must be encapsulated into a third > format and special extraction software must be run on the Macintosh to > restore the file to its data and resource parts. Two such formats are BIN > (MacBinary) and the fatter HQX (BinHex). The free Macintosh utility Stuffit > can read the data and resource portions of these formats and construct the > proper Macintosh file format. MacBinary and BinHex are standard formats for Mac file exchange over non-Macs. The latter is designed for use with email or other environments where 7-bit ASCII is a constraint. > One solution for distributing Adobe Acrobat Reader, is to provide the > CD-ROM from Adobe with that product. This does not provide a solution for > properly identifying my PDF file as associated with that application. > However, by launching Acrobat Reader and then using the open menu, the PDF > file may be opened without regard to file type. > > To automatically identify file types, I need an HFS CD-ROM or a hybrid > ISO-9660/HFS CD-ROM. ...or just ISO 9660 with Apple Extensions. > ISO-9660/HFS can either duplicate my data or can place > it on the disk once and provide both file structures for it. former (duplicate data) = non-shared hybrid latter (shared data) = shared hybrid > The alternative approach is to use only the ISO-9660 format. Files would be > converted to MacBinary format (so they would need to be stored twice, once > for PC and once for Mac. Also, Stuffit would need to be supplied on the > disk to restore the files to native HFS format on the Mac. Unfortunately, I > do not yet understand how to install Stuffit on a Mac since in the ISO-9660 > format, it cannot be rendered in executable form. You are correct--this is a catch 22! You can't supply an executable, so you must supply a MacBinary, so you must supply an executable MacBinary decoder, but you can't supply it, because it's executable. > My inclination is to try to create a hybrid with my PDF file (not > duplicated) and both the Windows 95 and Macintosh versions of Adobe Acrobat > Reader. That should be the best of all worlds. > > The tools available on the web are at: > > http://www.ps.ucl.ac.uk/~jcpearso/mkhybrid.html (the free product) > http://www.macdisk.com/hybriden.htm (the commercial product, and lots of > technical information) See also http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Technology/CD-R/FAQ.html for a very thorough reference of tools. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 22:17:18-GMT,2617;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17473 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:17:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17551; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:21:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:16:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17324; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:16:11 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:55:44 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <21205201506811@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory, Thanks for all the additional clarification and information. I have only one question. > As posted earlier, no. ISO 9660 supports both resource forks and type/creator > by way of Apple Extensions to ISO 9660, which are really just a specific > implementation method of the standard. > > Prepared in this way, files are fully functional on the Mac. The real trick, > and I'm using the proper terminology now, is to find non-Mac software that > *fully* supports Apple Extensions to ISO 9660. The software that I am intending to use is the PC version of the UNIX mkhybrid program. According to the documentation it will make either a hybrid (shared) ISO 9660/HFS or ISO 9660 with Apple's extensions. HFS appears have been in use longer than Apple's extensions. Also HFS can represent some information that Apple's extensions cannot (I do not think this is significant for my needs). I am intending to use the HFS hybrid format for wider compatibility. However, this does raise one question. Will all versions of the Macintosh operating system support Apple's extensions? > See also http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Technology/CD-R/FAQ.html for a very > thorough reference of tools. Special thanks for the additional URL. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 22:18:46-GMT,4076;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17544 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:18:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18895; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:46:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:42:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18670; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:42:31 -0500 X-Sender: osa\fharri\fharris@mail.osa.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:00:25 -0400 To: "Hayhurst, Stephen D" From: fharri@osa.org (Frank Harris) Subject: [PDF] Re: QT incompatibility Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Stephen, Exchange is very good about looking inside the .MOV file and making sure that it really is a movie file in good working order. My first guess is that your .MOV file is corrupted. Try opening it in Movie Player and playing it on both Mac and PC. In the last year I've seen about 480 author-submitted movie clips, and I think I've seen most of the file conversion errors that can be made at this time. I've seen files with MOV extensions that were actually Zipped, GZIPed, tarred, stuffed, or ARJed. I've seen AVIs, MPEGs, GIFs, and Photoshop animations that were mistakenly renamed as MOVs. Sometimes opening a copy of the file in BBEdit and looking at the first line will tell you what it really is. If your clip plays, use Movie Player Get Info and look up the kind of compression used. It may be a QT 3.0 movie (using the superb Sorenson or H234 codecs), or a movie that uses a proprietary commercial codec, even a hardware codec. Most video capture boards come with proprietary codecs and software. If this is the case, the file can be saved in 2.x-compatible format. Video codec is your safest bet. Codec translates roughly as "compressor/decompressor." The beauty of QuickTime is that you can improve it by using better, commercial codecs. There are about 6 that come standard with QT2.x, and another 4 or 5 that have been added to QT3.0, and another 20 to 50 commercial codecs of varying quality and expense. (Jurrasic Park was done with stock QuickTime, hot roded with custom hardware and hardware-dependent codecs, so far as I know.) People who do a lot of video as a hobby, tend to pick up the non-standard free and cheap codecs that are available. They give me the most trouble. I have to ask them to redo their videos in the video codec, and resend. That's my advice, Frank >Hi there: > >I'm still having a problem with QT 2.x and Acrobat 3.01. When I try to >set the MOV link in a PDF, it tells me that the file is not a Movie >file. Any ideas? Adobe, as usual is mute on this topic... > >TIA > > > >--Steve Hayhurst >_______________________________________ >Stephen Hayhurst >Process & Marketing Support Analyst--CamTek >Bldg 10-65.2 26D8 phone: 425.965.1124 or page: 206.986.3048 >E-mail: stephen.hayhurst@pss.boeing.com or 2069863048@mobile.att.net >Standard Disclaimer applies. >"I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe." -- Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org 2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org ------------------------- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 22:35:22-GMT,4085;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18194 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:35:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20363; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:17:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:13:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20186; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:13:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:04:56 -0400 Message-ID: <000DB801.1618@bowne.com> From: Michael.Lee@bowne.com (Michael Lee) Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] pdfmark & bookmarks To: , "David M. Davisson" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi David, Thanks for the info. I will check that out tonight. Michael Lee ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] pdfmark & bookmarks Author: "David M. Davisson" at Internet-Express Date: 4/20/98 7:52 AM Michael, If you want bookmarks with subordinates to be closed when viewed, use a negative number for the count value. [/Count -2 /Page 1 /View [/XYZ 44 730 1.0] /Title (NODE 1) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (Subnode 1) /OUT pdfmark [/Count -2 /Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (Subnode 2) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (SubSubnode 1) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (SubSubnode 2) /OUT pdfmark [/Count -2 /Page 1 /View [/XYZ 44 730 1.0] /Title (NODE 2) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (Subnode 1) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] /Title (Subnode 2) /OUT pdfmark This will display as: NODE 1 NODE 2 Changing the count value to a positive 2 will display as: NODE 1 Subnode 1 Subnode 2 SubSubNode 1 SubSubNode 2 NODE 2 Subnode 1 Subnode 2 David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Michael Lee > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 1998 9:59 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] pdfmark & bookmarks > Importance: High > > > > Hi All, > I have a set of pdfmark commands that will display the bookmarks > with the PDF file is open: > %----Make BookMarks Show > [ /PageMode /UseOutlines > /Page 1 /View [/XYZ null null 0] > /DOCVIEW pdfmark > %---End > > This will display the bookmarks like so: > Node1 > sub1 > sub2 > subsub1 > subsub2 > Node2 > sub1 > sub2 > > But I would rather have the bookmarks show like this: > Node1 > Node2 > ..... > Is this possible. If so, what do I need to add. Thanks for any help. > > Michael Lee > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 22:50:34-GMT,2483;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18627 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:50:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA21028; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:34:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:30:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20861; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:30:18 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:29:23 -0700 From: "Cutler, Wendy HR:EX" Subject: Re: [PDF] HTML 3.2 Reference in PDF File To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <2B38D2AA1790D1119BB200805F1529E805D8B4@jet.bcsc.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-type: text/plain X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This page: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/ has a link to the HTML 4.0 specification which is offered in several formats, including pdf. It has a section on differences from earlier versions, so it may be useful. I was told there's also info on these pages if you route around a little. http://www.microsoft.com http://www.netscape.com * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler, Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Human Resources (604) 660-1591 mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca from OV: EXCH01(wcutler) - -----Original Message----- From: Hedley Finger Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 9:14 AM Subject: [PDF] HTML 3.2 Reference in PDF File? > > >Can anyone point me to an HTML 3.2 reference, please? It needs to have a >table of Contents, an Index, and cross-references between related tags. >That way I can use it as on-line help or print out a book with page >numbers, running heads, etc. So an Acrobat PDF file would fill the bill. * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler, Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Human Resources (604) 660-1591 > mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca from OV: EXCH01(wcutler) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Apr-1998 23:15:17-GMT,5165;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19457 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:15:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA22072; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:01:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:57:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21906; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:57:36 -0500 Message-ID: <353BD300.515AEC01@denovolit.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:58:08 -0700 From: michaeln@denovolit.com (Michael Nevarez) Organization: De Novo Litigation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: "'laufer@inf.puc-rio.br'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Converters to PDF References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03202B@ARTHUR> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------16724B2F51AA007A00BACD06" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------16724B2F51AA007A00BACD06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karl, What is the name/where at your web site is the batch conversion utility we discussed. Couldn't find it. Thanks in advance. Karl De Abrew wrote: > Laufer, > > The Acrobat Distiller converts PS to PDF and can be setup to use a > 'watched folder'. This will allow you to process your postscript files > in a batch [This product comes with Acrobat 3.0] > > With respect to your second question, here is an example of a very > simple Microsoft Word 97 macro which you could use to convert all of the > RTF documents in a folder called 'c:\worddocstoconvert' to ps [and > consequently using the distiller to pdf]. > > You could extend this macro to save the postscript file directly into a > watched folder [perhaps c:\worddocstoconvert\in] with minimal effort. > > I hope this helps. > > Sub PrintAllWordToPS() > ' Date: 16 Apr 1998 > ' Author: Karl De Abrew > ' http://www.roundtable.com.au/ > > Dim strFileName As String > Dim strPath As String > > ' Replace this with your word doc > strPath = "c:\worddocstoconvert\" > > ' Get the first word doc in the directory > strFileName = Dir(strPath + "*.doc", vbNormal) > > Do While strFileName <> "" > Documents.Open FileName:=strPath + strFileName > Documents(strFileName).PrintOut PrintToFile:=True, > outputfilename:=strPath + Left(strFileName, Len(strFileName) - 3) + "ps" > Documents.Close > ' Get the next word doc in the directory > strFileName = Dir > Loop > > End Sub > > regards, > > Karl De Abrew > karl@roundtable.com.au > Round Table Solutions - Have you signed up with AcroBuddies > http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laufer [mailto:laufer@inf.puc-rio.br] > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 8:13 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Converters to PDF > > hi, > > My name is Laufer and I'm a researcher at LES (Software Engeneering Lab) > at > PUC-Rio, Brazil. We here have a distance learning project called AulaNet > and we are lookimg for a script to convert files from PS to PDF or from > RTF > to PDF. > > Can anybody help me? > > thank you, laufer > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > + > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------16724B2F51AA007A00BACD06 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Nevarez, Michael R. Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Michael R. Nevarez n: Nevarez;Michael R. org: De Novo Litigation Support Services, Inc. adr: P.O. Box 281678;;;San Francisco;CA;94128-1678;U.S.A. email;internet: michaeln@denovolit.com title: Vice President of Operations, Secretary and General Counsel tel;work: (650) 692-9214 tel;fax: (650) 692-9216 tel;home: N/A note: >Expert Technical Support and Imaging Services< x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------16724B2F51AA007A00BACD06-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Apr-1998 0:07:34-GMT,2791;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21062 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:07:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA24110; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:46:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:40:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23796; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:40:16 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <353B754E.60A@amfam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 01:02:40 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] "Form Fields Update" Cc: "Dan O'Connor" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dan, from my experience with Exchange on the Mac, it always asks whether to save the file when it has been changed. However, I can imagine one case when this is not quite true. When you change exactly one field and you don't leave it before closing the document. Modifications to a field are accepted only when you leave the field. One workaround would be to put a "To the Next User" button (which essentially closes the file). When you click on a button, you did implicitely leave the previous text field ... and then the field gets updated. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ___________ >We are running into a problem with a "Form" which is passed among >several users, all using Exchange. One person starts the form, filling >multiple fields and passes it on to others for additional information >and perhaps changes to data already entered. Works fine. But -- we >recently discovered some data being lost and tracked it back to the fact >that if you change or add data to a form field and select "close", the >pdf is closed without update. The data is only saved if you select "save >as". This seems to be outside the typical GUI standards where any >"close" of a changed file requests varification. > >Anyway around this problem? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Apr-1998 11:17:40-GMT,2370;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28067 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:17:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA14410; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:57:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:51:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14208; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:51:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199804211039.FAA03434@mustang.fidnet.com> X-Sender: mueller@mail.fidnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:48:12 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randall Mueller Subject: [PDF] Spot won't come home Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Here is the scenario: Macintosh 8.01 running Acrobat 3.0. QuarkXpress 4.02 PSprinter 8.31 (had 8.4 then tried the one from CD) Selecting AvantraSelect25 processor and Distiller as PPD One tiff file, repeated once, divided in two so one half is "blue" and the other half is 202 burgundy. Page setup: selected distiller for printer type Printed as .ps with sep off, smooth graphic off, no fonts, to file. Distiller setup: selected distill with pro and epilog, medium--low jpg, set up a number of ways on other selections. (interesting, won't use pro and epilog with "watch folder, only if selecting direct for distilling?) Opened in Exchange, using CrackerJack 1.1 plug in, Spot does not show up? I have tried every type of set up but nothing seems to work to get the spot colors to show up, even if printing with seps on, they show in page, but not in crackerJack? Had to re-install crackerJack after install of system 8.1, placed plug in in acrobat and colorbars in preferences...any ideas??? Please respond to my work email: magnet@usmo.com Randall mueller@fidnet.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Apr-1998 12:32:06-GMT,2715;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA00957 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 06:32:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA17674; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:15:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:11:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17497; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:11:24 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:12:12 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: tomg@krest.co.uk (Tom Griffiths, Krest Graphics) Subject: Re: [PDF] Spot won't come home Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tue, Apr 21, 1998, 10:48:12 am GMT Randall Mueller wrote: >Here is the scenario: > >Macintosh 8.01 running Acrobat 3.0. >QuarkXpress 4.02 >PSprinter 8.31 (had 8.4 then tried the one from CD) >Selecting AvantraSelect25 processor and Distiller as PPD >One tiff file, repeated once, divided in two so one half is "blue" and the >other half is 202 burgundy. >Page setup: selected distiller for printer type >Printed as .ps with sep off, smooth graphic off, no fonts, to file. > >Distiller setup: selected distill with pro and epilog, medium--low jpg, set >up a number of ways on other selections. >(interesting, won't use pro and epilog with "watch folder, only if >selecting direct for distilling?) >Opened in Exchange, using CrackerJack 1.1 plug in, Spot does not show up? > >I have tried every type of set up but nothing seems to work to get the spot >colors to show up, even if printing with seps on, they show in page, but >not in crackerJack? >Had to re-install crackerJack after install of system 8.1, placed plug in >in acrobat and colorbars in preferences...any ideas??? > >Please respond to my work email: magnet@usmo.com > >Randall > >mueller@fidnet.com > Did you try just checking compress text and line art in the compressions settings in job options in distiller. We find these settings work quite well for high res printing ======================================================= Tom Griffiths - Krest Graphics Digital Print Tel (+44) (0)1494 472732 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Apr-1998 15:26:35-GMT,3170;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06375 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:26:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA26365; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:03:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:55:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25796; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:55:57 -0500 Message-ID: <353CB5A3.C8FE679@lsijax.com> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:05:08 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are trying to create a searchable (i.e. Normal) PDF from an Interleaf 6 document that resides on a Unix. This document contains the fonts 'Swiss' and 'Thames'. We converted the document into postscript using an HP 4V ps driver and then distilled it. The file distills normally with NO errors. However, it isn't searchable - it's been made image-only. We've tried embedding all fonts with the same results - NO errors and NOT searchable. I have access to a Windows platform that is also loaded with Adobe Acrobat (both Exchange, etc. and Capture) but I don't have the required fonts on this machine. I have been focusing on the 'font' as causing the problem but if I'm missing something obvious, please help. If there are any suggestions, I'd appreciate them. I've browsed the archives and Aandi, you once mentioned to someone else on a font problem that they might be able to change the font in the postscript file. I would like to avoid this option if possible since it's necessary for the PDF and the printed output (printed from Interleaf) match. We could change the fonts in Interleaf but that would require much more time than we have to modify illustrations/page breaks/etc... (it's a technical manual). If my last option is to change the font in the postscript file, how do I go about it? I've opened it up in a text editor, but do I just change the tag '/PSOwstswissb' and what do I change it to? I am not very familiar with Distiller, nor PS, so any info would help (if it's basic - good, just email directly to me). Thanks, Tracie DeVoe +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Apr-1998 15:33:34-GMT,4782;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06668 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:33:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA27477; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:23:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:19:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27245; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:19:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] @PJL lines in Postscript General header comments Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:20:02 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 My understanding is that with the 3.0 version of Distiller, Adobe allows the HP PCL code and ignores it! Thank you, Fred W Epps Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: Sarunas[SMTP:sarunas@ktl.mii.lt] > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 12:38 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] @PJL lines in Postscript General header > comments > > > Hi, for HP LaserJet 5PS on WInNT I wasn't able to find 'Archive > format'. So > ps file still contained PCL lines. But it distilled without problems > (Distiller 3.02 on WinNT). > > At 02:11 PM 4/15/98 -0400, you wrote: > > > >As other replies have stated this HP PCL codes are put there by the > HP PS > >driver since the HP4 printers default to HP PCL instead of > postscript. You > >should be able to turn this off in the printer properties by > selecting the > >Archive format for the PostScript output. While the apple Laserwriter > is a > >more generic postscript driver I still like and use the HP driver for > >producing postscript files for distilling. > > > >At 05:26 PM 4/15/98 +0100, you wrote: > >> > >>Hi - I've created PostScript files in FrameMaker 5.1.2 (Windows 95) > using > >>Adobe PS 4.2 Printer Driver + HP 4V/4MV ppd. > >> > >>The first four lines of the ps file reads as follows: > >> > >>helenw@pisa% head 4811.ps > >>-12345X@PJL JOB > >>@PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 > >>@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT > >>%!PS-Adobe-3.1 > >> > >>Does anyone know why the HP printer driver puts the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 > line on > >>line 4? According to the PS Reference manual this line must be on > line 1. > >> > >>I want the %!PS-Adobe-3.1 line to be on line 1 - does anyone know > what > >>properties I should change to create the following order of lines: > >> > >>%!PS-Adobe-3.1 > >>-12345X@PJL JOB > >>@PJL SET RESOLUTION = 600 > >>@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT > >> > >>thanks, > >>Helen Watchorn > >>helenw@informix.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----+ > >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > >>+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > >>+------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----+ > >> > >> > >_____________________________________________________________________ > > > > Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. > > Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive > > Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA > > Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 > >____________________________________________________________________ > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > > > Sarunas Burdulis > VTEX Typesetting and Electronic Publishing > sarunas@ktl.mii.lt > +370 2 729609; +370 98 24498 > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Apr-1998 15:45:31-GMT,2477;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07093 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA26541; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:07:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:01:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26212; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:01:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:57:48 +0200 (METDST) From: Tomasz Przechlewski To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Bookmarks In-Reply-To: <35384F21.2993@document-solutions.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, It is said in Adobe TN 5150 ``pdfmark Reference Manual'' that when bookmark titles are displayed the encoding and character set used is the PDFDocEncoding as described in Appendix C of the Portable Document Format Ref Manual. I have made an experiment and used all 127 chars form the upper half and got absolutely different characters from those listed in appendix C. On Win95 (Polish version) the character set contains for example: aogonek, Aogonek, Eogonek, eogonek end more non standard glyphs. On the other side the same file displayed with acrored under Linux (4.1 Red Hat) have quite different character set with only few glyph above 127. So it seems that bookmarks are system dependent contrary what is said in Adobe Manuals. Can somebody enlight me what is the font used for bookmarks and how it can be changed (configured)? --tomek ===================================================================== Tomasz Przechlewski Department of Information Systems University of Gda\'nsk Armii Krajowej 119/121 fax: +48 58 50-25-49 81-824 SOPOT, POLAND e-mail: ekotp@univ.gda.pl ===================================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Apr-1998 16:41:47-GMT,3928;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09299 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:41:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA30949; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:26:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:22:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30698; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:22:19 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565ED.00596061.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:20:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tracie: I can't begin to imagine the cause of the problem, but do have one comment. If the end PDF product must look like the interleaf document you might want to create your PDF file as "normal with hidden text". This way you'll be sure that the appearance of the PDF document will remain identical to the Interleaf document. Sue "Tracie K. DeVoe" on 04/21/98 08:05:08 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: PDF List cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts We are trying to create a searchable (i.e. Normal) PDF from an Interleaf 6 document that resides on a Unix. This document contains the fonts 'Swiss' and 'Thames'. We converted the document into postscript using an HP 4V ps driver and then distilled it. The file distills normally with NO errors. However, it isn't searchable - it's been made image-only. We've tried embedding all fonts with the same results - NO errors and NOT searchable. I have access to a Windows platform that is also loaded with Adobe Acrobat (both Exchange, etc. and Capture) but I don't have the required fonts on this machine. I have been focusing on the 'font' as causing the problem but if I'm missing something obvious, please help. If there are any suggestions, I'd appreciate them. I've browsed the archives and Aandi, you once mentioned to someone else on a font problem that they might be able to change the font in the postscript file. I would like to avoid this option if possible since it's necessary for the PDF and the printed output (printed from Interleaf) match. We could change the fonts in Interleaf but that would require much more time than we have to modify illustrations/page breaks/etc... (it's a technical manual). If my last option is to change the font in the postscript file, how do I go about it? I've opened it up in a text editor, but do I just change the tag '/PSOwstswissb' and what do I change it to? I am not very familiar with Distiller, nor PS, so any info would help (if it's basic - good, just email directly to me). Thanks, Tracie DeVoe +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Apr-1998 17:36:56-GMT,2180;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11527 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:36:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01361; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:21:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:13:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00860; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:13:50 -0500 X-Sender: dstabb@mail.pit-magnus.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:23:44 -0400 To: pdf-l@emrg.com From: "David Stabb" Subject: [PDF] Unable to Get Color PDF out of PowerPoint Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Any ideas or known bugs? I can't get a color distillation (it goes grayscale) out of PowerPoint on Macintosh Office98. I've tried pretty much everything, including setting up a color printer (a Cyclone) using the Acrobat PPD. Have tried Fiery XJ and Iris color as well, have fooled with options such as opticolor, contone, and halftone. No setting seems to work. Changing from PostScript Color/Grayscale to PostScript color matching has no effect. Nor does going to Business Graphics output options. The Fiery and the Iris generated 15 mb postscript files, and the Iris isn't anything BUT color. The source files are pict files in color. Default printer is a Laserwriter 12/630. ____|)avid / Progressive Information Technologies David Stabb / 315 Busser Road Director, New Media & / Emigsville, PA 17318 Electronic Products / Information Architects for Publishing +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Apr-1998 18:30:28-GMT,1970;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13377 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:30:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04249; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:14:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:10:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04019; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:10:24 -0500 X-Sender: dstabb@mail.pit-magnus.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <353CE8CB.355DD6EA@hgservices.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:20:24 -0400 To: pdf-l@emrg.com From: "David Stabb" Subject: [PDF] Re:Unable to Get Color PDF out of PowerPoint Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dani- Thank you I didn't catch the Black and White box in the PowerPoint dialog box. >I was curious, so I tried myself since I hadn't yet tried to make a pdf >from Powerpoint 98. It worked fine. I was curious, were you not >getting ANY color at all? Or just the pict files you mentioned? Was >the black and white only box in the print menu unchecked? How did you >make your postscript file to distill? > > >Dani ____|)avid / Progressive Information Technologies David Stabb / 315 Busser Road Director, New Media & / Emigsville, PA 17318 Electronic Products / Information Architects for Publishing +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Apr-1998 23:46:29-GMT,1987;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24890 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:46:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA18899; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:27:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:22:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18655; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:22:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199804212326.SAA24643@mustang.fidnet.com> X-Sender: mueller@mail.fidnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:19:41 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randall Mueller Subject: Re: [PDF] Spot won't come home In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 07:12 AM 4/21/98 , you wrote: >>Here is the scenario: >> >>Macintosh 8.01 running Acrobat 3.0. >>QuarkXpress 4.02 >>PSprinter 8.31 (had 8.4 then tried the one from CD) >>Selecting AvantraSelect25 processor and Distiller as PPD >>One tiff file, repeated once, divided in two so one half is "blue" and the > Well, I did figure this much out...took a tiff and colored it in quark, saved as eps, brought it back in as a picture and it showed as spot in crackerJack, but justed colored in quark it would not show spots?? If I just typed some words and then distilled with same settings...it works fine Randall mueller@fidnet.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Apr-1998 23:46:30-GMT,1890;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24897 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:46:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19149; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:34:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:30:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19049; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:30:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199804212334.SAA25344@mustang.fidnet.com> X-Sender: mueller@mail.fidnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:28:08 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randall Mueller Subject: Re: [PDF] Spot won't come home In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 07:12 AM 4/21/98 , you wrote: >> >Did you try just checking compress text and line art in the compressions >settings in job options in distiller. > >We find these settings work quite well for high res printing > > >======================================================= >Tom Griffiths - Krest Graphics Digital Print >Tel (+44) (0)1494 472732 Tom, With these settings, do you use CrackerJack, printing at 1800dpi, both spot and 4CP jobs? Is this could enough for compression and get through the rip faster? Randall mueller@fidnet.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 3:02:16-GMT,2273;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00652 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:02:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA25825; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:43:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:36:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25546; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:36:17 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980420065927.00807e40@mailhost.fourgen.com> References: <353B31AE.6C3753B1@avenza.com> <000401bd6c48$29656d40$b5f582c1@gateway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 22:37:13 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Geneva>As of last August (according to Adobe) 20 million copies of Reader had been >downloaded. When Acrobat 3 came out (11/96), 40,000 people per day were >downloading Reader. I recently searched for statistics on this same topic >and came up empty. > I do not have the running total of Reader downloads but was able to find last month's stats from our web site: Reader Downloads 03/16-03/22 532,210 03/09-03/15 455,621 03/02-03/08 446,371 02/23-03/01 541,652 Perhaps someone else from Adobe has current totals. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Geneva -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 7:52:22-GMT,2477;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26521 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 01:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA01523; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 02:38:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 02:33:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01359; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 02:33:21 -0500 Message-ID: <353D98FD.6958@document-solutions.com> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 00:15:10 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat References: <353B31AE.6C3753B1@avenza.com> <000401bd6c48$29656d40$b5f582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Gary: I don't presume to tell you guys what to do.... but we (the PDF community, that is) NEED these numbers! I mean, do you folks know what a sucessful viewer Reader is? At the rates you quoted, each month means about 2 million downloads. Not bad... Who's next, quark immedia? Tumbleweed? Give me a break. We must be looking at 50+ million downloads at this point, with 20 million announced in 11/96. Time for a press release! Duff Johnson, DSI --Mr. 2 cents-- Gary Cosimini wrote: > I do not have the running total of Reader downloads but was able to > find last month's stats from our web site: > > Reader Downloads > 03/16-03/22 532,210 > 03/09-03/15 455,621 > 03/02-03/08 446,371 > 02/23-03/01 541,652 > > Perhaps someone else from Adobe has current totals. > > Gary Cosimini > Adobe Systems -- Regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Ave., Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 (510) 986-0250 -- Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com -- www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 12:29:54-GMT,3351;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03342 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 06:29:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA08760; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:08:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:03:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08550; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:03:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dyer, Shawn" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:04:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In fact, I have gotten several copies of Reader with technical documentation (in PDF) on CD. So, these don't show up at all in those stats, and probably account for a significant number of the Readers in use out there. Shawn Dyer *************************************************************** Any opinions expressed above are my own and do not necessarily represent those of H&R Block. *************************************************************** > -----Original Message----- > From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:duffj@document-solutions.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 2:15 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat > > > Gary: > > I don't presume to tell you guys what to do.... but we (the PDF > community, that is) NEED these numbers! I mean, do you folks know what > a sucessful viewer Reader is? > > At the rates you quoted, each month means about 2 million downloads. > Not bad... Who's next, quark immedia? Tumbleweed? Give me a break. > > We must be looking at 50+ million downloads at this point, with 20 > million announced in 11/96. Time for a press release! > > Duff Johnson, DSI > --Mr. 2 cents-- > > Gary Cosimini wrote: > > > I do not have the running total of Reader downloads but was able to > > find last month's stats from our web site: > > > > Reader Downloads > > 03/16-03/22 532,210 > > 03/09-03/15 455,621 > > 03/02-03/08 446,371 > > 02/23-03/01 541,652 > > > > Perhaps someone else from Adobe has current totals. > > > > Gary Cosimini > > Adobe Systems > > -- > > Regards, > > Duff Johnson > President, Document Solutions, Inc. > 1611 Telegraph Ave., Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 > (510) 986-0250 -- Fax: (510) 986-0636 > duffj@document-solutions.com -- www.document-solutions.com > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 12:30:31-GMT,1614;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03367 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 06:30:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA08759; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:08:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:01:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08469; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:01:36 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:02:28 -0500 To: From: keith.flanagan@ast.com Subject: [PDF] FAQ on converting POSTSCRIPT to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a framemaker 5.5 file which I need to convert to .pdf format. I understand I need to convert to a postscript file first, and then use Adobe Distiller. Is there any FAQ available on how to do this type of thing ? thanks Keith Flanagan Software Engineering AST Computer email : keith.flanagan@ast.com tel : +353 61 492457 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 12:38:21-GMT,4315;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03510 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 06:38:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA09322; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:21:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:16:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09112; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:16:53 -0500 Message-ID: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073C77AAA@exchptc1.switch.com> From: "Huston, Virgil H." To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:17:00 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I distribute Reader on CD as well. Plus, what about all the copies of Reader bundled with computer purchases? This is an important question. Those of us pushing PDF need these numbers to back up our recommendations. I'm currently fighting a battle with SGML proponents over which method is better for our purposes. Virgil > -----Original Message----- > From: Dyer, Shawn [SMTP:sdyer@hrblock.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 8:04 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat > > > In fact, I have gotten several copies of Reader with technical > documentation > (in PDF) on CD. So, these don't show up at all in those stats, and > probably > account for a significant number of the Readers in use out there. > > Shawn Dyer > *************************************************************** > Any opinions expressed above are my own and do not > necessarily represent those of H&R Block. > *************************************************************** > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:duffj@document-solutions.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 2:15 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: Re: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat > > > > > > Gary: > > > > I don't presume to tell you guys what to do.... but we (the PDF > > community, that is) NEED these numbers! I mean, do you folks know > what > > a sucessful viewer Reader is? > > > > At the rates you quoted, each month means about 2 million downloads. > > > Not bad... Who's next, quark immedia? Tumbleweed? Give me a break. > > > > We must be looking at 50+ million downloads at this point, with 20 > > million announced in 11/96. Time for a press release! > > > > Duff Johnson, DSI > > --Mr. 2 cents-- > > > > Gary Cosimini wrote: > > > > > I do not have the running total of Reader downloads but was able > to > > > find last month's stats from our web site: > > > > > > Reader Downloads > > > 03/16-03/22 532,210 > > > 03/09-03/15 455,621 > > > 03/02-03/08 446,371 > > > 02/23-03/01 541,652 > > > > > > Perhaps someone else from Adobe has current totals. > > > > > > Gary Cosimini > > > Adobe Systems > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Duff Johnson > > President, Document Solutions, Inc. > > 1611 Telegraph Ave., Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 > > (510) 986-0250 -- Fax: (510) 986-0636 > > duffj@document-solutions.com -- www.document-solutions.com > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 14:15:07-GMT,1803;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06303 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:15:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA15122; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:55:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:51:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14324; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:51:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] FAQ on converting POSTSCRIPT to PDF Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:46:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd6df5$a280b140$42f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I have a framemaker 5.5 file which I need to convert to > .pdf format. I > understand I need to convert to a postscript file first, > and then use > Adobe Distiller. True, but why not use Save As ... PDF in Frame 5.5 which will take care of this for you, if Frame has been fully installed. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 14:16:20-GMT,2830;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06345 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:16:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA15626; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:58:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:55:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15001; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:55:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980422085529.0069fa5c@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:55:43 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] Error in Catalog??? Cc: dloomis@omnipress.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Received an error msg " Internal Error has occured. Can't retrieve Results, Sorry" when trying to perform a wildcard search in the title field. This "*" search in the title field works fine for our PC's but not on the MAC. We are indexing about 600 documents and have tried Catalog on both the PC and MAC. The Mac catalog program would crash before completing the index. I have pulled down the documentation off of Adobes Cust support site referring to the Doc info filed must be less than 255 and that titles must be unique thru the first 64 characters. I have noticed that the doc info fields only hold 255 characters. Am I wrong with this? leading to my next question.. How does one have more than 255 characters in a field, when you can only have 255 characters in the field? We have also looked at the 1st 64 characters of title fields as well. What next? Do I index only 1/2 of the files, then 1/2 of those files, then etc. and continue to do this until I nail down the culprit? Why does this work on the PC side and not the MAC. Our company is not new to PDF and we crank out many different pdf files and indexes, thus my troubleshooting shovel digs again. Kind of like the "Bad Parameter" issue. Feedback is welcome! Thanks! Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS ph: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 check us out -- 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.omnipress.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 14:16:31-GMT,2275;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06352 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA15123; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:55:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:51:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14296; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:51:02 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:49:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bd6df5$a41b2760$42f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073C77AAA@exchptc1.switch.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Although CDROM distributions are important, I don't think any useful figure can be obtained because. 1. Who knows how many CDROMs are distributed? Nobody tells Adobe or anyone else when they redistribute the Reader. 2. Who knows how many of the people receiving the Reader already have it. The web figures are very impressive, especially as there should be no duplication - not many people will download a copy that they already have. > > I distribute Reader on CD as well. Plus, what about all the copies of > Reader bundled with computer purchases? This is an important question. > Those of us pushing PDF need these numbers to back up our > recommendations. I'm currently fighting a battle with SGML proponents > over which method is better for our purposes. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 14:32:44-GMT,2107;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06915 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:32:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA17154; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:22:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:18:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16841; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:18:01 -0500 X-Sender: goran%acne.se@incab.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:17:49 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran?= Lindgren Subject: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA16838 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, We are two students at the division of Media Technology and Graphic Arts at the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm. We are currently working on a report about PDF. We have basic knowledge of the format and we realize the benefits of it concerning platform independence and graphic representation. Now we want to dig deeper into the format and its qualities. What we would like to know is what this forum believes is the major limits and possibilities of the format today. There are many contradictions in the debate and we find it difficult to identify the real major problems of the format. We would be very pleased if you replied to this mailing list or directly to us. Sincerely, Goran Lindgren Carl Vad-Schutt +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 15:06:51-GMT,3284;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08175 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA18471; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:45:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:41:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18201; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:41:30 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <353D98FD.6958@document-solutions.com> References: <353B31AE.6C3753B1@avenza.com> <000401bd6c48$29656d40$b5f582c1@gateway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:42:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Duff: Indeed. Certainly we have evidence that Acrobat is the most widely used viewer, we should broadcast it. I'll ask somebody to work on this. We're also doing a project this summer to spider out all the PDF files and pages on the Web. This should also be an interesting number. Gary >Gary: > >I don't presume to tell you guys what to do.... but we (the PDF >community, that is) NEED these numbers! I mean, do you folks know what >a sucessful viewer Reader is? > >At the rates you quoted, each month means about 2 million downloads. >Not bad... Who's next, quark immedia? Tumbleweed? Give me a break. > >We must be looking at 50+ million downloads at this point, with 20 >million announced in 11/96. Time for a press release! > >Duff Johnson, DSI >--Mr. 2 cents-- > >Gary Cosimini wrote: > >> I do not have the running total of Reader downloads but was able to >> find last month's stats from our web site: >> >> Reader Downloads >> 03/16-03/22 532,210 >> 03/09-03/15 455,621 >> 03/02-03/08 446,371 >> 02/23-03/01 541,652 >> >> Perhaps someone else from Adobe has current totals. >> >> Gary Cosimini >> Adobe Systems > >-- > >Regards, > >Duff Johnson >President, Document Solutions, Inc. >1611 Telegraph Ave., Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 >(510) 986-0250 -- Fax: (510) 986-0636 >duffj@document-solutions.com -- www.document-solutions.com > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 15:13:07-GMT,3067;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08469 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:13:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19377; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:00:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:56:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19066; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:56:32 -0500 Message-ID: <353E0537.EB399F0C@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:56:55 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Error in Catalog??? References: <3.0.32.19980422085529.0069fa5c@omnipress.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Christopher Uschan wrote: > > Received an error msg " Internal Error has occured. Can't retrieve > Results, Sorry" when trying to perform a wildcard search in the > title field. This "*" search in the title field works fine for our > PC's but not on the MAC. This is a known bug, as you later state. Careful, though; the PC version just manifests the bug in a different way. According to my testing, whereas the Mac gives the error message, the PC just simply returns one of the several documents that share the same 64-characater title prefix. So even though no error is given, your search results are missing some items. > I have pulled down the documentation off of Adobes Cust support site > referring to the Doc info filed must be less than 255 and that titles > must be unique thru the first 64 characters. > > I have noticed that the doc info fields only hold 255 characters. Am I > wrong with this? leading to my next question.. How does one have more > than 255 characters in a field, when you can only have 255 characters in the field? Clearly it is the *second* condition, 64-character uniqueness, that affects you, then...8) > We have also looked at the 1st 64 characters of title fields as well. > > What next? The only solution I've been able to find was to track down those documents which share the same 64-character title prefix and change their titles. Then re-index the entire collection. The first 64 characters of a document's title MUST be unique to that document. Given your situation, tracking down the culprits can take many forms...enter creativity. In our UNIX environment, I was able to whip up a Perl script to do my dirty work. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 15:30:10-GMT,4382;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09171 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:30:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20048; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:16:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:12:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19782; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:12:05 -0500 From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:18:00 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <98Apr22.070831edt.115593@gateway.lrp.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi, I have to agree with you on this. I have been working with prepress for most of my career until recently switching to a publishing company. I am very Acrobat saavy from developing for a prepress company, but now I'm finding the publishing community does shy away from Acrobat for a variety of reasons. Probably the biggest reason would be their databases are not set up to entertain an Acrobat format, but rather they are set up for SGML or comparable conversion language. Also, a lot of the vendors that handle SGML, etc. for Internet databases do not (and don't seem to have it as a priority either) handle Acrobat full text search along with normal database searches. So one cannot combine the two formats in a database server such as Folio over the Internet. Personally, I was disappointed to learn of this. I now spend a lot of time trying to successfully extract the data from PDF files. Point, of course, being that from my experience if you can use Acrobat files (and you should do your research for it's value to your product) and are not already locked into another database structure, definitely use them. There are many 3rd party companies that have developed search engines, plug-ins, etc. to really enhance the value of a pdf format. However, I think the only drawback would be that Reader doesn't support many of the plug-ins which makes it difficult to develop a full, multimedia and enhanced CD-ROM project using Acrobat. I know I've done it several times. Difficult but can be done. Hope this helps for those folks who might not be sure whether to go SGML or .pdf. Do remember that Adobe also supports SGML formatting through several of its products (ie., Framemaker). So I'm not sure knowing the amount of Readers distributed really makes a different. It is a viewly used format and you can go on the Internet and see that. It really depends on what your goals are for your data! Donna ---------- From: Aandi Inston To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat Date: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 9:49AM Although CDROM distributions are important, I don't think any useful figure can be obtained because. 1. Who knows how many CDROMs are distributed? Nobody tells Adobe or anyone else when they redistribute the Reader. 2. Who knows how many of the people receiving the Reader already have it. The web figures are very impressive, especially as there should be no duplication - not many people will download a copy that they already have. > > I distribute Reader on CD as well. Plus, what about all the copies of > Reader bundled with computer purchases? This is an important question. > Those of us pushing PDF need these numbers to back up our > recommendations. I'm currently fighting a battle with SGML proponents > over which method is better for our purposes. Aandi +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 15:42:18-GMT,4100;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09670 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:42:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20708; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:27:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:23:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20453; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:23:15 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980422102338.006be848@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:23:49 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: Re: [PDF] Error in Catalog??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory- Crystal clear on this one now. We are doing the dirty work reindexing over and over, etc and almost to the culprit... This leads me to my Acrobat WISH LIST of "Printing the Search Results List", however, When I leave the wish list, milk and cookies out for the ADOBE Santa, I am am again disappointed to see that my request is of course unfullfilled, cookies gone and milk glass empty! Thanks : ) At 10:56 AM 4/22/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Christopher Uschan wrote: >> >> Received an error msg " Internal Error has occured. Can't retrieve >> Results, Sorry" when trying to perform a wildcard search in the >> title field. This "*" search in the title field works fine for our >> PC's but not on the MAC. > >This is a known bug, as you later state. > >Careful, though; the PC version just manifests the bug in a different way. >According to my testing, whereas the Mac gives the error message, the PC just >simply returns one of the several documents that share the same 64-characater >title prefix. So even though no error is given, your search results are missing >some items. > >> I have pulled down the documentation off of Adobes Cust support site >> referring to the Doc info filed must be less than 255 and that titles >> must be unique thru the first 64 characters. >> >> I have noticed that the doc info fields only hold 255 characters. Am I >> wrong with this? leading to my next question.. How does one have more >> than 255 characters in a field, when you can only have 255 characters in the field? > >Clearly it is the *second* condition, 64-character uniqueness, that affects you, >then...8) > >> We have also looked at the 1st 64 characters of title fields as well. >> >> What next? > >The only solution I've been able to find was to track down those documents which >share the same 64-character title prefix and change their titles. Then re-index >the entire collection. The first 64 characters of a document's title MUST be >unique to that document. > >Given your situation, tracking down the culprits can take many forms...enter >creativity. In our UNIX environment, I was able to whip up a Perl script to do >my dirty work. > >Cory Snavely >The Beacon Group >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS ph: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 check us out -- 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.omnipress.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 15:43:07-GMT,3516;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09704 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:43:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20709; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:27:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:23:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20482; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:23:25 -0500 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Message-Id: <"0422152321-Re: PDF Thoughts on PDF"@MHS> Date: 22 Apr 1998 10:19:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >What we would like to know is what this forum believes is the major limits >and possibilities of the format today. There are many contradictions in the >debate and we find it difficult to identify the real major problems of the >format. Limitations: 1) 32,000 page limit per single document 2) Lack of structure (SGML/XML support hidden within the page-by-page structure). It would be useful to be able to say, "Find all the synthesis reports that use 'acetone' in the materials section" or "Find all the clinical reports that mention 'seizure' in the serious adverse events section." 3) Slipstreamed versions. Right now, we have 2.1, 3.0, 3.0.1 and 3.0.1 with Forms Version 3.5 floating around the company and our customer (regulatory agencies). The capabilities for authors are limited to the least common denominator. 4) Inability to view multiple separate pages of the same document on screen at the same time [workaround: Extract pages, then use the Window commands to show both windows. Slow and ugly.] 5) Extraction of tabular data is difficult, and only slightly improved by 3rd-party plug-ins such as Aerial and Redwing. Those tools do a better job, but can be rather touch to use if the original table isn't strictly a rectangular grid. [i.e. hierarchical headers, or several detail lines associated with a single 'master' line] Possibilities: 1) The Javascript document model for PDF gives a huge range of capabilities to the PDF document. I haven't played with it much at all, but I'm intrigued by the potential. 2) The PDF document model already includes some opcodes for handling document structure. Right now it's only documented to support things like grouped items in an Illustrator document, but the SGML/XML-like structures I suggested above could be adapted to that model. 3) Delivery of electronic documents that are reliably printable for a long time to come is an astounding achievement. Just try printing a document from Microsoft Word that you created last year. Is your printer the same? Is your version of Word the same? Did it print *exactly* the same this time? Boy are you lucky if all those things can be answered "YES" Joel Finkle Sr. Systems Project Leader G.D. Searle A Monsanto Company joel.finkle@monsanto.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 15:52:24-GMT,2078;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10147 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:52:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21643; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:43:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:39:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21395; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:39:33 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Apr 98 08:39 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: (gcosimin@adobe.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Indeed. Certainly we have evidence that Acrobat is the most widely used > viewer, we should broadcast it. > >>At the rates you quoted, each month means about 2 million downloads. >>Not bad... Who's next, quark immedia? Tumbleweed? Give me a break. I will see if I can dig up corresponding numbers for Ghostscript. Of course, I have no way to know how many of these copies are being used to view / print / convert PDF files, and of course I don't have numbers on the many copies of Ghostscript distributed on CD-ROMs in the backs of books. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html * Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your e-mail and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net * +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 15:57:04-GMT,4418;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10357 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:57:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21855; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:47:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:43:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21655; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:43:40 -0500 Message-Id: <9804221543.AB00995@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Spot won't come home Date: Wed, 22 Apr 98 16:47:39 +0100 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , , , "Johan Struyfs" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Distiller setup: selected distill with pro and epilog, medium--low jpg, set >up a number of ways on other selections. >(interesting, won't use pro and epilog with "watch folder, only if >selecting direct for distilling?) >Opened in Exchange, using CrackerJack 1.1 plug in, Spot does not show up? > >I have tried every type of set up but nothing seems to work to get the spot >colors to show up, even if printing with seps on, they show in page, but >not in crackerJack? Spot actually got run over by the Driver. The PostScript Driver. Distiller just gave you a preview of poor old squished Spot. He never left home - and he is fine if you let him out separated as plates - lets me 'splain... >Had to re-install crackerJack after install of system 8.1, placed plug in >in acrobat and colorbars in preferences...any ideas??? Yes. Stop wasting your time. It will not work. It is broken before you even got to Distiller. Unless you preseparate from Quark Xpress and make plates and distill these plates (why you would do this is not very obvious) - this "approach" will not give you the result you are expecting - regardless if you use CrakerJack or not. While Quark seems to be colorizing a black and white tiff in your picturebox, when you print as as a separation (you know, when in the Quark Print dialog box, turn separations on) - the driver writes a black and white copy of that image to that plate, and thats that. Ink up the press with a color, and wa-la. This is how the tool works. If You print with separations turned off (as you would expect - you know, to make a composite PostScript file), it makes an indexed color space image, which will not separate properly (trust me on this one, it was written by the driver into Postscript composite, it is actually broken here at that stage - all distiller does is unveil this condition. Sorry - and if you colorize the background, and try and do a Duotone effect on a single image, again, this tool ASSUMES (better put, INSISTS) on you turning Separations on to yeild proper plates. The same is true using the PhotoShop Duotone Mode - this generates a single greyscale tiff with a "simulation" preview (to display in your Quark XPress picture box) and then places two transfer curves in that file header - so, if you place a Adobe PhotoShop Duotone in a Quark Picture box, and then turn speatations on, each plate is made using that spot colors transfer curve, and all is well - but if you turn seps off, well, Distiller can only apply on transfer curve per image - and it does so flawlessly, and ignores the second transfer curve (as it should) and you get a something different tan you expected or desired. Until Adobe (and Quark) can support DeviceN colorspace in several products, we must be patient. Sorry. Please reply to mikejahn@jahn.com Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa-Gevaert N.V. 200 Ballardvale St. MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P: 978.658.0200 ext 5504 I: www.jahn.org Cell Phone: 617.605.5716 F: 508.658.8982 (but don't send me a FAX -send a PDF file!) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 16:57:24-GMT,1802;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12778 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:57:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA24750; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:41:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:35:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24449; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:35:07 -0500 Message-ID: <003101bd6e04$457d3540$f74aaccf@mcglinn> From: "K McGlinn" To: Subject: [PDF] Color Logo Displays as Black Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:35:23 -0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm using FrameMaker 5.5 and the Distiller Assistant to create my .pdf files. I'm working on a file that contains a red logo (.pcx) and red text box. When I open the files with Exchange the logo color is now black, but the red text box is ok. If I use the PDFWriter, the logo comes over fine. Also, the red text box converted with the Distiller Assistant prints as black on an HP LaserJet 4 instead of grayscale. The red box prints ok when converted with the PDFWriter. Thanks K McGlinn kmcglinn@erols.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 17:31:58-GMT,1549;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14192 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26551; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:15:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:09:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26228; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:09:39 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:14:17 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: [PDF] "Select Area" enlarged Print Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, Has anyone found a feature or plugin that would allow the "selection of an area" in Acrobat Viewer, and print as an enlargment of that area only? Tiling will give me the whole image enlarged but no control over where the images area falls. Cheers Murray McCombs mmccombs@interlog.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 17:32:53-GMT,2422;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14238 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:32:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26719; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:18:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:13:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26423; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:13:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980422101652.007f58e0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:16:52 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Logo Displays as Black In-Reply-To: <003101bd6e04$457d3540$f74aaccf@mcglinn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would start by NOT using distiller assistant. If you set up Distiller to check watched directories, it does the same thing (provided Distiller is running). At 12:35 PM 4/22/98 -0300, you wrote: > >I'm using FrameMaker 5.5 and the Distiller Assistant to create my .pdf >files. I'm working on a file that contains a red logo (.pcx) and red text >box. When I open the files with Exchange the logo color is now black, but >the red text box is ok. If I use the PDFWriter, the logo comes over fine. > >Also, the red text box converted with the Distiller Assistant prints as >black on an HP LaserJet 4 instead of grayscale. The red box prints ok when >converted with the PDFWriter. > >Thanks > >K McGlinn >kmcglinn@erols.com > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 17:33:46-GMT,1664;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14273 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26676; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:17:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:12:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26362; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:12:21 -0500 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565EE.005DED79.00@notes951.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:09:25 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Posting PDF files on the web. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A while ago, I heard that Adobe required people to use certain icons with PDF files when posting on the web. Is this still a requirement? Typically, most people tend to use the same "PDF" icons with PDF files, but I want to know for sure if this is a real requirement from Adobe or people just agree to do it. If this is a requirement, where can I find the information about it? Thanks, Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 18:07:27-GMT,2858;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15570 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:07:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28471; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:49:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:40:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27966; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:40:54 -0500 X-Sender: osa\fharri\fharris@mail.osa.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:58:25 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: fharri@osa.org (Frank Harris) Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Logo Displays as Black Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear K, Try these in order. 1. Try printing to file using HP Color Laserjet 5 PostScript printer driver. It is the most reliable at preserving color, in my experience. Digital Colormate PostScript driver is second best. 2. You might change your Distiller settings to turn off image compression. Sometimes that improves the color in the PDF, but at quite an expense in file size. 3. Last, try printing from a Mac. Frank >I'm using FrameMaker 5.5 and the Distiller Assistant to create my .pdf >files. I'm working on a file that contains a red logo (.pcx) and red text >box. When I open the files with Exchange the logo color is now black, but >the red text box is ok. If I use the PDFWriter, the logo comes over fine. > >Also, the red text box converted with the Distiller Assistant prints as >black on an HP LaserJet 4 instead of grayscale. The red box prints ok when >converted with the PDFWriter. > >Thanks > >K McGlinn >kmcglinn@erols.com > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org 2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org ------------------------- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 19:25:50-GMT,2254;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18711 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:25:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA32692; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:07:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:00:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA32368; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:00:36 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Posting PDF files on the web. Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:59:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd6e20$e43f3b80$52f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <852565EE.005DED79.00@notes951.cc.bellcore.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > A while ago, I heard that Adobe required people to use > certain icons with > PDF files when posting on the web. Is this still a > requirement? Typically, > most people tend to use the same "PDF" icons with PDF files, > but I want to > know for sure if this is a real requirement from Adobe or > people just agree > to do it. If this is a requirement, where can I find the > information about > it? I think it is the other way round. Adobe created some icons, but in order to use them you had to fill in some ludicrous paper work. You still have to fill in a contract, but it's now online. You'd be free to use your own icons. However, you wouldn't be able to create them with any of Adobe's symbols in - so the visual recognition would be lost. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 21:06:54-GMT,2398;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22102 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:06:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA04935; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:46:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:40:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04495; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:40:40 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Posting PDF files on the web. Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:12:34 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20452907809281@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rucksapol, > A while ago, I heard that Adobe required people to use certain icons with > PDF files when posting on the web. Is this still a requirement? Typically, > most people tend to use the same "PDF" icons with PDF files, but I want to > know for sure if this is a real requirement from Adobe or people just agree > to do it. If this is a requirement, where can I find the information about > it? What I saw at the Adobe site (www.adobe.com) were requirements that applied "if" you wanted to use the adobe trademarks. These are found from the main page by following "Download Acrobat Reader" button at the lower left of their main screen. Somewhere along the sequence of pages to get to the actual download, you will find a diversion that explains the requirements for distributing Adobe Acrobat Reader. This is not exactly the same thing you described, but it may be what you refer to. You might also try posting a question directly to Adobe on the subject. They are the definitive answer on such matters. I hope this helps. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 21:06:56-GMT,5016;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22110 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:06:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA04946; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:46:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:40:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04517; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:40:44 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:04:52 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20452804609280@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Joel, > 1) 32,000 page limit per single document I can foresee using up to 1000 pages. I imagine there are a lot of other problems that will be serious before hitting the 32,000 page limit. However, if you want to publish a large database, have the tools for composition, and the compute power (and patience) to distill such a thing, yes it could be a limiting factor. > 3) Slipstreamed versions. Right now, we have 2.1, 3.0, 3.0.1 and 3.0.1 > with Forms Version 3.5 floating around the company and our customer > (regulatory agencies). The capabilities for authors are limited to the > least common denominator. The latest and greatest Acrobat Reader is always available on the net and you can buy them on CD-ROM in quantity from Adobe at $1.50 a pop and give them away. Anyone with the resources to produce 32,000+ pages and who is expecting enough benefit in return to justify that effort, should consider this cheap. The only remaining issue is getting them to install it. Presumably there is some benefit to the recipients of your 32,000 pages and from other documents to provide the incentive. The software has not crashed or trashed my system. There is little reason to believe it would be high risk to install. > 5) Extraction of tabular data is difficult, and only slightly improved by > 3rd-party plug-ins such as Aerial and Redwing. Those tools do a better > job, but can be rather touch to use if the original table isn't strictly a > rectangular grid. [i.e. hierarchical headers, or several detail lines > associated with a single 'master' line] I would push Adobe for better features to meet your needs. Acrobat Reader has the critical mass to become a universal solution. Plug ins are not universal. Perhaps Adobe could acquire some of the more useful ones and add them to the product. Consider drumming up some support from users with the same problem and focusing their attention on letting Adobe know their needs. Talk to the Adobe marketing department. > Possibilities: > 1) The Javascript document model for PDF gives a huge range of > capabilities to the PDF document. I haven't played with it much at all, > but I'm intrigued by the potential. Java / Javascript is not mature. You are looking for something that is fast, universal, relatively stable and bug free. IMHO, these are promising and should be watched, not used. My advice is wait. > 3) Delivery of electronic documents that are reliably printable for a long > time to come is an astounding achievement. Just try printing a document > from Microsoft Word that you created last year. Is your printer the same? > Is your version of Word the same? Did it print *exactly* the same this > time? Boy are you lucky if all those things can be answered "YES" I am producing a document of some 250 pages in print and on CD-ROM. The print version is expected to last and be used for 200+ years. The CD-ROM will deteriorate in that time and I doubt that there will be anything that can read it by the time it deteriorates. However, it is my best shot at an electronic version. I am supplying the compatible version of Adobe Acrobat Reader with the product. The issues you raise are significant. Can you imagine trying to achieve these goals at each company without a product like Adobe Acrobat? Now, just to stir the pot a little, wait for Microsoft to come in with a competing product so we will have two incompatible products, neither being universal. ;) (I refuse to respond to the religious war I just started, so don't even think about wasting your time to bait me.) That is my take on things and I suspect it is worth about what you paid for it. Good luck. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 21:58:48-GMT,1534;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24472 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:58:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07311; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:31:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:26:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07000; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:26:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199804222129.QAA13831@mustang.fidnet.com> X-Sender: mueller@mail.fidnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:22:35 -0500 To: pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randall Mueller Subject: [PDF] Spot came home Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Guess what...Bob G. of Lantania suggested deslecting the OPI comments in distiller. This allowed CrackerJack to display the spot colors from the tiff colorized in Quark! Welcome home spot! Randall mueller@fidnet.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 21:59:13-GMT,2222;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24480 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:59:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07525; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:35:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:30:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07258; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:30:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199804222134.QAA14335@mustang.fidnet.com> X-Sender: mueller@mail.fidnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:27:50 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randall Mueller Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF In-Reply-To: <"0422152321-Re: PDF Thoughts on PDF"@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 10:19 AM 4/22/98 , you wrote: > >>What we would like to know is what this forum believes is the major limits >>and possibilities of the format today. > >3) Delivery of electronic documents that are reliably printable for a long >time to come is an astounding achievement. Just try printing a document >from Microsoft Word that you created last year. Is your printer the same? >Is your version of Word the same? Did it print *exactly* the same this >time? Boy are you lucky if all those things can be answered "YES" > >Joel Finkle >Sr. Systems Project Leader >G.D. Searle >A Monsanto Company >joel.finkle@monsanto.com oh my Gawd...this one never crossed my mind! And we are in the process of storing customer art on cd's for "exact repeat" orders, some that come the "next year", guess we better keep that old Agfa going for life! Randall mueller@fidnet.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 22:32:20-GMT,1497;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25624 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:32:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA10078; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:20:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:15:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09837; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:15:43 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:16:36 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Henry Rogers Subject: [PDF] Adobe's unsupported plug-in addinfo.dll Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, Has anyone successfully compiled the "addinfo.dll" plug-in available in adobe's Plug-in SDK? I desperately need a copy, but am running into errors using MS VC++ that I can't track down. Thanks in advance. Henry Rogers henry_rogers@ncsu.edu +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 22:32:43-GMT,2046;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25636 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:32:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA09735; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:13:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:06:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09370; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:06:53 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:07:40 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Alois Treindl Subject: [PDF] PDFmaker installation on NT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have installed PDFmaker for Word 97 on NT 4.0. When I use Word and try to set the preference for PDFmaker, I get an error message: Neither Acrobat Distiller nor PDFWriter is installed. In fact they are installed, and I just reinstalled them (Acrobat 3.01, and Distiller 3.02) to make really sure. In the PDFmaker readme file, the situation is mentioned, and a 19-Step (!!) procedure is given to fix this situation. However, the procedure applies only for Windows 95 and cannot be followed for NT. How do I get PDFmaker resp. Word97 to see my Acrobat Distiller? -- || Alois Treindl, Astrodienst AG, mailto:alois@astro.ch || Zollikon/Zurich, Switzerland http://www.astro.ch/ || Free timezones and charts at http://www.astro.ch/atlas/ || The home of the SWISS EPHEMERIS! http://www.astro.ch/swisseph/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Apr-1998 22:51:04-GMT,1853;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26286 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:51:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA11219; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:42:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:36:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10937; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:36:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Adobe's unsupported plug-in addinfo.dll Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:33:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01bd6e3f$1333d180$52f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 No, but post a few errors, someone may recognise them... I assume it's really addinfo.api. Aandi > > Hello, > Has anyone successfully compiled the "addinfo.dll" plug-in > available in adobe's Plug-in SDK? I desperately need a copy, > but am running into errors using MS VC++ that I can't track > down. Thanks in advance. > Henry Rogers > henry_rogers@ncsu.edu +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 1:06:50-GMT,3292;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00910 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:06:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA16303; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:46:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:40:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16041; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:40:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'keith.flanagan@ast.com'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Frame to PS to PDF Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:42:37 +0800 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I have a framemaker 5.5 file which I need to convert to .pdf format. I > understand I need to convert to a postscript file first, and then use > Adobe Distiller. > Is there any FAQ available on how to do this type of thing ? To generate a PDF file from Framemaker you can go one of two ways: 1. Print your Book (or Document) directly to PDF. Either using Print to PDFWriter or Save As PDF. 2. Generate a PS file open the PS file in Distiller which will create a PDF file. Now some details on Choice 2. Install a Postscript printer driver if you haven't already got one installed (Most HP late models have Postscript functionality - I use Apple LaserWriter 810 as it's really reliable). Make this printer the default printer. Open your Frame book or File and select print. In the PRINT dialog box you have two options you will be interested in: a) Print Only to File b) Generate Acrobat Data. Select the Print only to file option and you should notice the extension on the file is .PS. Select the Generate Acrobat Data button and you'll find that Frame allows you to select which formatting tags you want to have bookmarks generated for. (Usually the bookmarks follow a Heading Level (1,2,3 etc)). Add the tags you want then click set. Basically what you have just done is tell Frame to create a Postscript file from the Frame File and generate the bookmarks for the PDF file once distilled. You can now open the Postscript file (.PS) into distiller and it will create a PDF file automatically for you. I hope this is clear enough for you and I hope it helps. If you need any more helps please let me know... I do this day in and day out ... d..................................... ps. When you post to PDFZone next, remember to include some machine specs: Intel, 32Mb, 1Gb, Acrobat 3.01, NT 4 etc .... This helps people put the picture together easier... +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 5:39:11-GMT,3179;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08473 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:39:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA26557; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 00:21:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 00:14:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26263; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 00:14:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 00:56:19 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199804230056_MC2-3AC7-53D0@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id AAA26260 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You may want to check out the 'PDF for Prepress' White Paper, to be found at www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf Olaf Druemmer > > >Hello, > >We are two students at the division of Media Technology and Graphic Arts at >the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm. We are currently working on >a report about PDF. > >We have basic knowledge of the format and we realize the benefits of it >concerning platform independence and graphic representation. Now we want to >dig deeper into the format and its qualities. > >What we would like to know is what this forum believes is the major limits >and possibilities of the format today. There are many contradictions in the >debate and we find it difficult to identify the real major problems of the >format. > >We would be very pleased if you replied to this mailing list or directly >to us. > >Sincerely, >Goran Lindgren >Carl Vad-Schutt > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 7:38:16-GMT,2266;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27365 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:38:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA29965; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:19:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:13:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29753; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:13:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980423091647.007d37e0@re.nettuno.it> X-Sender: reg001d1@re.nettuno.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:16:47 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: LinkService Subject: Re: [PDF] "Select Area" enlarged Print In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 AERIAL , an Acrobat Plug-in from AMBIA (www.ambia.com) can do it. Download the trial version and test it. This could be what you want. Regards, Vainer Gilioli LinkService Srl - Italy linkservice@re.nettuno.it At 13.14 22/04/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello, > >Has anyone found a feature or plugin that would allow the "selection of an >area" in Acrobat Viewer, and print as an enlargment of that area only? > >Tiling will give me the whole image enlarged but no control over where the >images area falls. > >Cheers >Murray McCombs >mmccombs@interlog.com > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 7:46:01-GMT,1518;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA28261 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:45:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA30524; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:37:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:32:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA30359; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:32:49 -0500 Message-ID: <353EE129.21DAA41@realworld.com.au> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:35:23 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Copying objects ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a way that Reader Mac and PC, can copy and paste objects within a PDF such as images like Tif or Picts or embedded EPS? TIA Dean +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 7:46:56-GMT,2019;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA28382 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:46:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA30472; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:35:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:30:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA30272; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:30:11 -0500 Message-ID: <33A7437D9048D11189FA00A0C986BB6834D52E@EXCALIBER.VPDM.COM> From: David Farbey To: "'PDF discussion list'" Subject: [PDF] Renumbering thumbnails question Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:33:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there any way to renumber thumbnails created in Acrobat Exchange? I have a publication with 12 pages of "front matter" followed by Chapter 1 which starts on page 1. But the thumbnail for Chapter 1 page 1 is number 13. So that when I tell a reader to go page 57, and the readers clicks on thumbnail 57, he actually gets to page 45! I would like to give small roman numeral numbers to the thumbnails for the front-matter. Is this possible? Thanks David Farbey davidf@bainpdm.com Technical Communications Manager Baan Engineering (formerly BAIN - B.A. Intelligence Networks) Creators of BaanPDM - Manufacturing Enterprise PDM http://www.bainpdm.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 10:34:14-GMT,2395;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04831 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:34:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA01577; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:54:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:47:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA01367; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:47:40 -0500 From: keith.flanagan@ast.com Message-Id: <9804238933.AA893323995@ccmailsmtp.ast.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 10:36:28 -0800 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] FAQ on converting POSTSCRIPT to PDF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I was just talking to the person that is doing it, and it turns out that there is a bunch of files in frammaker that we need to convert into a single .pdf file. It's an online manual. any ideas ? keith ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] FAQ on converting POSTSCRIPT to PDF Author: at internet Date: 4/22/98 2:46 PM > I have a framemaker 5.5 file which I need to convert to > .pdf format. I > understand I need to convert to a postscript file first, > and then use > Adobe Distiller. True, but why not use Save As ... PDF in Frame 5.5 which will take care of this for you, if Frame has been fully installed. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 10:34:20-GMT,1960;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04837 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:34:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA02056; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 05:05:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 05:00:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01817; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 05:00:51 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Copying objects ? Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:54:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bd6e9e$a722b640$52f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <353EE129.21DAA41@realworld.com.au> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There's a new plug-in, Genus [something] that can do that. I believe it can only export what was a bitmap; I don't think it is a rasteriser. You can also use Tools > Select picture and copy out a rasterised bitmap. You can't paste graphics into PDF. If you want to, you may have unrealistic expectations of what PDF is best used for; in my opinion. > > Is there a way that Reader Mac and PC, can copy and paste > objects within > a PDF such as images like Tif or Picts or embedded EPS? > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 11:03:53-GMT,2723;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA05496 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 05:03:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA03034; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 05:41:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 05:34:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA02822; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 05:34:55 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: Re[2]: [PDF] FAQ on converting POSTSCRIPT to PDF Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:34:26 +0100 Message-ID: <001201bd6ea3$69bf20e0$52f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <9804238933.AA893323995@ccmailsmtp.ast.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > I was just talking to the person that is doing it, and > it turns out > that there is a bunch of files in frammaker that we need > to convert > into a single .pdf file. It's an online manual. > > any ideas ? > I think you may be assuming this is harder than it actually is! The normal way to manage a manual is as a FrameMaker Book. This is strongly recommended as then links work within the entire book. In that case you open the book and select Save As PDF. If they are separate documents (which would imply Frame is not being used properly, in my opinion), use Save As PDF for each one, then open the first PDF in Acrobat Exchange. Use Document > Insert Pages to combine the PDFs. Using Frame's styles and templates you can very quickly generate variants of the same book as PDF. For instance, one with coloured links and small pages for use online; and the same book with all black text, and large pages with chapter titles, for printing. All four PDF manuals on http://www.quite.com/imposing/manuals.htm (online and printable variations for two different products with a lot in common) were generated from the same original Frame book in less than an hour. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 11:39:02-GMT,1847;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06226 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 05:39:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA04371; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:21:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:14:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04143; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:14:42 -0500 Message-Id: <9804230927.AA26962@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Spot came home Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 11:31:31 +0200 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Guess what...Bob G. of Lantania suggested deslecting the OPI comments in >distiller. This allowed CrackerJack to display the spot colors from the >tiff colorized in Quark! Welcome home spot! But you needed to preseparte the spot colors using an OPI server. So spot can only live as a split personality. and you cant send me a PDF to my location that will make spot work without doing a collect for output sort of thing and send me the high-res from the OPI server, and this means I need your OPI solution. I hate that. I want spot to work on a PDF that I enclosed in email. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 12:02:04-GMT,2268;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06736 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:02:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA05502; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:51:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:46:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05297; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:46:48 -0500 From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Copying objects ? Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:53:00 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <98Apr23.034352edt.115593@gateway.lrp.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Also, a new plug-in called ForTE by BCL-Computers (www.bcl-computers.com) allows you to export graphics. ---------- From: Aandi Inston To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Copying objects ? Date: Thursday, April 23, 1998 5:54AM There's a new plug-in, Genus [something] that can do that. I believe it can only export what was a bitmap; I don't think it is a rasteriser. You can also use Tools > Select picture and copy out a rasterised bitmap. You can't paste graphics into PDF. If you want to, you may have unrealistic expectations of what PDF is best used for; in my opinion. > > Is there a way that Reader Mac and PC, can copy and paste > objects within > a PDF such as images like Tif or Picts or embedded EPS? > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 12:22:57-GMT,3158;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07224 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:22:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06151; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:07:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:02:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05991; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:02:43 -0500 Message-Id: <002501bd6eaf$c98af060$7f045e8c@T04149.tls.mms.fr> From: "Michel GARCIA" To: Subject: [PDF] How to mount several index files (.pdx) at once? Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:03:10 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01BD6EC0.8CB832E0" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BD6EC0.8CB832E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have seen that it's possible to mount one index file with a PDF file = using the Acrobat Exchange tool (File->Document Info->Index). =20 Is there a way to mount several index files at once with one PDF file? Please, reply me directly. =20 Many thanks in advance. =20 Michel GARCIA (garcia@soleil.tls.mms.fr) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BD6EC0.8CB832E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have seen that it's possible to = mount one=20 index file with a PDF file using the Acrobat Exchange tool = (File->Document=20 Info->Index).
 
