1-Jun-1998 12:07:23-GMT,3079;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11438 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:07:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA30115; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:44:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:42:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA30021; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:42:20 -0500 Message-ID: <357293AB.E40A393@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 07:42:35 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... References: <4B120CB42C94D011811F00A0C92B61B50106068B@hoexchange> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA30018 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Angus, the easy way to do it is to specify Open File and link to the file of choice. It works for me. HTH Bob Moran Angus Howard wrote: > Dear List, > > I am trying to link (via. hyperlinks/internal hyperlinks) between > one pdf file to another pdf file within the one Reader Window. > > I saw these being done on a CD where by you started Acrobat Reader > on a contents page clicked through the document and moved from one > pdf file to another. When you wanted to print out one of their page they > gave > you a separate pdf with no navigational objects at the top of the page. > > I have been trying to get this to work with PageMaker 6.52 and Distiller > 3.0 > but have had no success. I have only been able to set up hyperlinks > within > a 'single pdf' file or to a url but not to another pdf file. > > I would really like to able to do this but have had no luck searching > help file > or the web. > > Any comments or solutions to my query will be much appreciated. > > I will sum.... > > Regards, > > Angus Howard > GIS Officer > Redland Shire Council > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-1998 12:07:54-GMT,2865;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11449 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:07:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA30400; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:53:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:52:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA30354; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:52:14 -0500 Message-ID: <35729600.F55C96A@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 07:52:32 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] searchable PDF's References: <4B120CB42C94D011811F00A0C92B61B50106068B@hoexchange> <356E582E.6AD6294B@pgc1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA30351 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you have scanned the work in the recommended 300-600DP! for B&W or 200-400 for Color, bring the the PDF in Exchange & Capture the page. The OCR will convert the text into "real" pdf, thus making the files searchable when you Catalog them. HTH Bob Moran Michael Conchola wrote: > > Hello PDF Zone participants... > > I have a question. I am currently receiving files from a scanner that is > producing full page scans and saved as PDF's. I am producing interactive > PDF files from these scans. Is there any way to make them searchable? I > understand that they are image scans produced from Xerox image scanners > although I was wondering if there is a way to make them word searchable. > Thanks for the help > > Mike > > Reply to mikec@pgc1.com > > Thanks again > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-1998 12:44:49-GMT,1775;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA12089 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:44:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA30970; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:10:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:09:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30896; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:09:42 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:03:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd8d55$609117a0$e65895c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <357293AB.E40A393@kiwi.futuris.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Angus, the easy way to do it is to specify Open File and link > to the file of > choice. It works for me. HTH > > Bob Moran Although this mostly works, in my opinion it's the wrong way. I believe GO TO VIEW links should be used to link between PDF files, just as they are used to link within PDF files. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-1998 13:17:57-GMT,1924;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12693 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:17:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA00398; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 08:02:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 08:00:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00313; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 08:00:44 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980601085646.00908bd0@falcon> X-Sender: devries@falcon X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 08:56:46 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark DeVries Subject: Re: [PDF] Named Destination does not work in IE4? In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980529153415.008a4690@pophost.pdxuxbre.lmc.com> References: <3.0.2.32.19980529152158.007db3b0@pophost.pdxuxbre.lmc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 FWIW - jumping to a named destination _in a separate *HTML* document_ doesn't work within IE, either. It's not specific to PDF. In IE, named destination only works within the same document. That was quite a surprise, since we were jumping to named destinations in separate HTML documents with Netscape Navigator years ago. Yet another reason to Bill's Internet Virus (i.e., IE) off your desktop. :-) -Mark DeVries Xyvision, Inc. [ But what I said is not my employer's fault! :-) ] ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-1998 15:21:28-GMT,2446;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15238 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:21:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA05397; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:03:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:01:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05275; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:01:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3572C259.EA28DC7D@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 11:01:45 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... References: <000301bd8d55$609117a0$e65895c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA05272 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Go to View does work but I have found Open File to be more reialble for network use. RM Aandi Inston wrote: > > Angus, the easy way to do it is to specify Open File and link > > to the file of > > choice. It works for me. HTH > > > > Bob Moran > > Although this mostly works, in my opinion it's the wrong way. > I believe GO TO VIEW links should be used to link between PDF files, > just as they are used to link within PDF files. > > Aandi > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-1998 16:48:29-GMT,1710;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17568 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:48:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09449; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:28:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:25:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09357; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:25:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3572D693.3EB6E030@icg-sj.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 09:28:05 -0700 From: Mark Powell Organization: International Consulting Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Cropping even/odd pages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This has probably been asked before (apologies to you listserv veterans): Do anybody know of a tool that can crop odd or even pages only? Thanks. Mark _________________________________________________________ Mark Powell International Consulting Group 2021 The Alameda, Suite 220 San Jose, California 95126 408-247-7900 ext. 110 (voice) 408-247-8900 (fax) work: markp@icg-sj.com personal: powell@wordscapes.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-1998 18:46:49-GMT,2171;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20699 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA14361; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:21:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:18:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14222; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:18:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199806011818.UAA02322@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: [PDF] RE: Named Destination does not work in IE4? Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 20:18:12 +0200 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Min. As far as I know the following seems to be that case (on the win platform): Using Internet Explorer you need to have the 3.01 update of Acrobat Reader to be taken to a specific place in a document. Byteserving (on page at a time downloading) works with Reader 3.0, but you will only be taken to page One. Best Regards Richard Taubo Bergersen ltd. -- Oslo, Norway On Fri, 29 May 1998 10:51:32, Min wrote: >I have created named destination in a pdf files, and created a link in >html like this:
  • Page3

    , It >works fine within Netscape 3.0. However It always loads first page in IE4. >If I test from my local hard disk not from server, IE4 does not even load >first page, instead give errro says cannot find file: >......test.pdf#page3, it treated test.pdf#page3 as a file. Again, it works >in netscape. Any ideas? Thanks in advance ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-1998 19:44:33-GMT,1836;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22152 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:44:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA16868; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:22:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:20:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16695; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:19:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Cropping even/odd pages Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:16:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd8d92$274de580$895695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3572D693.3EB6E030@icg-sj.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In effect, Quite Imposing and Quite Imposing Plus will do this, though they call it "trimming" and will only do one edge at a time (for a range of pages, possibly even or odd). Aandi Inston Quite Software http://www.quite.com/ > > > This has probably been asked before (apologies to you > listserv veterans): Do > anybody know of a tool that can crop odd or even pages only? Thanks. > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-1998 20:30:29-GMT,1580;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23306 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:30:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19375; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:11:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:09:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19299; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:09:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199806012014.QAA10827@jupiter.netdepot.com> Subject: [PDF] Printing PDF over internet Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:13:40 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Net Depot To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello! We have a client who wants to warehouse their files on a central server in PDF form and allow their satellite offices to log in and print as many copies as they need, but not be able to download the PDF to keep it local. The obvious desire is to control the versioning of these files. Any immediate solutions jump to mind? Thanks! ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-1998 21:37:39-GMT,2846;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24957 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:37:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA21980; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:11:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:09:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21860; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:09:39 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing PDF over internet Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:08:40 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd8da1$78c6fdc0$895695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199806012014.QAA10827@jupiter.netdepot.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In theory, if a printer has TCP/IP protocol support, it can be printed to from a server anywhere in the world. Whether this is practical would depend on if the printers can do this, and whether (as one might rather hope) your client's firewall/internet security measures would prevent such a connection. Any web based solution would allow the files to be saved without much difficulty, though by use of custom security plug-ins you could control things very tightly. Aandi > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Net Depot > Sent: Monday, 1 June, 1998 22:14 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Printing PDF over internet > > > > Hello! > > We have a client who wants to warehouse their files on a > central server > in PDF form and allow their satellite offices to log in and > print as many > copies as they need, but not be able to download the PDF to keep it > local. The obvious desire is to control the versioning of these files. > > Any immediate solutions jump to mind? > > Thanks! > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-1998 22:50:48-GMT,2954;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26731 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:50:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA25285; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:31:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:29:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25178; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:29:37 -0500 Message-ID: <35732B5E.6E2C159D@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:29:50 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing PDF over internet References: <199806012014.QAA10827@jupiter.netdepot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA25175 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Having a Byte serving server connected to the web is a viable first step but the real question is what kind of database is being used and how is PDF integrated with it? As far as versioning goes, Catalog can deal with this if it is properly set up to monitoer the PDF's as they are processed from the database and put up on an intranet environment prior to placing the files on a Web server ready for the satellite offices to access. Sounds like this is a pretty complex project that requires some fairly sophisticated thought prior to putting the system online. HTH Bob Moran Net Depot wrote: > Hello! > > We have a client who wants to warehouse their files on a central server > in PDF form and allow their satellite offices to log in and print as many > copies as they need, but not be able to download the PDF to keep it > local. The obvious desire is to control the versioning of these files. > > Any immediate solutions jump to mind? > > Thanks! > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-1998 22:51:03-GMT,2614;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26739 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:51:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA25286; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:31:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:27:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25053; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:27:18 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing PDF over internet Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:27:03 +0100 Message-ID: <003801bd8dac$66b57020$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199806012014.QAA10827@jupiter.netdepot.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > We have a client who wants to warehouse their files on a central server > in PDF form and allow their satellite offices to log in and print as many > copies as they need, but not be able to download the PDF to keep it > local. The obvious desire is to control the versioning of these files. > I believe that our PDFcontrol product would achieve the same effect. We would have to download the file but the client plug-in will manage the process and not give the users access to it other than to print. Alternatively, if they are dead set against have the file downloaded and the local printer is available as a service on some from of network, our PDFfusion product could also work. Both product would provide the added value of being able to add information to the document as it was printed. check out: www.docctrl.com Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 1:22:02-GMT,2689;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00478 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:22:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA30181; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:01:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:00:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA30130; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:00:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:00:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199806020100.SAA07090@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 12:44:47-GMT,1813;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA12860 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 06:44:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA17554; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:12:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:10:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17447; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:10:49 -0500 From: baruch@mercury.co.il X-Lotus-Fromdomain: MERCURY_IL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:09:48 +0300 Subject: [PDF] Copying fields and links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I want to add navigation buttons (next page, previous page etc) to some of my pdfs. I initially created the buttons using the standard forms in Exchange, and then copied the buttons onto all the pages. It was great. Unfortunately, Catalog does not work after I added the buttons! I looked briefly into Ambia's Compose. It seems that the link copy tool may be perfect. Unfortunately, Compose costs a lot more than we want to spend. Can anyone suggest any other tools? PS. I am using Acrobat 3.01 on Windows 95. Thanks in advance Baruch Benatar baruch@mercury.co.il Mercury Interactive ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 13:12:50-GMT,5827;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13355 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:12:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA19127; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:48:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:47:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19075; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:47:35 -0500 Message-ID: <7117B762FB6ED11199AC00805FEFA09A0A4AA6@eshed_nt1.robotec.co.il> From: Lisa Mishli To: "'pdf-list'" Subject: [PDF] Text garbled when copied from Exchange Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:47:12 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <7117B762FB6ED11199AC00805FEFA09A0A4AA6@eshed_nt1.robotec.co.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD8E3D.B6CBA2F0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD8E3D.B6CBA2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have numerous documents which use TT Century Schoolbook as their primary font. I am able to produce and print PDF files with this font. However, when I attempt to Copy and Paste/Paste Special (into Word, for example) from these PDF files, all text in the Century Schoolbook font is garbled. Example below: 5RER&HOO=FDIRU=FD6&25%27=F0=FD(5=E9SF=FDZLOO=FDQRW=FDUXQ=FDRQ=FDWKH=FD:L= QGRZV=FD17 SODWIRUP=FDZKHQ=FDRSHUDWLQJ=FDRQ=FDOLQH=EF=FD,W=FDZLOO=FDUXQ=FDRQ=FD: Except for the basic Type 1 fonts included in the ATM, all fonts on my computer are TrueType. I have installed the Adobe PS printer driver PS4.23 and Acrobat Distiller 3.02. I have scoured this list's archives and the Adobe support site, and = have tried every possible combination in the Distiller Properties and Send Fonts As... dialog boxes. Should I simply reformat my original documents using the (reliable but boring) Times Roman font. Or is there a way to keep more pleasant and interesting fonts in my documents? Many thanks. 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References: <1315325843-99608097@completegroup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I do not know of a program to process quark files other than Quark. You may find it convenient to use one mac as a workstation and one as a server. Allocate a lot of RAM to Distiller and tell it to "watch" a folder on the server called "IN". Create another folder on the server called"OUT". Now put someone to work printing postscript files from quark to the Watched folder on the server. Distiller will check the folder every 5 seconds (or whatever you wish) and when it finds a .ps file it will distill it and move the .ps and the resulting .pdf to the "OUT" folder. The in and out folders become a virtual machine that allows you to simply dump postscript files in anytime, and the rest is automated. This probably does not automate the process as much as you would like, as you still have to open each quark file and print it to postscript, but maybe it will help. Dan Dilamarter ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 14:40:02-GMT,2405;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15187 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:40:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA23233; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:21:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:19:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23131; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:19:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Postscripting without launching Quark? Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:20:51 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1315346845-40758867@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Martin Butler (mbutler@completegroup.net) wrote on 6/2/98 7:10 AM: >Does anyone know of a postscript server solution which will automatically >process Quark-generated files, preferably without having to launch Quark, >and then forward them to Distiller? > >We have 50 or so Macs that need to produce 1,000 catalogue pages (in 2-page >spread format) twice a year. These pages are to be pdf-proofed to the client >possibly up to 3 times each. > >There are on average 25 low-resolution images per spread plus text and >Illustrator logos. > >We also handle supplier pages and these contain high-resolution images. > >Some of these supplier pages have taken up to 1 and a half hours to >postscript in tests. > >It is obviously not practical to tie up these production Macs for too long. Quark is highly AppleScript-able, including print options. If you learn quickly, you could write a script that does all your postscripting while you sleep! Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 15:03:09-GMT,1859;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15772 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:03:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24267; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:38:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:37:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24156; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:37:44 -0500 Message-ID: <35740E85.B7E48486@rugged.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 17:39:01 +0300 From: Yossi David Organization: Aitech Systems Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDFMaker queries Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello all, Being a newbie on this list I don't know if this question has been asked/answered before. If so, I apologize. Yesterday I downloaded PDFMaker which seems to be a terrific Word plug-in. Unfortunately, it leaves the "Print to file" box checked when it has finished. Is there a way to change this? Also, does anyone know of a way to "print" (i.e. create a PDF) from selected pages of a document only. This can be done using the Distiller Assistant and the regular Word print dialog box, but I have found is no such option in PDFMaker. Thanks, Yossi David Aitech Systems, Ltd. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 15:05:11-GMT,1930;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15816 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:05:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24148; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:37:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:36:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24070; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:36:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:29:22 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19980602104323.547fef02@mail.i95.net> X-Sender: dcbiker@mail.i95.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Harold Goldstein Subject: [PDF] Teaching Source Recommendation? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We use Adobe's Classroom in a Book to teach a basic class in Adobe Acrobat. I am interested in hearing if people have a recommendation for a good teaching book that goes beyond these basics. I am also interested in hearing about what people include in their advanced Acrobat courses. Thanks. ___________________________________ Harold Goldstein - dcbiker@goldray.com ~~ ,__o ~^^ See the Goldpages: http://goldray.com/ ~_-\ < ,~ o \ Professor of Engineering/Internet Trainer (*)/ (*) ~ / { \ Help Save Them: http://biosynergy.org/bushmeat/ / { o} BIGFACE!!!!!!!!! http://bigface.com -- you will be released ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 15:12:58-GMT,1919;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15998 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:12:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA25097; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:53:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:52:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25030; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:52:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:48:40 +0100 Message-ID: <1131-Tue02Jun1998154840+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-17 I); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Teaching Source Recommendation? In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19980602104323.547fef02@mail.i95.net> References: <2.2.16.19980602104323.547fef02@mail.i95.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Harold Goldstein writes: > > We use Adobe's Classroom in a Book to teach a basic class in Adobe Acrobat. > I am interested in hearing if people have a recommendation for a good > teaching book that goes beyond these basics. I am also interested in > hearing about what people include in their advanced Acrobat courses. > I have never taught Acrobat, but if I did, I would certainly use Thomas Merz' "Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF", Springer 1998. sebastian rahtz ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 15:14:16-GMT,2872;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16030 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:14:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA25412; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:58:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:57:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25348; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:57:12 -0500 Message-ID: <35741393.3D827214@aegisgroup.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 10:00:38 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Text garbled when copied from Exchange References: <7117B762FB6ED11199AC00805FEFA09A0A4AA6@eshed_nt1.robotec.co.il> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would recommend investing in a nice collection of postscript fonts. Acrobat is all about postscript compression, and TT fonts are not really for use in publishing applications. Best luck, Dan Dilamarter Lisa Mishli wrote: > I have numerous documents which use TT Century Schoolbook as their > primary font. > I am able to produce and print PDF files with this font. > > However, when I attempt to Copy and Paste/Paste Special (into Word, for > example) from these PDF files, all text in the Century Schoolbook font > is garbled. Example below: > > 5RER&HOO?IRU?6&25%27??(5éSF?ZLOO?QRW?UXQ?RQ?WKH?:LQGRZV?17 > SODWIRUP?ZKHQ?RSHUDWLQJ?RQ?OLQHï?,W?ZLOO?UXQ?RQ?: > > Except for the basic Type 1 fonts included in the ATM, all fonts on my > computer are TrueType. > I have installed the Adobe PS printer driver PS4.23 and Acrobat > Distiller 3.02. > > I have scoured this list's archives and the Adobe support site, and have > tried every possible combination in the Distiller Properties and Send > Fonts As... dialog boxes. > > Should I simply reformat my original documents using the (reliable but > boring) Times Roman font. Or is there a way to keep more pleasant and > interesting fonts in my documents? > > Many thanks. > > Lisa > lmish@po2.robotec.co.il > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Part 1.2 Type: application/ms-tnef (application/ms-tnef) > Encoding: base64 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 15:23:55-GMT,2509;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16247 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:23:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA26098; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:09:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:07:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25961; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:07:37 -0500 Message-ID: <35741600.C4C09F71@aegisgroup.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 10:10:59 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Teaching Source Recommendation? References: <2.2.16.19980602104323.547fef02@mail.i95.net> <1131-Tue02Jun1998154840+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For a very in-depth resource, try this: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/PDFS/TN/PDFSPEC.PDF Also to be found at adobe's site is a 400 page book in PDF format called Internet publishing with Adobe Acrobat. Dan Dilamarter Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Harold Goldstein writes: > > > > We use Adobe's Classroom in a Book to teach a basic class in Adobe Acrobat. > > I am interested in hearing if people have a recommendation for a good > > teaching book that goes beyond these basics. I am also interested in > > hearing about what people include in their advanced Acrobat courses. > > > I have never taught Acrobat, but if I did, I would certainly use > Thomas Merz' "Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF", Springer 1998. > > sebastian rahtz > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 16:13:39-GMT,2923;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17453 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:13:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28540; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:54:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:52:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28385; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:52:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:51:13 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] v3, n15 PDFzone *EXTRA* - Acrobat PDF Newsweekly Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ++ APOLOGIES in advance to those who may receive duplicates ++ ============================================================== V.03, N.15 ***PDFzone EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra52998.html ============================================================= The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + Microsoft v. 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Past issues are available at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Subscribe to the email version at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html rgds~Kurt ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 16:16:05-GMT,2691;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17496 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:16:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28939; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:58:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:57:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28854; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:57:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199806021557.RAA30340@zahra.easynet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] Text garbled when copied from Exchange Date: Tue, 2 Jun 98 17:57:40 +0100 x-sender: public@easy1.easynet.it x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Milko Schiopetto To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA28851 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Are the PDF files generated from Ventura ? > >I would recommend investing in a nice collection of postscript fonts. Acrobat >is all about postscript compression, and TT fonts are not really for use in >publishing applications. >Best luck, >Dan Dilamarter > >Lisa Mishli wrote: > >> I have numerous documents which use TT Century Schoolbook as their >> primary font. >> I am able to produce and print PDF files with this font. >> >> However, when I attempt to Copy and Paste/Paste Special (into Word, for >> example) from these PDF files, all text in the Century Schoolbook font >> is garbled. Example below: >> >> 5RER&HOO?IRU?6&25%27??(5éSF?ZLOO?QRW?UXQ?RQ?WKH?:LQGRZV?17 >> SODWIRUP?ZKHQ?RSHUDWLQJ?RQ?OLQHï?,W?ZLOO?UXQ?RQ?: >> >> Except for the basic Type 1 fonts included in the ATM, all fonts on my >> computer are TrueType. >> I have installed the Adobe PS printer driver PS4.23 and Acrobat >> Distiller 3.02. >> >> I have scoured this list's archives and the Adobe support site, and have >> tried every possible combination in the Distiller Properties and Send >> Fonts As... dialog boxes. >> >> Should I simply reformat my original documents using the (reliable but >> boring) Times Roman font. Or is there a way to keep more pleasant and >> interesting fonts in my documents? >> >> Many thanks. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 16:39:25-GMT,2405;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18016 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:39:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA30415; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:23:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:22:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30307; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:22:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980602092713.007e7930@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 09:27:13 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Teaching Source Recommendation? In-Reply-To: <1131-Tue02Jun1998154840+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> References: <2.2.16.19980602104323.547fef02@mail.i95.net> <2.2.16.19980602104323.547fef02@mail.i95.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would also highly recommend Thomas Merz's other book "PostScript and Acrobat/PDF," Springer 1997. At 03:48 PM 6/2/98 +0100, you wrote: > >Harold Goldstein writes: > > > > We use Adobe's Classroom in a Book to teach a basic class in Adobe Acrobat. > > I am interested in hearing if people have a recommendation for a good > > teaching book that goes beyond these basics. I am also interested in > > hearing about what people include in their advanced Acrobat courses. > > >I have never taught Acrobat, but if I did, I would certainly use >Thomas Merz' "Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF", Springer 1998. > >sebastian rahtz > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 16:43:05-GMT,2424;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18092 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:43:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA30257; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:21:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:18:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30146; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:18:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980602092345.007e7a50@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 09:23:45 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Copying fields and links In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can you access the source files? If so, you might be able to do this ahead of time in the source files, such as FrameMaker. At 03:09 PM 6/2/98 +0300, you wrote: > >I want to add navigation buttons (next page, previous page etc) to some of >my pdfs. > >I initially created the buttons using the standard forms in Exchange, and >then copied the buttons onto all the pages. It was great. Unfortunately, >Catalog does not work after I added the buttons! >I looked briefly into Ambia's Compose. It seems that the link copy tool may > be perfect. Unfortunately, Compose costs a lot more than we want to spend. > > >Can anyone suggest any other tools? > >PS. I am using Acrobat 3.01 on Windows 95. > >Thanks in advance >Baruch Benatar >baruch@mercury.co.il >Mercury Interactive > > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 18:00:11-GMT,3392;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19862 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:00:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01751; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:43:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:42:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01655; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:42:03 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980602174139.00d78880@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 10:41:39 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA01650 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Bob - could you please quantify what "more reliable" means? What specific problems have you encountered/overcome using Open File vs. Go To View? Aandi - why, specifically, is Go To View "better"? In what ways? Why do you think that Open File is "wrong"? While we each have our own ways of using the tools, it would be nice to know if there are specific reasons for choosing one method over another. BTW, the only time I ever use Go To View is when I want to open the target PDF of the link at some place other than the beginning of the document. Are there other other, less obvious, reasons? Tom Thiersch At 11:01 AM 6/1/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Go to View does work but I have found Open File to be more reialble for >network use. > >RM > >Aandi Inston wrote: > >> > Angus, the easy way to do it is to specify Open File and link >> > to the file of >> > choice. It works for me. HTH >> > >> > Bob Moran >> >> Although this mostly works, in my opinion it's the wrong way. >> I believe GO TO VIEW links should be used to link between PDF files, >> just as they are used to link within PDF files. >> >> Aandi >> ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >> For more info: John Cook >> List-related questions: >> Sub/Unsub: >> --------------------------------------------------------- > > > >-- >Robert E. Moran >Digital Constructs Inc. >759 North Park Avenue >Redding, CT 06896 >Tel 203-452-1116 >203-452-8085 >Fax: 203-452-0416 >E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com >URL: www.dconstructs.com >“Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller > > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 18:12:27-GMT,2331;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20166 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:12:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02523; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:00:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:58:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02420; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:58:57 -0500 From: ewillner@dclab.com Message-Id: <9806028968.AA896810486@dclhost.dclab.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.01 Date: Tue, 02 Jun 98 14:01:08 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] Editing "Image+Hidden Text" PDF Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are embarking on a fairly large project involving scanning documents of varying levels of quality to PDF. An exact page image is required, in addition to text, so we are using the "Image+Hidden Text" PDF variant. However, we require a much higher level of accuracy than the OCR engine is capable of producing; thus the text component of the PDFs must be cleaned up. The problem we are encountering is that what "shows" in Exchange is the image component of the PDF file, making proofreading (i.e. finding the OCR mistakes) quite difficult! Is there a way to directly edit the text component of the PDF file, using Exchange or a third-party tool? I couldn't find a way using either Exchange or PitStop. What is the best way of getting from here to there? Thanks in advance for any assistance. Sincerely, Eli Willner, Director of Technology Data Conversion Laboratory 184-13 Horace Harding Expressway Fresh Meadows, NY 11365 Phone: 718-357-8700 x239 Fax: 718-357-8776 Email: ewillner@dclab.com Web: http://www.dclab.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 13:30:29-GMT,2522;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13687 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:30:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA20177; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:09:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:08:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20118; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:08:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 14:10:34 +0000 Subject: [PDF] Postscripting without launching Quark? From: "Martin Butler" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1315325843-99608097@completegroup.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Does anyone know of a postscript server solution which will automatically process Quark-generated files, preferably without having to launch Quark, and then forward them to Distiller? We have 50 or so Macs that need to produce 1,000 catalogue pages (in 2-page spread format) twice a year. These pages are to be pdf-proofed to the client possibly up to 3 times each. There are on average 25 low-resolution images per spread plus text and Illustrator logos. We also handle supplier pages and these contain high-resolution images. Some of these supplier pages have taken up to 1 and a half hours to postscript in tests. It is obviously not practical to tie up these production Macs for too long. Thanks in advance, Martin ----------------------------------------------------- Martin Butler | - Bradwell Abbey Technical Manager | - Colour 49 Complete Group | - Finnemore & Field 21-22 Great Sutton St | - Finnemore & Field B.V. 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In-Reply-To: <35741600.C4C09F71@aegisgroup.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We try to view pdf files from IE, with the Adobe reader installed as a plug-in, but opening as a separate window. We have situations where the new window opens, the file seems to be transferred into the temporary storage area, and then the window just stays blank. Is there possibly a timeout for the Adobe reader when installed as a plug-in? Has anybody seen this? Thanks, Jennifer _______________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _______________________________________________________________________ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 18:54:43-GMT,3767;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21253 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:54:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04316; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:38:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:36:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04173; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:36:14 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6080B@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Editing "Image+Hidden Text" PDF Files Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:50:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 1. Exchange does not allow you to edit hidden text while "seeing the hidden text". 2. You need Capture reviewer to do this (which is a $899 list, $650 street software for 20,000 pages and $500 for every 20,000 pages afterwards) 3. We have developed a WYSIWYG OCR (with much improved OCR accuracy and speed) to allow users to output to PDF files through users own PDF writer. The current version can not support batch operation for the kind of functions you are looking for. Our next release will fit quite nicely your requirement--PDF output, Image with text behind, batch capability, one of the most accurate OCR in the market, very fast OCR speed, etc... (unfortunately due a bit later, ... 3Q-98). Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging Developer of PageGenie: The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR. http://www.pagegenie.com > ---------- > From: ewillner@dclab.com[SMTP:ewillner@dclab.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 12:01 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Editing "Image+Hidden Text" PDF Files > > > > We are embarking on a fairly large project involving scanning > documents of > varying levels of quality to PDF. An exact page image is required, in > addition > to text, so we are using the "Image+Hidden Text" PDF variant. > > However, we require a much higher level of accuracy than the OCR > engine is > capable of producing; thus the text component of the PDFs must be > cleaned up. > > The problem we are encountering is that what "shows" in Exchange is > the image > component of the PDF file, making proofreading (i.e. finding the OCR > mistakes) > quite difficult! > > Is there a way to directly edit the text component of the PDF file, > using > Exchange or a third-party tool? I couldn't find a way using either > Exchange or > PitStop. What is the best way of getting from here to there? > > Thanks in advance for any assistance. > > Sincerely, > > Eli Willner, Director of Technology > Data Conversion Laboratory > 184-13 Horace Harding Expressway > Fresh Meadows, NY 11365 > Phone: 718-357-8700 x239 > Fax: 718-357-8776 > > Email: ewillner@dclab.com > Web: http://www.dclab.com > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 19:03:03-GMT,2858;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21467 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:02:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05100; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:50:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:49:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04990; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:49:24 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6080C@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] IE and Adobe Reader Timeout? Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:03:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Nop! Adobe Acrobat Reader does not time out. It's meant for free use by any one on the globe! Cheers Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging Developer of PageGenie: The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR. http://www.pagegenie.com > ---------- > From: Jennifer Amon[SMTP:jamon@moen.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 11:35 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] IE and Adobe Reader Timeout? > > > > We try to view pdf files from IE, with the Adobe reader installed as a > > plug-in, but opening as a separate window. > > We have situations where the new window opens, the file seems to be > transferred into the temporary storage area, and then the window just > stays blank. > > Is there possibly a timeout for the Adobe reader when installed as > a plug-in? Has anybody seen this? > > Thanks, > Jennifer > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ > Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 > Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 > Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net > 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com > North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 19:04:45-GMT,3065;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21524 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:04:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05098; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:50:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:49:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04963; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:49:17 -0500 Message-ID: <35744916.8E1D5936@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 14:48:54 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... References: <2.2.32.19980602174139.00d78880@env-sol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom Thiersch wrote: > > Aandi - why, specifically, is Go To View "better"? In what ways? Why do > you think that Open File is "wrong"? That is a very good question. The answer to this can be found in section 6.9 of the PDF Reference Manual, "Actions". My paraphrase: the GoTo and GoToR actions are designed and intended for PDF->PDF linking, whereas the Launch action is designed for PDF->"generic document" linking. More to the point, the latter appears to require an OS-specific document-to-application mapping to work correctly in order to function, whereas the former two methods are controlled entirely within Acrobat. Now, in certain circumstances (such as in the original post), the intervention of the OS may be the desired behavior, but in most cases I would choose not to depend on my users' registries being in proper shape (*shudder*). Also, the Exchange Online Guide describes the "Open File" action as follows: "Open File specifies launching and opening a non-PDF file. Click Select File, locate the file, and click Select." which pretty much reflects the above thinking. > BTW, the only time I ever use Go To View is when I want to open the target > PDF of the link at some place other than the beginning of the document. Are > there other other, less obvious, reasons? I agree that the user interface somewhat leads you to this approach, which is unfortunate. It makes it feel like there is greater overhead with the "Go To View" action than with the "Open File" action, by the complexity of the dialog box. However, from reading the reference manual, I've become convinced that the intended usage in the normal case is how I've stated it above. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 19:32:53-GMT,3989;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22215 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:32:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA06263; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:11:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:10:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06202; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:10:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:09:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Jennifer Amon X-Sender: jamon@capehq1.hq_rde.moen.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] IE and Adobe Reader Timeout? In-Reply-To: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6080C@mail.paravision.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ahhh. I wasn't clear. I meant that if it takes too long to open the file, Adobe gives up. I was not talking about the expiration of a license. Thanks, Jennifer _______________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _______________________________________________________________________ On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Vincent Huang wrote: > > Nop! Adobe Acrobat Reader does not time out. It's meant for free use by > any one on the globe! > > Cheers > > Vincent Huang > Paravision Imaging > Developer of PageGenie: The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR. > http://www.pagegenie.com > > > ---------- > > From: Jennifer Amon[SMTP:jamon@moen.com] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 11:35 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] IE and Adobe Reader Timeout? > > > > > > > > We try to view pdf files from IE, with the Adobe reader installed as a > > > > plug-in, but opening as a separate window. > > > > We have situations where the new window opens, the file seems to be > > transferred into the temporary storage area, and then the window just > > stays blank. > > > > Is there possibly a timeout for the Adobe reader when installed as > > a plug-in? Has anybody seen this? > > > > Thanks, > > Jennifer > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 > > Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 > > Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net > > 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com > > North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > > For more info: John Cook > > List-related questions: > > Sub/Unsub: > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 19:33:35-GMT,1450;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22238 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:33:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA06368; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:13:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:12:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06313; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:12:07 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6080D@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:25:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a client who has tons of "image" PDF files that they want to convert back to regular image files. Highly appreciated if anyone can point me to the right direction/software. Thanks ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 19:41:23-GMT,4366;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22395 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:41:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07049; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:22:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:21:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06919; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:21:41 -0500 Message-ID: <357450D3.FB93C785@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 15:21:55 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... References: <2.2.32.19980602174139.00d78880@env-sol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA06913 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have nothing against Go to View. In fact, I use it like the way you do. I have found that when building complex Acrobat environments for clients, Open file is more reliable. They both work fine but not in my experience, over networks. Bob Tom Thiersch wrote: > Bob - could you please quantify what "more reliable" means? What specific > problems have you encountered/overcome using Open File vs. Go To View? > > Aandi - why, specifically, is Go To View "better"? In what ways? Why do > you think that Open File is "wrong"? > > While we each have our own ways of using the tools, it would be nice to know > if there are specific reasons for choosing one method over another. > > BTW, the only time I ever use Go To View is when I want to open the target > PDF of the link at some place other than the beginning of the document. Are > there other other, less obvious, reasons? > > Tom Thiersch > > > At 11:01 AM 6/1/98 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Go to View does work but I have found Open File to be more reialble for > >network use. > > > >RM > > > >Aandi Inston wrote: > > > >> > Angus, the easy way to do it is to specify Open File and link > >> > to the file of > >> > choice. It works for me. HTH > >> > > >> > Bob Moran > >> > >> Although this mostly works, in my opinion it's the wrong way. > >> I believe GO TO VIEW links should be used to link between PDF files, > >> just as they are used to link within PDF files. > >> > >> Aandi > >> ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > >> For more info: John Cook > >> List-related questions: > >> Sub/Unsub: > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > >-- > >Robert E. Moran > >Digital Constructs Inc. > >759 North Park Avenue > >Redding, CT 06896 > >Tel 203-452-1116 > >203-452-8085 > >Fax: 203-452-0416 > >E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com > >URL: www.dconstructs.com > >“Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller > > > > > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > >For more info: John Cook > >List-related questions: > >Sub/Unsub: > >--------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 20:02:54-GMT,2070;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22909 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:02:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08584; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:46:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:45:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08494; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:45:28 -0500 From: ewillner@dclab.com Message-Id: <9806028968.AA896816876@dclhost.dclab.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.01 Date: Tue, 02 Jun 98 15:47:37 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] Capturing PDF Using Xerox TextBridge Pro '98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The latest version of TextBridge Pro claims to be able to scan directly into PDF, and our experiments indicate that it does so, and does a good job at it, too (in fact the OCR is often better than Capture's). Before we use this tool on a production basis instead of Adobe Capture, however, I'm wondering what the hidden "gotcha's" are, if any. Does anyone have experience using Textbridge for the production of PDF's? What are the relative strengths and weaknesses of Capture vs. TextBridge. Thanks in advance for any feedback! Sincerely, Eli Willner, Director of Technology Data Conversion Laboratory 184-13 Horace Harding Expressway Fresh Meadows, NY 11365 Phone: 718-357-8700 x239 Fax: 718-357-8776 Email: ewillner@dclab.com Web: http://www.dclab.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 20:23:10-GMT,2119;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23422 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:23:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA09681; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:09:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:07:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09569; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:07:44 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980602130617.00884da0@charlie> X-Sender: satkins@charlie X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 13:06:17 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Atkins Subject: Re: [PDF] Capturing PDF Using Xerox TextBridge Pro '98 In-Reply-To: <9806028968.AA896816876@dclhost.dclab.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've tested both TextBridge Pro 98 and the Capture Plugin from Acrobat. The Acrobat OCR'd better than TextBridge for the stuff I was doing. Textbridge worked a lot faster, though, especially when the page count per tiff got over 5. The OCR problems I was having dealt mainly with page layout retention and identifying images. TextBridge is my choice for straight text OCR. At 03:47 PM 6/2/98 -0500, you wrote: > > >The latest version of TextBridge Pro claims to be able to scan directly into >PDF, and our experiments indicate that it does so, and does a good job at it, >too (in fact the OCR is often better than Capture's). > >Before we use this tool on a production basis instead of Adobe Capture, however, >I'm wondering what the hidden "gotcha's" are, if any. > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 20:34:40-GMT,1501;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23688 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:34:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA09963; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:14:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:13:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09882; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:13:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:12:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199806022012.PAA25666@unlinfo.unl.edu> X-Sender: jnakada@popmail.unl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu (Jeanette Nakada) Subject: [PDF] How to acquire Adobe postscript printer drivers for Windows/NT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 6/2/98 Advice needed-- How do we acquire Adobe postscript printer drivers for Windows/NT? We have them for Windows 95 but not Windows/NT. Thank you! Jeanette Nakada jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 20:59:02-GMT,1938;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24277 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:59:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA10766; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:31:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:30:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10727; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:30:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:31:53 -0700 From: jrs@net.com (John Switzer) Message-Id: <199806022031.NAA02042@viola.net.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How to acquire Adobe postscript printer drivers for Windows/NT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: Yb3mPRy2FQTAq1g3dWOqpg== Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm not sure if it will help, but Adobe has a PS driver for Windows/NT at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4f06.htm > > 6/2/98 > > Advice needed-- > How do we acquire Adobe postscript printer drivers for Windows/NT? We have > them for Windows 95 but not Windows/NT. > > Thank you! > > Jeanette Nakada > jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 21:01:48-GMT,2959;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24356 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:01:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA10520; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:26:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:25:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10465; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:25:18 -0500 Message-ID: <35746065.6BDA9BC2@document-solutions.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 13:28:21 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Capturing PDF Using Xerox TextBridge Pro '98 References: <9806028968.AA896816876@dclhost.dclab.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi there. Document Solutions, Inc. no longer uses TextBridge for PDF/Image+Text conversion. Based on TextBridge's superior OCR (also our experience), we had high hopes for a partial Capture replacement for I+T output. However.... the gotchas!! (1) The same TIFF, processed to I+T with TextBridge, yeilds a PDF about 10-30% larger than the Capture-generated PDF. (2) On-screen performance on TextBridge-generated PDFs is inferior to Capture. The images paints significantly more slowly to the screen. (3) We have observed "white text" when ccopy-and-pasting from TB-generated PDF/I+T. This problem appears to be inconsistant. (4) Unlike Capture (more properly, Capture Reviewer), TB does not allow OCR correction for images destined for PDF Image+Text. ewillner@dclab.com wrote: > The latest version of TextBridge Pro claims to be able to scan directly into > PDF, and our experiments indicate that it does so, and does a good job at it, > too (in fact the OCR is often better than Capture's). > > Before we use this tool on a production basis instead of Adobe Capture, however, > I'm wondering what the hidden "gotcha's" are, if any. > > Does anyone have experience using Textbridge for the production of PDF's? What > are the relative strengths and weaknesses of Capture vs. TextBridge. > > Thanks in advance for any feedback! -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 21:09:13-GMT,2148;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24567 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:09:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA11283; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:42:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:40:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11216; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:40:53 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:00:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bd8e66$9e4b8640$2a6645c2@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980602174139.00d78880@env-sol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Aandi - why, specifically, is Go To View "better"? In what > ways? Why do > you think that Open File is "wrong"? It's clearly better in that it lets you link to other than the first page of a document, and select a view. But more than that, it is the method designed for linking between PDF files. Open file is designed for linking to non-PDF documents/applications, and is done by asking the operating system to follow the link. It seems Acrobat recovers well from using an Open File link to a PDF file, perhaps by analysing the file before asking Windows to open it. I can't give any first evidence where one form actually fails, but it's what I've always taught. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 21:19:13-GMT,2320;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24772 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:19:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12500; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:05:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:03:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12356; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:03:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:36:05 -0500 Message-ID: <0017C4B3.001943@AICI.COM> From: Ryan_Watts@AICI.COM (Ryan Watts) Subject: [PDF] Automated Process To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am working on a project that needs to do the following steps... 1. Download Files(word.doc's) From a specific directory on a server. 2. Convert These files to PDF with printing and selecting turned off. 3. Upload These PDF files back to the server. This process will run automated ever hour and process about 100 documents a night. Eventually (18 months) this will turn in to 2000 documents. What is the best program for this kind of automated process? We have built everything we need to do the file transfers and conversion, but we can't get anything to change the security settings. This needs to run without any user intervention for long periods of time. As an added bonus we would like to eventually have a way that could allow an individual to print only one copy of the document, and on that copy be a watermark so as it could not be photo-copied. This is a stretch but we are considering it for future implementation. Any Help?? Thanks, Ryan Watts ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 21:19:18-GMT,4324;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24778 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:19:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12299; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:02:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:59:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12104; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:59:18 -0500 Message-ID: <35746855.18A209AD@document-solutions.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 14:02:13 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... References: <2.2.32.19980602174139.00d78880@env-sol.com> <35744916.8E1D5936@beacon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Cory: Your logic is flawless! However, from a production perspective, I've (to date) preferred using file-open, because: (1) It's quicker to set the links (2) Using "Open File" allows one to mange the link functionality by changing attributes on the target collection -- which is easier than changing the source document links (in quantity, anyhow). I agree that the OS issue is a concern.... but if the .pdf extension is messed up in the registry, then the user has likely noticed already! A simple Reader re-install *should* do the trick. Your point(s) however, are VERY well taken.... Cory Snavely wrote: > Tom Thiersch wrote: > > > > Aandi - why, specifically, is Go To View "better"? In what ways? Why do > > you think that Open File is "wrong"? > > That is a very good question. The answer to this can be found in section 6.9 of > the PDF Reference Manual, "Actions". > > My paraphrase: the GoTo and GoToR actions are designed and intended for PDF->PDF > linking, whereas the Launch action is designed for PDF->"generic document" > linking. More to the point, the latter appears to require an OS-specific > document-to-application mapping to work correctly in order to function, whereas > the former two methods are controlled entirely within Acrobat. Now, in certain > circumstances (such as in the original post), the intervention of the OS may be > the desired behavior, but in most cases I would choose not to depend on my > users' registries being in proper shape (*shudder*). > > Also, the Exchange Online Guide describes the "Open File" action as follows: > > "Open File specifies launching and opening a non-PDF > file. Click Select File, locate the file, and click Select." > > which pretty much reflects the above thinking. > > > BTW, the only time I ever use Go To View is when I want to open the target > > PDF of the link at some place other than the beginning of the document. Are > > there other other, less obvious, reasons? > > I agree that the user interface somewhat leads you to this approach, which is > unfortunate. It makes it feel like there is greater overhead with the "Go To > View" action than with the "Open File" action, by the complexity of the dialog > box. However, from reading the reference manual, I've become convinced that the > intended usage in the normal case is how I've stated it above. > > Cory Snavely > The Beacon Group > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-1998 22:33:21-GMT,1480;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26408 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:33:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA15707; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 17:16:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 17:13:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15579; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 17:13:29 -0500 From: MARTHA.M.MCCRATE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] ocr a pdf file Message-Id: <"0602221240-ocr a pdf file "@MHS> Date: 02 Jun 1998 17:10:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have some large PDF files(I don't have the original tif files) that I want to ocr. Is there a product or plugin that will do it? Acrobat Capture has a page limit that is pretty small. Thank you. Martha McCrate ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 1:20:05-GMT,3414;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00015 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:20:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA22014; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:07:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:06:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21950; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:06:24 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60816@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Capturing PDF Using Xerox TextBridge Pro '98 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:20:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Strenth as you put it: a better and faster OCR engine. Caveat: 1. There is NO proofing, that means that you have to think of other ingeneous ways to deal with mistakes during OCR. You will never have the peace of mind that you got the work done right. 2. Although it allows you to choose output images of suspect words, but you CAN NOT output "image+hidden words". So archiving images for search/indexing purposes is not workable. 3. You can NOT OCR any color or grayscale images. 4. I may be wrong but I don't think you can do batch OCR processing with TextBridge 98?? 5. I think you end up HAVE to use Acrobat Exchange 3.01 or Capture Reviewer 2.0x for your volume scanning/PDF conversion work. ============================= I personally suspect that Xerox licensed the PDF technology from Adobe, but Adobe made sure that it's not a theat to their existing and potential businesses. (Shoot me down on this one!) cheers Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging Developer of PageGenie: The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR. http://www.pagegenie.com > ---------- > From: ewillner@dclab.com[SMTP:ewillner@dclab.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 1:47 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Capturing PDF Using Xerox TextBridge Pro '98 > > The latest version of TextBridge Pro claims to be able to scan > directly into > PDF, and our experiments indicate that it does so, and does a good job > at it, > too (in fact the OCR is often better than Capture's). > > Before we use this tool on a production basis instead of Adobe > Capture, however, > I'm wondering what the hidden "gotcha's" are, if any. > > Does anyone have experience using Textbridge for the production of > PDF's? What > are the relative strengths and weaknesses of Capture vs. TextBridge. > > Thanks in advance for any feedback! > > Sincerely, > > Eli Willner, Director of Technology > Data Conversion Laboratory > 184-13 Horace Harding Expressway > Fresh Meadows, NY 11365 > Phone: 718-357-8700 x239 > Fax: 718-357-8776 > > Email: ewillner@dclab.com > Web: http://www.dclab.com > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 1:31:46-GMT,1890;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00262 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:31:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA21628; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:58:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:53:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21434; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:53:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199806030053.TAA21427@everglades.binc.net> From: "Stephen Lansdown" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Editing "Image+Hidden Text" PDF Files Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:30:32 +1000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Eli, I went through exactly the same frustration a couple of months ago, and spent about $30.00 on Abobe "pay as you go" phone support (in Australia) to resolve the matter. The only solution (apparently) is to use the separate "full-scale professional" Capture package at approx $800? for x number of scans (which allows editing of the hidden text). BTW, I abandoned PDF because of this very reason (and the tediousness of the editing). I would be interested to know what your final solution is !! Regards, Stephen Lansdown. Brisbane Australia ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 6:07:40-GMT,2674;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05929 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 00:07:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA30600; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 00:42:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 00:40:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA30519; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 00:40:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:12:46 -0500 (GMT) From: Satyanarayan X-Sender: usatra01@obelix To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Editing "Image+Hidden Text" PDF Files In-Reply-To: <9806028968.AA896810486@dclhost.dclab.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello Eli, On Tue, 2 Jun 1998 ewillner@dclab.com wrote: > However, we require a much higher level of accuracy than the OCR engine is > capable of producing; thus the text component of the PDFs must be cleaned up. Looks like you are using the Capture Plug-In available in Exchange. If you need to do OCR proofing, then I recommend that you try the Capture 2.0 for OCRing and Reviewer 2.0 for the Proofing. > The problem we are encountering is that what "shows" in Exchange is the image > component of the PDF file, making proofreading (i.e. finding the OCR mistakes) > quite difficult! Proofreading in Exchange is recommended only for small test batch or for updating files with missing pages etc. > Is there a way to directly edit the text component of the PDF file, using > Exchange or a third-party tool? I couldn't find a way using either Exchange or > PitStop. What is the best way of getting from here to there? Unfortunately Exchange has not been designed for this purpose. Please feel free to contact me offline in case you need any further assistance in your project. Thanks and regards Satyanarayan Vetri Software India Ltd. ___________________________________ | E-mail: usatra81@vetri.com | | Tel Res: 91-44-4992916,4995641 | | Tel off: 91-44-8272066,8273452 | | Fax off: 91-44-8272528 | ----------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 9:21:21-GMT,2027;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09354 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 03:21:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA02925; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 04:02:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 04:01:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02831; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 04:00:59 -0500 Message-ID: <35751129.74DB8E2C@empa.ch> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 11:02:36 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files References: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6080D@mail.paravision.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Maybe you can open these images in Photoshop and then convert them to whatever file format you like. Erwin Vincent Huang wrote: > I have a client who has tons of "image" PDF files that they want to > convert back to regular image files. > > Highly appreciated if anyone can point me to the right > direction/software. > > Thanks > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 10:27:20-GMT,1890;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10404 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 04:27:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA04588; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 05:09:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 05:07:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04535; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 05:07:42 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jun 1998 11:02:36 +0200." <35751129.74DB8E2C@empa.ch> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 11:07:27 +0100 Message-ID: <8407.896868447@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wed, 03 Jun 1998 11:02:36 +0200, Erwin Widmer wrote: > > Maybe you can open these images in Photoshop and then convert them to > whatever file format you like. > > Erwin > > > Vincent Huang wrote: > > > I have a client who has tons of "image" PDF files that they want to > > convert back to regular image files. > > > > Highly appreciated if anyone can point me to the right > > direction/software. > > > > Thanks Doing a "ton" of files by hand using Photoshop sounds a bit too much like hard work :-( Have you looked at using Ghostscript instead? It is easily automated. http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ Chris ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 11:38:20-GMT,1977;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11569 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 05:38:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA06391; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:11:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:09:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06311; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:09:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 98 12:09:19 BST From: David Williams To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: MM 0.90 Subject: Re: [PDF] How to acquire Adobe postscript printer drivers for Windows/NT In-Reply-To: <199806022012.PAA25666@unlinfo.unl.edu> Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:12:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You wrote to PDF list: > How do we acquire Adobe postscript printer drivers for Windows/NT? We have > them for Windows 95 but not Windows/NT. Available for download at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/pdrvwin.htm AdobePS5 has become available in the last couple of months. You need NT4 with the first 3 service packs - I think, but there's an information page with the exact details. It does not support Level 1 PostScript printers. Regards, David -- David Williams, Technical Writer, Working at, but not speaking for: Harlequin Limited, Cambs, UK Harlequin info: http://www.harlequin.com/ Just in case of lost headers, email: davidw@harlequin.co.uk ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 13:56:06-GMT,1880;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14164 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 07:56:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA12700; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:40:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:38:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12544; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:38:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3575527A.E0EB0B8B@aegisgroup.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 08:41:15 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] IE and Adobe Reader Timeout? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is your server specifically configured to serve up .pdfs? I don't know about unix or others, but NT has to be configured correctly. MIME and all that. Hey, and maybe post a scrap of code showing how you are linking to the pdf. that could possibly have something to do with it being spawned in another window...also the window coming up blank could indicate a corrupt pdf....but I bet it's your server hope that helps... Dan Dilamarter ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 14:07:39-GMT,1868;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14420 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:07:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA13290; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:49:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:46:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13086; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:46:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3575542B.74F86FA4@pre-print.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 07:48:29 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files References: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6080D@mail.paravision.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Vincent Huang wrote: > I have a client who has tons of "image" PDF files that they want to > convert back to regular image files. > > Highly appreciated if anyone can point me to the right > direction/software. > What platform? -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 14:17:52-GMT,2984;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14697 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:17:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA13687; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:55:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:53:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13563; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:53:40 -0500 Message-ID: <357555C2.5573C597@pre-print.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 07:55:15 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files References: <8407.896868447@isode.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If PhotoShop is scriptable, which I believe it is, you will likely get much better results than with GhostScript. GhostScript is a good PostScript utility, but in my limited experience, it doesn't really do too well with output resolution and quality. The concept of anti-aliasing is beyond GS, and the difference between 8-bit and 24-bit quality, or 288 and 432 dpi is not noticeable, if it exists. Chris Ridd wrote: > On Wed, 03 Jun 1998 11:02:36 +0200, Erwin Widmer wrote: > > > > Maybe you can open these images in Photoshop and then convert them to > > whatever file format you like. > > > > Erwin > > > > > > Vincent Huang wrote: > > > > > I have a client who has tons of "image" PDF files that they want to > > > convert back to regular image files. > > > > > > Highly appreciated if anyone can point me to the right > > > direction/software. > > > > > > Thanks > > Doing a "ton" of files by hand using Photoshop sounds a bit too much > like hard work :-( > > Have you looked at using Ghostscript instead? It is easily automated. > > http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ > > Chris > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 14:19:49-GMT,3179;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14741 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:19:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA13614; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:54:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:51:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13459; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:51:54 -0500 Message-Id: <98Jun3.155210gmt+0200.22404-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick WOLF To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'Jennifer Amon'" Subject: Re:[PDF] IE and Adobe Reader Timeout? Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:48:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA13453 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Jennifer, What is the IE version you use? If it is 4.0, don't forget to install the new version of the Acrobat ocx, available in http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ocxreader.html. If you want to publish your pdf on the web, you should either: 1- have a byteserving-capable web server, 2- optimize your pdf files. Hope it can help you, Yannick Wolf CD-ROM Development Basler Zeitung AG y.wolf@baz.ch > ---------- > From: Jennifer Amon[SMTP:jamon@moen.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 11:35 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] IE and Adobe Reader Timeout? > > > > We try to view pdf files from IE, with the Adobe reader installed as a > > plug-in, but opening as a separate window. > > We have situations where the new window opens, the file seems to be > transferred into the temporary storage area, and then the window just > stays blank. > > Is there possibly a timeout for the Adobe reader when installed as > a plug-in? Has anybody seen this? > > Thanks, > Jennifer > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ > Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 > Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 > Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net > 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com > North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 13:39:56-GMT,2806;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13821 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 07:39:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA11032; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:14:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:10:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10748; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:09:57 -0500 Message-ID: <35754B0D.5CD980D5@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 09:09:33 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... References: <2.2.32.19980602174139.00d78880@env-sol.com> <35744916.8E1D5936@beacon.com> <35746855.18A209AD@document-solutions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Duff Johnson wrote: > > [...] from a production perspective, I've (to date) > preferred using file-open, because: > > (1) It's quicker to set the links > (2) Using "Open File" allows one to mange the link functionality by changing > attributes on the target collection -- which is easier than changing the source > document links (in quantity, anyhow). > > I agree that the OS issue is a concern.... but if the .pdf extension is messed up in > the registry, then the user has likely noticed already! A simple Reader re-install > *should* do the trick. > > Your point(s) however, are VERY well taken.... Folks interested in this issue might also want to take a look at the pdfmark syntax for Launch (Open File) actions. Acrobat uses the ShellExecute API for this action, and as such you can specify actions such as "open" or "print" as the operation (Op) to perform. I just created, for example, a link that opens a second PDF file, prints it, then closes it. Note that the OS is performing this action through DDE to Acrobat. It could just as easily perform the print action to, say, MS-Word through DDE. If you are DDE-savvy, you might even be able to define a custom operation within Windows, and then call that with the Op key. I tried it and it didn't seem to work for me, but it's highly possible I was doing something wrong. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 14:26:53-GMT,1627;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14931 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:26:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA14122; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:04:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:02:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13986; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:02:06 -0500 Message-ID: <000501bd8ef8$7962e5c0$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] Bookmarks Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:04:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there any way to make "bookmarks" to a directory tree of pdf files? I know plugins like capture will make a table of contents, but as far as I know, there's no way to "nest" some of the within others, like what you can do with the bookmarks. any ideas? -Brett ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 14:30:05-GMT,2945;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15015 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:30:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA14425; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:10:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:08:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14279; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:08:04 -0500 Message-ID: <35755939.3CDCAAA8@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 10:10:01 -0400 From: Louis Rosa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] IE and Adobe Reader Timeout? References: <3575527A.E0EB0B8B@aegisgroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are experience similar problems. Any solutions Dan Dilamarter wrote: > Is your server specifically configured to serve up .pdfs? I don't know about > unix or others, but NT has to be configured correctly. MIME and all that. > Hey, and maybe post a scrap of code showing how you are linking to the pdf. > that could possibly have something to do with it being spawned in another > window...also the window coming up blank could indicate a corrupt pdf....but > I bet it's your server > hope that helps... > Dan Dilamarter > ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_ | Louis Rosa _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | Florida Center for _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | Library Automation _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | Coordinator Comp Appl _/_/ _/_/_/_/ /_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ | e-mail: louisr@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------- |FCLA'S HOME PAGE: http://www.fcla.ufl.edu/~louisr | -------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 15:41:22-GMT,1872;000000000001 Received 3-Jun-1998 16:01:24-GMT,1821;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17354 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:01:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19577; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:38:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:37:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19481; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:37:13 -0500 Message-ID: <35756E47.4FB18477@icg-sj.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 08:40:07 -0700 From: Mark Powell Organization: International Consulting Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To add to what Aandi has said: One benefit of "Go to view" is that retains the window/bookmark pane view. If you prefer to drag the bookmark pane wider (on a large monitor, for example), you won't have to do it each time you go to a new file. Mark _________________________________________________________ Mark Powell International Consulting Group 2021 The Alameda, Suite 220 San Jose, California 95126 408-247-7900 ext. 110 (voice) 408-247-8900 (fax) work: markp@icg-sj.com personal: powell@wordscapes.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 16:28:13-GMT,2578;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18062 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:28:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA21588; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:11:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:10:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21511; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:10:27 -0500 From: "B. Burt" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Automated Process Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:10:20 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bd8f0a$1b1248f0$000110ac@yossarian.luminous.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <0017C4B3.001943@AICI.COM> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You might try one of our products, Imation OPEN. It's automated workflow software that creates "pipelines" into which you send files and which are then automatically processed by applications such as Acrobat Exchange. I'm not sure if OPEN will do everything you want it to, but it's worth having a look at. It's available for both Windows NT and Mac OS. Check out the info on our web site at http://ips.imation.com/prodtools/open/default.html > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Ryan Watts > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 1:36 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Automated Process > > > > I am working on a project that needs to do the following steps... > > 1. Download Files(word.doc's) From a specific directory on a server. > 2. Convert These files to PDF with printing and selecting turned off. > 3. Upload These PDF files back to the server. > > This process will run automated ever hour and process about 100 > documents a night. Eventually (18 months) this will turn in to 2000 > documents. > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 16:51:29-GMT,43583;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18686 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:51:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20524; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:53:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:52:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20391; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:52:11 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SYBEX From: "Molly Sharp" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256618.0055D7C4.00@sybex.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:43:01 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Postscripting without launching Quark Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=34XZ4hVdM5u40q2gddk0qYBT8fa8fHKwOjXzSL2SaiddZInZixnjeDbf" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --0__=34XZ4hVdM5u40q2gddk0qYBT8fa8fHKwOjXzSL2SaiddZInZixnjeDbf Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have developed an AppleScript application which will batch-postscript multiple Quark files, using the print settings you want for all files. 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You can fix this problem with AppleScript and PreFab Player™. You script the flow with AppleScript (create a postscriptfile), let the Acrobat Distiller distill the postscript file into an PDF-file, then you use AppleScript and PreFabPlayer to make the document nonprintable and so on. OPEN can fix most of your problem but I don´t think it can fix the different securitysettings on your document. Of course, you will need a Macintosh and some knowledge about AppleScript... but hey! It will work! Check some of this sites out: http://applescript.apple.com/default.html http://www.scriptweb.com/ B. Burt wrote: > You might try one of our products, Imation OPEN. It's automated workflow > software that creates "pipelines" into which you send files and which are > then automatically processed by applications such as Acrobat Exchange. I'm > not sure if OPEN will do everything you want it to, but it's worth having a > look at. It's available for both Windows NT and Mac OS. > > > > > > > > > > I am working on a project that needs to do the following steps... > > > > 1. Download Files(word.doc's) From a specific directory on a server. > > 2. Convert These files to PDF with printing and selecting turned off. > > 3. Upload These PDF files back to the server. > > > > This process will run automated ever hour and process about 100 > > documents a night. Eventually (18 months) this will turn in to 2000 > > documents. > > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Lev väl! Peter Mathiessen www.got.ims.se IMS Data Maskingatan 5 417 64 Göteborg Tel. 031-726 41 00 Fax. 031-726 41 01 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 17:07:47-GMT,2143;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19107 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:07:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23919; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:56:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:56:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23856; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:56:00 -0500 Message-ID: <357580E3.D8031D91@aegisgroup.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 11:59:19 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automated Process References: <000001bd8f0a$1b1248f0$000110ac@yossarian.luminous.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You can also create a couple of new folders called "in" and "out", and tell Distiller to use the "in" folder as the "Watched" folder. Distiller can be set up to look in that "watched" folder every 5 minutes. Any .ps file saved to that folder in the last 5 min. will automatically be distilled into a PDF. The PDF and the .ps file will be automatically moved to the "out" folder. If you set this up on a server and allocate a bunch of RAM to Distiller, it will function as a virtual batching machine. If you managed a way to applescript (or any script ) Quark (or Word, etc.) to automatically batch the creation of .ps files and the saving of said files to the watched folder, you'd about have it licked. Dan Dilamarter ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 17:10:30-GMT,1499;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19167 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:10:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA24072; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:59:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:58:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23999; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:58:07 -0500 Message-ID: <35758172.AF3DA5E2@aegisgroup.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 12:01:41 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Postscripting without launching Quark References: <88256618.0055D7C4.00@sybex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Molly Sharp: you are too cool. Thanks for the download!!! Dan Dilamarter ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 17:45:26-GMT,1717;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20096 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:45:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA25969; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:31:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:30:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25858; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:30:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980603113001.007a3d70@isp.incc.net> X-Sender: mjohnsto@isp.incc.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 11:30:01 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Marcus Johnstone " Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file...question. In-Reply-To: <35744916.8E1D5936@beacon.com> References: <2.2.32.19980602174139.00d78880@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can "Go To View" or "Open File" be setup and utilized using PageMaker6.5 with Distiller or is this something that is only accessable using Acrobat or Exchange? If it can be done within PageMaker, how? Thanks in advance for any info on this. Marcus marcus.johnstone@isp.incc.net ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 17:53:06-GMT,2914;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20270 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:53:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26622; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:40:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:39:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26517; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:39:32 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Jun 98 10:39 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <357555C2.5573C597@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > If PhotoShop is scriptable, which I believe it is, you will likely get much > better results than with GhostScript. GhostScript is a good PostScript > utility, but in my limited experience, it doesn't really do too well with > output resolution and quality. The concept of anti-aliasing is beyond GS, Actually, Ghostscript has had anti-aliasing capability since release 3.52 in October 1995. It only applies to true-color (non-dithered) devices, and unfortunately currently only to a subset of these; but the latter is just an oversight, since the anti-aliasing code is not in the device drivers but in the core graphics library. Probably we will extend anti-aliasing to all true-color devices in release 6.0, currently planned for this coming September. As with Adobe products, you need to tell Ghostscript that you *want* anti-aliased output. Currently you do this with the TextAlphaBits and GraphicsAlphaBits device parameters (settable to 2 or 4). In the 6.0 release, we will probably change this to conform to Adobe's recently documented specification. > and the difference between 8-bit and 24-bit quality, or 288 and 432 dpi is > not noticeable, if it exists. I don't know what device or configuration you are using for Ghostscript, so I can't speak to this assertion. Certainly there is a huge difference between 8-bit color, which uses halftones with a predefined palette, and 24-bit color, which does not. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 17:55:14-GMT,3310;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20334 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:55:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26771; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:43:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:42:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26697; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:42:40 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Jun 98 10:39 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <357555C2.5573C597@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > If PhotoShop is scriptable, which I believe it is, you will likely get much > better results than with GhostScript. GhostScript is a good PostScript > utility, but in my limited experience, it doesn't really do too well with > output resolution and quality. The concept of anti-aliasing is beyond GS, Actually, Ghostscript has had anti-aliasing capability since release 3.52 in October 1995. It only applies to true-color (non-dithered) devices, and unfortunately currently only to a subset of these; but the latter is just an oversight, since the anti-aliasing code is not in the device drivers but in the core graphics library. Probably we will extend anti-aliasing to all true-color devices in release 6.0, currently planned for this coming September. As with Adobe products, you need to tell Ghostscript that you *want* anti-aliased output. Currently you do this with the TextAlphaBits and GraphicsAlphaBits device parameters (settable to 2 or 4). In the 6.0 release, we will probably change this to conform to Adobe's recently documented specification. > and the difference between 8-bit and 24-bit quality, or 288 and 432 dpi is > not noticeable, if it exists. I don't know what device or configuration you are using for Ghostscript, so I can't speak to this assertion. Certainly there is a huge difference between 8-bit color, which uses halftones with a predefined palette, and 24-bit color, which does not. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 18:18:05-GMT,4310;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20916 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:17:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27763; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:01:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:00:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27619; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:00:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199806031800.NAA27601@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Automated Process Date: Wed, 3 Jun 98 14:00:01 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA27611 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 [Peter Mathiessen wrote on 6/3/98 1:52 PM] >Even if OPEN is a great product you don´t need it for this kind of workflow. >You can fix this problem with AppleScript and PreFab Player™. > >You script the flow with AppleScript (create a postscriptfile), let the >Acrobat >Distiller distill the postscript file into an PDF-file, then you use >AppleScript and PreFabPlayer to make the document nonprintable and so on. > >OPEN can fix most of your problem but I don´t think it can fix the different >securitysettings on your document. > >Of course, you will need a Macintosh and some knowledge about AppleScript... >but hey! It will work! > >Check some of this sites out: >http://applescript.apple.com/default.html >http://www.scriptweb.com/ > >B. Burt wrote: > >> You might try one of our products, Imation OPEN. It's automated workflow >> software that creates "pipelines" into which you send files and which are >> then automatically processed by applications such as Acrobat Exchange. I'm >> not sure if OPEN will do everything you want it to, but it's worth having a >> look at. It's available for both Windows NT and Mac OS. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > I am working on a project that needs to do the following steps... >> > >> > 1. Download Files(word.doc's) From a specific directory on a server. >> > 2. Convert These files to PDF with printing and selecting turned off. >> > 3. Upload These PDF files back to the server. >> > >> > This process will run automated ever hour and process about 100 >> > documents a night. Eventually (18 months) this will turn in to 2000 >> > documents. >> > >> >> ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >> For more info: John Cook >> List-related questions: >> Sub/Unsub: >> --------------------------------------------------------- > > >-- >Lev väl! > >Peter Mathiessen Peter, Open is really a far superior solution to the given problem then a simple AppleScript/PreFab Player workflow. You should note, however, that Open can use AppleScript as an integral part of the pipeline. The original questioner is asking for a process that will support up to 2000 documents a night. To do this you will need a blindingly fast machine or, more likely, multiple machines. Open will support queuing of multiple machines. It will inform an operator if a machine has a problem and automatically route documents to the next available machine. We have used Open to support the queuing of 25 machines handling multiple processing steps, including distilling, and thousands of documents per week. Though AppleScript and PreFab Player are amazing tools they are simply not made to handle a production environment. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 19:36:30-GMT,2239;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22993 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:36:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA31752; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:20:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:18:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31663; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:18:27 -0500 From: Michele_Berkes@ccmail.osti.gov Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 15:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PDF] IE and named destinations To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <01IXSYTFC1WY8Y4XGC@ADONIS.OSTI.GOV> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm on digest, so sorry if this is a bit late. Just to clarify quickly: My experience with IE4 is that it *does* follow named destinations from one HTML document to another HTML document. We're talking about links structured as text correct? Just didn't want to leave anyone with an inaccurate impression of IE. If you want to go offline, we could talk about some different IE "features" that make me crazy ;-), but this one, I haven't experienced. Michele Berkes Energy Technology Data Exchange michele_berkes@ccmail.osti.gov http://www.etde.org/ >Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 08:56:46 -0400 >From: Mark DeVries >Subject: Re: [PDF] Named Destination does not work in IE4? > >FWIW - jumping to a named destination _in a separate *HTML* document_ >doesn't work within IE, either. It's not specific to PDF. In IE, >named destination only works within the same document. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 19:37:26-GMT,1573;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23018 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:37:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA31993; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:25:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:24:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31922; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:24:17 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01bd8f25$7c543fe0$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] search Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:26:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there any way to search an index over the internet? I know that when you open a pdf in a browser, you can search the pdf but does anyone know if adobe is planning on making searching an index possible? -Brett ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 20:48:15-GMT,3584;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24640 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:48:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA01104; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:02:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:01:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01042; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:01:42 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980603200131.00d6f5f0@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 13:01:31 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 re: > If you prefer to drag the bookmark pane wider >(on a large monitor, for example), you won't have to do it each time you go to >a new file. The width of the bookmark pane (the splitter position) can't be set or changed on a per-file basis. In fact, you have to hack the .INI file to change the value permanently. re: >To add to what Aandi has said: One benefit of "Go to view" is that retains >the window/bookmark pane view. This sounds like an authoring, not a viewing, issue to me. If you've got files that aren't opening with the desired view, then you should probably fix the files so that they open "correctly" by setting the File>Info>Open> properties. In fact, this may be an argument in favor of preferring the Open File type of link over the Go To View link -- the Open File action will ensure that the target is displayed as the author intended WRT bookmarks/thumbnails, magnification, page layout, et al. OTOH, Go To View forces the target to inherit the magnification that's specified in the link in the source document; i.e., there appears to be no way for a Go To View link to leave the target's magnification set at "default". Strange, and a bit inconsistent, since other properties of the target (e.g., bookmarks view) are preserved! Hmm...I think I need to remember this for the Acrobat4 beta. Anyway, it would seem that there are many reasons to need both of these Link actions, warts and all. Tom Thiersch At 08:40 AM 6/3/98 -0700, you wrote: > >To add to what Aandi has said: One benefit of "Go to view" is that retains >the window/bookmark pane view. If you prefer to drag the bookmark pane wider >(on a large monitor, for example), you won't have to do it each time you go to >a new file. > >Mark >_________________________________________________________ >Mark Powell >International Consulting Group >2021 The Alameda, Suite 220 San Jose, California 95126 >408-247-7900 ext. 110 (voice) 408-247-8900 (fax) >work: markp@icg-sj.com personal: powell@wordscapes.com >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 20:54:30-GMT,2135;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24785 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:54:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA02640; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:35:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:33:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02428; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:33:28 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] search Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:15:22 +0100 Message-ID: <002001bd8f2e$b056fb80$2a6645c2@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001f01bd8f25$7c543fe0$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Is there any way to search an index over the internet? I > know that when you > open a pdf in a browser, you can search the pdf but does > anyone know if > adobe is planning on making searching an index possible? It is not possible, and there is no direct way to make it possible. The protocol used in the internet (HTTP) is not nearly smart enough to be used to work with the complex file structures an index needs. The solution is to install file indexing on the web server as a "search engine". Some use the indexes created by catalog, some don't. These all assume you own/operate the web server; you would be unlikely to use them with a shared server at an ISP. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-1998 15:50:40-GMT,2133;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17047 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:50:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19271; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:34:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:33:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19215; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:33:36 -0500 Message-ID: <35741BB1.4E17862@glyphica.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 08:35:13 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files References: <8407.896868447@isode.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Not that I recommend using Photoshop to convert PDF image files, but ... for what it's worth, you can automate this and many other tasks in Photoshop by using the actions feature that came out in v4.0. Create a sequence of events like file open-save as then point it at a set of files and that's it. You can sequence much more powerful functions using 4.0 as well. Deidre ......................................... Glyphica Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com ......................................... Chris Ridd wrote: > > > Doing a "ton" of files by hand using Photoshop sounds a bit too much > like hard work :-( > > Have you looked at using Ghostscript instead? It is easily automated. > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 6:55:52-GMT,3992;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06724 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 00:55:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA22914; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:36:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:32:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22758; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:32:33 -0500 Message-ID: <35764EC4.C3EE89E9@got.ims.se> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 08:37:46 +0100 From: Peter Mathiessen Organization: IMS Data X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automated Process References: <199806031800.NAA27601@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello Mark! Sure, OPEN is a great product, but it uses AppleScript and AppleEvents (at least on a Macintosh). It´s like a collector of different programs and functions and I agree.... If you don´t master AppleScript the functions you get in OPEN is maybe enough but if you want to do more (like set different security settings on a PDF-file) you need some skill in AppleScript and you have to use PreFab Player, at least to my knowledge. Everything you can do in OPEN you can do as well in AppleScript. But, as you mention, OPEN is great if you need quick access reports and so on. The problem the original questioner wanted to solve was to distill 2000 Word documents. Word documents never tends to be so big, around 1 MB. If you distill them you will end up with maybe 100K and that is not so much to handle. If you have a lot of money and want some speed you set up three G3 Macs, the first creates the postscript file and sends it to another G3. This one distill the postscript file and sends it to the third G3. This one uses FaceSpan to set the security settings on each document. To speed up things even more you use a 100Mbs network. Best regards > > > > > Peter, > Open is really a far superior solution to the given problem then a simple AppleScript/PreFab Player workflow. You should note, however, that Open can use AppleScript as an integral part of the pipeline. The original questioner is asking for a process that will support up to 2000 documents a night. To do this you will need a blindingly fast machine or, more likely, multiple machines. Open will support queuing of multiple machines. It will inform an operator if a machine has a problem and automatically route documents to the next available machine. We have used Open to support the queuing of 25 machines handling multiple processing steps, including distilling, and thousands of documents per week. Though AppleScript and PreFab Player are amazing tools they are simply not made to handle a production environment. > > Mark Gavin > Vice President > Digital Applications, Inc. > 215 East Providence Road > Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 > (610) 284-4006 > mgavin@DigApp.com > http://www.DigApp.com > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Lev väl! Peter Mathiessen www.got.ims.se IMS Data Maskingatan 5 417 64 Göteborg Tel. 031-726 41 00 Fax. 031-726 41 01 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 7:35:19-GMT,1833;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07396 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:35:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA24320; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 02:16:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 02:14:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24240; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 02:14:52 -0500 Message-ID: <35764A52.A6D2EF3C@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 00:18:42 -0700 From: William Belk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Posting Comments to Web-based PDFs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have a client who wants a flexible way to submit comments to technical documents via a wide-area intranet. Is there a way to build this capability around a PDF version of a document served up from a Web server? Can a remote reviewer post Notes to a Web-based PDF using Exchange as a browser plug-in? What, if any, complications might arise? Can the new forms feature provide this capability? If so, can anyone point me to a Web site that is using this feature to collect information? Thanks, Bill Belk Document Production Manager IT Corporation ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 13:10:39-GMT,2016;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13333 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:10:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA32219; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:18:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:16:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32131; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:16:27 -0500 Message-ID: <002601bd8fb2$e3bff240$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: Re: [PDF] search Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 08:18:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi, Do you know of any search engines off hand that use the indexes created by catalog? thanks for the info, and I will be running this on a local web server. Thanks, Brett >It is not possible, and there is no direct way to make it >possible. The protocol used in the internet (HTTP) is not >nearly smart enough to be used to work with the complex file >structures an index needs. > >The solution is to install file indexing on the web server >as a "search engine". Some use the indexes created by catalog, >some don't. > >These all assume you own/operate the web server; you would be >unlikely to use them with a shared server at an ISP. > >Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 13:11:00-GMT,2090;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13340 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:10:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA00361; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:41:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:40:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00308; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:40:11 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] search Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:39:04 +0100 Message-ID: <002b01bd8fb5$c7ad0720$2a6645c2@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002601bd8fb2$e3bff240$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > Aandi, > Do you know of any search engines off hand that use the > indexes created by > catalog? > thanks for the info, and I will be running this on a local web server. > The search/index/catalog functions in Acrobat are licensed from Verity, and in fact use standard Verity index files. These work nicely with Verity's web server (www.verity.com). I don't know if any of the others license Verity technology. NB Some search engines are complete web servers. These can be run on a different port alongside your existing server, they don't have to replace them. For instance www.mydomain.com:1234 can be the search server. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 15:07:36-GMT,4932;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15757 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:07:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05871; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:43:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:40:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05765; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:40:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3576B242.A2D0460E@pre-print.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 08:42:11 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C6A8DBCB2777265BC7BAF894" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --------------C6A8DBCB2777265BC7BAF894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > L. Peter Deutsch wrote: > Actually, Ghostscript has had anti-aliasing capability since release 3.52 in > October 1995. It only applies to true-color (non-dithered) devices, and > unfortunately currently only to a subset of these; but the latter is just an > oversight, since the anti-aliasing code is not in the device drivers but in > the core graphics library. Probably we will extend anti-aliasing to all > true-color devices in release 6.0, currently planned for this coming > September. > As always, every time I open my big mouth, I stand corrected (This time it isn't even Aandi). Thank you Peter. > As with Adobe products, you need to tell Ghostscript that you *want* > anti-aliased output. Currently you do this with the TextAlphaBits and > GraphicsAlphaBits device parameters (settable to 2 or 4). In the 6.0 > release, we will probably change this to conform to Adobe's recently > documented specification. > If this is the case, this is good news. I am particularly interested in outputting text that doesn't look like it was output on an old dot matrix, regardless of colour depth or image resolution. If I understand you correctly, setting TextAlphaBits to 4 will make it look cleaner. Is there a scripting equivalent to this setting?-- Most abashedly, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca --------------C6A8DBCB2777265BC7BAF894 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

    L. Peter Deutsch wrote:
    Actually, Ghostscript has had anti-aliasing capability since release 3.52 in
    October 1995.  It only applies to true-color (non-dithered) devices, and
    unfortunately currently only to a subset of these; but the latter is just an
    oversight, since the anti-aliasing code is not in the device drivers but in
    the core graphics library.  Probably we will extend anti-aliasing to all
    true-color devices in release 6.0, currently planned for this coming
    September.
     
