1-May-1998 15:49:47-GMT,1813;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29353 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 09:49:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA32405; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:23:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 10:09:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31514; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:09:54 -0500 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Batch Document Info Extractor? Message-Id: <"0501145026-Batch Document Info Extractor?"@MHS> Date: 01 May 1998 09:48:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone have a tool which would produce a data file similar to Compose's Fill Document Information from either a directory full of documents or an Acrobat index? I need to modify the info fields for several hundred documents, and since the changes are similar for each doc, it'd be easy to do in a database environment, painful to do to each doc individually. The doc info fields were set on a per-doc process, so there is no already-built info file. Any suggestions? Joel Finkle G.D. Searle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 16:24:35-GMT,2145;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00193 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:24:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01532; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:01:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 10:54:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01146; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:54:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199805011554.KAA01142@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch Document Info Extractor? Date: Fri, 1 May 98 11:51:18 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 [JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com wrote on 5/1/98 10:48 AM] > Does anyone have a tool which would produce a data file similar to > Compose's Fill Document Information from either a directory full of > documents or an Acrobat index? > > I need to modify the info fields for several hundred documents, and > since the changes are similar for each doc, it'd be easy to do in a > database environment, painful to do to each doc individually. The doc > info fields were set on a per-doc process, so there is no > already-built info file. > > Any suggestions? > > Joel Finkle > G.D. Searle Joel, What is the format of Compose's Fill Document Information file? Thanks, Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 16:26:02-GMT,2401;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00222 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:26:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01910; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:06:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 11:00:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01454; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:00:28 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980501160103.00d7dcc8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 09:01:03 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch Document Info Extractor? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 An Excel-97 macro (written by Robin Saccuzzo, not me) is available that will do this. E-mail me off-list if you'd like a copy. Tom Thiersch At 09:48 AM 5/1/98 -0500, you wrote: > > Does anyone have a tool which would produce a data file similar to > Compose's Fill Document Information from either a directory full of > documents or an Acrobat index? > > I need to modify the info fields for several hundred documents, and > since the changes are similar for each doc, it'd be easy to do in a > database environment, painful to do to each doc individually. The doc > info fields were set on a per-doc process, so there is no > already-built info file. > > Any suggestions? > > Joel Finkle > G.D. Searle >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 16:27:16-GMT,2738;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00235 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:27:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02393; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:17:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 11:10:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02089; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:10:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Batch Document Info Extractor? Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 11:13:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Joe, In the next couple of weeks a beta version of PDFWorkshop will be available for download from: > > > Round Table Solutions > > > http://www.roundtable.com.au/ PDFWorkshop is a set up Excel 97 macros that allow you to extract and update the Document Info, print, merge, and much more. Robin -----Original Message----- From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com [SMTP:JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com] Sent: Friday, May 01, 1998 9:48 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Batch Document Info Extractor? Does anyone have a tool which would produce a data file similar to Compose's Fill Document Information from either a directory full of documents or an Acrobat index? I need to modify the info fields for several hundred documents, and since the changes are similar for each doc, it'd be easy to do in a database environment, painful to do to each doc individually. The doc info fields were set on a per-doc process, so there is no already-built info file. Any suggestions? Joel Finkle G.D. Searle +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 17:50:42-GMT,1889;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02436 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:50:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA06082; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:30:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 12:26:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05841; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:25:59 -0500 Message-ID: <703027BDE4A0D11181BA00001C002AC001E324@KATYA.scantype.com> From: Michael To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Need a re-paginator (page numberer) that works. Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:26:17 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA05838 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tried Compose's re-paginator but it produces page numbers on the left side of landscaped pages in a mixed landscape and portrait PDF. Anyone know of an alternative tool or approach? Thank you. * ---------------------------------------------------- * Michael Brunson ScanType Corporation * +1 (760) 438-5125 FAX:+1 (760) 438-4956 * "Services for the electronic,WEB,and paper Publisher" * mbrunson@scantype.com http://www.scantype.com  +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 18:52:34-GMT,2405;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03914 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:52:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08658; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:24:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 13:20:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08483; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:20:55 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3548BB44.61B4F30D@kiwi.futuris.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 14:21:34 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting Pictures or Text Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Gary, It's been a long time since I have spoken to you! Things are going >well. Am working on a very interesting Acrobat project that you might find >intriguing. Also will be putting out some fairly nice looking sites using >PageMill. Check out the one at http://www.matrixmoves.com/index.htm. PM is a >pretty decent app. Now to my question. Is there anything out there that >produces kosher html from PDF. Please don't ask as to why this client wants >to do this but they do. If you know of anything, that would be terrific. > >Take care. Hi Bob: Yeah, PageMill does a good wormanlike job. The Iceni Genus plugin is the best I've seen so far. http://www.iceni.com You might also try Forte (www.bcl-computers.com) for dragging PDF content over to PageMill (Win only so far). Or Redwing. But I think Genus is the best overall batching application. -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 18:52:45-GMT,1749;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03920 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:52:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09484; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:44:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 13:40:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09307; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:40:14 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271C70FC@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing PDFs to an Epson Stylus Color 800 Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 13:33:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have this weird problem printing PDFs to my Epson Stylus Color 800 printer. When printing PDFs that are more than one page, the first page prints, and all subsequent pages print lines and some graphic elements. If a print a page at a time, I can print an entire document. Any ideas? I'm running Acrobat Exchange under Windows NT 4.0. Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 19:27:26-GMT,1510;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04812 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:27:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA10293; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:03:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 13:59:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10084; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:59:23 -0500 From: ME Woolsey Message-ID: <1156e43.354a1b79@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 14:59:04 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing PDFs to an Epson Stylus Color 800 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I print from WIN95 (P200MMX) to an Epson 800 without much difficulty. I have had difficulty previously, though, with other printers. Reducing the print quality in Acrobat is said to help, but I was never able to be convinced of this. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 19:30:17-GMT,1897;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04883 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:30:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11017; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:16:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 14:12:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10795; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:12:30 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199804280256.VAA16720@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 15:13:13 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Corporate/Govt Adoptors (was number of users) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>Excuse me for butting in, but could you tell me who is scanning the documents >>for the tobacco litigation. > >'Fraid not. It's just something mentioned in passing at a meeting we had >with Adobe reps here; I don't even have the reps' names. > >Gary from Adobe, you have any more info? Sorry, don't know. An excellent link page to Full-Text Government Documents, a great number of which are in PDF, is http://www.clark.net/pub/lschank/web/govpubs.html This page is definitely worth a look! Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 19:31:06-GMT,2308;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04917 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 13:31:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11196; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:19:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 14:15:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10991; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:15:45 -0500 X-Sender: larryk@pop3.netmeister.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 12:14:42 -0700 To: davisson@emuni.com From: Larry Klug Subject: [PDF] RE: PDFs on the Web Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David, Thanks for your response. I checked out the site at emuni.com and I like the way the navigation buttons are embedded in the PDF files - it is a simple and elegant solution. I am involved in a wholesale parts catalog project involving PDF files. It looks like I will need to separate out the pages to minimize download time. I was trying to write a navigation bar outside of the document in a separate frame with javaScript, but it got really complicated. Assuming you were involved in the emuni.com project, may I ask a few questions? Why didn't you use a base URL instead of a complete URL for the links (just curious). Did you use some sort of utility program to automate the process of inserting the navigation bar in each page? Do you know of a simple way to add global search capabilities acroos PDF files on the WEB? Is there a way to use Acrobat catalog indexes in a web page? Thanks again Larry - - - - - - - - - - - - Lawrence Associates Multimedia Design and Programming larryk@netmeister.net - - - - - - - - - - - - +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-May-1998 22:04:27-GMT,1635;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08870 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:04:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18070; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:43:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 16:39:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17784; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:39:15 -0500 Message-ID: <354A4126.E5C6499B@look-and-feel.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 16:39:50 -0500 From: Michael Scott Organization: look and feel new media X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfDigest Subject: [PDF] HTML to PDF conversion? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I am tring to write a program that will take an HTML page and convert it to a PDF on the fly using either C++ or Perl. If there is an SDK that adobe sells and hands out, I would appreciate any information. 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Many subscribing addresses are gateways to multiple recipients at corporate and educational LANs. == ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - => PDF lists: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html => PDFzone EXTRA: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 0:06:28-GMT,1994;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11438 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:06:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA22834; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:38:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 18:33:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22581; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:33:00 -0500 Message-ID: <354A5C4F.3E3D@vegasnet.net> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 16:35:43 -0700 From: David Pancoast X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Need a re-paginator (page numberer) that works. References: <703027BDE4A0D11181BA00001C002AC001E324@KATYA.scantype.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 <> I use Compose' re-paginator, and have encountered similar 'problems'. I believe you will find that Compose is placing the pagination in relation to original orientation of the pages. That is, some of your pages were scanned in portrait and rotated to landscape. Work around: Use SaveAs and optimize (not Save)to 're-set' the file. ("Re-set" is not a term of art. I have just observed that this method works to cure a variety of ills caused by multiple changes to the original file.) I hope this is of some help to you. David Pancoast Las Vegas, NV ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 0:10:56-GMT,2742;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11540 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:10:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA23725; Fri, 1 May 1998 19:01:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 18:57:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23514; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:57:34 -0500 Message-ID: <354A612A.D39A8E1@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 19:56:27 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting Pictures or Text References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA23511 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks for the info. When will Acro 4.0 be coming out for us beta testers. Enquiring minds would like to know. Gary Cosimini wrote: > > > Hi Bob: > > Yeah, PageMill does a good wormanlike job. > > The Iceni Genus plugin is the best I've seen so far. > > http://www.iceni.com > > You might also try Forte (www.bcl-computers.com) for dragging PDF content > over to PageMill (Win only so far). Or Redwing. But I think Genus is the > best overall batching application. > > -------------------------- > Gary Cosimini > Adobe Systems Incorporated > 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor > New York, NY 10017 > Reception (212) 446-3800 > Fax (212) 446-3802 > Email gcosimin@adobe.com > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 0:14:03-GMT,3822;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11599 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:14:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24006; Fri, 1 May 1998 19:07:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 19:04:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23852; Fri, 1 May 1998 19:04:24 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03F651@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'mscott@look-and-feel.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] HTML to PDF conversion? Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 10:00:30 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Michael, Disregarding the new PDF Library [announced 28 April - too recent for me to have digested its contents], I would suggest that you could use the Internet Explorer SDK, and the Acrobat SDK to produce an application which loads HTML and then prints to ".ps", and calls the Distiller to convert. This is obviously not as effective and robust as a application which can produce PDF directly, however it is a start and quite easy to put together. In more detail I am suggesting that you create a simple application which uses the Internet Explorer ActiveX control. You can then set the URL of this browser to the HTML page you wish to convert [whether this be a file based URL or http]. By calling the print method and specifying your ps file printer [or distiller assistant if you like] you can produce your postscript. By using a WinExec or CreateProcess call you can start the distiller. Sending a windows message to the distiller will allow you to create a pdf [giving you control over the destination filename]. This method is somewhat loosely coupled and may not be suited to the 'real-time' application which you have described. As you have subscribed to the PDF digest you may not have received the message from Gary Staas which announced the new Adobe PDF Library [which may be more help than I have been]. See http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk/libraries.html to learn more about the new Adobe PDF Library. I hope that this is of assistance to you. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - Are you an Acrobuddy? http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Scott [mailto:mscott@look-and-feel.com] > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 1998 7:40 AM > To: pdfDigest > Subject: [PDF] HTML to PDF conversion? > > > > Hello, > > I am tring to write a program that will take an HTML page and > convert it > > to a PDF on the fly using either C++ or Perl. If there is an SDK that > adobe sells and hands out, I would appreciate any information. > > > Michael Scott > ############################## > mscott@look-and-feel.com > Programer / Analyst > > > +------------------------------------------------------------- > -----------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > + > > +------------------------------------------------------------- > -----------+ > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 0:22:03-GMT,2406;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11767 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:22:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24174; Fri, 1 May 1998 19:11:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 19:08:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24030; Fri, 1 May 1998 19:08:08 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03F652@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing PDFs to an Epson Stylus Color 800 Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 10:04:59 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Kenny, You may like to ensure that you are using the latest version of Acrobat Exchange [that is, 3.01]. Version 3.0 had a number of problems related to printing which were corrected. Obviously it will take you some time to receive an upgrade if you do not already have. Perhaps you might try downloading the reader version first to confirm my suspicions. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - Double sided printing today, download RTSDuplex! http://www.roundtable.com.au > From: Schiff, Kenny [mailto:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 1998 4:34 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Printing PDFs to an Epson Stylus Color 800 > > I have this weird problem printing PDFs to my Epson Stylus Color 800 > printer. When printing PDFs that are more than one page, the > first page > prints, and all subsequent pages print lines and some graphic > elements. > If a print a page at a time, I can print an entire document. > Any ideas? > I'm running Acrobat Exchange under Windows NT 4.0. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 1:24:30-GMT,2689;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12918 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 19:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA26119; Fri, 1 May 1998 20:04:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 20:00:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25960; Fri, 1 May 1998 20:00:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 18:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199805020100.SAA21087@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 2:32:10-GMT,1479;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14147 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 20:32:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA28573; Fri, 1 May 1998 21:09:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 May 1998 21:03:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28312; Fri, 1 May 1998 21:03:54 -0500 From: wenj@ms13.hinet.net Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 10:02:24 +0800 (CST) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] any search engine to deal with the PDF in Chinese characters In-Reply-To: <199805020100.SAA21087@sun630mp.infomania.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I just wonder there is any search engine that will be able to deal with the Chinese (two bytes) characters pdf files. Thanks in advance Best Regards, Josephw Wen ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 7:42:23-GMT,2233;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07823 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 01:42:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA05137; Sat, 2 May 1998 02:27:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 02:20:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA04943; Sat, 2 May 1998 02:20:29 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD75AB.74076120.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] HTML to PDF conversion? Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 02:57:08 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, there's a PERL script that does the job - html2ps. It outputs PS which you then just distill and you're off. You can find it via by searching for "html2ps". Jernej On Friday, May 01, 1998 11:40 PM, Michael Scott [SMTP:mscott@look-and-feel.com] wrote: > > Hello, > > I am tring to write a program that will take an HTML page and convert it > > to a PDF on the fly using either C++ or Perl. If there is an SDK that > adobe sells and hands out, I would appreciate any information. > > > Michael Scott > ############################## > mscott@look-and-feel.com > Programer / Analyst > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 9:10:53-GMT,2937;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11921 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 03:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA07475; Sat, 2 May 1998 03:56:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 03:52:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA07358; Sat, 2 May 1998 03:52:12 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Need a re-paginator (page numberer) that works. Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 09:55:22 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd75a8$0af18d80$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <703027BDE4A0D11181BA00001C002AC001E324@KATYA.scantype.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDFfusion will make all your dreams come true :-) Check out our web site at www.docctrl.com. Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Michael > Sent: 01 May 1998 18:26 > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Need a re-paginator (page numberer) that works. > > > > Tried Compose's re-paginator but it produces page numbers on the left > side of landscaped pages in a mixed landscape and portrait PDF. > Anyone know of an alternative tool or approach? > Thank you. > > * ---------------------------------------------------- > * Michael Brunson ScanType Corporation > * +1 (760) 438-5125 FAX:+1 (760) 438-4956 > * "Services for the electronic,WEB,and paper Publisher" > * mbrunson@scantype.com http://www.scantype.com  > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 12:51:23-GMT,2667;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16708 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 06:51:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA13003; Sat, 2 May 1998 07:34:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 07:28:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12827; Sat, 2 May 1998 07:28:28 -0500 From: "Michael R. Cessna" Organization: Cessna Publishing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 07:28:34 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch Document Info Extractor? CC: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com In-reply-to: <199805011509.KAA31534@everglades.binc.net> Message-ID: <19980502122823.AAA15140@ns1.win.net.win.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Joel, I'd be glad to knock together a freebie tool to generate a csv file similar to Compose's. How about one that creates the following fields: "c:\yourdir\your.pdf", "Title", "Subject", "Author", "Keywords" Also, there are quite a few other info fields, "Creator", etc. Tell you what, I'll throw together a utility that allows you to select what fields you want extracted...and leave it up to you to choose which ones you want. I'll let everyone on the list know where it can be downloaded when I'm done...I should have it by early next week. This will be a 32 bit Windows app, for use with Exchange. Is there anything else you would like this simple utility to do? Regards, Michael Cessna Cessna Publishing > Does anyone have a tool which would produce a data file similar to > Compose's Fill Document Information from either a directory full of > documents or an Acrobat index? > > I need to modify the info fields for several hundred documents, and > since the changes are similar for each doc, it'd be easy to do in a > database environment, painful to do to each doc individually. The doc > info fields were set on a per-doc process, so there is no > already-built info file. > > Any suggestions? > > Joel Finkle > G.D. Searle ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 14:09:37-GMT,2654;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18472 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 08:09:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA15117; Sat, 2 May 1998 08:51:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 08:45:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14974; Sat, 2 May 1998 08:45:56 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E03F696@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Batch Document Info Extractor? Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 23:42:49 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Joel, You may like to drop by our site [http://www.roundtable.com.au/] and check out the beta version of PDFWorkshop [which we have just released]. Unfortunately this is not a free "code cut", but we do believe the program may be useful to you and has other features worth looking at. PDFWorkshop [originally Extract It!] is designed to collect the DocumentInfo (Title, Subject, Author, Keywords) along with the page count total and the page mode selected for display (page, page+thumbnails or page+bookmarks) from PDF files. This pdf management program also allows you to perform operations in a batch mode, such as printing [to ".ps" or to a printer], merging, and updating the document info. We are now working on the next release which extends the program to do the following: * Auto-installs the PDFWorkshop printer * Batch optimising and thumbnailing Extend the spreadsheet interface to include : * Optimised, and filesize * Security - both the ability to set/reset passwords and to set each property [ie. printing, changing, adding, editing] * SplitPDF - code that splits a PDF into its separate pages * Merge with page numbers -> code that merges pages from particular PDFs into one-file regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 16:21:05-GMT,3634;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21710 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 10:21:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19183; Sat, 2 May 1998 11:05:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 10:58:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18858; Sat, 2 May 1998 10:58:33 -0500 Message-ID: <703027BDE4A0D11181BA00001C002AC001E330@KATYA.scantype.com> From: Michael To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Need a re-paginator (page numberer) that works. Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 08:59:09 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA18855 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You mean Compose is not the only show in town? :) * ---------------------------------------------------- * Michael Brunson ScanType Corporation * +1 (760) 438-5125 FAX:+1 (760) 438-4956 * "Services for the electronic,WEB,and paper Publisher" * mbrunson@scantype.com http://www.scantype.com  -----Original Message----- From: David Cornwell [mailto:davec@docctrl.com] Sent: Saturday, May 02, 1998 1:55 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Need a re-paginator (page numberer) that works. PDFfusion will make all your dreams come true :-) Check out our web site at www.docctrl.com. Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Michael > Sent: 01 May 1998 18:26 > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Need a re-paginator (page numberer) that works. > > > > Tried Compose's re-paginator but it produces page numbers on the left > side of landscaped pages in a mixed landscape and portrait PDF. > Anyone know of an alternative tool or approach? > Thank you. > > * ---------------------------------------------------- > * Michael Brunson ScanType Corporation > * +1 (760) 438-5125 FAX:+1 (760) 438-4956 > * "Services for the electronic,WEB,and paper Publisher" > * mbrunson@scantype.com http://www.scantype.com  > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 16:21:05-GMT,3113;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21711 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 10:21:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19184; Sat, 2 May 1998 11:05:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 10:57:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18774; Sat, 2 May 1998 10:57:43 -0500 Message-ID: <703027BDE4A0D11181BA00001C002AC001E32F@KATYA.scantype.com> From: Michael To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Need a re-paginator (page numberer) that works. Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 08:58:08 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA18771 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks Dave. I will play with that and see how it goes. Actually, these files are all from electronic source and no rotation was applied. Of course, the original application is "rotating" to get the landscaped document out of the "printer" on portrait oriented paper stock.............. * ---------------------------------------------------- * Michael Brunson ScanType Corporation * +1 (760) 438-5125 FAX:+1 (760) 438-4956 * "Services for the electronic,WEB,and paper Publisher" * mbrunson@scantype.com http://www.scantype.com  -----Original Message----- From: David Pancoast [mailto:dpancoa@vegasnet.net] Sent: Friday, May 01, 1998 4:36 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Need a re-paginator (page numberer) that works. <> I use Compose' re-paginator, and have encountered similar 'problems'. I believe you will find that Compose is placing the pagination in relation to original orientation of the pages. That is, some of your pages were scanned in portrait and rotated to landscape. Work around: Use SaveAs and optimize (not Save)to 're-set' the file. ("Re-set" is not a term of art. I have just observed that this method works to cure a variety of ills caused by multiple changes to the original file.) I hope this is of some help to you. David Pancoast Las Vegas, NV ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 16:22:48-GMT,1880;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21776 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 10:22:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19518; Sat, 2 May 1998 11:13:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 11:09:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19346; Sat, 2 May 1998 11:09:35 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Need a re-paginator (page numberer) that works. Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 09:16:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bd75e4$898f38e0$18f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <703027BDE4A0D11181BA00001C002AC001E324@KATYA.scantype.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Tried Compose's re-paginator but it produces page numbers on the left > side of landscaped pages in a mixed landscape and portrait PDF. > Anyone know of an alternative tool or approach? > Thank you. > Quite Imposing Plus (www.quite.com) is a very different tool from Compose but it happens to overlap on this specific function, and doesn't suffer from the same problem. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 17:58:08-GMT,1572;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24220 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 11:57:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22393; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:39:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 12:34:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22239; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:34:35 -0500 Message-ID: <354B4ADA.671B@btl.net> Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 11:33:30 -0500 From: Paul Stevenson Organization: Special F-X X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF'S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to all who offered advice and assistance with creating PDF's from PageMaker 6.0; If it helps anyone for future reference, I re-installed Win 95, PM6 and Distiller from scratch; seems it was a PPD thing. Problem solved. Many thanks for your time, I am very grateful for that. Bye from sunny San Ignacio, Paul ~:-D ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 21:06:24-GMT,2733;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28951 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:06:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA27445; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:39:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 15:34:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27279; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:34:14 -0500 From: Naomiwrite Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 16:33:59 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 regarding the following: "We are trying to create a searchable (i.e. Normal) PDF from an Interleaf 6 document that resides on a Unix. This document contains the fonts 'Swiss' and 'Thames'. We converted the document into postscript using an HP 4V ps driver and then distilled it. The file distills normally with NO errors. However, it isn't searchable - it's been made image-only." My experience with PDFs in on Windows 95. However, this may apply to your situation: Almost hidden in one of the "read-me" or technical note files from Adobe, it says that you must use PostScript fonts in order for a document to be searchable. In Windows 95, there is a way around this -- you can re-define the font substitution table for the printer that is being used to create the PDF. You can map each of your fonts to a PostScript font. Of course, this means you must buy fonts with a very similar look to your current fonts, otherwise the PDF may not look like your original. And use PostScript fonts for all future documents to avoid this problem. This means buying Adobe Type Manager and some PostScript font packages, but thankfully they are not as expensive as they used to be. "Type Basics" from Adobe was about $90 for a bunch of different type faces, and it was delivered the next day. I spoke to a tech support guy at Adobe who says that TrueType fonts, for some reason, ARE searchable when the PDF is created by a Mac system, but Adobe can't explain why. Hope this helps. Good luck. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 21:13:28-GMT,1563;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29115 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:13:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28269; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:05:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 16:02:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28127; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:02:02 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199805020100.SAA21087@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 17:02:38 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] any search engine to deal with the PDF in Chinese characters Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Hi, > >I just wonder there is any search engine that will be able to deal with >the Chinese (two bytes) characters pdf files. > Acrobat is not 2-byte yet! Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 22:02:54-GMT,2266;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00482 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:02:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA29718; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:51:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 16:47:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29561; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:47:48 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 17:52:05 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have found the largest drawback to Acrobat is the lack of a suitable technical manual. Their reliance on the CD-ROM tutorials and online help is short-sited. Not everyone is comfortable sorting through this unindexed maze, or not having the ability to cross index various components that any application requires. Sure this is a plausible alternative, but should be supported with printed documentation as well. I can still remember opening the box and thinking the mauals weren't packaged. I actually inquired about this. I'm not very impressed with ADOBE's technical support which stems from the fact that they are the only game in town. Promises that never materialize. I wish that Quark would get their act together and compete. IBM, BELL Canada, Ontario Hydro had the same approach to customer service in the past. Look what they had to go through to recover some of their prestige (OK some haven't recovered yet, but that's my point). Yes, I'm from Canada...Instutionalized hell. Do I smell an opportunity? Anybody listening? Murray ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-May-1998 21:45:07-GMT,3336;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29912 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:45:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28840; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:23:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 16:19:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28703; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:19:48 -0500 From: Naomiwrite Message-ID: <7e818bac.354b8de5@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 17:19:32 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Re: the following "We are two students at the division of Media Technology and Graphic Arts at the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm. We are currently working on a report about PDF. What we would like to know is what this forum believes is the major limits and possibilities of the format today. There are many contradictions in the debate and we find it difficult to identify the real major problems of the format." These problems may be more trivial than what you were looking for. They did, in fact, cause a delay of at least one month in document preparation. Here are some drawbacks I have encountered. I am using PageMaker 6.5 on a Windows 95 system for layout of technical documents. When I need to put a table or diagram in the document, I use Visio and Adobe Table. Both of these objects are inserted into PageMaker using the "Insert Object" menu selection, which activates the OLE server. I use Adobe Table because the format characteristics of Microsoft Excel tables don't drop into PageMaker properly. Each cell has lines around it no matter how I set up the format in Excel. I needed to create landscape report mock-ups. I chose Visio to re-create the reports because Visio seemed to provide a clearer image in the end PDF than scans. Only later did I find that the characters (in the typeface Courier) distorted, even when the PostScript font was used. I upgraded to Visio version 5, which lessened but did not eliminate the distortion. I think part of the problem is that Adobe's promotional materials for PDF give the user the impression that creating a PDF is very simple. Unless the source document is simply text, the creation process requires detailed technical knowledge about the compatibility of all programs used to create the source. Setting up the printer and the Adobe printer driver is not terribly complicated, but it must be done perfectly. Adobe Acrobat is an excellent product. However, Adobe would be better off if they stressed the sophistication and capabilities, but were more realistic about the level of understanding needed to produce the end result. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-May-1998 1:50:11-GMT,5751;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05736 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 19:50:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA02631; Sat, 2 May 1998 20:23:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 20:18:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02499; Sat, 2 May 1998 20:18:25 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980503011846.00d7366c@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 18:18:46 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 So, what's your complaint about PDF? Nothing in your message shows that you found any PDF-related problems. As for some of your other, non-PDF issues: >I use Adobe Table because the format characteristics of Microsoft Excel tables >don't drop into PageMaker properly. Each cell has lines around it no matter >how I set up the format in Excel. Open the table in Excel, choose Tools>Options, and turn off "Gridlines". OR - don't bother with OLE at all, just PLACE the table into your PM document. >I needed to create landscape report mock-ups. I chose Visio to re-create the >reports because Visio seemed to provide a clearer image in the end PDF than >scans. Only later did I find that the characters (in the typeface Courier) >distorted, even when the PostScript font was used. I upgraded to Visio version >5, which lessened but did not eliminate the distortion. These sure sound like Visio problems to me -- why not just export from PM65 to PDF? This will use Distiller, and will allow you to totally control all output options, including page orientation, and should give you perfect typeface output as long as you use Type 1 fonts. You're complaining about poor results, when the actual cause is the way that you used the products. Sure, you have to invest the time to learn the tools, but that seem to be the common problem with all software these days. There are so many features and capabilities (aka "feature bloat") that it takes a lot of effort to learn to use the products effectively. "It's a poor workman who blames his tools". >I think part of the problem is that Adobe's promotional materials for PDF give >the user the impression that creating a PDF is very simple. Creating PDF output for simple documents really *is* simple; creating PDF for more complex documents just requires more study of the finer points of the output tools: i.e., the Distiller. Try again, don't get discouraged, and ask for help earlier in the process (before you've wasted another month). Tom Thiersch At 05:19 PM 5/2/98 EDT, you wrote: > >Re: the following > >"We are two students at the division of Media Technology and Graphic Arts at >the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm. We are currently working on >a report about PDF. >What we would like to know is what this forum believes is the major limits >and possibilities of the format today. There are many contradictions in the >debate and we find it difficult to identify the real major problems of the >format." > >These problems may be more trivial than what you were looking for. They did, >in fact, cause a delay of at least one month in document preparation. > >Here are some drawbacks I have encountered. > >I am using PageMaker 6.5 on a Windows 95 system for layout of technical >documents. When I need to put a table or diagram in the document, I use Visio >and Adobe Table. > >Both of these objects are inserted into PageMaker using the "Insert Object" >menu selection, which activates the OLE server. > >I use Adobe Table because the format characteristics of Microsoft Excel tables >don't drop into PageMaker properly. Each cell has lines around it no matter >how I set up the format in Excel. > >I needed to create landscape report mock-ups. I chose Visio to re-create the >reports because Visio seemed to provide a clearer image in the end PDF than >scans. Only later did I find that the characters (in the typeface Courier) >distorted, even when the PostScript font was used. I upgraded to Visio version >5, which lessened but did not eliminate the distortion. > >I think part of the problem is that Adobe's promotional materials for PDF give >the user the impression that creating a PDF is very simple. Unless the source >document is simply text, the creation process requires detailed technical >knowledge about the compatibility of all programs used to create the source. >Setting up the printer and the Adobe printer driver is not terribly >complicated, but it must be done perfectly. > >Adobe Acrobat is an excellent product. However, Adobe would be better off if >they stressed the sophistication and capabilities, but were more realistic >about the level of understanding needed to produce the end result. >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-May-1998 2:25:17-GMT,2514;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06423 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 20:25:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA03924; Sat, 2 May 1998 21:06:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 21:00:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03704; Sat, 2 May 1998 21:00:54 -0500 Message-ID: <354BD066.648285F2@ionet.net> Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 21:03:18 -0500 From: Richard Durrer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Murray McCombs wrote: > I have found the largest drawback to Acrobat is the lack of a suitable > technical manual. Hear, Hear! I must agree with this. I read another letter which basically blames the people for not spending the time to know their tools. Well if a properly made manual was part of this fairly expensive product, people could learn the tools much quicker and in a much more effective manner. I'm a Product manager for an automotive company. I have been very much a proponent for using technology to solve business problems. Therefore I have been stuck with doing all the stuff that a corporate IT dept. should do but won't do due to their lack of enthusiasium in embracing methods that don't require big iron and the religous priesthood of programmers to maintain it. I don't have the time to dick around and play with software like I did 8 years ago and get all the work done in my "real" job. For me to keep pushing technology as a way to enhance productivity, I need the manual with on-line help to supplement my learning curve. Bit of a rant, but this touched a nerve. Software is becoming more powerful and less intuitive, while the supporting materials are vanishing in nearly all products. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-May-1998 3:44:44-GMT,2138;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07805 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 21:44:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA06139; Sat, 2 May 1998 22:20:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 22:16:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05975; Sat, 2 May 1998 22:16:12 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 23:20:29 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Further thoughts and comments: > I have found the largest drawback to Acrobat is the lack of a suitable > technical manual. Having said all that, I have successfully enabled my Acrobat application and can create simple PDFs. The frustrating thing about this application, is that I'm intuitively glimpsing the power of presentation with this program. (ie. QT embeded links, on-line viewing, and third party Adobe plug-ins (ie interactive mapping to GIS databases with Avenza). The only place to find out about PDF capabilities, is right here on this list. I'm saving every question and comment and trying to organize a retrieval system for later references. Has anyone used JAMbuddy (Avenza plugin) and PDF files? Supposedly allows interactivity with Adobe Illustrator PDFs on the web through the webrowser (Netscape 3.0 or Explorer 3.0) to pop-up vector-activated tables and datasets. Thanks to all Murray McCombs ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-May-1998 3:54:56-GMT,1832;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07966 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 21:54:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA06921; Sat, 2 May 1998 22:48:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 May 1998 22:45:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA06795; Sat, 2 May 1998 22:45:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199805030344.WAA05200@smtp2.mailsrvcs.net> X-Sender: rradtke@207.115.153.18 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 23:40:46 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Robert Radtke Subject: [PDF] Printing PDFs to an Epson Stylus Color 800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have the same problem printing to an Epson Stylus Color 800. The first page of the PDF is fine and then only graphic elements print from that point on. I am running Windows NT 4.0 and it is the latest drivers from Epson. I'm intersted to hear others are having the same problem. I am also using Acrobat 3.01. And printing the same PDF from a 95 workstation to the Epson Stylus Color 800 on the NT server works fine. I didn't have the problem on the Epson Stylus Color printer that I replaced with the 800. Robert Radtke Radtke Consulting ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-May-1998 9:17:49-GMT,2848;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03855 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 03:17:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA14730; Sun, 3 May 1998 03:57:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 May 1998 03:52:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14600; Sun, 3 May 1998 03:52:05 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 08:56:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01bd7670$93ba0b60$18f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > I have found the largest drawback to Acrobat is the lack of a suitable > technical manual. > > Their reliance on the CD-ROM tutorials and online help is > short-sighted. Here's another take on this. Increasingly, PDF is being used by software (and hardware) manufacturers all over the world to provide online manuals instead of paper-based ones. You can argue that this is good (saves paper, weight, easier to find manual) or bad (people aren't good at reading online manuals, or print them out anyway wasting more paper) or even irrelevant (everyone wants a manual but nobody ever reads it). But how would it be if Adobe Acrobat, the seed of all of this, included paper manuals? What sort of message would it send about confidence in their own product for its intended purpose? One of the biggest problems I see is people who are aware of the online help and have glanced at it and dismissed it - then bombard online groups with questions answered in it. A common complaint is that the documentation is superficial and has nothing in it. This is because people confuse a simple presentation with a superficial coverage; the documents are actually pretty comprehensive about using the tools (less so about problem solving). I don't know if the getting started document includes setting up Acrobat Search to use the cross-index to PDF documentation. This is how I always use it. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-May-1998 19:48:05-GMT,3882;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16492 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 13:48:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29412; Sun, 3 May 1998 13:41:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 May 1998 13:32:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29091; Sun, 3 May 1998 13:32:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.16.19980503202507.3ccf5b20@pop1.ibm.net> X-Sender: badai@pop1.ibm.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (16) Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 20:25:07 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Marcello Stanley Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF >> Acrobat Manual to Document MGMT In-Reply-To: <000e01bd7670$93ba0b60$18f682c1@gateway> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >You can argue that this is good (saves paper, weight, easier to find >manual) or bad (people aren't good at reading online manuals, or >print them out anyway wasting more paper) or even irrelevant (everyone >wants a manual but nobody ever reads it). Yes. i couldn't agree more with this. I think people want problem solver, not a manual. And why people wont use or read online document is since it is actually printed document format distilled directly to an online format. Not a really electronic document. Aint it the nature of PDF? _portable document_? not _self formating format_ that can achieve high readability in every medium? With a book I can open three chapter, mark it with my fingers, and all while looking at my problem on the screen and solve it. I still cant do this efficiently with PDF. or most of help files. etc. screen redraw still slows down at times, and there is not much examples. etc. etc. Microsoft Office and its Assistants trying to do this, and usable enough but not enough to make it good. Shortly, is it still not thoroughly integrated into the computer system so people can work and learn at the same time. (and i guess this is not what acrobat want to achieve) >I don't know if the getting started document includes setting up >Acrobat Search to use the cross-index to PDF documentation. This is >how I always use it. I guess what they also need is a paragraph of how to use the tool in twenty word or less =) I guess people got to know the concept of Acrobat and its difference as a file format (PDF) and as a tool. But then again, this also happens to the rest of software world. In the end, i still think current Adobe Acrobat need a printed manual. in the long run, i can imagine Acrobat transform into a complete set of document management application. Maybe Acrobat Personal Edition, Acrobat Professional Edition, and Acrobat Enterprise (or even maybe Acrobat TotalDocument-DB :) Or something that can integrate document into the workspace (or desktop)... it maybe can intercept calls from appllications and documents alike (like HTML) and link it through anything? or is this part of PDF/HTML/SGML debate? :) or maybe some document management or knowledge management software or platform to do this? Regards, Marcello S. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 0:00:01-GMT,1920;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22659 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 18:00:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05026; Sun, 3 May 1998 18:36:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 May 1998 18:31:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04850; Sun, 3 May 1998 18:31:24 -0500 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199805020100.SAA21087@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 19:32:16 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] any search engine to deal with the PDF in Chinese characters Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>I just wonder there is any search engine that will be able to deal with >>the Chinese (two bytes) characters pdf files. > > >Acrobat is not 2-byte yet! Whoops: undo. Acrobat-J is two byte, as my colleagues instantly reminded me. I am really in need of a vacation. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 8:48:19-GMT,6775;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA25589 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 02:48:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA19541; Mon, 4 May 1998 03:26:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 03:21:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19369; Mon, 4 May 1998 03:21:06 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 01:27:18 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <08252079621778@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Here is my two cents on what has been said on this subject. > >I use Adobe Table because the format characteristics of Microsoft Excel tables > >don't drop into PageMaker properly. Each cell has lines around it no matter > >how I set up the format in Excel. > > Open the table in Excel, choose Tools>Options, and turn off "Gridlines". > OR - don't bother with OLE at all, just PLACE the table into your PM document. I had a table that I just could not make work properly with Adobe Table. It was the only landscape thing in a portrait publication. The cells had text in them that needed to wrap within the cells. I do not recall all the problems. What I do recall is that I was not converging on a solution within a reasonable amount of time. Instead, I entered the text and lines into PageMaker 6.5 directly. It took about the same amount of time that I spent on Adobe Table but it worked. My impression is that Adobe Table is a primitive tool that needs more work. A bit later in the same project, I had a large Excel spreadsheet to import. It had a structure similar to an organization chart where there was text in the cells and the borders were used as lines to connect the text. Gridlines on or off will not resolve the problems here. The import filter is just plain deficient. It does not know how to import important parts of an Excel spreadsheet. It is much easier to discover that PageMaker has an import filter for Excel than it is to discover that the filter considers borders to be unnecessary and ignores them. I converted the Excel spreadsheet to Word files by selecting columns and discarding formatting. These columns were then imported into PageMaker columns and the lines were drawn manually. This has the correct appearance but it has the disadvantage that the text and the lines are not associated so adding a line of text will destroy the synchronization with lines below that point in the same column. It got the job done but not as well as if the Excel import filter worked as one would reasonably expect. > > I have found the largest drawback to Acrobat is the lack of a suitable > > technical manual. > > > > Their reliance on the CD-ROM tutorials and online help is > > short-sighted. > > Here's another take on this. > > Increasingly, PDF is being used by software (and hardware) manufacturers > all over the world to provide online manuals instead of paper-based > ones. > > You can argue that this is good (saves paper, weight, easier to find > manual) or bad (people aren't good at reading online manuals, or > print them out anyway wasting more paper) or even irrelevant (everyone > wants a manual but nobody ever reads it). > > But how would it be if Adobe Acrobat, the seed of all of this, > included paper manuals? What sort of message would it send about > confidence in their own product for its intended purpose? Actually it would send the message that Adobe understands human factors. When you are seeking solutions to a problem with a product or selecting a product from among many, putting the information you seek on a screen is great. When you are trying to learn a product or reading a large amount of text, putting the text on a screen is an annoyance. A screen does not have the resolution and contrast of the printed page. It is very tiring to read a book online. A book is easy to take with you when you head for the kitchen, bathroom, bedroom, or doctor's office. Not everyone has portables and the screens of portables are not as good as CRT technology for reading large amounts of text. So manuals need to be either very short, used for reference only (so the amount read is short) or printed. > One of the biggest problems I see is people who are aware of the online > help and have glanced at it and dismissed it - then bombard online > groups with questions answered in it. A common complaint is that > the documentation is superficial and has nothing in it. This is > because people confuse a simple presentation with a superficial > coverage; the documents are actually pretty comprehensive about using > the tools (less so about problem solving). I already addressed one reason why people dismiss online documentation. Here is another big reason. In many documents the author confuses information with data. Information is useful. Data has the potential to be useful if it is properly organized and accessible. In my opinion, Adobe is especially bad about putting up error messages on your screen and making them difficult to translate them into how to fix the problem. For example, the Adobe products I use have many dialog boxes where help is disabled. When you discover you need help, you cannot get to it. If you back out far enough to get to help, you no longer see on the screen what you needed help on. Thus you cannot easily look up the words in the error message or GUI widget title. Printed matter does not suffer this problem. When you write these messages or titles down (doesn't that tell you something about state of the art) to look them up later, you often find the topic you want uses different topic names in the index than in the GUI interface. Sometimes, you are not able to guess what Adobe chose to call the topic. Comprehensive documents must be accessible or their information might as well not exist. This problem is not unique to Adobe. The ability to produce a good index is a talent more people should master and more companies should employ. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 8:52:28-GMT,5832;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA25748 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 02:52:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA20018; Mon, 4 May 1998 03:41:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 03:38:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19881; Mon, 4 May 1998 03:38:18 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412565FA.00349EBD.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 10:37:19 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Tracie, We got a similar Problem with TTF fonts which are not correctly embedded in the PS file. Unfortunately there is no better way to embed it. Using a PS-font seems to be the only workaround. This can be done by Adobe's Type Manager. Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) tdevoe@lsijax.com on 27.04.98 17:06:36 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: Re: Antwort: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts It's a completely unreadable mess....We've tried 'embedding all fonts' and 'subsetting fonts' at 100% or 99% or 1% and even taking off 'embedding'. Nothing seems to work. I can find the 'swiss' font in the postscript file so that may not be the problem. I think it's 'Thames' that's causing the trouble since I don't see it in the postscript file - just a font 'dutch'. Yet when I looked at the pdf file produced (when using 'embed all fonts' ) it showed that all fonts were embedded - we received no errors - just unrecognizable text as far as searching/bookmarks/ etc.. If I knew how to read the postscript file better, I would substitute out the problem font. If you have any clues for me, I'd appreciate it!! Thanks, Tracie DeVoe Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote: > Hi Tracie, > > When you mark the text and do a copy&paste to an ASCII > aditor... > Is there any text? > Is it the correct one? > Or a completly unreadable mess? > > Regards, > Laura Dietz > (Mannesmann Arcor) > > tdevoe@lsijax.com on 21.04.98 16:05:08 > > Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) > Thema: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts > > We are trying to create a searchable (i.e. Normal) PDF from an > Interleaf 6 document that resides on a Unix. This document > contains the fonts 'Swiss' and 'Thames'. We converted the > document into postscript using an HP 4V ps driver and then > distilled it. The file distills normally with NO errors. > However, it isn't searchable - it's been made image-only. > We've tried embedding all fonts with the same results - NO > errors > and NOT searchable. I have access to a Windows platform that > is > also loaded with Adobe Acrobat (both Exchange, etc. and > Capture) > but I don't have the required fonts on this machine. I have > been > focusing on the 'font' as causing the problem but if I'm > missing > something obvious, please help. If there are any suggestions, > I'd appreciate them. > I've browsed the archives and Aandi, you once mentioned to > someone else on a font problem that they might be able to > change > the font in the postscript file. I would like to avoid this > option if possible since it's necessary for the PDF and the > printed output (printed from Interleaf) match. We could > change > the fonts in Interleaf but that would require much more time > than > we have to modify illustrations/page breaks/etc... (it's a > technical manual). If my last option is to change the font in > the postscript file, how do I go about it? I've opened it up > in > a text editor, but do I just change the tag '/PSOwstswissb' and > > what do I change it to? I am not very familiar with Distiller, > > nor PS, so any info would help (if it's basic - good, just > email > directly to me). > Thanks, > Tracie DeVoe > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Tracie DeVoe > Logistic Services International > 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 > Elizabeth City, NC 27909 > PH#: (252) 335-6239 > FAX: (252) 335-6463 > email: tdevoe@lsijax.com > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > +---------------------------------------- > -------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 9:33:54-GMT,3358;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26505 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 03:33:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA20996; Mon, 4 May 1998 04:16:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 04:12:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20870; Mon, 4 May 1998 04:12:40 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412565FA.0037C293.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 11:11:50 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi! Do you know another way to redefine the font substitution table than using ATM? Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) Naomiwrite@aol.com on 02.05.98 21:33:59 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts regarding the following: "We are trying to create a searchable (i.e. Normal) PDF from an Interleaf 6 document that resides on a Unix. This document contains the fonts 'Swiss' and 'Thames'. We converted the document into postscript using an HP 4V ps driver and then distilled it. The file distills normally with NO errors. However, it isn't searchable - it's been made image-only." My experience with PDFs in on Windows 95. However, this may apply to your situation: Almost hidden in one of the "read-me" or technical note files from Adobe, it says that you must use PostScript fonts in order for a document to be searchable. In Windows 95, there is a way around this -- you can re-define the font substitution table for the printer that is being used to create the PDF. You can map each of your fonts to a PostScript font. Of course, this means you must buy fonts with a very similar look to your current fonts, otherwise the PDF may not look like your original. And use PostScript fonts for all future documents to avoid this problem. This means buying Adobe Type Manager and some PostScript font packages, but thankfully they are not as expensive as they used to be. "Type Basics" from Adobe was about $90 for a bunch of different type faces, and it was delivered the next day. I spoke to a tech support guy at Adobe who says that TrueType fonts, for some reason, ARE searchable when the PDF is created by a Mac system, but Adobe can't explain why. Hope this helps. Good luck. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 11:02:26-GMT,1996;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28566 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 05:02:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA22960; Mon, 4 May 1998 05:41:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 05:36:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22822; Mon, 4 May 1998 05:36:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD7758.D4C2B740@pC19F3337.dip.t-online.de> To: "'PDF-List'" Subject: AW: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 12:31:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0211682900-0001@t-online.de From: tm_consult@t-online.de (Thomas Mueller) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Laura, take a look at printer, properties, font, font substitution table, if you mean Truetype to PostScript-Font. Regards + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Thomas Mueller Author and Consultant for Digital Communication P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html ---------- Von: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Gesendet: Montag, 4. Mai 1998 12:12 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Hi! Do you know another way to redefine the font substitution table than using ATM? Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 11:46:52-GMT,1939;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29562 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 05:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA24044; Mon, 4 May 1998 06:24:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 06:20:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23953; Mon, 4 May 1998 06:20:32 -0500 From: baruch@mercury.co.il X-Lotus-Fromdomain: MERCURY_IL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 14:19:32 +0300 Subject: [PDF] Catalog: problems after adding buttons (forms) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a set of pdf files for which I successfully created a search index using Catalog. I then added navigation buttons to the pdf files! Now I get the following error message when I try to rebuild the search index: FILENAME.PDF: Page 1 had an error. FILENAME.PDF: Page 2 had an error. File FILENAME.PDF had 2 consecutive pages with errors - ending with page 2; the rest of the file will be skipped. I get a similar error message for each file in the set. There are 5 navigation buttons that I added to every page using the forms feature in Exchange. I am using Acrobat 3.01 on Windows 95. Does anyone have any solutions to this problem? Many thanks, Baruch Benatar baruch@mercury.co.il ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 13:16:27-GMT,4431;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02197 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 07:16:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA27046; Mon, 4 May 1998 07:53:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 07:49:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26803; Mon, 4 May 1998 07:49:06 -0500 Message-ID: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073D11CED@exchptc1.switch.com> From: "Huston, Virgil H." To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 08:48:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Well, I hope these manual writers do a better job than Adobe does. The reason that people ask questions about things that are in the Adode online manuals is because they can't find it in the manual. Adobe's manuals are virtually useless, both online AND printed out. Searching is like a crap shoot and there isn't even a Table of Contents with page number references. I love Acrobat, but I don't have time to spend hours reading every thing in the hopes that we will find it. I have pretty much stopped asking questions on these lists because I've been chastised for not reading the documentation or being otherwise dense. I have it printed out and in binders and I still can't find anything. It is very poorly done. One thing that the programmers in the group must remember is that there are two basic groups: 1) very technically oriented with programming skills - this group has little trouble with PDF, and 2) the user, who is using Acrobat and probably 10 other applications as part of their jobs - these are writers who are converting their work to PDF, etc. - PDF is a relatively small part of their job. Programmers, as usual, don't understand that people in group 2 often don't have the time to spend hours studying the nuances of every program they use and they shouldn't have to. Adobe's propaganda sure makes it all sound easy. Excuse the rant, but this and a couple of other posts hit a nerve this morning. Virgil > > > > I have found the largest drawback to Acrobat is the lack of a suitable > > technical manual. > > > > Their reliance on the CD-ROM tutorials and online help is > > short-sighted. > > Here's another take on this. > > Increasingly, PDF is being used by software (and hardware) manufacturers > all over the world to provide online manuals instead of paper-based > ones. > > You can argue that this is good (saves paper, weight, easier to find > manual) or bad (people aren't good at reading online manuals, or > print them out anyway wasting more paper) or even irrelevant (everyone > wants a manual but nobody ever reads it). > > But how would it be if Adobe Acrobat, the seed of all of this, > included paper manuals? What sort of message would it send about > confidence in their own product for its intended purpose? > > > One of the biggest problems I see is people who are aware of the online > help and have glanced at it and dismissed it - then bombard online > groups with questions answered in it. A common complaint is that > the documentation is superficial and has nothing in it. This is > because people confuse a simple presentation with a superficial > coverage; the documents are actually pretty comprehensive about using > the tools (less so about problem solving). > > I don't know if the getting started document includes setting up > Acrobat Search to use the cross-index to PDF documentation. This is > how I always use it. > > Aandi > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 13:20:07-GMT,2945;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02331 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 07:20:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA27753; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:09:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 08:06:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27574; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:06:12 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412565FA.004CC4ED.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 15:05:20 +0100 Subject: Antwort: AW: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi I did *not* want to know where to substitute the fonts The question is, is there an alternative to generate a printer font which i can substitute a TTF font with? Situation: I got an PS-Font similar to my TTF font Now i want the PSfont to appear in the fontssubstitution table (printer->propertiers->font->font substitution table ->printer font for...) is there an alternative besides buying a 90$ ATM license for EACH exchange user? Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) tm_consult@t-online.de on 04.05.98 11:31:21 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: AW: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Laura, take a look at printer, properties, font, font substitution table, if you mean Truetype to PostScript-Font. Regards + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Thomas Mueller Author and Consultant for Digital Communication P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html ---------- Von: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Gesendet: Montag, 4. Mai 1998 12:12 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Hi! Do you know another way to redefine the font substitution table than using ATM? Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 14:00:38-GMT,2778;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03611 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:00:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA29322; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:41:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 08:37:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29181; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:37:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980504064034.007c5100@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 06:40:34 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF >> Acrobat Manual to Document MGMT In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.16.19980503202507.3ccf5b20@pop1.ibm.net> References: <000e01bd7670$93ba0b60$18f682c1@gateway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Regarding the below opinions, I agree that it is easier to look at a hard copy and at your screen at the same time. And you also mention that you'd like to see a printed manual. For the past year and half I have done almost nothing but learn the innerworkings of PDF and to solve this problem of wanting a printed manual, I printed out the chapter I frequently use from the Portable Document Reference Manual, and the pdfmark Reference Manual. I've found that having this one printed chapter (60pgs) and the pdfmark Reference Manual (54 pgs) and then using the other documentation online are MUCH easier to carry around than the entire Portable Document Reference Manual (400pgs). --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- At 08:25 PM 5/3/98, Marcello Stanley wrote: > >With a book I can open three chapter, mark it with my fingers, and all >while looking at my problem on the screen and solve it. >I still cant do this efficiently with PDF. or most of help files. etc. >screen redraw still slows down at times, and there is not much examples. > >In the end, i still think current Adobe Acrobat need a printed manual. > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 14:19:17-GMT,1898;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04274 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:19:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA30342; Mon, 4 May 1998 09:04:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 09:00:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30137; Mon, 4 May 1998 09:00:29 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD7743.F8F100A0@NET PC.WPAFB.AF.MIL> From: "Scott M. Albright" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PitStop 1.5 Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 10:04:04 -0700 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For those of you who use PitStop v1.5... I am having serious trouble adding text to a page. I can select a font, select the Add Text icon and type something on the page. Once that icon is deselected, the text disappears and I cannot find it anymore. I would like to align the text to where I need it to be, but it won't happen. I can save the page and what work I think I've done, but the text is not there. I've even done this on a blank page. Has anyone else experienced this?? TIA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC) AF PDSM Program Office TO Conversion Operation (TOCO) (937) 257-3085 ext380 E-mail: albrigs@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 15:31:21-GMT,2716;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06594 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 09:31:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA32727; Mon, 4 May 1998 09:57:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 09:53:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32547; Mon, 4 May 1998 09:53:45 -0500 Message-ID: <354DD6D2.766CB38A@glyphica.com> Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 07:55:15 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PitStop 1.5 References: <01BD7743.F8F100A0@NET PC.WPAFB.AF.MIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Have you tried zooming out and checking the periphery of the page space? Deidre ........................................ Glyphica Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com ........................................ Scott M. Albright wrote: > For those of you who use PitStop v1.5... > > I am having serious trouble adding text to a page. > > I can select a font, select the Add Text icon and type something on the > page. Once that icon is deselected, the text disappears and I cannot find > it anymore. > > I would like to align the text to where I need it to be, but it won't > happen. > > I can save the page and what work I think I've done, but the text is not > there. I've even done this on a blank page. > > Has anyone else experienced this?? > > TIA > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------------------------- > Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC) > AF PDSM Program Office > TO Conversion Operation (TOCO) > (937) 257-3085 ext380 > E-mail: albrigs@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 15:41:02-GMT,6799;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06883 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 09:41:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01455; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:26:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 10:21:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01196; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:21:51 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD774F.553377C0@NET PC.WPAFB.AF.MIL> From: "Scott M. Albright" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PitStop 1.5 Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 11:25:23 -0700 X-MS-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have... when I zoom out, sometimes the text is in a strange area of the page, but then I cannot highlight it so I can move it where it is needed. ----- Have you tried zooming out and checking the periphery of the page space? Deidre ....................................... Glyphica Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com ....................................... Scott M. Albright wrote: > For those of you who use PitStop v1.5... > > I am having serious trouble adding text to a page. > > I can select a font, select the Add Text icon and type something on the > page. Once that icon is deselected, the text disappears and I cannot find > it anymore. > > I would like to align the text to where I need it to be, but it won't > happen. > > I can save the page and what work I think I've done, but the text is not > there. I've even done this on a blank page. > > Has anyone else experienced this?? > > TIA > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------------------------- > Scott M. 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Probably someone can help. Tom + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Thomas Mueller Author and Consultant for Digital Communication P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html ---------- Von: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Gesendet: Montag, 4. Mai 1998 16:05 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: Antwort: AW: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Hi I did *not* want to know where to substitute the fonts The question is, is there an alternative to generate a printer font which i can substitute a TTF font with? Situation: I got an PS-Font similar to my TTF font Now i want the PSfont to appear in the fontssubstitution table (printer->propertiers->font->font substitution table ->printer font for...) is there an alternative besides buying a 90$ ATM license for EACH exchange user? Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 17:24:06-GMT,1745;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09580 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 11:24:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04800; Mon, 4 May 1998 11:41:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 11:37:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04648; Mon, 4 May 1998 11:37:30 -0500 X-Sender: quartet@pop.wanadoo.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.3 Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 18:39:39 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: quartet@wanadoo.fr (Eric Wannin) Subject: RE: [PDF] PitStop 1.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Scott, Have you tried the last release 1.51 of PitStop, some problems have been fixed in this upgrade. You can download it at www.enfocus.com. ================================================== Eric Wannin - Sales & Marketing Manager Quartet Systems Saint Veran 84220 Goult France Tel : 04 90 72 48 48 - Tel Intl : 33 4 90 72 48 48 Fax : 04 90 72 42 80 - Fax Intl : 33 4 90 72 42 80 E.mail : quartet@wanadoo.fr WEB : finishing construction, coming very soon. ================================================== ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 20:21:56-GMT,8851;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15097 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 14:21:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12170; Mon, 4 May 1998 14:51:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 14:40:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11738; Mon, 4 May 1998 14:40:57 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 12:41:56 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19445659322323@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Well, I hope these manual writers do a better job than Adobe does. The > reason that people ask questions about things that are in the Adode online > manuals is because they can't find it in the manual. Adobe's manuals are > virtually useless, both online AND printed out. Searching is like a crap > shoot and there isn't even a Table of Contents with page number references. > I love Acrobat, but I don't have time to spend hours reading every thing in > the hopes that we will find it. I have pretty much stopped asking questions > on these lists because I've been chastised for not reading the documentation > or being otherwise dense. I have it printed out and in binders and I still > can't find anything. It is very poorly done. One thing that the programmers > in the group must remember is that there are two basic groups: 1) very > technically oriented with programming skills - this group has little trouble > with PDF, and 2) the user, who is using Acrobat and probably 10 other > applications as part of their jobs - these are writers who are converting > their work to PDF, etc. - PDF is a relatively small part of their job. > Programmers, as usual, don't understand that people in group 2 often don't > have the time to spend hours studying the nuances of every program they use > and they shouldn't have to. Adobe's propaganda sure makes it all sound easy. > Excuse the rant, but this and a couple of other posts hit a nerve this > morning. Virgil, I am a programmer so you will hear the other side of the story. First I would like to say that IMHO you have oversimplified the problem but your characterization of programmers (while not as universal as you imply) is far too often true. A large part of the problem is that many programmers do not have applications exposure. It is surprising what 3 to 6 months working in the applications area will teach you. I have been programming for 30 years and consulting for 20 of those years. I like to believe that my exposure and experience gives me a leg up on the competition; but I am always learning new things to put into my little black bag of tricks. Product design involves many skills from marketing to technical documentation. Programming is but one of those. Programming should be involved in the other stages of product development but it is important for programmers to wear the right hats (have the proper goals in mind) when participating in these other areas. That includes a lot of customer empathy and can be done best with lots of exposure to customers. Before just blasting featuritis, however, it is important to consider that you are not the only user of the product. There is a lot of tradeoff in a good product design. The costs of product development are high and must be spread over a large number of users. Defining the target market is critical to success. Too narrow and revenue will suffer. Too wide and development cost and time to market will suffer. You represent one class of user who wants to sit down and be productive right away. There are design features that can help you do this. Then there are the users that want absolute control over the process. That often conflicts with what you want. For many products, the majority of users migrate from wanting to use the product quickly to wanting to use the product powerfully. While some design features meet all needs, others favor one at the expense of another. Several things help make a product suitable for the class of customer that you represent. These include automatic installation, good context sensitive help that explains both concepts and mechanics, documentation broken into bite sized chunks with good indexing and entries for alternate names (in case you use different names for things), making the most common activities easily found on the menus with simple mouse and keyboard alternatives, and settings that default to what a customer would want if they did not know that the setting existed. Online help is probably the most beneficial and often botched feature that a new or infrequent user needs. Here is an example from the publishing arena. PageMaker from Adobe is considered (by some) to be the premier desktop publishing application. It is appropriate for publishing a catalog for an upcoming art exhibition or a book. It has the versatility to create a wide variety of publications. Here you can match colors, control layout, etc. i publish from Design Intelligence is considered (by some) to be the desktop publishing application that is easiest to learn. You can create a newsletter or brochure without learning about color, type, layout, printing, etc. You just pick from pre-designed layouts and substitute your text and pictures. The point here is that some people are satisfied with a fax cover sheet that looks a lot like a Microsoft Word template and others want to create a carefully crafted image. Fine craftsmanship takes practice. You can either hire skilled professionals or take the time to acquire the knowledge and learn the tools. To be a carpenter, you need more than a hammer. To be a publisher you need more than desktop publishing software. It is always tricky to select tools that appear to be suitable for both purposes. You should understand that for high end use, there will be a learning curve, despite anything a company may claim. Complex problems require consideration of many complex issues and you cannot make decisions about such matters without the background to understand the issues and a tool with enough complexity to resolve them. This requires dealing with a lot of detail. High end products with broad problem domains rarely have sufficient artificial intelligence to effectively eliminate the learning curve. I think the real problem here is marketing. They are responsible for creating the demand for the product. When you wear that hat, you not only must create a marketing campaign and set pricing, but you also must define the target market, understand the market needs, and establish the product features to meet the needs of the target market. Then programmers turn those features into design and software. I agree that many programmers have a mindset that works in detail. They would be useless at producing software if they were deficient in this area. However, if they are defining the product without marketing input and oversight, then it is of little surprise that the product fails to meet customer needs and looks like it was designed by someone with a mindset for detail. That is just a natural consequence of that methodology. Producing a simple to use product is not a simple process. Good solutions require good understanding of the problem. Oversimplified explanations of the development process will not produce the desired result. To implement a good solution usually requires that it filter down from the top and that ear often feels threatened or is not listening. One of the big advantages of being a consultant is that when a client pays big bucks to get advice, they tend to listen to it. The same advice coming from inside is ignored. In fact, the further I travel to see a client and the more I charge, the more they listen and the more benefit they get because they listen. The world is strange in that way. So, now you have the view from the other side of the fence. Since you like things simple and in a nutshell, I am certain I have provided more than you ever wanted to know and took more of your time than you wanted to spend. I hope you find some value in this. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 21:42:22-GMT,1864;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18609 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:42:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA14508; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:49:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 15:45:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14303; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:45:50 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Print to file w/script Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 14:46:39 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1317829297-62118930@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can someone direct me to a resource of AppleScript commands to configure page setup and print dialog settings within AppleScripts? I don't even know if a lot of commands exits, but I'd like to see what there is to work with. If AS is a dead end for print commands, how about Frontier? I'd like to automate FileMaker printing various reports to watched folders at regular intervals. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 21:44:45-GMT,2355;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18634 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:44:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA13852; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:35:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 15:31:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13682; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:31:10 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:29:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bd779b$692dfe20$74f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073D11CED@exchptc1.switch.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You have some good points. I'd agree that the manual is completely useless if printed out; it is designed as an interactive tool. Page number indexes etc. are based on a linear model which these documents don't follow. The key things needed to use it are a knowledge of how to use Search (not Find); and a basic knowledge of the terms. If the getting started documentation doesn't give that (and I don't know if it does; like most others, I haven't read it), then that is a design fault. Aandi > > Well, I hope these manual writers do a better job than Adobe does. The > reason that people ask questions about things that are in the > Adode online > manuals is because they can't find it in the manual. Adobe's > manuals are > virtually useless, both online AND printed out. Searching is > like a crap > shoot and there isn't even a Table of Contents with page > number references. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 0:16:47-GMT,2325;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22385 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 18:16:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19938; Mon, 4 May 1998 18:18:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 18:14:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19765; Mon, 4 May 1998 18:14:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] HTML to PDF conversion? Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 00:11:21 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01bd77b2$37037760$74f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199805041802_MC2-3BE2-EC10@compuserve.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > > Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >Hello, > > I am tring to write a program that will take an HTML page and > convert it > > to a PDF on the fly using either C++ or Perl. If there is an SDK that > adobe sells and hands out, I would appreciate any information. > You can read about the SDK on Adobe's web site; it is included on the 3.01 CDROM. Support is available to members of the Adobe Developers Association (ADA) only ($400/year). The SDK allows you to automate Acrobat products - e.g. PDFWriter and Distiller, but mainly Exchange. It does not provide other tools for PDF creation. A new PDF library may offer this. You can get an overview from the web site, but it's only available to ADA members. Deploying it would seem to cost $5000 minimum, probably a fair price as it could harm the sales of Acrobat products. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 0:19:10-GMT,2626;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22435 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 18:19:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19995; Mon, 4 May 1998 18:19:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 18:16:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19861; Mon, 4 May 1998 18:16:24 -0500 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 17:16:17 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] HTML to PDF conversion? Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jonathan West writes on Mon, 4 May 1998 18:02:28 -0400: >> I am tring to write a program that will take an HTML page and convert it >> to a PDF on the fly using either C++ or Perl. You may want to take a look at html2ps, available (at least on 8-Jan-1998) at http://www.tdb.uu.se/~jan/html2ps.html Other possibilities include batch control of a browser (if any support that feature) to save an HTML document in PostScript form, followed by a batch run of Adobe distill or Aladdin ps2pdf to convert it to PDF. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 23:11:52-GMT,2152;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20816 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:11:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17611; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:12:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 May 1998 17:08:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17387; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:08:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 18:02:28 -0400 From: Jonathan West Subject: [PDF] HTML to PDF conversion? To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199805041802_MC2-3BE2-EC10@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA17384 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Hello, I am tring to write a program that will take an HTML page and convert it to a PDF on the fly using either C++ or Perl. If there is an SDK that adobe sells and hands out, I would appreciate any information. Michael Scott ############################## mscott@look-and-feel.com Programer / Analyst< Hi michael, You don't say whether or not you want the converted PDF file to have the hyperlinks & other navigation features active. If you do, then you may be interested in MultiLinker, which amongst other things, takes batches of HTML files, and produces Distiller-ready Postscript of the files, complete with all the hyperlinks. Runs under Word 95 or 97. Regards Jonathan West http://www.multilinker.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-May-1998 23:16:21-GMT,2010;000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20948; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:16:16 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07546; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:16:17 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 17:16:17 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] HTML to PDF conversion? Message-ID: Jonathan West writes on Mon, 4 May 1998 18:02:28 -0400: >> I am tring to write a program that will take an HTML page and convert it >> to a PDF on the fly using either C++ or Perl. You may want to take a look at html2ps, available (at least on 8-Jan-1998) at http://www.tdb.uu.se/~jan/html2ps.html Other possibilities include batch control of a browser (if any support that feature) to save an HTML document in PostScript form, followed by a batch run of Adobe distill or Aladdin ps2pdf to convert it to PDF. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 7:49:49-GMT,1813;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA20322 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 01:49:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA01176; Tue, 5 May 1998 02:32:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 02:27:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00950; Tue, 5 May 1998 02:27:15 -0500 Message-ID: <354EBF70.B799E91E@munich.netsurf.de> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:27:45 +0200 From: Richard Urquhart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Image enhancement software, e.g. PixEdit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear list members, I am very much interested in your assessment of image enhancement software such as PixEdit or ScanFix. I have an evaluation copy of PixEdit 4.0 and it seems this has most of the necessary functions. Are there similar or better products on the market to import TIFF images and then have them enhanced either for storing as Image Only, conversion to Normal PDF, or to pass on to OCR/ICR applications. Kind regards Richard Urquhart VERUM STATICON office: ru@verum.de home: Richard.Urquhart@munich.netsurf.de ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 8:41:16-GMT,2596;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22943 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 02:41:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA02722; Tue, 5 May 1998 03:25:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 03:21:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02592; Tue, 5 May 1998 03:21:26 -0500 From: "Gabriel Radic" To: "PDF (E-mail)" Cc: "Adrian Pop (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] PDF files with Eastern European characters Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 11:23:25 +0300 Message-ID: <000a01bd77ff$173bc200$397be2c1@roxette.agora.ro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I'm Gabriel Radic, from Romania. I have an archive of 59 issues of three magazines containing Eastern European characters. When I open the files in Acrobat Exchange 3.01 under Windows 98 beta 3, the bookmarks show badly: with a weird character at the beginning and spaces between every other two characters. This doesn't occurs under Acrobat Reader 3.0 on the same system. Other systems using the same Acrobat versions but different Windows OS (95 OSR 2, 98) don't get the weirdness. A similar error shows in the search results for these files. This one occurs in every version of Windows 9x and only on the documents with the character (Alt+0226) in Document Info. Some plug-ins (Aerial from Ambia Corp.) only show the weird character (Alt+0254) in all the Document Info fields containing Eastern European characters. I have a zip file (624KB) with two documents. Only a few pages and an index of these files are there. You can find it at: http://www.agora.ro/temp/pdf_test.zip Is this a known issue of Acrobat? Is it OS specific? Please reply privately. Thanks in advance! Peace! Gabriel RADIC ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 15:24:36-GMT,2739;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04795 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:24:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15036; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:04:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 09:55:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14628; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:55:47 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E0448EA@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Image enhancement software, e.g. PixEdit Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 00:52:38 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Richard, You may like to try RTSImport for importing TIFFs. It sequences a batch import using the import image plugin. We have an evaluation version on our site. http://www.roundtable.com.au/ - click on plugins regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Urquhart [mailto:Richard.Urquhart@munich.netsurf.de] > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 5:28 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Image enhancement software, e.g. PixEdit > > > > Dear list members, > I am very much interested in your assessment of image enhancement > software such as PixEdit or ScanFix. I have an evaluation copy of > PixEdit 4.0 and it seems this has most of the necessary functions. Are > there similar or better products on the market to import TIFF > images and > then have them enhanced either for storing as Image Only, > conversion to > Normal PDF, or to pass on to OCR/ICR applications. > > Kind regards > > Richard Urquhart > VERUM STATICON > office: ru@verum.de > home: Richard.Urquhart@munich.netsurf.de > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 15:24:50-GMT,3075;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04799 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:24:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15028; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:04:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 09:50:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14431; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:50:42 -0500 Message-Id: <354F272D.7636C536@moen.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:50:21 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Forms, CGI -> new window, Acrobat plug-in vs. helper References: <000a01bd77ff$173bc200$397be2c1@roxette.agora.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I have a web application for viewing PDFs of engineering drawings. This works best with the Adobe Reader installed as a helper app, instead of as a plug-in, simply because this allows the user to easily have two drawings up at the same time, side by side, with out losing the search page from which they submitted the request to view the drawing. Installing the Reader this way is not a good option for us, though, because we are going to be using PDF forms soon. 1) I'm not sure if pdf forms will even work with Adobe installed as a helper. Will they? 2) I can't find a way to press a button in an html form and have the output of the CGI script come up in a new window. Is there a way to do this? 3) Can I install both the plug-in and the helper app? In other words, can I define a different MIME type and send my drawings back to the browser to call the helper app, while the normal click on a .pdf file would call the plug-in? 4) Are there any other options open to me? In case it's important, the cgi, if successful in retrieving the requested file, sends back a "Location: http://pdf_url\n\n" to the browser. If the retrieval fails, appropriate error messages go back to the browser as standard HTML. Thanks! Jennifer Amon -- _______________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2000 ext. 2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _______________________________________________________________________ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 15:45:02-GMT,1899;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05369 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:45:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA16096; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:31:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 10:27:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15915; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:27:14 -0500 Message-ID: <354F30A3.CE06FBE9@intranetsol.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:30:43 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Forms, CGI -> new window, Acrobat plug-in vs. helper References: <000a01bd77ff$173bc200$397be2c1@roxette.agora.ro> <354F272D.7636C536@moen.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jennifer Amon wrote: > > 2) I can't find a way to press a button in an html > form and have the output of the CGI script come up in a > new window. Is there a way to do this? set the target property of your form to some name like "newWindow" or whatever. This will cause the returning HTML to be displayed in a new window called "newWindow". -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 16:36:36-GMT,2665;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06880 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:36:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA17889; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:17:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 11:11:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17652; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:11:40 -0500 Message-ID: <354F3A1F.4769EE5B@aip.org> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 12:11:11 -0400 From: "Chris McMahon" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Catalog: problems after adding buttons (forms) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Baruch, I have run into this same problem. I believe that there is a "memory leak" in the distiller application. I was able to work around this problem by building the index in increments, and closing/restarting the application before each incremental build. Hope this helps - Chris baruch@mercury.co.il wrote: > > I have a set of pdf files for which I successfully created a search index > using Catalog. > I then added navigation buttons to the pdf files! > Now I get the following error message when I try to rebuild the search > index: > > FILENAME.PDF: Page 1 had an error. > FILENAME.PDF: Page 2 had an error. > File FILENAME.PDF had 2 consecutive pages with errors - ending with page 2; > the rest of the file will be skipped. > > I get a similar error message for each file in the set. > > There are 5 navigation buttons that I added to every page using the forms > feature in Exchange. > I am using Acrobat 3.01 on Windows 95. > > Does anyone have any solutions to this problem? > > Many thanks, > Baruch Benatar > baruch@mercury.co.il > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 17:29:40-GMT,1915;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08455 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:29:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20063; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:08:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 12:04:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19761; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:04:38 -0500 From: "David Pancoast" To: "Capture List (Emerge)" , Subject: [PDF] Repaginating PDF Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 10:06:02 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bd7848$155c7080$ab7f93d0@dpancoa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a number of pdf's which were scanned from double-sided originals. The scanner was not set to duplex and this caused the pages to be out-of-order. The originals do have page numbers; they are just out of sequence. My question: Does anyone know of a method (other than shuffling thumbnails) for correcting this situation? My assistant is a very patient, lovely woman. But, frankly, I think she's ready to shoot me for this one! Thanks, David Pancoast ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 18:04:24-GMT,2073;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09470 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:04:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA21540; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:43:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 12:39:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21326; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:38:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Repaginating PDF Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 18:35:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bd784c$87a49600$d3f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000201bd7848$155c7080$ab7f93d0@dpancoa> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I have a number of pdf's which were scanned from double-sided > originals. > The scanner was not set to duplex and this caused the pages to be > out-of-order. The originals do have page numbers; they are > just out of > sequence. My question: Does anyone know of a method (other > than shuffling > thumbnails) for correcting this situation? My assistant is a > very patient, > lovely woman. But, frankly, I think she's ready to shoot me > for this one! Quite Imposing (my software, http://www.quite.com/imposing/) allows two PDF documents to be merged, treating them as the sources of even and odd pages. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 19:54:48-GMT,3405;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12130 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 13:54:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26136; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:29:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 14:23:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25907; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:23:52 -0500 Message-ID: <354F5CBB.B8467711@net.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 11:38:51 -0700 From: Tom Regner Organization: N.E.T. http://www.net.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There seems to be a general concensus that Adobe's decision to provide PDF documentation exclusively online is a mistake. I have been struggling with PDF for two years, on and off, and although I was given the entire help file printed out and stuck in three-ring binders, I can say that after trying to use it once, I never tried it again. Someone further up in the discussion suggested that Adobe needs to be more in touch with the human factor (and thank you for saying it, whoever you are). There are things that Adobe documents fairly well, and there are things that are so difficult to find that I might require dental work from grinding my teeth so hard. As a technical writer for twenty years, I have found that there are three critical factors in producing documentation: 1. Organization. Make information easy to find. 2. Clarity. Once found, make it useful. 3. Thoroughness. If a feature is worth adding to the product, it is worth explaining what it is for and how it works. With some products, Adobe delivers on two of the three. With Acrobat, you are lucky if they manage one of the three. Such ponderous PDF help files, with no index or TOC, is amateurish on Adobe's part and painful for the end user. The implementation also flies in the face of those who DO wish to print it out, since it is in a non-standard format that most office or home printers aren't set up to handle, resulting in a lot of wasted paper. Talk about counter-promotional for Acrobat! As much as I like the product and as much time and effort as I've gone through to promote and evangelize its benefits, the fact remains that Adobe simply HAS to do something about the sorry state of documentation as it exists today. I find it somewhat sobering that I learned more about the capabilities of PDF from THIS forum than from Adobe itself. In fact, I learned so much that I produced a graphics-rich, button-laden version of my resume in PDF and sent it to them. If they're like most other Silicon Valley firms, I should get a response about six months after I submitted it. :o) -- Tom Regner ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 20:42:07-GMT,3042;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13344 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:42:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28179; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:17:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 15:07:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27768; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:07:42 -0500 Message-ID: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073D53695@exchptc1.switch.com> From: "Huston, Virgil H." To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 16:07:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom, You said what I tried to say much better than did I. Thanks. Let me make one further point. There appears to be a general feeling that PDF documents are for online viewing only. I disagree, and herein lies the rub. I use PDF to make available paper and digital service manuals to users via netwoeks and CD ROM's. This allows me to use Quark Express, which no one else has and reduces file sizes, among other things. I'd say that 80% of the users print out the manual. Most people don't have a PC at their workbench or out on a railroad switching interlocking. So, I design documents for a hard copy audience, which is still usable on a screen. But, this distribution is very cost effective and many customers really like it. I second your comment on where you learned about PDF. If I hadn't stumbled on this list, I am not sure what would have happened. Thanks to all you experts who have taught me so much. If anybody wants to work on producing a decent Acrobat manual and has a publisher, let me know. I may have trouble with PDF, but I do know how to write. Then, I would really learn something. Virgil > > I find it somewhat sobering that I learned more > about the capabilities of PDF from THIS forum > than from Adobe itself. In fact, I learned so much > that I produced a graphics-rich, button-laden > version of my resume in PDF and sent it to them. > If they're like most other Silicon Valley firms, I > should get a response about six months after I > submitted it. :o) > > -- Tom Regner > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 20:57:05-GMT,2760;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13681 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:57:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA29265; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:44:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 15:36:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28937; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:36:34 -0500 Message-ID: <354F783A.10F91627@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:36:10 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF References: <354F5CBB.B8467711@net.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom Regner wrote: > > There seems to be a general consensus that Adobe's > decision to provide PDF documentation exclusively > online is a mistake. Although I do think you make some good points in your post about the documentation, I think those are generally true of most software providers and Adobe is by no means the worst; in fact, they are better than average in my experience. So I wouldn't agree that there is consensus on the issue. Or, at least I disagree with the consensus. (Is that consensus?) The pdfmark reference manual, for one, is an incredibly valuable resource. I also think the Distiller documentation covers the operation of Distiller in greater detail than any of us could reasonably expect. The fact that these internals are documented, much less available in current versions on the web is a big plus for me and something I'm grateful to have. Often it is the case that Acrobat-related difficulties stem from OS-sourced problems such as printer drivers, font subsystems, etc. that make the *interaction* between other poorly-designed systems and Acrobat difficult. Maybe documentation along these lines for the folks that need it would make the overall Acrobat experience more positive. Furthermore, I don't want, nor do I want to pay the production and distribution costs for, a printed manual. There's a saying in the UNIX community: "you can't grep [search] a dead tree". Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 21:21:21-GMT,2191;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14352 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:21:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA29995; Tue, 5 May 1998 16:00:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 15:55:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29743; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:55:31 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980505205015.00d7dcd8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 13:50:15 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 So, someone handed you a printed copy of a document that was designed from the start to be used electronically, and yet you think it appropriate to complain about its lack of TOC and Index? Huh? The TOC is in the bookmarks, and the Index's function is embedded in the Search tool. If you use the document in the intended manner, you should have far less to complain about. NOTE: I'm NOT trying to defend the content (or lack thereof) of the documentation; that's an entirely different subject. Tom Thiersch At 11:38 AM 5/5/98 -0700, you wrote: > >There seems to be a general concensus that Adobe's >decision to provide PDF documentation exclusively >online is a mistake. I have been struggling with PDF >for two years, on and off, and although I was given >the entire help file printed out and stuck in three-ring >binders, I can say that after trying to use it once, I >never tried it again. > -cut- > >-- Tom Regner > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 22:08:01-GMT,3452;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15582 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 16:08:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA31936; Tue, 5 May 1998 16:48:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 16:42:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31662; Tue, 5 May 1998 16:42:50 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 22:39:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bd786e$97597580$d3f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <354F5CBB.B8467711@net.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > There seems to be a general concensus that Adobe's > decision to provide PDF documentation exclusively > online is a mistake. I have been struggling with PDF > for two years, on and off, and although I was given > the entire help file printed out and stuck in three-ring > binders, I can say that after trying to use it once, I > never tried it again. Sorry, no consensus here. If you are saying the help file printed out is useless I'd agree. That's like arguing that a photograph of a TV screen is difficult to make out: irrelevant. Indeed the small page size should ring alarm bells. "This doesn't look right when printed" - the reason is that it isn't for printing. > > Someone further up in the discussion suggested that > Adobe needs to be more in touch with the human > factor (and thank you for saying it, whoever you are). > There are things that Adobe documents fairly well, > and there are things that are so difficult to find that > I might require dental work from grinding my teeth > so hard. As a technical writer for twenty years, I > have found that there are three critical factors in > producing documentation: > > 1. Organization. Make information easy to find. > 2. Clarity. Once found, make it useful. > 3. Thoroughness. If a feature is worth adding > to the product, it is worth explaining what it > is for and how it works. > > With some products, Adobe delivers on two of the > three. With Acrobat, you are lucky if they manage > one of the three. Such ponderous PDF help files, > with no index or TOC, is amateurish on Adobe's > part and painful for the end user. I disagree; there is a TOC (the bookmarks) and the index is achieved by Acrobat Search. Both are superior to a cover page. But I would agree with one point: if people are not using these then the basic message is not getting through. The documentation is not great, but it is pretty thorough. If people would take the trouble to look, rather than complain they can't use it. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 23:02:19-GMT,1645;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16914 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:02:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01130; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:42:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 17:37:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00929; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:37:21 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565FB.007B4C60.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 15:33:42 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Page count Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sometime ago I think I saw mentioned where to look for the page count of a PDF file. I think it was in the log file???? I've looked there and can't figure how the page count might be listed. Can someone tell me the syntax (right word?) for the page count - any other ideas? I know that Robin Saccuzzo has developed a macro for Excel 97 that will extract this information, does anyone know of something that will do this in Word or Excel 95? Thanks SueG ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 23:02:24-GMT,3490;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16925 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:02:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01492; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:50:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 17:45:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01293; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:45:11 -0500 From: "David Pancoast" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 15:46:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bd7877$a8cd2560$697f93d0@dpancoa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980505205015.00d7dcd8@env-sol.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It's pretty clear to me you're both right: printing PDF's is like 'watching a radio' and Acrobat Help is too often a waste of time. In my humble opinion, the lacking in AA Help is twofold: 1) The Help generally lacks depth. It assumes that everything will be peachy and no one will want to do something a little different. 2) AA Search is lame. It is essentially a one-word search function. That means unless the word you are looking is for is relatively uncommon, you will get too many hits. I can offer no cure to problem 1. As for problem 2, get something like DTSearch. Regards, David Pancoast -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On Behalf Of Tom Thiersch Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 1:50 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF So, someone handed you a printed copy of a document that was designed from the start to be used electronically, and yet you think it appropriate to complain about its lack of TOC and Index? Huh? The TOC is in the bookmarks, and the Index's function is embedded in the Search tool. If you use the document in the intended manner, you should have far less to complain about. NOTE: I'm NOT trying to defend the content (or lack thereof) of the documentation; that's an entirely different subject. Tom Thiersch At 11:38 AM 5/5/98 -0700, you wrote: > >There seems to be a general concensus that Adobe's >decision to provide PDF documentation exclusively >online is a mistake. I have been struggling with PDF >for two years, on and off, and although I was given >the entire help file printed out and stuck in three-ring >binders, I can say that after trying to use it once, I >never tried it again. > -cut- > >-- Tom Regner > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 23:02:37-GMT,3603;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16939 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:02:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01231; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:44:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 17:39:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01026; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:39:40 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 18:44:03 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: RE: [PDF] Further Thoughts on PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In my immediate scope of like-minded professionals.(ie the Graphic Designers), most have dropped the prospect of using Acrobat PDFs long ago, mainly due to the fact that there was no manual, and time is precious, but I must say here, that they are still using them for resumes. (Thanks to the free Acrobat Readers distributed some years ago and included with some application software). If you want to look like a "dufus", try sending a resume PDF as an email attachment without checking the reciever's email protocol first (ie Mime or Binhex) Most of us do our "Manual reading [sic]" in the usual ubiquitous locations (ie, in transit, lunch hours, smoke breaks, and in the washroom?). Much as been said of the computer programmers "being worked to death" due to a lack of qualified people and an overabundance of work. In the Graphic Design field, this has always been a way of life, and not much was said on our behalf. Designers are at the end of the "Critical Path." Since our "core" job function is to "Design", and we demand an unusual level of good technical copywriting, indexes, and "funcitonal" Application manuals to solve that not-so-obvious solution, I for one, find the hours required to access an on-line manual to find that solution, somewhat obtuse. All of my Adobe manuals for Illutrator/Photoshop, including third party manuals, are post-it-noted to abstraction, but it works for me, and I can have that answer by the time it takes to log-on to a server. Correct me if I'm wrong in my assumptions, but isn't the creation of Acrobat PDF's the major domain of Graphic Designers? If they (Graphic Designers) are dropping further use of PDFs, hasn't Adobe failed? Every Graphic Designer uses some form of pagelayout and imaging software, and most likely the majority are using Adobe products (ie Illustrator, and Photoshop). I'm not a programmer and I accidentally stumbled on this mail list (thanks to the powers that guide us). It's has only been with this lists' suggestions that I have begun exploring the uses of Adobe Acrobat again. I hadn't even registered yet, because the "creative vision" for its use wasn't immediately clear. I had written the purchase off as a lost cause. QuarkImmedia is the only other option to Acrobat. Their presentation of their product is much better, but their distribution and web uses suffer. Cheers Murray McCombs ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 23:18:02-GMT,3600;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17376 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:18:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA02153; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:07:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 18:03:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01930; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:03:01 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <354F272D.7636C536@moen.com> References: <000a01bd77ff$173bc200$397be2c1@roxette.agora.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 00:01:31 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Forms, CGI -> new window, Acrobat plug-in vs. helper Cc: Jennifer Amon Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jennifer, Acrobat Forms do work outside of a web browser. In fact, if you have calculations etc. everything runs faster. The only functions for which you do need to run the Reader under a web browser are Submit functions. Weblink and Mailto work, after you have defined a web browser/e-mail application for the Reader. In order to forcibly transfer the file (instead of viewing it) would be to do a ftp transfer instead of http. You also could try to cause the web browser to open another window with the PDF in it. However, I am not sure how well multiple windows with PDFs in them work. They might be memory hogs. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ________________ >Hi, > >I have a web application for viewing PDFs of engineering drawings. >This works best with the Adobe Reader installed as a helper app, >instead of as a plug-in, simply because this allows the user to >easily have two drawings up at the same time, side by side, with >out losing the search page from which they submitted the request >to view the drawing. > >Installing the Reader this way is not a good option for us, >though, because we are going to be using PDF forms soon. > >1) I'm not sure if pdf forms will even work with Adobe > installed as a helper. Will they? > >2) I can't find a way to press a button in an html > form and have the output of the CGI script come up in a > new window. Is there a way to do this? > >3) Can I install both the plug-in and the helper app? In > other words, can I define a different MIME type and send > my drawings back to the browser to call the helper app, > while the normal click on a .pdf file would call the plug-in? > >4) Are there any other options open to me? > >In case it's important, the cgi, if successful in retrieving >the requested file, sends back a "Location: http://pdf_url\n\n" >to the browser. If the retrieval fails, appropriate error >messages go back to the browser as standard HTML. > >Thanks! > >Jennifer Amon > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 23:18:05-GMT,1922;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17381 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:18:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA02150; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:07:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 18:02:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01900; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:02:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199805052302.JAA25750@magna.com.au> X-Sender: larke@magna.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 08:53:15 +1000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Annette Larke Subject: [PDF] Font Downloading Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear all, I have a tricky problem which I hope someone can help with: I am converting a number of files to PDF. The application I am converting from does NOT allow downloading of fonts when printing the postscript file. This means that my fonts won’t be downloaded into the PDF file when distilled. If I add a page to the PDF which does have all fonts downloaded, will those downloaded fonts be available to the pages which originally came from the postscript files in which fonts were NOT downloaded? All suggestions gratefully received. Regards, ANNETTE LARKE Technical Writer Larke Services Pty LTd Sydney, Australia URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 23:38:17-GMT,3564;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17940 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:38:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA02589; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:18:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 18:13:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02369; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:13:08 -0500 Message-Id: <9805052302.AA07888@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Tue, 5 May 98 19:06:57 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I find the below to be a perfect example of ignorant applications ( for example, Excel and or Visio) not knowing how to descibe an object properly so it will be process properly when through a PostScript RIP or via Adobe Acrobat Distiller. I can say confidently that if one built the same table in Adobe Illustrator or as objects made within professional applications such as Adobe Pagemaker or Quark XPress (as opposed to Excel or Visio) that I will get very reliable, predictable PostScript that will print properly and indeed Distill properly - To blame Adobes Distiller application for not processing poorly descibed objects created by applications (or poorly written drivers) is simply not fair. Distiller is simply uncovering mistakes in poorly written PostScript. Setting up Distiller is easy. Adobes literature is spot on and true. It processes PostScript files reliably right out of the box. It cannot however repair Applications and Drivers that make misserable PostScript. >Here are some drawbacks I have encountered. > >I am using PageMaker 6.5 on a Windows 95 system for layout of technical >documents. When I need to put a table or diagram in the document, I use Visio >and Adobe Table. > >Both of these objects are inserted into PageMaker using the "Insert Object" >menu selection, which activates the OLE server. > >I use Adobe Table because the format characteristics of Microsoft Excel >tables >don't drop into PageMaker properly. Each cell has lines around it no matter >how I set up the format in Excel. > >I needed to create landscape report mock-ups. I chose Visio to re-create the >reports because Visio seemed to provide a clearer image in the end PDF than >scans. Only later did I find that the characters (in the typeface Courier) >distorted, even when the PostScript font was used. I upgraded to Visio >version >5, which lessened but did not eliminate the distortion. > >I think part of the problem is that Adobe's promotional materials for PDF >give >the user the impression that creating a PDF is very simple. Unless the source >document is simply text, the creation process requires detailed technical >knowledge about the compatibility of all programs used to create the source. >Setting up the printer and the Adobe printer driver is not terribly >complicated, but it must be done perfectly. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-May-1998 23:47:17-GMT,1964;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18171 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:47:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA03289; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:37:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 18:32:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03080; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:32:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199805052332.JAA05310@magna.com.au> X-Sender: larke@magna.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 09:22:50 +1000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Annette Larke Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF In-Reply-To: <000201bd7877$a8cd2560$697f93d0@dpancoa> References: <2.2.32.19980505205015.00d7dcd8@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Are you using the FIND rather than the SEARCH function? Search makes full use of boolean operators see the online document, SEARCH.pdf, Using Acrobat Search. Regards, Annette Larke At 03:46 PM 05/05/98 -0700, you wrote: > > 2) AA Search is lame. It is >essentially a one-word search function. That means unless the word you are >looking is for is relatively uncommon, you will get too many hits. >I can offer no cure to problem 1. As for problem 2, get something like >DTSearch. > >Regards, >David Pancoast > Larke Services Pty LTd Sydney, Australia URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 0:45:09-GMT,2037;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19395 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:45:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05310; Tue, 5 May 1998 19:35:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 19:30:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05146; Tue, 5 May 1998 19:30:19 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 20:34:43 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: RE: [PDF] Further Thoughts on PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi, > As a matter of fact, no this isn't the main market at all. The > major (and originally only) target market is the office documentation > market. Acrobat was discovered and enthusiastically adopted in > the pre-press community, but not mainly by designers. They aren't > the ones who will see the benefits. Thanks. Those free give-away Acrobat Readers a few years ago would argue your claim. If that was the market target, this explains why Graphic Designers don't use it. Too bad, since I'm having a devil of a time generating any enthusiasm with my clients (Acrobat Reader users). I think Acrobat has extenisve utility (for the faithful), but must discover this on my own. Does anyone have other third party books to suggest? Does "QUE" or the "Wow" series publish Acrobat books? Cheers Murray ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 0:21:05-GMT,2162;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18907 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:21:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA04231; Tue, 5 May 1998 19:04:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 18:57:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03901; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:57:16 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Font Downloading Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 00:54:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bd7881$5f358820$42f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199805052302.JAA25750@magna.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > The application I am converting from does NOT allow > downloading of fonts when printing the postscript file. > This means that my fonts won’t be downloaded into > the PDF file when distilled. That shouldn't be the case. Make sure the fonts are available in Distiller's font directories. > If I add a page to the PDF which does have all fonts > downloaded, will those downloaded fonts be > available to the pages which originally came from > the postscript files in which fonts were NOT > downloaded? 1. If the fonts were in Distiller's font directories this isn't needed. 2. If they weren't, Courier was substituted. It's too late to do anything about it, the PDF file contains courier and always will. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 0:21:18-GMT,1708;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18911 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:21:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA04230; Tue, 5 May 1998 19:04:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 18:57:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03875; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:57:12 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Page count Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 00:49:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bd7881$5d4725a0$42f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <882565FB.007B4C60.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This information is present in the PDF file, but not directly - you have to analyse the file structure and descent the tree of pages, counting the number you find. Aandi > Sometime ago I think I saw mentioned where to look for the > page count of a > PDF file. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 0:23:25-GMT,2144;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18955 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:23:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA04232; Tue, 5 May 1998 19:04:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 18:57:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03900; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:57:16 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Further Thoughts on PDF Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 00:51:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bd7881$5e3221e0$42f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Correct me if I'm wrong in my assumptions, but isn't the creation of > Acrobat PDF's the major domain of Graphic Designers? If they (Graphic > Designers) are dropping further use of PDFs, hasn't Adobe > failed? Every > Graphic Designer uses some form of pagelayout and imaging > software, and > most likely the majority are using Adobe products (ie Illustrator, and > Photoshop). As a matter of fact, no this isn't the main market at all. The major (and originally only) target market is the office documentation market. Acrobat was discovered and enthusiastically adopted in the pre-press community, but not mainly by designers. They aren't the ones who will see the benefits. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 4:03:06-GMT,2828;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23203 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 22:03:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA10896; Tue, 5 May 1998 22:29:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 22:23:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA10681; Tue, 5 May 1998 22:23:13 -0500 From: "David Pancoast" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 20:24:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bd789e$7f9b6c20$9d7e93d0@dpancoa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199805052332.JAA05310@magna.com.au> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Perhaps I overstated my case. I am accustomed to search engines which allow for ground between "Tom cat" and "Tom" {within 3 pages of} "Cat". Operators like "same sentence", "same paragraph", "within x words", "preceeding by x words", etc. are helpful to me. Regards, David P. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On Behalf Of Annette Larke Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 4:23 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Are you using the FIND rather than the SEARCH function? Search makes full use of boolean operators see the online document, SEARCH.pdf, Using Acrobat Search. Regards, Annette Larke At 03:46 PM 05/05/98 -0700, you wrote: > > 2) AA Search is lame. It is >essentially a one-word search function. That means unless the word you are >looking is for is relatively uncommon, you will get too many hits. >I can offer no cure to problem 1. As for problem 2, get something like >DTSearch. > >Regards, >David Pancoast > Larke Services Pty LTd Sydney, Australia URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 4:03:23-GMT,1308;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23216 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 22:03:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA11224; Tue, 5 May 1998 22:37:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 22:32:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA11027; Tue, 5 May 1998 22:32:06 -0500 Message-ID: <354FCBB5.B749F0DD@ionet.net> Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 21:32:22 -0500 From: Richard Durrer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF References: <354F5CBB.B8467711@net.com> <354F783A.10F91627@beacon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 4:04:27-GMT,1641;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23247 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 22:04:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA11776; Tue, 5 May 1998 22:53:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 May 1998 22:48:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA11584; Tue, 5 May 1998 22:48:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199805060348.UAA13603@scruz.net> From: "Bob Marsh" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 20:02:26 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > The documentation is not great, but it is pretty thorough. > If people would take the trouble to look, rather than complain > they can't use it. > This is the kind of attitude about end-users that produces documentation like Acrobat's. Acrobat Help is the last place I look for answers! and, it's not because I don't know about bookmarks, search, etc. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 5:27:05-GMT,1932;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24915 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 23:27:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA14301; Wed, 6 May 1998 00:10:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 00:05:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14145; Wed, 6 May 1998 00:05:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199805060505.PAA23725@magna.com.au> X-Sender: larke@magna.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 14:56:00 +1000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Annette Larke Subject: RE: [PDF] Font Downloading In-Reply-To: <000801bd7881$5f358820$42f682c1@gateway> References: <199805052302.JAA25750@magna.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A big thankyou for your help, Aandi. I've now pointed Distiller to all appropriate font directories. It works like a charm! Regards, Annette At 12:54 AM 05/06/98 +0100, you wrote: > > >> The application I am converting from does NOT allow >> downloading of fonts when printing the postscript file. >> This means that my fonts won’t be downloaded into >> the PDF file when distilled. > >That shouldn't be the case. Make sure the fonts are available >in Distiller's font directories. > Larke Services Pty LTd Sydney, Australia URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 6:25:53-GMT,2220;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA29976 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 00:25:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA15983; Wed, 6 May 1998 01:02:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 00:57:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA15810; Wed, 6 May 1998 00:57:08 -0500 X-ROUTED: Wed, 6 May 1998 01:57:26 -0400 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <01BD7892.2CAF82A0@s72.onix.com> From: Tony McKinley To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Thoughts on PDF Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 01:56:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id AAA15807 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Finally couldn't resist chiming in and saying "Thanks!" for the great thoughts in this thread. This is the kind of stuff that makes us all keep reading listservs, I guess. I think we have all reached the conclusion that the users are the main problem! As usual. My main beef with the lack of a user manual is that casual users are unaware of the IR and Doc Mgmt features of Acrobat. Even if they didn't read it in the manual, they'd notice there were a few chapters on Search and Catalog that they were ignoring. But overall I think the practicing what you preach approach is the best way to learn how to do it right in the long run. As noted earlier, there's always the PDF Manual; and a couple of other books are out there. Excellent posts on real world issues, what a listserv! Tony McKinley http://imagebiz.com/PaperWeb ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 6:34:46-GMT,1941;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01773 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 00:34:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA16515; Wed, 6 May 1998 01:22:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 01:17:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA16359; Wed, 6 May 1998 01:17:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 11:50:52 -0500 (GMT) From: Satyanarayan X-Sender: usatra01@obelix To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Automatic navigation in Multimedia Presentation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, We are working on a Multi-media presentation in PDF format. We have a problem for which we request solution. Currently we are able to set on page open a sound file to be executed, however, "on page open we would like to play a sound and on completion of the sound sequence, to goto the next page automatically without user intervention." We have already tried using the full screen option. Thanks in advance Satyanarayan Vetri Software India Ltd. ___________________________________ | E-mail: usatra81@vetri.com | | Tel Res: 91-44-4992916,4995641 | | Tel off: 91-44-8272066,8273452 | | Fax off: 91-44-8272528 | ----------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 8:17:46-GMT,2190;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18129 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 02:17:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA18948; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:01:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 02:55:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18777; Wed, 6 May 1998 02:55:34 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980506095006.00af9430@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 09:50:06 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, From: Martin Bailey Subject: RE: [PDF] Page count In-Reply-To: <000601bd7881$5d4725a0$42f682c1@gateway> References: <882565FB.007B4C60.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You can just take the value of /Count in the top-most Pages object - you don't need to walk the entire tree. Martin Bailey Harlequin Ltd At 00:49 06/05/98 +0100, Aandi Inston wrote: > >This information is present in the PDF file, but not directly - >you have to analyse the file structure and descent the tree of >pages, counting the number you find. > >Aandi > >> Sometime ago I think I saw mentioned where to look for the >> page count of a >> PDF file. >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 8:21:11-GMT,2216;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18252 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 02:21:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA17647; Wed, 6 May 1998 02:07:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 02:02:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA17513; Wed, 6 May 1998 02:02:32 -0500 Message-ID: <354FFD69.E2169057@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 17:04:27 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF - Documentation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 My .02 on this topic ? It is hard to produce a user gude when you are also the developer of the software, for the very reason that you end up too close to the product to put yurself in the ueser's shoes. You end up assumng that they have knowledge that they don't have, or that they understand by ososis what certain icons or buttons are, or they remember what level of a document they are in. It really needs an outside perspective. I don't concur with the comments that the "problems" with the user manual are human related. I also don't fnd the user guide very intuitive, it's the usual case of tryng to make the human being fit the software rather than the other way around. It would probably be beneficial for Adobe to contract out the instructional design and the graphic design to those who specalise in that area. FWIW Dean Laffan ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 9:06:55-GMT,2630;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19528 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:06:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA20287; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:52:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 03:46:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20093; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:46:57 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Page count Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 09:19:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bd78cb$5d677f40$42f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980506095006.00af9430@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 So it does. In fact, that suggests the following algorithm which will OFTEN be correct, but by no means always: Scan the PDF files for lines starting /Count and followed by a number. The largest number found may be the count of pages. Reasons it may not be right include: 1. Accidental matches in binary data (unlikely) 2. /Count is also used to define the number of bookmarks, but this is fairly unlikely to exceed the number of pages 3. Other constructs may use /Count. 4. If pages are deleted and the document saved (not SAVE AS) the original count will be picked up. Whether this is accurate enough depends on the purposes for which it is intended. Aandi > > You can just take the value of /Count in the top-most Pages > object - you > don't need to walk the entire tree. > > Martin Bailey > Harlequin Ltd > > At 00:49 06/05/98 +0100, Aandi Inston wrote: > > > >This information is present in the PDF file, but not directly - > >you have to analyse the file structure and descent the tree of > >pages, counting the number you find. > > > >Aandi > > > >> Sometime ago I think I saw mentioned where to look for the > >> page count of a > >> PDF file. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 9:12:04-GMT,2280;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19674 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:12:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA20858; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:03:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 03:58:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20543; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:58:44 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD78DD.D0D7C8B0.mpeters@mapsoft.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF - Documentation Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:44:16 +0100 Organization: Mapsoft X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Info: Routed By Intensive Networks Ltd. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, May 06, 1998 7:04 AM Dean Laffan wrote >It is hard to produce a user gude when you are also the developer of the >software, for the very reason that you end up too close to the product >to put yurself in the ueser's shoes. You end up assumng that they have >knowledge that they don't have, or that they understand by ososis what >certain icons or buttons are, or they remember what level of a document >they are in. It really needs an outside perspective. I have to strongly disagree on this. A good technical author should be able to put themselves in the user's place. In fact some of the best technical authors come from a non-technical background and a large company such as Adobe should be able to employ such people. I agree that developers do not make the best writers, but then in such a large company it shouldn't be their job to do the documentation. Regards Michael Peters ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 9:12:04-GMT,1739;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19676 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:12:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA20857; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:03:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 03:58:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20559; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:58:46 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD78DD.D2172680.mpeters@mapsoft.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic navigation in Multimedia Presentation Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:51:33 +0100 Organization: Mapsoft X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Info: Routed By Intensive Networks Ltd. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, May 06, 1998 5:50 PM Satyanarayan wrote >"on page open we would like to play a sound and on completion of the >sound sequence, to goto the next page automatically without user >intervention." Can't you use two action handlers. The first to play the sound and then the second to go to the next page. Regards Michael Peters Mapsoft ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 10:01:34-GMT,2685;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20747 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:01:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA22119; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:47:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 04:42:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA21918; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:42:11 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E0448F6@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'dpancoa@vegasnet.net'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Repaginating PDF Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 19:39:06 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David, You could write a simple VB routine to swap the pages. See the code cuts section on our website for sample code on page manipulation [the merge pages example and the split pages example]. http://www.roundtable.com.au [click on plugins and then code cuts in the left frame]. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - Check out PDFHotLinks today - http://www.roundtable.com.au/fr_hotlink.htm -----Original Message----- From: David Pancoast [mailto:dpancoa@vegasnet.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 1998 3:06 AM To: Capture List (Emerge); pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Repaginating PDF I have a number of pdf's which were scanned from double-sided originals. The scanner was not set to duplex and this caused the pages to be out-of-order. The originals do have page numbers; they are just out of sequence. My question: Does anyone know of a method (other than shuffling thumbnails) for correcting this situation? My assistant is a very patient, lovely woman. But, frankly, I think she's ready to shoot me for this one! Thanks, David Pancoast ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 10:01:52-GMT,2531;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20752 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA22175; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:49:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 04:44:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22003; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:44:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 15:17:49 -0500 (GMT) From: Satyanarayan X-Sender: usatra01@obelix To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic navigation in Multimedia Presentation In-Reply-To: <01BD78DD.D2172680.mpeters@mapsoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, On Wednesday, May 06, 1998 5:50 PM Satyanarayan wrote > >"on page open we would like to play a sound and on completion of the > >sound sequence, to goto the next page automatically without user > >intervention." On Wed, 6 May 1998, Michael Peters wrote: > Can't you use two action handlers. > The first to play the sound and then the second to go to the next page. Thanks for the response. I did try that out first. What happens is that, on page open, it just goes to the next page without waiting for the Sound sequence to be completed. Looks like both the items in the list gets executed together. If I put two sounds into the list, only the second one plays. I am unable to restrict it from going to the next page immedietly after page open by adding the execute menu command. If I put one sound and one movie, then on page open it goes to the next page, plays the sound and then plays the movie. With best regards Satyanarayan ___________________________________ | E-mail: usatra81@vetri.com | | Tel Res: 91-44-4992916,4995641 | | Tel off: 91-44-8272066,8273452 | | Fax off: 91-44-8272528 | ----------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 11:41:50-GMT,1923;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23112 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 05:41:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA24452; Wed, 6 May 1998 06:17:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 06:12:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24318; Wed, 6 May 1998 06:12:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD78F0.73D33E70.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 11:14:17 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I use Outlook for mail, exported all the mails to MS Access, genereted a database report and printed it via Distiller Assistant. For about 2 months of stuff on this list the PDF is 2.5 megs long. It is nicely searchable. The stuff is searchabe through Outlook anyway but PDF displays it better. That's one way of building personal PDF reference. Jernej On Sunday, May 03, 1998 5:20 AM, Murray McCombs [SMTP:mmccombs@interlog.com] wrote: .... > The only place to find out about PDF capabilities, is right here on this list. > I'm saving every question and comment and trying to organize a retrieval > system for later references. > .... ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 12:08:24-GMT,2687;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23775 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 06:08:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA25734; Wed, 6 May 1998 06:56:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 06:52:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25583; Wed, 6 May 1998 06:52:23 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 12:50:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bd78e5$44d69780$42f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > The only place to find out about PDF capabilities, is right > here on this list. > I'm saving every question and comment and trying to organize > a retrieval > system for later references. I'd have to disagree with that. People just aren't using the documentation available - and Adobe are partly to blame for not putting any signposts to it. But have you explored the Acrobat Reader CDROM, for instance? There is a 400 page book "Internet publishing with Adobe Acrobat" (IPWACRO.PDF). It covers the basics, common to all users, not just web publishing. Both CDROMs include lots of technical notes, and take a look at the 72 page Acrobat FAQ on the 3.0 CDROM (01AA_FAQ.PDF) - essentially a collation of questions and answers from Adobe's tech support. I used to tend to agree that there wasn't enough documentation, but as version has succeeded version, with more and more information, my attitute has hardened. I believe there is a hard core who have decided there is no useful documentation included, and therefore decline to look for it. The people using Acrobat are, after all, in the business of creating documents. Sadly, it seems that this group is the least likely to respect other people's and actually read them. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 13:57:56-GMT,1573;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26799 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:57:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA29803; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:39:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 08:34:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29601; Wed, 6 May 1998 08:34:46 -0500 Message-ID: <632B97E258CCD1119B1600805FFE9FD92140AC@ustcax04.kcc.com> From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 08:34:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All other issues with the on-line documentation aside, what good is an "index" that is created with the search function going to do for someone who needs help with the search function? While I feel the on-line help has generally provided me with the answers I've wanted, I've not often wanted difficult answers. Joel Kinstle ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 16:11:37-GMT,3753;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02055 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:11:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA05421; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:51:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 10:46:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05087; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:46:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Keith Borman To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Delivery Solution Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 08:40:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm interested in getting some feedback on a new internet delivery solution for PDFs. It may represent some implementation opportunities within some of your environments, but I'm not so much interested in that as I am in making it in getting some of your general opinions regarding our "development to date." If time permits, go to http://www.blue.com, or http://www.drumlink.com The first URL will provide additional background info, the second is a real world example. PDFs are great. Acrobat is great. The Web is great. I think most of us would probably like to see a little "more of this or less of that," but overall, this is a fantastic vehicle for the display of rich content. On the other hand, real time downloads are not so great. Neither is the nuisance of having to remember to go somewhere to do something on a regular basis. Blue, the company I work with, has come up with an interesting way to deliver PDFs over the Internet. We can background deliver PDF files, politely utilizing null modem cycles. There are other processes we've integrated, but the delivery solution is what I'll concentrate on for now. The downloads are (theoretically) infinitely interruptable throughout single or multiple sessions. The enduser is informed when the file has been completely downloaded. Normal enduser online time should be more than sufficient to deliver these files. For more involved explanations it might be more appropriate to contact me directly. We're concentrating initially on the Magazine industry, specifically using this delivery solution as a way to send a set of magazine samples (staggered deliveries, one sample a week for some number of weeks) to interested endusers. Each sample is about ten pages, re-designed from the regular print format to a computer "landscape-ish" viewing format. Each sample contains an interactive print subscription "call to action" signup form. The viewer itself ( a superset of Acrobat) is designed to accommodate a magazine reading environment, and allow easy access for the "lowest common denominator" reader. We have been live for about a month now, and have some significant customers. We feel like the best vehicle for engaging an enduser in purchasing a magazine is the magazine itself- in this instance in digital format. PDF represents an opportunity to accomplish that. (Am I preaching to the converted?) Again, I'd love to hear development/user interface comments. Keith Borman Blue 40 S. Market St. Suite 300 San Jose CA, 95113 direct line 408 271 8904 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 17:18:41-GMT,1481;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04681 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:18:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA08789; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:59:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 11:54:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08516; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:54:14 -0500 X-Sender: mmccartt@siesta Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 09:54:41 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mac McCartt Subject: RE: [PDF] Further Thoughts on PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 What an interesting take on PDFs. Thank you for a measured, considered treatise. - - - Electronic Signature - - - Mac McCartt/mmccartt@autoiii.com 805 376 5223/FAX 805 376 5005 - - - Electronic Signature - - - ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 17:24:27-GMT,3203;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04907 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:24:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09530; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:13:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 12:09:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09270; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:09:34 -0500 Message-ID: <35509986.2764C4D9@ionet.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 12:10:30 -0500 From: Richard Durrer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF References: <000b01bd78e5$44d69780$42f682c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hey, would it kill them to put in a single sheet stating what docs are online and what those names mean? I mean would you go and say "Ah this IPWACRO.PDF must be the doc's on Internet publishing! Just what I needed!" or would you stumble around trying to open every PDF looking for the magic stuff? Aandi Inston wrote: > > The only place to find out about PDF capabilities, is right > > here on this list. > > I'm saving every question and comment and trying to organize > > a retrieval > > system for later references. > > I'd have to disagree with that. People just aren't using the > documentation available - and Adobe are partly to blame for > not putting any signposts to it. But have you explored the > Acrobat Reader CDROM, for instance? > > There is a 400 page book "Internet publishing with Adobe > Acrobat" (IPWACRO.PDF). It covers the basics, common to > all users, not just web publishing. > > Both CDROMs include lots of technical notes, and take a look > at the 72 page Acrobat FAQ on the 3.0 CDROM (01AA_FAQ.PDF) > - essentially a collation of questions and answers from > Adobe's tech support. > > I used to tend to agree that there wasn't enough documentation, > but as version has succeeded version, with more and more > information, my attitute has hardened. I believe there is > a hard core who have decided there is no useful documentation > included, and therefore decline to look for it. > > The people using Acrobat are, after all, in the business of > creating documents. Sadly, it seems that this group is the > least likely to respect other people's and actually read them. > > Aandi > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 17:25:02-GMT,2047;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04924 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:25:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09567; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:14:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 12:10:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09347; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:10:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:07:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: mepowell@shell4.ba.best.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Powell Subject: [PDF] Search does not return hits Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello: I have posted this elsewhere, but wanted to run it on this forum as well. We have a documentation set of about 40 pdfs, totalling maybe 2000 pages, that we index using Acrobat Catalog. No matter what I try, a search query only returns hits for discrete occurence of the string (meaning that a query for capabilities will hit capabilities, but not getcapabilities or capabilities_t, for example). I have tried indexing with word stemming options on and off; I have tried indexing with Catalog on both Windows and Mac machines; I have tried with small test files. But the persists. I have pored through the documentation but cannot find anything. All Adobe has told me is that it should work. Any suggestions from anyone? Work-arounds? Prayers? Mark Powell powell@wordscapes.com markp@icg-sj.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 17:40:38-GMT,6126;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05563 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:40:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10374; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:28:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 12:23:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10063; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:23:43 -0500 Message-ID: <35509CD5.F74691BD@net.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 10:24:37 -0700 From: Tom Regner Organization: N.E.T. http://www.net.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Digest Subject: [PDF] Thoughts: Further Clarification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory Snavely wrote: >Although I do think you make some good points in your >post about the documentation, I think those are generally >true of most software providers and Adobe is by no >means the worst; in fact, they are better than average in >my experience. A number of thoughts come to mind, Cory. I agree that the state of documentation in the industry, overall, is bordering on the abysmal. That is beside the point, however. Adobe is at the top of its market for many of its products. Just as we expect and demand a higher level of personal conduct from public officials, we (by nature) expect and demand a higher level of product presentation from companies that are arguably the best at what they do. >Furthermore, I don't want, nor do I want to pay the >production and distribution costs for, a printed manual. >There's a saying in the UNIX community: "you can't >grep [search] a dead tree". No argument here. I make my living producing online documentation, and this company no longer produces any printed manuals whatsoever. So what? Does this mean that by moving to electronic distribution that we have to abandon the document tools that increase a given manual's usefulness? To you and to Aandi, I have to say that while even the best search functions are tremendous resources, they lack the "human factor" that Virgil mentioned for one simple reason -- people aren't computers. They might not be able to think of the proper word or string to enter without seeing associated words, which is precisely the way in which most people use indexes. I am not saying that we should exchange one for the other, because both search engines and indices have their usefulness, and neither is a suitable substitute for the other. Tom Theirsch wrote: >So, someone handed you a printed copy of a document that >was designed from the start to be used electronically, and yet >you think it appropriate to complain about its lack of TOC and >Index? Huh? Why yes, I do. Why is this one simple concept so hard for some of you to grasp? If you know little about the product, what do you search for? How do you know where to start? Read the entire online manual on the screen? Nonsense. Again, the company I work for produces all of their documentation in PDF and HTML. The PDF versions are designed such that parts can be printed and used if you're in an equipment closet somewhere. Obviously, no one is going to want to use Acrobat in a closet, but products as complex and as popular as this one need to have documentation that is useful to everyone, not just to those who have the time or inclination or search skills (not everyone speaks English as their first language, and making things "search only" with no index is the same as saying that the company doesn't care about people with only marginal English skills -- sort of "bigotry by omission" in my opinion) to use it "in the intended manner" as you suggest. True, you cannot make every product and every piece of documentation suit every special need, but when you are: a.) Adobe Systems and b.) marketing a product to be used literally everywhere in the world and c.) attempting to be the de facto standard of cross-platform document production, then in my opinion, you should be aware of your entire audience and do your very best to make the product accessible to the widest possible customer base. As stated, this is an opinion, but it is an informed opinion based on my twenty years in the field of product documentation and a great deal of follow-through on precisely HOW documentation gets used by the end-user. Aandi wrote: > But I would agree with one point: if people are not using > these then the basic message is not getting through. > The documentation is not great, but it is pretty thorough. > If people would take the trouble to look, rather than complain > they can't use it. "The trouble to look" is kind of a telling phrase, isn't it? My point is that it should be LESS trouble. The world wide web is a fair analogy here. Large sites with a lot of information can be tedious to read all the way through on the screen. A great many people print entire web sites so that they can read them at their leisure, perhaps away from the computer. Clearly, the screen is "the intended medium," but only for DISTRIBUTION. Young people with no arthritis or without vision problems probably just don't get why someone might prefer to read long documents in a comfortable position than to have to lean into a screen for long periods of time. Ah well... I'm probably not winning any converts, and I've said enough already. Two points: search functions are not enough, and screen-only docs can be tedious to use. Both are exclusive of significant portions of the the computer-literate society. Fini -- Tom Regner ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 18:05:52-GMT,2560;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06757 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:05:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA11317; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:47:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 12:44:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11120; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:43:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3550A146.3CBB9BE3@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 13:43:34 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Search does not return hits References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mark Powell wrote: > > I have posted this elsewhere, but wanted to run it on this forum as well. > We have a documentation set of about 40 pdfs, totalling maybe 2000 pages, > that we index using Acrobat Catalog. No matter what I try, a search query > only returns hits for discrete occurence of the string (meaning that a > query for capabilities will hit capabilities, but not getcapabilities or > capabilities_t, for example). > > I have tried indexing with word stemming options on and off; I have tried > indexing with Catalog on both Windows and Mac machines; I have tried with > small test files. But the problem persists. What happens if you try searching with wildcards, i.e. "*capabil*"? That will take a little longer, but is more powerful than the built-in word stemming. I believe that in general the embedded technology (the Verity search engine) attempts to search for words and not word *fragments* by default. This is as opposed to most web search engines (and therefore what most of us come to expect). For more information see the Adobe Acrobat Search Online Guide [Help/Search.pdf], p. 25. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group p.s. No, I'm not trying to make a point by citing the docs. 8^) ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 18:06:31-GMT,2894;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06799 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:06:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA11779; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:56:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 12:52:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11543; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:52:15 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980506175232.00d73638@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 10:52:32 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Search does not return hits Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mark, "Word stemming" will never apply to the kind of variants you're trying to find. Have you tried using a asterisks (*), as in: "*capabilit*" ? This should work for the examples you cited. You should leave the "stemming" option "on" when you build the index, along with all of the other default options that maximize the searchability of the index, unless you have some very specific reasons to turn them off (e.g., to save space). Tom Thiersch At 10:07 AM 5/6/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello: > >I have posted this elsewhere, but wanted to run it on this forum as well. >We have a documentation set of about 40 pdfs, totalling maybe 2000 pages, >that we index using Acrobat Catalog. No matter what I try, a search query >only returns hits for discrete occurence of the string (meaning that a >query for capabilities will hit capabilities, but not getcapabilities or >capabilities_t, for example). > >I have tried indexing with word stemming options on and off; I have tried >indexing with Catalog on both Windows and Mac machines; I have tried with >small test files. But the persists. > >I have pored through the documentation but cannot find anything. All Adobe >has told me is that it should work. Any suggestions from anyone? >Work-arounds? Prayers? > >Mark Powell > >powell@wordscapes.com >markp@icg-sj.com > > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 18:27:01-GMT,2430;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07643 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:27:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12573; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:13:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 13:08:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12315; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:08:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3550A7A9.3E41E583@document-solutions.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 11:10:49 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts: Further Clarification References: <35509CD5.F74691BD@net.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Folks: I'm going to stick my oar in on this one -- just a little. The complaints in re Adobe's on-line docs (ie, that they're not very useable when printed), have (IMHO) been neatly -- if somewhat ponderously -- disposed of by the assembled minds. My point is simply this. To make everyone happy, Adobe should author TWO complete sets of these documents -- one set (the current one) formatted for screen and on-line searching, the other formatted and organized for print-on-demand. A PDF-based front-end for this documentation system would be sooooo easy to develop and a snap to incorporate into the existing documentation framework. Dead-tree lovers could click once to find a complete list of manuals, then proceed to kill their laser-printers to their heart's content. Geeks, and other people who actually use PDF on-line (God forbid!) will remain happy. Note that this solution does NOT involve Adobe or users in the expense of printed materials -- except as wanted/needed by the end user. Just a thought..... Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 18:39:32-GMT,2495;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08096 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:39:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12980; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:20:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 13:16:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12736; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:16:24 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565FC.0061E745.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 14:15:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Thoughts: Further Clarification Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom, I for one appreciate your coments on the overall usefulness of an on-screen only document. I personally try very hard to make our documents dual purpose. There is no reason why the excellent Adobe manuals could not come with pages of TOC & index and instructions on how to print all pages in an order to facilitate assembly into a nice 1/2 page size, print both sides, booklet. I do it all the time, it's not that difficult. If you're over 40; staring into a screen for hours is not comfortable. Yes, believe it or not, I actually read the entire manual.(as I have for all the software I use) I enjoy planning a project with my feet up, sitting among reference materials taking notes with a PENCIL. This may change when I can get a high res 42 inch Monitor. As any recent emigre can attest, searching is hopeless unless your English skills are fair and you have absorbed enough of the culture to know how the language is ordered. Rick Bishop PRP Media Houston Tom Regner wrote: Ah well... I'm probably not winning any converts, and I've said enough already. Two points: search functions are not enough, and screen-only docs can be tedious to use. Both are exclusive of significant portions of the the computer-literate society. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 19:29:31-GMT,2511;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09936 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:29:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19928; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:07:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 13:55:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17706; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:53:52 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Thoughts on PDF Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 19:46:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bd7920$29de70c0$c8f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <35509986.2764C4D9@ionet.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Hey, would it kill them to put in a single sheet stating what docs are > online and what those names mean? I mean would you go and > say "Ah this > IPWACRO.PDF must be the doc's on Internet publishing! Just what I > needed!" or would you stumble around trying to open every PDF looking > for the magic stuff? Agreed. Though there are hundreds of interesting PDFs on the Reader CDROM, and a large number of interesting things (not just documents, but - for instance - a tool for making PDF file transitions) in the GOODIES folder on the CDROM. It's a bit too easy to install the software and file the CDROM, without exploring it - no reason to, really, though I believe the Acrobat Tutorial help file leads you back to the CDROM. The best way to explore the Reader CDROM is to open the acrocafe.pdf file. It demonstrates interesting techniques and seems to link to everything else. I observe that Photoshop and Illustrator now ship a pair of CDROMs, one marked "tutorial". This may be a help, leading people to understand that it's worth exploring the latter. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 20:11:39-GMT,1884;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11528 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:11:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA24755; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:53:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 14:49:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24471; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:49:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Datavix" To: Subject: [PDF] Seraching numeric fields via Acrobat Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 16:49:26 -0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am using Acrobat for COLD purpose, so I need to search "char" and "numeric" fields. -------- QUESTIONS ---------- 1 - Can I do a numeric search search a numeric field ( or a column ) using numeric operators ? I know, that it is possible to search document info fields ( date, for example ). Example : > 30.00 , < 235.00 and so on. 2 - Can I delimit the search for a range of column position ( for example, from column 35 to 45 ) ? Are there any utilities/plug-ins that adress the questions above ? Thank You, Ruben Rose ruben@datavix.com.br www.datavix.com.br ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 20:19:18-GMT,2413;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11862 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:19:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26431; Wed, 6 May 1998 15:07:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 15:00:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25408; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:59:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3550C0A2.52E145DF@aip.org> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 15:57:22 -0400 From: Jerry McCarthy Organization: The American Institute of Physics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "PDF User's Group" CC: Jerry McCarthy Subject: [PDF] PDF Views Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi. We have multiple named destinations in a PDF file which may or may not fall on the same physical page. We used Xyvision XPP PDF Macros to pdfmark these destinations before distillation. When we link to this PDF file from a web (HTML) document, the weblinks bring up the correct PDF page for the given named destination, but our goal is to bring the user to a view of the page in which each destination always displays at the top left of the user's Reader, no matter where it physically resides on the PDF page. We have experimented with specifying different Views (Fit, FitH, XYZ zoom, etc.) in the Xyvision PDF Support Spec, but it appears that in order to succeed we would need to specify the actual page coordinates for every destination (which Exchange apparently knows how to do, but we don't). Is there a way that we can accomplish this through some automated means (i.e., without using Exchange)? We would potentially be doing this for thousands of PDF files. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you. Jerry McCarthy American Institute of Physics ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 21:13:19-GMT,1767;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13914 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 15:13:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA30769; Wed, 6 May 1998 15:58:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 15:53:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30477; Wed, 6 May 1998 15:53:30 -0500 From: jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENSORIUM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <862565FC.0072970A.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 15:51:38 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Quick Time 3 won't work in AcroRead? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am managing a product in Acrobat that will be distributed with a QuickTime movie. This is a windows 95 / NT only application. I was using QT 2.12 previously, but I understand that I have to use version 3 to legally distibute it now. Now, when I click the link in the PDF file for the .mov file, I get an error the QuickTime is not initialized. What do I have to do to correct this problem? Does the movie have to be re-coded by thge post-production house? Thanks Jeremy Treister jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com 312.786.1330.515 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 21:13:21-GMT,2950;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13920 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 15:13:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA30356; Wed, 6 May 1998 15:50:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 15:35:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29462; Wed, 6 May 1998 15:35:32 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980506133830.007e6780@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 13:38:30 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Views In-Reply-To: <3550C0A2.52E145DF@aip.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I haven't tried this using Reader inside a browser, but it should still work. The 796 number comes from a page size of 11", which is 792 pts, then add 4 pts so they can see the top edge of the page. %Name the destination, set the view to be the upper left of the page, and %set the zoom to fit width so they can orient themselves. [ /Dest /Dest_Name /View [/FitH 796] /DEST pdfmark At 03:57 PM 5/6/98 -0400, you wrote: > >When we link to this PDF file from a web (HTML) document, the weblinks >bring up the correct PDF page for the given named destination, but our >goal is to bring the user to a view of the page in which each >destination always displays at the top left of the user's Reader, no >matter where it physically resides on the PDF page. > >We have experimented with specifying different Views (Fit, FitH, XYZ >zoom, etc.) in the Xyvision PDF Support Spec, but it appears that in >order to succeed we would need to specify the actual page coordinates >for every destination (which Exchange apparently knows how to do, but we >don't). > >Is there a way that we can accomplish this through some automated means >(i.e., without using Exchange)? We would potentially be doing this for >thousands of PDF files. > >Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you. > > >Jerry McCarthy >American Institute of Physics >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 22:28:41-GMT,2182;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16520 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 16:28:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA00982; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:02:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 16:58:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00738; Wed, 6 May 1998 16:58:14 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Seraching numeric fields via Acrobat Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 22:22:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bd7939$ec69dee0$c8f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I am using Acrobat for COLD purpose, so I need to search "char" and > "numeric" fields. > > -------- QUESTIONS ---------- > 1 - Can I do a numeric search search a numeric field ( or a > column ) using > numeric operators ? I know, that it is possible to search > document info > fields ( date, for example ). > Example : > 30.00 , < 235.00 and so on. > > 2 - Can I delimit the search for a range of column position ( > for example, > from column 35 to 45 ) ? > > Are there any utilities/plug-ins that adress the questions above ? Acrobat Search is based on words and natural language. It is completely unsuitable for the purposes you outline, except that a number may occasionally be found as a word. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-May-1998 22:28:42-GMT,2139;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16521 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 16:28:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA00983; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:02:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 16:58:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00753; Wed, 6 May 1998 16:58:17 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quick Time 3 won't work in AcroRead? Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 22:24:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bd7939$ee2d87e0$c8f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <862565FC.0072970A.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 QuickTime 3 does not work with Acrobat. I hadn't heard there are problems distributing the old version - it is the version included with the standard Acrobat installers. If you use one of the installers from the CDROM (which you MUST) you should get a suitable version of QuickTime. > > I am managing a product in Acrobat that will be distributed with a > QuickTime movie. This is a windows 95 / NT only application. > > I was using QT 2.12 previously, but I understand that I have > to use version > 3 to legally distibute it now. Now, when I click the link in > the PDF file > for the .mov file, I get an error the QuickTime is not initialized. > Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 7-May-1998 0:20:18-GMT,3291;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20736 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 18:20:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05310; Wed, 6 May 1998 18:55:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 May 1998 18:50:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05106; Wed, 6 May 1998 18:50:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3550F714.19E0170@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 19:49:40 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Search does not return hits References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA05102 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Question, did you enter in any words to eliminate from the indexing like and, or, nor, but etc. If you do that, than you can't chain together words to broading the search. Also be aware of sounds like as this will broading the search pattern as well. In my experience, it's much better to do all the words without eliminating any to increase the power of the Catalog (via Verity) search engine. Hope this helps. Bob Moran Mark Powell wrote: > Hello: > > I have posted this elsewhere, but wanted to run it on this forum as well. > We have a documentation set of about 40 pdfs, totalling maybe 2000 pages, > that we index using Acrobat Catalog. No matter what I try, a search query > only returns hits for discrete occurence of the string (meaning that a > query for capabilities will hit capabilities, but not getcapabilities or > capabilities_t, for example). > > I have tried indexing with word stemming options on and off; I have tried > indexing with Catalog on both Windows and Mac machines; I have tried with > small test files. But the persists. > > I have pored through the documentation but cannot find anything. All Adobe > has told me is that it should work. Any suggestions from anyone? > Work-arounds? Prayers? > > Mark Powell > > powell@wordscapes.com > markp@icg-sj.com > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 7-May-1998 18:51:45-GMT,2625;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19583 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:51:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11196; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:25:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 May 1998 13:18:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10775; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:17:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3551FA93.D2D0E55A@aip.org> Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 14:16:51 -0400 From: "Chris McMahon" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Page count References: <882565FB.007B4C60.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sue, I think the following is what you are looking for. If I remember correctly it came from Duff Johnson (I didn't save the whole message)? Hope this helps. - Chris American Institute of Physics If you Catalog your PDF collection, you'll find that the application generates a log file containing (a) the name of each PDF file indexed, (b) the total number of files, and (c) the total number of pages in the collection. We use this little kludge all the time to get the "final" number of deliverable pages for billing purposes. sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > > Sometime ago I think I saw mentioned where to look for the page count of a > PDF file. I think it was in the log file???? I've looked there and can't > figure how the page count might be listed. Can someone tell me the syntax > (right word?) for the page count - any other ideas? I know that Robin > Saccuzzo has developed a macro for Excel 97 that will extract this > information, does anyone know of something that will do this in Word or > Excel 95? > > Thanks > SueG > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 7-May-1998 19:24:30-GMT,2981;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20571 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13067; Thu, 7 May 1998 14:03:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 May 1998 13:59:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12829; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:59:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199805071857.LAA18790@gnp.com> From: "April Joy" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 11:52:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] printing manuals In-reply-to: <199805071818.NAA10792@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I think people are just going to have to get use to online manuals. More and more places are switching. Its cheaper to produce and easier to distribute and store. The company I am working for is currently switching all technical documenation to CD and the internet using PDFs. I will be surprised if any software or hardware company ships printed material after the turn of the century if not before. Also it is true that some companies who produce tech documentation don't fully understand the needs or don't try to meet the needs of their intended audience. Consequently they either provide too little or too much information, in a format that is hard to follow and use jargon that is not common knowledge. Online documentation should never lead someone to a dead end. It should answer questions in detail not in small bits and pieces scattered though various pages that are not properly linked. Consistancy in naming conventions and wording to make searches easy. It should be written at the level (up or down) of the intended audiences. Jargon should only be used if the majority of the audience will most likely understand the jargon. It should be tested with low level users and then high level users to see what questions will most likely arise, and then make sure the answers are provided in the documentation. April Joy =========================== April Joy Clanton Technical Writer Customer Service Department ---------------------------------------------- Real strength never impairs beauty or harmony, but it often bestows it; and in everything imposingly beautiful, strength has much to do with the magic... - Herman Melville ---------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 7-May-1998 20:27:46-GMT,5036;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22069 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 14:27:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA15951; Thu, 7 May 1998 15:08:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 May 1998 15:03:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15707; Thu, 7 May 1998 15:03:33 -0500 From: "Russell Hansberry" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] printing manuals Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 13:06:59 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20070982802238@acmenet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would add to your excellent statements: 1. The usual orientation for a printed manual is portrait. The usual orientation for a screen is landscape. Placing a printed manual online without changing orientation usually results in type too small to read or lots of excess navigation. It is annoying to have to navigate between a figure and the text that talks about the same subject in a technical manual. Excess navigation is also caused by the inability to put as much information on a screen as on a page and still be able to read it. The two forms are not equivalent and interchangeable. They are only roughly so. For that reason, I disagree with your prediction of the demise of paper manuals. High end products will take longer to migrate. Computer display technology will need more time to improve before this transition can progress as you describe. 2. Name consistency is fine everywhere except in the index. There, you must provide cross references from a wide variety of terminology that a user might use to describe or name a product feature of subject. It is not easy to do this, but it is necessary. If the user cannot find it in the index, there is no use writing the text in the manual. In the field of information technology this is the difference between data and information. People collect data but people use information. There must be a way to change data into information. In a manual, the index is a key part of this process. Russ Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com ---------- > From: April Joy > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] printing manuals > Date: Thursday, May 07, 1998 4:52 AM > > > I think people are just going to have to get use to online manuals. > More and more places are switching. Its cheaper to produce and > easier to distribute and store. The company I am working for > is currently switching all technical documenation to CD and the > internet using PDFs. I will be surprised if any software or > hardware company ships printed material after the turn of the century > if not before. > > Also it is true that some companies who produce tech documentation > don't fully understand the needs or don't try to meet the needs of > their intended audience. Consequently they either provide too little > or too much information, in a format that is hard to follow and use > jargon that is not common knowledge. > > Online documentation should never lead someone to a dead end. It > should answer questions in detail not in small bits and pieces > scattered though various pages that are not properly linked. > Consistancy in naming conventions and wording to make searches easy. > It should be written at the level (up or down) of the intended > audiences. Jargon should only be used if the majority of the audience > will most likely understand the jargon. It should be tested with > low level users and then high level users to see what questions will > most likely arise, and then make sure the answers are provided in > the documentation. > > April Joy > > > =========================== > April Joy Clanton > Technical Writer > Customer Service Department > > ---------------------------------------------- > Real strength never impairs beauty or harmony, > but it often bestows it; > and in everything imposingly beautiful, > strength has much to do with the magic... > - Herman Melville > ---------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 7-May-1998 20:39:21-GMT,4827;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22376 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 14:39:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16716; Thu, 7 May 1998 15:25:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 May 1998 15:21:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16502; Thu, 7 May 1998 15:21:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3552175F.C3AE8C47@aip.org> Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:19:43 -0400 From: Jerry McCarthy Organization: The American Institute of Physics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "PDF User's Group" , Scott Hamlow CC: Jerry McCarthy Subject: [PDF] PDF Views Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to Scott Hamlow for the attempted help, but perhaps I wasn't sufficiently clear in my original post. We've been able to use a specific value (such as the suggested 796) as the parameter for the Fit type, but this locks us into an undesirable one-size-fits-all situation. In the case of "/FitH 796", for every weblink to a named destination the browser would then display a view of the top left corner of the *page* on which that destination resides. This is not what we want. Rather, we wish to be able to display a view in which the *named destination text* appears at the top left corner of the browser, regardless of where that text occurs on the actual PDF page. In other words (and this is hard to describe in e-mail, but...) suppose our named destinations were Link2 and Link3, and our actual PDF page layout was as follows: ------------------------------------ top of PDF page Link1: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Link2: xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Link3: xxxxxxx ------------------------------------ bottom of PDF page We would want a weblink to "Link2" in the PDF to take us to this view: ------------------------------------ top of browser window Link2: xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Link3: xxxxxxx (empty space) ------------------------------------ and, likewise, a link to "Link3" would take us to this view: ------------------------------------ top of browser window Link3: xxxxxxx (empty space) ------------------------------------ Now, is there any way to use a variable parameter for the /FitH, rather than a hard-coded number like 796, which would allow us to display different views of the same PDF page depending on the destination being linked to, without knowing the physical coordinates of the named destinations? Failing that, is there a way to capture the actual coordinates without using Exchange or other software? Thanks to anyone who can help (and anyone who read this far :) Jerry McCarthy American Institute of Physics Scott Hamlow wrote: > > I haven't tried this using Reader inside a browser, but it should still > work. The 796 number comes from a page size of 11", which is 792 pts, then > add 4 pts so they can see the top edge of the page. > > %Name the destination, set the view to be the upper left of the page, and > %set the zoom to fit width so they can orient themselves. > > [ /Dest /Dest_Name > /View [/FitH 796] > /DEST > pdfmark > > > At 03:57 PM 5/6/98 -0400, Jerry McCarthy wrote: > > > >When we link to this PDF file from a web (HTML) document, the weblinks > >bring up the correct PDF page for the given named destination, but our > >goal is to bring the user to a view of the page in which each > >destination always displays at the top left of the user's Reader, no > >matter where it physically resides on the PDF page. > > > >We have experimented with specifying different Views (Fit, FitH, XYZ > >zoom, etc.) in the Xyvision PDF Support Spec, but it appears that in > >order to succeed we would need to specify the actual page coordinates > >for every destination (which Exchange apparently knows how to do, but we > >don't). > > > >Is there a way that we can accomplish this through some automated means > >(i.e., without using Exchange)? We would potentially be doing this for > >thousands of PDF files. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 0:02:08-GMT,1707;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26998 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 18:02:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25696; Thu, 7 May 1998 18:40:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 May 1998 18:30:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24728; Thu, 7 May 1998 18:30:33 -0500 From: "David Pancoast" To: "Pdf" Subject: [PDF] PDF Expiration date? Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 16:32:00 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bd7a10$55d48b60$9e7e93d0@dpancoa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am curious about maintaining a certain amount of control over on-line forms. Specifically, some sort of expiration date would suit my needs well. (Signet is VERY much out of my price range). Is anyone aware of any other 'time-lock' strategy for PDF? Thanks, and Regards, David Pancoast Las Vegas, NV ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 1:01:20-GMT,2684;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28134 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 19:01:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA31224; Thu, 7 May 1998 19:41:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 May 1998 19:34:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA30392; Thu, 7 May 1998 19:34:31 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Expiration date? Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 01:08:50 +0100 Message-ID: <001101bd7a18$e9d201a0$a6f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001bd7a10$55d48b60$9e7e93d0@dpancoa> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I am curious about maintaining a certain amount of control > over on-line > forms. Specifically, some sort of expiration date would suit > my needs well. > (Signet is VERY much out of my price range). Is anyone aware > of any other > 'time-lock' strategy for PDF? The best way to achieve this is via a plug-in, which the user is forced to install to use your forms. This is important; you have to decide whether this is a disincentive that may put off users. No other strategy based on unlocking the file and extracting a usable PDF is effective, because the user can save the form and reuse it. I believe the price of FileOpen (http://www.fileopen.com) is about half that of Signet. Might or might not suit you. Another intriguing possibility is to use the new forms author. This supports JavaScript so you could check the date. Now, to use JavaScript, the user must have installed the new forms filler. Without it your checks will do nothing. However, you could have the important parts of your form invisible, and made visible by JavaScript. You may also want to ask yourself how much time and effort you want to invest in a protection plan which can be circumvented by the user setting their PC's clock back. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 1:46:44-GMT,3217;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29007 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 19:46:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA02344; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:28:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 May 1998 20:21:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01585; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:21:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Expiration date? Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 09:23:53 +0800 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 just my two cents worth: could you make it count the number of times the PDF file is opened? would that be better for you? > -----Original Message----- > From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 8:09 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Expiration date? > > > > > I am curious about maintaining a certain amount of control > > over on-line > > forms. Specifically, some sort of expiration date would suit > > my needs well. > > (Signet is VERY much out of my price range). Is anyone aware > > of any other > > 'time-lock' strategy for PDF? > > The best way to achieve this is via a plug-in, which the user > is forced to install to use your forms. This is important; you > have to decide whether this is a disincentive that may put off > users. > > No other strategy based on unlocking the file and extracting > a usable PDF is effective, because the user can save the > form and reuse it. > > I believe the price of FileOpen (http://www.fileopen.com) is about > half that of Signet. Might or might not suit you. > > Another intriguing possibility is to use the new forms author. > This supports JavaScript so you could check the date. Now, to > use JavaScript, the user must have installed the new forms filler. > Without it your checks will do nothing. However, you could have > the important parts of your form invisible, and made visible by > JavaScript. > > You may also want to ask yourself how much time and effort you > want to invest in a protection plan which can be circumvented by > the user setting their PC's clock back. > > Aandi > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 2:03:59-GMT,4297;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29338 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:03:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA04742; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:54:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 May 1998 20:49:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA04243; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:49:00 -0500 From: "David Pancoast" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Expiration date? Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 18:50:26 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bd7a23$abe81680$a17e93d0@dpancoa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mr. Wraight's suggestion may have prodded me toward a simple answer. This is not a high-security concern -- I just need to address it in some manner. Each of the forms has a date field. If I permit the user to select only the month and day (with the year being fixed, or restricted), a 'legacy' form will be recognizable. It's not high-tech, but it's easy and cheap! -- David Pancoast -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On Behalf Of Wraight, David D. Sent: Thursday, May 07, 1998 6:24 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Expiration date? Importance: High just my two cents worth: could you make it count the number of times the PDF file is opened? would that be better for you? > -----Original Message----- > From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 8:09 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Expiration date? > > > > > I am curious about maintaining a certain amount of control > > over on-line > > forms. Specifically, some sort of expiration date would suit > > my needs well. > > (Signet is VERY much out of my price range). Is anyone aware > > of any other > > 'time-lock' strategy for PDF? > > The best way to achieve this is via a plug-in, which the user > is forced to install to use your forms. This is important; you > have to decide whether this is a disincentive that may put off > users. > > No other strategy based on unlocking the file and extracting > a usable PDF is effective, because the user can save the > form and reuse it. > > I believe the price of FileOpen (http://www.fileopen.com) is about > half that of Signet. Might or might not suit you. > > Another intriguing possibility is to use the new forms author. > This supports JavaScript so you could check the date. Now, to > use JavaScript, the user must have installed the new forms filler. > Without it your checks will do nothing. However, you could have > the important parts of your form invisible, and made visible by > JavaScript. > > You may also want to ask yourself how much time and effort you > want to invest in a protection plan which can be circumvented by > the user setting their PC's clock back. > > Aandi > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 2:58:54-GMT,4747;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00410 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:58:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA08479; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:37:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 May 1998 21:32:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA08036; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:32:18 -0500 From: Joe.Cincotta@eurorscg.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: EURORSCG_SYD To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <4A2565FE.000D18C7.00@Sydney2> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 12:35:48 +1000 Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Expiration date? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Joe Cincotta@EURORSCG_SYD on 08/05/98 12:35 Maybe a combination of these techniques would work well. Create global.myformcode_openKey and make them persistent variables (across PDF sessions) - seperate openKey into the folowing var's: openCount openDate formKey Then set up a check which compares the expiration date with the openDate and the current date : the openDate variable should be set again at the END of each session (make it happen on a document close action) - thus if todays date is EARLIER than the last time it was opened - quit, if todays date is older than the expiry date - quit, if openDate has been the same and openCount (increment on document close as well) for, say, 10 times... you can guess that they are going to a lot of trouble to use this form and you can put an end to their misery - quit! The formKey should be an ID of the latest form. Before doing any of the checks above when openening the doc you should check the ID with the current form ID. - each version ID should be incremented and just test (formKey -----Original Message----- > From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 8:09 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Expiration date? > > > > > I am curious about maintaining a certain amount of control > > over on-line > > forms. Specifically, some sort of expiration date would suit > > my needs well. > > (Signet is VERY much out of my price range). Is anyone aware > > of any other > > 'time-lock' strategy for PDF? > > The best way to achieve this is via a plug-in, which the user > is forced to install to use your forms. This is important; you > have to decide whether this is a disincentive that may put off > users. > > No other strategy based on unlocking the file and extracting > a usable PDF is effective, because the user can save the > form and reuse it. > > I believe the price of FileOpen (http://www.fileopen.com) is about > half that of Signet. Might or might not suit you. > > Another intriguing possibility is to use the new forms author. > This supports JavaScript so you could check the date. Now, to > use JavaScript, the user must have installed the new forms filler. > Without it your checks will do nothing. However, you could have > the important parts of your form invisible, and made visible by > JavaScript. > > You may also want to ask yourself how much time and effort you > want to invest in a protection plan which can be circumvented by > the user setting their PC's clock back. > > Aandi > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 5:15:46-GMT,1859;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03023 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 23:15:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13314; Thu, 7 May 1998 23:49:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 May 1998 23:43:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13110; Thu, 7 May 1998 23:43:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199805080443.XAA13106@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Expiration date? Date: Fri, 8 May 98 00:42:44 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Virginia Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 5/7/98 7:32 PM, David Pancoast wrote: > >I am curious about maintaining a certain amount of control over on-line >forms. Specifically, some sort of expiration date would suit my needs well. >(Signet is VERY much out of my price range). Is anyone aware of any other >'time-lock' strategy for PDF? > >Thanks, and Regards, >David Pancoast >Las Vegas, NV > David, You may want to check out our product TimedOut. Contact me off line for more specific information. Virginia Gavin President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 vgavin@digapp.com http://www.digapp.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 6:48:27-GMT,1668;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12493 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 00:48:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA16738; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:21:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 01:13:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA16470; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:13:35 -0500 From: ckr@ascad.de Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980508080952.00944980@hackfix> X-Sender: kruhs@hackfix X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 08:09:52 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] fdf -> pdf -> lp ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, do I have a change to import fdf-data into a pdf-file and then print the pdf-file ? I have to do this as a background process (UNIX). The command "cat data.fdf | /opt/Acrobat3/bin/acroexch -toPostScript | lp" causes a "File does not begin with '%PDF-" error ! Or is there a way to save the pdf-file automatically after importing the fdf-data ? After that I can print the pdf-file. Does anybody have an idea ? Thanks, Carsten ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 9:32:12-GMT,3111;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28882 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 03:32:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA21225; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:10:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 04:03:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA21053; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:03:40 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412565FE.0036A651.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 11:00:07 +0100 Subject: Antwort: AW: Antwort: AW: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Tom, I've tried to modify the PPD-file. But my 'hacking' was not successful. Is anyone capable to modify the PPD-file, that i can define my own standard fonts (like the 13 in the fonts directory)? Any tips? Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) tm_consult@t-online.de on 04.05.98 14:56:54 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: AW: Antwort: AW: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Sorry, Laura, I suppose there should be a possibility to modify Distiller's PPD file. Probably someone can help. Tom + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Thomas Mueller Author and Consultant for Digital Communication P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html ---------- Von: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Gesendet: Montag, 4. Mai 1998 16:05 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: Antwort: AW: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Distiller - Embedding All Fonts Hi I did *not* want to know where to substitute the fonts The question is, is there an alternative to generate a printer font which i can substitute a TTF font with? Situation: I got an PS-Font similar to my TTF font Now i want the PSfont to appear in the fontssubstitution table (printer->propertiers->font->font substitution table ->printer font for...) is there an alternative besides buying a 90$ ATM license for EACH exchange user? Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 11:56:04-GMT,2240;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA02385 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 05:56:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA24905; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:26:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 06:18:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24679; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:18:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3552E9DF.6169DD3A@dwsd.org> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 07:17:51 -0400 From: "James Balogh" Organization: Detroit Water & Sewerage Department X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Meta Tags Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1B1DD06A40E0301606E65CC6" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1B1DD06A40E0301606E65CC6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a way to include META TAGS in a PDF document? My Boss thinks that he saw, somewhere, an article regarding using META Tags with a PDF file. Can it be done? If so, what do I do? TIA --------------1B1DD06A40E0301606E65CC6 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Balogh, James Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: James Balogh n: Balogh;James org: Detroit Water & Sewerage Department email;internet: balogh@dwsd.org title: Clerk tel;work: 1-313-297-5845 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------1B1DD06A40E0301606E65CC6-- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 15:23:27-GMT,2535;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09507 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:23:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA01072; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:59:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 09:53:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00818; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:53:21 -0500 Message-ID: <007901bd7a91$57c7f250$151aa4cd@olympus.pr.mcs.net> From: "Jeremy Treister" To: Subject: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 09:55:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This may be a cross platform issue, but I am only concerned with Windows 95 / NT for the purposes of my product. My understanding of the QuickTime licensee agreement is that if a developer distributes a PDF based product with Acrobat Reader, the developer can also include the installer for QuickTime 2.12. If you go to the Apple QuickTime web-site, it looks like it is no longer legal to distribute Quick Time 2.x. When I tried uninstalling QuickTime 2.12, then installing QuickTime3, I could no longer view the QuickTime movie which is in my PDF based product. If anyone has any further insight, please pass it along. Until Adobe Acrobat is compatible with the new version of Apple QuickTime, it seems a lot of people (general users) will have problems with QuickTime files. I have both QuickTime 2.12 AND QuickTime 3 on my WinNT machine now! everything works, but common wisdom says to remove the old version when upgrading- in the case of PDF compatibility this is not true. Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software, Inc. Visual Business Management e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com v 312.786.1330.515 f 312.786.1324 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 14:10:09-GMT,3465;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06266 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:10:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA30268; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:45:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 08:40:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29949; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:40:57 -0500 Message-ID: <35530B5B.31CA2747@beacon.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 09:40:43 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Views References: <3552175F.C3AE8C47@aip.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jerry McCarthy wrote: > > Thanks to Scott Hamlow for the attempted help, but perhaps I wasn't > sufficiently clear in my original post. We've been able to use a > specific value (such as the suggested 796) as the parameter for the Fit > type, but this locks us into an undesirable one-size-fits-all situation. > In the case of "/FitH 796", for every weblink to a named destination the > browser would then display a view of the top left corner of the *page* > on which that destination resides. This is not what we want. > > Rather, we wish to be able to display a view in which the *named > destination text* appears at the top left corner of the browser, > regardless of where that text occurs on the actual PDF page. OK, you've probably already convinced yourself that a *static* value is not going to work, then. Acrobat seems to have no built-in ability to calculate the relative position of the named destination, where one could supply a keyword like /Top--it requires *you* to supply a hard vertical offset in the pdfmark. I came to the same conclusion when doing something like this myself. What I did--and unfortunately I can't remember the specifics--was to replace the fixed number with a calculation based on currentpoint. The value becomes fixed at distill-time, and therefore is sensitive to page rejustification, etc. This is a little shaky but should work reliably in most situations. I.e., /FitH currentpoint exch pop 10 add % 10 points of readability space above If you're working with Xyvision macros that spit out pdfmarks for you, then you may have to jump through some hoops to get something "non-standard" like this through your formatter. Also, if that is the case, you might want to think a little bit about making sure the macro will spit out the pdfmark in the proper place within the PostScript file (adjacent to the position of the text you want to link to), and that it will not somehow "delay" the outputting of the pdfmark, since doing so would probably mean currentpoint would then be in a different place then you expect/want; or worse, that a page break could occur (yow). Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 14:12:48-GMT,1993;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06365 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:12:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA30492; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:50:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 08:46:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30301; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:46:49 -0500 Message-ID: <35530CBC.24D1FAB@beacon.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 09:46:36 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Meta Tags References: <3552E9DF.6169DD3A@dwsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 James Balogh wrote: > > Is there a way to include META TAGS in a PDF document? > > My Boss thinks that he saw, somewhere, an article regarding using > META Tags with a PDF file. Can it be done? If so, what do I do? I think there may be some confusion there with HTML. PDF files don't really even have "tags", in today's common use of the term in a web context. However, along the same lines there are some mechanisms to embed private meta-information in PDF files that can be searched on. C.f. Adobe Technical Note 5150, the pdfmark reference guide, p. 37, "Info Dictionary", or post again if this is something you need information about. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 16:17:30-GMT,2270;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11719 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 10:17:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA04558; Fri, 8 May 1998 10:57:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 10:53:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04323; Fri, 8 May 1998 10:53:13 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980508105307.010c1f10@execulink.com> X-Sender: mstowe@execulink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 10:53:07 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Marg Stowe Subject: [PDF] pdf for music Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I use Encore by Passport to create printed music. When I need to send music to clients or musicians in other cities, I create pdf files and send them that way. It is a great way to exchange music. I do have a problem though. Often there are note stems missing or other markings may be missing. It doesn't seem to matter what settings I choose, I get the same results. Often the files are perfect but often there are problems, which makes the whole thing less than perfect. Here is my process: 1.In Encore, I print to a postscipt file using the most recent postscript printer driver supplied by Adobe. 2.I open Acrobat Distiller (v3.02, most recent) and create the pdf file from a .ps file (actually the latest driver creates .prn files). I have tried Acrobat 2.1 and 3.0 compatability as well as several distiller 'job' options but I get the same results. Can anyone offer any help or hints on how I can correct this problem. Thanks, Marg Marg Stowe mstowe@execulink.com http://www.execulink.com/~mstowe ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 16:36:16-GMT,1921;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12500 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 10:36:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05608; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:16:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 11:12:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05394; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:12:12 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD7A7B.A7CDF260.rlandis@pit-magnus.com> From: Ray Landis To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] "White type" in an index search Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 12:20:11 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Have an unusual project where pages created in Quark (Mac) have headings which the customer wants to be white but still be searchable in a PDF file. In this way the Postscript file will print to paper without the heading text appearing, but (and this is key) these headings should be unviewable but searchable in PDF. All attempts at this have failed with the search engine unable to find these "white" headings. When the headings are saved as black text they are then fully searchable just as the rest of the page is. Does anyone know of a way in which we could maintain white text and still have it searchable as a part of the PDF file? Thanks, Ray Landis Progressive Information Technologies ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 17:18:40-GMT,2895;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14911 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:18:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07273; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:47:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 11:44:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07043; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:44:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3553368B.E145870E@glyphica.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 09:45:00 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] "White type" in an index search References: <01BD7A7B.A7CDF260.rlandis@pit-magnus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This isn't the most elegant solution, but you could print the PDF in black then change its color with the touch up text tool. We HAVE been able to achieve what you describe from the source application, although we haven't tried it with Quark. Deidre Paknad ......................................... Glyphica Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com VISIT the PDF magazine on the WEB --> PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.PurePDF.com ......................................... Ray Landis wrote: > Have an unusual project where pages created in Quark (Mac) have headings > which the customer wants to be white but still be searchable in a PDF file. > In this way the Postscript file will print to paper without the heading > text appearing, but (and this is key) these headings should be unviewable > but searchable in PDF. All attempts at this have failed with the search > engine unable to find these "white" headings. When the headings are saved > as black text they are then fully searchable just as the rest of the page > is. Does anyone know of a way in which we could maintain white text and > still have it searchable as a part of the PDF file? > > Thanks, > Ray Landis > Progressive Information Technologies > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 17:24:51-GMT,1863;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15409 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:24:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA08364; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:11:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 12:08:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08241; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:08:56 -0500 Message-ID: <2F7252AEE1FAD0118C770000F802E7339A1832@ADMINMAIL.cdc.state.ca.us> From: "McKee, Kevin" To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] Problem Embedding pdfmark Code in Word 97 for Win32 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 09:57:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm embedding pdfmark code in a Word 97 document using print fields to add links. Adding a couple of paragraphs and insert the pdfmark code seems to work just fine, but as soon as I add a header or footer the links no longer work or the whole page becomes a link. Has anyone run into this problem? The print field that I'm inserting looks like this: {PRINT \p para "[ /Rect [ wp$box pathbbox ] /Page 3 /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark " \* MERGEFORMAT} Any input on this problem would be greatly appreciated. Kevin McKee CA Dept. of Corrections kmckee@adminsvcs.corr.ca.gov ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 17:26:14-GMT,2274;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15483 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:26:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA08517; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:14:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 12:12:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08395; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:12:35 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 17:50:23 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bd7aa4$5ba04fe0$46f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <007901bd7a91$57c7f250$151aa4cd@olympus.pr.mcs.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Until Adobe Acrobat is compatible with the new version of > Apple QuickTime, > it seems a lot of people (general users) will have problems > with QuickTime > files. I have both QuickTime 2.12 AND QuickTime 3 on my WinNT > machine now! > everything works, but common wisdom says to remove the old > version when > upgrading- in the case of PDF compatibility this is not true. Does anyone know the inside (i.e. developer-level) story? Did Apple release a new version of QuickTime which is not compatible with the API of its predecessor - which seems dumb and highly inconvenient? Or did, perhaps, Adobe have a coding error which QuickTime 3 pinpointed, as (ironically) Acrobat has pinpointed so many video driver bugs in the past. Or, has QT 3 been released with a major bug? Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 17:30:17-GMT,2063;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15782 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:30:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA08761; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:19:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 12:16:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08632; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:16:49 -0500 Message-Id: <9805081716.AA03672@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf for music Date: Fri, 8 May 98 13:21:21 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >1.In Encore, I print to a postscipt file using the most recent postscript >printer driver supplied by Adobe. >2.I open Acrobat Distiller (v3.02, most recent) and create the pdf file >from a .ps file (actually the latest driver creates .prn files). > >I have tried Acrobat 2.1 and 3.0 compatability as well as several distiller >'job' options but I get the same results. Have you tried changing your "Preserve" ATM setting from line spacing (which it defaults to) to Character shapes? Not sure if this will do anything, but it might be worth a try... Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 17:34:23-GMT,2442;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16104 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:34:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA08758; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:18:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 12:16:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08599; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:16:17 -0500 From: "Norman Brandsma" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Catalog Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 17:14:18 -0600 Message-Id: <980508111627DH.00422@ttgkami.edm.ttg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Internet MailBridge Gateway 1.41.168 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have a client that uses PDF files to distribute important and evergreen information to several sites throughout Canada. Each site requires specific information pertaining only to their operations and have only Acrobat Reader installed. Currently, when old files are updated or new files become available Indexes are updated at head office. The files and updated Indexes are then sent to the sites via 28.8 connection. These files are usually quite big and take sometime to send. Our client would like to distribute Catalog to each of the sites and have the sites automate an Index update when they receive new and updated files. They'd rather not purchase the entire Exchange suite for each site for this single task. I am curious as to whether anyone else has encountered this problem and how they may have resolved it. I realize that Catalog is part of the Exchange suite and as such should fall under the Exchange software license agreement, but maybe not. Has Adobe made an exception for anyone with a similar problem? Norm Brandsma Production Coordinator TTG Systems Inc. nbrandsma@ttg-inc.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 17:53:01-GMT,2016;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16959 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:53:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09568; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:35:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 12:32:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09364; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:32:55 -0500 Message-ID: <355341AB.D914C236@beacon.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 13:32:27 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem Embedding pdfmark Code in Word 97 for Win32 References: <2F7252AEE1FAD0118C770000F802E7339A1832@ADMINMAIL.cdc.state.ca.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 McKee, Kevin wrote: > > Adding a couple of paragraphs and insert the pdfmark code > seems to work just fine, but as soon as I add a header or footer the > links no longer work or the whole page becomes a link. Has anyone run > into this problem? > > The print field that I'm inserting looks like this: > {PRINT \p para "[ /Rect [ wp$box pathbbox ] /Page 3 /Subtype /Link /ANN > pdfmark " \* MERGEFORMAT} What is wp$box? Is it documented? Sounds to me like adding a header or footer is implicitly changing the value of wp$box, thus giving you a different value for /Rect in your pdfmark. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 17:53:52-GMT,3847;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17010 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:53:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09569; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:35:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 12:33:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09414; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:33:12 -0500 Message-ID: <002201bd7aa7$5e02a280$63af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:33:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yep... if there's a nail, you hit it on the head. Over on the Quicktime developers list this is a common rant. Incompatibility with Quicktime 3.0 is not only an Acrobat problem... it affects Macromedia Director and other development systems as well. Basically, if you follow the Apple guidelines, your screwed, at least until Acrobat gets upgraded, then you have the whole Quicktime spam problem to get over. Apple is being silent about this mess which is even more irritating than if they just said 'Deal with it'. In the mean time, you join the rest of us out here in the cold with deadlines looming and no paddle. Since your are only concerned with Windows you might want to look into Quicktime to AVI converters. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Treister To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 10:56 AM Subject: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader > >This may be a cross platform issue, but I am only concerned with Windows 95 >/ NT for the purposes of my product. > >My understanding of the QuickTime licensee agreement is that if a developer >distributes a PDF based product with Acrobat Reader, the developer can also >include the installer for QuickTime 2.12. > >If you go to the Apple QuickTime web-site, it looks like it is no longer >legal to distribute Quick Time 2.x. > >When I tried uninstalling QuickTime 2.12, then installing QuickTime3, I >could no longer view the QuickTime movie which is in my PDF based product. > >If anyone has any further insight, please pass it along. > >Until Adobe Acrobat is compatible with the new version of Apple QuickTime, >it seems a lot of people (general users) will have problems with QuickTime >files. I have both QuickTime 2.12 AND QuickTime 3 on my WinNT machine now! >everything works, but common wisdom says to remove the old version when >upgrading- in the case of PDF compatibility this is not true. > >Jeremy Treister > Sensorium Software, Inc. > Visual Business Management >e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com > v 312.786.1330.515 > f 312.786.1324 > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 17:54:25-GMT,3236;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17072 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:54:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09820; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:41:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 12:38:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09692; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:38:53 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD7A87.C395F400.rlandis@pit-magnus.com> From: Ray Landis To: "'PDF@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] "White type" Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:46:49 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We tried this already, but this text tool, being buggy as it is had the affect of moving type around on the page. It did this inconsistently but enough to rule it out as an option. Ray Landis This isn't the most elegant solution, but you could print the PDF in black then change its color with the touch up text tool. We HAVE been able to achieve what you describe from the source application, although we haven't tried it with Quark. Deidre Paknad ......................................... Glyphica Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com VISIT the PDF magazine on the WEB --> PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.PurePDF.com ......................................... Ray Landis wrote: > Have an unusual project where pages created in Quark (Mac) have headings > which the customer wants to be white but still be searchable in a PDF file. > In this way the Postscript file will print to paper without the heading > text appearing, but (and this is key) these headings should be unviewable > but searchable in PDF. All attempts at this have failed with the search > engine unable to find these "white" headings. When the headings are saved > as black text they are then fully searchable just as the rest of the page > is. Does anyone know of a way in which we could maintain white text and > still have it searchable as a part of the PDF file? > > Thanks, > Ray Landis > Progressive Information Technologies > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 18:00:52-GMT,2422;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17296 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:00:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10236; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:49:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 12:46:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10046; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:46:43 -0500 Message-Id: <9805081746.AA08854@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] "White type" in an index search Date: Fri, 8 May 98 13:51:06 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I guess you are either searching with something other than the "find" tool within Acrobat - as I tried the all of the below, and found all instances to work - or perhaps all of these worked for me because I saved as eps from Quark - as opposed to printed the file to disk? pehaps one of the following will work for you. 1. Colored the type white 2. Colored the type white, and colored the box it was in red under Edit/Edit Color - 3. made a new color called Zero percent. it is CMYK, 0000 - colored the text that color, and searched for the word, and found it. But it is invisible...till you seach for it. 4. made some type black, but changed the shade to 0% 5. made the type yellow, but changed it to 1% 6. Made the type black in Quark, Distilled, selected the type using the touch up tool, went into the text atributes tool, changed it to 0 Cyan 0 Magenta 0 Yellow 0 blacK. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 18:13:34-GMT,3485;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17779 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:13:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10801; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:59:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 12:57:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10604; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:57:16 -0500 Message-ID: <000801bd7ab3$909bb4a0$d4318081@Mitchell.biology.ualberta.ca> From: "Bev Mitchell" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 12:00:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Same problem here using Win95. I put QT 3.0 on a new PII-300 then declined to install QT 2.1 when installing Acrobat. Of course, QT 3.0 would not work within Exchange 3.0. I then installed Acrobat Reader 3.0 (from the Adobe-supplied CD) and chose the option of installing QT 2.1 without uninstalling QT 3.0. So far so good, though it's early days yet. Will a new version of Acrobat be out soon? Bev -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Treister To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 7:55 AM Subject: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader > >This may be a cross platform issue, but I am only concerned with Windows 95 >/ NT for the purposes of my product. > >My understanding of the QuickTime licensee agreement is that if a developer >distributes a PDF based product with Acrobat Reader, the developer can also >include the installer for QuickTime 2.12. > >If you go to the Apple QuickTime web-site, it looks like it is no longer >legal to distribute Quick Time 2.x. > >When I tried uninstalling QuickTime 2.12, then installing QuickTime3, I >could no longer view the QuickTime movie which is in my PDF based product. > >If anyone has any further insight, please pass it along. > >Until Adobe Acrobat is compatible with the new version of Apple QuickTime, >it seems a lot of people (general users) will have problems with QuickTime >files. I have both QuickTime 2.12 AND QuickTime 3 on my WinNT machine now! >everything works, but common wisdom says to remove the old version when >upgrading- in the case of PDF compatibility this is not true. > >Jeremy Treister > Sensorium Software, Inc. > Visual Business Management >e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com > v 312.786.1330.515 > f 312.786.1324 > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 18:18:08-GMT,4916;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18008 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:18:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11230; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:07:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 13:05:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11103; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:04:59 -0500 From: jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENSORIUM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <862565FE.00630B2E.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:03:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 AVI does not work with Acrobat, does it? I did not think that there was built in functionality to Acrobat to include AVI movies. Jeremy Treister "Chris Lane" on 05/08/98 12:33:07 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Jeremy Treister/Sensorium) Subject: Re: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader Yep... if there's a nail, you hit it on the head. Over on the Quicktime developers list this is a common rant. Incompatibility with Quicktime 3.0 is not only an Acrobat problem... it affects Macromedia Director and other development systems as well. Basically, if you follow the Apple guidelines, your screwed, at least until Acrobat gets upgraded, then you have the whole Quicktime spam problem to get over. Apple is being silent about this mess which is even more irritating than if they just said 'Deal with it'. In the mean time, you join the rest of us out here in the cold with deadlines looming and no paddle. Since your are only concerned with Windows you might want to look into Quicktime to AVI converters. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Treister To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 10:56 AM Subject: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader > >This may be a cross platform issue, but I am only concerned with Windows 95 >/ NT for the purposes of my product. > >My understanding of the QuickTime licensee agreement is that if a developer >distributes a PDF based product with Acrobat Reader, the developer can also >include the installer for QuickTime 2.12. > >If you go to the Apple QuickTime web-site, it looks like it is no longer >legal to distribute Quick Time 2.x. > >When I tried uninstalling QuickTime 2.12, then installing QuickTime3, I >could no longer view the QuickTime movie which is in my PDF based product. > >If anyone has any further insight, please pass it along. > >Until Adobe Acrobat is compatible with the new version of Apple QuickTime, >it seems a lot of people (general users) will have problems with QuickTime >files. I have both QuickTime 2.12 AND QuickTime 3 on my WinNT machine now! >everything works, but common wisdom says to remove the old version when >upgrading- in the case of PDF compatibility this is not true. > >Jeremy Treister > Sensorium Software, Inc. > Visual Business Management >e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com > v 312.786.1330.515 > f 312.786.1324 > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 18:37:08-GMT,4059;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18822 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:37:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11851; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:16:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 13:13:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11611; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:13:00 -0500 Message-ID: <35534CAF.57822CE6@glyphica.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 11:19:27 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] "White type" References: <01BD7A87.C395F400.rlandis@pit-magnus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PitStop works much better ... usually. -Deidre ......................................... Glyphica Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com VISIT the PDF magazine on the WEB --> PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.PurePDF.com ......................................... Ray Landis wrote: > We tried this already, but this text tool, being buggy as it is had the > affect of moving type around on the page. It did this inconsistently but > enough to rule it out as an option. > > Ray Landis > > This isn't the most elegant solution, but you could print the PDF in black > then change its color with the touch up text tool. We HAVE been able to > achieve what you describe from the source application, although we haven't > tried it with Quark. > Deidre Paknad > ......................................... > Glyphica Content Management & Production > http://www.glyphica.com > VISIT the PDF magazine on the WEB --> > PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web > http://www.PurePDF.com > ......................................... > Ray Landis wrote: > > Have an unusual project where pages created in Quark (Mac) have headings > > which the customer wants to be white but still be searchable in a PDF > file. > > In this way the Postscript file will print to paper without the heading > > text appearing, but (and this is key) these headings should be unviewable > > but searchable in PDF. All attempts at this have failed with the search > > engine unable to find these "white" headings. When the headings are > saved > > as black text they are then fully searchable just as the rest of the page > > is. Does anyone know of a way in which we could maintain white text and > > still have it searchable as a part of the PDF file? > > > > Thanks, > > Ray Landis > > Progressive Information Technologies > > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > > For more info: John Cook > > List-related questions: > > Sub/Unsub: > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 18:38:29-GMT,4527;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18900 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:38:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11999; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:19:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 13:16:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11806; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:16:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] "White type" Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 11:17:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A couple of other ideas to try: 1) Create two sets of documents, one set with black type and the other set with white type. Build your index using the set with the black type and then switch that set out with the set created with white type. 2) Another idea would be to create you documents with black type then build your index. Afterwards, go into Exchange and use the Form tool to draw a rectangle over the type that you want hidden. The box should have a white background and make sure that the option to "Don't Print" is not checked in the box attributes under the Appearance tab. I've not tried the first option, but the second one works. Randy Johnston -----Original Message----- From: Ray Landis [mailto:rlandis@pit-magnus.com] Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 10:47 AM To: 'PDF@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] "White type" We tried this already, but this text tool, being buggy as it is had the affect of moving type around on the page. It did this inconsistently but enough to rule it out as an option. Ray Landis This isn't the most elegant solution, but you could print the PDF in black then change its color with the touch up text tool. We HAVE been able to achieve what you describe from the source application, although we haven't tried it with Quark. Deidre Paknad ......................................... Glyphica Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com VISIT the PDF magazine on the WEB --> PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.PurePDF.com ......................................... Ray Landis wrote: > Have an unusual project where pages created in Quark (Mac) have headings > which the customer wants to be white but still be searchable in a PDF file. > In this way the Postscript file will print to paper without the heading > text appearing, but (and this is key) these headings should be unviewable > but searchable in PDF. All attempts at this have failed with the search > engine unable to find these "white" headings. When the headings are saved > as black text they are then fully searchable just as the rest of the page > is. Does anyone know of a way in which we could maintain white text and > still have it searchable as a part of the PDF file? > > Thanks, > Ray Landis > Progressive Information Technologies > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 18:49:58-GMT,3467;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19269 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:49:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13041; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:37:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 13:33:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12799; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:33:00 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Problem Embedding pdfmark Code in Word 97 for Win32 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 12:33:09 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >The print field that I'm inserting looks like this: >{PRINT \p para "[ /Rect [ wp$box pathbbox ] /Page 3 /Subtype /Link /ANN >pdfmark " \* MERGEFORMAT} First I would get rid of the \* MERGEFORMAT. If you are inserting the field from the menu, uncheck the option that says "Preserve Formatting During Updates". When I insert these manually, I usually just use Ctrl+F9 from the keyboard. Also, you should have a space after the leading "{" and another before the trailing "}". Otherwise the generated PostScript codes can bump into each other. You may want to open your generated PostScript file in Word as a Text file and look at it. What may be causing the problem may be the size (height) of the paragraph. The Word Help says that the paragraph should be at least one inch tall for "para" to produce a result. I have sometimes used rows or cells of tables to make sure this is not a problem. You can create a 1-row, 1-column table with no border so that it does not look like a table. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation > ---------- > From: McKee, Kevin[SMTP:KMcKee@adminsvcs.corr.ca.gov] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 9:57 AM > To: 'PDF List' > Subject: [PDF] Problem Embedding pdfmark Code in Word 97 for > Win32 > > > I'm embedding pdfmark code in a Word 97 document using print fields to > add links. Adding a couple of paragraphs and insert the pdfmark code > seems to work just fine, but as soon as I add a header or footer the > links no longer work or the whole page becomes a link. Has anyone run > into this problem? > > The print field that I'm inserting looks like this: > {PRINT \p para "[ /Rect [ wp$box pathbbox ] /Page 3 /Subtype /Link > /ANN > pdfmark " \* MERGEFORMAT} > > Any input on this problem would be greatly appreciated. > > Kevin McKee > CA Dept. of Corrections > kmckee@adminsvcs.corr.ca.gov > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 19:24:14-GMT,3703;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20475 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:24:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA14372; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:05:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 14:01:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14186; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:01:21 -0500 Message-ID: <2F7252AEE1FAD0118C770000F802E7339A1835@ADMINMAIL.cdc.state.ca.us> From: "McKee, Kevin" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Problem Embedding pdfmark Code in Word 97 for Win32 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 12:04:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 wp$ variables are documented in word help. This is a clip from Word 97 Help: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Variables for PostScript commands Word defines variables for use with the PostScript commands specified in a PRINT field. Values represented by the variables are in points, which is the standard PostScript unit. Variables for all groups The variables in the following table are available to all groups of PostScript commands. Variable Specifies wp$page The current page number. wp$fpage The formatted page number (string). wp$date The current date (formatted). wp$time The current time (formatted). wp$box The path containing the drawing rectangle. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not really an expert with postscript. I copied the print field code from Thomas Merz's book Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF. Chapter 6 of his book, pdfmark primer, has examples on embedding pdfmark code in a word document using print fields. This chapter is definitely worth reading if you do any pdfmark coding! A PDF version of this chapter 6 is available online: http://www.muc.de/~tm/pdfmark_e/index.html > ---------- > From: Cory Snavely[SMTP:snavely@beacon.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 10:32 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem Embedding pdfmark Code in Word 97 for > Win32 > > > McKee, Kevin wrote: > > > > Adding a couple of paragraphs and insert the pdfmark code > > seems to work just fine, but as soon as I add a header or footer the > > links no longer work or the whole page becomes a link. Has anyone > run > > into this problem? > > > > The print field that I'm inserting looks like this: > > {PRINT \p para "[ /Rect [ wp$box pathbbox ] /Page 3 /Subtype /Link > /ANN > > pdfmark " \* MERGEFORMAT} > > What is wp$box? Is it documented? Sounds to me like adding a header > or footer > is implicitly changing the value of wp$box, thus giving you a > different value > for /Rect in your pdfmark. > > Cory Snavely > The Beacon Group > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 21:15:43-GMT,4125;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24710 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 15:15:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA20097; Fri, 8 May 1998 15:54:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 15:50:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19642; Fri, 8 May 1998 15:50:17 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Catalog Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 21:49:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bd7ac2$cd76c900$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <980508111627DH.00422@ttgkami.edm.ttg> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I hate to interject commercial realism into a technical question - but does your client really have that many sites that they can not afford a copy of Exchange for each site and, if it is more than 20 sites, have they considered the Adobe Volume Purchase Plan which greatly reduces the cost of many copies of Exchange. You call the information "important" - can't be that important, definitely not mission critical. Why should Adobe make an exception? Sometimes the effort in getting around perfectly reasonable license costs is simply not worth it. Sorry for the rant - however it sometimes feels that everyone wants everything for nothing - lets inject some common sense here. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Norman Brandsma > Sent: 09 May 1998 00:14 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Catalog > > > > We have a client that uses PDF files to distribute important and > evergreen information to several sites throughout Canada. Each site > requires specific information pertaining only to their operations and > have only Acrobat Reader installed. > > Currently, when old files are updated or new files become > available Indexes are updated at head office. The files and > updated Indexes are then sent to the sites via 28.8 connection. > These files are usually quite big and take sometime to send. > > Our client would like to distribute Catalog to each of the sites > and have the sites automate an Index update when they receive new > and updated files. They'd rather not purchase the entire Exchange > suite for each site for this single task. > > I am curious as to whether anyone else has encountered this > problem and how they may have resolved it. I realize that Catalog > is part of the Exchange suite and as such should fall under the > Exchange software license agreement, but maybe not. Has Adobe > made an exception for anyone with a similar problem? > > Norm Brandsma > Production Coordinator > TTG Systems Inc. > nbrandsma@ttg-inc.com > > > > > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 21:16:37-GMT,2830;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24761 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 15:16:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA20757; Fri, 8 May 1998 15:59:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 15:55:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20186; Fri, 8 May 1998 15:55:28 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 15:53:51 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] .5.8.98 PDFzone *EXTRA* - Acrobat PDF Newsweekly Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ============================================================ V.03, N.13 PDFzone *EXTRA* is now available on the Web: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra50898.html ============================================================ The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + University Researchers, PR Staff Share Results via Net & PDF * news of latest scientific projects on two campuses + 'PDFzone Pick' - Acrobat-ic Recognition; PDF Forms Seminars * The PDFzone honors uses of PDF; Adobe offers sessions + Small Publishers Find PDF Offers Big Advantages * a look at a handful of several new e-pubs + 1998 Beetle is the 'Fab One' * crash tests show new Volkswagen is "crashworthy" + PDF Solves CAD Problem for Web Journal Editor/Technologist * Mac-to-PC crisis resolved soon after Acrobat installed + The Ideal Gift for Mrs. "Box of Chocolates" Gump * customization is made to order for holiday(s) + Recent Subscriber/Reader Feedback * EXTRA kudos; request for new forum topic on Catalog ... and more. Past issues are available at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Subscribe to the email version at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html rgds ~Kurt ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE 800/829-2459 - 608/829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: 608/829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 22:36:44-GMT,2220;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27379 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 16:36:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24608; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:17:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 17:12:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24391; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:12:35 -0500 From: kgabbert@tribune.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 17:09:17 -0500 Message-ID: <00008896.CE21252@tribune.com> Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] PDF to EPS doesn't retain crops To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just received a call regarding the following problem and was hoping someone may have a few thoughts and advice: A newspaper is receiving ads as PDF files; they open the ad in Exchange and crop out the ad agency's job ticket info, leaving only the true ad; the file is then exported as an eps file and sent to a Cascade system for processing; when the eps file is brought into Quark it is not retaining the crops, and looks as it did originally; they have tried to bring the PDF into Illustrator, perform a save as after the file is cropped, etc. but did find the most revealing information in BBedit; the size information given for the media box was the size of the original PDF file and the size listed for the crop box was the cropped size they want the ad to be; if they copy the size from the crop box field and paste it into the media box field all is ok. there has to be a better way... =) Thanks. Kara Gabbert Chicago Tribune 312-222-2117 kgabbert@tribune.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 22:37:03-GMT,1822;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27391 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 16:37:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24966; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:24:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 17:20:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24781; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:20:42 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Catalog Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 22:59:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bd7acf$66673260$46f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <980508111627DH.00422@ttgkami.edm.ttg> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 They can't afford $200 for Acrobat? I doubt Catalog has a separate deal; for a long time it cost $500, separately. > > Our client would like to distribute Catalog to each of the > sites and have the sites automate an Index update when they > receive new and updated files. They'd rather not purchase the > entire Exchange suite for each site for this single task. > Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 22:38:52-GMT,1792;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27506 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 16:38:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24965; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:24:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 17:20:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24757; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:20:38 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 22:55:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bd7acf$641bbbc0$46f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <862565FE.00630B2E.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > AVI does not work with Acrobat, does it? I did not think that > there was > built in functionality to Acrobat to include AVI movies. Windows Macintosh is happy with AVI (Video For Windows), if installed; it does not install the drivers but they are in any case native in Windows. Not very portable tho'. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-May-1998 23:35:39-GMT,3158;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29361 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:35:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA27152; Fri, 8 May 1998 18:20:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 18:15:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26997; Fri, 8 May 1998 18:15:53 -0500 Message-ID: <355391E6.AC2547F6@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 19:14:46 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to EPS doesn't retain crops References: <00008896.CE21252@tribune.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA26994 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 What are they using for a print driver. Adobe has newspaper PPD's designed for this kind of application. HTH Bob Moran kgabbert@tribune.com wrote: > I just received a call regarding the following problem and was hoping someone > may have a few thoughts and advice: > > A newspaper is receiving ads as PDF files; they open the ad in Exchange and crop > out the ad agency's job ticket info, leaving only the true ad; the file is then > exported as an eps file and sent to a Cascade system for processing; > > when the eps file is brought into Quark it is not retaining the crops, and looks > as it did originally; they have tried to bring the PDF into Illustrator, perform > a save as after the file is cropped, etc. but did find the most revealing > information in BBedit; > > the size information given for the media box was the size of the original PDF > file and the size listed for the crop box was the cropped size they want the ad > to be; if they copy the size from the crop box field and paste it into the media > box field all is ok. > > there has to be a better way... =) > > Thanks. > Kara Gabbert > Chicago Tribune > 312-222-2117 > kgabbert@tribune.com > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-May-1998 2:17:26-GMT,1856;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03470 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 19:51:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA30841; Fri, 8 May 1998 20:23:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 20:16:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA30601; Fri, 8 May 1998 20:16:01 -0500 X-ROUTED: Fri, 8 May 1998 21:16:18 -0400 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <01BD7AC6.5B6E23E0@s72.onix.com> From: Tony McKinley To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: printing manuals Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 21:14:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA30598 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 With all due humility, I would humbly invite you to take a look at my PDF book as one example of straddling the divide. The TOC and Index and Links buttons on our site total 5,500 hyperlinks in the book. Verity SearchPDF delivers hits-in-text highlights over the Web. You can print it out and the page numbers match. Unlike paper books, the 150 URL links to best info are constantly self-updated. Does that make it a dynabook? Regards, Tony http://imagebiz.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-May-1998 3:16:45-GMT,2128;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05444 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 20:54:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA00197; Fri, 8 May 1998 21:35:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 May 1998 21:30:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00080; Fri, 8 May 1998 21:30:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3553C047.7D904831@document-solutions.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 19:32:39 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: printing manuals References: <01BD7AC6.5B6E23E0@s72.onix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tony McKinley wrote: :-) > The TOC and Index and Links buttons on our site total 5,500 hyperlinks in the book. Verity SearchPDF delivers hits-in-text highlights over the Web. You can print it out and the page numbers match. Unlike paper books, the 150 URL links to best info are constantly self-updated. Does that make it a dynabook? Nope. When you edit the book, you do so in the authoring application, right? And you renumber pages, etc. there, right? Then you output to postscript, then Distill. You don't have a dynamic document -- an SGML document.... I love PDF -- but authoring dynamically with it is a kludge, at best. Of course, I would love to be proved wrong...... Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-May-1998 10:28:19-GMT,3022;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04179 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 04:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA11751; Sat, 9 May 1998 05:13:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 May 1998 05:09:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA11638; Sat, 9 May 1998 05:09:28 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: Re[2]: [PDF] PDF to EPS doesn't retain crops Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 09:06:05 +0100 Message-ID: <001401bd7b32$683dbe20$46f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00008896.CE21252@tribune.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Adobe defined the crop box and bounding box, and use them reasonably well when displaying on screen. But applications seem to take a rather cavalier approach to them when printing. It's surely a bug to print something the user has cropped out, though this may be a side-effect of trying to allow bleeds by the back door. > I just received a call regarding the following problem and > was hoping someone > may have a few thoughts and advice: > > A newspaper is receiving ads as PDF files; they open the ad > in Exchange and crop > out the ad agency's job ticket info, leaving only the true > ad; the file is then > exported as an eps file and sent to a Cascade system for processing; > > when the eps file is brought into Quark it is not retaining > the crops, and looks > as it did originally; they have tried to bring the PDF into > Illustrator, perform > a save as after the file is cropped, etc. but did find the > most revealing > information in BBedit; > > the size information given for the media box was the size of > the original PDF > file and the size listed for the crop box was the cropped > size they want the ad > to be; if they copy the size from the crop box field and > paste it into the media > box field all is ok. You could try using tools, including Quite Imposing Plus or Compose to overlay the pages with information instead of extracting it. Or; impose the cropped page 1 x 1 in Quite Imposing, this will "normalise" the crop and media boxes, which will now be identical. Aandi Inston Quite Software http://www.quite.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-May-1998 15:02:09-GMT,5529;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10075 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 09:02:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA18885; Sat, 9 May 1998 09:40:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 May 1998 09:35:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18715; Sat, 9 May 1998 09:35:23 -0500 Message-ID: <002201bd7b57$b050d2e0$63af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 10:35:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've put AVI movies into Acrobat documents using the Movie Tool. When you click on the movie tool, see if you have the option to change the movie type to All Movies (*.mov, *.avi). Even if you can't get the AVI in with the movie tool, you could create a link of type Open File and run the AVI that way. Good Luck, Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. -----Original Message----- From: jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader > >AVI does not work with Acrobat, does it? I did not think that there was >built in functionality to Acrobat to include AVI movies. > >Jeremy Treister > > > > > >"Chris Lane" on 05/08/98 12:33:07 PM > >Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > cc: (bcc: Jeremy Treister/Sensorium) > > > > Subject: Re: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader > > > > > > > > >Yep... if there's a nail, you hit it on the head. Over on the Quicktime >developers list this is a common rant. Incompatibility with Quicktime 3.0 >is not only an Acrobat problem... it affects Macromedia Director and other >development systems as well. Basically, if you follow the Apple >guidelines, >your screwed, at least until Acrobat gets upgraded, then you have the whole >Quicktime spam problem to get over. Apple is being silent about this mess >which is even more irritating than if they just said 'Deal with it'. In >the >mean time, you join the rest of us out here in the cold with deadlines >looming and no paddle. Since your are only concerned with Windows you >might >want to look into Quicktime to AVI converters. > >Chris Lane >Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeremy Treister >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 10:56 AM >Subject: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader > >> >>This may be a cross platform issue, but I am only concerned with Windows >95 >>/ NT for the purposes of my product. >> >>My understanding of the QuickTime licensee agreement is that if a >developer >>distributes a PDF based product with Acrobat Reader, the developer can >also >>include the installer for QuickTime 2.12. >> >>If you go to the Apple QuickTime web-site, it looks like it is no longer >>legal to distribute Quick Time 2.x. >> >>When I tried uninstalling QuickTime 2.12, then installing QuickTime3, I >>could no longer view the QuickTime movie which is in my PDF based product. >> >>If anyone has any further insight, please pass it along. >> >>Until Adobe Acrobat is compatible with the new version of Apple QuickTime, >>it seems a lot of people (general users) will have problems with QuickTime >>files. I have both QuickTime 2.12 AND QuickTime 3 on my WinNT machine now! >>everything works, but common wisdom says to remove the old version when >>upgrading- in the case of PDF compatibility this is not true. >> >>Jeremy Treister >> Sensorium Software, Inc. >> Visual Business Management >>e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com >> v 312.786.1330.515 >> f 312.786.1324 >> >>===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >>For more info: John Cook >>List-related questions: >>Sub/Unsub: >>--------------------------------------------------------- >> >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-May-1998 1:06:37-GMT,3459;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25512 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 19:06:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA03332; Sat, 9 May 1998 19:44:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 May 1998 19:35:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03001; Sat, 9 May 1998 19:35:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3555E453.A9673888@realworld.com.au> Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 10:30:59 -0700 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader References: <007901bd7a91$57c7f250$151aa4cd@olympus.pr.