Is there a way to mount several = index files at=20 once with one PDF file?
 
Please, reply me = directly.
 
Many thanks in advance.
 
Michel GARCIA = (garcia@soleil.tls.mms.fr)
 
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BD6EC0.8CB832E0-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 13:11:16-GMT,6964;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08500 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:11:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07408; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:38:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:32:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07125; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:32:16 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6EC4.9FECE5F0.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Some PDF Questions Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:30:43 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I'm relatively new to computers and PDF, so please pardon my ignorance in the area. X-platform issues (Microsoft won't be so big forever, Mac reviving, Linux gaining momentum) and lack of long-term "readability" in document formats led me to convert majority of my important stuff into PDF. As a college student I'm interested in possibility of at least reading if not modifying docs I make now in the future, say, in 5 yrs time, or, to be very very optimistic, in 10 yrs time (btw, what is use of 100-yr. shelf-life optical storage if one cannot read the format the data is written in?) So I have a couple of questions regarding PDF. 1. When I encapsulate fonts when producing PDF from PageMaker and then want to extract data from the resulting PDF, I get garbage. This same thing happens when trying to add a bookmark via selecting text and hitting Ctrl-B - I get garbage in the bookmark. I don't feel like turning to PageMaker source is the answer when trying just to extract some of the text. Is there a workaround? 2. According to my understanding of a paper pre-press groups from Germany and Switzerland have written there is no way to encapsulate (embed) some standard fonts, at least their western versions. Is that true? 3. PostScript being a printer language and Touch-Up tool in Exchange being a one-line edit tool it seems to me that text has only a line-by-line vector-defined structure needed for rendering and that source formatting is gone. (am I right?) Which brings me to 4 the SGML thing. Not long ago there was an SGML-PDF debate on the list. >From what I learned it seems capabilities of SGML are immense. If HTML is a subset of SGML with predefined tags I imagine SGML doc could look like: -------------------------------------------- Steps in Virus Multiplication .... Overview of Bacterial Viruses ... RNA Bacteriophages Another interesting feature of bacteriophage MS2 is that the fourth virus protein, the lysis protein, is coded by a gene which overlaps with both the coat protein gene and the replicase gene.
[picture or diagram source filename goes here] Electron micrographs of a male bacterial cell of Escerichia Coli infected with a small RNA phage.
... bacteriophage - a virus that infects prokaryotic cells ... Large scale Purification of Viruses Modern virus research often requires the preparation of large amounts of... ... Viroids are circular single-stranded RNA molecules... ... Define the term host as it relates to viruses. Define virus. What are the minimal... ... Fenner, F., and Gibbs (eds.). 1988. Portraits of Viruses - History of Virology Karger, Basel... -------------------------------------------- which would cause to render chapter & subchapter headings in bigger type in, let's say, blue, species names and emphasized words in italics (and so on) and would make the conversion software build index and make content-aware box-type dependent searching possible (for instance, to search only "further reading" titles or authors, or only "current research" boxes through the entire document. Possibly, "glossary" items could be put in index in italics so to be distinguished from other terms. The tags, I suppose, can be defined according to your needs. (the above "sample" is a mere speculation - I never even saw an SGML doc). Do I get this right? Also, does someone know of an SGML-related mail list? 5. Donna pointed out that FrameMaker does support SGML tagging. To Adobe people: you have one of the most widely used technical documentation software and you have a document format and reader that are used by millions of people. Wouldn't it make sense to incorporate SGML capabilities in the next major upgrade of the PDF format? Webmasters cataloguing PDFs would be very grateful. And people seraching the Net too. I guess sales would boost. 6. When I run PDF Capture 1.0 plug-in for Exchange on a color image, results are either desperately poor or I get a message that the plugin cannot capture pages. I end capturing in grayscale or sometimes OCR the darn thing as I would without Exchange (also in grayscale, that is) and make a PDF via PageMaker. My scanner does 300 dpi @ 24-bit color. Is that too coarse a resloution for color OCR? Would I need 600 dpi @ 24-bit? 7. A long thread started by Russell's question we learned some interesting things about Mac file system. I'm curious, is there a possibility of running a program when a CD is inserted on a Mac? Like description found in autorun.inf on Win platforms? Also, is it possible under Linux? If possible on a Mac, can there be mastered a hybrid CD-ROM to support autorun features on more than one platform? 8. Are there any known problems getting PDFs via a LAN which employs various platforms for file servers. (like PageMaker problems if publication resides on an NT Server network drive). Thanks in advance, Jernej+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 13:18:13-GMT,1650;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08700 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:18:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA08748; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:09:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:03:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08501; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:03:56 -0500 Message-ID: <353F3D31.753125F5@intranetsol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:08:01 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "acrodevsup@Adobe.COM" , "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] can I programatically add an /ImportData action to a PDF ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hi, I need to be able to, within a C program, add a /ImportData action to a PDF. Is this possible? -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 13:25:43-GMT,2799;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08953 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:25:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09111; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:16:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:11:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08856; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:11:18 -0500 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Message-Id: <"0423131117-Re2: PDF Thoughts on PDF"@MHS> Date: 23 Apr 1998 08:06:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>3) Delivery of electronic documents that are reliably printable for a long >>time to come is an astounding achievement. Just try printing a document >>from Microsoft Word that you created last year. Is your printer the same? >>Is your version of Word the same? Did it print *exactly* the same this >>time? Boy are you lucky if all those things can be answered "YES" >> >>Joel Finkle >>Sr. Systems Project Leader >>G.D. Searle >>A Monsanto Company >>joel.finkle@monsanto.com >oh my Gawd...this one never crossed my mind! And we are in the process of >storing customer art on cd's for "exact repeat" orders, some that come the >"next year", guess we better keep that old Agfa going for life! >Randall I hope that's sarcasm mode turned on there... With PDF, stop worrying and love Da Bomb! The per-printer hassles we've experienced are worst, it seems, in Word Processing, where the slight differences in font definition or minimum margins between two versions of a printer driver from the same company can cause changes to show up, but not for 723 pages where that one combination of characters causes one word to wrap, causing a line to extend to the next page, throwing a TOC off, requiring 37 manually-entered cross references (see page 724 now needs to be 725)... A photo should be immune to these kinds of things, for the most part, barring color matching issues. A drawing even with text in it has low risk. It's only when we stack a stream of many words together that we've been driven nuts... until PDF came along. Joel Finkle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 13:42:27-GMT,1705;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09399 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:42:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09749; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:27:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:22:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09440; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:22:11 -0500 Message-ID: <7B6FDDE8EADDD0119A3300805FFE893D3A42C1@MPTN_MAIL> From: "Forsythe, Craig" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] How secure is a password-protected pdf? Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:26:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Obviously the Acrobat password feature cannot use "strong" encryption techniques, because of US law, but just how good is the protection it provides? Acrobat files seem to have a self-healing quality to them perhaps because of the discrete page-information packets within a file, so I wonder how difficult it would be to hack through to the data? Does anyone know of protected Acrobat files being penetrated? CF. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 14:05:02-GMT,2709;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10090 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:05:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA11522; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:53:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:48:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11171; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:48:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199804231348.IAA11154@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] How secure is a password-protected pdf? Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 15:48:33 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Obviously the Acrobat password feature cannot use "strong" encryption >techniques, because of US law, but just how good is the protection it >provides? Acrobat files seem to have a self-healing quality to them perhaps >because of the discrete page-information packets within a file, so I wonder >how difficult it would be to hack through to the data? > >Does anyone know of protected Acrobat files being penetrated? The protection schemas of PDF files has been deeply described and discussed previously. Recently someone told that at Westinghouse (if I well remember) some engineers have run a brute force password attack on PDF files with success (in a relative low time). Two comments: 1 - A brute force attack have success if running on a maximum speed computing hardware (even for the US-exportable 40-bit RSA schema). 2 - You can find the right RSA 40-bit key if you also know which are the original contents that have been encrypted and what and where you should compare. This can be more difficult than running the brute force key finder, mainly because PDF files normally contain binary encoded elements stored in streams. I've never tried a brute force attack in a "blind" way (without informations on PDF contents), also because my time and computing resources will discourage a similar approach... I'd be happy if our Westinghouse friends could tell us something more on their experiments. Andrea Valle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 14:15:29-GMT,1788;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10492 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:15:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA11723; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:57:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:52:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11374; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:52:04 -0500 Message-Id: <353F4767.C369EC56@sirsi.com> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:51:35 -0500 From: "Edward J. Crankshaw II" Organization: Sirsi Corporation - Publications Department X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] FAQ on converting POSTSCRIPT to PDF References: <9804238933.AA893323995@ccmailsmtp.ast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Keith, Create a book file containing the docs and print to PDF or convert to PS and then distill. - Ed keith.flanagan@ast.com wrote: > > I was just talking to the person that is doing it, and it turns out > that there is a bunch of files in frammaker that we need to convert > into a single .pdf file. It's an online manual. > > any ideas ? > > keith +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 14:26:31-GMT,2305;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10854 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:26:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12675; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:16:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:11:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12380; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:11:30 -0500 From: keith.flanagan@ast.com Message-Id: <9804238933.AA893340044@ccmailsmtp.ast.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 15:05:08 -0800 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] FAQ on converting POSTSCRIPT to PDF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks for the info - Keith ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [PDF] FAQ on converting POSTSCRIPT to PDF Author: at internet Date: 4/23/98 8:51 AM Keith, Create a book file containing the docs and print to PDF or convert to PS and then distill. - Ed keith.flanagan@ast.com wrote: > > I was just talking to the person that is doing it, and it turns out > that there is a bunch of files in frammaker that we need to convert > into a single .pdf file. It's an online manual. > > any ideas ? > > keith +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 14:28:40-GMT,5325;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10919 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:28:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12845; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:18:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:13:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12491; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:13:45 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Some PDF Questions Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:08:02 +0100 Message-ID: <001501bd6ec1$fa5415c0$52f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <01BD6EC4.9FECE5F0.jernej@4u.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > 1. When I encapsulate fonts when producing PDF from PageMaker > and then want > to extract data from the resulting PDF, I get garbage. This > same thing > happens when trying to add a bookmark via selecting text and > hitting Ctrl-B > - I get garbage in the bookmark. I don't feel like turning to > PageMaker > source is the answer when trying just to extract some of the > text. Is there > a workaround? You should not rely on PDF as a medium for reuse of text, though a number of programs are appearing to help with this task ("repurposing" is the buzzword). Use it as a medium for document storage. > > 2. According to my understanding of a paper pre-press groups > from Germany > and Switzerland have written there is no way to encapsulate > (embed) some > standard fonts, at least their western versions. Is that true? Yes, but this is unlikely to affect the majority of desktop use. It is pre-press people, who may have to deal with idiots who've changed the base fonts, that are mainly affected. > > 3. PostScript being a printer language and Touch-Up tool in > Exchange being > a one-line edit tool it seems to me that text has only a line-by-line > vector-defined structure needed for rendering and that source > formatting is > gone. (am I right?) Which brings me to Absolutely. Or rather, it doesn't even have a line by line structure. There is a character by character structure, in any order. Word breaks are deduced. The touch-up tool starts by collecting all text together, potentially re-ordering the page (which makes it a bit of a nuisance). > 5. Donna pointed out that FrameMaker does support SGML > tagging. To Adobe > people: you have one of the most widely used technical documentation > software and you have a document format and reader that are used by > millions of people. Wouldn't it make sense to incorporate > SGML capabilities > in the next major upgrade of the PDF format? Webmasters > cataloguing PDFs > would be very grateful. And people seraching the Net too. I > guess sales > would boost. Sounds good in theory, but how does the SGML mark-up get in there? The beauty of PDFs is that you can make them with just about anything. I'm suspicious of initiatives which tie people back to particular applications. > > 6. When I run PDF Capture 1.0 plug-in for Exchange on a color image, > results are either desperately poor or I get a message that > the plugin > cannot capture pages. I end capturing in grayscale or > sometimes OCR the > darn thing as I would without Exchange (also in grayscale, > that is) and > make a PDF via PageMaker. My scanner does 300 dpi @ 24-bit > color. Is that > too coarse a resloution for color OCR? Would I need 600 dpi @ 24-bit? RAM is the biggest problem. I'd want to see at least 128MB of RAM for 600 dpi. In practice 300-400 dpi is good enough for OCR of most typical material. > > 7. A long thread started by Russell's question we learned > some interesting > things about Mac file system. I'm curious, is there a possibility of > running a program when a CD is inserted on a Mac? Like > description found in > autorun.inf on Win platforms? Also, is it possible under > Linux? If possible > on a Mac, can there be mastered a hybrid CD-ROM to support > autorun features > on more than one platform? Macs do not have this rather unsavoury feature (which, while handy for developers, sends chills down my spine). Just about anything can happen with Linux, but the Linux community are a bit more security savvy, I think. > > 8. Are there any known problems getting PDFs via a LAN which employs > various platforms for file servers. (like PageMaker problems > if publication > resides on an NT Server network drive). Not really, if you're just reading, but an intranet is a better solution than a LAN for several reasons. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 15:46:39-GMT,2162;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13845 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:46:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA16154; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:27:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:23:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15932; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:23:13 -0500 From: Alois Treindl Message-Id: <199804231523.RAA15357@as73.astro.ch> Subject: [PDF] Re: Pdfmaker installation problem on NT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:23:36 MESZ X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 212.3] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yesterday I had reported a problem to install PDFmaker on NT. Today I found the solution. First I found that installation worked on another NT machine in the office. Then at home on the machine where the probalem had occurred, I observed that PDFmaker installation, which offers to start MSWord at the end of the installation, did not start the local copy of MSWORD, but a copy on a remote network drive (which was very slow in starting due to the WAN connection with 128 kbit). Now I disconnected all remote network drives from the system. Then I could install PDFmaker without problems; it now found the local copy of MS Word. It seems to work now; it is rather slow doing the footnote links in a 200 page document, though. -- || Alois Treindl, Astrodienst AG, mailto:alois@astro.ch || Zollikon/Zurich, Switzerland http://www.astro.ch/ || Free timezones and charts at http://www.astro.ch/atlas/ || The home of the SWISS EPHEMERIS! http://www.astro.ch/swisseph/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 16:39:08-GMT,2909;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15983 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:39:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18982; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:22:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:16:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18627; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:16:16 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <353EE129.21DAA41@realworld.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:17:25 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Copying objects ? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Is there a way that Reader Mac and PC, can copy and paste objects within >a PDF such as images like Tif or Picts or embedded EPS? Obects can be copied from PDF files using the Select Graphics tool. This gives you a bitmap on the Clipboard that can be pasted into other applications. To export a selected area as EPS, crop the page using the Crop Pages tool and Export as EPS. Use the latest Export EPS plugin (available under New Downloads at www.adobe.com) as it provides a proper bounding box for the cropped page. To "paste" a high definition object into a PDF file, you must turn the object into a PDF first. Then you have two choices. 1. Using PitStop 1.5 or higher, select and copy the objects you want from PitStop's Edit menu. Then open the second PDF with PitStop and Paste. This is pretty easy, but you need to buy PitStop. The advantage is that you can send the object forward or backward in the layering hierarchy with PitStop, or replace an exsiting object: powerful 2. Using just Acrobat Exchange, create a Button Field, select Options, choose Icon only, and Browse to select the PDF you want to import. This places the PDF in a scaleable field with an optional background color. There are scaling optional available as well if you need to proportionally scale the object or maintain it at 100% size. When you save the PDF, the superimposed PDF becomes part of the file. Have fun. These are multistep techniques, but as Aandi says this is not what PDF was designed for at present. Better tools will for modifying PDFs be available in the not-too-distant future. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 16:40:09-GMT,1743;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16007 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:40:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19059; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:24:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:20:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18807; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:19:59 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980423122215.00943460@vaxxine.com> X-Sender: rickan@vaxxine.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:22:15 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Rickan Subject: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In following recent exchanges concerning the size of the PDF user base, I was wondering if a list of corporate/government adoptors has been compiled anywhere. For clients who are evaluating the possibility of using PDF, I find that the greatest emphasis is placed not on the technical specs of the format, but who else is committed to using it. Anyone have a list of firms that have sanctioned the use of PDF? Mark +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 17:24:30-GMT,4062;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17909 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:24:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA21539; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:11:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:06:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21147; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:06:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:04:55 -0700 Message-ID: <000467F5.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Allan_Benamer@jud.ca.gov (Allan Benamer) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.904153398" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --IMA.Boundary.904153398 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part You can count us in. The California Court System at http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov has all of its forms in PDF format as well as its opinions. We're also interested in taking our Judicial Council forms and turning them into fill-in forms. Any takers? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) Author: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com at Internet Date: 4/23/98 12:22 PM In following recent exchanges concerning the size of the PDF user base, I was wondering if a list of corporate/government adoptors has been compiled anywhere. For clients who are evaluating the possibility of using PDF, I find that the greatest emphasis is placed not on the technical specs of the format, but who else is committed to using it. Anyone have a list of firms that have sanctioned the use of PDF? Mark +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ --IMA.Boundary.904153398 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (198.232.147.17) by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 000467DA; Thu, 23 Apr 98 09:59:14 -0700 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by mail-oak-2.pilot.net with ESMTP id JAA18463 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19059; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:24:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:20:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18807; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:19:59 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980423122215.00943460@vaxxine.com> X-Sender: rickan@vaxxine.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:22:15 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Rickan Subject: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --IMA.Boundary.904153398-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 17:25:51-GMT,2250;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17965 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:25:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20778; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:58:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:52:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20486; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:52:27 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to Framers'" , "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Off Topic: Fonts and ATM Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:51:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cross posted to Framers and PDF Hi - We're having a problem with font control from MAC Word 5 files (using Helvetica) to Word 6.0.1. I know Word is quite prone to "walking" (repaginating), but this is particularly irksome as the previously published documents MUST maintain page breaks and so forth as released to customer. Soooooooo, this problem is responsible for some writers continuing to use their old MACS so they don't have to reformat text. Actually, they're supposed to be using FrameMaker, but deadlines make is easy to stick to what is "known" ATM deluxe is running on this machine. Does this have anything to do with how the fonts are interpreted from these older documents? Is there anything we can look at specifically that would account for the re-formatting of these Word 5 documents? To my knowledge, template settings are the same for margins, etc. thx - Rebecca +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 17:29:58-GMT,3226;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18095 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:29:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22743; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:20:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:15:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22053; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:15:40 -0500 X-Sender: gnixon@mailhost.atlas.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804231348.IAA11154@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:18:06 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: gnixon Subject: Re: [PDF] How secure is a password-protected pdf? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On a simple password protected Acrobat 1 document I have just printed the file to P/S and then re -distilled the file to PDF and had my wicked way with it!!!! >>Obviously the Acrobat password feature cannot use "strong" encryption >>techniques, because of US law, but just how good is the protection it >>provides? Acrobat files seem to have a self-healing quality to them perhaps >>because of the discrete page-information packets within a file, so I wonder >>how difficult it would be to hack through to the data? >> >>Does anyone know of protected Acrobat files being penetrated? >The protection schemas of PDF files has been deeply described and >discussed previously. >Recently someone told that at Westinghouse (if I well remember) some >engineers have run a brute force password attack on PDF files with >success (in a relative low time). >Two comments: >1 - A brute force attack have success if running on a maximum speed >computing hardware (even for the US-exportable 40-bit RSA schema). >2 - You can find the right RSA 40-bit key if you also know which are the >original contents that have been encrypted and what and where you should >compare. This can be more difficult than running the brute force key >finder, mainly because PDF files normally contain binary encoded elements >stored in streams. > >I've never tried a brute force attack in a "blind" way (without >informations on PDF contents), also because my time and computing >resources will discourage a similar approach... >I'd be happy if our Westinghouse friends could tell us something more on >their experiments. > >Andrea Valle >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 17:54:18-GMT,3489;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18988 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:54:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA24509; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:53:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:48:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24248; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:48:53 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:48:59 -0400 From: "Bombardier, Kevin" Subject: [PDFdev] ETM Search IAC Plug-ins Help To: "'pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'kbombard@erols.com'" , "Bombardier, Kevin" Message-id: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD36C41A@EMSS05M03.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-type: text/plain X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am starting a project that will act as an Electronic Technical Manual (ETM) using pdf as the format. The project will have one pdf file that the user is always looking at (A) and another one that will help them to do troubleshooting (B). As the user is looking at (A), which will probably be something like the OIW example, they will click on a button in the pdf file that will spawn a new process. How can I add a new action to Exchange that will do this for me? This new process will connect to the serial port and receive an error code from another piece of equipment. With this error code it will do a relational DB lookup and return a unique identifier. The troubleshooting pdf document (B) will be created with these unique identifiers hidden in them. The application will then do a search on the pdf document(s), after they have been indexed using Catalog, and then automatically start Exchange to display to the user the page/view that is associated with the unique id in the manual to give them suggestions on what they need to try and fix. I have looked at the documents 5163, 5164, and 5165, the IAC example DDEOpen, and at the plug-ins DDEClnt and HFTQuery. These are the things that I think directly pertain to what I am doing but have also read any other info I could find on the Adobe web site or CD-ROM. Has anyone else done this type of work or project? Can anyone provide me with any help on how I should go about the communication between each of these items (new action, DDE Search and view)? What do I need to do on the application side? The Exchange side? What mechanism should I use? What plug-ins do I need? Do I have the right approach and is there anything else I can look at before I try to do this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Kevin Kevin Bombardier Voice: 603-885-9076 Software Engineer Fax: 603-885-0263 Sanders, A Lockheed Martin Company Mail Stop NCA1 3303 95 Canal Street Nashua, NH 03060 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDFdev is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 19:28:17-GMT,2386;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22312 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:28:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27785; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:05:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:56:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27331; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:56:52 -0500 Message-ID: <353F9019.97C09844@glyphica.com> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:01:45 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) References: <3.0.3.32.19980423122215.00943460@vaxxine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Mark - You can find a partial list in PurePDF, in the Acrobat in Action/Government feature. The article gives some indication of what the agency is doing. The Action/Education and /Business sections also provide some insights into what companies are doing with Acrobat. Visit http://www.purePDF.com for more information. -Deidre ........................................ Glyphica Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com ........................................ Mark Rickan wrote: > In following recent exchanges concerning the size of the PDF user base, I > was wondering if a list of corporate/government adoptors has been compiled > anywhere. For clients who are evaluating the possibility of using PDF, I > find that the greatest emphasis is placed not on the technical specs of the > format, but who else is committed to using it. > > Anyone have a list of firms that have sanctioned the use of PDF? > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 19:50:48-GMT,1834;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23019 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:50:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29428; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:42:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:38:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29199; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:38:44 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:37:50 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: alan.johnson@gel.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and sgml Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Isn't what folks really want is some component of SGML to be invisibly contained within the PDF file. That way the visual aspects of a document are retained (for all of time), and the logical aspects/structural integrity of a document are ALSO retained, within the SAME file! I think this would satisfy most of the archival/repurposing needs that I've seen (not that I've been to Timbukto mind you). This would suggest something like: Doc Creation -> application of SGML -> revision (potentially with PDF generation) -> storage of "final" PDF/SGML embedded document. What's so remarkable/naive about this idea? Alan +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 22:10:27-GMT,2280;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27967 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:10:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA01647; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:42:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:34:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01352; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:34:55 -0500 From: rob_hakanson@mentorg.com (Rob Hakanson) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:34:48 -0700 Message-Id: <9804231434.ZM9310@mandolin> In-Reply-To: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com (pdf-digest) "pdf-digest for April-22-98 [V2 #201]" (Apr 22, 7:40pm) References: <199804230040.TAA16058@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] How to make whole page display Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm creating PDF files from FrameMaker, and I find that I can't get the whole page to display by default. I have magnification set to 100%, and I've selected "Fit window to initial page" in Exchange. However, I never see the whole page. Rather, the window is sized so that the bottom of the page is not visible without scrolling. The only way that I can see the whole page is to hide both the menu and tool bars. Then the page fits perfectly. I want to be able to keep the menu and tool bars, but have the window size so that I can see my whole page without adjusting the border by hand. Is there an Exchange session preference, document info setting, or preferably, pdfmark code that I can embed in the PostScript prior to distillation to fix my problem? I'd really prefer to solve this with pdfmark code, if possible. Thanks, Rob Hakanson Mentor Graphics +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 22:31:13-GMT,2210;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28756 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:31:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA02976; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:17:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:12:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02791; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:12:15 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] How to make whole page display Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:01:42 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01bd6f04$981e0b20$52f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <9804231434.ZM9310@mandolin> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I'm creating PDF files from FrameMaker, and I find that I > can't get the whole > page to display by default. I have magnification set to > 100%, and I've > selected "Fit window to initial page" in Exchange. However, > I never see the > whole page. Rather, the window is sized so that the bottom > of the page is not > visible without scrolling. 100% and Fit Window to Initial Page do nothing to make the entire page visible. You can select an initial view of Fit Page. However, I'd advise against that. There's little point showing the whole page if the text is too small to read. Stick to 100%; a user with a 1280 x 1024 monitor setup will have the whole page visible; others will scroll, which they will be used to. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 22:45:07-GMT,2050;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29245 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:45:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA03663; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:32:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:27:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03410; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:27:14 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980423122215.00943460@vaxxine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:25:35 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >In following recent exchanges concerning the size of the PDF user base, I >was wondering if a list of corporate/government adoptors has been compiled >anywhere. For clients who are evaluating the possibility of using PDF, I >find that the greatest emphasis is placed not on the technical specs of the >format, but who else is committed to using it. > >Anyone have a list of firms that have sanctioned the use of PDF? > >Mark > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 22:47:24-GMT,2718;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29298 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:47:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA03686; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:33:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:28:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03476; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:28:00 -0500 Message-ID: <353FB2CC.D3D16763@realworld.com.au> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:29:49 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Guys here is a relevant post from the QT list, dirrerences between crossing platforms on CD vs magnetic media lika a zip. Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 08:33:03 -0700 From: Subject: Re: Problems playing un-flattened movies on PCs On 4/22/98 9:35 PM, Douglas Dawson (dwdawson@dslab.com) said: >However, these movies are self-contained and do play on a Windows 95 and NT 4 >box just fine - as long as they are copied there by Zip. The 95 laptop isn't >even on the network, so there is no way the files could be referencing the >original movie files on my Mac. When you copy a dual fork movie to a PC-formatted Zip disk on a Mac, PC Exchange puts the resource fork there as well (just like it does with a regular floppy). When you read that Zip disk on a PC, the resource fork is in the resource.frk directory. QT3 on Windows is smart enough to figure this out, and you can play the movie just fine. When you burn a CD, however, the resource fork doesn't come along for the ride. Theory: you have dual fork movies (even though they are self contained). That's OK, as long as you make sure the resource fork always travels with your movie, but that generally doesn't happen when you burn a non-Mac-format CD. Greg Chapman QuickTime Engineering gregc@apple.com FWIW Dean Laffan +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Apr-1998 23:37:39-GMT,2752;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00976 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:37:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05818; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:24:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:18:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05585; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:18:15 -0500 Message-ID: <353FBE6B.45E61C9B@realworld.com.au> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:18:54 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Some PDF Questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D5C785B0F165291370C87470" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --------------D5C785B0F165291370C87470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jernj and Aandi re the autoplay on a Mac issue this was recently discuused on the Qicktime forum and although I haven't even looked at these links yet someone posted these 2 shareware utilities to allow you to burn autoplay Mac discs, not sure if it's for HFS or Hybrid or ISO or what, but check it out FWIW Dean Laffan Real World Productions http://www.updatestage.com/products.html http://www.maine.com/shops/gpicher/dsdemo.html --------------D5C785B0F165291370C87470 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jernj and Aandi

re the autoplay on a Mac issue this was recently discuused on the Qicktime forum and although I haven't even looked at these links yet someone posted these 2 shareware utilities to allow you to burn autoplay Mac discs, not sure if it's for HFS or Hybrid or ISO or what, but check it out