    As always, every time I open my big mouth, I stand corrected (This time it isn't even Aandi). Thank you Peter. 
    As with Adobe products, you need to tell Ghostscript that you *want*
anti-aliased output.  Currently you do this with the TextAlphaBits and
GraphicsAlphaBits device parameters (settable to 2 or 4).  In the 6.0
release, we will probably change this to conform to Adobe's recently
documented specification.
    If this is the case, this is good news. I am particularly interested in outputting text that doesn't look like it was output on an old dot matrix, regardless of colour depth or image resolution. If I understand you correctly, setting TextAlphaBits to 4 will make it look cleaner. Is there a scripting equivalent to this setting?--

    Most abashedly,

    Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc.
    tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283  alt (403) 461-0333
    fax (403) 452-6972   website: http://www.pre-print.com
          website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca
      --------------C6A8DBCB2777265BC7BAF894-- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 15:51:59-GMT,2391;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16812 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:51:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08258; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:33:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:32:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08188; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:32:20 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 08:25 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <3576B242.A2D0460E@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > If this is the case, this is good news. I am particularly interested in > outputting text that doesn't look like it was output on an old dot matrix, > regardless of colour depth or image resolution. If I understand you > correctly, setting TextAlphaBits to 4 will make it look cleaner. Is there a > scripting equivalent to this setting?-- Currently this is supported only for the following devices: p*m, p*mraw, mswin, os2pm, x11alpha You simply put -dNOPLATFONTS -dTextAlphaBits=4 on the command line. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 16:00:35-GMT,3378;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17027 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:00:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08684; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:42:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:41:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08614; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:41:16 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 08:40 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <3576B242.A2D0460E@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > If this is the case, this is good news. I am particularly interested in > outputting text that doesn't look like it was output on an old dot matrix, > regardless of colour depth or image resolution. If I understand you > correctly, setting TextAlphaBits to 4 will make it look cleaner. Is there a > scripting equivalent to this setting?-- Currently this is supported only for the following devices: p*m, p*mraw, mswin, os2pm, x11alpha For all of these except x11alpha, you put -dNOPLATFONTS -dTextAlphaBits=4 on the command line. For x11alpha, you just put -dNOPLATFONTS since it forces both TextAlphaBits and GraphicsAlphaBits to 4. Bear in mind that if you are converting a PDF file containing a 72 DPI *bitmap* image to 300 DPI (say), this will not help you at all. Ghostscript's anti-aliasing (like Adobe's) only applies to entities that are represented as text and/or fill/stroke graphics in the original PDF or PostScript file. For images, there is a completely different facility in PostScript and PDF for doing smoothing, called "interpolation". There is no easy way to control this from the command line, although there is a fairly simple way to patch Ghostscript's initialization files (written in PostScript, so you don't need to recompile anything) to force Interpolate to true for all images. If you go this route, Ghostscript may do better for your purposes than Adobe's RIPs, since (I believe) Adobe's PostScript RIPs interpolate spatially whereas Ghostscript uses a digital filter to blend colors. Acrobat Distiller has a number of image resampling options and might be able to do color smoothing, but I don't know if you can use it to "distill" PDF to PDF, and I don't know whether Exchange offers the same options for PDF input (as opposed to PostScript input). I know Acrobat Reader offers anti-aliased text; I don't know whether it does image interpolation. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 16:01:07-GMT,1995;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17049 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:01:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07982; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:27:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:25:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07851; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:25:31 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 08:25 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <3576B242.A2D0460E@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > If this is the case, this is good news. I am particularly interested in > outputting text that doesn't look like it was output on an old dot matrix, > regardless of colour depth or image resolution. If I understand you > correctly, setting TextAlphaBits to 4 will make it look cleaner. Is there a > scripting equivalent to this setting?-- Currently this is supported only for the following devices: p*m, p*mraw, mswin, os2pm, x11alpha You simply put -dNOPLATFONTS -dTextAlphaBits=4 on the command line. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 16:05:14-GMT,3774;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17135 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:05:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08842; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:44:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:43:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08748; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:43:24 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 08:40 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <3576B242.A2D0460E@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > If this is the case, this is good news. I am particularly interested in > outputting text that doesn't look like it was output on an old dot matrix, > regardless of colour depth or image resolution. If I understand you > correctly, setting TextAlphaBits to 4 will make it look cleaner. Is there a > scripting equivalent to this setting?-- Currently this is supported only for the following devices: p*m, p*mraw, mswin, os2pm, x11alpha For all of these except x11alpha, you put -dNOPLATFONTS -dTextAlphaBits=4 on the command line. For x11alpha, you just put -dNOPLATFONTS since it forces both TextAlphaBits and GraphicsAlphaBits to 4. Bear in mind that if you are converting a PDF file containing a 72 DPI *bitmap* image to 300 DPI (say), this will not help you at all. Ghostscript's anti-aliasing (like Adobe's) only applies to entities that are represented as text and/or fill/stroke graphics in the original PDF or PostScript file. For images, there is a completely different facility in PostScript and PDF for doing smoothing, called "interpolation". There is no easy way to control this from the command line, although there is a fairly simple way to patch Ghostscript's initialization files (written in PostScript, so you don't need to recompile anything) to force Interpolate to true for all images. If you go this route, Ghostscript may do better for your purposes than Adobe's RIPs, since (I believe) Adobe's PostScript RIPs interpolate spatially whereas Ghostscript uses a digital filter to blend colors. Acrobat Distiller has a number of image resampling options and might be able to do color smoothing, but I don't know if you can use it to "distill" PDF to PDF, and I don't know whether Exchange offers the same options for PDF input (as opposed to PostScript input). I know Acrobat Reader offers anti-aliased text; I don't know whether it does image interpolation. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 16:50:04-GMT,2520;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18217 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:50:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10728; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:23:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:22:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10668; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:22:34 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <35764A52.A6D2EF3C@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:33:42 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Posting Comments to Web-based PDFs Cc: William Belk Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Bill, I am not sure about the editing functions, over a net, but with Forms, it should work. The implementation depends on how deep the comments should be anchored in the document (on document level, page level, paragraph level). It also depends on the tools you are using to create the documents, how easy it would be to implement a forms based solution. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _____________ >We have a client who wants a flexible way to submit comments to >technical documents via a wide-area intranet. Is there a way to build >this capability around a PDF version of a document served up from a Web >server? Can a remote reviewer post Notes to a Web-based PDF using >Exchange as a browser plug-in? What, if any, complications might arise? >Can the new forms feature provide this capability? If so, can anyone >point me to a Web site that is using this feature to collect >information? > >Thanks, >Bill Belk >Document Production Manager >IT Corporation ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 17:20:31-GMT,1593;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19059 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:20:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11365; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:39:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:39:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11314; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:38:58 -0500 Message-ID: <007e01bd8fd6$b9463000$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] Online forms and such Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:35:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a simple way for someone to fill out a form online, in a browser, and send the pdf (input data and all) to someone (in the way a cgi would send form data except we want the whole pdf transferred) Thanks, Brett ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 17:41:39-GMT,4564;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19590 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:41:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13650; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:27:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:24:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13560; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:24:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3576D8C9.85686FA1@aegisgroup.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 12:26:37 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Posting Comments to Web-based PDFs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hey, Bill. The forms feature is certainly one way to skin this cat. You can, when creating the form, put in a field that is visible on screen, but does not print out. The field could be a scrollable text box, with no limits on number of characters entered, with a submit button under it. You could then (I'm just brainstorming here, I have no idea if this where you need to go) have the comments, upon submission, be permanently attached to that document, or perhaps the contents of that comment could be dumped into your server's database for later retrieval by an editor, maybe from a web page with a search capability. Maybe the client could just e-mail the editor, if you want to keep it really simple. As I read your question again, it seems to me that you might be wanting a bbs or forum-like web page that contains a frame with the pdf in question plainly in view. The frame containing the pdf will have the reader tool bar, but the rest of the web page would be straight html. In which case you are looking at a basic web page design and implementation thing. If you DO have the need to include the comments directly into the pdf document, I don't think you can use the Notes feature, as Notes need to be created in Exchange--Exchange is not a plug-in, Reader is. The end users could have a copy of Exchange on their computer, download the pdf, mark it up with Notes, and upload it to the web server, but wow, too much. Each user would have to have a license for exchange (200-300 $$), as well as be savvy enough to do the rest. Dan Dilamarter ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com Max Wyss wrote: > Bill, > > I am not sure about the editing functions, over a net, but with Forms, it > should work. > > The implementation depends on how deep the comments should be anchored in > the document (on document level, page level, paragraph level). > > It also depends on the tools you are using to create the documents, how > easy it would be to implement a forms based solution. > > Hope, this can help. > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering AG > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com > > Bridging the Knowledge Gap > > _____________ > > >We have a client who wants a flexible way to submit comments to > >technical documents via a wide-area intranet. Is there a way to build > >this capability around a PDF version of a document served up from a Web > >server? Can a remote reviewer post Notes to a Web-based PDF using > >Exchange as a browser plug-in? What, if any, complications might arise? > >Can the new forms feature provide this capability? If so, can anyone > >point me to a Web site that is using this feature to collect > >information? > > > >Thanks, > >Bill Belk > >Document Production Manager > >IT Corporation > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 18:10:23-GMT,4128;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20300 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:10:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14673; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:51:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:50:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14632; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:50:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3576DF2C.907C5FA2@aegisgroup.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 12:53:52 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Online forms and such References: <007e01bd8fd6$b9463000$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yes, Brett, there is. But I wouldn't call it simple. It's pretty straight forward, though. If you want to send the actual pdf to someone, I can think of one way to do it--if you want to make that pdf (and it's input data) available to a person by way of the internet, I can think of a way to do that, too. If you don't want to "send" The whole pdf to someone, but rather make it available from a web page, try something like this: let them select the form they need to fill out from a link. The appropriate blank form pdf is loaded into the browser. The reader plug-in will load it up, of course, but they must also have the free forms fill-in plug-in from Adobe's Acrobat homepage. The user will fill out the form and hit the submit button. At that point the form will submit all those data elements to the web server like an html form would. Depending on how you built the form, those data elements will be transmitted as either html data elements or as an FDF (Adobe's Forms Data Format, which encapsulates all those inputted data elements in one file), each of which has its merits. If you have the form sending FDF back to the server, the server can stash that FDF file away in a database somewhere. When the person who needs to receive the resultant pdf needs to get at it, they would enter their search criteria into a search page that you will have built for them, and the server will load up the blank form as a sort of template, find the previously stored FDF that matches the criteria, and send it to the browser. The Acrobat browser plug-ins will populate the blank form with the data elements contained in the FDF file, and the filled out form is presented to the end user. If, on the other hand, you wish to actually send the filled out pdf to a particular person, you could set it up so that the server takes the FDF file and populates a copy of the blank form (template), and passes it (by way of scripts that you will write) to an e-mail app that takes it as an attachment and sends it to the end user. Or pass it to a FAX app and FAX it. If anybody has other methods, I'd love to hear them. Hope that helps! Dan Dilamarter ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com brett patane wrote: > Is there a simple way for someone to fill out a form online, in a browser, > and send the pdf (input data and all) to someone (in the way a cgi would > send form data except we want the whole pdf transferred) > > Thanks, > Brett > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 18:51:36-GMT,2885;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21183 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:51:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16718; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:34:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:31:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16599; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:31:52 -0500 Message-ID: <840631BE4045D11186BB00400536BFB02412C3@zeus.snapweb.com> From: Ian Varley To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] IE and Adobe Reader Timeout? Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:32:55 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We serve up two kinds of PDF file, one optimized and another not (because it is generated on the fly). The optimized ones seem to work fine. However, with the on-the-fly pdf, calling for the file brings up the blank window and doesn't even start the Acrobat plugin. So I guess that means that either our generated file is corrupt in some way (possible, though it comes up just fine in all other browsers) or we need to optimize it (which is stupid, because as I just mentioned, it comes up fine in all other browsers.) If it is the fault of our NT servers, what specifically should we change to make this stop happening? FYI, there is a workaround for this bug. Copy the URL of the PDF file from the IE location window, press the "Back" button, paste in the URL, and hit "Enter". We've found that doing this brings up the PDF file just fine. Of course, that's not the most user-friendly thing in the world, but it seems to work . . . and it may be specific to our system. Can anybody else confirm this one way or the other? Thanks, Ian Varley, Developer ivarley@snapweb.com SNAP Technologies Inc. http://www.collegeedge.com ps - I'm on digest, so write me directly if you want an answer today. ------------------------------------------ > We try to view pdf files from IE, with the Adobe reader installed as a > > plug-in, but opening as a separate window. > > We have situations where the new window opens, the file seems to be > transferred into the temporary storage area, and then the window just > stays blank. > > Is there possibly a timeout for the Adobe reader when installed as > a plug-in? Has anybody seen this? ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 19:55:01-GMT,1805;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22649 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:55:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19266; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:36:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:34:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19171; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:34:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3576F6CF.787B@gsao.med.ge.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 14:34:39 -0500 From: Greg Derzay 4-6601 GSAO Organization: G.E. Medical Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] word to pdf command line tool? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know if there exists a command line tool to generate PDF documents from Microsoft Word documents? Reason: I need web access to master Word documents, but most browsers are running on Solaris or SGI platform. I want to be able to automatically generate a PDF document on the fly when clicking on the Word link. I apologize if this is a newbie question...afterall, I'm a newbie! Thanks in advance, Greg Derzay Software Engineer, GE Medical Systems, GSO derzayg@gsao.med.ge.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 20:00:13-GMT,2197;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22775 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:00:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19797; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:45:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:44:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19686; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:44:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199806041944.PAA04705@next.aps.org> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <3576F6CF.787B@gsao.med.ge.com> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b6) From: Mark Doyle Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 15:44:10 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] word to pdf command line tool? References: <3576F6CF.787B@gsao.med.ge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thu, 04 Jun 1998, Greg Derzay 4-6601 GSAO wrote: > Does anyone know if there exists a command line tool to generate > PDF documents from Microsoft Word documents? > > Reason: I need web access to master Word documents, but most browsers > are running on Solaris or SGI platform. I want to be able to > automatically generate a PDF document on the fly when clicking on > the Word link. > > I apologize if this is a newbie question...afterall, I'm a newbie! Try: Company: Computerised Document Control Ltd P.O. Box 5 Chepstow, NP6 6YU United Kingdom +44(0) 1291 641554 Web Site: www.docctrl.com Product: Local Render version 1.0 Contact: David Cornwell davec@docctrl.com Support: support@docctrl.com So far it works well for us (initial testing). Cheers, Mark ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 20:16:47-GMT,2206;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23175 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:16:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20335; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:58:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:57:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20251; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:57:03 -0500 Message-ID: <35770CB2.805D31E1@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 16:08:07 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Product Update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 DC has finally updated the Acrobat Interactive: tutorials for version 3.01. Sorry for the long delay but people wanted custom versions of same to show their people how to get up to speed using Acrobat. They are interactive & fit on floppies and are inteneded as a quick intro to the Acrobat environment. Check out the reader modules for Mac and Windows plus the intro that gives an overview of PDF and how to generate PS. Please feel free to e-mail me at the below e-mails. BTW, this list has been fantastic for all info pertinent to PDF. Bob Moran -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Voice 203-452-1116 Fax 203-452-0416 e-mail remoran@dconstructs.com e-mail remoran@kiwi.futuris.net Web Site: List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 20:59:01-GMT,2841;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24212 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:59:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22395; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:38:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:37:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22331; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:37:46 -0500 Message-ID: <35770604.DD868338@pre-print.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 14:39:45 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Currently this is supported only for the following devices: > p*m, p*mraw, mswin, os2pm, x11alpha > For all of these except x11alpha, you put > -dNOPLATFONTS -dTextAlphaBits=4 > on the command line. For x11alpha, you just put > -dNOPLATFONTS > since it forces both TextAlphaBits and GraphicsAlphaBits to 4. > Pardon my ignorance, but am I interpreting this correctly when I understand that I cannot use GhostScript to translate an EPS document (primarily text) into an anti-aliased TIF or PCX image? > Acrobat Distiller has a number of image resampling options and might be able > to do color smoothing, but I don't know if you can use it to "distill" PDF > to PDF, and I don't know whether Exchange offers the same options for PDF > input (as opposed to PostScript input). I know Acrobat Reader offers > anti-aliased text; I don't know whether it does image interpolation. > I cannot, to the best of my knowledge, use Distiller or Exhange to render a PDF or EPS file as a rastered image. The best results I have gotten are by opening EPS files in PhotoShop, but PhotoShop has a considerable overhead in terms of time, memory, etc. and is not an efficient solution for a batch translation situation. -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 20:59:15-GMT,3231;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24222 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:59:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22386; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:38:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:36:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22244; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:36:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:37:00 -0500 To: PDF List From: hermet@DNINevada.com Subject: [PDF] Blurry bitmaps in PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 My questions are lower in this post, first here's the situation. I have many bitmapped screen captures in my software manual developed using Word 8 (Word 97) that appear just fine on screen and when printed. However they appear degraded (both on screen and when printed) after I write to Acrobat PDF. By the way, the PDF'd text is acceptable but could be better. Distiller is not resolving this problem regardless of whether I adjust the settings for resolution, compression, etc. or turn off all compression. The bulk of the screen captures were developed using these tools and this process: My display settings are 800 X 600, 256 color. I do a Alt + Print Scrn into Blue Sky Software's RoboHELP 4.0's screen capture tool where I clip the image I want to use. I then copy/paste into Word 8 (Word 97) and scale as necessary. Occasionally I paste the image into Visio 4.0 where I will attach callouts prior to pasting into Word and scaling. The callouts appear very crisp and sharp, something for which I have no explanation, unless the callouts are actually another graphic format. My questions are these: (1.) Has anyone succeeded in making such images as I describe above appear clearly in a PDF file, using either PDF Writer or Distiller? If so, how did you do it? (2.) Do I need to redo all screen captures in 600 X 480 at 16 color? Would the resulting images in PDF files appear clearer? (3.) Is there a PDF FAQ somewhere that provides definitive directions for working with these graphics? In searching for solutions to this problem, I find that I'm not alone. Many others have these problems. If this is a problem with Adobe, I'd like to know. Otherwise if any of you have a usable process, I'd appreciate knowing what that is. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Tom -- ==================== Tom Herme Senior Technical Writer DNI Nevada Incorporated 2000 Arrowhead Drive Carson City, NV 89706-0403 Tel: 702.883.3400, Ext 231 Fax: 702.883.9541 mailto:hermet@DNINevada.com ==================== ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jun-1998 22:35:25-GMT,2149;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26365 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 16:35:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA26409; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:06:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:04:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26302; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:04:43 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] word to pdf command line tool? Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 23:03:41 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bd9004$a279c480$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3576F6CF.787B@gsao.med.ge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Does anyone know if there exists a command line tool to generate > PDF documents from Microsoft Word documents? Our Local Render product does exactly this. What is more you get "intelligent" PDF. Take a look at www.docctrl.com where there is a version 1.0 eval for download. Version 1.1 is now in Beta and, naturally, does a whole lot more - including support for Word '95. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 0:11:57-GMT,1963;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28243 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:11:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA30176; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:53:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:51:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30083; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:51:23 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 16:51 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <35770604.DD868338@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Pardon my ignorance, but am I interpreting this correctly when I > understand that I cannot use GhostScript to translate an EPS document > (primarily text) into an anti-aliased TIF or PCX image? Currently, not in one step. Ghostscript can produce anti-aliased pgmraw (8-bit gray-scale) or ppmraw (24-bit RGB), which you can then convert to PCX or TIFF using the freely available pbmplus utilities. Both steps can easily be driven from the command line (on Unix systems). -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 0:19:58-GMT,2359;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28416 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:19:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA30441; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 19:00:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:59:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30370; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:59:32 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 16:51 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <35770604.DD868338@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Pardon my ignorance, but am I interpreting this correctly when I > understand that I cannot use GhostScript to translate an EPS document > (primarily text) into an anti-aliased TIF or PCX image? Currently, not in one step. Ghostscript can produce anti-aliased pgmraw (8-bit gray-scale) or ppmraw (24-bit RGB), which you can then convert to PCX or TIFF using the freely available pbmplus utilities. Both steps can easily be driven from the command line (on Unix systems). -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 3:35:12-GMT,2632;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA01887 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:35:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA03473; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:43:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:41:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03367; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:41:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "McClure, Mary M" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Searching on UNIX Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:41:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA03364 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are having a heck of a time getting the search capability to work in our Unix environment (of the Solaris 2.6 variety) The PDF files were created and Cataloged on Windows 95. We were very careful to retain uppercase in all of our file names and file references. All of the file names conform to the 8.3 format. The PDF files are configured to automatically attach the .PDX file when they are opened. We had some trouble with even this simple task at first, but careful attention to ensuring everything was referenced in uppercase has cleared that problem up. Now the PDX file gets attached OK, and a search operation does present a collection of hits. However, once we select one of the documents listed in the hit display, Reader promptly fails with the enlightening message "Exiting with error code 0x400e0009". Performing a trace indicates a segment violation while attempting to access memory address zero. Everything behaves properly on a Windows platform, it's only on Unix that we encounter this "click on a hit and die" phenomenon. Has anybody else encountered this same problem and found a solution? I'm totally frustrated! Mary McClure CD-ROM Technology Unisys Corporation Mary.McClure@Unisys.com (949) 380-6140 Net² 656-6140 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 9:35:21-GMT,2381;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08627 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 03:35:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA13904; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:06:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:00:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13676; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:00:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980605093920.007d02d0@altair.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: cimqsgt@altair.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 09:39:20 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Simon Tanner Subject: [PDF] Searching PDF's on a CDROM Product In-Reply-To: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60816@mail.paravision.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am creating a CRDOM product which will hold several dozen normal PDF's and some image and text PDF's. This product is going to be sold to Universities as a stand alone information resource in one subject area and is aimed at being low cost to produce and with a low purchase price. Can I ask for advice on the best search engine tool that I can package with on the CDROM to enable customers to search across the CDROM PDF content. I want to avoid the costs of creating a seperate index. The product has to be one I can package with (or on) the CD, be freely distributable (or easily licensed) and need minimum setup by the end user. Any advice would be welcome. Simon =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Simon Tanner Email: S.G.Tanner@herts.ac.uk Digitisation Consultant Phone: 01707 286078 Higher Education Digitisation Service Fax: 01707 286079 University of Hertfordshire Web: http://heds.herts.ac.uk ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 3:35:12-GMT,2632;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA01887 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:35:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA03473; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:43:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:41:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03367; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:41:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "McClure, Mary M" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Searching on UNIX Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:41:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA03364 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are having a heck of a time getting the search capability to work in our Unix environment (of the Solaris 2.6 variety) The PDF files were created and Cataloged on Windows 95. We were very careful to retain uppercase in all of our file names and file references. All of the file names conform to the 8.3 format. The PDF files are configured to automatically attach the .PDX file when they are opened. We had some trouble with even this simple task at first, but careful attention to ensuring everything was referenced in uppercase has cleared that problem up. Now the PDX file gets attached OK, and a search operation does present a collection of hits. However, once we select one of the documents listed in the hit display, Reader promptly fails with the enlightening message "Exiting with error code 0x400e0009". Performing a trace indicates a segment violation while attempting to access memory address zero. Everything behaves properly on a Windows platform, it's only on Unix that we encounter this "click on a hit and die" phenomenon. Has anybody else encountered this same problem and found a solution? I'm totally frustrated! Mary McClure CD-ROM Technology Unisys Corporation Mary.McClure@Unisys.com (949) 380-6140 Net² 656-6140 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 9:35:21-GMT,2381;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08627 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 03:35:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA13904; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:06:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:00:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13676; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:00:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980605093920.007d02d0@altair.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: cimqsgt@altair.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 09:39:20 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Simon Tanner Subject: [PDF] Searching PDF's on a CDROM Product In-Reply-To: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60816@mail.paravision.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am creating a CRDOM product which will hold several dozen normal PDF's and some image and text PDF's. This product is going to be sold to Universities as a stand alone information resource in one subject area and is aimed at being low cost to produce and with a low purchase price. Can I ask for advice on the best search engine tool that I can package with on the CDROM to enable customers to search across the CDROM PDF content. I want to avoid the costs of creating a seperate index. The product has to be one I can package with (or on) the CD, be freely distributable (or easily licensed) and need minimum setup by the end user. Any advice would be welcome. Simon =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Simon Tanner Email: S.G.Tanner@herts.ac.uk Digitisation Consultant Phone: 01707 286078 Higher Education Digitisation Service Fax: 01707 286079 University of Hertfordshire Web: http://heds.herts.ac.uk ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 12:26:23-GMT,1393;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11434 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:26:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18920; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:07:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:05:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18861; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:05:24 -0500 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525661A.00424A55.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:04:22 -0400 Subject: [PDF] PDF and fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can someone tell me if there is an easy way to get a list of all fonts used in a PDF file? What about in a PostScript file? Thanks, RJ Jiwungkul Bellcore rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 12:26:23-GMT,3234;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11435 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:26:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA18113; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:43:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:40:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18031; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:40:40 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980605093920.007d02d0@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60816@mail.paravision.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:39:12 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Searching PDF's on a CDROM Product Cc: Simon Tanner Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Simon, why aren't you using Acrobat Catalog to create the indexes. It is decently fast, and also part of the Acrobat package. When you master the CD, you would have to add the index directory and the index file. You also might have to set the "open index" function with the files, or leave a note that the users should add the index to the searchable index list on their machine (which is a rather easy procedure anyway). The other thing you have to make sure is that the users will have Reader with Search. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _______________ >I am creating a CRDOM product which will hold several dozen normal PDF's >and some image and text PDF's. This product is going to be sold to >Universities as a stand alone information resource in one subject area and >is aimed at being low cost to produce and with a low purchase price. > >Can I ask for advice on the best search engine tool that I can package with >on the CDROM to enable customers to search across the CDROM PDF content. I >want to avoid the costs of creating a seperate index. The product has to >be one I can package with (or on) the CD, be freely distributable (or >easily licensed) and need minimum setup by the end user. > >Any advice would be welcome. > >Simon >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Simon Tanner Email: S.G.Tanner@herts.ac.uk >Digitisation Consultant Phone: 01707 286078 >Higher Education Digitisation Service Fax: 01707 286079 >University of Hertfordshire Web: http://heds.herts.ac.uk ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 12:26:25-GMT,1390;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11441 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:26:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18802; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:04:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:02:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18732; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:02:34 -0500 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <8525661A.0041DC79.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:01:27 -0400 Subject: [PDF] PDF and fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can someone tell me if there is an easy way to get a list of all fonts used in a PDF file? What about in a PostScript file? Thanks, RJ Jiwungkul Bellcore rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 12:48:13-GMT,2837;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11871 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:48:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA19668; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:27:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:25:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19602; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:25:31 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Searching PDF's on a CDROM Product Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:25:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd907c$fdc91480$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980605093920.007d02d0@altair.herts.ac.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Simon wrote: > I am creating a CRDOM product which will hold several dozen normal PDF's > and some image and text PDF's. This product is going to be sold to > Universities as a stand alone information resource in one subject area and > is aimed at being low cost to produce and with a low purchase price. > > Can I ask for advice on the best search engine tool that I can > package with > on the CDROM to enable customers to search across the CDROM PDF > content. I > want to avoid the costs of creating a separate index. The product has to > be one I can package with (or on) the CD, be freely distributable (or > easily licensed) and need minimum setup by the end user. Maybe I'm missing something here but surely what you should do is crate a Acrobat Catalog index, include it on the CD-ROM and then provide the Users with simple instructions on how to include the index in their Reader search facility! Catalog comes in the Acrobat 3 bundle and it is my understanding that you are able to include indexes on Cd-ROMs at no charge. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 12:51:33-GMT,1907;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11925 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:51:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA20086; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:39:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:37:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19974; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:37:03 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF and fonts Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:16:48 +0100 Message-ID: <003f01bd907e$7ec10560$2a6645c2@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8525661A.00424A55.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Something beyond the information given by File > Document Info > Fonts for a PDF file? In general for a PDF file it's difficult; you'd want a pre-flight application or something like PSAlter to analyse/interpret the file. Some well behaved applications list the fonts required near the top of the PostScript. > Can someone tell me if there is an easy way to get a list of > all fonts used > in a PDF file? What about in a PostScript file? > > Thanks, ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 13:31:27-GMT,1690;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12682 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:31:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA21357; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:11:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:08:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21241; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:08:17 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 09:13:11 -0400 From: Melissa Sloan To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] true type fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi. I need a little help. I moved all of the true type fonts into Adobe Type Manager to leave only Type 1 fonts. But when I try to caputre a document, no matter what font is used (tt or t1), an error message comes up - its still looking for the tt fonts. Can anyone tell me how to fix this. I would like to be able to use Capture to scan documents and create pdfs where a t1 font will be substituted for a tt font. Is there any way to do this with out getting this error? Thanks, Melissa ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 13:59:46-GMT,2264;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13219 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:59:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22712; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:41:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:39:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22566; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:39:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3577F326.BCD6AC2E@igd.fhg.de> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 15:31:18 +0200 From: Moritz Schwarz Organization: Fraunhofer-IGD X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF and fonts References: <8525661A.0041DC79.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 in pdf files: just use acrobat exchange: file-documentinfo-fonts in ps files: open document in an editor search for keyword: font moritz rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com wrote: > Can someone tell me if there is an easy way to get a list of all fonts used > in a PDF file? What about in a PostScript file? > > Thanks, > > RJ Jiwungkul > Bellcore > rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Moritz Schwarz Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Department Document Imaging (A1) Rundeturmstr. 6 64283 Darmstadt Germany Room: 258 Phone: +49 (61 51) 155 585 Fax: +49 (61 51) 155 299 mailto:mschwarz@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/www/igd-a1/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 14:00:39-GMT,5810;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13261 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:00:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22662; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:40:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:38:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22516; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:38:05 -0500 From: kgabbert@tribune.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:34:52 -0500 Message-ID: <00068E3F.CE21251@tribune.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] true type fonts To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA22509 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi there! this is a topic I've done some research on and would like to share. It is most likely more info than you ever wanted about true type and type 1 fonts. When I install and configure acrobat for clients, I always ask if I can REMOVE all true type fonts! Even if you move them out of the way, they still cause trouble. For more details, read on.... Best of luck. Kara Gabbert (kgabbert@tribune.com) Fonts - TrueType & Type1... What happens when the same version of a TrueType and Type 1 font are installed? · unpredictable display and printing results · character spacing, line & page breaks · application may display with 1 version · output may use other version · some applications can't display correctly Are TrueType fonts the same on the Mac and the PC? Even though TrueType is supported on both platforms, their implementations are not identical and the base sets come from different vendors! Which output devices work best? TrueType = QuickDraw or TrueImage printers Type 1 = PostScript printers Since, we all work in a high end output environment, it's best to use high quality PostScript fonts with good metrics, from reputable vendors. (stay away from downloading misc. fonts from the internet) TrueType History · original design by Apple Computer, Inc. · avoid single vendor & per font royalty next steps · Apple licensed to Microsoft · April 1991 Windows 3.1 release future developments · Apple TrueTypeGX · Microsoft TrueType Open specification Type 1 / PostScript History originally developed in 1985 by Adobe specific purpose was fonts to be used with PostScript compatible printers next steps 1989, Adobe released ATM - which allows PostScript fonts to be viewed cleanly on a monitor, as well as print to non-PostScript printers future developments OpenType handles all fonts with a unified registry, which means that both Type 1 and TrueType fonts will be reliably supported across all platforms. In the future, both Microsoft and Adobe will invest in promoting and developing OpenType fonts, and as part of the agreement between Microsoft and Adobe, Adobe has agreed to convert some of the existing popular Type 1 fonts to the new format. TrueType Type 1 PDL TrueImage PostScript Describe Outline quadratic splines bezier, cubic curves Advantages draws fast defined curves Bitmap Outline (2 files) # of Files 1 file screen printer Icons 3 'A's 3 'A's 'A' horizontal lines Name no point size point size no point size Storage suitcase suitcase loose in suitcase Hinting Process built into font built into rasterizer (printer) What is hinting? The hinting process is used to fine tune character appearance at small sizes and low resolutions. Hints are instructions that tell the computer how to modify character outlines so they fit the required grid of dots. What this boils down to is that TrueType font files have a tendency to be larger than Type1 font files and their printing quality is more dependent on the amount of effort and expertise the designer has used to "tweak" their type. When you go to upgrade or buy a new printer, PostScript fonts can immediately take advantage of the new rasterizer and TrueType fonts have to be upgraded to use the new features. _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: [PDF] true type fonts From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com at Internet_TCO Date: 6/5/98 9:13 AM Hi. I need a little help. I moved all of the true type fonts into Adobe Type Manager to leave only Type 1 fonts. But when I try to caputre a document, no matter what font is used (tt or t1), an error message comes up - its still looking for the tt fonts. Can anyone tell me how to fix this. I would like to be able to use Capture to scan documents and create pdfs where a t1 font will be substituted for a tt font. Is there any way to do this with out getting this error? Thanks, Melissa ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 14:07:04-GMT,2718;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13448 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:07:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23373; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:54:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:52:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23267; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:52:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3577F830.4DF3@gsao.med.ge.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 08:52:48 -0500 From: Greg Derzay 4-6601 GSAO Organization: G.E. Medical Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] word to pdf command line tool? References: <3576F6CF.787B@gsao.med.ge.com> <199806041944.PAA04705@next.aps.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks for the quick response Mark! I appreciate your help. Greg Mark Doyle wrote: > > On Thu, 04 Jun 1998, Greg Derzay 4-6601 GSAO wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there exists a command line tool to generate > > PDF documents from Microsoft Word documents? > > > > Reason: I need web access to master Word documents, but most browsers > > are running on Solaris or SGI platform. I want to be able to > > automatically generate a PDF document on the fly when clicking on > > the Word link. > > > > I apologize if this is a newbie question...afterall, I'm a newbie! > > Try: > > Company: Computerised Document Control Ltd > P.O. Box 5 > Chepstow, NP6 6YU > United Kingdom > +44(0) 1291 641554 > > Web Site: www.docctrl.com > Product: Local Render version 1.0 > > Contact: David Cornwell davec@docctrl.com > Support: support@docctrl.com > > So far it works well for us (initial testing). > > Cheers, > Mark > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 14:09:07-GMT,2156;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13464 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:09:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23519; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:56:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:54:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23384; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:54:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199806051354.JAA18979@dax.cc.uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:52:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] ANNOC: Pdfmarks: Links and Forms Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all; I've written two internet articles on Pdfmarks covering links and forms. The URL: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/lnk_forms.html Written from the perspective of a TeX user, the articles are interactive and contain, I hope, a lot of valuable information. Postscript (and, of course, TeX) users can copy and paste code swatches into your own source document. Your comments would be appreciated. Regards, dps Dr. D. P. Story Department of Mathematical Sciences The University of Akron Akron, OH 44325 tele: (330) 972-7514 e-mail: dpstory@uakron.edu Home Page: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Home of ... e-Calculus: A Calculus I Tutorial on the WeB. Written in TeX and converted to the PDF format. See it at http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html and of ... An Algebra Review in 10 Lessons TeX to PDF http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 14:24:43-GMT,2776;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13837 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:24:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24155; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:07:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:05:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23982; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:04:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3577FB10.2095@gsao.med.ge.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 09:05:04 -0500 From: Greg Derzay 4-6601 GSAO Organization: G.E. Medical Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] word to pdf command line tool? References: <000701bd9004$a279c480$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks David, We would obviously need the command line tool....however, there is just a group of six of us who need this tool, and $3000 is a bit too pricey. If it were under $1000, we would consider it. Is it possible to get a demo copy of the 1.1 so I could show it to the others here at GE Medical Systems? Thanks for your response in any case. Greg David Cornwell wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there exists a command line tool to generate > > PDF documents from Microsoft Word documents? > > Our Local Render product does exactly this. What is more you get > "intelligent" PDF. Take a look at www.docctrl.com where there is a version > 1.0 eval for download. Version 1.1 is now in Beta and, naturally, does a > whole lot more - including support for Word '95. > > drc > --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 14:36:36-GMT,2032;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14076 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:36:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24796; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:17:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:14:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24608; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:14:55 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] true type fonts Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:06:40 +0100 Message-ID: <004001bd908c$2ada1b40$2a6645c2@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Capture needs the fonts it installs. You cannot substitute for them. So far as I know. Aandi > > Hi. I need a little help. I moved all of > the true type fonts into Adobe Type Manager > to leave only Type 1 fonts. But when I try > to caputre a document, no matter what font > is used (tt or t1), an error message comes > up - its still looking for the tt fonts. > > Can anyone tell me how to fix this. I would > like to be able to use Capture to scan > documents and create pdfs where a t1 font > will be substituted for a tt font. Is there > any way to do this with out getting this > error? ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 16:12:26-GMT,1968;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16410 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:12:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28882; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:44:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:41:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28698; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:41:54 -0500 X-Sender: quartet@pop.wanadoo.fr (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.3 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:44:55 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: quartet@wanadoo.fr (Eric Wannin) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF and fonts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Can someone tell me if there is an easy way to get a list of all fonts used >in a PDF file? What about in a PostScript file? > >Thanks, > >RJ Jiwungkul >Bellcore >rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com > You can have the list of the fonts used in a PDF file with Enfocus PitStop 1.5 which make a difference between system and embedded fonts - and list them. ================================================== Eric Wannin - Sales & Marketing Manager Quartet Systems Saint Veran 84220 Goult France Tel : 04 90 72 48 48 - Tel Intl : 33 4 90 72 48 48 Fax : 04 90 72 42 80 - Fax Intl : 33 4 90 72 42 80 E.mail : quartet@wanadoo.fr WEB : finishing construction, coming very soon. ================================================== ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 17:09:19-GMT,5440;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17722 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:09:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA32655; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:53:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:52:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32584; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:52:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:50:53 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] true type fonts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA32581 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 6/5/98 06:34 AM , kgabbert@tribune.com wrote: > >Hi there! this is a topic I've done some research on and would like to >share. It >is most likely more info than you ever wanted about true type and type 1 >fonts. >When I install and configure acrobat for clients, I always ask if I can REMOVE >all true type fonts! Even if you move them out of the way, they still cause >trouble. For more details, read on.... >Best of luck. Kara Gabbert (kgabbert@tribune.com) > >Fonts - TrueType & Type1... >What happens when the same version of a TrueType and Type 1 font are >installed? >… unpredictable display and printing results >… character spacing, line & page breaks >… application may display with 1 version >… output may use other version >… some applications can't display correctly > >Are TrueType fonts the same on the Mac and the PC? >Even though TrueType is supported on both platforms, their implementations are >not identical and the base sets come from different vendors! > >Which output devices work best? >TrueType = QuickDraw or TrueImage printers >Type 1 = PostScript printers Kara, Thank you for a very good description of the characteristics of both Type 1 and TrueType fonts. However, on behalf of Adobe Systems, I would like to clear up some confusion and/or misconceptions related to the two type formats. First, all Adobe PostScript implementations of recent years provide FULL NATIVE SUPPORT for TrueType fonts. Adobe drivers download TrueType fonts as "Type 42" fonts. These are not "converted to Type 1" fonts, but all the TrueType font information in a PostScript "wrapper." Adobe not only licensed the full, official TrueType rasterizer, but also fixed bugs and performance problems found in the code. There is absolutely no quality or performance loss engendered in using TrueType with Adobe PostScript imaging software. Thus, in your "which output devices work best" classification above, Adobe PostScript printers work "best" with either format. Similarly, Adobe Acrobat fully supports TrueType as Type 42. Assuming that you have a well-crafted TrueType font from a reliable font foundry, there is no technical reason why TrueType fonts should not be used in PostScript and PDF workflows! OpenType is effectively a repackaging of both TrueType and Type 1 formats into a common packaging scheme for common handling by operating systems, drivers, and applications with more rational functionality for applications. Having said that, I would emphasize the "well-crafted TrueType font" that I mentioned above. I will extend that to "well-crafted Type 1 font." One reason that TrueType has gotten a bum rap amongst publishing professionals is due to older imagesetters didn't directly support TrueType as Type 42. Most such early Adobe PostScript Level 2 have upgrades that do support Type 42. However, we believe the biggest problem is that there are very many TrueType fonts "floating around" out there as freeware, shareware, or pirated-ware that are either poorly crafted or n-th generation conversions (via Fontographer or other conversion means) of Type 1 fonts -- each conversion losing some of the original design subtleties. By the way, poor conversions of TrueType fonts to Type 1 show similar quality degradation. We strongly support your observation that problems do occur when both TrueType and Type 1 fonts with the same NAME are installed on a single system. The symptoms you report above are very real and do occur. This is generally a problem on the Macintosh due to Apple's insistence on shipping TrueType versions of Courier, Times, Helvetica, Palatino, and Symbol. Anyone using Adobe PostScript printing on a Macintosh should install ATM (Adobe Type Manager) with the Type 1 versions of these fonts after having deleted the TrueType font suitcases of TrueType Courier, Times, Helvetica, Palatino, and Symbol. This needs to be done on any new Macintosh or after ANY MacOS upgrade! Note that ATM and base fonts ship with all Adobe PostScript 3 printers these days. - Dov Isaacs Director of Technology Analysis Printing & Systems Division Adobe Systems Incorporated ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 17:09:39-GMT,1541;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17736 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:09:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA32481; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:50:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:48:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32322; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:48:41 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980605114351.007650a8@qni.com> X-Sender: bdavis@qni.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 11:44:18 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Brad Davis Subject: [PDF] PDF in PowerPoint Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know if it is possible to place a PDF file in a PowerPoint presentation or must you save the PowerPoint out as a PDF and then insert the other PDF within the PDF file output from the PDF Writer in PowerPoint? Thanks for any suggestions. Brad Davis bdavis@recordscenter.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 17:15:01-GMT,1657;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17825 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:15:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA00301; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:00:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:59:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00201; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:59:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:58:04 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] true type fonts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Confirmed. That is correct! - Dov At 6/5/98 07:06 AM , Aandi Inston wrote: > >Capture needs the fonts it installs. You cannot substitute >for them. So far as I know. > >Aandi > >> >> Hi. I need a little help. I moved all of >> the true type fonts into Adobe Type Manager >> to leave only Type 1 fonts. But when I try >> to caputre a document, no matter what font >> is used (tt or t1), an error message comes >> up - its still looking for the tt fonts. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 17:24:54-GMT,2998;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18135 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:24:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA00845; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:10:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:09:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00738; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:09:18 -0500 Message-ID: <357826F6.67C0B4E1@document-solutions.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:12:23 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] true type fonts References: <004001bd908c$2ada1b40$2a6645c2@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi is correct. Capture does indeed require the presence of certain TT fonts on the system to run the Capture engine. Why this is the case is beyond my limited understanding. Everything about Capture and Capture Reviewer defaults to TT fonts -- even through PS fonts are INFINITELY prefereable in any PDF application. I for one would be VERY pleased to see the next rev of the Capture engine default to PS fonts in all cases, substituting TT only as necessary. Aandi Inston wrote: > Capture needs the fonts it installs. You cannot substitute > for them. So far as I know. > > Aandi > > > > > Hi. I need a little help. I moved all of > > the true type fonts into Adobe Type Manager > > to leave only Type 1 fonts. But when I try > > to caputre a document, no matter what font > > is used (tt or t1), an error message comes > > up - its still looking for the tt fonts. > > > > Can anyone tell me how to fix this. I would > > like to be able to use Capture to scan > > documents and create pdfs where a t1 font > > will be substituted for a tt font. Is there > > any way to do this with out getting this > > error? > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 17:31:32-GMT,2427;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18313 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:31:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01127; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:13:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:12:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01064; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:12:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3578279A.1CFF627@document-solutions.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:15:06 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] true type fonts References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dov Isaacs wrote: > Confirmed. That is correct! > > - Dov ...and it's also very unfortunate.... > > > At 6/5/98 07:06 AM , Aandi Inston wrote: > > > >Capture needs the fonts it installs. You cannot substitute > >for them. So far as I know. > > > >Aandi > > > >> > >> Hi. I need a little help. I moved all of > >> the true type fonts into Adobe Type Manager > >> to leave only Type 1 fonts. But when I try > >> to caputre a document, no matter what font > >> is used (tt or t1), an error message comes > >> up - its still looking for the tt fonts. > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 18:12:22-GMT,3584;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19282 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:12:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA03250; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:56:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:54:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03150; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:54:47 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] true type fonts Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:52:25 +0100 Message-ID: <004601bd90aa$e1f65820$2a6645c2@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > First, all Adobe PostScript implementations of recent years provide > FULL NATIVE SUPPORT for TrueType fonts. Adobe drivers > download TrueType > fonts as "Type 42" fonts. These are not "converted to Type 1" > fonts, but > all the TrueType font information in a PostScript "wrapper." Adobe not > only licensed the full, official TrueType rasterizer, but also fixed > bugs and performance problems found in the code. There is > absolutely no > quality or performance loss engendered in using TrueType with Adobe > PostScript imaging software. Thus, in your "which output devices work > best" classification above, Adobe PostScript printers work "best" with > either format. Similarly, Adobe Acrobat fully supports TrueType as > Type 42. > > Assuming that you have a well-crafted TrueType font from a reliable > font foundry, there is no technical reason why TrueType fonts should > not be used in PostScript and PDF workflows! OpenType is effectively > a repackaging of both TrueType and Type 1 formats into a common > packaging scheme for common handling by operating systems, drivers, > and applications with more rational functionality for applications. Except for one important issue - which I find it strange that it is largely unreported and unlamented. If you export PS or EPS from Acrobat on Windows TrueType fonts are not included; Courier will end up being substituted. This is not a bug; it is as per the definition. Note that exporting PS is not the same as printing, including printing to file, though the end result may seem very similar (until you use TT fonts...). It meant I had to reject "export PS" for an application I was writing, and resort to unpleasant tricks with the printer driver instead. I have not tested, but the documentation also states that you will not get TrueType on Macintosh, and you won't get substitution ("faux") fonts on either platform. According to the documentation, only Unix does all fonts properly. This exposes a major weakness in using "export" instead of "print", yet as I say this is not commented on. I assume people are actually avoiding TrueType (or not using type 42). Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 19:09:34-GMT,2999;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20540 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:09:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05829; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:48:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:47:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05775; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:47:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199806051847.LAA25618@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 11:47:02 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "Aandi Inston" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] true type fonts Cc: In-Reply-To: <004601bd90aa$e1f65820$2a6645c2@gateway> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 6/5/98 10:52 AM , Aandi Inston wrote: >Except for one important issue - which I find it strange that it is >largely unreported and unlamented. > >If you export PS or EPS from Acrobat on Windows TrueType fonts are not >included; Courier will end up being substituted. This is not a bug; >it is as per the definition. Note that exporting PS is not the same >as printing, including printing to file, though the end result may seem >very similar (until you use TT fonts...). > >It meant I had to reject "export PS" for an application I was writing, >and resort to unpleasant tricks with the printer driver instead. > >I have not tested, but the documentation also states that you will not >get TrueType on Macintosh, and you won't get substitution ("faux") fonts >on either platform. According to the documentation, only Unix does all >fonts properly. > >This exposes a major weakness in using "export" instead of "print", yet >as I say this is not commented on. I assume people are actually avoiding >TrueType (or not using type 42). > >Aandi Aandi, I don't know how you have your system configured, but when create PDF files via AdobePS 4.2.3, distill via Acrobat Distiller 3.02 and embed fonts (subsetted), and then export either EPS or PS with settings for Level 2 and to include embedded fonts, the TrueType as Type 42 fonts are indeed exported. This functionality is there and it works! If you don't embed the TrueType font in the PDF file, the "export" PS and EPS will not have the embedded font defintions. This is true for both Type 1 and TrueType! - Dov ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 19:14:35-GMT,3395;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20640 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:14:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA06262; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:56:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:55:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06167; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:55:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199806051847.LAA25618@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 11:47:02 -0700 Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "Aandi Inston" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] true type fonts Cc: In-Reply-To: <004601bd90aa$e1f65820$2a6645c2@gateway> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 6/5/98 10:52 AM , Aandi Inston wrote: >Except for one important issue - which I find it strange that it is >largely unreported and unlamented. > >If you export PS or EPS from Acrobat on Windows TrueType fonts are not >included; Courier will end up being substituted. This is not a bug; >it is as per the definition. Note that exporting PS is not the same >as printing, including printing to file, though the end result may seem >very similar (until you use TT fonts...). > >It meant I had to reject "export PS" for an application I was writing, >and resort to unpleasant tricks with the printer driver instead. > >I have not tested, but the documentation also states that you will not >get TrueType on Macintosh, and you won't get substitution ("faux") fonts >on either platform. According to the documentation, only Unix does all >fonts properly. > >This exposes a major weakness in using "export" instead of "print", yet >as I say this is not commented on. I assume people are actually avoiding >TrueType (or not using type 42). > >Aandi Aandi, I don't know how you have your system configured, but when create PDF files via AdobePS 4.2.3, distill via Acrobat Distiller 3.02 and embed fonts (subsetted), and then export either EPS or PS with settings for Level 2 and to include embedded fonts, the TrueType as Type 42 fonts are indeed exported. This functionality is there and it works! If you don't embed the TrueType font in the PDF file, the "export" PS and EPS will not have the embedded font defintions. This is true for both Type 1 and TrueType! - Dov ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 19:23:25-GMT,1875;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20851 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:23:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07020; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:12:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:11:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06943; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:11:30 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825661A.0069015A.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:10:21 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3.0 and suggestions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I need this info FAST, so please help. I currently have Acrobat 3.0. Do I have Acrobat Catalog with it or is it some plug in? Also, what is it and how do I obtain it if I dont have it. Also, we are about to submit a purchase order for new stuff. What plug-ins do you suggest I get with it? I am interested in "Redwing" which allows you to extract text and tables from PDF files. Does anyone know if you can re-insert this data in PDF's. We do 2000+ page catalogs and Distill to PDF. Any other plug-ins or add on suggestions? Please let me know so I can order something while I have the money available. BEST REGARDS, rob ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 19:35:01-GMT,2275;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21137 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:35:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07602; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:21:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:20:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07540; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:20:36 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF in PowerPoint Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:20:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd90b6$fb068cc0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980605114351.007650a8@qni.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Brad > Does anyone know if it is possible to place a PDF file in a PowerPoint > presentation or must you save the PowerPoint out as a PDF and then insert > the other PDF within the PDF file output from the PDF Writer in > PowerPoint? I guess it depends on what you mean "place a PDF file". The way we have been known to do this is to select the PDF file (at the required Zoom) using the Select graphics tool and then simply paste into the MS application (Word &/or Powerpoint) - or have I missed the point? drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 19:46:51-GMT,4013;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21434 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:46:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08369; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:32:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:31:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08298; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:31:37 -0500 Message-ID: <357847B3.871982AE@odyssey.on.ca> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 15:32:03 -0400 From: Rob McLaughlin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hermet@DNINevada.com, PDF List Subject: [PDF] Blurry graphics in PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I have many bitmapped screen captures in my software manual developed > using Word 8 (Word 97) that appear just fine on screen and when printed. > However they appear degraded (both on screen and when printed) after I > write to Acrobat PDF. By the way, the PDF'd text is acceptable but could > be better. Distiller is not resolving this problem regardless of whether > I adjust the settings for resolution, compression, > etc. or turn off all compression. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My first suspicion is that you are using PDFWriter from Word - bottom line=PDFWriter is for text only (Word) or spreadsheets (Excel = text in rows & cols) but def. not for graphics. For graphics you'll need Distiller. However, even changing the Distiller settings won't compensate for the fact that Word was never intended to be a graphics/page-layout program. That said, if you're serious about including graphics in a doc, then choose a *real* pagelayout program rather than a wordprocessor (your choice of Quark, Pagemaker among others). Once you've made that move, my following response to a similar question on the Pagemaker list may be of some assistance. > I came across an excellent article for Quark users which describes how to > set up Distiller for reliable file creation in a high end prepress > production environment. Does anyone know of a similar article or tutorial > coming from a PageMaker angle? > We've been doing the largest percent of our work as PDF's from PM for some time now. I read the article you mentioned and didn't see anything that would change much in a PM scenario. There is however one issue that is PM specific that took us a little trial & error to detect (that apparently is not an issue in Q). Rather than File>Create PDF, we find that "printing" to Dist.Assistant works well for us. There's a little more control within the print dialogue box - but here's where the catch was. Within that dialogue, there are buttons down the right side, one of which being "Options". You then have options for TIFFs/Image>Send Image Data...by default this set to "Optimized" and should be changed to "Normal". We found that whatever compression etc. is applied when TIFFs are "optimized", the resolution could not be corrected by up-ing the downsample setting in Distiller. Besides this point, we suggest doing some test samples with your printer to determine the best suitable output while maintaining a reasonable file size (eg. downsample rate could be less than 400dpi and compression could be Med. rather than Low etc.) Hope this helps........ Rob McLaughlin ARNELL Graphics & Design Woodstock, Ont. CANADA ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 20:56:07-GMT,2802;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23072 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:56:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12077; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:37:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:35:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11970; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:35:51 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.0 and suggestions Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:12:48 +0100 Message-ID: <004801bd90c1$623573c0$2a6645c2@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8825661A.0069015A.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I need this info FAST, so please help. > > I currently have Acrobat 3.0. Do I have Acrobat Catalog > with it or is it some plug in? Also, what is it and how > do I obtain it if I dont have it. Acrobat Catalog is included with Acrobat 3.0. So long as you understand that Acrobat 3.0 is not the same as the free Acrobat Reader 3.0. Catalog is a separate program, not a plug-in - look for it in your menus. > > Also, we are about to submit a purchase order for new > stuff. What plug-ins do you suggest I get with it? > > I am interested in "Redwing" which allows you to extract > text and tables from PDF files. > > Does anyone know if you can re-insert this data in PDF's. By remaking a page and redistilling. Is there much call for programs to cut and paste text and tables between PDF files? I can't see much need for it where I'm sitting, but perhaps I'm missing something... > > We do 2000+ page catalogs and Distill to PDF. Any other > plug-ins or add on suggestions? > > Please let me know so I can order something while I have > the money available. Well, I think you should look at our plug-ins (www.quite.com), but then I would. Take a walk through www.pdfzone.com. Many of the plug-ins have demos available. You might be particularly interested in PitStop if you are messing with PDF files that already exist. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 21:21:31-GMT,2283;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23653 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:21:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14163; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:09:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:08:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14078; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:08:42 -0500 Message-ID: <35785ED4.69C2405@pre-print.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 15:10:58 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: jason.ling@pre-print.com, almin.surani@pre-print.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > Pardon my ignorance, but am I interpreting this correctly when I > > understand that I cannot use GhostScript to translate an EPS document > > (primarily text) into an anti-aliased TIF or PCX image? > > Currently, not in one step. Ghostscript can produce anti-aliased pgmraw > (8-bit gray-scale) or ppmraw (24-bit RGB), which you can then convert to PCX > or TIFF using the freely available pbmplus utilities. Both steps can easily > be driven from the command line (on Unix systems). > Thank you Peter. But will the TIFF file be anti-aliased, and can I then translate the PCX into an 8-bit colour document? -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 23:13:15-GMT,5022;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26147 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:13:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA19014; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:56:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:55:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18951; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:55:14 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] true type fonts: important correction Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:53:40 +0100 Message-ID: <005901bd90d4$d87ed860$2a6645c2@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <004601bd90aa$e1f65820$2a6645c2@gateway> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Further research has shown that exporting a PostScript or EPS file from Windows Exchange DOES include TrueType fonts. However, it does so as a type 42 font in all cases, even if level 1 is requested. So long as you can print type 42 fonts, you are fine. If not, you get Courier (typically). If you aren't sure of your printer/imagesetter's capabilities, try this handy test file: %! [ (I am a level 1 printer, I can't count to 42) (I am a level 2 (or more) printer, but I can't print type 42 fonts) (I can eat type 42 fonts for breakfast) ] /languagelevel where not { 0 } { pop languagelevel 2 lt { 0 } { 42 /FontType resourcestatus { pop pop 2 } { 1 } ifelse } ifelse } ifelse get /Helvetica findfont 14 scalefont setfont 72 500 moveto show showpage %% Aandi > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Aandi Inston > Sent: Friday, 5 June, 1998 18:52 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] true type fonts > > > > > First, all Adobe PostScript implementations of recent years provide > > FULL NATIVE SUPPORT for TrueType fonts. Adobe drivers > > download TrueType > > fonts as "Type 42" fonts. These are not "converted to Type 1" > > fonts, but > > all the TrueType font information in a PostScript > "wrapper." Adobe not > > only licensed the full, official TrueType rasterizer, but also fixed > > bugs and performance problems found in the code. There is > > absolutely no > > quality or performance loss engendered in using TrueType with Adobe > > PostScript imaging software. Thus, in your "which output > devices work > > best" classification above, Adobe PostScript printers work > "best" with > > either format. Similarly, Adobe Acrobat fully supports TrueType as > > Type 42. > > > > Assuming that you have a well-crafted TrueType font from a reliable > > font foundry, there is no technical reason why TrueType fonts should > > not be used in PostScript and PDF workflows! OpenType is effectively > > a repackaging of both TrueType and Type 1 formats into a common > > packaging scheme for common handling by operating systems, drivers, > > and applications with more rational functionality for applications. > > Except for one important issue - which I find it strange that it is > largely unreported and unlamented. > > If you export PS or EPS from Acrobat on Windows TrueType fonts are not > included; Courier will end up being substituted. This is not a bug; > it is as per the definition. Note that exporting PS is not the same > as printing, including printing to file, though the end > result may seem > very similar (until you use TT fonts...). > > It meant I had to reject "export PS" for an application I was writing, > and resort to unpleasant tricks with the printer driver instead. > > I have not tested, but the documentation also states that you will not > get TrueType on Macintosh, and you won't get substitution > ("faux") fonts > on either platform. According to the documentation, only Unix does all > fonts properly. > > This exposes a major weakness in using "export" instead of > "print", yet > as I say this is not commented on. I assume people are > actually avoiding > TrueType (or not using type 42). > > Aandi > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jun-1998 23:21:39-GMT,2673;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26307 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:21:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19774; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:12:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:11:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19694; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:11:02 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.0 and suggestions Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 00:10:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bd90d7$2cec6460$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <8825661A.0069015A.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I currently have Acrobat 3.0. Do I have Acrobat Catalog > with it or is it some plug in? Also, what is it and how > do I obtain it if I dont have it. drc: should be on the same CD > Also, we are about to submit a purchase order for new > stuff. What plug-ins do you suggest I get with it? > > I am interested in "Redwing" which allows you to extract > text and tables from PDF files. DRC: I suggest that you look at ForTE for text and information extraction. Look at www.bcl-computers.com. > We do 2000+ page catalogs and Distill to PDF. Any other > plug-ins or add on suggestions? > > Please let me know so I can order something while I have > the money available. Someone keen to spend cash is always welcome ;-) On a purely selfish basis I suggest hat you spend at least some cash on products which are at www.docctrl.com - you know you need them - but can you afford them? ;-) drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-Jun-1998 2:08:59-GMT,3059;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29532 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:08:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA25342; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:54:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:53:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25283; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:53:05 -0500 Message-ID: <004501bd90ed$68c1eb70$2f48bacd@dale.querisoft.com> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF in PowerPoint Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:49:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm not sure this is what you're looking for, but it is possible to place a link to a PDF file within a Powerpoint presentation such that you can start Exchange -- or Reader for that matter -- from within the presentation. I happen to use Powerpoint 97 -- although I believe the same basic technique is supported in earlier versions. Search on 'Hyperlink' or 'Action Settings' in help for detailed information. In brief, place whatever object you want into the presentation -- this could be a shape, clip art, text, or whatever. Right-click on the object and the select 'Action Settings' from the resulting menu. To launch a PDF file, select the option 'Run Program.' You'll need to first point to the executable (Exchange or Reader) followed with the name of the PDF file. When you are showing the presentation, clicking on the object will launch the program and open the PDF file. HTH, Dale Gardner -----Original Message----- From: Brad Davis To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 1:04 PM Subject: [PDF] PDF in PowerPoint > >Does anyone know if it is possible to place a PDF file in a PowerPoint >presentation or must you save the PowerPoint out as a PDF and then insert >the other PDF within the PDF file output from the PDF Writer in PowerPoint? > >Thanks for any suggestions. > >Brad Davis >bdavis@recordscenter.com > > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-Jun-1998 4:44:50-GMT,2677;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02216 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:44:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA30625; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:32:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:29:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA30510; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:29:50 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Jun 98 21:29 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, jason.ling@pre-print.com, almin.surani@pre-print.com In-reply-to: <35785ED4.69C2405@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> > Pardon my ignorance, but am I interpreting this correctly when I >> > understand that I cannot use GhostScript to translate an EPS document >> > (primarily text) into an anti-aliased TIF or PCX image? >> >> Currently, not in one step. Ghostscript can produce anti-aliased pgmraw >> (8-bit gray-scale) or ppmraw (24-bit RGB), which you can then convert to PCX >> or TIFF using the freely available pbmplus utilities. Both steps can easily >> be driven from the command line (on Unix systems). >> > Thank you Peter. But will the TIFF file be anti-aliased, and can I then > translate the PCX into an 8-bit colour document? The pgmraw or ppmraw file will be anti-aliased if you specify -dTextAlphaBits= or -dGraphicsAlphaBits= on the command line. If you ask for 24-bit RGB TIFF output, the TIFF file will be anti-aliased, because no conversion will be done on the 24-bit data. If you only ask for 8-bit color output, you can't expect anti-aliasing, because there aren't enough different colors to work with; but I don't know what pbmplus does in that case. You might also try some other free utilities, like ImageMagick. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-Jun-1998 4:46:38-GMT,3073;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02259 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:46:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA30856; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:39:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:38:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA30806; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:38:09 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Jun 98 21:29 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, jason.ling@pre-print.com, almin.surani@pre-print.com In-reply-to: <35785ED4.69C2405@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> > Pardon my ignorance, but am I interpreting this correctly when I >> > understand that I cannot use GhostScript to translate an EPS document >> > (primarily text) into an anti-aliased TIF or PCX image? >> >> Currently, not in one step. Ghostscript can produce anti-aliased pgmraw >> (8-bit gray-scale) or ppmraw (24-bit RGB), which you can then convert to PCX >> or TIFF using the freely available pbmplus utilities. Both steps can easily >> be driven from the command line (on Unix systems). >> > Thank you Peter. But will the TIFF file be anti-aliased, and can I then > translate the PCX into an 8-bit colour document? The pgmraw or ppmraw file will be anti-aliased if you specify -dTextAlphaBits= or -dGraphicsAlphaBits= on the command line. If you ask for 24-bit RGB TIFF output, the TIFF file will be anti-aliased, because no conversion will be done on the 24-bit data. If you only ask for 8-bit color output, you can't expect anti-aliasing, because there aren't enough different colors to work with; but I don't know what pbmplus does in that case. You might also try some other free utilities, like ImageMagick. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-Jun-1998 13:32:11-GMT,7226;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11250 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 07:32:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA12509; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:09:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:05:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12350; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:05:31 -0500 Message-ID: <357930EB.83B1C933@realworld.com.au> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 23:07:15 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Wierdness in Reader et al.... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------224DB31845C064C87FB58A0E" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --------------224DB31845C064C87FB58A0E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following text is from a message and thread about a week old, for which I only just received a bounced mail message, go figure. The thread concerned problems with Links, Forms and opening characteristics of documents ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Firstly A big thank you to everyone who has responded to me on this thread. All of your comments have been helpful and to the point. Love this list! FWIW I arrived with some bottom line info: 1: "Bad Parameters" error between PDF's There is a documented bug in Exchange and Reader which was causing my problems of "Bad Parameters" Essentially you cannot ask Exchange / Reader to open a single page pdf (menu screen) in Continuous Page view by a Form tool, IF the file you are creating the Form button in is a multi page pdf. (authored paper) i.e.. Exchange / Reader spits the dummy on the logic when asked to open the other single page file in Continuous Page View. Interestingly the Form link does initially work from the 1st or 2nd page of the pdf, but after then the error "Bad Parameter" kicks in on subsequent duplicated form buttons. The answer is to NEVER use Continuous Page view in the target pdf view. Adobe tech support say it has been noted and will be dealt with. 2: Rdr/ Ex refuses to let go of Full screen mode Adobe say no one has ever previously noted the reluctance of Exch /Rdr to "let go" of Full Screen mode when linking between PDF's, ( I thought this would be a fairly common problem) They say they have no reason why it shouldn't ... but it doesnt and they will add it to the list BUT THEN ... Tracie DeVoe provided a sensational work around. If the previous document is in full screen mode Rdr/Exch stays that way until taken out, so leave the 1st pdf set to open in full screen mode, then use the Form tool to add TWO actions. Firstly, add Menu Item>View Full Screen which actually TOGGLES between views, which reverses the current view. So Acrobat releases Full screen view just before the second action which is File Open>... set the second document to open however you want. Thanks Tracie, You get my Edward De Bono Award for lateral thinking for the month! I have tested the procedure as Tracie suggested and it works fine on the PC in Exch/Rdr. On the Mac I get an ugly "flashing as it changes views, but damm it works! Also Tracie you are correct, Exchange doesn't let you change pages in the Form tool when using Go To View, you need to use the File Open.. Don't know why...? Thanks a million once again to all other listoids who have helped me on this thread. Dean ( Back from the Twilght Zone! ) Laffan Real World Productions --------------224DB31845C064C87FB58A0E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following text is from a message and thread about a week old, for which I only just received a bounced mail message, go figure.

    The thread concerned problems with Links, Forms and opening characteristics of documents


    Firstly A big thank you to everyone who has responded to me on this
    thread. All of your comments have been helpful and to the point.
    Love this list!

     FWIW I arrived with some bottom line info:
     

    1: "Bad Parameters" error between PDF's

    There is a documented bug in Exchange and Reader which was causing my
    problems of "Bad Parameters" Essentially you cannot ask Exchange /
    Reader to open a single page pdf (menu screen) in Continuous Page view
    by a Form tool, IF the file you are creating the Form button in is a
    multi page pdf. (authored paper)  i.e.. Exchange / Reader spits the
    dummy on the logic when asked to open the other single page file  in
    Continuous Page View. Interestingly the Form link does initially work
    from the 1st or 2nd page of the pdf, but after then the error "Bad
    Parameter" kicks in on subsequent duplicated form buttons. The answer is
    to NEVER use Continuous Page view in the target pdf view.

    Adobe tech support say it has been noted and will be dealt with.
     

    2: Rdr/ Ex refuses to let go of Full screen mode

    Adobe say no one has ever previously noted the reluctance of Exch /Rdr
    to "let go" of Full Screen mode when linking between PDF's,  ( I thought
    this would be a fairly common problem)
    They say they have no reason why it shouldn't ... but it doesnt and they
    will add it to the list

    BUT THEN ... Tracie DeVoe provided a sensational work around.

    If the previous document is in full screen mode Rdr/Exch stays that way
    until taken out,  so leave the 1st pdf set to open in full screen mode,
    then use the Form tool to add TWO actions.

    Firstly, add  Menu Item>View Full Screen which actually TOGGLES between
    views, which reverses the current view. So Acrobat releases Full screen
    view just before the second action which is File Open>... set the second
    document to open however you want.

    Thanks Tracie, You get my  Edward De Bono Award for lateral thinking for
    the month!

    I have tested the procedure as Tracie suggested and it works fine on the
    PC in Exch/Rdr. On the Mac I get an ugly "flashing as it changes views,
    but damm it works!

    Also Tracie you are correct, Exchange doesn't let you change pages in
    the Form tool when using Go To  View, you need to use the File Open..
    Don't know why...?

    Thanks a million once again to all other listoids who have helped me on
    this thread.
     

    Dean ( Back from the Twilght Zone! ) Laffan
    Real World Productions   --------------224DB31845C064C87FB58A0E-- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 6-Jun-1998 17:15:09-GMT,2300;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15087 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:15:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19203; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:45:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:42:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19084; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:42:12 -0500 Message-ID: <357971D6.9D382ECC@empa.ch> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 18:44:15 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] word to pdf command line tool? References: <3576F6CF.787B@gsao.med.ge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greg, There is a software called "Multilinker" (http://www.multilinker.com) which could help you. Erwin Greg Derzay 4-6601 GSAO wrote: > Does anyone know if there exists a command line tool to generate > PDF documents from Microsoft Word documents? > > Reason: I need web access to master Word documents, but most browsers > are running on Solaris or SGI platform. I want to be able to > automatically generate a PDF document on the fly when clicking on > the Word link. > > I apologize if this is a newbie question...afterall, I'm a newbie! > > Thanks in advance, > Greg Derzay > Software Engineer, GE Medical Systems, GSO > derzayg@gsao.med.ge.com > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 7-Jun-1998 14:53:09-GMT,1551;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07420 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 08:53:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19934; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:30:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:24:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19672; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:24:00 -0500 Message-ID: <357A9455.52FD@btl.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 08:23:33 -0500 From: Paul Stevenson Organization: Special F-X X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF's with GYMNST21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone have experience with creating PDF's using a programme called GYMNST21? The programme was recommended to me by a friend. Apart from her tips , I would appreciate comments from my learned friends on this list. Thank you for your time and bye from sunny Belize, Paul Stevenson ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 7-Jun-1998 23:58:04-GMT,3020;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16538 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 17:58:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA01976; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 18:40:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 7 Jun 1998 18:36:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01759; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 18:36:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:35:33 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: [PDF] PDF, font embedding and TrueType... To: PDFlistserver Cc: Martha/callas Cuffy Message-ID: <199806071935_MC2-3F78-AFB6@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA01756 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 PDF, font embedding and TrueType... One thing came to my mind today regarding Acrobat/PDF, (not) embedding of standard 14 fonts, TrueType fonts: Printing to a PostScript file on a Macintosh (I am not sure at the moment if Windows behaves the same way...) where these standard 14 fonts are loaded as TrueType fonts, and asking fonts to be embedded when creating the PostScript file, will embed the TrueType font. Distiller - at least when asked to embed fonts - will embed these standard 14 TrueType fonts, and will name them something like 'Helvetica+1' (instead of 'Helvetica'). I am not 100% sure if this is good or bad. Anyway, it would mean you can have standard 14 fonts by Distiller ... (and in this case this means having the right font with the right font widths etc. - or am I missing something?) Just saw a display ad today that was absolutely ugly: all type Helvetica, but the horizontal character positions totally screwed up. Looked really weird. Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jun-1998 9:01:20-GMT,3570;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15397 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:01:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA16559; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:41:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:38:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA16458; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:38:38 -0500 Message-ID: <357BA378.DFB9820A@empa.ch> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 10:40:27 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF, font embedding and TrueType... References: <199806071935_MC2-3F78-AFB6@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'd like to emphasize on that. I once heared that the basic 14 (or I thought there are just 13) type fonts are never embedded, even on ask Distiller to embed all type fonts. After Olaf's message that is wrong. Are there other experiences? Erwin olaf druemmer wrote: > PDF, font embedding and TrueType... > > One thing came to my mind today regarding Acrobat/PDF, (not) embedding of > standard 14 fonts, TrueType fonts: > > Printing to a PostScript file on a Macintosh (I am not sure at the moment > if Windows behaves the same way...) where these standard 14 fonts are > loaded as TrueType fonts, and asking fonts to be embedded when creating > the PostScript file, will embed the TrueType font. > > Distiller - at least when asked to embed fonts - will embed these > standard 14 TrueType fonts, and will name them something like > 'Helvetica+1' (instead of 'Helvetica'). > > I am not 100% sure if this is good or bad. Anyway, it would mean you can > have standard 14 fonts by Distiller ... (and in this case this means > having the right font with the right font widths etc. - or am I missing > something?) > > Just saw a display ad today that was absolutely ugly: all type Helvetica, > but the horizontal character positions totally screwed up. Looked really > weird. > > Olaf Druemmer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Olaf Druemmer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 > Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 > D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jun-1998 11:55:55-GMT,2294;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19716 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 05:55:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA20651; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 06:20:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 06:18:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20588; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 06:18:42 -0500 Message-Id: <9806062302.AB13985@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF and fonts Date: Sat, 6 Jun 98 19:08:29 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Can someone tell me if there is an easy way to get a list of all fonts used >in a PDF file? What about in a PostScript file? In Exchange, under the File Menu, select Document Info, Fonts - be sure to then click over the "list all fonts" button in this dialoge (located in the lower left corner of the page. this will list all the fonts. One can get a report of all the fonts in a PDF file using EnFocus "Check-up" Acobat Exchange Plug-in, which generates a PDF with links back to the original that was "checked" - go to www.enfocus.be or www.enfocus.com - At Agfa, we generate "reports" of PDF files and PostScript files using a variety of tools (such as the Adobe Normalizer), which we use in conjuntion with PJTF creation and processing. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jun-1998 12:22:07-GMT,2193;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20413 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 06:22:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA22010; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 07:06:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 07:05:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21982; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 07:05:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199806081205.IAA04553@dax.cc.uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:03:36 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] ANNOC: Pdfmarks: Links and Forms Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Second Announcement ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I've written two internet articles on Pdfmarks covering links and forms. The URL: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/lnk_forms.html Written from the perspective of a TeX user, the articles are interactive and contain, I hope, a lot of valuable information. Postscript (and, of course, TeX) users can copy and paste code swatches into your own source document. Your comments would be appreciated. Regards, dps Dr. D. P. Story Department of Mathematical Sciences The University of Akron Akron, OH 44325 tele: (330) 972-7514 e-mail: dpstory@uakron.edu Home Page: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Home of ... e-Calculus: A Calculus I Tutorial on the WeB. Written in TeX and converted to the PDF format. See it at http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html and of ... An Algebra Review in 10 Lessons TeX to PDF http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jun-1998 12:31:11-GMT,2159;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20623 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 06:31:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA21952; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 07:05:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 07:04:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21899; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 07:04:12 -0500 Message-ID: <357BC5AE.8AC1CAF1@realworld.com.au> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 22:06:27 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Spoke too soon on Reader errors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Further to recent posts I now have my files presentng the way want them but am now getting both Reader and Exchange displaying the follwing Windows error and locking/crashing. ACROEX32 caused an invalid page fault in module ACROEX32.EXE at 0137:00436175. Registers: EAX=03160470 CS=0137 EIP=00436175 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=0158e158 SS=013f ESP=007df490 EBP=007d0001 ECX=000000ff DS=013f ESI=02e11394 FS=295f EDX=02ef01e8 ES=013f EDI=03160470 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 66 8b 80 88 00 00 00 c3 8b 44 24 04 83 b8 80 00 Stack dump: 01551cd2 03160470 03160470 02e11394 01555a8d 03160470 007df59c 00000001 00000070 01800013 004490c7 0158e018 0000001f 01800013 02e11394 c7360141 Can anyone decipher this error and provide suggestions. I have searched the Adobe DB with no luck Thanks Dean Laffan ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jun-1998 13:23:18-GMT,6453;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22121 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 07:23:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA24072; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 07:59:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 07:58:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23973; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 07:58:22 -0500 Message-ID: <357BD23E.53F7CE99@realworld.com.au> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 23:00:05 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat list post Subject: [PDF] Spoke to soon on Reader / Exchange - Solved! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------70CB58062554A9A6782FF6DD" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --------------70CB58062554A9A6782FF6DD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Finally found the answer on the Adobe tech support page. Problem was: error message: ACROEX32 caused an invalid page fault in module ACROEX32.EXE at 0137:00436175. Registers: EAX=03160470 CS=0137 EIP=00436175 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=0158e158 SS=013f ESP=007df490 EBP=007d0001 ECX=000000ff DS=013f ESI=02e11394 FS=295f EDX=02ef01e8 ES=013f EDI=03160470 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 66 8b 80 88 00 00 00 c3 8b 44 24 04 83 b8 80 00 Stack dump: 01551cd2 03160470 03160470 02e11394 01555a8d 03160470 007df59c 00000001 00000070 01800013 004490c7 0158e018 0000001f 01800013 02e11394 c7360141 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Answer is that Acrobat doesn't like being told to "Open File" from a Form button using the " On mouse down" command, but mouse DOWN only. As Adobe Tech Support say: Technical Solutions Database System Error When Clicking a Button in Acrobat Reader or Acrobat Exchange ISSUE When you click a form field button in Adobe Acrobat Reader 3.0x or Acrobat Exchange 3.0x, a system error occurs (e.g., Type 1, Type 2, Type 11 error, "Acroex32.exe caused an invalid page fault or illegal operation."). DETAIL The form field button should execute the command File > Close or File > Quit in response to a Mouse Down action (i.e., when you click the mouse button but before you release it). SOLUTION Edit the button's Field Properties so it responds to a different action: 1. Restart the computer. 2. Open the PDF file in Acrobat Exchange 3.0x. 3. Click the Form tool, then double-click the button. The Field Properties dialog box will appear. 4. Click the Actions tab. 5. Select Mouse Up, Mouse Enter, or Mouse Exit from the When This Happens scroll box. 6. Click OK and save the file. Additional Information Acrobat Reader and Acrobat Exchange cannot simultaneously respond to a Mouse Down action and either close a file or quit. If you configure a button to execute the "File > Close" or "File > Quit" command in response to a Mouse Down action, the system will return an error when you click the button. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This may explain some other posts commenting that the Form fields are not as reliable as the Link button and to use Links with buttons created in the source App. Dean Laffan Real World Productions --------------70CB58062554A9A6782FF6DD Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Finally found the answer on the Adobe tech support page.
     

    Problem was: error message:

    ACROEX32 caused an invalid page fault in
    module ACROEX32.EXE at 0137:00436175.
    Registers:
    EAX=03160470 CS=0137 EIP=00436175 EFLGS=00010202
    EBX=0158e158 SS=013f ESP=007df490 EBP=007d0001
    ECX=000000ff DS=013f ESI=02e11394 FS=295f
    EDX=02ef01e8 ES=013f EDI=03160470 GS=0000
    Bytes at CS:EIP:
    66 8b 80 88 00 00 00 c3 8b 44 24 04 83 b8 80 00
    Stack dump:
    01551cd2 03160470 03160470 02e11394 01555a8d 03160470 007df59c 00000001 00000070 01800013 004490c7 0158e018 0000001f 01800013 02e11394 c7360141


    Answer is that Acrobat doesn't like being told to "Open File" from a Form button using the " On mouse down" command, but mouse DOWN only. As Adobe Tech Support say:
     
     

    Technical Solutions Database

    System Error When Clicking a Button in Acrobat Reader or Acrobat Exchange

    ISSUE
    When you click a form field button in Adobe Acrobat Reader 3.0x or Acrobat Exchange 3.0x, a system error occurs (e.g.,
    Type 1, Type 2, Type 11 error, "Acroex32.exe caused an invalid page fault or illegal operation.").

    DETAIL
    The form field button should execute the command File > Close or File > Quit in response to a Mouse Down action (i.e., when
    you click the mouse button but before you release it).

    SOLUTION
    Edit the button's Field Properties so it responds to a different action:
    1. Restart the computer.
    2. Open the PDF file in Acrobat Exchange 3.0x.
    3. Click the Form tool, then double-click the button. The Field Properties dialog box will appear.
    4. Click the Actions tab.
    5. Select Mouse Up, Mouse Enter, or Mouse Exit from the When This Happens scroll box.
    6. Click OK and save the file.

    Additional Information
    Acrobat Reader and Acrobat Exchange cannot simultaneously respond to a Mouse Down action and either close a file or quit. If
    you configure a button to execute the "File > Close" or "File > Quit" command in response to a Mouse Down action, the
    system will return an error when you click the button.

    This may explain some other posts commenting that the Form fields are not as reliable as the Link button and to use Links with buttons created in the source App.
     