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jeremy Treister wrote: > This may be a cross platform issue, but I am only concerned with Windows 95 > / NT for the purposes of my product. > > My understanding of the QuickTime licensee agreement is that if a developer > distributes a PDF based product with Acrobat Reader, the developer can also > include the installer for QuickTime 2.12. I'mot sure on whose liscence has precedence, the Adobe/Apple or the new Apple QT 3 direct? > > > If you go to the Apple QuickTime web-site, it looks like it is no longer > legal to distribute Quick Time 2.x. That is my understanding, subject to clarification of above point.BTW if you want ot get a legal ruling I suggest clarifying Adobe's licence (in writing). On the Apple QT dev-list one poster has been waiting a month for clarifiaction from Apple on a license point. The new QT3 licence is a shambles (US$1 per CD or the "Get QT3" API) and Apple STILL havent responded to the tirade of hate mail on the QT dev-list, so god knows when if at all any change will come. > > > When I tried uninstalling QuickTime 2.12, then installing QuickTime3, I > could no longer view the QuickTime movie which is in my PDF based product > If anyone has any further insight, please pass it along. > > Until Adobe Acrobat is compatible with the new version of Apple QuickTime, > it seems a lot of people (general users) will have problems with QuickTime > files. I have both QuickTime 2.12 AND QuickTime 3 on my WinNT machine now! > everything works, but common wisdom says to remove the old version when > upgrading- in the case of PDF compatibility this is not true. Unlike previous versions of QT, 3 is actually designed to work with 2.x, indeed the consensus seems to be that it is advantageous to leave both versions on. There are NO conflicts unlike previous versions. It's a real pickle if 2.x is now illegal to distribute and 3 is incompatable with Acrobat, OR you cant meet the new license conditions ($1 per disc or get movie). Apple have really screwed the pooch with QT3. Here's hoping they get there act together soon! Dean Laffan ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-May-1998 5:00:54-GMT,2169;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA01936 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 23:00:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA10026; Sat, 9 May 1998 23:45:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 May 1998 23:37:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09765; Sat, 9 May 1998 23:37:06 -0500 Message-ID: <35552EF3.467F@acm.org> Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 23:37:07 -0500 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF/Acrobat Limitations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All - I'm currently trying to put together a 'complete' list of PDF limitations. This also, in effect, means Acrobat limitations since, to my clients, they look the same. I know of: * the 20,000 page limit in the Viewer (does this go away in 4.0?) * a 64K limit in the number of objects (PDF, I believe) Is anyone aware of any others? I am daily making a very strong case for PDF to my clients, but I need to present any negative information at the same time to insure I provide a balanced presentation. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-May-1998 6:49:26-GMT,5843;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12666 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 00:49:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA12617; Sun, 10 May 1998 01:29:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 10 May 1998 01:22:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA12406; Sun, 10 May 1998 01:22:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01bd7bdc$0b490bc0$63af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Quick Time liscencing and Acrobat Reader Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 02:22:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For those of us that are have been watching Apples Quicktime 3 licensing policy, Apple have just released a modification. The following is a snip from an e-mail sent to the Quicktime developers list from Charles Wiltgen, Apples QuickTime Evangelist. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia productions Corp. Both the modified QuickTime SDA documents and an updated QuickTime 3 set of installers will be made available before the end of May. Please take a moment to review the brief summary of key modifications below and then visit Apple's software licensing web site at to review the complete documents in their entirety once they are posted. Please Note: The following summary of new license terms is intended to give you a general understanding of the new terms. Licenses for redistribution of QuickTime will be governed by the terms contained in the signed agreements. QuickTime Software Distribution Agreement (SDA) Modifications in Brief: 1. QuickTime Free Distribution The modified QuickTime SDA will enable QuickTime 3 Software to be distributed for free with a software or hardware product simply by using Apple's new QuickTime 3 installer as part of the licensee's product's installation procedure or by asking that the user runs the new QuickTime installer if the licensee's product has no installation procedure. The QuickTime 3 installer must be invoked regardless of whether the user already has QuickTime 3 (the installer will manage situations where QuickTime 3 is already installed). The new installer will play a graphic ad for QuickTime 3 Pro (requiring no user interaction) once during installation and place the "Get QuickTime 3 Pro" interactive movie on the user's desktop once during installation. 2. QuickTime "No-Ad" Distribution The modified QuickTime SDA will continue to offer the choice to distribute QuickTime 3 without playing the graphic ad for QuickTime 3 Pro or placing the "Get QuickTime Pro" interactive movie on the desktop for $1 per unit. Apple will provide a "no-ad" version of the QuickTime 3 installer that does not play the graphic ad or place the "Get QuickTime Pro" movie on the desktop for these agreements. There will also continue to be the same choice to distribute QuickTime 3 Pro for $2 per unit. These royalties will be based on products distributed but will also allow for credit against returns. 3. QuickTime 2.1.2 Distribution The modified QuickTime SDA will enable continued QuickTime 2.1.2 for Windows software distribution. The modified QuickTime SDA will require that QuickTime 3 also be distributed with QuickTime 2.1.2. The QuickTime 3 installer must be used as part of the licensing product's installation or ensure that the user runs the new QuickTime 3 installer if the licensing product has no installation procedure. The new QuickTime 3 installer will install QuickTime 3 on client operating systems later than Windows 3.1 (e.g. Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT 4, Windows NT 5, etc.). The QuickTime 3 installer will not install QuickTime 3 or place the "Get QuickTime 3 Pro" interactive ad on the desktop of Windows 3.1 systems. Again, the QuickTime 3 installation will (on systems later than Windows 3.1) play a graphic ad for QuickTime 3 Pro (requiring no user interaction) once during installation and place the "Get QuickTime 3 Pro" interactive movie on the user's desktop once during installation. 4. QuickTime SDA Duration Under the modified QuickTime SDA, licensees will be able to continue to distribute QuickTime 3 or QuickTime 3 Pro for as long as the licensee is distributing the software products identified in the agreement or "dot releases" of those products (e.g. AppleWorks 5.1, 5.2, 5.3). Note: Agreements for distribution of QuickTime 3 and QuickTime 3 Pro with hardware products will continue to require annual renewal. 5. QuickTime 3 Web Browser Plug-in While the behavior of the QuickTime 3 web browser plug-in is not described in the QuickTime SDA documents, we have responded to your comments and made some changes there as well. The QuickTime 3 Web Browser plug-in will be modified so that the "Get QuickTime 3 Pro" interactive movie is only invoked the first time the plug-in is invoked after installation. It will also place the "Get QuickTime 3 Pro" movie file on the end user's desktop the first time the plug-in is invoked following installation. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-May-1998 12:15:33-GMT,2801;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29037 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 06:15:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA20641; Sun, 10 May 1998 06:56:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 10 May 1998 06:48:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20397; Sun, 10 May 1998 06:48:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF/Acrobat Limitations Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 09:37:12 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01bd7c09$51ad3e60$46f682c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35552EF3.467F@acm.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > I'm currently trying to put together a 'complete' list of PDF > limitations. This also, in effect, means Acrobat limitations since, to > my clients, they look the same. > > I know of: > > * the 20,000 page limit in the Viewer (does this go away in 4.0?) > * a 64K limit in the number of objects (PDF, I believe) I thought it was 32K pages. The most important limit is the page sizes; minimum 1 inch, maximum 45 inches. This is the only limit people come up against regularly. There is a limit on the number of different names in Reader/Exchange of around 10,000, the limit applying to the total number of distinct names in all files opened; but it is hard to provoke this on even the largest files (I managed it, but recoding fixed that). I don't think there is a 64K object limit implicit in PDF. Object numbers have 10 decimal digits. There is a 64K limit on object generation numbers, limiting you to 64K successive saves on one file with no Save As (!) An important factor for monster files is that you can only make a PDF from a PostScript file that can exist. What? On many systems, a single file cannot exceed 2 gigabytes no matter how large the disk. Some PostScript files potentially reach that, though the final PDF files are much smaller. I saw one person trying to make a PDF file as large as a CDROM, hitting this limit. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 8:59:11-GMT,1908;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15297 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 02:59:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA23934; Mon, 11 May 1998 03:41:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 03:27:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23308; Mon, 11 May 1998 03:27:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199805110827.DAA23302@everglades.binc.net> Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF/Acrobat Limitations Date: Mon, 11 May 98 10:27:38 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >The most important limit is the page sizes; minimum 1 inch, maximum >45 inches. This is the only limit people come up against regularly. This is a Viewer implementation limit (Exchange and Reader), not Acrobat in general. In effect Distiller correctly converts documents greatly larger than 45'. This is an extract from a PDF doc after distilling a 2000 x 2500 mm doc: 7 0 obj << /Type /Pages /Kids [1 0 R] /Count 1 /MediaBox [0 0 5669 7087] >> endobj The /MediaBox entry has a correct value, but if you open this file with an Adobe viewer you get a blank page cropped to 1143 x 1143 mm (45'). Maybe other non-Adobe PDF viewers overcome this limit. Andrea ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 11:43:20-GMT,1880;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18944 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 05:43:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA28288; Mon, 11 May 1998 06:25:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 06:19:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28116; Mon, 11 May 1998 06:19:30 -0500 Message-Id: <98May11.131754gmt+0100.22401-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick WOLF To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Desperatly searching for the IFilter-plugin from Adobe !! Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:26:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA28113 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all, We are running IIS 3.0 and we want to test the full-text search on PDF files. We are searching for a version of Adobe IFilter for Index Server 1.1 to download. Unfortunately, http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ifilter.html is actually not available (and Adobe's people don't know when it will be again available...). Could someone provide us a copy of the version designed for Index Server 1.1? Thanks! (Please reply privately) Yannick Wolf CD-ROM Development Basler Zeitung y.wolf@baz.ch ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 11:57:43-GMT,2303;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19329 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 05:57:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA28908; Mon, 11 May 1998 06:44:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 06:40:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28802; Mon, 11 May 1998 06:40:25 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Desperatly searching for the IFilter-plugin from Adobe !! Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:39:18 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd7cd1$71c3ac20$cbf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <98May11.131754gmt+0100.22401-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > We are running IIS 3.0 and we want to test the full-text > search on PDF files. > > We are searching for a version of Adobe IFilter for Index > Server 1.1 to download. > > Unfortunately, > http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ifilter.html is > actually not available (and Adobe's people don't know when it > will be again available...). > > Could someone provide us a copy of the version designed for > Index Server 1.1? Please check the license agreement before you do this. It may not be allowed. I don't know, but it is good to be careful. (Just because software is once given away, does not remove the copyright or mean it can automatically be redistributed; in the same way that, just because you may be given a book for free, you do not gain the right to make photocopies). Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 11:59:13-GMT,1708;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19371 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 05:59:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA29190; Mon, 11 May 1998 06:49:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 06:46:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29004; Mon, 11 May 1998 06:46:23 -0500 Message-Id: <9029AADD5E6AD111A22C0060084129453FE66B@DC02> From: Nelson Phil To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF/Acrobat Limitations Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 07:46:26 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Is anyone aware of any others? I am daily making a very strong case for >PDF to my clients, but I need to present any negative information at the >same time to insure I provide a balanced presentation. And there is a limit of 9 documents that can be open simultaneously with the Reader and Exchange, therefore the autoclose plug-in available from Adobe. Phillip L. Nelson IRS Information Systems New Carrollton Federal Building New Carrollton, Maryland, USA nelsonphil@m1.irs.gov ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 13:18:50-GMT,1576;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21850 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:18:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA30987; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:44:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 07:40:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30835; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:40:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 07:43:55 -0500 From: Steve Ward Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF/Acrobat Limitations To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <05256601.0045A540.00@aammta1.d51.lilly.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Lotus-FromDomain: LILLY Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > There is a limit on the number of different names in Reader/Exchange of > around 10,000, the limit applying to the total number of distinct names > in all files opened; but it is hard to provoke this on even the largest > files (I managed it, but recoding fixed that). When you say names, do you mean a limit of 10,000 named destinations per PDF? stw ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 13:18:50-GMT,1995;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21851 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:18:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA31237; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:50:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 07:46:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31075; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:46:22 -0500 X-Sender: Daniel@mail.vcity.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199805110827.DAA23325@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 08:46:00 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: danielari@dionis.com (Dionis) Subject: [PDF] page size limits(was PDF/Acrobat Limitations) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 45.5 inch page size limits are probably not going to go away. There are 72 points to an inch. Coordinates seem to have a precision of 0.1 point. The maximum number you can get with a 32 bit Fixed number is 32767 (Hex 7FFFFFFF). 32767 * 0.1 / 72 = 45.5 inches To exceed this page size limit, a PDF viewer would have to either have to use numbers greater than 32 bits, or reduce the precision with which objects can be placed on a page. Dan --------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel-Ari Feinberg, Dionis Check out our plug-ins for Adobe Acrobat! Ari's Ruler measures, and Ari's Print Helper does even/odd/reverse pages http://www.dionis.com/pdf.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 14:16:12-GMT,2408;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23936 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 08:16:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA01006; Mon, 11 May 1998 08:47:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 08:42:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00758; Mon, 11 May 1998 08:42:27 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF/Acrobat Limitations Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:34:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bd7ce2$7cd79c00$cbf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <05256601.0045A540.00@aammta1.d51.lilly.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > There is a limit on the number of different names in > Reader/Exchange of > > around 10,000, the limit applying to the total number of > distinct names > > in all files opened; but it is hard to provoke this on even > the largest > > files (I managed it, but recoding fixed that). > > When you say names, do you mean a limit of 10,000 named > destinations per PDF? I don't believe named destinations use up names, strange to say...checking...hmmm, they can be names or strings. There are advantages to using strings; you will not run out. Apart from this a typical PDF will have no more than a few hundred names whether it is one page or 10,000 pages. Look inside a PDF: you'll see names like /Page, /Dest, or /Resources over and over. It is the number of different names that matters. Early beta releases of Quite Imposing generated a new name for each imposed page. This did quickly reach the limit, so it was redesigned. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 14:17:13-GMT,1523;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24006 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 08:17:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA01872; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:06:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 09:02:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01675; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:02:24 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199805111402.AA03039@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Mon, 11 May 98 08:46:51 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] print or view Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello List, I am interested in finding a way to allow users of a cd-rom the choice of viewing a .pdf document, or printing a .pdf document (without viewing), as they click on the link to that document. Corbin Snyder csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 15:03:02-GMT,2208;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25586 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:03:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03051; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:35:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 09:31:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02840; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:31:13 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] print or view Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:24:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bd7ce9$4e1587e0$cbf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199805111402.AA03039@interlock.mgh.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I am interested in finding a way to allow users of a > cd-rom the choice > of viewing a .pdf document, or printing a .pdf document (without > viewing), as they click on the link to that document. > > Corbin Snyder > csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com What sort of link? In Windows Explorer, for instance, you can always select Open or Print from the pop-up menu. HTML does not understand the concept of printing. I can't think of a way to have either PDF or HTML pages printed automatically from HTML. PDF files can have links and actions to invoke PRINT, but I can't think of a way to print a different file without opening it first. A uniform design with a "print me" button on the first page may be a simpler option. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 15:12:14-GMT,1818;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25919 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:12:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA04399; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:01:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04092; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:56:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:56:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Murphy To: pdfzone Subject: [PDF] unix/exchange question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hi, is it possible to create thumbnails with exchange 3.0 from the unix command line (rather then using the GUI)? Cheers Biff /* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- American Institute of Physics BiffSocko biff@aip.org (Tom Murphy) biffsocko@mindspring.com 1.516.576.2329 tmurphy@aip.org http://www.aip.org rwraith@imag.lamers.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- */ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 15:20:39-GMT,2466;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26329 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:20:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA04806; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:09:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 10:05:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04627; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:05:36 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199805111505.AA19034@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Mon, 11 May 98 11:03:11 -0500 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] print or view Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I am interested in finding a way to allow users of a >cd-rom the choice of viewing a .pdf document, or printing a .pdf document (without viewing), as they click on the link to that document. > > Corbin Snyder > csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com What sort of link? ---THE LINK IS CURRENTLY A PDF TO PDF FILE OPEN LINK--- In Windows Explorer, for instance, you can always select Open or Print from the pop-up menu. ---THIS ALIENATES MY WIN 3.1 USERS...--- HTML does not understand the concept of printing. I can't think of a way to have either PDF or HTML pages printed automatically from HTML. ---NO HTML IS INVOLVED - A PDF ONLY CD-ROM--- PDF files can have links and actions to invoke PRINT, but I can't think of a way to print a different file without opening it first. A uniform design with a "print me" button on the first page may be a simpler option. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 15:35:59-GMT,2515;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26891 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:35:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA05214; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:16:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 10:12:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04969; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:12:31 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980511100750.010013c0@austin.asc.slb.com> X-Sender: vanrooy@austin.asc.slb.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:07:50 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David Van Rooy Subject: [PDF] PDF Search Engines Cc: webmaster@undercurrent.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm looking for a simple (read cheap -- free to several $100's) search engine to use on a web site, that will search PDF files; i.e. the user will be presented with a search text field where she types in some keywords and receives a list of links to some pdf files that matched, hopefully with some info about degree of relevancy. The package should first index the files (1000 files at most, each varying from 1-10 pages), so the web-site search engine should utilize this index via some cgi interface. Our site is hosted on a Unix server (Free BSD) running Apache. The software should not require any root-privilieged installation or modification of the web server or ... -- we're hosted on a virtual host-providers machine and have limited access. We do not require (but it would be nice) that the search link to the location of the phrase in the pdf file, but just to the file itself. All the PDF-enabled search engines I find are (1) expensive & (2) require a lot. Does anyone have any info on such? TIA, Dave Van Rooy ------------ Dave Van Rooy Undercurrent Webmaster 512 328 2339 home 512 331 3059 fax 512 331 3284 ofc http://www.undercurrent.org webmaster@undercurrent.org ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 16:18:18-GMT,2492;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28165 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:18:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07348; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:57:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 10:53:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07105; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:53:44 -0500 Message-Id: <35571EEF.947711FB@moen.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:53:19 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Microstation .dgn to PDf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, We are trying to do batch conversions of MicroStation .dgn files to pdf. We have pasted together three products to do this. The first reads the .dgn file, converts some specialized fonts and saves it back out as a MicroStation .dgn file. The second reads the new .dgn file and writes out a postscript file. We then edit the .ps file, adding some label information running up the side of the document. The third is the Adobe Distiller, to convert the .ps file to .pdf. We are looking for a new product to do the .dgn -> .ps conversion in batch mode. Does anybody know of such a product? I know that this is the wrong audience for this, but does anybody know of a MicroStation forum, listserv, majordomo, email exploder, or whatever today's term is? Thanks, Jennifer -- _______________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2000 ext. 2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _______________________________________________________________________ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 16:37:48-GMT,2533;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28669 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:37:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07988; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:11:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 11:07:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07819; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:07:24 -0500 Message-ID: <355722E2.F0DF32A2@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:10:10 -0400 From: Louis Rosa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] unix/exchange question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 the million dollar question is ask again and the answer is still the same NO! because adobe just reto fit exchange for unix. my 2 cents Tom Murphy wrote: > hi, > is it possible to create thumbnails with exchange 3.0 from the > unix command line (rather then using the GUI)? > > Cheers > Biff > > /* > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > American Institute of Physics > BiffSocko biff@aip.org > (Tom Murphy) biffsocko@mindspring.com > 1.516.576.2329 tmurphy@aip.org > http://www.aip.org rwraith@imag.lamers.org > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > */ > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 17:25:17-GMT,3309;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00089 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:25:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10686; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:06:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 12:04:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10580; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:04:22 -0500 From: "Norman Brandsma" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] RE: Acrobat Catalog Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:05:47 -0600 Message-Id: <9805111105501M.00090@ttgkami.edm.ttg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Internet MailBridge Gateway 1.41.168 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 21:49:32 +0100 From: "David Cornwell" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Catalog I hate to interject commercial realism into a technical question - but does your client really have that many sites that they can not afford a copy of Exchange for each site and, if it is more than 20 sites, have they considered the Adobe Volume Purchase Plan which greatly reduces the cost of many copies of Exchange. You call the information "important" - can't be that important, definitely not mission critical. Why should Adobe make an exception? Sometimes the effort in getting around perfectly reasonable license costs is simply not worth it. Sorry for the rant - however it sometimes feels that everyone wants everything for nothing - lets inject some common sense here. drc - --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yikes, ask a simple question! Yes, our client would much prefer to spend $60 for the Catalog software than to have to purchase the entire Exchange suite for $200 and acquire a number of tools that they will never use. They do not want their site personnel having access to, using or learning Acrobat Exchange. This information is safety critical and needs to be maintained by a central administrator. I thought that this might be worth investigating, but obviously not. Apparently this particular multi-national client hasn't got the common sensibilities that some of the subscribers to this list have Sorry for asking. Norman Brandsma Production Coordinator TTG Systems Inc. nbrandsma@ttg-inc.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 17:26:42-GMT,2316;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00106 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:26:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10330; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:58:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 11:54:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10160; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:54:06 -0500 Message-ID: <35573B8F.7283@rwd.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:55:27 -0500 From: Joe DiGangi X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 2.1 and Visual Basic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am trying to publish up to 200 documents at a time in a (derivative of) Visual Basic printing routine. I am using Acrobat 2.1 (have to stick with that), but I can't seem to get the program to print more than 40 documents without coming up with an error "Too many windows open". I suspect this is a VB or OLE limitation. I thought I was closing the right objects, but I'm unsure of how Acrobat handles its objects. I have tried to look in the SDK and on Adobe's site for info, to no avail. I've also tried different versions of pddoc.Close(), etc. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. A snippet of the code is below: Batchprint: if printed>0 then set avdoc =CreateObject("AcroExch.AVDoc") for i = 0 to printed-1 r =avdoc.Open(filename,"") set pddoc =avdoc.GetPDDoc() nmaxpage =pddoc.GetNumPages() r =avdoc.PrintPages(firstpage,nmaxpage-1,pslevel,binaryok,shrinktofit) r = avdoc.Close(0) next i set avdoc = Nothing end if return Please reply to mailing list and jdigangi@rwd.com Thanks. Joe ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 18:10:23-GMT,1765;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01264 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:10:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA12820; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:46:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 12:43:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12616; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:43:38 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Exchange only in volume Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:44:23 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1317235435-97872173@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have heard that Adobe sells Exchange alone (unbundled from Distiller and Catalog) for less than $100. I've checked the mail order catalogs and visited Adobe's website, yet I've found nothing on this. I'm also interested in volume pricing for Exchange only. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 18:10:30-GMT,2642;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01283 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:10:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA12870; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:47:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 12:45:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12781; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:45:37 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980511174528.00d7d0e8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:45:28 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Acrobat Catalog Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Check out Emerge's price list for the Acrobat 3.01 10-pack. You'll see that, even without any special deals with Adobe, the cost drops to about $110 (1/2 the 'street' price) once you get above 10 copies. Just tell the clients' users to only install Catalog when presented with the menu of Setup choices. You can also tailor Adobe's Setup program so that only the Catalog software is installed, thereby avoiding any user confusion (and any temptation to explore the rest of the suite) if this is really that important to you, but it would probably cost your client a lot more for you to do this work than your client sounds willing to pay. Tom Thiersch >Yikes, ask a simple question! Yes, our client would much prefer to spend $60 for the Catalog software than to have to purchase the entire Exchange suite for $200 and acquire a number of tools that they will never use. They do not want their site personnel having access to, using or learning Acrobat Exchange. This information is safety critical and needs to be maintained by a central administrator. > >I thought that this might be worth investigating, but obviously not. Apparently this particular multi-national client hasn't got the common sensibilities that some of the subscribers to this list have > >Sorry for asking. > >Norman Brandsma >Production Coordinator >TTG Systems Inc. >nbrandsma@ttg-inc.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 22:07:53-GMT,1773;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07721 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:07:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24229; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:44:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 16:39:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24020; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:39:29 -0500 Message-ID: <1D21246393F8D011991000A02461FE6F9B8D91@XSF1.dolby.com> From: "Goldin, Susan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF File Icons Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:39:24 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Situation: I am creating a CD ROM with multiple files/file types. When the CD is first opened, files which are shown include a ReadMe.txt which directs the user to the other shown file, CONTENTS.PDF. This PDF file then has a description of files and links to PDF and Word files. All other files on the CD are sorted into appropriate folders. Problem: Those who have viewed the CD have asked that the CONTENTS.PDF file be more obvious, visually distinguished in some way. Any suggestions? The solution must be applicable for both PC and Mac users. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-May-1998 22:30:41-GMT,1984;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08226 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:30:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA25521; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:12:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 17:08:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25370; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:08:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199805112210.RAA29497@mustang.fidnet.com> X-Sender: mueller@mail.fidnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:09:10 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com From: Randall Mueller Subject: [PDF] pdf plug and distiller...help! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Two questions: I am desperately being forced to produce a work flow at work. We step jobs in quark. we print the step jobs. 1. I have been distilling these from distiller using the epilogue and prologue for spot color out put using crackerjack. Now I want to automate a bit and use the watch folder in distiller...seems that it doesn't recognize the color sep for spots this way? 2. Have read that pagemaker has an import and export filter for pdf. Can you import a pdf file and set up a guide sheet in PM and step and repeat this PDF file and then print it? I would like if you would send your answers to me at work: magnet@usmo.com Randall mueller@fidnet.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 1:59:58-GMT,2912;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12790 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:59:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00592; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:42:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 20:37:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00407; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:37:58 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:38:28 -0500 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" From: "Wraight, David D." Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Acrobat Catalog Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David, I think you have stepped on Norman's toes. I was under the impression that this list was for technical discussions relating to the usage of the Acrobat suite of programs, not for having a go at people and the type of questions they ask. I believe if Norman says the information is 'important' then the information is important. People of all levels subscribe to this list which in turn means the occasional 'simple' question gets asked - but that's what the list is for! Norman is obviously not a 'simple' user of Acrobat, and as for the question he asked I personally believe it's a valid one, and one worth having a discussion about. As for the 'lets inject some common sense here' comment, well how about lets inject some good manners. My Two Cents Worth! d........................ > Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 21:49:32 +0100 > From: "David Cornwell" > Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Catalog > > I hate to interject commercial realism into a technical question - but > does > your client really have that many sites that they can not afford a > copy of > Exchange for each site and, if it is more than 20 sites, have they > considered the Adobe Volume Purchase Plan which greatly reduces the > cost of > many copies of Exchange. You call the information "important" - can't > be > that important, definitely not mission critical. Why should Adobe make > an > exception? Sometimes the effort in getting around perfectly reasonable > license costs is simply not worth it. > > Sorry for the rant - however it sometimes feels that everyone wants > everything for nothing - lets inject some common sense here. > > drc > - --- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 3:22:27-GMT,2712;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA14530 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 21:22:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA03807; Mon, 11 May 1998 22:07:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 May 1998 22:03:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03623; Mon, 11 May 1998 22:03:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'Jennifer Amon'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Microstation .dgn to PDf Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:04:35 +0800 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jennifer, I remember a product called CADSCRIPT, used specifically to add things like colour mapping, fonts specs etc, you could then use CADScript to do everything for you automatically and then produce a PS file. You then set up the Distiller Watched directory and it will convert all the PS files into nice little PDF's. Here's an address that may prove fruitful, it's a start anyway. They should be able to shed some light on the product or give you other ideas. Troubleshooting: http://www.bentley.com/tools/head1.htm VB Script: http://www.vbcad.com/scr_pro.htm If you can try and find the CADScript product, it should do want you need. d............................. ---------------------------- > Hi, > > We are trying to do batch conversions of MicroStation .dgn > files to pdf. > > We have pasted together three products to do this. The first > reads the .dgn file, converts some specialized fonts and > saves it back out as a MicroStation .dgn file. > > The second reads the new .dgn file and writes out a postscript > file. We then edit the .ps file, adding some label information > running up the side of the document. > > The third is the Adobe Distiller, to convert the .ps file to .pdf. > > We are looking for a new product to do the .dgn -> .ps conversion > in batch mode. > > Does anybody know of such a product? > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 8:28:37-GMT,2320;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20957 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 02:28:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA11837; Tue, 12 May 1998 02:57:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 02:51:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11661; Tue, 12 May 1998 02:51:16 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF File Icons Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:27:15 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd7d7a$9a0d7fe0$4bf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <1D21246393F8D011991000A02461FE6F9B8D91@XSF1.dolby.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Situation: > > I am creating a CD ROM with multiple files/file types. When the CD is > first opened, files which are shown include a ReadMe.txt which directs > the user to the other shown file, CONTENTS.PDF. This PDF > file then has > a description of files and links to PDF and Word files. All > other files > on the CD are sorted into appropriate folders. > > Problem: > > Those who have viewed the CD have asked that the CONTENTS.PDF file be > more obvious, visually distinguished in some way. > > Any suggestions? The solution must be applicable for both PC and Mac > users. No Windows solution. The icon comes from the file type. I'd be inclined to use a different name which put it first alphabetically, that may help. OR, put CONTENTS.PDF by itself in the top level folder. That's probably the most user friendly approach. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 8:29:52-GMT,2083;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20994 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 02:29:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA11838; Tue, 12 May 1998 02:57:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 02:51:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11678; Tue, 12 May 1998 02:51:18 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf plug and distiller...help! Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:45:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd7d7a$9b64d280$4bf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199805112210.RAA29497@mustang.fidnet.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > 2. Have read that pagemaker has an import and export filter > for pdf. Can > you import a pdf file and set up a guide sheet in PM and step > and repeat > this PDF file and then print it? Yes, you should be able to. A placed PDF is much like a placed EPS. Use it only for PostScript printing (a sad restriction for a portable format, in my view, but I guess PostScript is Adobe's bread and butter; it means the placed PDF library will never be of any interest outside pre-press). You can also use our Quite Imposing Plus product to step and repeat PDF files from Exchange. Aandi Inston Quite Imposing Plus ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 11:29:22-GMT,1750;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23947 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 05:29:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA16396; Tue, 12 May 1998 05:56:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 05:47:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16158; Tue, 12 May 1998 05:47:27 -0500 From: JayTeeGraf Message-ID: <84862822.355828a3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 06:46:58 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PDF] "White type" Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.i for Windows sub 26 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We also have an unusual situation with white type in PDF. We create publications using Corel Ventura 5.0 which have white type to create ever- changing running heads and ears. After the publication is printed to file and distilled, when opened in Exchange everywhere the white type appears we see a series of tiny black dots forming an outline of the characters. Has anyone else experienced this or does anyone have any ideas how to eliminate them? Any thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Cathy P. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 12:34:54-GMT,1798;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25080 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 06:34:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18611; Tue, 12 May 1998 07:13:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 07:07:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18375; Tue, 12 May 1998 07:07:37 -0500 X-Sender: mwalker@popa.ifb.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:09:28 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: euroburo Subject: [PDF] pdf distribution Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA18372 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hi has anybody come across any companies who will electronically distribute, via a (ISDN or better) network system, PDF documents. we distribute hard copies of our journals and publications around the world and include PDF's on our websites but would be interested in companies who can distribute electronic versions of publications. thanks marc walker regards Marc Walker Media Director eurobüro - the european business journal http://www.euroburo.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 13:04:45-GMT,2398;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25629 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 07:04:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA19700; Tue, 12 May 1998 07:36:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 07:32:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19513; Tue, 12 May 1998 07:32:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199805121232.HAA19507@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] page size limits(was PDF/Acrobat Limitations) Date: Tue, 12 May 98 14:32:24 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >45.5 inch page size limits are probably not going to go away. > >There are 72 points to an inch. >Coordinates seem to have a precision of 0.1 point. >The maximum number you can get with a 32 bit Fixed number is 32767 (Hex >7FFFFFFF). > >32767 * 0.1 / 72 = 45.5 inches > >To exceed this page size limit, a PDF viewer would have to either have to >use numbers greater than 32 bits, or reduce the precision with which >objects can be placed on a page. I'm not completely aware about the mechanism around resolution and dimensions. When I discovered the bug in Acrobat Distiller 3.0 (still present in 3.0.1) concerning the disappearing of objects near the edges for large documents when the resolution set in Distiller is high, I was told the the cause is that the ratio res x max.dim. could not be higher than 32767. I've no informations about coordinates that seem to have a precision of 0.1 point, I know only that the limit is exactly 45 inches, not 45.5 (1143 mm). You can verify it if you create a larger doc (no errors in Distiller) and try to open in Exchange or Reader: the page is cropped to 45" exactly. Andrea ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 14:23:22-GMT,2396;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27138 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:23:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22530; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:41:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 08:37:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22261; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:37:30 -0500 Message-ID: <355852B8.6955209D@lsijax.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:46:32 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF File Icons X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <000001bd7d7a$9a0d7fe0$4bf582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I don't think this will work for a Mac but in Windows you can create a shortcut to CONTENTS.PDF which is slightly different in name (i.e. contents1.pdf) and change the icon through the properties feature. As Aandi stated, the original file receives its icon from the file type but a shortcut can be modified to any icon image wanted. Double-clicking on the shortcut or 'opening' it will result in opening CONTENTS.PDF. Hope this helps, Tracie +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Aandi Inston wrote: > > Problem: > > > > Those who have viewed the CD have asked that the CONTENTS.PDF > file be > > more obvious, visually distinguished in some way. > > > > Any suggestions? The solution must be applicable for both PC > and Mac > > users. > > No Windows solution. The icon comes from the file type. > > Aandi > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 14:23:20-GMT,2305;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27134 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:23:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA23789; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:03:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 09:00:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23603; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:00:25 -0500 Message-ID: <002101bd7dae$52c89320$63af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF File Icons Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:00:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To add to what both Aandi and Tracie responded, most Windows installers will allow you to create a shortcut (though you don't need to name the shortcut differently) and give the shortcut an icon of your choice. Search the www.shareware.com site for 'installer' and you will find lots of easy to use installers (note that most have some cost for the full version), or go the full up route and buy Install Shield (www.sterling.com) which seems to be the installer of choice of many big companies. Another thought which we have been using is to link ALL files to a central PDF so that the user does not need to open more than one PDF from the OS... all other files are opened by Acrobat within your document. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. Tracie K. DeVoe wrote: >create a shortcut to CONTENTS.PDF which is slightly different in >name (i.e. contents1.pdf) and change the icon through the >properties feature ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 14:24:03-GMT,2584;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27161 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:24:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23528; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:59:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 08:55:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23228; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:55:55 -0500 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A5093B90E9@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "'euroburo'" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf distribution Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:56:13 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Alliant Techsystems DodDepot(tm) product is designed for electronic document distribution via the internet or an intranet, as well as publish on demand (CD and hardcopy) distribution. It is a client server application, but requires no client software, just a web browser. Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems 13133 34th Street North Clearwater, FL 33762 Voice: (813)572-2491 WWW: http://ais.atk.com ---------- From: euroburo[SMTP:mwalker@euroburo.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 1998 8:09 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf distribution hi has anybody come across any companies who will electronically distribute, via a (ISDN or better) network system, PDF documents. we distribute hard copies of our journals and publications around the world and include PDF's on our websites but would be interested in companies who can distribute electronic versions of publications. thanks marc walker regards Marc Walker Media Director euroburo - the european business journal http://www.euroburo.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 14:24:37-GMT,3228;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27186 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:24:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23361; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:57:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 08:53:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23066; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:53:41 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:53:36 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF File Icons To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691A95@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For the Mac, you copy the icon you desire to the clipboard, select the file, use "get info", click on the displayed icon, and do a paste. The file now has the new icon. I often use the icon generated by photoshop or the Thumbnail application to make the file icon unique. What I do not understand is how to have the same icon show up on both platforms for the same file. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Tracie K. DeVoe [SMTP:tdevoe@lsijax.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 1998 9:47 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF File Icons > > > I don't think this will work for a Mac but in Windows you can > create a shortcut to CONTENTS.PDF which is slightly different in > name (i.e. contents1.pdf) and change the icon through the > properties feature. As Aandi stated, the original file receives > its icon from the file type but a shortcut can be modified to any > icon image wanted. Double-clicking on the shortcut or 'opening' > it will result in opening CONTENTS.PDF. > > Hope this helps, > > Tracie > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Tracie DeVoe > Logistic Services International > 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 > Elizabeth City, NC 27909 > > PH#: (252) 335-6239 > FAX: (252) 335-6463 > email: tdevoe@lsijax.com > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Aandi Inston wrote: > > > > Problem: > > > > > > Those who have viewed the CD have asked that the CONTENTS.PDF > > file be > > > more obvious, visually distinguished in some way. > > > > > > Any suggestions? The solution must be applicable for both PC > > and Mac > > > users. > > > > No Windows solution. The icon comes from the file type. > > > > Aandi > > > > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 14:26:13-GMT,2005;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27240 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:26:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22523; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:41:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 08:37:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22235; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:37:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3558506D.A26@netmeister.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 06:38:20 -0700 From: Larry Klug Organization: Lawrence Associates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Listserve Subject: [PDF] [RE:] PDF Search Engines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David Van Rooy wrote: >I'm looking for a simple (read cheap -- free to several $100's)search >engine to use on a web site, that will search PDF files; i.e.the user >will be presented with a search text field where she types in some >keywords and receives a list of links to some pdf files that matched, >hopefully with some info about degree of relevancy. I'm also looking for a unix-based search engine that can index the text contents of pdf files. Verity is expensive. What alternatives are there for small to medium sites? Thanks and hello to the list:) Larry - - - - - - - - - - - - Lawrence Associates Multimedia Design and Programming larryk@netmeister.net - - - - - - - - - - - - ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 14:26:28-GMT,1672;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27245 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:26:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA23711; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:02:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 08:59:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23497; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:59:15 -0500 Message-ID: <35585589.D985D40D@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:58:33 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF File Icons References: <000001bd7d7a$9a0d7fe0$4bf582c1@gateway> <355852B8.6955209D@lsijax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tracie K. DeVoe wrote: > > As Aandi stated, the original file receives > its icon from the file type but a shortcut can be modified to any > icon image wanted. Double-clicking on the shortcut or 'opening' > it will result in opening CONTENTS.PDF. ...but only in Windows 95. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 14:42:48-GMT,3229;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27646 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24283; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:13:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 09:09:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24074; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:09:28 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E04B186@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf distribution Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 00:06:10 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA24066 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Marc, I believe that Reuters use a third party to distribute their research. That company is involved with providing the underlying transport mechanism for document distribution. Go to their website for more details. I would think that you have already considered it, and that the speeds you desire are not feasible, [or that you have some other reason I have not considered] but I wonder if you couldn't use the internet as the transport. If security is the issue, there are a number of mechanism you can use such as PPTP [Point to point tunnelling protocol] to minimise risk. Without stating the obvious, if you provide a high speed connections for your clients and to your server/third party server then you will achieve high speeds at a lower cost. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - Check out PDFHotLinks today - http://www.roundtable.com.au/fr_hotlink.htm -----Original Message----- From: euroburo [mailto:mwalker@euroburo.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 1998 10:09 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf distribution hi has anybody come across any companies who will electronically distribute, via a (ISDN or better) network system, PDF documents. we distribute hard copies of our journals and publications around the world and include PDF's on our websites but would be interested in companies who can distribute electronic versions of publications. thanks marc walker regards Marc Walker Media Director eurobüro - the european business journal http://www.euroburo.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 14:41:38-GMT,2120;000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27613; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:41:38 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01574; Tue, 12 May 1998 08:41:39 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:41:39 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] [RE:] PDF Search Engines In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 12 May 1998 06:38:20 -0700 Message-ID: >> I'm also looking for a unix-based search engine that can index the text >> contents of pdf files. One possibility would be to use pdftotext + mg; pdftotext is part of the xpdf distribution, available at http://www.aimnet.com/~derekn/xpdf/ ftp://ftp.aimnet.com/pub/users/derekn/xpdf/ [as of 2-Mar-1998], and mg is available at http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/mg ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/mg For the latter, look at mg-1.3x, which has some extensions that might be useful. Please note that there may be restrictions on commercial use of these packages; check their documentation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 15:10:32-GMT,1850;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28290 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:10:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA26162; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:48:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 09:45:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25948; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:45:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3558629D.B0364E3D@lsijax.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:54:21 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF File Icons X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <000001bd7d7a$9a0d7fe0$4bf582c1@gateway> <355852B8.6955209D@lsijax.com> <35585589.D985D40D@beacon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory Snavely wrote: > Tracie K. DeVoe wrote: > > > > As Aandi stated, the original file receives > > its icon from the file type but a shortcut can be modified to > any > > icon image wanted. Double-clicking on the shortcut or > 'opening' > > it will result in opening CONTENTS.PDF. > > ...but only in Windows 95. > Funny, I tested this on Windows NT 4.0 just before I sent the email. It worked fine for me. Tracie ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 15:13:41-GMT,2738;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28364 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:13:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA26039; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:46:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 09:41:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25726; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:41:41 -0500 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:41:39 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] [RE:] PDF Search Engines In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 12 May 1998 06:38:20 -0700 Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> I'm also looking for a unix-based search engine that can index the text >> contents of pdf files. One possibility would be to use pdftotext + mg; pdftotext is part of the xpdf distribution, available at http://www.aimnet.com/~derekn/xpdf/ ftp://ftp.aimnet.com/pub/users/derekn/xpdf/ [as of 2-Mar-1998], and mg is available at http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/mg ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/mg For the latter, look at mg-1.3x, which has some extensions that might be useful. Please note that there may be restrictions on commercial use of these packages; check their documentation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 15:47:25-GMT,1654;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29170 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:47:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA27661; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:20:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 10:17:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27447; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:16:59 -0500 Message-ID: <355867BE.7772AC5F@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:16:14 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF File Icons References: <000001bd7d7a$9a0d7fe0$4bf582c1@gateway> <355852B8.6955209D@lsijax.com> <35585589.D985D40D@beacon.com> <3558629D.B0364E3D@lsijax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tracie K. DeVoe wrote: > > Funny, I tested this on Windows NT 4.0 just before I sent the > email. It worked fine for me. OK, fair enough--but my point was that it would not work on Windows 3.1. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 15:59:18-GMT,2813;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29591 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:59:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28398; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:33:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 10:29:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28133; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:29:40 -0500 Message-ID: <35587B46.44001CA6@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:39:38 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] [RE:] PDF Search Engines References: <3558506D.A26@netmeister.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Try Muscat. They have an excellent package. Their site is www.muscat.com Bob Larry Klug wrote: > David Van Rooy wrote: > > >I'm looking for a simple (read cheap -- free to several $100's)search > >engine to use on a web site, that will search PDF files; i.e.the user > >will be presented with a search text field where she types in some > >keywords and receives a list of links to some pdf files that matched, > >hopefully with some info about degree of relevancy. > > I'm also looking for a unix-based search engine that can index the text > contents of pdf files. Verity is expensive. What alternatives are > there for small to medium sites? > > Thanks and hello to the list:) > > Larry > > - - - - - - - - - - - - > Lawrence Associates > Multimedia Design and Programming > larryk@netmeister.net > - - - - - - - - - - - - > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Voice 203-452-1116 Fax 203-452-0416 e-mail remoran@dconstructs.com e-mail remoran@kiwi.futuris.net Web Site: List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 16:11:37-GMT,2901;000000000001 Received: from CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU (uacsc2.albany.edu [169.226.1.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29897 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:11:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via spool with SMTP id 6420 ; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:12:09 EDT Received: from CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@ALBNYVM1) by CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU (LMail V1.2c/1.8c) with BSMTP id 2290; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:12:05 -0400 Received: from CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU by CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8c) with spool id 5163 for EMJ@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:12:02 -0400 Received: from ALBNYVM1 (NJE origin SMTP@ALBNYVM1) by CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU (LMail V1.2c/1.8c) with BSMTP id 2242; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:09:58 -0400 Received: from sarah.albany.edu [169.226.1.103] by CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:09:57 EDT Received: from fenris.math.albany.edu (fenris.math.albany.edu [169.226.23.39]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23765 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:09:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mark@localhost) by fenris.math.albany.edu (8.8.4/8.8.3) id MAA23233 for EMJ@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:09:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Approved-By: Mark Steinberger Message-ID: <199805121609.MAA23233@fenris.math.albany.edu> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:09:01 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Math Journals Discussion List Sender: Electronic Math Journals Discussion List From: Mark Steinberger Subject: Re: pdf question To: EMJ@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU In-Reply-To: <9805121543.AA07098@rkd.mr.ams.org.mr.ams.org> from "R. Keith Dennis" at May 12, 98 11:43:06 am **************************************************************** * archive: http://math.albany.edu:8800/hm/emj/ * * glimpse index: http://nyjm.albany.edu:8000/SF/emjsearch.html * **************************************************************** Keith writes: > Is it possible to put links into a pdf document constructed from the > scanned image of a book or paper? It's always possible to put in links by hand, using Acrobat Exchange. Is this what you had in mind, or are you looking for automatic conversion of URLs or other information into links? --Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Steinberger | Dept. of Math. & Stat | Nonlinear similarity begins in dimension six. SUNY at Albany | Albany, NY 12222 | mark@csc.albany.edu | http://math.albany.edu:8800/~mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 16:47:55-GMT,3502;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00844 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:47:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA30620; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:17:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 11:11:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30321; Tue, 12 May 1998 11:10:59 -0500 X-Sender: csisler@mail.capitalprinting.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:10:18 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Craig Sisler Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for May-12-98 [V2 #217] In-Reply-To: <199805121207.HAA18392@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19980512121757.0ec3ed08.in@mail.pageup.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> I am creating a CD ROM with multiple files/file types. When the CD is >> first opened, files which are shown include a ReadMe.txt which directs >> the user to the other shown file, CONTENTS.PDF. This PDF >> file then has >> a description of files and links to PDF and Word files. All >> other files >> on the CD are sorted into appropriate folders. >> >> Problem: >> >> Those who have viewed the CD have asked that the CONTENTS.PDF file be >> more obvious, visually distinguished in some way. >> >> Any suggestions? The solution must be applicable for both PC and Mac >> users. > >No Windows solution. The icon comes from the file type. > >I'd be inclined to use a different name which put it first alphabetically, >that may help. > >OR, put CONTENTS.PDF by itself in the top level folder. That's probably >the most user friendly approach. > We have used the second approach suggested above and found that it is more than acceptable for our clients; i.e., the first and only thing seen when accessing the CD-ROM is a folder called CONTENTS. Inside that folder the is CONTENTS.PDF (and additional folders each of which contain one of more PDF files sorted logically---in addition to a folder containing various flavors of the Acrobat Reader for end-user installation). We (and our clients) have found that the intuition of even the most inexperienced user can handle the above approach; however, FWIW, we also include a "help" page (on actual paper!) that describes what Acrobat is and how to install the Reader, and explains how to access/use the CD-ROM. But, if the CD is not shipping in a book of any kind and it is impractical to enclose such a "help" sheet with the CD, you could print very brief instructions right on the front of the CD with the product name or whatever. Craig Sisler ********************** Craig L. Sisler Director of Information Systems Capital Printing Systems Inc. 919 Third Avenue, 10th Floor New York, NY 10022 direct ph: 212.980.4464 main ph: 212.735.3456 fax: 212.735.2329 email: csisler@capitalprinting.com Capital Website: www.capitalprinting.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 19:30:22-GMT,2299;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05240 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 13:30:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA05310; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:02:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 13:56:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05009; Tue, 12 May 1998 13:56:22 -0500 Message-ID: <000701bd7dd8$43a77da0$ed0c0bc6@focusmelanson> From: "Rick Melanson" To: , <'Framers@FrameUsers.com'> Subject: [PDF] Acrobat PDF, Fuzzy Graphics in Frame ????? Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:00:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello PDF and Framers lists, I have seen numerous postings on both lists discussing problems with the importing of graphics into Frame, then creating a PDF file and more problems with displaying the PDF so it is clear, or not Fuzzy as many have said. Again there have been numerous postings on both lists describing everyone's experiences and the corresponding things they did to fix the above. I would like to take the bull by the horns and ask EVERYONE who has posted a question or an answer to respond to me directly with whatever you have posted. I will then take ALL the INFORMATION/RESPONSES and compile them so that everyone will have access to ALL of the fixes. I will then repost the compiled and organized information back to both lists. Hopefully this will help everyone to address their Frame/PDF fuzzy problems. Thank you. Rick Melanson rmelanso@micrion.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 20:10:01-GMT,3673;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06385 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:10:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07654; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:49:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 14:44:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07383; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:44:56 -0500 From: "Michael R. Cessna" Organization: Cessna Publishing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:44:58 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Announce: FREE Acrobat Utility Message-ID: <19980512194445.AAB14344@ns1.win.net.win.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Announcing cpInfoExtractor A Freeware Acrobat Exchange utility for Windows 95 It's already been tested on thousands of files...but I'd like any input someone could offer, before releasing it as a non-beta. E-mail me and I'll send you a copy of cpInfoExtractor. When the non-beta version is ready for release you will be able to download it from http://www.win.net/cessnapub/acrobat/cpie. Note: This web page is not up and running yet! cpInfoExtractor is a Freeware utility to extract information from a batch of pdf files. With cpInfoExtractor you can create a CSV (comma separated values) file with the following information: Options marked with a * require Acrobat Exchange. a. Author* b. Creation Date* c. Creator* d. File Name e. File Size (Bytes) f. Keywords* g. Modified Date (PDF Format)* h. Page Count* i. Path j. Path + File Name k. Producer* l. Subject* m. Time Stamp n. Title* o. Today's Date This CSV file can be loaded in to a spreadsheet or database and manipulated there. This allows you to quickly create a database of all your pdf files. The first line of the CSV file will contain the field headings. Other features: Presets: 1. Compose Automatically create CSV files for use with Ambia's "Fill Document Information" plug-in. I need someone to test this...as I don't have this plug-in. :) I followed the CSV format documented by Ambia. Note: When this CSV file is generated the first line will NOT contain the field headings. 2. cpMasterEdit Automatically create CSV files for use with cpMasterEdit. cpMasterEdit is a utility under development by Cessna Publishing. With cpMasterEdit you will be able to edit many different pdf attributes. You will be able to use cpMasterEdit with either the CSV file created by cpInfoExtractor, or with a list generated by a search of pdf files (you will also be able to save/load and edit lists within cpMasterEdit). The following attributes will be editable in batch mode: a. Author b. Creator c. Keywords d. Producer e. Subject f. Time Stamp g. Title h. Convert all files to upper case i. Convert all files to lower case j. Convert long file names to 8.3 file names k. Convert file names to the ISO 9600 format* l. Print the first page m. Print a range of pages n. Optimize files * To be determined ...and more. Regards, Michael Cessna Cessna Publishing "Making information useful." mcessna@ckt.net ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-May-1998 20:11:27-GMT,2800;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06416 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:11:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07880; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:53:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 May 1998 14:50:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07686; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:49:59 -0500 Message-ID: <000801bd7dde$dbc22f30$9956c897@dale.querisoft.com> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat PDF, Fuzzy Graphics in Frame ????? Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:47:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rick Melanson suggested: >I have seen numerous postings on both lists discussing problems with the >importing of graphics into Frame, then creating a PDF file and more problems >with displaying the PDF so it is clear, or not Fuzzy as many have said. >Again there have been numerous postings on both lists describing everyone's >experiences and the corresponding things they did to fix the above. I would >like to take the bull by the horns and ask EVERYONE who has posted a >question or an answer to respond to me directly with whatever you have >posted. I will then take ALL the INFORMATION/RESPONSES and compile them so >that everyone will have access to ALL of the fixes. I will then repost the >compiled and organized information back to both lists. Hopefully this will >help everyone to address their Frame/PDF fuzzy problems. Thank you. > An excellent suggestion...here are a couple of articles off the Adobe support database that provide some insights: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/76b6.htm Capturing Screen Images in Mac OS and in Windows http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/991a.htm Captured Screen Images in Acrobat PDF Files I'd love to see what tricks others have come up with -- I'm wrestling with exactly this issue right now for some product data sheets I'm trying to prepare. Regards, Dale Gardner ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 14:27:33-GMT,2087;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19737 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 08:27:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA12902; Wed, 13 May 1998 08:56:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 08:45:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12091; Wed, 13 May 1998 08:45:21 -0500 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat and ODMA? Message-Id: <"0513134447-Acrobat and ODMA?"@MHS> Date: 13 May 1998 08:41:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does Acrobat Exchange support ODMA? (It'd be useful for Capture, PDFWriter, Distiller, and maybe even Catalog too) ODMA is the Open Document Management Association, which has created an API for interfacing between client applications and Document Management servers. See http://www.aiim.org/odma/odma.html for more info. ODMA support would allow fetching of PDF docs from document management systems, and, if supported completely, should allow hyperlinks between documents that all reside on the document management system to work properly. It's possible that this could be implemented as a plug-in to exchange, adding a new file system. I'm not entirely sure, since I'm not deep into the API yet. Anyone know more? Joel Finkle G.D. Searle joel.finkle@monsanto.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 15:59:01-GMT,1581;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23717 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 09:59:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19499; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:36:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 10:30:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19172; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:30:13 -0500 Message-ID: <005a01bd7e8d$17eae340$0900a8c0@RANDALL> From: "Randy Chamzuk" To: Subject: [PDF] launch application message box Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:35:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a way that I can suppress the message box that pops up when calling another program from within reader/exchange? ( message: Acrobat is about to launch this application.....yes/no/all ) Randy ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 16:01:00-GMT,2039;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23797 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:00:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19909; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:43:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 10:39:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19656; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:39:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980513084320.007d76e0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 08:43:20 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] launch application message box In-Reply-To: <005a01bd7e8d$17eae340$0900a8c0@RANDALL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 After clicking "Yes", go into the acroread.ini and see what it says, then add this entry to a customized install of Reader. At 09:35 AM 5/13/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Is there a way that I can suppress the message box that pops up when calling >another program from within reader/exchange? ( message: Acrobat is about to >launch this application.....yes/no/all ) > > > >Randy > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 16:03:52-GMT,1571;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23892 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:03:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20445; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:51:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 10:47:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20187; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:47:28 -0500 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256603.00564873.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 11:48:30 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Viewing PDF filename within browser title Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I was wondering if there is a way to setup a pdf file so that its file name can be viewed within a browsers (i.e. Netscape, Windows IE) Title area. For example an HTML file has: filename code that allows the filename to be viewed within a browsers Title area. Comments are welcome. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 16:09:00-GMT,1820;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24144 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:08:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20887; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:58:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 10:55:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20659; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:55:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Linking in PDF to non-PDF on the WEB Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 08:54:19 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A programmer I am working with would like to link from a PDF document to a non-PDF file. The PDF is in a frame and he wants the file he links to be displayed in the full browser window (Netscape or Explorer). Here is his description of the problem: In a WEB browser, how do you get a link in PDF (inside a frame) to expand to the full area of the browser. In HTML, it seems that adding the following code to the HREF statement works: target = _top Thank you, Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 16:24:32-GMT,1952;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24694 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 10:24:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA21632; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:10:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 11:06:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21396; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:06:22 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] launch application message box Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 17:04:45 +0100 Message-ID: <001901bd7e88$eafdde40$4bf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <005a01bd7e8d$17eae340$0900a8c0@RANDALL> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Absolutely not. This message is there to make downloading PDF files from the internet safe. Without it, you could not trust PDF files not to do unpleasant things to your system. It should prevent unpleasantless like the "Word viruses" which has been such an annoyance. Aandi > > Is there a way that I can suppress the message box that pops > up when calling > another program from within reader/exchange? ( message: > Acrobat is about to > launch this application.....yes/no/all ) ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 17:01:55-GMT,2544;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26228 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:01:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23279; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:38:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 11:34:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23000; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:34:45 -0500 Message-ID: <012801bd7e96$1dc9cac0$0900a8c0@RANDALL> From: "Randy Chamzuk" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] launch application message box Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:39:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yeah, I understand the need for it, but it wont register with windows or acrobat that this program has been run before, so the user will see it everytime.....correct? -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wednesday, May 13, 1998 9:20 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] launch application message box > >Absolutely not. This message is there to make downloading >PDF files from the internet safe. Without it, you could not >trust PDF files not to do unpleasant things to your system. >It should prevent unpleasantless like the "Word viruses" >which has been such an annoyance. > >Aandi >> >> Is there a way that I can suppress the message box that pops >> up when calling >> another program from within reader/exchange? ( message: >> Acrobat is about to >> launch this application.....yes/no/all ) >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 17:09:24-GMT,2437;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26606 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:09:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA24424; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:59:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 11:55:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24205; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:55:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3559D2C4.898939E@lsijax.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:05:08 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] launch application message box X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <001901bd7e88$eafdde40$4bf582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yes, but this also happens on my system when I'm just trying to open a sound file (also on my system). I didn't use to...was this a 'feature' of 3.01. It gets very annoying. Is there no way to differentiate the cases??? Tracie Aandi Inston wrote: > Absolutely not. This message is there to make downloading > PDF files from the internet safe. Without it, you could not > trust PDF files not to do unpleasant things to your system. > It should prevent unpleasantless like the "Word viruses" > which has been such an annoyance. > > Aandi > > > > Is there a way that I can suppress the message box that pops > > up when calling > > another program from within reader/exchange? ( message: > > Acrobat is about to > > launch this application.....yes/no/all ) > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 17:37:51-GMT,2578;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27615 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:37:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA25407; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:16:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 12:12:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25126; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:12:15 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] launch application message box Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:07:50 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01bd7e92$1f855a40$4bf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <012801bd7e96$1dc9cac0$0900a8c0@RANDALL> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yes, each time you run the PDF, though ALL suppresses messages for the rest of the current PDF. Here's the problem: suppose there was some place (an INI file, the registry or whatever) which remembered the state of this. It wouldn't take long for a developer focussed on their own issues to add entries to this, and remove the user's protection. So, the need is unfortunate, but there it is. > > Yeah, I understand the need for it, but it wont register with > windows or > acrobat that this program has been run before, so the user will see it > everytime.....correct? > > > > > >Absolutely not. This message is there to make downloading > >PDF files from the internet safe. Without it, you could not > >trust PDF files not to do unpleasant things to your system. > >It should prevent unpleasantless like the "Word viruses" > >which has been such an annoyance. > > > >Aandi > >> > >> Is there a way that I can suppress the message box that pops > >> up when calling > >> another program from within reader/exchange? ( message: > >> Acrobat is about to > >> launch this application.....yes/no/all ) Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 17:40:17-GMT,2453;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27725 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 11:40:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA25870; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:24:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 12:20:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25693; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:20:57 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] launch application message box Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:19:17 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01bd7e93$4c061040$4bf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3559D2C4.898939E@lsijax.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Acrobat doesn't know (or doesn't choose to guess) that any particular external file is "safe". If you embed sounds as QuickTime movies or via the Play Sound action there will be no message. > > Yes, but this also happens on my system when I'm just trying to > open a sound file (also on my system). I didn't use to...was > this a 'feature' of 3.01. It gets very annoying. Is there no > way to differentiate the cases??? > > Tracie > > Aandi Inston wrote: > > > Absolutely not. This message is there to make downloading > > PDF files from the internet safe. Without it, you could not > > trust PDF files not to do unpleasant things to your system. > > It should prevent unpleasantless like the "Word viruses" > > which has been such an annoyance. > > > > Aandi > > > > > > Is there a way that I can suppress the message box that pops > > > up when calling > > > another program from within reader/exchange? ( message: > > > Acrobat is about to > > > launch this application.....yes/no/all ) ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 19:00:34-GMT,2413;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01138 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 13:00:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29374; Wed, 13 May 1998 13:36:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 13:32:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29103; Wed, 13 May 1998 13:32:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: webweavr@shell11.ba.best.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 11:30:02 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Chris Beaumont Subject: [PDF] Search engine or HTML conversion engine for PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm looking for an easy way to go to HTML content from PDF. I've been receiving content for websites from clients in PDF format, and the old cut-and-paste method is prohibitively time consuming. I've seen several products (wierd that you would _need_ a product- to assist with the cutting and pasting process, when every DTP product exports HTML these days..) but nothing that would let me batch convert PDF to HTML. (wierd, isn't it?) A (pretty unacceptable) alternative would be a CGI that enabled searching the PDF's on a web site, but that pretty much is unacceptable because the pages wouldnt be indexed by 'real' search engines (like Excite,Infoseek, etc.) Meta-information doesnt work because with byteserved PDF you would need to put keywords for a whole site on just one page.. (unacceptable because the pages would get lost in the Internet 'noise') This is for a (very) important database on a medical subject that should be accessible to everyone, even people using browsers like LYNX, or very old hardware in 3rd world countries... Any ideas? Thank you _ Chris Beaumont / WebWeavers Web site creation, graphics & design E-mail: chris@ncafe.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 20:41:41-GMT,2540;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04922 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 14:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA03704; Wed, 13 May 1998 15:13:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 15:09:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03318; Wed, 13 May 1998 15:09:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3559FE5B.5BEC71D5@primary.net> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:11:07 -0500 From: Randy Hoggard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf-L Subject: [PDF] Reader 3.01 prints blanks, 2.1 prints OK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, My name is randy Hoggard and I work for Moog Automotive. We have 400 Salespersons using a Dell 133 Latitude Laptop PC running WIN95. They have been using Reader 2.1 for about a year and a half. I finally convinced our MIS department to download to them Reader 3.01. Cool but.... We create many documents using Acrobat 3.01 . Our graphics department uses the Mac version. They create fliers using Quark 3.3 then distill with MAC Distiller 3.01. The documents they create look fine on the salesperson's screen using Reader 3.01 . But when they try to print these one page fliers, only a small section of the page will print. On one example a text line at the bottom of the page will print. On another one, only a small line drawing will print. The crazy thing is, if I open these files with 2.1 Reader, they print fine. I've been preaching the usefulness of upgrading every since 3.0 reader came out. Now that I finally got MIS to comply, the users are having trouble with it. MIS thinks I'm a fool. Can you folks help? I have tried everything I can think of. I'd be happy to email one of the problem files if anyone thinks looking at it might help. The their average size is 39K . Thanks in advance, Randy Hoggard rhogggard@primary.net (314) 977-0779 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 20:51:36-GMT,3208;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05206 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 14:51:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05202; Wed, 13 May 1998 15:38:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 15:34:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04955; Wed, 13 May 1998 15:34:24 -0500 From: jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENSORIUM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <86256603.005B4C9B.