FWIW

Dean Laffan
Real World Productions

http://www.updatestage.com/products.html

 http://www.maine.com/shops/gpicher/dsdemo.html --------------D5C785B0F165291370C87470-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 0:53:00-GMT,1793;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03317 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:52:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA08270; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 19:36:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 19:31:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08030; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 19:31:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'PDF List Posting'" Subject: [PDF] Documentum and PDF Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:34:15 +0800 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Folks, I need some help urgently. Has anyone had any experience in PDF storage in a Documentum Repository? Basically I need to know what issues there are if I were to create thousands of interlinked PDF files and then store them in the repository - would the external PDF links still work?? Do they have to be stored in a particular way? Appreciate any help... d................................... +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 4:10:56-GMT,2881;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08586 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:10:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA14354; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:51:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:45:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14133; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:45:14 -0500 Message-ID: <35400AF4.1773@acm.org> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:45:56 -0500 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: gcosimin@Adobe.COM Subject: [PDF] PDF Statistics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > From: "Huston, Virgil H." ...text deleted... > Those of us pushing PDF need these numbers to back up our > recommendations. I'm currently fighting a battle with SGML proponents > over which method is better for our purposes. > > Virgil Gary - I've got to agree with Virgil. These types of numbers can be key information when I'm trying to convince a client the best technical option for them to store their 5 million customer's monthly statements (I'm typically talking to very large securities, banking, and insurance firms) in for display on the Web is PDF over HTML or GIF/JPEG. Especially after that customer has told me fidelity to the original hardcopy statement is a major requirement, as is consistent reprint capability. This type of situtation is one I find myself in frequently. It's getting easier (pointing to the IRS site helps), but any data such as this is certainly helpful. Please pass along inside Adobe the cost of this research is more than worth the return you'll get when we can provide this type of data to a client trying to make a formatting decision. If you need more particulars to make your internal case, I'll be happy to provide them in direct emails. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 4:11:57-GMT,1819;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08616 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:11:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA14432; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:54:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:49:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14267; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:49:15 -0500 Message-ID: <351A868C.960F3E22@concentric.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:47:18 -0500 From: Patrick Menter Organization: Good things that come from above. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Automation of Exchange Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am interested in controlling adobe exchange with DDE to process documents, has anyone out there done this or do you know of another way to use scripts or DDE/ActiveX to control adobe exchange for automatic document generation. I need this in order to automate a documentation generation process that is pretty much routine but the use of exchange would be very convienient and makes sense. Patrick Menter Ford Motor Company Powertrain Control Systems Engineering +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 5:44:17-GMT,3004;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10980 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:44:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA17123; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:28:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:23:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA16895; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:23:35 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03701E@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automation of Exchange Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:20:37 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Patrick, As you probably know it is possible to remote control Exchange using OLE Automation on the Windows platform. We have put together some visual basic "code cuts" on our website http://www.roundtable.com.au/ [click plugins and then code cuts in the left frame]. Could you please add a little more detail to your description of what you require Acrobat Exchange to do? I may be able to assist you with some examples / details of how to achieve your aims. The sort of information that we need to know is : Authoring tool, Processing required on the documents, Platform(s), Servers, etc. I hope this assists you. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - Check out PDFHotLinks today - http://www.roundtable.com.au/fr_hotlink.htm -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Menter [mailto:pwmenter@concentric.net] Sent: Friday, March 27, 1998 2:47 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Automation of Exchange I am interested in controlling adobe exchange with DDE to process documents, has anyone out there done this or do you know of another way to use scripts or DDE/ActiveX to control adobe exchange for automatic document generation. I need this in order to automate a documentation generation process that is pretty much routine but the use of exchange would be very convienient and makes sense. Patrick Menter Ford Motor Company Powertrain Control Systems Engineering +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 6:44:24-GMT,1972;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19459 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:44:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA18981; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:31:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:25:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA18814; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:25:56 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E037027@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Quality Screenshots Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:22:58 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All, I have found that high quality screenshot are produced by first resizing the images to the size that you require [when viewed at 100%] in your image authoring tool [Photoshop, Photoeditor, etc.]. * Change your distiller settings to use NO downsampling or subsampling. * You can leave compression turned on. When viewed at 100% using Acrobat Exchange 3.01 on a Windows NT 4.0 machine I was able to produce accurate results. If anyone else would like to verify this and perhaps add their explanation I am sure that list members would appreciate it. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - RTSJoust sends PDF mail today! http://www.roundtable.com.au/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 7:16:34-GMT,2275;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA24963 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:16:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA19736; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:56:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:51:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19425; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:50:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199804240650.BAA19419@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] How secure is a password-protected pdf? Date: Fri, 24 Apr 98 08:50:44 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >On a simple password protected Acrobat 1 document I have just printed the >file to P/S and then re -distilled the file to PDF and had my wicked way >with it!!!! Ok, there's a step behind printing permissions. You can protect PDFs over opening actions. No way to print if you don't know the password. Plug-in writers can also add another level of security implementing a new way to create the RSA 40-bit key, with a different method from that used by Adobe in the standard Exchange or Reader interface (see a description in the PDFSPEC 1.2 manual). I think we should discuss about this level of security, and not about Adobe's implementation about printing permissions. Is there anyone interested in setting up a competition? The goal: writing a program that does a blind search of a password (no known informations about the PDF doc contents) to unlock a open-secured PDF file. This was my question: any idea of the computing time? (please no Cray users, and so on...). Andrea Valle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 7:17:35-GMT,2742;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA25185 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:17:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA20273; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 02:12:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 02:07:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20074; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 02:07:14 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Some PDF Questions Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:28:33 +0100 Message-ID: <002701bd6f4f$7424a4e0$52f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <353FBE6B.45E61C9B@realworld.com.au> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I stand corrected. According to the second page quoted: "How does it work? When the QuickTime extension is installed and active, it intercepts all disk mount events and checks for the presence of AutoStart information in the boot blocks of any Mac HFS disks. A file located at the top level of the disk may be set to automatically launch. If the file is a document, the Finder will be asked to open the document in the usual way-- by attempting to locate an application with the appropriate file and creator type. If the file is an application, the app will be launched. While AutoStart is usually used on CD-ROMs, any valid Mac HFS disk can be set to AutoStart, including floppies, hard disks, removable cartridges, etc. " I guess Apple couldn't bear to have PC users the only ones to live in fear. Aandi --- Original message --- Hi Jernj and Aandi re the autoplay on a Mac issue this was recently discuused on the Qicktime forum and although I haven't even looked at these links yet someone posted these 2 shareware utilities to allow you to burn autoplay Mac discs, not sure if it's for HFS or Hybrid or ISO or what, but check it out FWIW Dean Laffan Real World Productions http://www.updatestage.com/products.html http://www.maine.com/shops/gpicher/dsdemo.html +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 7:37:21-GMT,1881;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29212 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA20695; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 02:29:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 02:24:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20545; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 02:24:13 -0500 From: Munier M-Louise Message-Id: <199804240714.JAA19502@mailhost.edpsciences.com> Subject: [PDF] About URI To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:14:32 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Bonjour, Just a little detail about characters in URI request. I need to have the character % in my URL. In PDF file, I write it but the Acrobat reader converts it in %25 (ascii code) and the URL is wrong. How can I do. As it's a little detail, people could respond directly to my personal address. Thanks very much in adavance +--------------------------------------------------------+ Marie-Louise MUNIER EDP Sciences 7 Avenue de Hoggar Parc d'activites de Courtaboeuf 91944 Les Ulis Cedex A / France +--------------------------------------------------------+ e-mail: munier@edpsciences.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 9:50:40-GMT,7877;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05972 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:50:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA24332; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:37:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:32:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24162; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:32:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:32:10 +0100 (BST) From: David Brailsford X-Sender: dfb@quiver To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PGML announcement Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Everyone, PGML was announced about two weeks ago. I was rather expecting this list to be buzzing with it by now because in my view PGML deserves our fullest support. Maybe I'd better start the ball rolling ... May I urge all friends and colleagues on PDF lists and newsgroups to visit the Adobe Web site (http://www.adobe.com/) without delay and to read the Press Release and the Q&A on the PGML proposal? Those wanting to see the full submission will find it at: http://www.w3.org/Submission/ I SHOULD STRESS THAT WHAT FOLLOWS IS MY OWN ASSESSMENT OF PGML. ALTHOUGH I WORK WITH ADOBE IT IS NOT IN ANY WAY A STATEMENT OF THEIR POSITION ON PGML. MOREOVER PGML, IF ACCEPTED, WILL BECOME A TRULY OPEN STANDARD UNDER THE AEGIS OF W3C. PGML is a proposal to the World Wide Web Council for a *P*recision *G*raphics *M*arkup *L*anguage. It has an XML-style of syntax but coupled to the imaging semantics of PDF and PostScript. The XML syntax means that conventional prefix (operators precede operands) notation gets to be used, rather than the prefix notation of PDF/PostScript. Thus PostScript's 0 400 moveto becomes something like: From time to time various threads have developed on the PDF listservs urging Adobe to make sure that the PDF/PostScript imaging model becomes the accepted one for the next generation of Web browsers. If the W3C accepts PGML then this will come about. However, it is important to be clear that any acceptance of PGML will put the standard firmly in the domain of W3C -- it will be far more open to influence by the WWW community than previous "open-but-proprietary" standards such as PostScript and PDF. Obviously Adobe will be a strong contributor to PGML`s development and refinement but by no means the only one. The co-proposers of PGML,with Adobe, are IBM, Sun and Netscape with strong support from Corel. PGML incorporates a large subset of PDF, albeit with different syntax. It does not have ink-on-paper-only features such as CMYK colour spaces and settings for screens. But on the other hand it does have RGB/Lab colour spaces with extra features, *not* in PDF, for animation, anti-aliasing and transparency -- all of which are important on the Web. Short-term gains ================ If PGML takes off, the first task will be to write plugins for it in future releases of Web browsers. The first big win would be the ability to insert charts and graphs, economically, into Web documents with genuine line-drawing/vector graphic commands rather than having to turn them into GIFs. Indeed, it is clear from the press release and the Q&A that the initial use is intended to be for fixed format graphic inserts inside .... tags, within a bigger surround of conventional HTML. Even at the level of PGML inserts into HTML it is clear that the "semantic mismatch" beween PDF and HTML will be greatly reduced. If multi-page PGML becomes accepted (see below) that mismatch will be reduced still further. How many times have there been threads on PDF lists and newsgroups along the lines of " ... how do I convert PDF to HTML without any loss?" only to be followed by various responses to the effect of " ... you can approximate something for simple documents -- but in general what you ask is impossible". PGML should help to change all that. Longer-term questions ===================== PGML inserts would have the conventional PDF semantics of "fit to window", rather than HTML's "reflow", whenever window re-sizing is done. The Q&A document seems to talk about the similarity of PDF/PGML for single-page PDFs (in PGML syntax) used as graphic inserts into HTML docs. -- a sort of "placed PDF in PGML format", so to speak. But this in turn, raises the intriguing question of whether users will demand "sensible" behaviour for *multi-page* PDFs when converted to PGML. One could envisage a future Web document that eschews HTML altogether and does everything between ... markers with fixed pagination a la PDF. No longer would it be necessary for Web designers to grossly abuse the tables features in HTML, simply to place fixed elements that they don't want to re-flow!! ** PGML would also eliminate the need for Reader plugins/helper apps. for any document that is content with the common subset of displayed entities supported by both PGML and PDF and which has been created in -- or converted to -- PGML syntax ** If the proposal gets adopted then support for PGML will be there, in the browser, as part of the scenery. Which would be great because, as we all know, getting unsophisticated end-users initiated into the arcane mysteries of plugins and helper apps. can be a real headache. Stretching speculation just a bit further one can also see a call for Reader/Exchange to support PGML as well as PDF and also for Distiller to support an option for Distilling PostScript to PGML as well as to PDF. Conclusion ========== The PGML announcement is profound in its implications. I am *absolutely delighted* that Adobe has taken this bold initiative. If they had not done so there was every danger that some other, possibly inferior (and possibly PostScript/PDF hostile), proposal would have been accepted for Web graphics. Moreover, the fact that PGML is expressed in XML syntax means that putting in extra layers of "structure" tags, also in XML syntax, within the PGML, becomes a very natural thing to do. There is a real prospect that the worlds of "structure" and "appearance" could get much closer to a reconciliation via PGML. PGML might also turn out to be a very popular archive format that is more "database friendly" than PDF. If PGML gets support -- and I sincerely hope and believe it will -- then in the long run it is bound to affect the entire future of Digital Documents on Web/CD-ROM/wherever.. Adobe has announced on its Web page that it will support *both* PDF and PGML. As ever, much will depend on user reaction as to which way things go and the precise balance that will develop between PDF and PGML. Moreover, all of this will take probably two years to be implemented and to gain widespread use. And two years is a long time in the computer industry ... David B. --------------------------------------------------------------------- David F. Brailsford Dunford Professor of Computer Science e-mail: dfb@cs.nott.ac.uk Dept. of Computer Science http://www.ep.cs.nott.ac.uk/~dfb University of Nottingham Tel: +44 (0)115 951 4251 NOTTINGHAM NG7 2RD, Fax: +44 (0)115 951 4254 UK. --------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 9:54:54-GMT,2163;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06045 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:54:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA24739; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:48:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:43:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24487; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:43:32 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] About URI Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:16:49 +0100 Message-ID: <002d01bd6f65$30e90700$52f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199804240714.JAA19502@mailhost.edpsciences.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Acrobat is doing the right thing. Any special character in a URL is liable to be translated to the %nn format. This is essential for the % character which will otherwise confuse any correctly written CGI script. A CGI script must be prepared to translate %xx to the single character with the hex equivalent of xx, wherever it appears in the URL. If you are not using scripts but creating web pages containing a %, then this is simply wrong. Aandi > > Bonjour, > > Just a little detail about characters in URI request. > I need to have the character % in my URL. In PDF file, > I write it but the Acrobat reader converts it in %25 (ascii > code) and the URL is wrong. > How can I do. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 9:58:55-GMT,2616;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06093 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:58:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA24824; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:51:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:46:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24648; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:46:29 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PGML announcement In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:32:10 BST." Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:46:13 +0100 Message-ID: <24845.893411173@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:32:10 BST, David Brailsford wrote: [...] > rather than the prefix notation of PDF/PostScript. Thus PostScript's > > 0 400 moveto > > becomes something like: > > [...] > Moreover, the fact that PGML is expressed in XML syntax means > that putting in extra layers of "structure" tags, also in XML syntax, > within the PGML, becomes a very natural thing to do. There is a real > prospect that the worlds of "structure" and "appearance" could get much > closer to a reconciliation via PGML. PGML might also turn out to be > a very popular archive format that is more "database friendly" than PDF. My (limited) understanding of the concepts behind XML is that it is intended to be completely devoid of appearance markup, ie an XML document is purely structure (and content :-). This gives the obvious advantage that just by changing the appearance definitions you can reuse the same structured material. (In HTML terms, this is a bit like changing the CSS to make the page render for blind users.) PGML seems like a bit of a step away from that ideal, because you are embedding appearance in the document. How would a blind user's aural UA render or ? Having a truly open forum for the PDF spec does seem like a Good Thing though. Chris +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 12:00:56-GMT,3278;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08333 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:00:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA28279; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:00:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:53:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27911; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:52:59 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:53:12 -0500 To: "'PDF-Announce'" From: "Mera, Jose" Subject: [PDF-ANC] ANNOUNCE: LibraryManager CD & Subscription Editions Sender: owner-pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Alliant Techsystems adds CD and Subscription Editions of > LibraryManager(tm) to its DocMaestro(tm) products. > > Alliant Techsystems' LibraryManager provides easy access to a set of > PDFs, other documents (files), AVIs, etc.. 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Time for a press release! Actually, there have been more Downloads of reader than individuals that exsist on the planet. Heck, I have personally downloaded it 20 times this year at various sites (updates not withstanding. Please reply to mikejahn@jahn.com Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa-Gevaert N.V. 200 Ballardvale St. MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P: 978.658.0200 ext 5504 I: www.jahn.org Cell Phone: 617.605.5716 F: 508.658.8982 (but don't send me a FAX -send a PDF file!) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 14:29:25-GMT,2969;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11929 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:29:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA01083; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:06:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:01:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00780; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:01:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980424070408.007ed200@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:04:08 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] How to make whole page display In-Reply-To: <9804231434.ZM9310@mandolin> References: <199804230040.TAA16058@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Maybe I'm missing something here, but why not set magnification as fit to page and set fit window to initial page? I know you can do this with pdfmarks, becuause that's how I do everything. At 02:34 PM 4/23/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I'm creating PDF files from FrameMaker, and I find that I can't get the whole >page to display by default. I have magnification set to 100%, and I've >selected "Fit window to initial page" in Exchange. However, I never see the >whole page. Rather, the window is sized so that the bottom of the page is not >visible without scrolling. > >The only way that I can see the whole page is to hide both the menu and tool >bars. Then the page fits perfectly. I want to be able to keep the menu and >tool bars, but have the window size so that I can see my whole page without >adjusting the border by hand. Is there an Exchange session preference, >document info setting, or preferably, pdfmark code that I can embed in the >PostScript prior to distillation to fix my problem? I'd really prefer to solve >this with pdfmark code, if possible. > >Thanks, > >Rob Hakanson >Mentor Graphics >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 14:28:35-GMT,2277;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11878 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:28:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA01416; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:11:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:06:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01055; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:06:47 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Apr 98 07:06 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: (dfb@Cs.Nott.AC.UK) Subject: Re: [PDF] PGML announcement & Ghostscript Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I learned about PGML last week and have read through the documentation. It appears that since the semantics of PGML are so close to those of PostScript and PDF, Ghostscript could be extended to both *read* PGML (to display, print, and rasterize it) and *write* PGML (creating PostScript-to-PGML and PDF-to-PGML distillers, albeit not really excellent ones just yet) with very little effort; I imagine Ghostscript used as a PGML rasterizer could be adapted pretty easily to be a plug-in to your favorite browser, and of course Ghostscript already runs on every platform anyone would be interested in. If anyone out there is interested in funding this work, please get in touch with Aladdin by private e-mail to ghost@aladdin.com. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html * Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your e-mail and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net * +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 15:58:04-GMT,4850;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15487 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:58:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA05864; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:38:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:33:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05466; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:33:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3540B113.414A@pre-print.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:34:45 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PGML possibilties Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Chris' comments are well taken, although I don't really follow the "blind user's aural UA render". It strikes me that using a vector graphic in a web environment should not limit a designer; it should allow for more possibilities. If a browser can interpret , then it should be possible to set up something that will interpret /ARC { set rgbcolor ".5" ".5" "0" setlinewidth "4" moveto x="0" y="0" arc x="20" y="20" x1="50" x2="50" ... stroke } def moveto x="0" y ="400" ARC width=90% I am not suggesting that this is a) potential within SGML, b) the best syntax to use c) an attempt at good code. What I am suggesting is that: * if you can import a rastered image, then (sort of) position it and scale it to a proportion of the page, * then you should (in my twisted view of the world) be able to define a vector image, invoke it,m position it (apparently a lot more accurately) and scale it. I guess I've got a bit of a problem with any visual (if you'll excuse the exclusion of blind websurfers for a moment) medium being "devoid of appearance markup". Can you please explain to me how that would be different than the old text-only Bulletin Boards? If we're going to be using graphics, which the internet has irrevocably moved towards, we ought to at least be using good graphics. Vectors are smaller, cleaner and more accurate than bitmaps. It's past time we got together on a way to implement them in this most electric of communication media. Chris Ridd wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:32:10 BST, David Brailsford wrote: > [...] > > rather than the prefix notation of PDF/PostScript. Thus PostScript's > > > > 0 400 moveto > > > > becomes something like: > > > > > [...] > > Moreover, the fact that PGML is expressed in XML syntax means > > that putting in extra layers of "structure" tags, also in XML syntax, > > within the PGML, becomes a very natural thing to do. There is a real > > prospect that the worlds of "structure" and "appearance" could get much > > closer to a reconciliation via PGML. PGML might also turn out to be > > a very popular archive format that is more "database friendly" than PDF. > > My (limited) understanding of the concepts behind XML is that it is > intended to be completely devoid of appearance markup, ie an XML > document is purely structure (and content :-). This gives the obvious > advantage that just by changing the appearance definitions you can > reuse the same structured material. (In HTML terms, this is a bit like > changing the CSS to make the page render for blind users.) > > PGML seems like a bit of a step away from that ideal, because you are > embedding appearance in the document. How would a blind user's aural UA > render or ? > > Having a truly open forum for the PDF spec does seem like a Good Thing > though. > > Chris > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- You can be be miserably correct, or you can stop doing Windows. ------------------------------------------------------- Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 16:09:38-GMT,2965;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15942 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:09:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA06601; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:54:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:50:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06459; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:50:15 -0500 From: rob_hakanson@mentorg.com (Rob Hakanson) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:50:06 -0700 Message-Id: <9804240850.ZM10224@mandolin> In-Reply-To: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com (pdf-digest) "pdf-digest for April-24-98 [V2 #202]" (Apr 24, 12:23am) References: <199804240523.AAA16912@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for April-24-98 [V2 #202] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi recently wrote the following: > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:01:42 +0100 > From: "Aandi Inston" > Subject: RE: [PDF] How to make whole page display > > > I'm creating PDF files from FrameMaker, and I find that I > > can't get the whole > > page to display by default. I have magnification set to > > 100%, and I've > > selected "Fit window to initial page" in Exchange. However, > > I never see the > > whole page. Rather, the window is sized so that the bottom > > of the page is not > > visible without scrolling. > > 100% and Fit Window to Initial Page do nothing to make the entire > page visible. You can select an initial view of Fit Page. > > However, I'd advise against that. There's little point showing the > whole page if the text is too small to read. Stick to 100%; a user > with a 1280 x 1024 monitor setup will have the whole page visible; > others will scroll, which they will be used to. > > Aandi I'm running on UNIX, and my display is plenty big enough to display the whole page, with the menu and tool bars showing. The problem is, Acrobat does not show the whole page. As a result, I either have to scroll or lengthen the Exchange window by hand. Because of my document's settings, Acrobat is taking the trouble to resize the window when I open my documents, but it is not making a big enough window. For some reason, it is creating a window big enough to display the whole page ONLY if menu and tool bars are turned off. Is this a bug? Is there any way that I can work around this? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 16:46:21-GMT,3568;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17652 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:46:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07341; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:07:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:03:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07143; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:03:32 -0500 From: rjwolfe@bna.com Message-Id: <9804248934.AA893431994@dcns.bna.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Fri, 24 Apr 98 11:32:03 -0500 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] How to make whole page display MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've had the same experience. Setting magnification as "fit to page" and setting "fit window to initial page" doesn't solve the problem. As Rob discovered, I found that the only way to truly "fit window to initial page" is to hide the menu and tools bars. Robert Wolfe BNA, Inc. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [PDF] How to make whole page display Author: at INTERNET Date: 4/24/98 7:04 AM Maybe I'm missing something here, but why not set magnification as fit to page and set fit window to initial page? I know you can do this with pdfmarks, becuause that's how I do everything. At 02:34 PM 4/23/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I'm creating PDF files from FrameMaker, and I find that I can't get the whole >page to display by default. I have magnification set to 100%, and I've >selected "Fit window to initial page" in Exchange. However, I never see the >whole page. Rather, the window is sized so that the bottom of the page is not >visible without scrolling. > >The only way that I can see the whole page is to hide both the menu and tool >bars. Then the page fits perfectly. I want to be able to keep the menu and >tool bars, but have the window size so that I can see my whole page without >adjusting the border by hand. Is there an Exchange session preference, >document info setting, or preferably, pdfmark code that I can embed in the >PostScript prior to distillation to fix my problem? I'd really prefer to solve >this with pdfmark code, if possible. > >Thanks, > >Rob Hakanson >Mentor Graphics >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 16:46:31-GMT,3871;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17660 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07864; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:14:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:11:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07623; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:11:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3540B955.3679C20C@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:09:57 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digitasl Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How to mount several index files (.pdx) at once? References: <002501bd6eaf$c98af060$7f045e8c@T04149.tls.mms.fr> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C1ACCE405960052191A62663" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --------------C1ACCE405960052191A62663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's very easy. Once you start the multi-document search, you will see indexes prompt. Click on it to add indexes and add the ones you need. Note that you have to built text databases with Catalog before the index command becomes useful. Hope this helps. Bob Moran Michel GARCIA wrote: > I have seen that it's possible to mount one index file with a PDF > file using the Acrobat Exchange tool (File->Document Info->Index). Is > there a way to mount several index files at once with one PDF > file? Please, reply me directly. Many thanks in advance. Michel GARCIA > (garcia@soleil.tls.mms.fr) -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com =93Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order=94 =96 Henry Miller --------------C1ACCE405960052191A62663 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's very easy. Once you start the multi-document search, you will see indexes prompt. Click on it to add indexes and add the ones you need. Not= e that you have to built text databases with Catalog before the index comma= nd becomes useful. Hope this helps.

Bob Moran

Michel GARCIA wrote:

 I h= ave seen that it's possible to mount one index file with a PDF file using the= Acrobat Exchange tool (File->Document Info->Index). Is there a way to mount several index files at once with one PDF file? Please, reply me directly. Many thanks in advance. Michel GARCIA (garc= ia@soleil.tls.mms.fr) 
 