    Dean Laffan
    Real World Productions
     
     
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Lazzaro" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat or pdf classes X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------37AEF5D7420602150F369C28" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------37AEF5D7420602150F369C28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit adobe is putting on seminars all year on acrobat and pdf. the best thing is, there're free. check out the adobe web site for further details. Stephanie Lartius wrote: > Does anyone know of a good class/workshop/seminar on Acrobat and pdf? > We > need to start saving our whole newspaper to disk or send on a T-1 line > to > the printer. I've collected lots of information, but management wants > me to > go to a class. > > ________________________________ > Stephanie Lartius > Iowa State Daily > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- --------------37AEF5D7420602150F369C28 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen T. Lazzaro Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Stephen T. Lazzaro n: ;Stephen T. 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Peter Deutsch wrote: > If you ask for 24-bit RGB TIFF output, the TIFF file will be anti-aliased, > because no conversion will be done on the 24-bit data. Would that were the case; I had tried that earlier and no such luck. -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. 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Peter Deutsch" To: gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <357C0BB9.30EBFF3C@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> If you ask for 24-bit RGB TIFF output, the TIFF file will be anti-aliased, >> because no conversion will be done on the 24-bit data. > > Would that were the case; I had tried that earlier and no such luck. Sorry, I wasn't explicit enough here. 1) Use Ghostscript to produce anti-aliased 24-bit RGB ppmraw output, by including -sDEVICE=ppmraw -dTextAlphaBits=4 -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 on the command line. 2) Use pbmplus to convert the 24-bit PPM output to 24-bit RGB TIFF. Ghostscript's own 24-bit RGB TIFF driver does not currently support anti-aliasing. If you would like Aladdin to add anti-aliasing capability to this driver on an expedited basis, please let us know in private e-mail. I think this thread is of not of much interest to this discussion list, so I'd like to take it off-list -- please reply to me individually. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jun-1998 18:10:29-GMT,2730;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02320 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:10:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA03943; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:55:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:54:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03878; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:54:17 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Jun 98 10:45 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" Old-To: gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <357C0BB9.30EBFF3C@pre-print.com> (gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting "Image" PDF Files back to BMP or tiff files X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> If you ask for 24-bit RGB TIFF output, the TIFF file will be anti-aliased, >> because no conversion will be done on the 24-bit data. > > Would that were the case; I had tried that earlier and no such luck. Sorry, I wasn't explicit enough here. 1) Use Ghostscript to produce anti-aliased 24-bit RGB ppmraw output, by including -sDEVICE=ppmraw -dTextAlphaBits=4 -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 on the command line. 2) Use pbmplus to convert the 24-bit PPM output to 24-bit RGB TIFF. Ghostscript's own 24-bit RGB TIFF driver does not currently support anti-aliasing. If you would like Aladdin to add anti-aliasing capability to this driver on an expedited basis, please let us know in private e-mail. I think this thread is of not of much interest to this discussion list, so I'd like to take it off-list -- please reply to me individually. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jun-1998 21:19:13-GMT,2120;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08949 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:19:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA11116; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:46:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:44:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10983; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:44:23 -0500 Message-ID: <357C4D11.A00B2819@moen.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 16:44:01 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Exchange as a service? References: <840631BE4045D11186BB00400536BFB02412C3@zeus.snapweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Has anyone succeeded in getting Exchange to run as a service? We have a custom plug-in which watches a directory and puts overlays onto pdf files, and we'd like to run it as a service. Currently, it requires that Exchange be up and running, with a user logged in. If anyone has gotten Exchange to run as a service on an NT4 machine, please let me know. Thanks, Jennifer -- _______________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _______________________________________________________________ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jun-1998 22:43:09-GMT,3462;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12188 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:43:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA14890; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:24:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:22:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14790; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:22:35 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825661D.006C4D77.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:31:54 -0700 Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.0 and suggestions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi: The reviewers of our documents want to be able to copy text and tables from our documents that they will then include in their written review of our material. It's been a real stumbling block for them when they select a table in a PDF and paste it into a Word Processing program only to find that the formatting hasn't held. ForTE and Right Wing have solved that problem, to some extent. SueG "Aandi Inston" on 06/05/98 01:12:48 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.0 and suggestions > I need this info FAST, so please help. > > I currently have Acrobat 3.0. Do I have Acrobat Catalog > with it or is it some plug in? Also, what is it and how > do I obtain it if I dont have it. Acrobat Catalog is included with Acrobat 3.0. So long as you understand that Acrobat 3.0 is not the same as the free Acrobat Reader 3.0. Catalog is a separate program, not a plug-in - look for it in your menus. > > Also, we are about to submit a purchase order for new > stuff. What plug-ins do you suggest I get with it? > > I am interested in "Redwing" which allows you to extract > text and tables from PDF files. > > Does anyone know if you can re-insert this data in PDF's. By remaking a page and redistilling. Is there much call for programs to cut and paste text and tables between PDF files? I can't see much need for it where I'm sitting, but perhaps I'm missing something... > > We do 2000+ page catalogs and Distill to PDF. Any other > plug-ins or add on suggestions? > > Please let me know so I can order something while I have > the money available. Well, I think you should look at our plug-ins (www.quite.com), but then I would. Take a walk through www.pdfzone.com. Many of the plug-ins have demos available. You might be particularly interested in PitStop if you are messing with PDF files that already exist. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jun-1998 23:13:58-GMT,2652;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13198 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA16143; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:00:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:59:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16063; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:59:36 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.0 and suggestions Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 23:58:38 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd9331$01727200$f05795c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <8825661D.006C4D77.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Aandi: The reviewers of our documents want to be able to > copy text and > tables from our documents that they will then include in their written > review of our material. It's been a real stumbling block for > them when > they select a table in a PDF and paste it into a Word > Processing program > only to find that the formatting hasn't held. ForTE and > Right Wing have > solved that problem, to some extent. I always have a problem with this. I know what PDF was designed for, and this isn't it; if someone wants to copy tables out of a PDF file, some incorrect assumptions are being made somewhere. However, it seems I can't fight the mass of opinion which wants it to work, rather than being told it shouldn't. So tools like the ones you describe are doing a good job, and I'm impressed by how good they are at extracting content and context from PDF files which don't contain any context information. I do worry that they encourage bad decisions to be made, though. Still, I fear I am fighting a losing battle and it is only a matter of time until the first PDF word processor, heaven help us, appears. In fact, if this keeps up, I might have to write it myself. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jun-1998 23:59:00-GMT,3055;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15014 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:58:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA17466; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:40:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:36:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17339; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:36:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199806082336.JAA21765@magna.com.au> X-Sender: larke@magna.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 09:27:15 +1000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Annette Larke Subject: RE: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... In-Reply-To: <000801bd8e66$9e4b8640$2a6645c2@gateway> References: <2.2.32.19980602174139.00d78880@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Having followed this thread from a while back has convinced me of using the 'go to view' option rather than the 'open file' option to link between PDF files. My question regards buttons: Is there a way of using a button to open a new PDF file with the 'go to view' mode. So far, I have only been able to use the 'open file' option to move between PDF files when using buttons. - is it unadvisable to use buttons with the 'open file' option if the file to be opened is a PDF file? I find buttons very convenient for standard navigation links. Regards, Annette At 08:00 PM 06/02/98 +0100, you wrote: > >> Aandi - why, specifically, is Go To View "better"? In what >> ways? Why do >> you think that Open File is "wrong"? > >It's clearly better in that it lets you link to other than the >first page of a document, and select a view. But more than that, >it is the method designed for linking between PDF files. Open >file is designed for linking to non-PDF documents/applications, >and is done by asking the operating system to follow the link. > >It seems Acrobat recovers well from using an Open File link to >a PDF file, perhaps by analysing the file before asking Windows >to open it. I can't give any first evidence where one form >actually fails, but it's what I've always taught. > >Aandi >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > Larke Services Pty LTd Sydney, Australia URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 5:24:48-GMT,2770;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24264 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 23:24:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27179; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 23:58:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 23:56:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27105; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 23:56:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199806090456.AAA13882@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "J. David Bryan" Organization: Palomar Corporation To: PDF List Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 00:56:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear ListFolks, I have been asked to work (long distance) with the layout artist for a small magazine. The organization wishes to post PDF versions of its 30-page periodical for viewing over the Web. The generator is QuarkXPress 3.31 for the Mac. The simplest way to produce the PDF version appears to be to have a Postscript version of the document e-mailed to me, which I would then distill (Distiller 3.02) into PDF. The only hitch is the large number of 270-dpi black-and-white photos in the document, rendering a PS file of some 50-70 MB in our tests. Over slow modem lines, that's going to take a long time to transmit and seems especially wasteful, as I'm planning to downsample the photos to 72 dpi during distilling. Is there some way in QuarkXPress to downsample the photos before (or as part of the process of) generating the Postscript output? That would provide a far smaller PS file for transmission. The layout artist states that downsampling the photos one-at-a-time in Photoshop is not an option (too much of his time). I know nothing about QuarkXPress or the Mac, and the artist knows nothing about Acrobat or the PC, so our exchanges on this topic have not been particularly enlightening. :-) Thanks for any help! -- Dave Bryan dbryan@bcpl.net ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 8:41:20-GMT,3997;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16776 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 02:41:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA32523; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 03:25:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 03:24:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA32461; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 03:24:30 -0500 Message-ID: <357CE391.F37A3417@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 18:26:11 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Wierdness in Reader - Solved Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The following text is from a message and thread about a week old, for which I only just received a bounced mail message, go figure. The thread concerned problems with Links, Forms and opening characteristics of documents Firstly A big thank you to everyone who has responded to me on this thread. All of your comments have been helpful and to the point. Love this list! FWIW I arrived with some bottom line info: 1: "Bad Parameters" error between PDF's There is a documented bug in Exchange and Reader which was causing my problems of "Bad Parameters" Essentially you cannot ask Exchange / Reader to open a single page pdf (menu screen) in Continuous Page view by a Form tool, IF the file you are creating the Form button in is a multi page pdf. (authored paper) i.e.. Exchange / Reader spits the dummy on the logic when asked to open the other single page file in Continuous Page View. Interestingly the Form link does initially work from the 1st or 2nd page of the pdf, but after then the error "Bad Parameter" kicks in on subsequent duplicated form buttons. The answer is to NEVER use Continuous Page view in the target pdf view. Adobe tech support say it has been noted and will be dealt with. 2: Rdr/ Ex refuses to let go of Full screen mode Adobe say no one has ever previously noted the reluctance of Exch /Rdr to "let go" of Full Screen mode when linking between PDF's, ( I thought this would be a fairly common problem) They say they have no reason why it shouldn't ... but it doesnt and they will add it to the list BUT THEN ... Tracie DeVoe provided a sensational work around. If the previous document is in full screen mode Rdr/Exch stays that way until taken out, so leave the 1st pdf set to open in full screen mode, then use the Form tool to add TWO actions. Firstly, add Menu Item>View Full Screen which actually TOGGLES between views, which reverses the current view. So Acrobat releases Full screen view just before the second action which is File Open>... set the second document to open however you want. Thanks Tracie, You get my Edward De Bono Award for lateral thinking for the month! I have tested the procedure as Tracie suggested and it works fine on the PC in Exch/Rdr. On the Mac I get an ugly "flashing as it changes views, but damm it works! Also Tracie you are correct, Exchange doesn't let you change pages in the Form tool when using Go To View, you need to use the File Open.. Don't know why...? Thanks a million once again to all other listoids who have helped me on this thread. Dean ( Back from the Twilght Zone! ) Laffan Real World Productions ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 8:41:20-GMT,3584;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16777 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 02:41:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA32666; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 03:29:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 03:28:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA32613; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 03:28:30 -0500 Message-ID: <357CE4A2.B5F0C02D@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 18:30:44 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Spoke to soon on Reader / Exchange - Solved! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Finally found the answer on the Adobe tech support page. Problem was: error message: ACROEX32 caused an invalid page fault in module ACROEX32.EXE at 0137:00436175. Registers: EAX=03160470 CS=0137 EIP=00436175 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=0158e158 SS=013f ESP=007df490 EBP=007d0001 ECX=000000ff DS=013f ESI=02e11394 FS=295f EDX=02ef01e8 ES=013f EDI=03160470 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 66 8b 80 88 00 00 00 c3 8b 44 24 04 83 b8 80 00 Stack dump: 01551cd2 03160470 03160470 02e11394 01555a8d 03160470 007df59c 00000001 00000070 01800013 004490c7 0158e018 0000001f 01800013 02e11394 c7360141 Answer is that Acrobat doesn't like being told to "Open File" from a Form button using the " On mouse down" command, but mouse DOWN only. As Adobe Tech Support say: Technical Solutions Database System Error When Clicking a Button in Acrobat Reader or Acrobat Exchange ISSUE When you click a form field button in Adobe Acrobat Reader 3.0x or Acrobat Exchange 3.0x, a system error occurs (e.g., Type 1, Type 2, Type 11 error, "Acroex32.exe caused an invalid page fault or illegal operation."). DETAIL The form field button should execute the command File > Close or File > Quit in response to a Mouse Down action (i.e., when you click the mouse button but before you release it). SOLUTION Edit the button's Field Properties so it responds to a different action: 1. Restart the computer. 2. Open the PDF file in Acrobat Exchange 3.0x. 3. Click the Form tool, then double-click the button. The Field Properties dialog box will appear. 4. Click the Actions tab. 5. Select Mouse Up, Mouse Enter, or Mouse Exit from the When This Happens scroll box. 6. Click OK and save the file. Additional Information Acrobat Reader and Acrobat Exchange cannot simultaneously respond to a Mouse Down action and either close a file or quit. If you configure a button to execute the "File > Close" or "File > Quit" command in response to a Mouse Down action, the system will return an error when you click the button. This may explain some other posts commenting that the Form fields are not as reliable as the Link button and to use Links with buttons created in the source App. Dean Laffan Real World Productions ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 8:41:20-GMT,2218;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16778 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 02:41:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA32580; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 03:27:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 03:26:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA32532; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 03:26:33 -0500 Message-ID: <357CE42E.97393C52@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 18:28:47 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Spoke too soon on Reader errors [PDF] Spoke too soon on Reader errors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Further to recent posts I now have my files presentng the way I want them but am now getting both Reader and Exchange displaying the follwing Windows error and locking/crashing. ACROEX32 caused an invalid page fault in module ACROEX32.EXE at 0137:00436175. Registers: EAX=03160470 CS=0137 EIP=00436175 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=0158e158 SS=013f ESP=007df490 EBP=007d0001 ECX=000000ff DS=013f ESI=02e11394 FS=295f EDX=02ef01e8 ES=013f EDI=03160470 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 66 8b 80 88 00 00 00 c3 8b 44 24 04 83 b8 80 00 Stack dump: 01551cd2 03160470 03160470 02e11394 01555a8d 03160470 007df59c 00000001 00000070 01800013 004490c7 0158e018 0000001f 01800013 02e11394 c7360141 Can anyone decipher this error and provide suggestions. I have searched the Adobe DB with no luck Thanks Dean Laffan ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 13:17:43-GMT,3688;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23675 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07973; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:01:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:00:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07901; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:00:11 -0500 From: royaustin@juno.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:32:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? Message-ID: <19980609.085843.22574.0.RoyAustin@juno.com> References: <199806090456.AAA13882@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,5-11,13-59 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David, Here's a trick that may work. If you have them move all of their high-res pictures to a directory where Quark can't find them and then have them print the file to postscript (ignoring the warning that Quark can't find it's pictures), you should end up with a postscript file with 72 dpi picture headers in place of the high-res pictures. It's worth a try, Roy Faircloth Wingers Publishing On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 00:56:04 -0400 "J. David Bryan" writes: > >Dear ListFolks, > > I have been asked to work (long distance) with the layout artist >for a >small magazine. The organization wishes to post PDF versions of its >30-page periodical for viewing over the Web. The generator is >QuarkXPress >3.31 for the Mac. > > The simplest way to produce the PDF version appears to be to have >a >Postscript version of the document e-mailed to me, which I would then >distill (Distiller 3.02) into PDF. The only hitch is the large number >of >270-dpi black-and-white photos in the document, rendering a PS file of >some >50-70 MB in our tests. Over slow modem lines, that's going to take a >long >time to transmit and seems especially wasteful, as I'm planning to >downsample the photos to 72 dpi during distilling. > > Is there some way in QuarkXPress to downsample the photos before >(or as >part of the process of) generating the Postscript output? That would >provide a far smaller PS file for transmission. The layout artist >states >that downsampling the photos one-at-a-time in Photoshop is not an >option >(too much of his time). I know nothing about QuarkXPress or the Mac, >and >the artist knows nothing about Acrobat or the PC, so our exchanges on >this >topic have not been particularly enlightening. :-) > > Thanks for any help! > >-- > Dave Bryan > dbryan@bcpl.net >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 13:17:51-GMT,5528;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23679 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:17:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07851; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:59:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:57:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07748; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:57:43 -0500 Message-ID: <357D3217.85EDF741@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 06:01:11 -0700 From: William Belk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Posting Comments to Web-based PDFs References: <3576D8C9.85686FA1@aegisgroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dan, Thanks for the response. I don't know enough yet about the forms feature to know if that's the best solution. I think you're correct that a bbs is the real answer. My client doesn't have any problem purchasing Exchange in order to make this happen. However, when Exchange is launched as a Web browser plugin, it only includes the navigation functions as being active. I don't know what happens when the site visitor has "write" rights to the Web server, but I suspect this still would't allow the Notes function to be active. Thanks again, Bill Dan Dilamarter wrote: > Hey, Bill. > The forms feature is certainly one way to skin this cat. You can, when > creating the form, put in a field that is visible on screen, but does not > print out. The field could be a scrollable text box, with no limits on > number of characters entered, with a submit button under it. You could then > (I'm just brainstorming here, I have no idea if this where you need to go) > have the comments, upon submission, be permanently attached to that > document, or perhaps the contents of that comment could be dumped into your > server's database for later retrieval by an editor, maybe from a web page > with a search capability. Maybe the client could just e-mail the editor, if > you want to keep it really simple. As I read your question again, it seems > to me that you might be wanting a bbs or forum-like web page that contains a > frame with the pdf in question plainly in view. The frame containing the pdf > will have the reader tool bar, but the rest of the web page would be > straight html. In which case you are looking at a basic web page design and > implementation thing. If you DO have the need to include the comments > directly into the pdf document, I don't think you can use the Notes feature, > as Notes need to be created in Exchange--Exchange is not a plug-in, Reader > is. The end users could have a copy of Exchange on their computer, download > the pdf, mark it up with Notes, and upload it to the web server, but wow, > too much. Each user would have to have a license for exchange (200-300 $$), > as well as be savvy enough to do the rest. > Dan Dilamarter > ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com > > Max Wyss wrote: > > > Bill, > > > > I am not sure about the editing functions, over a net, but with Forms, it > > should work. > > > > The implementation depends on how deep the comments should be anchored in > > the document (on document level, page level, paragraph level). > > > > It also depends on the tools you are using to create the documents, how > > easy it would be to implement a forms based solution. > > > > Hope, this can help. > > > > Max Wyss > > PRODOK Engineering AG > > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com > > > > Bridging the Knowledge Gap > > > > _____________ > > > > >We have a client who wants a flexible way to submit comments to > > >technical documents via a wide-area intranet. Is there a way to build > > >this capability around a PDF version of a document served up from a Web > > >server? Can a remote reviewer post Notes to a Web-based PDF using > > >Exchange as a browser plug-in? What, if any, complications might arise? > > >Can the new forms feature provide this capability? If so, can anyone > > >point me to a Web site that is using this feature to collect > > >information? > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Bill Belk > > >Document Production Manager > > >IT Corporation > > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > > For more info: John Cook > > List-related questions: > > Sub/Unsub: > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 13:23:34-GMT,1724;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23835 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:23:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA08265; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:05:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:05:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08183; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:05:04 -0500 Message-ID: <357D2575.C869A685@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 23:07:19 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is it just me or is there some reason why you can't set up a copy of exchange/distiller on your clients computer with a watched folder to auto distill whatever files they print into it from Quark. Then all he needs to email you is the actual PDF's (which will be quite small in comparison) ready for you to value-add, link etc.? Dean ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 13:31:17-GMT,1608;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24064 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:31:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA08967; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:16:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:15:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08893; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:15:18 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: PENTON CLEVELAND From: "John Hricko" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525661E.004873A5.00@mail.penton.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:18:28 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Reader installed on CD-ROM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a way to install the Acrobat Reader on a CD-ROM so that the application runs from the CD without installing it on the users machine? I have been told this is possible, but I thought the presence of Adobe Type Manager was necessary for Reader to run. I understand the full Reader installer is required for distribution. John Hricko Penton New Media ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 13:32:18-GMT,1789;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24090 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:32:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09151; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:18:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:17:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09073; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:17:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:17:27 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199806091317.OAA25252@lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk> From: Sebastian Rahtz To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? In-Reply-To: <19980609.085843.22574.0.RoyAustin@juno.com> References: <199806090456.AAA13882@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> <19980609.085843.22574.0.RoyAustin@juno.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 royaustin@juno.com writes: > >small magazine. The organization wishes to post PDF versions of its > >30-page periodical for viewing over the Web. The generator is > >QuarkXPress ... > >time to transmit and seems especially wasteful, as I'm planning to > >downsample the photos to 72 dpi during distilling. surely it would be far easier if *they* ran Distiller before sending you the PDF file, with the appropriate settings for downsampling.... Sebastian ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 13:32:24-GMT,2707;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24101 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09287; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:20:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:19:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09214; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:19:14 -0500 Message-ID: <357D28A3.4629955D@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 23:20:54 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Annete Wrote: My question regards buttons: Is there a way of using a button to open a new PDF file with the 'go to view' mode. So far, I have only been able to use the 'open file' option to move between PDF files when using buttons. - is it unadvisable to use buttons with the 'open file' option if the file to be opened is a PDF file? I find buttons very convenient for standard navigation links. To my knowledge Annete you can't use a form/button and Go To View to open another PDF. As the message button says, you can only change the views within a document. The answer as discussed about two weeks ago in another thread is: 1: Create your buttons in the source app and then use the Link tool instead 2: Overlay a link field over a button field (If your desperate!) Methinks this a is a creative workaround suggested to me by a fellow lister, but it seems to be asking to find an undocumented bug! 3: Use the Open File as long as you're happy with the File>Document Info>Open... settings MOST IMPORTANTLY please read the three notices I posted last night detailing 3 bugs in Exhange Reader regarding buttons and fields. We have just completed a project that caused us major headaches with wierd behaviour moving between documents using fields and buttons and uncovered some watchouts. Dean Laffan Real World Productions ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 13:33:10-GMT,3270;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24119 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:33:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09525; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:23:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:22:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09469; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:22:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:24:22 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Annette, When creating a button and using the "go to view" action, Acrobat will not allow you to move off the page. In my experience, I have found that using buttons as navigational aids greatly increased the sizes of my pdf files and I tended to get a lot of GPF's, I'm on Win 95, although I've read on this forum that 3.01 corrected that problem. I have to admit that I used the buttons for page to page navigation so I would invariably have a lot of buttons in my files. The next step for me was to insert my navigation icons in my source document and then use the Copy Link feature of Compose for adding the links. Now I created a navigation template and after distilling my source documents, I add my navigation icons using the Overlay feature in Compose. This works great because I can modify my pdf files in a batch and it really saves me a lot of time. If I need to link to another pdf file, I still use a link action with "go to view", But when I open up a new pdf, it is usually to a page other then page one and I believe "open file" only opens to page one. I hope this helps. Randy Johnston State of the Art (Sage) -----Original Message----- From: Annette Larke [mailto:larke@magna.com.au] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 4:27 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf file..... Having followed this thread from a while back has convinced me of using the 'go to view' option rather than the 'open file' option to link between PDF files. My question regards buttons: Is there a way of using a button to open a new PDF file with the 'go to view' mode. So far, I have only been able to use the 'open file' option to move between PDF files when using buttons. - is it unadvisable to use buttons with the 'open file' option if the file to be opened is a PDF file? I find buttons very convenient for standard navigation links. Regards, Annette ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 13:55:21-GMT,2066;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24841 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:55:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10342; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:39:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:38:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10283; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:38:07 -0500 Message-ID: <31721FDF99E8D011A92E0080C8588A1F41F03A@POST> From: Andriollo Mario To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Global change of hyperlinks in PDF files Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:37:39 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA10280 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all list members! We have put a large number of PDF files in our INTRANET. Some of these PDFs have numerous WWW links pointing to other PDFs on our company´s web site. Unfortunately, our Web server is reorganized and its name changed. As a consequence, we will have to change all the hyperlinks. Is it possible to change a part of the URL, for example, to replace "post/eed" by "pub/eed" without having to change each hyperlink manually in each PDF. Using a base URL is not a good solution because it only works with a single PDF. What we need is a tool or technique for changing PDF hyperlinks globally (across many PDF documents). ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 13:56:59-GMT,2118;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24911 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:56:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10581; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:42:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:42:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10508; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:42:05 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader installed on CD-ROM Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:39:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd93ac$47498360$d56545c2@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <8525661E.004873A5.00@mail.penton.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Is there a way to install the Acrobat Reader on a CD-ROM so that the > application runs from the CD without installing it on the > users machine? I > have been told this is possible, but I thought the presence > of Adobe Type > Manager was necessary for Reader to run. I understand the full Reader > installer is required for distribution. > Reader no longer requires Adobe Type Manager (since version 2.1). But you are correct to state that the full Reader installer must be distributed; the redistribution license would forbid distributing a runnable version on a CDROM. This rather overrides any technical discussion of whether it is possible. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 14:07:35-GMT,2730;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25297 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:07:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA11101; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:54:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:53:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11046; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:53:29 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:58:53 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: [PDF] QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dave, >Is there some way in QuarkXPress to downsample the photos before (or as > part of the process of) generating the Postscript output? That would > provide a far smaller PS file for transmission. The layout artist states > that downsampling the photos one-at-a-time in Photoshop is not an option > (too much of his time). Great, I know this one. A fellow Grqaphic designer and myself had to "tag-team" a Quarkxpress file, due to a tight-deadline, and we were approx 15 miles apart. I did the photo work/text and he did the layout. After he layed out the first four pages, he'd stuff/zip (compress) the quark file, (on it's own - not collect for output, so no photoshop images etc). The Quarkxpress layout is already downsampled to 72 dpi images, if not tagged to the large Photoshop images, and is very small in file size. I'd drop in the placed Photo image and raw text, restuffit, and retransmit back to him. It was very slick, and worked as well as any ethernet interconnections at work. YOUR problem is going to be distilling the PS (postscript file) from QuarkXpress because you won't be able to embedd all fonts on your PC (Mac and PC fonts are different). I think the artist will need to buy Acrobat Distiller, then you should have no problems. We used a modem for transfer, because we wanted to exchange notes as we were transmitting, but this would work as an email attachment, as long as you do not hit a file size limitation with your ISP. Good Luck Murray ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 14:25:34-GMT,3284;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25893 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:25:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA11230; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:56:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:55:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11173; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:55:27 -0500 From: jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENSORIUM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8625661E.004B919C.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:53:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF in PowerPoint Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I played around with these options a couple of months ago: PowerPoint - good for things like animated text, last second modifications. Acrobat - better than PPT for videos, stability / security, complex layouts on a variety of displays. Inserting a PDF into a PPT is not very slick. You insert a link to the file (looks like a PDF type icon), and this launches Acrobat Reader when clicked. Switching back to PPT does not make for the smoothest transition. You can work in PPT than save it to PDF via Distiller ot PDF Writer. If you have video (MOV or AVI) add it to the PDF file. Video in PPT does not work very well. Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software Brad Davis on 06/05/98 11:44:18 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Jeremy Treister/Sensorium) Subject: [PDF] PDF in PowerPoint Does anyone know if it is possible to place a PDF file in a PowerPoint presentation or must you save the PowerPoint out as a PDF and then insert the other PDF within the PDF file output from the PDF Writer in PowerPoint? Thanks for any suggestions. Brad Davis bdavis@recordscenter.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 14:26:55-GMT,2549;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25915 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:26:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12050; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:09:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:08:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11992; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:08:29 -0500 Message-ID: <357BF169.8E3F2148@glyphica.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 07:12:57 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf References: <357D28A3.4629955D@realworld.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You actually can use the Go to View action to open another PDF file. To create such an action, draw the link, set the property to 'go to view', then open the destination file and page ... you'll notice that the link dialogue box overlays the second file you opened, allowing you to complete the link. HTH, Deidre ......................................... Glyphica Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com ......................................... Dean Laffan wrote: > Annete Wrote: > > My question regards buttons: Is there a way of using a button to open a > new > PDF file with the 'go to view' mode. So far, I have only been able to > use > the 'open file' option to move between PDF files when using buttons. > > - is it unadvisable to use buttons with the 'open file' option if the > file > to be opened is a PDF file? I find buttons very convenient for standard > > navigation links. > > To my knowledge Annete you can't use a form/button and Go To View to > open another PDF. As the message button says, you can only change the > views within a document. The answer as discussed about two weeks ago in > another thread is: > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 14:30:34-GMT,2973;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26104 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:30:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11684; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:03:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:02:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11607; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:02:37 -0500 Message-ID: <357BEFFF.62150F73@glyphica.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 07:06:55 -0700 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? References: <199806090456.AAA13882@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Why not distill the files at their source?? The artist won't need much to distill the files ... you specify the settings for Distiller after some test pages, and they run the process from there. Compressing PostScript and making files more portable is one of the fundamental benefits of Acrobat ... so it struck me that it might not make sense to impose compression on PS just so you can make a PDF file that is compressed. Just a thought, Deidre ........................................ Glyphica http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com ........................................ J. David Bryan wrote: > Dear ListFolks, > > I have been asked to work (long distance) with the layout artist for a > small magazine. The organization wishes to post PDF versions of its > 30-page periodical for viewing over the Web. The generator is QuarkXPress > 3.31 for the Mac. > > The simplest way to produce the PDF version appears to be to have a > Postscript version of the document e-mailed to me, which I would then > distill (Distiller 3.02) into PDF. The only hitch is the large number of > 270-dpi black-and-white photos in the document, rendering a PS file of some > 50-70 MB in our tests. Over slow modem lines, that's going to take a long > time to transmit and seems especially wasteful, as I'm planning to > downsample the photos to 72 dpi during distilling. > > Is there some way in QuarkXPress to downsample the photos before (or as > part of the process of) generating the Postscript output? That would > provide a far smaller PS file for transmission. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 15:02:34-GMT,1822;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27259 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:02:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13889; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:43:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:39:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13639; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:39:02 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271C72CC@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF Maker and Word 97 Bookmarking... any changes? Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:30:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm wondering whether anyone has heard anything regarding pending changes to Adobes PDFMaker for Word 97. Automated bookmarking simply is unreliable in long docs... Bookmarks by Example (and the other 3rd party solutions) are a crude replacement for the functionality of Adobe's offering, but unfortunately it doesn't always work.I haven't researched this in a while, I'm wondering whether any of you have heard anything? Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 15:55:26-GMT,3234;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29005 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:55:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA16383; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:34:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:32:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16249; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:32:54 -0500 Message-ID: <357D5612.AA93A19B@empa.ch> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 17:35:14 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? References: <199806090456.AAA13882@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sending the QuarkXPress dokument by mail to you would technicaly be a perfect solution!! Erwin J. David Bryan wrote: > Dear ListFolks, > > I have been asked to work (long distance) with the layout artist for a > small magazine. The organization wishes to post PDF versions of its > 30-page periodical for viewing over the Web. The generator is QuarkXPress > 3.31 for the Mac. > > The simplest way to produce the PDF version appears to be to have a > Postscript version of the document e-mailed to me, which I would then > distill (Distiller 3.02) into PDF. The only hitch is the large number of > 270-dpi black-and-white photos in the document, rendering a PS file of some > 50-70 MB in our tests. Over slow modem lines, that's going to take a long > time to transmit and seems especially wasteful, as I'm planning to > downsample the photos to 72 dpi during distilling. > > Is there some way in QuarkXPress to downsample the photos before (or as > part of the process of) generating the Postscript output? That would > provide a far smaller PS file for transmission. The layout artist states > that downsampling the photos one-at-a-time in Photoshop is not an option > (too much of his time). I know nothing about QuarkXPress or the Mac, and > the artist knows nothing about Acrobat or the PC, so our exchanges on this > topic have not been particularly enlightening. :-) > > Thanks for any help! > > -- > Dave Bryan > dbryan@bcpl.net > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 16:07:20-GMT,1723;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29318 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:07:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA17409; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:55:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:54:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17326; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:54:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199806091553.IAA25221@fujitsuI.fujitsu.com> From: "Federman,Brad (Anaheim)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Screen Captures Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:51:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We currently use Hijaak to capture screens, save as GIF, TIFF, or WMF, import into FrameMaker (5.5.2), print to PS (Adobe's default printer driver from Frame CD), then distill (3.02). We then use the PDF file to print and post. The screen caps are usually very poor when distilled and therefore both versions of the document show the bad graphic. I appreciate your suggestions for a "resolution." Brad Federman Fujitsu Business Communication Systems ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 16:10:17-GMT,4215;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29366 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:10:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA17428; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:56:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:55:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17387; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:55:17 -0500 Message-ID: <357D5AF0.2F1E0BE4@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 11:55:28 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? References: <199806090456.AAA13882@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA17384 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yes, there is an elegant way for the designer to do this. All she or he has to do is use the screen reprsentations of the high res images as the image source prior to generating the files. To do this, the artist should save the file under another name and in another directory and then use the Adobe Distiller driver to generate the ps. After that, have the artist compress the ps down to managaeable size using a compression utility that is common to both of you and send the file. The only question I have is why not have the artist rip the files and convert them to PDF and send you those. PS is very touchy and if the designer is using a Mac and you an IBM, the conversion & compression part of the equation can be a real hassle. HTH Bob Moran J. David Bryan wrote: > Dear ListFolks, > > I have been asked to work (long distance) with the layout artist for a > small magazine. The organization wishes to post PDF versions of its > 30-page periodical for viewing over the Web. The generator is QuarkXPress > 3.31 for the Mac. > > The simplest way to produce the PDF version appears to be to have a > Postscript version of the document e-mailed to me, which I would then > distill (Distiller 3.02) into PDF. The only hitch is the large number of > 270-dpi black-and-white photos in the document, rendering a PS file of some > 50-70 MB in our tests. Over slow modem lines, that's going to take a long > time to transmit and seems especially wasteful, as I'm planning to > downsample the photos to 72 dpi during distilling. > > Is there some way in QuarkXPress to downsample the photos before (or as > part of the process of) generating the Postscript output? That would > provide a far smaller PS file for transmission. The layout artist states > that downsampling the photos one-at-a-time in Photoshop is not an option > (too much of his time). I know nothing about QuarkXPress or the Mac, and > the artist knows nothing about Acrobat or the PC, so our exchanges on this > topic have not been particularly enlightening. :-) > > Thanks for any help! > > -- > Dave Bryan > dbryan@bcpl.net > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 16:15:36-GMT,1802;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29481 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:15:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA17625; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:59:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:58:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17554; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:58:31 -0500 From: Sergio_Guevara@Mitel.COM X-Lotus-FromDomain: MITEL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525661E.0056C244.00@kanmta01.software.mitel.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:58:06 -0400 Subject: [PDF] DISTILLER DEFAULT PAGE SIZE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Sergio Guevara@MITEL on 06/09/98 11:58 AM Hi All! Does the Default Page Size in Distiller (3.01) have limitations? I have changed the default height to 12 inches, to accommodate a custom page size I created in FrameMaker 5.5.2. When I open the file after it is distilled from FrameMaker, the headers and the footers are cut from the .PDF file I created. The page size indication on the display bar shows that the height is 11 inches. I really want 12 inches. I am using Windows NT 4 (sp3) with a beefy system. Any clues? Sergio : ( sergio_guevara@mitel.com Mitel Enterprises ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 16:20:39-GMT,1880;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29682 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:20:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18020; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:05:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:04:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17933; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:04:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199806091604.JAA29462@vectorfx.metacreations.com> Subject: [PDF] compiling form data Date: Tue, 9 Jun 98 09:04:35 -0000 x-sender: tbeidler@vectorfx.metacreations.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Tom Beidler To: "Emerge PDFzone" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would like to post a request form in pdf on our corporate intranet. After completing the form the FDF info would be forwarded to myself. I'm anticipating a couple of requests a day and I would like to compile them into one pdf as apposed to individual ones. Browsing and updating one pdf that consists of several requests would be faster and easier then treating each request as a seperate pdf. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Beidler MetaCreations direct: 805.566.6323 fax: 805.566.6350 e-mail: tbeidler@metacreations.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 16:40:28-GMT,4670;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00167 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:40:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18290; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:10:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:08:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18184; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:08:51 -0500 Message-ID: <357D5EB9.582BAE87@aegisgroup.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 11:12:22 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? References: <199806090456.AAA13882@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> <357D5612.AA93A19B@empa.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I think I disagree with Erwin, in that J. David Bryan is using a PC, not a Mac, and knows nothing about Quark. Also, the down sampling is handled automatically by Distiller-why go in and do it manually in photoshop (either J. David or his client), then update all the images in Quark? I think a much more efficient method is to let the mac user client send the postscript on a Zip or CD or pick-your-medium by FedEx Overnight. Open it up, set your downsampling to 72 (or 90, a common setting for web viewing, as it allows one level of zoom in the browser and doesn't add much to the file size) and your all set. An associate of mine regularly handles exactly such a job for a major magazine, and has to deal with many of the same issues as J. David. By the way, maybe have them mail you hard copies of each issue for comparison. There may be discrepancies in what they send you as postscript and what actually got published (that you might get blamed for). Dan Dilamarter ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com Erwin Widmer wrote: > Sending the QuarkXPress dokument by mail to you would technicaly be a perfect > solution!! > > Erwin > > J. David Bryan wrote: > > > Dear ListFolks, > > > > I have been asked to work (long distance) with the layout artist for a > > small magazine. The organization wishes to post PDF versions of its > > 30-page periodical for viewing over the Web. The generator is QuarkXPress > > 3.31 for the Mac. > > > > The simplest way to produce the PDF version appears to be to have a > > Postscript version of the document e-mailed to me, which I would then > > distill (Distiller 3.02) into PDF. The only hitch is the large number of > > 270-dpi black-and-white photos in the document, rendering a PS file of some > > 50-70 MB in our tests. Over slow modem lines, that's going to take a long > > time to transmit and seems especially wasteful, as I'm planning to > > downsample the photos to 72 dpi during distilling. > > > > Is there some way in QuarkXPress to downsample the photos before (or as > > part of the process of) generating the Postscript output? That would > > provide a far smaller PS file for transmission. The layout artist states > > that downsampling the photos one-at-a-time in Photoshop is not an option > > (too much of his time). I know nothing about QuarkXPress or the Mac, and > > the artist knows nothing about Acrobat or the PC, so our exchanges on this > > topic have not been particularly enlightening. :-) > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > -- > > Dave Bryan > > dbryan@bcpl.net > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > > For more info: John Cook > > List-related questions: > > Sub/Unsub: > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 17:14:38-GMT,2654;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01107 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:14:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20399; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:54:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:52:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20284; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:52:45 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980609164144.00f34480@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> X-Sender: sasrzs@mailhost.fyi.sas.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 12:41:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randy Stoltz Subject: Re: [PDF] Screen Captures Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Try changing the Distiller downsampling options from the default 72 dpi to 150 or 200. It should not make the file much larger but will greatly improve the looks of your screen captures. At 08:51 AM 6/9/98 -0700, you wrote: > >We currently use Hijaak to capture screens, save as GIF, TIFF, or WMF, >import into FrameMaker (5.5.2), print to PS (Adobe's default printer driver >from Frame CD), then distill (3.02). We then use the PDF file to print and >post. The screen caps are usually very poor when distilled and therefore >both versions of the document show the bad graphic. I appreciate your >suggestions for a "resolution." > >Brad Federman >Fujitsu Business Communication Systems >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > > _____________________________________________________________________ Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 ____________________________________________________________________ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 17:58:44-GMT,1669;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02185 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:58:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22712; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:42:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:40:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22658; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:40:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980609102629.007a35c0@ap.net> X-Sender: dan@ap.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 10:26:29 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dan Johnston Subject: [PDF] Distiller Job options settings In-Reply-To: <8525661E.0056C244.00@kanmta01.software.mitel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does distiller 3.01 create a "preferences file" which would store the distilling options I have set. I would like to be able to forward that file to individuals who will be sending PDF's to us so that our correct settings are used for downsampling and font embedding. Sincerely, Dan Johnston Copies, Etc. http://www.copies-etc.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 17:59:43-GMT,2661;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02209 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:59:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22841; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:44:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:43:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22776; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:43:20 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271C72D1@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'Goldin, Susan'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: PDF Maker Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:35:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm seriously looking at Local Render, and Multilinker and will report back results. I had looked at Local Render earlier, but while it did most of what I wanted, interface wise it paled in comparison to what PDFMaker offers. We too are Wordcentric here and are not going to change. Now will Adobe nly step up to address the limitation of PDFMaker? Forget the freebie, if it only worked the way its advertised, I'd be willing to pay $$ for it. -----Original Message----- From: Goldin, Susan [mailto:SG@dolby.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 10:33 AM To: 'kenny.schiff@rauland.com' Subject: PDF Maker It was good to see your question to the PDF list. I too have been struggling with PDFMaker. I have gone through great machinations to get links to work on non-standard page sizes and spent many hours creating bookmarks manually in long documents. I even taught a special class on how to prepare Word documents to have the best chance of getting a useful PDF file from it. The difficulties were such that management finally broke down and bought us Framemaker. Unfortunately, many of the people I work with use Word and must have access to my working files so I have not made the move to exclusive use of FM for document production. I will be following this thread with great interest in hopes of finding some solutions to current PDFMaker problems. Thanks. Susan GOldin ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 18:01:38-GMT,3057;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02292 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:01:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23115; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:49:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:48:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23032; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:48:13 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271C72D1@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" Old-To: "'Goldin, Susan'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: PDF Maker Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:35:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm seriously looking at Local Render, and Multilinker and will report back results. I had looked at Local Render earlier, but while it did most of what I wanted, interface wise it paled in comparison to what PDFMaker offers. We too are Wordcentric here and are not going to change. Now will Adobe nly step up to address the limitation of PDFMaker? Forget the freebie, if it only worked the way its advertised, I'd be willing to pay $$ for it. -----Original Message----- From: Goldin, Susan [mailto:SG@dolby.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 10:33 AM To: 'kenny.schiff@rauland.com' Subject: PDF Maker It was good to see your question to the PDF list. I too have been struggling with PDFMaker. I have gone through great machinations to get links to work on non-standard page sizes and spent many hours creating bookmarks manually in long documents. I even taught a special class on how to prepare Word documents to have the best chance of getting a useful PDF file from it. The difficulties were such that management finally broke down and bought us Framemaker. Unfortunately, many of the people I work with use Word and must have access to my working files so I have not made the move to exclusive use of FM for document production. I will be following this thread with great interest in hopes of finding some solutions to current PDFMaker problems. Thanks. Susan GOldin ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 20:02:14-GMT,3941;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05318 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:02:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27148; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:18:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:16:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27016; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:16:33 -0500 From: jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENSORIUM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8625661E.00692D4F.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:14:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exchange as a service? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am interested in this also, Are you looking to have Distiller run as a service or Exchange? I would like to set-up Distiller or Distiller Assistant as a shared printer on a NT network. The problem is that the PS files usually defalt to the directory the user is currenly using for file storage. The optimal way to network print to PS would be to have a workflow set up so that: Users print to a shared directory, the file is watched by Distiller, and PDF files are saved back to a singe directory with shared access. Eventually I would like to configure it so only the user who sends to the printer can get the PDF files. Any thoughts? Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software 312.786.1330 x515 312.786.1324 fax 1353 South Wabash Avenue Chicago, Illinois 60605 jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com Jennifer Amon on 06/08/98 03:44:01 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Jeremy Treister/Sensorium) Subject: [PDF] Exchange as a service? Hi, Has anyone succeeded in getting Exchange to run as a service? We have a custom plug-in which watches a directory and puts overlays onto pdf files, and we'd like to run it as a service. Currently, it requires that Exchange be up and running, with a user logged in. If anyone has gotten Exchange to run as a service on an NT4 machine, please let me know. Thanks, Jennifer -- _______________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _______________________________________________________________ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 20:10:37-GMT,2675;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05533 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:10:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29447; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:58:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:57:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29367; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:57:05 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980609183125.0096d090@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> X-Sender: sasrzs@mailhost.fyi.sas.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 14:31:25 -0400 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randy Stoltz Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Catalog Question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm trying to build an index to a group of PDF files using Catalog which I have not used before. I'm running Windows NT 4.0 SP3 on a Pentium Pro 200Mhz PC and using Acrobat 3.01. When I start Acrobat Catalog and select Index --> New everything works fine until I go to the Add button to Include the directory no matter what folder I select or what drive I select the Include Directory is always set to D:\WLPRSPL (a totally unrelated directory). I can choose another drive and choose another folder but when I select OK it always adds the D:\WLPRSPL folder regardless of what is selected in the Select Directory window. This is real annoying as I really do not want to put all my PDFs in this folder in order to build an Index. I does create the index (and put it in the directory I select) but the only thing it searches is the above folder. I have reinstalled catalog from the 3.01 update CD but this has not helped. Am I doing something totally wrong or is this a bug? Any suggestions? _____________________________________________________________________ Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 ____________________________________________________________________ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 20:53:00-GMT,2406;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06631 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA31475; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:34:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:33:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31402; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:33:56 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Exchange as a service? Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:19:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bd93e5$cff3d7e0$d56545c2@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <8625661E.00692D4F.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > > I am interested in this also, Are you looking to have > Distiller run as a > service or Exchange? I would like to set-up Distiller or Distiller > Assistant as a shared printer on a NT network. The problem is > that the PS > files usually defalt to the directory the user is currenly > using for file > storage. The optimal way to network print to PS would be to > have a workflow > set up so that: > > Users print to a shared directory, the file is watched by > Distiller, and > PDF files are saved back to a singe directory with shared access. > Eventually I would like to configure it so only the user who > sends to the > printer can get the PDF files.> > Any thoughts? > Technically, Microsoft's SVRANY utility can apparently be used succesfully to make Distiller a service. Check your licenses carefully though - if you are seeking to avoid buying Distiller licenses from this approach you may be disappointed. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 20:55:11-GMT,2715;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06681 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:55:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA31029; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:27:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:25:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30928; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:25:40 -0500 From: jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENSORIUM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8625661E.0070088B.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:23:42 -0500 Subject: [PDF] News from the QuickTime licensing front Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Jeremy Treister@SENSORIUM on 06/09/98 03:23 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: Subject: News from the QuickTime licensing front I spoke to Mitchell Weinstock, Product Manager for QuickTime at Apple today, and we discussed the skinny. Mitchell is disappointed that Adobe has not yet developed a new plug-in to use the QuickTime 3 runtime in Acrobat. There are (3) options for new media developers that want to still utilize QuickTime 2.12 for Windows. Ship installers for both 2.12 and 3. For example, make an Install Shield program that calls both installations. Ship the new media product (that uses the QuickTime 2 API) without the QuickTime runtime installer at all. Mitchell cited a Media Matrix statistic that 67% of Windows PCs in May 1998 had QuickTime 2 installed on them. The danger here is that at least 33% of Windows PC's do not have QuickTime, and therefore will be unable to view the videos/ hear the sounds! For products that are Windows 3.1 only, there is no QuickTime 3, so it is still possible for developers to distribute QuickTime 2.12 (16 bit). Probably by the end of this week, the licensing agreements that detail these options will be posted to the Apple web-site. I hope you all find this useful! Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software 312.786.1330 x515 312.786.1324 fax 1353 South Wabash Avenue Chicago, Illinois 60605 jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 21:52:24-GMT,1874;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08071 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:52:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA01690; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:34:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:32:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01593; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:32:22 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] News from the QuickTime licensing front Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:23:50 +0100 Message-ID: <001001bd93ed$f4af3fe0$d56545c2@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <8625661E.0070088B.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I spoke to Mitchell Weinstock, Product Manager for QuickTime at Apple > today, and we discussed the skinny. Mitchell is disappointed > that Adobe > has not yet developed a new plug-in to use the QuickTime 3 runtime in > Acrobat. So, Apple make an incompatible change, and developers all over the world have to stop what they are doing and play catch up? What an outrageous position! Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jun-1998 23:15:41-GMT,4504;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09912 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:15:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA04842; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:47:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:45:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04769; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:45:15 -0500 Message-ID: <357DBB08.9B02F7A9@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 18:45:28 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exchange as a service? References: <8625661E.00692D4F.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA04766 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Set up Distiller on a server and have the clients write to the in folder of the watched folder(s) of Distiller. This config will work fine. Don't use Distiller Assistant as this is not a batch processing app like Distiller. HTH Bob Moran jtreister@sensoriumsoftware.com wrote: > I am interested in this also, Are you looking to have Distiller run as a > service or Exchange? I would like to set-up Distiller or Distiller > Assistant as a shared printer on a NT network. The problem is that the PS > files usually defalt to the directory the user is currenly using for file > storage. The optimal way to network print to PS would be to have a workflow > set up so that: > > Users print to a shared directory, the file is watched by Distiller, and > PDF files are saved back to a singe directory with shared access. > Eventually I would like to configure it so only the user who sends to the > printer can get the PDF files. > > Any thoughts? > > Jeremy Treister > > Sensorium Software > 312.786.1330 x515 > 312.786.1324 fax > > 1353 South Wabash Avenue > Chicago, Illinois 60605 > > jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com > > Jennifer Amon on 06/08/98 03:44:01 PM > > Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > cc: (bcc: Jeremy Treister/Sensorium) > > > > Subject: [PDF] Exchange as a service? > > > Hi, > > Has anyone succeeded in getting Exchange to run as a service? > > We have a custom plug-in which watches a directory and puts > overlays onto pdf files, and we'd like to run it as a service. > Currently, it requires that Exchange be up and running, with > a user logged in. > > If anyone has gotten Exchange to run as a service on an NT4 > machine, please let me know. > > Thanks, > Jennifer > > -- > _______________________________________________________________ > Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 > Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 > Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net > 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com > North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ > _______________________________________________________________ > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 3:47:31-GMT,3279;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15035 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:47:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA15088; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:28:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:25:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14986; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:25:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <357D3217.85EDF741@ix.netcom.com> References: <3576D8C9.85686FA1@aegisgroup.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:26:40 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: shane@archangel.net Subject: Re: [PDF] Posting Comments to Web-based PDFs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Re: Downsampling in Quark XPress Actually, I have witnessed Quark downsampling images, but this only occurs in TIFF files when there is sufficient information about the device in the PostScript Printer Description file and, even then, only when an appropriate output resolution is indicated in the Page Setup dialog, and when the moon is one-quarter or three-quarters full. At best, depending on this method to consistently down-rez your pics would be frustrating. A better plan, which wouldn't lead to much extra work, might be for the designer (who is hopefully using Photoshop 4.0) to set up a simple Action script (part of the program...nothing extra to buy) to open all the scans and re-save them as JPEG-encoded EPS files in another directory. This way, he won't mess with his originals, which can simply be hidden from view of the Quark doc. Nice thing about this is... he can do it while he's having dinner. Then... When the QX doc wants to relink, just point it at the JPEG-encoded homonyms - and away, ya go! Save re-linked QX doc with new name and kick out some righteous PostScript. Since QX doesn't decompress the JPEGs during download (as it does with LZW for TIFFs) the files will have the BIG look - with the SMALL size. Also, save these files with JPEG preview information to further compress and add additional lustre to your on-screen previews. Possible fly in ointment... maybe the designer isn't using EPS. Word of caution... JPEG-encoded EPS files are not compatible with all imaging systems (not even all PS Level 2 versions). This won't matter much if the destination is PDF and, best of all, the JPEG compression in Photoshop, when set to Maximum Quality, is clean and SMALL! Regards, Shane -- Shane Steinman Logistics & Diagnostics, ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. W., Ste. 910, Toronto, Ont., CAN M3H 2R7 Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 email: shane@archangel.net ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 4:02:53-GMT,2108;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15342 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:02:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA15950; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:51:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:50:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15912; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:50:38 -0500 Message-ID: <357DCA18.6D733591@nycap.rr.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 23:49:39 +0000 From: David Doonan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf list Subject: [PDF] Exchange Backwards Compatibility Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a way in exchange to save a pdf so it is readable in 2.1 as well as 3.0? I recently took an existing pdf file created by someone else and used exchange to add links between the table of contents and the articles. the result works great with reader 3.0, but with earlier versions of reader the pdf will open but fails to display correctly. either the type shows up as blocks of color, or it fails to show up at all. I tried exporting the pdf as an eps to re-distill, but it would not distill due to missing fonts which i do not have access to. I am new to this list, so if this is an obvious question, my apologies. -- David Doonan ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com http://home.nycap.rr.com/dadoonans/ IP 204.210.176.42 Greenwich, New York . . . The best small town in the world! ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 4:27:44-GMT,2876;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15829 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:27:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA16391; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:03:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:02:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16342; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:02:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Exchange Backwards Compatibility Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:05:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David, If you can get a hold of the original doco (or the PS), you can distill it to version 2.1, you just have to change the settings for compatibility in Distiller. This is all I could come up with. Hope it helps. d......................... > -----Original Message----- > From: David Doonan [SMTP:ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 7:50 AM > To: pdf list > Subject: [PDF] Exchange Backwards Compatibility > > > Is there a way in exchange to save a pdf so it is > readable in 2.1 as well as 3.0? > > I recently took an existing pdf file created by > someone else and used exchange to add links > between the table of contents and the articles. > the result works great with reader 3.0, but with > earlier versions of reader the pdf will open but > fails to display correctly. either the type shows > > up as blocks of color, or it fails to show up at > all. > > I tried exporting the pdf as an eps to re-distill, > > but it would not distill due to missing fonts > which i do not have access to. > > I am new to this list, so if this is an obvious > question, my apologies. > > > -- > David Doonan > ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com > http://home.nycap.rr.com/dadoonans/ > IP 204.210.176.42 > > Greenwich, New York > . . . The best small town in the world! > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 5:31:40-GMT,1907;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17070 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:31:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA18239; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:04:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:03:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18159; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:03:21 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 9 Jun 98 22:02 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <357DCA18.6D733591@nycap.rr.com> (message from David Doonan on Tue, 09 Jun 1998 23:49:39 +0000) Subject: Re: [PDF] Exchange Backwards Compatibility Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Is there a way in exchange to save a pdf so it is > readable in 2.1 as well as 3.0? You might want to give Ghostscript a try. ps2pdf -dCompatibilityLevel=1.1 input.pdf output.pdf Despite the name 'ps2pdf', this utility is also capable of converting PDF to PDF. (Of course, if you're starting from a PS file, you can run ps2pdf on it directly.) Ghostscript is free, and is available from the URL below. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 5:31:46-GMT,2303;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17074 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:31:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA18420; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:09:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:08:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18377; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:08:14 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 9 Jun 98 22:02 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <357DCA18.6D733591@nycap.rr.com> (message from David Doonan on Tue, 09 Jun 1998 23:49:39 +0000) Subject: Re: [PDF] Exchange Backwards Compatibility X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Is there a way in exchange to save a pdf so it is > readable in 2.1 as well as 3.0? You might want to give Ghostscript a try. ps2pdf -dCompatibilityLevel=1.1 input.pdf output.pdf Despite the name 'ps2pdf', this utility is also capable of converting PDF to PDF. (Of course, if you're starting from a PS file, you can run ps2pdf on it directly.) Ghostscript is free, and is available from the URL below. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 9:06:30-GMT,2822;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21310 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 03:06:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA24005; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 03:50:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 03:48:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23918; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 03:48:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Exchange Backwards Compatibility Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:43:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd944c$763d5c00$f05695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <357DCA18.6D733591@nycap.rr.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In general, I'd say yes - print and redistill. But that loses the links. If you JUST add links - not form fields, no fancy actions, no text editing - in Exchange 3.0 it should remain compatible with 2.1. Aandi > > Is there a way in exchange to save a pdf so it is > readable in 2.1 as well as 3.0? > > I recently took an existing pdf file created by > someone else and used exchange to add links > between the table of contents and the articles. > the result works great with reader 3.0, but with > earlier versions of reader the pdf will open but > fails to display correctly. either the type shows > > up as blocks of color, or it fails to show up at > all. > > I tried exporting the pdf as an eps to re-distill, > > but it would not distill due to missing fonts > which i do not have access to. > > I am new to this list, so if this is an obvious > question, my apologies. > > > -- > David Doonan > ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com > http://home.nycap.rr.com/dadoonans/ > IP 204.210.176.42 > > Greenwich, New York > . . . The best small town in the world! > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 9:17:59-GMT,3515;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21505 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 03:17:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA24279; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 03:59:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 03:58:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA24229; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 03:58:22 -0500 Message-ID: <357E4B18.DF065945@empa.ch> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:00:15 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Screen Captures References: <2.2.32.19980609164144.00f34480@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'd like to underline that statement. In the digital world there is that Nyqist law which says that one should always grab twice the resolution one needs in the end. Therefore you get a much better image quality by downsampling to 144 dpi. Unfortunately if someone grabs images from a screen where they are already 72 dpi, there is no possibility to enhance the image quality. Erwin Randy Stoltz wrote: > Try changing the Distiller downsampling options from the default 72 dpi to > 150 or 200. It should not make the file much larger but will greatly improve > the looks of your screen captures. > > At 08:51 AM 6/9/98 -0700, you wrote: > > > >We currently use Hijaak to capture screens, save as GIF, TIFF, or WMF, > >import into FrameMaker (5.5.2), print to PS (Adobe's default printer driver > >from Frame CD), then distill (3.02). We then use the PDF file to print and > >post. The screen caps are usually very poor when distilled and therefore > >both versions of the document show the bad graphic. I appreciate your > >suggestions for a "resolution." > > > >Brad Federman > >Fujitsu Business Communication Systems > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > >For more info: John Cook > >List-related questions: > >Sub/Unsub: > >--------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. > Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive > Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA > Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 > ____________________________________________________________________ > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 10:23:55-GMT,3823;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22686 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:23:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA25890; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:59:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:58:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25841; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:58:38 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980610114438.00923d30@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:44:38 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? In-Reply-To: <357D5EB9.582BAE87@aegisgroup.com> References: <199806090456.AAA13882@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> <357D5612.AA93A19B@empa.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> J. David Bryan wrote: >> >> > Dear ListFolks, >> > >> > I have been asked to work (long distance) with the layout artist for a >> > small magazine. The organization wishes to post PDF versions of its >> > 30-page periodical for viewing over the Web. The generator is QuarkXPress >> > 3.31 for the Mac. >> > >> > The simplest way to produce the PDF version appears to be to have a >> > Postscript version of the document e-mailed to me, which I would then >> > distill (Distiller 3.02) into PDF. The only hitch is the large number of >> > 270-dpi black-and-white photos in the document, rendering a PS file of some >> > 50-70 MB in our tests. Over slow modem lines, that's going to take a long >> > time to transmit and seems especially wasteful, as I'm planning to >> > downsample the photos to 72 dpi during distilling. >> > >> > Is there some way in QuarkXPress to downsample the photos before (or as >> > part of the process of) generating the Postscript output? That would >> > provide a far smaller PS file for transmission. The layout artist states >> > that downsampling the photos one-at-a-time in Photoshop is not an option >> > (too much of his time). I know nothing about QuarkXPress or the Mac, and >> > the artist knows nothing about Acrobat or the PC, so our exchanges on this >> > topic have not been particularly enlightening. :-) >> > >> > Thanks for any help! If the images are TIFF or JPEG (or PICT (yuck!)) rather than EPS XPress will downsample them anyway. To downsample grayscale and colour images set the halftone frequency in the Page Setup dialog to half of the res you want (i.e. 36 lpi for 72 dpi). Controlling the downsampling of 1 bit data is a bit trickier - XPress will downsample to the resolution set on the page setup dialog, but most PPD/PDFs don't give you free rein to fiddle with that so you may need to tweak a PPD to do that part. None of this works for EPS files in general (although something is nagging at the back of my mind that XPress can downsample some EPS files from PhotoShop). Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 12:40:39-GMT,1716;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25015 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 06:40:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA29543; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:17:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:16:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29471; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:16:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199806101216.IAA27362@pablo.total.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Exchange as a service? Date: Wed, 10 Jun 98 08:17:13 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Edward Chiu To: "PDF" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >Set up Distiller on a server and have the clients write to the in folder >of the >watched folder(s) of Distiller. This config will work fine. Don't use >Distiller >Assistant as this is not a batch processing app like Distiller. HTH > >Bob Moran Please be careful if the PS file distilled thru hot folders, the spot color cannot be distilled out. That mean the epilogue & prologue is not working with hot folders, it only work when you distill the file manully. < ed > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 12:40:41-GMT,2044;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25022 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 06:40:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA29163; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:08:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:06:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29087; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:06:55 -0500 Message-ID: <357E76CB.53EE1CE1@moen.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:06:35 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exchange as a service? References: <8625661E.00692D4F.00@mail.sensorium-software.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com wrote: > > I am interested in this also, Are you looking to have Distiller run as a > service or Exchange? Exchange. I already have Distiller running as a service, and it works fine. I couldn't seem to accomplish the same thing with Exchange. -- _______________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _______________________________________________________________________ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 13:31:15-GMT,1889;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26021 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:31:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA31070; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:53:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:52:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31006; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:52:42 -0500 Message-ID: <005301bd946e$9b82dcc0$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] color PDFs Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:52:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 What programs (other than PageGenie) can I use to create a color PDF from a scanned image? I don';t want to just make a pdf of the picture, but OCR it, then save as PDF. PageGenie does a decent job except it has "text zones" and "image zones" and when they overlap, the text looks horrible because the OCR'd text is placed OVER the image text. not to mention the OCR capability isn't all that fantastic. (in case anyone was thinking about purchasing it, make sure to check out the fully functional demo first) -Brett ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 14:40:41-GMT,1997;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27443 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:40:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03215; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:17:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:14:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02902; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:14:01 -0500 From: EarlineF@aol.com Message-ID: <4d409471.357e9495@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:13:40 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Fragmenting screen capture graphics help needed Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 196 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm a new subscriber to this list. I'm also new to the process of creating PDF files from MSWord files and would appreciate all the help anyone can give me. I'm writing the procedures for writers to follow when they convert their files. When we create PDF files from Word (Office97), we get fragmented screen captures. We used PaintShop Pro for the screen captures. We purchased and use Adobe Acrobat 3.0. We've tried various compressions, trying to optimize the files, with no success. Sometimes the PDF screen captures come together using the zoom tool, but sometimes they fragment even more. We write technical documentation for internal technical readers and need the screen captures to be crystal clear. Thanks, Earline Technical Editor ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 14:40:56-GMT,1789;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27449 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:40:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03591; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:22:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:20:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03407; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:20:08 -0500 Message-ID: <000101bd947a$d0c479a0$72946f83@ChrisHamilton.cup.cam.ac.uk> From: "Christopher Hamilton-Emery" To: "PDF LISTS" Subject: [PDF] Handling bleeds from PDF Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:19:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Are there any views on how to handle bleeds in PDF? Some of my contacts seem to suggest that increasing the page dimension by 3mm and using the crop command in Exchange is the correct route. I have some doubts about this. When exporting PostScript from a bled job that has been converted to PDF all bleed appears to be lost. All help welcomed Best Chris Hamiton-Emery ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 15:08:09-GMT,2301;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27981 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:08:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05206; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:46:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:43:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04989; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:43:35 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Handling bleeds from PDF Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:42:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bd947e$02ccac80$f05695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <000101bd947a$d0c479a0$72946f83@ChrisHamilton.cup.cam.ac.uk> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 So far as I know the only tool to work directly with bleeds is Quite Imposing Plus. I have not seen any other proposals for a standard for handling bleeds (our proposal is at http://www.quite.com/draft/bleeds.htm but this is for developers and wopn't help end users). The PDF specification is conspiciously silent on the area of bleeds, and the relationship of crop and media boxes to the final PostScript printed. Aandi Inston Quite Software http://www.quite.com/ > > Are there any views on how to handle bleeds in PDF? Some of > my contacts seem > to suggest that increasing the page dimension by 3mm and > using the crop > command in Exchange is the correct route. I have some doubts > about this. > When exporting PostScript from a bled job that has been > converted to PDF all > bleed appears to be lost. > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 16:10:17-GMT,2998;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29427 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:10:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09093; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:54:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:52:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08999; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:52:27 -0500 Message-ID: <357EABC5.38FF0CB6@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:52:37 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Fragmenting screen capture graphics help needed References: <4d409471.357e9495@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA08996 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Have you tried a 75dpi res when porting the screen grabs into Word. I found out about that when I was using screen grabs with Frame in doing a design project for a client. HTH Bob Moran EarlineF@aol.com wrote: > I'm a new subscriber to this list. I'm also new to the process of creating > PDF files from MSWord files and would appreciate all the help anyone can give > me. I'm writing the procedures for writers to follow when they convert their > files. > > When we create PDF files from Word (Office97), we get fragmented screen > captures. We used PaintShop Pro for the screen captures. We purchased and use > Adobe Acrobat 3.0. We've tried various compressions, trying to optimize the > files, with no success. Sometimes the PDF screen captures come together using > the zoom tool, but sometimes they fragment even more. > > We write technical documentation for internal technical readers and need the > screen captures to be crystal clear. > > Thanks, > Earline > Technical Editor > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 16:29:54-GMT,2451;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29917 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:29:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10293; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:16:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:15:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10234; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:15:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199806101615.JAA21909@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:58:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Handling bleeds from PDF From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >Are there any views on how to handle bleeds in PDF? Some of my contacts seem >to suggest that increasing the page dimension by 3mm and using the crop >command in Exchange is the correct route. I have some doubts about this. >When exporting PostScript from a bled job that has been converted to PDF all >bleed appears to be lost. I make most of my PDFs from QuarkXpress. In Page Setup I specify "Acrobat Distiller 3.0" for Printer Type which typically sizes the PDF output to whatever page size is necessary to show the entirety of the pages specified for printing, including Spreads. Then I "Print" with registration marks on. What happens is that I get all of my page plus a "bleed area" including registration and crop marks of about 1/2". I then Distill to PDF. The result is a full-size PDF that I can save with full bleed, or document crop using the crop marks. Works every time. Hope this helps. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 17:06:41-GMT,2091;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00789 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:06:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA12079; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:51:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:49:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11934; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:49:28 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825661F.005B520C.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:48:22 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Printing Distilled Photos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a question about Distiller. I am trying to figure this out and how it works. We are distilling some pages that have 4 color in it. Problem with this old program that we use is that it doesn't "accept" CMYK TIFF files. For workaround, the guy that put the files together last year placed RGB EPS files and distilled those. My question is, how did the printers ever produce the color work for it if the files were distilled and PDF'ed with RGB photos? To my knowledge, no film was sent and this was a straight PDF job. I am trying to figure out how this former employee put this together and I am left scratching my head. The EPS files when opened individually are 72dpi. Is this possible or am I missing something? And more importantly, how did the printers work this out? Let me know if anyone can help! Thanks regards, rob ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 17:17:19-GMT,1990;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01012 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:17:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA12578; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:58:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:57:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12462; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:57:24 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825661F.005C535D.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:56:17 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Learning Acrobat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'd like to learn how to use Exchange more than just "viewing, inserting/deleting pages, and printing". How do you use or create the TOC's? I have seen some PDF's that have the open left hand frame? (and the "hyperlinking" feature?) Basically I just take a document, print to file, distill and open the PDF. I want to learn to do more than just the basics but how does one do it? Also, could someone recommend an indepth book on Acrobat? I have seen 4 in the stores but havent decided so if anyone knows, let me know, I hate to waste money on a bad book. They are: "Adobe Acrobat" by Adobe Press "From Paper to Web" by Adobe Press "Acrobat and PDF..." something by AGFA press? "Quickstart guide to Acrobat" Thanks for any help in advance! rob ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 17:25:44-GMT,2253;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01229 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:25:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13424; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:13:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:12:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13340; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:12:35 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825661F.005D1E1A.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:11:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Screen Captures-Old fashioned way! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Brad, I had to once place a screen grab of an IE Browser window into a catalog at printer resolution! The best "cleanup" is to take the 72dpi file into Photoshop if you have that, and "cleanup" by changing levels or curves to your liking. Blurring the moire patterns help and in preferences change the interpolation to "nearest neighbor" and upsample the file to 300dpi (be sure to constrain the size of the window frame to the original) Then replace the text with the photoshop text tool with "anti-aliasing" on. You can get rid of the default "Chicago" or "MS San Serif" with a font like Helvetica or Trebuchet and it should look years better. (Just to have fun, I also replaced the IE browser with a Netscape Communicator broswer grab and replaced the flying comets with an Apple logo) Distill from Photoshop or save as a TIFF and place it in Word and you should have a "better" screen grab. It takes time, but if quality is key, this is the best way that I have used. regards, rob ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 17:42:45-GMT,3767;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01685 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:42:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14099; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:23:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:22:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14031; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:22:10 -0500 Message-ID: <357EC13A.7AD10F52@pre-print.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:24:14 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Characters overlapping in Acrobat for NT References: <9804248934.AA893431994@dcns.bna.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are experimenting with a non-standard single byte Vietnamese font in Acrobat. The font is easily recognized by fontographer, and any accented characters (there are a lot of unique variations in Vietnamese) are special characters, rather than in the case of many fonts, an accent kerned over a character. One of the special variations in this font is a "horn", which looks like a large single close quotation mark emerging from some of the "u"s and "o"s. Unfortunately, when viewed in Acrobat 3.0 on Windows NT, we have a problem. Two characters (173 and 204) would totally overlap the character following them. Oddly enough, those characters overlap even in the ad with Times New Roman as the chosen font. This is reassuring, because the right sidebearing for the Vietnamese characters appears normal in Fontographer When opened in Illustrator on the PC, files with the Vietnamese font would report that the Type 1 font resources were unavailable, so TrueType resources (which I had installed in winnt\fonts) would be substituted (on the other hand, Illustrator on the Mac and PC wouldn't overlap the characters; they were more likely to create character substitutions). Considering that both Illustrator and Reader are Adobe products, I thought, why not feed their interests? I put Type 1 PFB resources into Acrobat3\Reader\Fonts and PFMs into Acrobat3\Reader\Fonts\Pfm. In anticipation, because oi302nt had been identified as our resource path in the System environment panel, I also put the AFM, the PFM and the PFB into oi302nt\LIB\Acroread\FONTS. I have never seen this use of an environment path outside of our application, so this last installation may have been unnecessary. We still have the same problem. 1) Is there any reason for Reader 3 on Win NT to be messing up characters 173 and 204? 2) Is this a deficiency in Reader 3? 3) Would Reader 3 be under the impression that these are accents, rather than fully accented characters and adjusting the kerning to compensate? 4) Would I be making a mistaking mapping the characters to other, empty, spaces in Fontographer? 5) Any ideas about how to get out of this/create a workaround? -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 18:00:46-GMT,3540;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02166 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:00:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15120; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:41:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:41:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15069; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:41:01 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6086C@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] color PDFs Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:54:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 As developer of PageGenie, I like to clarify a few points here. 1. In the current version, if the text zone is not overlapping with a separate image zone, there is a special layer to remove the text image so that the OCRed text image does NOT place OVER the text image on the display. 2. You can choose to output with or without any of the objects (background, image layer, etc.) so that the output effect is at its best. Just turn each object on or off. 3. The OCR engine in the trial version is a "reduced" version of Expervision OCR so that the download size is much smaller. 6.5 MB instead of over 10MB. The retail CD version does not have the limitation and include the full OCR engine (the award winning --best accuracy 3 out 4 years-- Expervision engine). 4. The OCR in the trial version is already miles ahead that of Adobe Capture 2.0x in terms of speed and accuracy. 5. The Pro version due a couple of months (I know everyone hates vaporware.....) will have many additional improved and advanced functions. (e.g., overlapped image region on text layer will not affect the text OCR and accuracy, automated process, higher page decomposition intelligence, etc. etc.) 6. The full functions of PageGenie has certain depth and requires going through the Help Menu to be able to fully utilize the features. (On a larger scale, one needs to work on Photoshop or Word, or Excel, etc...for some time to really appreciate the many nice features......) 7. I guess the first step is to understand manipulation of the decomposed "regions" and "Layers" of the page image. 8. Once you get familiar with it, you should agree that this OCR software is the premium tool in the market place. (Still far from human minds where we try very hard to narrow the gap....) > What programs (other than PageGenie) can I use to create a color PDF > from a > scanned image? I don';t want to just make a pdf of the picture, but > OCR it, > then save as PDF. PageGenie does a decent job except it has "text > zones" > and "image zones" and when they overlap, the text looks horrible > because the > OCR'd text is placed OVER the image text. not to mention the OCR > capability > isn't all that fantastic. (in case anyone was thinking about > purchasing it, > make sure to check out the fully functional demo first) > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 18:01:31-GMT,2021;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02192 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:01:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15466; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:49:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:48:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15409; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:48:46 -0500 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525661F.006135E3.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:47:34 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Byte-serving Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have been using optimized PDF files with a NetScape server that can do byte-serving successfully. We were able to see the first page of a PDF file very fast. This worked fine until we introduced a proxy server at one location. I don't know much about the proxy server, but it looks like that the proxy server does not know how to byte-serve optimized PDF files. When clicking on a PDF file, the first page seems to appear very fast, but it is not possible to jump to other pages. Clicking on any bookmarks does not do anything either. It looks like the whole file has to be downloaded before hyperlinks will work. In the wrost case, NetScape and Acrobat Reader will lock up. Does anyone know if byte-serving works with a NetScape proxy server? Thanks, RJ Jiwungkul Bellcore rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 18:29:03-GMT,2845;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02837 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:29:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16562; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:07:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:03:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16241; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:03:51 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Learning Acrobat Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:57:27 +0100 Message-ID: <001501bd949a$0053ac80$f05695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <8825661F.005C535D.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All of these things are covered in the help file, which is worth a look, at least. Knowing the jargon is a big help- what you refer to as a TOC is called a "bookmark" in Acrobat-ese. There are also in-depth tutorials on the Acrobat 3.0 CDROM, which nobody seems to use. Aandi > I'd like to learn how to use Exchange more > than just "viewing, inserting/deleting pages, > and printing". > > How do you use or create the TOC's? I have > seen some PDF's that have the open left > hand frame? (and the "hyperlinking" feature?) > > Basically I just take a document, print to file, > distill and open the PDF. > > I want to learn to do more than just the basics > but how does one do it? > > Also, could someone recommend an indepth > book on Acrobat? > > I have seen 4 in the stores but havent decided > so if anyone knows, let me know, I hate to waste > money on a bad book. > They are: > "Adobe Acrobat" by Adobe Press > "From Paper to Web" by Adobe Press > "Acrobat and PDF..." something by AGFA press? > "Quickstart guide to Acrobat" > > Thanks for any help in advance! > > rob > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 18:37:55-GMT,2596;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03052 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:37:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16555; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:07:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:03:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16261; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:03:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Distilled Photos Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:55:25 +0100 Message-ID: <001401bd9499$ff258cc0$f05695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <8825661F.005B520C.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I am trying to figure this out and how it works. > > We are distilling some pages that have 4 color in it. > Problem with this old program that we use is that it > doesn't "accept" CMYK TIFF files. For workaround, > the guy that put the files together last year placed > RGB EPS files and distilled those. > > My question is, how did the printers ever produce > the color work for it if the files were distilled and > PDF'ed with RGB photos? > > To my knowledge, no film was sent and this was > a straight PDF job. No problem at all with in-RIP separation, which is perfectly happy with RGB. In fact, it's possible for the on-host separation systems to handle RGB, but they by and large don't bother. Analysis of QuarkXpress PostScript showed that if you place an EPS with an RGB image it does understand this; it does specific processing to turn it into a mono image and place it on the black plate. It could almost as easily have placed these onto the other plates using some fixed black generation rule. I wrote a plug-in to turn RGB data in any PDF file into CMYK, but it won't have been used in this case. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 18:43:12-GMT,3050;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03196 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:43:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA17713; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:29:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:28:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17633; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:28:17 -0500 Message-ID: <357EE0C7.D47D7D2D@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:38:49 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Learning Acrobat References: <8825661F.005C535D.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Check out the tutorials on the DC website. The set is designed to get people up to speed using Acrobat. TOCs can be easily generated by using Exchange's bookmark function, which are analgious to having chapters in a book. Bob Moran Robert Lira wrote: > I'd like to learn how to use Exchange more > than just "viewing, inserting/deleting pages, > and printing". > > How do you use or create the TOC's? I have > seen some PDF's that have the open left > hand frame? (and the "hyperlinking" feature?) > > Basically I just take a document, print to file, > distill and open the PDF. > > I want to learn to do more than just the basics > but how does one do it? > > Also, could someone recommend an indepth > book on Acrobat? > > I have seen 4 in the stores but havent decided > so if anyone knows, let me know, I hate to waste > money on a bad book. > They are: > "Adobe Acrobat" by Adobe Press > "From Paper to Web" by Adobe Press > "Acrobat and PDF..." something by AGFA press? > "Quickstart guide to Acrobat" > > Thanks for any help in advance! > > rob > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Voice 203-452-1116 Fax 203-452-0416 e-mail remoran@dconstructs.com e-mail remoran@kiwi.futuris.net Web Site: List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 18:55:42-GMT,1406;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03498 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:55:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18300; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:41:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:40:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18271; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:40:30 -0500 Message-ID: <357EC592.4F772C98@realworld.com.au> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:42:43 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sorry listers trying to work out a posting bug Dean ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 20:16:31-GMT,1568;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05441 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22087; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:59:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:58:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22003; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:58:54 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825661F.006D4B15.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:57:44 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Plug In Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone out there know of any Acrobat plug in that allows you to "insert" text, graphics, or tables into an already existing PDF file? Sort of like "Redwing" or "ForTE" in REVERSE. Or does Redwing or ForTE do this? Basically I need a tool that will help us with critical print deadlines for our big catalog. thanks, rob ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 20:16:31-GMT,1331;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05442 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21784; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:54:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:52:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21667; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:52:51 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825661F.006CFF7E.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:51:12 -0700 Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Distilled Photos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi, How does your plug in work and how could I obtain a copy? thanks rob ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 20:43:51-GMT,3136;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06120 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:43:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23469; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:27:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:26:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23390; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:26:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:22:50 -0700 Message-ID: <0004CEC7.1343@seatimes.com> From: jrackerby@seatimes.com (Jayson Rackerby) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Mac OCR to PDF - does anything exist? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.882015798" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --IMA.Boundary.882015798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Howdy all: I'm trying to find a Mac OCR program that can export/save the converted text as a PDF and retain the original's formatting. While we could do something cleaver with LaserWriter 8.5.1 to generate a PDF I'd prefer a solution developed just for that. PageGenie, Capture and TextBridge for Windoze have this functionality, but I've yet to find a Mac product. Any ideas? TIA JJR --IMA.Boundary.882015798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from seatimes.seatimes.com (192.251.219.14) by ccmail.seatimes.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 0004CE77; Wed, 10 Jun 98 13:02:18 -0700 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by seatimes.seatimes.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25877 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22064; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:59:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:58:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22003; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:58:54 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825661F.006D4B15.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:57:44 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Plug In Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --IMA.Boundary.882015798-- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 20:45:45-GMT,4503;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06177 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:45:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23184; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:21:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:20:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23138; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:20:09 -0500 Message-ID: <357EEAE6.FC698297@pre-print.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:22:06 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] More characters overlapping in Acrobat for NT References: <9804248934.AA893431994@dcns.bna.com> <357EC13A.7AD10F52@pre-print.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------74D65FE0B491D0FCFC6B51C6" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --------------74D65FE0B491D0FCFC6B51C6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Two characters (173 and 204) would totally overlap the character > following them in Acrobat for NT. Oddly enough, those characters overlap even > with Times New Roman as the chosen font. > The continuing investigation . . . To get rid of the character overlap, we tried manually adding space after the troublesome characters by using the "Tc" operator in the PDF file. The overlapping characters went away after that. I don't think that is much of a solution, however. Then we noticed that there is a "Widths" array in the PDF defined for each font used. We counted through the array and found that the widths for the two characters that are causing overlapping is set to zero! When we manually change that width in the array, the ad preview looks perfect. The most bizarre thing is that the AFM file lists the widths (in the WX field) for these characters as 556! I don't understand why our PDF generator would get some of the widths correctly from the AFM and then set some of them to zero. Unless it is getting these widths from somewhere else... Any ideas? -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca --------------74D65FE0B491D0FCFC6B51C6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 

    Two characters (173 and 204) would totally overlap the character
following them in Acrobat for NT. Oddly enough, those characters overlap even
with Times New Roman as the chosen font.
    The continuing investigation . . .

    To get rid of the character overlap, we tried manually adding space after the troublesome characters by using the "Tc" operator in the PDF file. The overlapping characters went away after that. I don't think that is much of a solution, however.

    Then we noticed that there is a "Widths" array in the PDF defined for each font used. We counted through the array and found that the widths for the two characters that are causing overlapping is set to zero! When we manually change that width in the array, the ad preview looks perfect.

    The most bizarre thing is that the AFM file lists the widths (in the WX field) for these characters as 556! I don't understand why our PDF generator would get some of the widths correctly from the AFM and then set some of them to zero. Unless it is getting these widths from somewhere else...