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 11:38:47 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] launch application message box Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I thought it was a violation of the End User Liscence Agreement ( EULA ) to change the installation in any way when distributing Acrobat Reader. Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software Scott Hamlow on 05/13/98 10:43:20 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Jeremy Treister/Sensorium) Subject: Re: [PDF] launch application message box After clicking "Yes", go into the acroread.ini and see what it says, then add this entry to a customized install of Reader. At 09:35 AM 5/13/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Is there a way that I can suppress the message box that pops up when calling >another program from within reader/exchange? ( message: Acrobat is about to >launch this application.....yes/no/all ) > > > >Randy > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 13-May-1998 21:26:06-GMT,3909;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06512 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 15:26:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA06376; Wed, 13 May 1998 15:59:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 15:55:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06113; Wed, 13 May 1998 15:55:34 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980513135930.007c5dc0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:59:30 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] launch application message box In-Reply-To: <86256603.005B4C9B.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It's a violation to change the installer, not customize the installation. Look at ABCPYDOC.INI. It's a file by Adobe that explains how to use their installer to customize the installation. At 11:38 AM 5/13/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I thought it was a violation of the End User Liscence Agreement ( EULA ) to >change the installation in any way when distributing Acrobat Reader. > >Jeremy Treister >Sensorium Software > > > > > >Scott Hamlow on 05/13/98 10:43:20 AM > >Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > cc: (bcc: Jeremy Treister/Sensorium) > > > > Subject: Re: [PDF] launch application message box > > > > > > > > >After clicking "Yes", go into the acroread.ini and see what it says, then >add this entry to a customized install of Reader. > >At 09:35 AM 5/13/98 -0700, you wrote: >> >>Is there a way that I can suppress the message box that pops up when >calling >>another program from within reader/exchange? ( message: Acrobat is about >to >>launch this application.....yes/no/all ) >> >> >> >>Randy >> >>===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >>For more info: John Cook >>List-related questions: >>Sub/Unsub: >>--------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 2:42:41-GMT,2552;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16888 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 20:42:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA18530; Wed, 13 May 1998 21:18:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 21:13:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18311; Wed, 13 May 1998 21:13:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat and ODMA? Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:13:58 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Joel, Acrobat doesnt support ODMA, but there are companies developing plugins for DMS and Acrobat, to allow interlinking between PDF documents in a repository situation. I found a good start was to visit the http:/www.docctrl.com web site. Unfortunately ODMA wouldn't solve the interlinking problem. ODMA specs don't go that far. They cover everything from paper/e-file(OCR) to storage to retrieval/searching, but the interlinking problem doesnt fall into this category. If you would like contact me off list and I will supply you with a bunch of emails I have kept on this subject. d.......................... > Does Acrobat Exchange support ODMA? (It'd be useful for Capture, > PDFWriter, Distiller, and maybe even Catalog too) > > ODMA is the Open Document Management Association, which has > created an > API for interfacing between client applications and Document > Management servers. See http://www.aiim.org/odma/odma.html for > more > info. > > ODMA support would allow fetching of PDF docs from document > management > systems, and, if supported completely, should allow hyperlinks > between > documents that all reside on the document management system to > work > properly. > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 2:42:46-GMT,2412;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16895 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 20:42:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA18529; Wed, 13 May 1998 21:18:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 May 1998 21:13:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18339; Wed, 13 May 1998 21:13:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Viewing PDF filename within browser title Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:15:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 An idea would be to extract the title from the PDF file (use a free plugin) and then do the on-the-fly code to generate a HTML title with the extracted information. Nice theory but I may require more work than it's worth?... d................... > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com [SMTP:Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 1998 11:48 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Viewing PDF filename within browser title > > > I was wondering if there is a way to setup a pdf file so that its file > name > can be viewed within a browsers (i.e. Netscape, Windows IE) Title > area. > For example an HTML file has: filename code that > allows > the filename to be viewed within a browsers Title area. > > Comments are welcome. > > > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 8:46:20-GMT,1817;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14943 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 02:46:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA29990; Thu, 14 May 1998 03:27:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 03:20:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29823; Thu, 14 May 1998 03:20:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199805140820.DAA29816@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 3.01 prints blanks, 2.1 prints OK Date: Thu, 14 May 98 10:20:36 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >everything I can think of. I'd be happy to email one of the problem >files if anyone thinks looking at it might help. The their average size >is 39K . >Thanks in advance, Randy Hoggard rhogggard@primary.net (314) 977-0779 You've not specified these important things: - Compatibility mode in Distiller (2.1 or 3.0) - Kind of printer (PS, PCL, QD, etc.) You can send me privately a sample file, specifying which were the conditions; I can suggest you to try both the compatibility modes and printing on a PS printer before. Andrea valle@graphos.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 15:19:56-GMT,4605;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25758 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 09:19:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA10494; Thu, 14 May 1998 09:45:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 09:37:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10086; Thu, 14 May 1998 09:37:32 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980514093644.006a95e4@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 09:36:55 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: Re: [PDF] Announce: FREE Acrobat Utility Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello- we would be interested in this plug in InfoExtractor for the acrobat Exchange. how could I acquire this? thanks! At 02:44 PM 5/12/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Announcing cpInfoExtractor >A Freeware Acrobat Exchange utility for Windows 95 > >It's already been tested on thousands of files...but I'd like any >input someone could offer, before releasing it as a non-beta. > >E-mail me and I'll send you a copy of cpInfoExtractor. > >When the non-beta version is ready for release you will be able to >download it from http://www.win.net/cessnapub/acrobat/cpie. Note: >This web page is not up and running yet! > >cpInfoExtractor is a Freeware utility to extract information from a >batch of pdf files. With cpInfoExtractor you can create a CSV (comma >separated values) file with the following information: > >Options marked with a * require Acrobat Exchange. > >a. Author* >b. Creation Date* >c. Creator* >d. File Name >e. File Size (Bytes) >f. Keywords* >g. Modified Date (PDF Format)* >h. Page Count* >i. Path >j. Path + File Name >k. Producer* >l. Subject* >m. Time Stamp >n. Title* >o. Today's Date > >This CSV file can be loaded in to a spreadsheet or database and >manipulated there. This allows you to quickly create a database of >all your pdf files. The first line of the CSV file will contain the >field headings. > >Other features: > >Presets: > >1. Compose > >Automatically create CSV files for use with Ambia's "Fill Document >Information" plug-in. I need someone to test this...as I don't have >this plug-in. :) I followed the CSV format documented by Ambia. >Note: When this CSV file is generated the first line will NOT contain >the field headings. > >2. cpMasterEdit > >Automatically create CSV files for use with cpMasterEdit. >cpMasterEdit is a utility under development by Cessna Publishing. >With cpMasterEdit you will be able to edit many different pdf >attributes. You will be able to use cpMasterEdit with either the CSV >file created by cpInfoExtractor, or with a list generated by a >search of pdf files (you will also be able to save/load and edit >lists within cpMasterEdit). > >The following attributes will be editable in batch mode: > >a. Author >b. Creator >c. Keywords >d. Producer >e. Subject >f. Time Stamp >g. Title >h. Convert all files to upper case >i. Convert all files to lower case >j. Convert long file names to 8.3 file names >k. Convert file names to the ISO 9600 format* >l. Print the first page >m. Print a range of pages >n. Optimize files > >* To be determined > >...and more. > >Regards, > >Michael Cessna >Cessna Publishing >"Making information useful." >mcessna@ckt.net > > > > > > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook < >List-related questions: < >Sub/Unsub: < >--------------------------------------------------------- > > Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS ph: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 check us out -- 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.omnipress.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 16:01:35-GMT,4849;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27281 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:01:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13518; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:40:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 10:37:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13324; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:37:50 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980514153742.01442588@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> X-Sender: sasrzs@mailhost.fyi.sas.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 11:37:42 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randy Stoltz Subject: Re: [PDF] Search engine or HTML conversion engine for PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There are several ways to create HTML from PDF one being to use the Acrobat capture program. I have not used this so I cannot help you with it. I have a similar task where users generate PDF documents that need to be converted to HTML. I output the PDF to a PostScript file using the Acrobat Reader and then use the pstotext program to create a text file. You can also use the gsview ( http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html - also has a link to the pstotext program) program to extract the text. There are many ways to convert text to html, but in my case I wanted to automate the whole process. I wrote a program using SAS (perl could also be used) to read the text file and build the html pages for 40 - 50 documents. This whole process can be run interactively or in batch. If you are dealing with a lot of PDFs or want to update the HTML file frequently I recommend writing your own program. Otherwise you can pull the text file into any web builder application and create the html. In my case the documents used a very similar template so the text output was somewhat structured which makes the programming easier. You can do all of this on a PC but in my case the document is created on a PC running Windows NT, The conversion to PS and text run on UNIX since our web server is on UNIX, and I pull in reference material (schedule dates and locations) with the SAS program from a MVS mainframe. Since HTML cannot maintain the formatting the HTML version does not match the PDF, I put a link in the HTML file to the original PDF document. Thus the user can view of download the formatted version. At 11:30 AM 5/13/98 -0800, you wrote: > >I'm looking for an easy way to go to HTML content from PDF. >I've been receiving content for websites from clients in PDF format, and >the old cut-and-paste method is prohibitively time consuming. I've seen >several products (wierd that you would _need_ a product- to assist with the >cutting and pasting process, when every DTP product exports HTML these >days..) but nothing that would let me batch convert PDF to HTML. >(wierd, isn't it?) A (pretty unacceptable) alternative would be a CGI that >enabled searching the PDF's on a web site, but that pretty much is >unacceptable because the pages wouldnt be indexed by 'real' search engines >(like Excite,Infoseek, etc.) Meta-information doesnt work because with >byteserved PDF you would need to put keywords for a whole site on just one >page.. (unacceptable because the pages would get lost in the Internet >'noise') > >This is for a (very) important database on a medical subject that should be >accessible to everyone, even people using browsers like LYNX, or very old >hardware in 3rd world countries... > > >Any ideas? > >Thank you > >_ >Chris Beaumont / WebWeavers >Web site creation, graphics & design > >E-mail: chris@ncafe.com > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > _____________________________________________________________________ Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 ____________________________________________________________________ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 16:01:39-GMT,1569;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27285 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:01:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA12587; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:22:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 10:20:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12433; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:20:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980514101926.006a9f3c@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:19:37 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] bad reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDF-L'ers apologize about the reply to entire list! Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS ph: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 check us out -- 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.omnipress.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 20:06:57-GMT,2178;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03891 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 14:06:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22835; Thu, 14 May 1998 13:54:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 13:48:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22580; Thu, 14 May 1998 13:48:47 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980514144840.012d41dc@execulink.com> X-Sender: mstowe@execulink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:48:40 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Marg Stowe Subject: [PDF] pdf file size Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am finding that generally, pdf files that I create from Pagemaker for print are too large to be workable and are therefore virtually useless to me as portable documents. The files are generally more than twice the size of the original. For example, I have a one page document of press clippings, 5 jpg graphics total about 2 megs of graphics. The smallest pdf file size I can get it over 4 megs. I have tried various compression options but the file size remains the same. The only thing I can do is choose [Screen] which downsamples to 72dpi. It is a workable size but of course it looks terrible when printed. I created a 2 page brochure, pagemaker file size 1 meg containing a few very small jpg graphics. The pdf file size is 17 megs! Please give me some hint as to what I'm doing wrong or how I can make these files smaller. Thanks, Marg Marg Stowe mstowe@execulink.com http://www.execulink.com/~mstowe ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 20:09:17-GMT,2799;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03965 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 14:09:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA25274; Thu, 14 May 1998 14:39:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 14:37:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25157; Thu, 14 May 1998 14:37:11 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf file size Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 20:36:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bd7f6f$8d5b24e0$2ff582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980514144840.012d41dc@execulink.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I am finding that generally, pdf files that I create from > Pagemaker for print are too large to be workable and are > therefore virtually useless to me as portable documents. The > files are generally more than twice the size of the original. > For example, I have a one page document of press clippings, 5 > jpg graphics total about 2 megs of graphics. The smallest pdf > file size I can get it over 4 megs. I have tried various > compression options but the file size remains the same. The > only thing I can do is choose [Screen] which downsamples to > 72dpi. It is a workable size but of course it looks terrible > when printed. > I created a 2 page brochure, pagemaker file size 1 meg > containing a few very small jpg graphics. The pdf file size > is 17 megs! The problem is probably the really, really, stupid way the settings in the PDF export plug-in were created. I hope the creators have got the message now and are appropriately embarrassed. The problem is that the "print" profile has no compression at all. This is stupid (did I say that?). What it should have had was manual ZIP (8 bit) compression. Make your own profile, based on Print but with the compression changed, and forget you ever saw the one Adobe gave you (did I mention it is particularly stupid?) For monochrome, use CCITT-4 compression. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 20:33:38-GMT,1611;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04638 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 14:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26831; Thu, 14 May 1998 15:12:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 15:06:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26514; Thu, 14 May 1998 15:06:19 -0500 X-Sender: mcclosk@socrates.ucsf.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199805141537.KAA13342@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 13:08:24 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "paul j. mccloskey" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat/FM Pro acgi for forms Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 anybody know where i can find the missing link? supposedly there's an acgi available for linking acrobat form to fm pro dbs on adobe's website....can't seem to find it. also, any examples out there of using these hooks from .pdf form to fm pro....how about an action to send email copy of the acrobat form? paul ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 21:16:20-GMT,2204;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05733 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 15:16:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28984; Thu, 14 May 1998 15:57:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 15:52:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28701; Thu, 14 May 1998 15:52:56 -0500 Message-ID: <355B5A38.A282364D@document-solutions.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 13:55:20 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Odd Search results Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Fellow PDF'ers: I recieved the following from a contact. I verified her claim regarding search preferences and she IS using Type 1 PS fonts uniformly. Can anyone shed light on the problem she is experiencing? >> We've been testing our beta CD-ROM created with Adobe Acrobat >> Exchange and Catalog and were astonished to find that we got different >> search results using the exact same query, preferences etc. in different >> platforms. Specifically, a query of "computers AND exemptions" found >> sixteen documents in Windows 3.1, but found only ten in Windows 95. The >> indexes are identical, the .pdf files are identical, in fact one and the same. TIA. -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 21:43:21-GMT,2925;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06368 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 15:43:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA30124; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:23:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 16:17:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29864; Thu, 14 May 1998 16:17:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:18:08 -0700 From: jrs@net.com (John Switzer) Message-Id: <199805142118.OAA02386@viola.net.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Odd Search results Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: qFd0BzAFkiDzyJ3Ql6mE9Q== Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've seen sort of the same thing here - we have the same situation: a CD-ROM full of PDF files that is indexed by Catalog. When we search on Unix and Windows PC's, a search for "Promina" runs just fine; when we do the same search on Mac computers, searching for "Promina" returns a fatal error that aborts the search. Searching for phrases that include "Promina" as one of several words works on all platforms, though. > > Fellow PDF'ers: > > I recieved the following from a contact. I verified her claim regarding > search preferences and she IS using Type 1 PS fonts uniformly. Can > anyone shed light on the problem she is experiencing? > > >> We've been testing our beta CD-ROM created with Adobe Acrobat > > >> Exchange and Catalog and were astonished to find that we got > different > >> search results using the exact same query, preferences etc. in > different > >> platforms. Specifically, a query of "computers AND exemptions" found > > >> sixteen documents in Windows 3.1, but found only ten in Windows 95. > The > >> indexes are identical, the .pdf files are identical, in fact one and > the same. > > TIA. > > -- > > regards, > > Duff Johnson > > President, Document Solutions, Inc. > 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 > Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 > duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 14-May-1998 23:35:57-GMT,1676;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09145 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 17:35:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA01311; Thu, 14 May 1998 18:12:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 18:07:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01119; Thu, 14 May 1998 18:07:53 -0500 Message-ID: <003701bd7f8d$254d9680$0100a8c0@fred> From: "Fred Orcutt" To: Subject: [PDF] Third Party Plug-in Allows Save??? Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:08:01 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have heard that there is a third-party plug-in for Reader which allows the saving of forms with field entries intact. This would be of great interest to our users whose needs don't justify moving up to retail Acrobat. If such a plug-in is available, would someone kindly point me to it. TIA, Fred Orcutt DSA Webmaster/LAN Coordinator Idaho State Controller's Office forcutt@sco.state.id.us ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 15-May-1998 2:00:43-GMT,2153;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11984 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 20:00:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA05965; Thu, 14 May 1998 20:40:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 20:36:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05818; Thu, 14 May 1998 20:36:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'Aandi Inston'" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf file size Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:39:18 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have come across this and it IS stupid, especially when you have 10 meg files and go to create a PDF - you end up with _HUMUNGOUS_ PDF files.. I hope Adobe see this and correct the current setup in the next ver. d........................ > The problem is probably the really, really, stupid way the settings > in the PDF export plug-in were created. I hope the creators have > got the message now and are appropriately embarrassed. > > The problem is that the "print" profile has no compression at > all. This is stupid (did I say that?). What it should have had > was manual ZIP (8 bit) compression. Make your own profile, based > on Print but with the compression changed, and forget you ever > saw the one Adobe gave you (did I mention it is particularly > stupid?) For monochrome, use CCITT-4 compression. > > Aandi > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 15-May-1998 2:48:20-GMT,1704;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12898 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 20:48:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA07397; Thu, 14 May 1998 21:22:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 May 1998 21:20:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07281; Thu, 14 May 1998 21:20:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980514221944.012ecf8c@execulink.com> X-Sender: mstowe@execulink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:19:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Marg Stowe Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf file size In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 09:39 AM 5/15/98 +0800, you wrote: > >I have come across this and it IS stupid, especially when you have 10 >meg files and go to create a PDF - you end up with _HUMUNGOUS_ PDF >files.. > >I hope Adobe see this and correct the current setup in the next ver. ..the next FREE version! Marg Stowe mstowe@execulink.com http://www.execulink.com/~mstowe ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 15-May-1998 10:21:29-GMT,2112;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA11076 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 04:21:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA20616; Fri, 15 May 1998 04:55:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 May 1998 04:52:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20489; Fri, 15 May 1998 04:52:28 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Third Party Plug-in Allows Save??? Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:36:30 +0100 Message-ID: <001401bd7fe7$07549ac0$2ff582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003701bd7f8d$254d9680$0100a8c0@fred> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Such a thing could not legally be written by a third party developer, because it is specifically forbidden by the terms of the plug-in development license for Acrobat Reader. Of course, Adobe can choose to break their own rules, but I haven't heard of them choosing to do so. Have you looking into volume purchases of Exchange? > > I have heard that there is a third-party plug-in for Reader > which allows the > saving of forms with field entries intact. This would be of > great interest > to our users whose needs don't justify moving up to retail Acrobat. > > If such a plug-in is available, would someone kindly point me to it. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 15-May-1998 13:01:33-GMT,4421;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15117 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 07:01:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA25601; Fri, 15 May 1998 07:29:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 May 1998 07:25:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25477; Fri, 15 May 1998 07:25:46 -0500 Message-ID: <355C2E02.C449CAA3@boersen-zeitung.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:58:59 +0200 From: Tom Maier Organization: Wertpapier-Mitteilungen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Announce: FREE Acrobat Utility References: <19980512194445.AAB14344@ns1.win.net.win.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello Michael, sounds good. Please send me a copy of cpInfoExtractor. Thanks, Tom maier@boersen-zeitung.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- Michael R. Cessna wrote: > > Announcing cpInfoExtractor > A Freeware Acrobat Exchange utility for Windows 95 > > It's already been tested on thousands of files...but I'd like any > input someone could offer, before releasing it as a non-beta. > > E-mail me and I'll send you a copy of cpInfoExtractor. > > When the non-beta version is ready for release you will be able to > download it from http://www.win.net/cessnapub/acrobat/cpie. Note: > This web page is not up and running yet! > > cpInfoExtractor is a Freeware utility to extract information from a > batch of pdf files. With cpInfoExtractor you can create a CSV (comma > separated values) file with the following information: > > Options marked with a * require Acrobat Exchange. > > a. Author* > b. Creation Date* > c. Creator* > d. File Name > e. File Size (Bytes) > f. Keywords* > g. Modified Date (PDF Format)* > h. Page Count* > i. Path > j. Path + File Name > k. Producer* > l. Subject* > m. Time Stamp > n. Title* > o. Today's Date > > This CSV file can be loaded in to a spreadsheet or database and > manipulated there. This allows you to quickly create a database of > all your pdf files. The first line of the CSV file will contain the > field headings. > > Other features: > > Presets: > > 1. Compose > > Automatically create CSV files for use with Ambia's "Fill Document > Information" plug-in. I need someone to test this...as I don't have > this plug-in. :) I followed the CSV format documented by Ambia. > Note: When this CSV file is generated the first line will NOT contain > the field headings. > > 2. cpMasterEdit > > Automatically create CSV files for use with cpMasterEdit. > cpMasterEdit is a utility under development by Cessna Publishing. > With cpMasterEdit you will be able to edit many different pdf > attributes. You will be able to use cpMasterEdit with either the CSV > file created by cpInfoExtractor, or with a list generated by a > search of pdf files (you will also be able to save/load and edit > lists within cpMasterEdit). > > The following attributes will be editable in batch mode: > > a. Author > b. Creator > c. Keywords > d. Producer > e. Subject > f. Time Stamp > g. Title > h. Convert all files to upper case > i. Convert all files to lower case > j. Convert long file names to 8.3 file names > k. Convert file names to the ISO 9600 format* > l. Print the first page > m. Print a range of pages > n. Optimize files > > * To be determined > > ...and more. > > Regards, > > Michael Cessna > Cessna Publishing > "Making information useful." > mcessna@ckt.net > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 15-May-1998 13:53:09-GMT,2747;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16856 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 07:53:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA28187; Fri, 15 May 1998 08:31:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 May 1998 08:28:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27976; Fri, 15 May 1998 08:28:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <355C2E02.C449CAA3@boersen-zeitung.com> References: <19980512194445.AAB14344@ns1.win.net.win.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 08:26:13 -0500 To: maier@boersen-zeitung.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: STOP! Re: [PDF] Announce: FREE Acrobat Utility Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ** ATTENTION All: PLEASE do NOT burden all PDF & PDF-Digest list subscribers with replies that need only go to one individual. All such replies must be sent DIRECTLY to the original message poster, *not* to 1700+ list subscribers. ** ALSO, while I have everyone's attention: On appropriate messages sent to the list address, please take time to trim off the footer message from the message to which you're replying (if you're quoting some of the previous message) Otherwise, after several cumulative replies -- each automatically appending another footer -- it can quickly grow larger than the message itself. It's an unnecessary waste of bandwidth, especially when each message is part of a daily digest of messages. tks ~ Kurt === >Hello Michael, > >sounds good. Please send me a copy of .... > ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - => PDF lists: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html => PDFzone EXTRA: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars -30- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 15-May-1998 21:54:13-GMT,2253;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04860 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 15:54:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14513; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:24:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 May 1998 16:20:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14340; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:20:53 -0500 From: DLampel Message-ID: <925f8dfc.355cb19e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:20:28 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Selecting Text in a 2-column PDF Document Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 76 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 List Members: Succinctly-stated problem: Is there a way to select only text in one column of a 2-column layout in a PDF file? Background: I've been lurking for awhile, and have appreciated the good help the members of this list give each other. Now it is my turn, if anyone can kindly help me. I write & publish a monthly, 8-page, two-news column journal that I have just begun making available in PDF format. I create them using PDFWriter to retain the full text search. My plans have been to use Catalog to index 7 years' worth of these publications to have an efficient way to search and retrieve old text. Today I discovered that with the two-column format of the pages, selecting the text goes all the way across the page, which results in a lot of unwanted text being sent to the clipboard. Is this the 'nature of the beast" or is there something I can do to change this situation? Thank you in advance for your help. Dave David S. Lampel dlampel@aol.com http://members.aol.com/dlampel/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 15-May-1998 21:54:21-GMT,3375;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04874 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 15:54:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA15275; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:39:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 May 1998 16:37:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15120; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:37:10 -0500 Message-ID: <001601bd8049$a2eab2a0$63af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Selecting Text in a 2-column PDF Document Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:37:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Press the "abc" button to select the Text Selection Tool. Hold down the Ctrl button as you select text (on the Mac I think its the Apple button but you may have to verify). Note that when you hold down the Ctrl key, the cursor changes from a thingy to a thingy with a box in it. When you are in "thingy with a box in it" mode you can select text regions like you would expect select text to work. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. -----Original Message----- From: DLampel To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, May 15, 1998 5:22 PM Subject: [PDF] Selecting Text in a 2-column PDF Document > >List Members: > >Succinctly-stated problem: >Is there a way to select only text in one column of a 2-column layout in a PDF >file? > >Background: >I've been lurking for awhile, and have appreciated the good help the members >of this list give each other. Now it is my turn, if anyone can kindly help me. > >I write & publish a monthly, 8-page, two-news column journal that I have just >begun making available in PDF format. I create them using PDFWriter to retain >the full text search. My plans have been to use Catalog to index 7 years' >worth of these publications to have an efficient way to search and retrieve >old text. >Today I discovered that with the two-column format of the pages, selecting the >text goes all the way across the page, which results in a lot of unwanted text >being sent to the clipboard. > >Is this the 'nature of the beast" or is there something I can do to change >this situation? > >Thank you in advance for your help. >Dave > >David S. Lampel >dlampel@aol.com >http://members.aol.com/dlampel/ >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 15-May-1998 18:04:01-GMT,1626;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26126 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 12:04:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA05890; Fri, 15 May 1998 12:40:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 May 1998 12:33:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05548; Fri, 15 May 1998 12:33:33 -0500 Message-ID: <355C39CA.D0215F23@intranetsol.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:49:14 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] mail list problems??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I ahve not received any mail from the pdf@lists.pdfzone.com mailing list in several days, is there some problem??? If anyone gets this, please mail me at rdavis@intranetsol.com thanks. -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN. roy.davis@intranetsol.com ------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 15-May-1998 18:14:03-GMT,2222;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26491 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 12:14:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA06687; Fri, 15 May 1998 13:00:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 May 1998 12:58:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06514; Fri, 15 May 1998 12:58:14 -0500 Message-ID: <355C82B7.6AFB7D74@intranetsol.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:00:23 -0500 From: "Roy J. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] mail list problems??? References: <355C39CA.D0215F23@intranetsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 forget it, the problem has been fixed, sorry for any inconvenience. Roy J. Davis wrote: > > I ahve not received any mail from the pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > mailing list in several days, is there some problem??? > > If anyone gets this, please mail me at rdavis@intranetsol.com > > thanks. > > -- > ------------------------- > Roy J. Davis > Software Engineer > IntraNet Solutions, Inc. > Eden Prairie, MN. > roy.davis@intranetsol.com > ------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------- Roy J. Davis Software Engineer IntraNet Solutions, Inc. 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Check out the Electronic Publishing "Tip of the day" http://members.home.net/rburress/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 16-May-1998 9:13:25-GMT,1658;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11191 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 03:13:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA01024; Sat, 16 May 1998 03:54:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 16 May 1998 03:51:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00937; Sat, 16 May 1998 03:51:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Selecting Text in a 2-column PDF Document Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 07:52:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bd80a7$a6ab9b80$cbf582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <925f8dfc.355cb19e@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > Succinctly-stated problem: > Is there a way to select only text in one column of a > 2-column layout in a PDF > file? Hold down a modifier key (control?) as you select the text. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 16-May-1998 19:42:51-GMT,3475;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26422 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 13:42:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18983; Sat, 16 May 1998 14:19:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 16 May 1998 14:05:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18601; Sat, 16 May 1998 14:05:49 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Selecting Text in a 2-column PDF Document Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 20:05:04 +0100 Message-ID: <001901bd80fd$89048d20$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <925f8dfc.355cb19e@aol.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hold down the {ctrl} key while you select text. You can then drag a box or even column ;-) drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of DLampel > Sent: 15 May 1998 22:20 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Selecting Text in a 2-column PDF Document > > > > List Members: > > Succinctly-stated problem: > Is there a way to select only text in one column of a 2-column > layout in a PDF > file? > > Background: > I've been lurking for awhile, and have appreciated the good help > the members > of this list give each other. Now it is my turn, if anyone can > kindly help me. > > I write & publish a monthly, 8-page, two-news column journal that > I have just > begun making available in PDF format. I create them using > PDFWriter to retain > the full text search. My plans have been to use Catalog to index 7 years' > worth of these publications to have an efficient way to search > and retrieve > old text. > Today I discovered that with the two-column format of the pages, > selecting the > text goes all the way across the page, which results in a lot of > unwanted text > being sent to the clipboard. > > Is this the 'nature of the beast" or is there something I can do to change > this situation? > > Thank you in advance for your help. > Dave > > David S. Lampel > dlampel@aol.com > http://members.aol.com/dlampel/ > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 16-May-1998 22:01:00-GMT,2799;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00419 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 16:00:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA22975; Sat, 16 May 1998 16:39:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 16 May 1998 16:33:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22783; Sat, 16 May 1998 16:33:30 -0500 Message-ID: <355DF7EB.7608@btl.net> Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 15:32:43 -0500 From: Paul Stevenson Organization: Special F-X X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Your progress with Mags to PDF(Was: [PDF] How to convert magazines to PDF) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Will and friends, Just catching up on some PDF digests and found your question; snip>>> Subject: [PDF] How to convert magazines to PDF For some CD-ROM publications we want to convert some 50 magazines to PDF. Can anyone tell what is the fastest way? How large (Kbytes) becomes a A4 fc page as PDF? How long wil it take to convert aprox. 500 FC pages? << List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 16-May-1998 22:32:06-GMT,3038;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01491 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 16:32:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24903; Sat, 16 May 1998 17:31:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 16 May 1998 17:27:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24477; Sat, 16 May 1998 17:27:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 17:27:59 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com, CAPTURE@lists.pdfzone.com, PDFdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDFdev] 5.15.98 PDFzone *EXTRA* - Acrobat PDF Newsweekly Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 =================================================== V.03, N.014 ***PDFzone EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra51598.html ==================================================== The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + Frank Sinatra Tributes Go Online, Get Interactive * PDF among the media tools remembering Ol' Blue Eyes 60 years + 'The PDFzone' Emerges as Portal to the World of Portable Documents * Steady growth in discussion lists, zine, forums; more in the works + Tibet's Struggles for Autonomy Spread by His Holiness The Dalai Lama * PDF-based interview &Tibet art works gallery showcase Buddhism + May 17 - A Proud Day for Norwegians (and 'Norsk' Wanna-Be's) * Sons of Norway offers viking-sized cache of heritage info on line + Article Summary - 'PDF: Not Just for Publishing Anymore' * Andrew Young, Emerge CEO, shares his thoughts on PDF's future + If the Demons are Winning, Equip Yourself for the Final Battle * Reader-equipped can utilize PDF to become certified Ghostbusters + Recent Reader Feedback * PDFzone visitor expresses thanks for Acrobat Capture v.2.01 info ... and more. 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Past issues are available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Subscribe to the email version at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html rgds~Kurt ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 17-May-1998 2:36:18-GMT,3847;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07594 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:36:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA31676; Sat, 16 May 1998 21:12:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 16 May 1998 21:07:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA31466; Sat, 16 May 1998 21:07:12 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 22:07:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg Message-Id: <199805170207.WAA04897@nber.nber.org> To: pdf@pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] tiff to pdf image-only file Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Many thanks to the people who responded to my request for additional ways of converting tiff files to image only pdf files. I have found 4 ways and done an experimental conversion on a 31 page text-only B&W document. 1) Adobe Capture. The document produced (at 300 dpi) was 1.19 megabytes. The software is modestly expensive at $895 (list) and about .0015 per page. The chief disadvange for me is that it is interactive only, with no command line interface and no Unix support. 2) Ghostscript 5.10 includes a tiff2pdf program, for a wide variety of Unix machines. This has a a command line interface and worked easily, but the output file was 30 megabytes! 3) Image Alchemy (www.handmadesoftware.com) is a general image conversion package. It works from the command line and produced a file of about 1.5 megabytes - about 25% larger than the best conversion. It is quite inexpensive (about $200) and runs on a variety of equipment. In my original posting I asked about the variety of compression options Alchemy offers. I received no info on that point, but a little experimentation showed that G4 compression was by far the best for this document. 4) Lastly, Prime Recognition did a test with their software (which I have not examined yet personally) and generated a pdf file of 1.17 megabytes. This runs from the command line, but only on the PC and is somewhat expensive at $2,300. Speed isn't our chief concern, but the test supposedly required only 5 seconds, which seems very fast to me, compared to the other programs. Of course, I don't know what hardware they used!. (www.primerecognition.com) Image Alchemy and Prime Recognition could down-sample to 150 dpi with a reduction in file-size to 807K for Alchemy and 591K for Prime. The 150 dpi Capture pdf was also about 600K. In my original posting I asked if anyone knew the mechanism in Cpature to down-sample to 150 dpi, but none of the responses included information on that. Conclusion: Among command line programs, Image Alchemy is an excellent choice, but the output files are not the smallest. Ghostscript is not practical for image files. Prime Recognition seems like the best, but a bit expensive unless you need the least possible file size or fastest possible operation. Given that Adobe has published an API for Capture, I am quite surprised that no one has produced a command line interface for it. The 'watched directory' is hardly a substitute, and is not at all attractive to me. I have over a thousand directories, each with ~50 tiff files. I suppose I could copy them all into a single directory... but it would be wrong. The test files and output are available at ftp.nber.org/test. Daniel Feenberg NBER feenberg@nber.org ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 17-May-1998 4:00:56-GMT,2050;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09887 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 22:00:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01485; Sat, 16 May 1998 22:39:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 16 May 1998 22:35:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01329; Sat, 16 May 1998 22:35:34 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 May 98 20:35 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <199805170207.WAA04897@nber.nber.org> (feenberg@nber.nber.org) Subject: Re: [PDF] tiff to pdf image-only file Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > 2) Ghostscript 5.10 includes a tiff2pdf program, > for a wide variety of Unix machines. This has a > a command line interface and worked easily, but the > output file was 30 megabytes! You may wish to beta-test the next Ghostscript release, which will support the full range of Adobe Acrobat Distiller image compression options, including (among other things) G4 compression and downsampling. This code is fully implemented but has not been tested much. If you are interested in doing this, please e-mail me. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html * Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your e-mail and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net * ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 17-May-1998 4:01:47-GMT,2050;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09912 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 22:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01486; Sat, 16 May 1998 22:39:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 16 May 1998 22:35:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01385; Sat, 16 May 1998 22:35:45 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 May 98 20:35 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <199805170207.WAA04897@nber.nber.org> (feenberg@nber.nber.org) Subject: Re: [PDF] tiff to pdf image-only file Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > 2) Ghostscript 5.10 includes a tiff2pdf program, > for a wide variety of Unix machines. This has a > a command line interface and worked easily, but the > output file was 30 megabytes! You may wish to beta-test the next Ghostscript release, which will support the full range of Adobe Acrobat Distiller image compression options, including (among other things) G4 compression and downsampling. This code is fully implemented but has not been tested much. If you are interested in doing this, please e-mail me. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html * Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your e-mail and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net * ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 17-May-1998 5:03:03-GMT,1946;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11505 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 23:03:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03149; Sat, 16 May 1998 23:38:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 16 May 1998 23:34:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02969; Sat, 16 May 1998 23:34:36 -0500 Message-ID: <355E6975.96C9E933@document-solutions.com> Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 21:37:09 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] tiff to pdf image-only file References: <199805170207.WAA04897@nber.nber.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Daniel: Add RTS Import to your list -- very handy little app! Makes small files too. They're in .au Daniel Feenberg wrote: > Many thanks to the people who responded to my request for > additional ways of converting tiff files to image only > pdf files. I have found 4 ways and done an experimental > conversion on a 31 page text-only B&W document. -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 17-May-1998 5:39:22-GMT,1701;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12383 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 23:39:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA04231; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:19:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 17 May 1998 00:15:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04096; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:15:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199805170515.AAA04092@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for May-16-98 [V2 #221] Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 22:16:41 -0700 x-sender: rburress@mail x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Rick Burress To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rick is on Vacation (and won't be replying to email) until May 19th. Thanks for the email, I'll e-talk to you then! Rick Burress --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rick Burress Artistec Inc. "Solutions to Computer Graphics challenges through Consultation, Training & Seminars." Check out the Electronic Publishing "Tip of the day" http://members.home.net/rburress/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 17-May-1998 9:42:08-GMT,1557;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05818 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 03:42:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA10359; Sun, 17 May 1998 04:24:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 17 May 1998 04:19:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10242; Sun, 17 May 1998 04:19:53 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD8185.96A57060.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Live URLs when printing to PDF Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 11:12:24 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi folks, is there any way to print PDFs from browser window with URL links retained? I don't feel like adding them by hand in Exchange or saving HTML with all the pictures first and then running a PERL script. Any ideas? Any Netscape plugin, maybe? Jernej ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 17-May-1998 19:43:23-GMT,2240;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19614 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 13:43:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26486; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:13:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 17 May 1998 14:08:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26361; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:08:26 -0500 From: Naomiwrite Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:07:54 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PDF] Cannot search in PDF Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 regarding the following: I'm using Windows 95, working with Office 97, have installed the PDF-Maker and using the Adobe 4.2.3 Printer driver as Distiller Assistant for Adobe Acrobat 3.01 and Distiller 3.02. I have experienced the following problem: Creating a PDF with the PDF-Maker through the Distiller Assistant is working fine. Meaning I can search in my PDF. But, if I'm printing "normally" through the printing Menue using the distiller Assistant I'm not able to search the document any more. Same problem appears, when I'm printing from Excel. My response: In one of the many Adobe PDF read-me files, there is a Reported Problem of searching in PDF files. Adobe's solution is that you must use PostScript fonts. The PDF Writer does not use the same process as the "Write-to-file" used in the true Distiller process. The PDF Writer does not create a PostScript file, it creates some other kind of file. Adobe says this problem does not happen on the Mac. Hope this helps you. --Naomi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 0:44:06-GMT,3296;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26981 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 18:44:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA02794; Sun, 17 May 1998 19:21:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 17 May 1998 19:13:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02550; Sun, 17 May 1998 19:13:53 -0500 Message-ID: <355F7CFD.70FED1CA@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 20:12:45 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Cannot search in PDF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA02547 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Acrobat Distiller Assistant is a known dog. Do the print deal via the Acrobat Distiller and you should have no problem. For NT, select a good PS printer and write the file to a watched Distiller folder to generate PDF's and then do Catalog. HTH Bob Moran Naomiwrite wrote: > regarding the following: > I'm using Windows 95, working with Office 97, have installed the > PDF-Maker and using the Adobe 4.2.3 Printer driver as Distiller > Assistant for Adobe Acrobat 3.01 and Distiller 3.02. > > I have experienced the following problem: > Creating a PDF with the PDF-Maker through the Distiller Assistant is > working fine. Meaning I can search in my PDF. > But, if I'm printing "normally" through the printing Menue using the > distiller Assistant I'm not able to search the document any more. Same > problem appears, when I'm printing from Excel. > > My response: > In one of the many Adobe PDF read-me files, there is a Reported Problem of > searching in PDF files. Adobe's solution is that you must use PostScript > fonts. The PDF Writer does not use the same process as the "Write-to-file" > used in the true Distiller process. The PDF Writer does not create a > PostScript file, it creates some other kind of file. > > Adobe says this problem does not happen on the Mac. > > Hope this helps you. > > --Naomi > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 2:17:57-GMT,1693;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA28660 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:17:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA05484; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:47:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 17 May 1998 20:43:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05345; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:43:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199805180143.LAA12677@magna.com.au> X-Sender: larke@magna.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:33:52 +1000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Annette Larke Subject: Re: [PDF] Selecting Text in a 2-column PDF Document In-Reply-To: <925f8dfc.355cb19e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you hold down the Ctrl key while selecing text, you can select text in one column only. At 05:20 PM 05/15/98 -0400, you wrote: > >List Members: > >Succinctly-stated problem: >Is there a way to select only text in one column of a 2-column layout in a PDF >file? > Regards, Annette Larke Services Pty LTd Sydney, Australia URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 13:30:26-GMT,1331;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02353 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 07:30:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA25137; Mon, 18 May 1998 07:54:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 07:48:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24836; Mon, 18 May 1998 07:48:42 -0500 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256608.00466EEC.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:49:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] mail list problems??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am not experiencing any problems with receiving info from the pdf list serve ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 13:40:07-GMT,1809;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02633 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 07:40:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26955; Mon, 18 May 1998 08:24:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 08:22:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26841; Mon, 18 May 1998 08:22:26 -0500 From: "Michael L. Jewell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] data in last form field; tabbing to next page Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:22:07 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.4 Build (40) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDF list, Since data in a form field will not print until the cursor leaves that field, is there a way to 'register' data in the last field of a form, other than: 1. add a 'dummy' field to the end of every form; 2. instruct the users to back-tab (or click) out of the last field. Is there a way to go to the next page of a form by using the Tab key? I'd rather not require a mouse action. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Mike Jewell mlj3u@virginia.edu 804-982-2175 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 14:43:34-GMT,3047;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05096 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 08:43:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA29425; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:15:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 09:12:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29292; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:12:08 -0500 Message-ID: <356041A9.8D73FA34@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:11:53 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Odd Search results References: <199805142118.OAA02386@viola.net.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > Fellow PDF'ers: > > > > We've been testing our beta CD-ROM created with Adobe Acrobat > > Exchange and Catalog and were astonished to find that we got > > different search results using the exact same query, preferences > > etc. in different > > platforms. Specifically, a query of "computers AND exemptions" found > > sixteen documents in Windows 3.1, but found only ten in Windows 95. > > The indexes are identical, the .pdf files are identical, in fact one > > and the same. > > I've seen sort of the same thing here - we have the same situation: > a CD-ROM full of PDF files that is indexed by Catalog. When we search > on Unix and Windows PC's, a search for "Promina" runs just fine; when > we do the same search on Mac computers, searching for "Promina" returns > a fatal error that aborts the search. Searching for phrases that include > "Promina" as one of several words works on all platforms, though. I'm not 100% sure about the original problem, but I think the latter problem is caused by the abominable "first 64 characters of the title" bug. (I think it is 64.) If you have more than one document with the same first 64 characters, your search results will not be correct. Morepver, when this condition is present, your search results will vary by platform. On Windows 95, all but one of the documents will appear in a search results list. On Macintosh, you'll get the error "Can't retrieve the results. Sorry." I can't remember for sure how the problem is manifested in Windows 3.1. The only workaround I know for the problem, and the one Adobe suggests, is to change the title fields of the affected documents so that there are no uniqueness problems. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 14:51:41-GMT,1717;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05502 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 08:51:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA30666; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:37:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 09:35:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30529; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:35:17 -0500 From: jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENSORIUM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <86256608.0050006A.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:33:51 -0500 Subject: [PDF] PSD to PDF resolution problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have artwork created in Photo Shop 3. Resolution looks great on screen in Photo Shop (on a Mac). I export to EPS, then run Distiller on an Windows NT PC. The resukting PDF looks good on high resolution monitors, but falls apart on most monitors w/ 256 color and low resolution. Is there an generally accepted way of dealing with this problem? I have spent a lot of frustrating time trying to figure this out. Thanks- Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 15:35:20-GMT,2856;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07180 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:35:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA32149; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:09:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 10:06:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31969; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:06:49 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:59:30 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] data in last form field; tabbing to next page Cc: "Michael L. Jewell" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mike, Pressing does register the data in the current form field - at least on a Mac. Another possibility, but that would require a mouse action, and assumes that the page should be printed, is to put a PRINT ME button on the document. When the user clicks that button, the last entry field gets registered automatically. I am not quite sure what you want to do in the second part of the question. By setting the Tab Order accordingly, you will automatically get to the next page when you are in the last field of the page and press . However, if the question was how to get to the next page _without_ the key, pressing and then brings you to the next page - at least on a Mac. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _____________ >PDF list, > >Since data in a form field will not print until the cursor leaves >that field, is there a way to 'register' data in the last field of a >form, other than: >1. add a 'dummy' field to the end of every form; >2. instruct the users to back-tab (or click) out of the last field. > >Is there a way to go to the next page of a form by using the Tab key? >I'd rather not require a mouse action. > >Thanks for any suggestions. >-- >Mike Jewell mlj3u@virginia.edu 804-982-2175 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 17:04:30-GMT,2936;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10954 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03815; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:36:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 11:33:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03521; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:33:31 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980518122248.00928270@192.168.167.120> X-Sender: hsova@192.168.167.120 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:22:48 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: hsova@brii.com (Harry Sova) Subject: [PDF] Cannot get HTML forms inside PDFs to work Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greetings: Have run into a problem. We want a client to download a PDF document from website "A" on our server. Within that PDF document we wish to place a simple "Search" form. The idea is that the individual will enter a search phrase that goes out to our website "B" and does the search as if coming from a normal HTML page. We have used the forms tool in Exchange to set up the simple search. The button in DOWN mode goes out to the website page that expects HTML form data. When the user clicks on the submit button, the page indeed goes out to Website "B" page, and the search results are displayed, BUT the opened page address at the top of the browser (in my case IE 4), shows that the page has been opened in local mode in a "temporary Internet" folder. Net result is that not all icons or Java applets, and the links to take this individual to the next level DEFINATELY do NOT work! What went wrong? BTW, we double-checked that the URL has "HTTP://" with full address in tact. We do use Cold Fusion as a database front-end to our pages, but that has never been a problem before. Is Acrobat getting confused over the .cfm extension and making this a local page, rather than seeing this as a viable HTML page? If so, are there any work-arounds for this? regards Harry Sova, Ph.D. President Blue Ridge Interactive hsova@brii.com Home Page http://www.brii.com "Interactive Publishing and Electronic Commerce Through Emerging Technologies" Home of DrMag.com "The World's Magazine Rack"(tm) http://www.drmag.com Virginia Tech Corporate Research Center 1750 Kraft Drive, Suite 1200 Blacksburg, VA 24060 (540) 961-5100 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 21:42:54-GMT,3789;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21534 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 15:42:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17438; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:42:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 16:31:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17009; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:31:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:32:04 -0500 To: From: "Dave Hollenbeck" Subject: [PDF-ANC] Revision Master from Diehl Graphsoft Sender: owner-pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: "Dave Hollenbeck" X-Sender: Emerge PDFzone 800-829-2459 ======================== IMPORTANT INFO ============================ Please reply DIRECTLY to the sender, *not* to the list address Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Send questions or feedback to: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com ==================================================================== Hello, My name is David Hollenbeck and I am a marketing coordinator for Diehl Graphsoft, Inc. We have recently released a new, simple document management program for Windows 95/NT called Revision Master. It comes in handy for those who need to make frequent changes to your .pdf and other files, and I am sure that is a great number of you. Please read on, visit our website (www.diehlgraphsoft.com) or e-mail me if you have any questions. Thanks! Dave Managing Your Documents Whether you writing a book or creating a web site, Revision Master can track all of your Windows 95 or Windows NT supported files and their support files. Really, all of your files and no messy conversions. This includes .doc, .pdf, .fm, .gif, .html, and any other file that your Windows 95 or Window NT system recognizes. Revision Master is a new document management system that was designed specifically to manage documents simply and affordably. It can be used by individuals, small workgroups, or large corporations. It is very easy to use and looks and acts similar to your Windows Explorer file manager. 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Histories View detailed history reports on libraries, groups of files and individual files and export those reports to your favorite programs. 18-May-1998 23:02:40-GMT,1902;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24270 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:02:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA19304; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:31:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 17:27:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19170; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:27:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:28:22 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] On-Vacation replies - ZAPPED! 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He's a goner .... rgds ~ Kurt ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - => PDF lists: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html => PDFzone EXTRA: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars -30- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 19:46:59-GMT,2033;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17170 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:46:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11662; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:27:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 14:21:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11431; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:21:51 -0500 From: Matthew_J_Neal@sbphrd.com X-Lotus-Fromdomain: SB_PHARM_RD To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: <85256608.0069E50A.00@uksmtp01.ha.uk.sbphrd.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:21:32 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Page Orientation in PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: From: Matthew J Neal @ SB_PHARM_RD Date: 18-May-98 08:21:32 PM Subject: Page Orientation in PDF Categories: I am experiencing problems with both the PDFWriter 3.03, and the latest Adobe Post-Script Driver/Distiller Combo. The PDF Writer does not make adjustments for page layout (i.e. - portrait, or landscape), but rather prints the entire document in one orientation, ignoring section breaks in MS Word Documents. The PS Driver (5.1)/Distiller (3.03) combo has a different problem. It sets the page orientation properly, however, the code for page layout is different. I have the same problems, or variations of the problems in both Word 97 and WordPerfect 8.0. Anyone have any similar experiences? Thanks in advance. Matt SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 20:37:45-GMT,1701;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19043 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:37:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA13899; Mon, 18 May 1998 15:19:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 15:15:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13693; Mon, 18 May 1998 15:15:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199805182015.PAA13668@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for May-18-98 [V2 #222] Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:16:20 -0700 x-sender: rburress@mail x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Rick Burress To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Rick is on Vacation (and won't be replying to email) until May 19th. Thanks for the email, I'll e-talk to you then! Rick Burress --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rick Burress Artistec Inc. "Solutions to Computer Graphics challenges through Consultation, Training & Seminars." Check out the Electronic Publishing "Tip of the day" http://members.home.net/rburress/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-1998 23:56:05-GMT,2413;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26556 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:56:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA22004; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:39:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 18:36:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21870; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:36:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3560C696.DF8975A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:39:02 -0700 From: William Belk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Page Orientation in PDF References: <85256608.0069E50A.00@uksmtp01.ha.uk.sbphrd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We've encountered the same problem with FrameMaker 5.5 ==>PS==>Distiller. In the PDF, the first landscape page is properly oriented, but successive ones are portrait and truncated. We've worked around this by printing each Frame book twice and changing the page orientation from portrait to landscape within the PS Driver specifications. Then we merge the two files. Hardly satisfactory! Bill Belk Document Production Manager IT Corporation > > > I am experiencing problems with both the PDFWriter 3.03, and the latest > Adobe Post-Script Driver/Distiller Combo. > The PDF Writer does not make adjustments for page layout (i.e. - portrait, > or landscape), but rather prints the entire document in one orientation, > ignoring section breaks in MS Word Documents. > The PS Driver (5.1)/Distiller (3.03) combo has a different problem. It > sets the page orientation properly, however, the code for page layout is > different. > I have the same problems, or variations of the problems in both Word 97 and > WordPerfect 8.0. > Anyone have any similar experiences? > Thanks in advance. > Matt ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 19-May-1998 0:57:22-GMT,3264;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28585 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:57:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA23629; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:27:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 May 1998 19:21:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23411; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:21:19 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: William Belk , "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: Re: [PDF] Page Orientation in PDF Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:20:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yes - I've had this happen, too. I noticed on the FM side that the particular LS master page we had, when applied, produced a message saying that objects on Body pages were overlapping. Though I couldn't see that this was happening, I faithfully tweaked the Master page and applied it until I no longer received that message. Then, the PDF file did not truncate the LS page. A red herring? perhaps... rebecca ---------- From: William Belk To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Page Orientation in PDF Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 4:39PM We've encountered the same problem with FrameMaker 5.5 ==>PS==>Distiller. In the PDF, the first landscape page is properly oriented, but successive ones are portrait and truncated. We've worked around this by printing each Frame book twice and changing the page orientation from portrait to landscape within the PS Driver specifications. Then we merge the two files. Hardly satisfactory! Bill Belk Document Production Manager IT Corporation > > > I am experiencing problems with both the PDFWriter 3.03, and the latest > Adobe Post-Script Driver/Distiller Combo. > The PDF Writer does not make adjustments for page layout (i.e. - portrait, > or landscape), but rather prints the entire document in one orientation, > ignoring section breaks in MS Word Documents. > The PS Driver (5.1)/Distiller (3.03) combo has a different problem. It > sets the page orientation properly, however, the code for page layout is > different. > I have the same problems, or variations of the problems in both Word 97 and > WordPerfect 8.0. > Anyone have any similar experiences? > Thanks in advance. > Matt ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 19-May-1998 14:45:05-GMT,1856;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07221 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 08:45:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19424; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:18:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 09:13:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19144; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:13:06 -0500 Message-ID: <356185B6.B71BEA6@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 00:14:32 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] embeddng URLS via Distiller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sorry in advance for this, as I asked this same question myself about 2 months ago and so did someone else, I just I just can't find the damm answers in my archive! I have a couple hundred MS Word files on the PC in Offce 97. They contain URLS and email addresses which Word converts to live links. Question is.....how to maintain the links through Distiller? I have PC and MAC versions of Exchange 3.01 if it makes a difference. TIA (Again!) Dean Laffan Real World Productions ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 19-May-1998 15:20:53-GMT,2604;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08736 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:20:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA21324; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:50:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 09:46:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21098; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:46:12 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980519094517.006a2664@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:45:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] Reader Viewing problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDF-L Tech helpers- I have a user running a Win95: P-I, 166, 32M that is having display problems. This display error occurs with both the Acrobat 3.0 and 3.01 readers. The PDF file(s) in question have been scanned using Capture (image+text) and the practice we use is pretty standard for all of our scanned PDF files. Here is the problem: User opens the scanned PDF file and the entire screen is blank, like a blank sheet of paper. The user can choose print and get good printed results; the user can use the [abc] text selection tool and select all of the text. It is almost like the text is of a white color. I have had the user unistall the reader 3.0, run scan disk, delete windows tmp files, defrag, restart, reinstall the new 3.01 reader and no luck. I am thinking that there may be some conflict with Windows and the reader? I am blanking on this one - Help please! FYI, along with may others, we have opened up all scanned PDF files and have had no problems similar to this one; this seems like a problem with the users PC not the file. Thanks! Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS ph: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 check us out -- 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.omnipress.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 19-May-1998 17:05:57-GMT,1935;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12285 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:05:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA27022; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:43:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 11:40:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26841; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:40:28 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SYBEX From: "Molly Sharp" To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com cc: "Liz Paulus" Message-ID: <88256609.00599C02.00@sybex.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:32:04 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Extract Text out of PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm trying to get text out of PDF files as an alternative to getting text out of QuarkXPress, which is messy. I'd be happy with RTF or ASCII, as long as it's clean. I've tried evaluation copies of RedWing and Aerial's Save as RTF. Both products insert returns at the end of each line. I'm aware that that's because Acrobat only recognizes one line of text at a time, but is there a product out there that will extract text without line breaks where you don't want them? In other words, I want returns only at the end of paragraphs, not at the end of each line. Deleting the extra returns isn't fun, and search & replace isn't a clean solution either. Thanks, Molly ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 19-May-1998 17:59:46-GMT,2652;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13721 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:59:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA29683; Tue, 19 May 1998 12:38:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 12:35:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29550; Tue, 19 May 1998 12:35:48 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Extract Text out of PDF Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 18:29:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bd834c$56abe160$6af582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <88256609.00599C02.00@sybex.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have to say that using QuarkXPress is likely to be a more reliable solution. XPress knows far more about the text structure in the document that ever gets into a PDF file. Aandi > > I'm trying to get text out of PDF files as an alternative to > getting text > out of QuarkXPress, which is messy. I'd be happy with RTF or > ASCII, as long > as it's clean. I've tried evaluation copies of RedWing and > Aerial's Save as > RTF. Both products insert returns at the end of each line. > I'm aware that > that's because Acrobat only recognizes one line of text at a > time, but is > there a product out there that will extract text without line > breaks where > you don't want them? In other words, I want returns only at the end of > paragraphs, not at the end of each line. > > Deleting the extra returns isn't fun, and search & replace > isn't a clean > solution either. > > Thanks, > Molly > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 19-May-1998 18:42:23-GMT,1777;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14995 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 12:42:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA31649; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:23:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 13:20:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31479; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:20:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:18:44 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Charles Cranney Subject: [PDF] Can't search words/search & serve on web Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I had somebody give me a word (for Windows) printed file that I distilled. When I try to search on it, it doesn't see any of the words. The same is true when I catalog it. It looks good on the screen. Somebody told me I had "jumbled" fonts. How do I correct the problem? Also, is there a way to set up a web server (we have Webstar 3.0) to search and serve up only the PDF pages that have the search hit on it? (I think I've heard this called byte serving.) Is it possible to do this over the web with the Reader + Search? --Charles Cranney ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 19-May-1998 21:43:31-GMT,2777;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19474 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:43:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07711; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:22:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 16:15:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07448; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:15:38 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256609.00740EEC.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:12:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Extract Text out of PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Forte, a product by BCL allows you to do this. But, I think that RedWing offers a couple of ways to paste text, with paragraph marks and without. Forte is cheaper than RedWing, but only works on a single selection of text at a time. RedWing allows you to mark different sections and export all marked sections at one time. SueG "Molly Sharp" on 05/19/98 09:32:04 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.emrg.com, pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com cc: "Liz Paulus" (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Extract Text out of PDF I'm trying to get text out of PDF files as an alternative to getting text out of QuarkXPress, which is messy. I'd be happy with RTF or ASCII, as long as it's clean. I've tried evaluation copies of RedWing and Aerial's Save as RTF. Both products insert returns at the end of each line. I'm aware that that's because Acrobat only recognizes one line of text at a time, but is there a product out there that will extract text without line breaks where you don't want them? In other words, I want returns only at the end of paragraphs, not at the end of each line. Deleting the extra returns isn't fun, and search & replace isn't a clean solution either. Thanks, Molly ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 19-May-1998 22:33:28-GMT,2027;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20697 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:33:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA09745; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:09:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 17:05:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09590; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:05:17 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] embeddng URLS via Distiller Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 23:04:40 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd8372$1f4a10e0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <356185B6.B71BEA6@realworld.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I have a couple hundred MS Word files on the PC in Offce 97. They > contain URLS and email addresses which Word converts to live links. You could try our Local Render product. Eval software available from our web site: www.docctrl.com Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 19-May-1998 23:35:58-GMT,2611;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22047 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:35:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA12023; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:13:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 18:08:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11866; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:08:55 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Distiller function in Windows File View Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:08:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi - First - here's the setup: Windows 95, FM 5.5.x, Compaq Deskpro 200 Owing to hardware problems or plain bad luck, we've had five of these type workstations go belly up in Windows, resulting in "Safe Mode" only booting. To restore windows, the Windows directories are "blown away" and Windows reinstalled. Of course, these wreaks havoc on the Start menu, file associations, and gosh knows what else. Well, one of the "what elses" appears to be affecting Distiller. Used to be that if you had Distiller open, you could minimize it and then by going to any file listing (e.g. Explorer), find the *.ps file you wanted to distill and double click it. Then we would get the *.PDF and the LOG file for each file double clicked, all files remaining in the same directory. That's what's not working anymore. Now you double click and instead of Distiller taking control, absolutely nothing happens If we go ahead and Find the file thru Distiller's File/Open menu, that works fine. But that can be really annoying, as Distiller seems to have its own mind about choosing the Target directory for the PDF, requiring a lot of mouse clicks to put the file where YOU want it. Is there anything we could check to set Distiller back to operating on a double-clicked post script file? Thanks thanks thanks - Rebecca ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 19-May-1998 23:44:23-GMT,3530;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22247 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:44:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA12475; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:27:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 18:23:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12357; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:23:23 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980519162737.007da5c0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:27:37 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller function in Windows File View In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It sounds like this is a problem with file associations. Here's a couple of fixes: 1. Go into Explorer and choose View/Options (or something like that depending on whether or not you have IE4 installed). Find the distiller in the file types and verify that they are associated with distiller. 2. Reinstall distiller. 