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Robert E. Moran
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759 North Park Avenue
Redding, CT 06896
Tel 203-452-1116
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=93Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order=94 =96 Henry Mill= er
  --------------C1ACCE405960052191A62663-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 16:47:06-GMT,3303;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17679 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:47:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA08422; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:24:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:19:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08159; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:18:59 -0500 Message-Id: From: Bernhard Herzog To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] TIF+text to PDF without Adobe Capture Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:24:21 +0200 Organization: IST X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi everyone! I have already posted the following question to the newsgroup comp.text.pdf. I got some good answers (I have shortened them). Maybe someone can give me some more hints. -------- Some answers (read the question first) -------- -------- Many thanks to those who have answered!!! -------- [karl@grebyn.com] Well, you have a proof of implementation (in Capture) and if you take the PDF specification and some samples, you should be able to reverse engineer the "creation" process, no? [clarkp@uswest.net] Exchange (part of Acrobat) is cheaper than Capture and has a free capture plug-in (which is an older version) [alan.johnson@gel.com] There are several free TIFF to PDF converters (Imagemagic). Image is stored as a stream on a per page basis. Text itself is also stored as a stream on a per page basis. [He didn't know how the text relates to a word or region on the page - just how it looks to the end-user. I should look into the PDF spec] -------- Here begins my question -------- In several projects I have to convert TIF images + texts (OCR traced from TIF images) into PDF files. The TIF images should be displayed and the text should be for indexing only (invisble). If possible the text should be linked somehow to the image to allow selection/copy&paste/page searches. Note that I use a special OCR software (not Adobe Capture) - so I don't think this is possible (?). I have seen such documents created only by Adobe Capture (using its OCR features). But I don't want to use Adobe Capture if possible (too expensive). Does anybody had the same problem and how did he solve it? Does anybody know of another tool (code-library?) to do image+text to PDF conversion (the text for indexing only)? How does it work to connect a text to an image in PDF? Has anybody written a program to do the image+text to PDF conversion (maybe using a code-library)? Or does anybody know how this can be done? Thank you very much Bernhard Herzog, IST mailto:bherzog@ist.co.at http://www.ist.co.at +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 16:47:31-GMT,2203;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17691 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:47:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA08230; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:19:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:16:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07960; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:16:03 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Window resizing Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:10:51 +0100 Message-ID: <003c01bd6f9c$160d65c0$52f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <9804240850.ZM10224@mandolin> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I'm running on UNIX, and my display is plenty big enough to > display the whole > page, with the menu and tool bars showing. The problem is, > Acrobat does not > show the whole page. As a result, I either have to scroll or > lengthen the > Exchange window by hand. > > Because of my document's settings, Acrobat is taking the > trouble to resize the > window when I open my documents, but it is not making a big > enough window. For > some reason, it is creating a window big enough to display > the whole page ONLY > if menu and tool bars are turned off. Is this a bug? Is > there any way that I > can work around this? This may be a bug specific to Unix - it does not happen to me on a Windows PC set to 1280 x 1024. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 16:47:55-GMT,2320;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17840 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:47:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09033; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:36:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:31:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08752; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:31:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980424122413.00b6b320@designinfo.com> X-Sender: gaulin@designinfo.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:24:13 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gaulin Subject: [PDF] PGML is not XLM, it's an XML application In-Reply-To: <3540B113.414A@pre-print.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > My (limited) understanding of the concepts behind XML is that it is > intended to be completely devoid of appearance markup, ie an XML > document is purely structure (and content :-). [snip] > PGML seems like a bit of a step away from that ideal, because you are > embedding appearance in the document. How would a blind user's aural UA > render or ? You are correct in that XML is not intended to be a language which describes visual appearance. It is meant to be a flexible language/syntax/structure that allows XLM "applications" to be defined, where an "XML application" is a simply a standard/agreed upon way of interpreting XML tags. The user community is free to define XLM applications (such as PGML), and *those* applications can make the tags mean whatever they want, which means that explicit visual appearance is just as valid an application of XML as any other use, such as holding database records. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 17:04:24-GMT,2569;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18398 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:04:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09938; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:55:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:50:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09640; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:49:58 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:49:31 -0500 From: Paul Schulte To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Window resizing - Reply Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rob, On my Unix box (SunSolaris), I have the same action happening. I don't believe it's a bug as there is not enough screen real-estate to display the X-Windows borders, the menu bar, the button bar, and the doc at 100%. Try a magnification just a little smaller. Paul >>> "Aandi Inston" 04/24 11:10 am >>> > I'm running on UNIX, and my display is plenty big enough to > display the whole > page, with the menu and tool bars showing. The problem is, > Acrobat does not > show the whole page. As a result, I either have to scroll or > lengthen the > Exchange window by hand. > > Because of my document's settings, Acrobat is taking the > trouble to resize the > window when I open my documents, but it is not making a big > enough window. For > some reason, it is creating a window big enough to display > the whole page ONLY > if menu and tool bars are turned off. Is this a bug? Is > there any way that I > can work around this? This may be a bug specific to Unix - it does not happen to me on a Windows PC set to 1280 x 1024. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 17:54:20-GMT,2189;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20315 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:54:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA12152; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:38:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:32:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11762; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:32:45 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:31:09 -0500 To: From: "Larry Groebe" Subject: [PDF] Any way to extract thumbnails? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Although a new person on this list, I've looked in vain for this answer before asking... Our website includes PDF files of client projects. Right now on the client page these are just plain old text links to the PDF files. What we want as an obvious enhancement is to show the thumbnails from the PDF file on our web page. Users click on the thumbnail to get the whole document. Which means (unless there's a brialliant idea I haven't though of yet) that we need thumbnail part of the PDF converted to a GIF or a JPG. Seems like SOMEONE would have tackled this problem by now, but I don't see any solutions. I've even gone so far as too open up a PDF and pull out the thumbnail bytestream from it, but neither I nor my graphics canopener app can figure out how to read it. Anyone have a way to pull the thumbnails out of PDFs and turn them into JPGs or GIFs? (Preferabbly something automatable...) --Larry Groebe Insider Marketing +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 17:58:02-GMT,2404;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20493 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:58:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA12459; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:46:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:40:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12245; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:40:54 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804240714.JAA19502@mailhost.edpsciences.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:55:03 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] About URI Cc: Munier M-Louise Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Marie-Louise, you could try to use "\045" for the percent sign. This would be the octal representation of the character in PDFDocEncoding, which is used by Acrobat. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _____________ >Bonjour, > >Just a little detail about characters in URI request. >I need to have the character % in my URL. In PDF file, >I write it but the Acrobat reader converts it in %25 (ascii >code) and the URL is wrong. >How can I do. > >As it's a little detail, people could respond directly to my >personal address. > >Thanks very much in adavance > >+--------------------------------------------------------+ >Marie-Louise MUNIER >EDP Sciences >7 Avenue de Hoggar >Parc d'activites de Courtaboeuf >91944 Les Ulis Cedex A / France >+--------------------------------------------------------+ >e-mail: munier@edpsciences.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 18:09:39-GMT,2082;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21007 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:09:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13412; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:04:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:59:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13185; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:59:16 -0500 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <852565F0.00611217.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:52:54 -0400 Subject: [PDF] AdobePS 5.0 for Windows NT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone have an experience with the new AdobePS 5.0 for Windows NT? I heard that it has a problem when using to create PostScript files. I think in some cases, it takes many hours to create one PostScript file. Is this true? I also have a question about the best printer driver to use when creating PDF files. In our environment, many people in the company can submit PostScript files to my department to create PDF files because they don't have Acrobat Distiller installed on their PC's. We are trying to standardize the way people create PostScript files, so that all files will be consistent. Can someone tell me what is the best printer driver to use to give the best result (using Windows NT and Windows 3.1)? Some of our documents have colors, so we need the driver that can produce colors. Thanks, Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 18:10:38-GMT,2714;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21036 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:10:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13392; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:03:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:57:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13069; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:57:55 -0500 Message-ID: <009e01bd6faa$8744abf0$8cf912a8@stupocknee.cpes.peachnet.edu> From: "Stu Pocknee" To: Subject: [PDF] Newbie Q regarding image quality in PDF Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:58:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Here's a problem that others must have come across: I have .gif images that I load into WordPerfect 8 as part of a larger document and then print to PDF. The .gif's are line art (graphs and figures). When I print/write to PDF using PDFWriter the images display fine on screen. At the normal scaling they are difficult to see but you can zoom in and see that they are fully intact. The problem comes when printing the PDF to paper. The images loose all quality. Lines are left out on a seemingly indiscriminate basis. Many images also develop a black line running down the right hand side of the image. When I print/write to PDF using Distiller Assistant (v3.01) The images are treated differently. They seem to be resampled (lines get kind of blurry). They are readable in Reader at 100% scaling (but image quality does not increase much as you zoom in - the blurring just becomes more apparent). When you print the PDF to paper the images don't have lines dropped out but the blurring is quite noticeable. Not really acceptable. When printed straight from WordPerfect the images are perfect. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Is there a solution to getting quality images in my PDF's? Any thoughts highly appreciated, Stu Pocknee spocknee@tifton.cpes.peachnet.edu +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 19:43:16-GMT,2282;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24358 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:43:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA16563; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:19:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:10:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16278; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:10:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3540E41F.53C6B7D4@document-solutions.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:12:31 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Number of users of Acrobat References: <9804241217.AC06289@atla3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 mjahn wrote: > >>We must be looking at 50+ million downloads at this point, with 20 > >>million announced in 11/96. Time for a press release! > > Actually, there have been more Downloads of reader than individuals that > exsist on the planet. Heck, I have personally downloaded it 20 times this > year at various sites (updates not withstanding. ...and I bet many/most of those downloads were for end-users -- NOT for yourself! Anyway, my own personal total of 53 Reader downloads (not to mention 331 failed attempts -- is Adobe counting those?) is beside the point. This is MARKETING! This is a BIG, ROUND, JUICY number to flash in front of folks to help 'em see the light! -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 19:44:55-GMT,4031;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24440 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:44:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA16927; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:29:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:25:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16784; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:25:42 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980424192534.01808fdc@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> X-Sender: sasrzs@mailhost.fyi.sas.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:25:34 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randy Stoltz Subject: Re: [PDF] Newbie Q regarding image quality in PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 By default Acrobat Distiller will downsample grayscale and Black and white bitmap images to 72 dpi. This can cause the problem with blurring. Try setting the Acrobat Distiller Job Options to a higher value. A value of 200 - 250 will generally produce results that can be viewed online (including zooming) and will also print decently. The optimal value for this is dependent on your requirements (file size versus quality) and the actual resolution of the bitmap image. Try various values for downsampling to determine what works best for you. If quality of the image is very important turn off downsampling (and compression if necessary). At 01:58 PM 4/24/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Here's a problem that others must have come across: > >I have .gif images that I load into WordPerfect 8 as part of a larger >document >and then print to PDF. The .gif's are line art (graphs and figures). > >When I print/write to PDF using PDFWriter the images display fine on screen. >At the normal scaling they are difficult to see but you can zoom in and see >that >they are fully intact. The problem comes when printing the PDF to paper. The >images loose all quality. Lines are left out on a seemingly indiscriminate >basis. >Many images also develop a black line running down the right hand side of >the >image. > >When I print/write to PDF using Distiller Assistant (v3.01) The images are >treated differently. They seem to be resampled (lines get kind of blurry). >They >are readable in Reader at 100% scaling (but image quality does not increase >much as you zoom in - the blurring just becomes more apparent). When you >print the PDF to paper the images don't have lines dropped out but the >blurring is quite noticeable. Not really acceptable. > >When printed straight from WordPerfect the images are perfect. > >Does this sound familiar to anyone? Is there a solution to getting quality >images in my PDF's? > >Any thoughts highly appreciated, > > >Stu Pocknee >spocknee@tifton.cpes.peachnet.edu > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > _____________________________________________________________________ Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 ____________________________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 20:32:36-GMT,5320;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25987 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:32:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18020; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:58:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:52:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17758; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:52:20 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD6FCB.3CF31610.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Some PDF Questions Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:27:39 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanx Aandi and Dean for your quick response. More questions, though: > > 1. When I encapsulate fonts when producing PDF from PageMaker > > and then want > > to extract data from the resulting PDF, I get garbage. This > > same thing > > happens when trying to add a bookmark via selecting text and > > hitting Ctrl-B > > - I get garbage in the bookmark. I don't feel like turning to > > PageMaker > > source is the answer when trying just to extract some of the > > text. Is there > > a workaround? > > You should not rely on PDF as a medium for reuse of text, though > a number of programs are appearing to help with this task > ("repurposing" is the buzzword). Use it as a medium for document > storage. > > > > 2. According to my understanding of a paper pre-press groups > > from Germany > > and Switzerland have written there is no way to encapsulate > > (embed) some > > standard fonts, at least their western versions. Is that true? > > Yes, but this is unlikely to affect the majority of desktop > use. It is pre-press people, who may have to deal with idiots > who've changed the base fonts, that are mainly affected. Does this mean that for simply extracting some lines of text in central european fonts I have to give up? Oddly enough, I did produce a PDF where I can copy & extract text normally: I used central european true type font in PageMaker and options in PM and Distiller were set to embed fonts with no subsetting. How can that be? I run NT 4.0 (I reboot to Slovene settings before distilling because otherwise I get western version embedded), PageMaker 6.52, Distiller 3.02. > > 5. Donna pointed out that FrameMaker does support SGML > > tagging. To Adobe > > people: you have one of the most widely used technical documentation > > software and you have a document format and reader that are used by > > millions of people. Wouldn't it make sense to incorporate > > SGML capabilities > > in the next major upgrade of the PDF format? Webmasters > > cataloguing PDFs > > would be very grateful. And people seraching the Net too. I > > guess sales > > would boost. > > Sounds good in theory, but how does the SGML mark-up get in there? > The beauty of PDFs is that you can make them with just about anything. > I'm suspicious of initiatives which tie people back to particular > applications. You probably have in mind PDF's vector-only defined structure. I know incorporation of SGML capabilities would drastically change the format specifications. But, IMHO, the results would justify the pain. I put all my college stuff (so far) into PDFs, catalogued files via Acrobat Catalog and it is stunning. For instance, when searching for PEP (phosphoenolpiruvate), I get hits in Microbiology, Biochemistry, Animal Physiology and Biology of the Cell. This appears to have (very basically) similar effects as cross-reference links in Britannica 98. Just imagine what would SGML do. I agree production versatility is of crucial importance. It's what (partly) made PDF so popular. What do you mean by tying back to particular apps? FrameMaker wouldn't be the only SGML capable PDF producer for long, I believe. (or did I miss the point here?) > > 7. A long thread started by Russell's question we learned > > some interesting > > things about Mac file system. I'm curious, is there a possibility of > > running a program when a CD is inserted on a Mac? Like > > description found in > > autorun.inf on Win platforms? Also, is it possible under > > Linux? If possible > > on a Mac, can there be mastered a hybrid CD-ROM to support > > autorun features > > on more than one platform? > > Macs do not have this rather unsavoury feature (which, while handy > for developers, sends chills down my spine). Just about anything can > happen with Linux, but the Linux community are a bit more security > savvy, I think. [later] >I guess Apple couldn't bear to have PC users the only ones to live in fear. It is possible to turn the thing off on Win 95/NT. How about the Mac? Jernej +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 20:32:40-GMT,2767;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25996 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:32:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18694; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:14:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:10:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18541; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:10:50 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565F0.006CC5F3.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:10:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] AdobePS 5.0 for Windows NT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've experienced no difficulties using 5.0 as yet. However, I am the only one using it right now until I get the chance to check it out under different conditions. The way we handled your 2nd question was to install a driver for the HP Color Laser on all systems. This printer is selected to compose the document. Then they print a .PRN or .PS file to a watched directory that is shared on the NT network (Add & Read Only) where one person has complete control of all Distiller settings.(me) This has worked out OK so far. You can make the per- missions different on the output directory to allow anyone to edit, move, or copy the PDF to it's final destination. Rick Bishop PRP Media, Houston Does anyone have an experience with the new AdobePS 5.0 for Windows NT? I heard that it has a problem when using to create PostScript files. I think in some cases, it takes many hours to create one PostScript file. Is this true? I also have a question about the best printer driver to use when creating PDF files. In our environment, many people in the company can submit PostScript files to my department to create PDF files because they don't have Acrobat Distiller installed on their PC's. We are trying to standardize the way people create PostScript files, so that all files will be consistent. Can someone tell me what is the best printer driver to use to give the best result (using Windows NT and Windows 3.1)? Some of our documents have colors, so we need the driver that can produce colors. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 21:48:10-GMT,2496;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28565 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:48:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA22517; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:33:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:28:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21952; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:28:24 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Any way to extract thumbnails? Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:22:42 +0100 Message-ID: <004101bd6fc7$bfa3ccc0$52f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I did some experiments with thumbnails. The quality is AWFUL. It really wasn't worth trying to do anything with them. If you want to extract them at their current size, then use a screen shot. Aandi > Although a new person on this list, I've looked in vain for > this answer > before asking... > > Our website includes PDF files of client projects. Right now on the > client page these are just plain old text links to the PDF > files. What we > want as an obvious enhancement is to show the thumbnails from the PDF > file on our web page. Users click on the thumbnail to get the whole > document. > > Which means (unless there's a brialliant idea I haven't though of yet) > that we need thumbnail part of the PDF converted to a GIF or a JPG. > Seems like SOMEONE would have tackled this problem by now, but I don't > see any solutions. I've even gone so far as too open up a PDF and pull > out the thumbnail bytestream from it, but neither I nor my graphics > canopener app can figure out how to read it. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 22:09:44-GMT,2820;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29315 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:09:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23519; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:58:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:54:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23303; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:54:01 -0500 Message-ID: <35410A2E.3B79@pre-print.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:54:55 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: Almin Surani Subject: [PDF] New fonts for GhostScript References: <004101bd6fc7$bfa3ccc0$52f582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm not sure this is the right forum for these questions, but since we're wending afield into PGML, I hope that GhostScript questions are permissible. I can't get GhostScript to recognize the fonts we're using. I was told that (thanks Andrew Gabriel) since GhostScript came with a limited set, my recourse was "loading commercial quality PostScript fonts into GhostScript." There doesn't seem to be an "add font resource" option in GhostScript itself. I checked the fonts folder (in the GhostScript folder) to find that it contained a series of metrics files: [.afms], [.pfms] and.[pfbs]. Being on a Mac, we don't normally use those metrics, but with Fontographer, well I was able to output all of them but the [.pfbs]. GhostScript still will not recognize any fonts outside its standard set, even though I was requesting the fonts for which I had supplied [.afms] and [.pfms]. 1) Is the fonts folder the wrong place to do this? 2) Does GhostScript need all three metrics files? (If so, do you know why?) 3) Do those metrics have to come from a different source than Fontographer? 4) What are [.pfbs] and why won't Fontographer output them? 5) Am I on the wrong track? ------------------------------------------------------- Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 22:58:33-GMT,2309;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00921 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:58:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA25345; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:44:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:38:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25133; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:38:18 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Apr 98 15:37 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, asurani@pre-print.com In-reply-to: <35410A2E.3B79@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] New fonts for GhostScript Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I'm not sure this is the right forum for these questions, but since we're > wending afield into PGML, I hope that GhostScript questions are permissible. Please don't post general Ghostscript questions here. If your questions are about GNU Ghostscript, please post them to gnu.ghostscript.bug; if they are about Aladdin Ghostscript, please post them to comp.lang.postscript. I've gone on the assumption that general questions or discussion about Ghostscript's PDF-related capabilities (other than specific "tech support" kinds of questions) are OK here, just like similar discussions about Acrobat products or other PDF-related software, but that's up to the list hosts, and if I go out of line, I hope they'll let me know. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html * Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your e-mail and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net * +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Apr-1998 23:36:28-GMT,2310;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02012 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:36:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA26983; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:20:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:16:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26850; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:16:35 -0500 From: Pushmag Message-ID: <1db4de6a.35411b29@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:07:20 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Push Magazine Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 56 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 My name is John Fountain and I'm the publisher of Push. Push Magazine -- the world's first bi-weekly international PDF-based Internet magazine -- is a tongue-in-cheek look at how popular culture and the media intersect on the Internet from a media-friendly, yet slightly cynical, perspective. Push encourages its readers to be critical thinkers and connoisseurs of the best that the Internet has to offer. We launched on 9 March 1998 and have more than 5,000 global readers. I wanted to approach the readers of this list (whom I assume are familiar with PDFs and share a common interest and appreciation for this format) to consider checking out my magazine. Subscriptions are FREE (and will always be free) and are available by sending a note to subs@push-mag.com. Moreover, I would love to know how others are using this format.I want to examine in Push how PDF is revolutionizing the publishing arena. Also, drop me line with any cool Websites you may know of! Thanks! John Fountain Publisher, Push Magazine publisher@push-mag.com http://www.push-mag.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Apr-1998 1:48:13-GMT,1828;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05318 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:48:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA31502; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:29:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:22:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA31218; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:22:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 13:22:26 +1200 (NZST) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1db4de6a.35411b29@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: Re: [PDF] Push Magazine Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 7:07 PM -0400 24/4/98, Pushmag wrote: >My name is John Fountain >and I'm the publisher of Push. I'm intrested John. How large wil it be, and have you solved the issue with some mailers treating the pdf as a text file instead of binary?? Please send me more info. :)> andrew ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Apr-1998 2:00:03-GMT,2326;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05601 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:00:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA32370; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:53:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:48:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA32211; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:48:47 -0500 Message-ID: <840631BE4045D11186BB00400536BFB01FA54E@zeus.snapweb.com> From: Ian Varley To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Large Scale TIFF Conversion Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:49:01 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I know there have been several threads on this list about TIFF -> PDF conversion, but I have a very specific question: I am looking into a project where I'll need to convert the following body of files from TIFF to PDF: - 70,000 documents - 10 pages (8.5 x 11 inch) in each document - Average 900K per 10 page TIFF document These files need to be converted into PDF files under the following conditions: - Minimal conversion (i.e. just TIFF with PDF wrapper); no OCR or Capture - 5000 conversions per day for 15 days, then the remaining documents over the next 15 days. - Very little developer interaction during the conversion process. (i.e. automatable) running 24hrs on its own processor. Are there any conversion programs that are up to this kind of volume and these requirements? Price is no object - performance is most important. Please respond to me directly if you know of software that is up to this, as I'm on Digest for this list and won't get list replies till tomorrow night. Thanks a million! Ian Varley SNAP Technologies Inc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Apr-1998 3:21:47-GMT,2240;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07492 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:21:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA02065; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:07:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:01:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01830; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:01:56 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <1db4de6a.35411b29@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:02:09 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Push Magazine Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Please direct specific inquiries about the publication *directly* to the original sender rather than to all list subscribers. tks ~ Kurt === At 1:22 PM +1200 4/25/98, Andrew R. Both wrote: I'm intrested John. How large wil it be, and have you solved the issue with some mailers treating the pdf as a text file instead of binary?? Please send me more info. ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - => PDF lists: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html => Emerge EXTRA: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars -30- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Apr-1998 5:50:15-GMT,1519;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11103 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:50:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA06171; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 00:33:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Apr 1998 00:26:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05968; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 00:26:02 -0500 From: Pushmag Message-ID: <985d8508.354171b9@aol.com> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:16:40 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PDF] Push Magazine Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 56 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Andrew, Unfortunately, Push can only be read by people who have e-mail accounts that are MIME compliant. For those who don't, we usually recommend that they get a free account through hotmail (www.hotmail.com) which can handle attachments. Let's stay in touch! John +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Apr-1998 6:51:39-GMT,1954;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA20396 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 00:51:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA07891; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:34:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:29:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA07658; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:29:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 18:28:39 +1200 (NZST) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <985d8508.354171b9@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: Re: [PDF] Push Magazine Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 1:16 AM -0400 25/4/98, Pushmag wrote: >Hi Andrew, > >Unfortunately, Push can only be read by people who have e-mail accounts that >are MIME compliant. For those who don't, we usually recommend that they get a >free account through hotmail (www.hotmail.com) which can handle attachments. > >Let's stay in touch! John << sorry all but John I've lost your address please repsond oustisde the list etc ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Apr-1998 22:55:30-GMT,1678;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22293 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 16:55:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA03354; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:38:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:29:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02907; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:29:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980425152810.00978ad0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: jyc2@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 15:28:10 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Ian Varley From: James Cheng Subject: Re: [PDF] Large Scale TIFF Conversion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Oh, and the performance of this should be adequate for your needs. Get a fast unix box, and everything should fly. If you manage it correctly, you can just execute one command, and it'll run through all the stuff you want for 15 days straight. Do some test runs, of course, to see how to throughput is. James Cheng +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Apr-1998 22:55:30-GMT,3692;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22292 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 16:55:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA03355; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:38:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:27:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02751; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:27:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980425152538.00f54dd0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: jyc2@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 15:25:38 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Ian Varley From: James Cheng Subject: Re: [PDF] Large Scale TIFF Conversion In-Reply-To: <840631BE4045D11186BB00400536BFB01FA54E@zeus.snapweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 06:49 PM 4/24/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello, > >I know there have been several threads on this list about TIFF -> PDF >conversion, but I have a very specific question: > >I am looking into a project where I'll need to convert the following >body of files from TIFF to PDF: > >- 70,000 documents >- 10 pages (8.5 x 11 inch) in each document >- Average 900K per 10 page TIFF document > >These files need to be converted into PDF files under the following >conditions: > >- Minimal conversion (i.e. just TIFF with PDF wrapper); no OCR or >Capture >- 5000 conversions per day for 15 days, then the remaining documents >over the next 15 days. >- Very little developer interaction during the conversion process. (i.e. >automatable) running 24hrs on its own processor. > >Are there any conversion programs that are up to this kind of volume and >these requirements? Price is no object - performance is most important. >Please respond to me directly if you know of software that is up to >this, as I'm on Digest for this list and won't get list replies till >tomorrow night. Thanks a million! > >Ian Varley >SNAP Technologies Inc. >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ You say that price is not an object. How about free? Using the Unix tools tiff2ps (which is part of libtiff) and ghostscript, you can easily batch convert tons of tiff files to pdf. The basic method is use tiff2ps to produce a postscript file. then use ghostscript to convert from postscript to pdf. This should give you enough of an idea about how to do it. If you do not have a unix box around, or are not well-versed in unix, then please send a message to me asking me for more help. or, ask you local unix expert to do it. just so you know, i think only ghostscript version 5 and up support pdf output. so you might have to download a new version of that. and don't forget, it's all free, so don't worry about the cost of upgrading ghostscript. ah... i'm slowly learning the power of Unix... Sincerely, James Cheng +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Apr-1998 3:12:32-GMT,2523;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27580 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 21:12:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA11393; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 21:57:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Apr 1998 21:50:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11195; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 21:50:38 -0500 Message-ID: <001801bd70be$1f4c1960$8cf912a8@stupocknee.cpes.peachnet.edu> From: "Stu Pocknee" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Newbie Q regarding image quality in PDF Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 22:50:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hey Randy, thanks very much for the answer to my problem. You're a life-saver! I need to do some more experimenting with the size vs downsampling issue, but it works like a gem.... Thanks! stu pocknee -----Original Message----- From: Randy Stoltz To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, April 24, 1998 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Newbie Q regarding image quality in PDF > >By default Acrobat Distiller will downsample grayscale and Black and white >bitmap images to 72 dpi. This can cause the problem with blurring. Try >setting the Acrobat Distiller Job Options to a higher value. A value of 200 >- 250 will generally produce results that can be viewed online (including >zooming) and will also print decently. The optimal value for this is >dependent on your requirements (file size versus quality) and the actual >resolution of the bitmap image. Try various values for downsampling to >determine what works best for you. > >If quality of the image is very important turn off downsampling (and >compression if necessary). > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Apr-1998 4:14:35-GMT,2598;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29088 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 22:14:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13785; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:14:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:07:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13449; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:07:09 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:07:22 -0500 To: PDF-Announce From: Jonathan West Subject: [PDF-ANC] ANNOUNCE: MultiLinker 2.0 for Word 97 Sender: owner-pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 MultiLinker is the program you need to take large batches of Word documents and prepare them for publication on CD-ROM or on the Web. MultiLinker can automatically insert hyperlinks in and between documents, including - from the table of contents to headings - to the titles of other documents - from any occurrence of an abbreviation or term to the place where it is defined - from any cross-reference to a clause, table or figure to the point referred to MultiLinker also converts Word documents to PDF and HTML, whilst retaining hyperlinks both within and between documents. MultiLinker has powerful batch-processing capabilities, allowing you to set up unattended processing of complete folders of files, including files in subfolders. MultiLinker 1.0 (for Word 6/7) has already been successfully used to generate CDs with documentation totalling 20,000 pages and half a million hyperlinks. Totally rewritten, MultiLinker 2.0 is an improved version designed to operate with Microsoft Word 97 and take advantage of its more powerful features. For more information about MultiLinker, go to http://www.multilinker.com or send mail to IIS_Ltd@compuserve.com. -- regards Jonathan West Multilinker - Automated generation of hyperlinks in Word Conversion to PDF & HTML http://www.multilinker.com +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + + Send questions or feedback to: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Apr-1998 15:27:47-GMT,1813;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01883 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 09:27:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00072; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 10:10:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Apr 1998 10:04:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32584; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 10:04:07 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 10:04:23 -0500 To: From: "Jason Wells" Subject: [PDF] Adding a plug in to the installation Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all, I am trying to add a plugin to the installation of the win32 reader 3.0. I have tried to add the Abcpy.ini with the required commands but l cannot get it to work. I am unfamiliar with the setup syntax. I want to add a plugin to the \Reader\Plug_ins folder and add a 'ini' file to the windows\system folder. Can any one help I have placed the Abcpy.ini file in the same directory as the setup.exe program. I have also placed the plugin and ini file in the same folder (Disk1). Thanks Jason Wells 24 Nicholson Crese, Jan Juc, Vic, Aust,3228 03 52613782 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Apr-1998 22:12:12-GMT,3961;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10798 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:12:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14208; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:58:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:52:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14018; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:52:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199804262152.RAA09615@dax.cc.uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 17:51:03 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Anomalies of Optimization and Radio Button Fields Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Below is a (crude) postscript file. Run it through distiller bring it up in exchange and test is out. Your comments would be appreciated. Regards, ------------------- cut here ------------------------------- %!PS-Adobe-3.0 [ /_objdef {afields} /type /array /OBJ pdfmark [ /_objdef {aform} /type /dict /OBJ pdfmark [ {aform} << /Fields {afields} /DR << /Font << >> >> /DA (/Helv 12 Tf 0 g ) /NeedAppearances true >> /PUT pdfmark [ {Catalog} << /AcroForm {aform} >> /PUT pdfmark /inch { 72 mul } def /slf{show currentpoint exch pop 0 exch -12 add moveto currentpoint translate} def /lf{currentpoint exch pop 0 exch -12 add moveto currentpoint translate} def /Helvetica 10 selectfont 1 inch 10 inch moveto currentpoint translate (Anomalies of Optimization and Radio Button Fields) slf lf (Both sets of Radio Button Fields work properly when the file) slf (is not optimized.) slf lf (This radio button field will disappear when we use Batch Optimize) slf (but will work properly when saved using Save As ... from Exchange) slf [ /_objdef {radioi} /type /dict /OBJ pdfmark [ {radioi} << /T (radioi) /FT /Btn /Ff 49152 /AS /Off /Kids [{radioi1}{radioi2}] >> /PUT pdfmark lf (Are you married?) slf [ /_objdef {radioi1} /Rect [10 10] /Parent {radioi} /F 4 /H /P /BS << /W 1 /S /S >> /MK << /BC [ 0 0 0 ] /CA (l) >> /DA (/ZaDb 12 Tf 0 g) /$On /C1 /Subtype /Widget /ANN pdfmark currentpoint exch 12 add exch moveto (Yes) slf [ /_objdef {radioi2} /Rect [10 10] /Parent {radioi} /H /P /F 4 /DA (/ZaDb 12 Tf 0 g) /BS << /W 1 /S /S >> /MK << /BC [ 0 0 0 ] /CA (l) >> /$On /C2 /Subtype /Widget /ANN pdfmark currentpoint exch 12 add exch moveto (No) slf lf (This version works properly after Batch Optimize, but will) slf (not work when saved using Save As ... from Exchange:) slf lf (Are you married?) slf [ /_objdef {radioii1} /Rect [10 10] /T (radioii1) /Kids [{radioii2}] /FT /Btn /Ff 49152 /F 4 /H /P /AS /Off /BS << /W 1 /S /S >> /MK << /BC [ 0 0 0 ] /CA (l) >> /DA (/ZaDb 12 Tf 0 g) /$On /C1 /Subtype /Widget /ANN pdfmark currentpoint exch 12 add exch moveto (Yes) slf [ /_objdef {radioii2} /Rect [10 10] /Parent {radioii1} /H /P /F 4 /AS /Off /DA (/ZaDb 12 Tf 0 g) /BS << /W 1 /S /S >> /MK << /BC [ 0 0 0 ] /CA (l) >> /$On /C2 /Subtype /Widget /ANN pdfmark currentpoint exch 12 add exch moveto (No) slf lf lf lf (Your comments would be appreciated.) slf (Contact me at e-mail address: dpstory@uakron.edu) slf lf lf lf (Pardon my crude PostScript. Usually I function in TeX) slf (but I wanted this example to be accessible by all.) slf showpage +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 2:56:15-GMT,2140;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17109 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:56:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23152; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:40:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:35:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22858; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:35:01 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:35:16 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: H.W.A.Krafft@ub.rug.nl Subject: [PDF] embedded fonts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm working at the University Library of Groningen and for my work I'm looking for some information related to conversion from any wordprocessor format, such as Word, Wordperfect etc. etc. For your information, my work consists of making converions of dissertations in Word, WP, Postscript which I had to convert in PDF by means of Acrobat Destiller 3.01 and Acrobat Exchange and finally put it down in the Internet. In order to preserve these pdf. documents for the future, I had received some information to make "embedded fonts" of it in Acrobat Destiller before conversion, and this is my queustion to you all, who maybe have some experiences how to do it namely: a description how to make embedded fonts in Acrobat. Thanks in advance Henri University Library of Groningen Serials and Conversion Electronic publication section H.W.A. Krafft email: H.W.A.Krafft@ub.rug.nl Phone: 31-50-3635273 Fax:31-50-3634996 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 2:58:58-GMT,6032;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17172 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:58:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA22785; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:33:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:25:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22349; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:24:58 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD7162.290A0C60@178.hartford-03.ct.dial-access.att.net> From: Schwarzenbach Family To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automation of Exchange Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:26:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD7162.290A0C60" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD7162.290A0C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adobe has several technical documents that detail the operation of = Automation and Acrobat... Go to their site and retrieve PDFWriter = Control Interface Specification, TN #5159 and Acrobat Viewer = Interapplication Communication OnLine Reference TN #5165... It is best = to use DDE only for simple stuff...the Automation stuff works great from = anyplace Automation is allowed... (Excel, Access, PowerPoint, Word, VB) If you have specific questions or problems you can contact me offline as = well... Good Luck\ Dan. ---------- From: Patrick Menter[SMTP:pwmenter@concentric.net] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 12:47 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Automation of Exchange I am interested in controlling adobe exchange with DDE to process documents, has anyone out there done this or do you know of another way to use scripts or DDE/ActiveX to control adobe exchange for automatic document generation. I need this in order to automate a documentation generation process that is pretty much routine but the use of exchange would be very convienient and makes sense. 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Is there any text? Is it the correct one? Or a completly unreadable mess? Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) tdevoe@lsijax.com on 21.04.98 16:05:08 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts We are trying to create a searchable (i.e. Normal) PDF from an Interleaf 6 document that resides on a Unix. This document contains the fonts 'Swiss' and 'Thames'. We converted the document into postscript using an HP 4V ps driver and then distilled it. The file distills normally with NO errors. However, it isn't searchable - it's been made image-only. We've tried embedding all fonts with the same results - NO errors and NOT searchable. I have access to a Windows platform that is also loaded with Adobe Acrobat (both Exchange, etc. and Capture) but I don't have the required fonts on this machine. I have been focusing on the 'font' as causing the problem but if I'm missing something obvious, please help. If there are any suggestions, I'd appreciate them. I've browsed the archives and Aandi, you once mentioned to someone else on a font problem that they might be able to change the font in the postscript file. I would like to avoid this option if possible since it's necessary for the PDF and the printed output (printed from Interleaf) match. We could change the fonts in Interleaf but that would require much more time than we have to modify illustrations/page breaks/etc... (it's a technical manual). If my last option is to change the font in the postscript file, how do I go about it? I've opened it up in a text editor, but do I just change the tag '/PSOwstswissb' and what do I change it to? I am not very familiar with Distiller, nor PS, so any info would help (if it's basic - good, just email directly to me). Thanks, Tracie DeVoe +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 11:26:26-GMT,2995;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18367 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 05:26:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA05655; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 06:10:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 06:06:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05501; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 06:06:04 -0500 Message-Id: <98Apr27.130441gmt+0100.22401-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick WOLF To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Cc: "'wells@deakin.edu.au'" Subject: RE:[PDF] Adding a plug in to the installation Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:12:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA05498 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Jason, Try the following: In Abcpy.ini: [ReaderBlindCopy] NumberOfGroups=2 Group1Platform=Win32 Group1DestDir=Plug_ins Group1Loc= Group1Name= Group1NumberOfRequirements=0 Group1NumberOfFiles=2 Group1FileName1=plugin_name.api // name of the plugin Group1NumberOfIcons=0 Group1NumberOfRegEntries=0 Group1NumberOfIniSettings=0 Group2Platform=Win32 Group2DestDir=$WindowsSystem Group2Loc= Group2Name= Group2NumberOfRequirements=0 Group2NumberOfFiles=1 Group2FileName1=inifilename.ini // name of your ini file Group2NumberOfIcons=0 Group2NumberOfRegEntries=0 Group2NumberOfIniSettings=0 In this example, you must place your files in the same directory as setup.exe. By the way, if the destination folder of your ini-file is Windows, replace $WindowsSystem with $Windows. That should work ! Yannick Wolf CD-ROM Development Basler Zeitung y.wolf@baz.ch -------------- Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 10:04:23 -0500 From: "Jason Wells" Subject: [PDF] Adding a plug in to the installation Hi all, I am trying to add a plugin to the installation of the win32 reader 3.0. I have tried to add the Abcpy.ini with the required commands but l cannot get it to work. I am unfamiliar with the setup syntax. I want to add a plugin to the \Reader\Plug_ins folder and add a 'ini' file to the windows\system folder. Can any one help I have placed the Abcpy.ini file in the same directory as the setup.exe program. I have also placed the plugin and ini file in the same folder (Disk1). Thanks Jason Wells 24 Nicholson Crese, Jan Juc, Vic, Aust,3228 03 52613782 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 12:57:36-GMT,1689;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20544 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 06:57:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA08582; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:39:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:35:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08408; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:35:21 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565F3.00445ED0.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:34:55 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Network install of Reader w/ NT-SMS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 List: Has anyone had success pushing the Reader software with SMS on an NT network? Our IS people seem to be having "major difficulties" and "can't make it work" problems. Any guidance or hints I could pass along to them would be a great help. My own studies seem to show it shouldn't be all that hard to do, but I don't have Admin control to try anything myself. Thank you, Rick Bishop mailto:bishor@champint.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 14:35:35-GMT,2729;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23661 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:35:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA14143; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:20:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:15:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13597; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:15:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: next.aps.org: doyle owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:15:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Doyle To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: ivarley@snapweb.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Large Scale TIFF Conversion In-Reply-To: <840631BE4045D11186BB00400536BFB01FA54E@zeus.snapweb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Ian Varley wrote: > I am looking into a project where I'll need to convert the following > body of files from TIFF to PDF: > > - 70,000 documents > - 10 pages (8.5 x 11 inch) in each document > - Average 900K per 10 page TIFF document > > These files need to be converted into PDF files under the following > conditions: > > - Minimal conversion (i.e. just TIFF with PDF wrapper); no OCR or > Capture > - 5000 conversions per day for 15 days, then the remaining documents > over the next 15 days. > - Very little developer interaction during the conversion process. (i.e. > automatable) running 24hrs on its own processor. > > Are there any conversion programs that are up to this kind of volume and > these requirements? Price is no object - performance is most important. I have a (public domain?) program called g42pdf that will take g4 tiffs and create PDF's out of them by wrapping them into PDF objects. I can make the source available. You would have to compile it for your target platform, but it is straight C-code and has both MS-DOS and Unix defines. I can convert 10's of tiffs into a PDF file in several seconds on my fast Sun box, so I am sure it is up to your speed requirements. I suppose it is only useful if the TIFF's are in g4 format (standard for scanned pages I believe). Cheers, Mark +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 14:54:25-GMT,1775;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24226 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:54:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA15152; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:41:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:37:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14922; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:37:15 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980423122215.00943460@vaxxine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:35:32 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Beth Fischi Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We're using PDF documents at the Texas Animal Health Commission (small Texas state agency of about 220 employees). I've also seen a number of PDF documents (internal policies & procedures) produced by the U.S. Army. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Beth Fischi Technical Writer Texas Animal Health Commission Voice: 1-800-550-8242 x733 Fax: (512) 719-0729 E-mail: bethf@tahc.state.tx.us http://www.tahc.state.tx.us =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 16:01:59-GMT,2470;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27477 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:01:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA18118; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:38:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:33:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17922; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:33:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980427083602.007eb7b0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:36:02 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Adding a plug in to the installation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You don't need to create your own ini file, you only have to specify the settings you want it to have and the rest is done automatically. At 10:04 AM 4/26/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi all, >I am trying to add a plugin to the installation of the win32 reader 3.0. >I have tried to add the Abcpy.ini with the required commands but l cannot >get it to work. >I am unfamiliar with the setup syntax. > >I want to add a plugin to the \Reader\Plug_ins folder and add a 'ini' file >to the windows\system folder. > >Can any one help > >I have placed the Abcpy.ini file in the same directory as the setup.exe >program. I have also placed the plugin and ini file in the same folder >(Disk1). > >Thanks > >Jason Wells >24 Nicholson Crese, >Jan Juc, Vic, Aust,3228 >03 52613782 > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 16:03:47-GMT,2136;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27564 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:03:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA18662; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:48:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:46:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18504; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:46:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980427084917.007e3610@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:49:17 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: RE:[PDF] Adding a plug in to the installation In-Reply-To: <98Apr27.130441gmt+0100.22401-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 12:12 PM 4/27/98 +0100, you wrote: >In this example, you must place your files in the same directory as setup.exe. By the way, if the destination folder of your ini-file is Windows, replace $WindowsSystem with $Windows. > Actually, the only file that has to be in the same directory as setup.exe is abcpy.ini. You can tell setup which directories your additional files are in and which directories you want them to go into. Look at abcpydoc.ini for additional info, or send me an e-mail and I'll tell you how I did it. --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 16:11:42-GMT,5181;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27827 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:11:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19215; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:00:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:57:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19001; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:57:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3544AD0C.8C8E90D0@lsijax.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:06:36 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: Antwort: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <412565F3.003E03BF.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It's a completely unreadable mess....We've tried 'embedding all fonts' and 'subsetting fonts' at 100% or 99% or 1% and even taking off 'embedding'. Nothing seems to work. I can find the 'swiss' font in the postscript file so that may not be the problem. I think it's 'Thames' that's causing the trouble since I don't see it in the postscript file - just a font 'dutch'. Yet when I looked at the pdf file produced (when using 'embed all fonts' ) it showed that all fonts were embedded - we received no errors - just unrecognizable text as far as searching/bookmarks/ etc.. If I knew how to read the postscript file better, I would substitute out the problem font. If you have any clues for me, I'd appreciate it!! Thanks, Tracie DeVoe Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote: > Hi Tracie, > > When you mark the text and do a copy&paste to an ASCII > aditor... > Is there any text? > Is it the correct one? > Or a completly unreadable mess? > > Regards, > Laura Dietz > (Mannesmann Arcor) > > tdevoe@lsijax.com on 21.04.98 16:05:08 > > Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) > Thema: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts > > We are trying to create a searchable (i.e. Normal) PDF from an > Interleaf 6 document that resides on a Unix. This document > contains the fonts 'Swiss' and 'Thames'. We converted the > document into postscript using an HP 4V ps driver and then > distilled it. The file distills normally with NO errors. > However, it isn't searchable - it's been made image-only. > We've tried embedding all fonts with the same results - NO > errors > and NOT searchable. I have access to a Windows platform that > is > also loaded with Adobe Acrobat (both Exchange, etc. and > Capture) > but I don't have the required fonts on this machine. I have > been > focusing on the 'font' as causing the problem but if I'm > missing > something obvious, please help. If there are any suggestions, > I'd appreciate them. > I've browsed the archives and Aandi, you once mentioned to > someone else on a font problem that they might be able to > change > the font in the postscript file. I would like to avoid this > option if possible since it's necessary for the PDF and the > printed output (printed from Interleaf) match. We could > change > the fonts in Interleaf but that would require much more time > than > we have to modify illustrations/page breaks/etc... (it's a > technical manual). If my last option is to change the font in > the postscript file, how do I go about it? I've opened it up > in > a text editor, but do I just change the tag '/PSOwstswissb' and > > what do I change it to? I am not very familiar with Distiller, > > nor PS, so any info would help (if it's basic - good, just > email > directly to me). > Thanks, > Tracie DeVoe > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Tracie DeVoe > Logistic Services International > 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 > Elizabeth City, NC 27909 > PH#: (252) 335-6239 > FAX: (252) 335-6463 > email: tdevoe@lsijax.com > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > +---------------------------------------- > -------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 16:51:26-GMT,2004;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28836 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:51:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20779; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:31:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:28:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20569; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:28:36 -0500 X-Sender: u114536@cic-mail.lanl.gov Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804240523.AAA16912@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:28:57 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Jim Morgan, CIC-1" Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mark, The Department of Energy is making all of its (unclassified) technical reports available via the Web in PDF format. Also, an Acrobat representative made an interesting observation in a recent meeting. The reason state attorneys general are able to come up with useful information quickly from the thousands of documents released by the tobacco compaines is Acrobat: the documents are scanned in and converted to PDF so they can be searched electronically. Jim >Mark Rickan wrote: > >> Anyone have a list of firms that have sanctioned the use of PDF? %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jim Morgan CIC-1 Central Ops. Project Leader Phone: (505) 665-8781 Pager: 104-8570 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 17:03:55-GMT,2413;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29138 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:03:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA22086; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:54:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:51:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21889; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:51:35 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: Antwort: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:06:36 EDT." <3544AD0C.8C8E90D0@lsijax.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:48:59 +0100 Message-ID: <5276.893695739@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:06:36 EDT, "Tracie K. DeVoe" wrote: > > It's a completely unreadable mess....We've tried 'embedding all > fonts' and 'subsetting fonts' at 100% or 99% or 1% and even > taking off 'embedding'. Nothing seems to work. I can find the > 'swiss' font in the postscript file so that may not be the > problem. I think it's 'Thames' that's causing the trouble since > I don't see it in the postscript file - just a font 'dutch'. Yet > when I looked at the pdf file produced (when using 'embed all > fonts' ) it showed that all fonts were embedded - we received no > errors - just unrecognizable text as far as searching/bookmarks/ > etc.. If I knew how to read the postscript file better, I would > substitute out the problem font. If you have any clues for me, > I'd appreciate it!! > > Thanks, > Tracie DeVoe If the font is being written into the PS file as a Type 3 font, this might be why Distiller is making a pig's ear of things (A Type 3 font is *often* nothing more than a bitmap font.) Does your Interleaf printer driver have the option to embed the fonts using different formats at all? Chris +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 17:51:08-GMT,2043;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00305 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23481; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:23:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:20:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23356; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:20:56 -0500 Message-Id: <9804271626.AA19598@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] PGML possibilties Date: Mon, 27 Apr 98 12:30:44 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Gunnar Blodgett wrote : >I guess I've got a bit of a problem with any visual (if you'll excuse >the exclusion of blind websurfers for a moment) medium being "devoid of >appearance markup". Can you please explain to me how that would be >different than the old text-only Bulletin Boards? Exactly. With the advent of PGML, It looks like we will have a open version of something similar in concept to "Display PostScript" in a web browser and applications that can create and display these files - and I for one am thrilled. Please reply to mikejahn@jahn.com Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa-Gevaert N.V. 200 Ballardvale St. MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P: 978.658.0200 ext 5504 I: www.jahn.org Cell Phone: 617.605.5716 F: 508.658.8982 (but don't send me a FAX -send a PDF file!) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 18:39:38-GMT,3076;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01434 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:39:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26130; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:20:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:15:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25883; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:15:17 -0500 From: "Eric Solberg" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PGML possibilties Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 23:19:24 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd726d$96eae4a0$0b45e326@r-d.synapsis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Gunnar Blodgett wrote : > >>I guess I've got a bit of a problem with any visual (if you'll excuse >>the exclusion of blind websurfers for a moment) medium being "devoid of >>appearance markup". Can you please explain to me how that would be >>different than the old text-only Bulletin Boards? The trend has been toward a separation of content and representation. Its not that the medium is devoid of appearance, but that the appearance markup is applied separately from the content. In fact, the original HTML was supposed to provide this for technical documentation. Some examples are: SGML for content and DSSSL for markup, or XML for content and XSL for markup. This way different markup 'style sheets' can be applied separately to the same content to mark-up the content specifically for the target media/medium. I think Adobe's PGML is wonderful, but although it represents vector drawing commands and attributes using XML syntax it does not separate content from markup. I'm sure Adobe looked at this for PDF/PGML pplications, and an SGML/DSSSL approach probably was not practical. The purpose of PDF/PGML is to provide high-fidelity, cross-platform 'WYSIWYG' display and print output from applications, so the content is effectively part of the presentation. In addition, the application generating the PDF file is typically separate from the applicatoion creating the output, so the context of the content is lost anyway. My only reason for pointing all this out is there seems to be some misunderstanding of the merits of separating content from representation. Microsoft has a good dissertation on this at http://www.microsoft.com/xml/ . Eric Solberg Synapsis, LLC +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 19:21:53-GMT,3146;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02430 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:21:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27968; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:58:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:55:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27749; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:55:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3544D4E8.3CEF@pre-print.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:56:49 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PGML possibilties References: <01bd726d$96eae4a0$0b45e326@r-d.synapsis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Eric Solberg wrote: > > > My only reason for pointing all this out is there seems to be some > misunderstanding of the merits of separating content from representation. > Microsoft has a good dissertation on this at http://www.microsoft.com/xml/ . Separating content and representation makes sense; it allows the creation of more database "hooks", which makes it much easier to keeps websites updated, and creates the potential for dispensing with things like CGI, which require too much dependency on a stellar relationship with your ISP manager (if the ISP manager is even capable of using CGI). > I think Adobe's PGML is wonderful, but although it represents vector drawing > commands and attributes using XML syntax it does not separate content from > markup. I'm sure Adobe looked at this for PDF/PGML pplications, and an > SGML/DSSSL approach probably was not practical. The purpose of PDF/PGML is > to provide high-fidelity, cross-platform 'WYSIWYG' display and print output > from applications, so the content is effectively part of the presentation. > In addition, the application generating the PDF file is typically separate > from the applicatoion creating the output, so the context of the content is > lost anyway. Are you suggesting that we cannot set up an XML site using PGML content? If so, then the PGML standard, while fabulous at first glance, is not going to fit in well with the whole content/represenation paradigm. I had been under the impression that PGML, like HTML, would be accessible within the XML structure. ------------------------------------------------------- Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 19:23:25-GMT,2537;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02453 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:23:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28830; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:15:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:11:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28594; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:11:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:15:25 -0400 From: Pelletier Hank Subject: Re: [PDF] PGML Possibilities To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-MS 3.0.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; Name="Message Body" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA28591 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Regarding the issue of graphic representation on the web and the promise of PGML: My interest in PDF and its development emanates solely from its potential to deliver highly detailed technical documentation over the WEB in real-time. Those of us in DoD tech doc have been looking for this solution for a long time. The SGML DoD CALS DTDs always separated graphic objects as external entities. "Illustrations" were parts of the structured document instance only in so far as the local display building engine could render them. This led to considerable variety in how fonts were rendered, but the basic functionality and intelligibility of pictorial figures were always supported. GIF and JPEG are very poor substitutes for scalable vector data. Most of our own web-based documents make calls to the Acrobat plugin expected to be present supporting the browser to open a navigable, scalable, high-resolution 11" x 17" rendering of our technical illustrations. If PGML has the potential of further integrating this method of handling graphic objects in the data delivery system, that will be a welcome addition. Hank Pelletier GTE Corp. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 20:07:03-GMT,3691;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03387 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:07:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA30779; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:49:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:44:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30506; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:44:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3544E07A.3009@pre-print.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:46:14 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PGML Possibilities References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Hank Pelletier wrote: > > My interest in PDF and its development emanates solely from its potential to deliver highly detailed technical documentation over the WEB in real-time. Those of us in DoD tech doc have been looking for this solution for a long time. > The applications range from detailed geographical maps through workflow diagrams and many other areas. This may change the nature of web content considerably. > The SGML DoD CALS DTDs always separated graphic objects as external entities. "Illustrations" were parts of the structured document instance only in so far as the local display building engine could render them. This led to considerable variety in how fonts were rendered, but the basic functionality and intelligibility of pictorial figures were always supported. > Now, fonts may still be a problem. PDF does a fabulous job of representing font shapes and metrics in a very compact manner, but it remains to be seen how portable that information is in a web environment. As a dinosaur in the DTP world and a sometime-redrawer of typefaces, I can tell you that the vector information per square inch in fonts is higher than just about any kind of graphical information. > GIF and JPEG are very poor substitutes for scalable vector data. Most of our own web-based documents make calls to the Acrobat plugin expected to be present supporting the browser to open a navigable, scalable, high-resolution 11" x 17" rendering of our technical illustrations. > And if any sharp marketing administrator ever suggested a really high-res 11x17 JPEG, they deserved all of the technical apoplexy they got. > If PGML has the potential of further integrating this method of handling graphic objects in the data delivery system, that will be a welcome addition. Frankly, a useable browser (or plug-in for an existing browser) for PGML would be really welcome right now; I don't think I'm the only one who's chomping at the bit to play with the proposed standards, but who isn't enough of a wizard to actually build that browser/plug-in. Most respectfully, Gunnar Bldogett ------------------------------------------------------- Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 20:07:26-GMT,3197;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03400 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:07:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA31452; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:59:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:56:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31202; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:55:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3544E312.39C@pre-print.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:57:18 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] New fonts for GhostScript References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Apologies. It's hard to tell anymore what's acceptable until someone tells me. Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett L. Peter Deutsch wrote: > > > I'm not sure this is the right forum for these questions, but since we're > > wending afield into PGML, I hope that GhostScript questions are permissible. > > Please don't post general Ghostscript questions here. If your questions are > about GNU Ghostscript, please post them to gnu.ghostscript.bug; if they are > about Aladdin Ghostscript, please post them to comp.lang.postscript. > > I've gone on the assumption that general questions or discussion about > Ghostscript's PDF-related capabilities (other than specific "tech support" > kinds of questions) are OK here, just like similar discussions about Acrobat > products or other PDF-related software, but that's up to the list hosts, and > if I go out of line, I hope they'll let me know. > > -- > > L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com > 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 > Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html > * Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your e-mail and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net * > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- You can be be miserably correct, or you can stop doing Windows. ------------------------------------------------------- Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 20:43:10-GMT,1907;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04244 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:43:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA32598; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:23:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:19:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32334; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:19:26 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Possible trade-offs authoring with forms... Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:18:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All - We're considering turning a FrameMaker form (table based) into a PDF Form (I may not be saying that right...) so that a person who does not have a FrameMaker license can fill in the forms and save them (using an Exchange license). This sounds good, as it gets her up and running without a lot of pain and learning curve. But with the original documents in forms, instead of the native FM tables, would we be trading off some other functionality down the road that we're not thinking of? I assume we could take the form back to viewable/searchable PDF, yes?? thx - Rebecca +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 23:08:11-GMT,2129;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07486 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:08:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA06145; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:41:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:35:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05854; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:35:40 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: H.W.A.Krafft@ub.rug.nl cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565F3.007AF799.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:35:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] embedded fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Henri: I think you must be referring to the 'Job Option settings' in Acrobat Distiller. (from the Distiller menu) It is probably a good idea to set "Embed All Fonts" if it is important to be able to use the files anywhere. (Checkmark the box) Then it should display properly on a machine which does not have those fonts installed. Rick Bishop PRP Media, Houston >>>>>.....YOU wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>. I'm working >>snip>> I had to convert in PDF by means of Acrobat Destiller 3.01 and Acrobat Exchange and finally put it down in the Internet. In order to preserve these pdf. documents for the future, I had received some information to make "embedded fonts" of it in Acrobat Distiller before conversion, and this is my queustion to you all, who maybe have some experiences how to do it namely: a description how to make embedded fonts in Acrobat. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 23:08:11-GMT,3569;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07488 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:08:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA06732; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:53:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:51:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06559; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:51:18 -0500 Message-ID: <35450BEA.FCE26B57@denovolit.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:51:22 -0700 From: michaeln@denovolit.com (Michael Nevarez) Organization: De Novo Litigation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F2F8EA5CFDF2C00CEA506C2D" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F2F8EA5CFDF2C00CEA506C2D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excuse me for butting in, but could you tell me who is scanning the documents for the tobacco litigation. Thanks in advance. Jim Morgan, CIC-1 wrote: > Mark, > > The Department of Energy is making all of its (unclassified) technical > reports available via the Web in PDF format. Also, an Acrobat > representative made an interesting observation in a recent meeting. The > reason state attorneys general are able to come up with useful information > quickly from the thousands of documents released by the tobacco compaines > is Acrobat: the documents are scanned in and converted to PDF so they can > be searched electronically. > > Jim > > >Mark Rickan wrote: > > > >> Anyone have a list of firms that have sanctioned the use of PDF? > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > Jim Morgan > CIC-1 Central Ops. Project Leader > Phone: (505) 665-8781 > Pager: 104-8570 > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------F2F8EA5CFDF2C00CEA506C2D Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Nevarez, Michael R. Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Michael R. Nevarez n: Nevarez;Michael R. org: De Novo Litigation Support Services, Inc. adr: P.O. Box 281678;;;San Francisco;CA;94128-1678;U.S.A. email;internet: michaeln@denovolit.com title: Vice President of Operations, Secretary and General Counsel tel;work: (650) 692-9214 tel;fax: (650) 692-9216 tel;home: N/A note: >Expert Technical Support and Imaging Services< x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------F2F8EA5CFDF2C00CEA506C2D-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Apr-1998 23:50:04-GMT,1746;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08420 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:50:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA08377; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:33:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:31:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08233; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:30:59 -0500 X-Sender: laufer@139.82.16.3 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:09:08 -0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Laufer Subject: [PDF] Converter to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hi, My name is Laufer and I'm a researcher at LES (Software Engeneering Lab) at PUC-Rio, Brazil. We here have a distance learning project called AulaNet. AulaNet is a tool to develop courses in the web and it has a document repository. We are lookimg for a script (windows NT) to convert files from DOC to PDF, from PS to PDF or from RTF to PDF. What we want is a command line program that receives, for example, a doc file as an input and produce an output file in pdf format. Can anybody help me? thank you, laufer +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 1:36:10-GMT,3044;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10311 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:36:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12346; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:12:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:08:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12176; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:08:39 -0500 From: "Eric Solberg" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PGML possibilties Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 06:12:53 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd72a7$5a54be50$0b45e326@r-d.synapsis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Are you suggesting that we cannot set up an XML site using PGML content? >If so, then the PGML standard, while fabulous at first glance, is not >going to fit in well with the whole content/represenation paradigm. I >had been under the impression that PGML, like HTML, would be accessible >within the XML structure. First of all a warning: I am going off what I believe to be true after only a brief overview of PGML. It seems to me that PGML uses XML syntax to represent PDF/PostScript drawing commands. For example, the postscript command 0.5 1.0 moveto Might be something like: (this is completely contrived and I have no idea if it is at all representative of PGML syntax) Lets say your data includes a birthdate. Using XML and XSL it would be possible to have the date identified in the data stream as a birthdate. This would allow the program that views/stores this information to do any processing that is necessary with this data. For viewing the data, the XSL style sheet would instruct the browser how to display the data. Using PGML, the date is nowhere identified as a birthdate but is just a string of text. The text is searchable, much better than non-searchable graphic formats, but all context (the fact that it is a birthdate, or even a date) is lost. On the other hand, if PGML allowed for application-defined tags for identifying/classifying content structure, and even had a way for preserving document structure, then it would be a truly revolutionary technology. If I'm wrong on any of the points I've made I'd love to be corrected (you'll save me some research)!. Eric Solberg Synapsis, LLC +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 1:56:27-GMT,2628;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10683 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:56:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA13904; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:49:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:47:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13744; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:47:06 -0500 From: "Eric Solberg" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PGML possibilties Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 06:51:32 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd72ac$c0893200$0b45e326@r-d.synapsis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Are you suggesting that we cannot set up an XML site using PGML content? >If so, then the PGML standard, while fabulous at first glance, is not >going to fit in well with the whole content/represenation paradigm. I >had been under the impression that PGML, like HTML, would be accessible >within the XML structure. I thought about this question a little more and thought I'd add to my previous statements. I'm sure a number of database publishing solutions will instantly popup that can create rich PGML documents on-the-fly from database content. However, the structure of the data will not be preserved in PGML. Someone likened PGML to being like a new kind of display postscript. I agree with this analysis. PGML seems to remove many of the constraints that make PDF diffiucult for dynamic content, while reducing the complexity of (and adding structure to) raw postscript. Browsers will still need a plugin to display PGML, or will have to be rewritten to support it natively. To Adobe's benefit, this will most likely come from them, or be licensed from them. And, of course there will be some key capabilities, like saving data, that are available only in a version that you have to pay for... Eric Solberg Synapsis, LLC +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 3:16:20-GMT,2363;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA12023 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:16:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA17177; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:02:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:56:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16686; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:56:37 -0500 From: "Eric Solberg" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PGML possibilties Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:00:52 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd7251$dafe2c90$0b45e326@r-d.synapsis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I thought about this question a little more and thought I'd add to my >previous statements. I'm sure a number of database publishing solutions >will instantly popup that can create rich PGML documents on-the-fly from >database content. However, the structure of the data will not be preserved >in PGML. Another update to my previous post. This is from Adobe's submission to the W3C: ************************ The following features would greatly benefit end users and thus should be considered for inclusion in PGML: ... *Ability for applications to store private data within the PGML to enable PGML authoring applications to write then read PGML files without loss of high-level application data. ... ************************ If this is implemented as XML within the PGML document then this would address the deficiency I had noted. The resulting document could also achieve numerous benefits over a stricter content/markup separation. Eric Solberg Synapsis, LLC +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 3:54:09-GMT,2937;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA12684 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:54:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA19311; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:41:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:37:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18957; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:37:08 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:37:24 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] Emerge PDFzone *EXTRA* v. 03, n.12 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 =================================================== V.03, N.012 ***Emerge EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra42498.html ==================================================== The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + News from Cuba Now Available in Monthly PDF (Subscription) * Miami Herald Publishing Company offers free sample download + Updated: PDF Printer Driver Plug-in 8.5.1 (for Mac) * Makes Distiller-processed PDFs a 'choosable' option + U. 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Past issues are available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Subscribe to the email version at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html rgds~Kurt ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 8:06:54-GMT,2805;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07007 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 02:06:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA27845; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 02:47:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 02:43:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27693; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 02:43:36 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD7282.17907520.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Converter to PDF Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:40:59 +0100 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Laufer Our Local Render product does exactly this. An evaluation copy is now available for download from our web site. www.docctrl.com/localr.html Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Laufer [SMTP:laufer@inf.puc-rio.br] Sent: 28 April 1998 00:09 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Converter to PDF hi, My name is Laufer and I'm a researcher at LES (Software Engeneering Lab) at PUC-Rio, Brazil. We here have a distance learning project called AulaNet. AulaNet is a tool to develop courses in the web and it has a document repository. We are lookimg for a script (windows NT) to convert files from DOC to PDF, from PS to PDF or from RTF to PDF. What we want is a command line program that receives, for example, a doc file as an input and produce an output file in pdf format. Can anybody help me? thank you, laufer +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 9:22:55-GMT,2578;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08768 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 03:22:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA30573; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 04:08:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 04:04:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA30425; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 04:04:42 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:24:05 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Any way to extract thumbnails? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In message , Larry Groebe wrote: >Which means (unless there's a brialliant idea I haven't though of yet) >that we need thumbnail part of the PDF converted to a GIF or a JPG. I wrote a tool to extract thumbnails in batch from PDFs on a Unix system. These are output to GIF or PPM (portable pixmap) formats. This was an experimental project to see what we would get and, as expected, the images are very poor and not really worth putting on a web page. They look `as good' as they do in Acrobat if viewed at normal size, but if you zoom in you just see a jaggy bitmap. As Aandi Inston said, if you really want to do this you are probably better getting higher resolution screen shots. Perhaps this could be automated using an Acrobat plug-in. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 11:13:53-GMT,1983;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10956 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 05:13:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA01332; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 05:59:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 05:53:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01121; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 05:53:42 -0500 From: Munier M-Louise Message-Id: <199804281045.MAA25486@mailhost.edpsciences.com> Subject: [PDF] Underlined links To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:45:06 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Bonjour, Could anyone say me how to underlined and colorized links in PDF. Which parameters do I have to change in PS file, Border, color etc... Thanks in advance -- +--------------------------------------------------------+ Marie-Louise MUNIER EDP Sciences 7 Avenue de Hoggar Parc d'activites de Courtaboeuf 91944 Les Ulis Cedex A / France +--------------------------------------------------------+ http://www.edpsciences.com e-mail: munier@edpsciences.com Phone: +33 (0)1 69 18 75 75 Fax: +33 (0)1 69 28 84 91 +--------------------------------------------------------+ Celui qui sait douter doute de ce dont personne ne doute. Y. Zh. Fang +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 13:32:34-GMT,1829;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14164 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 07:32:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06809; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:14:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:10:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06567; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:09:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Underlined links Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:05:09 +0100 Message-ID: <001601bd72a6$c3ad6420$61f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199804281045.MAA25486@mailhost.edpsciences.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Could anyone say me how to underlined and colorized links in PDF. > Which parameters do I have to change in PS file, Border, color > etc... There is no option to recolour the text making up links if that is what you are looking for. You must colour the text in your original application. This is on my list of "plug-ins to write one day". Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 13:38:12-GMT,4377;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14326 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 07:38:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07557; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:30:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:26:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07319; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:26:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3545DB16.804C912B@lsijax.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:35:18 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pmathews@computerstream.co.uk Subject: Re: Antwort: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <5276.893695739@isode.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For all who've responded - thank you. However, the saga continues. Ever font listed (Doc Info) in the pdf created are 'Type 1' fonts and 'Embedded Subset'. The main fonts shown are 'PSOsymclas' , 'PSOwstdutch', and 'PSOwstswiss'. I say main fonts since there are also the bold and italic versions of the last two. There are no other fonts listed....I'm assuming that the 'Thames' font in Interleaf is the 'dutch' font in the postscript file. If I have some bitmap fonts in the postscript file, I don't know how to recognize them or change them (any clues?). Since I'm trying to maintain the 'page boundaries' of the document, I don't want to change the Interleaf file (the printed copies have already been released). As before, my text is not searchable. Can I change the postscript file to use better fonts? I haven't found where to change the fonts selected with the printer I use on the Unix - any Unix users that have done this? I'm using a HP 5M color laserjet printer to generate the postscript. I've also tried the Interleaf 'pl2ps' program but it seems to have the same blind area as Interleaf. Again, thanks for all the help Tracie DeVoe +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Ridd wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:06:36 EDT, "Tracie K. DeVoe" wrote: > > > > It's a completely unreadable mess....We've tried 'embedding > all > > fonts' and 'subsetting fonts' at 100% or 99% or 1% and even > > taking off 'embedding'. Nothing seems to work. I can find > the > > 'swiss' font in the postscript file so that may not be the > > problem. I think it's 'Thames' that's causing the trouble > since > > I don't see it in the postscript file - just a font 'dutch'. > Yet > > when I looked at the pdf file produced (when using 'embed all > > > fonts' ) it showed that all fonts were embedded - we received > no > > errors - just unrecognizable text as far as > searching/bookmarks/ > > etc.. If I knew how to read the postscript file better, I > would > > substitute out the problem font. If you have any clues for > me, > > I'd appreciate it!! > > > > Thanks, > > Tracie DeVoe > > If the font is being written into the PS file as a Type 3 font, > this > might be why Distiller is making a pig's ear of things (A Type > 3 font > is *often* nothing more than a bitmap font.) Does your > Interleaf > printer driver have the option to embed the fonts using > different > formats at all? > > Chris > > +---- > -------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 14:27:43-GMT,1637;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15883 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:27:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA09963; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:14:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:09:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09706; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:09:51 -0500 Message-ID: <41B72D0BD2EFCF11946500805F224AF6010BCD1F@exch-cin1.cin.attachmate.com> From: Theresa Marchwinski To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] File does not begin with '%PDF-' Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 07:13:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just got this error message while trying to open a pdf file with Reader 3.0 and Exchange 3.01. Any idea what is happening? Here is the full text of the message: There was an error opening this document. File does not begin with '%PDF-'. Thanks!!! Theresa Marchwinski Attachmate Corporation mailto:theresma@attachmate.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 14:31:31-GMT,3023;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15993 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:31:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA10074; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:15:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:11:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09800; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:11:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Any way to extract thumbnails? My solution Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:11:20 -0500 x-sender: lgroebe@mail.insidermarketing.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: "Larry Groebe" To: , "David R Evans" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: <19980428090626.083dea29.in@insidermarketing.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >In message , Larry Groebe > wrote: >>Which means (unless there's a brialliant idea I haven't though of yet) >>that we need thumbnail part of the PDF converted to a GIF or a JPG. >I wrote a tool to extract thumbnails in batch from PDFs on a Unix >system. These are output to GIF or PPM (portable pixmap) formats. > >This was an experimental project to see what we would get and, as >expected, the images are very poor and not really worth putting on a web >page. They look `as good' as they do in Acrobat if viewed at normal >size, but if you zoom in you just see a jaggy bitmap. > >As Aandi Inston said, if you really want to do this you are probably >better getting higher resolution screen shots. Perhaps this could be >automated using an Acrobat plug-in. After various good tidbits of advice from this gourp, I settled on the program "Ghostscript." (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html) It's a fine little piece of software - can convert from EPS to PDF and back, can view PS and PDFs on-screen at any resolution, can save files as TIFFs and JPGS and other formats, and the whole thing can be operated from a command line. The Mac version even includes a command line which is Applescriptable, which pretty much solved all my problems. I can drop a PDF onto this Applescript and have it launch Ghostscript to create a JPG at whatever preset degree of detail I need. It works well, and our website now has little picture previews of the files the clients are about to see. Thanks to all who helped. --Larry Groebe Insider Creative/Insider Marketing +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 14:46:38-GMT,1633;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16431 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:46:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA10895; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:31:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:27:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10709; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:27:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199804281427.JAA10705@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] File does not begin with '%PDF-' Date: Tue, 28 Apr 98 16:27:20 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I just got this error message while trying to open a pdf file with >Reader 3.0 and Exchange 3.01. Any idea what is happening? Here is the >full text of the message: Isn't it really beginning with '%PDF-'? Check the contents with a text or binary file editor, and if the file doesn't contain this header, maybe it was damaged or it isn't a PDF file. Andrea +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 14:50:34-GMT,2151;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16530 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:50:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11530; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:42:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:38:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11306; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:38:27 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] File does not begin with '%PDF-' Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:33:16 +0100 Message-ID: <001701bd72b3$1d433c60$61f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <41B72D0BD2EFCF11946500805F224AF6010BCD1F@exch-cin1.cin.attachmate.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The message means the file is not a PDF file. It may be something completely different; or require uncompressing or unzipping; or be sent using e-mail settings not compatible with your program. If you can't figure it out, open the file and look at the first couple of lines. Reply to the list with them (DO NOT ATTACH THEM) and someone can perhaps identify the format. Aandi > I just got this error message while trying to open a pdf file with > Reader 3.0 and Exchange 3.01. Any idea what is happening? Here is the > full text of the message: > > There was an error opening this document. File does not begin with > '%PDF-'. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 14:50:41-GMT,1555;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16543 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:50:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11531; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:42:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:38:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11334; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:38:35 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:42:42 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: [PDF] RE: File does not begin with '%PDF-' Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Theresa, Was the PDF received as an email attachment? If so, some ISPs strip the first line of code from the PDF file. Ask to receive the PDF email attachment from a MIME compliant email program (Netscape mail will do), or as a last ditch effort, have the sender ZIP the PDF. Cheers Murray +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 15:05:11-GMT,2369;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16989 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:05:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11913; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:48:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:44:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11687; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:44:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3545EB38.2A98F509@glyphica.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 07:44:08 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Underlined links References: <001601bd72a6$c3ad6420$61f582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You can change the color of text in the PDF file using the Touch Up Text tool. Select the text, then Text Attributes from the Edit menu. Change to the color you like. Obviously, this is a one-at-a-time fix ... but if you didn't author the original document, it may be all that you have. The underline is a bit harder to come by -- the button tool can be used to fake one, or you could get a plug-in like PitStop. Deidre ......................................... Glyphica Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com ......................................... Aandi Inston wrote: > > Could anyone say me how to underlined and colorized links in PDF. > > Which parameters do I have to change in PS file, Border, color > > etc... > > There is no option to recolour the text making up links if that is > what you are looking for. You must colour the text in your original > application. This is on my list of "plug-ins to write one day". > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 16:35:58-GMT,2318;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21208 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:35:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA16693; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:14:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:08:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16380; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:08:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199804281607.MAA26869@Argon.Mlink.NET> Subject: [PDF] Protecting PDF Files... Date: Tue, 28 Apr 98 12:08:38 -0400 x-sender: kevoy@pop.mlink.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Ken Evoy To: "Adobe Acrobat PDF" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello to all, I have just discovered the Emerge Web site. What a phenomenal resource! Amazing how the Web just keeps popping the old eyeballs open. We are publishing a book in pdf format. We will distribute this book via the Web. We want to password-protect each copy, using the purchaser's name as the password. We don't want to do any of this manually. Does anyone know of any product similar to this, besides Ambia's insanely priced "Signet" -- for $5,000, I could hire programmers to do it. :-( Actually, that gives me an idea ... I'll try the Developer's List, too. But, if anyone knows of an off-the-shelf product to do this, please let me know. Thank you and all the best, Ken Evoy, M.D. ----------------------------------------------------------- GoodBytes Information Products Inc. http://www.goodbytes.com/ kevoy@goodbytes.com voice:514-458-1064 fax:514-458-1068 "InfoTools -- the closest thing yet to cloning success." ----------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 16:38:57-GMT,2326;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21267 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:38:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA17047; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:21:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:17:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16839; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:17:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Moore, James (Guardall)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Postcript pinted Bitmaps vs. Non-postcript Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:58:34 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Help?? Having difficulties when generating PDF for printing of end user manuals. We are currently archiving all of our manuals from Word 97 into PDF format. The documents all contain bitmap screen captures of software screens captured (97 dpi) using HiJaak 800 X 600 (256 colours). They are then linked into word and scaled as required. When printing from Word directly to a postcript printer they print fine. When we print to file (using Acrobat Ditiller as the printer driver) and then distill to PDF they print fine on a postcript printer but print "chunky" and poorly to a non-postcript printer. Note: This problem of a non-postcript printer occurs even when generating PDF from PageMaker 6.5. Can anyone indicate the most effecient and best method of generating PDF documents that have embedded screen captures? And what is the best method of capturing screens that are to be PDFed and printed on postcript and non-postcript printers? Reagrds James Moore Communications Manager Guardall North America jmoore@guardall.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 17:34:56-GMT,1638;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23323 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:34:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20312; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:18:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:14:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20027; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:14:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: webweavr@shell11.ba.best.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:09:40 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Chris Beaumont Subject: [PDF] Best way to go PDF>Text or PDF>HTML? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The header says it. What is the best way to convert PDF documents to ASCII, or better, -HTML- -quickly? The only way I can see (since "copy" from _multi-column_ PDF seems very dysfunctional and therefore prohibitively time consuming..) is to create PICT screenshots of the PDF's and then OCR them! There must be a better way... Thank you! Chris Beaumont chris@ncafe.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 17:46:43-GMT,3119;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23666 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:46:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20865; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:29:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:26:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20688; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:25:59 -0500 From: rob_hakanson@mentorg.com (Rob Hakanson) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:25:52 -0700 Message-Id: <9804281025.ZM2549@mandolin> In-Reply-To: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com (pdf-digest) "pdf-digest for April-25-98 [V2 #203]" (Apr 25, 1:29am) References: <199804250629.BAA07675@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How to make whole page display Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Because with fit window, the display size of my documents are at the mercy of whatever size window opens in the Acrobat session. Why can't Adobe let me set the magnification and then make the window fit the intial page? Why must I first hide both the menu and tool bars in order to truly see the whole page? > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:04:08 -0700 > From: Scott Hamlow > Subject: Re: [PDF] How to make whole page display > > Maybe I'm missing something here, but why not set magnification as fit to > page and set fit window to initial page? I know you can do this with > pdfmarks, becuause that's how I do everything. > > At 02:34 PM 4/23/98 -0700, you wrote: > > > >I'm creating PDF files from FrameMaker, and I find that I can't get the whole > >page to display by default. I have magnification set to 100%, and I've > >selected "Fit window to initial page" in Exchange. However, I never see the > >whole page. Rather, the window is sized so that the bottom of the page is > not > >visible without scrolling. > > > >The only way that I can see the whole page is to hide both the menu and tool > >bars. Then the page fits perfectly. I want to be able to keep the menu and > >tool bars, but have the window size so that I can see my whole page without > >adjusting the border by hand. Is there an Exchange session preference, > >document info setting, or preferably, pdfmark code that I can embed in the > >PostScript prior to distillation to fix my problem? I'd really prefer to > solve > >this with pdfmark code, if possible. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Rob Hakanson > >Mentor Graphics > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 17:47:14-GMT,2261;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23719 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:47:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA21004; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:31:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:28:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20805; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:28:06 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565F4.005F8C31.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:25:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Best way to go PDF>Text or PDF>HTML? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Chris: Do you have Capture 2.0? Although I've never used this feature, it will convert PDF to HTML. SueG Chris Beaumont on 04/28/98 10:09:40 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Best way to go PDF>Text or PDF>HTML? The header says it. What is the best way to convert PDF documents to ASCII, or better, -HTML- -quickly? The only way I can see (since "copy" from _multi-column_ PDF seems very dysfunctional and therefore prohibitively time consuming..) is to create PICT screenshots of the PDF's and then OCR them! There must be a better way... Thank you! Chris Beaumont chris@ncafe.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 18:11:21-GMT,4826;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24464 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:11:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA21836; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:49:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:45:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21659; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:45:15 -0500 Message-Id: <9804281712.AA25288@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] embedded fonts Date: Tue, 28 Apr 98 13:17:18 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >a description how to >make embedded fonts in Acrobat. Make sure to select "All" in any page setup or print dialog box when either printing to disk or saving as eps from the application. In Adobe Distiller, go under the Distiller menu and select the Job options menu, which presents the Job Options set of dialog boxes - then, select the Font Embedding tab. In the Font Embedding tab, specify which fonts you want included in the PDF file to prevent font substitution at print time. Distiller never embeds the Base 13 fonts (the Helvetica, Times, Courier, and Symbol font families) because these fonts are included in all PostScript devices. Select the Embed All Fonts so that Distiller includes all fonts used in the document in the PDF file. the following is recommended if you are using PDF as a transfer technology for prepress and printing: Select the Subset Fonts Below option and specify 99%. When you select this option, Distiller includes only the characters used in the document for each typeface, and it renames the subset fonts in the PDF file to prevent an available font with the same name from being used at print time. This makes the document extremely reliable. While including subset fonts in a PDF file decreases file size and print times, it will prevent late-stage editing using Acrobat Exchange's touch-up tool. It is important to understand that even though you may have a copy of a font with the same name as the place that you are sending, there is no way to insist your embedded version is used on the other system that is opening it when the reciever has that font open - Echange will simply use the font on the system that is open - only if you rename the font to a unique name will Exchange deliver the font to that other persons system - and this can only be accomplished if either : 1. The reciever system has no fonts open 2. The font has a unique name, then and only then will the font embedded to pulled from the PDF document and loaded into ATM and displayed - otherwise, the font that is loaded wil be used. This is especially problematic if people edit glyphs in fonts without re-naming the font, or if people have old versions of a font. If you have the original font that was subsetted, and you are needing to edit the type that uses this subsetted font - a work around for this is to use Acrobat Exchange, and go under the Tools menu and select the Select Type tool, select the type that you want to edit, and under the Edit menu and select Text Attributes, and change the font from the Embedded Font to the Font you have loaded on your system, make the change and then save. It is important to note that although this will successfully solve your problem, if you are sending this file to another machine or location, this PDF file now requires the other machine or site to have that font installed and loaded.