    Any ideas?
    --

    Most respectfully,

    Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc.
    tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283  alt (403) 461-0333
    fax (403) 452-6972   website: http://www.pre-print.com
          website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca
      --------------74D65FE0B491D0FCFC6B51C6-- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 21:00:58-GMT,2770;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06471 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:00:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24512; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:49:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:47:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24368; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:47:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199806102047.NAA26957@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:37:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Learning Acrobat From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I'd like to learn how to use Exchange more than just "viewing, inserting/deleting pages, and printing". >How do you use or create the TOC's? I have seen some PDF's that have the open left hand frame? (and the "hyperlinking" feature?) >I want to learn to do more than just the basics but how does one do it? The questions you raise (this message and the RGB/CMYK one) show that you are one of the PDF initiates who are learning about the power of this exciting format and need a graphic designers orientation to PDF. I invite you to check out the web site (http://www.performancegraphics.com/) I have developed as a graphic arts consultant to some major So. California institutions. There is an overview discussion of the current state and future of digital publishing (see "Universal Publishing", there are many uses listed for PDF, quite a number of "how-to's". >Also, could someone recommend an indepth >book on Acrobat? My site also has links to a variety of sites for troubleshooting and finding service providers for PDF. In my "What's New" section there are links to two excellent books that are available for your perusal, free and online (go to http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/whatsnew.html). Hope this helps, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 21:25:06-GMT,2352;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07026 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:25:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24952; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:57:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:55:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24820; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:55:29 -0500 Message-ID: <000301bd94b1$c3e6ffa0$9956c897@dale.querisoft.com> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: [PDF] Page Size Wrong Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:53:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This one seems to have me stumped -- any ideas? Creating a PDF of a software user guide (yeah, the screen shots look nasty but that's a problem for another day). The document uses an odd page size -- 7.48 inches wide by 8.47 inches high. It's created in Word (97), I'm on an NT system (V4 with SP3), using Distiller V3.01. I have the latest Distiller printer driver installed (V5). Here's the deal -- everything (Word, the driver, and Distiller) all say the page size is 7.48 x 8.47, but when I open the PDF file it's 8.5 x 11. Any ideas on what I'm overlooking?? I would just say the heck with it and crop the pages so they are the right size, but I want to send the postscript file to a printer and it thinks it's 8.5 x 11 (612 points by 792 points to be precise). I tried hacking the postscript, but I can't quite figure it out. I'm guessing that the likely culprit is the driver -- but I don't know why. Appreciate any ideas. Regards, Dale Gardner daleg@ix.netcom.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 21:30:08-GMT,2216;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07136 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:30:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA25867; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:15:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:14:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25779; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:14:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199806102114.OAA27436@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:14:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug In Question From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Does anyone out there know of any Acrobat >plug in that allows you to "insert" text, graphics, >or tables into an already existing PDF file? > >Sort of like "Redwing" or "ForTE" in REVERSE. > >Or does Redwing or ForTE do this? > >Basically I need a tool that will help us with critical >print deadlines for our big catalog. You can do this with Exchange form tool (on the standard tool bar). Simply use the tool to marquee a drop-in area and choose the "Button" Type. In Options/Layout select Icon only. You can then use any PDF file as an icon image. Read up on "Adding Buttons" in the Exchange Online Help files that came with the program (EXCHANGE.PDF). Hope this helps, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 21:38:32-GMT,3336;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07299 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA26225; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:23:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:22:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26150; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:22:26 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Distilled Photos Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:18:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd94b5$c1f9b1c0$625795c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8825661F.006CFF7E.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Aandi, > > How does your plug in work and how could I obtain a copy? > > thanks > rob > Since this was asked to the list - I'll answer here too - Simple: the plug-in reads a PDF file and converts all colour references and image so there is no RGB data in the file. You can then save it or do whatever you like. More detailed techie stuff: the plug-in modifies all colour spaces, colour references and images as necessary. It converts RGB and Calibrated RGB to CMYK using the same simple algorithm, which performs "maximum undercolour removal", putting as much ink as it can get away with on the black plate. References to colours such as 50-50-50 RGB will be turned instead to 50 grayscale. Lab (device indepenedent colour) is converted by a fixed algorithm which ignores the white point. If an image has to be decompressed, it is recompressed with ZIP to avoid further data loss. RGB, CalRGB and Lab images have to be decompressed. Palette colour images are not decompressed, their palette is updated instead. Separation colour spaces with an RGB alternative colour space are not converted. The ICC profile (proposed) colour space is not converted. Undercolour removal and black generation functions in the file are ignored. Who would want it: well, not people using in-RIP separation, including those asking Crackerjack to separate. Someone who can't get a separation otherwise. There are no fancy controls, but it could dig you out of a hole. It does NOT of itself make separations; you would have to already be set up to do that. The beta period is over, but I haven't decided what to do with the thing. So I might as well extend the period again. Watch this space for details. If anyone has any further questions about the plug-in please DO NOT HIT REPLY. Send mail to me directly at quite@dial.pipex.com. Aandi Inston Quite Software ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 21:38:58-GMT,2212;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07303 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:38:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA26397; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:26:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:25:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26359; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:25:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199806102125.OAA27644@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:26:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug In Question From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >Does anyone out there know of any Acrobat >plug in that allows you to "insert" text, graphics, >or tables into an already existing PDF file? > >Sort of like "Redwing" or "ForTE" in REVERSE. > >Or does Redwing or ForTE do this? > >Basically I need a tool that will help us with critical >print deadlines for our big catalog. Have you tried the Pitstop Plug-in (demo available through Emerge)? This allows you to edit PDF file graphics. For more info: http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/plugexch.html#EnFocus http://www.emerge.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolinfo.html#pitstop Demo version of pitstop: http://www.emerge.pdfzone.com/products/software/register.cgi C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jun-1998 22:59:56-GMT,2339;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09248 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29656; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:38:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:36:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29580; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:36:42 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Page Size Wrong Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:32:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd94c0$22727500$625795c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000301bd94b1$c3e6ffa0$9956c897@dale.querisoft.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > This one seems to have me stumped -- any ideas? > > Creating a PDF of a software user guide (yeah, the screen > shots look nasty > but that's a problem for another day). The document uses an > odd page size -- > 7.48 inches wide by 8.47 inches high. It's created in Word > (97), I'm on an > NT system (V4 with SP3), using Distiller V3.01. I have the > latest Distiller > printer driver installed (V5). > > Here's the deal -- everything (Word, the driver, and > Distiller) all say the > page size is 7.48 x 8.47, but when I open the PDF file it's > 8.5 x 11. Any > ideas on what I'm overlooking?? It sounds like you may be omitting the most (or only) important step - you must select this custom page size in the printer driver. Word will let you select any page size in page setup but when you print, it will go to your regular sized paper (just as well). Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 1:52:49-GMT,2381;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12666 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:52:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03823; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:35:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:33:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03659; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:33:27 -0500 Message-ID: <003c01bd94d8$e68b5660$6b8ad9ce@dale.querisoft.com> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Page Size Wrong Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:33:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi Inston said: > >It sounds like you may be omitting the most (or only) important >step - you must select this custom page size in the printer >driver. Word will let you select any page size in page setup but >when you print, it will go to your regular sized paper (just >as well). > >Aandi Sorry -- I wasn't clear. The printer driver is set up to accommodate the proper custom page size. I'm coming to the conclusion that it's probably a problem with the driver. As you note, Word is happy enough to hand off the data to the driver -- and even if Word was setup improperly, the driver should force the output into the desired size. I did poke around the file -- I thought perhaps I could hack the code to get the page size right. (I did -- but broke something else, after exhausting my very limited knowledge of postscript.) As the postscript comes out of the driver, it looks to be standard 8.5x11. Perhaps I can track down a bug on the Adobe tech support web site. Thanks for the help, Dale ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 2:32:10-GMT,1687;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13436 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:32:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA05084; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:08:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:07:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA05004; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:07:32 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:13:02 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: [PDF] ActiveX-Website permissions Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I'm trying to use PDFviewer (as broswer plugin) with PDF files uploaded to my website to btye-serve. I got an error message..."current security etc prohibit running activeX controls on the page. As a result, the page may not display correctly." When FTPing my files to my webserver, do I require a special or different "Permissions" for "owner/Group/Viewer" than I do with my html files? I'm using Fetch for my FTP upload. Thanks Murray McCombs ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 5:15:40-GMT,1677;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA16548 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:15:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA10353; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:55:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:52:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10242; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:52:54 -0500 X-Sender: bblevins@mail.nilenet.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:52:57 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Brett Blevins Subject: Re: [PDF] Handling bleeds from PD Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you use the Distiller PPD, you can get a full bleed. -Brett >Are there any views on how to handle bleeds in PDF? Some of my contacts seem >to suggest that increasing the page dimension by 3mm and using the crop >command in Exchange is the correct route. I have some doubts about this. >When exporting PostScript from a bled job that has been converted to PDF all >bleed appears to be lost. > >All help welcomed > >Best >Chris Hamiton-Emery ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 8:31:01-GMT,5058;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20717 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:31:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA15033; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:57:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:55:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA14988; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:55:23 -0500 From: g.pitcher@napier.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:45:09 +0100 Message-ID: <0006AA9A.3207@napier.ac.uk> To: jrackerby@seatimes.com (Jayson Rackerby), pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Mac OCR to PDF - does anything exist? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.226155798" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --IMA.Boundary.226155798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Doesn't Acrobat Exchange do this via the Capture plug-in? OmniPage will certainly produce a ps file which can then be distilled into PDF. Personally I'm not too pleased with OP's preserved page layout abilities. Capture's much better. George Pitcher SCOPE/HERON Napier University Edinburgh _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: [PDF] Mac OCR to PDF - does anything exist? From: jrackerby@seatimes.com (Jayson Rackerby) at Internet-Gateway Date: 10/6/98 1:22 pm Howdy all: I'm trying to find a Mac OCR program that can export/save the converted text as a PDF and retain the original's formatting. While we could do something cleaver with LaserWriter 8.5.1 to generate a PDF I'd prefer a solution developed just for that. PageGenie, Capture and TextBridge for Windoze have this functionality, but I've yet to find a Mac product. Any ideas? TIA JJR --IMA.Boundary.226155798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from seatimes.seatimes.com (192.251.219.14) by ccmail.seatimes.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 0004CE77; Wed, 10 Jun 98 13:02:18 -0700 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by seatimes.seatimes.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25877 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22064; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:59:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:58:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22003; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:58:54 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825661F.006D4B15.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:57:44 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Plug In Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --IMA.Boundary.226155798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from central.napier.ac.uk (146.176.2.3) by csumail1.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 0006A681; Wed, 10 Jun 98 21:32:31 +0100 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by central.napier.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA11994 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:31:24 GMT Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23406; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:26:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:26:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23390; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:26:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:22:50 -0700 Message-ID: <0004CEC7.1343@seatimes.com> From: jrackerby@seatimes.com (Jayson Rackerby) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Mac OCR to PDF - does anything exist? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.882015798" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --IMA.Boundary.226155798-- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 8:31:59-GMT,2477;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20769 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:31:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA15508; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 03:12:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 03:11:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA15444; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 03:11:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199806110628.CAA25259@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "J. David Bryan" Organization: Palomar Corporation To: PDF List Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:28:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Re: QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Many thanks to all who offered suggestions regarding my problem. I now have a range of solutions to try, and I'm sure one or more will get us up and running. It's been particularly frustrating because, as I may not have made completely clear, my colleague's running a Mac and QuarkXPress and does *not* have Acrobat (so he can't distill the PS into PDFs directly), and I'm running a PC with Acrobat (and do not own nor have ever used QuarkXpress). Adding to the problems, we're both independent contractors producing a newsletter for a non-profit organization (so I can't control what products he uses or purchases), we live many hours apart, and we share no common high-capacity storage hardware (so FedEx can't help). He has no CD-ROM writer nor QIC tape drive, and I have no Syquest drive (what he uses to bundle files off to the printer's). It's like working in a straitjacket, but your many suggestions will undoubtedly help. Thanks again! -- Dave Bryan dbryan@bcpl.net ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 9:53:18-GMT,2455;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22088 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 03:53:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA17427; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:22:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:20:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA17356; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:20:34 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] ActiveX-Website permissions Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:17:52 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bd951a$0c89fce0$625795c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > I'm trying to use PDFviewer (as broswer plugin) with PDF > files uploaded to > my website to btye-serve. > > I got an error message..."current security etc prohibit > running activeX > controls on the page. As a result, the page may not display > correctly." This message means that a personal setting in your browser switches off ActiveX controls. Stopping ActiveX controls from creeping in off the internet is a good thing, but this also stops ActiveX controls specifically installed to your hard disk. But let's see. It sounds as though you are on a Mac, and therefore using the Netscape plug-in instead, but with Microsoft Explorer. (There is no ActiveX control for the Mac). My guess is that plug-ins are classed the same. > > When FTPing my files to my webserver, do I require a special > or different > "Permissions" for "owner/Group/Viewer" than I do with my html files? Nothing to do with the file itself. Check this by tring to view other PDF files on the web. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 11:49:41-GMT,2421;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24057 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 05:49:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA20920; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:30:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:27:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20794; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:27:28 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:32:59 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: [PDF] ActiveX-Website permissions Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Aandi, First I'd like to thank you for all the suggestions and troubleshooting you've been doing on this list. Really appreciated! > But let's see. It sounds as though you are on a Mac, and therefore > using the Netscape plug-in instead, but with Microsoft Explorer. > (There is no ActiveX control for the Mac). > My guess is that plug-ins are classed the same. Yes, I didn't make this perfectly clear. The PDF was created on a Mac, and uploaded from the same. The test computer was on an IBM for On-line PDF byte-serving. This is when I recieved the error message. Hence the ActiveX. Both the Mac and IBM are using Netscape 3.01. I'm not that profcient with IBM's, but I'd like to know if there is a key command to active a download of the PDF link (from website), if this "ActiveX" error message comes up. It would be a workaround for a large PDF (2.5 MB) I'm trying to get to a friend using an IBM (who isn't aware of key command). On the Mac I use "Option-Click" and the save file dialogue pops up, then downloads to my hard-drive. In the mean time, I'll pass along the "browser switches off" for ActiveX and see if the PDF will download directly Thanks again Murray McCombs ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 12:10:18-GMT,2296;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24427 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:10:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA21745; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:56:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:55:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21697; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:55:20 -0500 Message-ID: <357FC62D.D809762E@empa.ch> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:57:45 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Handling bleeds from PDF References: <000101bd947a$d0c479a0$72946f83@ChrisHamilton.cup.cam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In my tests I found that bleeds are transported into the PDF file. I think your settings to create the PS file are wrong. Or your PS is an EPS, which does cut bleeds off. Erwin Christopher Hamilton-Emery wrote: > Are there any views on how to handle bleeds in PDF? Some of my contacts seem > to suggest that increasing the page dimension by 3mm and using the crop > command in Exchange is the correct route. I have some doubts about this. > When exporting PostScript from a bled job that has been converted to PDF all > bleed appears to be lost. > > All help welcomed > > Best > > Chris Hamiton-Emery > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 12:37:27-GMT,3058;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24885 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:37:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA22559; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:17:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:16:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22483; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:16:24 -0500 Message-ID: <357FCB16.7DBAAB91@empa.ch> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:18:44 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Distilled Photos References: <8825661F.005B520C.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 To my knowledge there are three ways of doing such a job: 1. Using a RIP with the capability to transform RGB into CMYK. 2. Placing the PDF into Pagemaker 6.5 and doing Color Management. 3. Having a Helios Server with PDF Handshake and Color Management functionalities. But I think it wasn't possible to do one of these three ways a year ago. And with the 72 dpi no decent image quality would be achieved. Maybe that PDF was used for something else. Erwin Robert Lira wrote: > I have a question about Distiller. > > I am trying to figure this out and how it works. > > We are distilling some pages that have 4 color in it. > Problem with this old program that we use is that it > doesn't "accept" CMYK TIFF files. For workaround, > the guy that put the files together last year placed > RGB EPS files and distilled those. > > My question is, how did the printers ever produce > the color work for it if the files were distilled and > PDF'ed with RGB photos? > > To my knowledge, no film was sent and this was > a straight PDF job. > > I am trying to figure out how this former employee > put this together and I am left scratching my head. > > The EPS files when opened individually are 72dpi. > > Is this possible or am I missing something? > > And more importantly, how did the printers work > this out? > > Let me know if anyone can help! > > Thanks > > regards, > rob > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 12:39:20-GMT,1906;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24893 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:39:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA22759; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:21:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:20:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22709; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:20:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 05:19:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick West To: PDF List Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? In-Reply-To: <199806110628.CAA25259@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, J. David Bryan wrote: > > and I have no Syquest drive (what he uses to > bundle files off to the printer's). Invest in a used syquest drive. You can pick one up for $60 to $70.00 With one cartridge formated so your pc can read it. Then just have him save files with 8.3 names. I used a syquest drive for years on my pc. Syquest has drivers for Dos, win 3.1, win95 winNT, OS/2, MAC, and so on. Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 12:40:47-GMT,2500;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24913 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:40:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA23067; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:27:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:26:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22965; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:26:39 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] ActiveX-Website permissions Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:23:41 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd9534$1567bcc0$335895c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I'm not that profcient with IBM's, but I'd like to know if > there is a key > command to active a download of the PDF link (from website), if this > "ActiveX" error message comes up. It would be a workaround > for a large PDF > (2.5 MB) I'm trying to get to a friend using an IBM (who > isn't aware of key > command). On the Mac I use "Option-Click" and the save file > dialogue pops > up, then downloads to my hard-drive. Yes, on Windows, with most browsers, you right click on the link and a pop-up menu appears. Choose "Save" - perhaps "Save target as...". In IE4 this is the only form of Save that works. These instructions may need clarification, if the user reports "nothing happens when I right click". 1. You must click the right mouse button on the screen containing the link to the PDF file - an HTML page - not on the PDF file itself. 2. You must position the mouse pointer directly over the link, as if you were going to follow it. So, where you would left click to view, you right click to follow the link. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 13:34:55-GMT,2456;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25919 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:34:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA25276; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:14:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:13:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25206; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:13:38 -0500 Message-ID: <357FD7D7.790B1009@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:12:55 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? References: <199806110628.CAA25259@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 J. David Bryan wrote: > > It's been particularly frustrating because, as I may not have made > completely clear, my colleague's running a Mac and QuarkXPress and does > *not* have Acrobat (so he can't distill the PS into PDFs directly), and I'm > running a PC with Acrobat (and do not own nor have ever used QuarkXpress). > Adding to the problems, [...] > > It's like working in a straitjacket, but your many suggestions will > undoubtedly help. Thanks again! Sheesh, that's not much to work with. You may wish you had a real straitjacket once this project gets underway. Something's got to give. Unless you want to ship these monstrous PostScript files around over your modems, somebody is either going to have to 1) learn something, 2) buy something, or both. It's as simple as that. If money is tight, you might look at Ghostscript (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html) to convert PostScript files to PDF for shipment. This software is free, and I have no doubt it is as fully functional as the Distiller for what you need to do. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 13:43:32-GMT,2185;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26080 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:43:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA25741; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:24:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:23:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25645; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:23:45 -0500 Message-Id: <9806118975.AA897571410@ccmsmtp.bender.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 98 09:15:03 -0500 From: "Michael J. Walberg" To: Subject: [PDF] Programatically concatenating PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm looking for a way to programatically concatenate PDF files. For example, I have a group of 100 pdf files I want to concatenate into 10 groups of 10. I have another group of 27 pdf files. I want to concatenate these files into groups of the first 3 files, the next 9 files, the next 7 files, and the last 8 files. Can I programatically concatenate the two different groups the way I have them broken down? We have hundredes of different groups of PDF files and each group needs to be broken down differently. It would be great if we could use some type of text files to programatically dictate how the pdf files should be concatenated. We want to avoid manually concatenating PDF files. Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you! ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 13:55:19-GMT,2616;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26306 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:55:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26590; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:40:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:40:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26495; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:40:03 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Programatically concatenating PDF files Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:39:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bd953e$55446aa0$335895c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <9806118975.AA897571410@ccmsmtp.bender.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I'm looking for a way to programatically concatenate PDF files. > > For example, I have a group of 100 pdf files I want to > concatenate > into 10 groups of 10. I have another group of 27 pdf > files. I want > to concatenate these files into groups of the first 3 > files, the next > 9 files, the next 7 files, and the last 8 files. > > Can I programatically concatenate the two different > groups the way I > have them broken down? We have hundredes of different > groups of PDF > files and each group needs to be broken down > differently. It would be > great if we could use some type of text files to programatically > dictate how the pdf files should be concatenated. We > want to avoid > manually concatenating PDF files. > > Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you! > I believe this is just the sort of job for which AppendPDF was invented. It's a heavyweight solution for server architectures (Unix and NT), suitable for use in dynamic assembly on web sites (I understand). See www.digapp.com. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 13:59:52-GMT,1817;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26394 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:59:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26480; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:39:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:38:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26428; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:38:20 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:12:55 EDT." <357FD7D7.790B1009@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:38:02 +0100 Message-ID: <11998.897572282@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:12:55 EDT, "Cory Snavely" wrote: > If money is tight, you might look at Ghostscript > (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html) to convert PostScript files to PDF > for shipment. This software is free, and I have no doubt it is as fully > functional as the Distiller for what you need to do. GhostScript is great... but it is severely limited as a Distiller replacement because it converts fonts other than Times, Helvetica and Courier (may Symbol and Zapf Dingbats too, I forget) into Type 3 bitmaps in the PDF. Chris ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 15:15:44-GMT,2037;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28089 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:15:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA30402; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:52:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:52:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30350; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:52:07 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 11 Jun 98 07:51 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <11998.897572282@isode.com> (message from Chris Ridd on Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:38:02 +0100) Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > GhostScript is great... but it is severely limited as a Distiller > replacement because it converts fonts other than Times, Helvetica and > Courier (may Symbol and Zapf Dingbats too, I forget) into Type 3 > bitmaps in the PDF. Yes, if you want output with searchable text, Ghostscript is not the way to go. If you just want something viewable and printable, however, Ghostscript does pretty well: it uses 720 dpi bitmaps, and the files it produces seem to be comparable in size to the ones produced by Acrobat Distiller. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 15:22:03-GMT,2433;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28221 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:22:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA30650; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:56:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:56:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30578; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:56:01 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 11 Jun 98 07:51 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <11998.897572282@isode.com> (message from Chris Ridd on Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:38:02 +0100) Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > GhostScript is great... but it is severely limited as a Distiller > replacement because it converts fonts other than Times, Helvetica and > Courier (may Symbol and Zapf Dingbats too, I forget) into Type 3 > bitmaps in the PDF. Yes, if you want output with searchable text, Ghostscript is not the way to go. If you just want something viewable and printable, however, Ghostscript does pretty well: it uses 720 dpi bitmaps, and the files it produces seem to be comparable in size to the ones produced by Acrobat Distiller. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 16:11:26-GMT,2275;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29344 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:11:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00565; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:50:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:47:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00436; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:47:55 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 11 Jun 98 08:47 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <12260.897577140@isode.com> (message from Chris Ridd on Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:59:00 +0100) Subject: Re: Ghostscript PDF text output (was: [PDF] Re: QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling?) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> Yes, if you want output with searchable text, Ghostscript is not the way to >> go. If you just want something viewable and printable, however, Ghostscript >> does pretty well: it uses 720 dpi bitmaps, and the files it produces seem to >>be comparable in size to the ones produced by Acrobat Distiller. > > The Type 3 fonts make PDFs display incredibly slowly in Acrobat Reader. Yes, it is unfortunate that Acrobat Reader's display of Type 3 bitmap fonts is both slower and of lower visual quality than Ghostscript's. > Is GS going to overcome this problem at any point? Producing reasonable text in PDF files is on the "must do" list for Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0. I'll solicit additional beta testers here (if I remember). -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 16:11:41-GMT,2671;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29356 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:11:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00738; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:53:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:51:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00595; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:51:18 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 11 Jun 98 08:47 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <12260.897577140@isode.com> (message from Chris Ridd on Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:59:00 +0100) Subject: Re: Ghostscript PDF text output (was: [PDF] Re: QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling?) X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> Yes, if you want output with searchable text, Ghostscript is not the way to >> go. If you just want something viewable and printable, however, Ghostscript >> does pretty well: it uses 720 dpi bitmaps, and the files it produces seem to >>be comparable in size to the ones produced by Acrobat Distiller. > > The Type 3 fonts make PDFs display incredibly slowly in Acrobat Reader. Yes, it is unfortunate that Acrobat Reader's display of Type 3 bitmap fonts is both slower and of lower visual quality than Ghostscript's. > Is GS going to overcome this problem at any point? Producing reasonable text in PDF files is on the "must do" list for Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0. I'll solicit additional beta testers here (if I remember). -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 15:08:58-GMT,1401;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27930 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:08:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA29301; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:35:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:33:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29172; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:33:18 -0500 From: Sergio_Guevara@Mitel.COM X-Lotus-FromDomain: MITEL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256620.004F72BE.00@kanmta01.software.mitel.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:36:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Page Size Wrong Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Sergio Guevara@MITEL on 06/11/98 10:36 AM Dale: Please let me know if you find a solution to your problem. I am having similar problems. Best, Sergio : ) sergio_guevara@mitel.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 15:22:26-GMT,2788;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28236 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:22:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA30340; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:52:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:47:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30037; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:47:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Programatically concatenating PDF files Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:50:54 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Michael, You might try the PDFWorkshop demo from www.roundtable.com.au . It allows you to merge a group of selected files along with many other features. Best, Robin -----Original Message----- From: Michael J. Walberg [SMTP:michael.j.walberg@bender.com] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 1998 9:15 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Programatically concatenating PDF files I'm looking for a way to programatically concatenate PDF files. For example, I have a group of 100 pdf files I want to concatenate into 10 groups of 10. I have another group of 27 pdf files. I want to concatenate these files into groups of the first 3 files, the next 9 files, the next 7 files, and the last 8 files. Can I programatically concatenate the two different groups the way I have them broken down? We have hundredes of different groups of PDF files and each group needs to be broken down differently. It would be great if we could use some type of text files to programatically dictate how the pdf files should be concatenated. We want to avoid manually concatenating PDF files. Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you! ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 15:44:34-GMT,1300;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28750 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:44:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA32086; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:23:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:22:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32019; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:22:17 -0500 Message-ID: <357FF589.747E00C6@interaccess.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:19:38 -0500 From: Barbara Harrington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] blank pdf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 When opening a pc pdf on a mac the page is blank. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 16:11:36-GMT,3133;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29352 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:11:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00287; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:44:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:40:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00074; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:39:59 -0500 From: bmarsh@seps.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SEPL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: michael.j.walberg@bender.com Message-ID: <88256620.0055BE6E.00@Notesvr.seps.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:51:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Programatically concatenating PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I'm looking for a way to programatically concatenate PDF files. Michael, I used MS Access (the list of files I wanted to concatenate were in a database). Here are some code snippets for the critical parts: .... Dim AcroPDDocTemp As Object Dim AcroPDDocAppend As Object .... ' 'create PDDoc objects Set AcroPDDocAppend = CreateObject("AcroExch.PDDoc") Set AcroPDDocTemp = CreateObject("AcroExch.PDDoc") ' ' Open the first file retv = AcroPDDocAppend.Create ' open a new output file If retv = 0 Then GoTo acroerr ' ' For all the source files ... Do ' open this file to append it to the new one retv = AcroPDDocTemp.Open(strCurPDFDir & rs!FileName) If retv = 0 Then GoTo acroerr ' ' get number of pages in input and output files numpagesappend = AcroPDDocAppend.getnumpages numpagestemp = AcroPDDocTemp.getnumpages ' ' insert pages from input into output retv = AcroPDDocAppend.insertpages(numpagesappend - 1, AcroPDDocTemp, 0, numpagestemp, False) If retv = 0 Then GoTo acroerr ' ' close input file retv = AcroPDDocTemp.Close rs.MoveNext ' go to the next input file If rs.EOF Then ' save and close the current output file retv = AcroPDDocAppend.Save(1, strNewFilename) If retv = 0 Then unretv = MsgBox("Could not save file.", 48, "append pdf chunks") Exit Sub End If retv = AcroPDDocAppend.Close If retv = 0 Then unretv = MsgBox("Could not close file.", 48, "append pdf chunks") Exit Sub End If Exit Do End If Loop ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 16:21:50-GMT,2013;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29550 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:21:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA30847; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:00:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:59:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30791; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:59:09 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:51:00 PDT." Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:59:00 +0100 Message-ID: <12260.897577140@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:51:00 PDT, "L. Peter Deutsch" wrote: > > > GhostScript is great... but it is severely limited as a Distiller > > replacement because it converts fonts other than Times, Helvetica and > > Courier (may Symbol and Zapf Dingbats too, I forget) into Type 3 > > bitmaps in the PDF. > > Yes, if you want output with searchable text, Ghostscript is not the way to > go. If you just want something viewable and printable, however, Ghostscript > does pretty well: it uses 720 dpi bitmaps, and the files it produces seem to > be comparable in size to the ones produced by Acrobat Distiller. The Type 3 fonts make PDFs display incredibly slowly in Acrobat Reader. Is GS going to overcome this problem at any point? Chris ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 16:34:12-GMT,3945;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29790 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01637; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:10:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:10:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01557; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:10:02 -0500 Message-ID: <9E0414A6DE73D111900700805FEAF98A31E826@smsisb04.dms.state.fl.us> From: "Warnke, Kevin" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Programatically concatenating PDF files Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:07:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just joined the list today and happened to come across this message... basically something very similar to what I need. Is there any way I could get a copy of the mdb file you are using to append the pdf files? I'm really interested in seeing how it works. Thanks Kevin -----Original Message----- From: bmarsh@seps.com [mailto:bmarsh@seps.com] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 1998 11:52 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: michael.j.walberg@bender.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Programatically concatenating PDF files >I'm looking for a way to programatically concatenate PDF files. Michael, I used MS Access (the list of files I wanted to concatenate were in a database). Here are some code snippets for the critical parts: .... Dim AcroPDDocTemp As Object Dim AcroPDDocAppend As Object .... ' 'create PDDoc objects Set AcroPDDocAppend = CreateObject("AcroExch.PDDoc") Set AcroPDDocTemp = CreateObject("AcroExch.PDDoc") ' ' Open the first file retv = AcroPDDocAppend.Create ' open a new output file If retv = 0 Then GoTo acroerr ' ' For all the source files ... Do ' open this file to append it to the new one retv = AcroPDDocTemp.Open(strCurPDFDir & rs!FileName) If retv = 0 Then GoTo acroerr ' ' get number of pages in input and output files numpagesappend = AcroPDDocAppend.getnumpages numpagestemp = AcroPDDocTemp.getnumpages ' ' insert pages from input into output retv = AcroPDDocAppend.insertpages(numpagesappend - 1, AcroPDDocTemp, 0, numpagestemp, False) If retv = 0 Then GoTo acroerr ' ' close input file retv = AcroPDDocTemp.Close rs.MoveNext ' go to the next input file If rs.EOF Then ' save and close the current output file retv = AcroPDDocAppend.Save(1, strNewFilename) If retv = 0 Then unretv = MsgBox("Could not save file.", 48, "append pdf chunks") Exit Sub End If retv = AcroPDDocAppend.Close If retv = 0 Then unretv = MsgBox("Could not close file.", 48, "append pdf chunks") Exit Sub End If Exit Do End If Loop ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 16:40:51-GMT,1708;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29902 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:40:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02188; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:22:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:19:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02045; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:19:44 -0500 Message-ID: <9E0414A6DE73D111900700805FEAF98A31E828@smsisb04.dms.state.fl.us> From: "Warnke, Kevin" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Appending PDFs Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:17:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Here are two options that I'm looking at to achieve my goal: 1. IN Windows: be able to append 3 pdf files, one of which is password protected and the user appending the pdfs does not know the password (however the code itself could have the password hardcoded). --or-- 2. IN Unix: be able to append 3 pdf files into one pdf file. Any ideas? Can #1 be done by writing a program in VB or Access? Any suggestions would be wonderful. Kevin ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 16:51:47-GMT,3928;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00169 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:51:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02923; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:35:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:34:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02829; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:34:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:30:48 -0500 Message-ID: <0018A553.001943@AICI.COM> From: Ryan_Watts@AICI.COM (Ryan Watts) Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Programatically concatenating PDF files To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is off the subject off this posting but..... What other methods af acrobat can you access this way? Can you control security? Is there a list of methods available anywhere that i can look at? Thanks for any more info. Ryan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [PDF] Programatically concatenating PDF files Author: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com at SMTP Date: 6/11/98 8:51 AM >I'm looking for a way to programatically concatenate PDF files. Michael, I used MS Access (the list of files I wanted to concatenate were in a database). Here are some code snippets for the critical parts: .... Dim AcroPDDocTemp As Object Dim AcroPDDocAppend As Object .... ' 'create PDDoc objects Set AcroPDDocAppend = CreateObject("AcroExch.PDDoc") Set AcroPDDocTemp = CreateObject("AcroExch.PDDoc") ' ' Open the first file retv = AcroPDDocAppend.Create ' open a new output file If retv = 0 Then GoTo acroerr ' ' For all the source files ... Do ' open this file to append it to the new one retv = AcroPDDocTemp.Open(strCurPDFDir & rs!FileName) If retv = 0 Then GoTo acroerr ' ' get number of pages in input and output files numpagesappend = AcroPDDocAppend.getnumpages numpagestemp = AcroPDDocTemp.getnumpages ' ' insert pages from input into output retv = AcroPDDocAppend.insertpages(numpagesappend - 1, AcroPDDocTemp, 0, numpagestemp, False) If retv = 0 Then GoTo acroerr ' ' close input file retv = AcroPDDocTemp.Close rs.MoveNext ' go to the next input file If rs.EOF Then ' save and close the current output file retv = AcroPDDocAppend.Save(1, strNewFilename) If retv = 0 Then unretv = MsgBox("Could not save file.", 48, "append pdf chunks") Exit Sub End If retv = AcroPDDocAppend.Close If retv = 0 Then unretv = MsgBox("Could not close file.", 48, "append pdf chunks") Exit Sub End If Exit Do End If Loop ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 17:07:07-GMT,1640;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00517 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:07:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03466; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:47:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:44:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03306; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:44:42 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] blank pdf Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:42:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bd9558$1adb9220$335895c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <357FF589.747E00C6@interaccess.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > > When opening a pc pdf on a mac the page is blank. > Oh no it isn't! (Oh yes it is!) In other words, you will need to give a lot more details, because this is not a well-known problem. Aandi ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 17:12:56-GMT,1413;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00672 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:12:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA04059; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:00:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:59:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03950; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:59:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199806111658.MAA21389@pablo.total.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] blank pdf Date: Thu, 11 Jun 98 12:59:50 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Edward Chiu To: "PDF" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >When opening a pc pdf on a mac the page is blank. Are you sure the pc pdf was distilled properly? Is the page setup set up properly? Is the pc pdf read fine in pc platform? < ed > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 18:54:56-GMT,1612;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02925 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:54:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA07972; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:33:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:30:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07861; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:30:46 -0500 From: bmarsh@seps.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SEPL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256620.00667A69.00@Notesvr.seps.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:42:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PDF] Programatically concatenating PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >What other methods af acrobat can you access this way? Can you control > security? Is there a list of methods available anywhere that i can > look at? Adobe has a FAQ for developers that tells you where to find a complete description of the object models in the SDK. Check the section on Using Visual Basic in http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk/DOCS/devfaq.pdf ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 19:38:31-GMT,2257;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03963 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:38:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA10072; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:22:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:20:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09967; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:20:37 -0500 Message-ID: <35802DFF.5F0E27D4@ippu.purdue.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:20:31 -0500 From: "Barbara J. Doremire" Organization: Purdue Programs for Study Abroad X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Blury text Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm a newbie at PDF. I hope the solution to my problem is therefore EASY. The problem is that the text in the final documents is very blury. I am working on a PC. I am: scanning in 8.5" x11" documents as .eps at 300 dpi placing them in Pagemaker 6.0? printing to postscript dragging and dropping them into distiller to be processed for use on the web I have viewed other PDF documents on the web and the greater the magnification the clearer the text. It is the opposite with my documents. I don't know what settings to change. I have looked at the online guides in the help menu and so far, they haven't solved my problem. Thank you in advance for any suggestions! -- Barbara J. Doremire, Publications Coordinator Programs for Study Abroad, Purdue University Young Graduate House, Rm 120; West Lafayette, IN 47906-6207 URL: http:www.ippu.purdue.edu/sa - E-mail: bjd@ippu.purdue.edu Fax: 765/496-1989 - Phone: 765/494-5772 ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 20:43:38-GMT,2669;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05388 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:43:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA13332; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:28:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:27:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13258; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:27:42 -0500 Message-ID: <35803E44.28539463@pre-print.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:30:08 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Blury text References: <35802DFF.5F0E27D4@ippu.purdue.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Good afternoon Barabara. The problem is not with your PDF. It is with the image you are committing to PDF. When you scan text at 300 dpi, it is a rastered (bitmap) image. When you use text in a PostScript or PDF environment, you are using a specialized vector image. Vectors, for the most part, maintain resolution, and in the case of text, curvature, corners, etc. as you zoom in, and the appearance is of better quality. Bitmaps, well, are chunky. They are also big. A scanned image, even at 300 dpi, will take up more space than an "equivalent amount" of keyboard entered text. If you increase the resolution, you make bigger files, with the gain of a small amount of resolution quality. The only advantage to the workflow you have outlined is that it may be faster to scan, place and ouput pages, than it is to retype them. Your alternative is Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software, which will take a bit of time as well, because affordable OCR software will always (yes, always is a relative term, but so is character recognition) require a human eye to verify correct characters. -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jun-1998 20:44:06-GMT,2677;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05398 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:44:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12973; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:21:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:19:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12863; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:19:37 -0500 X-Sender: ipblythe@aix.pacwan.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ian Blythe Subject: re: [PDF] Page Size Wrong Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:31:51 +0100 Message-ID: <1314518185-7656287@pacwan.fr> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: "Dale Gardner" Subject: re: [PDF] Page Size Wrong >Here's the deal -- everything (Word, the driver, and Distiller) all say the >page size is 7.48 x 8.47, but when I open the PDF file it's 8.5 x 11. Any >ideas on what I'm overlooking?? >Appreciate any ideas. I too have come across this. The solution I found was to use a different printer driver, one that allows custom page sizes to be used. I think I eventually used one of the linotype PPDs as this gave the capability to set the paper size and use color/colour. Use a text editor to browse some of the printer PPDs and you will see what it can do for you. Most standard printer drives will only allow the default paper size to be used. I worked on a WinTel machine, but I imagine that the same can be done on Macs. And yes I DID get my custom page size in the PDF from the distilled PS. Hope this helps. Best regards from World Cup France 98 (that's soccer folks!) Ian Blythe -- consultant, technical writer, DTP, training words are but mine own, I speaketh not for another ipblythe@aix.pacwan.net BSc ARCS Member: IEEE, Internet Society best regards, Ian -- consultant, technical writer, DTP, training words are but mine own, I speaketh not for another ipblythe@aix.pacwan.net BSc ARCS Member: IEEE, Internet Society http://monoweb.pacwan.net/monoweb/ipblythe/ ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 15:33:13-GMT,1483;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29950 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 09:33:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17607; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:14:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:05:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17147; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:05:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3580FE39.D6675AD0@interaccess.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:08:58 +0000 From: Christine Longo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] blank pdf References: <000b01bd9558$1adb9220$335895c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This problem occurs after the file has been copied to my desktop. If the file is opened from the zip disk it reads properly. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 15:36:27-GMT,1643;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29990 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 09:36:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17608; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:14:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:09:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17329; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:09:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3580FF4F.A5BB0C4B@interaccess.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:13:36 +0000 From: Christine Longo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] blank pdf References: <199806111658.MAA21389@pablo.total.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I believe the files are set up correctly, there were 2 other files we received previously from the same customer that were fine. I've tried to open the file on 2 other macs and also a pc and the same results occurred. If you open the file from the zip disk it reads and processes fine. ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 17:04:18-GMT,1863;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01866 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:04:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21616; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:44:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:40:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21396; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:40:57 -0500 X-Sender: quartet@pop.wanadoo.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.3 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:44:12 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: quartet@wanadoo.fr (Eric Wannin) Subject: [PDF] Bad colors Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, Is anybody know why some colors are modified into gray levels when a PostScript file is created by the LaserWriter 8 printer driver on Mac OS ? How can I obtain a clean PDF file if the PostScript file is not OK before using the Distiller ? Thank you ================================================== Eric Wannin - Sales & Marketing Manager Quartet Systems Saint Veran 84220 Goult France Tel : 04 90 72 48 48 - Tel Intl : 33 4 90 72 48 48 Fax : 04 90 72 42 80 - Fax Intl : 33 4 90 72 42 80 E.mail : quartet@wanadoo.fr WEB : finishing construction, coming very soon. ================================================== ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 17:06:54-GMT,2886;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01955 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:06:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22172; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:52:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:50:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21957; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:50:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:48:55 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] 6.12.98 PDFzone *EXTRA* - Acrobat PDF Newsweekly Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ============================================================= V.03, N.16 ***PDFzone EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra61298.html ============================================================= The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + Dribbling for Dollars - Fortune Tracks a Leaping Legend * PDF graphic illustrates Michael Jordan's financial impact + Come & Get It - Adobe Adds More Goodies to its E-Shelves * Ifilter returns, import filters, Euro fonts, 'palm press' + New book Presents Multi-dimensional View of Portable Docs * "Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF" now available in English + Assorted PDFs Help Get Couples to Church on Time * planning checklists, virtual wedding albums, songs, maps, etc. + Plug in to a New PDF Resource on Acrobat Plug-ins * Electronic Publishing issues first Buyers' Guide + Toy Terrorists Wreak Havoc on Barbie, GI Joe * "Home Surgery Kit" instructions available in PDF + Recent Reader Feedback * User enjoys PDFzone zine, Web site; seeks training info ... and more. Recent issues available at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Comprehensive archive available at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extraarchive.html Subscribe to the email version at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html rgds~Kurt ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 17:55:52-GMT,2574;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03021 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:55:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24503; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:39:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:36:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24320; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:36:42 -0500 Message-ID: <91ED68619458D11187070060672C22D601E1B8@lsm.netin.com> From: Fred Salassi To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad colors Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:39:31 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It may be if printing through the ppd for a monochrome device some of the tiff images are converted to grayscale. Try printing through a color devices ppd then distilling. Freddie > -----Original Message----- > From: quartet@wanadoo.fr [mailto:quartet@wanadoo.fr] > Sent: Friday, June 12, 1998 10:44 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Bad colors > > > > > > Is anybody know why some colors are modified into gray levels when a > PostScript file is created by the LaserWriter 8 printer > driver on Mac OS ? > > How can I obtain a clean PDF file if the PostScript file is > not OK before > using the Distiller ? > > Thank you > > > ================================================== > Eric Wannin - Sales & Marketing Manager > Quartet Systems > Saint Veran > 84220 Goult > France > Tel : 04 90 72 48 48 - Tel Intl : 33 4 90 72 48 48 > Fax : 04 90 72 42 80 - Fax Intl : 33 4 90 72 42 80 > E.mail : quartet@wanadoo.fr > WEB : finishing construction, coming very soon. > ================================================== > > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 18:01:21-GMT,3299;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03138 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:01:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24966; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:46:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:44:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24785; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:43:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199806121743.MAA24781@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Programatically concatenating PDF files Date: Fri, 12 Jun 98 13:43:53 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 [Michael J. Walberg wrote on 6/11/98 10:15 AM] > I'm looking for a way to programatically concatenate PDF files. > > For example, I have a group of 100 pdf files I want to concatenate > into 10 groups of 10. I have another group of 27 pdf files. I want > to concatenate these files into groups of the first 3 files, the next > 9 files, the next 7 files, and the last 8 files. > > Can I programatically concatenate the two different groups the way I > have them broken down? We have hundredes of different groups of PDF > files and each group needs to be broken down differently. It would be > great if we could use some type of text files to programatically > dictate how the pdf files should be concatenated. We want to avoid > manually concatenating PDF files. > > Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you! [Aandi Inston wrote on 6/11/98 9:39 AM] >I believe this is just the sort of job for which AppendPDF was >invented. It's a heavyweight solution for server architectures (Unix >and NT), suitable for use in dynamic assembly on web sites (I >understand). See www.digapp.com. > >Aandi Michael, Aandi is quite correct; AppendPDF is a stand-alone application that was written specifically for this type of task. AppendPDF can concatenate PDF files and/or page ranges within PDF files using a text parameter file. The parameter file uses a simple, flexible format and is typically built using shell scripts or database triggers. AppendPDF is currently available for Solaris, AIX, Digital Unix and Windows NT. The complete documentation for AppendPDF is available on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. p.s. Digital Applications has a booth in the Adobe developers area at PC Expo. I will be at the booth on Tuesday if anyone wants to stop by and say hello. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 18:10:39-GMT,1827;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03380 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:10:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25507; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:55:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:53:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25314; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:53:12 -0500 Message-ID: <35816BA9.74B2282F@aegisgroup.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:56:00 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] blank pdf References: <357FF589.747E00C6@interaccess.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Pdf's are cross platform-you got something wrong. Specify how you made the pdf Barbara Harrington wrote: > When opening a pc pdf on a mac the page is blank. > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 18:10:58-GMT,3210;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03395 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:10:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25627; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:57:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:55:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25516; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:55:35 -0500 Message-ID: <35816C61.FC879179@aegisgroup.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:59:03 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Page Size Wrong References: <1314518185-7656287@pacwan.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I use the Distiller 3.0 PPD with everything going to ps->pdf Ian Blythe wrote: > From: "Dale Gardner" > Subject: re: [PDF] Page Size Wrong > > >Here's the deal -- everything (Word, the driver, and Distiller) all say the > >page size is 7.48 x 8.47, but when I open the PDF file it's 8.5 x 11. Any > >ideas on what I'm overlooking?? > >Appreciate any ideas. > > I too have come across this. The solution I found was to use a different > printer driver, one that allows custom page sizes to be used. > > I think I eventually used one of the linotype PPDs as this gave the > capability to set the paper size and use color/colour. Use a text editor > to browse some of the printer PPDs and you will see what it can do for you. > > Most standard printer drives will only allow the default paper size to be used. > > I worked on a WinTel machine, but I imagine that the same can be done on Macs. > > And yes I DID get my custom page size in the PDF from the distilled PS. > Hope this helps. > > Best regards from World Cup France 98 (that's soccer folks!) > Ian Blythe > -- > consultant, technical writer, DTP, training > words are but mine own, I speaketh not for another > ipblythe@aix.pacwan.net BSc ARCS Member: IEEE, Internet Society > best regards, > Ian > -- > consultant, technical writer, DTP, training > words are but mine own, I speaketh not for another > ipblythe@aix.pacwan.net BSc ARCS Member: IEEE, Internet Society > http://monoweb.pacwan.net/monoweb/ipblythe/ > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 18:20:31-GMT,1875;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03679 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:20:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26227; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:08:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:05:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26109; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:05:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199806121805.LAA02711@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:05:13 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] blank pdf Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <35816BA9.74B2282F@aegisgroup.com> References: <357FF589.747E00C6@interaccess.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Usually the problem is usually caused by using some type of "copy" that attempts to be "smart" by converting CR-LF pairs and LF to CR for the Mac. ALWAYS do cross-platform copy and/or move operations as "binary" instead of "text" or else you will likely be "screwed!" - Dov At 6/12/98 10:56 AM , Dan Dilamarter wrote: > >Pdf's are cross platform-you got something wrong. Specify how you made >the pdf > >Barbara Harrington wrote: > >> When opening a pc pdf on a mac the page is blank. >> ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 18:26:52-GMT,2271;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03825 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:26:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26427; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:12:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:10:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26279; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:10:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199806121805.LAA02711@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:05:13 -0700 Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] blank pdf Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <35816BA9.74B2282F@aegisgroup.com> References: <357FF589.747E00C6@interaccess.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Usually the problem is usually caused by using some type of "copy" that attempts to be "smart" by converting CR-LF pairs and LF to CR for the Mac. ALWAYS do cross-platform copy and/or move operations as "binary" instead of "text" or else you will likely be "screwed!" - Dov At 6/12/98 10:56 AM , Dan Dilamarter wrote: > >Pdf's are cross platform-you got something wrong. Specify how you made >the pdf > >Barbara Harrington wrote: > >> When opening a pc pdf on a mac the page is blank. >> ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 20:00:54-GMT,2091;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05667 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:00:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30876; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:41:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:38:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30748; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:38:09 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01bd9639$8bed2a00$9956c897@dale.querisoft.com> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Page Size Wrong Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:37:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dan Dilamarter said: > >I use the Distiller 3.0 PPD with everything going to ps->pdf > Thanks -- to you and the others on the list -- who responded to the request for help. At least a couple of people indicated they are experiencing similar results so I thought I'd post an update. Spoke with Adobe tech support earlier today on the issue -- they indicate that the Distiller 3.0 PPD "should" work properly with my system as configured. They had a minor suggestion or two to try just to verify the proper setup of the system. Those don't seem to have had an impact, so it looks like it's off to Level 2 support. I'll pass along any fixes or explanations which result. Dale Gardner ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 20:01:08-GMT,1359;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05671 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:01:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31025; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:44:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:42:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30918; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:42:25 -0500 Message-ID: <002501bd9631$e46c2b20$a649accf@mcglinn> From: "Kathy McGlinn" To: Subject: [PDF] Saving PDF Files Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:42:14 -0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 When you are viewing a pdf on the Internet. How do you save it to your hard drive? Thanks ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 20:42:08-GMT,2875;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06577 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:42:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32506; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:16:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:14:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32422; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:14:25 -0500 Message-ID: <35818CF2.BFED022A@aegisgroup.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:18:04 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad colors References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Don't use the laserwriter printer driver--use the Distiller 3.0 PPD. I had the same problem before I realized that Distiller has its own PPD. As to the second part of your question, you can't make a pdf from corrupt postscript. In fact, making a pdf is a great way to check the quality of your postscript files, as it is quite particular about bad code. If you have a corrupt file, go back to Quark (or whatever ) and fix it-find the bad image or whatever the source of the corruption, and make fresh postscript. Eric Wannin wrote: > Hello, > > Is anybody know why some colors are modified into gray levels when a > PostScript file is created by the LaserWriter 8 printer driver on Mac OS ? > > How can I obtain a clean PDF file if the PostScript file is not OK before > using the Distiller ? > > Thank you > > ================================================== > Eric Wannin - Sales & Marketing Manager > Quartet Systems > Saint Veran > 84220 Goult > France > Tel : 04 90 72 48 48 - Tel Intl : 33 4 90 72 48 48 > Fax : 04 90 72 42 80 - Fax Intl : 33 4 90 72 42 80 > E.mail : quartet@wanadoo.fr > WEB : finishing construction, coming very soon. > ================================================== > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 20:42:22-GMT,2029;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06587 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:42:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00131; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:25:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:23:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32762; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:23:37 -0500 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256621.006AB788.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:25:57 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Byte-serving PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have been using optimized PDF files with a NetScape server that can do byte-serving successfully. We were able to see the first page of a PDF file very fast. This worked fine until we introduced a proxy server at one location. I don't know much about the proxy server, but it looks like that the proxy server does not know how to byte-serve optimized PDF files. When clicking on a PDF file, the first page seems to appear very fast, but it is not possible to jump to other pages. Clicking on any bookmarks does not do anything either. It looks like the whole file has to be downloaded before hyperlinks will work. In the wrost case, NetScape and Acrobat Reader will lock up. Does anyone know if byte-serving works with a NetScape proxy server? Thanks, RJ Jiwungkul Bellcore rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-1998 21:41:00-GMT,2610;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07869 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:40:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02632; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 16:26:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jun 1998 16:24:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02547; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 16:24:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad colors Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:25:48 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1314457347-94310086@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Dilamarter (ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com) wrote on 6/12/98 1:18 PM: >Don't use the laserwriter printer driver--use the Distiller 3.0 PPD. I had >the same problem before I realized that Distiller has its own PPD. As to the >second part of your question, you can't make a pdf from corrupt postscript. >In fact, making a pdf is a great way to check the quality of your postscript >files, as it is quite particular about bad code. If you have a corrupt file, >go back to Quark (or whatever ) and fix it-find the bad image or whatever the >source of the corruption, and make fresh postscript. > >Eric Wannin wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Is anybody know why some colors are modified into gray levels when a >> PostScript file is created by the LaserWriter 8 printer driver on Mac OS ? >> >> How can I obtain a clean PDF file if the PostScript file is not OK before >> using the Distiller ? The one correction to the advice above is that you DO, of course, use the Laserwriter Driver AND select the "Acrobat Distiller 3.0" PPD. The driver and the PPD are not the same; BOTH are required. Your problem may have be due to selecting a B/W printer PPD. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax 13-Jun-1998 15:03:59-GMT,2361;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26238 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:03:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02104; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:44:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:40:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01961; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:40:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199806131440.HAA11040@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 07:40:38 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Apple Pushes Apple Development From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Lists Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" For those of you who do not read PDF Announce, Apple has announced plans at its May Apple Worldwide Developers Conference for implementing PDF (not Display Postscript) as the basis of its new OS imaging model. For reference, check out: http://www.zdnet.com/macweek/1221/nw_imaging.html (MacWeek - Adobe hails PDF in X) http://www.zdnet.com/macweek/1223/sy_postscript.html (MacWeek - New Era for OS imaging) This is a ringing endorsement for Adobe's PDF technology. The announcement was met by rousing applause by Apple developers. According to the announcement, it will also be a part of Apple's cross-platform Yellow Box API. Can anyone offer other links to reporting or commentary on this announcement? Any other comments? PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com 13-Jun-1998 15:14:42-GMT,2734;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26443 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:14:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02724; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:02:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:01:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02643; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:01:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199806131440.HAA11040@scotland.it.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:02:04 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Apple Pushes Apple Development Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Scott et al, There was a mention of this, with several related links, in the May 29 issue of our free PDFzone *EXTRA* newszine at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra52998.html#Press rgds ~ Kurt === At 9:40 AM -0500 6/13/98, C. Scott Miller wrote: For those of you who do not read PDF Announce, Apple has announced plans at its May Apple Worldwide Developers Conference for implementing PDF (not Display Postscript) as the basis of its new OS imaging model. For reference, check out: http://www.zdnet.com/macweek/1221/nw_imaging.html (MacWeek - Adobe hails PDF in X) http://www.zdnet.com/macweek/1223/sy_postscript.html (MacWeek - New Era for OS imaging) ... Any other comments? ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- "Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * PDF lists: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html * PDFzone EXTRA: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars -30- 15-Jun-1998 2:39:28-GMT,5307;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01225 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 20:39:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA32588; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 21:18:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 14 Jun 1998 21:10:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA32281; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 21:10:36 -0500 Message-Id: <4.0.1.19980614161925.01253100@seattle.sea.adobe.com> X-Sender: jfellema@seattle.sea.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:24:19 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Felleman Subject: Re: [PDF] Screen Captures In-Reply-To: <357E4B18.DF065945@empa.ch> References: <2.2.32.19980609164144.00f34480@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Just to clear up a little confusion: The Nyquist theorem (not a Law) is a signal processing theorem which says that to capture the information content of an analog signal, you must sample the signal at twice the frequency of the highest frequency component. This principle does not apply to sampling resolution of images in either of the two ways it is frequently misapplied: 1) When scanning a continuous tone image for subsequent halftone reproduction, conventional wisdom says that the scanning resolution should be twice the line ruling. This works pretty well, but has nothing to do with Nyquist. The Nyquist theorem would indicate the correct scan resolution, based on the content of the image itself. 2) If a continuous tone image is being scanned for subsequent contone viewing or printing (such as to a display), there is no advantage to scanning at a resolution higher than the display. For a PDF file, the image resolution should be high enough to account for the most demanding intended use of the file (screen, color printer, halftone reproduction, or whatever). Regards, John At 11:00 AM 6/10/98 +0200, Erwin Widmer wrote: > >I'd like to underline that statement. In the digital world there is that Nyqist >law which says that one should always grab twice the resolution one needs in >the end. Therefore you get a much better image quality by downsampling to 144 >dpi. >Unfortunately if someone grabs images from a screen where they are already 72 >dpi, there is no possibility to enhance the image quality. > >Erwin > > >Randy Stoltz wrote: > >> Try changing the Distiller downsampling options from the default 72 dpi to >> 150 or 200. It should not make the file much larger but will greatly improve >> the looks of your screen captures. >> >> At 08:51 AM 6/9/98 -0700, you wrote: >> > >> >We currently use Hijaak to capture screens, save as GIF, TIFF, or WMF, >> >import into FrameMaker (5.5.2), print to PS (Adobe's default printer driver >> >from Frame CD), then distill (3.02). We then use the PDF file to print and >> >post. The screen caps are usually very poor when distilled and therefore >> >both versions of the document show the bad graphic. I appreciate your >> >suggestions for a "resolution." >> > >> >Brad Federman >> >Fujitsu Business Communication Systems >> >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >> >For more info: John Cook >> >List-related questions: >> >Sub/Unsub: >> >--------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> >> Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. >> Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive >> Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA >> Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> >> ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >> For more info: John Cook >> List-related questions: >> Sub/Unsub: >> --------------------------------------------------------- > > > >===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== >For more info: John Cook >List-related questions: >Sub/Unsub: >--------------------------------------------------------- > John Felleman Director of Engineering Production Systems Adobe Systems, Incorporated 411 First Avenue South Seattle, WA 98104-2871 Phone: 206 470.7669 Fax: 206 470.7100 Email: jfellema@adobe.com 15-Jun-1998 4:55:29-GMT,1771;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03553 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 22:55:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04836; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:41:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:38:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04625; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:38:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199806150437.OAA00482@magna.com.au> X-Sender: larke@magna.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:27:56 +1000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Annette Larke Subject: [PDF] Hyperlinks within a pdf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread - and especially to Dean Laffan. I have read and carefully noted issues in the other thread on link-related bugs. I'll ye using your creative workaround and overlay a link field over button fields (cause I'm that desperate!) - and then use Compose to duplicate the field. Regards, Annette Larke Services Pty LTd Sydney, Australia URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ 15-Jun-1998 10:23:48-GMT,2721;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29041 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 04:23:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14211; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 05:07:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 05:04:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14058; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 05:04:03 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <41256624.0038B73C.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:21:44 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] DISTILLER DEFAULT PAGE SIZE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hi Sergio, How did you change your default Page size? Does your PS-Printerdriver (PDFWriter) support this Paper size? If not, it will be the same result, when printing a document to large for your paper size on a physical printer: The borders will be cropped. Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) Sergio_Guevara@Mitel.COM on 09.06.98 16:58:06 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] DISTILLER DEFAULT PAGE SIZE From: Sergio Guevara@MITEL on 06/09/98 11:58 AM Hi All! Does the Default Page Size in Distiller (3.01) have limitations? I have changed the default height to 12 inches, to accommodate a custom page size I created in FrameMaker 5.5.2. When I open the file after it is distilled from FrameMaker, the headers and the footers are cut from the .PDF file I created. The page size indication on the display bar shows that the height is 11 inches. I really want 12 inches. I am using Windows NT 4 (sp3) with a beefy system. Any clues? Sergio : ( sergio_guevara@mitel.com Mitel Enterprises ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== For more info: John Cook List-related questions: Sub/Unsub: --------------------------------------------------------- 15-Jun-1998 13:40:35-GMT,2339;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04732 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:40:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19859; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:56:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:55:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19822; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:55:19 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:54:17 +0200 To: PDF List Posting From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDF] Simplifying Reader and Plug-in installation Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" We are about to produce an electronic catalog on CD-ROM which is fully Acrobat based. We include Acrobat Reader and some plug-ins. The problem I now have, is to simplify the installation of Reader and the plug-ins (and maybe some setup). Of course, I can do it on the instruction level, but this is not very user-friendly, although from what I have seen, not everything can be automated. So, what I am looking for is a _very_ easy to use and low cost installation utility for Windows (3.1, 95 etc., NT) and for Mac. I might also need some help in adjusting or creating an usable script for UNIX. Any suggestions? Thanks a lot in advance. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat ... and now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html 15-Jun-1998 13:41:24-GMT,2637;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04764 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:41:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20784; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:17:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:16:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20706; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:16:05 -0500 Message-ID: <8D98F19E9EBAD1118D3900A0C96CC00E066591@nnse8.nns.com> From: "Nosil, Chris" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF conversion process Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:15:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am currently developing a process for my company to convert both electronic and paper documents to PDF. The PDF file will be read on a PC platform using the free Acrobat Reader (purchasing add-ins for the reader is not an option). Purchase of development tools may be a possibility. Both processes appear to be pretty simple in the general sense. I was hoping that some people on the list would be willing to share their successes and failures with me to make sure I don't fall prey to some of the common gotchas that I may have overlooked. There will probably be little functionality added to the documents; probably just bookmarks (low cost and easy development is essential). I am aware that TrueType fonts don't always convert well. Documents will need to be PDF Normal or Image+Text since full text searches are required. One of my concerns is printing. I know it is possible to have different size pages in the same PDF file but can I haven't been able to find a way to print multiple size pages. Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help me and I eagerly await your horror stories. Chris Nosil Newport News Shipbuilding 4101 Washington Avenue Newport News, Virginia 23607-2770 http://www.nns.com email: nosil_cj@nns.com phone: (757)688-9910 fax: (757)688-2137 15-Jun-1998 13:41:24-GMT,2954;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04762 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:41:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21189; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:23:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:22:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21097; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:22:31 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD9871.492686F0.mpeters@mapsoft.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Simplifying Reader and Plug-in installation Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:15:34 +0100 Organization: Mapsoft X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ---------- From: Max Wyss[SMTP:prodok@prodok.ch] Sent: Monday, June 15, 1998 1:54 PM To: PDF List Posting Subject: [PDF] Simplifying Reader and Plug-in installation ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" We are about to produce an electronic catalog on CD-ROM which is fully Acrobat based. We include Acrobat Reader and some plug-ins. The problem I now have, is to simplify the installation of Reader and the plug-ins (and maybe some setup). Of course, I can do it on the instruction level, but this is not very user-friendly, although from what I have seen, not everything can be automated. So, what I am looking for is a _very_ easy to use and low cost installation utility for Windows (3.1, 95 etc., NT) and for Mac. I might also need some help in adjusting or creating an usable script for UNIX. Any suggestions? Thanks a lot in advance. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat ... and now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html 15-Jun-1998 14:08:01-GMT,2786;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05507 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:08:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22348; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:48:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:47:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22291; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:47:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199806151347.IAA22287@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Simplifying Reader and Plug-in installation Date: Mon, 15 Jun 98 09:47:02 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" [Max Wyss wrote on 6/15/98 8:54 AM] >We are about to produce an electronic catalog on CD-ROM which is fully >Acrobat based. > >We include Acrobat Reader and some plug-ins. > >The problem I now have, is to simplify the installation of Reader and the >plug-ins (and maybe some setup). Of course, I can do it on the instruction >level, but this is not very user-friendly, although from what I have seen, >not everything can be automated. > >So, what I am looking for is a _very_ easy to use and low cost installation >utility for Windows (3.1, 95 etc., NT) and for Mac. I might also need some >help in adjusting or creating an usable script for UNIX. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks a lot in advance. > > >Max Wyss >PRODOK Engineering AG >Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing >CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Max, We have been using Installer Vise for both Mac and Windows plug-ins; and have been very happy with it because of its ease of use, reliability and capabilities. Installer Vise is not a very low cost utility but it does cost much less then Install Shield. If price is a real problem you should look into the Wise Installer for Windows and DragInstall for the Mac. I have used both of these to install plug-ins without any problems. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com 15-Jun-1998 15:01:23-GMT,1524;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07232 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:01:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25152; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:38:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:36:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25039; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:36:33 -0500 From: kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com Message-Id: <9806158979.AA897921407@deltahealth.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 98 10:36:45 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] fuzziness on screen. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Does anyone have an explanation as to why my PDF files appear fuzzy when I view them on my PC and how I can clear this problem up? Thanks. 15-Jun-1998 16:40:29-GMT,2072;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10899 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:40:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29881; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:13:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:11:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29760; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:11:21 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] fuzziness on screen. Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:05:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd9878$08485ee0$LocalHost@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9806158979.AA897921407@deltahealth.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Does anyone have an explanation as to why my PDF files appear > fuzzy when I view > them on my PC and how I can clear this problem up? Please post more details: 1. How are you making the PDF files - what platform (e.g. Windows NT 4.0), what application (e.g. Word 97), what Acrobat product (e.g. PDFWriter 3.02). 2. What compression and downsampling settings you are using in PDFWriter or Distiller. 3. The type of original graphic you are using, and how it is placed into your application. That should help... Aandi 15-Jun-1998 16:56:16-GMT,2711;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11453 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:56:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31421; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:42:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:42:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31325; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:42:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:41:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Murphy To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] fuzziness on screen. In-Reply-To: <9806158979.AA897921407@deltahealth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" are you sure 1- your monitor is ok 2- you have the correct vid settings on your PC? (card, vid memory, dpi, colors,) 3- if you have trouble looking at other high resolution graphics (ie. jpegs, gifs, then you might want to get a new video card that can handle graphics (just some suggestions) Biff /* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- American Institute of Physics BiffSocko biff@aip.org (Tom Murphy) biffsocko@mindspring.com 1.516.576.2329 tmurphy@aip.org http://www.aip.org rwraith@imag.lamers.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- */ On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com wrote: > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > > Does anyone have an explanation as to why my PDF files appear fuzzy when I view > them on my PC and how I can clear this problem up? > > Thanks. > > > 15-Jun-1998 16:56:24-GMT,1623;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11465 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:56:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31422; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:42:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:41:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31290; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:41:52 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980615124619.0077eddc@kansas.stk.com> X-Sender: sheila@kansas.stk.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:46:19 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sheila Marshall Subject: [PDF] Fuzzy PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hello! If the pdf files are fuzzy when you're reading them on-line using Reader, just go to Files/Preference->General in the Reader. In the General tab, make sure the Smooth Text & Monochrome Images option is OFF. This must be set for each individual's Reader. Sheila 15-Jun-1998 18:11:20-GMT,1755;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14162 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:11:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA03168; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:11:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:07:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03000; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:07:42 -0500 Message-ID: <358564BD.438FF556@aristesoftware.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:15:25 -0700 From: Todd Cary X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdf Developers Subject: [PDFdev] Nifty features of PDF Writer? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ I have incorporated the PDF Writer in my Delphi application so that I can "print" reports that can be e-mailed. Works like a champ! Should have done this years ago!! I use the WIN.INI file to dynamically set the output file. Now the question. I see the e-mail messages concerning mnay other things that can be done with OLE (COM). Can someone give me a thumbnail overview of some of the things I can do and should investigate. Todd 15-Jun-1998 17:13:48-GMT,3306;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12067 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:13:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32157; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:55:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:54:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32071; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:54:41 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980615165452.00d4afd8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:54:52 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] fuzziness on screen. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Also, have you UN-checked the Acrobat File>Preferences>General setting called "Smooth text and Monochrome images"? This setting, which is enabled by default, can lead to a "fuzzy" appearance. Tom Thiersch At 12:41 PM 6/15/98 -0400, you wrote: > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >are you sure > >1- your monitor is ok >2- you have the correct vid settings on your PC? > (card, vid memory, dpi, colors,) >3- if you have trouble looking at other high resolution graphics (ie. > jpegs, gifs, then you might want to get a new video card that can > handle graphics > >(just some suggestions) > >Biff > > >/* >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > American Institute of Physics >BiffSocko biff@aip.org >(Tom Murphy) biffsocko@mindspring.com >1.516.576.2329 tmurphy@aip.org >http://www.aip.org rwraith@imag.lamers.org >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- >*/ > >On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com wrote: > >> >> ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >> Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >> -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >> To Sub/Unsub: >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >> >> >> Does anyone have an explanation as to why my PDF files appear fuzzy when I view >> them on my PC and how I can clear this problem up? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> > > 15-Jun-1998 20:49:02-GMT,2391;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19972 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:49:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10550; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:32:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:30:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10447; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:30:29 -0500 From: Sergio_Guevara@Mitel.COM X-Lotus-FromDomain: MITEL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256624.006F804C.00@kanmta01.software.mitel.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:30:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Antwort: [PDF] DISTILLER DEFAULT PAGE SIZE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" From: Sergio Guevara@MITEL on 06/15/98 04:30 PM Laura: >How did you change your default Page size? I changed the page size from within my desktop publishing software, FrameMaker 5.5.2, and from within Acrobat Distiller. >Does your PS-Printerdriver (PDFWriter) support this Paper size? I'm not sure. But I received better results, in regards to page size, when I printed to the Acrobat PDFWriter. However, the res on my graphics were shot. I tried adjusting things within Distiller, but to no avail. >If not, it will be the same result, when printing a document to large for >your paper size on a physical printer: The borders will be cropped. My paper size is larger than A4, but I have to set my paper size within FrameMaker to A4 in order to print my document. The document comes out beautiful via the FrameMaker software. It is when I save the file as a PDF, print to PS or print to Acrobat PDFWriter (distilling afterwards) that my : ) turns to : ( Perhaps it is a FrownMaker thing. Any clues? Best, Sergio : ) Mitel Enterprises sergio_guevara@mitel.com 15-Jun-1998 21:48:36-GMT,2094;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22191 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:48:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13545; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:33:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:31:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13442; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:31:51 -0500 From: "Michael L. Jewell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] fuzziness on screen. In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980615165452.00d4afd8@env-sol.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:31:27 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.4 Build (40) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:54:52 -0700 Tom Thiersch wrote: > > Also, have you UN-checked the Acrobat File>Preferences>General setting > called "Smooth text and Monochrome images"? > > This setting, which is enabled by default, can lead to a "fuzzy" appearance. > If this 'feature' is supposed to improve viewing, why are the results contrary to that? Is there any way to tell which option is best for a given document/font? Can the setting be changed when Reader is a browser plugin? Can a document have a setting which would override Reader's setting? -- Mike Jewell mlj3u@virginia.edu 804-982-2175 15-Jun-1998 23:17:12-GMT,2267;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25367 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:17:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17245; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:01:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:59:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17098; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:59:25 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] fuzziness on screen. Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 23:28:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd98b1$231bcde0$c55795c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > > > Also, have you UN-checked the Acrobat > File>Preferences>General setting > > called "Smooth text and Monochrome images"? > > > > This setting, which is enabled by default, can lead to a > "fuzzy" appearance. > > > > If this 'feature' is supposed to improve viewing, why are the results > contrary to that? 1. Because smooth (anti-aliased) fonts are not to everyone's tastes, especially those who have not seen it before. 2. Because there is a bug, which affects not text but certain bitmap images, making them non-transparent. > Is there any way to tell which option is best for a given > document/font? Personal taste. The creator cannot (and should not attempt to) dictate their own tastes. Aandi 16-Jun-1998 12:05:40-GMT,2002;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03655 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 06:05:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07911; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 06:46:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 06:41:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07701; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 06:41:27 -0500 Message-ID: <358659B0.5BC07022@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:40:32 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] fuzziness on screen. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Michael L. Jewell wrote: > > If this 'feature' is supposed to improve viewing, why are the results > contrary to that? As Aandi said, personal taste is a big factor. Another more objective factor is the viewing aspect ratio. On an 11" 640x480 active-matrix LCD, the anti-aliasing is a must. On a 17" 1280x1024 0.25mm dot-pitch monitor, it might just get in your way. Personally I'm glad (grateful, even) that the feature is there, although it has singly probably generated more traffic on PDF mailing lists than any other feature or bug. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group 16-Jun-1998 12:52:27-GMT,2869;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05011 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 06:52:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09783; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:34:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:33:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09747; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:33:06 -0500 Message-Id: <98Jun16.133412gmt+0100.14348@vhd-fwall.voith.de> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:32:19 +0100 From: "Fritz Junker" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Font Embedding Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA09744 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hello all! We have a strange phenomen with the embedding of fonts in PDF documents. We are using WinNT 4.0 and installed AdobeAcrobat 3.0 as well as AdobeTypeManager 4.0. The results now in the following effects: 1. When we are using the PDFWriter to create the PDF file, it is only possible to embed TrueType-Fonts fully. Also the Font submenu for "always imbedded" fonts offers only TrueType-Fonts for selection. 2. When we use the Distiller to prepare the PDF file, then it is just vice versa. It is only possible to embed Type1-Fonts fully. When selecting the "always embedded" Fonts, only Type1-Fonts are offered for selection, even though the TTF files of the TrueType-Fonts are in the monitored Font File. For us the problem mentioned last is the major problem, because we have many documents with the usual Windows-TrueType-Fonts used to prepare PDF files. If we are now not able to embed the Fonts fully with the standard Windows symbols available, this results in three essential handicaps for us: 1. Text positions cannot be changed subsequently with Exchange. 2. Text cannot be copied correctly via the clipboard in another application. 3. Bookmarks cannot be prepared simply by marking and pressing "STRG-B". Do anyone perhaps have an explanation for this phenomenon or can anyone even solve the problem? Your reply would be highly appreciated. Fritz Junker Email: fritz.junker@voith.de 16-Jun-1998 13:33:19-GMT,1988;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06166 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:33:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11478; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:11:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:10:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11412; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:10:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Font Embedding Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 06:13:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Fritz, I encountered the same problem when I moved from PDFWriter to Distiller. I now use Type 1 fonts for all my documents, but when I receive documents from other departments they always use True Type fonts. Fortunately, they are also usually three basic fonts. So in my printer driver I now use the substitution table which sends my fonts to postscript using Type 1 fonts. I've had great success going this route. Hope this helps. Randy Johnston State of the Art, Inc. 56 Technology Irvine, Ca. 92718 1 800/854-3415 ext 4380 16-Jun-1998 14:07:22-GMT,3381;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07158 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:07:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12841; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:40:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:37:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12682; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:37:57 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Font Embedding Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:36:51 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd992b$d4ff8180$455795c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <98Jun16.133412gmt+0100.14348@vhd-fwall.voith.de> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > We have a strange phenomen with the embedding of fonts in PDF > documents. > > We are using WinNT 4.0 and installed AdobeAcrobat 3.0 as well > as AdobeTypeManager 4.0. > > The results now in the following effects: > > 1. > When we are using the PDFWriter to create the PDF file, it is > only possible to embed TrueType-Fonts fully. Also the Font > submenu for "always imbedded" fonts offers only > TrueType-Fonts for selection. Perhaps an incompatability with ATM/NT, don't know. > > 2. > When we use the Distiller to prepare the PDF file, then it is > just vice versa. It is only possible to embed Type1-Fonts > fully. When selecting the "always embedded" Fonts, only > Type1-Fonts are offered for selection, even though the TTF > files of the TrueType-Fonts are in the monitored Font File. Now, this is normal on all platforms. Distiller only knows about PostScript fonts. It is the responsibility of the PostScript driver to convert TT fonts to some form of PostScript font, which Distiller then (somehow, magically) knows to embed. There is no longer any connection with the original TT font. > > For us the problem mentioned last is the major problem, > because we have many documents with the usual > Windows-TrueType-Fonts used to prepare PDF files. If we are > now not able to embed the Fonts fully with the standard > Windows symbols available, this results in three essential > handicaps for us: > > 1. > Text positions cannot be changed subsequently with Exchange. > > 2. > Text cannot be copied correctly via the clipboard in another > application. This is nothing to do with whether fonts are embedded. This is because the PostScript drivers "shuffle" fonts before Distiller sees them. > > 3. > Bookmarks cannot be prepared simply by marking and pressing "STRG-B". > Same reason. > Aandi 16-Jun-1998 14:12:18-GMT,2381;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07343 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:12:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13710; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:55:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:54:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13608; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:54:18 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:53:50 +0100 From: Huw Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Searching on multi-disk Acrobat CD-ROM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am producing a simple PDF-driven CD-ROM on which PDF files are indexed with Adobe Catalog. Acrobat Readers with Search for the various platforms are also included. My problem is that the PDF data spans two CD-ROMs, so searching is made difficult. I assume that users will prefer to search the entire data set despite the inevitable changing between the CD-ROMs but I want to keep the search setup simple. The best simple system I can come up with is to index all the data, then split the data across the two disks and put the search index on both disks. Then on each disk include dummy PDF files for all PDF files that reside on the *other* disk. These dummy PDF files do no more than prompt the user to insert the other disk and click on the Search Results hit again. I'm hoping that searching will be enabled irrespective of which CD-ROM is in the drive and that the dummy files will be more user-friendly than file not found messages. Can anyone tell me if I'm right or if I'm missing something crucial? All comments and suggestions gratefully received. Thanks, Huw Johnson Institute of Physics Publishing 16-Jun-1998 14:15:08-GMT,1672;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07422 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:15:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14046; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:01:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:00:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13987; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:00:50 -0500 Message-ID: <35866BED.54EB@pit-magnus.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:58:21 -0400 From: "Mike Galloway" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Centering type on page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" When viewing a PDF file the type on the page sits off centered. There is a lot of white space on the left hand side of the page and very little space on the right hand side of the page. Is there anyway that we can get the type to appear centered on the page when it is viewed? Mike Galloway Progressive Information Technologies 16-Jun-1998 14:57:13-GMT,1887;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08824 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15858; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:34:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:33:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15782; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:33:18 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD9942.DE2B1AA0@pC19F3340.dip.t-online.de> To: "'PDF-List'" Subject: AW: [PDF] Centering type on page Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:21:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0211682900-0001@t-online.de From: tm_consult@t-online.de (Thomas Mueller) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Mike, which view type did you chose in file information open dialog? Did you try fit width or fit visible? Tom + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Thomas Mueller Author and Consultant for Digital Communication P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html ---------- Von: Mike Galloway Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Juni 1998 14:58 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: [PDF] Centering type on page 16-Jun-1998 16:13:53-GMT,3844;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11635 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:13:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19172; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:47:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:44:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19012; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:44:54 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980616154438.00d8927c@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:44:38 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Searching on multi-disk Acrobat CD-ROM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Your scheme of substituting dummy PDFs after indexing can't work -- the search engine will tell you that "the document has been moved or is out of date" when you try to access it via a Search>Query>View command (try it!) Bottom line: There's absolutely no way to index a collection that spans more than one CD using the tools available from Adobe. A third-party, proprietary, solution is the only way to do that at this time. The easiest way to deal with this, and stay 100% Adobe, is: 1. Logically group the data onto separate discs, and train your audience to know which of the discs is likely to contain the data they need. - or - 2. Your users can search multiple discs (one index per disc) with a single query if they: 2a. Have an inexpensive CD-ROM changer, or 2b. Copy one or more of the CDs to their hard drive (when you can buy an 8 GB disk for < $250 at a retail store, why worry about it?) Tom Thiersch At 02:53 PM 6/16/98 +0100, you wrote: > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >I am producing a simple PDF-driven CD-ROM on which PDF files are indexed with >Adobe Catalog. Acrobat Readers with Search for the various platforms are also >included. > >My problem is that the PDF data spans two CD-ROMs, so searching is made >difficult. I assume that users will prefer to search the entire data set despite >the inevitable changing between the CD-ROMs but I want to keep the search setup >simple. The best simple system I can come up with is to index all the data, then >split the data across the two disks and put the search index on both disks. Then >on each disk include dummy PDF files for all PDF files that reside on the >*other* disk. These dummy PDF files do no more than prompt the user to insert >the other disk and click on the Search Results hit again. >I'm hoping that searching will be enabled irrespective of which CD-ROM is in the >drive and that the dummy files will be more user-friendly than file not found >messages. > >Can anyone tell me if I'm right or if I'm missing something crucial? All >comments and suggestions gratefully received. > >Thanks, > >Huw Johnson >Institute of Physics Publishing > 16-Jun-1998 16:15:08-GMT,2451;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11706 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:15:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19802; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:59:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:58:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19733; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:58:49 -0500 Message-ID: <002f01bd993f$80845ef0$9956c897@dale.querisoft.com> From: "Dale Gardner" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] Page Size Wrong -- Solved. Sort of... Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:57:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Thanks to all who offered advice on the problem of getting custom page sizes to work in an Acrobat 3.0/Windows NT 4.0/Word 97 environment. Several people asked to learn how this turned out -- I reached a resolution so wanted to bring others up to date. Adobe indicates this is a problem specific to the NT (and AdobePS 5) environment. Custom page sizes are "not honored" in this configuration. The recommended workaround is to produce the PDF (actually, the PostScript to be distilled, since that's where the problem really lies...) on a Windows 95 machine. I tried this out last nite, using AdobePS 4 for Win95, and received the proper page size. One of the recommendations from the list was to change the PPD used -- I never actually got around to trying this out. I asked tech support about it; their view was that it shouldn't make a difference but that I was of course free to experiment. Hope this helps others... Dale Gardner daleg@ix.netcom.com 16-Jun-1998 16:55:55-GMT,1940;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13119 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:55:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21443; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:34:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:33:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21342; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:33:38 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Centering type on page Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:17:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd9944$69344120$f05695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <35866BED.54EB@pit-magnus.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > When viewing a PDF file the type on the page sits off centered. There > is a lot of white space on the left hand side of the page and very > little space on the right hand side of the page. Is there anyway that > we can get the type to appear centered on the page when it is viewed? > This is not a property of PDF, but of your specific PDF file. It should be remade with different margins. Aandi 16-Jun-1998 16:56:08-GMT,1896;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13127 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:56:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21407; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:34:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:32:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21276; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:32:49 -0500 Message-Id: From: Myranda Hughes To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] pdf files on the internet Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:31:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" We have created a CD-ROM using Exchange containing hundreds of pages of linked material. The material is separated into several chapters. We currently have been trying to post these files to our intranet so the employees could use the links and search capabilities of the CD-ROM over the intranet. The problem is that when the files are imported into a web page content the links no longer work. It gives an invalid page specification error. Any suggestions??? Thanks, Myranda Hughes Ontario Systems Corporation myrandah@ontario.com 16-Jun-1998 16:56:42-GMT,3282;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13132 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:56:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21450; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:34:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:33:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21373; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:33:49 -0500 Message-ID: <1D21246393F8D011991000A02461FE6F9B8E10@XSF1.dolby.com> From: "Goldin, Susan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Page Size Wrong -- Solved. Sort of... Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:33:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I must create a non-standard page size and get all bookmarks and links to transfer from Word, Office 97, to Acrobat. I configure the Word page setup for margins I want but increase the footer-from-edge distance. I create my PDF file using PDFMaker and crop pages in Acrobat Exchange. This has been the only method I have found to create the desired page size and get links correctly placed on pages. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale Gardner [SMTP:daleg@ix.netcom.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 8:58 AM > To: PDF List > Subject: [PDF] Page Size Wrong -- Solved. Sort of... > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Thanks to all who offered advice on the problem of getting custom page > sizes > to work in an Acrobat 3.0/Windows NT 4.0/Word 97 environment. Several > people > asked to learn how this turned out -- I reached a resolution so wanted to > bring others up to date. > > Adobe indicates this is a problem specific to the NT (and AdobePS 5) > environment. Custom page sizes are "not honored" in this configuration. > The > recommended workaround is to produce the PDF (actually, the PostScript to > be > distilled, since that's where the problem really lies...) on a Windows 95 > machine. I tried this out last nite, using AdobePS 4 for Win95, and > received > the proper page size. > > One of the recommendations from the list was to change the PPD used -- I > never actually got around to trying this out. I asked tech support about > it; > their view was that it shouldn't make a difference but that I was of > course > free to experiment. > > Hope this helps others... > > Dale Gardner > daleg@ix.netcom.com 16-Jun-1998 17:30:04-GMT,2129;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14405 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:30:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22985; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:12:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:10:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22925; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:10:52 -0500 Message-ID: <003e01bd9949$a4ffc5d0$9956c897@dale.querisoft.com> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Page Size Wrong -- Solved. Sort of... Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:10:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Susan Goldin said: >I must create a non-standard page size and get all bookmarks and links to >transfer from Word, Office 97, to Acrobat. I configure the Word page setup >for margins I want but increase the footer-from-edge distance. I create my >PDF file using PDFMaker and crop pages in Acrobat Exchange. This has been >the only method I have found to create the desired page size and get links >correctly placed on pages. Thanks -- I forgot to mention this as an option. In my case, this was not an acceptable workaround since I have a need for the PostScript file itself in addition to using it as input to Distiller. Dale Gardner 16-Jun-1998 17:52:06-GMT,3931;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15275 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:52:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23915; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:36:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:35:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23872; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:35:54 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf files on the internet Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 18:35:46 +0100 Message-ID: <001301bd994d$32165da0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Myranda wrote: > We have created a CD-ROM using Exchange containing hundreds of pages of > linked material. The material is separated into several chapters. We > currently have been trying to post these files to our intranet so the > employees could use the links and search capabilities of the > CD-ROM over the > intranet. The problem is that when the files are imported into a web page > content the links no longer work. It gives an invalid page specification > error. You are not the first to fall foul of this one. You probably made the links as "open document" links as opposed to "go to view" links. Customers of ours have solved this by using PDFfusion to create a single PDF file. PDFfusion automatically re-works the links between documents into internal "go to view" links. Let me know off list if you require further info or check out www.docctrl.com Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Myranda Hughes > Sent: 16 June 1998 17:32 > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] pdf files on the internet > > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > We have created a CD-ROM using Exchange containing hundreds of pages of > linked material. The material is separated into several chapters. We > currently have been trying to post these files to our intranet so the > employees could use the links and search capabilities of the > CD-ROM over the > intranet. The problem is that when the files are imported into a web page > content the links no longer work. It gives an invalid page specification > error. > > Any suggestions??? > > Thanks, > > Myranda Hughes > Ontario Systems Corporation > myrandah@ontario.com > 16-Jun-1998 18:33:31-GMT,3368;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16614 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:33:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25335; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:11:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:09:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25245; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:09:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf files on the internet Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:12:20 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Myranda, Are your links set up for a relative path or for the full path, such as C:\Folder1\Folder2\YourPdf.pdf? If they're set to a full path, then they will all have to be changed to a relative path. I don't know if there are any plug-ins that will do this for you. You may also want to confirm that your directory structure is the same on your web server as it is on the CdRom. One other option you may check, if you are running IE4, you will need to install the ActiveX control that can be found on the Adobe web site. I noticed on my system, we did the same thing here by putting the contents of our CdRom onto the web, when ActiveX was not installed, I would get the "file not found" page. Hope this is of use for you, Randy Johnston State of the Art, Inc. 56 Technology Irvine, Ca. 92718 1 800/854-3415 ext 4380 -----Original Message----- From: Myranda Hughes [SMTP:myrandah@ontario.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 9:32 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] pdf files on the internet ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" We have created a CD-ROM using Exchange containing hundreds of pages of linked material. The material is separated into several chapters. We currently have been trying to post these files to our intranet so the employees could use the links and search capabilities of the CD-ROM over the intranet. The problem is that when the files are imported into a web page content the links no longer work. It gives an invalid page specification error. Any suggestions??? Thanks, Myranda Hughes Ontario Systems Corporation myrandah@ontario.com 16-Jun-1998 18:56:52-GMT,1763;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17494 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:56:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26759; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:43:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:42:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26666; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:42:11 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:42:03 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: [PDF] Save dialog always appearing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691B62@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Some PDF files that we recently printed to PostScript from FrameMaker 5.5 (Mac) and distilled open and function fine. However, when closing the file a do you want to save dialog appears. This happen even after you save, close the file, then reopen, and immediately try to close the same file. I have never seen this before and I do not see any preference that can be set. Any ideas? Jim watson@battelle.org 614-424-4675 / fax 3718 16-Jun-1998 20:51:12-GMT,2101;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21543 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:51:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31778; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:31:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:29:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31617; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:29:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:20:57 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jeff Busha Subject: [PDF] PDF Repairs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Greetings List: Is there a way to fix a PDF file that displays messages that follow? First message: The file is damaged but being repaired Next message: An unrecognized token '(box)*' was found. (the word "box" in above line is a graphical character) Final message: There were several parsing errors on this page. After opening, page thumbnails look fine, but real pages don't display at all. I believe the problem came when downloaded to a local hard drive then replaced on a client's Web site. Thanks in advance to anybody who can help! JB ______________________________________________ M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) ______________________________________________ 16-Jun-1998 22:11:31-GMT,2909;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24934 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:11:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02436; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:46:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:44:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02325; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:44:19 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 23:40:16 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Repairs Cc: Jeff Busha Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Jeff, it depends on what happened to the file before you attemted to open it. Also, what System are you using? Are you short on resources on your system? Are you using Reader or Exchange? All that can give us a bit more hints on where the problem lies. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Greetings List: > >Is there a way to fix a PDF file that displays messages that follow? > >First message: >The file is damaged but being repaired > >Next message: >An unrecognized token '(box)*' was found. >(the word "box" in above line is a graphical character) > >Final message: >There were several parsing errors on this page. > >After opening, page thumbnails look fine, but real pages don't display at >all. I believe the problem came when downloaded to a local hard drive then >replaced on a client's Web site. > >Thanks in advance to anybody who can help! > >JB > > > ______________________________________________ > M A R A T H O N C O M M U N I C A T I O N S > 2001 Second St - Wausau WI 54403 > 715.845.4231 (voice) - 715.845.9276 (fax) > ______________________________________________ 17-Jun-1998 2:20:41-GMT,2407;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02579 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:20:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11014; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:54:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:50:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10856; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:50:54 -0500 Message-ID: <35872109.CB60E9B7@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:51:05 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Saving PDF Files References: <002501bd9631$e46c2b20$a649accf@mcglinn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA10853 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Just do a "save as" under the file command for Navigator or Explorer. Just make sure to put in the pdf extension and adhere to the wonderful 8.3 Dos format swhen saving the file. It works for me. Bob Moran Kathy McGlinn wrote: > When you are viewing a pdf on the Internet. How do you save it to your hard > drive? > > Thanks > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 17-Jun-1998 2:38:46-GMT,2924;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03022 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:38:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11015; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:54:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:48:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10731; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:48:45 -0500 Message-ID: <35872088.1597B7F1@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:48:57 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad colors References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA10727 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" You must use a color PS printer to get color PDF's. Using the Adobe Distiller driver is the best way to go. If not that, use the Apple Color Laser PPD. Bob Moran Eric Wannin wrote: > Hello, > > Is anybody know why some colors are modified into gray levels when a > PostScript file is created by the LaserWriter 8 printer driver on Mac OS ? > > How can I obtain a clean PDF file if the PostScript file is not OK before > using the Distiller ? > > Thank you > > ================================================== > Eric Wannin - Sales & Marketing Manager > Quartet Systems > Saint Veran > 84220 Goult > France > Tel : 04 90 72 48 48 - Tel Intl : 33 4 90 72 48 48 > Fax : 04 90 72 42 80 - Fax Intl : 33 4 90 72 42 80 > E.mail : quartet@wanadoo.fr > WEB : finishing construction, coming very soon. > ================================================== > > ===== CONTACT US ABOUT LIST SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ==== > For more info: John Cook > List-related questions: > Sub/Unsub: > --------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 17-Jun-1998 2:38:48-GMT,3884;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03028 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:38:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11903; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:15:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:14:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11828; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:14:37 -0500 Message-ID: <35872698.D9138DF5@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 22:14:49 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF conversion process References: <8D98F19E9EBAD1118D3900A0C96CC00E066591@nnse8.nns.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA11825 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" PDF works fine for printing if people know how to work with the app and understand where PDF fits in for document distribution and printing. See the tutorial sets on the DC site as they do help people get to speed using the technology. The freebies include reader for Mac and Windows plus a linker that describes what PDF is. End of shameless plug. Bob Moran Nosil, Chris wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > I am currently developing a process for my company to convert both > electronic and paper documents to PDF. The PDF file will be read on a PC > platform using the free Acrobat Reader (purchasing add-ins for the reader is > not an option). Purchase of development tools may be a possibility. > > Both processes appear to be pretty simple in the general sense. I was > hoping that some people on the list would be willing to share their > successes and failures with me to make sure I don't fall prey to some of the > common gotchas that I may have overlooked. There will probably be little > functionality added to the documents; probably just bookmarks (low cost and > easy development is essential). I am aware that TrueType fonts don't always > convert well. Documents will need to be PDF Normal or Image+Text since full > text searches are required. > > One of my concerns is printing. I know it is possible to have different > size pages in the same PDF file but can I haven't been able to find a way to > print multiple size pages. > > Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help me and I eagerly await your > horror stories. > > Chris Nosil > Newport News Shipbuilding > 4101 Washington Avenue > Newport News, Virginia 23607-2770 > http://www.nns.com > email: nosil_cj@nns.com > phone: (757)688-9910 > fax: (757)688-2137 -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 17-Jun-1998 2:39:11-GMT,3502;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03041 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:39:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11711; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:12:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:10:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11645; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:10:22 -0500 Message-ID: <35872596.7D67963E@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 22:10:30 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Simplifying Reader and Plug-in installation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA11642 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Check out the tutorila on the DC site as to an approach that can show people how to install reader. Reader's not a big deal to install as long as the instruction give are concise and accurate. Adobe's are anything but concise on anything to do with Acrobat. Bob Moran Max Wyss wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > We are about to produce an electronic catalog on CD-ROM which is fully > Acrobat based. > > We include Acrobat Reader and some plug-ins. > > The problem I now have, is to simplify the installation of Reader and the > plug-ins (and maybe some setup). Of course, I can do it on the instruction > level, but this is not very user-friendly, although from what I have seen, > not everything can be automated. > > So, what I am looking for is a _very_ easy to use and low cost installation > utility for Windows (3.1, 95 etc., NT) and for Mac. I might also need some > help in adjusting or creating an usable script for UNIX. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering AG > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com > > Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... > > ... with Acrobat ... and now for belt drive designers at > > http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 17-Jun-1998 9:06:50-GMT,2854;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00609 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 03:06:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA23009; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 03:47:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 03:41:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA22819; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 03:41:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:40:40 +0100 (BST) From: Ann Apps Message-Id: <199806170840.JAA22119@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Repairs X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Is there a way to fix a PDF file that displays messages that follow? > > First message: > The file is damaged but being repaired > > Next message: > An unrecognized token '(box)*' was found. > (the word "box" in above line is a graphical character) > > Final message: > There were several parsing errors on this page. > I see these error messages fairly often. Usually for one of these reasons: 1. The file has been corrupted during FTP transfer. PDF files *must* be transferred in binary mode. Binary mode should be set explicitly, don't rely on 'automatic' choosing 'binary' - PDF looks like text to dumb software. 2. Trying to read Acrobat 3 files with Acrobat 2 Reader. 3. Reading the PDF file with Acrobat installed as a plug-in to a web browser. (I haven't yet understood the cause of this one - the file is OK when not read over the web. This happens with just an occasional file.) > After opening, page thumbnails look fine, but real pages don't display at > all. I believe the problem came when downloaded to a local hard drive then > replaced on a client's Web site. > It sounds to me like corruption was caused during one of the transfers. The only remedy for this is to transfer the file again. Ann -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Ann Apps. SuperJournal Project, Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6039 Fax: +44 (0) 161 275 6040 Email: Ann.Apps@mcc.ac.uk WWW: http://www.superjournal.ac.uk/sj/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jun-1998 9:22:28-GMT,3550;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01014 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 03:22:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA24285; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:21:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:18:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24143; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:17:58 -0500 Message-ID: <029101bd99d0$c3bc8080$160519c3@Franck1.Consultant> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: Cc: Subject: [PDFdev] launch PDF file in VB5 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:17:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_028B_01BD99E1.7C800D20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_028B_01BD99E1.7C800D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I want to launch a PDF file, by a command line in Visual Basic 5, = without indicate where is Acrobat Reader; I know that i can do in VB5 : C:\Acrobat3\Acroread32.exe Exemple.pdf But i want to do this syntax in VB5: C:\Exemple.pdf And Here, Registration table of Windows 95, indicate where is Acrobat = Reader. Franck Filhoulaud ------=_NextPart_000_028B_01BD99E1.7C800D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Hello,
     
    I want to launch a PDF file, by a = command line=20 in Visual Basic 5, without indicate where is Acrobat = Reader;
     
    I know that i can do in VB5 = :
     
    C:\Acrobat3\Acroread32.exe=20 Exemple.pdf
     
    But i want to do this syntax in=20 VB5:
     
    C:\Exemple.pdf
     
    And Here, Registration table of = Windows 95,=20 indicate where is Acrobat Reader.
     
    Franck = Filhoulaud
    ------=_NextPart_000_028B_01BD99E1.7C800D20-- 17-Jun-1998 9:25:07-GMT,2067;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01056 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 03:25:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA23948; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:12:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:07:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA23785; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:07:17 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving PDF Files Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 03:13:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd99cf$37c85dc0$LocalHost@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35872109.CB60E9B7@kiwi.futuris.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Just do a "save as" under the file command for Navigator or > Explorer. Just make > sure to put in the pdf extension and adhere to the wonderful > 8.3 Dos format > swhen saving the file. It works for me. > > Bob Moran > > Kathy McGlinn wrote: > > > When you are viewing a pdf on the Internet. How do you save > it to your hard > > drive? There have been many reports that this does not work with Explorer. For reliable results, right click on the link to a PDF file instead, and select Save from the pop-up menu. Aandi 17-Jun-1998 9:46:48-GMT,3606;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01625 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 03:46:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA24300; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:21:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:17:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24122; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:17:56 -0500 Message-ID: <029101bd99d0$c3bc8080$160519c3@Franck1.Consultant> From: "Franck Filhoulaud" To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] launch PDF file in VB5 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:17:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_028B_01BD99E1.7C800D20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_028B_01BD99E1.7C800D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I want to launch a PDF file, by a command line in Visual Basic 5, = without indicate where is Acrobat Reader; I know that i can do in VB5 : C:\Acrobat3\Acroread32.exe Exemple.pdf But i want to do this syntax in VB5: C:\Exemple.pdf And Here, Registration table of Windows 95, indicate where is Acrobat = Reader. Franck Filhoulaud ------=_NextPart_000_028B_01BD99E1.7C800D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hello,
     
    I want to launch a PDF file, by a = command line=20 in Visual Basic 5, without indicate where is Acrobat = Reader;
     
    I know that i can do in VB5 = :
     
    C:\Acrobat3\Acroread32.exe=20 Exemple.pdf
     
    But i want to do this syntax in=20 VB5:
     
    C:\Exemple.pdf
     
    And Here, Registration table of = Windows 95,=20 indicate where is Acrobat Reader.
     