3. Drag the files from Explorer to distiller and the resulting PDFs will be placed in the same directory as the PDFs. At 04:08 PM 5/19/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi - > >First - here's the setup: Windows 95, FM 5.5.x, Compaq Deskpro 200 > >Owing to hardware problems or plain bad luck, we've had five of these >type workstations go belly up in Windows, resulting in "Safe Mode" only >booting. To restore windows, the Windows directories are "blown away" >and Windows reinstalled. > >Of course, these wreaks havoc on the Start menu, file associations, and >gosh knows what else. > >Well, one of the "what elses" appears to be affecting Distiller. Used >to be that if you had Distiller open, you could minimize it and then by >going to any file listing (e.g. Explorer), find the *.ps file you wanted >to distill and double click it. Then we would get the *.PDF and the LOG >file for each file double clicked, all files remaining in the same >directory. >That's what's not working anymore. Now you double click and instead of >Distiller taking control, absolutely nothing happens > >If we go ahead and Find the file thru Distiller's File/Open menu, that >works fine. But that can be really annoying, as Distiller seems to have >its own mind about choosing the Target directory for the PDF, requiring >a lot of mouse clicks to put the file where YOU want it. > >Is there anything we could check to set Distiller back to operating on a >double-clicked post script file? > >Thanks thanks thanks - > >Rebecca >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 0:15:38-GMT,3760;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22871 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:15:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13206; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:46:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 18:43:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13049; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:43:08 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980519234303.00d7edc4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:43:03 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller function in Windows File View Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you only "reinstall Windows", you'll be wasting your time with more than just Distiller. Unless you happen to have a current backup of the Windows Registry, plus backups of the various INI files for your apps, the ONLY way to get your applications working again as intended is to reinstall them. Trying to hack all of the dozens of file associations for Open, Print, OLE, etc. buried in the Registry is a total waste of time, since you're bound to miss something and then spend your life writing "help" notes like this one. Reinstalling the entire Acrobat 3 product set from CD-ROM only takes a few minutes. In other words, don't fight the inevitable; just reinstall ALL of your apps (and be sure to document all of your customized Preference settings for the next time!) Tom Thiersch At 04:08 PM 5/19/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi - > >First - here's the setup: Windows 95, FM 5.5.x, Compaq Deskpro 200 > >Owing to hardware problems or plain bad luck, we've had five of these >type workstations go belly up in Windows, resulting in "Safe Mode" only >booting. To restore windows, the Windows directories are "blown away" >and Windows reinstalled. > >Of course, these wreaks havoc on the Start menu, file associations, and >gosh knows what else. > >Well, one of the "what elses" appears to be affecting Distiller. Used >to be that if you had Distiller open, you could minimize it and then by >going to any file listing (e.g. Explorer), find the *.ps file you wanted >to distill and double click it. Then we would get the *.PDF and the LOG >file for each file double clicked, all files remaining in the same >directory. >That's what's not working anymore. Now you double click and instead of >Distiller taking control, absolutely nothing happens > >If we go ahead and Find the file thru Distiller's File/Open menu, that >works fine. But that can be really annoying, as Distiller seems to have >its own mind about choosing the Target directory for the PDF, requiring >a lot of mouse clicks to put the file where YOU want it. > >Is there anything we could check to set Distiller back to operating on a >double-clicked post script file? > >Thanks thanks thanks - > >Rebecca >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 2:21:57-GMT,1512;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25382 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:21:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA18161; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:54:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 20:48:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17821; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:48:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:49:20 -0500 To: From: "Patrice Spath" Subject: [PDF] Printing reader documents Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have an HP Laser 4 and have never been able to configure it right to print documents from a PDF file (I use Reader). I've followed all the technical support tips on the Adobe web page, but nothing works. Any ideas?? Oh yes, I've reloaded the Reader files twice but didn't help. Patrice Spath ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 4:19:54-GMT,2013;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA27710 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:19:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA23499; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:35:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 May 1998 22:30:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23185; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:30:46 -0500 Message-ID: <35624F35.9C9048D4@ionet.net> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:34:13 -0500 From: Richard Durrer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing reader documents References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Have you checked HP's website to make sure you have the latest up to date printer drivers? Patrice Spath wrote: > I have an HP Laser 4 and have never been able to configure it right to > print documents from a PDF file (I use Reader). I've followed all the > technical support tips on the Adobe web page, but nothing works. Any > ideas?? Oh yes, I've reloaded the Reader files twice but didn't help. > > Patrice Spath > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 7:51:01-GMT,2097;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18943 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 01:51:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA01262; Wed, 20 May 1998 02:25:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 02:21:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01054; Wed, 20 May 1998 02:21:28 -0500 Message-ID: <356276E3.20589481@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:23:33 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Errors in Reader Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi everyone, A friend is having trouble openng a PDF which is the technical user manual for Go Live Cyber Studio. He is using OS 8.1 on a G3 laptop and gets the following errors after the file opens: Expected 'El' while parsing an Image Unrecognised token 'W1' Too few operands The file opens, but doesn't display any text, ie. the page is all white. We downloaded and re-installed the current Reader+Search, still the same. However when I copy the file to my machine, Power Tower Pro 180e, OS 8.0, same Reader and Exchange... the file is fine. So the problem seems to be a conflict on his machine. Before he starts labouriously checking for conflicts, does anyone know these errrors? TIA Dean Laffan Real Worldd Productions ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 10:09:58-GMT,1995;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23497 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:09:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA07073; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:46:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 04:42:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06867; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:42:28 -0500 Message-ID: <356297EF.F695503D@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:44:33 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Weirdness in Reader Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all, I am experiencing a reclacitrant pdf file between Reader and Exchange, it goes like this: Print an 11 page text file from MS Word, Office 97, PC using the Apple Laserwrter II, > distill. It opens from another PDF via the "Form Tool" "open file..." in Exchange. I have set the Page Open to be "Open wth Bookmarks" (Yes I have created bookmarks) but when it opens it refuses to recognise the settngs and displays with the page surrounded by white. When I click the icon in the Reader or Exchange menu bar to view with Bookmarks it gives them to me. Am I missing something? TIA Dean Laffan Real World Productins ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 10:11:15-GMT,3044;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23526 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:11:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA07624; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:56:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 04:52:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07352; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:52:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller function in Windows File View Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:50:56 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01bd83d4$ea1fcd20$6af582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > First - here's the setup: Windows 95, FM 5.5.x, Compaq Deskpro 200 > > Owing to hardware problems or plain bad luck, we've had five of these > type workstations go belly up in Windows, resulting in "Safe > Mode" only > booting. To restore windows, the Windows directories are "blown away" > and Windows reinstalled. > > Of course, these wreaks havoc on the Start menu, file > associations, and > gosh knows what else. > > Well, one of the "what elses" appears to be affecting Distiller. Used > to be that if you had Distiller open, you could minimize it > and then by > going to any file listing (e.g. Explorer), find the *.ps file > you wanted > to distill and double click it. Then we would get the *.PDF > and the LOG > file for each file double clicked, all files remaining in the same > directory. > That's what's not working anymore. Now you double click and instead of > Distiller taking control, absolutely nothing happens > > If we go ahead and Find the file thru Distiller's File/Open menu, that > works fine. But that can be really annoying, as Distiller > seems to have > its own mind about choosing the Target directory for the PDF, > requiring > a lot of mouse clicks to put the file where YOU want it. > > Is there anything we could check to set Distiller back to > operating on a > double-clicked post script file? > It sounds as though you have destroyed the Windows registry. When you do this you must reinstall all your Windows applications - so far as I can see you haven't done that. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 10:12:35-GMT,2224;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23564 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:12:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA07623; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:56:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 04:52:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07372; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:52:56 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing reader documents Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:52:32 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01bd83d4$eb911060$6af582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tip: tell us what actually happens when you try, and what steps you have followed. Also, whether you've fetched the latest driver from hp's web site. Aandi > > > > I have an HP Laser 4 and have never been able to configure it right to > print documents from a PDF file (I use Reader). I've followed all the > technical support tips on the Adobe web page, but nothing works. Any > ideas?? Oh yes, I've reloaded the Reader files twice but didn't help. > > Patrice Spath > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 10:45:04-GMT,2179;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24392 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:45:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA08272; Wed, 20 May 1998 05:10:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 05:06:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08045; Wed, 20 May 1998 05:06:50 -0500 Message-ID: <35629DA5.FFE6083A@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:08:56 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] More weirdness Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 And the hit's keep comin'.... Further to my previous post. I'm in Exchange 3.0 PC Now when I exit the pdf (the same one referred to earlier which refuses to open as I want) and re-open the previous menu, the file opens but about 1 sec later I get an Acrobat error message saying "Bad Parameter" I can OK that away, but then the screen refuses to draw up the links. I can move the mouse, but none of the four links show up as rollovers. I am runnng n fill screen mode and if I "esc" to pull me back to the toolbar, the screen goes mostly black with just the a thin strip of graphic at the left and bottom of the screen. The only way out is to close the file and re-open, where it appears ok until we start the whole process again. Things that make you go Hmmm... Thanks again Dean Laffan Real World Productions ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 12:28:01-GMT,2476;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26970 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 06:28:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA13207; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:07:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 07:02:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12949; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:02:15 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Can't search words/search & serve on web Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:27:21 +0100 Message-ID: <001e01bd83e6$eb218080$6af582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > I had somebody give me a word (for Windows) printed file that I > distilled. When I try to search on it, it doesn't see any of > the words. > The same is true when I catalog it. It looks good on the screen. > Somebody told me I had "jumbled" fonts. How do I correct the problem? Use PDFWriter instead of Distiller; or use Type 1 (ATM) fonts. > > Also, is there a way to set up a web server (we have Webstar 3.0) to > search and serve up only the PDF pages that have the search hit on it? > (I think I've heard this called byte serving.) Is it possible > to do this > over the web with the Reader + Search? Byteserving is something different; it is the mechanism used to deliver PDF documents a page-at-a-time instead of having to download the whole file. You cannot use Reader + Search over a web link. You must have searching technology installed on the web server. Verity make one such solution. There are others described on Adobe's web site (Acrobat, resources, webmaster links). > Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 12:42:10-GMT,2974;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27399 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 06:42:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA14184; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:30:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 07:26:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13938; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:26:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3562CE4F.B895D235@lsijax.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:36:31 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Graphic Overlays???? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I'm having a strange (at least to me) problem. We've converted some Interleaf documents to PDF (wrote to postscript and then distilled) and are having some graphics display goofy. These graphics were originally created in layers - some show up okay in the PDF and some only show part of one layer (not all or none). I find if I take off the preference for 'smooth text & graphics' then all the layers show and the graphics looks like it should - however, the text then looks like garbage. Since I can toggle this preference on and off and see the affect directly on the graphic in the PDF - I know that the graphic must have distilled properly - this is only a display/viewer issue. These graphics are greyscale (not color) and generally it's the grey shading that partially missing (but that could be because it's the lowest layer). When 'smoothing' is on and some of the layer is missing, I can zoom-in close and then the layer appears. It prints properly - regardless. Does anyone have any clues as to how I can get the graphics to display properly without unchecking the 'smoothing' preference? I have tried different distiller options with no luck (however, since I know that the full graphic is there I didn't think this would work). I'm running on a Windows NT machine, 2 GB free hard drive space, Exchange 3.01 and 64 MB RAM. Is this a Adobe viewer bug?? Thanks, Tracie +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 13:25:38-GMT,4671;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28887 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:25:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA15151; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:52:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 07:49:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15000; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:49:39 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E052260@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Exchange Lite Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:46:15 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Good morning all, As plug-in developers and pdf consultants we often come across the same problem with our clients. That is, the majority of solutions that we propose require Acrobat Exchange as opposed to Acrobat Reader. Fine, you may think, excepting that the clients simply will *not* go ahead due to the prohibitive cost of Exchange. This is *not* positive for both us and Adobe, and for this reason I am interested to start a thread [that will be 'overheard'] about an Exchange Lite product to overcome this. I am *sure* that others will have experienced the same scenario. Obviously a company cannot afford to give away a product for nothing [that is unless it is a browser, in which case they'll give the source code as well ]. However, the full Acrobat product costs in the order of $300. [Yes, if you purchase in bulk you do receive a discount, and I know it is possible to purchase Exchange as a stand alone (for about $35 per copy if you buy 100).] This is often many more copies of Exchange than required and not feasible [at least in the eyes of our client's management]. Many of the features of Exchange [never mind Acrobat] are *not* required by your average desktop users. We at RTS, propose an 'unbundling' of Exchange from the Acrobat suite. That is, recognition should be given to the users who are situated between the read-only users [Reader] and the power users [authors - distiller, pdfwriter] of PDFs. Also, * That Exchange is marketed as a stand alone product (more vigorously than it is at present) as well as in the Acrobat Suite. * That the pricing for this product is relatively low. Acrobat Exchange should attempt to replace the Reader [in a considerable number of cases]. >From a developers point of view, it is very difficult to persuade people to buy Acrobat Exchange at its present price. Whilst you have discounted site licenses there are many individual users who find it difficult to justify the cost. One of the main reasons for difficulty in cost justification, is that Acrobat Exchange has a strong competitor, yes, Acrobat Reader. To the uninformed, it appears to be the same product, people are reluctant to pay large sums of money for something they believe they already have [hence the large number of requests for Reader automation]. To facilitate this and perhaps further stratify the market, features could be removed from Exchange to lower the cost [this makes the product more accessible to users who would have otherwise gone without - we do *not* propose that it makes it cheaper to develop]. This approach is consistent with avoiding the selling of 'bloatware'. Users are confused by, and do not/should not need to pay for software they will never use. Users should be able to purchase only the functionality they need at a pro-rata cost. Of course this process would take time and effort on Adobe's part - plus has the potential to add confusion to the marketplace [in that people will not know which product to choose]. Thoughts, and comments please ... n.b. We have seen the new Reader and PDFWriter combination for $29.95, this is a step in the right direction [see http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html] for details if you didn't already know. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - Are you an AcroBuddy yet? http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm http://www.roundtable.com.au ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 13:58:19-GMT,1895;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29967 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:58:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17068; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:32:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 08:28:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16744; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:28:20 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 09:28:16 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Exchange Lite To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691ACF@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> I am interested to start a thread [that will be 'overheard'] about an exchange Lite product to overcome this. I agree with Karl's idea! The question what stays and what goes. I for one would like the Note capabilities available and the ability to accept various plug-ins. They could remove all of the authoring tools. But it has to available, unlike the Reader CD. Yes you can purchase 100 for $150.00 but you can not purchase 3,000 or 6,000 CDs, at least according to Adobe when I tried. I was told to use the one I have as master and take it to CD maker and have it reproduced. So that is the plan. Jim watson@battelle.org ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 14:01:05-GMT,3942;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00021 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:01:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA18040; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:47:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 08:44:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17712; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:44:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] More weirdness Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 06:46:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dean, To address your first post, I have found that using "Go to View" seems to work better than "Open File", when opening another PDF, but to do that you would have to use the link tool instead of the form tool. If you are using the form tool to place an icon, then you may want to consider placing the icon within the original application and then using the link tool to access another pdf file with "Go to View". Otherwise you could use the form tool to place the icon and then place a link on top of the form field, although this is a bit clumsy. The next thing you want to check is in the destination pdf, select File->Document Info->Open and set the Initial View to Bookmarks and Page, this should assure the pdf as opening with bookmarks. The problem you describe in this post sounds a lot like some of the problems I encountered when I used to use a lot of form fields, especially as navigation icons. I corrected a lot of my problems by including the icons in the source document and used the link tool to navigate. You probably will want to upgrade to Exchange 3.01, you will find that it seems to handle form fields more efficiently. One other issue, make sure that you have sufficient system resources, I would think that 32 meg of ram would be enough. I hope this helps. Randy Johnston -----Original Message----- From: Dean Laffan [mailto:email@realworld.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 2:09 AM To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] More weirdness And the hit's keep comin'.... Further to my previous post. I'm in Exchange 3.0 PC Now when I exit the pdf (the same one referred to earlier which refuses to open as I want) and re-open the previous menu, the file opens but about 1 sec later I get an Acrobat error message saying "Bad Parameter" I can OK that away, but then the screen refuses to draw up the links. I can move the mouse, but none of the four links show up as rollovers. I am runnng n fill screen mode and if I "esc" to pull me back to the toolbar, the screen goes mostly black with just the a thin strip of graphic at the left and bottom of the screen. The only way out is to close the file and re-open, where it appears ok until we start the whole process again. Things that make you go Hmmm... Thanks again Dean Laffan Real World Productions ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 14:01:32-GMT,2131;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00036 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:01:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA18043; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:48:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 08:44:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17768; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:44:29 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980520064846.007d1cf0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 06:48:46 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: RE: [PDF] Exchange Lite In-Reply-To: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691ACF@ns-bco-mse7.im.batt elle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would also like to see this, mainly for the IAC functionality that Exhange has that Reader doesn't. We currently use a plug-in to enable our context-sensitve Online Help with Reader and Exchange Lite would eliminate this because we could use IAC, instead of the plug-in and DDE. I would also like to see the Notes functionality stay, but get rid of the authoring components. --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- At 09:28 AM 5/20/98 -0400, you wrote: > > >> I am interested to start a thread [that will be 'overheard'] >about an exchange Lite product to overcome this. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 14:13:36-GMT,1950;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00491 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:13:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA18942; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:00:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 08:56:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18551; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:56:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 09:55:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Murphy To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] duplex? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 can you print out a pdf in duplex mode? I have tried on some of our QMS printers without any luck. my env == solaris 2.x (in case that makes a difference) Cheers Biff /* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- American Institute of Physics BiffSocko biff@aip.org (Tom Murphy) biffsocko@mindspring.com 1.516.576.2329 tmurphy@aip.org http://www.aip.org rwraith@imag.lamers.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- */ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 14:40:31-GMT,2390;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01490 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:40:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19853; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:15:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 09:12:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19665; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:12:32 -0500 Message-ID: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073E6DCE3@exchptc1.switch.com> From: "Huston, Virgil H." To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] duplex? Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:12:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You can as long as you have a printer that is capable and the proper drivers. I do it all the time. Virgil > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Murphy [SMTP:tmurphy@aip.org] > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 9:55 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] duplex? > > > can you print out a pdf in duplex mode? > I have tried on some of our QMS printers without any luck. my env == > solaris 2.x (in case that makes a difference) > > Cheers > Biff > > /* > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > American Institute of Physics > BiffSocko > biff@aip.org > (Tom Murphy) > biffsocko@mindspring.com > 1.516.576.2329 > tmurphy@aip.org > http://www.aip.org > rwraith@imag.lamers.org > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > */ > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 14:59:09-GMT,5428;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02167 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:59:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA21536; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:43:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 09:41:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21420; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:41:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3562EBEE.1455@pre-print.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:42:55 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Graphic Overlays???? References: <3562CE4F.B895D235@lsijax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Good morning Tracie. It's been many moons since I used Interleaf; so long I can't even remember how it looks, so my comment will be specifically directed to the EPS and PDF files. In my experience, PDF doesn't use layers. It's also been my experience that layered PostScript, which is your intermediate stage, can face problems during parsing, which is what Distiller is doing. If I were dealing with those files (by which I'm saying, this is a bit of an idiosyncratic approach, I would do one or all of the following: 1) Save As from the original Interleaf document to a new one, and flatten the layers, or copy all of the elements and paste on to a single layer. You won't be using the layers in PDF, and you've kept the original, so this won't affect your ability to edit the images at a later date. Try Distilling the flattened documents. 2) If you can at all render the fonts as outlines in Interleaf, try that as well. At that point you're not having to render typefaces in Distiller, so "smoothing" should not be necessary. If Interleaf cannot do this, I would try opening the documents in Illustrator, FreeHand or Corel and outlining the fonts there. If you have a large number of documents, this will get a bit unweildy, but I warned you this was an idiosyncratic approach. 3) If option 2) is unavailable, instead of "smoothing text and graphics", I would want to know if there an option in Interleaf for including all typefaces as part of the original PostScript output. It makes for larger files, but all of the character shape information should then be available to Distiller. 4) You also haven't mentioned whether Interleaf gives you the choice between ASCII and Binary, or PostScript levels 1 or 2. These can also affect how a PostScript file is written, and therefore how Distiller will handle the document. Good luck. Tracie K. DeVoe wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm having a strange (at least to me) problem. We've > converted some Interleaf documents to PDF (wrote to postscript > and then distilled) and are having some graphics display goofy. > These graphics were originally created in layers - some show up > okay in the PDF and some only show part of one layer (not all or > none). I find if I take off the preference for 'smooth text & > graphics' then all the layers show and the graphics looks like it > should - however, the text then looks like garbage. Since I can > toggle this preference on and off and see the affect directly on > the graphic in the PDF - I know that the graphic must have > distilled properly - this is only a display/viewer issue. These > graphics are greyscale (not color) and generally it's the grey > shading that partially missing (but that could be because it's > the lowest layer). When 'smoothing' is on and some of the layer > is missing, I can zoom-in close and then the layer appears. It > prints properly - regardless. > > Does anyone have any clues as to how I can get the graphics to > display properly without unchecking the 'smoothing' preference? > I have tried different distiller options with no luck (however, > since I know that the full graphic is there I didn't think this > would work). I'm running on a Windows NT machine, 2 GB free hard > drive space, Exchange 3.01 and 64 MB RAM. > > Is this a Adobe viewer bug?? > > Thanks, > > Tracie > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Tracie DeVoe > Logistic Services International > 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 > Elizabeth City, NC 27909 > > PH#: (252) 335-6239 > FAX: (252) 335-6463 > email: tdevoe@lsijax.com > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. 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Lazzaro" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] duplex? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------44EC1FD58FE9D2DB240D7CEF" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------44EC1FD58FE9D2DB240D7CEF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using the control panel on the printer........set it up to duplex. any job that is printed on it will be duplex. Tom Murphy wrote: > can you print out a pdf in duplex mode? > I have tried on some of our QMS printers without any luck. my env == > solaris 2.x (in case that makes a difference) > > Cheers > Biff > > /* > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > American Institute of Physics > BiffSocko > biff@aip.org > (Tom Murphy) > biffsocko@mindspring.com > 1.516.576.2329 > tmurphy@aip.org > http://www.aip.org > rwraith@imag.lamers.org > ----------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > */ > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- --------------44EC1FD58FE9D2DB240D7CEF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen T. 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Lazzaro email;internet: stlazza@cooper-energy-services.com x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE end: vcard --------------44EC1FD58FE9D2DB240D7CEF-- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 15:20:46-GMT,2573;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02933 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:20:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA22216; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:54:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 09:51:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21946; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:51:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exchange Lite Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:52:34 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1316468142-144067754@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Karl De Abrew (karl@roundtable.com.au) wrote on 5/20/98 5:46 AM: >We at RTS, propose an 'unbundling' of Exchange from the Acrobat suite. >That is, recognition should be given to the users who are situated >between the read-only users [Reader] and the power users [authors - >distiller, pdfwriter] of PDFs. Also, >* That Exchange is marketed as a stand alone product (more vigorously >than it is at present) as well as in the Acrobat Suite. >* That the pricing for this product is relatively low. Acrobat Exchange >should attempt to replace the Reader [in a considerable number of >cases]. Yes indeed! I am in a similar boat, having about 150 subscribers to a program which distributes PDF files that require Exchange on the other end. It's been a bear getting people to buy the Acrobat suite. I posted a similar question a couple weeks ago and got a couple replies from VARs. But as yet, none have gotten back to me with specific volume pricing for Exchange alone. I guess none are that hot on the idea. Maybe Adobe will make it a shrink-wrapped product if the VARs are not making a big enough effort to fill the need. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 15:42:31-GMT,1867;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03675 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:42:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA25523; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:27:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 10:24:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25101; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:24:57 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] duplex? Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:42:44 +0100 Message-ID: <002501bd8403$4bc34a60$6af582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In Windows, I'd expect that selecting Duplex for a printer which supports Duplex would work. In Unix there is the rather strange idea that PostScript is generic, so no device-dependent instructions make their way into PostScript files. > can you print out a pdf in duplex mode? > I have tried on some of our QMS printers without any luck. my env == > solaris 2.x (in case that makes a difference) Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 15:55:27-GMT,2453;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04105 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:55:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA25663; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:28:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 10:26:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25350; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:26:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3562F61E.A41E3C1A@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 11:26:22 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] duplex? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom Murphy wrote: > > can you print out a pdf in duplex mode? > I have tried on some of our QMS printers without any luck. my env == > solaris 2.x (in case that makes a difference) As a user of Solaris 2 myself, I doubt you're likely to find "drivers" (*giggle*). Here's a place you might start, although I haven't tried it myself. What the driver or PPD essentially does is to somehow get the code << /Duplex true >> setpagedevice into the PostScript prologue [see the PostScript Language Reference Manual, Second Edition, Section 4.11, "Device Setup"]. Print from a Windows driver or something to confirm that. Yeah, you could hack that into the PostScript output of Reader. But to get really fancy, you could embed it as pass-through PostScript code in your *source* PostScript file (pre-Distillation) using the /PS pdfmark [pdfmark Reference Manual, p. 16]. Then you would have a PDF file that "likes to print duplexed whenever possible". This hacky-but-legitimate methodology should even be fine on a level 2 PostScript printer without duplexing capabilities. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 16:36:07-GMT,1819;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05457 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:36:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28350; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:09:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 11:05:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28133; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:05:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199805201605.RAA09619@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> From: "Peter Mathews" To: Subject: [PDF] Exchange "Lite" Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:08:51 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Following Karl's posting, we have been active supporters of this technology requirement for the past four years. There are three routes currently available as we understand it: Acrobat in-a-box, and its VPP equivalent Acrobat Publishers Kit (Exchange w/o PDF Writer), 100 off Acrobat Tier One integrator ($50,000 to sign up) Are their any other products milling out around there that we don't know about? (I hadn't heard of Reader with PDF Writer for example). Regards from sunny UK. Peter Mathews ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 16:39:10-GMT,1393;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05547 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:39:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28066; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:04:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 11:00:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27791; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:00:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199805201559.RAA00581@zahra.easynet.it> Subject: [PDF] Exchange plug-in Date: Wed, 20 May 98 17:59:56 +0100 x-sender: public@easy1.easynet.it x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Milko Schiopetto To: "Acrobat PDF" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello. I want to know if exist a plug-in or a method to change all lower case letter of bookmark in upper-case letter. Thank you very much. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 16:56:42-GMT,1725;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06212 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:56:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29955; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:41:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 11:38:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29831; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:38:30 -0500 From: jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENSORIUM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8625660A.005B3985.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 11:36:57 -0500 Subject: [PDF] PhotoShop 3 to PDF resolution problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have artwork created in Photo Shop 3. Resolution looks great on screen in Photo Shop (on a Mac). I export to EPS, then run Distiller on an Windows NT PC. The resukting PDF looks good on high resolution monitors, but falls apart on most monitors w/ 256 color and low resolution. Is there an generally accepted way of dealing with this problem? I have spent a lot of frustrating time trying to figure this out. Thanks- Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 17:20:02-GMT,1641;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07184 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:20:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA31188; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:00:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 11:58:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30995; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:58:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805201658.MAA10452@snel.execulink.com> X-Sender: mstowe@execulink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mstowe@execulink.com (Marg Stowe) Subject: [PDF] pdf from Quark prints blank Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a pdf file created by a professional graphics house on Quark using distiller 3.01. The file displays perfectly on my screen (reader 3.01 on a PC computer) but prints out totally blank. It even prints blank on my associates computer from Quark on a Mac. Anyone know the reason for this? Thanks, Marg Marg Stowe mstowe@execulink.com http://www.execulink.com/~mstowe ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 17:21:23-GMT,4383;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07231 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:21:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA30560; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:49:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 11:47:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30414; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:47:09 -0500 Message-ID: <35630B4E.7BDA7147@lsijax.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:56:46 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com CC: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Graphic Overlays??? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Gunnar and thanks for the response, I'll see about 'flattening' the graphics. Of your suggestions (very good ones by the way), this is the only one open to me. The fonts we are using are apparently special to Interleaf and although Postscript Level 1 fonts, we had to get Interleaf to send us a patch to generate the postscript properly to embed the fonts (before the patch, postscript/distiller said the fonts were fully embedded but distiller wouldn't create a 'searchable' PDF - in previous postings). I could try and trace the outline of the fonts but this is a huge document with more to follow in its path. Plus, after all the trouble we had before trying to get a 'searchable' PDF - I don't want to mess with the fonts. You mention that Distiller may have trouble with layered PostScript, but if that were the case then I would suspect the PDF to not have the information for the complete graphic in it (which it does), or that the PDF would never display properly (but by changing that one preference, it does). So......I think Distiller converted the postscript to PDF properly but Exchange is not displaying the graphic correctly. Particularly since Exchange 3.0 on the Unix here will display the same PDF graphic properly (with or without the 'smoothing' preference set). Any other clues???? Thanks again, Tracie Gunnar wrote: In my experience, PDF doesn't use layers. It's also been my experience that layered PostScript, which is your intermediate stage, can face problems during parsing, which is what Distiller is doing. If I were dealing with those files (by which I'm saying, this is a bit of an idiosyncratic approach, I would do one or all of the following: 1) Save As from the original Interleaf document to a new one, and flatten the layers, or copy all of the elements and paste on to a single layer. You won't be using the layers in PDF, and you've kept the original, so this won't affect your ability to edit the images at a later date. Try Distilling the flattened documents. 2) If you can at all render the fonts as outlines in Interleaf, try that as well. At that point you're not having to render typefaces in Distiller, so "smoothing" should not be necessary. If Interleaf cannot do this, I would try opening the documents in Illustrator, FreeHand or Corel and outlining the fonts there. If you have a large number of documents, this will get a bit unweildy, but I warned you this was an idiosyncratic approach. 3) If option 2) is unavailable, instead of "smoothing text and graphics", I would want to know if there an option in Interleaf for including all typefaces as part of the original PostScript output. It makes for larger files, but all of the character shape information should then be available to Distiller. 4) You also haven't mentioned whether Interleaf gives you the choice between ASCII and Binary, or PostScript levels 1 or 2. These can also affect how a PostScript file is written, and therefore how Distiller will handle the document. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 17:29:14-GMT,2595;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07501 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:29:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA31711; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:09:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 12:07:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31547; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:07:16 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <356276E3.20589481@realworld.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:00:40 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Errors in Reader Cc: Dean Laffan Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dean, Either your friend has a conflict on his machine. However, it might be a good idea to assign a bit more memory to the Reader and try again. Another thing he can try is to quit other applications. And also, check the fonts. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ________________ >Hi everyone, > >A friend is having trouble openng a PDF which is the technical user >manual for Go Live Cyber Studio. > >He is using OS 8.1 on a G3 laptop and gets the following errors after >the file opens: > >Expected 'El' while parsing an Image > >Unrecognised token 'W1' > >Too few operands > > > >The file opens, but doesn't display any text, ie. the page is all white. >We downloaded and re-installed the current Reader+Search, still the >same. > >However when I copy the file to my machine, Power Tower Pro 180e, OS >8.0, same Reader and Exchange... the file is fine. So the problem seems >to be a conflict on his machine. > >Before he starts labouriously checking for conflicts, does anyone know >these errrors? > >TIA > > >Dean Laffan >Real Worldd Productions ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 17:33:18-GMT,2311;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07652 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:33:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA32081; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:16:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 12:13:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31942; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:13:56 -0500 Message-ID: <35630FCF.6E1E@agora.stm.it> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:15:59 +0200 From: Ikonos X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Effective "byte serving" Web sites Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am interested in seeing some good and effective example of good uses and implementations of PDF byteserving on Web sites. I have seen once in the past, that a well setup site, can provide page viewing that is competitive both in terms odf performance and graphics layout with HTML. Can anybody suggest some URLs to look at? Many thanks, -- Luigi Canali-De-Rossi I K O N O S managing director M u l t i m e d i a via Vallombrosa, 6 00135 Rome, Italy mailto:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it Telephone 039 6 33.50.365 Facsimile 039 6 33.11.946 . . . . . Strategic creativity for Information design, multimedia and new media projects development, for research, education and information-based institutions, worldwide "Think strategy, before technology" ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 17:38:20-GMT,7104;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07884 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:38:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA31710; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:09:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 12:07:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31580; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:07:29 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E052260@ARTHUR> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:50:39 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Exchange Lite Cc: Karl De Abrew Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Karl, this discussion comes up at regular intervals. I do agree that for certain functionality the Reader can not be used, and the full package and Exchange is overkill. About six months ago, the understanding was either to persuade Adobe to create something between the Reader and Exchange, or to develop a third party product. The reason against the third party product was that at that time, the major candidate did not support any kind of forms. Having a user version of Exchange - opposed to the current developer version - would have big advantages, as you say. On the other hand, if you take electronic catalogs as an example, the cost of a bulk licence for Exchange is pretty close to the manufacturing cost of a catalog in book form. And the shipping cost for that book is comparable to the manufacturing and shipping cost of a CD. Keep in mind that I only compare production cost. Generating cost can be assumed to be comparable. For other applications too, the additional value of the product more than justifies the cost for Exchange. Bulk licences 50000 copies and more are available, but maybe not through the normal Adobe channels. I also heard about publisher licences which can be used for more than one single CD-ROM title. "Unbundling" Exchange from the current Acrobat package does not sound like a good idea to me. In fact, the Acrobat package is essentially a developing package ... and must therefore remain complete. BTW, I wonder what that PDFWriter/Reader combo should be good for. I could imagine that this is mainly aimed at MessyWord customers. The results may cause more damage to the Acrobat format than we can expect. So, better let Exchange where it is, but get an intermediate product which is essentially Exchange, but with the developing features stripped (such as creating and modifying form fields, assembling documents, modifying texts and so on). It must have the ability to programmatically save documents - at least forms. It does not matter whether that product is from Adobe or someone else. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _____________ >Good morning all, > >As plug-in developers and pdf consultants we often come across the same >problem with our clients. That is, the majority of solutions that we >propose require Acrobat Exchange as opposed to Acrobat Reader. Fine, >you may think, excepting that the clients simply will *not* go ahead due >to the prohibitive cost of Exchange. > >This is *not* positive for both us and Adobe, and for this reason I am >interested to start a thread [that will be 'overheard'] about an >Exchange Lite product to overcome this. > >I am *sure* that others will have experienced the same scenario. > >Obviously a company cannot afford to give away a product for nothing >[that is unless it is a browser, in which case they'll give the source >code as well ]. However, the full Acrobat product costs in the order >of $300. [Yes, if you purchase in bulk you do receive a discount, and I >know it is possible to purchase Exchange as a stand alone (for about $35 >per copy if you buy 100).] This is often many more copies of Exchange >than required and not feasible [at least in the eyes of our client's >management]. Many of the features of Exchange [never mind Acrobat] are >*not* required by your average desktop users. > >We at RTS, propose an 'unbundling' of Exchange from the Acrobat suite. >That is, recognition should be given to the users who are situated >between the read-only users [Reader] and the power users [authors - >distiller, pdfwriter] of PDFs. Also, >* That Exchange is marketed as a stand alone product (more vigorously >than it is at present) as well as in the Acrobat Suite. >* That the pricing for this product is relatively low. Acrobat Exchange >should attempt to replace the Reader [in a considerable number of >cases]. > >>From a developers point of view, it is very difficult to persuade people >to buy Acrobat Exchange at its present price. Whilst you have discounted >site licenses there are many individual users who find it difficult to >justify the cost. One of the main reasons for difficulty in cost >justification, is that Acrobat Exchange has a strong competitor, yes, >Acrobat Reader. To the uninformed, it appears to be the same product, >people are reluctant to pay large sums of money for something they >believe they already have [hence the large number of requests for Reader >automation]. > >To facilitate this and perhaps further stratify the market, features >could be removed from Exchange to lower the cost [this makes the product >more accessible to users who would have otherwise gone without - we do >*not* propose that it makes it cheaper to develop]. This approach is >consistent with avoiding the selling of 'bloatware'. Users are confused >by, and do not/should not need to pay for software they will never use. > >Users should be able to purchase only the functionality they need at a >pro-rata cost. > >Of course this process would take time and effort on Adobe's part - plus >has the potential to add confusion to the marketplace [in that people >will not know which product to choose]. Thoughts, and comments please >... > >n.b. We have seen the new Reader and PDFWriter combination for $29.95, >this is a step in the right direction [see >http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html] for details if you >didn't already know. > >regards, > >Karl De Abrew >karl@roundtable.com.au >Round Table Solutions - Are you an AcroBuddy yet? >http://www.roundtable.com.au/acrobuddies/acrobuds.htm >http://www.roundtable.com.au ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 18:05:21-GMT,1786;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08996 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:05:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01046; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 12:40:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00727; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:40:18 -0500 Message-Id: <005b01bd8416$587d5e40$6601a8c0@mdowden.dayton.oneil.com> From: "Mike Dowden" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Effective "byte serving" Web sites Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 13:40:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I am interested in seeing some good and effective example of good uses >and implementations of PDF byteserving on Web sites. >Can anybody suggest some URLs to look at? We developed a website at www.pavetechnologyco.com that implements byteserving. It's their product catalog (about 27 pages) and comes up page at time. See if this is what you're looking for. Mike www.oneil.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 18:06:12-GMT,2525;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09020 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01122; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:45:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 12:41:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00811; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:41:26 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] duplex? Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:36:14 +0100 Message-ID: <002b01bd8416$5a65a640$6af582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3562F61E.A41E3C1A@beacon.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Yeah, you could hack that into the PostScript output of > Reader. But to get > really fancy, you could embed it as pass-through PostScript > code in your > *source* PostScript file (pre-Distillation) using the /PS > pdfmark [pdfmark > Reference Manual, p. 16]. Then you would have a PDF file > that "likes to print > duplexed whenever possible". This hacky-but-legitimate > methodology should even > be fine on a level 2 PostScript printer without duplexing > capabilities. > I've thought about this, and concluded it is not viable, though I'd love to be corrected. The reason is that pass through PostScript becomes part of the page it is on. There's no way to make it part of the header. And, setpagedevice always has the effect of erasing the current page and resetting most of the default graphics state. Doing this in the middle of a page, or after the page setup, seems as though it may produce wildly undesirable results. Don't be tempted by gsave ... setpagedevice grestore either, as the grestore will reinstall the old graphics state and device attributes. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 18:06:48-GMT,2426;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09048 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:06:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01157; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:45:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 12:41:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00861; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:41:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PhotoShop 3 to PDF resolution problems Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 11:42:34 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1316457941-144682043@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com (jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com) wrote on 5/20/98 9:36 AM: >I have artwork created in Photo Shop 3. Resolution looks great on screen in >Photo Shop (on a Mac). I export to EPS, then run Distiller on an Windows NT >PC. The resukting PDF looks good on high resolution monitors, but falls >apart on most monitors w/ 256 color and low resolution. > >Is there an generally accepted way of dealing with this problem? I have >spent a lot of frustrating time trying to figure this out. I don't know what your expectations are, but they may not be achievable. Most any 24 bit continuous tone image will look like crap on a 8 bit monitor. There are PhotoShop plugins that will convert 24 to 8 bit images doing "as good a job as possible," but it still usually looks much worse than the 24 bit image does. Think about it; you're forcing millions of colors into just 256 possibles. You're bound to get a lot of ugly artifacts. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 19:30:32-GMT,2687;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11033 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA05445; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:04:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 14:01:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05208; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:01:11 -0500 Message-ID: <356329FC.27946A29@glyphica.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:07:40 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Effective "byte serving" Web sites References: <35630FCF.6E1E@agora.stm.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You might look at http://www.aafla.org/OlympicInformationCenter/OfficialReports.htm This site contains a variety of new and old official Olympic documents. The 1984 report (which is the first PDF file on the link above) is 910 pages, 11x17, converted from paper to PDF, full-text, and averages 70k/page. With byteserving implemented, it is speedy, attractive, and effective in delivering visually rich and complex information via the web. Also see the PDF book of historic Olympic posters from this century on the site at http://www.aafla.org/ArtAndArtifacts/ArtAndSport.htm It's a beautiful book and a good browse ... and if you've got one of the 1440 dpi printers, you can find another one of the benefits of PDF on the web! The good art starts on page 22 ... Have fun, Deidre ........................................ Glyphica Content Production & Management http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web! http://www.purePDF.com ........................................ Ikonos wrote: > I am interested in seeing some good and effective example of good uses > and implementations of PDF byteserving on Web sites. I have seen once in > the past, that a well setup site, can provide page viewing that is > competitive both in terms odf performance and graphics layout with HTML. > Can anybody suggest some URLs to look at? > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 19:38:01-GMT,2367;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11207 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:38:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA06067; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:15:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 14:13:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05912; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:13:09 -0500 Message-ID: <35632B28.7DA677DC@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:12:40 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] duplex? References: <002b01bd8416$5a65a640$6af582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi Inston wrote: > > > Yeah, you could hack that into the PostScript output of > > Reader. But to get really fancy, you could embed it as > > pass-through PostScript code in your *source* PostScript > > file (pre-Distillation) using the /PS pdfmark. > > I've thought about this, and concluded it is not viable, though > I'd love to be corrected. The reason is that pass through PostScript > becomes part of the page it is on. There's no way to make it part of > the header. Getting academic now...but one would conceivably do that through a customization to showpage. > And, setpagedevice always has the effect of erasing the current page > and resetting most of the default graphics state. Doing this in the > middle of a page, or after the page setup, seems as though it may > produce wildly undesirable results. Good point. Maybe statusdict (level 1 methodology) could be used instead--although the usage may be device-specific to the QMS--not sure about that. Like I said, it's a starting point. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 20:17:59-GMT,1994;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12082 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:17:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07979; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:45:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 14:42:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07804; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:42:50 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:47:33 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: Re: [PDF] Effective "byte serving" Web sites Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello all, I've placed PDF viewer, Acrobat 3.01 Reader, and Exchange into my Netscape Plugin folders (following instructions at the Olymic Posters site). Very interested in enabling this btye-serving capability. Then went to General Preferences in Netscape to ensure the Pdf Viewer and associated "radio buttons" where active under "Edit". Handle by Netscape or Acrobat Reader? Apply then OK? When I return Olymics Poster website: http://www.aafla.org/ArtAndArtifacts/ArtAndSport.htm And click on the link to the PDF file, it activates a download. I'm obviously doing something wrong. Shouldn't Acrobat Reader launch and view the document on-line? Any ideas about what I'm doing wrong? Cheers Murray McCombs mmccombs@interlog.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 20:58:05-GMT,3490;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13059 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:58:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA10443; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:30:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 15:26:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10246; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:26:38 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:31:27 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: [PDF] RE: PDF byte-serving Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello again, RE: PDF Viewer for Macintosh, using Netscape 3.0 or greater. These are the instructions at Adobe's Website: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/4cfe.htm 5. Using Reader with Netscape Navigator Use Netscape Navigator 3.0 or later, which supports all Reader 3.0 features, to view PDF files inside the browser window. Although you can use Reader 3.0 with Navigator 2.0, it does not support all Reader 3.0 features (e.g., PDF forms). A system error may occur when printing PDF files from Reader 3.0 opened within Navigator 2.0. During installation, Reader 3.0 installs the PDFViewer file in the Netscape Navigator plug-ins folder. This file enables Reader 3.0 to display PDF files in the Navigator browser window, instead of opening a separate Reader window. You do not need to set up Navigator 3.0 to recognize Reader 3.0 as a helper application. If you have multiple versions of Navigator installed, make sure the PDFViewer plug-in file is installed in the plug-ins folder for the version of Navigator you'll be using. If you open a PDF file from within Navigator, but Reader opens a separate window outside the Navigator window, do one or more of the following: A. Use Navigator 3.0 or later. B. Delete Reader from the Helpers pane in Netscape Navigator's Preferences dialog box: 1. In Navigator, choose Options > General Preferences. 2. In the Preferences dialog box, click the Helper tab. 3. Select "application/pdf" from the Description list, then press Delete. 4. Select Reader from the Handled By list, then press Delete. 5. Restart Navigator. If you don't want Reader to display a particular PDF file automatically in the Navigator browser window (e.g., if you want to use Acrobat's Find option in the PDF), save the PDF file to your hard disk, open Reader, then use Reader's Open command to open the file. To permanently prevent Reader 3.0 from displaying PDF files in the Navigator browser window, remove the PDFViewer plug-in file from the plug-ins folder for the version of Navigator you're using, then set up Reader as a helper application in Navigator. For more information, see document 4459. It still doesn't work! Any ideas? Am I missing something? Cheers Murray McCombs mmccombs@interlog.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 20-May-1998 23:08:50-GMT,2517;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15991 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:08:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA16548; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:39:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 17:34:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16285; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:34:43 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Effective "byte serving" Web sites Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:32:52 +0100 Message-ID: <003601bd843f$55cc4b60$6af582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > > Hello all, > > I've placed PDF viewer, Acrobat 3.01 Reader, and Exchange > into my Netscape > Plugin folders (following instructions at the Olymic Posters site). > > Very interested in enabling this btye-serving capability. > > Then went to General Preferences in Netscape to ensure the > Pdf Viewer and > associated "radio buttons" where active under "Edit". Handle > by Netscape or > Acrobat Reader? Apply then OK? > > When I return Olymics Poster website: > http://www.aafla.org/ArtAndArtifacts/ArtAndSport.htm Hmmm. The instructions on that site are misleading and/or confusing and/or dangerous. What you should do is install Acrobat to its normal location - or another one, but definitely not Netscape's plugin folder. If you have done this, I'd strongly advise you to uninstall Acrobat completely, then reinstall. Installing Acrobat Reader -or- Exchange (you only need one for this) will put a plug-in nppdf32.dll into Exchange's plugins folder automatically. That's all that you need for a PDF file to view in-line. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 4:48:50-GMT,1940;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA22663 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 22:48:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA30074; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:24:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 May 1998 23:16:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29779; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:16:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Link Checker Plug In Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:19:01 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Would anybody be interested in a plugin that goes through your PDF documents (first layer) or directories of PDFs (based on link hierachy) and checks to see whether the link target(s) actually exist? For example: PDF A Links to PDF B ---> PDF B is consequently deleted/moved/renamed etc ----> Plug In Reports Error and/or PDF A links PDF B links to PDF C links to PDF ...X ----> any combination is moved/deleted/renamed etc ---> Plug In Reports Error I have been using it for a while and it helps out immensely. I am not selling this but know where to get it from. Let me know off list and I'll let you know the details. d...................... ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 8:50:01-GMT,1502;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA27471 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 02:50:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA04638; Thu, 21 May 1998 03:26:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 03:22:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04518; Thu, 21 May 1998 03:22:37 -0500 X-Sender: mwalker@popa.ifb.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:24:38 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: euroburo Subject: re [PDF] effective 'byte serving" web sites Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 hi we publish a monthly business journal which is also available on our website in "byteserved" PDF's http://www.euroburo.com/journal.html the total 84 page journal is about 3 mb but is then split up into byteserved sections (each page is about 80k) regards marc ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 8:59:24-GMT,2091;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA27607 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 02:59:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA05020; Thu, 21 May 1998 03:37:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 03:35:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04935; Thu, 21 May 1998 03:35:44 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980521100524.00b7c860@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:05:24 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] duplex? In-Reply-To: <35632B28.7DA677DC@beacon.com> References: <002b01bd8416$5a65a640$6af582c1@gateway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 15:12 20/05/98 -0400, Cory Snavely wrote: >> And, setpagedevice always has the effect of erasing the current page >> and resetting most of the default graphics state. Doing this in the >> middle of a page, or after the page setup, seems as though it may >> produce wildly undesirable results. > >Good point. Maybe statusdict (level 1 methodology) could be used >instead--although the usage may be device-specific to the QMS--not sure about >that. In all the Level 2 RIPs that I know of that include the statusdict procedures still they simply map through to calls to setpagedevice and therefore still erase the page. Regards Martin Bailey Harlequin Ltd ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 11:41:58-GMT,4248;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00261 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 05:41:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA08382; Thu, 21 May 1998 05:32:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 05:29:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08241; Thu, 21 May 1998 05:29:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199805211029.KAA17681@eamail1.unisys.com> From: "Dembek, Raymond F" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Effective "byte serving" Web sites Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 05:30:56 -0500 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A slight correction to the attached plugin, plug-in, plug_in reply: For Windows: Acrobat plug-ins (.api files) reside in the Exchange\Plug_ins or Reader\Plug_ins directory but plug-ins for the Netscape browser (especially the plug-in to run Acrobat inside Navigator/Communicator, nppdf32.dll) should be in the Program Files\Netscape\Communicator\Program\Plugins directory, assuming default installation. To complete the picture, the ActiveX control to use Acrobat inside Internet Explorer resides in the Acrobat3\Reader\ActiveX or Acrobat3\Exchange\ActiveX directory. To correctly byte-serve when using Internet Explorer 4.x, you need to update the ActiveX control pdf42.ocx from the Adobe Web Server. Now a request: We have experienced occasional problems byte-serving PDF files from both UnixWare and NT web servers when viewed through Netscape Communicator 4.04 or 4.05. When this fails, the PC seems to go into a processor loop waiting for something from the server that never arrives. Has anyone else experienced this? No problems with Netscape Navigator 3.x seems to work fine. We have reported this to Adobe Support but would appreciate hearing from anyone who has an understanding of the circumstances that make this occur. Regards, Ray Dembek Unisys Corp. (734)737-4975 - Michigan > ---------- > From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 6:32 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Effective "byte serving" Web sites > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > I've placed PDF viewer, Acrobat 3.01 Reader, and Exchange > > into my Netscape > > Plugin folders (following instructions at the Olymic Posters site). > > > > Very interested in enabling this btye-serving capability. > > > > Then went to General Preferences in Netscape to ensure the > > Pdf Viewer and > > associated "radio buttons" where active under "Edit". Handle > > by Netscape or > > Acrobat Reader? Apply then OK? > > > > When I return Olymics Poster website: > > http://www.aafla.org/ArtAndArtifacts/ArtAndSport.htm > > Hmmm. The instructions on that site are misleading and/or > confusing and/or dangerous. > > What you should do is install Acrobat to its normal location > - or another one, but definitely not Netscape's plugin folder. > > If you have done this, I'd strongly advise you to uninstall > Acrobat completely, then reinstall. > > Installing Acrobat Reader -or- Exchange (you only need one for > this) will put a plug-in nppdf32.dll into Exchange's plugins > folder automatically. That's all that you need for a PDF file > to view in-line. > > Aandi > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 13:44:34-GMT,3128;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02560 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:44:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA14762; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:16:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 08:14:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14570; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:14:38 -0500 Message-ID: <19980521131423.4821.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [208.255.159.243] From: "Bill Leslie" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Errors in Reader?? and Exchange Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 06:14:23 PDT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:23:33 +1100 >From: Dean Laffan >Subject: [PDF] Errors in Reader > >Hi everyone, > >A friend is having trouble openng a PDF which is the technical user >manual for Go Live Cyber Studio. > >He is using OS 8.1 on a G3 laptop and gets the following errors after >the file opens: > >Expected 'El' while parsing an Image > >Unrecognised token 'W1' > >Too few operands > > > >The file opens, but doesn't display any text, ie. the page is all white. >We downloaded and re-installed the current Reader+Search, still the >same. > >However when I copy the file to my machine, Power Tower Pro 180e, OS >8.0, same Reader and Exchange... the file is fine. So the problem seems >to be a conflict on his machine. > >Before he starts labouriously checking for conflicts, does anyone know >these errrors? > >TIA > > >Dean Laffan >Real Worldd Productions > I'm having similar problems that just cropped up...my machine is Power Mac 8600/300, OS 8.3, Exchange 3.01, with similar error message, to wit: On opening: "This file is damaged being repaired." When it opens it is blank. When I click on link to a page in doc: "There was an error proccessing a page. Too few operands." Click OK "Unable to extract embedded font 'ALIAHL+ACaslon-Semibold' Some characters may not display correctly." then: "Am unrecognized token 'mightou' was found" then the page opens blank. File will not print. -BTW, this file is the Quite Imposing docs that come with the Quite Imposing demo that I downloaded to check out, so I figure they know what they are doing in creating PDFs! ------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Leslie My opinions are my own and Kinko's RTP do not reflect those of my 4900 NC Highway 55 employer Durham, NC 27713 919-405-1800 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 13:45:44-GMT,1522;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02593 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:45:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA14554; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:14:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 08:10:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14380; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:10:44 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: PENTON CLEVELAND From: "John Hricko" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525660B.0048A8A9.00@mail.penton.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:17:40 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Floating navigation palette? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Has anyone ever offered a plug-in which allows users to customize a floating palatte for custom navigation/interfacing? We've been trying to make our projects behave more like a browser, but putting buttons on each page seems cluggie. John Hricko Penton New Media ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 13:52:29-GMT,2179;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02739 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:52:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA16344; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:40:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 08:37:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16169; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:37:51 -0500 Message-ID: <35642E42.8D2@dallas.net> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 08:43:09 -0500 From: Tony Guerry Organization: KT Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: re [PDF] effective 'byte serving" web sites References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 euroburo wrote: > we publish a monthly business journal which is also available on our > website in "byteserved" PDF's > > http://www.euroburo.com/journal.html > > the total 84 page journal is about 3 mb but is then split up into > byteserved sections (each page is about 80k) How do you set up PDFs to byteserve? Is this a server side action? Thanks Tony -- +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=++ Tony Guerry KT PUBLISHING Web Page Design & Desktop Publishing Garland, Texas USA ktpub@dallas.net http://www.dallas.net/~ktpub (Under a Major Major Overhaul) ++=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+++ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 14:37:18-GMT,2911;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03796 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:37:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA17688; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:03:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 09:00:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17505; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:00:48 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980521140044.009d1754@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> X-Sender: sasrzs@mailhost.fyi.sas.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:00:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randy Stoltz Subject: Re: [PDF] PhotoShop 3 to PDF resolution problems Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 One option is to put a decent (relatively) looking low resolution graphic in the PDF and make it a link to a second graphic with higher resolution and more colors. Then make the second graphic a link to return to the original page. This allows you to minimize the sixe of the initial PDF (and the initial loading time of the document) and if the reader needs to they can also get a more detailed view. At 11:36 AM 5/20/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I have artwork created in Photo Shop 3. Resolution looks great on screen in >Photo Shop (on a Mac). I export to EPS, then run Distiller on an Windows NT >PC. The resukting PDF looks good on high resolution monitors, but falls >apart on most monitors w/ 256 color and low resolution. > >Is there an generally accepted way of dealing with this problem? I have >spent a lot of frustrating time trying to figure this out. > >Thanks- > >Jeremy Treister >Sensorium Software > > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > _____________________________________________________________________ Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 ____________________________________________________________________ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 18:12:53-GMT,2355;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09264 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:12:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA29082; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:53:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 12:49:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28868; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:49:36 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980521124838.006a56fc@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:48:49 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] Reader Viewing problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Referring back to a recent posting about not being able to view the text in a PDF (image+text)... "I have a user running a Win95: P-I, 166, 32M that is having display problems. This display error occurs with both the Acrobat 3.0 and 3.01 readers. The PDF file(s) in question have been scanned using Capture (image+text) and the practice we use is pretty standard for all of our scanned PDF files. Here is the problem: User opens the scanned PDF file and the entire screen is blank, like a blank sheet of paper. The user can choose print and get good printed results; the user can use the [abc] text selection tool and select all of the text. It is almost like the text is of a white color." Are there any issues of video drivers causing this problem?? I did not get much reponse on the first posting... Thanks! Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS ph: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 check us out -- 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.omnipress.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 19:20:42-GMT,2220;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10956 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:20:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA32204; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:56:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 13:53:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA32038; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:53:39 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Trying to cut an image into half-greyscale, half-bitmap Date: Thu, 21 May 98 11:54:39 -0000 x-sender: ishak@mail.daigle.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Ishak To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1316370825-73209525@www.daigle.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This issue has been bothering me, and I am asking for help from this quite advanced pdf community. Scanning a page with images and text, I have been forced to save the image as a bitmap graphic in order for the text to be readable. However, the resulting photo-quality image appears with a pronounced moray pattern because of the lack of greyscale shading. I planned on pasting the photo-quality section of the greyscale image over the bitmap document of the whole page, but have not figured out how to do this even in Illustrator or PageMaker. Will the PitStop plug-in solve this dilemna or are there any other techniques my newbiness has overlooked. I assume that the issue of marrying a single scan of a page with text and images so that both appear clear and legible is a worthy one on this forum. TIA for any help. ~ik i s h a k k a n g Webmaster@daigle.com Daigle Design Bainbridge Island, WA 206 842 5356 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 19:37:20-GMT,2536;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11379 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:37:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00765; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:23:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 14:20:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00638; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:20:53 -0500 From: "Michael R. Cessna" Organization: Cessna Publishing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:20:51 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Floating navigation palette? CC: jhricko@penton.com In-reply-to: <199805211749.MAA28885@everglades.binc.net> Message-ID: <19980521192044.AAA20547@ns1.win.net.win.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 John, > Has anyone ever offered a plug-in which allows users to customize a > floating palatte for custom navigation/interfacing? > > We've been trying to make our projects behave more like a browser, but > putting buttons on each page seems cluggie. I've played with the idea of creating such a plug-in, do you think there'd be much interest? The following are two senarios I've considered: 1. A plug-in which allows the 'developer' to create a multimedia floating toolbar, complete with three bitmap states: enabled, mouse_down, and mouse_over...as well as wav_down and wav_over .wav audio. You would build this toolbar by using either a configuration file (.ini file), specifying the bitmaps to use, their height/width etc.,...and the actions associated with them, or with a completely visual program. 2. A plug-in which allows the 'user' to add buttons to their own floating toolbar...such as navigation, search, home, etc. If you're interested in a custom floating toolbar I'd be glad to help create one. I'm not sure if I'll ever have the time to create the plug-ins mentioned above, though I'm interested in doing so. Regards, Michael Cessna Cessna Publishing ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 19:57:10-GMT,2723;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11790 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:57:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA01462; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:35:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 14:33:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01266; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:33:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Trying to cut an image into half-greyscale, half-bitmap Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:34:06 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1316364848-150286141@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ishak (ishak@daigle.com) wrote on 5/21/98 4:54 AM: > This issue has been bothering me, and I am asking for help from this >quite advanced pdf community. Scanning a page with images and text, I >have been forced to save the image as a bitmap graphic in order for the >text to be readable. However, the resulting photo-quality image appears >with a pronounced moray pattern because of the lack of greyscale shading. >I planned on pasting the photo-quality section of the greyscale image >over the bitmap document of the whole page, but have not figured out how >to do this even in Illustrator or PageMaker. Will the PitStop plug-in >solve this dilemna or are there any other techniques my newbiness has >overlooked. I assume that the issue of marrying a single scan of a page >with text and images so that both appear clear and legible is a worthy >one on this forum. TIA for any help. Frankly this is not a PDF question at all, but the solution is very simple. Just scan the whole page as bitmap, then scan just the photo as grayscale (or color). Drop the bitmap on a page in whatever layout app you like, then drop the photo image on top just covering the underlying bitmapped photo, print to disk and distill. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 19:58:05-GMT,2348;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11798 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:58:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA01493; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:37:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 14:34:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01387; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:34:51 -0500 Message-ID: <356481C3.CEFDBC56@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:34:28 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Trying to cut an image into half-greyscale, half-bitmap References: <1316370825-73209525@www.daigle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ishak wrote: > > This issue has been bothering me, and I am asking for help from this > quite advanced pdf community. Scanning a page with images and text, I > have been forced to save the image as a bitmap graphic in order for the > text to be readable. However, the resulting photo-quality image appears > with a pronounced moray pattern because of the lack of greyscale shading. > I planned on pasting the photo-quality section of the greyscale image > over the bitmap document of the whole page, but have not figured out how > to do this even in Illustrator or PageMaker. I would be inclined to scan the page, do clean-up in *PhotoShop* or any other raster editing tool, and then import the final TIFF into Exchange and capture from there. Note that you will need to convert the bitmap to grayscale before lodging the photo in, and therefore might have to reduce the resolution overall in order for the Capture plug-in to handle it. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 20:14:49-GMT,3157;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12195 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:14:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02509; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:57:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 14:54:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02305; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:54:34 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A607AE@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Trying to cut an image into half-greyscale, half-bitmap Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:08:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 My company developed this Image Recognition/OCR tool that might fit your need. We have included some useful image editing tool along with full color OCR capabilities. Enough said. To get rid of the Moray pattern, you can smooth the image. Make sure the image is 24-bit color or 8-bit gray. If your image is at a lower bit-rate, we have a promote color function to increase the bit-rate. You have absolute flexibility to deal with quality image sections and your OCRed text sections on the same working background image. It's free for test drive from our web site http://www.pagegenie.com. Good luck! Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging Developer of PageGenie: The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR. http://www.pagegenie.com > Scanning a page with images and text, I > have been forced to save the image as a bitmap graphic in order for > the > text to be readable. However, the resulting photo-quality image > appears > with a pronounced moray pattern because of the lack of greyscale > shading. > I planned on pasting the photo-quality section of the greyscale image > over the bitmap document of the whole page, but have not figured out > how > to do this even in Illustrator or PageMaker. Will the PitStop plug-in > > solve this dilemna or are there any other techniques my newbiness has > overlooked. I assume that the issue of marrying a single scan of a > page > with text and images so that both appear clear and legible is a worthy > > one on this forum. > > i s h a k k a n g > Webmaster@daigle.com > Daigle Design > Bainbridge Island, WA > 206 842 5356 > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 21:05:01-GMT,2715;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13430 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:05:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA04653; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:44:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 15:42:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04547; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:42:02 -0500 Message-ID: <356491D1.24C6139D@net.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:42:58 -0700 From: Tom Regner Organization: N.E.T. http://www.net.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Digest CC: jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PhotoShop 3 to PDF resolution problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There is only one way I've found to deal with this problem. In Photoshop, change the mode from RGB (or CMYK or whatever color mode you're using) to Indexed, and then choose "Adaptive" in the dialog box that opens. This will reduce the colors needed to display the graphic to 256 colors, true, but the 256-color palette will "adapt" to the image so that it will select the 256 most-prevalent colors in the image. Remember that "8-bit" color is eight bits PER CHANNEL, so even though you are limited to 256 colors, those colors can be any of over 16 million available. Image quality will be degraded on systems capable of displaying 24-bit color, but will actually be improved on systems capable of displaying only 256 colors. This is the only "generally accepted" method of which I am aware. Good luck! -- Tom Regner Network Equipment Technologies Inc. Jeremy Treister wrote: >I have artwork created in Photo Shop 3. Resolution looks great on screen in >Photo Shop (on a Mac). I export to EPS, then run Distiller on an Windows NT >PC. The resukting PDF looks good on high resolution monitors, but falls >apart on most monitors w/ 256 color and low resolution. > >Is there an generally accepted way of dealing with this problem? I have >spent a lot of frustrating time trying to figure this out. > >Thanks- > >Jeremy Treister >Sensorium Software ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 21:14:13-GMT,2423;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13637 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:14:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05073; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:54:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 15:51:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04982; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:51:48 -0500 Message-ID: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B1832D93C@cougar.tfmg.com> From: Robin McCloud To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" Subject: [PDF] Home Toolbar Button Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:58:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I was wondering if anyone knows of a plug-in that puts a "home" button on the Acrobat Reader toolbar to take the user back to the welcome page? Or, how to create one if that is possible? We've been using Acrobat for a year now, basically converting our 15+ volumes of documentation from Word to PDF. The only complaint we consistently get from users is that they have a difficult time returning to the Welcome page we provide from the myriad of other files in our Master folder. We've been so busy converting that we've become accustomed to doing certain tasks in the software. Hence, we're still learning how to use some of the features of Acrobat. We are currently talking about putting a home button on the first page of each file, and creating a bookmark to that page within each file. Before we go that route, however, I wanted to put this question to the list to see if there's an easier way to do this task. Thanks for any input! Robin Mc2 (McCloud McDonald) Sr. Technical Communicator Information Development Department The FAST Management Group, Inc. Redmond WA www.tfmg.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 22:16:47-GMT,3103;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15138 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:16:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA06576; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:22:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 16:19:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06400; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:18:58 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980521211853.00d72504@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:18:53 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Home Toolbar Button Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All you really need to do is set up a Bookmark (the first one in the list, by convention), whose Action is to Open your "home" PDF file. Be sure all of your documents are set up so that they automatically open with Bookmarks displayed. This is a very easy, portable, solution, requiring only standard Acrobat Reader features; no plug-in is needed. Tom Thiersch At 01:58 PM 5/21/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I was wondering if anyone knows of a plug-in that puts a "home" button on >the Acrobat Reader toolbar to take the user back to the welcome page? Or, >how to create one if that is possible? > >We've been using Acrobat for a year now, basically converting our 15+ >volumes of documentation from Word to PDF. The only complaint we >consistently get from users is that they have a difficult time returning to >the Welcome page we provide from the myriad of other files in our Master >folder. > >We've been so busy converting that we've become accustomed to doing certain >tasks in the software. Hence, we're still learning how to use some of the >features of Acrobat. We are currently talking about putting a home button on >the first page of each file, and creating a bookmark to that page within >each file. Before we go that route, however, I wanted to put this question >to the list to see if there's an easier way to do this task. > >Thanks for any input! > >Robin Mc2 (McCloud McDonald) >Sr. Technical Communicator >Information Development Department >The FAST Management Group, Inc. >Redmond WA > www.tfmg.com > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 21-May-1998 23:33:00-GMT,2558;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16823 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:32:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA10285; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:59:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 17:55:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10115; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:55:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199805212257.RAA02593@mustang.fidnet.com> X-Sender: mueller@mail.fidnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:56:03 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com From: Randall Mueller Subject: [PDF] Tell me your set up on the mac.