I might suggest that we have experience problems when paginating and doing rotations on PDF files when the PDF files contains truetype fonts - the fonts sometimes fail to rotate with the page. Somrthing about the registry needing to be fiddled with - outa my league on this, but it is a repeatable problem, and it goes away when we use a Type 1 version instead of a truetype version of the same font. hope this helps. Please reply to mikejahn@jahn.com Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa-Gevaert N.V. 200 Ballardvale St. MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P: 978.658.0200 ext 5504 I: www.jahn.org Cell Phone: 617.605.5716 F: 508.658.8982 (but don't send me a FAX -send a PDF file!) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 18:25:47-GMT,2130;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24989 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:25:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22911; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:11:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:08:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22663; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:08:00 -0500 Date: 28 Apr 98 11:07:56 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Best way to go PDF>Text or PDF>HTML? From: "Frank Midgley" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tue, Apr 28, 1998 9:25 AM, sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: >The header says it. >What is the best way to convert PDF documents to ASCII, or better, -HTML- >-quickly? >The only way I can see (since "copy" from _multi-column_ PDF seems very >dysfunctional and therefore prohibitively time consuming..) is to create >PICT screenshots of the PDF's and then OCR them! > > There must be a better way... Since it sounds like you are on a Mac, you might try using Terry Morse's Myrmidion product. It's a print driver that converts any print job (from any application) into HTML. So you could just open the PDF in Reader or Exchange and then print it to an HTML file. You can download a free demo from . The price is only US$69 ($39 educational), so that shouldn't be much of a stumbling block. -Frank +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 19:49:50-GMT,1752;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27843 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:49:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26462; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:30:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:25:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26229; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:25:33 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <882565F4.006936B3.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:23:24 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have several documents that will have links to a document called REFERENCES. From the REFERENCES document there will be bookmarks to several individual reference documents. From the individual reference douments I need a way to get the viewer back to the REFERENCES document. And then from the REFERENCES document back to the document they were in before that! Of course, the arrow toolbar button will work - but we'd like to make these files as easy as possible for our viewers to us. Any other suggestions? SueG +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 20:37:30-GMT,2061;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29558 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:37:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA29026; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:20:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:14:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28646; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:14:54 -0500 Message-ID: <35463928.119@i2000.es> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:16:40 +0200 From: Alvaro de la Hera Martinez Organization: Interlinea 2000 S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] I can not create forms with Adobe 3.01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I have update my version of Adobe acrobat 3.0 to Adobe Acrobat 3.01 to use the PDF forms with the new plug-ins. I have installed the Adobe Acrobat and the plugs-ins without troubles. However, I can not have the option in the Tools menu to create form fieds. Is there this option in onother menu or I have the Adobe Acrobat not installed properly. Thanks in advanced. -- A H | A H | Interlinea 2000, S.A. AAAAHHHHMMMM | Kaskotegi 4, bajo A A M M | 20.305 Irun (Spain) AAAA M | Telephone: 34-43-619101 | Fax: 34-43-618159 Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 21:17:05-GMT,2765;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00814 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:17:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA31064; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:57:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:51:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30728; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:51:16 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD72F0.21B88420.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:12:58 +0100 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A Back button (a la Browser) which does an "execute menu item" [go back]? drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: sgililland@nexstar.com [SMTP:sgililland@nexstar.com] Sent: 28 April 1998 20:23 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links I have several documents that will have links to a document called REFERENCES. From the REFERENCES document there will be bookmarks to several individual reference documents. From the individual reference douments I need a way to get the viewer back to the REFERENCES document. And then from the REFERENCES document back to the document they were in before that! Of course, the arrow toolbar button will work - but we'd like to make these files as easy as possible for our viewers to us. Any other suggestions? SueG +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 21:21:49-GMT,1741;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00990 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:21:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA31898; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:12:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:07:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31616; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:06:58 -0500 Message-ID: <35464597.6926@vegasnet.net> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:09:43 -0700 From: David Pancoast X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Best way to go PDF>Text or PDF>HTML? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > What is the best way to convert PDF documents to ASCII, or better, -HTML->> If you have Capture, I suggest editing the .ACD and then SaveAs .HTML. This is vastly better than scanning directly to .HTML, in my opinion. If you do not have Capture, Ambia makes a plug-in called Aerial. It is inexpensive and has an excellent .PDF to .RTF (Windows Write) converter. Good luck, David Pancoast Las Vegas, NV +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 21:28:45-GMT,1757;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01282 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:28:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA32243; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:18:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:13:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31977; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:13:34 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565F4.00745A63.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:11:31 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have several documents that will have links to a document called REFERENCES. From the REFERENCES document there will be bookmarks to several individual reference documents. From the individual reference douments I need a way to get the viewer back to the REFERENCES document. And then from the REFERENCES document back to the document they were in before that! Of course, the arrow toolbar button will work - but we'd like to make these files as easy as possible for our viewers to us. Any other suggestions? SueG +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 21:35:25-GMT,3408;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01536 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:35:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA32467; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:22:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:17:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA32171; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:17:52 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565F4.0074AC46.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:15:49 -0700 Subject: RE: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yep, that works. - We had considered that, but during our initial test - it appeared that the execute {go back} command only worked within the open document. On a second try - it worked! Thanks for the assist! SueG David Cornwell on 04/28/98 01:12:58 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: RE: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links A Back button (a la Browser) which does an "execute menu item" [go back]? drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: sgililland@nexstar.com [SMTP:sgililland@nexstar.com] Sent: 28 April 1998 20:23 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links I have several documents that will have links to a document called REFERENCES. From the REFERENCES document there will be bookmarks to several individual reference documents. From the individual reference douments I need a way to get the viewer back to the REFERENCES document. And then from the REFERENCES document back to the document they were in before that! Of course, the arrow toolbar button will work - but we'd like to make these files as easy as possible for our viewers to us. Any other suggestions? SueG +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 22:10:37-GMT,4427;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02810 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:10:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA01409; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:55:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:50:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01072; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:50:21 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD72F8.627A9AE0.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:52:24 +0100 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Be warned that this will not work from a Browser environment - I think !?! :-? drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: sgililland@nexstar.com [SMTP:sgililland@nexstar.com] Sent: 28 April 1998 22:16 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links Yep, that works. - We had considered that, but during our initial test - it appeared that the execute {go back} command only worked within the open document. On a second try - it worked! Thanks for the assist! SueG David Cornwell on 04/28/98 01:12:58 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: RE: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links A Back button (a la Browser) which does an "execute menu item" [go back]? drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: sgililland@nexstar.com [SMTP:sgililland@nexstar.com] Sent: 28 April 1998 20:23 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links I have several documents that will have links to a document called REFERENCES. From the REFERENCES document there will be bookmarks to several individual reference documents. From the individual reference douments I need a way to get the viewer back to the REFERENCES document. And then from the REFERENCES document back to the document they were in before that! Of course, the arrow toolbar button will work - but we'd like to make these files as easy as possible for our viewers to us. Any other suggestions? SueG +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 22:13:39-GMT,2086;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02950 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:13:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01708; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:01:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:55:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01392; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:55:27 -0500 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565F4.0047DA71.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:12:29 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Problem with a PDF and Netscape Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I encountered a strange problem with a PDF file and Netscape and wonder if anyone knows how to correct it. We loaded thousands of PDF files into a NetScape Enterprise server with Verity Search 97. When I selected this particular PDF file to view on a few PC's that has Acrobat Exchage 3.01, the first page of the PDF file might appear on the screen followed by an error saying that there is a problem with the PDF file. However, when I actually downloaded the PDF file on the hard drive and use Acrobat Exchange to open it, I was able to do it without a problem. I also tried to view the PDF file on a PC that has Acrobat Reader 3.0 and did not have any problem viewing the PDF file at all. At this point, I am not able to view this particular PDF file with Acrobat Exchange and Netscape at all. Any ideas? Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 23:27:21-GMT,1955;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05864 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:27:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA04676; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:12:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:06:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04453; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:05:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] I can not create forms with Adobe 3.01 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:54:42 +0100 Message-ID: <001001bd72fa$0f0331e0$56f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35463928.119@i2000.es> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > I have update my version of Adobe acrobat 3.0 to Adobe Acrobat 3.01 to > use the PDF forms with the new plug-ins. > > I have installed the Adobe Acrobat and the plugs-ins without troubles. > > However, I can not have the option in the Tools menu to create form > fieds. > > Is there this option in onother menu or I have the Adobe Acrobat not > installed properly. > You probably went too far and installed the form filler. Don't, you only need the form author. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Apr-1998 23:28:34-GMT,3192;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05913 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:28:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA04936; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:18:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:13:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04705; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:13:07 -0500 From: "Luke Michael Muszkiewicz" To: Subject: [PDF] Forms/Printing Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:17:42 -0600 Message-ID: <01bd72fb$d80a8dd0$516d729e@inet_1.hln.bdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I have created a PDF document with form fields. I want to allow the user to open the file, fill in the document, and perform a 'Save As' to another location. Currently, when I perform a 'Save As', I lose the form data. Is there anyway to save and preserve the form data? Thank you for your time, -luke muszkiewicz -----Original Message----- From: Allan Benamer To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thursday, April 23, 1998 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) > You can count us in. The California Court System at > http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov has all of its forms in PDF format as well > as its opinions. We're also interested in taking our Judicial Council > forms and turning them into fill-in forms. Any takers? > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) >Author: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com at Internet >Date: 4/23/98 12:22 PM > > > >In following recent exchanges concerning the size of the PDF user base, I >was wondering if a list of corporate/government adoptors has been compiled >anywhere. For clients who are evaluating the possibility of using PDF, I >find that the greatest emphasis is placed not on the technical specs of the >format, but who else is committed to using it. > >Anyone have a list of firms that have sanctioned the use of PDF? > >Mark > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 0:11:54-GMT,2557;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07382 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:11:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA06182; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:51:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:44:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05978; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:44:51 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <882565F4.006936B3.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 01:25:45 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links Cc: sgililland@nexstar.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sue, you could place a button on every page which does the GoBack Named Action. Depending on your access to the source material and its processing (PDFWriter or Distiller), you can create this button as EPS and place it. If you don't have access to the source files, you'd have to do it in Exchange. It seems that Exchange 3.01 no longer leads to the infamous file size bloat (you might have read about). Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ________________ >I have several documents that will have links to a document called >REFERENCES. From the REFERENCES document there will be bookmarks to >several individual reference documents. From the individual reference >douments I need a way to get the viewer back to the REFERENCES document. >And then from the REFERENCES document back to the document they were in >before that! Of course, the arrow toolbar button will work - but we'd >like to make these files as easy as possible for our viewers to us. > >Any other suggestions? > >SueG > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 1:51:45-GMT,1623;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10188 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:51:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA09909; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:32:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:26:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09670; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:26:53 -0500 From: "Will Beumer" To: Subject: [PDF] How to convert magazines to PDF Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 03:25:59 +0200 Message-ID: <01bd730d$c44ea760$0a01a8c0@wilmar1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For some CD-ROM publications we want to convert some 50 magazines to PDF. Can anyone tell what is the fastest way? How large (Kbytes) becomes a A4 fc page as PDF? How long wil it take to convert aprox. 500 FC pages? Will Beumer +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 2:09:37-GMT,1673;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10739 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:09:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA11061; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:57:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:52:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10830; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:52:43 -0500 From: Joe.Cincotta@eurorscg.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: EURORSCG_SYD To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <4A2565F4.0080F3FE.00@Sydney2> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:53:16 +1000 Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms/Printing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Joe Cincotta@EURORSCG_SYD on 29/04/98 11:53 Hi! (my first mail for the list - its a great resource!) Have you tried using persistant global objects? You need the Acrobat Forms plug-in (free from the Adobe website.) I have used this to save persistent data across different forms - the only problem is the 32Kb limit. Make sure that you give users the option to delete persistant objects if they stop using your PDF application. Cheers, Joe +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 3:01:26-GMT,1346;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA12099 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:01:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA13062; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:48:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:43:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12843; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:43:48 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:44:05 -0500 To: From: fbavent@radix.net Subject: RE: [PDF] Problem with a PDF and Netscape Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Reinstall Acrobat - it should work. Looks like your server is byteserving the files. Frank http://airlineinfo.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 4:13:24-GMT,3494;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA14047 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:13:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA15891; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:55:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:49:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15559; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:49:13 -0500 From: "Steve Radlinger" To: Subject: [PDF] Secure transmission of FDF data Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:55:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd7322$a58b6420$5a23a8c0@cube293b> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BD72F8.BCB55C20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BD72F8.BCB55C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello : We currently use an HTML form that allows users to complete an = online application with our service. The HTML form is sending = confidential information to the server using a cgi program. In attempt = to build business, we need to meet comfort level of customers in sending = confidential information over the web. The data is currently sent to our = server as an FDF data file which is then imported to a PDF form using = Exchange. I would like to offer a secure connection (an SSL connection) = to transmit the FDF data file. Is it possible to send and receive an = encrypted FDF data file on an SSL? If so, please advise. Thanks, Steve sradling@mailbag.com ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BD72F8.BCB55C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello : We currently use an HTML form that allows users to complete = an=20 online application with our service. The HTML form is sending = confidential=20 information to the server using a cgi program.  In attempt to build = business, we need to meet comfort level of customers in sending = confidential=20 information over the web. The data is currently sent to our server as an = FDF=20 data file which is then imported to a PDF form using Exchange.  I = would=20 like to offer a secure connection (an SSL connection) to transmit the = FDF data=20 file.  Is it possible to send and receive an encrypted FDF data = file on an=20 SSL? If so, please advise.