    Franck = Filhoulaud
    ------=_NextPart_000_028B_01BD99E1.7C800D20-- 17-Jun-1998 9:49:29-GMT,2034;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01697 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 03:49:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA24700; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:30:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:25:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24466; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:25:43 -0500 Message-ID: <19980617091508.12423.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 02:15:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoph Ahlers Subject: [PDF] email-plugin for Acrobat Reader ? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hello, we are building our company intranet using Acrobat exchange. Unfortunately there is no possibility to send a pdf-file as email from within the pdf-file. I´m searching for a plugin that allows all users of our intranet-website to send the pdf by email. Is there a plugin for this purpose ? It is important, that the email-function works with the reader alone and doesn´t depend on exchange. Thanx four your help. Chris === Christoph Ahlers Paderborn, Germany mailto:christoph.ahlers@bertelsmann.de mailto:cahlers@rocketmail.com mailto:r00018@pbhrzs0.uni-paderborn.de _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com 17-Jun-1998 14:42:48-GMT,2235;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10881 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02414; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:16:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:08:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01962; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:08:16 -0500 Message-ID: <19980617135739.12236.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 06:57:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoph Ahlers Subject: [PDF] plugin for pdf: file-info To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hello, as we use pdf-files in our intranet it should comply to ISO 9000 standards. For quality-management we need to have a version-control of our pdf-files. Is there a plugin for Acrobat Exchange with the following functionality: whenever I create a pdf-file (either a new one or a Word-document converted to pdf) it should print file-infos about this newly created pdf-document into this pdf-document. For example: the date and time it was created, the author who created it, an incremental number, which can be used for version-control. This information should be located as a footer on every page. Thanks for any help. Regards Chris === Christoph Ahlers Paderborn, Germany mailto:christoph.ahlers@bertelsmann.de mailto:cahlers@rocketmail.com mailto:r00018@pbhrzs0.uni-paderborn.de _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com 17-Jun-1998 14:57:03-GMT,2798;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11335 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:57:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03764; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:40:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:35:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03439; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:35:31 -0500 From: pweddle@ntmail.cpsc.gov Message-Id: <9806178980.AA898094229@mailserver.us.cpsc.gov> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 98 10:33:17 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [PDF] email-plugin for Acrobat Reader ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Check www.roundtable.com.au They have a product called RTSjoust that looks like it will do what you want ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] email-plugin for Acrobat Reader ? Author: at INTERNET-MAIL Date: 6/17/98 2:15 AM ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hello, we are building our company intranet using Acrobat exchange. Unfortunately there is no possibility to send a pdf-file as email from within the pdf-file. I?m searching for a plugin that allows all users of our intranet-website to send the pdf by email. Is there a plugin for this purpose ? It is important, that the email-function works with the reader alone and doesn?t depend on exchange. Thanx four your help. Chris === Christoph Ahlers Paderborn, Germany mailto:christoph.ahlers@bertelsmann.de mailto:cahlers@rocketmail.com mailto:r00018@pbhrzs0.uni-paderborn.de _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com 17-Jun-1998 15:49:56-GMT,3118;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13215 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:49:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06860; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:30:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:26:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06590; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:26:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3587E017.C2E4BE7@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:26:15 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf files on the internet References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA06586 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" How are you setting up your directores. On the net, relative directory structure is the rule because absolute directory addressign simply doesn't work? I assume the CD is absolute directory addressing. What needs to be done is to make certain the relative addressing schema matches the absolute of the CD. After that, everything should work out. Bob Moran Myranda Hughes wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > We have created a CD-ROM using Exchange containing hundreds of pages of > linked material. The material is separated into several chapters. We > currently have been trying to post these files to our intranet so the > employees could use the links and search capabilities of the CD-ROM over the > intranet. The problem is that when the files are imported into a web page > content the links no longer work. It gives an invalid page specification > error. > > Any suggestions??? > > Thanks, > > Myranda Hughes > Ontario Systems Corporation > myrandah@ontario.com -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 17-Jun-1998 16:42:49-GMT,3283;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15205 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:42:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09228; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:17:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:11:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08976; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:11:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199806171611.LAA08972@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] plugin for pdf: file-info Date: Wed, 17 Jun 98 12:11:15 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA08973 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" [Christoph Ahlers wrote on 6/17/98 9:57 AM] >Hello, > >as we use pdf-files in our intranet it should >comply to ISO 9000 standards. > >For quality-management we need to have >a version-control of our pdf-files. > >Is there a plugin for Acrobat Exchange >with the following functionality: > >whenever I create a pdf-file (either a new one >or a Word-document converted to pdf) it should >print file-infos about this newly created pdf-document >into this pdf-document. > >For example: >the date and time it was created, >the author who created it, >an incremental number, which can be used for version-control. > >This information should be located as a footer on every page. > >Thanks for any help. > >Regards >Chris > > >=== >Christoph Ahlers >Paderborn, Germany >mailto:christoph.ahlers@bertelsmann.de >mailto:cahlers@rocketmail.com >mailto:r00018@pbhrzs0.uni-paderborn.de Chris, We have taken a different approach to ISO 9000 and SOPs with our DateD plug-in ( pronounced dated ). DateD will dynamically stamp the pages of a document when the PDF file is opened. Information stamped on the document can include the current date/time, file path and any static text as defined by the administrator. DateD consists of two plug-ins; an authoring plug-in and a viewing plug-in. The administrator will define the format and placement of information to appear on the pages of a document and embed that information into the PDF file. An administrator can even create a static message that appears for users who don¹t have the DateD plug-in; for example "Uncontrolled Copy". The documentation for DateD is available on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. Thank you. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com 17-Jun-1998 16:47:12-GMT,2096;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15344 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:47:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10040; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:33:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:29:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09794; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:29:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] plugin for pdf: file-info Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:00:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd9a0c$f049dee0$e15895c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19980617135739.12236.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Is there a plugin for Acrobat Exchange > with the following functionality: > > whenever I create a pdf-file (either a new one > or a Word-document converted to pdf) it should > print file-infos about this newly created pdf-document > into this pdf-document. > > For example: > the date and time it was created, > the author who created it, > an incremental number, which can be used for version-control. > A small point - the data and time of creation and modification are automatically maintained in the Document Info. Aandi 17-Jun-1998 16:54:54-GMT,2307;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15645 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:54:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10489; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:41:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:37:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10230; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:37:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 98 11:27:34 CDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: (Kelly Babbit@inetsvcs@umbkc) Subject: [PDF] UNIX automated printing of FDF - no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Just an FYI for the group. I wanted to print FDF files and their associated PDF forms on an automated basis from a Unix box. Our system had the user filling out a URL encoded form which sent name/value pairs to a Perl script which created various FDF files. In turn we wanted to automatically print the FDF files and associated PDF forms but you can only do it manually and in an X environment. So... the lack of automated printing of forms or batch processing on UNIX pretty much keeps PDF forms a toy in larger Unix-business environments. Here is the response I got from an Adobe Tech: I just received confirmation that Reader/Exchange won't recognize an FDF file from the command line for printing. So you'll definitely have to open it first, and then print it. As for future enhancements, I definitely understand your request and will pass this on to our forms development team. That's the best I can offer for right now. Kelly Babbit Internet Services UMB Bank 17-Jun-1998 22:26:28-GMT,2174;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28017 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:26:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28060; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:12:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:09:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27912; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:09:26 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] UNIX automated printing of FDF - no Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:09:25 +0100 Message-ID: <002701bd9a3c$96e139e0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >So... the lack of automated printing of > forms or batch > processing on UNIX pretty much keeps PDF forms a toy in larger > Unix-business environments. PDFfusion will provide these facilities on Solaris, HP-UX and AIX. For more information contact me off list or check out: www.docctrl.com Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat 17-Jun-1998 22:26:53-GMT,2067;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28026 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:26:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28061; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:12:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:08:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27859; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:08:17 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] email-plugin for Acrobat Reader ? Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:08:16 +0100 Message-ID: <002001bd9a3c$6d883440$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <19980617091508.12423.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > I´m searching for a plugin that allows all > users of our intranet-website to send the > pdf by email. > > Is there a plugin for this purpose ? Check out www.roundtable.com.au drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat 18-Jun-1998 0:32:25-GMT,2346;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02001 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00184; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:18:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:14:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00016; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:14:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:14:42 +1000 X-Sender: hfinger@pa.ausom.net.au Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000101bd9944$69344120$f05695c1@gateway> References: <35866BED.54EB@pit-magnus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hedley Finger Subject: RE: [PDF] Centering type on page Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >> When viewing a PDF file the type on the page sits off centered. There >> is a lot of white space on the left hand side of the page and very >> little space on the right hand side of the page. Is there anyway that >> we can get the type to appear centered on the page when it is viewed? >> >This is not a property of PDF, but of your specific PDF file. It should >be remade with different margins. Or you could use cropping to hide space on the lefthand side and negative cropping values to add space on the righthand side. hedley ====================================================================== Hedley Finger User documentation and publishing consultant Adobe(R) Certified Expert, FrameMaker 5.5 Hand Holding Projects Pty Ltd ACN 007 418 153 28 Regent Street Burwood VIC 3125 Australia Tel +61 3 9809 1229 Fax +61 3 9809 1326 Mobile +61 412 461 558 E-mail hfinger@handholding.com.au 18-Jun-1998 7:21:47-GMT,2100;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26941 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 01:21:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12741; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 02:06:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 02:02:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12602; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 02:02:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:01:29 +1200 (NZST) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000d01bd947e$02ccac80$f05695c1@gateway> References: <000101bd947a$d0c479a0$72946f83@ChrisHamilton.cup.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: [PDF] 2 into 1? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I recently postscripted a tiff file in Pagemaker 6.5.2 and ran rthru distiller. THe page size is 745x500 landscape. On viewing in Acrobat Reader 3.01 it said the page size was correct however the image which takes up all the page was divided into roughly half. The first half appearing first and then the second half over the top. Using powermac 9500 dist 3.0 and I think adobe ps 8.3 tiling off , composite etc.....? :)> andrew ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1998 9:23:15-GMT,2172;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA04341 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 03:23:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA15788; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 03:59:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 03:55:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA15676; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 03:55:47 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:40:04 +0100 Message-ID: <2615-Thu18Jun1998094004+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] UNIX automated printing of FDF - no In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" k_babbit (Kelly Babbit@inetsvcs@umbkc) writes: > Just an FYI for the group. I wanted to print FDF files and their associated > PDF forms on an automated basis from a Unix box. Our system had the > user You are thinking about in the wrong way, IMHO; if you *generate* the PDF forms from a generic markup source (eg XML, or LaTeX), then its easy to either produce blank forms, or filled-in ones by reading the FDF file. OK, generating PDF forms from markup is not trivial, but very doable. I dont know of applications other than TeX which handle it, but then TeX is after all the best PDF application in the world.... Sebastian 18-Jun-1998 10:27:32-GMT,1858;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06070 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 04:27:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA17589; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 05:04:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 05:00:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17476; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 05:00:56 -0500 Message-ID: <19980618095020.6880.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 02:50:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoph Ahlers Subject: [PDF] Acrobat reader: max files open To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hello, if I open different pdf-files in Acrobat reader, I always get the error-message: The max. of files is already open. Before opening or printing other files, you have to close some files. This is very annoying for our users. Some help ? Thanx Chris === Christoph Ahlers Paderborn, Germany mailto:christoph.ahlers@bertelsmann.de mailto:cahlers@rocketmail.com mailto:r00018@pbhrzs0.uni-paderborn.de _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com 18-Jun-1998 12:00:35-GMT,4427;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08261 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:00:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20115; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:31:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:27:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19990; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:27:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:27:40 +0100 From: Huw Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Searching on multi-disk Acrobat CD-ROM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Tom, Thanks for your reply. What worries me about this is that I did try it and it worked - I couldn't believe it, so I sent the question to the list. Just to be clear, here's what I did. On an NT Workstation 4.0 I indexed 6 PDF files with Catalog 3.0 and chose a search query (a single word) that found 3 of the files and checked the results. Then I deleted the 3 search result files and put 3 other files in their place by renaming them. I closed and restarted my reader (Reader with Search 3.01, in fact) and carried out the search again - the same search results were produced and when I viewed the files listed the appropriate (but wrong/renamed) PDF file was displayed with completely the wrong word highlighted (though I guess this word was about the same number of characters into the document, which kind of makes sense from a mapping point of view). What do you (or anyone else/Adobe person) reckon? Am I missing something? Cheers, Huw Johnson Institute of Physics Publishing >Your scheme of substituting dummy PDFs after indexing can't work -- the >search engine will tell you that "the document has been moved or is out of >date" when you try to access it via a Search>Query>View command (try it!) > >Bottom line: There's absolutely no way to index a collection that spans >more than one CD using the tools available from Adobe. A third-party, >proprietary, solution is the only way to do that at this time. > >The easiest way to deal with this, and stay 100% Adobe, is: > > 1. Logically group the data onto separate discs, and train your audience to >know which of the discs is likely to contain the data they need. > - or - > 2. Your users can search multiple discs (one index per disc) with a single >query if they: > 2a. Have an inexpensive CD-ROM changer, or > 2b. Copy one or more of the CDs to their hard drive (when you can buy an >8 GB disk for < $250 at a retail store, why worry about it?) > > >Tom Thiersch > > >At 02:53 PM 6/16/98 +0100, you wrote: >> >>I am producing a simple PDF-driven CD-ROM on which PDF files are indexed with >>Adobe Catalog. Acrobat Readers with Search for the various platforms are also >>included. >> >>My problem is that the PDF data spans two CD-ROMs, so searching is made >>difficult. I assume that users will prefer to search the entire data set despite >>the inevitable changing between the CD-ROMs but I want to keep the search setup >>simple. The best simple system I can come up with is to index all the data, then >>split the data across the two disks and put the search index on both disks. Then >>on each disk include dummy PDF files for all PDF files that reside on the >>*other* disk. These dummy PDF files do no more than prompt the user to insert >>the other disk and click on the Search Results hit again. >>I'm hoping that searching will be enabled irrespective of which CD-ROM is in the >>drive and that the dummy files will be more user-friendly than file not found >>messages. >> >>Can anyone tell me if I'm right or if I'm missing something crucial? All >>comments and suggestions gratefully received. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Huw Johnson >>Institute of Physics Publishing >> 18-Jun-1998 13:05:59-GMT,2124;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10170 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22209; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:33:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:30:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22037; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:30:55 -0500 From: GGR2@chrysler.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHRYSLER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256627.004310E2.00@lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:30:39 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Problems with Power Point presentation in PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" My client has a quite sophisticated Power Point presentation that he wants posted to the company web site. This presentation contains layered graphics and text that moves into position. Conversion to PDF using Distiller has not produced acceptable results. In Acrobat Reader the graphics are fragmented and unreadable and the moving text doesn't move. Since all of our users have Acrobat and are used to PDF format we would very much like to stay within the Adobe environment. We are also finding that the MS Power Point Animation Player plug -in doesn't work well with this presentation either. To date, only the Power Point Viewer 97 plays the presentation as it was designed. I would appreciate any advice anyone might have about a possible solution to this problem. 18-Jun-1998 13:45:38-GMT,2849;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11507 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:45:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24296; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:18:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:16:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24160; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:16:24 -0500 Message-ID: <358912FE.11BC21DC@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:15:42 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Searching on multi-disk Acrobat CD-ROM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Huw Johnson wrote: > > Thanks for your reply. What worries me about this is that I did try it and > it worked - I couldn't believe it, so I sent the question to the list. I think the variable at play here is the "Optimize for CD-ROM" option in Catalog. I remember a post to this list claiming that when this option is checked, Acrobat will not complain about PDF files that have changed since indexing. Found this in the Catalog Online Guide to corroborate: Optimizing for CD-ROM The Optimize for CD-ROM option arranges index files for the fastest possible access on a CD-ROM. [not quite specific enough for me ;^) -Cory] In addition, the option makes it easier for you to modify Document Info fields or security settings after you have indexed a document. Normally, when a user searches a document that has been modified after it was indexed, a message indicates that the document was changed and the user has to choose whether to use the index nevertheless. When you select the option, the message and choice are bypassed. I confirmed this behavior on Windows 95. If I were you, I would probably feel slightly uncomfortable about doing things behind Acrobat's back (i.e. the "switch the PDF file with a placeholder" approach), but I would seek to make myself more comfortable by thoroughly testing on all platforms intended for distribution. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group 18-Jun-1998 13:46:08-GMT,2065;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11515 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24377; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:20:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:18:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24237; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:18:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems with Power Point presentation in PDF Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:11:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bd9abb$67d4c0c0$cf5795c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <85256627.004310E2.00@lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > My client has a quite sophisticated Power Point presentation > that he wants > posted to the company web site. This presentation contains layered > graphics and text that moves into position. Conversion to PDF using > Distiller has not produced acceptable results. In Acrobat Reader the > graphics are fragmented and unreadable and the moving text > doesn't move. > You expect too much. When you make a PDF it is like printing. Does the text move on the printed page? Aandi 18-Jun-1998 14:00:22-GMT,1957;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11946 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:00:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25717; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:42:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:40:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25516; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:40:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:41:20 -0500 To: "'PDF Discussion List'" From: Terry Knee Subject: [PDF] PrinterError: Low Printer VM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hello I am getting the following error when I process a 250 page document "PrinterError: Low Printer VM". Can anyone explain to me what the error means and how I can overcome it ? I am creating the postscript file on a hard disk with over 1 Gig of free space and then converting it to pdf on the same drive, so I do not think the "VM" means virtual memory even though that would be logical. I have created larger pdf's using Distiller 3.01 but recently upgraded to Distiller 3.02. Nothing else has changed in the setup. Could the upgrade be the problem??. Thanks Terry Knee Supervisor, Technical Publications Denharco inc. 18-Jun-1998 14:04:06-GMT,2539;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12030 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:04:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25709; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:42:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:38:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25418; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:38:58 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199806181338.AA05314@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 09:30:07 -0500 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Problems with Power Point presentation in PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" A better way to distribute the .ppt may be a pack-n-go .exe? Corbin ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems with Power Point presentation in PDF Author: at ccnode Date: 6/18/98 9:28 AM ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > My client has a quite sophisticated Power Point presentation > that he wants > posted to the company web site. This presentation contains layered > graphics and text that moves into position. Conversion to PDF using > Distiller has not produced acceptable results. In Acrobat Reader the > graphics are fragmented and unreadable and the moving text > doesn't move. > You expect too much. When you make a PDF it is like printing. Does the text move on the printed page? Aandi 18-Jun-1998 14:28:28-GMT,2507;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12910 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:28:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26908; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:03:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:00:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26634; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:59:59 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PrinterError: Low Printer VM In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:41:20 CDT." Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:59:49 +0100 Message-ID: <27810.898178389@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:41:20 CDT, Terry Knee wrote: > I am getting the following error when I process a 250 page document > "PrinterError: Low Printer VM". Can anyone explain to me what the error > means and how I can overcome it ? I am creating the postscript file on a > hard disk with over 1 Gig of free space and then converting it to pdf on > the same drive, so I do not think the "VM" means virtual memory even though > that would be logical. > > I have created larger pdf's using Distiller 3.01 but recently upgraded to > Distiller 3.02. Nothing else has changed in the setup. Could the upgrade be > the problem??. The printer has virtual memory as well and the message is suggesting that the printer is running out of memory trying to print something complex. You can have small PostScript files that make printers run out of VM, so the size of the file is not an indicator. You could add more memory to the printer, or try to simplify the file somehow. I *think* Adobe removed the ability of Reader (and Exchange) in 3.02 to print Level 1 PostScript; if your printer only has a Level 1 interpreter then you might want to downgrade to 3.01. Chris 18-Jun-1998 14:53:54-GMT,3465;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13710 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:53:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27757; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:22:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:18:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27561; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:18:49 -0500 Message-ID: <358921D5.D36FDB65@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:19:01 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems with Power Point presentation in PDF References: <85256627.004310E2.00@lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA27558 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" The real problem is that Acrobat does not have indivitual object moves. PDF is a page oriented environment that allows for transitions from page to page. Hopefully that will change in 4.0 because the PDF file format is object based and transitions applied to opjects can be done. The only other suggestion would be to work with forms and use buttons with images on them to do elementary object manipulation but that too really isn't a solution. HTH Bob Moran GGR2@chrysler.com wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > My client has a quite sophisticated Power Point presentation that he wants > posted to the company web site. This presentation contains layered > graphics and text that moves into position. Conversion to PDF using > Distiller has not produced acceptable results. In Acrobat Reader the > graphics are fragmented and unreadable and the moving text doesn't move. > Since all of our users have Acrobat and are used to PDF format we would > very much like to stay within the Adobe environment. We are also finding > that the MS Power Point Animation Player plug -in doesn't work well with > this presentation either. To date, only the Power Point Viewer 97 plays > the presentation as it was designed. I would appreciate any advice anyone > might have about a possible solution to this problem. -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 18-Jun-1998 15:11:49-GMT,1887;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14309 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:11:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29131; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:51:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:47:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28898; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:47:20 -0500 Message-ID: <7165A198AD18D111869100805F35071B254981@EXCHANGESERVER> From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Re:Adobe Capture Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:37:42 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" We are doing an evaluation of Adobe Capture and Xerox's Textbridge98 to create OCR databases from paper that can be saved as both .txt files and .pdf. Has anyone used both and can explain why Adobe Capture is so much more expensive with amt. of pages that can be made? Our needs are most for mostly text files. Very little images and probably not much color either. We are leaning towards Textbridge98 but I have limitations as to it's ability to produce adequate .pdf files. Can anyone help? Thanks, Donna R. Meyer LRP Publications, Inc. 18-Jun-1998 17:01:57-GMT,3311;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18371 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:01:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01957; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:40:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:37:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01786; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:37:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re:Adobe Capture Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:40:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Donna: Textbridge does a great job for ASCII, Word, etc, etc... However, it's not well suited to production PDF conversion work. There's no batch processing capability, no OCR correction facility (for PDF output) and no format control for PDF/Normal output. What's more, the PDF's TextBridge makes are somewhat (10-20%) larger than Captured images. The on-screen performance is worse, and there are inconsistant problems with extractable text on PDF/Image+Text files. But... if you must have zoned OCR (which can be critical), or don't care too much about file size, or if production processing is not an issue, TextBridge is great! Hope this helps.... regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010 Oakland, CA 94612 510-986-0250 FAX: 510-986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com www.document-solutions.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Donna Meyer Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 7:38 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Re:Adobe Capture ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" We are doing an evaluation of Adobe Capture and Xerox's Textbridge98 to create OCR databases from paper that can be saved as both .txt files and .pdf. Has anyone used both and can explain why Adobe Capture is so much more expensive with amt. of pages that can be made? Our needs are most for mostly text files. Very little images and probably not much color either. We are leaning towards Textbridge98 but I have limitations as to it's ability to produce adequate .pdf files. Can anyone help? Thanks, Donna R. Meyer LRP Publications, Inc. 18-Jun-1998 17:36:40-GMT,5103;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19648 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:36:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03896; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:19:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:17:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03788; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:17:22 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD9AB9.CD231E60.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re:Adobe Capture Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:05:42 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" There is another alternative which may better suit your needs for both production and output. I utilize to different products depending on the final product. I use Acrobat Capture and Typereader 4.0. For a highspeed production environment Typereader is the way to go, set up a watch folder for your tifs and have it output to another folder. Edit the Documents is Word 97 then you can save as PDF or .txt files. The product does OCR very accurately and at the rate of 7-8 seconds per page. It does a pretty good job on handling the graphics and embedding them in the output ( you will just have to resize the graphic once in Word, it will wrap text etc. automatically based on the original). Capture does the same but the images etc. are in much better condition, the editing is more simple and in tab order, and the formatting is held, however it takes longer per page and there is a cost associated ($540.00 per 21,000 page hardware key) with the latest version which is much better than previously, and designed for production. It is however, SLOWER. Pluses and minuses for each. Regards, Kevin Wagner Operations Manager Small Document Conversion Services Ridgway's -----Original Message----- From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 12:41 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Re:Adobe Capture ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Donna: Textbridge does a great job for ASCII, Word, etc, etc... However, it's not well suited to production PDF conversion work. There's no batch processing capability, no OCR correction facility (for PDF output) and no format control for PDF/Normal output. What's more, the PDF's TextBridge makes are somewhat (10-20%) larger than Captured images. The on-screen performance is worse, and there are inconsistant problems with extractable text on PDF/Image+Text files. But... if you must have zoned OCR (which can be critical), or don't care too much about file size, or if production processing is not an issue, TextBridge is great! Hope this helps.... regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010 Oakland, CA 94612 510-986-0250 FAX: 510-986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com www.document-solutions.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Donna Meyer Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 7:38 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Re:Adobe Capture ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" We are doing an evaluation of Adobe Capture and Xerox's Textbridge98 to create OCR databases from paper that can be saved as both .txt files and .pdf. Has anyone used both and can explain why Adobe Capture is so much more expensive with amt. of pages that can be made? Our needs are most for mostly text files. Very little images and probably not much color either. We are leaning towards Textbridge98 but I have limitations as to it's ability to produce adequate .pdf files. Can anyone help? Thanks, Donna R. Meyer LRP Publications, Inc. 18-Jun-1998 19:55:06-GMT,2922;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24490 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:55:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10256; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:38:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:34:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10028; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:34:35 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 20:26:59 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PrinterError: Low Printer VM Cc: "'PDF Discussion List'" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Terry, this error message means that the "printer" engine of Distiller is running short on resources. As you don't say on what kind of system you are working, there is no specific help. On a Mac, you would assign more memory to Distiller. On a Wintel machine you would make more memory available by quitting other programs before distilling. On UNIX, you probably would quit other processes as well (not quite sure; my UNIX experience is a few years back). Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Hello > >I am getting the following error when I process a 250 page document >"PrinterError: Low Printer VM". Can anyone explain to me what the error >means and how I can overcome it ? I am creating the postscript file on a >hard disk with over 1 Gig of free space and then converting it to pdf on >the same drive, so I do not think the "VM" means virtual memory even though >that would be logical. > >I have created larger pdf's using Distiller 3.01 but recently upgraded to >Distiller 3.02. Nothing else has changed in the setup. Could the upgrade be >the problem??. > >Thanks > >Terry Knee >Supervisor, Technical Publications >Denharco inc. 18-Jun-1998 20:19:02-GMT,1992;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25360 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:19:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11283; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:59:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:57:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11132; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:57:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] IE3 & 4, large PDFs, display problems Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:58:13 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I just sent off an email to Microsoft support. We use IE4, HTML, and PDFs on a CD-ROM product. We are having problems with larger (above 4 MB) PDFs displaying within the browser. What happens is Acrobat Reader is "spawned," and we get a blank white page with no Acrobat toolbar. It looks like the file is loading (or downloading from the CD) then everything stops. This problem does not occur with Netscape, and the files open fine with Acrobat Reader. We're using the latest of everything available, including all patches for Acrobat OCX, etc. We have to use IE, as most of our users work with IE. Any suggestions? 18-Jun-1998 22:06:57-GMT,1735;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29014 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:06:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16240; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:43:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:39:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16025; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:39:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:32:50 -0400 Message-ID: <0018FE26.@doim6.monmouth.army.mil> From: fitch@doim6.monmouth.army.mil (Martin Fitch) Subject: [PDF] Interleaf to pdf To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Any suggestions, please? So far I can go leafdoc ->.pl ->.ps (null PPD) -> distiller (default settings) resulting in many nice little pdf files. When I drag and drop them into Exchange to combine the files to make the book whole, bad things happen ... both on screen and on paper. What is a better process? thanks 18-Jun-1998 22:13:40-GMT,1568;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29214 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:13:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17055; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:58:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:56:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16929; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:56:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3589476A.23B4C7F@interaccess.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:59:26 +0000 From: Christine Longo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] blank pdf References: <357FF589.747E00C6@interaccess.com> <199806121805.LAA02711@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Thank you, that was it! I opened file from the original disk the file read fine. 18-Jun-1998 23:45:22-GMT,2642;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02243 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:45:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20511; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:30:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:27:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20383; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:27:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199806182328.QAA12393@slovakia.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:25:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems with Power Point presentation in PDF From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >The real problem is that Acrobat does not have indivitual object moves. PDF is >a page oriented environment that allows for transitions from page to page. >Hopefully that will change in 4.0 because the PDF file format is object based >and transitions applied to opjects can be done. The only other suggestion >would be to work with forms and use buttons with images on them to do >elementary object manipulation but that too really isn't a solution. HTH > >Bob Moran The only "movement" on a PDF page are: inserted Quicktime movies, page transition effects (under Full Screen Preferences for Full Screen View), and creative use of "hidden fields." "Hidden fields" are interesting (see the second frame of http://www.performancegraphics.com/Media/PDF04.pdf) because they are dynamic. However, in my experience, they are a little too "temperamental" for consistent use. They don't always work in all browsers, and they can hang up... depending on your configuration. But they are fun! C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com 19-Jun-1998 3:09:58-GMT,2862;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07631 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:09:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27612; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:54:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:49:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27379; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:49:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:50:55 -0500 To: "'PDF Discussion List'" , millercs@earthlink.net From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PrinterError: Low Printer VM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Terry, this error message means that the "printer" engine of Distiller is running short on resources. As you don't say on what kind of system you are working, there is no specific help. On a Mac, you would assign more memory to Distiller. On a Wintel machine you would make more memory available by quitting other programs before distilling. On UNIX, you probably would quit other processes as well (not quite sure; my UNIX experience is a few years back). Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Hello > >I am getting the following error when I process a 250 page document >"PrinterError: Low Printer VM". Can anyone explain to me what the error >means and how I can overcome it ? I am creating the postscript file on a >hard disk with over 1 Gig of free space and then converting it to pdf on >the same drive, so I do not think the "VM" means virtual memory even though >that would be logical. > >I have created larger pdf's using Distiller 3.01 but recently upgraded to >Distiller 3.02. Nothing else has changed in the setup. Could the upgrade be >the problem??. > >Thanks > >Terry Knee >Supervisor, Technical Publications >Denharco inc. 19-Jun-1998 13:49:24-GMT,1731;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11945 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:49:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14964; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:22:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:20:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14772; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:20:22 -0500 Message-ID: <000501bd9b84$f26a8f20$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] collating Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:19:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is there a simple way to Collate a bunch of PDFs ? I was using capture to color PDFs but if I told it to Collate, it died in mid processing (big files), so I had to have it create separate PDFs. Now I have 128PDFs that I'd like to combine into one. any ideas? Thanks, Brett 19-Jun-1998 14:03:05-GMT,1569;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12378 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:03:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16381; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:48:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16310; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:48:06 -0500 Message-ID: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073F94BE7@exchptc1.switch.com> From: "Huston, Virgil H." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] FORTE Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:47:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hey y'all, I just tried to purchase Forte and was told I could not buy it. The person I talked to at BCL Computer said it was "being rebundled," but I could not get anything else out of them. Anyone know what is going on? Virgil 19-Jun-1998 17:04:12-GMT,2889;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18385 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:04:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24271; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:45:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:40:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23950; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:40:33 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] collating Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:40:34 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01bd9ba0$fae312a0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000501bd9b84$f26a8f20$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" You can do this by dragging the PDF files onto Exchange. Open Exchange with the thumbnails view open. Drag the PDF file onto the thumbnail pane and let go! drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of brett patane > Sent: 19 June 1998 14:20 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] collating > > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Is there a simple way to Collate a bunch of PDFs ? > I was using capture to color PDFs but if I told it to Collate, it died in > mid processing (big files), so I had to have it create separate > PDFs. Now I > have 128PDFs that I'd like to combine into one. any ideas? > > Thanks, > Brett > 19-Jun-1998 17:41:28-GMT,2882;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19620 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:41:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26212; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:25:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:24:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26144; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:24:18 -0500 Message-ID: <81E713C85DDCD011B2F500805F317CFBF5CB76@xch-rtn-14.ca.boeing.com> From: "Hayhurst, Stephen D" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for June-19-98 [V2 #248] Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:24:08 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" --Steve Hayhurst _______________________________________ Stephen Hayhurst Process & Marketing Support Analyst--CamTek Bldg 10-65.2 26D8 phone: 425.965.1124 or page: 206.986.3048 E-mail: stephen.hayhurst@pss.boeing.com or 2069863048@mobile.att.net Standard Disclaimer applies. > "He's not dead, he's electroencephalographically challenged." > > ---------- > From: > owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com[SMTP:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] > Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 9:40 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: pdf-digest for June-19-98 [V2 #248] > > > pdf-digest Friday, June 19 1998 Volume 02 : > Number 248 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > There are 11 messages totalling 688 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the Day: ... > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Is anyone else tired of looking through, over, and around this at the beginning of EACH message to find what I really came to look at? Rest of digest... ... > End of pdf-digest V2 #248 > ************************* > > > 19-Jun-1998 17:41:48-GMT,1760;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19636 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:41:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25771; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:15:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:15:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25688; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:15:00 -0500 Message-ID: <000501bd9ba5$ba723d40$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] Changing Fonts Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:14:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is there any way to make a permanent font substitution. When I open a certain pdf it tells me that it cannot find a specific font and then it substitutes helvetica for it. Is there any way to make helvetica replace that font permanently (so people won't get an error upon opening it) thanks, Brett 19-Jun-1998 17:54:14-GMT,2423;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20217 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:54:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27046; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:42:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:41:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26963; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:41:38 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD9B77.FD371160@howards.oecmed.com> From: Michael Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Making One PDF from a PageMaker Book of Publications Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:47:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA26960 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Greetings from Salt Lake City! I am a technical writer currently using PageMaker 6.5 to write service documentation. I'm planning on converting my current project to PDF and distributing it on CD when it is complete. The PageMaker manual states that you can generate a single PDF from several PageMaker publications by gathering the publications together using the Utilities>Book command, and then using the File>Export>Adobe PDF command to make the PDF. While I get great results generating a single PDF from a single publication, I can't generate a PDF from a PageMaker book of publications. It looks to me like the Postscript file gets made, but Distiller dies trying to make the PDF and generates an error log file that I can't decipher. I know PageMaker assembles the book of publications because I can generate a full index and TOC without any problems. Any ideas? TIA, Mike Johnson Michaelj@oecmed.com Speaking for myself and not OEC Medical Systems 19-Jun-1998 22:31:02-GMT,2158;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28743 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:31:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05299; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:17:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:15:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05228; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:15:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:11:00 -0400 Message-ID: <00193403.@doim6.monmouth.army.mil> From: fitch@doim6.monmouth.army.mil (Martin Fitch) Subject: [PDF] Wierd PDF To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" hope someone can shed some light on this... The pdf files came from Interleaf, single pages or ranges of pages comprising a book. (I5 via pl2ps and Distiller). All the pdf's seem ok. After merging the files into a single pdf, several pages have a fairly consistent problem: the text is gibberish. This is always (one or two pages) or sometimes (for several others). The weird part is, opening another pdf file (from the same overall job, but not necessarily the source pdf file) can fix this problem, meaning that all the text is displayed correctly. The correction, however, is not permanent; the pages exibit this behavior upon re-opening. Can anyone explain this? thanks very much Martin Fitch 19-Jun-1998 23:04:53-GMT,2279;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29699 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:04:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06444; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:51:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:50:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06375; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:50:16 -0500 From: "Darron Hutchison" To: Subject: [PDF] Automating pdf Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 08:35:40 +1000 Message-ID: <000401bd9bd2$962e5c20$564a17cb@main> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I'm sure this has been discussed before, but being new and not finding any solution in the archives, need to raise the question again. We're generating html pages using macro based scripts (basically xml conversion to html). Is there a simple way to generate pdf docs from the html pages in the same step? What I mean is when we compile a html page, can we automate the pdf generation of the html pages? We're receiving regular requests for pdfs for offline viewing of feature articles (it's a health related site frequented by doctors/med students etc). The xml/html pages are naturally text based, not ps - which is our stumbling block. We're on a NT/win95 network. Any hints, tips and magical solutions greatly appreciated Darron Hutchison Subranna Pty Ltd mailto:darron@subranna.com.au 20-Jun-1998 0:58:22-GMT,2570;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03251 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:58:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09803; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:44:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:41:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09663; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:41:13 -0500 Message-ID: <358B051D.AD100AC8@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:41:02 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing Fonts References: <000501bd9ba5$ba723d40$c04f7fcf@pc-intern2.syrres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA09660 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Embed all fonts for PDF Writer or Distiller will minimize the problem. R. Moran brett patane wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Is there any way to make a permanent font substitution. When I open a > certain pdf it tells me that it cannot find a specific font and then it > substitutes helvetica for it. Is there any way to make helvetica replace > that font permanently (so people won't get an error upon opening it) > > thanks, > Brett -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 20-Jun-1998 12:52:23-GMT,3063;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06565 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 06:52:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29051; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 07:41:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 20 Jun 1998 07:39:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28853; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 07:39:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 07:40:26 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] v.3, n.17 PDFzone *EXTRA* - Acrobat PDF Newsweekly Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" =================================================== V.03, N.017 ***PDFzone EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra61998.html ==================================================== The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + Adobe Acrobat Scores at 1998 World Cup Soccer in France * Sunday's match between U.S. & Iran featured in PDF, multiple languages + Emerge Announces Transfer of Its Software Sales Unit; Survey Posted * Marketing Agreement with OBS; survey to aid PDFzone reconstruction + Summer is a Good Time to Read - With or Without Acrobat Reader * 'Educate the Children' Web site offers PDF posters, bookmarks + Acrobat 3.01 Forms Displayed in Innovative E-Catalog Project * Swiss belt drive distributor chooses, uses PDF as key component + Corel, Adobe Announce New Licensing Agreement for PDF Integration * 'Placed PDF' Library for Corel's graphics and desktop publishing products + Murphy's Laws - Comprehensive Account of Life's Unwritten Rules * Laws in five general categories now written & published in PDF + From the Editor * PDFzone zine takes summer hiatus until after July 4 holiday ... and more. Past issues are available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Subscribe to the email version at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html rgds~Kurt ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20-Jun-1998 17:56:25-GMT,2334;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13416 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:56:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05159; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 12:35:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 20 Jun 1998 12:29:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04764; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 12:29:28 -0500 Message-ID: <358BF201.A41DB7D1@empa.ch> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 19:31:48 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Interleaf to pdf References: <0018FE26.@doim6.monmouth.army.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Martin, Put together and layout your book in QuarkXPress or PageMaker and go from here to PDF. That works great. Erwin Martin Fitch wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Any suggestions, please? > > So far I can go leafdoc ->.pl ->.ps (null PPD) -> distiller (default > settings) > > resulting in many nice little pdf files. > > When I drag and drop them into Exchange to combine the files to make > the book whole, bad things happen ... both on screen and on paper. > > What is a better process? > > > thanks 22-Jun-1998 1:32:30-GMT,1439;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11525 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:32:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21880; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:10:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:57:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21441; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:57:41 -0500 From: DogwoodRec@aol.com Message-ID: <95cf5189.358dabea@aol.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:57:13 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] PLEASE REMOVE ME!!! 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Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] 22-Jun-1998 9:22:20-GMT,2583;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10560 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:22:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02509; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 04:03:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:59:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02310; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:59:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199806220859.KAA10521@mb06.swip.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing Fonts Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 11:00:41 -0000 x-sender: mh46719@house.swip.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Fredrik To: "PDF pdfzone" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA02307 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" patane@syrres.com (brett patane) wrote: >Is there any way to make a permanent font substitution. When I open a >certain pdf it tells me that it cannot find a specific font and then it >substitutes helvetica for it. Is there any way to make helvetica replace >that font permanently (so people won't get an error upon opening it) try Enfocus Pitstop, its great to have when you have font problems in a PDF. in Pitstop you can group text blocks and change font permanently. there is a tryout version (win/mac) downloadable at www.enfocus.com the best way to avoide font problems is to embed all fonts in the distiller when the PDFs are created or use those standard fonts [helvetica and times]. \fred €---------------------------------------------------------------------€ Fredrik Sjögren Graphics R&D Folksam Insurance - tel:+46 8-772 66 36 fredrik.sjogren@swipnet.se S-106 60 Stockholm - fax:+46 8-643 45 91 €­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­€ SeaBranch - types and design +46 70-797 36 29 22-Jun-1998 9:22:23-GMT,2916;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10564 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:22:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02508; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 04:03:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:59:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02286; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:59:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199806220859.KAA10372@mb06.swip.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Automating pdf Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 11:00:30 -0000 x-sender: mh46719@house.swip.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Fredrik To: "PDF pdfzone" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA02283 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" "Darron Hutchison" wrote: [snip] >Is there a simple way to generate pdf docs from the html pages in the same >step? What I mean is when we compile a html page, can we automate the pdf >generation of the html pages? [snip] >The xml/html pages are naturally text based, not ps - which is our stumbling >block. We're on a NT/win95 network. > >Any hints, tips and magical solutions greatly appreciated the original reports/documents are probebly made in a wordprocessor (word, word perfect)? if so, you can use a product from Enfocus. Ferrari (or what it will be called) is soon to hit the market. it convert and check EPS, PS and PDF on teh fly. in your case you can use a postscript driver to "print to file" to a watched folder on a server/client in a network (it is not necesery to be a client/server sollution in a network). Ferrari takes care of the files and makes a PDF. it does nerly the same as Adobe Acrobat Destiller, but it is moore controllable and it is scritable. look at www.enfocus.com \fred €---------------------------------------------------------------------€ Fredrik Sjögren Graphics R&D Folksam Insurance - tel:+46 8-772 66 36 fredrik.sjogren@swipnet.se S-106 60 Stockholm - fax:+46 8-643 45 91 €­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­€ SeaBranch - types and design +46 70-797 36 29 22-Jun-1998 12:23:27-GMT,3538;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14445 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:23:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07224; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:59:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:56:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07091; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:56:42 -0500 Message-ID: <7165A198AD18D111869100805F35071B254986@EXCHANGESERVER> From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automating pdf Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:46:28 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA07088 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Interesting product. Can someone let us know when this is available? > -----Original Message----- > From: Fredrik [SMTP:fredrik.sjogren@swipnet.se] > Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 7:01 AM > To: PDF pdfzone > Subject: Re: [PDF] Automating pdf > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > "Darron Hutchison" wrote: > > [snip] > >Is there a simple way to generate pdf docs from the html pages in the > same > >step? What I mean is when we compile a html page, can we automate the > pdf > >generation of the html pages? > [snip] > >The xml/html pages are naturally text based, not ps - which is our > stumbling > >block. We're on a NT/win95 network. > > > >Any hints, tips and magical solutions greatly appreciated > > the original reports/documents are probebly made in a wordprocessor > (word, word perfect)? > if so, you can use a product from Enfocus. Ferrari (or what it will be > called) is soon to hit the market. it convert and check EPS, PS and > PDF on teh fly. > in your case you can use a postscript driver to "print to file" to a > watched folder on a server/client in a network (it is not necesery to > be a client/server sollution in a network). Ferrari takes care of the > files and makes a PDF. it does nerly the same as Adobe Acrobat > Destiller, but it is moore controllable and it is scritable. > > look at www.enfocus.com > > \fred > > €--------------------------------------------------------------------- > € > Fredrik Sjögren Graphics R&D Folksam Insurance - tel:+46 8-772 66 36 > fredrik.sjogren@swipnet.se S-106 60 Stockholm - fax:+46 8-643 45 91 > > €€ > SeaBranch - types and design > +46 70-797 36 29 22-Jun-1998 13:18:33-GMT,5597;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16030 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:18:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09310; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:56:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:54:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09194; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:54:23 -0500 Message-Id: <9806221211.AA03107@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller Job options settings Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 08:18:19 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Dan Johnston wrote: >Does distiller 3.01 create a "preferences file" which would store the >distilling options I have set. yes - but you cannot rename it, and I believe it only works on the platform that it was created on - not sure if you can give a PC user a Mac Adobe Acrobat Preference file... >I would like to be able to forward that >file to individuals who will be sending PDF's to us so that our correct >settings are used for downsampling and font embedding. I think a better way is to give them a PostScript file that they can place in the Distiller "Startup" folder. I have a web site that goes over this and a few other things, (www.jahn.org) but here it is in email: Although one may argue that there is no such thing as "proper Distiller Settings" - (if there were, the Distiller job options dialog boxes would be much simpler!) - the following PostScript code can be used to automatically set all of the Adobe Acrobat Distiller applications Job options to specific settings - the text below can be copied and pasted into a Apple SimpleText file or a PC Text editior - save this (name does not matter) into the folder inside of the folder that Distiller was installed into inside a folder named "Startup" - and when you restart Distiller, it will reset all the Distiller Job Options to settings commonly used by many high end prepress proffesionals. good luck. <--start snip below this text ---> (Michael Jahns Distiller setup version 5.2 is in use. Don't forget to turn on the Distill with prologue.ps/epilogue.ps option. This is in the advanced job options menu of Adobe's Acrobat Distiller.) == flush (The files prologue.ps / epilogue.ps must be in the same folder as Adobe Acrobat Distiller in order to preserve color space models.) == flush %%Following section coded by Michael Jahn %%Agfa PDF Evangelist. %%These settings force Distiller to use only the High Resolution %%options when creating a PDF v1.2. %% Special thanks to David Warren at Quebecor and Gary Cosimini at Adobe %%Email questions to mikejahn@jahn.com %%for more info, go to www.jahn.org %%General Job Options tab setup << /HWResolution [2400 2400] /PageSize [648 864] %%NOTE: The above sets the page size to 9 inches by 12 inches %% To change this, enter the witdth and height in points >> setpagedevice << /ASCII85EncodePages false /AutoRotatePages /None /CompatibilityLevel 1.2 /CompressPages true %%/DoThumbnails false %%/ImageMemory %%/LZWEncodePages true %% Compression Job Options tab setup %%Color Images << %%/AntiAliasColorImages false /AutoFilterColorImages false /DownsampleColorImages true /EncodeColorImages true %%/ColorACSImageDict %%/ColorImageDepth -1 /ColorImageDict << /QFactor 0.1 /HSamples [1 1 1 1] /VSamples [1 1 1 1] >> /ColorImageDownsampleType /Average /ColorImageFilter /DCTEncode /ColorImageResolution 400 >> setdistillerparams %%Grayscale Images << %%/AntiAliasGrayImages false /AutoFilterGrayImages false /DownsampleGrayImages true /EncodeGrayImages true %%/GrayACSImageDict %%/GrayImageDepth -1 /GrayImageDict << /QFactor 0.1 /HSamples [1 1 1 1] /VSamples [1 1 1 1] >> /GrayImageDownsampleType /Average /GrayImageFilter /DCTEncode /GrayImageResolution 400 >> setdistillerparams %%Monochrome Images << %%/AntiAliasMonoImages false /DownsampleMonoImages true /EncodeMonoImages true %%/MonoImageDepth -1 %%/MonoImageDict /MonoImageDownsampleType /Average /MonoImageFilter /CCITTFaxEncode /MonoImageResolution 1200 >> setdistillerparams %%Font Embedding Job Options tab setup << /EmbedAllFonts true /SubsetFonts true /MaxSubsetPct 99 >> setdistillerparams %%Advanced Job Options tab setup << /ConvertCMYKImagesToRGB false /PreserveOPIComments true /PreserveOverprintSettings true /PreserveHalftoneInfo true /TransferFunctionInfo /Apply /UCRandBGInfo /Preserve /UseFlateCompression true /ConvertImagesToIndexed false /ColorConversionStrategy /LeaveColorUnchanged >> setdistillerparams %%EOF <--end snip above this text ---> Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 22-Jun-1998 13:21:59-GMT,5028;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16142 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:21:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09369; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:57:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:55:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09259; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:55:42 -0500 Message-Id: <9806221139.AA01213@atla3> Subject: [PDF] Downsampling and image type Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 07:46:30 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Shane Steinman wrote: > Word of caution... JPEG-encoded EPS files are not compatible with all > imaging systems (not even all PS Level 2 versions). This won't matter > much if the destination is PDF and, best of all, the JPEG compression in > Photoshop, when set to Maximum Quality, is clean and SMALL! great post about using Quark with eps Jpegs - I thought I would share some related testing results I did recently. I have had several of you email me concerning how Adobe Distiller creates and or modifies images - and if there are any advantages or benifits (Distillation time, resulting PDF file size) of building documents with a particular type of image. As I had not tested this, well, all I could say is "heck if I know" - but I don't think it matters one bit - they should all be the same" - But as i am paid to be a PDF evangelist - that was a pretty wussy excuse - so i performed the following test. Using Adobe PhotoShop, a saved a single image file in the following formats: 1117k Scitex CT 1116k Tiff 854k Tiff with LZW encoding 1399k EPS with Binary data encoding 269k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting. I then placed each in a separated (but identical) Quark XPress document and saved each page as an eps: 1100k Scitex CT Quark XPress page saved as eps 1100k Tiff Quark XPress page saved as eps 1100k Tiff with LZW encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps 1400k EPS with Binary data encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps 368k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting) Quark XPress page as eps. I then Distilled each of these PDF files using identcal Distiller settings - in particular, In the Distiller Job Options compression dialog box, I used Manual compression selecting JPEG low (amount). 644k Scitex CT saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format 644k Tiff saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format 644k Tiff with LZW encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format 644k EPS with Binary data encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format 598k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format I am not actually certain why the eps that was made with the JPEG encoding is slightly smaller -(technically, it should not be) - possibly it fell under the block space of my hard drive - maybe not - one of our engineers explained that the disk overhead (read/write) may account for the speed (Distiiler must read, write a scratch file, write out a new PDF file, then compress it in memory I suppose) - The result is that it does not make a PDF file larger or smaller if you use on image file format over another - execpt eps with jpeg encoding. The time to distil each of these eps files did vary, but not by much: 33 seconds Scitex CT Quark XPress page saved as eps 31 seconds Tiff Quark XPress page saved as eps 31 seconds Tiff with LZW encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps 38 seconds EPS with Binary data encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps 29 seconds EPS with JPEG encoding (with "Maximum Quality" setting Quark XPress page as eps. So as Roseanne a dan a danna said - it just goes to show ya - its always something. if its not one thing, its another. So i guess using (and Distilling) eps with jpeg data encoding is smaller and faster. size does matter. *smile* Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 22-Jun-1998 14:13:23-GMT,3897;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17665 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:13:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11734; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:49:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:43:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11401; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:43:31 -0500 Message-ID: <358E5F56.AE9E82ED@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:42:46 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: shane@archangel.net Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type References: <9806221139.AA01213@atla3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" mjahn wrote: > > [...] > > I then Distilled each of these PDF files using identcal Distiller > settings - in particular, In the Distiller Job Options compression dialog > box, I used Manual compression selecting JPEG low (amount). > > 644k Scitex CT saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > 644k Tiff saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > 644k Tiff with LZW encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > 644k EPS with Binary data encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF > format > 598k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting > saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > > I am not actually certain why the eps that was made with the JPEG > encoding is slightly smaller -(technically, it should not be) - possibly > it fell under the block space of my hard drive - maybe not - one of our > engineers explained that the disk overhead (read/write) may account for > the speed (Distiiler must read, write a scratch file, write out a new PDF > file, then compress it in memory I suppose) - No, I suspect the size difference is due to applying (lossy) JPEG compression *twice* on that copy of the image (once in PhotoShop, again in Distiller), resulting in greater data compression but also greater data loss. Remember, "maximum quality" does not imply "lossless". To complete your test, you might somehow extract the raster image from all the resulting PDF files, and I bet you will find they are all identical with the except of the latter, which will be slightly smaller and also somewhat more muddy in areas of high contrast. > The result is that it does not make a PDF file larger or smaller if you > use on image file format over another - execpt eps with jpeg encoding. I would agree with that because the Distiller probably normalizes all formats to a common representation before doing its work. > So i guess using (and Distilling) eps with jpeg data encoding is smaller > and faster. size does matter. As your engineer said, this could easily be dependent on file system access speeds (for a smaller file), or any of a number of variables. Regardless, the differences in processing time are insignificant enough (in my mind) to lead someone to use one format over another for that reason alone. The policy I follow when using lossy compressions of any type is to apply them once and once only, and always at the end of the process. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group 22-Jun-1998 14:38:08-GMT,1651;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18503 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:38:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13914; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:38:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:34:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13729; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:34:48 -0500 Message-ID: <358E6D4A.C9393809@aristesoftware.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:42:18 -0700 From: Todd Cary X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdf Developers Subject: [PDFdev] Faxing pictures Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ For what it is worth, I have found a simple way to fax photos - right under my nose (or should I say keyboard). I export the picture to Acrobat from Photo Delux or PhotoShop and then bring the image up in the PdfReader and print it to the MS Fax. Always open for a better way, however.......... -- Todd Cary Ariste Software todd@aristesoftware.com 22-Jun-1998 15:08:13-GMT,2627;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19409 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:08:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14224; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:44:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:40:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14023; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:40:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:41:28 -0500 From: djohanne@comcom.com (Deb Johannes) Message-Id: <199806221441.JAA00718@satsun05.comcom.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Interleaf to pdf X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" There are a number of things to keep in mind when you convert Interleaf to PDF. But it can work great. We have processed many thousands of pages with complex linking, etc from Ileaf to pdf. DO NOT, as one person suggested, think that you have to re-do your docs in Quark or PageMaker. The value you can get in working in Ileaf for complex doc creation more than makes up for the extra care you need to use to get good pdf. Without knowing more specifics about your situation, a couple of things come to mind. Was your doc set created as a book, using inter-doc links? If so, those links expect to follow a path from origination to destination. Merging the pdf docs destroys that. Try processing the whole book to pl instead of processing individual docs. Be sure you are using the version of pl2ps filter which enables pdf markup. There can be other things to watch out for, depending on what bad things you were referring to and on what other complexities you have built into your Ileaf. If you would like, feel free to contact me off line regarding more questions on details of your problem. Regards; Deb Johannes COMMERCIAL COMMUNICATIONS, INC. (CCI) 1225 Walnut Ridge Dr., Hartland, WI 53029 ___________________________________________ PHONE: 414-369-6000 or 1-800-DOCUTEC FAX: 414-369-5647 E-MAIL: djohanne@comcom.com ______________________________________ 22-Jun-1998 15:08:36-GMT,3980;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19416 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:08:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14227; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:44:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:40:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14058; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:40:27 -0500 Message-ID: <358E6C47.7A05FE32@aip.org> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:37:59 -0400 From: Chris Hamlin Organization: American Institute of Physics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: shane@archangel.net Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type References: <9806221139.AA01213@atla3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" mjahn wrote: > > ... < some stuff deleted > ... > > Using Adobe PhotoShop, a saved a single image file in the following > formats: > > 1117k Scitex CT > 1116k Tiff > 854k Tiff with LZW encoding > 1399k EPS with Binary data encoding > 269k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting. > > I then placed each in a separated (but identical) Quark XPress document > and saved each page as an eps: > > 1100k Scitex CT Quark XPress page saved as eps > 1100k Tiff Quark XPress page saved as eps > 1100k Tiff with LZW encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps > 1400k EPS with Binary data encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps > 368k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting) > Quark XPress page as eps. > > I then Distilled each of these PDF files using identcal Distiller > settings - in particular, In the Distiller Job Options compression dialog > box, I used Manual compression selecting JPEG low (amount). > > 644k Scitex CT saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > 644k Tiff saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > 644k Tiff with LZW encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > 644k EPS with Binary data encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF > format > 598k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting > saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > > I am not actually certain why the eps that was made with the JPEG > encoding is slightly smaller -(technically, it should not be) - possibly > it fell under the block space of my hard drive - maybe not - one of our > engineers explained that the disk overhead (read/write) may account for > the speed (Distiiler must read, write a scratch file, write out a new PDF > file, then compress it in memory I suppose) - > > The result is that it does not make a PDF file larger or smaller if you > use on image file format over another - execpt eps with jpeg encoding. Could it be that this is because of jpeg's lossy nature? Less information would seem to imply that the file would be smaller when (re)compressed. In other words, except for the file that was originally compressed with jpeg, Distiller is working with the original data. Once you compress with jpeg you are losing something, even if just a little (i.e., ``maximum quality''). > > ... < some other stuff deleted> ... Chris Hamlin American Institute of Physics, 500 Sunnyside Blvd, Woodbury, NY 11797-2999 Internet: chamlin@aip.org Phone: 516/576-2335 FAX: 516/349-7669 22-Jun-1998 15:15:45-GMT,1412;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19726 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:15:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14662; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:52:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:47:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14428; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:47:56 -0500 From: april.price@srs.gov Message-Id: <199806221446.AA10760@gateway1.srs.gov> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" When creating a PDF using Exchange, is there any way to select all of the bookmarks and copy them to another PDF? Thanks, avp 22-Jun-1998 15:20:11-GMT,2660;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19893 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:20:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15163; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:58:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:55:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14889; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:54:59 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD9DCC.2BED40A0.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for June-20-98 [V2 #249] Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:54:45 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" All - I'm experiencing a weird problem when scanning two-sided doc's using Capture. Part A: after scanning the 'Front Side' of a stack from the scanner/SDF, the ensuing dialog which pops up after the last page shows the 'Back Side' button but is grayed out. Part B: if we 'Finish' and then restart scanning, but choose 'Back Side', begining with the correct ending number from the front scan, the 'last' page (the first page of the back side of the stack) consistently scans twice, then throws off the page count for the rest of the stack. A workaround is to 'Finish', then restart, using the ending page number + 1, but should be unnecessary. Alternatively, we could begin with the 'Back Side' if we count the stack first. This happens consistently, and I can't find any setting (scanner or other, in Capture) which appears to affect this. What make this more weird is that we did this feature did work correctly the first couple of times we used it, on another machine (actually the same PC, but different, removable drive) with the same copy of Capture. Does anyone have any insight? Thanks a bunch. I posted this on the Capture list, but since that seems to have far less activity than this one ... Mark Mark Stephenson SoftWare Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com 22-Jun-1998 15:43:00-GMT,1728;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20674 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:42:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16789; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:19:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:15:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16452; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:15:55 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:37:59 EDT." <358E6C47.7A05FE32@aip.org> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:15:48 +0100 Message-ID: <3206.898528548@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:37:59 EDT, Chris Hamlin wrote: > mjahn wrote: > In other words, except for the file that was originally compressed with > jpeg, Distiller is working with the original data. Once you compress with > jpeg you are losing something, even if just a little (i.e., ``maximum > quality''). I thought JPEG compression with 100% quality (ie a QFactor of 0) was lossless. Chris 22-Jun-1998 16:01:34-GMT,2245;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21315 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:01:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18683; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:48:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:45:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18408; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:45:19 -0500 Message-ID: <358E7B7F.A2E8BB6@aip.org> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:42:55 -0400 From: Chris Hamlin Organization: American Institute of Physics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type References: <3206.898528548@isode.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Chris Ridd wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:37:59 EDT, Chris Hamlin wrote: > > mjahn wrote: > > In other words, except for the file that was originally compressed with > > jpeg, Distiller is working with the original data. Once you compress with > > jpeg you are losing something, even if just a little (i.e., ``maximum > > quality''). > > I thought JPEG compression with 100% quality (ie a QFactor of 0) was > lossless. > > Chris I don't think so. Take a look at http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/jpeg-faq/part1/faq-doc-13.html Note that I'm not saying you will _see_ the difference. That is a different question. -- Chris Hamlin American Institute of Physics, 500 Sunnyside Blvd, Woodbury, NY 11797-2999 Internet: chamlin@aip.org Phone: 516/576-2335 FAX: 516/349-7669 22-Jun-1998 16:02:48-GMT,1760;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21358 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:02:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18576; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:47:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:43:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18308; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:43:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:44:58 -0500 From: djohanne@comcom.com (Deb Johannes) Message-Id: <199806221544.KAA01054@satsun05.comcom.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] re:interleaf to pdf X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Mike Dowden at Oneil, asked offline where to get the pl2ps filter. The pl2ps filter has always been part of the Ileaf package. It was upgraded awhile back to support markup that allows links, etc. to export successfully. (Packages like Distiller can then interpret them to recreate the links.) That upgrade is still part of the Ileaf package, but since not everyone, even today, has upgraded their packages, it is possible that some users may still have pl2ps filter that does not export markup. Regards; Deb Johannes 22-Jun-1998 16:34:23-GMT,2127;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22652 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:34:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19982; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:11:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:07:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19733; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:07:23 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:42:55 EDT." <358E7B7F.A2E8BB6@aip.org> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:07:15 +0100 Message-ID: <3321.898531635@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:42:55 EDT, Chris Hamlin wrote: > Chris Ridd wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:37:59 EDT, Chris Hamlin wrote: > > > mjahn wrote: > > > In other words, except for the file that was originally compressed with > > > jpeg, Distiller is working with the original data. Once you compress with > > > jpeg you are losing something, even if just a little (i.e., ``maximum > > > quality''). > > > > I thought JPEG compression with 100% quality (ie a QFactor of 0) was > > lossless. > > > > Chris > > I don't think so. Take a look at > > > http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/jpeg-faq/part1/faq-doc-13.html > > Note that I'm not saying you will _see_ the difference. That is a different > question. Thanks for the URL, you're quite right. Chris 22-Jun-1998 19:01:37-GMT,1633;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28233 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:01:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28607; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:43:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:38:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28294; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:38:22 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980622183847.00d7eaf8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:38:47 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: [PDF] 'Display Page to Edge' setting? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Does anyone know what the Acrobat Exchange/Reader Preference setting 'Display Page to Edge' is supposed to do? It's not documented in the On-Line Guide, and it doesn't seem to change the appearance of the documents I view. Just curious. Tom Thiersch 22-Jun-1998 19:21:07-GMT,1716;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28840 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:21:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30079; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:10:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:06:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29830; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:06:14 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01bd9e1a$08e36320$0900a8c0@RANDALL> From: "Randy Chamzuk" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF OCX Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:12:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am currently on version 3.0.1, I noticed I need to download the PDF OCX update driver to allow byteserving in MSIE 4.0. Is there a version of Reader that has this update already? Randy Chamzuk Quick - Draw Inc. Ph: 466-2535 Fax: 469-8407 Toll free: 1-888-777-2535 22-Jun-1998 19:31:28-GMT,2004;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29144 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:31:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30303; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:16:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:12:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30137; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:12:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] IE and large PDFs Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:13:50 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I have sent and received a message from Microsoft on the current ActiveX module that opens Acrobat documents within Internet Explorer. There seems to be a problem with larger files opening/displaying in the browser, period. I have e-mailed numerous users with the same problem that are using IE as an interface for CDs that contain HTML and PDFs. None of these problems occur with Netscape. If anyone form Adobe is listening - can we expect an updated version of "the pieces" that make Acrobat work with Internet Explorer? Is this just a problem that will not be fixed until Acrobat 4 or IE5? Bytheway, I am using the latest of all browsers, plug-ins, readers, and patches. 22-Jun-1998 20:15:49-GMT,5927;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00692 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:15:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA32390; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:58:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:53:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA32138; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:53:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980622203226.007aa100@mail.tim.se> X-Sender: tim-jl@mail.tim.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:32:26 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "johan.leide" Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type In-Reply-To: <9806221139.AA01213@atla3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I've performed similar tests and it ended fairly much the same. An interesting point is that I have never been able to color separate EPS JPEG in one file mode. Only if I turn on the DCS option in Photoshop it comes out in a correct way. If I separate a EPS JPEG into Distiller I end up with a visable colour image on plate number one (I think its Cyan= and then the rest of the separations are blank allthough the image is there but it's masked and still in colour mode (diagnosed the problem/feature with PitStop). My point of view is that it probably is Photoshop EPS JPEG (not DCS) files that is not behaving correct or Quark that has a bug! BR Johan Leide >> Word of caution... JPEG-encoded EPS files are not compatible with all >> imaging systems (not even all PS Level 2 versions). This won't matter >> much if the destination is PDF and, best of all, the JPEG compression in >> Photoshop, when set to Maximum Quality, is clean and SMALL! > >great post about using Quark with eps Jpegs - I thought I would share >some related testing results I did recently. > >I have had several of you email me concerning how Adobe Distiller creates >and or modifies images - and if there are any advantages or benifits >(Distillation time, resulting PDF file size) of building documents with a >particular type of image. > >As I had not tested this, well, all I could say is "heck if I know" - but >I don't think it matters one bit - they should all be the same" - > >But as i am paid to be a PDF evangelist - that was a pretty wussy excuse >- so i performed the following test. > >Using Adobe PhotoShop, a saved a single image file in the following >formats: > >1117k Scitex CT >1116k Tiff > 854k Tiff with LZW encoding >1399k EPS with Binary data encoding > 269k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting. > >I then placed each in a separated (but identical) Quark XPress document >and saved each page as an eps: > >1100k Scitex CT Quark XPress page saved as eps >1100k Tiff Quark XPress page saved as eps >1100k Tiff with LZW encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps >1400k EPS with Binary data encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps > 368k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting) >Quark XPress page as eps. > >I then Distilled each of these PDF files using identcal Distiller >settings - in particular, In the Distiller Job Options compression dialog >box, I used Manual compression selecting JPEG low (amount). > > 644k Scitex CT saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > 644k Tiff saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > 644k Tiff with LZW encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > 644k EPS with Binary data encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF >format > 598k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting >saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > >I am not actually certain why the eps that was made with the JPEG >encoding is slightly smaller -(technically, it should not be) - possibly >it fell under the block space of my hard drive - maybe not - one of our >engineers explained that the disk overhead (read/write) may account for >the speed (Distiiler must read, write a scratch file, write out a new PDF >file, then compress it in memory I suppose) - > >The result is that it does not make a PDF file larger or smaller if you >use on image file format over another - execpt eps with jpeg encoding. > >The time to distil each of these eps files did vary, but not by much: > >33 seconds Scitex CT Quark XPress page saved as eps >31 seconds Tiff Quark XPress page saved as eps >31 seconds Tiff with LZW encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps >38 seconds EPS with Binary data encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps >29 seconds EPS with JPEG encoding (with "Maximum Quality" setting Quark >XPress page as eps. > >So as Roseanne a dan a danna said - it just goes to show ya - its always >something. if its not one thing, its another. > >So i guess using (and Distilling) eps with jpeg data encoding is smaller >and faster. size does matter. > >*smile* > > > >Michael Jahn >PDF Evangelist >Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation >200 Ballardvale Street >MS 200-4-5H >Wilmington, MASS >01887-1069 >P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 >F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) >E: mikejahn@jahn.com >E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com >I: www.jahn.org > > Johan Leide Teknik i Media 040-97 33 10 0706-72 00 35 Http://www.tim.se johan.leide@tim.se 22-Jun-1998 20:22:14-GMT,2368;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00919 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:22:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00452; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:10:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:06:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00174; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:06:38 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] 'Display Page to Edge' setting? Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:57:17 +0100 Message-ID: <001501bd9e19$268281a0$105995c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980622183847.00d7eaf8@env-sol.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Does anyone know what the Acrobat Exchange/Reader Preference setting > 'Display Page to Edge' is supposed to do? > > It's not documented in the On-Line Guide, and it doesn't seem > to change the > appearance of the documents I view. More or less, it means "ignore rectangular clipping paths found before the first page marking operator". Why is it there? Because older Acrobat Readers would do this. Therefore, nobody would notice that the PDF they had produced actually had cut off margins. My advice, never use this option, ESPECIALLY if the margins are not visible. Fix the PDF. This is especially important for pre-press work; you want the screen to reflect what will print, not hide problems you will see when printed. Aandi 22-Jun-1998 22:05:57-GMT,1799;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03346 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:05:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04620; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:46:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:39:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04280; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:39:07 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for June-20-98 [V2 #249] Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:29:21 -0400 x-sender: rspeidel@mailbox.cjp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Rusty Speidel To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1313585960-11428176@mailbox.cjp.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I will be out of the office from June 22 through June 26. I will address your message when I return. If this is a matter that requires immediate attention, please contact Damon Lincourt, our systems manager, at dlincourt@cjp.com. Thanks, Rusty Speidel ================================== Russell Speidel Director, Medical Multimedia Ph: 804.979.4913 Fax: 804.979.4025 rspeidel@cjp.com ================================== 22-Jun-1998 22:09:48-GMT,1789;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03426 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:09:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05057; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:58:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:54:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04888; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:54:16 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271C7359@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printer Settings for HP4000N Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:45:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" We have a collection of PDFs that were distilled from Quark for Macintosh files, that some of my PC users are complaining about printout quality on. The grayscale photos are coming across very "wavy." The most recent complaint came from an HP4000N user. Any suggestions in remdying this, post distilling? Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com 22-Jun-1998 22:29:36-GMT,2830;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03872 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:29:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05942; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:15:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:11:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05744; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:11:16 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: "PDF mailing list - technical" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automating pdf Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:11:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bd9e2a$ad0bf920$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Darron Hutchison wrote: > We're generating html pages using macro based scripts (basically xml > conversion to html). > > Is there a simple way to generate pdf docs from the html pages in the same > step? What I mean is when we compile a html page, can we automate the pdf > generation of the html pages? We're receiving regular requests > for pdfs for > offline viewing of feature articles (it's a health related site frequented > by doctors/med students etc). > > The xml/html pages are naturally text based, not ps - which is > our stumbling > block. We're on a NT/win95 network. I understand that this should be possible using our the command line interface with our Local Render product. Basically you would "throw" the HTML file at Local Render and specify the PDF file output name. Local Render is based around MS word so you should get the quality of HTML which you get if you opened one of the files in Word. For more information contact me directly or seek out: www.docctrl.com Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat 23-Jun-1998 0:33:10-GMT,1770;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06381 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:33:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10103; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:17:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:12:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09901; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:12:56 -0500 Message-ID: <358EF394.1BC96C73@nng.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:15:44 +1000 From: Rod Peno Organization: NNG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automating pdf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <000f01bd9e2a$ad0bf920$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" hi, I'm working on an Intranet project that will make extensive use of PDF.Any general tips or advice would be great. - The source material is approx 1000 Word documents. - I'm particularly interested in streamlining the conversion process and searchability once on the Intranet. rod peno designer | nethead nemas http://www.nng.net 23-Jun-1998 0:34:34-GMT,1875;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06439 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:34:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10406; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:23:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:19:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10223; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:19:54 -0500 Message-ID: <358EF536.3B917764@nng.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:22:42 +1000 From: Rod Peno Organization: NNG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf search X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <000f01bd9e2a$ad0bf920$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" hi, Could someone offer confirmation on this please- PDFs viewed in a browser do not have the search function available - via an Acrobat Catalog index? *Using Reader 3.0 our Macs here have the search button and use the Catalog Index but seems to go via Exchange???? (Exchange loads and is active during the search) The PCs don't seem to have the search function available at all. thanks! rod peno designer | nethead nemas http://www.nng.net 23-Jun-1998 2:07:50-GMT,2816;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08104 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:07:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13634; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:52:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:48:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13445; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:48:23 -0500 Message-ID: <358F0973.ADAD9854@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:48:35 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf search References: <000f01bd9e2a$ad0bf920$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> <358EF536.3B917764@nng.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA13442 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" You have to open Reader directly on either platform as the plug-in does not include the Search function. This will be changed in 4.0. Bob Moran Rod Peno wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > hi, > > Could someone offer confirmation on this please- > > PDFs viewed in a browser do not have the search function available - via > an Acrobat Catalog index? > > *Using Reader 3.0 our Macs here have the search button and use the Catalog > Index but seems to go via Exchange???? (Exchange loads and is active during > the search) > > The PCs don't seem to have the search function available at all. > > thanks! > > rod peno > designer | nethead nemas > http://www.nng.net -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 23-Jun-1998 2:08:00-GMT,2706;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08108 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:07:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13635; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:52:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:47:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13369; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:47:05 -0500 Message-ID: <358F0924.B84A9AAB@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:47:16 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automating pdf References: <000f01bd9e2a$ad0bf920$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> <358EF394.1BC96C73@nng.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA13364 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" It depends on how you are going to use Distiller and Catalog as both apps are ideally suited for batch processing and network operations. Bob Moran Rod Peno wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > hi, > > I'm working on an Intranet project that will make extensive use > of PDF.Any general tips or advice would be great. > > - The source material is approx 1000 Word documents. > - I'm particularly interested in streamlining the conversion > process and searchability once on the Intranet. > > rod peno > designer | nethead nemas > http://www.nng.net -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 23-Jun-1998 4:02:18-GMT,1769;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10209 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:02:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17559; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:44:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:39:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17429; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:39:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199806230339.AA13900@tmpil001.tmp.allied.com> From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Meaning of Bad Bounding Box message? Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:38:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hi PDFer's An excel spreadsheet (Win 95 version) was distilled, and in paging by a certain page, this message is displayed in a Reader alert stickup: - - The font "TimesNewRoman" contains a bad /BBox - - There is a little Turbo Cad graphic pasted into the original Excel file, and this appears to have text callouts skewed. This is not my file, so I'm not sure exactly what's wrong. Any initial thoughts on the message? thx - Rebecca 23-Jun-1998 7:12:23-GMT,2094;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26172 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:12:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22748; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:48:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22582; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:48:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199806230648.IAA05427@mb06.swip.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Automating pdf - Ferrari Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 08:50:13 -0000 x-sender: mh46719@house.swip.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Fredrik To: "PDF pdfzone" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA22579 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Donna Meyer wrote: >Interesting product. Can someone let us know when this is available? I have talked to Enfocus and Ferrari is allmost ready to launch, perhaps in a few weeks. \fred €---------------------------------------------------------------------€ Fredrik Sjögren Graphics R&D Folksam Insurance - tel:+46 8-772 66 36 fredrik.sjogren@swipnet.se S-106 60 Stockholm - fax:+46 8-643 45 91 €­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­€ SeaBranch - types and design +46 70-797 36 29 23-Jun-1998 7:12:53-GMT,2122;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26304 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:12:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23007; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:01:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:58:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22868; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:58:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199806230656.IAA175732@aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be> X-Sender: u015458@pop3.mailst.ulg.ac.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:53:19 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Annick Delanaye Subject: [PDF] Printing errors with PostScript printers In-Reply-To: <199806230147.UAA13389@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hello Everybody, I am new at pdf and have not finding a solution anywhere so I apologize and ask the following : I am working on Windows NT4 wit Adobe Acrobat 3.01. When printing pdf files( which come from Microsoft Word 97 via PDFWriter) on PostScript Printers, the apostrophe ( ' ) is crushed on its following character. This does'nt appear on the screen neither with PCL printers. It is independant of the fact that the font is embedded or not. The only solution is to work only with PostScript fonts which is not really possible. Any suggestion would be very appreciated. Annick Delanaye ----------------------------------------- Annick.Delanaye@ulg.ac.be 23-Jun-1998 7:16:22-GMT,2229;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27038 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:16:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23347; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:06:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:03:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23099; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:03:15 -0500 Message-Id: <9806230702.AC04373@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] QuarkXPress downsampling before distilling? Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 03:09:38 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > The simplest way to produce the PDF version appears to be to have a >Postscript version of the document e-mailed to me, no, the simple procedure would be to have the creator of the PostScript to make the PDF files. > which I would then >distill (Distiller 3.02) into PDF. The only hitch is the large number of >270-dpi black-and-white photos in the document, rendering a PS file of some >50-70 MB in our tests. Over slow modem lines, that's going to take a long >time to transmit and seems especially wasteful, yet another reason to Distill with downsampling at the creator end. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 23-Jun-1998 7:18:10-GMT,2061;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27399 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:18:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23381; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:07:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:04:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23231; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:04:20 -0500 Message-Id: <9806230703.AB04373@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing Fonts Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 03:10:44 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Brett, >Is there any way to make a permanent font substitution. When I open a >certain pdf it tells me that it cannot find a specific font and then it >substitutes helvetica for it. Is there any way to make helvetica replace >that font permanently (so people won't get an error upon opening it) In Exchange use the touchup tool to select text, under the Edit menu, select text attributes, change the font - print to disk, include all fonts, redistill. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 23-Jun-1998 7:18:11-GMT,3503;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27405 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:18:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23346; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:06:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:03:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23089; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:03:14 -0500 Message-Id: <9806230702.AC04373@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Handling bleeds from PDF Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 03:09:20 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" C. Scott Miller wrote: >I make most of my PDFs from QuarkXpress. In Page Setup I specify "Acrobat >Distiller 3.0" for Printer Type which typically sizes the PDF output to >whatever page size is necessary to show the entirety of the pages specified >for printing, including Spreads. > >Then I "Print" with registration marks on. What happens is that I get all of >my page plus a "bleed area" including registration and crop marks of about >1/2". I then Distill to PDF. The result is a full-size PDF that I can save >with full bleed, or document crop using the crop marks. Works every time. > Scott: this permits you to create a page size, and within that page, you will have a four points (or corners/positions) that would define the boundry of that bleed area, and four points that define the trim area, which is true when you would have an eps or pdf - the issues is not "can I represent a bleed in a pdf" - the issue is "can i make 2 (two) different bounding box like areas", one that can be recognised as a standard way by all applications that might want to position it properly within a pagination application (like Quark XPress for example) and an Imposition application (like Senic Soft Preps) without doing the math - you know, entering coordinates to position the page at a specifc x and y coordinate - for example, if you had a way to represent a bleedbox and a trim box in a full bleed partial advertisment, and Quark XPress could recognize it in such a way that it would place itself properly according to trim and bleed requirements of that page. Senic Soft offers this in EPS files, with the ssiboundingbox, but it only works with Preps (its application) - it would be nice if the next version of PDF offered a way for applications to identify coordinates such as these, and also be helpful if applications recognised them. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 23-Jun-1998 7:18:13-GMT,1960;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27416 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:18:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23376; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:07:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:03:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23185; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:03:49 -0500 Message-Id: <9806230703.AB04373@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Exchange as a service? Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 03:10:11 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , "PDF" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >Please be careful if the PS file distilled thru hot folders, the spot >color cannot be distilled out. That mean the epilogue & prologue is not >working with hot folders, it only work when you distill the file manully. actually, if you place copies of the epiloge & prologue files in the watched folders it will work. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 23-Jun-1998 7:20:25-GMT,2046;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27918 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:20:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23377; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:07:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:03:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23160; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:03:43 -0500 Message-Id: <9806230703.AC04373@atla3> Subject: [PDF] Page numbers on PDF Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 03:10:06 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , "Aandi Inston" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ! have a 400 page PDF file. I want to place page numbers on (or into, on the surface of) each PDF file. I have ways to do this in the Authoring application, and can even place PostScript commands that will execute and place page numbers so they are "Distillable" and therfore show up - BUT what if I have nothng but PDF files and want to add page numbers? And ideas? Kludge or otherwise accepted! Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 23-Jun-1998 8:48:14-GMT,2153;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04110 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:48:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25654; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:22:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:18:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25381; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:18:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980623101936.008e4100@mail.tim.se> X-Sender: tim-jl@mail.tim.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:19:36 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "johan.leide" Subject: Re: [PDF] Page numbers on PDF In-Reply-To: <9806230703.AC04373@atla3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Use the excellent plug-in Compose http://www.ambia.com/ that can produce pagenumbering on documents in a batch mode. I dontknow if they can produce a running pagination over different documents though! Johan Leide Teknik i Media, Sweden >! have a 400 page PDF file. > >I want to place page numbers on (or into, on the surface of) each PDF >file. > >I have ways to do this in the Authoring application, and can even place >PostScript commands that will execute and place page numbers so they are >"Distillable" and therfore show up - BUT what if I have nothng but PDF >files and want to add page numbers? > >And ideas? Kludge or otherwise accepted! > Johan Leide Teknik i Media 040-97 33 10 0706-72 00 35 Http://www.tim.se johan.leide@tim.se 23-Jun-1998 8:48:43-GMT,3287;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04122 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 02:48:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25902; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:30:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:26:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25749; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:26:36 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980623100409.0093cad0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:04:09 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980622203226.007aa100@mail.tim.se> References: <9806221139.AA01213@atla3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" QuarkXPress is not capable of separating JPEG compressed EPS files properly. If there are reasons why you don't want to use in-RIP separations then you'd probably do best to use a different image format, e.g. plain 'JPEG', which QuarkXPress can separate OK. If you do that then make sure that the halftone screen frequency is high enough on the QuarkXPress page setup, otherwise the data may be downsampled. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- At 20:32 22/06/98 +0200, johan.leide wrote: > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >I've performed similar tests and it ended fairly much the same. An >interesting point is that I have never been able to color separate EPS JPEG >in one file mode. Only if I turn on the DCS option in Photoshop it comes >out in a correct way. > >If I separate a EPS JPEG into Distiller I end up with a visable colour >image on plate number one (I think its Cyan= and then the rest of the >separations are blank allthough the image is there but it's masked and >still in colour mode (diagnosed the problem/feature with PitStop). > >My point of view is that it probably is Photoshop EPS JPEG (not DCS) files >that is not behaving correct or Quark that has a bug! > >BR > >Johan Leide 23-Jun-1998 9:22:32-GMT,2182;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA04900 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:22:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA26943; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:04:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:00:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26769; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:00:50 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Page numbers on PDF Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:00:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01bd9e85$6e2995e0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <9806230703.AC04373@atla3> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > I have ways to do this in the Authoring application, and can even place > PostScript commands that will execute and place page numbers so they are > "Distillable" and therfore show up - BUT what if I have nothng but PDF > files and want to add page numbers? PDFfusion does this and a whole load more. Check out www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat 23-Jun-1998 9:39:23-GMT,2419;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05371 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:39:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA27377; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:19:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:15:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27245; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:15:47 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Page numbers on PDF Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:06:25 +0100 Message-ID: <002301bd9e87$6383d680$105995c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <9806230703.AC04373@atla3> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > ! have a 400 page PDF file. > > I want to place page numbers on (or into, on the surface of) each PDF > file. > > I have ways to do this in the Authoring application, and can > even place > PostScript commands that will execute and place page numbers > so they are > "Distillable" and therfore show up - BUT what if I have > nothng but PDF > files and want to add page numbers? The two applications that I know of that will do this are Compose and Quite Imposing Plus. The features seem pretty similar and both make the page numbers part of the page. Quite Imposing Plus can also "peel off" the numbers it has added, before or after imposition. If existing number have to be masked both tools can do this too; Compose can add a band at top or bottom of the page while adding the numbers; Quite Imposing Plus has the separate "masking tape" tool. Aandi Inston Quite Software 23-Jun-1998 12:01:53-GMT,3550;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08607 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA31394; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:43:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:39:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA31262; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:39:19 -0500 Message-ID: <358F947B.CBB5368B@empa.ch> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:42:10 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automating pdf References: <199806220859.KAA10372@mb06.swip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Darron, There is a software which does exactly what you want namely going direct from HTML to PDF. It's called Convert Linker and is from a company called Integrated Information Solution. Here is the link to their homepage (http:// www.multilinker.com). Erwin Fredrik wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > "Darron Hutchison" wrote: > > [snip] > >Is there a simple way to generate pdf docs from the html pages in the same > >step? What I mean is when we compile a html page, can we automate the pdf > >generation of the html pages? > [snip] > >The xml/html pages are naturally text based, not ps - which is our stumbling > >block. We're on a NT/win95 network. > > > >Any hints, tips and magical solutions greatly appreciated > > the original reports/documents are probebly made in a wordprocessor (word, word perfect)? > if so, you can use a product from Enfocus. Ferrari (or what it will be called) is soon to hit the market. it convert and check EPS, PS and PDF on teh fly. > in your case you can use a postscript driver to "print to file" to a watched folder on a server/client in a network (it is not necesery to be a client/server sollution in a network). Ferrari takes care of the files and makes a PDF. it does nerly the same as Adobe Acrobat Destiller, but it is moore controllable and it is scritable. > > look at www.enfocus.com > > \fred > > *---------------------------------------------------------------------* > Fredrik Sjögren Graphics R&D Folksam Insurance - tel:+46 8-772 66 36 > fredrik.sjogren@swipnet.se S-106 60 Stockholm - fax:+46 8-643 45 91 > *?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????* > SeaBranch - types and design > +46 70-797 36 29 23-Jun-1998 12:49:12-GMT,2059;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09943 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:49:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00124; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:29:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:24:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32714; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:24:18 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: "PDF mailing list - technical" Subject: [PDF] P/comp Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:24:22 +0100 Message-ID: <002801bd9ea1$da8ae1a0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Just had a query on PDF comparison. The only product which I recall doing this was called P/comp although I haven't seen it being mentioned recently. Any other products &/or details of how to track down P/comp gratefully received. Thanks drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat 23-Jun-1998 13:06:36-GMT,1799;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10418 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:06:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00848; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:48:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:43:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00611; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:43:17 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for June-22-98 [V2 #250] Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:43:37 -0400 x-sender: rspeidel@mailbox.cjp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Rusty Speidel To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1313531101-14727465@mailbox.cjp.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I will be out of the office from June 22 through June 26. I will address your message when I return. If this is a matter that requires immediate attention, please contact Damon Lincourt, our systems manager, at dlincourt@cjp.com. Thanks, Rusty Speidel ================================== Russell Speidel Director, Medical Multimedia Ph: 804.979.4913 Fax: 804.979.4025 rspeidel@cjp.com ================================== 23-Jun-1998 13:31:09-GMT,1745;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11014 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:31:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01665; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:06:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:02:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01415; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:02:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:56:40 +0100 Message-ID: <3728-Tue23Jun1998135640+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] ViewerPreferences Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" IF I add this to the Catalog of a PDF file: /ViewerPreferences << /FitWindow true /CenterWindow true /PageLayout /TwoColumnRight >> the FitWindow and CenterWindow are obeyed, but the PageLayout is ignored. Exchange seems to just use whatever it has in acroexch. does anyone have any experience with this? am i missing something? Sebastian 23-Jun-1998 15:04:47-GMT,6803;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14160 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:04:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06445; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:46:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:41:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06217; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:41:33 -0500 Message-ID: <358FBF2E.D0AF69A8@empa.ch> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:44:34 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type References: <3.0.5.32.19980622203226.007aa100@mail.tim.