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Anyone who uses Quark on a mac with os8 or 8.01, works with spot colors, vector and tiff images, and sends files to imagesetter that has no high end rip (we only have tiapan 1.1, AND has no problems but are consist ant in your production, please tell me: 1 what version chooser you use. 2 what version psprinter you use (do you use it?) 3 what version laserwriter8 you use. 4 What version of Acrobat PPD do you use? 5 Any special settings you found works well (for instance, applying colors to tiffs in quark will not show for separations unless you deselect "use opi comments" in distiller.) The other methods I am working with is PageMaker and it's plugin to import PDFs. We need this because we step our jobs our, we use Quark for set up. I convert our guide sheets ,that contain our specification and where used to make the dies, into PM and then place the pdf and print to our imagesetter for film out put. We out put for silkscreen, offset and 4CP. For some unknown reason I have been receiving Postscript errors on my pdfs, printing to our Accelwriter for sep and proofs, and on the rip. I by mistake change this and that and it works for a bit then goes haywire...I am pulling my hair out now. Randall mueller@fidnet.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 1:08:03-GMT,1617;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18916 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 19:08:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA13104; Thu, 21 May 1998 19:23:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 19:20:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12951; Thu, 21 May 1998 19:20:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980522111333.0178b5b0@10.0.0.1> X-Sender: comsoft@10.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:13:33 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Colin Allen Subject: [PDF] Btyeserving + Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Under control of an ASP application, I need to be able to force from the server end the transmission of a particular page, i.e. not simply allow byteserving to send the first page and then respond to browser requests. Is this possible? Does anyone have any ideas? Even a way to send a particular page ONLY would solve my problem. Thanks in advance. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 3:28:41-GMT,3143;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21863 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 21:28:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA18612; Thu, 21 May 1998 22:04:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 May 1998 22:00:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18436; Thu, 21 May 1998 22:00:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:01:11 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Derek MacEwen Subject: [PDF] Re: Home Toolbar Button Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The latest version of the xToolsOne utility (http://www.xman.com)comes with just such an item. You mark your "welcome" page, or in our case our "welcome" and "bienvenu" using their "xHome" utility, and add the plug-in to your plugins directory. It adds a "Home" buttom in Reader and Exchange (picture of a house), which returns you to the last marked home page accessed. The xHome runtime plug-in for Reader can be distributed royalty-free. They only had a Win 95 version, but told me via email several months ago that they would be distributing a 16 bit one free on their Web site. Haven't checked to see if they have done that. Don't know about a Mac version, as we don't use them. We used xHome on our last CD, to rave reviews. Derek MacEwen Veterans Affairs Canada > > I was wondering if anyone knows of a plug-in that puts a "home" button on > the Acrobat Reader toolbar to take the user back to the welcome page? Or, > how to create one if that is possible? > > We've been using Acrobat for a year now, basically converting our 15+ > volumes of documentation from Word to PDF. The only complaint we > consistently get from users is that they have a difficult time returning to > the Welcome page we provide from the myriad of other files in our Master > folder. > > We've been so busy converting that we've become accustomed to doing certain > tasks in the software. Hence, we're still learning how to use some of the > features of Acrobat. We are currently talking about putting a home button on > the first page of each file, and creating a bookmark to that page within > each file. Before we go that route, however, I wanted to put this question > to the list to see if there's an easier way to do this task. > > Thanks for any input! > > Robin Mc2 (McCloud McDonald) > Sr. Technical Communicator > Information Development Department > The FAST Management Group, Inc. > Redmond WA > www.tfmg.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 9:29:38-GMT,3020;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28727 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 03:29:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA27733; Fri, 22 May 1998 03:56:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 03:51:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA27592; Fri, 22 May 1998 03:51:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3565C605.191@netmedia.net.il> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:37:57 -0700 From: A S Goldberg X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] PDF publications and "printability" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I apologise if this subject has already been discussed on the List, but I would appreciate views - whether legal, commercial, philosophical or, perhaps most of all, based on customer reaction experiences - on the following. I wish to publish specialised technical "documents" (books, reports, journals, etc) in PDF format and will clearly market them as publications in electronic format. The prime intention will be for on-disc storage and on-screen reading. Is there any obligation or expectation also to provide the ability to print out hard copies of these PDF files? If so, what level of quality of printout? I would suspect that we are still living in times where many people prefer to "read" conventional printed hardcopy, even if the acquisition and storage of content is more convenient and/or attractive in digital format. My concerns are from the perspectives both of publisher and purchaser. For the former, potential restriction of Copyright breaching opportunities is always desirable (as is the reduction of file size). Whilst, generally, files can be easily copied electronically, the inability to make printouts would elminate conventional avenue for easy illicit reproduction. (However, at the end of the day, some printing is always possible, even where Acrobat Reader does not provide this, by a good screen capture utility!) For the latter - the purchaser of publications - there must be a feeling of satisfaction with the product and "value for money". If, however, a product is marketed as exclusively digital, can there still be cause for disappointment and complaint? Your views would be appreciated Abraham Goldberg Av-Bri On Line Information Services Ltd Jerusalem ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 12:36:53-GMT,2537;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01948 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 06:36:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA00127; Fri, 22 May 1998 07:05:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 07:02:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32698; Fri, 22 May 1998 07:02:00 -0500 Message-ID: <35656A10.DDF58470@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 07:05:44 -0500 From: Scottie Scott Organization: Graphics 2000 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms/Printing References: <4A2565F4.0080F3FE.00@Sydney2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hey Joe, What is persistant global objects? Where can I get it? It is like a database. Where is the data saved. How is the data opened? I have many questions. I need to use it for interactive exams in Acrobat. I want to set up true or false questions. Let the student check whichever answer then press send. Scottie scla@earthlink.net Joe.Cincotta@eurorscg.com.au wrote: > From: Joe Cincotta@EURORSCG_SYD on 29/04/98 11:53 > > Hi! (my first mail for the list - its a great resource!) > > Have you tried using persistant global objects? You need the Acrobat Forms > plug-in (free from the Adobe website.) > > I have used this to save persistent data across different forms - the only > problem is the 32Kb limit. Make sure that you give users the option to > delete persistant objects if they stop using your PDF application. > > Cheers, > Joe > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 14:53:33-GMT,2512;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04794 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 08:53:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04765; Fri, 22 May 1998 09:09:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 09:04:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04547; Fri, 22 May 1998 09:04:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199805221404.PAA12922@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> From: "Peter Mathews" To: Subject: [PDF] Floating Navigation Palette Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:08:54 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Computerstream developed this very product earlier this year. It was part of a specific solution, but we have left the development "open" so that it can be adapted for other customers. The Palette has been submitted and approved by Adobe for use with the Reader, and features a number of buttons (which are customisable and linked to other pages) together with last document - next document buttons. A list of relevent documents are listed in a bookmark-like window on the right hand side of the palette, which has the advantage of leaving the Acrobat document display free of bookmarks. We do not anticipate this product being sold out-of-the-box, but we will be happy to discuss with any potential clients how it might be licensed and used. Mail me off the list please. John Ricko wrote: Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:17:40 -0400 From: "John Hricko" Subject: [PDF] Floating navigation palette? Has anyone ever offered a plug-in which allows users to customize a floating palatte for custom navigation/interfacing? We've been trying to make our projects behave more like a browser, but putting buttons on each page seems cluggie. John Hricko Penton New Media ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 16:03:49-GMT,4039;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06636 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:03:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09476; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:36:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 10:31:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09160; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:31:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:30:06 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] REMINDER - Unsubscribe for summer, vacations, etc. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ======================================================================= A friendly reminder for PDF and/or PDF-Digest list subscribers: ======================================================================= With the end-of-the-school-year season upon us again, many email discussion lists soon will experience an annual, unnecessary rash of bouncing messages from no-longer-in-existence email addresses. 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If you have a problem, feel free to contact me DIRECTLY -- please do not post "Need Help Unsubscribing" messages to the *list* address. rgds ~ Kurt ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- "Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * PDF lists: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html * PDFzone EXTRA: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars -30- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 16:04:01-GMT,1849;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06651 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:04:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA10186; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:47:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 10:43:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09969; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:43:53 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:42:25 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Deborah Bartlett Subject: [PDF] nppdf32.dll file location Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi, Re: your comments of May 20 concerning Reader viewing problems -- Our office publishes online policies and procedures manuals used in-house at our university. In every case we've encountered with Windows users here who have downloaded and installed Reader, but are still not able to access the PDF versions of our manuals, they've had the nppdf32.dll file residing in the Acrobat/Browser folder. Moving the .dll file over to the Netscape/Plugins folder has solved the problem every time. I find it curious that you're advising just the opposite. Deb Bartlett Procedures and Forms Washington State University dbartl@mail.wsu.edu ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 17:22:05-GMT,2400;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10708 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA13428; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:54:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 11:50:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13261; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:50:22 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980522095442.007d1100@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:54:42 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller misdirects links In-Reply-To: <01BD8564.9D697580.scott_ramos@infometrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For the big book, print only those files you want in the big book to one PS file, then distill. For the smaller pieces, specify the filename as "*" like you did. In theory, that should work. At 09:33 AM 5/22/98 -0700, you wrote: > >In our 30+ chapter manual converted from FM, some pieces need to be kept >as separate PDF files while the remainder are to be grouped into a single >file. The only way I have found to do this so that cross-reference links >are kept intact is to print to file and specify a filename as "*" so that >individual .PS files are saved for each .FM document. Then, I distill the >individual files separately and use RunFile to distill the other files >into the main PDF document. > >Cross references are preserved for the individually distilled files, but >all links in the main pdf file are misdirected. The links are active but >none point to the proper location. In fact, it seems as if they are all >pointing to locations only in the first 2-3 pages although the document is >over 300 pages. > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 17:22:05-GMT,3298;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10712 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:22:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA12641; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:36:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 11:31:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12486; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:31:46 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD8564.9D697580.scott_ramos@infometrix.com> From: "Scott Ramos" To: "PDF List (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Distiller misdirects links Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:33:00 -0700 Organization: Infometrix, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In our 30+ chapter manual converted from FM, some pieces need to be kept as separate PDF files while the remainder are to be grouped into a single file. The only way I have found to do this so that cross-reference links are kept intact is to print to file and specify a filename as "*" so that individual .PS files are saved for each .FM document. Then, I distill the individual files separately and use RunFile to distill the other files into the main PDF document. Cross references are preserved for the individually distilled files, but all links in the main pdf file are misdirected. The links are active but none point to the proper location. In fact, it seems as if they are all pointing to locations only in the first 2-3 pages although the document is over 300 pages. Have I done something incorrectly in attempting to distill with the RunFile script or is there a problem with the approach itself? I am running Distiller 3.01 on a Mac with System 7.5.5. TIA, ScottIn our 30+ chapter manual converted from FM, some pieces need to be kept as separate PDF files while the remainder are to be grouped into a single file. The only way I have found to do this so that cross-reference links are kept intact is to print to file and specify a filename as "*" so that individual .PS files are saved for each .FM document. Then, I distill the individual files separately and use RunFile to distill all other files into a main PDF document. Cross references are preserved for the individually distilled files, but all links in the main pdf file are misdirected. The links are active but none point to the proper location. In fact, it seems as if they are all pointing to locations only in the first 2-3 pages although the document is over 300 pages. Have I done something incorrectly in attempting to distill with the RunFile script or is there a problem with the approach itself? I am running Distiller 3.01 on a Mac with System 7.5.5. TIA, Scott ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 17:33:56-GMT,3020;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10996 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:33:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14400; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:16:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 12:11:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14182; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:11:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms/Printing Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:15:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Scottie, If your looking for something general to create tests check A-Frame @ http://www.roundtable.com.au/fr_aframe.htm Best, Robin -----Original Message----- From: Scottie Scott [SMTP:scla@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 7:06 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms/Printing Hey Joe, What is persistant global objects? Where can I get it? It is like a database. Where is the data saved. How is the data opened? I have many questions. I need to use it for interactive exams in Acrobat. I want to set up true or false questions. Let the student check whichever answer then press send. Scottie scla@earthlink.net Joe.Cincotta@eurorscg.com.au wrote: > From: Joe Cincotta@EURORSCG_SYD on 29/04/98 11:53 > > Hi! (my first mail for the list - its a great resource!) > > Have you tried using persistant global objects? You need the Acrobat Forms > plug-in (free from the Adobe website.) > > I have used this to save persistent data across different forms - the only > problem is the 32Kb limit. Make sure that you give users the option to > delete persistant objects if they stop using your PDF application. > > Cheers, > Joe > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 17:57:59-GMT,1632;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11587 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:57:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15158; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:26:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 12:22:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14902; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:22:18 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980522132416.0093a870@mailman.epnet.com> X-Sender: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:24:17 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com (Andrew Lindsay) Subject: [PDF] Programatic way to insert line of text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm looking for a program or procedure that will insert a line of boilerplate text at the bottom of each page of any set of preexisting PDFs. Most of these would be Image Only PDFs, though some would be Normals. Andrew Lindsay Technical Manager - Electronic Publishing EBSCO Publishing Ipswich, MA 01938 (978) 356-6500 x268 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 18:00:13-GMT,2638;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11684 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:00:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA16486; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:45:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 12:41:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16235; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:41:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] nppdf32.dll file location Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:14:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bd85a8$be9cf800$d3f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Aandi, > > Re: your comments of May 20 concerning Reader viewing problems -- > > Our office publishes online policies and procedures manuals > used in-house > at our university. In every case we've encountered with > Windows users here > who have downloaded and installed Reader, but are still not > able to access > the PDF versions of our manuals, they've had the nppdf32.dll > file residing > in the Acrobat/Browser folder. > > Moving the .dll file over to the Netscape/Plugins folder has > solved the > problem every time. > > I find it curious that you're advising just the opposite. I don't believe I advised this. I was advising against using the Netscape plug-ins folder as the target for installing all of Acrobat (instead of using c:\acrobat3) - a practice I have encountered recently and which doesn't seem to work very well. If Netscape is properly installed, the move of nppdf32.dll will be automatic. However, many people have messed up copies of Windows and/or Netscape (e.g. by copying files and not installing, or reinstalling Windows without reinstalling applications) and it is these who will need to copy the DLL separately. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-1998 18:41:50-GMT,2071;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12744 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:41:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18069; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:16:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 13:10:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17815; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:10:35 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Programatic way to insert line of text Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:46:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01bd85ac$c8f96aa0$d3f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980522132416.0093a870@mailman.epnet.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I believe that both Compose and Quite Imposing Plus can do this task. I don't know if you want batching; QI+ cannot do that. (Confusingly, the function "Add page numbers" is also used to add un-numbered text in QI+). Using only the basic tools, you can - with less accuracy - use the forms tool to add text overlays on a page. > > I'm looking for a program or procedure that will insert a line of > boilerplate text at the bottom of each page of any set of > preexisting PDFs. > > Most of these would be Image Only PDFs, though some would be Normals. > Aandi Inston Quite Software ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 23-May-1998 1:42:46-GMT,3788;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21875 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 19:42:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA32529; Fri, 22 May 1998 20:15:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 May 1998 20:10:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA32330; Fri, 22 May 1998 20:10:24 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD85AC.DAD36C80.Peggy.Gunter@tanner.com> From: Peggy Gunter To: "'mtype@netvision.net.il'" , "'matthew_j_neal@sbphrd.com'" , "'FrameUsers list -- posting'" , "'PDF list -- posting'" , "'melcom@primex.co.uk'" , "'ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it'" To: "'collinc@lmgroup.com'" , "'jsmat@proaxis.com'" , "'vtex@omnitel.net'" , "'marci@intersys.com'" , "'goddess@sharonburton.com'" Cc: "'Peggy Gunter'" Subject: [PDF] cannot create searchable index with Acrobat Catalog Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:10:07 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 [Cross-posting to FrameUsers and PDF lists, and various Acrobuddies] Hello Framers and PDFers: Background: I am trying to create searchable indices of multiple PDF files using Acrobat Catalog 3.0 for Windows 95 on the PC. The original documents were created in FrameMaker 5.1.1 on the Mac, saved as MIF, then opened in FrameMaker 5.5 on the PC and saved as PDF files using the "Save as > PDF" option. I am using the AdobePS Acrobat Distiller 3.0 printer driver, and we only have Type 1 fonts in our documents, primarily Times and Helvetica (except for a TrueType bullet font, but I'm not trying to search on that). Problem: The "Tools > Search" command in Acrobat Reader 3.01 does not highlight the correct word in the Catalog-generated index. It highlights random words in the body text, or a bullet, or random letters in the header or footer. As I mentioned earlier, I know this can happen when the PDF files contain TrueType fonts, but these files contain Type 1, base 14 fonts. I have tried to create the index for the same PDF files using Acrobat Catalog 3.0 on the Mac, but that produces the same result. I called Adobe tech. support (case #2378256) but they only quoted a techdoc I had already read on their website, stating that this was a known problem and sometimes using Reader 3.0 instead of Reader 3.01 fixed it; unfortunately, that isn't an option for us since Reader 3.0 caused other problems and Reader 3.01 fixed those. I am hoping that someone reading this message will have some idea of what else I can try. I also brought this problem to the STC conference in Anaheim and asked a lot of people there, but didn't find any answers. Please copy me directly if you reply to a list; I receive the Digests. Thank you. Peggy Gunter Technical Writer Tanner EDA peggy.gunter@tanner.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 23-May-1998 13:25:01-GMT,2315;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23433 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 07:24:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17592; Sat, 23 May 1998 08:08:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 May 1998 08:04:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17435; Sat, 23 May 1998 08:04:49 -0500 X-Sender: jhbauer@pop3.akula.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B1832D93C@cougar.tfmg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 08:23:34 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jonathan Bauer Subject: [PDF] Catalog: organizing indices Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello all: I have about 1150 PDF's (and the number grows by 5 to 15 PDF's each working day) ranging in size from a single page to about one hundred pages distributed over approximately 60 subdirectories (folders, actually, this is on a mac). My trial and error experience has been that it is better to separate these into several indices (indexes?) because when there is an error it is easier to track down, and if a particular file crashes a build, the crash creates fewer problems (that is, it creates problems for a smaller index saving the others). My questions: Is my trial and error conclusion correct (is it better to break the index into several smaller indices), and, if so, is there a practical limit on the number of indices that acrobat catalog will search through effectively. Using multiple discrete indices, I would end up with about 45 separate indices to start and the number would keep growing. My specs: PMac 9600/200, 128 Mbytes RAM. TIA, /jonathan mailto:jhbauer@akula.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 23-May-1998 13:25:01-GMT,2070;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23434 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 07:24:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA16919; Sat, 23 May 1998 07:49:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 May 1998 07:42:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16713; Sat, 23 May 1998 07:42:52 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Programatic way to insert line of text Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:42:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bd8648$3a3103e0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000e01bd85ac$c8f96aa0$d3f582c1@gateway> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I'm looking for a program or procedure that will insert a line of > boilerplate text at the bottom of each page of any set of > preexisting PDFs. > > Most of these would be Image Only PDFs, though some would be Normals. > PDFfusion does this. Check out www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 23-May-1998 16:27:41-GMT,1539;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27744 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 10:27:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA22431; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:07:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 May 1998 11:03:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22307; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:03:48 -0500 Message-ID: <703027BDE4A0D11181BA00001C002AC001E3DC@katya.scantype.com> From: Michael To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Tiff to PS or PDF Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:04:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Trying to locate tiff2ps.exe or equivalent ported for WinNT or 95. I know it's out there somewhere but I can't find it. If anyone can point me in the right direction I would be grateful. * ---------------------------------------------------- * Michael Brunson ScanType Corporation ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 23-May-1998 17:08:07-GMT,1776;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28631 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:08:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23636; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:44:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 May 1998 11:42:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23521; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:42:15 -0500 X-Sender: philvert@eos.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:41:20 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: paul hilvert Subject: [PDF] how to trap pdf Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A customer has send a pdf file with a 4-color bitmap image as entire background of the page. The white type has 100% black shadows that need to overprint. When the file is saved as eps from Exchange and opened in Illustrator, there are font problems since we don't have all of the customer fonts. Also, the file becomes very large and since the image is now rasterized, it can't be sampled for Color Central. Does anyone have any ideas as to how to most efficiently handle these files (there are 10 total with the same background image). Thanks ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 23-May-1998 17:41:02-GMT,2454;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29674 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:41:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA24736; Sat, 23 May 1998 12:23:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 May 1998 12:20:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24646; Sat, 23 May 1998 12:20:55 -0500 From: "David M. Davisson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PS or PDF Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:20:19 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bd866f$0fc73fd0$a2456cc7@shadow.pfp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <703027BDE4A0D11181BA00001C002AC001E3DC@katya.scantype.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Michael, Try http://www.earthlink.net/~ritter/tiff David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Michael > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 1998 9:05 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Tiff to PS or PDF > > > > Hi, > Trying to locate tiff2ps.exe or equivalent ported for WinNT or > 95. I know > it's out there somewhere but I can't find it. If anyone can point > me in the > right direction I would be grateful. > > * ---------------------------------------------------- > * Michael Brunson ScanType Corporation > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 23-May-1998 18:46:49-GMT,2779;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01443 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 12:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26531; Sat, 23 May 1998 13:23:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 May 1998 13:20:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26432; Sat, 23 May 1998 13:20:44 -0500 Message-ID: <703027BDE4A0D11181BA00001C002AC002D41C@katya.scantype.com> From: Michael To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PS or PDF Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:21:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks, David. BTW, the URL has changed to: http://home.earthlink.net/~ritter/tiff -----Original Message----- From: David M. Davisson [mailto:davisson@emuni.com] Sent: Saturday, May 23, 1998 10:20 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PS or PDF Michael, Try http://www.earthlink.net/~ritter/tiff David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Michael > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 1998 9:05 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Tiff to PS or PDF > > > > Hi, > Trying to locate tiff2ps.exe or equivalent ported for WinNT or > 95. I know > it's out there somewhere but I can't find it. If anyone can point > me in the > right direction I would be grateful. > > * ---------------------------------------------------- > * Michael Brunson ScanType Corporation > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 24-May-1998 14:02:29-GMT,2128;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12446 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 08:02:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22173; Sun, 24 May 1998 08:38:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 24 May 1998 08:30:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21838; Sun, 24 May 1998 08:30:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199805241333.JAA14734@marlo.eagle.ca> From: "Chris Calbury" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:32:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Customizing Exchange fields ...help!! X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01a) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Folks. We are VERY new to Adobe Acrobat and are desperate for some information ... please be gentle. We need to scan approximately 6000 files comprised of about 35 text pages each and store them on CD-ROM in a searchable fashion. We have the software and the scanner and are trying to learn and test at the same time. Our specific problem is this: How do we add 3 custom fields to each scanned document so that they may be indexed and searched on the custom fields (not OCR)? We have found (and changed) the acrocat.ini file in Windows but cannot seem to bring the new fields into either Exchange or Catalogue. The Adobe documentation pointed us to "customizing Exchange" at the Resources section of their site, but that appears to be a dead end. We would most greatly appreciate any help you may be able to provide. Thank you. Chris ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 24-May-1998 14:48:10-GMT,2489;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13472 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 08:48:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA23632; Sun, 24 May 1998 09:29:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 24 May 1998 09:25:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23555; Sun, 24 May 1998 09:25:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199805241425.JAA23551@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Customizing Exchange fields ...help!! Date: Sun, 24 May 98 10:25:20 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 [Chris Calbury wrote on 5/24/98 9:32 AM] > We need to scan approximately 6000 files comprised of about 35 text pages >each and store them on CD-ROM in a searchable fashion. We have the >software and the scanner and are trying to learn and test at the same time. > > Our specific problem is this: > How do we add 3 custom fields to each scanned document so that >they may be indexed and searched on the custom fields (not OCR)? > > We have found (and changed) the acrocat.ini file in Windows but >cannot seem to bring the new fields into either Exchange or Catalogue. The >Adobe documentation pointed us to "customizing Exchange" at the Resources >section of their site, but that appears to be a dead end. > > We would most greatly appreciate any help you may be able to >provide. Thank you. > >Chris Chris, Our AppendPDF application will allow you to add custom fields to PDF files. In addition, there are probably other applications or plug-ins that can do the same. Not sure; but, you can check out PDFFusion from CDC and PDFWorkshop from RoundTable Solutions. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 24-May-1998 15:00:41-GMT,2338;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13683 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 09:00:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24325; Sun, 24 May 1998 09:53:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 24 May 1998 09:48:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24195; Sun, 24 May 1998 09:48:43 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Customizing Exchange fields ...help!! Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 15:42:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd8722$e4da6e00$84f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199805241333.JAA14734@marlo.eagle.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Our specific problem is this: > How do we add 3 custom fields to each scanned document so that > they may be indexed and searched on the custom fields (not OCR)? > > We have found (and changed) the acrocat.ini file in Windows but > cannot seem to bring the new fields into either Exchange or > Catalogue. The > Adobe documentation pointed us to "customizing Exchange" at > the Resources > section of their site, but that appears to be a dead end. "Customising Exchange" in this case means writing a plug-in for Exchange, in C or C++. You can add new fields; this requires some knowledge of the PDF file format and the plug-in API, though most of the work may be in the user interface. Bear in mind that you need a custom plug-in not only to set custom fields but to display them; the Document Info dialog does not automatically expand to show them. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 9:04:00-GMT,3640;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24845 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 03:03:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA21509; Mon, 25 May 1998 03:42:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 03:37:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21372; Mon, 25 May 1998 03:37:20 -0500 Message-ID: <35692007.EA613C1E@realworld.com.au> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 18:39:00 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Still weird after all these years Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks to Randy and Bill for your tips, however I am still experiencing problems and the following is exactly what is still going wrong. Working on a Toshiba laptop P133,72 Mg Ram, Win 95, Office 97, Exchange 3.01, Reader 3.01 I have a main menu screen which links to other PDF's which are papers authored by various presenters, printed out of Word via Apple LaserWriter II and then Distilled. I want to run the menu screens in full screen mode, but the authors papers they link to, I want to display with Bookmarks and Fit Page Width. But when the authors paper screens open, they do so in full screen mode (which is NOT checked in document open info) I originally was using the Form tool and File Open to open the papers and File>Document Info>Open... setting the documents to open the way I want them. (Which didn't work) Randy and Bill suggested that the Form tool was a bit hinky and I should use the Link tool and use Go to View instead, which I have done. Same problem! The authors papers refuse to open as they should, instead they open full screen with no tool or scroll bars or if the File>Document Info>Open.. is set to Fit Page, then it opens with just the paper fitted top to bottom and black around the paper, and still no no toolbar or scroll bars, no way for the user to navigate the document. If at this time I hit the Esc key on the PC, the view drops out of Full Screen to the correct view, but my target users are non Acrobat savvy and besides what gives! What I have noticed is this... If I uncheck the "Open full screen" from the menu screens which precede the papers then the authors papers open fine. i.e.. Acrobat is seemingly "refusing" to let go of the "full screen mode" If at any stage later I encounter a document which has the Open Full screen box still ticked we are back to full screen mode all the time (BTW what has precedence for Acrobat, the settings in File>Document info> Open... or is that overridden by the Go to View or vice versa ? I am at the end of my tether and deadline for delivery is abut 18 hours! If anyone has ANY more ideas I would be eternally grateful. (Too late for first born, but we are having another in September and I am desperate enough to deal! TIA Dean Laffan Real World Productions ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 9:21:30-GMT,1773;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25245 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 03:21:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA22021; Mon, 25 May 1998 04:00:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 03:56:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21852; Mon, 25 May 1998 03:56:57 -0500 Message-ID: <356932E2.876BF7CC@cup.cam.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 09:59:17 +0100 From: Chris Hamilton-Emery Organization: Cambridge University Press X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01a (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adobe Acrobat Subject: [PDF] Checkup 1.5 bombs out? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Anyone having trouble with Enfocus Check-up 1.5 and Exchange on a Mac? Everytime I load Check-up it crashes my Mac . . . and reports a CHK error? All help welcome! -- All the best, Chris ======================================================================= Christopher Hamilton-Emery Publishing Division Production Manager Cambridge University Press http://www.cup.cam.ac.uk ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 11:49:15-GMT,3554;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28580 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 05:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA25334; Mon, 25 May 1998 06:16:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 06:11:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25182; Mon, 25 May 1998 06:11:48 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Customizing Exchange fields ...help!! Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:11:27 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bd87cd$dcd78840$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199805241333.JAA14734@marlo.eagle.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Chris wrote: > Our specific problem is this: > How do we add 3 custom fields to each scanned document so that > they may be indexed and searched on the custom fields (not OCR)? Local Render v1.1 (currently in Beta) provides this facility through the command line interface. Check out www.docctrl.com or get back to me directly. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Chris Calbury > Sent: 24 May 1998 14:32 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Customizing Exchange fields ...help!! > > > > Hi Folks. > > We are VERY new to Adobe Acrobat and are desperate for > some information ... please be gentle. > > We need to scan approximately 6000 files comprised of about 35 text pages > each and store them on CD-ROM in a searchable fashion. We have the > software and the scanner and are trying to learn and test at the > same time. > > Our specific problem is this: > How do we add 3 custom fields to each scanned document so that > they may be indexed and searched on the custom fields (not OCR)? > > We have found (and changed) the acrocat.ini file in Windows but > cannot seem to bring the new fields into either Exchange or Catalogue. The > Adobe documentation pointed us to "customizing Exchange" at the Resources > section of their site, but that appears to be a dead end. > > We would most greatly appreciate any help you may be able to > provide. Thank you. > > Chris > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 11:54:32-GMT,1393;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28715 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 05:54:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA26031; Mon, 25 May 1998 06:43:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 06:39:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25905; Mon, 25 May 1998 06:39:37 -0500 Message-ID: <35695864.6E8@ebc.ericsson.se> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:39:16 +0200 From: Sternas Per Organization: Ericsson Enterprise Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Termination of subscription Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Wish to terminate subscription! /Per Sternas Ericsson Business Communications ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 15:21:14-GMT,1823;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04051 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 09:21:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA31656; Mon, 25 May 1998 09:55:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 09:44:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31204; Mon, 25 May 1998 09:44:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3569832A.599E7C4B@nortel.ca> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:41:46 -0400 From: "Kevin Forbes" Organization: Nortel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat search from CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 My group develops documentation based CDs using a Macromedia Director template with Adobe Acrobat. The problem that we are having is with the index file for our documents. It seems that if a user wants to perform a search from the CD, they have to attach the index that we provided on the CD manually through reader. My question is, is there a way to attach the index automatically so that the user doesn't have to set it up through reader? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Kevin Forbes Multimedia Developer Nortel kevinfor@nortel.ca ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 15:21:20-GMT,6137;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04057 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 09:21:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA32050; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:03:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 09:58:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31787; Mon, 25 May 1998 09:58:50 -0500 Message-ID: <35698717.40F8@acm.org> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 09:58:32 -0500 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF publications and "printability" References: <199805230110.UAA32348@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Abraham - Given my prior company's (Xenos Group) extensive work with clients in helping them move hardcopy documents to PDF for Web use, and my current company's (GenText) work in providing the core technology to enable this migration, I'd have to say that in the majority of cases I've worked with there is an assumption that print-to-hardcopy is a required functionality (as background, the typical client I have worked with is a Fortune 1000 company wanting to port very high volume print applications (typically millions of pages per month) produced in a production environment to the Web or other electronic delivery media). Whether print is the primary viewing mechanism over display viewing or a secondary consideration behind display viewing is totally dependent on the user and the application, but I've found both are still assumed. I suggest at the very least if you are going to attempt to shut off print or make print less than optimal (e.g., by reducing graphics resolution), you must state very clearly in all your advertising material that you are doing so, and be prepared to deal with negative user reaction after they have bought and started using your product (i.e., "I didn't know it wouldn't print", even when your marketing literature clearly states it doesn't). Many people move to PDF over HTML specificially because it offers more 'book-like' functionality, including PDF's ability to print the same 'pages' as a book. Too many people still go to print, whether because of habit, personal preference, or because they want to 'view' the document later when they don't have access to a PC. To restrict this is to deny them a significant portion of the useability of the product. I believe to provide print capability at less than 300 DPI resolution (the current standard for most home and office printers, although the higher end of both is moving towards 600 DPI) is to do a disservice to your customers. I understand your desire to control illegal use, but as you pointed out, no matter what you do, a person wanting to illegally copy the document can do so via screen captures. Thus, by eliminating the print capability, I don't believe you are eliminating the potential for a person to illegally copy the document if they really desire to, and you're unfairly limiting the ability for your legitimate customers to use the product. Just my opinion. Hope this is helpful. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== >pdf-digest Friday, May 22 1998 Volume 02 : Number 226 > > Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:37:57 -0700 > From: A S Goldberg > Subject: [PDF] PDF publications and "printability" > > I apologise if this subject has already been discussed on the List, but > I would appreciate views - whether legal, commercial, philosophical or, > perhaps most of all, based on customer reaction experiences - on the > following. > > I wish to publish specialised technical "documents" (books, reports, > journals, etc) in PDF format and will clearly market them as > publications in electronic format. The prime intention will be for > on-disc storage and on-screen reading. > > Is there any obligation or expectation also to provide the ability to > print out hard copies of these PDF files? If so, what level of quality > of printout? I would suspect that we are still living in times where > many people prefer to "read" conventional printed hardcopy, even if the > acquisition and storage of content is more convenient and/or attractive > in digital format. > > My concerns are from the perspectives both of publisher and purchaser. > For the former, potential restriction of Copyright breaching > opportunities is always desirable (as is the reduction of file size). > Whilst, generally, files can be easily copied electronically, the > inability to make printouts would elminate conventional avenue for easy > illicit reproduction. (However, at the end of the day, some printing is > always possible, even where Acrobat Reader does not provide this, by a > good screen capture utility!) > > For the latter - the purchaser of publications - there must be a feeling > of satisfaction with the product and "value for money". If, however, a > product is marketed as exclusively digital, can there still be cause for > disappointment and complaint? > > Your views would be appreciated > > Abraham Goldberg > Av-Bri On Line Information Services Ltd > Jerusalem ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 15:54:48-GMT,1982;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05055 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 09:54:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00324; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:33:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 10:28:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00150; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:28:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat search from CD Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:24:40 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bd87f1$5dd5c240$84f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3569832A.599E7C4B@nortel.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > My group develops documentation based CDs using a Macromedia Director > template with Adobe Acrobat. The problem that we are having > is with the > index file for our documents. It seems that if a user wants > to perform a > search from the CD, they have to attach the index that we provided on > the CD manually through reader. My question is, is there a > way to attach > the index automatically so that the user doesn't have to set it up > through reader? > It sounds as though you require the "AutoIndex" plug-in. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 16:01:50-GMT,2101;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05262 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:01:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00882; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:48:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 10:43:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00694; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:43:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3569924B.77392E31@document-solutions.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 08:46:19 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat search from CD References: <000701bd87f1$5dd5c240$84f582c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi Inston wrote: > > My group develops documentation based CDs using a Macromedia Director > > template with Adobe Acrobat. The problem that we are having > > is with the > > index file for our documents. It seems that if a user wants > > to perform a > > search from the CD, they have to attach the index that we provided on > > the CD manually through reader. My question is, is there a > > way to attach > > the index automatically so that the user doesn't have to set it up > > through reader? > > > > It sounds as though you require the "AutoIndex" plug-in. ....and you need to attach the index to your "launchpad" PDF file via the File_Document Info_Index menu.... regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 16:22:04-GMT,2411;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05830 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01673; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:07:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 11:01:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01433; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:01:20 -0500 Message-ID: <356995BF.D240CE64@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:01:03 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Customizing Exchange fields ...help!! References: <000a01bd87cd$dcd78840$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Our specific problem is this: > How do we add 3 custom fields to each scanned document so that > they may be indexed and searched on the custom fields (not OCR)? You can do this for free by using pdfmarks. pdfmarks are PostScript language commands that you can insert into or append to a PostScript file. (See http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/technotes.html, #5150 pdfmark Reference Manual, p. 18.) This would result in a workflow something like this: paper document -> scan -> capture -> create PostScript -> add pdfmarks -> distill -> final PDF More steps (than with the plug-in route mentioned by some others), but good potential for automation at a low cost. You'll need programming talents to do it. Also, regarding custom search fields, the only way I know of to search them (without coding your own user interface) is to use an expression like (fieldname ~ fieldvalue) in the search dialog, where fieldname is the name of your field and fieldvalue is its value. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 16:34:45-GMT,2906;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06165 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:34:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02091; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:17:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 11:12:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01880; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:12:55 -0500 Message-ID: <35699878.C21B171D@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:12:41 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat search from CD References: <3569832A.599E7C4B@nortel.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Kevin Forbes wrote: > > My group develops documentation based CDs using a Macromedia Director > template with Adobe Acrobat. The problem that we are having is with the > index file for our documents. It seems that if a user wants to perform a > search from the CD, they have to attach the index that we provided on > the CD manually through reader. My question is, is there a way to attach > the index automatically so that the user doesn't have to set it up > through reader? You can associate a search index with a PDF file using Exchange (using File -> Document Info -> Index). Then, when that specific PDF file is opened, the search index is automatically added to the indexes list, and removed from the list when Reader/Exchange is closed.* The intended usage is that a user would always start using a given product by opening a certain page--a "home" or "welcome" page. Then searching will magically work for that session, and everything returns to normal afterward. In order to use this scheme, the Reader must have the Search plug-in (obviously) and the AutoIndex plug-in (which is distributed with the Reader w/ Search package from Adobe's web site). The normal distribution of Reader (without Search) will not do this. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group * I have observed that indexes added via AutoIndex on Solaris/SPARC are *not* removed when the Reader is closed. Combined with the nature of the daemon vold, which mounts CDs in "random" places on the filesystem, this can get a little messy, albeit functional. This bug has been reported (by me) to Adobe. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 19:55:02-GMT,2034;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11561 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 13:55:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09584; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:37:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 14:31:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09417; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:31:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3569C7AE.B7D50177@i2000.es> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 21:34:06 +0200 From: Alvaro de la Hera Martinez Organization: Interlinea 2000 S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ListasPDF Subject: [PDF] Populating a PDF form after the PDF file has been loaded in the Reader Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I am using PDF files and FDF to publish data stored in a relational database. However, I need a mechanism that allow me to send the PDF file with the form to the end user and automatically this PDF file request the FDF file with the data. Does anyone know how I can do this ? Thanks in advanced. -- A H | A H | Interlinea2000 Comunicaciones, S.A. AAAAHHHHMMMM | Kaskotegi 4, bajo A A M M | 20.305 Irun (Spain) AAAA M | Telephone: 34-43-619101 | Fax: 34-43-618159 Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 20:38:14-GMT,2085;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12740 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:38:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA10700; Mon, 25 May 1998 15:13:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 15:08:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10570; Mon, 25 May 1998 15:08:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3569CC0E.24047DE9@document-solutions.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:52:46 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Forms Author 3.5 instability References: <3.0.32.19980522132416.0093a870@mailman.epnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Folks: I'm running into an annoying instability with the Forms Author 3.5.... After authoring some fields, I innocently went change the tab order. On one particular field, Exchange crashes whenever I select it for renumbering. Exchange also crashes when I try to delete the same field. At this moment, I feel that I have no choice but to junk the page and start over... Any clues? System: Win95. The PDF is stored on a NT 4.0 volume, accessed over a TCP/IP LAN. TIA.... -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-1998 22:26:05-GMT,2143;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15649 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 16:26:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13882; Mon, 25 May 1998 17:04:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 16:59:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13707; Mon, 25 May 1998 16:59:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3569F83F.B763721E@empa.ch> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 00:01:20 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Checkup 1.5 bombs out? References: <356932E2.876BF7CC@cup.cam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Check-up 1.5 works fine on my Mac PPC 7100 with MacOS 8.1. Erwin Chris Hamilton-Emery wrote: > Anyone having trouble with Enfocus Check-up 1.5 and Exchange on a Mac? > Everytime I load Check-up it crashes my Mac . . . and reports a CHK > error? All help welcome! > -- > All the best, > > Chris > > ======================================================================= > Christopher Hamilton-Emery > Publishing Division Production Manager > Cambridge University Press > http://www.cup.cam.ac.uk > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 0:02:01-GMT,3643;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18464 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 18:02:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA16823; Mon, 25 May 1998 18:43:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 18:38:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16631; Mon, 25 May 1998 18:38:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Still weird after all these years Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 07:41:46 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dean, On the document targets (papers) you are trying link to with the specific view, create a PAGE OPEN ACTION, which makes the screen go to your liking. This will override the Full Screen option.. Hope this helps. d.......................... > Thanks to Randy and Bill for your tips, however I am still > experiencing > problems and the following is exactly what is still going wrong. > > Working on a Toshiba laptop P133,72 Mg Ram, Win 95, Office 97, > Exchange > 3.01, Reader 3.01 > > I have a main menu screen which links to other PDF's which are papers > authored by various presenters, printed out of Word via Apple > LaserWriter II and then Distilled. > > I want to run the menu screens in full screen mode, but the authors > papers they link to, I want to display with Bookmarks and Fit Page > Width. But when the authors paper screens open, they do so in full > screen mode (which is NOT checked in document open info) > > I originally was using the Form tool and File Open to open the papers > and File>Document Info>Open... setting the documents to open the way I > want them. (Which didn't work) Randy and Bill suggested that the Form > tool was a bit hinky and I should use the Link tool and use Go to View > instead, which I have done. > > Same problem! The authors papers refuse to open as they should, > instead > they open full screen with no tool or scroll bars or if the > File>Document Info>Open.. is set to Fit Page, then it opens with just > the paper fitted top to bottom and black around the paper, and still > no > no toolbar or scroll bars, no way for the user to navigate the > document. > > If at this time I hit the Esc key on the PC, the view drops out of > Full > Screen to the correct view, but my target users are non Acrobat savvy > and besides what gives! > > What I have noticed is this... If I uncheck the "Open full screen" > from > the menu screens which precede the papers then the authors papers open > fine. i.e.. Acrobat is seemingly "refusing" to let go of the "full > screen mode" > > If at any stage later I encounter a document which has the Open Full > screen box still ticked we are back to full screen mode all the time > > (BTW what has precedence for Acrobat, the settings in File>Document > info> Open... or is that overridden by the Go to View or vice versa ? > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 0:37:40-GMT,1641;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19641 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 18:37:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17792; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:13:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 May 1998 19:10:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17654; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:10:09 -0500 Message-ID: <35695F4C.2729@palmerhiggs.com.au> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 22:10:27 +1000 From: simon Organization: Palmer Higgs X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat search from CD References: <000701bd87f1$5dd5c240$84f582c1@gateway> <3569924B.77392E31@document-solutions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Further to Kevin Forbes question, we wish to be able to auto unload an index and load another without the default index ever appearing and with out quitting exchange. Can anybody help me with this one. Simon Longstaff Systems Manager Palmer Higgs ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 8:29:44-GMT,3577;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19245 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 02:29:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA30847; Tue, 26 May 1998 03:12:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 03:07:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA30722; Tue, 26 May 1998 03:07:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199805260807.KAA21108@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: [PDF] Re: Acrobat search from CD Date: Tue, 26 May 98 10:06:56 +0200 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi! You should not have to attach an index manually in Reader as long as you have provided the right path to the pdx file (the "main" indexing file) when setting up the connection between the index and the file(s) that you want to index in Acrobat Exchange. If you e.g. have a file called *Standard.pdf* that you have allready indexed, open this file in Exchange. Go to *File* > *Document info*, and then to *Index > Choose Index*. Pick your specific index. Some reminders: * Remember that you keep the relative relationship between your specific file and the index file when everything is brought to your CD rom * When authoring for Win 3.1 and 95 (this does not seem to be a problem on the MAC ?) remember that the pdx file and the folder with the supporting indexing files are placed at the same level on the CD rom (YourCD\example.pdx and YourCD\example(folder)). I, at least, had problems attaching the index with a file when the pdx file and its supporting files were on separate levels. * Remember to Choose the *Optimizing for CD rom* in Adobe Catalogs Preferences. In addition to make the index fastest possible, this option, according to the manual, does not cause Acrobat to come up with the message that there has been changes and ask the user if she/he will use the index anyway if the author has changed info fields or security settings after the index was build (I tried to say that as simple as possible. Really! ;) To avoid the last problem you can also use a stub file (an opening page with buttons to other documents e.g) that you attach to the index, but not index this file itself. I have used Director as a front end but have not tried more advanced stuff (integrating searching and such). Still, I think you should get what I described above to work! Best Regards, Richard Taubo Bergersen ltd -- Oslo, Norway Kevin Forbes wrote: >My group develops documentation based CDs using a Macromedia Director >template with Adobe Acrobat. The problem that we are having is with the >index file for our documents. It seems that if a user wants to perform a >search from the CD, they have to attach the index that we provided on >the CD manually through reader. My question is, is there a way to attach >the index automatically so that the user doesn't have to set it up >through reader? ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 13:49:39-GMT,3593;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27530 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 07:49:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA05435; Tue, 26 May 1998 07:54:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 07:50:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05270; Tue, 26 May 1998 07:50:31 -0500 Message-ID: <356ABCEB.6FED62E9@lsijax.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:00:28 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Still weird after all these years X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <35692007.EA613C1E@realworld.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dean Laffan wrote: > I want to run the menu screens in full screen mode, but the > authors > papers they link to, I want to display with Bookmarks and Fit > Page > Width. But when the authors paper screens open, they do so in > full > screen mode (which is NOT checked in document open info) > > I originally was using the Form tool and File Open to open the > papers > and File>Document Info>Open... setting the documents to open > the way I > want them. (Which didn't work) Randy and Bill suggested that > the Form > tool was a bit hinky and I should use the Link tool and use Go > to View > instead, which I have done. > > Same problem! The authors papers refuse to open as they > should, instead > they open full screen with no tool or scroll bars or if the > File>Document Info>Open.. is set to Fit Page, then it opens > with just > the paper fitted top to bottom and black around the paper, and > still no > no toolbar or scroll bars, no way for the user to navigate the > document. > > If at this time I hit the Esc key on the PC, the view drops out > of Full > Screen to the correct view, but my target users are non Acrobat > savvy > and besides what gives! > Hi Dean, I have a 'work-around' which might help. Instead of linking to the files...create a form button for the same purpose. On the mouse down command perform two actions: (1) Execute menu item and use view-->Full Screen (this toggles the full screen view on and off, so that if you're currently in full screen it takes it off - however, if you're not sure this could cause you problems), (2) Open File (I tried a go to view at this point and acrobat said that I couldn't change pages - not sure why - the open file worked fine). Using this method, I was able to start a file in full screen mode and link to a document with menu bars, bookmarks, etc.... This is truly a 'work-around' and probably not the easiest way but it will do what you want. Hope it helps. Tracie +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 15:17:23-GMT,2287;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00698 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:17:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA08676; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:22:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 09:19:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08546; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:19:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980526071415.007beda0@nci-web.com> X-Sender: lists@nci-web.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 07:14:15 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Benoit Chenette, EDPP" Subject: [PDF] Anyone has free MARKUP Plug-in from samples available ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Has anyone compiled and made available the following plug-in from the Adobe SDK site ( 0000,0000,ffffhttp://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk/pisamples.html )? I would like to use it to highlight text in documents (both on file server and the Web). from web site: MARKUP: Allows users to draw ink on a document. It installs a markup button on the toolbar and a corresponding Mark Up command on the Tools menu. (27KB) MS Sans Serif 0000,0000,ffff Benoit Chenette, EDPP NCI USA INC. ffff,0000,0000Modern Document Technology Consulting bchenette@nci-web.com EFax: 514.221.2039 (Fax delivered via Email) Web : 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.nci-web.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 16:07:47-GMT,1504;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02770 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 10:07:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA12238; Tue, 26 May 1998 10:40:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 10:31:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11651; Tue, 26 May 1998 10:31:40 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980525194238.008126b0@pop.comstar.ru> X-Sender: haven@pop.comstar.ru X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:42:38 +0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Business Forms Group, Maxim Gorodin" Subject: [PDF] Bookmark problem In-Reply-To: <01BD8564.9D697580.scott_ramos@infometrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all, I have a problem: Bookmarks for PDF files are made on PC. Bookmarks in PDF files are not read Acrobat Reader 3.01 on MAC. Thanks. Max ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 17:14:59-GMT,2317;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05195 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 11:14:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA14365; Tue, 26 May 1998 11:17:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 11:13:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14095; Tue, 26 May 1998 11:13:52 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD8886.897B5B40.Peggy.Gunter@tanner.com> From: Peggy Gunter To: "'PDF list -- posting'" , "'jpf_wark@sympatico.ca'" , "'comments@adobe.com'" Subject: [PDF] font encoding in Distiller Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:13:23 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, Can anyone tell me how Distiller encodes fonts, or point me to some documentation on this topic? I am distilling Frame 5.5 files on the PC, and in the resulting PDF files the "File > Document Info > Fonts" command lists all the fonts as 'Custom' under the 'Encoding' column; the 'Used Font' and 'Type' columns are usually blank. We are using postscript, base 13 fonts in our documents -- mostly Times and Helvetica -- and I would really like to get Reader to use the correct fonts, I think this might solve my indexing problem. (See my previous message, subject "cannot create searchable index with Acrobat Catalog", Adobe case #2378256.) Can anyone tell me how I can force these documents to use standard font encoding? Please copy me directly if you reply to the list; I receive the Digest. Thanks. Peggy Gunter Technical Writer Tanner EDA peggy.gunter@tanner.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 17:41:08-GMT,3076;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06336 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 11:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17314; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:25:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 12:21:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17128; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:21:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD888F.F57F3F60.Peggy.Gunter@tanner.com> From: Peggy Gunter To: "'Snavely, Deborah'" , "'PDF list -- posting'" Subject: [PDF] RE: cannot create searchable index with Acrobat Catalog Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:20:49 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Deborah, Thanks very much for the tip -- I tried what you suggested; unfortunately, it didn't work. I replaced the TrueType bullet character tag in Frame with a PostScript font (I tried Symbol and Times), then confirmed with the generated list of fonts that there were no TrueType fonts in the file. I saved as PDF, generated the index with Catalog, then tested it -- and the wrong words were highlighted. In the PDF file the 'File > Document Info > Fonts' command says that the correct Type 1 fonts are being used -- but it still says 'Custom' for all fonts in the 'Encoding' column. Do you know what that means? Thanks again for your help. Peggy Gunter Technical Writer Tanner EDA peggy.gunter@tanner.com On Tuesday, May 26, 1998 9:50 AM, Snavely, Deborah [SMTP:dsnavely@visa.com] wrote: > Peggy, > > >As > >I mentioned earlier, I know this can happen when the PDF files contain > >TrueType fonts, but these files contain Type 1, base 14 fonts. > > >we only have Type 1 fonts in our documents, primarily Times and Helvetica > >(except for a TrueType bullet font, > > Just a guess, but I'd suspect that this known bug affects documents with > ANY TrueType fonts in them. As a test, try changing the bullets in one > document to a PostScript font (any font, never mind what it looks like), > and distill that and see if it works right. (Generate a list of > references to fonts only and verify that there are no other TrueType > fonts buried in the Frame document.) If it does, then you'll need a > PostScript bullet font to solve it unless Adobe plans to disgorge a > maintenance update soon. > > Deborah Snavely > contracting at Visa > standard disclaimers apply > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 17:59:56-GMT,2106;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07045 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 11:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18337; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:49:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 12:47:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18221; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:47:25 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256610.0061625D.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:44:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Programatic way to insert line of text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Compose will do this Sue alindsay@mailman.epnet.com (Andrew Lindsay) on 05/22/98 10:24:17 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Programatic way to insert line of text I'm looking for a program or procedure that will insert a line of boilerplate text at the bottom of each page of any set of preexisting PDFs. Most of these would be Image Only PDFs, though some would be Normals. Andrew Lindsay Technical Manager - Electronic Publishing EBSCO Publishing Ipswich, MA 01938 (978) 356-6500 x268 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 18:22:35-GMT,2714;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08023 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:22:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19290; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:09:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 13:06:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19170; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:06:49 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256610.00632C79.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 11:03:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Anyone has free MARKUP Plug-in from samples available ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=YjVeyjZcL7qa6P1ueza8qcCgUVVA8hzNx3vyi2MYmYU5YHCyiV4OxozP" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --0__=YjVeyjZcL7qa6P1ueza8qcCgUVVA8hzNx3vyi2MYmYU5YHCyiV4OxozP Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii have you ever ventured into this site? "Benoit Chenette, EDPP" on 05/26/98 07:14:15 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Anyone has free MARKUP Plug-in from samples available ? --0__=YjVeyjZcL7qa6P1ueza8qcCgUVVA8hzNx3vyi2MYmYU5YHCyiV4OxozP Content-type: Has anyone compiled and made available the following plug-in from the Adobe SDK site ( http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk/pisamples.html)? I would like to use it to highlight text in documents (both on file server and the Web). from web site: MARKUP: Allows users to draw ink on a document. It installs a markup button on the toolbar and a corresponding Mark Up command on the Tools menu. (27KB) Benoit Chenette, EDPP NCI USA INC. Modern Document Technology Consulting bchenette@nci-web.com EFax: 514.221.2039 (Fax delivered via Email) Web : http://www.nci-web.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: < mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com> Sub/Unsub: < http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html> --------------------------------------------------------- --0__=YjVeyjZcL7qa6P1ueza8qcCgUVVA8hzNx3vyi2MYmYU5YHCyiV4OxozP-- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 18:25:32-GMT,4128;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08113 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:25:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19515; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:13:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 13:10:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19352; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:10:38 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD88A7.8F419DC0@max1-148.max1.cll.infohwy.com> From: Ron Culp To: "'pdf questions'" Subject: [PDF] Trellex? Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:09:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD88A7.8F4AC580" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD88A7.8F4AC580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I met with a client today using Trellex to vies both html and pdfs in = his intranet browser. I saw it, and it is interesting. Anybody else = heard of this? Where can I get it? Am I the last on the planet to hear = about it? 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=xGUBglRHL4lxQCDGYiL6gKEpM09o90pJ4qpKHRa4MQa4kKF6wkVYQYb8" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --0__=xGUBglRHL4lxQCDGYiL6gKEpM09o90pJ4qpKHRa4MQa4kKF6wkVYQYb8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Apologies to the list - I clicked the wrong button! sgililland@nexstar.com on 05/26/98 11:03:37 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: [PDF] Anyone has free MARKUP Plug-in from samples available ? have you ever ventured into this site? "Benoit Chenette, EDPP" on 05/26/98 07:14:15 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Anyone has free MARKUP Plug-in from samples available ? --0__=xGUBglRHL4lxQCDGYiL6gKEpM09o90pJ4qpKHRa4MQa4kKF6wkVYQYb8 Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="att1.unk" Content-transfer-encoding: x-uuencode begin 644 att1.unk M2&%S(&%N>6]N92!C;VUP:6QE9"!A;F0@;6%D92!A=F%I;&%B;&4@=&AE(&9O M;&QO=VEN9R!P;'5G+6EN(&9R;VT@=&AE($%D;V)E#0I31$L@ the 'Used > Font' and 'Type' columns are usually blank. We are using > postscript, base > 13 fonts in our documents -- mostly Times and Helvetica -- > and I would > really like to get Reader to use the correct fonts, I think > this might > solve my indexing problem. (See my previous message, subject "cannot > create searchable index with Acrobat Catalog", Adobe case > #2378256.) Can > anyone tell me how I can force these documents to use standard font > encoding? > Distiller will usually honour the encoding used in the PostScript file. You can't usually control this; applications will usually encode to suit their own needs. It won't directly affect searchability; in fact the point of font encodings is that they DON'T stop you from finding out what character corresponds to a particular code. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 19:15:23-GMT,2647;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09839 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:15:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21505; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:58:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 13:54:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21285; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:54:37 -0500 Message-ID: <356B0FDC.E83F5130@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:54:20 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: cannot create searchable index with Acrobat Catalog References: <01BD888F.F57F3F60.Peggy.Gunter@tanner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Peggy Gunter wrote: > > Thanks very much for the tip -- I tried what you suggested; unfortunately, > it didn't work. I replaced the TrueType bullet character tag in Frame with > a PostScript font (I tried Symbol and Times), then confirmed with the > generated list of fonts that there were no TrueType fonts in the file. I > saved as PDF, generated the index with Catalog, then tested it -- and the > wrong words were highlighted. Even though the wrong word may be highlighted, don't be so sure that your search didn't work. In my experience, PDF files created from certain applications suffer from a problem with highlighting, namely that the word offset into a page becomes confused and the highlight server highlights the wrong words. Usually it is off by one or two words, but it could probably be more. I posted a lot on the topic some time ago and it is all in the hypermail archive, therefore please see that for the details. Anyway, I suspect that if you look a few words after the word that is highlighted, you will see the hit on your search query term sitting right there. I've reported this bug to Adobe, additional reports may provide additional diagnostic information for them. This is a fix I'm hoping for in 4.0. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-1998 20:15:56-GMT,1343;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11409 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:15:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA24105; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:59:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 14:56:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23928; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:56:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:51:00 -0700 X-Priority: 3 From: "Seymour-Karpf, Megan" Subject: [PDF] Receipt of 5/26/98 6:00 AM message To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Re:Re: [PDF] Still weird after all these years ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 27-May-1998 3:19:30-GMT,2286;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21328 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 21:19:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA08410; Tue, 26 May 1998 21:53:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 May 1998 21:50:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA08305; Tue, 26 May 1998 21:50:45 -0500 From: MXW9919@aol.com Message-ID: <93a9ff2d.356b7f74@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 22:50:27 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Distiller Setup file questions Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 40 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greetings All, My name is Mark Witkowski, and I work for United Lithograph in Somerville, MA. I have recently been working on a setup file for Distiller and I have two questions; First; is there a <> command for the use of Epilogue and Prologue? I assume not because in all setup files and accompanying instructions there are comments instructing you to manually engage the use of Epilogue and Prologue. In addition, I have inadvertently been Distilling files while moving only the Prologue to the same folder as Distiller, and not Epilogue. I have not had any errors or warnings posted, and in addition my spot colors are showing properly in the PDF file, is this dangerous? Any thoughts? Second; in the fine tuning of the DCTEncode filter for the use of JPEG compression, what are the proper settings in the Color (or Gray)ImageDict for the Blend, HSamples and VSamples at the various QFactors? There are recommendations made in the Example.ps file, but are those the best references? Thanks in advance Mark W mxw9919@aol.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 27-May-1998 8:41:18-GMT,2883;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16296 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 02:41:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA17116; Wed, 27 May 1998 03:20:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 May 1998 03:17:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17017; Wed, 27 May 1998 03:17:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980527101159.00b91140@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 10:11:59 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller Setup file questions In-Reply-To: <93a9ff2d.356b7f74@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 22:50 26/05/98 EDT, MXW9919@aol.com wrote: > >Greetings All, >My name is Mark Witkowski, and I work for United Lithograph in Somerville, MA. >I have recently been working on a setup file for Distiller and I have two >questions; > >First; is there a <> command for the use of Epilogue and >Prologue? I assume not because in all setup files and accompanying >instructions there are comments instructing you to manually engage the use of >Epilogue and Prologue. No, there's not, but it's possible to run the prologue from the PostScript of the incoming job with: (Xtras/High_End/Prologue.ps) run That's assuming that you haven't copied it up a couple of directories and enabled it. I have a PPD which uses this technique, coupled with setdistillerparams to allow me to generate PDFs suitable for WWW and graphic arts work under PPD control. The downside is, of course, that the prologue won't be loaded unless I use this PPD because it's not enabled in the Job Options dialog in Distiller. >In addition, I have inadvertently been Distilling files >while moving only the Prologue to the same folder as Distiller, and not >Epilogue. I have not had any errors or warnings posted, and in addition my >spot colors are showing properly in the PDF file, is this dangerous? Any >thoughts? It's not dangerous. Epilogue just closes a couple of dictionaries, but they would be closed automatically at the end of the job anyway. Regards Martin Bailey Harlequin Ltd ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 27-May-1998 10:41:52-GMT,3753;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA19192 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 04:41:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA19992; Wed, 27 May 1998 05:18:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 May 1998 05:15:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19888; Wed, 27 May 1998 05:15:35 -0500 Message-ID: <356BDA0E.71238126@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 20:17:06 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Weirdness in Reader et al. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Firstly A big thank you to everyone who has responded to me on this thread. All of your comments have been helpful and to the point. Love this list! FWIW I arrived with some bottom line info: 1: "Bad Parameters" error between PDF's There is a documented bug in Exchange and Reader which was causing my problems of "Bad Parameters" Essentially you cannot ask Exchange / Reader to open a single page pdf (menu screen) in Continuous Page view by a Form tool, IF the file you are creating the Form button in is a multi page pdf. (authored paper) i.e.. Exchange / Reader spits the dummy on the logic when asked to open the other single page file in Continuos Page View. Interestingly the Form link does initially work from the 1st or 2nd page of the pdf, but after then the error "Bad Parameter" kicks in on subsequent duplicated form buttons. The answer is to NEVER use Continuous Page view in the target pdf view. Adobe tech support say it has been noted and will be dealt with. 2: Rdr/ Ex refuses to let go of Full screen mode Adobe say no one has ever previously noted the reluctance of Exch /Rdr to "let go" of Full Screen mode when linking between PDF's, ( I thought this would be a fairly common problem) They say they have no reason why it shouldn't ... but it doesnt and they will add it to the list BUT THEN ... Tracie DeVoe provided a sensational work around. If the previous document is in full screen mode Rdr/Exch stays that way until taken out, so leave the 1st pdf set to open in full screen mode, then use the Form tool to add TWO actions. Firstly, add Menu Item>View Full Screen which actually TOGGLES between views, which reverses the current view. So Acrobat releases Full screen view just before the second action which is File Open>... set the second document to open however you want. Thanks Tracie, You get my Edward De Bono Award for lateral thinking for the month! I have tested the procedure as Tracie suggested and it works fine on the PC in Exch/Rdr. On the Mac I get an ugly "flashing as it changes views, but damm it works! Also Tracie you are correct, Exchange doesn't let you change pages in the Form tool when using Go To View, you need to use the File Open.. Don't know why...? Thanks a million once again to all other listoids who have helped me on this thread. Dean ( Back from the Twilght Zone! ) Laffan Real World Productions ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 27-May-1998 10:42:33-GMT,4487;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA19206 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 04:42:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA20028; Wed, 27 May 1998 05:19:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 May 1998 05:17:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19946; Wed, 27 May 1998 05:17:40 -0500 Message-ID: <356BDAB1.F4724431@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 20:19:50 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Acrobat search from CD Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3837BF97A07A3C163AF77128" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --------------3837BF97A07A3C163AF77128 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Simon Longstaff wrote: Further to Kevin Forbes question, we wish to be able to auto unload an index and load another without the default index ever appearing and with out quitting exchange. Can anybody help me with this one. Hi Simon I haven't had time to check this with a test file but my understanding is that you can only auto attach one index per pdf, (without code). But if you are moving from one to another pdf you can specify a different index for the second pdf. >From memory, both Exchange and Reader should keep both indexes open so you can search all indexes for a query. (someone correct me if I'm wrong!) Is there a reason why you need to close the first index before opening the second ? Finally I recall that we found a bug in the edition Reader 3.0 (Not 3.01) which would not auto attach indexes as it should. Upgrading the installer t 3.01 fixed the problem, but if you have Exchange 3.0 the accompanying Reader+Search install files may show the same bug under Win95. Hope this helps ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On a separate note can anyone on the list offer a reason as to why you would ever supply the Reader installer WITHOUT Search? Even if your project didn't need it, they may need it for the next project. Or is there some issue of which I am ignorant. Dean Laffan Real World Productions --------------3837BF97A07A3C163AF77128 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Simon Longstaff wrote:

Further to Kevin Forbes question, we wish to be able to auto unload an
index and load another without the default index ever appearing and with
out quitting exchange.

Can anybody help me with this one.
 
 

Hi Simon

I haven't had time to check this with a test file but my understanding is that you can only auto attach one index per pdf, (without code). But if you are moving from one to another pdf you can specify a different index for the second pdf.

From memory, both Exchange and Reader should keep both indexes open so you can search all indexes for a query. (someone correct me if I'm wrong!)

Is there a reason why you need to close the first index before opening the second ?

Finally I recall that we found a bug in the edition Reader 3.0 (Not 3.01)  which would not auto attach indexes as it should. Upgrading the installer t 3.01 fixed the problem, but if you have Exchange 3.0 the accompanying Reader+Search install files may show the same bug under Win95.

Hope this helps


On a separate note can anyone on the list offer a reason as to why you would ever supply the Reader installer WITHOUT Search? Even if your project didn't need it, they may need it for the next project. Or is there some issue of which I am ignorant.
 

Dean Laffan
Real World Productions
 
      --------------3837BF97A07A3C163AF77128-- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 27-May-1998 19:14:02-GMT,2046;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04719 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 13:14:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08851; Wed, 27 May 1998 13:50:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 May 1998 13:42:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08337; Wed, 27 May 1998 13:42:44 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:47:37 -0400 From: Melissa Sloan To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] catalog questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi. I'm working on creating a virtual library of several documents (with Adobe Acrobat catalog and exchange) I would like to be able to be able to perform a search on the entire document but when the results come up, rather than viewing the entire document, I would like to be able to view only the abstract of that document. In other words, when a person performs a key word search from the home page of our library, they will not be able to view the entire document (without ordering it), but the abstract will come up. I've set up a preliminary library but I can't figure out how to search an entire document without showing it. I've tried putting a password on the file to open it but then I've found that it is not searchable. I'm new at this and trying to learn. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated? Thank you, Melissa ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 27-May-1998 19:49:18-GMT,2319;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05562 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 13:49:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA10526; Wed, 27 May 1998 14:19:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 May 1998 14:16:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10379; Wed, 27 May 1998 14:16:42 -0500 Message-ID: <356C668A.7EA73A04@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:16:26 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] catalog questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Melissa Sloan wrote: > > Hi. I'm working on creating a virtual library of several documents > (with Adobe Acrobat catalog and exchange) I would like to be > able to be able to perform a search on the entire document but > when the results come up, rather than viewing the entire > document, I would like to be able to view only the abstract of that > document. In other words, when a person performs a key word > search from the home page of our library, they will not be able to > view the entire document (without ordering it), but the abstract > will come up. Right, it's not really *designed* to work that way. You *might* be able to fool the search engine by indexing the full-text documents, and then substituting in their place PDF files containing only the abstracts, but each with links to their corresponding full-text PDF, which would presumably be stored in an alternate location. Of course, that's hackery. It could break things. Test thoroughly. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 2:44:52-GMT,1671;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15340 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 20:44:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA30012; Wed, 27 May 1998 21:26:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 May 1998 21:22:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29868; Wed, 27 May 1998 21:22:43 -0500 From: DogwoodRec@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 22:21:31 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Question about link problem Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm having a problem with the links I program transferring to other machines. The links work, but my preferences for the links are not always carrying over. Example: I have all my links set to inset. They all inset on my computer. When I put the file to Zip disc and read it on another computer some, not all, the links will invert rather than inset. Any ideas?? HELP! I need to produce CD's of this file tomorrow!!! Thanks Heather ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 4:42:23-GMT,1470;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17615 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 22:42:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA01056; Wed, 27 May 1998 23:25:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 May 1998 23:22:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00942; Wed, 27 May 1998 23:22:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 23:22:52 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Brian Phelps Subject: [PDF] Lost Color Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am converting a FrameMaker 5.5 file to PDF. The master page contains a color Postscript image which, upon conversion to PDF, loses its color. Any suggestions about what I am doing wrong? -- Brian Phelps Charles Schwab/SITE Product Support Technical Documentation ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 5:08:35-GMT,1776;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18156 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 23:08:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA01979; Wed, 27 May 1998 23:54:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 May 1998 23:52:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01892; Wed, 27 May 1998 23:52:21 -0500 From: Joe.Cincotta@eurorscg.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: EURORSCG_SYD To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <4A256612.001B4EA2.00@Sydney2> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:59:08 +1000 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for May-26-98 [V2 #229] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Joe Cincotta@EURORSCG_SYD on 28/05/98 02:59 Hi, I am in the process of turning a number of 4 color brochures into PDF format for distribution on the Web. These brochures were originally created in QuarkXpress and the majority of them have imported EPS files with clipping paths. When I make the Acrobat files the resultant file does not seem to recognize the clipping path and as a result the image is displayed in its entirety. Is there anyway to make Acrobat recognize Clipping Paths in Photoshop EPS's? thanks Joe Cincotta Euro RSCG ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 6:03:50-GMT,2605;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19422 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:03:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA03761; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:49:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 00:46:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03661; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:45:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199805280547.WAA05197@slovakia.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 22:46:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for May-26-98 [V2 #229] From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Hi, > >I am in the process of turning a number of 4 color brochures into PDF >format for distribution on the Web. These brochures were originally created >in QuarkXpress and the majority of them have imported EPS files with >clipping paths. > >When I make the Acrobat files the resultant file does not seem to recognize >the clipping path and as a result the image is displayed in its entirety. > >Is there anyway to make Acrobat recognize Clipping Paths in Photoshop >EPS's? > >thanks >Joe Cincotta >Euro RSCG I make PDF files from Quark that have imported eps files (with Photoshop clipping paths) all of the time and it works consistently - the way you probably expect. One example is available online (http://www.performancegraphics.com/Media/portad6.pdf). If I use 72dpi compression settings, the bitmap component of the image is soft, but the clip path is always perfectly smooth. The main question is "how are you creating your PDFs?" If you are using PDFWriter, you are not going to be able to process EPS images correctly. The only consistent method is to use Distiller to convert to PDF. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 8:49:13-GMT,2620;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11367 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 02:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA08385; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:40:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 03:37:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08286; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:37:50 -0500 Message-ID: <356D22BA.E32FC349@empa.ch> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:39:28 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for May-26-98 [V2 #229] References: <4A256612.001B4EA2.00@Sydney2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I did tests with clipping pathes coming from Photoshop, which where placed in QuarkXPress. These clipping pathes worked without any problems in Acrobat too. I think your problem isn't a PDF problem. Maybe you created your PDF with the PDFWriter. Try to create a Postscript file and use Distiller to create the PDF file. I think that helps. Erwin Joe.Cincotta@eurorscg.com.au wrote: > From: Joe Cincotta@EURORSCG_SYD on 28/05/98 02:59 > > Hi, > > I am in the process of turning a number of 4 color brochures into PDF > format for distribution on the Web. These brochures were originally created > in QuarkXpress and the majority of them have imported EPS files with > clipping paths. > > When I make the Acrobat files the resultant file does not seem to recognize > the clipping path and as a result the image is displayed in its entirety. > > Is there anyway to make Acrobat recognize Clipping Paths in Photoshop > EPS's? > > thanks > Joe Cincotta > Euro RSCG > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 8:49:14-GMT,2151;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11379 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 02:49:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA08234; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:35:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 03:32:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08114; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:32:26 -0500 Message-ID: <356D2179.420E92CB@empa.ch> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:34:06 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Lost Color References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >From reading this list I think that problem is connected with the printer driver you used to generate your PosScript file. You probably took a printer driver for a black/white printer. Please check that. Erwin Brian Phelps wrote: > I am converting a FrameMaker 5.5 file to PDF. The master page contains a > color Postscript image which, upon conversion to PDF, loses its color. > > Any suggestions about what I am doing wrong? > > -- > > Brian Phelps > Charles Schwab/SITE Product Support > Technical Documentation > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 10:38:43-GMT,2105;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14079 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 04:38:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA10945; Thu, 28 May 1998 05:21:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 05:19:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10874; Thu, 28 May 1998 05:19:16 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for May-26-98 [V2 #229] Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:34:28 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd8a21$f1d27f60$30f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4A256612.001B4EA2.00@Sydney2> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I am in the process of turning a number of 4 color brochures into PDF > format for distribution on the Web. These brochures were > originally created > in QuarkXpress and the majority of them have imported EPS files with > clipping paths. > > When I make the Acrobat files the resultant file does not > seem to recognize > the clipping path and as a result the image is displayed in > its entirety. > > Is there anyway to make Acrobat recognize Clipping Paths in Photoshop > EPS's? My first guess is that you are using PDFWriter. DON'T! It is unsuitable for EPS and unsuitable for QuarkXPress, so you lose on two counts. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 12:19:27-GMT,2025;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16559 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:19:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA13688; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:57:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 06:54:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13576; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:54:29 -0500 Message-ID: <356D5064.2B369003@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 07:54:12 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Question about link problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 DogwoodRec@aol.com wrote: > > I'm having a problem with the links I program transferring to other machines. > > The links work, but my preferences for the links are not always carrying over. > Example: I have all my links set to inset. They all inset on my computer. > When I put the file to Zip disc and read it on another computer some, not all, > the links will invert rather than inset. Any ideas?? > > HELP! I need to produce CD's of this file tomorrow!!! The "inset" widgets were new with Reader 3.0. Are you sure that the other computer has 3.0 installed? If not (i.e., it has 2.1 installed), it makes sense that it might use "invert" instead. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 12:31:48-GMT,1745;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16909 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:31:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA14664; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:21:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 07:18:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14563; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:18:43 -0500 Message-ID: <19980528121830.26175.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [208.255.159.97] From: "Bill Leslie" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: HPPCL to PS or PDF Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 05:18:30 PDT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm sure this question has been asked before but I don't rememeber what the answer was: Does anybody know of a utility to convert HPPCL (Hewlett-Packard Page Contol Language) to PostScript or PDF? TIA, Bill Leslie Computer Services ------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Leslie My opinions are my own and Kinko's RTP do not reflect those of my 4900 NC Highway 55 employer Durham, NC 27713 919-405-1800 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 12:24:06-GMT,2619;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16691 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:24:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA14541; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:18:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 07:10:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14232; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:10:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 07:11:33 -0500 To: "PDF Mailing List - commercial" From: "David Cornwell" Subject: [PDF-ANC] MS Word --> PDF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA14229 Sender: owner-pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: "David Cornwell" X-Sender: Emerge PDFzone 800-829-2459 ======================== IMPORTANT INFO ============================ Please reply DIRECTLY to the sender, *not* to the list address Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Send questions or feedback to: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com ==================================================================== Computerised Document Control Ltd is pleased to announce that Local Render version 1.1 has entered its Beta program. 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You can find more information regarding the PCL to PDF conversion in the following web sites. http://www.gentext.com http://www.gaczi.com/welcome.html#P5 Warm regards from HOT (105F) Chennai. 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They all inset on my computer. > When I put the file to Zip disc and read it on another computer some, not all, > the links will invert rather than inset. Any ideas?? > > HELP! I need to produce CD's of this file tomorrow!!! The "inset" widgets were new with Reader 3.0. Are you sure that the other computer has 3.0 installed? If not (i.e., it has 2.1 installed), it makes sense that it might use "invert" instead. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group >> Not the case - the problem is that SOME of the links inset as they should, and some invert for no particular reason. But, hey! That was a good suggestion. Thanks for you reply! ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 15:23:19-GMT,2492;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22777 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:23:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA23215; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:06:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 10:04:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23115; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:04:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: Shoaib Anwar To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: HPPCL to PS or PDF Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:03:32 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Try Gentext or Xenox Group you will find them on the Web. >-----Original Message----- >From: Bill Leslie [SMTP:billleslie@hotmail.com] >Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 1:19 PM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Re: HPPCL to PS or PDF > > >I'm sure this question has been asked before but I don't rememeber what >the answer was: Does anybody know of a utility to convert HPPCL >(Hewlett-Packard Page Contol Language) to PostScript or PDF? > >TIA, >Bill Leslie >Computer Services > >------------------------------------------------------------- >Bill Leslie My opinions are my own and >Kinko's RTP do not reflect those of my >4900 NC Highway 55 employer >Durham, NC 27713 >919-405-1800 > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 15:23:36-GMT,2350;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22797 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:23:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA23161; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:05:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 10:02:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23005; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:02:10 -0500 Message-ID: <356D7C61.1C4749DB@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 11:01:53 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Question about link problem References: <2449b3c6.356d7129@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 DogwoodRec@aol.com wrote: > > > I'm having a problem with the links I program transferring to other > > > machines. > > > > > > The links work, but my preferences for the links are not always carrying > > > over. Example: I have all my links set to inset. They all inset on my > > > computer. > > > > The "inset" widgets were new with Reader 3.0. Are you sure that the other > > computer has 3.0 installed? If not (i.e., it has 2.1 installed), it makes > > sense that it might use "invert" instead. > > Not the case - the problem is that SOME of the links inset as they should, > and some invert for no particular reason. OK, maybe some of them are link objects (made with link tool) and some of them are form fields with associated link actions (made with forms tool)? The problem computer may not have the forms filler plug-in, or the newest version, or something. In general, a transportability issue like this should really only be due to a software mismatch of some type. 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Abuse of the lists will result in removal, at the listowner's discretion. tks ~ Kurt ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- "Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * PDF lists: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html * PDFzone EXTRA: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars -30- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 19:29:56-GMT,1874;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01556 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:29:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02587; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:53:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 13:46:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02269; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:46:32 -0500 From: jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENSORIUM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <86256612.0066F932.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:44:44 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Distiller workflow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would like to set up a network "print to PS" printer. I want the files to go to a watched folder, and I want Distiller to automatically process the files to PDF. This will be set up on an NT Server. My problem is: I print to file using the Tecktronics Phaser 550J driver the files do not get the ".ps" filetype extension. Without the .ps file type, Distiller cannot automatically process them. What is the best way to deal with this problem? Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software 312.786.1330 x515 312.786.1324 fax 1353 South Wabash Avenue Chicago, Illinois 60605 jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 19:43:37-GMT,2723;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01833 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:43:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04378; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:26:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 14:23:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04195; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:23:52 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980528191851.00d6ecd4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:18:51 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller workflow Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Are you sure that you have a problem? I can print to a logical PostScript printer, and direct the output (PRN) file to the .IN folder of a watched directory on an NT4 server. Distiller (Version 3.02) running on that server is quite happy to gobble up the .PRN file and produce the .PDF in the OUT folder. The only time the .PS extension is really required is when you want to double-click on the printer's output filename to launch the Distiller program. Tom Thiersch At 01:44 PM 5/28/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I would like to set up a network "print to PS" printer. I want the files to >go to a watched folder, and I >want Distiller to automatically process the files to PDF. This will be set >up on an NT Server. > >My problem is: I print to file using the Tecktronics Phaser 550J driver the >files do not get the ".ps" filetype extension. Without the .ps file type, >Distiller cannot automatically process them. What is the best way to deal >with this problem? > >Jeremy Treister > > Sensorium Software > 312.786.1330 x515 > 312.786.1324 fax > > 1353 South Wabash Avenue > Chicago, Illinois 60605 > >jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com > > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 19:50:30-GMT,3302;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01947 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA05067; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:37:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 14:35:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04862; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:35:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3F07D6D3DD23D111BC0500805F31F81EFCA370@N1010SMX> From: "Phelps, Brian" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller workflow Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:33:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a particular reason you are using the TekTronics print driver? Why not use Adobe's generic Postscript driver instead? I find this works fine for all kinds of output. Brian T. Phelps brian.phelps@schwab.com (415) 667-0329 Technical Documentation SITE Product Support "...choose you this day whom ye will serve... but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD." Joshua 24:15 [The following notice is required on all out-going email:] ==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-- ==--==--==-- > Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the > Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. corporate e-mail system and is subject to > archive and review by someone other than the recipient > ==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--== > --==--==--==-- > . > > ---------- > From: > jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com[SMTP:jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 11:44 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Distiller workflow > > > I would like to set up a network "print to PS" printer. I want the > files to > go to a watched folder, and I > want Distiller to automatically process the files to PDF. This will be > set > up on an NT Server. > > My problem is: I print to file using the Tecktronics Phaser 550J > driver the > files do not get the ".ps" filetype extension. Without the .ps file > type, > Distiller cannot automatically process them. What is the best way to > deal > with this problem? > > Jeremy Treister > > Sensorium Software > 312.786.1330 x515 > 312.786.1324 fax > > 1353 South Wabash Avenue > Chicago, Illinois 60605 > > jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 20:13:56-GMT,1435;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02474 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:13:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA06036; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:56:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 14:53:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05893; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:53:26 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199805281953.AA03636@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Thu, 28 May 98 15:18:57 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] print without viewing? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know of a way to have a link on one .pdf cause another .pdf to print? The second file should NOT open. stumped, Corbin csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 21:26:33-GMT,2151;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04356 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:26:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA09234; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:03:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 16:00:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09065; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:00:24 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller workflow Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:12:29 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bd8a7b$7b3dcc60$c1f582c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <86256612.0066F932.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > > I would like to set up a network "print to PS" printer. I > want the files to > go to a watched folder, and I > want Distiller to automatically process the files to PDF. > This will be set > up on an NT Server. Check the terms of the Acrobat license carefully if you are not planning to buy Acrobat for each seat - this usage may not be allowed. > > My problem is: I print to file using the Tecktronics Phaser > 550J driver the > files do not get the ".ps" filetype extension. Without the > .ps file type, > Distiller cannot automatically process them. What is the best > way to deal > with this problem? Put the file names in quotes "file.ps" - that often works. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-1998 23:44:03-GMT,2725;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07727 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:44:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA15225; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:29:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 18:26:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15101; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:26:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199805282326.QAA25055@mail-gw3.pacbell.net> X-Sender: zsoos@pacbell.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1.334 (Beta) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:24:25 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Zoltan Soos Subject: Re: [PDF] HPPCL to PS or PDF In-Reply-To: <01BD8A8D.0864FDA0@notino.visual.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All, FYI, no recommendations: I just got a mail about PCLTools SDK from Page Technology Marketing, www.pcltools.com, has pcl2pdf and pcl2tiff batch converters. Zoltan At 5/28/98, you wrote: >For converting LaserJet PCL to PDF please take a look >at Visual Software's Pcl2pdf program, does just what you're >after (but not yet HP-GL/2)... At:- > > http://www.visual.co.uk > >Best regards, Neil Geddes >Visual Software >geddes@visual.co.uk > > >---------- >From: pdf-digest[SMTP:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] >Sent: Thursday 28 May 1998 20:23 >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: pdf-digest for May-28-98 [V2 #231] > > >I'm sure this question has been asked before but I don't rememeber what >the answer was: Does anybody know of a utility to convert HPPCL >(Hewlett-Packard Page Contol Language) to PostScript or PDF? > >TIA, >Bill Leslie >Computer Services > >- ------------------------------------------------------------- >Bill Leslie My opinions are my own and >Kinko's RTP do not reflect those of my >4900 NC Highway 55 employer >Durham, NC 27713 >919-405-1800 > > ----------------------------------------------------------- Zoltan Soos ELAN GMK 2346 Bigelow Ave. Simi Valley, CA 93065, USA Tel:(805)577-0288 Fax:(805)577-0473 ----------------------------------------------------------- mailto:zsoos@elan-gmk.com http://elan-gmk.com http://pixedit.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 2:56:31-GMT,2148;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11726 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:56:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA21264; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:39:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 21:36:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21162; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:36:06 -0500 Message-ID: <4B120CB42C94D011811F00A0C92B61B50106068B@hoexchange> From: Angus Howard To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 12:35:39 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear List, I am trying to link (via. hyperlinks/internal hyperlinks) between one pdf file to another pdf file within the one Reader Window. I saw these being done on a CD where by you started Acrobat Reader on a contents page clicked through the document and moved from one pdf file to another. When you wanted to print out one of their page they gave you a separate pdf with no navigational objects at the top of the page. I have been trying to get this to work with PageMaker 6.52 and Distiller 3.0 but have had no success. I have only been able to set up hyperlinks within a 'single pdf' file or to a url but not to another pdf file. I would really like to able to do this but have had no luck searching help file or the web. Any comments or solutions to my query will be much appreciated. I will sum.... Regards, Angus Howard GIS Officer Redland Shire Council ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 3:03:21-GMT,1825;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11855 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:03:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA21802; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:54:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 21:51:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21671; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:51:44 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD8AEF.BE938E40@min.minmet.com.au> From: Min Chen To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Named Destination does not work in IE4? Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:51:32 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA21668 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi everyone, I have created named destination in a pdf files, and created a link in html like this:

  • Page3

    , It works fine within Netscape 3.0. However It always loads first page in IE4. If I test from my local hard disk not from server, IE4 does not even load first page, instead give errro says cannot find file: ......test.pdf#page3, it treated test.pdf#page3 as a file. Again, it works in netscape. Any ideas? Thanks in advance min ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 3:06:53-GMT,3102;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11934 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:06:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA21868; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:55:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 May 1998 21:53:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21744; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:53:13 -0500 Message-ID: <356E2329.11828A8B@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:53:30 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller workflow References: <86256612.0066F932.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA21741 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Select another color PS printer like the Apple 12/600 color laserwriter. This PPD and others are on the NT disk that comes with the computer. Once that is selected, you should have no problems writing to a watched folder. Adobe still has not put together a decent Adobe Distiller Print Driver like the one that run on 95. To me, this is inexecusable but this workaround does work. HTH Bob Moran jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com wrote: > I would like to set up a network "print to PS" printer. I want the files to > go to a watched folder, and I > want Distiller to automatically process the files to PDF. This will be set > up on an NT Server. > > My problem is: I print to file using the Tecktronics Phaser 550J driver the > files do not get the ".ps" filetype extension. Without the .ps file type, > Distiller cannot automatically process them. What is the best way to deal > with this problem? > > Jeremy Treister > > Sensorium Software > 312.786.1330 x515 > 312.786.1324 fax > > 1353 South Wabash Avenue > Chicago, Illinois 60605 > > jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 6:01:09-GMT,1866;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15154 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:01:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA26801; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:40:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 May 1998 00:37:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26683; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:37:01 -0500 Message-ID: <356E582E.6AD6294B@pgc1.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 01:39:43 -0500 From: Michael Conchola Organization: Precision Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] searchable PDF's References: <4B120CB42C94D011811F00A0C92B61B50106068B@hoexchange> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Hello PDF Zone participants... I have a question. I am currently receiving files from a scanner that is producing full page scans and saved as PDF's. I am producing interactive PDF files from these scans. Is there any way to make them searchable? I understand that they are image scans produced from Xerox image scanners although I was wondering if there is a way to make them word searchable. Thanks for the help Mike Reply to mikec@pgc1.com Thanks again > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 11:42:40-GMT,1909;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11729 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 05:42:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA02826; Fri, 29 May 1998 06:25:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 May 1998 06:19:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02632; Fri, 29 May 1998 06:19:42 -0500 Message-ID: <356E99C0.E578BD88@beacon.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 07:19:28 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] searchable PDF's References: <4B120CB42C94D011811F00A0C92B61B50106068B@hoexchange> <356E582E.6AD6294B@pgc1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Michael Conchola wrote: > > I have a question. I am currently receiving files from a scanner that is > producing full page scans and saved as PDF's. I am producing interactive > PDF files from these scans. Is there any way to make them searchable? I > understand that they are image scans produced from Xerox image scanners > although I was wondering if there is a way to make them word searchable. You need to look at the built-in Capture function in Exchange. It does OCR on the scanned image. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 14:13:34-GMT,2044;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16485 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:13:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA08154; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:48:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 May 1998 08:43:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07857; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:43:51 -0500 Message-ID: <356EBBF3.5678@pre-print.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 07:45:27 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] HPPCL to PS or PDF References: <01BD8A8D.0864FDA0@notino.visual.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Neil J. Geddes wrote: > > For converting LaserJet PCL to PDF please take a look > at Visual Software's Pcl2pdf program, does just what you're > after (but not yet HP-GL/2)... At:- > > http://www.visual.co.uk > > Best regards, Neil Geddes > Visual Software > geddes@visual.co.uk > OK, Neil, we get the message. This is about the 4th iteration of your self-promotion in the past six communiques. Control yourself, sir. If you've got a good product, I'm quite sure it will sell like hotcakes. -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 14:22:52-GMT,1825;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16791 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:22:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA09038; Fri, 29 May 1998 09:09:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 May 1998 09:06:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08893; Fri, 29 May 1998 09:06:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980529071129.007e0380@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 07:11:29 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: [PDF] AutoRotatePage Distiller Parm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Using Dist. 3.02, Frame 5.1.2 on Win 95, I have a distiller startup file that sets my parameters automatically. In this file, I have the auto rotate parameter set (/AutoRotatePage true). When I select Generate Acrobat Data in the Print box in Frame, Distiller doesn't rotate my landscape pages. However, when I deselect the Generate Acrobat Data, Distiller correctly rotates the landscape pages. Any thoughts? I've even looked at the PS files and can't find any differences with respect to viewer orientation. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 15:06:53-GMT,2326;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18434 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 09:06:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA10567; Fri, 29 May 1998 09:43:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 May 1998 09:40:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10434; Fri, 29 May 1998 09:40:34 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980529144005.00d10750@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 07:40:05 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] AutoRotatePage Distiller Parm Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It's a documentation bug. Refer to Adobe tech article #135306. The value you want is: "/AutoRotatePage /All". The other valid parms are: "/None" and "/PageByPage" Tom Thiersch At 07:11 AM 5/29/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Using Dist. 3.02, Frame 5.1.2 on Win 95, I have a distiller startup file >that sets my parameters automatically. In this file, I have the auto rotate >parameter set (/AutoRotatePage true). > >When I select Generate Acrobat Data in the Print box in Frame, Distiller >doesn't rotate my landscape pages. However, when I deselect the Generate >Acrobat Data, Distiller correctly rotates the landscape pages. > >Any thoughts? I've even looked at the PS files and can't find any >differences with respect to viewer orientation. >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 15:28:05-GMT,2946;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19401 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 09:28:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA12027; Fri, 29 May 1998 10:14:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 May 1998 10:11:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11907; Fri, 29 May 1998 10:11:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980529081618.007d39c0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:16:18 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] AutoRotatePage Distiller Parm In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980529144005.00d10750@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks for the info Tom, I've updated my doc. However, I tried both /All and /PageByPage and still got the same results as when it was set to "True." Any other ideas out there? At 07:40 AM 5/29/98 -0700, you wrote: > >It's a documentation bug. Refer to Adobe tech article #135306. > >The value you want is: "/AutoRotatePage /All". > >The other valid parms are: "/None" and "/PageByPage" > >Tom Thiersch > >At 07:11 AM 5/29/98 -0700, you wrote: >> >>Using Dist. 3.02, Frame 5.1.2 on Win 95, I have a distiller startup file >>that sets my parameters automatically. In this file, I have the auto rotate >>parameter set (/AutoRotatePage true). >> >>When I select Generate Acrobat Data in the Print box in Frame, Distiller >>doesn't rotate my landscape pages. However, when I deselect the Generate >>Acrobat Data, Distiller correctly rotates the landscape pages. >> >>Any thoughts? I've even looked at the PS files and can't find any >>differences with respect to viewer orientation. >>===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >>For more info: John Cook >>List-related questions: >>Sub/Unsub: >>--------------------------------------------------------- >> > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 17:40:49-GMT,3588;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24492 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:40:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17426; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:19:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 May 1998 12:15:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17261; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:15:57 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980529171532.00d73bb4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:15:32 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] AutoRotatePage Distiller Parm Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just noticed that your original note, and hence my reply, both contain a typo. The *correct* spelling of the setting is: /AutoRotatePages not /AutoRotatePage There's also a secondary bug here, since Distiller is supposed to complain when it sees an invalid parameter but doesn't in this case (contrary to the info given in article #135306.) Tom Thiersch At 08:16 AM 5/29/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Thanks for the info Tom, I've updated my doc. However, I tried both /All >and /PageByPage and still got the same results as when it was set to "True." > >Any other ideas out there? > >At 07:40 AM 5/29/98 -0700, you wrote: >> >>It's a documentation bug. Refer to Adobe tech article #135306. >> >>The value you want is: "/AutoRotatePage /All". >> >>The other valid parms are: "/None" and "/PageByPage" >> >>Tom Thiersch >> >>At 07:11 AM 5/29/98 -0700, you wrote: >>> >>>Using Dist. 3.02, Frame 5.1.2 on Win 95, I have a distiller startup file >>>that sets my parameters automatically. In this file, I have the auto rotate >>>parameter set (/AutoRotatePage true). >>> >>>When I select Generate Acrobat Data in the Print box in Frame, Distiller >>>doesn't rotate my landscape pages. However, when I deselect the Generate >>>Acrobat Data, Distiller correctly rotates the landscape pages. >>> >>>Any thoughts? I've even looked at the PS files and can't find any >>>differences with respect to viewer orientation. >>>===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >>>For more info: John Cook >>>List-related questions: >>>Sub/Unsub: >>>--------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >>===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >>For more info: John Cook >>List-related questions: >>Sub/Unsub: >>--------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 21:43:17-GMT,2671;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03383 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 15:43:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA27333; Fri, 29 May 1998 16:26:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 May 1998 16:21:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27049; Fri, 29 May 1998 16:21:38 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A607FA@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] searchable PDF's Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 14:35:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is the time you need either the Capture plug-in with Acrobat Exchange 3.01 or the full Capture 2.0x. Since you receive the image files in PDF format, I cannot think of any other OCR tool that can handle your images. Regards Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging Developer of PageGenie: The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR. http://www.pagegenie.com > ---------- > From: Michael Conchola[SMTP:mikec@pgc1.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 11:39 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] searchable PDF's > > > > Hello PDF Zone participants... > > I have a question. I am currently receiving files from a scanner that > is > producing full page scans and saved as PDF's. I am producing > interactive > PDF files from these scans. Is there any way to make them searchable? > I > understand that they are image scans produced from Xerox image > scanners > although I was wondering if there is a way to make them word > searchable. > Thanks for the help > > Mike > > > Reply to mikec@pgc1.com > > Thanks again > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 22:29:37-GMT,1960;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04420 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 16:29:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29731; Fri, 29 May 1998 17:16:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 May 1998 17:12:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29538; Fri, 29 May 1998 17:12:12 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980529161215.007a1890@isp.incc.net> X-Sender: mjohnsto@isp.incc.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 16:12:15 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Marcus Johnstone " Subject: [PDF] Launching Fullscreen Acrobat Reader from a webpage? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greetings! Maybe someone here can give me an answer to this... I have a link on my website referring to a multi-page PDF file, which opens fine within the confines of the browser. What I'd like to do is have this document automatically displayed in Acrobat Reader itself in fullscreen mode (no toolbars or anything), instead of within the browser. The PDF file essentially is an informational slideshow I'd like users to click through page by page. Is there a command I can add to the URL tag which accomplishes this? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Marcus marcus.johnstone@isp.incc.net ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-1998 22:55:06-GMT,2523;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04988 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 16:55:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA30642; Fri, 29 May 1998 17:40:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 May 1998 17:37:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA30488; Fri, 29 May 1998 17:37:12 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980529153415.008a4690@pophost.pdxuxbre.lmc.com> X-Sender: jonw@pophost.pdxuxbre.lmc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 15:34:15 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jon White Subject: Re: [PDF] Named Destination does not work in IE4? In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980529152158.007db3b0@pophost.pdxuxbre.lmc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've run the same test and come to the same conclusion. Jumping from HTML to a PDF named destination is Netscape functionality that is not supported by Internet Explorer. Furthermore, it works only when the Acrobat Reader is running as a Netscape plug-in and only when the named destination is specified by a /Dest pdfmark (rather than as a newlink hypertext marker in FrameMaker). Pretty limited usefulness, I'd say. Jon White Synopsys Logic Modeling At 03:21 PM 5/29/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:51:32 +0800 >From: Min Chen >Subject: [PDF] Named Destination does not work in IE4? > >Hi everyone, > >I have created named destination in a pdf files, and created a link in html >like this:

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    , It works >fine within Netscape 3.0. However It always loads first page in IE4. If I >test from my local hard disk not from server, IE4 does not even load first >page, instead give errro says cannot find file: ......test.pdf#page3, it >treated test.pdf#page3 as a file. Again, it works in netscape. Any ideas? >Thanks in advance > >min ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 31-May-1998 21:52:51-GMT,2225;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08033 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 15:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA06474; Sun, 31 May 1998 16:30:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 31 May 1998 16:21:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06068; Sun, 31 May 1998 16:21:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199805312121.QAA10974@glacier.binc.net> From: "Steve Derene" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 16:23:08 -600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Forms under Navigator X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01a) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ive been working on several versions of some forms: one as a straight PDF and one using the fill-in forms feature. Theres one form that I'm having a problem with: the fill-in form will not load under Netscape Navigator. The straight version loads fine; both versions work well when loading directly into Exchange, Reader or IE 3.02 (as a plug-in). But when trying to run the fill-in form as a browser plug-in under Navigator, it will not load. This is a 145k form. What happens is that the reader plug-in loads but the form cannot be properly read. After reading about 20-30% of the file, it returns to 0% read and the status bar message keeps cycling "Reading file ... Done" but it never fully loads. When I stop the loading, only a single "Note" icon appears, but nothing else. I've looked for "corrupt" fields, but since it works under IE, I figures it's something goofy with Navigator. Any advice, suggestions or comment? Thanks, Steve Derene ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: ---------------------------------------------------------