Thanks, Steve 
sradling@mailbag.com
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BD72F8.BCB55C20-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 4:15:33-GMT,2616;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA14089 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:15:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA16577; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:09:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:05:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16422; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:05:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3546A7F6.4B8FFFFF@intranetsol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:09:26 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Secure transmission of FDF data References: <01bd7322$a58b6420$5a23a8c0@cube293b> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 one question, how are you importing your FDF data into your PDF? Are you doing this by hand or have you somehow automated the process via OLE? I have been desparetly trying to get this to work to no avail. I am very interested in your approach. thanks -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- > Steve Radlinger wrote: > > Hello : We currently use an HTML form that allows users to complete an > online application with our service. The HTML form is sending confidential > information to the server using a cgi program. In attempt to build > business, we need to meet comfort level of customers in sending confidential > information over the web. The data is currently sent to our server as an FDF > data file which is then imported to a PDF form using Exchange. I would like > to offer a secure connection (an SSL connection) to transmit the FDF data > file. Is it possible to send and receive an encrypted FDF data file on an > SSL? If so, please advise. > > Thanks, Steve > sradling@mailbag.com -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 4:53:48-GMT,1728;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15058 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:53:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA17784; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:39:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:34:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17622; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:34:37 -0500 From: Joe.Cincotta@eurorscg.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: EURORSCG_SYD To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <4A2565F5.00192959.00@Sydney2> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:35:13 +1000 Subject: [PDF] Embedding images in PDF field object Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Joe Cincotta@EURORSCG_SYD on 29/04/98 02:35 I have been working on an interactive forms editor using the Javascript forms plug-in for Acrobat 3.01 I am currently letting users insert an image, however this is done by inserting an icon into a button which must be PDF. I am wondering if there is any way of embedding a standard web-based image file-format such as JPG or GIF into a PDF field to make it easier for end users to insert their own pictures. Thanks for any help, Joe +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 7:33:21-GMT,2407;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03037 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 01:33:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA22712; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:14:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:09:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA22517; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:09:26 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD734E.37DFF770.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PGML possibilties Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:01:25 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi there, being interested in PDF I took a glimpse at first draft of PGML spec. I found that images cannot be embedded into pgml file and are thus linked in the same way as in HTML. This is a pity. One of the most attractive features of PDF is you have all the stuff you need to render a doc in ONE file. Saving things is faster and easier (many many ppl have per-minute charge for Internet access, and they just don't feel like saving ten images aside main file). Image handling is a step back, I think. If speed is crucial, the darn thing could be implemented in a way that allows downloading images after all the text and vector-defined data. As for font handling in PGML: *************PGML spec draft*************** Fonts are specified using the font attribute on , , , or , elements. Fonts are specified using the same specification as CSS2 [6], including the ability to point to a Web font via a URL.

*************PGML spec draft*************** CSS-enlightened, is this anything like PDF font handling (embedding, subset embedding)? thanx, Jernej+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 8:48:42-GMT,2146;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10128 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:48:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA24848; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 03:27:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 03:22:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA24662; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 03:22:25 -0500 From: Munier M-Louise Message-Id: <199804290814.KAA27795@mailhost.edpsciences.com> Subject: [PDF] Adding a moving To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:14:03 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Bonjour, It's easy to add a buttom in a PDF file to go to the NextPage or to go to the FirstPage etc... Is there a possibility to add something to do a screen moving on the same page. My purpose is : adding a buttom to scroll down and up Thanks in advance. And thanks for all responses that I received for my last questions! -- +--------------------------------------------------------+ Marie-Louise MUNIER EDP Sciences 7 Avenue de Hoggar Parc d'activites de Courtaboeuf 91944 Les Ulis Cedex A / France +--------------------------------------------------------+ http://www.edpsciences.com e-mail: munier@edpsciences.com Phone: +33 (0)1 69 18 75 75 Fax: +33 (0)1 69 28 84 91 +--------------------------------------------------------+ Celui qui sait douter doute de ce dont personne ne doute. Y. Zh. Fang +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 11:37:13-GMT,1779;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13150 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 05:37:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA29701; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:10:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:04:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29476; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:03:58 -0500 Message-Id: <98Apr29.130247gmt+0100.22401-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick WOLF To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Search index for pdf on the web Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:10:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA29473 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all, We are delivering on our web site some pdfs, and we want to give the end user the possibility to perform a full-text search on these pdf files. Can anybody say me what is actually the best solution to implement search for pdf on the web ? I have already heard from Verity, Index Server for IIS ... Can anybody shed light on this? Regards, Yannick Wolf CD-ROM Development Basler Zeitung y.wolf@baz.ch +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 11:58:30-GMT,1577;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13543 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 05:58:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA30578; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:37:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:33:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA30446; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:33:20 -0500 Message-ID: <19980429113028.17431.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 04:30:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Iain Gibson Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for April-27-98 [V2 #205] To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi People, I am looking for either Delphi components or a dll that will allow easy plug in of the Acrobat Viewer into a window in my app. I don't have a c compiler so a dll would be great. TIA Iain _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 12:11:41-GMT,1929;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13840 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:11:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA30982; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:45:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:42:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA30797; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:42:14 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: y.wolf@baz.ch Subject: Re: [PDF] Search index for pdf on the web In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:10:37 BST." <98Apr29.130247gmt+0100.22401-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:42:01 +0100 Message-ID: <8628.893850121@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:10:37 BST, Yannick WOLF wrote: > > Hi all, > > We are delivering on our web site some pdfs, and we want to give the end user the possibility to perform a full-text search on these pdf files. > > Can anybody say me what is actually the best solution to implement search for pdf on the web ? I have already heard from Verity, Index Server for IIS ... > > Can anybody shed light on this? The Muscat search engine is pretty good, see http://www.muscat.co.uk/ for more details. They support languages apart from English too, which might (judging from your email address :-) be important. Chris +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 12:12:08-GMT,1597;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13864 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:12:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA31215; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:51:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:47:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA31062; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:47:44 -0500 From: jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENSORIUM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <862565F5.0040B098.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:46:35 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Mac error: "File does not begin with %PDF" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 One possible solution to the problem: I have encountered this error frequently. Mac users often must set up the suffix mapping in the PC Exchange Control Panel so that ".PDF = PDF ". PDF's created on a PC will not launch Acrobat automatically if this is not setup. Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 14:29:33-GMT,2093;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17589 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:29:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04189; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:57:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:53:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03930; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:53:57 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565F5.004B1F5B.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:53:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] How to convert magazines to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Will: Probably the fastest and cheapest method would be to make a high-quality color copy of each page of the magazine after it has been unbound. Then use an automatic document feeder to scan directly to PDF, or if you have the time, scan to TIFF, adjust colors, etc., then distill to PDF. Magazines are notorious for poor scanning, so make copying and scanning your critical step. The actual scan to PDF should take no more than a couple of minutes per page and can be automated. It's always the other steps that eat up your resources. Rick Bishop PRP Media, Houston Will Beumer wrote:>>>>>>>>>> For some CD-ROM publications we want to convert some 50 magazines to PDF. Can anyone tell what is the fastest way? How large (Kbytes) becomes a A4 fc page as PDF? How long wil it take to convert aprox. 500 FC pages? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 14:29:36-GMT,1917;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17599 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:29:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04162; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:57:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:51:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03764; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:51:24 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Delphi components for viewing Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:11:54 +0100 Message-ID: <002401bd7375$be004ae0$56f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19980429113028.17431.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Hi People, > > I am looking for either Delphi components or a dll that will allow > easy plug in of the Acrobat Viewer into a window in my app. > > I don't have a c compiler so a dll would be great. You can do this with OLE, which Delphi 3 supports. Check the Acrobat SDK, on the 3.01 CDROM. Bear in mind you will need Acrobat Exchange. Adobe don't support any solution for this involving the free Reader. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 14:31:40-GMT,1733;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17663 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:31:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04260; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:58:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:55:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04038; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:55:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3547312F.417641A8@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:54:55 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Max Wyss wrote: > > you could place a button on every page which does the GoBack Named Action. Careful, this action returns to the previous *view*, not the previous page. For example, if you open this page, then zoom in on the "go back" button, then click on it, you will still be on the same page, but at the previous magnification. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 14:45:07-GMT,1737;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18170 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:45:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05279; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:18:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:14:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05092; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:14:51 -0500 X-Sender: u114536@cic-mail.lanl.gov Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804280256.VAA16720@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:16:17 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Jim Morgan, CIC-1" Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Excuse me for butting in, but could you tell me who is scanning the documents >for the tobacco litigation. 'Fraid not. It's just something mentioned in passing at a meeting we had with Adobe reps here; I don't even have the reps' names. Gary from Adobe, you have any more info? Sorry, Jim %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jim Morgan CIC-1 Central Ops. Project Leader Phone: (505) 665-8781 Pager: 104-8570 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 15:16:52-GMT,2581;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19105 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:16:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA07465; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:47:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:41:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07019; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:41:54 -0500 Message-ID: <35473C7F.6A92@pre-print.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:43:10 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PGML possibilties References: <01BD734E.37DFF770.jernej@4u.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Jernej Zajc wrote: > I found that images cannot be embedded into pgml file and are thus linked > in the same way as in HTML. This is a pity. I assume you mean non-vector images. > As for font handling in PGML: > > *************PGML spec draft*************** > Fonts are specified using the font attribute on , , , or > , elements. Fonts are specified using the same specification as > CSS2 [6], including the > ability to point to a Web font via a URL.