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Johan, If you use a CMYK EPS JPEG image to start with, the preseparated and the composite workflow work well. I suppose you started with a RGB EBS JPEG and that causes the problems you had. It's definitly not a softwarebug. Erwin johan.leide wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > I've performed similar tests and it ended fairly much the same. An > interesting point is that I have never been able to color separate EPS JPEG > in one file mode. Only if I turn on the DCS option in Photoshop it comes > out in a correct way. > > If I separate a EPS JPEG into Distiller I end up with a visable colour > image on plate number one (I think its Cyan= and then the rest of the > separations are blank allthough the image is there but it's masked and > still in colour mode (diagnosed the problem/feature with PitStop). > > My point of view is that it probably is Photoshop EPS JPEG (not DCS) files > that is not behaving correct or Quark that has a bug! > > BR > > Johan Leide > > >> Word of caution... JPEG-encoded EPS files are not compatible with all > >> imaging systems (not even all PS Level 2 versions). This won't matter > >> much if the destination is PDF and, best of all, the JPEG compression in > >> Photoshop, when set to Maximum Quality, is clean and SMALL! > > > >great post about using Quark with eps Jpegs - I thought I would share > >some related testing results I did recently. > > > >I have had several of you email me concerning how Adobe Distiller creates > >and or modifies images - and if there are any advantages or benifits > >(Distillation time, resulting PDF file size) of building documents with a > >particular type of image. > > > >As I had not tested this, well, all I could say is "heck if I know" - but > >I don't think it matters one bit - they should all be the same" - > > > >But as i am paid to be a PDF evangelist - that was a pretty wussy excuse > >- so i performed the following test. > > > >Using Adobe PhotoShop, a saved a single image file in the following > >formats: > > > >1117k Scitex CT > >1116k Tiff > > 854k Tiff with LZW encoding > >1399k EPS with Binary data encoding > > 269k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting. > > > >I then placed each in a separated (but identical) Quark XPress document > >and saved each page as an eps: > > > >1100k Scitex CT Quark XPress page saved as eps > >1100k Tiff Quark XPress page saved as eps > >1100k Tiff with LZW encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps > >1400k EPS with Binary data encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps > > 368k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting) > >Quark XPress page as eps. > > > >I then Distilled each of these PDF files using identcal Distiller > >settings - in particular, In the Distiller Job Options compression dialog > >box, I used Manual compression selecting JPEG low (amount). > > > > 644k Scitex CT saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > > 644k Tiff saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > > 644k Tiff with LZW encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > > 644k EPS with Binary data encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF > >format > > 598k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting > >saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > > > >I am not actually certain why the eps that was made with the JPEG > >encoding is slightly smaller -(technically, it should not be) - possibly > >it fell under the block space of my hard drive - maybe not - one of our > >engineers explained that the disk overhead (read/write) may account for > >the speed (Distiiler must read, write a scratch file, write out a new PDF > >file, then compress it in memory I suppose) - > > > >The result is that it does not make a PDF file larger or smaller if you > >use on image file format over another - execpt eps with jpeg encoding. > > > >The time to distil each of these eps files did vary, but not by much: > > > >33 seconds Scitex CT Quark XPress page saved as eps > >31 seconds Tiff Quark XPress page saved as eps > >31 seconds Tiff with LZW encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps > >38 seconds EPS with Binary data encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps > >29 seconds EPS with JPEG encoding (with "Maximum Quality" setting Quark > >XPress page as eps. > > > >So as Roseanne a dan a danna said - it just goes to show ya - its always > >something. if its not one thing, its another. > > > >So i guess using (and Distilling) eps with jpeg data encoding is smaller > >and faster. size does matter. > > > >*smile* > > > > > > > >Michael Jahn > >PDF Evangelist > >Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation > >200 Ballardvale Street > >MS 200-4-5H > >Wilmington, MASS > >01887-1069 > >P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 > >F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) > >E: mikejahn@jahn.com > >E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com > >I: www.jahn.org > > > > > > Johan Leide > Teknik i Media > 040-97 33 10 > 0706-72 00 35 > Http://www.tim.se > johan.leide@tim.se 23-Jun-1998 15:53:14-GMT,2130;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16064 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:53:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08683; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:30:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:26:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08446; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:26:27 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825662C.0055A8E1.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:36:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" You can copy bookmarks into documents using Compose's TOC Builder, selecting"bookmarks" instead of a TOC page. So far, it seems to work really well! april.price@srs.gov on 06/22/98 07:38:00 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" When creating a PDF using Exchange, is there any way to select all of the bookmarks and copy them to another PDF? Thanks, avp 23-Jun-1998 15:54:09-GMT,2607;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16090 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:54:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09034; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:38:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:34:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08835; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:34:24 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825662C.00567124.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:44:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Page numbers on PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" We use Compose for this. SueG mjahn on 06/22/98 08:10:06 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "Aandi Inston" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Page numbers on PDF ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ! have a 400 page PDF file. I want to place page numbers on (or into, on the surface of) each PDF file. I have ways to do this in the Authoring application, and can even place PostScript commands that will execute and place page numbers so they are "Distillable" and therfore show up - BUT what if I have nothng but PDF files and want to add page numbers? And ideas? Kludge or otherwise accepted! Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 23-Jun-1998 16:13:08-GMT,3398;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16858 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:13:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09832; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:54:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:47:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09534; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:47:47 -0500 Message-ID: <358FCE29.1222EF11@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:47:54 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing errors with PostScript printers References: <199806230656.IAA175732@aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA09531 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Annick, a better way to go is to use Distiller. The way to do it, since Adobe still does not have a distiller driver, is to use a good PS printer to print to but instead of printing to paper, print to PS and put in in the "in" folder of a Distiller watched folder. This workaround is more cleary explained in the dc_acro.pdf that's on the DC site. HTH Bob Moran PS, the printer drivers are on the NT CD that comes with a new machine. Use Printers to get a good PPD like the Apple Color LaserWriter 12/600. Annick Delanaye wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Hello Everybody, > > I am new at pdf and have not finding a solution anywhere so I apologize and > ask the following : > I am working on Windows NT4 wit Adobe Acrobat 3.01. When printing pdf > files( which come from Microsoft Word 97 via PDFWriter) on PostScript > Printers, the apostrophe ( ' ) is crushed on its following character. This > does'nt appear on the screen neither with PCL printers. It is independant > of the fact that the font is embedded or not. The only solution is to work > only with PostScript fonts which is not really possible. > > Any suggestion would be very appreciated. > > Annick Delanaye > > ----------------------------------------- > Annick.Delanaye@ulg.ac.be -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 23-Jun-1998 16:53:26-GMT,1914;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18333 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:53:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10958; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:14:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:10:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10795; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:10:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:57:46 +0100 Message-ID: <1958-Tue23Jun1998155746+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] ViewerPreferences In-Reply-To: <3728-Tue23Jun1998135640+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> References: <3728-Tue23Jun1998135640+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Sebastian Rahtz writes: > > /ViewerPreferences > << /FitWindow true /CenterWindow true /PageLayout /TwoColumnRight >> > to answer my own question, it has to be /ViewerPreferences << /FitWindow true /CenterWindow true >> /PageLayout /TwoColumnRight ie PageLayout is a top-level key in the Catalog. Either the PDF spec or Acrobat software are wrong .... Sebastian 23-Jun-1998 17:12:38-GMT,2481;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18996 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:12:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13078; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:54:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:49:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12893; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:49:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:49:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. White" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Hidden Text and Searching Diacritics.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I work in a large research library-- we're trying to create a PDF document from an MS Word file which contains transliterated Arabic (including some diacritic characters). For example: Qu'ran (with the apostrophe being an 'ayn' symbol etc.). The document uses a special font which includes the diacritics. The problem: The document needs to be searchable *but* the words with diacritics won't search correctly (or at all) in Acrobat Reader no matter what we do. 'Wildcard' characters don't work. 1) Have also tried converting as image with hidden text but can't figure out how to view or change the 'hidden' text. (i.e. if I could make the word Qu'ran searchable as Quran, this would solve our problems). Is viewing or changing the 'hidden text' possible, and if so how? 2) Would embedding the font solve the searching problem and make wildcard searching possible? i.e. Qu?an or etc.? How do I embed a font from a Word Document? I'm pretty much still at the learning stage, so apologies in advance if this is basic stuff! I would appreciate any ideas/suggestions -- many thanks, Jake White University of Washington Libraries, Seattle 23-Jun-1998 17:32:07-GMT,4392;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19764 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:32:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14352; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:16:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:12:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14097; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:12:23 -0500 Message-Id: <9806231702.AA27397@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 13:09:11 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Michael Jahn wrote: > I am not actually certain why the eps that was made with the JPEG > encoding is slightly smaller -(technically, it should not be) - possibly > it fell under the block space of my hard drive - maybe not - one of our > engineers explained that the disk overhead (read/write) may account for > the speed (Distiiler must read, write a scratch file, write out a new PDF > file, then compress it in memory I suppose) - Cory wrote: >No, I suspect the size difference is due to applying (lossy) JPEG compression >*twice* on that copy of the image (once in PhotoShop, again in Distiller), >resulting in greater data compression but also greater data loss. Remember, >"maximum quality" does not imply "lossless". Michael Jahn responded confused still: This was not a test of quality - this was a file size issue. I appreciate and fully understand that an amount of "quality loss" will occur when I "compress" using Maximum Quality - and fully understand the Jpeg method of making the file "smaller" file size wise - but if the image was 300 ppi - it does "expand" back to 300 ppi when interperated (so I thought) at a rip - and if I simply use Distiller to interperate this (and other files) and I use Enfocus PitStop and or Checkup to examine this file, it reports that this image is (in both cases) 462 pixels by 618 pixels at 300x300 ppi, and that it is an Xobject using 1142064 bytes (in both cases) - SO my question remains - if the file(s) in each of these PDFs - one made from a Quark Page with a eps - Jpeg encoded maxiumum quality compressed image, the other PDF made from a Quark Page with a eps - binary encoded no compression image - and they both report that they are CMYK, at the same resolution and the same byte size - why is one take up less space on my hard drive? > >To complete your test, you might somehow extract the raster image from all >the >resulting PDF files, and I bet you will find they are all identical with the >except of the latter, which will be slightly smaller -- why smaller? The bit depth did not change! If I save this eps with Jpeg encoding out from PhotoShop without Jpeg encoding (change it to Binary) it grows back to the identical size of the original - as I would have expected. > and also somewhat more >muddy in areas of high contrast. yea, yea - and in a side by side comparison printed sample at 150 lines per inch on a web press on a number two sheet I defy anyone to tell me which one was compressed and which one wasn't - the effects of re - compression are easy to detect when you open these images in Adobe PhotoShop side by side - remember, I used Max quality in Adobe PhotoShop and Low Amount in Distiller - but the fact is, you can't see the difference on a press sheet. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 23-Jun-1998 17:56:58-GMT,4251;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20737 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:56:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15571; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:43:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:39:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15355; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:39:20 -0500 Message-ID: <358FE7C6.122F51AE@aip.org> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:37:10 -0400 From: Chris Hamlin Organization: American Institute of Physics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type References: <9806231702.AA27397@atla3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" mjahn wrote: > > Michael Jahn wrote: > > > Michael Jahn responded confused still: > > This was not a test of quality - this was a file size issue. > > I appreciate and fully understand that an amount of "quality loss" will > occur when I "compress" using Maximum Quality - and fully understand the > Jpeg method of making the file "smaller" file size wise - but if the > image was 300 ppi - it does "expand" back to 300 ppi when interperated > (so I thought) at a rip - and if I simply use Distiller to interperate > this (and other files) and I use Enfocus PitStop and or Checkup to > examine this file, it reports that this image is (in both cases) 462 > pixels by 618 pixels at 300x300 ppi, and that it is an Xobject using > 1142064 bytes (in both cases) - > > SO my question remains - if the file(s) in each of these PDFs - one made > from a Quark Page with a eps - Jpeg encoded maxiumum quality compressed > image, the other PDF made from a Quark Page with a eps - binary encoded > no compression image - and they both report that they are CMYK, at the > same resolution and the same byte size - why is one take up less space on > my hard drive? It's the interaction of the compression algorithm and the image content. > > > >To complete your test, you might somehow extract the raster image from all > >the > >resulting PDF files, and I bet you will find they are all identical with the > >except of the latter, which will be slightly smaller > > -- why smaller? The bit depth did not change! If I save this eps with > Jpeg encoding out from PhotoShop without Jpeg encoding (change it to > Binary) it grows back to the identical size of the original - as I would > have expected. The compressed size depends on both the algorithm and the content (not just the size, the actual content). Since the one image has already been compressed via jpeg then decompressed, it is different (as you agree). The image has basically been "simplified" by throwing away information in the file. When recompressing, the same thing occurs again, making the file smaller yet. Maybe you can think of two high-quality compressions as adding up to one medium-quality compression. More compression, but more loss (of information/content, not size). I don't know if this is the exact math, but I think the idea is generally correct. Another example: just imagine how small you could compress a file if it were all black or white. A good compression algorithm would need only 1 bit for the content, no matter how large/small. However, this would really screw up images that contained gray values. Now there's a lossy algorithm! Regards, Chris -- Chris Hamlin American Institute of Physics, 500 Sunnyside Blvd, Woodbury, NY 11797-2999 Internet: chamlin@aip.org Phone: 516/576-2335 FAX: 516/349-7669 23-Jun-1998 18:24:56-GMT,2252;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21774 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16695; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:07:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:02:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16474; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:02:55 -0500 From: kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com Message-Id: <9806238986.AA898625015@deltahealth.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 14:03:37 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] Word documents to PDF Files. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Help!!! I work at a company where MIS manuals are done in Pagemaker and the CIS manual is done in Word. We have converted all of our MIS (Pagemaker) manuals into .PDF files and will soon begin working on preparing them for the Web. I know there is an Acrobat upgrade out there that will allow me to convert a Word document into a .PDF file just as easily as converting a Pagemaker document into a .PDF file. I just have one question about it. When it comes time to put the MIS manuals (Pagemaker source files) and the CIS manual (Word source file), on the Web, are they going to look different because they were made from different sources? In other words, do I have to convert our CIS manual into a Pagemaker file before I convert it to a .PDF file so the results will look the same when they get to the Web? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. 23-Jun-1998 18:42:16-GMT,4078;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22671 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:42:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16886; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:11:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:07:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16704; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:07:52 -0500 Message-ID: <358FEEC2.50F5EB46@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:06:58 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type References: <9806231702.AA27397@atla3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" mjahn wrote: > > I appreciate and fully understand that an amount of "quality loss" will > occur when I "compress" using Maximum Quality - and fully understand the > Jpeg method of making the file "smaller" file size wise - but if the > image was 300 ppi - it does "expand" back to 300 ppi when interperated > (so I thought) at a rip Right, when the file is decoded it must be the same size. We are in agreement. > SO my question remains - if the file(s) in each of these PDFs - one made > from a Quark Page with a eps - Jpeg encoded maxiumum quality compressed > image, the other PDF made from a Quark Page with a eps - binary encoded > no compression image - and they both report that they are CMYK, at the > same resolution and the same byte size - why is one take up less space on > my hard drive? Because the former has had JPEG compression applied twice (once by PhotoShop and once by Distiller), and the latter has had it applied only once (by Distiller). You are comparing the sizes of the PDF file, not the uncompressed image. > >To complete your test, you might somehow extract the raster image from all > >the > >resulting PDF files, and I bet you will find they are all identical with the > >except of the latter, which will be slightly smaller > > -- why smaller? The bit depth did not change! If I save this eps with > Jpeg encoding out from PhotoShop without Jpeg encoding (change it to > Binary) it grows back to the identical size of the original - as I would > have expected. I was referring to a comparison of the JPEG-encoded raster in the two PDF files. Again, if you write them out uncompressed (like printing to a level 1 PostScript file), the raster should be the same size. But if you look at the sizes of the encoded raster, you will see they are different. > > and also somewhat more > >muddy in areas of high contrast. > > yea, yea - and in a side by side comparison printed sample at 150 lines > per inch on a web press on a number two sheet I defy anyone to tell me > which one was compressed and which one wasn't - the effects of re - > compression are easy to detect when you open these images in Adobe > PhotoShop side by side - remember, I used Max quality in Adobe PhotoShop > and Low Amount in Distiller - but the fact is, you can't see the > difference on a press sheet. The fact remains the JPEG is lossy whether you see it, or I see it, or we all do, or nobody does. It's important, even in the print world, for people to understand that lossy compressions should be applied with care; repeatedly saving raster data with JPEG compressions will eventually degrade quality. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group 23-Jun-1998 18:48:39-GMT,1970;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22861 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:48:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17902; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:33:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:29:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17710; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:29:55 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825662C.00652816.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:28:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Word documents to PDF Files. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Kelly, All you need to do is open the Word document and instead of printing to you your printer, choose the Postscript driver you are using and "print to file". A dialog box will ask you to name this file. Use the name of the word file (for example: "CIS_pg1-50", add the ".ps" filename extension) Open Adobe Distiller and open this ".ps" file to distill it. Once distiller is done, it will be converted to a ".pdf" file. Now you can open this file in Adobe Exchange or open the MIS files and add this file to it. No need to convert to Pagemaker. Just PRINT TO FILE as if you were printing to your printer. Regards, rob 23-Jun-1998 19:08:29-GMT,1940;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23601 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:08:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18660; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:51:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:46:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18437; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:46:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:46:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Blake Sartin To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Distiller 3.0.1 Command Line Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hello- I am attempting to use Distiller to create .pdf files from .eps files on the fly. However, I am having problems getting the so-called command line options to work. All of the documentation seems to be for Win 3.1, and I am currently on an NT 4.0 machine. The program will fire up and distill, but then will not return control to the command line without actually closing the program. Also, the /o and /q arguments do not work. This creates serious problems finishing the macro. What gives? All help appreciated! Blake Sartin Research Associate Systems Development Institute University of Tennessee, Knoxville 23-Jun-1998 19:09:12-GMT,2573;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23644 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:09:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18864; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:55:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:51:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18666; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:51:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:50:48 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type To: CTPP computer-to-plate-pressroom , PDF listserver Message-ID: <199806231451_MC2-411F-9370@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA18663 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Michael, >it reports that this image is (in both cases) 462 >pixels by 618 pixels at 300x300 ppi, and that it is an Xobject using >1142064 bytes (in both cases) - you see a report of the _expanded_ size of the image. Depending on the compression used, you may well end up with different space usage on your harddisk. Olaf Druemmer PS: 463 x 618 x 4 = 1142064 (the 4 means 4 colors = CMYK, 1 byte per color per pixel) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Jun-1998 19:20:45-GMT,3524;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24069 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:20:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19453; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:05:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:01:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19181; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:01:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:01:11 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Hidden Text and Searching Diacritics.... To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199806231501_MC2-411D-8CDF@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA19178 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Jake, if you select a iece of text in your Arabic PDF document and paste that copied text into a Acrobat note - what do you see? What happens if you paste that copied text into the Find dialog box and search for it in the very same file? Olaf Druemmer >I work in a large research library-- we're trying to create a PDF document >from an MS Word file which contains transliterated Arabic (including some >diacritic characters). For example: Qu'ran (with the apostrophe being an >'ayn' symbol etc.). The document uses a special font which includes the >diacritics. > >The problem: The document needs to be searchable *but* the words with >diacritics won't search correctly (or at all) in Acrobat Reader no matter >what we do. 'Wildcard' characters don't work. > >1) Have also tried converting as image with hidden text but can't figure >out how to view or change the 'hidden' text. (i.e. if I could make the >word Qu'ran searchable as Quran, this would solve our problems). Is >viewing or changing the 'hidden text' possible, and if so how? > >2) Would embedding the font solve the searching problem and make wildcard >searching possible? i.e. Qu?an or etc.? How do I embed a font from a Word >Document? > >I'm pretty much still at the learning stage, so apologies in >advance if this is basic stuff! I would appreciate any ideas/suggestions >-- > >many thanks, > >Jake White >University of Washington Libraries, Seattle > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Jun-1998 20:27:45-GMT,2841;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26367 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:27:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22143; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:06:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21958; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:05 -0500 Message-ID: <35900B27.8F3A123A@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:08:07 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: New world Ventures Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Word documents to PDF Files. References: <9806238986.AA898625015@deltahealth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" The output is the same. The real issue is the design. If they differ, the files will differ. R Moran kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Help!!! > > I work at a company where MIS manuals are done in Pagemaker and the CIS manual > is done in Word. We have converted all of our MIS (Pagemaker) manuals into .PDF > files and will soon begin working on preparing them for the Web. I know there is > an Acrobat upgrade out there that will allow me to convert a Word document into > a .PDF file just as easily as converting a Pagemaker document into a .PDF file. > I just have one question about it. When it comes time to put the MIS manuals > (Pagemaker source files) and the CIS manual (Word source file), on the Web, are > they going to look different because they were made from different sources? > > In other words, do I have to convert our CIS manual into a Pagemaker file before > I convert it to a .PDF file so the results will look the same when they get to > the Web? > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks. 23-Jun-1998 21:04:18-GMT,2103;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27832 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:04:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23978; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:47:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:44:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23841; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:44:16 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: PENTON CLEVELAND From: "John Hricko" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525662C.00716849.00@mail.penton.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:43:05 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Running from the CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I'm repeating myself here, but I'm looking for anyone who's actually had experience creating a CD with Acrobat already installed on it for multiple platforms (Win3.1, Win95, Mac), so that the application runs from the CD. (I know that I must include the original installer from Adobe.) _Somebody_ told my boss it could be done, so I'm on the case. I'm using a Zip disk in order to test the disk image before burning a CD-ROM. It was earlier stated that ATM is no longer needed to run Reader from an external disk, but I continue to get messages stating that ATM could not be found, and the program refuses to launch on the Mac. It seems to work o.k. for WIN3.1. WIN95 keeps looking for a DLL and won't launch. Can this really be done? John Hricko Penton New Media 23-Jun-1998 21:23:10-GMT,2222;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28549 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:23:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24755; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:05:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:00:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24550; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:00:51 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.0.1 Command Line Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:42:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd9ee9$e6978460$b85695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > I am attempting to use Distiller to create .pdf files from > .eps files on the fly. However, I am having problems getting the > so-called command line options to work. > > All of the documentation seems to be for Win 3.1, and I am > currently on an > NT 4.0 machine. The program will fire up and distill, but > then will not > return control to the command line without actually closing > the program. > Also, the /o and /q arguments do not work. This creates > serious problems > finishing the macro. What gives? Which so called documentation are you using? (Hint: the Acrobat SDK on the 3.01 CDROM is a good place to look). Aandi 23-Jun-1998 22:58:32-GMT,2620;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06064 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:58:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28716; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:42:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:36:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28521; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:36:29 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Running from the CD Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 23:34:28 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bd9ef7$41e55060$b85695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <8525662C.00716849.00@mail.penton.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I believe that what you seek to do is specifically forbidden by Adobe's reader redistribution license. If that's the case, the technical issues are irrelevant. I don't believe that simply including the installer too will cut it - but perhaps I am wrong. I believe the REASON for requiring the installer to be distributed is that with previous versions many not-quite-right- but-it-worked-at-home repackaged installations went out. For instance, will you be testing on MacOS 7, 8, 8.1, with and without GX, with no existing ATM, ATM 3.x, or ATM 4.x? The problem being that if it doesn't work, the blame often gets attached to Adobe, and that is a situation I'd want to avoid, if I were them. > I'm repeating myself here, but I'm looking for anyone who's > actually had > experience creating a CD with Acrobat already installed on it > for multiple > platforms (Win3.1, Win95, Mac), so that the application runs > from the CD. > (I know that I must include the original installer from > Adobe.) _Somebody_ > told my boss it could be done, so I'm on the case. Aandi 24-Jun-1998 6:09:10-GMT,2487;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18537 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:09:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09874; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:44:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:35:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09552; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:35:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:08:38 -0500 (GMT) From: Satyanarayan X-Sender: usatra01@obelix To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 april.price@srs.gov wrote: > When creating a PDF using Exchange, is there any way to select all of > the bookmarks and copy them to another PDF? > Thanks, avp Hello April Price, This is simple. You Do Not copy Bookmarks, but replace the pages. Let us assume you want to copy all the Bookmarks of "A.pdf" to "B.pdf" Open "A.pdf" ; Replace all pages of "A.pdf" from pages of "B.pdf" Saveas "B.pdf". Now you have all the Bookmarks of "A.pdf" copied to "B.pdf". This works for us very well. We normally create PDF files of Engineering drawings which are only one page. We create a Master.pdf file which will have Bookmarks to all the drawings, then we run a script to do the page replace and saveas, with which we would copy the Bookmarks from the Master.pdf file to all the individual pdf files, facilitating navigation between the siblings and the other support files. With best regards Satyanarayan ___________________________________ | E-mail: usatra81@vetri.com | | Tel Res: 91-44-4992916,4995641 | | Tel off: 91-44-8272066,8273452 | | Fax off: 91-44-8272528 | ----------------------------------- 24-Jun-1998 7:14:51-GMT,6451;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA02048 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:14:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA11997; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:51:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:47:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA11870; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:47:51 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980623233733.007cbb80@mail.tim.se> X-Sender: tim-jl@mail.tim.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 23:37:33 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "johan.leide" Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type In-Reply-To: <358FBF2E.D0AF69A8@empa.ch> References: <3.0.5.32.19980622203226.007aa100@mail.tim.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" No I have used a CMYK Photoshop EPS with medium JPEG compression but without DCS separation and placed it in Quark 3.2, 3.31, 3.32, 4.03, PageMaker 6.5 As long as it's not pre separated it simply doesn't work! BR Johan >Johan, > >If you use a CMYK EPS JPEG image to start with, the preseparated and the >composite workflow work well. I suppose you started with a RGB EBS JPEG and >that causes the problems you had. It's definitly not a softwarebug. > >> The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >> >> I've performed similar tests and it ended fairly much the same. An >> interesting point is that I have never been able to color separate EPS JPEG >> in one file mode. Only if I turn on the DCS option in Photoshop it comes >> out in a correct way. >> >> If I separate a EPS JPEG into Distiller I end up with a visable colour >> image on plate number one (I think its Cyan= and then the rest of the >> separations are blank allthough the image is there but it's masked and >> still in colour mode (diagnosed the problem/feature with PitStop). >> >> My point of view is that it probably is Photoshop EPS JPEG (not DCS) files >> that is not behaving correct or Quark that has a bug! >> >> BR >> >> Johan Leide >> >> >> Word of caution... JPEG-encoded EPS files are not compatible with all >> >> imaging systems (not even all PS Level 2 versions). This won't matter >> >> much if the destination is PDF and, best of all, the JPEG compression in >> >> Photoshop, when set to Maximum Quality, is clean and SMALL! >> > >> >great post about using Quark with eps Jpegs - I thought I would share >> >some related testing results I did recently. >> > >> >I have had several of you email me concerning how Adobe Distiller creates >> >and or modifies images - and if there are any advantages or benifits >> >(Distillation time, resulting PDF file size) of building documents with a >> >particular type of image. >> > >> >As I had not tested this, well, all I could say is "heck if I know" - but >> >I don't think it matters one bit - they should all be the same" - >> > >> >But as i am paid to be a PDF evangelist - that was a pretty wussy excuse >> >- so i performed the following test. >> > >> >Using Adobe PhotoShop, a saved a single image file in the following >> >formats: >> > >> >1117k Scitex CT >> >1116k Tiff >> > 854k Tiff with LZW encoding >> >1399k EPS with Binary data encoding >> > 269k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting. >> > >> >I then placed each in a separated (but identical) Quark XPress document >> >and saved each page as an eps: >> > >> >1100k Scitex CT Quark XPress page saved as eps >> >1100k Tiff Quark XPress page saved as eps >> >1100k Tiff with LZW encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps >> >1400k EPS with Binary data encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps >> > 368k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting) >> >Quark XPress page as eps. >> > >> >I then Distilled each of these PDF files using identcal Distiller >> >settings - in particular, In the Distiller Job Options compression dialog >> >box, I used Manual compression selecting JPEG low (amount). >> > >> > 644k Scitex CT saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format >> > 644k Tiff saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format >> > 644k Tiff with LZW encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format >> > 644k EPS with Binary data encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF >> >format >> > 598k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting >> >saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format >> > >> >I am not actually certain why the eps that was made with the JPEG >> >encoding is slightly smaller -(technically, it should not be) - possibly >> >it fell under the block space of my hard drive - maybe not - one of our >> >engineers explained that the disk overhead (read/write) may account for >> >the speed (Distiiler must read, write a scratch file, write out a new PDF >> >file, then compress it in memory I suppose) - >> > >> >The result is that it does not make a PDF file larger or smaller if you >> >use on image file format over another - execpt eps with jpeg encoding. >> > >> >The time to distil each of these eps files did vary, but not by much: >> > >> >33 seconds Scitex CT Quark XPress page saved as eps >> >31 seconds Tiff Quark XPress page saved as eps >> >31 seconds Tiff with LZW encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps >> >38 seconds EPS with Binary data encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps >> >29 seconds EPS with JPEG encoding (with "Maximum Quality" setting Quark >> >XPress page as eps. >> > >> >So as Roseanne a dan a danna said - it just goes to show ya - its always >> >something. if its not one thing, its another. >> > >> >So i guess using (and Distilling) eps with jpeg data encoding is smaller >> >and faster. size does matter. >> > >> >*smile* Johan Leide Teknik i Media 040-97 33 10 0706-72 00 35 Http://www.tim.se johan.leide@tim.se 24-Jun-1998 7:54:15-GMT,3266;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09019 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:54:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13276; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 02:34:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 02:30:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13118; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 02:30:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3590AC62.76736308@tsi-net.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:36:02 -0700 From: Russell Hansberry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Running from the CD References: <8525662C.00716849.00@mail.penton.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" John, Have you tried doing this from the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM? This CD-ROM from Adobe is created with all the bells and whistles to work on all operating systems. If that fails, you are probably wasting your time trying to figure out how to make your own CD-ROM do it. If it works, you are into a different set of problems cutting a multi-OS CD-ROM. Hint: do it on a MAC. That is not a religious statement so please no religious wars. The tools are available on the MAC. I was not able to find the correct set of tools to burn a CD-ROM from Windows 95 in all the formats supported by the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM. I looked. Your mileage may vary. Russell Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com John Hricko wrote: > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > I'm repeating myself here, but I'm looking for anyone who's actually had > experience creating a CD with Acrobat already installed on it for multiple > platforms (Win3.1, Win95, Mac), so that the application runs from the CD. > (I know that I must include the original installer from Adobe.) _Somebody_ > told my boss it could be done, so I'm on the case. > > I'm using a Zip disk in order to test the disk image before burning a > CD-ROM. It was earlier stated that ATM is no longer needed to run Reader > from an external disk, but I continue to get messages stating that ATM > could not be found, and the program refuses to launch on the Mac. It seems > to work o.k. for WIN3.1. WIN95 keeps looking for a DLL and won't launch. > > Can this really be done? > > John Hricko > Penton New Media 24-Jun-1998 11:46:07-GMT,4340;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14578 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 05:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19458; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:19:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:15:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19309; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:15:16 -0500 Message-Id: <9806240718.AA00478@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF, font embedding and TrueType... Date: Wed, 24 Jun 98 03:25:39 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA19306 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Erwin Widmer wrote: >I'd like to emphasize on that. I once heared that the basic 14 (or I thought >there are just 13) type fonts are never embedded, even on ask Distiller to >embed all type fonts. First off, you need to be specific as to what platform you are creating the PostScript from - as Windows 95 and the Macintosh drivers create diferent results - second, you need to clarify if you are actually using Type1 fonts of the Adobe Standard 14 (?) 1. Couri 2. CouriBol 3. CouriBolObl 4. CouriObl 5. Helve 6. HelveBol 7. HelveBolObl 8. HelveObl 9. Symbo 10. ZapfDin 11. TimesRom 12. TimesIta 13. TimesBol 14. TimesBolIta or if (for example, on a Mac) you have TrueType versions loaded (and NOT the Type 1s loaded) in the system, The PostScript will indeed create subsets of these fonts and embeded them - Distiller never embeds the standard 14 IF THEY ARE TYPE 1 and they are in the Macintosh system folder. > After Olaf's message that is wrong. not exactly - he was just being a little clearer - and you are being too vauge in your question to make it a yes or no type answer. BESIDES these points, another issue is if you can actually find text made with truetype fonts in a PDF using the search tool - this is in the Distiller Read me file: Windows 95 and TrueType Fonts ‹ All files using TrueType fonts and output to PostScript result in PDF files in which strings can not be found by the Find tool or Acrobat Search. This occurs with either the Microsoft or Adobe PostScript printer drivers. The fonts are remapped at PostScript generation time which disconnects the character you see on screen from that character in the font. Solution: Use Type1 fonts or use Acrobat PDFWriter to create the PDF file. Windows 95 and TrueType Fonts ‹ When you use TrueType fonts in Windows 95, you can send them to the Distiller as TrueType fonts by using the Adobe PS 4.1 driver configured with the Acrobat Distiller PPD. Install the Adobe PS 4.1 driver (included in the Drivers folder on the Adobe Acrobat 3.0 for Windows CD-ROM). Add Acrobat Distiller as a printer by directing Adobe PS 4.1 to the following directory: c:\Acrobat3\Distillr\Xtras. Once installed, display the Properties dialog. On the Font tab, click "Send Fonts As". In the dialog box, choose Type 42 as the format for sending True Type fonts. Remember, the strings in these files can not be found by the Find tool or Acrobat Search. > Are there other >experiences? yes, good ones and bad ones - good one start by setting up your Mac or PC without any TrueType fonts - use Type 1, and "dont worry be happy". Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 24-Jun-1998 13:27:00-GMT,2096;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17191 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 07:26:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22541; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 07:45:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 07:41:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22369; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 07:41:50 -0500 Message-Id: <9806241225.AA18012@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type Date: Wed, 24 Jun 98 08:32:29 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >No I have used a CMYK Photoshop EPS with medium JPEG compression but >without DCS separation and placed it in Quark 3.2, 3.31, 3.32, 4.03, >PageMaker 6.5 > >As long as it's not pre separated it simply doesn't work! > It does not work when you print composite PostScript or when you try and ask Quark to separate it - It works perfectly if you print composite PostScript on our Agfa rips with In Rip Separations, and even distills and then separates the PDF (in the Taipan AX) Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 24-Jun-1998 14:09:50-GMT,1798;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18568 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:09:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25386; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:53:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:48:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25136; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:48:38 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for June-24-98 [V2 #251] Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:48:56 -0400 x-sender: rspeidel@mailbox.cjp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Rusty Speidel To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1313440788-3055774@mailbox.cjp.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I will be out of the office from June 22 through June 26. I will address your message when I return. If this is a matter that requires immediate attention, please contact Damon Lincourt, our systems manager, at dlincourt@cjp.com. Thanks, Rusty Speidel ================================== Russell Speidel Director, Medical Multimedia Ph: 804.979.4913 Fax: 804.979.4025 rspeidel@cjp.com ================================== 24-Jun-1998 14:10:17-GMT,1898;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18587 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:10:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25387; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:53:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:48:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25113; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:48:33 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD9F55.34C98320.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for June-22-98 [V2 #250] Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:48:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Correct - no search function using Reader in a browser. Just heard a rumor this may be fixed in 4.0 (and I usually hate rumors). Mark PDFs viewed in a browser do not have the search function available - via an Acrobat Catalog index? *Using Reader 3.0 our Macs here have the search button and use the Catalog Index but seems to go via Exchange???? (Exchange loads and is active during the search) The PCs don't seem to have the search function available at all. Mark Stephenson SoftWare Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com 24-Jun-1998 14:27:10-GMT,1593;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19180 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:27:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26477; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:13:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:09:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26282; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:09:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199806241403.KAA23469@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> From: "Linda Bajumpaa" To: Subject: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:01:36 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am looking for a plug in for Acrobat that will allow me to save a document to my hard drive after downloading it online. Is there a plug in that will add an icon to the toolbar? 24-Jun-1998 14:49:11-GMT,2250;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19997 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:49:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28013; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:32:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:29:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27703; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:29:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980624073212.007ec3d0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 07:32:12 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat In-Reply-To: <199806241403.KAA23469@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" No plug-in needed, unless I'm really missing something. Using Netscape, right-click on the pdf link and select Save link as... and you can save the PDF to your hard drive. I'm sure IE has something similar. At 10:01 AM 6/24/98 -0400, you wrote: > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >I am looking for a plug in for Acrobat that will allow me to save a >document to my hard drive after downloading it online. Is there a plug in >that will add an icon to the toolbar? > > > 24-Jun-1998 14:49:13-GMT,1885;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20002 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28032; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:32:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:30:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27839; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:30:27 -0500 From: RobertB425@aol.com Message-ID: <104d414e.35910d65@aol.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:29:56 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: [PDF] Word documents to PDF Files. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am new to PDF. I am in the process of writing the 2nd edition of my published textbook as a PDF web/electronic/CD book. My original is in MSWord 6 for the Macintosh. I have recently acquired MSWord 98 for the Mac. MSWord 98 has linking capability. How can I put the hotlinks in my MSWord 98 file and then print to a ps file for Distiller with the links intact. I tried it on a short file, and the links are not there after distilling. I know that FrameMaker will do this, but the time to convert from Word to FrameMaker is too long - too many changes. Thanks. 24-Jun-1998 14:57:22-GMT,2866;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20309 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:57:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28529; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:41:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:39:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28385; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:39:12 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:31:55 +0100 Message-ID: <002001bd9f7c$d622ae00$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199806241403.KAA23469@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > I am looking for a plug in for Acrobat that will allow me to save a > document to my hard drive after downloading it online. Is there a plug in > that will add an icon to the toolbar? look at: www.roundtable.com.au drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Linda Bajumpaa > Sent: 24 June 1998 15:02 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat > > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > I am looking for a plug in for Acrobat that will allow me to save a > document to my hard drive after downloading it online. Is there a plug in > that will add an icon to the toolbar? > 24-Jun-1998 15:11:40-GMT,1703;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20830 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:11:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29521; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:56:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:52:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29295; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:52:57 -0500 Message-ID: <002801bd9f7f$b4355920$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] dictionary files Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:52:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is there a simple way to create a dictionary file from a collection of documents (that you know have no spelling mistakes.) I am capturing thousands of technical documents that are filled with engineering terms and acronyms... thanks, Brett 24-Jun-1998 15:21:18-GMT,3045;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21217 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:21:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30042; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:03:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:01:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29842; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:01:05 -0500 Message-ID: <35911549.ED78FCD1@empa.ch> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:03:56 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Word documents to PDF Files. References: <9806238986.AA898625015@deltahealth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Kelly, I know people how are able to see a printed sheet and know from what software the text comes from. If you want to make these people happy, you have to convert your Word files to PageMaker first. BTW, I wouldn't see a difference if you would go directly from both softwares. Erwin kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Help!!! > > I work at a company where MIS manuals are done in Pagemaker and the CIS manual > is done in Word. We have converted all of our MIS (Pagemaker) manuals into .PDF > files and will soon begin working on preparing them for the Web. I know there is > an Acrobat upgrade out there that will allow me to convert a Word document into > a .PDF file just as easily as converting a Pagemaker document into a .PDF file. > I just have one question about it. When it comes time to put the MIS manuals > (Pagemaker source files) and the CIS manual (Word source file), on the Web, are > they going to look different because they were made from different sources? > > In other words, do I have to convert our CIS manual into a Pagemaker file before > I convert it to a .PDF file so the results will look the same when they get to > the Web? > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks. 24-Jun-1998 15:58:38-GMT,7214;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22854 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:58:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31753; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:35:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:32:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31573; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:32:39 -0500 Message-ID: <35911CA1.FDF7798C@empa.ch> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:35:19 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Downsampling and image type References: <3.0.5.32.19980622203226.007aa100@mail.tim.se> <3.0.5.32.19980623233733.007cbb80@mail.tim.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Johan, I did these test too and it worked. Are you able to send me a small image to look at it? Erwin johan.leide wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > No I have used a CMYK Photoshop EPS with medium JPEG compression but > without DCS separation and placed it in Quark 3.2, 3.31, 3.32, 4.03, > PageMaker 6.5 > > As long as it's not pre separated it simply doesn't work! > > BR > > Johan > > >Johan, > > > >If you use a CMYK EPS JPEG image to start with, the preseparated and the > >composite workflow work well. I suppose you started with a RGB EBS JPEG and > >that causes the problems you had. It's definitly not a softwarebug. > > > > >> The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >> > >> I've performed similar tests and it ended fairly much the same. An > >> interesting point is that I have never been able to color separate EPS JPEG > >> in one file mode. Only if I turn on the DCS option in Photoshop it comes > >> out in a correct way. > >> > >> If I separate a EPS JPEG into Distiller I end up with a visable colour > >> image on plate number one (I think its Cyan= and then the rest of the > >> separations are blank allthough the image is there but it's masked and > >> still in colour mode (diagnosed the problem/feature with PitStop). > >> > >> My point of view is that it probably is Photoshop EPS JPEG (not DCS) files > >> that is not behaving correct or Quark that has a bug! > >> > >> BR > >> > >> Johan Leide > >> > >> >> Word of caution... JPEG-encoded EPS files are not compatible with all > >> >> imaging systems (not even all PS Level 2 versions). This won't matter > >> >> much if the destination is PDF and, best of all, the JPEG compression in > >> >> Photoshop, when set to Maximum Quality, is clean and SMALL! > >> > > >> >great post about using Quark with eps Jpegs - I thought I would share > >> >some related testing results I did recently. > >> > > >> >I have had several of you email me concerning how Adobe Distiller creates > >> >and or modifies images - and if there are any advantages or benifits > >> >(Distillation time, resulting PDF file size) of building documents with a > >> >particular type of image. > >> > > >> >As I had not tested this, well, all I could say is "heck if I know" - but > >> >I don't think it matters one bit - they should all be the same" - > >> > > >> >But as i am paid to be a PDF evangelist - that was a pretty wussy excuse > >> >- so i performed the following test. > >> > > >> >Using Adobe PhotoShop, a saved a single image file in the following > >> >formats: > >> > > >> >1117k Scitex CT > >> >1116k Tiff > >> > 854k Tiff with LZW encoding > >> >1399k EPS with Binary data encoding > >> > 269k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting. > >> > > >> >I then placed each in a separated (but identical) Quark XPress document > >> >and saved each page as an eps: > >> > > >> >1100k Scitex CT Quark XPress page saved as eps > >> >1100k Tiff Quark XPress page saved as eps > >> >1100k Tiff with LZW encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps > >> >1400k EPS with Binary data encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps > >> > 368k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting) > >> >Quark XPress page as eps. > >> > > >> >I then Distilled each of these PDF files using identcal Distiller > >> >settings - in particular, In the Distiller Job Options compression dialog > >> >box, I used Manual compression selecting JPEG low (amount). > >> > > >> > 644k Scitex CT saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > >> > 644k Tiff saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > >> > 644k Tiff with LZW encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > >> > 644k EPS with Binary data encoding saved in eps and Distilled to PDF > >> >format > >> > 598k EPS with JPEG encoding (I selected the "Maximum Quality" setting > >> >saved in eps and Distilled to PDF format > >> > > >> >I am not actually certain why the eps that was made with the JPEG > >> >encoding is slightly smaller -(technically, it should not be) - possibly > >> >it fell under the block space of my hard drive - maybe not - one of our > >> >engineers explained that the disk overhead (read/write) may account for > >> >the speed (Distiiler must read, write a scratch file, write out a new PDF > >> >file, then compress it in memory I suppose) - > >> > > >> >The result is that it does not make a PDF file larger or smaller if you > >> >use on image file format over another - execpt eps with jpeg encoding. > >> > > >> >The time to distil each of these eps files did vary, but not by much: > >> > > >> >33 seconds Scitex CT Quark XPress page saved as eps > >> >31 seconds Tiff Quark XPress page saved as eps > >> >31 seconds Tiff with LZW encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps > >> >38 seconds EPS with Binary data encoding Quark XPress page saved as eps > >> >29 seconds EPS with JPEG encoding (with "Maximum Quality" setting Quark > >> >XPress page as eps. > >> > > >> >So as Roseanne a dan a danna said - it just goes to show ya - its always > >> >something. if its not one thing, its another. > >> > > >> >So i guess using (and Distilling) eps with jpeg data encoding is smaller > >> >and faster. size does matter. > >> > > >> >*smile* > > Johan Leide > Teknik i Media > 040-97 33 10 > 0706-72 00 35 > Http://www.tim.se > johan.leide@tim.se 24-Jun-1998 16:02:40-GMT,2563;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22942 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:02:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32664; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:52:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:49:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32504; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:49:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3591200F.A5F3BA0C@ippu.purdue.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:49:35 -0500 From: "Barbara J. Doremire" Organization: Purdue Programs for Study Abroad X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] How to distill scanned documents with both images and text Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I asked this question a few weeks ago, I received one response, (THANK YOU!) and one request to forward any answers because they had the same problem. I am working on NT4 with distiller 3.01. I need to make PDF documents for the web from paper documents. Most of these documents have both full-color images and text on them. I know it can be done. Here is one that has clear images AND clear text and was made into pdf from paper. See page 2. Here is one that I made by scanning in at 300 dpi as an eps, then opening in PageMaker and printing to ps, then distilling via Distiller. The text is horribly fuzzy and gets worse as you magnify it. If I scan it in at lower dpi, (200 and 250) the text gets better, (not great) and the pictures look bad. This answer is probably something simple, but I have looked at the on-line manuals and ca find nothing that refers to this problem. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Barbara e-mail: bjd@ippu.purdue.edu http://www.ippu.purdue.edu/sa 24-Jun-1998 16:04:45-GMT,2757;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22986 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:04:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32500; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:49:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:47:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32357; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:47:14 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD9F97.D36DABE0@pC19F3290.dip.t-online.de> To: "'PDF-List'" Cc: "'Linda Bajumpaa'" Subject: AW: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:38:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: 0211682900-0001@t-online.de From: tm_consult@t-online.de (Thomas Mueller) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA32354 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Linda, do you use Acrobat Reader or Acrobat Exchange, and do you use Windows or do you use a Mac, and do you use Netscape or do you use Microsoft? For instance in Netscape Navigator with Windows you can klick a link to a PDF file with the right-hand-side mousebutton, and the you can select Save-Link-To-Disk. Regards. Tom + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Thomas Mueller Author and Consultant for Digital Communication P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html ---------- Von: Linda Bajumpaa Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 1998 16:02 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am looking for a plug in for Acrobat that will allow me to save a document to my hard drive after downloading it online. Is there a plug in that will add an icon to the toolbar? 24-Jun-1998 16:18:44-GMT,3092;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23391 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:18:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00704; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:05:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:02:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00456; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:02:41 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD9F97.D907FF60@pC19F3290.dip.t-online.de> To: "'PDF-List'" Cc: "'RobertB425@aol.com'" Subject: AW: Re: [PDF] Word documents to PDF Files. Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:41:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: 0211682900-0001@t-online.de From: tm_consult@t-online.de (Thomas Mueller) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA00453 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Robert, for Windows Word 98 theres a Visual-Basic-For-Application-macro available, called PDFMaker. I do not really know, if the plan a version for MacOS. But a transfer to some Windows Word 98 could make more sense than to FrameMaker. Regards Tom + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Thomas Mueller Author and Consultant for Digital Communication P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html ---------- Von: RobertB425@aol.com Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 1998 16:30 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: Re: Re: [PDF] Word documents to PDF Files. ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am new to PDF. I am in the process of writing the 2nd edition of my published textbook as a PDF web/electronic/CD book. My original is in MSWord 6 for the Macintosh. I have recently acquired MSWord 98 for the Mac. MSWord 98 has linking capability. How can I put the hotlinks in my MSWord 98 file and then print to a ps file for Distiller with the links intact. I tried it on a short file, and the links are not there after distilling. I know that FrameMaker will do this, but the time to convert from Word to FrameMaker is too long - too many changes. Thanks. 24-Jun-1998 16:23:24-GMT,1844;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23490 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:23:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00746; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:06:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:04:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00581; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:04:31 -0500 MR-Received: by mta MIMAS.MUAS; Relayed; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:04:29 +0000 MR-Received: by mta VESTA; Relayed; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:06:10 +0000 Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:04:29 +0000 (GMT) From: "Lex Jansen ++31 (0)412 661124" Subject: [PDF] Named destinations To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <3029041824061998/A06639/MIMAS/11C6C4841C00*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: 11C6C4841C00 X400-MTS-identifier: [;3029041824061998/A06639/MIMAS] Hop-count: 1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hi, can somebody tell me what the maximum number of named destinations is when I distill with Acrobat distiller 3.02 ? Thanks. Lex Jansen NV Organon DCTO/Biometrics The Netherlands 24-Jun-1998 16:39:00-GMT,1914;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24109 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:38:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01513; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:19:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:17:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01346; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:17:07 -0500 From: "Michael L. Jewell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] large forms display with Communicator plug-in Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:16:54 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.4 Build (40) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Some of our users have trouble displaying large forms with Reader as a plug-in to Netscape Communicator/Navigator 4.x. The first page displays without fields and the fields may be added a minute or 2 later, but often it takes longer and the user gives up. Navigator 3.x and IE display them fine, even on the same PC. These forms are 3 to 5 pages, with lots of checkboxes and other fields. They range from 500 to 900 KB. Any ideas? -- Mike Jewell mlj3u@virginia.edu 804-982-2175 24-Jun-1998 16:45:00-GMT,1855;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24231 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:44:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02332; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:31:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:28:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02127; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:28:41 -0500 Message-ID: <35912AAF.5C069328@tsi-net.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:34:55 -0700 From: Russell Hansberry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat References: <3.0.5.32.19980624073212.007ec3d0@mailhost.fourgen.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Scott, > Using Netscape, right-click on the pdf link and select Save link as... and > you can save the PDF to your hard drive. I'm sure IE has something similar. This problem has been bugging me for quite a while. Thanks for supplying the solution. When I miss something important like that, the obvious question is "Where did you learn this?", so I can modify my learning processes to pick up such things. Russell Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com 24-Jun-1998 16:56:51-GMT,1830;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24519 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:56:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03105; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:44:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:41:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02902; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:41:51 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:38:16 +0100 Message-ID: <001301bd9f8e$df4a41c0$b85695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199806241403.KAA23469@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > I am looking for a plug in for Acrobat that will allow me to save a > document to my hard drive after downloading it online. Is > there a plug in > that will add an icon to the toolbar? > Exchange or Reader? It is forbidden to write Reader plug-ins to do this. Aandi 24-Jun-1998 16:57:13-GMT,2247;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24535 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:57:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03106; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:44:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:41:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02882; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:41:47 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Search in a browser Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:37:45 +0100 Message-ID: <001201bd9f8e$ddd15d60$b85695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <01BD9F55.34C98320.mastephenson@syrres.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Correct - no search function using Reader in a browser. Just > heard a rumor this may be fixed in 4.0 (and I usually hate rumors). > > Mark This would be an interesting challenge. To "fix" it, i.e. allow searching with no software installed on the server, would require that the indexing system be completely re-architected; text retrieval systems have very sophisticated indexes, and random access is required. HTTP and byteserving just aren't up to the job. Perhaps a redesigned index structure would just about work with byteserving, albeit slowly. Personally, I doubt it will be "fixed", in as much as it isn't broken; but it would be nice to see more server solutions available. Aandi 24-Jun-1998 16:58:11-GMT,2172;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24563 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:58:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03313; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:46:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:44:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03069; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:43:59 -0500 Message-ID: <001301bd9f8f$33e928e0$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: Re: [PDF] How to distill scanned documents with both images and text Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:43:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Are you scanning the pictures and then using Acrobat Capture to create the PDF? or are you just scanning the picture, printing to PS and then distilling? If you don't capture it, then you aren't performing any OCR in which case, you won't get the nice text because it will be one big bitmap. The method I have been following is as follows: Scan to TIFF Use acrobat capture to OCR and create PDF (this results in a rather large PDF) to get the size back down, I open the PDF, print to postscript and then distill it using ZIP/JPEG Medium knocks our files down to 1/12th their original size, but the pictures get a little bit fuzzier.... hope this helps., Brett 24-Jun-1998 17:02:17-GMT,3285;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24632 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:02:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03486; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:48:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:46:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03281; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:46:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199806241645.MAA09104@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> From: "Linda Bajumpaa" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:44:04 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Sorry for the confusion......I use Windows and Internet Explorer which opens Reader when downloading a PDF. I do, however, have Exchange and would like to substitute it in that process, but am not sure how to re-configure the system to do it. I did discover a plug-in that will add three buttons to the Exchange toolbar when open in IE--send, save as, and transfer to Acrobat Exchange--when RTS Joust.........http://www.roundtable.com.au. Any help or comments would be appreciated. Thanks. > + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - > Linda, > > do you use Acrobat Reader or Acrobat Exchange, and do you use Windows or do you use a Mac, and do you use Netscape or do you use Microsoft? > > For instance in Netscape Navigator with Windows you can klick a link to a PDF file with the right-hand-side mousebutton, and the you can select Save-Link-To-Disk. > > Regards. > > Tom > > > + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - > Thomas Mueller > > Author and Consultant for Digital Communication > P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany > Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 > http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html > > ---------- > Von: Linda Bajumpaa > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 1998 16:02 > An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Betreff: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > I am looking for a plug in for Acrobat that will allow me to save a > document to my hard drive after downloading it online. Is there a plug in > that will add an icon to the toolbar? > 24-Jun-1998 17:18:01-GMT,1562;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25083 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:17:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04302; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:59:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:57:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04133; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:57:35 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:57:22 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: [PDF] Catalog limits? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691B94@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Does anyone know where I can find the limits for indexing PDF file with Acrobat Catalog? The current application only seem to allow about 1600 files of 3 to 15 pages in length. And these are screen pages 5.35 by 6.45. Jim watson@battelle.org 24-Jun-1998 17:20:09-GMT,2383;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25181 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:20:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04872; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:06:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:03:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04624; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:03:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3591312E.680671FA@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:02:38 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Search in a browser References: <001201bd9f8e$ddd15d60$b85695c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Aandi Inston wrote: > > This would be an interesting challenge. To "fix" it, i.e. allow > searching with no software installed on the server, would require that > the indexing system be completely re-architected; text retrieval > systems have very sophisticated indexes, and random access is > required. HTTP and byteserving just aren't up to the job. Perhaps > a redesigned index structure would just about work with byteserving, > albeit slowly. That's the way I would like to see it work as well...tight integration between existing search interface and server software. Perhaps the "fix" people are referring to is adding the ability to the plug-in to access indexes on just the local file system, though, or possibly adding the ability for the search plug-in to work as described above with only one type of server engine (Verity)? Don't mean to spread the misinformation. Anybody know anything concrete about this? Cory Snavely The Beacon Group 24-Jun-1998 17:21:45-GMT,2793;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25281 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:21:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04601; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:03:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:00:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04433; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:00:56 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] How to distill scanned documents with both images and text Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:59:52 +0100 Message-ID: <001501bd9f91$8a1be480$b85695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3591200F.A5F3BA0C@ippu.purdue.edu> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > I need to make PDF documents for the web from paper > documents. Most of > these documents have both full-color images and text on them. > I know it > can be done. Here is one that has clear images AND clear text and was > made into pdf from paper. > > > See page 2. This contains real text and fonts. It either was NOT made by scanning an original (e.g. the document could have been re-made), or Capture has been used to good effect. What do you know about how the file was made? > > Here is one that I made by scanning in at 300 dpi as an eps, then > opening in PageMaker and printing to ps, then distilling via > Distiller. > > > > The text is horribly fuzzy and gets worse as you magnify it. > If I scan > it in at lower dpi, (200 and 250) the text gets better, (not > great) and > the pictures look bad. Not only is this a scan of text, rather than real or captured text, you have allowed Distiller to subsample to 72 dpi and apply heavy JPEG compression. I suggest you work through the Acrobat 3.0 tutorials, especially the Tour, and the one on Capture. Aandi 24-Jun-1998 17:29:31-GMT,3841;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25466 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:29:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05533; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:15:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:13:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05258; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:13:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD9F70.2F538C40.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Hidden Text and Searching Diacritics.... Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:01:19 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" You can review and edit Hidden Text(ie. the OCR output) with Acrobat Reviewer. The files that Acrobat capture generates while converting to image plus hidden text are an ACI file(for each page and is the graphic representation of it) and the ACD file of the document. The ACD file is the one you edit. When you editing is complete just save as ACD, then save as the file format you wish from the drop down. Not sure about the embedding issue. Capture 2.01 works much better than the older versions of capture. However, there is a hardware key with it. Comes out to about 3cents per page, unless you purchase a large quantity. Kevin Wagner Operations Manager Document Conversion Services Ridgway's Imaging -----Original Message----- From: J. White [SMTP:jfwhite@u.washington.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 12:50 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Hidden Text and Searching Diacritics.... ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I work in a large research library-- we're trying to create a PDF document from an MS Word file which contains transliterated Arabic (including some diacritic characters). For example: Qu'ran (with the apostrophe being an 'ayn' symbol etc.). The document uses a special font which includes the diacritics. The problem: The document needs to be searchable *but* the words with diacritics won't search correctly (or at all) in Acrobat Reader no matter what we do. 'Wildcard' characters don't work. 1) Have also tried converting as image with hidden text but can't figure out how to view or change the 'hidden' text. (i.e. if I could make the word Qu'ran searchable as Quran, this would solve our problems). Is viewing or changing the 'hidden text' possible, and if so how? 2) Would embedding the font solve the searching problem and make wildcard searching possible? i.e. Qu?an or etc.? How do I embed a font from a Word Document? I'm pretty much still at the learning stage, so apologies in advance if this is basic stuff! I would appreciate any ideas/suggestions -- many thanks, Jake White University of Washington Libraries, Seattle 24-Jun-1998 17:30:11-GMT,2568;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25473 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:30:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05605; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:16:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:14:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05354; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:14:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:03:55 +0100 Message-ID: <001601bd9f93$697f4800$b85695c1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <35912AAF.5C069328@tsi-net.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Using Netscape, right-click on the pdf link and select Save > link as... and > > you can save the PDF to your hard drive. I'm sure IE has > something similar. > > This problem has been bugging me for quite a while. Thanks > for supplying > the solution. > > When I miss something important like that, the obvious question is > "Where did you learn this?", so I can modify my learning processes to > pick up such things. This is an interesting question. You are certainly not alone, so it cannot be obvious. However, ever since Windows 95 came out, and in some cases before, Microsoft have been pushing "right click" for context-sensitive menus. In many programs, if you don't right click, you will never know about a lot of the features in a program. This is compounded in a browser because everything appears pretty simple - there seems no need to look for more features, or read any documentation. So if in doubt, right click. Not wildly, because you may get a different menu depending on what you click on. Aandi 24-Jun-1998 17:30:49-GMT,2095;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25485 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:30:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05683; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:17:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:15:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05463; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:15:12 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD9F72.142E2AE0.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for June-24-98 [V2 #251] Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:14:53 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I'm experiencing a very weird problem using PDFwriter. Beginning recently, whenever I use it to print a file, it will not prompt me for a filename, etc, but writes the file to "whowins.pdf" in directories that naturally I didn't select (C:\, windows, etc). Successive prints to pdf will overwrite the existing file "whowins", naturally, with the current file. I've never specified "whowins" as a filename for any file I can remember, and have checked the properties of PDF writer and reinstalled it, to no avail. I've been using it, until recently, quite normally. Geez. It almost sounds like a joke or virus, but scans reveal nothing. Any ideas? Mark Mark Stephenson SoftWare Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com 24-Jun-1998 17:31:06-GMT,4916;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25489 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:31:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05809; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:19:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:17:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05619; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:16:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:16:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Robert J. Robbins" To: "Barbara J. Doremire" cc: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How to distill scanned documents with both images and text In-Reply-To: <3591200F.A5F3BA0C@ippu.purdue.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" If you just want to produce image PDF files (i.e., no OCR and no typesetting) the simplest way I have found is to use a product called Visioneer (http://www.visioneer.com). This is a piece of software that runs between the scanner and applications that use the scanned images. It also automatically detects during installation any software with which it can communicate automatically and installs links. After you've scanned in your source document into Visioneer, just drag the file to the Acrobat icon on the auto link control panel and a PDF is automatically created. This can also be done from within Exchange, using the File Import command to import graphics files (e.g., TIFFs), but if multiple pages are involved and you've not been able to create a multi-page TIFF file, this can be tedious. Also, I've occasionally run into problems with PDF page size if I scan directly to TIFF, then import into Exchange. Basically, I have found that using Visioneer to manage the scanning process (and the creation of multi-page TIFF files) reduces the problem of creating image facsimile PDF files to be almost trivial. As an example of such a file, created in this manner, see http://www.esp.org/foundations/genetics/classical/gm-65-f.pdf This is an image facsimile of the first edition an important scientific papers, originally published in 1866, that I have converted to an image facsimile PDF file. ========================================================================== Robert J. Robbins, PhD rrobbins@fhcrc.org Vice President for Information Technology Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Avenue North, LV-101 (206) 667-4778 Seattle, Washington 98109-1024 FAX: (206) 667-6223 ========================================================================== On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Barbara J. Doremire wrote: > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > I asked this question a few weeks ago, I received one response, (THANK > YOU!) and one request to forward any answers because they had the same > problem. I am working on NT4 with distiller 3.01. > > I need to make PDF documents for the web from paper documents. Most of > these documents have both full-color images and text on them. I know it > can be done. Here is one that has clear images AND clear text and was > made into pdf from paper. > > > See page 2. > > Here is one that I made by scanning in at 300 dpi as an eps, then > opening in PageMaker and printing to ps, then distilling via Distiller. > > > > The text is horribly fuzzy and gets worse as you magnify it. If I scan > it in at lower dpi, (200 and 250) the text gets better, (not great) and > the pictures look bad. > > This answer is probably something simple, but I have looked at the > on-line manuals and ca find nothing that refers to this problem. Any > help will be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks, > > Barbara > e-mail: bjd@ippu.purdue.edu > http://www.ippu.purdue.edu/sa > > 24-Jun-1998 17:32:44-GMT,1751;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25551 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:32:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05855; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:20:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:17:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05688; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:17:44 -0500 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Catalog limits? Message-Id: <"0624171647-Re: PDF Catalog limits?"@MHS> Date: 24 Jun 1998 12:14:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >Does anyone know where I can find the limits for indexing PDF file with >Acrobat Catalog? > >The current application only seem to allow about 1600 files of 3 to 15 pages >in length. And these are screen pages 5.35 by 6.45. >Jim >watson@battelle.org Well, I just built a catalog of 52 documents, ranging from 200-odd to 20,000-odd pages for a total of 419MB. It took much longer than I'd hoped, but it worked. Joel Finkle joel.finkle@monsanto.com 24-Jun-1998 17:35:05-GMT,2878;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25601 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:35:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06170; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:24:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:21:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05993; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:21:38 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:19:56 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] large forms display with Communicator plug-in Cc: "Michael L. Jewell" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Mike, have you optimized the PDF files? The symptoms you describe sound like the base PDF file loads first completely, and then the form fields are added. The link in the sig points to some rather complex forms, being 2 or 3 pages and having about 80 visible and invisible fields per page. The biggest (Timing Belts) is around 430 kB in size. These forms are optimized ... saving not optimized would lead to 1.2 or so MB file sizes). With a 33600 baud connection, it takes less than a minute to load the forms. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Some of our users have trouble displaying large forms with >Reader as a plug-in to Netscape Communicator/Navigator 4.x. The >first page displays without fields and the fields may be >added a minute or 2 later, but often it takes longer and the user >gives up. Navigator 3.x and IE display them fine, even on the same >PC. These forms are 3 to 5 pages, with lots of checkboxes and other >fields. They range from 500 to 900 KB. > >Any ideas? >-- >Mike Jewell mlj3u@virginia.edu 804-982-2175 24-Jun-1998 17:35:23-GMT,2533;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25614 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:35:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06145; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:23:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:21:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05947; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:21:28 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199806241403.KAA23469@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:04:17 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat Cc: "Linda Bajumpaa" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Linda, if you access the file from a link in your browser, you have the possibility to safe that link to disk. On a Mac it is usually pressing down the mouse button on the link until a menu appears, on Wintel, it is pressing the right mouse button on the link which opens a menu. Then select "Save thil link to disk...". The exact wording varies from browser to browser. In Netscape Navigator, it is also possible to get the source of the page. This also works with PDFs. BTW, you can try it out from the link in the sig . Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >I am looking for a plug in for Acrobat that will allow me to save a >document to my hard drive after downloading it online. Is there a plug in >that will add an icon to the toolbar? 24-Jun-1998 17:47:06-GMT,2225;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25910 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:47:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06144; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:23:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:21:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05951; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:21:30 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3029041824061998/A06639/MIMAS/11C6C4841C00*@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:11:54 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Named destinations Cc: "Lex Jansen ++31 (0)412 661124" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Lex, When you distill with Acrobat 2 compatibility on, the limit is a few thousand. When you distill with Acrobat 2 compatibility off, it is essentially unlimited (or at a _very_ high limit. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Hi, >can somebody tell me what the maximum number of named destinations is when I >distill with Acrobat distiller 3.02 ? >Thanks. > > >Lex Jansen >NV Organon >DCTO/Biometrics >The Netherlands 24-Jun-1998 19:36:46-GMT,2447;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28616 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:36:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12083; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:19:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:15:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11884; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:15:37 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFWriter problems Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:52:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd9fa4$5a94dc40$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01BD9F72.142E2AE0.mastephenson@syrres.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" See if you can find the string whowins in either win.ini or any file called __pdf.ini. If you find it, remove the line. Aandi > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > I'm experiencing a very weird problem using PDFwriter. > Beginning recently, > whenever I use it to print a file, it will not prompt me for > a filename, > etc, but writes the file to "whowins.pdf" in directories that > naturally I > didn't select (C:\, windows, etc). Successive prints to pdf > will overwrite > the existing file "whowins", naturally, with the current > file. I've never > specified "whowins" as a filename for any file I can > remember, and have > checked the properties of PDF writer and reinstalled it, to > no avail. I've > been using it, until recently, quite normally. Geez. It > almost sounds > like a joke or virus, but scans reveal nothing. Any ideas? > 24-Jun-1998 20:04:34-GMT,3136;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29219 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13346; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:46:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:43:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13210; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:43:55 -0500 Message-ID: <35915873.858D2D98@tsi-net.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:50:11 -0700 From: Russell Hansberry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat References: <001601bd9f93$697f4800$b85695c1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Aandi, It is unfortunate that some professional products contain unnecessary impediments to use. The information you privided as to how you discovered this feature is very valuable. I appreciate sharing your insights. You have my gratitude. Russell Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com Aandi Inston wrote: > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > > > Using Netscape, right-click on the pdf link and select Save > > link as... and > > > you can save the PDF to your hard drive. I'm sure IE has > > something similar. > > > > This problem has been bugging me for quite a while. Thanks > > for supplying > > the solution. > > > > When I miss something important like that, the obvious question is > > "Where did you learn this?", so I can modify my learning processes to > > pick up such things. > > This is an interesting question. You are certainly not alone, so it > cannot be obvious. > > However, ever since Windows 95 came out, and in some cases before, > Microsoft have been pushing "right click" for context-sensitive menus. > In many programs, if you don't right click, you will never know about > a lot of the features in a program. > > This is compounded in a browser because everything appears pretty > simple - there seems no need to look for more features, or read any > documentation. > > So if in doubt, right click. Not wildly, because you may get a different > menu depending on what you click on. > > Aandi 24-Jun-1998 20:06:52-GMT,2542;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29326 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13550; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:50:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:48:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13409; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:48:02 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug in for Acrobat Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:48:00 +0100 Message-ID: <003901bd9fa8$fe1edec0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <35912AAF.5C069328@tsi-net.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Using Netscape, right-click on the pdf link and select Save link as... and > you can save the PDF to your hard drive. I'm sure IE has something similar. This is however a real pain from the "process" perspective. Typically I will want to see the file prior to downloading it. There, using the RH click approach, I need to view the file and then "go back" in order to download it. The RTSjoust product allows me to do this from within the window when viewing the file - its not expensive and can be purchased instantly over the net. I recommend it as it also solves another of my problems which is e-mailing the file I am currently viewing. BTW: No commercial interest I just use it. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat 24-Jun-1998 20:10:21-GMT,3523;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29402 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:10:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13923; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:59:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:56:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13790; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: <35915B7D.B4A53E2D@tsi-net.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:03:09 -0700 From: Russell Hansberry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Search in a browser References: <001201bd9f8e$ddd15d60$b85695c1@gateway> <3591312E.680671FA@beacon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Cory, There is a flip side to this coin. Tight integration can be a problem if the technology is not a standard (unless you are trying to protect it from unauthorized access). Also the incorporation of many standards can lead to bloated software and loss of ability to innovate. I am sure there is more to this flip side of the coin. A wise man once said, "Be careful what you wish for, you might get it." I am not taking a position against what you are saying. I am making a statement about thinking processes in general. Tight integration has both advantages and disadvantages over simpler more genral solutions. Design decisions are rarely as clear cut as they initially appear. Russell Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com Cory Snavely wrote: > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Aandi Inston wrote: > > > > This would be an interesting challenge. To "fix" it, i.e. allow > > searching with no software installed on the server, would require that > > the indexing system be completely re-architected; text retrieval > > systems have very sophisticated indexes, and random access is > > required. HTTP and byteserving just aren't up to the job. Perhaps > > a redesigned index structure would just about work with byteserving, > > albeit slowly. > > That's the way I would like to see it work as well...tight integration between > existing search interface and server software. Perhaps the "fix" people are > referring to is adding the ability to the plug-in to access indexes on just the > local file system, though, or possibly adding the ability for the search plug-in > to work as described above with only one type of server engine (Verity)? > > Don't mean to spread the misinformation. Anybody know anything concrete about > this? > > Cory Snavely > The Beacon Group 24-Jun-1998 20:54:06-GMT,2233;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00509 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:54:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15695; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:35:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:32:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15552; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:32:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Occasional missing apostrophes and quotes Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:33:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" We experience occasional missing apostrophes and quotes in PDFs when we distill using the Distill 3.0 print driver for Windows 95 or the Distill 3.0 print driver for Windows NT on their respective platforms. The PPD used was for distill with print to file selected which is exactly what we are trying to do. The one machine which seems to leave apostrophes and quotes in tact is running Windows 95. The reason it does not delete apostrophes and quotes we hypothesize is that it contains a larger number of fonts. We are very unsure of this hypothesis. Due to the nature of our business, we need to keep file sizes small. Loading a ton of fonts on every machine is not an option. Is there a font substitution table somewhere (registry?) that is editable in Distiller? Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org 24-Jun-1998 20:54:50-GMT,1621;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00532 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:54:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15652; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:34:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:31:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15457; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:31:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:30:00 -0700 X-Priority: 3 From: "Deya, Mike" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Reader integration into Internet Explorer To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is it possible to display PDF files in MS Internet Explorer's own window instead of having it launch Acrobat Reader? I am trying to view PDF files I've placed on our network (not on a web server or anything like that). 24-Jun-1998 21:08:07-GMT,1770;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00878 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:08:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16576; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:54:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:50:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16334; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:50:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:36:00 -0700 X-Priority: 3 From: "Deya, Mike" Subject: [PDF] PDF file viewing in Lotus's CC:Mail ???? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is it possible to display PDF files in Lotus's CC:Mail own window instead of having it launch Acrobat Reader? CC:Mail comes with a series of viewers for various file types, but not one for PDF as far as I know. I believe at one time you could add filters made by INSO Corp. that acted as the viewer...but I don't know if there is one for the PDF format. 24-Jun-1998 21:33:29-GMT,3345;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01514 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:33:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17367; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:12:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:08:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17198; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:08:44 -0500 Message-ID: <003b01bd9fb4$4ac9a2e0$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Running from the CD Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:08:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" John, We do this all the time. We find it best to create the CD master on a Mac (we use Toast). Toast will create a hybred ISO/HFS volume. Also on the Mac you can set up your Mac folder to look nice and set it to open automatically when the CD is inserted. We often set up the Mac folder to have only the Highest level PDF and an alias (Mac shortcut) to the Adobe Acrobat installer visible. On the Windows95+ and Windows3.1 side we create our own installer "front end" which creates folders/groups, adds icons, etc. and then optionally calls the appropriate Acrobat installer to install Acrobat. The Unix side is messy since the different flavors of Unix each have an installer script, so we just point Unix users to the appropriate installer script and let them go to it. The key point is to let the Acrobat installer install Acrobat. Remember to watch out for file names. For best luck keep with the 8.3 filename convention which works with Window3.1 and all Unix. E-mail me privately if you need more info. Good luck. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. > >I'm repeating myself here, but I'm looking for anyone who's actually had >experience creating a CD with Acrobat already installed on it for multiple >platforms (Win3.1, Win95, Mac), so that the application runs from the CD. >(I know that I must include the original installer from Adobe.) _Somebody_ >told my boss it could be done, so I'm on the case. > >I'm using a Zip disk in order to test the disk image before burning a >CD-ROM. It was earlier stated that ATM is no longer needed to run Reader >from an external disk, but I continue to get messages stating that ATM >could not be found, and the program refuses to launch on the Mac. It seems >to work o.k. for WIN3.1. WIN95 keeps looking for a DLL and won't launch. > >Can this really be done? > >John Hricko >Penton New Media > > > 24-Jun-1998 21:34:04-GMT,2360;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01522 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:34:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17617; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:17:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:13:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17404; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:13:23 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:12:02 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Reader integration into Internet Explorer Cc: "Deya, Mike" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Mike, The tool to display PDF files is Acrobat Reader (or another PDF viewer). Internet Explorer uses the Reader engine to display PDFs within its own window (it will include an Acrobat Reader window). Read the ReadMe file with the Acrobat Reader installation on how to properly set up IE. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ > Is it possible to display PDF files in MS Internet Explorer's own > window instead of having it launch Acrobat Reader? > > I am trying to view PDF files I've placed on our network (not on a web > server or anything like that). 24-Jun-1998 21:34:31-GMT,1984;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01532 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:34:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17970; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:24:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:20:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17787; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:20:30 -0500 Message-ID: <008d01bd9fb5$ed48a560$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Catalog limits? Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:20:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Jim, Look for the Acrocat.ini folder (if you are in Windows). I think it is in the Windows folder. Open it up and set the DocumentWordSelectionsSection to 2 or 3 for medium or large model and give that a go. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. > >Does anyone know where I can find the limits for indexing PDF file with >Acrobat Catalog? > >The current application only seem to allow about 1600 files of 3 to 15 pages >in length. And these are screen pages 5.35 by 6.45. > >Jim >watson@battelle.org > 24-Jun-1998 21:53:15-GMT,2182;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02184 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:53:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18652; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:42:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:38:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18510; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:38:16 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980624174031.0095a740@mailman.epnet.com> X-Sender: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:40:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com (Andrew Lindsay) Subject: [PDF] Image Only PDFs with good images and text? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is there a way to scan pages with text and photo images for grayscale Image Only PDFs so that the text stays basically black-and-white (i.e. binary, crisp and clear) while the images get the full grayscale treatment? The problem with the grayscale scans I've tried is the text gets blurry -- all the fine details of the letters turn to lighter shades of gray, not crisp black. The images look great. I thought some of the better OCR scanners had image processing boards with settings to automatically detect text or images and enhance them accordingly. I've tried the Image Emphasis/Image Enhancement settings on my Fujitsu 3097, but to no avail. Suggestions? Thanks, Andrew Lindsay Technical Manager - Electronic Publishing EBSCO Publishing Ipswich, MA 01938 (978) 356-6500 x268 24-Jun-1998 22:51:07-GMT,2922;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03575 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:51:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20555; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:25:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:21:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20244; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:21:15 -0500 Subject: [PDF] PS thru virtual printer on Mac Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:16:43 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1313417493-62347289@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" This question may only have an esoteric appeal, but I'm hoping not. I'm am trying to automate the process of printing a report to disk from FileMake Pro 4 to a watched folder for auto-Distilling to PDF. This is to automatically update a time sensitive report that is made available on our website. As a part of this strategy, I used the Desktop Printer Utility to create a virtual printer of type "Translator (PostScript)", which automatically writes to disk instead of to a printer. I selected the "Acrobat Distiller (PPD)" as the PPD choice. The problem I'm having is that the postscript file that is produced does not distill to what I expect. The orientation is portrait instead of landscape (how it is printed), and who knows what else is different. If I were to print the report manually using Laserwriter 8.5.1 and manually selecting "File" for the destination, then it distills fine as expected. I also tried a virtual printer of type "Printer (no printer connection)", but this produced a proprietary file (instead of ps) which could not be Distilled. I guess I'm asking if anyone has gotten the virtual printers to work correctly when printing ps for Distilling. What could I be doing wrong? Maybe I need to hack the Acrobat Distiller PPD a little so it doesn't change the original page setup/print dialog settings. Any help would be appreciated. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax 24-Jun-1998 22:51:32-GMT,2922;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03588 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20675; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:27:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:24:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20481; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:24:17 -0500 Subject: [PDF] PS thru virtual printer on Mac Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:16:43 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1313417493-62347289@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" This question may only have an esoteric appeal, but I'm hoping not. I'm am trying to automate the process of printing a report to disk from FileMake Pro 4 to a watched folder for auto-Distilling to PDF. This is to automatically update a time sensitive report that is made available on our website. As a part of this strategy, I used the Desktop Printer Utility to create a virtual printer of type "Translator (PostScript)", which automatically writes to disk instead of to a printer. I selected the "Acrobat Distiller (PPD)" as the PPD choice. The problem I'm having is that the postscript file that is produced does not distill to what I expect. The orientation is portrait instead of landscape (how it is printed), and who knows what else is different. If I were to print the report manually using Laserwriter 8.5.1 and manually selecting "File" for the destination, then it distills fine as expected. I also tried a virtual printer of type "Printer (no printer connection)", but this produced a proprietary file (instead of ps) which could not be Distilled. I guess I'm asking if anyone has gotten the virtual printers to work correctly when printing ps for Distilling. What could I be doing wrong? Maybe I need to hack the Acrobat Distiller PPD a little so it doesn't change the original page setup/print dialog settings. Any help would be appreciated. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax 24-Jun-1998 23:07:38-GMT,2725;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03959 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:07:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21987; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:55:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:51:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21769; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:51:26 -0500 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509641FF7@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] P/comp Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:52:00 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" P/Comp is a product of Radtke Consulting, Clearwater, FL. Robert Radtke, the principal, can be reached at rradtke@gte.net Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems 13133 34th Street North Clearwater, FL 33762 Voice: (813)572-2491 WWW: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: David Cornwell[SMTP:davec@docctrl.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 8:24 AM > To: PDF mailing list - technical > Subject: [PDF] P/comp > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Just had a query on PDF comparison. > > The only product which I recall doing this was called P/comp although > I > haven't seen it being mentioned recently. > > Any other products &/or details of how to track down P/comp gratefully > received. > > Thanks > > drc > --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > 24-Jun-1998 23:11:10-GMT,4389;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04054 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:11:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21998; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:56:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:53:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21864; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:53:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:52:32 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] PS thru virtual printer on Mac To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199806241852_MC2-5143-46BE@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA21861 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" What quite often is not clearly seen is that you should never choose Landscape orientation in the Page setup when preparing PostScript for Distiller. Don't know though if this is related to your problem. When using PSPrinter/Virtual Printer setup, you may have to enter custom page size values, if the document page is landscape. I did not test though if these settings are sticky. Olaf Druemmer > > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >This question may only have an esoteric appeal, but I'm hoping not. > >I'm am trying to automate the process of printing a report to disk from >FileMake Pro 4 to a watched folder for auto-Distilling to PDF. This is to >automatically update a time sensitive report that is made available on >our website. > >As a part of this strategy, I used the Desktop Printer Utility to create >a virtual printer of type "Translator (PostScript)", which automatically >writes to disk instead of to a printer. I selected the "Acrobat Distiller >(PPD)" as the PPD choice. > >The problem I'm having is that the postscript file that is produced does >not distill to what I expect. The orientation is portrait instead of >landscape (how it is printed), and who knows what else is different. If I >were to print the report manually using Laserwriter 8.5.1 and manually >selecting "File" for the destination, then it distills fine as expected. > >I also tried a virtual printer of type "Printer (no printer connection)", >but this produced a proprietary file (instead of ps) which could not be >Distilled. > >I guess I'm asking if anyone has gotten the virtual printers to work >correctly when printing ps for Distilling. What could I be doing wrong? >Maybe I need to hack the Acrobat Distiller PPD a little so it doesn't >change the original page setup/print dialog settings. > >Any help would be appreciated. > >Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net >EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 >InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jun-1998 23:46:23-GMT,2167;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04734 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:46:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23385; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:33:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:30:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23208; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:30:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199806242330.QAA29964@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:29:19 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Capture - Better on Windows 95 or NT? From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Lists Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Quick Question - I experience "PDFWriter - Out of memory" errors whenever I try to capture documents on Windows NT (even though we have 256 megs of RAM). Using the same installed version on Windows 95 I have no problem (yes, I remember to move the dongle between machines). I assume users here are running Capture on NT with success, but just to confirm (before I go through reinstall and system error checking)... Does Capture run any more consistently on Windows 95 than NT - or vice versa? Opinions are welcome. TIA, Scott PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com 24-Jun-1998 23:46:23-GMT,2172;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04733 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:46:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23398; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:34:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:30:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23156; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:30:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199806242329.QAA29920@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:30:41 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Watermark .tif files for a source From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Lists CC: PDF Capture Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am helping a client of mine set up an in-house imaging service bureau. We have been experimenting with Capture vs. Watermark for making image files. Watermark's are much smaller. We are considering standardizing on Watermark for creating our .tif files and if a client wants a .pdf conversion, we will simply convert the Watermark scans to .pdf using Acrobat Capture. Seems more compact and convenient. Question - Would we get better accuracy by using the larger Capture .tifs? TIA, Scott PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com 25-Jun-1998 0:41:50-GMT,3077;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05915 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:41:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25153; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:28:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:23:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24988; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:23:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199806250023.RAA08834@tully.jetstream.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Search in a browser Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:23:19 -0700 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Duane Bemister To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" WebSonar now supports text retrieval of PDF files. To see it work go to http://www.websonar.com/websonar/searchlevel25.html Choose "Search the PDF Sample Documents' from the popup menu and type print in the Phrase one field and click the Search button. The system includes a feature to add comments to every page and the ability to download the source document with a click of a button. If anyone is interested we now have six locations available on our server where you can try WebSonar out with your own documents. Announcement: Virginia Systems is pleased to announce WebSonar version 2. A complete drag, drop and browse document management system for AppleShare IP. In addition to all the Macintosh formats WebSonar now supports Microsoft Word PC versions 6 and 7 and PDF files directly on the Mac server. WebSonar allows you to search very large databases, standard legacy documents, PDF and html documents all at the same time. Files are dynamiclly translated to html and a download link can be displayed on every page to allow the client to retrieve the original file. The WisdomQuest eLibrary, served on a G3 with AppleShare IP6, now contains more than 100,000 documents with more being added every day. We have six locations on the server that can be used to allow your customers to put up their own files to try it out. The client can mount the volume with AppleShare, drag their files to the appropriate folders, and then use their browser to click a link that updates the indexes and begin searching their documents in a matter of minutes. WebSonar Version 2 is now shipping. Bringing Power Access by Sonar to the Web http://www.websonar.com/websonar/sonar.html Telephone: (250) 838-7874 25-Jun-1998 0:59:13-GMT,2323;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06224 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:59:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25946; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:50:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:46:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25797; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:46:21 -0500 X-ROUTED: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:46:14 -0400 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <01BD9FB1.06A5D140@s72.onix.com> From: Tony McKinley To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Catalog Limits Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:45:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA25791 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" The memory required to index a document is ten times the words in the document, 24 Mb RAM = 2.4 million words, according to the Catalog Online Guide. So, available RAM is something to check. You can drastically affect the size of the index, and indexing time, by only picking the Catalog term expansion options that your users might actually use and receive benefit from. According to Chris Warnock's definitive post: PDF Factoids - Courtesy of PDF Reference Manual 1.Maximum number of pages in a single PDF file: 32,000 ***2.Maximum number of documents in an Index: 8 million, or 4 Gigabytes*** 3.Maximum Bookmark depth, or levels: 20 4. Maximum Links per page: 500 5. Maximum Notes per page: 100 6. Page Sizes: 1" x 1" - 45" x 45" --- If all else fails, get a bigger computer. Tony McKinley >From Paper to Web - http://imagebiz.com 25-Jun-1998 1:00:35-GMT,2895;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06251 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:00:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25980; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:50:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:47:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25844; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:47:16 -0500 Message-ID: <35919E17.18B60123@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:47:19 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] large forms display with Communicator plug-in References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA25841 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Are you optimizing the files prior to putting them on the net? It may be an obvious question but I have forgotten to do that when doing haeavy editing on a pdf via Exchange. R. Moran Michael L. Jewell wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Some of our users have trouble displaying large forms with > Reader as a plug-in to Netscape Communicator/Navigator 4.x. The > first page displays without fields and the fields may be > added a minute or 2 later, but often it takes longer and the user > gives up. Navigator 3.x and IE display them fine, even on the same > PC. These forms are 3 to 5 pages, with lots of checkboxes and other > fields. They range from 500 to 900 KB. > > Any ideas? > -- > Mike Jewell mlj3u@virginia.edu 804-982-2175 -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 25-Jun-1998 5:29:11-GMT,3001;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11259 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:29:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01435; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:10:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:07:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01332; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:07:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000301bd9ff6$fa05d7a0$5900a8c0@dale.qspl.stpp.soft.net> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing errors with PostScript printers Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:25:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" -----Original Message----- From: Robert E. Moran To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing errors with PostScript printers > >Annick, a better way to go is to use Distiller. The way to do it, since Adobe >still does not have a distiller driver, is to use a good PS printer to print to >but instead of printing to paper, print to PS and put in in the "in" folder of >a Distiller watched folder. This workaround is more cleary explained in the >dc_acro.pdf that's on the DC site. HTH > >Bob Moran > >PS, the printer drivers are on the NT CD that comes with a new machine. Use >Printers to get a good PPD like the Apple Color LaserWriter 12/600. > Agree with your observation on using Distiller, but wanted to point out that Adobe does provide a driver specifically for Distiller. It's available on the Adobe web site...I can't recall the exact location, but if you poke around the file downloads or search for AdobePS5 you should come up with it... Given the Word 97 environment, Annick might also want to investigate PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 that allow you to easily set many output options and perform conversions of headings into bookmarks, comments into notes, and some other handy tricks. I have not been able to do a great deal of testing on my own, but looks interesting so far (note that PDFMaker will use either Distiller or PDFWriter, as preferred). Regards, Dale Gardner 25-Jun-1998 7:09:43-GMT,2151;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13286 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:09:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA03961; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:52:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:45:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA03798; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:45:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3591F27D.3DB95ABC@nng.net> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 16:48:20 +1000 From: Rod Peno Organization: NNG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <000301bd9ff6$fa05d7a0$5900a8c0@dale.qspl.stpp.soft.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Dale Gardner wrote: > > > > Given the Word 97 environment, Annick might also want to investigate > PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 that allow you to easily > set > many output options and perform conversions of headings into > bookmarks, > comments into notes, and some other handy tricks. I have not been able > to do > a great deal of testing on my own, but looks interesting so far (note > that > PDFMaker will use either Distiller or PDFWriter, as preferred). > > Regards, > > Dale Gardner Is PDFMaker a part of Word 97? Word97 Only? Is it downloadable from anywhere? Anyone had experience with this? thanks!! rod peno designer | nethead nemas http://www.nng.net 25-Jun-1998 9:18:47-GMT,2478;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15640 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 03:18:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07096; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 03:58:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 03:53:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06904; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 03:53:20 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:53:22 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bda016$b51949e0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3591F27D.3DB95ABC@nng.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Given the Word 97 environment, Annick might also want to investigate > PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 that allow you to easily > set > many output options and perform conversions of headings into > bookmarks, > comments into notes, and some other handy tricks. I have not been able > to do > a great deal of testing on my own, but looks interesting so far (note > that > PDFMaker will use either Distiller or PDFWriter, as preferred). PDFmaker will not produce "intelligent" PDF through PDFwriter. Local Render will produce "intelligent" PDF through PDFwriter - check out www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat 25-Jun-1998 9:28:45-GMT,4541;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15821 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 03:28:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06589; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 03:42:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 03:38:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06465; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 03:38:36 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA025.46B23480.mpeters@mapsoft.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Double-loading PDF when launching from Windows Explorer... Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:36:49 +0100 Organization: Mapsoft X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDA025.46B23480" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDA025.46B23480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thursday, June 25, 1998 2:20 AM Edwards, Thomas P wrote: >Has anyone had the problem that when you double-click a PDF, it launches Exchange and loads the document, but >twice!?!? > >I double-click the document which fires up Exchange, I see my document. I edit. I then try to Save and get a protection >violation error. What's strange is that Exchange 3.01 won't let you Open two copies of a PDF. I have seen this with badly behaved plug-ins that have taken over the file opening process. Have you got any custom plug-ins installed? 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In-Reply-To: <002001bd9f7c$d622ae00$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am also fairly new to pdf, but we are looking to convert all our internal standard office forms ie. fax headers etc to pdf so that they can be directly imported into word on the PC. I need to be able to insert specific text into a master document in word. Word does not import pdf's directly. Any ideas??? Dan Mason 25-Jun-1998 11:29:05-GMT,2241;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA17701 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 05:29:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10449; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 05:58:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 05:52:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10227; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 05:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: <000801bda027$33c3ca80$5900a8c0@dale.qspl.stpp.soft.net> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:51:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" -----Original Message----- From: David Cornwell To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thursday, June 25, 1998 5:00 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 <..> > >PDFmaker will not produce "intelligent" PDF through PDFwriter. Local Render >will produce "intelligent" PDF through PDFwriter - check out www.docctrl.com > >drc >--- >David Cornwell, Director - Business Development >Computerised Document Control Ltd >PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom >Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 >Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 >www.docctrl.com >Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > And "intelligent" PDF would be what??? 25-Jun-1998 11:42:30-GMT,1950;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA17943 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 05:42:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11157; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:22:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:17:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11000; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:17:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture - Better on Windows 95 or NT? Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:26:52 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bda02a$ad0fb400$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199806242330.QAA29964@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Quick Question - > > I experience "PDFWriter - Out of memory" errors whenever I > try to capture > documents on Windows NT (even though we have 256 megs of > RAM). Try this, if you are not capturing as an administrator: Logon as an administrator. Locate one or both __PDF.INI files (two underscores) Make them world-writeable. Logon as the end-user and try again. Aandi 25-Jun-1998 12:04:45-GMT,2028;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18336 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:04:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11674; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:36:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:31:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11499; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:31:13 -0500 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509642006@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] New header/banner Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:31:46 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is it just me or is this new header/banner (below) annoying to others. Given the volume of e-mail, I usually just scan title and first few lines. Based on this I read the whole thing or delete. With the new header I have to page down just to get the first few message lines on each and every message. Can we make it a footer? Thanks for letting me vent. > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > 25-Jun-1998 12:06:01-GMT,3382;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18362 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:06:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11409; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:28:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:23:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11193; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:23:38 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:21:45 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel Mason Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? In-Reply-To: <000601bda024$1d3325c0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" David, Sorry very unclear I suppose! All of our standard office documents (ie faxheaders, maps etc) have been created in QuarkXPress by our bureau on the Mac over about 5 years. The idea is to provide our admin dept. with these douments in a form that they can add specific text. Ideally with standard text fields similar to which you could fill in on the web? Short of creating the whole document again in word by the admin dept. and inserting all relevant (and varied) eps's, tiff's etc., the recent revelation of pdf (!) may help us to over come this, I just don't know how. If Word imported a pdf as it exports as a pdf, great, but it doesn't!! ...unless you know otherwise??? Thanks Daniel Mason In message <000601bda024$1d3325c0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com>, David Cornwell writes > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >> I am also fairly new to pdf, but we are looking to convert all our >> internal standard office forms ie. fax headers etc to pdf so that they >> can be directly imported into word on the PC. >> I need to be able to insert specific text into a master document in >> word. >> >> Word does not import pdf's directly. Any ideas??? > >Dan > >Not sure I understand what you are trying to achieve. Are you trying to >replace Word templates (.dot) files with PDFs in order to achieve "protected >areas" of the document? > >drc >--- >David Cornwell, Director - Business Development >Computerised Document Control Ltd >PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom >Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 >Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 >www.docctrl.com >Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > -- Daniel Mason 25-Jun-1998 12:18:21-GMT,2359;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18599 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:18:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09744; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 05:34:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 05:29:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09593; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 05:29:18 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:29:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bda024$1d3325c0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > I am also fairly new to pdf, but we are looking to convert all our > internal standard office forms ie. fax headers etc to pdf so that they > can be directly imported into word on the PC. > I need to be able to insert specific text into a master document in > word. > > Word does not import pdf's directly. Any ideas??? Dan Not sure I understand what you are trying to achieve. Are you trying to replace Word templates (.dot) files with PDFs in order to achieve "protected areas" of the document? drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat 25-Jun-1998 12:18:33-GMT,2093;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18615 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:18:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12744; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:04:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:58:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12439; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:58:24 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:20:45 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bda030$71e8d2c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > I am also fairly new to pdf, but we are looking to convert all our > internal standard office forms ie. fax headers etc to pdf so that they > can be directly imported into word on the PC. > I need to be able to insert specific text into a master document in > word. > > Word does not import pdf's directly. Any ideas??? I think you have made a strategic error. Word does not import the layout or graphical picture of a PDF file, and isn't likely to do so in the near future. That is not what PDF is for, attractive as it would be if it was. Aandi 25-Jun-1998 12:20:50-GMT,2162;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18657 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:20:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13020; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:09:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:04:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12780; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:04:51 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] New header/banner Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:03:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bda031$59a0e440$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509642006@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Is it just me or is this new header/banner (below) annoying to others. > Given the volume of e-mail, I usually just scan title and first few > lines. Based on this I read the whole thing or delete. With the new > header I have to page down just to get the first few message lines on > each and every message. Can we make it a footer? > > Thanks for letting me vent. > I'd be much happier with the banner at the end, because my mailer, Outlook, previews the first couple of lines of each message. I now have to open each message, which means I don't have time to read as many messages. Aandi 25-Jun-1998 12:23:26-GMT,1981;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18706 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:23:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12745; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:04:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:58:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12460; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:58:27 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 (irrelevant aside) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:27:08 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bda030$73becb40$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000801bda027$33c3ca80$5900a8c0@dale.qspl.stpp.soft.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > > >PDFmaker will not produce "intelligent" PDF through > PDFwriter. Local Render > >will produce "intelligent" PDF through PDFwriter - check out > www.docctrl.com > > ... > > > And "intelligent" PDF would be what??? > Oh, witty, articulate, able to converse in several languages, familiar with the classics, and completely unable to fix a broken automobile engine. Aandi 25-Jun-1998 12:24:57-GMT,3007;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18722 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:24:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13016; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:09:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:04:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12753; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:04:49 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:02:19 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bda031$586b2360$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > David, > > Sorry very unclear I suppose! > > All of our standard office documents (ie faxheaders, maps > etc) have been > created in QuarkXPress by our bureau on the Mac over about 5 years. > The idea is to provide our admin dept. with these douments in a form > that they can add specific text. Ideally with standard text fields > similar to which you could fill in on the web? > > Short of creating the whole document again in word by the admin dept. > and inserting all relevant (and varied) eps's, tiff's etc., the recent > revelation of pdf (!) may help us to over come this, I just don't know > how. > > If Word imported a pdf as it exports as a pdf, great, but it doesn't!! > ...unless you know otherwise??? > Forget Word. PDF doesn't really "go" anywhere. Once you have a PDF you stay with the Acrobat family of products. Also, Word is a poor tool for this sort of complex design, unless your forms are very simple in layout. That's why they would have been made in XPress in the first place. With Acrobat Exchange you can make PDF files fillable forms, where information can be typed. Then, anyone with Reader can 1. Fill the forms 2. Print them 3. Submit them to a web server The following tasks can be performed only with the full Exchange product, licensed per machine: 1. Add text where no form field is defined (hard work, not worth it). 2. Save filled forms. 3. Define and modify the form layout. Does that make things clearer? Aandi 25-Jun-1998 12:41:29-GMT,2632;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19006 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:41:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13682; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:23:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:18:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13381; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:18:12 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199806251218.AA11121@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 98 08:11:45 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file viewing in Lotus's CC:Mail ???? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" the best that you can hope for in cc:mail is to associate the file type with acrobat on your system. Select the attached .pdf in cc:mail and go to >Message>Run item>and make the association by giving the location of your acroread.exe (ie c:\acrobat3\reader\acrord.exe) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] PDF file viewing in Lotus's CC:Mail ???? Author: at ccnode Date: 6/25/98 8:08 AM ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is it possible to display PDF files in Lotus's CC:Mail own window instead of having it launch Acrobat Reader? CC:Mail comes with a series of viewers for various file types, but not one for PDF as far as I know. I believe at one time you could add filters made by INSO Corp. that acted as the viewer...but I don't know if there is one for the PDF format. 25-Jun-1998 12:42:01-GMT,2512;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19016 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:42:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13863; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:26:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:21:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13568; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:21:14 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:03:53 BST." <000301bda031$59a0e440$0101c6c0@gateway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:21:05 +0100 Message-ID: <8566.898777265@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:03:53 BST." <000301bda031$59a0e440$0101c6c0@gateway> -------- On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:03:53 BST, "Aandi Inston" wrote: > > Is it just me or is this new header/banner (below) annoying to others. > > Given the volume of e-mail, I usually just scan title and first few > > lines. Based on this I read the whole thing or delete. With the new > > header I have to page down just to get the first few message lines on > > each and every message. Can we make it a footer? > > > > Thanks for letting me vent. > > > > I'd be much happier with the banner at the end, because my mailer, > Outlook, previews the first couple of lines of each message. I now > have to open each message, which means I don't have time to read as > many messages. > > Aandi A cunning dodge to avoid the banner is to use MIME and make your message the first body part. Whatever is writing the banner stuffs it into the "This is a MIME-formatted message" guff.. But yes the banner should be put at the end instead. Chris 25-Jun-1998 12:45:50-GMT,2893;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19083 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:45:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13973; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:28:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:23:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13662; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:23:12 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199806251223.AA11537@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 98 08:15:45 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Image Only PDFs with good images and text? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Andrew, we've only been able to get quality results when using image editing software on the scans before creating the pdf... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] Image Only PDFs with good images and text? Author: at ccnode Date: 6/25/98 8:14 AM ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is there a way to scan pages with text and photo images for grayscale Image Only PDFs so that the text stays basically black-and-white (i.e. binary, crisp and clear) while the images get the full grayscale treatment? The problem with the grayscale scans I've tried is the text gets blurry -- all the fine details of the letters turn to lighter shades of gray, not crisp black. The images look great. I thought some of the better OCR scanners had image processing boards with settings to automatically detect text or images and enhance them accordingly. I've tried the Image Emphasis/Image Enhancement settings on my Fujitsu 3097, but to no avail. Suggestions? Thanks, Andrew Lindsay Technical Manager - Electronic Publishing EBSCO Publishing Ipswich, MA 01938 (978) 356-6500 x268 25-Jun-1998 12:51:31-GMT,2596;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19168 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:51:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14311; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:34:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:29:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14061; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:29:30 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:21:05 BST." <8566.898777265@isode.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:29:23 +0100 Message-ID: <8584.898777763@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:21:05 BST, Chris Ridd wrote: > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner > In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:03:53 BST." > <000301bda031$59a0e440$0101c6c0@gateway> > -------- > On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:03:53 BST, "Aandi Inston" wrote: > > > Is it just me or is this new header/banner (below) annoying to others. > > > Given the volume of e-mail, I usually just scan title and first few > > > lines. Based on this I read the whole thing or delete. With the new > > > header I have to page down just to get the first few message lines on > > > each and every message. Can we make it a footer? > > > > > > Thanks for letting me vent. > > > > > > > I'd be much happier with the banner at the end, because my mailer, > > Outlook, previews the first couple of lines of each message. I now > > have to open each message, which means I don't have time to read as > > many messages. > > > > Aandi > > A cunning dodge to avoid the banner is to use MIME and make your > message the first body part. Whatever is writing the banner stuffs it > into the "This is a MIME-formatted message" guff.. > > But yes the banner should be put at the end instead. > > Chris What's the inverse of QED? ;-) Chris 25-Jun-1998 12:57:24-GMT,1725;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19286 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:57:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15035; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:43:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:38:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14503; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:38:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3592442E.11BF@starnetinc.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:35:58 -0500 From: George Hunter X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner References: <8584.898777763@isode.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I agree. Please drop the banner to the end of the message. I only read the first few lines of mail messages to see if I want to continue. I will also put a plug in for thread responses. Please don't quote the entire original message. You, I, and everyone else on this list has seen it already. ...Snip it down to just the relevant parts. George 25-Jun-1998 12:58:08-GMT,2418;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19309 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:58:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15277; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:45:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:40:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14703; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:40:53 -0500 Message-ID: <7165A198AD18D111869100805F35071B25499F@EXCHANGESERVER> From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 (irrelevant aside) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:30:53 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I loved this! > -----Original Message----- > From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 7:27 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 > (irrelevant aside) > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > > > > > >PDFmaker will not produce "intelligent" PDF through > > PDFwriter. Local Render > > >will produce "intelligent" PDF through PDFwriter - check out > > www.docctrl.com > > > > ... > > > > > And "intelligent" PDF would be what??? > > > > Oh, witty, articulate, able to converse in several languages, > familiar with the classics, and completely unable to fix > a broken automobile engine. > > Aandi 25-Jun-1998 1:38:59-GMT,5355;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07002 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27078; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:24:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:20:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26954; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:20:53 -0500 Message-ID: <202092CF230FD111A00700A02461F585B1BA07@stpmsx03.stp.guidant.com> From: "Edwards, Thomas P (STP)" To: "'PDF-L (Emerge Technologies)'" , "'Acrobat (Blue World)'" Subject: [PDF] Double-loading PDF when launching from Windows Explorer... Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:20:49 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <202092CF230FD111A00700A02461F585B1BA07@stpmsx03.stp.guidant.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD9FAD.96347220" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD9FAD.96347220 Content-Type: text/plain Has anyone had the problem that when you double-click a PDF, it launches Exchange and loads the document, but twice!?!? I double-click the document which fires up Exchange, I see my document. I edit. I then try to Save and get a protection violation error. What's strange is that Exchange 3.01 won't let you Open two copies of a PDF. 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Please move header info to the bottom. Bill Belk Document Production Manager IT Corporation Mera, Jose wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Is it just me or is this new header/banner (below) annoying to others. > Given the volume of e-mail, I usually just scan title and first few > lines. Based on this I read the whole thing or delete. With the new > header I have to page down just to get the first few message lines on > each and every message. Can we make it a footer? > > Thanks for letting me vent. > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > > To Sub/Unsub: > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > 25-Jun-1998 13:07:28-GMT,3119;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19495 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16165; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:55:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:50:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15741; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:50:46 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:50:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bda037$dfa32b60$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Dan > All of our standard office documents (ie faxheaders, maps etc) have been > created in QuarkXPress by our bureau on the Mac over about 5 years. > The idea is to provide our admin dept. with these douments in a form > that they can add specific text. Ideally with standard text fields > similar to which you could fill in on the web? > > Short of creating the whole document again in word by the admin dept. > and inserting all relevant (and varied) eps's, tiff's etc., the recent > revelation of pdf (!) may help us to over come this, I just don't know > how. There appear to be two options here. (i) create Acrobat form fields for inputable data areas. I guess that this will be very limiting except for the most basic of fax headers; (ii) treat the text as separate from the form and merge the two together as part of an output workflow type process at "print" time. Our PDFfusion product could provide that facility. However, unless you are running an existing workflow process I guess that implementing the whole thing will be non-trivial. I have sent you directly a copy of our White Paper entitled: PDFfusion - Standardising Documents uses of PDFfusion to standardise documents enterprise wide I hope that this gives you some ideas. Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > 25-Jun-1998 13:08:34-GMT,3812;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19508 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:08:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16139; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:55:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:50:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15761; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:50:48 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:50:45 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bda037$de5b1b00$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000801bda027$33c3ca80$5900a8c0@dale.qspl.stpp.soft.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > And "intelligent" PDF would be what??? We define "intelligent" PDF as a PDF file which has bookmarks, links etc. These can either be inserted after the file has been created or, ideally, the intelligence will be taken from the source application through to the PDF file. For example, Local Render converts Word heading levels to bookmarks, internal Word X-refs to Acrobat hyperlinks and Word web links to Acrobat links during the conversion process. This eliminates the need to post process the PDF. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Dale Gardner > Sent: 25 June 1998 11:51 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 > > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Cornwell > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Thursday, June 25, 1998 5:00 AM > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 > > > <..> > > > >PDFmaker will not produce "intelligent" PDF through PDFwriter. > Local Render > >will produce "intelligent" PDF through PDFwriter - check out > www.docctrl.com > > > >drc > >--- > >David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > >Computerised Document Control Ltd > >PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > >Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > >Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 > >www.docctrl.com > >Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > > > > > And "intelligent" PDF would be what??? > 25-Jun-1998 13:09:03-GMT,1919;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19513 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:09:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16326; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:57:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:52:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15850; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:52:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Marino, Kristine" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] bookmarks Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:55:38 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hi all, There was a solution given yesterday regarding how to bring bookmarks across all pdf files and it was easier than what I normally do which is create a template and insert the template across all files. I accidentally erased this message and if that person who provided the information could respond again, it would be greatly appreciated.. Regards, Kristine -------------------------------------------- Kristine Marino Technology Resource Centers, Inc. 649 North Lewis Road Limerick, PA 19468 Voice: (610) 495-3043 x215 Fax: (610) 495-3092 kmarino@techcent.com www.techcent.com 25-Jun-1998 13:30:27-GMT,1517;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19972 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:30:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17501; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:15:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:10:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17207; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:10:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:51:00 -0700 X-Priority: 3 From: "Deya, Mike" Subject: [PDF] Import PDF files into WordPerfect 8.0 ??? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is it possible to import a PDF file into WordPerfect 8.0. When I try, it give me the message "cannot be converted to WPG2 graphics image". 25-Jun-1998 13:30:42-GMT,1848;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19984 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:30:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17264; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:11:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:04:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16866; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:04:22 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] New header/banner Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:55:51 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bda039$a97a8180$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8566.898777265@isode.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > A cunning dodge to avoid the banner is to use MIME and make your > message the first body part. Whatever is writing the banner stuffs it > into the "This is a MIME-formatted message" guff.. No! No!! Please don't use attachments for any messages to a mailing list, you should see what it does to the digest. Aandi 25-Jun-1998 13:30:55-GMT,3145;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19990 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:30:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17393; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:13:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:08:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17101; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:08:46 -0500 Message-ID: <35924E6F.1A60B345@lsijax.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:19:44 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Capture - Better on Windows 95 or NT? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199806242330.QAA29964@scotland.it.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" C. Scott Miller wrote: > I experience "PDFWriter - Out of memory" errors whenever I try > to capture > documents on Windows NT (even though we have 256 megs of RAM). > Using the > same installed version on Windows 95 I have no problem (yes, I > remember to > move the dongle between machines). > I assume users here are running Capture on NT with success, but > just to > confirm (before I go through reinstall and system error > checking)... > > Does Capture run any more consistently on Windows 95 than NT - > or vice > versa? Opinions are welcome. Hi Scott, We run capture on both machines and haven't had any more trouble with one or the other. However, we have experienced some problem with getting PDFWriter to work consistently on NT. While checking into this problem, we noticed that in the Capture Release Notes it mentions that PDFWriter has problems on NT. I have it working perfectly on my NT4.0 (SP3) machine with Office 97 (for PDFWriter Macros) and only have 64 MB of RAM (usually close to 1 GB of FREE hard drive space). Another coworker has the same setup but with slightly less hard drive space and the PDFWriter Macros don't work at all and he has trouble with just submitting jobs to his PDFWriter (although not out of memory errors). So, if you're looking to solve the problem, I'd look at PDFWriter on NT and not Capture (Capture works fine on both machines mentioned). Tracie +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 25-Jun-1998 13:33:28-GMT,3913;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20048 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:33:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17946; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:22:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:17:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17656; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:17:36 -0500 From: kgabbert@tribune.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:13:02 -0500 Message-ID: <000AA0DA.CE21251@tribune.com> Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Image Only PDFs with good images and text? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Andrew - Did you create your scans, then ocr with capture? A full version of Capture is available as a stand alone product from Adobe and a lite version is included with Adobe Acrobat. You may also want to check your resolution and quality settings. Set your scanning setups for your final output, i.e. 300 dpi printer, 600 dpi printer, web, commercial printing, etc. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [PDF] Image Only PDFs with good images and text? Author: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com at Internet_TCO Date: 6/25/98 8:15 AM ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Andrew, we've only been able to get quality results when using image editing software on the scans before creating the pdf... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] Image Only PDFs with good images and text? Author: at ccnode Date: 6/25/98 8:14 AM ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is there a way to scan pages with text and photo images for grayscale Image Only PDFs so that the text stays basically black-and-white (i.e. binary, crisp and clear) while the images get the full grayscale treatment? The problem with the grayscale scans I've tried is the text gets blurry -- all the fine details of the letters turn to lighter shades of gray, not crisp black. The images look great. I thought some of the better OCR scanners had image processing boards with settings to automatically detect text or images and enhance them accordingly. I've tried the Image Emphasis/Image Enhancement settings on my Fujitsu 3097, but to no avail. Suggestions? Thanks, Andrew Lindsay Technical Manager - Electronic Publishing EBSCO Publishing Ipswich, MA 01938 (978) 356-6500 x268 25-Jun-1998 13:46:18-GMT,2007;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20298 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:46:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18621; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:33:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:27:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18234; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:27:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3592501A.98D9BDF0@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:26:50 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PS thru virtual printer on Mac References: <199806241852_MC2-5143-46BE@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" olaf druemmer wrote: > > What quite often is not clearly seen is that you should never choose > Landscape orientation in the Page setup when preparing PostScript for > Distiller. Don't know though if this is related to your problem. If this approach doesn't do the trick then maybe Distiller auto-rotation is causing your problem. See Tech Note 5151, Acrobat Distiller Parameters (distparm.pdf), which is included in the Acrobat 3.0 distribution. Page 7 and surrounding pages has information on how to tune the autorotate behavior. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group 25-Jun-1998 13:49:48-GMT,2181;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20403 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:49:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18861; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:37:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:32:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18578; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:32:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3592513D.40F3D7E8@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:31:41 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: "'PDF-L (Emerge Technologies)'" , "'Acrobat (Blue World)'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Double-loading PDF when launching from Windows Explorer... References: <202092CF230FD111A00700A02461F585B1BA07@stpmsx03.stp.guidant.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Edwards, Thomas P (STP) wrote: > > Has anyone had the problem that when you double-click a PDF, it launches > Exchange and loads the document, but twice!?!? > > I double-click the document which fires up Exchange, I see my document. > I edit. I then try to Save and get a protection violation error. > What's strange is that Exchange 3.01 won't let you Open two copies of a > PDF. Oh yeah. I find this happens in Windows 95 when the PDF file itself, or any component of its path, has a non-8.3 name. At least that is the observation thus far. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group 25-Jun-1998 13:51:03-GMT,2181;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20432 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:51:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18865; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:37:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:32:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18556; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:32:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3592513D.40F3D7E8@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:31:41 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: "'PDF-L (Emerge Technologies)'" , "'Acrobat (Blue World)'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Double-loading PDF when launching from Windows Explorer... References: <202092CF230FD111A00700A02461F585B1BA07@stpmsx03.stp.guidant.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Edwards, Thomas P (STP) wrote: > > Has anyone had the problem that when you double-click a PDF, it launches > Exchange and loads the document, but twice!?!? > > I double-click the document which fires up Exchange, I see my document. > I edit. I then try to Save and get a protection violation error. > What's strange is that Exchange 3.01 won't let you Open two copies of a > PDF. Oh yeah. I find this happens in Windows 95 when the PDF file itself, or any component of its path, has a non-8.3 name. At least that is the observation thus far. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group 25-Jun-1998 14:18:51-GMT,1798;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21108 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:18:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20195; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:02:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:56:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19805; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:56:23 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for June-24-98 [V2 #252] Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:56:44 -0400 x-sender: rspeidel@mailbox.cjp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Rusty Speidel To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1313353920-8280549@mailbox.cjp.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I will be out of the office from June 22 through June 26. I will address your message when I return. If this is a matter that requires immediate attention, please contact Damon Lincourt, our systems manager, at dlincourt@cjp.com. Thanks, Rusty Speidel ================================== Russell Speidel Director, Medical Multimedia Ph: 804.979.4913 Fax: 804.979.4025 rspeidel@cjp.com ================================== 25-Jun-1998 14:27:39-GMT,1969;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21435 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:27:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20752; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:13:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:06:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20367; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:06:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:07:28 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1313360450-65781851@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Mera, Jose (Jose_Mera@ATK.COM) wrote on 6/25/98 4:31 AM: >Is it just me or is this new header/banner (below) annoying to others. >Given the volume of e-mail, I usually just scan title and first few >lines. Based on this I read the whole thing or delete. With the new >header I have to page down just to get the first few message lines on >each and every message. Can we make it a footer? I second the motion to make it a footer. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax 25-Jun-1998 14:45:48-GMT,2646;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21906 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:45:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21704; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:30:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:25:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21391; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:25:34 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:25:23 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: FW: [PDF] New header/banner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691B9C@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I agree > -----Original Message----- > From: Mera, Jose [SMTP:Jose_Mera@ATK.COM] > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 7:32 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] New header/banner > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Is it just me or is this new header/banner (below) annoying to others. > Given the volume of e-mail, I usually just scan title and first few > lines. Based on this I read the whole thing or delete. With the new > header I have to page down just to get the first few message lines on > each and every message. Can we make it a footer? > > Thanks for letting me vent. > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > > To Sub/Unsub: > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > 25-Jun-1998 15:01:39-GMT,2494;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22286 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:01:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22144; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:40:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:35:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21932; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:35:45 -0500 Message-ID: <7165A198AD18D111869100805F35071B2549A5@EXCHANGESERVER> From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for June-24-98 [V2 #252] Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:25:33 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" How many times am I going to get this e-mail message? I have deleted it at least 10 times now. > -----Original Message----- > From: Rusty Speidel [SMTP:speidel@cjp.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 9:57 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for June-24-98 [V2 #252] > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > I will be out of the office from June 22 through June 26. I will > address > your message when I return. If this is a matter that requires > immediate > attention, please contact Damon Lincourt, our systems manager, at > dlincourt@cjp.com. > > Thanks, > > Rusty Speidel > > ================================== > Russell Speidel > Director, Medical Multimedia > Ph: 804.979.4913 > Fax: 804.979.4025 > rspeidel@cjp.com > ================================== > 25-Jun-1998 15:01:45-GMT,2745;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22292 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:01:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22228; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:42:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:37:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22004; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:37:42 -0500 Message-ID: <7165A198AD18D111869100805F35071B2549A6@EXCHANGESERVER> From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] New header/banner Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:27:13 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I strongly agree. This e-mail is getting ugly and extremely hard to read. Lately I have been just deleting because I don't have the time to read through the "advertisements" to get to the messages. Can't we find another way to advertise? > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Walker [SMTP:dennisw@inpractice.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 11:07 AM > To: PDF Mail List > Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Mera, Jose (Jose_Mera@ATK.COM) wrote on 6/25/98 4:31 AM: > > >Is it just me or is this new header/banner (below) annoying to > others. > >Given the volume of e-mail, I usually just scan title and first few > >lines. Based on this I read the whole thing or delete. With the new > >header I have to page down just to get the first few message lines on > >each and every message. Can we make it a footer? > > I second the motion to make it a footer. > > Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net > EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 > InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax 25-Jun-1998 15:34:17-GMT,1942;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23129 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:34:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24088; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:17:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:11:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23674; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:11:46 -0500 X-Envelope-Sender-Is: wolfgang.glunz@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Message-Id: <199806251506.RAA03088@weisshorn.mchp.siemens.de> Subject: Re: [PDF] Import PDF files into WordPerfect 8.0 ??? In-Reply-To: from "Deya, Mike" at "Jun 25, 98 08:51:00 am" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:06:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Glunz X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL35 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Is it possible to import a PDF file into WordPerfect 8.0. When I try, > it give me the message "cannot be converted to WPG2 graphics image". > Does WordPerfect support the ALDUS graphic import filter interface, as does MS-Office ? If yes, you could try my importps.dll. Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Glunz email: Wolfgang.Glunz@mchp.siemens.de 25-Jun-1998 15:20:35-GMT,1516;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22833 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:20:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23005; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:59:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:54:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22732; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:54:03 -0500 Message-ID: <359264CA.FF6A336B@rugged.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:55:06 +0300 From: Yossi David Organization: Aitech Systems Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner References: <000301bda031$59a0e440$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Can we make it a footer? > > > I'd be much happier with the banner at the end. Me too. Yossi 25-Jun-1998 16:07:41-GMT,3169;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23910 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:07:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25774; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:38:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:33:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25209; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:33:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: miller@performancegraphics.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture - Better on Windows 95 or NT? Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:33:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Scott, This works for similar errors using Exchange when saving as post script. Perhaps it will work for you: If you are the system administrator (if you are not, check with them) log on as local administrator. Create an account for the local user. Assign the administration membership to that account. Log back on to the network domain as the local user, the local user will not receive the error. Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org -----Original Message----- From: C. Scott Miller [mailto:miller@performancegraphics.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 4:29 PM To: PDF Lists Subject: [PDF] Capture - Better on Windows 95 or NT? ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Quick Question - I experience "PDFWriter - Out of memory" errors whenever I try to capture documents on Windows NT (even though we have 256 megs of RAM). Using the same installed version on Windows 95 I have no problem (yes, I remember to move the dongle between machines). I assume users here are running Capture on NT with success, but just to confirm (before I go through reinstall and system error checking)... Does Capture run any more consistently on Windows 95 than NT - or vice versa? Opinions are welcome. TIA, Scott PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com 25-Jun-1998 16:07:48-GMT,4027;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23915 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:07:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24894; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:29:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:24:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24504; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:24:26 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:58:51 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel Mason Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? In-Reply-To: <000701bda037$dfa32b60$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" David Thanks for your message. If I'm understanding your options properly, option (i) implies using Exchange to imput this specific text. The main aim is trying to avoid our admin people having to use Acrobat for the time being. I can't believe that the problem has not been come accross by other companies. ??? Although I do not fully understand, I like the sound of the second option. We are at this moment implementing a workflow for the whole company incooporating pdf as a workflow tool, but that's another story! Thankyou for the information. I'll let you know. In message <000701bda037$dfa32b60$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com>, David Cornwell writes > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >Dan > >> All of our standard office documents (ie faxheaders, maps etc) have been >> created in QuarkXPress by our bureau on the Mac over about 5 years. >> The idea is to provide our admin dept. with these douments in a form >> that they can add specific text. Ideally with standard text fields >> similar to which you could fill in on the web? >> >> Short of creating the whole document again in word by the admin dept. >> and inserting all relevant (and varied) eps's, tiff's etc., the recent >> revelation of pdf (!) may help us to over come this, I just don't know >> how. > >There appear to be two options here. > >(i) create Acrobat form fields for inputable data areas. I guess that this >will be very limiting except for the most basic of fax headers; > >(ii) treat the text as separate from the form and merge the two together as >part of an output workflow type process at "print" time. Our PDFfusion >product could provide that facility. However, unless you are running an >existing workflow process I guess that implementing the whole thing will be >non-trivial. > >I have sent you directly a copy of our White Paper entitled: >PDFfusion - Standardising Documents >uses of PDFfusion to standardise documents enterprise wide > >I hope that this gives you some ideas. > >Regards > >drc > >--- >David Cornwell, Director - Business Development >Computerised Document Control Ltd >PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom >Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 >Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 >www.docctrl.com >Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > >> > -- Daniel Mason 25-Jun-1998 16:12:09-GMT,2441;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24019 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:12:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26232; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:42:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:37:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25673; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:37:48 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:32:25 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel Mason Subject: Re: [PDF] Import PDF files into WordPerfect 8.0 ??? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Mike I'm tring to do the same but with Word!!!! I keep being told that pdf wasn't designed to do this, but the only way I've kind of managed to do it is to create an eps from Acrobat Echange (export) Although beware, this does not come standard supplied on the PC version, you have to download a plugin from the Adobe website at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4f26.htm Let me know how you got on, I think we're in the same boat! In message , Deya, Mike writes > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Is it possible to import a PDF file into WordPerfect 8.0. When I try, > it give me the message "cannot be converted to WPG2 graphics image". > -- Daniel Mason 25-Jun-1998 16:13:25-GMT,4035;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24065 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:13:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24895; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:29:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:24:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24544; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:24:31 -0500 Message-ID: <6PeBzKAtmmk1IwzQ@pierhse.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:15:57 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel Mason Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? In-Reply-To: <000201bda031$586b2360$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Aandi Kind of..yes, but as much as I'd like to I cannot forget word. My task has been set to figure out a way of translating a Quark Doc into word. Because the whole admin dept. is based around word, we are tring to avoid the need and learning curve (minimal as I know it is) to use Acrobat on all workstations. As well as the cost of multiple licence for Exhange. I can't believe we are the only ones trying to do this! Maybe we're looking to do too much, for too little! but as we are not yet ready to totally implement Acrobat across the board, if this is not possible, for the time being we'll have to carry on printing docs through Quark on the Mac and re-feed it into the printer on the PC!!! In message <000201bda031$586b2360$0101c6c0@gateway>, Aandi Inston writes > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > >> David, >> >> Sorry very unclear I suppose! >> >> All of our standard office documents (ie faxheaders, maps >> etc) have been >> created in QuarkXPress by our bureau on the Mac over about 5 years. >> The idea is to provide our admin dept. with these douments in a form >> that they can add specific text. Ideally with standard text fields >> similar to which you could fill in on the web? >> >> Short of creating the whole document again in word by the admin dept. >> and inserting all relevant (and varied) eps's, tiff's etc., the recent >> revelation of pdf (!) may help us to over come this, I just don't know >> how. >> >> If Word imported a pdf as it exports as a pdf, great, but it doesn't!! >> ...unless you know otherwise??? >> > >Forget Word. PDF doesn't really "go" anywhere. Once you have a PDF >you stay with the Acrobat family of products. > >Also, Word is a poor tool for this sort of complex design, unless your >forms are very simple in layout. That's why they would have been made >in XPress in the first place. > >With Acrobat Exchange you can make PDF files fillable forms, where >information can be typed. Then, anyone with Reader can > >1. Fill the forms >2. Print them >3. Submit them to a web server > >The following tasks can be performed only with the full Exchange product, >licensed per machine: > >1. Add text where no form field is defined (hard work, not worth it). >2. Save filled forms. >3. Define and modify the form layout. > >Does that make things clearer? > >Aandi -- Daniel Mason 25-Jun-1998 16:13:37-GMT,2273;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24072 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:13:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26010; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:40:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:35:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25484; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:35:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199806251534.LAA19069@wacky.total.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Exchange as a service? Date: Thu, 25 Jun 98 11:35:45 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Edward Chiu To: "mjahn" , "PDF" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA25477 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" No, its not working. I've put those 2 ps files in the watch folder, it didn't work. And I also try to put them inside the In folderŠno chance. :( >>Please be careful if the PS file distilled thru hot folders, the spot >>color cannot be distilled out. That mean the epilogue & prologue is not >>working with hot folders, it only work when you distill the file manully. > >actually, if you place copies of the epiloge & prologue files in the >watched folders it will work. > > >Michael Jahn >PDF Evangelist >Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation >200 Ballardvale Street >MS 200-4-5H >Wilmington, MASS >01887-1069 >P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 >F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) >E: mikejahn@jahn.com >E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com >I: www.jahn.org > > < ed > 25-Jun-1998 16:31:17-GMT,1640;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24599 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29065; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:08:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:02:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28342; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:02:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199806251602.MAA12918@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> From: "Linda Bajumpaa" To: Subject: [PDF] Blank PDFs Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:00:48 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Can anyone tell me what the problem is..... Our website contains a very large amount of PDF's. Our field reps are accessing this site with many different PCs. Some are encountering a blank screen when opening a PDF. Is this common? 25-Jun-1998 16:35:39-GMT,3079;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24708 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:35:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29895; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:18:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:12:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29380; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:12:35 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:10:27 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bda053$d922ace0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6PeBzKAtmmk1IwzQ@pierhse.demon.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Kind of..yes, but as much as I'd like to I cannot forget word. My task > has been set to figure out a way of translating a Quark Doc > into word. Ok, it that's the task, you may find a solution, but I don't think it will involve PDF. PDF is best not considered as a stage along the way but a final format. The ease with which you can convert X to PDF and Y to PDF leads to the understandable but mistaken assumption that converting PDF to X or PDF to Y is just as easy, so X to Y is easy via X to PDF and PDF to Y. No. > > Because the whole admin dept. is based around word, we are tring to > avoid the need and learning curve (minimal as I know it is) to use > Acrobat on all workstations. As well as the cost of multiple > licence for > Exhange. I can't believe we are the only ones trying to do this! Well, yes, and Adobe like nothing better than selling Exchange to every desktop in the company. Why should they provide a solution that means you buy just one or two copies to implement a sophisticated solution company wide...that would be Adobe's position, I suspect. > > Maybe we're looking to do too much, for too little! but as we are not > yet ready to totally implement Acrobat across the board, if > this is not > possible, for the time being we'll have to carry on printing docs > through Quark on the Mac and re-feed it into the printer on the PC!!! Well you could convert to PDF, then print the PDF from the PC and feed that through the printer. Not much nicer, but it moves some of the responsibilities. Aandi 25-Jun-1998 16:57:45-GMT,1451;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25181 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:57:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30304; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:22:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:17:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29857; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:17:34 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:16:30 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel Mason Subject: [PDF] Acrobat plugin needed!! MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ***Plugin developers worldwide ...Attention please.*** Does anyone know of an Acrobat Plugin which can export a pdf into other formats! Daniel Mason 25-Jun-1998 17:11:02-GMT,2369;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25527 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:11:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31427; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:36:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:31:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30913; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:31:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Blank PDFs Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:32:36 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Try the ocx update if they are using IE4, otherwise this is a problem that I would like to see Adobe work on. It does not happen with Netscape. Any comments from Adobe? Will there be an improvement to the ActiveX stuff soon? > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Bajumpaa [SMTP:lbajumpaa@massmutual.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 9:01 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Blank PDFs > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Can anyone tell me what the problem is..... > > Our website contains a very large amount of PDF's. Our field reps are > accessing this site with many different PCs. Some are encountering a > blank > screen when opening a PDF. Is this common? 25-Jun-1998 17:17:33-GMT,1798;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25659 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:17:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32562; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:49:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:44:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32152; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:44:45 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for June-25-98 [V2 #253] Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:45:09 -0400 x-sender: rspeidel@mailbox.cjp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Rusty Speidel To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1313343817-8888267@mailbox.cjp.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I will be out of the office from June 22 through June 26. I will address your message when I return. If this is a matter that requires immediate attention, please contact Damon Lincourt, our systems manager, at dlincourt@cjp.com. Thanks, Rusty Speidel ================================== Russell Speidel Director, Medical Multimedia Ph: 804.979.4913 Fax: 804.979.4025 rspeidel@cjp.com ================================== 25-Jun-1998 17:17:45-GMT,3699;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25668 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:17:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00524; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:58:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:53:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00092; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:53:32 -0500 Message-ID: <359276E0.5CE7C6D@denovolit.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:12:16 -0700 From: "Michael R. Nevarez, Esq." Organization: De Novo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner References: <1313360450-65781851@mail.inpractice.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------12FC75F61BA40EBA900F80DA" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------12FC75F61BA40EBA900F80DA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why even have the banner on EVERY message. It's a waste of space and dowload time. Why not just send the banner out just ONCE (or even once a day/week) to everyone? Sending it out on every message does no good, because after a while we'll all ignore it and won't notice if and when the message changes. Dennis Walker wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Mera, Jose (Jose_Mera@ATK.COM) wrote on 6/25/98 4:31 AM: > > >Is it just me or is this new header/banner (below) annoying to others. > >Given the volume of e-mail, I usually just scan title and first few > >lines. Based on this I read the whole thing or delete. With the new > >header I have to page down just to get the first few message lines on > >each and every message. Can we make it a footer? > > I second the motion to make it a footer. > > Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net > EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 > InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax --------------12FC75F61BA40EBA900F80DA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Nevarez, Michael R. Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Michael R. Nevarez n: Nevarez;Michael R. org: De Novo adr: P.O. Box 281678;;;San Francisco;CA;94128-1678;U.S.A. email;internet: michaeln@denovolit.com title: Vice President of Operations, Secretary and General Counsel tel;work: (650) 692-9214 tel;fax: (650) 692-9216 tel;home: N/A note: >Expert Technical Support and Imaging Services< x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------12FC75F61BA40EBA900F80DA-- 25-Jun-1998 17:18:43-GMT,2597;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25688 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:18:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00623; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:59:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:55:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00253; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:55:00 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA028.89FAE860@howards.oecmed.com> From: Michael Johnson To: "'PAGEMAKR@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU'" , "'TECHWR-L@LISTSERV.OKSTATE.EDU'" , "'techcomm@user.itconsult.co.uk'" , "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Making One PDF from a PageMaker Book of Pubs Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:00:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA00249 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Several days back I posted a request for help as I attempted to generate one big PDF from a PageMaker 6.5 book of publications. (I'm using a Windoze 95 PC.) You may recall that the Postscript file got made but Distiller choked and gave me an error message. The message stated that there was a Postscript error called "invalidrestore". Since several of you mentioned you'd had the same problem, I thought I'd tell you that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and it's not a train coming the other way. I found a solution during a search of the Adobe CustomerFirst Support database. I downloaded a file called P65ps.ps and installed it in PM65\rsrc\ folder. Now I can generate the big PDF with no problem at all. The URL is http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/490a.htm Thanks again for all your helpful input. Mike Johnson Michaelj@oecmed.com Speaking for myself and not OEC Medical 25-Jun-1998 17:31:02-GMT,1853;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25995 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:31:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01659; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:13:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:09:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01320; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:08:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3592864F.7621@archangel.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:18:09 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for June-25-98 [V2 #253] References: <1313343817-8888267@mailbox.cjp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" This post brought to you by the CTKAPWGOVARSTLWIAMR (Committee To Kill All People Who Go On Vacation And Remain Subscribed To Listserves While Invoking Automated Mail Replies) This month's mission... KILL > Rusty Speidel -- Shane Steinman Logistics & Diagnostics, ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. W., Ste. 910, Toronto, Ont., CAN M3H 2R7 Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 email: shane@archangel.net 25-Jun-1998 17:34:46-GMT,2262;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26084 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:34:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02485; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:23:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:17:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02013; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:17:49 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825662E.005FE72C.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:28:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Set up Word Templates for the forms you want, use Distiller Assistant to print to PDF. Daniel Mason on 06/25/98 02:09:29 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am also fairly new to pdf, but we are looking to convert all our internal standard office forms ie. fax headers etc to pdf so that they can be directly imported into word on the PC. I need to be able to insert specific text into a master document in word. Word does not import pdf's directly. Any ideas??? Dan Mason 25-Jun-1998 17:41:06-GMT,1627;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26214 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:41:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02821; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:27:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:22:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02393; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:22:16 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01bda05d$b556a8c0$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:21:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Sending it out on every message does no good, >because after a while we'll all ignore it and won't notice if and when the >message changes. > What Banner? :) 25-Jun-1998 18:14:48-GMT,1711;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26939 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:14:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04428; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:48:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:43:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03970; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:43:31 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat plugin needed!! Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:34:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bda060$a7ed6720$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Does anyone know of an Acrobat Plugin which can export a pdf > into other > formats! How about the ExportPS plug-in. This will export a PDF file as EPS. Aandi 25-Jun-1998 18:14:49-GMT,2263;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26943 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:14:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04443; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:49:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:44:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04038; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:44:11 -0500 From: gspiese@mpg.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: MPG To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525662E.00608DE7.00@mpgmail.mpg.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:45:49 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Printing Embedded TT Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am having a problem printing embedded TrueType subsetted fonts to our imagesetters (SyTex, Agfa, PantherPro). I receive Quark documents with advertisements that are placed EPS files. The original files are PDF's, however Quark will not allow direct placement of PDF's. The PDF ad is "Exported" in Exchange then placed in Quark. When I examine the file all fonts are subsetted, all but one are Type 1 embedded. The problem font (Helvetica) is TrueType and also embedded. I can print the PDF file fine to all our output devices, however after an EPS is made the RIP's can no longer find the font and it prints as Courier. Why can I print the file OK when in Exchange, but not out of Quark? How and what do I fix so these jobs print? I have contacted Adobe, SciTex, and Agfa several times, but no one has a clue. In addition I've conducted many tests to no avail. Can anyone help? Thanks! George Spiese Corporate Macintosh Analyst The Mack Printing Group gspiese@mpg.com 25-Jun-1998 18:29:43-GMT,2145;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27422 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:29:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05621; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:11:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:06:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05339; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:06:42 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199806251806.AA21895@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 98 14:02:57 -0500 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Acrobat plugin needed!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" how about ghostscript? Lots of export formats available ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat plugin needed!! Author: at ccnode Date: 6/25/98 2:02 PM ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Does anyone know of an Acrobat Plugin which can export a pdf > into other > formats! How about the ExportPS plug-in. This will export a PDF file as EPS. Aandi 25-Jun-1998 18:29:55-GMT,3005;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27428 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:29:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05894; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:16:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:11:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05598; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:11:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199806251811.LAA21176@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:13:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Browser Flaws From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >> Some of our users have trouble displaying large forms with >> Reader as a plug-in to Netscape Communicator/Navigator 4.x. The >> first page displays without fields and the fields may be >> added a minute or 2 later, but often it takes longer and the user >> gives up. Navigator 3.x and IE display them fine, even on the same >> PC. These forms are 3 to 5 pages, with lots of checkboxes and other >> fields. They range from 500 to 900 KB. >> >> Any ideas? No ideas about that... but I think you raise an two important questions. As a consultant, have to make recommendations to institutional accounts concerning PDF and the web (internet/intranet). Obviously, there are many issues, but one that this group could help me with is... QUESTION 1 - Which browser/PDFViewer combination works best with Windows (95)? My own experience has been that Navigator 3.x and 4.x work well but that Communicator (4.0) has some flaws, namely: 1 - If I draft HTML links to open a new browser page to place a PDF file for viewing, I usually have to "Reload" after the blank window comes up. 2 - If the PDF has hidden fields, they don't work. Now... since these two features don't work well on one version of one browser, broadly distributed PDF or HTML files should not include these features. QUESTION 2 - Are there other individual browser flaws that people have run into using PDFViewer? TIA, Scott PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com 25-Jun-1998 20:07:44-GMT,7325;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00049 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:07:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10986; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:48:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:38:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10477; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:38:53 -0500 Message-ID: <001701bda070$ed62d320$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: [PDF] Creating Cross Platform CD's (was Running from the CD) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:39:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" After my post on creating cross-platform CD-ROMs I received a lot of mail asking for more detail on how it is done. Here are the steps that we currently do (no, its not easy, but I guess that's why we can make a specialty of creating cross-platform media). 1. Create all source PDF files remembering to use 8.3 filenames with no dashes (-) or other non-ISO characters in them. In general it is also best to use only one case (upper or lower... I prefer lower) because Acrobat in Unix will try to match case, but most Unix CD-ROM drivers change the case of the files to either all upper or all lower case. This means that if you have a file called BillyBob.PDF, and you have a PDF link from main.pdf to BillyBob.PDF, inside Acrobat, this link will be case sensitive as BillyBob.PDF. On the PC and Mac side, the OS manages to ignore the case and call BILLYBOB.PDF or whatever, but in Unix the OS wants to find BillyBob.PDF. The bummer becomes that most Unix CD-ROM drivers are written to assume that ISO standard filenames which means 8.3 and all uppercase. To add to the problem, some Unix CD-ROM drivers will change the case from upper to lower so that when you look at the filenames on the CD-ROM they will look more "Unix" or lowercase (hey, I didn't write the drivers so don't shoot the messager). The result is that in Unix, Acrobat cross-document links between files on CD-ROM has a good chance of not working, particularly if you use changing case filenames. If you use all upper or all lower you at least have a chance it making it work. There is also something called the "RockRidge" extension which allow Unix to do longer than 8.3 and case sensitive from CD-ROM but creating one of these has its own set of pains in the ass. Also some newer Unix will do long file names from CD as well. 2. Place all the source PDF files in a Mac virtual volume (you can create the virtual volume using Adaptec's Toast which is what we also use to burn the CD master). A side benefit of making a virtual volume is that you wind up with a easy configuration management snapshot of what you put on the CD-ROM, whereas grabbing the files off of the hard disk tends to lead to situations where later attempts to modify the CD image finds that files have been modified or deleted from the hard disk. The toast virtual volume becomes a file which you can place on a Jaz or other rewritable media and then easily open later to modify the CD image for a new burn. 3. Create the Acrobat Catalog index of the files on the Mac virtual volume. A side note here is that we have found that Catalog runs faster on the PC, so we often create a volume on the PC side (using a Jaz or other rewriteable disk) and copy the PDFs in the Mac virtual volume to the PC volume. If you use a PC and Mac LAN (such as PCMacLAN) you can index the virtual volume across the LAN with some speed loss. 3. Place all the Acrobat install files in the Mac virtual volume in a sub-folder called Acrobat (or whatever you like). You can copy all the installers from the Adobe website which has reader installers for Windows 32-bit, Windows 16-bit, Mac, and various Unix flavors. Note that you will probably want to use Acrobat Reader with Search and not just the Acrobat Reader since this will give your users search capabilities. 4. You may want to optimize the Mac virtual volume using Norton's Speed Disk or similar. Older versions of Toast required this before burning the CD. 4. Under Windows, use an installer creator package such as InstallShield or even a shareware install creator (we have used Install/Setup http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kpherzog/) to create groups/folders and then launch the Acrobat installer. Remember to make the pathing to the Acrobat installer match what will be on the CD (for example \acrobat\win32\setup.exe). Place the resulting installer file into the Mac virtual volume along with your other files (we usually put it at root). Note that your installation routine should either detect Windows95+ or Windows3.1 or ask the user which they are running and then run the appropriate Acrobat reader installer. You can also make your installation routine optionally run the Acrobat installer or check if Acrobat is installed (this is tricky since you also need to check the version currently installed). Note that under Windows you can also play with the Acrobat abcpy.ini file which will customize the Acrobat Preferences to your specifications. 5. Arrange the Mac virtual volume so that it is open and you only see the files that the user needs. We normally set this folder up the show only the main PDF and an alias (Mac shortcut) to the Mac version of the Acrobat installer. 6. In the installation instructions for the Mac tell the user to run the double click on the Acrobat installer icon only if they don't have Acrobat Reader with Search version xxx or higher already installed on the machine. Note that, on the Mac you do not have to worry about creating folders/groups or adding to the Start menu, so you do not need to write special installation routines here. 7. In the installation instructions, direct Unix users to the Unix install scripts and tell em good luck.... I think Unix users are used to pain so this does not seem to phase them. 8. In the installation instructions, tell Windows users to run the installation routine you created above. 9. If you want an autorun CD, create an autorun.inf file and place it in the root of the Mac virtual volume. Make sure that you create this file on the PC side, since the Mac uses a different end-of-line than the PC. 10. Start up Toast and set it to create an ISO/HFS hybrid. Tell toast where the data files are (the Mac virtual volume). Let it rip. 11. Test like crazy on all platforms. Good luck Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. 813-531-7279 25-Jun-1998 20:12:05-GMT,1676;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00188 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:12:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11720; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:01:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:56:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11395; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:56:07 -0500 Message-ID: <000501bda073$57628700$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating Cross Platform CD's (was Running from the CD) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:56:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Sorry about the numbering on the "Creating Cross Platform CD's" post. I thought I had autonumbering on. Life's a bitch. Chris Lane Compter Multimedia Productions Corp. 25-Jun-1998 20:32:40-GMT,2678;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00721 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:32:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12808; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:21:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:15:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12558; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:15:32 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980625201553.00d8a4e8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:15:53 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating Cross Platform CD's (was Running from the CD) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" If by "ISO" you mean "ISO 9960", that spec requires that all letters be UPPERCASE; so, despite your personal preference for lowercase, you should keep that in mind. Failure to strictly follow the ISO 9660 standard can cause your CD-ROM to be un-mountable in certain situations (Netware seems to be notorious for this). Don't forget that Acrobat cross-file links embedded in your PDFs will also be case-sensitive in those environments which care about it, so the file names need to be all uppercase on the hard drive where they are originally created and linked, not just on the CD-ROM after lower-to-upper translation is done by your CD-ROM mastering software. This requirement to create all uppercase filenames can be particularly tricky to do in certain versions of Windows, so be careful! Tom Thiersch re: >1. Create all source PDF files remembering to use 8.3 filenames with no >dashes (-) or other non-ISO characters in them. In general it is also best >to use only one case (upper or lower... I prefer lower) because Acrobat in >Unix will try to match case, but most Unix CD-ROM drivers change the case of >the files to either all upper or all lower case. This means that if you have >Good luck > >Chris Lane >Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. >813-531-7279 > > > 25-Jun-1998 21:08:36-GMT,3351;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01743 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:08:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14264; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:48:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:43:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13913; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:43:10 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:40:19 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: "'Acrobat (Blue World)'" From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Double-loading PDF when launching from Windows Explorer... In-Reply-To: <3592513D.40F3D7E8@beacon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" In message <3592513D.40F3D7E8@beacon.com>, Cory Snavely wrote: >Edwards, Thomas P (STP) wrote: >> Has anyone had the problem that when you double-click a PDF, it launches >> Exchange and loads the document, but twice!?!? We have experienced the double-open effect when files are launched by double-clicking on them from File Manager/Windows Explorer. You are only likely to notice the problem if you have some non-standard custom plug- ins which replace Acrobat's open document call. Acrobat's own open document call obviously copes with this by realising that the document is already open when asked to open it again. The double-open effect is caused by a fault with the Acrobat installer which sets the open command to launch Acrobat AND sets the DDE file open command too. Windows seems to use both hence the double open. To get around this, modify the plug-in which is not working correctly (it needs to enumerate open documents to see if the document is already open), else edit the Windows registry: run regedit.exe Go to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT/AcroExch.Document/shell/open/command Select the command string, then click on Edit>Modify A dialogue will show the command to be something like: c:\acrobat3\Exchange\AcroEx32.exe "%1" Remove the "%1", hit OK, then click on Registry>Exit. Should fix the problem. Of course if you have lots of machines it might be easier to get the plug-in fixed :-( Regards David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics 25-Jun-1998 21:16:31-GMT,4114;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01923 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15347; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:05:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:00:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15011; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:00:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199806252059.NAA17077@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:59:51 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Double-loading PDF when launching from Windows Explorer... Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "'Acrobat (Blue World)'" In-Reply-To: References: <3592513D.40F3D7E8@beacon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Actually, the problem with double-open occurred in Acrobat 3.0 and was fixed in 3.01. I suspect that the problem remained if one didn't uninstall 3.0 before installing 3.01! - Dov At 6/25/98 01:40 PM , David R Evans wrote: > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >In message <3592513D.40F3D7E8@beacon.com>, Cory Snavely > wrote: >>Edwards, Thomas P (STP) wrote: >>> Has anyone had the problem that when you double-click a PDF, it launches >>> Exchange and loads the document, but twice!?!? >We have experienced the double-open effect when files are launched by >double-clicking on them from File Manager/Windows Explorer. You are only >likely to notice the problem if you have some non-standard custom plug- >ins which replace Acrobat's open document call. Acrobat's own open >document call obviously copes with this by realising that the document >is already open when asked to open it again. > >The double-open effect is caused by a fault with the Acrobat installer >which sets the open command to launch Acrobat AND sets the DDE file open >command too. Windows seems to use both hence the double open. To get >around this, modify the plug-in which is not working correctly (it needs >to enumerate open documents to see if the document is already open), >else edit the Windows registry: > >run regedit.exe >Go to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT/AcroExch.Document/shell/open/command >Select the command string, then click on Edit>Modify >A dialogue will show the command to be something like: > > c:\acrobat3\Exchange\AcroEx32.exe "%1" > >Remove the "%1", hit OK, then click on Registry>Exit. Should fix the >problem. Of course if you have lots of machines it might be easier to >get the plug-in fixed :-( > >Regards > >David >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 >Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 >P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk >NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ >NG2 1LJ, UK > Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat > plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics > 25-Jun-1998 21:16:31-GMT,4022;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01922 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15283; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:04:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:58:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14886; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:58:47 -0500 Message-ID: <000901bda07c$115f77a0$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating Cross Platform CD's (was Running from the CD) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:58:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Tom, Thank you for pointing this out. You are correct in that the ISO 9660 spec defines filenames as uppercase (which I stated later in the post when I said "...The bummer becomes that most Unix CD-ROM drivers are written to assume that ISO standard filenames which means 8.3 and all uppercase..." ). I meant to say I prefer uppercase filenames but some Unix CD-ROM loaders will return lowercase causing your links not to work. The point were are both trying to make is that internally to Acrobat the links retain case and this causes problems in some OS's. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Thiersch To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thursday, June 25, 1998 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating Cross Platform CD's (was Running from the CD) > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >If by "ISO" you mean "ISO 9960", that spec requires that all letters be >UPPERCASE; so, despite your personal preference for lowercase, you should >keep that in mind. Failure to strictly follow the ISO 9660 standard can >cause your CD-ROM to be un-mountable in certain situations (Netware seems to >be notorious for this). > >Don't forget that Acrobat cross-file links embedded in your PDFs will also >be case-sensitive in those environments which care about it, so the file >names need to be all uppercase on the hard drive where they are originally >created and linked, not just on the CD-ROM after lower-to-upper translation >is done by your CD-ROM mastering software. > >This requirement to create all uppercase filenames can be particularly >tricky to do in certain versions of Windows, so be careful! > >Tom Thiersch > > > >re: >1. Create all source PDF files remembering to use 8.3 filenames with no >>dashes (-) or other non-ISO characters in them. In general it is also best >>to use only one case (upper or lower... I prefer lower) because Acrobat in >>Unix will try to match case, but most Unix CD-ROM drivers change the case of >>the files to either all upper or all lower case. This means that if you have > >>Good luck >> >>Chris Lane >>Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. >>813-531-7279 >> >> >> > > 25-Jun-1998 22:18:26-GMT,4755;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03318 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:18:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17731; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:57:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:54:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17603; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:54:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199806252059.NAA17077@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:59:51 -0700 Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Double-loading PDF when launching from Windows Explorer... Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "'Acrobat (Blue World)'" In-Reply-To: References: <3592513D.40F3D7E8@beacon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Software: LetterRip Pro 3.0.1 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe: List-Administrator: List-Archives: List-Guidelines: X-Loop: karlin@rsch.com To: nkarlin@panix.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Actually, the problem with double-open occurred in Acrobat 3.0 and was fixed in 3.01. I suspect that the problem remained if one didn't uninstall 3.0 before installing 3.01! - Dov At 6/25/98 01:40 PM , David R Evans wrote: > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >In message <3592513D.40F3D7E8@beacon.com>, Cory Snavely > wrote: >>Edwards, Thomas P (STP) wrote: >>> Has anyone had the problem that when you double-click a PDF, it launches >>> Exchange and loads the document, but twice!?!? >We have experienced the double-open effect when files are launched by >double-clicking on them from File Manager/Windows Explorer. You are only >likely to notice the problem if you have some non-standard custom plug- >ins which replace Acrobat's open document call. Acrobat's own open >document call obviously copes with this by realising that the document >is already open when asked to open it again. > >The double-open effect is caused by a fault with the Acrobat installer >which sets the open command to launch Acrobat AND sets the DDE file open >command too. Windows seems to use both hence the double open. To get >around this, modify the plug-in which is not working correctly (it needs >to enumerate open documents to see if the document is already open), >else edit the Windows registry: > >run regedit.exe >Go to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT/AcroExch.Document/shell/open/command >Select the command string, then click on Edit>Modify >A dialogue will show the command to be something like: > > c:\acrobat3\Exchange\AcroEx32.exe "%1" > >Remove the "%1", hit OK, then click on Registry>Exit. Should fix the >problem. Of course if you have lots of machines it might be easier to >get the plug-in fixed :-( > >Regards > >David >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 >Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 >P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk >NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ >NG2 1LJ, UK > Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat > plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: List Archives : 26-Jun-1998 4:33:38-GMT,1826;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10836 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA31791; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:11:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:08:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA31688; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:08:53 -0500 Message-ID: <000701bda0b7$ecbbec80$5900a8c0@dale.qspl.stpp.soft.net> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:40:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Ron asked: > > >Is PDFMaker a part of Word 97? Word97 Only? Is it downloadable from >anywhere? > >Anyone had experience with this? > > >thanks!! > > >rod peno >designer | nethead nemas >http://www.nng.net > As I recall, it works with Word97 only. I downloaded my copy from the Adobe web site. Not much experience yet... Dale 26-Jun-1998 4:33:39-GMT,2294;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10840 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:33:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA31792; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:11:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:08:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA31660; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:08:45 -0500 Message-ID: <000901bda0b7$f2a7bb60$5900a8c0@dale.qspl.stpp.soft.net> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFMaker. Special set of macros for Word 97 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:07:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" David Cornwell said: > >We define "intelligent" PDF as a PDF file which has bookmarks, links etc. >These can either be inserted after the file has been created or, ideally, >the intelligence will be taken from the source application through to the >PDF file. For example, Local Render converts Word heading levels to >bookmarks, internal Word X-refs to Acrobat hyperlinks and Word web links to >Acrobat links during the conversion process. This eliminates the need to >post process the PDF. > Fired it up and sure enough -- clicking on PDFWriter (rather than Distiller) in the PDFMaker configuration dialog causes it to become...well, ok...quite a bit less intelligent. Dale ps: automobile engines seem rather dear just at the moment, working or otherwise -- but thanks for the laugh Aandi! 26-Jun-1998 4:37:49-GMT,3407;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10942 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:37:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA31793; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:11:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:08:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA31626; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:08:11 -0500 Message-ID: <000301bda0b7$ddb8d860$5900a8c0@dale.qspl.stpp.soft.net> From: "Dale Gardner" To: "PDF List" Subject: Re: [PDF] Occasional missing apostrophes and quotes Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:03:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 4:47 PM Subject: [PDF] Occasional missing apostrophes and quotes <...> >The one machine which seems to leave apostrophes and quotes in tact is >running Windows 95. The reason it does not delete apostrophes and quotes >we hypothesize is that it contains a larger number of fonts. We are very >unsure of this hypothesis. Due to the nature of our business, we need to >keep file sizes small. Loading a ton of fonts on every machine is not an >option. > >Is there a font substitution table somewhere (registry?) that is >editable in Distiller? > Nathan: I'm not sure how much I can help, but will give it a try... First, and this is pretty much a guess, I think your intuition is close to the mark...if a font is not available, Acrobat will make a substitution using embedded multiple master fonts. You'd think a quote mark shouldn't be a problem, but hey...things happen, right? The online help files make some references to font substitution tables and such but these are contained in the file itself and not obviously modifiable. It should be easy enough to check this out -- find out what font (fonts?) are causing problems and see if those fonts are installed on the system where you have the problems... If the font is something you might not find on every system (there is a set of 'standard' fonts you can assume will exist on Windows machines), you might want to consider embedding the font. This is not much, but hope it helps... Second, it's my experience that the NT distiller PPD is less functional than the 95 distiller PPD...see some of my previous notes on page size problems for one example. I noticed that in 95 I could do some additional, useful, things like add watermarks and such. Perhaps the NT implementation just doesn't work as well?? Regards, Dale 26-Jun-1998 5:12:31-GMT,2468;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11612 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:12:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00162; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:45:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:42:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00012; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:42:46 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA082.18572980.cgaspar@cgxpress.com> From: cgaspar@cgxpress.com (Christian Gaspar) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Automatic Updating of altered PDF pages in a PDF document Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:42:03 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Does anyone know of any available tools for automatically updating a PDF page within a file (and similarly updating its corresponding bookmarks/links/index)? Using Capture, I'm trying to build a Revision Update Process so that revised pages with a specific "tag" can replace automatically an older version of the page in an otherwise unchanged PDF document. I realize that it can be done manually but for a COLD application covering tens of thousands of pages, there must be an easier way, or a commercial tool, that can effectively "manage" this library of PDF. I'm also aware of dynamic PDF but this would be a scanned product therefore it would not be continuously published. Finally, and related to the above in general, I have not been able to find anything on the internet search engines or Adobe's web site (bless their heart) about Acrobat 3 much-touted "Updateable PDF" feature. What does it mean? How do you use it? What is it for? Can anyone explain or direct me??? Thanks, in advance, for any clues Christian 26-Jun-1998 7:41:29-GMT,1815;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14540 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:41:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04547; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:25:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:20:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA04413; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:20:44 -0500 X-Sender: branskat@suege.fernuni-hagen.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:19:37 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sonja Branskat Subject: [PDF] latex -> pdf Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA04410 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Is there a way to automatically convert existing latex references (e.g. between terms in the text and the glossar or between headings and the table of contents) to links in a pdf file? Thanks, in advance, for any clues s Sonja Branskat Lehrgebiet Praktische Informatik II FernUniversität Hagen 58084 Hagen Germany +49 (02331) 987 2845 sonja.branskat@fernuni-hagen.de 26-Jun-1998 7:54:40-GMT,2039;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14752 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:54:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04966; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:41:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:38:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA04886; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:38:53 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980626080124.00900e90@mail.tim.se> X-Sender: tim-jl@mail.tim.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:01:24 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "johan.leide" Subject: [PDF] PDF's in Explorer (was Blank PDFs) In-Reply-To: <199806251602.MAA12918@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Are they reaching them from Internet explorer?? I have problems with PDF files that refuse to show up correctly in IE3. Sometimes it will only show part of the elements on the page sometimes only a blank page. I know this discussion has been on the list before. Did anyone save the discussion? BR Johan Leide >Our website contains a very large amount of PDF's. Our field reps are >accessing this site with many different PCs. Some are encountering a blank >screen when opening a PDF. Is this common? Johan Leide Teknik i Media 040-97 33 10 0706-72 00 35 Http://www.tim.se johan.leide@tim.se 26-Jun-1998 7:56:47-GMT,1681;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14782 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:56:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA05160; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:46:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:44:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA05067; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:44:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199806260744.CAA05061@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat plugin needed!! Date: Fri, 26 Jun 98 09:44:18 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >Does anyone know of an Acrobat Plugin which can export a pdf into other >formats! Which formats will you need? If you just need PostScript you'll be happy to find the free ExportPS in your plug-in directory. If you need something else you can consider using GhostScript to convert your PDF files directly in bitmap formats (e.g. TIFF). Andrea 26-Jun-1998 8:16:47-GMT,2591;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15126 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:16:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05651; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:04:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:02:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05560; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:02:26 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic Updating of altered PDF pages in a PDF document Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:02:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bda0d8$bec05de0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01BDA082.18572980.cgaspar@cgxpress.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Christian wrote: Does anyone know of any available tools for automatically updating a > PDF page within a file (and similarly updating its corresponding > bookmarks/links/index)? > > Using Capture, I'm trying to build a Revision Update Process so that > revised pages with a specific "tag" can replace automatically an older > version of the page in an otherwise unchanged PDF document. I realize > that it can be done manually but for a COLD application covering tens > of thousands of pages, there must be an easier way, or a commercial > tool, that can effectively "manage" this library of PDF. You may wish to take a look at our PDFfusion product. Check out www.docctrl.com. Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat 26-Jun-1998 8:52:05-GMT,2103;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15896 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:52:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06576; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:35:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:32:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06450; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:32:16 -0500 X-Envelope-Sender-Is: wolfgang.glunz@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Message-Id: <199806260827.KAA19793@weisshorn.mchp.siemens.de> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat plugin needed!! In-Reply-To: <199806260744.CAA05061@everglades.binc.net> from Andrea Valle at "Jun 26, 98 09:44:18 am" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:27:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Glunz X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL35 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >Does anyone know of an Acrobat Plugin which can export a pdf into other > >formats! > Which formats will you need? > If you just need PostScript you'll be happy to find the free ExportPS in > your plug-in directory. > If you need something else you can consider using GhostScript to convert > your PDF files directly in bitmap formats (e.g. TIFF). > If you need the page in vector format, you can use pstoedit which uses ghostscript in it's core. Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Glunz email: Wolfgang.Glunz@oen.siemens.de 26-Jun-1998 8:53:25-GMT,4981;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15907 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:53:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06511; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:33:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:29:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06335; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:29:56 -0500 Message-ID: <000301bda0db$ddc1f5c0$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: "Nic Plum" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Re: [PDF] Word documents to PDF Files. Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:29:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Since Word 98 for the Mac uses VBA as does the older Word 97 for the PC you ought to be able to use it on the Mac. The only issue is whether the programmers at Adobe showed enough intelligence to anticipate some of the differences e.g. wrt forming path names, file types and creators or whether they didn't and it throws an error. There's only one way to find out! Nic. PS There seems to be a general misconception that the Mac is somehow incompatible - for many years now thanks to Microsoft et al it has been possible to share files, macros and consequently viruses with ease between MS Office on the PC and the Mac. Even the files have the same structure nowadays requiring no conversion. We can read and format PC disks (a feature for the last > 8 years). We all inhabit the one (Microsoft) world ! _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Mueller To: 'PDF-List' Cc: 'RobertB425@aol.com' Date: 24 June 1998 17:17 Subject: AW: Re: [PDF] Word documents to PDF Files. > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >Robert, >for Windows Word 98 theres a Visual-Basic-For-Application-macro available, called PDFMaker. I do not really know, if the plan a version for MacOS. >But a transfer to some Windows Word 98 could make more sense than to FrameMaker. >Regards >Tom > >+ - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - >Thomas Mueller > >Author and Consultant for Digital Communication >P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany >Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 > http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html > > >---------- >Von: RobertB425@aol.com >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 1998 16:30 >An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Betreff: Re: Re: [PDF] Word documents to PDF Files. > > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >I am new to PDF. I am in the process of writing the 2nd edition of my >published textbook as a PDF web/electronic/CD book. My original is in MSWord 6 >for the Macintosh. I have recently acquired MSWord 98 for the Mac. MSWord 98 >has linking capability. How can I put the hotlinks in my MSWord 98 file and >then print to a ps file for Distiller with the links intact. I tried it on a >short file, and the links are not there after distilling. I know that >FrameMaker will do this, but the time to convert from Word to FrameMaker is >too long - too many changes. > >Thanks. > 26-Jun-1998 10:20:57-GMT,2340;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17313 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:20:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07679; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:15:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:11:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07502; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:11:11 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:47:21 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel Mason Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat plugin needed!! In-Reply-To: <199806260744.CAA05061@everglades.binc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Andrea, I was kind of looking at translation into Word, but expecting too much I think!!! Ghostscript sounds useful though, how do I get hold of that??? In message <199806260744.CAA05061@everglades.binc.net>, Andrea Valle writes > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >>Does anyone know of an Acrobat Plugin which can export a pdf into other >>formats! >Which formats will you need? >If you just need PostScript you'll be happy to find the free ExportPS in >your plug-in directory. >If you need something else you can consider using GhostScript to convert >your PDF files directly in bitmap formats (e.g. TIFF). > >Andrea -- Daniel Mason 26-Jun-1998 10:21:03-GMT,3512;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17316 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:21:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07678; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:15:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:11:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07526; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:11:27 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:41:51 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel Mason Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? In-Reply-To: <000b01bda053$d922ace0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Aandi, Got a bit lost with the X and Y's but I see your point. (!) I guess I'll keep trying, thanks for the advice. In message <000b01bda053$d922ace0$0101c6c0@gateway>, Aandi Inston writes > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > >> Kind of..yes, but as much as I'd like to I cannot forget word. My task >> has been set to figure out a way of translating a Quark Doc >> into word. > >Ok, it that's the task, you may find a solution, but I don't think >it will involve PDF. PDF is best not considered as a stage along the >way but a final format. The ease with which you can convert X to PDF >and Y to PDF leads to the understandable but mistaken assumption that >converting PDF to X or PDF to Y is just as easy, so X to Y is easy >via X to PDF and PDF to Y. No. > >> >> Because the whole admin dept. is based around word, we are tring to >> avoid the need and learning curve (minimal as I know it is) to use >> Acrobat on all workstations. As well as the cost of multiple >> licence for >> Exhange. I can't believe we are the only ones trying to do this! > > >Well, yes, and Adobe like nothing better than selling Exchange to >every desktop in the company. Why should they provide a solution that >means you buy just one or two copies to implement a sophisticated >solution company wide...that would be Adobe's position, I suspect. >> >> Maybe we're looking to do too much, for too little! but as we are not >> yet ready to totally implement Acrobat across the board, if >> this is not >> possible, for the time being we'll have to carry on printing docs >> through Quark on the Mac and re-feed it into the printer on the PC!!! > >Well you could convert to PDF, then print the PDF from the PC and >feed that through the printer. Not much nicer, but it moves some >of the responsibilities. > >Aandi -- Daniel Mason 26-Jun-1998 10:25:23-GMT,1564;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17399 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:25:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA08945; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 05:03:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:59:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08809; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:59:44 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <4125662F.003C305D.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:59:14 +0100 Subject: Antwort: RE: [PDF] Search in a browser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hi ... When I installed Arcobat Exchange 3.1 I got a PDF-Web-plugin installed, that allowes document intern textsearching. Will there be an official Reader-Plugin that supports textsearching in the Webbrowser? Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) 26-Jun-1998 11:57:33-GMT,2702;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18952 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 05:57:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11218; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:30:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:26:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11057; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:26:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:18:48 +0100 Message-ID: <4751-Fri26Jun1998121848+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] latex -> pdf In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Sonja Branskat writes: > Is there a way to automatically convert existing latex references (e.g. > between terms in the text and the glossar or between headings and the table > of contents) to links in a pdf file? golly, yes, in spades. TeX is one of the most efficient ways of generating quality PDF. see http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/ for a macro package, supporting several backends. it covers all normal cross-refs, tables of contents etc, and adds support for forms and full control of PDF behaviour (eg its easy to specify what page transitions are to be used) the most interesting backend that for pdfTeX, which is a TeX variant which generates PDF instead of dvi. no need for Distiller or anything, entirely free-standing. pdfTeX gives you access to all[1] features of PDF, except optimization. that includes stuff you cannot do in Exchange, like named destinations. Its also easier to access the low-level objects than with pdfmarks. It is unusual in that it allows you to input other (single page) PDF files as placed graphics. eat your heart out, Microsoft. who needs "placed PDF"? Sebastian [1] well, probably not true, but I cannot think of anything I cannot do. 26-Jun-1998 13:59:35-GMT,3080;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21132 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:59:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15670; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:33:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:28:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15385; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:28:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199806261328.JAA02483@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> From: "Linda Bajumpaa" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat plugin needed!! Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:26:52 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Daniel The Ambia plug-in, Aerial, has a PDF to RTF option and it works extremely well. ---------- > From: Daniel Mason > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat plugin needed!! > Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 4:47 AM > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Andrea, > > I was kind of looking at translation into Word, but expecting too much I > think!!! > > Ghostscript sounds useful though, how do I get hold of that??? > > > > In message <199806260744.CAA05061@everglades.binc.net>, Andrea Valle > writes > > > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > >To Sub/Unsub: > >------------------------------------------------------------ > >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > > >>Does anyone know of an Acrobat Plugin which can export a pdf into other > >>formats! > >Which formats will you need? > >If you just need PostScript you'll be happy to find the free ExportPS in > >your plug-in directory. > >If you need something else you can consider using GhostScript to convert > >your PDF files directly in bitmap formats (e.g. TIFF). > > > >Andrea > > -- > Daniel Mason 26-Jun-1998 14:07:16-GMT,4199;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21330 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:07:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16573; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:54:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:51:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16417; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:51:54 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: PENTON CLEVELAND From: "John Hricko" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525662F.00474D9E.00@mail.penton.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:00:09 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Re: re: Running from from CD [V2 #252] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Last try, to clarify: We're trying to create a CD which already has Acrobat on it, totally self-contained, ready to run from the CD. We're trying to avoid having the users install it on their own systems. My supervisors feel we can better control the settings of the application (I myself have my doubts) if it's already installed. But Acrobat doesn't like to run "self-contained". It relies on MM fonts being in the system/font folder (Mac), and DLLs being in certain places for WIN95. WIN3.1 seems to behave. Regardless, we WILL also include the standard installers as dictated by Adobe. Thus far, all indicators are that it _can't_ be done. The problem is that my supervisor HAS an example of this type of CD-ROM, using Reader 2.1 for WIN95. btw, yes, we've cut many an ISO/hybrid CD -that's not a problem. Thanks to all who have contributed to this posting. John Hricko Penton New Media >------------------------------ > > >John, > >Have you tried doing this from the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM? This >CD-ROM from Adobe is created with all the bells and whistles to work on >all operating systems. > >If that fails, you are probably wasting your time trying to figure out >how to make your own CD-ROM do it. If it works, you are into a different >set of problems cutting a multi-OS CD-ROM. Hint: do it on a MAC. > >That is not a religious statement so please no religious wars. The tools >are available on the MAC. I was not able to find the correct set of >tools to burn a CD-ROM from Windows 95 in all the formats supported by >the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM. I looked. Your mileage may vary. > >Russell Hansberry >rhans@tsi-net.com > John Hricko wrote: >> >> ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >> Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >> -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >> To Sub/Unsub: >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >> >> I'm repeating myself here, but I'm looking for anyone who's actually had >> experience creating a CD with Acrobat already installed on it for multiple >> platforms (Win3.1, Win95, Mac), so that the application runs from the CD. >> (I know that I must include the original installer from Adobe.) _Somebody_ >> told my boss it could be done, so I'm on the case. >> >> I'm using a Zip disk in order to test the disk image before burning a >> CD-ROM. It was earlier stated that ATM is no longer needed to run Reader >> from an external disk, but I continue to get messages stating that ATM >> could not be found, and the program refuses to launch on the Mac. It seems >> to work o.k. for WIN3.1. WIN95 keeps looking for a DLL and won't launch. >> >> Can this really be done? >> >> John Hricko >> Penton New Media 26-Jun-1998 14:16:57-GMT,5257;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21501 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:16:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17091; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:02:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:00:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16936; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:00:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: re: Running from from CD [V2 #252] Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:01:29 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Just tell you boss that you want to see the sample. Then lets report this guy to Adobe! I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN REPEATED NUMEROUS TIMES, BUT PERHAPS BOLD TYPE WOULD BE BETTER. ***YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO WHAT YOU ARE ASKING, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY WORK, AND YOU HAVE SEEN SAMPLES!!!!!!!!!!!*** > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hricko [SMTP:jhricko@penton.com] > Sent: Friday, June 26, 1998 7:00 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Re: re: Running from from CD [V2 #252] > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Last try, to clarify: > > We're trying to create a CD which already has Acrobat on it, totally > self-contained, ready to run from the CD. We're trying to avoid having > the > users install it on their own systems. My supervisors feel we can > better > control the settings of the application (I myself have my doubts) if > it's > already installed. But Acrobat doesn't like to run "self-contained". > It > relies on MM fonts being in the system/font folder (Mac), and DLLs > being in > certain places for WIN95. WIN3.1 seems to behave. Regardless, we WILL > also > include the standard installers as dictated by Adobe. Thus far, all > indicators are that it _can't_ be done. > > The problem is that my supervisor HAS an example of this type of > CD-ROM, > using Reader 2.1 for WIN95. > > btw, yes, we've cut many an ISO/hybrid CD -that's not a problem. > > Thanks to all who have contributed to this posting. > > John Hricko > Penton New Media > > >------------------------------ > > > > > >John, > > > >Have you tried doing this from the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM? This > >CD-ROM from Adobe is created with all the bells and whistles to work > on > >all operating systems. > > > >If that fails, you are probably wasting your time trying to figure > out > >how to make your own CD-ROM do it. If it works, you are into a > different > >set of problems cutting a multi-OS CD-ROM. Hint: do it on a MAC. > > > >That is not a religious statement so please no religious wars. The > tools > >are available on the MAC. I was not able to find the correct set of > >tools to burn a CD-ROM from Windows 95 in all the formats supported > by > >the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM. I looked. Your mileage may vary. > > > >Russell Hansberry > >rhans@tsi-net.com > > > John Hricko wrote: > >> > >> ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > >> Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > >> -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > >> To Sub/Unsub: > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >> > >> I'm repeating myself here, but I'm looking for anyone who's > actually had > >> experience creating a CD with Acrobat already installed on it for > multiple > >> platforms (Win3.1, Win95, Mac), so that the application runs from > the > CD. > >> (I know that I must include the original installer from Adobe.) > _Somebody_ > >> told my boss it could be done, so I'm on the case. > >> > >> I'm using a Zip disk in order to test the disk image before burning > a > >> CD-ROM. It was earlier stated that ATM is no longer needed to run > Reader > >> from an external disk, but I continue to get messages stating that > ATM > >> could not be found, and the program refuses to launch on the Mac. > It > seems > >> to work o.k. for WIN3.1. WIN95 keeps looking for a DLL and won't > launch. > >> > >> Can this really be done? > >> > >> John Hricko > >> Penton New Media > 26-Jun-1998 14:34:38-GMT,2421;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21868 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:34:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16760; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:57:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:55:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16639; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:55:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199806261355.JAA17782@wacky.total.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Embedded TT Problem Date: Fri, 26 Jun 98 09:55:58 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Edward Chiu To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I would suggest you to output that PDF file directly using Crakerjack plug-in. >I am having a problem printing embedded TrueType subsetted fonts to our >imagesetters (SyTex, Agfa, PantherPro). I receive Quark documents with >advertisements that are placed EPS files. The original files are PDF's, >however Quark will not allow direct placement of PDF's. The PDF ad is >"Exported" in Exchange then placed in Quark. When I examine the file all >fonts are subsetted, all but one are Type 1 embedded. The problem font >(Helvetica) is TrueType and also embedded. I can print the PDF file fine to >all our output devices, however after an EPS is made the RIP's can no >longer find the font and it prints as Courier. > >Why can I print the file OK when in Exchange, but not out of Quark? > >How and what do I fix so these jobs print? > >I have contacted Adobe, SciTex, and Agfa several times, but no one has a >clue. In addition I've conducted many tests to no avail. Can anyone help? > >Thanks! > >George Spiese >Corporate Macintosh Analyst >The Mack Printing Group >gspiese@mpg.com > > > < ed > 26-Jun-1998 15:04:49-GMT,2611;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22492 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:04:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19198; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:43:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:38:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18962; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:38:23 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: re: Running from from CD [V2 #252] Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:33:15 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bda10f$f1737920$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8525662F.00474D9E.00@mail.penton.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Last try, to clarify: > > We're trying to create a CD which already has Acrobat on it, totally > self-contained, ready to run from the CD. We're trying to > avoid having the > users install it on their own systems. My supervisors feel we > can better > control the settings of the application (I myself have my > doubts) if it's > already installed. But Acrobat doesn't like to run > "self-contained". It > relies on MM fonts being in the system/font folder (Mac), and > DLLs being in > certain places for WIN95. WIN3.1 seems to behave. Regardless, > we WILL also > include the standard installers as dictated by Adobe. Thus far, all > indicators are that it _can't_ be done. > > The problem is that my supervisor HAS an example of this type > of CD-ROM, > using Reader 2.1 for WIN95. Reader 2.1 had a less restrictive license for redistribution; and didn't use the registry. I do hope Adobe ship a "ready to run" Reader, but I would think that if it could be done simply with the current product, they would have done it by now. Aandi 26-Jun-1998 15:05:21-GMT,5735;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22516 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:05:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19197; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:43:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:39:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19023; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:39:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: re: Running from from CD [V2 #252] Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:42:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Moreover.... it's a dumb idea, sacrificing stability and functionality for what? A good developer should be able to exert ALMOST all the control he/she wants over a PDF-based CD-ROM (a little ini tweaking aside!) via the PDF file settings themselves. Reader is almost always a smooth, quiet install, that does NOT require system restarts (for the most part). Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > Behalf Of Czajka, Mark > Sent: Friday, June 26, 1998 7:01 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: re: Running from from CD [V2 #252] > Just tell you boss that you want to see the sample. Then lets report > this guy to Adobe! > > I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN REPEATED NUMEROUS TIMES, BUT PERHAPS BOLD TYPE > WOULD BE BETTER. ***YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO WHAT YOU ARE > ASKING, EVEN > THOUGH IT MAY WORK, AND YOU HAVE SEEN SAMPLES!!!!!!!!!!!*** > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Hricko [SMTP:jhricko@penton.com] > > Sent: Friday, June 26, 1998 7:00 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] Re: re: Running from from CD [V2 #252] > > Last try, to clarify: > > > > We're trying to create a CD which already has Acrobat on it, totally > > self-contained, ready to run from the CD. We're trying to > avoid having > > the > > users install it on their own systems. My supervisors feel we can > > better > > control the settings of the application (I myself have my doubts) if > > it's > > already installed. But Acrobat doesn't like to run "self-contained". > > It > > relies on MM fonts being in the system/font folder (Mac), and DLLs > > being in > > certain places for WIN95. WIN3.1 seems to behave. > Regardless, we WILL > > also > > include the standard installers as dictated by Adobe. Thus far, all > > indicators are that it _can't_ be done. > > > > The problem is that my supervisor HAS an example of this type of > > CD-ROM, > > using Reader 2.1 for WIN95. > > > > btw, yes, we've cut many an ISO/hybrid CD -that's not a problem. > > > > Thanks to all who have contributed to this posting. > > > > John Hricko > > Penton New Media > > > > >------------------------------ > > > > > > > > >John, > > > > > >Have you tried doing this from the Adobe Acrobat Reader > CD-ROM? This > > >CD-ROM from Adobe is created with all the bells and > whistles to work > > on > > >all operating systems. > > > > > >If that fails, you are probably wasting your time trying to figure > > out > > >how to make your own CD-ROM do it. If it works, you are into a > > different > > >set of problems cutting a multi-OS CD-ROM. Hint: do it on a MAC. > > > > > >That is not a religious statement so please no religious wars. The > > tools > > >are available on the MAC. I was not able to find the correct set of > > >tools to burn a CD-ROM from Windows 95 in all the formats supported > > by > > >the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM. I looked. Your mileage may vary. > > > > > >Russell Hansberry > > >rhans@tsi-net.com > > > > > John Hricko wrote: > > >> > > >> ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > > >> Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > > >> -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > > >> To Sub/Unsub: > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > >> > > >> I'm repeating myself here, but I'm looking for anyone who's > > actually had > > >> experience creating a CD with Acrobat already installed on it for > > multiple > > >> platforms (Win3.1, Win95, Mac), so that the application runs from > > the > > CD. > > >> (I know that I must include the original installer from Adobe.) > > _Somebody_ > > >> told my boss it could be done, so I'm on the case. > > >> > > >> I'm using a Zip disk in order to test the disk image > before burning > > a > > >> CD-ROM. It was earlier stated that ATM is no longer needed to run > > Reader > > >> from an external disk, but I continue to get messages > stating that > > ATM > > >> could not be found, and the program refuses to launch on the Mac. > > It > > seems > > >> to work o.k. for WIN3.1. WIN95 keeps looking for a DLL and won't > > launch. > > >> > > >> Can this really be done? > > >> > > >> John Hricko > > >> Penton New Media > > > 26-Jun-1998 15:21:36-GMT,1583;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22918 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:21:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20505; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:05:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:02:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20253; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:01:57 -0500 From: ddavis@edcc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:03:05 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] distiller won't work out of pagemaker 6.5 X-Info: Edmonds Community College Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" On export from pagemaker 6.5 I get an error message cannot create Acrobat printer style. Selecting continue backs pagemaker out with a type 2 error. Can anyone help? The printer type is HP 1200c/ppd acrobat. PDF file of the same doc. can be created on another machine. 