> *************PGML spec draft*************** I know nothing about CSS, and only a few months of text-based (as opposed to GUI-based) EPS and PDF. PDF has one of the most elegant set of font descriptors I have ever seen embedded in a file. I am not sure yet how it's possible to describe character shapes in so few lines of code, but if that can work cross-platform, it should be possible to do the same kind of thing with PGML. -- You can be be miserably correct, or you can stop doing Windows. ------------------------------------------------------- Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 15:54:40-GMT,3288;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19963 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:54:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11397; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:33:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:29:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11188; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:29:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199804291529.IAA17273@mh2.cts.com> X-Sender: larryd@sd.cts.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:30:48 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: larry Whitaker Subject: Re: [PDF] How to convert magazines to PDF In-Reply-To: <852565F5.004B1F5B.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA11185 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All, Because of commercial restrictions I can't be more specific here, but I think I can say that a certain scanner is capable of processing magazine pages. It can capture both text and graphics. You can then convert to PDF--with quality good enough to publish. Please visit http://www.delmardata.com for more information. At 09:53 AM 4/29/98 -0400, you wrote:> > >Will: Probably the fastest and cheapest method >would be to make a high-quality color copy of each >page of the magazine after it has been unbound. > Then use an automatic document feeder to >scan directly to PDF, or if you have the time, >scan to TIFF, adjust colors, etc., then distill to PDF. > Magazines are notorious for poor scanning, so >make copying and scanning your critical step. >The actual scan to PDF should take no more than >a couple of minutes per page and can be automated. > It's always the other steps that eat up your >resources. >Rick Bishop >PRP Media, Houston > >Will Beumer wrote:>>>>>>>>>> >For some CD-ROM publications we want to convert some >50 magazines to PDF. >Can anyone tell what is the fastest way? >How large (Kbytes) becomes a A4 fc page as PDF? >How long wil it take to convert aprox. 500 FC pages? > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Larry Whitaker, President, Del Mar Data, Inc. 215 La Barranca Dr. Solana Beach, CA 92075 voice 619.259.7911 fax 619.259.1053 email: larry@delmardata.com Web site: http://www.delmardata.com FTP site: ftp.delmardata.com  /incoming or /pub XYNERGY! The combination of Xerox with PDF! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 15:54:40-GMT,2317;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19964 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:54:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11141; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:29:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:24:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10854; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:24:23 -0500 Message-ID: <001701bd7384$103dba00$4bb1f482@ulf> From: "Ulf Andersson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for April-27-98 [V2 #205] Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:32:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Why not use the Acrobat ActiveX Regards Ulf -----Original Message----- From: Iain Gibson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: den 29 april 1998 13:41 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for April-27-98 [V2 #205] > > >Hi People, > >I am looking for either Delphi components or a dll that will allow >easy plug in of the Acrobat Viewer into a window in my app. > >I don't have a c compiler so a dll would be great. > >TIA > >Iain >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 15:55:09-GMT,2443;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19990 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:55:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11138; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:29:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:22:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10683; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:22:28 -0500 Message-ID: <001201bd7383$cab4d2c0$4bb1f482@ulf> From: "Ulf Andersson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Search index for pdf on the web Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:30:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 HI Yannick One of the companies that I am working for is very satisfied with Index Server for IIS. Regards Ulf -----Original Message----- From: Yannick WOLF To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: den 29 april 1998 13:14 Subject: [PDF] Search index for pdf on the web > >Hi all, > >We are delivering on our web site some pdfs, and we want to give the end user the possibility to perform a full-text search on these pdf files. > >Can anybody say me what is actually the best solution to implement search for pdf on the web ? I have already heard from Verity, Index Server for IIS ... > >Can anybody shed light on this? > >Regards, > > >Yannick Wolf >CD-ROM Development >Basler Zeitung >y.wolf@baz.ch > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 16:31:24-GMT,3407;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20951 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:31:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA13213; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:02:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:58:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12992; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:58:11 -0500 Message-ID: <35474E8B.2B9C6FB8@document-solutions.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:00:11 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How to convert magazines to PDF References: <852565F5.004B1F5B.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Will: I'm not sure what you're looking for from these magazines, but if you need reliable full-text searchability, you should NOT "scan directly to PDF". High-quality, moderately-sized PDFs from magazine pages should be processed through Acrobat Capture and corrected in Acrobat Capture Reviewer. If the final PDF file is ever to be used as Web content (I know you mentioned CD-ROMs), you'll DEFINATELY need this process -- because file sizes for color PDF/Image+Text files are MONSTROUS. BTW -- focussing on the "fastest" way is usually how paper-to-PDF projects get screwed up..... Rick Bishop wrote: > Will: Probably the fastest and cheapest method > would be to make a high-quality color copy of each > page of the magazine after it has been unbound. > Then use an automatic document feeder to > scan directly to PDF, or if you have the time, > scan to TIFF, adjust colors, etc., then distill to PDF. > Magazines are notorious for poor scanning, so > make copying and scanning your critical step. > The actual scan to PDF should take no more than > a couple of minutes per page and can be automated. > It's always the other steps that eat up your > resources. > Rick Bishop > PRP Media, Houston > > Will Beumer wrote:>>>>>>>>>> > For some CD-ROM publications we want to convert some > 50 magazines to PDF. > Can anyone tell what is the fastest way? > How large (Kbytes) becomes a A4 fc page as PDF? > How long wil it take to convert aprox. 500 FC pages? > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 17:08:35-GMT,2146;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21867 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:08:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA15270; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:38:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:30:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14852; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:30:35 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3547312F.417641A8@beacon.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:15:45 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links Cc: "Cory Snavely" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory, thanks a lot for reminding me about that. So, it might be useful to place more than one GoBack button on a page. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________ >Max Wyss wrote: >> >> you could place a button on every page which does the GoBack Named Action. > >Careful, this action returns to the previous *view*, not the previous page. > >For example, if you open this page, then zoom in on the "go back" button, then >click on it, you will still be on the same page, but at the previous >magnification. > >Cory Snavely >The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 17:11:03-GMT,2349;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21911 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:11:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA15903; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:47:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:43:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15607; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:43:24 -0500 From: kgabbert@tribune.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:37:29 -0500 Message-ID: <00036FD9.CE21251@tribune.com> Subject: [PDF] Export PDF to EPS Level2 Dilema To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a composite color PDF file that needs to be output on a Postscript Level 2 RIP. I followed the steps outlined below and came up with my type seperated on all 4 plates and the graphics seperated only on the balck plate. The steps taken were: 1. Using Exchange 3.0; Export PDF to EPS Level 2 - the checkbox at the bottom of the window states something like "Include RGB and LAB images". When you select the Level 2 option, you do not have the ability to deselect this checkbox - it is automatically done and the words are grayed out. 2. Using Quark 3.32; a page is made and picture box drawn, then the color EPS is imported 3. To prepare for output, seperations are turned on, all colors have been edited for CMYK and process seperations, registration on and centered This produced a file where the images did not seperate...why? Then, we went back and exported the composite color PDF file to an EPS Level 1 with the RGB & LAB checkbox deselected. When this file was output - following steps 2 & 3 above, it seperated fine on all 4 plates...why didn't the Level 2 option work? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 17:49:54-GMT,3091;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22864 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:49:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17856; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:24:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:20:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17653; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:20:50 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Export PDF to EPS Level2 Dilema Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:19:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd7393$00f3b400$37f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <00036FD9.CE21251@tribune.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I have a composite color PDF file that needs to be output on > a Postscript Level > 2 RIP. I followed the steps outlined below and came up with > my type seperated on > all 4 plates and the graphics seperated only on the balck > plate. The steps taken > were: > > 1. Using Exchange 3.0; Export PDF to EPS Level 2 - the > checkbox at the bottom of > the window states something like "Include RGB and LAB > images". When you select > the Level 2 option, you do not have the ability to deselect > this checkbox - it > is automatically done and the words are grayed out. > > 2. Using Quark 3.32; a page is made and picture box drawn, > then the color EPS is > imported > > 3. To prepare for output, seperations are turned on, all > colors have been edited > for CMYK and process seperations, registration on and centered > > This produced a file where the images did not seperate...why? You don't say how you are separating, but I think it's safe to assume you are separarating in QuarkXPress. Quark is really not a very smart separator. Quark, like most on-host separation systems can't separate level 2 colour spaces. Separation in Quark appears to be reliable and robust *only* when you stick to EPS from producers that play the game - which means level 1 colours, and some other restrictions. > > Then, we went back and exported the composite color PDF file > to an EPS Level 1 > with the RGB & LAB checkbox deselected. When this file was > output - following > steps 2 & 3 above, it seperated fine on all 4 plates...why > didn't the Level 2 > option work? Hopefully, the above answers that. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 17:50:20-GMT,2084;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22881 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:50:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17536; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:18:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:14:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17295; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:14:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for April-27-98 [V2 #205] Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:13:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd7392$10e1e0e0$37f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <001701bd7384$103dba00$4bb1f482@ulf> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > > > > >Hi People, > > > >I am looking for either Delphi components or a dll that will allow > >easy plug in of the Acrobat Viewer into a window in my app. > > > >I don't have a c compiler so a dll would be great. > > > > > Why not use the Acrobat ActiveX > Regards > Ulf You can try, but be aware that it is deliberately not supported or documented by Adobe, for any use except displaying PDF files in Microsoft Internet Explorer. As such, it might probably work for you if you don't want to do anything explorer doesn't do. It may not work at all if Explorer is not installed. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 17:51:13-GMT,1715;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22904 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:51:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18311; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:32:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:27:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17996; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:27:32 -0500 Message-ID: <35477EF1.B35994F7@bense.de> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 01:38:54 +0000 From: "Ulrich Bense" Organization: Ulrich Bense GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Exporting Pictures or Text X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, i am searching for a plug-in which allows to export 1. a selected piece of text to a text file 2. a selected picture to a picture file (EPS or TIFF) thanks -- Ulrich Bense * Ulrich Bense GmbH * digitale Kommunikation Borkener Strasse 134a * 46853 Coesfeld * www.bense.de Tel: +49 2541 918-0 * Fax: +49 2541 918-120 * ub@bense.de +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 18:28:38-GMT,2894;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23677 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:28:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA21204; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:58:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:53:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19898; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:53:51 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565F5.0060DBA2.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:51:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Max and Cory: Thanks for the info. We've decided to use the "goback" menu item and labeled it "Go to Previous View". It'll work just like the toolbar "<< " button and step the viewer back through the various "views". If I'm not mistaken the "view>previous page" menu item only works in the open document. Correct?? SueG Max Wyss on 04/29/98 09:15:45 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: "Cory Snavely" (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links Cory, thanks a lot for reminding me about that. So, it might be useful to place more than one GoBack button on a page. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________ >Max Wyss wrote: >> >> you could place a button on every page which does the GoBack Named Action. > >Careful, this action returns to the previous *view*, not the previous page. > >For example, if you open this page, then zoom in on the "go back" button, then >click on it, you will still be on the same page, but at the previous >magnification. > >Cory Snavely >The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 19:02:37-GMT,4055;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24633 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:02:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA23404; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:32:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:28:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23056; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:28:08 -0500 From: kgabbert@tribune.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:21:12 -0500 Message-ID: <0000447B.CE21252@tribune.com> Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Export PDF to EPS Level2 Dilema To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Based on the following response: "You don't say how you are separating, but I think it's safe to assume you are separarating in QuarkXPress. Quark is really not a very smart separator. Quark, like most on-host separation systems can't separate level 2 colour spaces. Separation in Quark appears to be reliable and robust *only* when you stick to EPS from producers that play the game - which means level 1 colours, and some other restrictions." Does this mean that Adobe's Acrobat not an EPS producer that plays the game? Is there no solution, other than always exporting level 1 composite color eps files from acrobat or output direct to a level 3 rip? YIKES!! _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] Export PDF to EPS Level2 Dilema From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com at Internet_TCO Date: 4/29/98 6:19 PM > I have a composite color PDF file that needs to be output on > a Postscript Level > 2 RIP. I followed the steps outlined below and came up with > my type seperated on > all 4 plates and the graphics seperated only on the balck > plate. The steps taken > were: > > 1. Using Exchange 3.0; Export PDF to EPS Level 2 - the > checkbox at the bottom of > the window states something like "Include RGB and LAB > images". When you select > the Level 2 option, you do not have the ability to deselect > this checkbox - it > is automatically done and the words are grayed out. > > 2. Using Quark 3.32; a page is made and picture box drawn, > then the color EPS is > imported > > 3. To prepare for output, seperations are turned on, all > colors have been edited > for CMYK and process seperations, registration on and centered > > This produced a file where the images did not seperate...why? You don't say how you are separating, but I think it's safe to assume you are separarating in QuarkXPress. Quark is really not a very smart separator. Quark, like most on-host separation systems can't separate level 2 colour spaces. Separation in Quark appears to be reliable and robust *only* when you stick to EPS from producers that play the game - which means level 1 colours, and some other restrictions. > > Then, we went back and exported the composite color PDF file > to an EPS Level 1 > with the RGB & LAB checkbox deselected. When this file was > output - following > steps 2 & 3 above, it seperated fine on all 4 plates...why > didn't the Level 2 > option work? Hopefully, the above answers that. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 19:03:07-GMT,2136;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24668 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:03:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA23405; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:32:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:28:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23037; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:28:03 -0500 From: kgabbert@tribune.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:21:45 -0500 Message-ID: <0000447C.CE21252@tribune.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting Pictures or Text To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 go back to the original document. _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: [PDF] Exporting Pictures or Text From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com at Internet_TCO Date: 4/30/98 1:38 AM Hello, i am searching for a plug-in which allows to export 1. a selected piece of text to a text file 2. a selected picture to a picture file (EPS or TIFF) thanks -- Ulrich Bense * Ulrich Bense GmbH * digitale Kommunikation Borkener Strasse 134a * 46853 Coesfeld * www.bense.de Tel: +49 2541 918-0 * Fax: +49 2541 918-120 * ub@bense.de +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 19:45:42-GMT,2364;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25771 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:45:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26829; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:15:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:10:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26586; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:10:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Moore, James (Guardall)" To: "PDF List Group (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Bitmap PDF Printing and Capturing Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:03:48 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Image resolution issue?! Having difficulties when generating PDF for printing of end user manuals. We are currently archiving all of our manuals from Word 97 into PDF format. The documents all contain bitmap screen captures of software screens captured (97 dpi) using HiJaak 800 X 600 (256 colours). They are then linked into word and scaled as required. When printing from Word directly to a postcript printer they print fine. When we print to file (using Acrobat Ditiller as the printer driver) and then distill to PDF they print fine on a postcript printer but print "chunky" and poorly to a non-postcript printer. Note: This problem of a non-postcript printer occurs even when generating PDF from PageMaker 6.5. Can anyone indicate the most effecient and best method of generating PDF documents that have embedded screen captures? And what is the best method of capturing screens that are to be PDFed and printed on postcript and non-postcript printers? Reagrds James Moore Communications Manager Guardall North America jmoore@guardall.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 19:45:58-GMT,1737;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25782 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:45:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27318; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:24:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:20:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27137; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:20:38 -0500 From: larry_klug@studio.disney.com Message-Id: <9804298938.AA893874237@ccmsmtp.wds.disney.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 98 09:11:16 -0800 To: Subject: [PDF] PDFs of the WEB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To all, This is my first post, so hello! I have a question about using PDF documents on the WEB. If someone is going to place some faily large PDFs (say 20+ pages), and they wish to provide fairly sophisticated search and navigation from the browser, is "byte serving" the best way to go, or splitting the the PDF into individual pages and indexing them with a SQL database? Has anyone out there dealt with these kinds of problems? Thanks in advance, Larry +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 20:20:18-GMT,2843;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26562 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:20:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28409; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:48:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:44:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28161; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:44:13 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565F5.006B2EE0.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:42:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting Pictures or Text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've used both RedWing and Forte - they'll allow you to select text and export it, and to select a graphic and export it (In Exchange you can select "TOOLS>SELECT GRAPHICS" and copy this into another application). SueG kgabbert@tribune.com on 04/29/98 11:21:45 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting Pictures or Text go back to the original document. ___________________________________________________________________________ ____ Subject: [PDF] Exporting Pictures or Text From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com at Internet_TCO Date: 4/30/98 1:38 AM Hello, i am searching for a plug-in which allows to export 1. a selected piece of text to a text file 2. a selected picture to a picture file (EPS or TIFF) thanks -- Ulrich Bense * Ulrich Bense GmbH * digitale Kommunikation Borkener Strasse 134a * 46853 Coesfeld * www.bense.de Tel: +49 2541 918-0 * Fax: +49 2541 918-120 * ub@bense.de +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 20:20:57-GMT,3115;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26582 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:20:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28820; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:57:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:53:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28642; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:53:21 -0500 From: "David M. Davisson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFs of the WEB Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:52:04 -0700 Message-ID: <000301bd73a8$48e09660$a2456cc7@shadow.pfp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <9804298938.AA893874237@ccmsmtp.wds.disney.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Larry, The answer for us has been to do both. Lots of folks will tell you to try to keep it all together, but our visitors frequently wish to view only portions of documents, which are image based, so we split up the pages and offer the option to download the entire document. As really neat approach would be to store the whole PDF in blob space and be able to extract individual pages or the whole document at will. You can see this at http://www.emuni.com/cgi-bin/emuni/server2 David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of larry_klug@studio.disney.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 10:11 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDFs of the WEB > > > > > To all, > > This is my first post, so hello! > > I have a question about using PDF documents on the WEB. If > someone is going to > place some faily large PDFs (say 20+ pages), and they wish to > provide fairly > sophisticated search and navigation from the browser, is "byte > serving" the best > way to go, or splitting the the PDF into individual pages and > indexing them with > a SQL database? Has anyone out there dealt with these kinds of problems? > > Thanks in advance, > > Larry > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 20:31:22-GMT,2563;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26833 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:31:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA30149; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:16:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:12:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29772; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:12:01 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: Re[2]: [PDF] Export PDF to EPS Level2 Dilema Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:04:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd73aa$e82ade40$37f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <0000447B.CE21252@tribune.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Based on the following response: > > "You don't say how you are separating, but I think it's safe > to assume you are separarating in QuarkXPress. Quark is really > not a very smart separator. > > Quark, like most on-host separation systems can't separate > level 2 colour spaces. Separation in Quark appears to be reliable > and robust *only* when you stick to EPS from producers that > play the game - which means level 1 colours, and some other > restrictions." > > Does this mean that Adobe's Acrobat not an EPS producer that > plays the game? Is > there no solution, other than always exporting level 1 > composite color eps files > from acrobat or output direct to a level 3 rip? YIKES!! Or a level 2 RIP, almost all of which can separate composite output - in a sense separating from Xpress has been obsolete since 1990. I don't see the problem - if you want to separate using XPress, you have been and probably always will be limited to level 1. Separation workflows are full of caveats, and one day I hope we will be rid of these antedeluvian systems. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 20:37:26-GMT,3839;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26941 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:37:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA30471; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:21:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:17:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30199; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:17:01 -0500 Message-Id: <9804292016.AA04284@atla3> Subject: [PDF] Export PDF to EPS Level2 Dilema Date: Wed, 29 Apr 98 16:20:53 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are separating these PostScript 2 based pages, but we are printing them from Quark XPress as composite and therefore not using Quarks separation engine - we are doing this in the Agfa Agfa Taipan AX Rip. Of course, we are also avoiding this whole PostScript to PDF to PostScript weave by processing composite PDFs directly in our Agfa Apogee system, which uses PDF as its native file structure. >Based on the following response: > >"You don't say how you are separating, but I think it's safe >to assume you are separarating in QuarkXPress. Quark is really >not a very smart separator. > >Quark, like most on-host separation systems can't separate >level 2 colour spaces. Separation in Quark appears to be reliable >and robust *only* when you stick to EPS from producers that >play the game - which means level 1 colours, and some other >restrictions." > >Does this mean that Adobe's Acrobat not an EPS producer that plays the >game? No, Adobe Exchange Export as eps plays the game perfectly and flexibly - it offers you the ability to select level 1, 2 or PostScript 3 when saving PDF files out as PostScript - this person selected 2, and discovered that Quark does not separate level 2 postscript. One might be tempted to blame Quark for this, but honestly, if you are interested in getting Quark to make plates, this is a perfect job for level 1, and that is exactly what Quark is doing -- Just Like Crackerjack cannot perform separations without a level 2 in Rip separations capable device... >Is there no solution, other than always exporting level 1 composite color eps >files from acrobat or output direct to a level 3 rip? YIKES!! There are several alternatives. One is to ask Quark to use level 1 commands and make plates, which is what it does regardless if you use PhotoShop eps files or PDF files saved out as level 1. Another is to use a level 2 rip that performs in rip separations on composite postscript - Quark can certainly deliver separateable level 2 PostScript to a level 2 rip that can perform in rip separations - the third is (of course) sending composite PostScript 3 to a PS3 rip - a forth is to drop the PDF into a PostScript 3 rip pagestore (via the Normalizer) and apply PJTF (Portable Job Ticket Format) settings to it to perform color separations. Please reply to mikejahn@jahn.com Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa-Gevaert N.V. 200 Ballardvale St. MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P: 978.658.0200 ext 5504 I: www.jahn.org Cell Phone: 617.605.5716 F: 508.658.8982 (but don't send me a FAX -send a PDF file!) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 22:17:04-GMT,2945;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29095 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:17:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA02576; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:51:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:46:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02374; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:46:35 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03F5EE@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for April-27-98 [V2 #205] Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:43:29 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you are using Acrobat Exchange as your viewer then you can use the OpenInWindowEx method. Refer to the file Vwiacref.pdf in the Acrobat SDK. The title of this file is "Acrobat Viewer Interapplication Communication On-Line Reference". BOOL OpenInWindowEx(LPCTSTR szFullPath, short/long hWnd, long openFlags, BOOL useOpenParams, long pgNum, short pageMode, short zoomType, long zoom, short top, short left) If you are going to embed the ActiveX control in your app then you could consider embedding an Internet Explorer control and then embedding the Acrobat ActiveX control within that page. regards, Karl ;> > > > > > > > >Hi People, > > > > > >I am looking for either Delphi components or a dll that will allow > > >easy plug in of the Acrobat Viewer into a window in my app. > > > > > >I don't have a c compiler so a dll would be great. > > > > > > > > > Why not use the Acrobat ActiveX > > Regards > > Ulf > > You can try, but be aware that it is deliberately not > supported or documented by Adobe, for any use except displaying > PDF files in Microsoft Internet Explorer. As such, it might > probably work for you if you don't want to do anything > explorer doesn't do. It may not work at all if Explorer is > not installed. > > Aandi > +------------------------------------------------------------- > -----------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > + > > +------------------------------------------------------------- > -----------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Apr-1998 23:38:08-GMT,3755;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00845 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:38:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05904; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:11:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:06:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05710; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:06:25 -0500 Message-ID: <002e01bd73c6$d85f8760$8fb2adcd@stever> From: "Steve Radlinger" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Secure transmission of FDF data Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:30:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello Roy: if you FDF data file is setup correctly, all it should take is opening the form in Exchange and then choosing File/Import/Data File, and it merges. We have been able to automate the process on-the-fly with users being able to see the completed (merged) PDF document online, but since it has not worked successfully in MSIE, we have gone back to development. Currently, the FDF data files are saved on the server which are then saved to hard disk and imported into Exchange. Sincerely, Steve Radlinger -----Original Message----- From: Roy J. Davis To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Secure transmission of FDF data > >one question, how are you importing your FDF data into your PDF? Are >you doing this by hand or have you somehow automated the process >via OLE? I have been desparetly trying to get this to work to no >avail. I am very interested in your approach. > >thanks > >-- >------------------------- >Roy J. Davis >Software Engineer >IntraNet Solutions, Inc. >Eden Prairie, MN. >roy.davis@intranetsol.com >------------------------- > > >> Steve Radlinger wrote: >> >> Hello : We currently use an HTML form that allows users to complete an >> online application with our service. The HTML form is sending confidential >> information to the server using a cgi program. In attempt to build >> business, we need to meet comfort level of customers in sending confidential >> information over the web. The data is currently sent to our server as an FDF >> data file which is then imported to a PDF form using Exchange. I would like >> to offer a secure connection (an SSL connection) to transmit the FDF data >> file. Is it possible to send and receive an encrypted FDF data file on an >> SSL? If so, please advise. >> >> Thanks, Steve >> sradling@mailbag.com > >-- >------------------------- >Roy J. Davis >Software Engineer >IntraNet Solutions, Inc. >Eden Prairie, MN. >roy.davis@intranetsol.com >------------------------- >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Apr-1998 2:50:53-GMT,3322;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04070 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:50:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA12681; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:20:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:14:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12443; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:14:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199804300208.KAA18796@sgdcn.sg.oracle.com> Date: 30 Apr 98 10:03:53 +0800 From: "Peter Teoh" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF to text conversion X-Orcl-Application: InterOffice Version4.1.2.10.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Oracle InterOffice (version 4.1.1.3.40) content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_ORCL_8256576_0r0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --=_ORCL_8256576_0r0 Content-Type:text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding:quoted-printable My customer will like to buy some tools that can convert PDF to text on the command line level, preferably on the HP platforms. Anyone knows of any such products? ______________________________________________________________ O R A C L E Peter Teoh Sales Consultant Oracle Systems 1 Temasek Avenue Phone 65.339.6116 S.E.A. 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We are tackling this problem through our PDFlink product which turns the absolute link in a PDF document to a "logical" link that is then processed to retrieve the destination document, wherever it may be. If you're interested please see our web site, or email me directly for further details. Regards Jim PS PDFlink will work with a variety of document management systems, including Documentum, and it will be available for trial in the next month or so. --- JA Cook, Director - Technology Computerised Document Control Ltd Specialists in document systems from strategy to rollout. Direct Tel: +44 (1249) 460953 Direct Fax: +44 (1249) 460078 Mobile: +44 (385) 558432 WWW: http://www.docctrl.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Wraight, David D. > Sent: 24 April 1998 01:34 > To: 'pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com'; 'PDF List Posting' > Subject: [PDF] Documentum and PDF > Importance: High > > > > Folks, > > I need some help urgently. Has anyone had any experience in PDF storage > in a Documentum Repository? > > Basically I need to know what issues there are if I were to create > thousands of interlinked PDF files and then store them in the repository > - would the external PDF links still work?? Do they have to be stored > in a particular way? > > Appreciate any help... > > > d................................... > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Apr-1998 9:40:28-GMT,2453;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01328 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 03:40:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA26267; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 04:12:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Apr 1998 04:08:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26131; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 04:08:16 -0500 >Received: from amg-uucp.amg.de by amg.de with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yUp5X-000LW4C; Thu, 30 Apr 98 10:53 MET DST Message-ID: <35483B1E.AEA4CA5B@amg.de> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:49:34 +0200 From: Nadya Gobran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Cannot search in PDF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello everybody!!! Just a little note about my system & configuration: I'm using Windows 95, working with Office 97, have installed the PDF-Maker and using the Adobe 4.2.3 Printer driver as Distiller Assistant for Adobe Acrobat 3.01 and Distiller 3.02. I have experienced the following problem: Creating a PDF with the PDF-Maker through the Distiller Assistant is working fine. Meaning I can search in my PDF. But, if I'm printing "normally" through the printing Menue using the distiller Assistant I'm not able to search the document any more. Same problem appears, when I'm printing from Excel. If I'm using the PDF-Writer everything works fine again and I'm able to search in the document. Isn't that odd??? Seems to be a problem with the Adobe Printer Driver 4.2.3. Has anybody a solution or have experienced the same. Thanks for any help..... and excuse my broken english ;O) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen i.A. Nadya Gobran AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH Phone: (49) 2 31 / 97 53 54 - 0 Fax: (49) 2 31 / 97 53 54 - 55 E-Mail: nago@amg.de +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Apr-1998 12:28:02-GMT,1579;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04521 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 06:28:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA31916; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:03:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Apr 1998 06:58:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA31635; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 06:58:34 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <35477EF1.B35994F7@bense.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:59:13 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting Pictures or Text Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Hello, > >i am searching for a plug-in which allows to export > >1. a selected piece of text to a text file >2. a selected picture to a picture file (EPS or TIFF) > Take a look at http://www.iceni.com They offer a range of text and image extraction plug-ins. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Apr-1998 13:04:39-GMT,1813;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05295 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:04:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA00812; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:44:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:40:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00670; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:40:33 -0500 Message-ID: <35487136.5BFC087B@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:40:22 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Return to Previous Doc links References: <882565F5.0060DBA2.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > > Max and Cory: Thanks for the info. We've decided to use the "goback" menu > item and labeled it "Go to Previous View". It'll work just like the > toolbar "<< " button and step the viewer back through the various "views". > If I'm not mistaken the "view>previous page" menu item only works in the > open document. Correct?? I believe that's what I found; it's easily tested. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Apr-1998 17:01:26-GMT,1604;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13257 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:01:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA13771; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:45:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:40:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13472; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:40:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3548AA30.7FEA@spokanecounty.org> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:43:28 -0700 From: Hal Allert Organization: Spokane County X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Reader start-up on website Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have noticed that, when selecting one of our .PDF files, the majority of time taken before seeing that file, is caused by Reader starting up. Is it possible to have Reader load in the background when someone clicks on our site so that it is ready to go when they select a .PDF? Hal +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Apr-1998 17:03:30-GMT,2963;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13351 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:03:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA13967; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:49:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:46:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13803; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:46:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3548BB44.61B4F30D@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:57:04 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting Pictures or Text References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Gary, It's been a long time since I have spoken to you! Things are going well. Am working on a very interesting Acrobat project that you might find intriguing. Also will be putting out some fairly nice looking sites using PageMill. Check out the one at http://www.matrixmoves.com/index.htm. PM is a pretty decent app. Now to my question. Is there anything out there that produces kosher html from PDF. Please don't ask as to why this client wants to do this but they do. If you know of anything, that would be terrific. Take care. Bob PS. When will 4.0 come out for us beta testers???? Gary Cosimini wrote: > >Hello, > > > >i am searching for a plug-in which allows to export > > > >1. a selected piece of text to a text file > >2. a selected picture to a picture file (EPS or TIFF) > > > > Take a look at http://www.iceni.com > > They offer a range of text and image extraction plug-ins. > > Gary Cosimini > Adobe Systems > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Voice 203-452-1116 Fax 203-452-0416 e-mail remoran@dconstructs.com e-mail remoran@kiwi.futuris.net Web Site: ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:48:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15845; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:30:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:25:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15638; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:25:42 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader start-up on website Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:17:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd745c$db2b4060$44f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3548AA30.7FEA@spokanecounty.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I don't believe this is possible; besides, on the majority of PCs the system is pretty much locked out while Reader is starting. Reader can be left running all the time; that's how I use it. > > I have noticed that, when selecting one of our .PDF files, > the majority > of time taken before seeing that file, is caused by Reader > starting up. > Is it possible to have Reader load in the background when > someone clicks > on our site so that it is ready to go when they select a .PDF? > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Apr-1998 15:54:00-GMT,1743;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10697 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:53:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09781; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:34:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:29:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09476; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:29:32 -0500 Message-ID: <35489971.6692@vegasnet.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:32:01 -0700 From: David Pancoast X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Cannot search in PDF References: <35483B1E.AEA4CA5B@amg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Re: Searching .PDF vis-a-vis printer driver selection Guten Tag, Nadya Firstly, I am worried. You describe your English as "broken". But, I've spoken it all my life and it looks excellent to me! :-) Secondly, could you explain the relationship between printer drivers and searching? Are you saying that the default printer driver setting causes your Acrobat search function to 'turn on and off'? -David Pancoast Las Vegas, NV, USA +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Apr-1998 18:45:54-GMT,5454;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03121 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:45:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18006; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:23:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:18:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17779; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:18:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:18:30 +0100 (BST) From: David Brailsford X-Sender: dfb@quiver To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Abstract structure within PGML Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > *Ability for applications to store private data within the PGML to enable > PGML authoring applications to write then read PGML files without loss of > high-level application data. > If this is implemented as XML within the PGML document then this would > address the deficiency I had noted. The resulting document could also > achieve numerous benefits over a stricter content/markup separation. > Eric Solberg > Synapsis, LLC Yes -- it's interesting that an SGML/purist approach to separated content and appearance would have abstract markup in an XML file, the particular formatting you want represented in an XSL style (and the hyperlinks in yet another separate XLL file !). Ideally you can then convolve all these together and generate output, in whatever format you want, by appropriate choice of a particular XSL spec. For example you could have XSL stylesheets that turn your XML doct into (a)HTML (b)HTML-with-PGML-inserts-for-vector-graphics (c) pure PGML etc. etc. Once again, the purist view would be that HTML and PGML are just two more examples of page description languages (or should it be *CRT screen* description languages) not at all dissimilar to PostScript or PDF. One could reply that HTML is "higher level", in some sense, than appearance-dominated PGML because

represents "heading level 1" as well as "change into 36 point bold Times" whereas in PGML there would be just a flurry of font and size change commands. Nevertheless HTML is still an uneasy, and rather inelegant, mix of structure and appearance. What the pragmatists may be happy with, as Eric Solberg indicates, is an option whereby structure tags get generated (in XML syntax) from the front-end software (be it XML, Framemaker, Quark, LaTeX, whatever) and mixed in with the PGML (say), to assist in editing and repurposing the PGML doct. in the future. An ACME Software Inc. typesetting front end could drop down structure tags like: .... yards of PGML .. so that databases, search engines and other external software, can home in easily on all the tables, or all the barcharts etc. in a given doct. Moreover, ACME's software range can re-import the PGML it generated and know what it's importing. From there it's but a short step for Adobe, or whoever, to be able to make sense of ACME's tags and could allow intelligent importation of "foreign" PGML from other sources into Adobe software (this observation applies equally to PDF itself. PDF structure tags saying "this next chunk is a barchart" would help enormously in chopping that piece out for importation elsewhere). The bottom line for me in all of this, for the PDF community, is that the "impedance mismatch" between PDF and HTML will be greatly reduced if and when PGML inserts within HTML become the norm (e.g. for vector graphics) and would be reduced still further if next-generation browsers give us the opportunity for pure-PGML docts. with good performance. As an example, page-based parts, or fashion, catalogues could then be put out on the Web with full layout control (rather than, at the moment, grossly abusing HTML's table facilities simply to get fixed layout and to stop stuff re-flowing). Indeed your company's Web design team and the ink-on-paper Quark/PostScript/PDF team can actually start *talking* to one another at long last ... The fact that XML syntax gives a means for adding extra "structure" tags into PGML means that at last we begin to reconcile structure with appearance (but with clearly separated tagsets -- unlike HTML's "hybrid"

) and to get the best of both worlds. It would also be great to have PGML supported "native" in Netscape and IE thereby removing, almost entirely, the need for Reader plugins or helper apps. David B. --------------------------------------------------------------------- David F. Brailsford Dunford Professor of Computer Science e-mail: dfb@cs.nott.ac.uk Dept. of Computer Science http://www.ep.cs.nott.ac.uk/~dfb University of Nottingham Tel: +44 (0)115 951 4251 NOTTINGHAM NG7 2RD, Fax: +44 (0)115 951 4254 UK. --------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 1:09:12-GMT,1873;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12099 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:09:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA01411; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:50:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:44:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01059; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:44:03 -0500 From: Joe.Cincotta@eurorscg.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: EURORSCG_SYD To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <4A2565F7.0003AC12.00@Sydney2> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:45:07 +1000 Subject: [PDF] PDF and Native JS objects Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Joe Cincotta@EURORSCG_SYD on 01/05/98 10:45 Hi all, I have an interesting question... is it possible to communicate with browser-level Javascript using the JS forms plug in from Adobe? Instead of communicating solely using FDF via a database, I am wondering if I can use cookies to keep all this form information client-side. Another question which I have been pondering is how to embed normal web-based graphic formats such as GIF or JPEG in a PDF field. It seems that the JS Forms plug-in only facilitates PDF image insertion in a button field, not anything else. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help in advance. Joe Cincotta +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 4:29:51-GMT,3101;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA16065 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:29:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA08477; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:13:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:07:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08216; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:07:18 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980430210530.00ad8980@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: jyc2@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:05:30 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: James Cheng Subject: [PDF] LIBTIFF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, To respond to several requests about the LibTiff library, I am posting this to the newsgroup rather than sending individual emails. A webpage I suggest to start at is http://home.earthlink.net/~ritter/tiff/ named "The Unofficial TIFF Home Page." This should be a good starting point for all of those interested in learning more about handling TIFF files. In addition, there is info about LibTiff at this site, as well as several other alternatives. For those who requested info about LibTiff for particular platforms, the LibTiff library, written by Sam Leffler, is a platform-independent and public-domain set of subroutines, along with several Unix utilities. As far as I understand, that means that the utilities work on unix only. The library's subroutines can be used to add TIFF capabilities to a C program. This means that, for those of us without access to a Unix box, we would have to write our own program, using the subroutines in the LibTiff library. For programmers, this should be relatively easy. For non-programmers, you'd have to find a programmer, or try considering some other solution for your needs. Again, I recommend those interested to check it out yourself, in case I have misunderstood something. There is a link to a version of LibTiff for Windows compilers, but I am not sure I would recommend it. Although I have not tried using it, the files are dated from 1994. For those who just need help with syntax of using the LibTiff utilties, read the man page. If you want, there is also some info on usage on the site mentioned above. Hope this answers everyone's questions. If you have additional questions, feel free to post to the list. I prefer the list to private email; that way, everyone gets to benefit from the discussion. Sincerely, James Cheng +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+