26-Jun-1998 15:40:51-GMT,2500;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23369 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:40:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21488; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:23:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:19:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21179; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:19:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3593BBA8.2BC40F0B@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:18:00 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: Antwort: RE: [PDF] Search in a browser References: <4125662F.003C305D.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA21176 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I think 4.0 will. Bob Moran Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Hi ... > > When I installed Arcobat Exchange 3.1 I got a PDF-Web-plugin installed, > that allowes document intern textsearching. > Will there be an official Reader-Plugin that supports textsearching in the > Webbrowser? > > Regards, > Laura Dietz > (Mannesmann Arcor) -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller 26-Jun-1998 15:47:33-GMT,3160;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23515 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:47:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22004; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:31:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:27:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21738; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:27:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199806261527.HAA23585@alaska.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: re: Running from from CD [V2 #252] Date: Fri, 26 Jun 98 07:30:01 -0800 x-sender: dtak@mailhost.alaska.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: dtak To: "pdf lists" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" John folks have told you repeatedly this is not possible - and furthermore NOT LEGAL. Sections of the license agreement have been quoted, explained, discussed. I'm sure the lawyers at Adobe would love to explain it to your supervisor, perhaps to your company's lawyer? As for controlling things, if the level of control that Acrobat provides is not enough, then its time for you folks to look at doing things a different way. Nothing personal, just the opinion of one who has grown tired of this thread.. DT > >===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== >Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: >-> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- >To Sub/Unsub: >------------------------------------------------------------ >The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >Last try, to clarify: > >We're trying to create a CD which already has Acrobat on it, totally >self-contained, ready to run from the CD. We're trying to avoid having the >users install it on their own systems. My supervisors feel we can better >control the settings of the application (I myself have my doubts) if it's >already installed. But Acrobat doesn't like to run "self-contained". It >relies on MM fonts being in the system/font folder (Mac), and DLLs being in >certain places for WIN95. WIN3.1 seems to behave. Regardless, we WILL also >include the standard installers as dictated by Adobe. Thus far, all >indicators are that it _can't_ be done. > >The problem is that my supervisor HAS an example of this type of CD-ROM, >using Reader 2.1 for WIN95. > >btw, yes, we've cut many an ISO/hybrid CD -that's not a problem. > >Thanks to all who have contributed to this posting. > >John Hricko >Penton New Media > 26-Jun-1998 15:55:59-GMT,4051;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23679 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:55:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22696; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:43:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:40:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22483; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:40:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3593C0AB.82349F80@beacon.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:39:23 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: re: Running from from CD [V2 #252] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Czajka, Mark wrote: > > Just tell you boss that you want to see the sample. Then lets report > this guy to Adobe! > > I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN REPEATED NUMEROUS TIMES, BUT PERHAPS BOLD TYPE > WOULD BE BETTER. ***YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO WHAT YOU ARE ASKING, EVEN > THOUGH IT MAY WORK, AND YOU HAVE SEEN SAMPLES!!!!!!!!!!!*** My interpretation of Adobe's intent is the same. However, their EULA doesn't specifically address the self-contained ready-to-run Acrobat Reader situation. C.f. two pertinent paragraphs of the Acrobat Reader EULA (from http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/eula.html): "[...] "You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software, including copies for commercial distribution, as long as each copy that you make and distribute contains this Agreement, the Acrobat Reader installer, and the same copyright and other proprietary notices pertaining to this Software that appear in the Software. If you download the Software from the Internet or similar online source, you must include the Adobe copyright notice for the Software with any online distribution and on any media you distribute that includes the Software. "[...] "3. Restrictions. You agree not to modify, adapt, translate, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, or otherwise attempt to discover the source code of the Software. Although you may customize the installer for the Software as documented on the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM (e.g., installation of additional plug-in and help files), you may not alter or modify in any way the installer program or create a new installer for the Software. The Software is licensed and distributed by Adobe for viewing, distributing, and sharing PDF files. Any plug-in or enhancement that permits you to save modifications to a PDF file is authorized only for use with the Acrobat Exchange(R) program and may not be used with the Software." My read of this is that Adobe wants to maintain control of the installation "experience" for any Acrobat Reader user, as was mentioned before. Although it's not specifically stated, I think it is reasonable for Adobe to expect, as I believe they do, that the Acrobat Reader will not be distributed in any other form than in the Adobe-provided installer. In the legal arena providing a pre-installed Acrobat Reader would probably be considered an extension of the "create a new installer" wording above. However, the EULA should probably just prohibit it outright. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group 26-Jun-1998 16:49:48-GMT,3302;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25097 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:49:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24537; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:19:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:16:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24369; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:16:37 -0500 From: gspiese@mpg.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: MPG To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525662F.00595A6D.00@mpgmail.mpg.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:18:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Embedded TT Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I have no problem outputting the PDF file from Exchange-it prints great. My problem is that the file must be placed in Quark. To do this the file is exported to an EPS file then placed in Quark. Neither the EPS, nor the Quark file print the one TrueType font even though it's embedded. Any other ideas? George Spiese The Mack Printing Group gspiese@mpg.com edwardc@total.net on 06/26/98 09:55:58 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: George Spiese/MIS/EASTON/MPG) Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Embedded TT Problem ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I would suggest you to output that PDF file directly using Crakerjack plug-in. >I am having a problem printing embedded TrueType subsetted fonts to our >imagesetters (SyTex, Agfa, PantherPro). I receive Quark documents with >advertisements that are placed EPS files. The original files are PDF's, >however Quark will not allow direct placement of PDF's. The PDF ad is >"Exported" in Exchange then placed in Quark. When I examine the file all >fonts are subsetted, all but one are Type 1 embedded. The problem font >(Helvetica) is TrueType and also embedded. I can print the PDF file fine to >all our output devices, however after an EPS is made the RIP's can no >longer find the font and it prints as Courier. > >Why can I print the file OK when in Exchange, but not out of Quark? > >How and what do I fix so these jobs print? > >I have contacted Adobe, SciTex, and Agfa several times, but no one has a >clue. In addition I've conducted many tests to no avail. Can anyone help? > >Thanks! > >George Spiese >Corporate Macintosh Analyst >The Mack Printing Group >gspiese@mpg.com > > > < ed > 26-Jun-1998 17:07:37-GMT,1804;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25635 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:07:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25948; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:48:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:45:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25827; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:45:09 -0500 Message-Id: <9806261630.AA02165@atla3> Subject: [PDF] GhostScript URL Date: Fri, 26 Jun 98 12:37:18 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >I was kind of looking at translation into Word, but expecting too much I >think!!! > >Ghostscript sounds useful though, how do I get hold of that??? GhostScript http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org 26-Jun-1998 17:48:30-GMT,2508;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26888 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:48:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27096; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:15:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:12:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26951; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:12:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:12:11 -0500 From: Paul Schulte To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark-pdf-word?? - Reply Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Daniel, If your mgmt. is so keen on using Word, why not simply export the forms from Quark as RTF instead of trying to use Acrobat's PDF as the textual/formatting exchange medium? PDF is not really the best means of trying to get formatting (Microsoft's styles). I'm sure Quark can export it's text and formatting into several formats that Word can use. Your company will have to invest the time to re-create portions of the form in Word, no matter which method you use of converting the forms. That's what your mgmt. is really contemplating here -- a file format conversion. To go along with Aandi Inston's comments on misinformation or misassumptions, this one is a classic mgmt. assumption. Microsoft Word is free (as it's on the desktop), it's user friendly, it takes very little training, etc. It's not the right desktop publishing choice in all areas, but too many managers do not understand Word's limitations. File format conversions have just as much potential to waste resources as properly training staff in applications. I would point out that users can learn Acrobat in a few hours, than try to deal with the hurdles your mgmt. is choosing. Not a bad tradeoff, if you can get your mgmt. to listen. Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. 27-Jun-1998 8:10:21-GMT,4810;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13836 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 02:10:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23042; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 02:47:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 27 Jun 1998 02:41:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA22855; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 02:40:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: webweavr@shell11.ba.best.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:39:33 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Chris Beaumont Subject: [PDF] Converting PDF to X Y or Z Cc: Dan@pierhse.demon.co.uk Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >Does anyone know of an Acrobat Plugin which can export a pdf into other >formats! > >Daniel Mason Hi Daniel, A very good question that I wish I knew the answer to.. Good luck. It's quite possible that I'm wrong, but I dont know of a good way. I am on a Mac, it may be different on a PC or using Unix tools like Ghostscript.. (Look on the Adobe web site, there may be an Exchange plug in I dont know about. ) A little thing a lot of people dont realize, the way I understood it, PDF was created originally to be next to impossible to copy text out of, at least that is what I remember being told by Adobe reps in early 1994 or so... This was because of publishers fears that the Internet would enable a lot of copying of their PDF-based documentation...And Adobe was scared that people would get free fonts from other net-based document formats that were being promoted.. hence the font embedding..Current problems going from PDF to other formats are traceable back to these limitations/features. (depending on your point of view.. ) They dont like to talk about it, though.. So going from PDF to Word may be difficult from what I can gather. (Other readers, PLEASE correct me if anyone knows a good way- particularly for the text, on Mac....). After much trial and error with every hack imaginable if you are doing a lot of pages, I would try a pathetic "solution".. "printing" to bitmaps using a program like "PrintToPict" (on the Mac) and then OCR. This can be automated fairly easily with high accuracy.. But it seems so well, inelegant.. Or cut and paste with the option key to select columns, page by page (very time consuming and often innaccurate....) If the pages are all in similar format you might be able to rig up a Quick Keys or some other macro to automate one of these products.. But there has to be a better way..... I tried Iceni Genesis demo recently. Iceni makes a plugin that works well extracting the text, but it's not worked for a friend and I on a recent project with embedded graphics as well as I'd like.. so I didnt buy it.. (Maybye that was our fault..some of the graphics were created in Quark.. not EPS's) It's also around $240 US.. (perhaps prohibitive for one-time use..) Some programs will import PDF one page at a time..as graphics.. but I havnt seen one that allows you to import multi-page PDF. So it's probably cutting and pasting...or something similar.. Please correct me if there is some simple solution I have overlooked. There are other problems going PDF>HTML if that is another goal. >From what I understand you need a fairly expensive product to do a live search of PDF on the web, while with HTML a simple freeware program like swish will suffice.. Acrobat Reader may also still be unavailable on some Unix platforms, but they have probably fixed that by now.. I think it runs on all Wintel platforms, but it might not perform well on low-memory older machines.. (the kind that also need older web browsers..) I also think that robot search indexes like Excite can't find your PDF stuff. As far as I know, they cant search PDF from the web directly .. So lack of access to real search engines, need to use byteserving, file size, etc. are factors to consider.. However, among other plusses, like the internal and external link capability and ease of getting nice hardcopy output,Acrobat does have many plusses.. Just keep the originals.. Thank you _ Chris Beaumont / WebWeavers E-mail: chris@ncafe.com 27-Jun-1998 8:14:36-GMT,2238;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13919 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 02:14:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA23520; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 03:05:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 27 Jun 1998 03:03:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23418; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 03:03:00 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 27 Jun 98 01:02 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Dan@pierhse.demon.co.uk In-reply-to: (message from Chris Beaumont on Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:39:33 -0700) Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting PDF to X Y or Z Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > Good luck. It's quite possible that I'm wrong, but I dont know of a good way. > I am on a Mac, it may be different on a PC or using Unix tools like > Ghostscript.. Ghostscript runs on Unix, MS-DOS, MS Windows, Mac, OS/2, VMS, and operating systems you never heard of. :-) It does a fine job of turning PDF into raster formats, and an OK job (better in the next release) of PDF to PostScript. However, it isn't of any help to speak of in converting PDF to document formats like Frame or MS Word: doing that is a little bit like trying to unscramble an egg, since so much of the original document structure is lost. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html 27-Jun-1998 20:45:54-GMT,2078;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26011 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 14:45:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09807; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:32:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:24:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09476; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:24:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Embedded TT Problem Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 14:25:14 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1313164980-379776@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" gspiese@mpg.com (gspiese@mpg.com) wrote on 6/26/98 9:18 AM: >I have no problem outputting the PDF file from Exchange-it prints great. My >problem is that the file must be placed in Quark. To do this the file is >exported to an EPS file then placed in Quark. Neither the EPS, nor the >Quark file print the one TrueType font even though it's embedded. If you have the fonts in question installed on your computer, you could open the PDF or EPS in Illustrator/Freehand and convert the fonts to outlines/curves and re-save as an EPS. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax 28-Jun-1998 12:01:47-GMT,2482;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11446 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA32692; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:32:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:27:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA32539; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:27:08 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] File Processing Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:26:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bda287$905c61a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000501bda27a$8c3a9040$8a4b3cc3@blackjack> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > I am new to the Acrobat world and this is probably a dumb > question, however, > I was always told the only dumb questions are the ones you > don't ask. My > question: I recently processed an of Acrobat file of a > technical manual I > wrote. The file was processed using the 32-bit version of > Acrobat. It is > possible to read this file on a machine running Windows 3.0 > or Windows for > Work Groups 3.11 or must I re-process it using the 16-bit version. Not a dumb question, but you'll be glad to hear that the P of PDF stands for portable, and with a few exceptions Acrobat manages this. So make-once-use-anywhere works, mostly. So long as "anywhere" is defined to mean "machines for which a reader exists, and which have enough resources to run it". Do you mean Windows 3.1? I doubt there is a reader for Windows 3.0, or that machines still running 3.0 would have enough RAM to run a Reader if there was one... Aandi 28-Jun-1998 12:01:50-GMT,1940;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11449 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:01:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA31005; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:18:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:55:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA30476; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:55:44 -0500 Message-ID: <000501bda27a$8c3a9040$8a4b3cc3@blackjack> From: "Harold J. Bigley" To: Subject: [PDF] File Processing Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:52:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hi All, I am new to the Acrobat world and this is probably a dumb question, however, I was always told the only dumb questions are the ones you don't ask. My question: I recently processed an of Acrobat file of a technical manual I wrote. The file was processed using the 32-bit version of Acrobat. It is possible to read this file on a machine running Windows 3.0 or Windows for Work Groups 3.11 or must I re-process it using the 16-bit version. Thanks in Advance H.James Bigley 28-Jun-1998 13:54:03-GMT,3008;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13162 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 07:54:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02810; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:30:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:25:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02665; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:25:20 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000501bda27a$8c3a9040$8a4b3cc3@blackjack> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:07:52 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] File Processing Cc: "Harold J. Bigley" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Harold, Naa, Adobe is not _that_ stupid . The PDF format has been made to be platform independent. This mean that it can be read on many different computer systems. Well, there is one condition. The PDF format is not downward compatible. That means you need to have a reader which is on the same or newer level than the level of the creator (Distiller). Simpler said, if you created the PDF file with Acrobat 3, you can't read it with Acrobat 2. But this is valid for all versions, no matter whether it was "16-bit", "32-bit" or "64-bit". The other way round works without problems (reading a PDF file created with Acrobat 2 in Acrobat 3). So, there is nothing against using your files on Wintel boxes. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Hi All, > >I am new to the Acrobat world and this is probably a dumb question, however, >I was always told the only dumb questions are the ones you don't ask. My >question: I recently processed an of Acrobat file of a technical manual I >wrote. The file was processed using the 32-bit version of Acrobat. It is >possible to read this file on a machine running Windows 3.0 or Windows for >Work Groups 3.11 or must I re-process it using the 16-bit version. > >Thanks in Advance > >H.James Bigley 28-Jun-1998 16:13:58-GMT,2238;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15478 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:13:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07302; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:03:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:57:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07094; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:57:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:58:25 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Occasional missing apostrophes and quotes Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" The combination of NT4 and the Adobe/Microsoft driver PS4.0 hosing quotation marks is a documented bug. I don't know about apostrophes. Try the newer Adobe/Microsoft PS5.0 driver along with the Distiller PPD. _______________ Nathan wrote: We experience occasional missing apostrophes and quotes in PDFs when we distill using the Distill 3.0 print driver for Windows 95 or the Distill 3.0 print driver for Windows NT on their respective platforms. The PPD used was for distill with print to file selected which is exactly what we are trying to do. The one machine which seems to leave apostrophes and quotes in tact is running Windows 95. The reason it does not delete apostrophes and quotes we hypothesize is that it contains a larger number of fonts. We are very unsure of this hypothesis. Due to the nature of our business, we need to keep file sizes small. Loading a ton of fonts on every machine is not an option. 29-Jun-1998 7:29:48-GMT,1601;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01229 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:29:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00428; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:12:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:06:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00278; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:06:52 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA33C.DFF03AB0.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "PDF@lists. pdfzone. com (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] html2ps problem Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:04:06 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" hello, when converting html to postscript this perl script writes it can't find some posix module. i run perl from activeware on win nt 4, sp 3. what is the cause and what are remedies, if any? thanx in advance, Jernej 29-Jun-1998 9:52:53-GMT,1920;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03802 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:52:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03900; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:35:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:29:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03726; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:29:51 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <41256632.0039681D.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:29:12 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] html2ps problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Hi Jernej As far as I know is posix a module for scriptlanguages to interact with the unix platform. I guess there is no posix for win..... Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) jernej@4u.net on 29.06.98 08:04:06 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] html2ps problem hello, when converting html to postscript this perl script writes it can't find some posix module. i run perl from activeware on win nt 4, sp 3. what is the cause and what are remedies, if any? thanx in advance, Jernej 29-Jun-1998 12:44:07-GMT,1853;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06584 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:44:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08436; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:26:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:17:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08081; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:17:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:18:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Chris Ridd Subject: Re: [PDF] html2ps problem Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:04:06 +0200, Jernej Zajc wrote: > when converting html to postscript this perl script writes it can't find > some posix module. i run perl from activeware on win nt 4, sp 3. what is > the cause and what are remedies, if any? > > thanx in advance, > > Jernej Not a clue, as you haven't told us what modules it can't find and if those modules are actually there or not. It sounds as though your Perl installation is incomplete and/or old; you could fix both of these problems by grabbing the latest Perl sources and compiling them. Chris 29-Jun-1998 13:27:21-GMT,2330;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07347 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:27:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10301; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:10:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:04:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10063; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:04:50 -0500 Message-ID: <359758AA.8F045807@nycap.rr.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:04:34 +0000 From: David Doonan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf list Subject: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' at http://www.pdfzone.com ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am taking a supplied PDF file distilled in 3.0 and adding internal hotlinks, as well as links to web pages and mailto commands. The internal links and the mailto commands are working, but I am seeing a problem with the URL's. Clicking on one will launch my browser (netscape 4.04) and bring me to the correct page, but the browser remains hidden behind the acrobat display. After a minute an error message appears that states that the browser failed to respond within one minute and the command is being cancelled. The browser is responding to the command. This message appears even when I hide acrobat and bring netscape to the front, and start scrolling around the web page. Any ideas? -- David Doonan ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com http://home.nycap.rr.com/dadoonans/ http://members.tripod.com/~greenwichptsa IP 204.210.176.42 Positively Main Street web design Greenwich, New York . . . The best small town in the world! 29-Jun-1998 14:50:53-GMT,2915;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09036 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:50:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13668; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:32:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:28:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13456; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:28:43 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256632.00501240.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:36:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Can't help with your problem - But, a request of my own - I've added URL's, but hope someone can tell me how to add mailto commands to a PDF document. Thanks, SueG David Doonan on 06/29/98 02:04:34 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf list cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" I am taking a supplied PDF file distilled in 3.0 and adding internal hotlinks, as well as links to web pages and mailto commands. The internal links and the mailto commands are working, but I am seeing a problem with the URL's. Clicking on one will launch my browser (netscape 4.04) and bring me to the correct page, but the browser remains hidden behind the acrobat display. After a minute an error message appears that states that the browser failed to respond within one minute and the command is being cancelled. The browser is responding to the command. This message appears even when I hide acrobat and bring netscape to the front, and start scrolling around the web page. Any ideas? -- David Doonan ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com http://home.nycap.rr.com/dadoonans/ http://members.tripod.com/~greenwichptsa IP 204.210.176.42 Positively Main Street web design Greenwich, New York . . . The best small town in the world! ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" -------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jun-1998 14:51:36-GMT,4020;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09078 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:51:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13335; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:25:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:20:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13114; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:20:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:21:31 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Many thanks to those who took a few minutes to reply to our recent survey seeking your input on changes & additions you'd like to see in The PDFzone. As mentioned previously, for the next few months our Web site will be in the midst of a Re-Construction Season of sorts. We're expanding The PDFzone to better serve the Acrobat/PDF community. Many of the enhancements and additions will be based directly on the feedback you have provided -- and we still welcome any additional comments at: http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html ALSO: the recently modified "header" field on PDF list messages was a *temporary* change intended only to draw attention to this survey for a couple weeks. Just back from vacation, I've now changed it back to a message "footer." Sorry for any inconvenience that may have caused for some subscribers, especially those whose email programs got confused by the header. That's not to say that in the future we won't periodically use a similar message header to draw attention to other short-term topics, sponsors, etc. We'll do our best to minimize any complications. As always, please feel free to let us know if/when you experience any related problems. ***** A couple things worth mentioning, based in part on this recent experiment: * People should REMOVE automatically generated taglines -- headers OR footers -- when they reply to the list address. Otherwise, they multiply each time one fails to delete that text. * People also should DELETE the bulk of the previous message(s) to which they are replying, keeping ONLY enough detail to provide context for their reply. * Constructive criticism about PDF list management should in MOST cases be sent DIRECTLY to the listowner () rather than to all 1700+ subscribers. As evidenced in the recent "Stop the Header" thread, many offer nothing beyond a "Me, too" or "Here, here" comment, hardly worthy of widespread distribution. ***** We look forward to hearing from many of you as the Re-Construction continues. Rgds ~ Kurt ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- "Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * PDF lists: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html * PDFzone EXTRA: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars -30- ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" -------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jun-1998 16:19:16-GMT,2397;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11070 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:19:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17671; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:00:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:55:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17441; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:55:46 -0500 Message-ID: <005101bda376$68d37980$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:55:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kurt, Thanks for getting rid of the PDF list header. A side comment on your e-mail about future headers. Emerge has done a great job in sponsoring and maintaining this list. The rules of the list concerning advertisement are pretty well followed. The past list header seemed a little self-serving and I worry about your comment concerning future headers, particularly the part about sponsors. Considering that this is your list, you can do whatever you like, but for my part I would appreciate no future headers and no advertisements or sponsor announcements. Thanks and keep up the good work. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com but it would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read it. Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see comments from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its subscribers. ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" -------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jun-1998 17:34:40-GMT,5867;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12779 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:34:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21403; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:15:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:09:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21015; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:09:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <005101bda376$68d37980$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:10:14 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Chris et al, Since your reply went to ALL list subscribers, it's best -- but not my preference -- to reply in kind this one time. I'd really rather NOT see a prolonged thread over something seemingly trivial like message headers and footers. For the sake of the majority of list subscribers who, I'd wager, don't find this a compelling topic, I'd prefer additional comments be sent directly to me. I'll be glad to post a summary of *private* replies on this topic rather than have it become a sideshow and a distraction on the list. That said, *if* anyone believes this *is* worthy of some (brief!) public dialogue, we're not in the habit of stifling relevant discussion on the various PDFzone lists. However, for the sake of all subscribers, please post a public reply ONLY if you have something constructive to add, NOT just to say -- more or less -- "Me, too!" Now, on to my response; apologies in advance for the length of this one-time-only (I hope!) reply: We much appreciate your kind words about our list management & sponsorship. We've made it a priority to maintain these lists as commercial-free watering holes, which includes us not blatantly abusing the lists (and list subcribers) with our own sales-oriented pitches. We've taken numerous steps to keep would-be spammers from gaining access to our subscriber lists and to the lists themselves. It's always nice to hear that these efforts are appreciated by the Acrobat/PDF community. As to possible future uses of footers, headers, etc, we're well aware that this can become a source of dissatisfaction for some subscribers. Accordingly, we've tried since launching our first email discussion in 1995 to be prudent and respectful about our use of such text-based taglines. At the same time, as our growing resources (lists, newsletters, forums, etc) are made available at no cost to users -- yet at *our* continued expense -- we believe most subscribers are willing to tolerate some degree of sponsorship recognition as a trade-off. Likewise, I'm sure most would agree that the Internet has changed considerably in its commercial orientation since we launched the original PDF list. To date, we've not made any efforts to capitalize financially on our lists, newsletter or Web site. At the same time, we *do* believe the time is at hand to at least explore some of the possibilities, such as offering short-term sponsorship opportunities to others who might be interested in reaching pdf-savvy folks. As a subscriber to dozens of other lists and newsletters, I know that some of the better ones are able to do what they do *because* they now accept relevant, timely ads or sponsors. We're lookinto into ways we might offset some of our own costs. That *may* include banner ads within The PDFzone, email list and newsletter sponsorships and/or ads (text and/or Web-based) and so forth. Like many others, we're merely exploring possible options, while also seeking input from subscribers and visitors. I *can* assure you that no actions will be taken or strategies implemented without sincere consideration of the opinions of users -- your feedback has always been a key factor in the sorts of resources and services we offer as part of The PDFzone. As you rightly state, any list is only as good as the people who frequent it -- and we believe our subscribers are among the best & brightest in the Acrobat/pdf world. Finally, the reality is that list management, when taken seriously and done professionally, requires not inconsiderable time & expense. We're only evaluating some ways we can continue to offer what we trust are valuable resources while also spreading out some of the related costs we incur in doing so. If you have other suggestions how we might find the proper balance while respecting the wishes of subscribers, we'd love to hear them! Until then -- that's my story & I'm sticking to it! ;-} Thanks for your attention. rgds ~ Kurt === At 10:55 AM -0500 6/29/98, Chris Lane wrote: Kurt, Thanks for getting rid of the PDF list header. A side comment on your e-mail about future headers. Emerge has done a great job in sponsoring and maintaining this list. The rules of the list concerning advertisement are pretty well followed. The past list header seemed a little self-serving and I worry about your comment concerning future headers, particularly the part about sponsors. Considering that this is your list, you can do whatever you like, but for my part I would appreciate no future headers and no advertisements or sponsor announcements. Thanks and keep up the good work. == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------------------------------------------------------ 29-Jun-1998 17:38:51-GMT,1275;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12924 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:38:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21539; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:17:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:12:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21205; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:12:12 -0500 From: RobertB425@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:11:53 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com I agree about the nuisance of the header. Bob == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------------------------------------------------------ 29-Jun-1998 17:54:31-GMT,2750;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13269 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:54:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22295; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:34:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:28:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21966; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:28:47 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:28:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bda383$65a07620$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <005101bda376$68d37980$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com > I worry about your comment concerning future headers, > particularly the part > about sponsors. Considering that this is your list, you can do > whatever you > like, but for my part I would appreciate no future headers and no > advertisements or sponsor announcements. So what's in it for Emerge. From a commercial perspective I am surprised that they haven't sought outside sponsors to date. All free web sites which contain useful information have adverts which cost considerably more to download than a three line header. We continue (or at least I do) to use these sites because the information they provide is very useful and it is free. Whether we like it or not the Web is now a commercial environment and the normal rules of free enterprise will govern. If the list is useful then it will attract promotion. If everyone leaves because of promotion it will cease to attract promotion and thus die. C'est la Vie! drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------------------------------------------------------ 29-Jun-1998 18:02:55-GMT,4264;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13482 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:02:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22877; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:47:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:43:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22650; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:43:21 -0500 Message-Id: <9806291742.AB12760@atla3> Subject: [PDF] header/footer - I vote header Date: Mon, 29 Jun 98 13:49:49 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: , "Kurt Foss" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com >P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com but it >would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read it. >Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see comments >from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its >subscribers. Okay, this is NOT a slam to Chris Lane - but since he asked for comments, well, here is mine. This is from a Vendors perspective. At Agfa, we offer a service and products - one is our push technology web site that offers the browser to fill out a survey and whenthey submit, the site processes the answers and generates a PDF file that is a brochure - this brocure contains images and configurations of Agfa products that (judging from how you fill out the survey) you should look into aquiring. - we even snail - mail you a printed copy of this PDF printed using the Agfa ChromaPress. if you are interested in seeing this in action, go to: www.digitalroadmaps.com And build yourself one. Trust me, it has Agfas logos and messaging all over the thing. We built the system. We paid for its development. It is our service to anyone whom visits. it has the web address all over it as well - SO - about the banner - I copy / paste a LOT of information and forward the amazing and crystal clear solutions, options, opinions and wisdom from this forum, from ALL OF YOU OUT THERE - THANKS!!! - and (when it was at the bottom) had to type a little ditty about where I came by this information. I always left the banner on it - but when it was at the bottom, a lot of people NEVER read where I got it (as they simply thought it was part of my signature file) and would email me, "how can I get on a list"? So I had to waste time telling them to read the bottom - so I like it at the top. I ALSO happen to respect that the PDF zone is offering a free service to us, that it is quite helpful, and possibly people may react and go to their site more often (and by services from them) if they new where such cool stuff came from - if anyone should be able to advertize for free, and select where that Ad should appear, well, far be it from Agfa to tell them. So, go boy. I liked it at the top, didn't mind it at the top, and if it were my site, I tell all who didn't like it quit and build your own. The opinions express are not necessarily the same as Agfa's - but frankly, it should not be necessary for me to even have an opinion here. Are you all willing to send Emerge a check for paying for the monthly pipe cost help offset the cost of the hardrives and CPUs use to support this list? Hey, they can write whatever they want wherever they want, IMHO. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------------------------------------------------------ 29-Jun-1998 18:06:10-GMT,2319;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13594 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:06:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20041; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:47:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:43:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19706; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:42:59 -0500 Message-ID: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073F94BFC@exchptc1.switch.com> From: "Huston, Virgil H." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:42:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Hey all, Since the question has been opened up....:-) One thing we need to remember is that this list is a free service provided by pdfzone. It takes time and money to run it. Virtually every list I am on has advertising of one kind or another. Looking at an advertisement is a small price to pay for what I get out of this list. You are correst that a list is only as strong as its subscribers, but that assumes someone provides the time and money to run it. Kurt, keep up the good work and thanks. Virgil > P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > but it > would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read > it. > Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see > comments > from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its > subscribers. > > > > > ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > -------------------------------------------------------------- == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------------------------------------------------------ 29-Jun-1998 18:52:12-GMT,3472;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14889 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:52:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25097; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:31:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:26:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24765; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:26:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3597DD0E.90F2A3F0@empa.ch> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:29:43 +0200 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PS thru virtual printer on Mac References: <1313417493-62347289@mail.inpractice.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com dennis, But all your printer or paper settings to portrait even if the document is landscape. Like that it should work. Erwin Dennis Walker wrote: > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > This question may only have an esoteric appeal, but I'm hoping not. > > I'm am trying to automate the process of printing a report to disk from > FileMake Pro 4 to a watched folder for auto-Distilling to PDF. This is to > automatically update a time sensitive report that is made available on > our website. > > As a part of this strategy, I used the Desktop Printer Utility to create > a virtual printer of type "Translator (PostScript)", which automatically > writes to disk instead of to a printer. I selected the "Acrobat Distiller > (PPD)" as the PPD choice. > > The problem I'm having is that the postscript file that is produced does > not distill to what I expect. The orientation is portrait instead of > landscape (how it is printed), and who knows what else is different. If I > were to print the report manually using Laserwriter 8.5.1 and manually > selecting "File" for the destination, then it distills fine as expected. > > I also tried a virtual printer of type "Printer (no printer connection)", > but this produced a proprietary file (instead of ps) which could not be > Distilled. > > I guess I'm asking if anyone has gotten the virtual printers to work > correctly when printing ps for Distilling. What could I be doing wrong? > Maybe I need to hack the Acrobat Distiller PPD a little so it doesn't > change the original page setup/print dialog settings. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net > EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 > InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------------------------------------------------------ 29-Jun-1998 18:52:55-GMT,2700;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14952 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:52:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25426; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:37:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:33:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25177; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:33:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980627125827.007d8100@mail.tim.se> X-Sender: tim-jl@mail.tim.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:58:27 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "johan.leide" Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Embedded TT Problem In-Reply-To: <199806261355.JAA17782@wacky.total.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com If you use Callas PDF toolbox:PDF toolbox the embedded truetype font is included in the eps file. I newer had a problem with it. > >I would suggest you to output that PDF file directly using Crakerjack >plug-in. > >>I am having a problem printing embedded TrueType subsetted fonts to our >>imagesetters (SyTex, Agfa, PantherPro). I receive Quark documents with >>advertisements that are placed EPS files. The original files are PDF's, >>however Quark will not allow direct placement of PDF's. The PDF ad is >>"Exported" in Exchange then placed in Quark. When I examine the file all >>fonts are subsetted, all but one are Type 1 embedded. The problem font >>(Helvetica) is TrueType and also embedded. I can print the PDF file fine to >>all our output devices, however after an EPS is made the RIP's can no >>longer find the font and it prints as Courier. >> >>Why can I print the file OK when in Exchange, but not out of Quark? >> >>How and what do I fix so these jobs print? >> >>I have contacted Adobe, SciTex, and Agfa several times, but no one has a >>clue. In addition I've conducted many tests to no avail. Can anyone help? >> >>Thanks! >> >>George Spiese >>Corporate Macintosh Analyst >>The Mack Printing Group >>gspiese@mpg.com >> >> >> > > >< ed > > > Johan Leide Teknik i Media 040-97 33 10 0706-72 00 35 Http://www.tim.se johan.leide@tim.se == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------------------------------------------------------ 29-Jun-1998 21:00:24-GMT,3182;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20562 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:00:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31779; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:40:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:36:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31465; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:36:25 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA37A.6030F240.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic Updating of altered PDF pages in a PDF document Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:24:19 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Check out Alliant Techs PDF Suite of products, Doc Depot, Doc Library, Link Manager, etc. I believe one of these will meet your needs. Kevin Wagner Operations Manager Ridgway's Imaging Kwagner@ridgways.com -----Original Message----- From: Christian Gaspar [SMTP:cgaspar@cgxpress.com] Sent: Friday, June 26, 1998 12:42 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Automatic Updating of altered PDF pages in a PDF document ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- To Sub/Unsub: ------------------------------------------------------------ The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" Does anyone know of any available tools for automatically updating a PDF page within a file (and similarly updating its corresponding bookmarks/links/index)? Using Capture, I'm trying to build a Revision Update Process so that revised pages with a specific "tag" can replace automatically an older version of the page in an otherwise unchanged PDF document. I realize that it can be done manually but for a COLD application covering tens of thousands of pages, there must be an easier way, or a commercial tool, that can effectively "manage" this library of PDF. I'm also aware of dynamic PDF but this would be a scanned product therefore it would not be continuously published. Finally, and related to the above in general, I have not been able to find anything on the internet search engines or Adobe's web site (bless their heart) about Acrobat 3 much-touted "Updateable PDF" feature. What does it mean? How do you use it? What is it for? Can anyone explain or direct me??? Thanks, in advance, for any clues Christian == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------------------------------------------------------ 29-Jun-1998 22:29:34-GMT,1709;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22887 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:29:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02791; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:01:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:57:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02610; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:57:09 -0500 Message-ID: <19980629215655.13316.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [207.218.145.62] From: "Sacha Cohen" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Question: the future of PDF Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:56:55 PDT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Hello PDF-ers: I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the future of PDF. There's this conference coming up on July 21-24 called INET in Geneva and I think they may be discussing standards and the future of various formats there. There's one session called "The Future of Killer Apps." Ya think PDF will be mentioned? Is anyone planning to go to this? Let me know if you are! Cheers, Sacha ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------------------------------------------------------ 29-Jun-1998 23:55:59-GMT,1775;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24709 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:55:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06614; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:33:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:28:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06398; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:28:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199806292327.QAA27985@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:29:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Question: the future of PDF From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com >Hello PDF-ers: >I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the future of PDF. My discourse on this subject can be found in the section called "Universal Publishing" on my website (URL below). Use as you see fit. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------------------------------------------------------ 30-Jun-1998 0:22:05-GMT,2702;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25160 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:22:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07714; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:05:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:00:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07436; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:00:00 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <359758AA.8F045807@nycap.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:00:10 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? Cc: David Doonan Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com David, I just did some testing as well, and I did get the same effect with Mac Netscape Navigator 4.05. OK, the PDF to be downloaded in the browser window was pretty big (420 kB), and it did take longer than a minute to get it in. Despite the message, the file was transferred and displayed properly. It looks as if this message means that Exchange/Reader gives the browser one minute to do its work and to confirm the transfer. It could be that the confirmation does not come through. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Clicking on one will launch my browser (netscape >4.04) and bring me to the correct page, but the >browser remains hidden behind the acrobat display. >After a minute an error message appears that >states that the browser failed to respond within >one minute and the command is being cancelled. The >browser is responding to the command. This message >appears even when I hide acrobat and bring >netscape to the front, and start scrolling around >the web page. > >Any ideas? >-- >David Doonan == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" ------------------------------------------------------ 30-Jun-1998 6:20:54-GMT,6820;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA02031 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:20:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19001; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:59:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:55:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18798; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:55:04 -0500 Message-ID: <35987F39.8898AA93@tsi-net.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:01:29 -0700 From: Russell Hansberry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] header/footer - I vote header References: <9806291742.AB12760@atla3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Michael, I can see your point. Having the advertising in the header is a convenience for you. Then if you forward the message, the recipient is more likely to see where the message comes from because it is in the header rather than in the footer. By contrast, everyone in the list gets all the messages in the list and only a few are forwarded. They are more likely to see this message 20 or more times a day. Once would be sufficient. The repetition only serves to get in the way of accessing the desired information content. It does not reinforce the message but rather it annoys the reader. It is much like the 10th time your dinner is interrupted to to hear the same telephone solicitation message. The results for the composer of the message are not intended results. We all have limited resources to devote to forums such as this one. How much of that can be devoted to useful dialog depends in part to how efficiently we can send and receive information. If any significant portion of the bandwidth between the user and his/her computer is consumed for unproductive purposes, less can be accomplished with what remains. This problem is compounded when the user is forced or tricked into spending extra time doing non-productive activities. For example, if the advertising message is in the header and causes the user to scroll to see more content before deciding to ignore the message, that reduces the utility of the forum. If a line is drawn to separate the header (or footer) from the desired information and then the header or footer is spread into the main body of the information area, the header is read when the user is trying to read the information area and the utility of the forum is reduced. In my opinion, we need more efficiency in our work, not less. In most cases, moving advertising from the header to the footer significantly improves efficiency. Moving it to a separate message altogether would be even better. Then you can see it once a day instead of 20 times a day and the message matches the subject so you receive it in context instead of having to switch mental gears. This is just my opinion, your mileage may vary. Russell Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com mjahn wrote: > > >P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com but it > >would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read it. > >Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see comments > >from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its > >subscribers. > > Okay, this is NOT a slam to Chris Lane - but since he asked for comments, > well, here is mine. > > This is from a Vendors perspective. At Agfa, we offer a service and > products - one is our push technology web site that offers the browser to > fill out a survey and whenthey submit, the site processes the answers and > generates a PDF file that is a brochure - this brocure contains images > and configurations of Agfa products that (judging from how you fill out > the survey) you should look into aquiring. - we even snail - mail you a > printed copy of this PDF printed using the Agfa ChromaPress. > > if you are interested in seeing this in action, go to: > > www.digitalroadmaps.com > > And build yourself one. > > Trust me, it has Agfas logos and messaging all over the thing. We built > the system. We paid for its development. It is our service to anyone whom > visits. it has the web address all over it as well - > > SO - about the banner - I copy / paste a LOT of information and forward > the amazing and crystal clear solutions, options, opinions and wisdom > from this forum, from ALL OF YOU OUT THERE - THANKS!!! - and (when it was > at the bottom) had to type a little ditty about where I came by this > information. > > I always left the banner on it - but when it was at the bottom, a lot of > people NEVER read where I got it (as they simply thought it was part of > my signature file) and would email me, "how can I get on a list"? So I > had to waste time telling them to read the bottom - so I like it at the > top. > > I ALSO happen to respect that the PDF zone is offering a free service to > us, that it is quite helpful, and possibly people may react and go to > their site more often (and by services from them) if they new where such > cool stuff came from - if anyone should be able to advertize for free, > and select where that Ad should appear, well, far be it from Agfa to tell > them. > > So, go boy. I liked it at the top, didn't mind it at the top, and if it > were my site, I tell all who didn't like it quit and build your own. > > The opinions express are not necessarily the same as Agfa's - but > frankly, it should not be necessary for me to even have an opinion here. > Are you all willing to send Emerge a check for paying for the monthly > pipe cost help offset the cost of the hardrives and CPUs use to support > this list? > > Hey, they can write whatever they want wherever they want, IMHO. > > Michael Jahn > PDF Evangelist > Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation > 200 Ballardvale Street > MS 200-4-5H > Wilmington, MASS > 01887-1069 > P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 > F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) > E: mikejahn@jahn.com > E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com > I: www.jahn.org > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > ------------------------------------------------------ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 13:55:35-GMT,2577;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11130 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:55:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31864; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:23:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:11:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31202; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:11:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:11:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: kingkern@mail.eclipse.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199806061305.IAA12367@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jim kramer Subject: [PDF] startup errors, exchange, macintosh Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com help, i did something dumb and i cant figure out how to fix it. this is a powerPC mac with system 8.1, plenty of memory. i shut off a bunch of extensions the other day. actually, i did an install of internet explorer 4.01 and then shut off whatever microsoft extensions i found with extensions manager. when i started ie4, it told me i needed "microsoft components library" so i turned that back on and everything worked fine. i dont remember turning anything else off. this is the only system-type thing i've done recently. now, when i start acrobat exchange i get these error messages as it loads the plug-ins: There was an error while loading the plug-in 'ImportPI'. There was a Macintosh system error (-2804) There was an error while loading the plug-in 'OCR'. There was a Macintosh system error (-2804) There was an error while loading the plug-in 'ScanPI'. There was a Macintosh system error (-2804) does anyone know if there is some essential extension i might have turned off that makes this happen? thanks in advance Jim Kramer ____________________________________________ The nation that controls magnetism will rule the universe. --Chester Gould -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 13:55:41-GMT,1845;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11134 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:55:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32598; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:29:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:24:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31975; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:24:47 -0500 Message-ID: <000501bda42a$a4095a60$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] Extended Graphics State named 'GS1' Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:26:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Sender: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-Sender: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com I used Coreldraw to create a pdf (via distiller) that is a color fill with a single image. I then used compose to make a TOC and then overlay (compose) to put the background that I made in Corel under the text. Now, when I open up the combined PDF (never had problems with the individuals), I get the error message "Could not find the Extended Graphics State named 'GS1'." any ideas? -Brett -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 16:03:09-GMT,1965;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13935 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:03:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06069; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:23:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:17:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05779; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:17:45 -0500 Message-ID: <002601bda43a$6c164860$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] index problems Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:19:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Ok, When attempting to open an index file over the network, I get the message that the index is unavailable. If I type in the full path name (i.e. //computer/blah/blah/index.pdx) while the browser is pointed at a local drive, it will open fine. If I browse to //computer/blah/blah/index.pdx and THEN type in the full path name, it tells me it's unavailable. Likewise, if I have a PDF (with an associated index) and I open that over the network, it does the same thing... Any ideas? -Brett _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 16:07:30-GMT,2271;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14003 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07194; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:46:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:42:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06985; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:42:56 -0500 Message-Id: <9806301530.AA02043@atla3> Subject: [PDF] INET? Date: Tue, 30 Jun 98 11:37:28 -0000 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com >Hello PDF-ers: >I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the future of PDF. I think PDF has no future whatsoever - t will all be OPI comments printing to animated gif files in XML tagged MicroSoft Publisher documents. heehee. > There's >this conference coming up on July 21-24 called INET in Geneva and I >think they may be discussing standards and the future of various formats >there. There's one session called "The Future of Killer Apps." Ya think >PDF will be mentioned? naw. it is Geneva. We all know that you should never visit a City Font. > Is anyone planning to go to this? Searched for it - can't find anything but some wireless company. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation 200 Ballardvale Street MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MASS 01887-1069 P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) E: mikejahn@jahn.com E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com I: www.jahn.org _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 16:43:17-GMT,2383;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14808 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:43:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08503; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:14:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:09:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08264; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:09:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] index problems Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:10:25 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Brett, I had the same problem. I found that if I mapped the network drive from my local station, then it would seem to work just fine. The only problem with that is, if you associate an index with a pdf file and multiple users will be accessing those files, all users must map to the same drive letter. Hope this helps. Randy Johnston State of the Art, Inc. 56 Technology Irvine, Ca. 92718 1 800/854-3415 ext 4380 Ok, When attempting to open an index file over the network, I get the message that the index is unavailable. If I type in the full path name (i.e. //computer/blah/blah/index.pdx) while the browser is pointed at a local drive, it will open fine. If I browse to //computer/blah/blah/index.pdx and THEN type in the full path name, it tells me it's unavailable. Likewise, if I have a PDF (with an associated index) and I open that over the network, it does the same thing... Any ideas? -Brett _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 16:43:17-GMT,1911;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14809 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:43:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08618; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:16:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:12:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08400; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:12:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199806301612.LAA08393@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] startup errors, exchange, macintosh Date: Tue, 30 Jun 98 12:12:08 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com [jim kramer wrote on 6/30/98 9:11 AM] > There was an error while loading the plug-in > 'ScanPI'. There was a Macintosh system error > (-2804) > >does anyone know if there is some essential extension i might have turned >off that makes this happen? > Jim, -2804 is a Code Fragment Manager error stating that the named library was not found. I suggest you re-enable the extensions you disabled. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 16:46:45-GMT,2022;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14891 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:46:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09103; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:28:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:24:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08929; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:24:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] index problems Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:16:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bda443$6fc6b720$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002601bda43a$6c164860$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com > When attempting to open an index file over the network, I get > the message > that the index is unavailable. > > If I type in the full path name (i.e. > //computer/blah/blah/index.pdx) while > the browser is pointed at a local drive, it will open fine. > > If I browse to //computer/blah/blah/index.pdx and THEN type > in the full path > name, it tells me it's unavailable. I thought I read somewhere that indexes only work to mapped drives. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 19:14:40-GMT,2967;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18555 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:14:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15950; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:57:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:54:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15817; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:54:41 -0500 X-Sender: bblevins@mail.nilenet.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199806061305.IAA12367@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:55:03 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Brett Blevins Subject: [PDF] Solution to Exchange startup errors on Macintosh Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Regarding Jim Kramer's message: >help, i did something dumb and i cant figure out how to fix it. >this is a powerPC mac with system 8.1, plenty of memory. >.... >now, when i start acrobat exchange i get these error messages as it loads... > > There was an error while loading the plug-in > 'ImportPI'. There was a Macintosh system error (-2804) > > There was an error while loading the plug-in > 'OCR'. There was a Macintosh system error (-2804) > > There was an error while loading the plug-in > 'ScanPI'. There was a Macintosh system error (-2804) > >does anyone know if there is some essential extension i might have turned >off that makes this happen? > >thanks in advance >Jim Kramer You've inadvertently turned off the Microsoft Extensions installed by Acrobat to support the Image Import and "Capture Light" plug-ins of Acrobat Exchange. They are: Microsoft C Runtime Library Microsoft Controls Library Microsoft Portability Library The code for the Import Image and Capture Light plug-ins evidently carry some baggage from their Windoze origins, and that baggage is located in these extensions. You won't be able to run the plug-ins without them. Too bad Adobe had to implement this with extensions, as they are used only by Acrobat Exchange and clutter up the system, as you've seen! Enjoy the fix, -Brett ------------------------------- Brett Blevins Claro Systems bblevins@clarosystems.com Denver, CO USA +1 303 369 3181 ------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 19:18:23-GMT,1980;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18664 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:18:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16107; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:00:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:58:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15976; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:58:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3599515E.D4D745AE@arrakis.es> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:58:06 +0000 From: "Mariano =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bailly=2DBailli=E8re?=" Organization: enlace. =?iso-8859-1?Q?comunicaci=F3n?= multimedia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [es] (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Fonts with capture References: <199806291217.HAA08098@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com I must recover some publications without their QuarkXPress' original files. So first I have scanned each page with the Exchange capture extension. The original font in documents is Novarese. I have it in my System Folder but Exchange substitutes it in the PDF by Times (Multiplemaster?). With the text tool (T) in Exchange I only can change Times in Novarese line per line. Is there any solution for revert the substitution font (Times) in the original one (Novarese)? Thanks. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 19:47:57-GMT,2903;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19305 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:47:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17877; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:32:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:29:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17687; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:29:52 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA43A.3663A3C0.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts with capture Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:17:34 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com The easiest way to do this would be to use the full version of Acrobat Capture not the exchange version of it. It will allow you to review the documents ( the ACD file) in a editor mode ( Acrobat reviewer) and you can do a select all and change the font. Exchange is not really designed for a volume environment so, not only will this make you font issue easier it should make the whole conversion process quicker, and easier. Not to mention quicker and simpler to edit the ocr inaccuracies. Kevin Wagner Operations Manager Ridgway's Imaging Kwagner@ridgways.com -----Original Message----- From: Mariano Bailly-Bailliere [SMTP:mbb@arrakis.es] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 4:58 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Fonts with capture I must recover some publications without their QuarkXPress' original files. So first I have scanned each page with the Exchange capture extension. The original font in documents is Novarese. I have it in my System Folder but Exchange substitutes it in the PDF by Times (Multiplemaster?). With the text tool (T) in Exchange I only can change Times in Novarese line per line. Is there any solution for revert the substitution font (Times) in the original one (Novarese)? Thanks. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 19:49:38-GMT,1951;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19355 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:49:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18109; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:38:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:35:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17985; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:35:56 -0500 Message-ID: <8D98F19E9EBAD1118D3900A0C96CC00E6CB656@nnse8.nns.com> From: "Nosil, Chris" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Determining if Acrobat Reader is installed. Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:34:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com I am developing a product that will display a list of PDF files. When the user selects a file, I want to launch Acrobat reader and the PDF file. AS the subject line indicates, the question I have is how can I determine if Acrobat reader has been installed and what version has been installed. I will need to do this for Windows 3.1x, 95 and NT platforms. It is not acceptable to assume it has been installed to the default location (acrobat3\reader) or to just install the software every time I want to view a file. Code samples would be great. Thanks in advance....... _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 20:07:12-GMT,2493;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19756 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:07:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18962; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:56:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:54:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18835; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:54:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Determining if Acrobat Reader is installed. Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:55:13 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Checkout www.fileopen.com. > -----Original Message----- > From: Nosil, Chris [SMTP:nosil_cj@nns.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 12:35 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Determining if Acrobat Reader is installed. > > I am developing a product that will display a list of PDF files. When > the > user selects a file, I want to launch Acrobat reader and the PDF file. > AS > the subject line indicates, the question I have is how can I determine > if > Acrobat reader has been installed and what version has been installed. > I > will need to do this for Windows 3.1x, 95 and NT platforms. It is not > acceptable to assume it has been installed to the default location > (acrobat3\reader) or to just install the software every time I want to > view > a file. Code samples would be great. Thanks in advance....... > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 20:29:22-GMT,3434;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20273 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:29:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19966; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:12:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:10:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19788; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:10:00 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980630201025.00d4df64@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:10:25 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Determining if Acrobat Reader is installed. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com When Acrobat is installed correctly (i.e., using the mandatory Adobe-supplied installer), there is no need for you to know where it's installed. Just double-clicking on any PDF file will automatically start the Reader. If you need to check the version of Acrobat, you will need to examine the Windows Registry. The details of this vary quite a bit between different versions of the Reader and versions of Windows -- it's not a trivial task! And, of course, if you want to be truly cross-platform, you will need to do the corresponding stuff for Mac and several variants of Unix. The easier route is to simply notify your user that they *must* have Acrobat 3.01 installed (with Search if needed by your files). If the files are built so that they can't be read with Acrobat 2 (by using ZIP instead of LZH compression), your users will fail on their first attempt to open a file, so it should be fairly obvious that they've done something wrong. Be sure to include the installers for Acrobat Reader with Search for Win16, Win32, Mac, and Unix on your CD, along with appropriate guidance in your README, and you should be OK. Good luck. Tom Thiersch At 03:34 PM 6/30/98 -0400, you wrote: >I am developing a product that will display a list of PDF files. When the >user selects a file, I want to launch Acrobat reader and the PDF file. AS >the subject line indicates, the question I have is how can I determine if >Acrobat reader has been installed and what version has been installed. I >will need to do this for Windows 3.1x, 95 and NT platforms. It is not >acceptable to assume it has been installed to the default location >(acrobat3\reader) or to just install the software every time I want to view >a file. Code samples would be great. Thanks in advance....... > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 20:31:07-GMT,2721;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20337 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:31:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20432; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:20:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:17:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20260; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:17:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Determining if Acrobat Reader is installed. Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:18:22 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com With Win 95 and Win NT you can look in the registry under: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\AcroRd32 This will get you the Path, Now that you have the Path, you can go out to that directory to confirm the file AcroRd32.exe exist. With Win 3.1x I believe that you will need to look in the win.ini file for [Acrobat] and grab the path from there. Not sure if the section is called Acrobat, but you can find it in any win.ini file on a Win 3.1x machine to confirm the section. Hope this helps. Thank you, Randy Johnston State of the Art, Inc. 56 Technology Irvine, Ca. 92718 1 800/854-3415 ext 4380 I am developing a product that will display a list of PDF files. When the user selects a file, I want to launch Acrobat reader and the PDF file. AS the subject line indicates, the question I have is how can I determine if Acrobat reader has been installed and what version has been installed. I will need to do this for Windows 3.1x, 95 and NT platforms. It is not acceptable to assume it has been installed to the default location (acrobat3\reader) or to just install the software every time I want to view a file. Code samples would be great. Thanks in advance....... _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 20:41:48-GMT,5842;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20607 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:41:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20892; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:31:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:28:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20738; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:28:28 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256633.0070F831.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:36:52 -0700 Subject: [PDF] A landscape/page rotation/Capture question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com A coworker asked this question of me and I've forwarded it to the Capture list. But, I thought maybe someone here might be able to offer some insight - I hope so, this is so confusing to me, too! "This is a quiet but somewhat desperate cry for help. I'll try to be as concise as I can be on the problem that I have encountered but there are many twists and turns to cover. I don't know if you have a solution or if you might have access to some technical support at Adobe that might be able to help out. Here goes..... When we convert our special SAS files from PCL to TIFF via PCLTool, the conversion is flawless. When I import the TIFF image into Adobe Exchange the resulting "picture" and saved PDF files are also flawless. The problem occurs when I do a "document capture page" on a landscape document (and only on landscape documents). About 5% of the time the capture process fails. During the Capture Page process, there is a step where Adobe Exchange does a "Perceiving Page Structure". Most of the time, the page structure is correctly perceived as being landscape and Adobe Exchange rotates the page (as indicated in the thumbnail picture in the capture panel and the final page orientation) and the process continues correctly. Sometimes however the page structure is not correctly identified as being landscape. The page is not rotated and the text capture proceeds across the page as though it is portrait. Needless to say, this results in no intelligent words being captured. There are several "fixes" that I have tried, but to date none are 100% effective. I manually have Adobe Exchange "Document Rotate" the page prior to doing the Document Capture. I can do this rather than let Adobe Exchange try to perceive and rotate the page automatically during the text capture process. This would seem to be an ideal solution. But when I do this, the Document Capture Page process balks with the error message "The page is rotated. It cannot be captured". Question 1) Why won't Adobe Exchange let me rotate the page? It does the same rotate itself. I have complete control over the text that I produce. I have found that if I place a very small period in the upper left and/or upper right of the rotated page, that this often helps Adobe Exchange correctly perceive the page layout. This too is an acceptable solution since the small dots are almost invisible and are tucked away in the "binding area" of the page. The problem with this solution is that it is not repeatable across different landscaped text layouts that we produce. On some page layouts that fail recognition,, the solution is to add one or the other of the dots or sometimes both of the dots. Sometimes the document fails with both dots, but works OK with only one of the dots. Question 2) Just what is the "Perceiving Page Structure" process that Adobe uses and can I better convince the process that I have a landscaped document? I can rotate the page prior to invoking Adobe Exchange using a tool such as "Imaging for Windows 95 V1.0" developed for Microsoft by WANG which comes free with the current version of Windows 95. This conversion on the TIFF file does completely fix the page capture problem later when the page gets to Adobe, Unfortunately "Imaging" offsets the resulting page 1/4 inch in both the x and y directions. I can go back to step one (PCLTool conversion) and "pre-offset" the page in the opposite direction, but this process starts to get very labor intensive since I don't find out until the end of the process that I need to go back to step one and invoke this action. Also if I "pre-offset" the document, the unrotated TIFF file itself cannot be correctly printed because it is now offset. Question 3) Is there some other tool that will "rotate" the TIFF page without offsetting the results? I don't have access to one. Of the above three questions, I only need the answer to one of them and I then have a solution. I really prefer #2 since I can then insure that the text capture process will always work correctly and requires no manual intervention or monitoring. Also all of the three versions of the file (PCL, TIFF and PDF) print correctly. If I can find out how the perception process that Adobe uses works, this would be ideal. I just don't know where to look for this answer. Thanks in advance for any help, assistance or guidance you can provide" _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 20:55:41-GMT,1862;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20962 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:55:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21548; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:45:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:42:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21371; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:42:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980630164444.00954c30@mailman.epnet.com> X-Sender: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:44:45 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com (Andrew Lindsay) Subject: [PDF] Changing Number and name of Doc Info fields Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Is there a way to change the number of document info fields -- like to add two or three more? Is there a way to change the name of the four default doc info fields? I seem to remember some sort of PDFmark way of doing it, but is there a way to do this with PDF Image Only PDFs, not just distilled PDFs? Plug-ins? Command line/batch mode? Andrew Lindsay Technical Manager - Electronic Publishing EBSCO Publishing Ipswich, MA 01938 (978) 356-6500 x268 _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 21:51:56-GMT,2493;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22345 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:51:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23989; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:34:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:30:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23827; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:30:45 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Determining if Acrobat Reader is installed. Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:11:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bda46e$3337e1a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <8D98F19E9EBAD1118D3900A0C96CC00E6CB656@nnse8.nns.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com You should use the ShellExecute API call to open the PDF file. That will take care of where the Reader is installed to and the command line, and what to do if it is already running etc. Certain error codes will hint that Acrobat is not installed, or at least not installed properly. Aandi > I am developing a product that will display a list of PDF > files. When the > user selects a file, I want to launch Acrobat reader and the > PDF file. AS > the subject line indicates, the question I have is how can I > determine if > Acrobat reader has been installed and what version has been > installed. I > will need to do this for Windows 3.1x, 95 and NT platforms. It is not > acceptable to assume it has been installed to the default location > (acrobat3\reader) or to just install the software every time > I want to view > a file. Code samples would be great. Thanks in advance....... _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 22:22:31-GMT,3021;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23012 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:22:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25587; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:08:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:04:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25376; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:04:04 -0500 Message-ID: <097701bda472$40c7e0f0$c5a758c1@uspc7.stibo.com> From: "Ward Cannon" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Determining if Acrobat Reader is installed. Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:58:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com ShellExecute has a bug in it by the way. See this page http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q172/9/82.asp -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 5:44 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Determining if Acrobat Reader is installed. >You should use the ShellExecute API call to open the PDF >file. That will take care of where the Reader is installed >to and the command line, and what to do if it is already >running etc. > >Certain error codes will hint that Acrobat is not installed, >or at least not installed properly. > >Aandi > >> I am developing a product that will display a list of PDF >> files. When the >> user selects a file, I want to launch Acrobat reader and the >> PDF file. AS >> the subject line indicates, the question I have is how can I >> determine if >> Acrobat reader has been installed and what version has been >> installed. I >> will need to do this for Windows 3.1x, 95 and NT platforms. It is not >> acceptable to assume it has been installed to the default location >> (acrobat3\reader) or to just install the software every time >> I want to view >> a file. Code samples would be great. Thanks in advance....... > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 22:30:04-GMT,2339;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23265 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:30:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26164; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:19:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:14:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25876; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:14:41 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing Number and name of Doc Info fields Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:03:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bda474$55a23fa0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980630164444.00954c30@mailman.epnet.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com > Is there a way to change the number of document info fields > -- like to add > two or three more? Is there a way to change the name of the > four default > doc info fields? I seem to remember some sort of PDFmark way > of doing it, > but is there a way to do this with PDF Image Only PDFs, not > just distilled > PDFs? Plug-ins? Command line/batch mode? Using a plug-in or PDFMarks you can support additional document info fields. You cannot change the behaviour of Document Info, you would need an additional menu item provided by the plug-in. Names added to PDF files should be registered with Adobe - they will give you a four character prefix and all your field names should start with it (though this need not appear on screen). Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 22:30:34-GMT,41357;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23269 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:30:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25856; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:14:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:10:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25667; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:10:44 -0500 Message-ID: <4BC88098C5DDCF11A5E40000F8014BA7014F8952@mshmshois1p.mss.tva.gov> From: "Norman, James Dan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for June-30-98 [V2 #257] Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:10:38 -0400 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com This address does not work listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > ---------- > From: > owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com[SMTP:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 8:11 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: pdf-digest for June-30-98 [V2 #257] > > pdf-digest Tuesday, June 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number > 257 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > There are 17 messages totalling 1192 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the Day: > > 1. [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > 2. [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > 3. Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > 4. Re: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > 5. RE: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > 6. Re: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > 7. Re: [PDF] New header/banner > 8. RE: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > 9. [PDF] header/footer - I vote header > 10. Re: [PDF] PS thru virtual printer on Mac > 11. Re: [PDF] Printing Embedded TT Problem > 12. RE: [PDF] Automatic Updating of altered PDF pages in a PDF > document > 13. [PDF] Question: the future of PDF > 14. Re: [PDF] Question: the future of PDF > 15. Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > 16. Re: [PDF] header/footer - I vote header > 17. [PDF] startup errors, exchange, macintosh > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:04:34 +0000 > From: David Doonan > Subject: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > - -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > I am taking a supplied PDF file distilled in 3.0 > and adding internal hotlinks, as well as links to > web pages and mailto commands. The internal links > and the mailto commands are working, but I am > seeing a problem with the URL's. > > Clicking on one will launch my browser (netscape > 4.04) and bring me to the correct page, but the > browser remains hidden behind the acrobat display. > After a minute an error message appears that > states that the browser failed to respond within > one minute and the command is being cancelled. The > browser is responding to the command. This message > appears even when I hide acrobat and bring > netscape to the front, and start scrolling around > the web page. > > Any ideas? > - -- > David Doonan > ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com > http://home.nycap.rr.com/dadoonans/ > http://members.tripod.com/~greenwichptsa > IP 204.210.176.42 > > Positively Main Street web design > > Greenwich, New York > . . . The best small town in the world! > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:21:31 -0500 > From: Kurt Foss > Subject: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > > Many thanks to those who took a few minutes to reply to our recent > survey seeking your input on changes & additions you'd like to see in > The PDFzone. > > As mentioned previously, for the next few months our Web site will be > in the midst of a Re-Construction Season of sorts. We're expanding The > PDFzone to better serve the Acrobat/PDF community. Many of the > enhancements and additions will be based directly on the feedback you > have provided -- and we still welcome any additional comments at: > > http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html > > ALSO: the recently modified "header" field on PDF list messages was a > *temporary* change intended only to draw attention to this survey for a > couple weeks. Just back from vacation, I've now changed it back to a > message "footer." Sorry for any inconvenience that may have caused for > some subscribers, especially those whose email programs got confused by > the header. > > That's not to say that in the future we won't periodically use a > similar message header to draw attention to other short-term topics, > sponsors, etc. We'll do our best to minimize any complications. As > always, please feel free to let us know if/when you experience any > related problems. > > ***** > > A couple things worth mentioning, based in part on this recent experiment: > > * People should REMOVE automatically generated taglines -- headers OR > footers -- when they reply to the list address. Otherwise, they > multiply each time one fails to delete that text. > > * People also should DELETE the bulk of the previous message(s) to > which they are replying, keeping ONLY enough detail to provide > context for their reply. > > * Constructive criticism about PDF list management should in MOST > cases be sent DIRECTLY to the listowner > () rather than to all 1700+ > subscribers. As evidenced in the recent "Stop the Header" thread, > many offer nothing beyond a "Me, too" or "Here, here" comment, hardly > worthy of widespread distribution. > > ***** > > We look forward to hearing from many of you as the Re-Construction > continues. > > Rgds ~ Kurt > > > > > ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- > "Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager > EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 > 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 > Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com > Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > * PDF lists: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > * PDFzone EXTRA: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ > > "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius > in Lives of the Caesars > -30- > ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:36:51 -0700 > From: sgililland@nexstar.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > > Can't help with your problem - But, a request of my own - I've added > URL's, but hope someone can tell me how to add mailto commands to a PDF > document. > Thanks, SueG > > > > > David Doonan on 06/29/98 02:04:34 AM > > Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > To: pdf list > cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) > Subject: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > > > > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > - -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > I am taking a supplied PDF file distilled in 3.0 > and adding internal hotlinks, as well as links to > web pages and mailto commands. The internal links > and the mailto commands are working, but I am > seeing a problem with the URL's. > Clicking on one will launch my browser (netscape > 4.04) and bring me to the correct page, but the > browser remains hidden behind the acrobat display. > After a minute an error message appears that > states that the browser failed to respond within > one minute and the command is being cancelled. The > browser is responding to the command. This message > appears even when I hide acrobat and bring > netscape to the front, and start scrolling around > the web page. > Any ideas? > - -- > David Doonan > ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com > http://home.nycap.rr.com/dadoonans/ > http://members.tripod.com/~greenwichptsa > IP 204.210.176.42 > Positively Main Street web design > Greenwich, New York > . . . The best small town in the world! > > > > > > > > ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:55:57 -0400 > From: "Chris Lane" > Subject: Re: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > > Kurt, > > Thanks for getting rid of the PDF list header. A side comment on your > e-mail > about future headers. Emerge has done a great job in sponsoring and > maintaining this list. The rules of the list concerning advertisement are > pretty well followed. The past list header seemed a little self-serving > and > I worry about your comment concerning future headers, particularly the > part > about sponsors. Considering that this is your list, you can do whatever > you > like, but for my part I would appreciate no future headers and no > advertisements or sponsor announcements. > > Thanks and keep up the good work. > > Chris Lane > Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. > > P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com but it > would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read it. > Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see comments > from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its > subscribers. > > > > > ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:42:21 -0400 > From: "Huston, Virgil H." > Subject: RE: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > > Hey all, > > Since the question has been opened up....:-) > One thing we need to remember is that this list is a free service > provided by pdfzone. It takes time and money to run it. Virtually every > list I am on has advertising of one kind or another. Looking at an > advertisement is a small price to pay for what I get out of this list. > You are correst that a list is only as strong as its subscribers, but > that assumes someone provides the time and money to run it. Kurt, keep > up the good work and thanks. > > Virgil > > > P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > but it > > would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read > > it. > > Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see > > comments > > from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its > > subscribers. > > > > > > > > > > ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:10:14 -0500 > From: Kurt Foss > Subject: Re: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > > Chris et al, > > Since your reply went to ALL list subscribers, it's best -- but not my > preference -- to reply in kind this one time. I'd really rather NOT see > a prolonged thread over something seemingly trivial like message > headers and footers. For the sake of the majority of list subscribers > who, I'd wager, don't find this a compelling topic, I'd prefer > additional comments be sent directly to me. I'll be glad to post a > summary of *private* replies on this topic rather than have it become a > sideshow and a distraction on the list. > > That said, *if* anyone believes this *is* worthy of some (brief!) > public dialogue, we're not in the habit of stifling relevant discussion > on the various PDFzone lists. However, for the sake of all subscribers, > please post a public reply ONLY if you have something constructive to > add, NOT just to say -- more or less -- "Me, too!" > > Now, on to my response; apologies in advance for the length of this > one-time-only (I hope!) reply: > > We much appreciate your kind words about our list management & > sponsorship. We've made it a priority to maintain these lists as > commercial-free watering holes, which includes us not blatantly abusing > the lists (and list subcribers) with our own sales-oriented pitches. > We've taken numerous steps to keep would-be spammers from gaining > access to our subscriber lists and to the lists themselves. It's always > nice to hear that these efforts are appreciated by the Acrobat/PDF > community. > > As to possible future uses of footers, headers, etc, we're well aware > that this can become a source of dissatisfaction for some subscribers. > Accordingly, we've tried since launching our first email discussion in > 1995 to be prudent and respectful about our use of such text-based > taglines. At the same time, as our growing resources (lists, > newsletters, forums, etc) are made available at no cost to users -- yet > at *our* continued expense -- we believe most subscribers are willing > to tolerate some degree of sponsorship recognition as a trade-off. > > Likewise, I'm sure most would agree that the Internet has changed > considerably in its commercial orientation since we launched the > original PDF list. To date, we've not made any efforts to capitalize > financially on our lists, newsletter or Web site. At the same time, we > *do* believe the time is at hand to at least explore some of the > possibilities, such as offering short-term sponsorship opportunities to > others who might be interested in reaching pdf-savvy folks. As a > subscriber to dozens of other lists and newsletters, I know that some > of the better ones are able to do what they do *because* they now > accept relevant, timely ads or sponsors. > > We're lookinto into ways we might offset some of our own costs. That > *may* include banner ads within The PDFzone, email list and newsletter > sponsorships and/or ads (text and/or Web-based) and so forth. Like many > others, we're merely exploring possible options, while also seeking > input from subscribers and visitors. I *can* assure you that no actions > will be taken or strategies implemented without sincere consideration > of the opinions of users -- your feedback has always been a key factor > in the sorts of resources and services we offer as part of The PDFzone. > As you rightly state, any list is only as good as the people who > frequent it -- and we believe our subscribers are among the best & > brightest in the Acrobat/pdf world. > > Finally, the reality is that list management, when taken seriously and > done professionally, requires not inconsiderable time & expense. We're > only evaluating some ways we can continue to offer what we trust are > valuable resources while also spreading out some of the related costs > we incur in doing so. If you have other suggestions how we might find > the proper balance while respecting the wishes of subscribers, we'd > love to hear them! > > Until then -- that's my story & I'm sticking to it! ;-} > > Thanks for your attention. > > rgds ~ Kurt > === > > At 10:55 AM -0500 6/29/98, Chris Lane wrote: > Kurt, > > Thanks for getting rid of the PDF list header. A side comment on your > e-mail > about future headers. Emerge has done a great job in sponsoring and > maintaining this list. The rules of the list concerning advertisement are > pretty well followed. The past list header seemed a little self-serving > and > I worry about your comment concerning future headers, particularly the > part > about sponsors. Considering that this is your list, you can do whatever > you > like, but for my part I would appreciate no future headers and no > advertisements or sponsor announcements. > > Thanks and keep up the good work. > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:11:53 EDT > From: RobertB425@aol.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner > > I agree about the nuisance of the header. > Bob > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:28:57 +0100 > From: "David Cornwell" > Subject: RE: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > > > I worry about your comment concerning future headers, > > particularly the part > > about sponsors. Considering that this is your list, you can do > > whatever you > > like, but for my part I would appreciate no future headers and no > > advertisements or sponsor announcements. > > So what's in it for Emerge. From a commercial perspective I am surprised > that they haven't sought outside sponsors to date. All free web sites > which > contain useful information have adverts which cost considerably more to > download than a three line header. We continue (or at least I do) to use > these sites because the information they provide is very useful and it is > free. Whether we like it or not the Web is now a commercial environment > and > the normal rules of free enterprise will govern. If the list is useful > then > it will attract promotion. If everyone leaves because of promotion it will > cease to attract promotion and thus die. C'est la Vie! > > drc > - --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 98 13:49:49 -0000 > From: mjahn > Subject: [PDF] header/footer - I vote header > > >P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com but > it > >would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read it. > >Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see comments > >from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its > >subscribers. > > Okay, this is NOT a slam to Chris Lane - but since he asked for comments, > well, here is mine. > > This is from a Vendors perspective. At Agfa, we offer a service and > products - one is our push technology web site that offers the browser to > fill out a survey and whenthey submit, the site processes the answers and > generates a PDF file that is a brochure - this brocure contains images > and configurations of Agfa products that (judging from how you fill out > the survey) you should look into aquiring. - we even snail - mail you a > printed copy of this PDF printed using the Agfa ChromaPress. > > if you are interested in seeing this in action, go to: > > www.digitalroadmaps.com > > And build yourself one. > > Trust me, it has Agfas logos and messaging all over the thing. We built > the system. We paid for its development. It is our service to anyone whom > visits. it has the web address all over it as well - > > SO - about the banner - I copy / paste a LOT of information and forward > the amazing and crystal clear solutions, options, opinions and wisdom > from this forum, from ALL OF YOU OUT THERE - THANKS!!! - and (when it was > at the bottom) had to type a little ditty about where I came by this > information. > > I always left the banner on it - but when it was at the bottom, a lot of > people NEVER read where I got it (as they simply thought it was part of > my signature file) and would email me, "how can I get on a list"? So I > had to waste time telling them to read the bottom - so I like it at the > top. > > I ALSO happen to respect that the PDF zone is offering a free service to > us, that it is quite helpful, and possibly people may react and go to > their site more often (and by services from them) if they new where such > cool stuff came from - if anyone should be able to advertize for free, > and select where that Ad should appear, well, far be it from Agfa to tell > them. > > So, go boy. I liked it at the top, didn't mind it at the top, and if it > were my site, I tell all who didn't like it quit and build your own. > > The opinions express are not necessarily the same as Agfa's - but > frankly, it should not be necessary for me to even have an opinion here. > Are you all willing to send Emerge a check for paying for the monthly > pipe cost help offset the cost of the hardrives and CPUs use to support > this list? > > Hey, they can write whatever they want wherever they want, IMHO. > > Michael Jahn > PDF Evangelist > Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation > 200 Ballardvale Street > MS 200-4-5H > Wilmington, MASS > 01887-1069 > P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 > F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) > E: mikejahn@jahn.com > E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com > I: www.jahn.org > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:29:43 +0200 > From: Erwin Widmer > Subject: Re: [PDF] PS thru virtual printer on Mac > > dennis, > > But all your printer or paper settings to portrait even if the document is > landscape. Like that it should work. > > Erwin > > > Dennis Walker wrote: > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > > To Sub/Unsub: > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > > > This question may only have an esoteric appeal, but I'm hoping not. > > > > I'm am trying to automate the process of printing a report to disk from > > FileMake Pro 4 to a watched folder for auto-Distilling to PDF. This is > to > > automatically update a time sensitive report that is made available on > > our website. > > > > As a part of this strategy, I used the Desktop Printer Utility to create > > a virtual printer of type "Translator (PostScript)", which automatically > > writes to disk instead of to a printer. I selected the "Acrobat > Distiller > > (PPD)" as the PPD choice. > > > > The problem I'm having is that the postscript file that is produced does > > not distill to what I expect. The orientation is portrait instead of > > landscape (how it is printed), and who knows what else is different. If > I > > were to print the report manually using Laserwriter 8.5.1 and manually > > selecting "File" for the destination, then it distills fine as expected. > > > > I also tried a virtual printer of type "Printer (no printer > connection)", > > but this produced a proprietary file (instead of ps) which could not be > > Distilled. > > > > I guess I'm asking if anyone has gotten the virtual printers to work > > correctly when printing ps for Distilling. What could I be doing wrong? > > Maybe I need to hack the Acrobat Distiller PPD a little so it doesn't > > change the original page setup/print dialog settings. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net > > EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 > > InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > > > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:58:27 +0200 > From: "johan.leide" > Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Embedded TT Problem > > If you use Callas PDF toolbox:PDF toolbox the embedded truetype font is > included in the eps file. I newer had a problem with it. > > > > >I would suggest you to output that PDF file directly using Crakerjack > >plug-in. > > > >>I am having a problem printing embedded TrueType subsetted fonts to our > >>imagesetters (SyTex, Agfa, PantherPro). I receive Quark documents with > >>advertisements that are placed EPS files. The original files are PDF's, > >>however Quark will not allow direct placement of PDF's. The PDF ad is > >>"Exported" in Exchange then placed in Quark. When I examine the file all > >>fonts are subsetted, all but one are Type 1 embedded. The problem font > >>(Helvetica) is TrueType and also embedded. I can print the PDF file fine > to > >>all our output devices, however after an EPS is made the RIP's can no > >>longer find the font and it prints as Courier. > >> > >>Why can I print the file OK when in Exchange, but not out of Quark? > >> > >>How and what do I fix so these jobs print? > >> > >>I have contacted Adobe, SciTex, and Agfa several times, but no one has a > >>clue. In addition I've conducted many tests to no avail. Can anyone > help? > >> > >>Thanks! > >> > >>George Spiese > >>Corporate Macintosh Analyst > >>The Mack Printing Group > >>gspiese@mpg.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >< ed > > > > > > > > Johan Leide > Teknik i Media > 040-97 33 10 > 0706-72 00 35 > Http://www.tim.se > johan.leide@tim.se > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:24:19 -0400 > From: Kevin Wagner > Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic Updating of altered PDF pages in a PDF > document > > Check out Alliant Techs PDF Suite of products, Doc Depot, Doc Library, > Link Manager, etc. I believe one of these will meet your needs. > > Kevin Wagner > Operations Manager > Ridgway's Imaging > Kwagner@ridgways.com > > - -----Original Message----- > From: Christian Gaspar [SMTP:cgaspar@cgxpress.com] > Sent: Friday, June 26, 1998 12:42 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Automatic Updating of altered PDF pages in a PDF > document > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > - -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Does anyone know of any available tools for automatically updating a > PDF page within a file (and similarly updating its corresponding > bookmarks/links/index)? > > Using Capture, I'm trying to build a Revision Update Process so that > revised pages with a specific "tag" can replace automatically an older > version of the page in an otherwise unchanged PDF document. I realize > that it can be done manually but for a COLD application covering tens > of thousands of pages, there must be an easier way, or a commercial > tool, that can effectively "manage" this library of PDF. > > I'm also aware of dynamic PDF but this would be a scanned product > therefore it would not be continuously published. > > Finally, and related to the above in general, I have not been able to > find anything on the internet search engines or Adobe's web site (bless > their heart) about Acrobat 3 much-touted "Updateable PDF" feature. What > does it mean? How do you use it? What is it for? Can anyone explain or > direct me??? > > Thanks, in advance, for any clues > > Christian > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:56:55 PDT > From: "Sacha Cohen" > Subject: [PDF] Question: the future of PDF > > Hello PDF-ers: > I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the future of PDF. There's > this conference coming up on July 21-24 called INET in Geneva and I > think they may be discussing standards and the future of various formats > there. There's one session called "The Future of Killer Apps." Ya think > PDF will be mentioned? Is anyone planning to go to this? Let me know if > you are! > > Cheers, > Sacha > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:29:26 -0700 > From: "C. Scott Miller" > Subject: Re: [PDF] Question: the future of PDF > > >Hello PDF-ers: > >I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the future of PDF. > > My discourse on this subject can be found in the section called "Universal > Publishing" on my website (URL below). Use as you see fit. > > C. Scott Miller > > PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n > A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format > http://www.performancegraphics.com > > a production of Performance Graphics > miller@performancegraphics.com > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:00:10 +0200 > From: Max Wyss > Subject: Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > > David, > > I just did some testing as well, and I did get the same effect with Mac > Netscape Navigator 4.05. OK, the PDF to be downloaded in the browser > window > was pretty big (420 kB), and it did take longer than a minute to get it > in. > Despite the message, the file was transferred and displayed properly. > > It looks as if this message means that Exchange/Reader gives the browser > one minute to do its work and to confirm the transfer. It could be that > the > confirmation does not come through. > > Hope, this can help. > > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering AG > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com > > > Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... > > ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at > > http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html > > > > > _____________ > > > > > >Clicking on one will launch my browser (netscape > >4.04) and bring me to the correct page, but the > >browser remains hidden behind the acrobat display. > >After a minute an error message appears that > >states that the browser failed to respond within > >one minute and the command is being cancelled. The > >browser is responding to the command. This message > >appears even when I hide acrobat and bring > >netscape to the front, and start scrolling around > >the web page. > > > >Any ideas? > >-- > >David Doonan > > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:01:29 -0700 > From: Russell Hansberry > Subject: Re: [PDF] header/footer - I vote header > > Michael, > > I can see your point. Having the advertising in the header is a > convenience for you. Then if you forward the message, the recipient is > more likely to see where the message comes from because it is in the > header rather than in the footer. > > By contrast, everyone in the list gets all the messages in the list and > only a few are forwarded. They are more likely to see this message 20 or > more times a day. Once would be sufficient. The repetition only serves > to get in the way of accessing the desired information content. It does > not reinforce the message but rather it annoys the reader. It is much > like the 10th time your dinner is interrupted to to hear the same > telephone solicitation message. The results for the composer of the > message are not intended results. > > We all have limited resources to devote to forums such as this one. How > much of that can be devoted to useful dialog depends in part to how > efficiently we can send and receive information. If any significant > portion of the bandwidth between the user and his/her computer is > consumed for unproductive purposes, less can be accomplished with what > remains. This problem is compounded when the user is forced or tricked > into spending extra time doing non-productive activities. For example, > if the advertising message is in the header and causes the user to > scroll to see more content before deciding to ignore the message, that > reduces the utility of the forum. If a line is drawn to separate the > header (or footer) from the desired information and then the header or > footer is spread into the main body of the information area, the header > is read when the user is trying to read the information area and the > utility of the forum is reduced. > > In my opinion, we need more efficiency in our work, not less. In most > cases, moving advertising from the header to the footer significantly > improves efficiency. Moving it to a separate message altogether would be > even better. Then you can see it once a day instead of 20 times a day > and the message matches the subject so you receive it in context instead > of having to switch mental gears. > > This is just my opinion, your mileage may vary. > > Russell Hansberry > rhans@tsi-net.com > > mjahn wrote: > > > > >P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com but > it > > >would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read > it. > > >Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see > comments > > >from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its > > >subscribers. > > > > Okay, this is NOT a slam to Chris Lane - but since he asked for > comments, > > well, here is mine. > > > > This is from a Vendors perspective. At Agfa, we offer a service and > > products - one is our push technology web site that offers the browser > to > > fill out a survey and whenthey submit, the site processes the answers > and > > generates a PDF file that is a brochure - this brocure contains images > > and configurations of Agfa products that (judging from how you fill out > > the survey) you should look into aquiring. - we even snail - mail you a > > printed copy of this PDF printed using the Agfa ChromaPress. > > > > if you are interested in seeing this in action, go to: > > > > www.digitalroadmaps.com > > > > And build yourself one. > > > > Trust me, it has Agfas logos and messaging all over the thing. We built > > the system. We paid for its development. It is our service to anyone > whom > > visits. it has the web address all over it as well - > > > > SO - about the banner - I copy / paste a LOT of information and forward > > the amazing and crystal clear solutions, options, opinions and wisdom > > from this forum, from ALL OF YOU OUT THERE - THANKS!!! - and (when it > was > > at the bottom) had to type a little ditty about where I came by this > > information. > > > > I always left the banner on it - but when it was at the bottom, a lot of > > people NEVER read where I got it (as they simply thought it was part of > > my signature file) and would email me, "how can I get on a list"? So I > > had to waste time telling them to read the bottom - so I like it at the > > top. > > > > I ALSO happen to respect that the PDF zone is offering a free service to > > us, that it is quite helpful, and possibly people may react and go to > > their site more often (and by services from them) if they new where such > > cool stuff came from - if anyone should be able to advertize for free, > > and select where that Ad should appear, well, far be it from Agfa to > tell > > them. > > > > So, go boy. I liked it at the top, didn't mind it at the top, and if it > > were my site, I tell all who didn't like it quit and build your own. > > > > The opinions express are not necessarily the same as Agfa's - but > > frankly, it should not be necessary for me to even have an opinion here. > > Are you all willing to send Emerge a check for paying for the monthly > > pipe cost help offset the cost of the hardrives and CPUs use to support > > this list? > > > > Hey, they can write whatever they want wherever they want, IMHO. > > > > Michael Jahn > > PDF Evangelist > > Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation > > 200 Ballardvale Street > > MS 200-4-5H > > Wilmington, MASS > > 01887-1069 > > P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 > > F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) > > E: mikejahn@jahn.com > > E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com > > I: www.jahn.org > > > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:11:20 -0400 (EDT) > From: jim kramer > Subject: [PDF] startup errors, exchange, macintosh > > help, i did something dumb and i cant figure out how to fix it. > > this is a powerPC mac with system 8.1, plenty of memory. > > i shut off a bunch of extensions the other day. actually, i did an install > of internet explorer 4.01 and then shut off whatever microsoft extensions > i > found with extensions manager. when i started ie4, it told me i needed > "microsoft components library" so i turned that back on and everything > worked fine. > > i dont remember turning anything else off. this is the only system-type > thing i've done recently. > > now, when i start acrobat exchange i get these error messages as it loads > the plug-ins: > > There was an error while loading the plug-in > 'ImportPI'. There was a Macintosh system error > (-2804) > > There was an error while loading the plug-in > 'OCR'. There was a Macintosh system error > (-2804) > > There was an error while loading the plug-in > 'ScanPI'. There was a Macintosh system error > (-2804) > > does anyone know if there is some essential extension i might have turned > off that makes this happen? > > thanks in advance > > > Jim Kramer > > ____________________________________________ > The nation that controls magnetism will rule the universe. > > --Chester Gould > > > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > End of pdf-digest V2 #257 > ************************* > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 22:34:31-GMT,42316;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23342 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:34:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25982; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:16:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:13:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25746; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:13:01 -0500 Message-ID: <4BC88098C5DDCF11A5E40000F8014BA7014F8953@mshmshois1p.mss.tva.gov> From: "Norman, James Dan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for June-30-98 [V2 #257] Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:12:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com I do not mind some advertising so long as it does not interfere with the sense or readability of the messages. When it does, it defeats the purpose you avow to serve. The survey information was well into the category of interference. I hope you will not repeat such an intrusive format in the future. I think you may anticipate some people will not take time to delete such information. And it should not be included in every single message either on purpose or by accident. Thank you. As an aside it would be very nice if the digests were set up and distributed as a PDF with hypertext links from the table of contents to the individual messages. With so many neat plugins that generate links automatically-- surely somenone could help you. It would lend great credibility to your promotion of PDF as a publishing medium if you actually used it. It would also lend itself to archival and searchability of previous threads. (By the way why doesn't Adobe use Verity's search engine or even optimize their PDF files on their web site??) > ---------- > From: > owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com[SMTP:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 8:11 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: pdf-digest for June-30-98 [V2 #257] > > pdf-digest Tuesday, June 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number > 257 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > There are 17 messages totalling 1192 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the Day: > > 1. [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > 2. [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > 3. Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > 4. Re: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > 5. RE: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > 6. Re: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > 7. Re: [PDF] New header/banner > 8. RE: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > 9. [PDF] header/footer - I vote header > 10. Re: [PDF] PS thru virtual printer on Mac > 11. Re: [PDF] Printing Embedded TT Problem > 12. RE: [PDF] Automatic Updating of altered PDF pages in a PDF > document > 13. [PDF] Question: the future of PDF > 14. Re: [PDF] Question: the future of PDF > 15. Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > 16. Re: [PDF] header/footer - I vote header > 17. [PDF] startup errors, exchange, macintosh > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:04:34 +0000 > From: David Doonan > Subject: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > - -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > I am taking a supplied PDF file distilled in 3.0 > and adding internal hotlinks, as well as links to > web pages and mailto commands. The internal links > and the mailto commands are working, but I am > seeing a problem with the URL's. > > Clicking on one will launch my browser (netscape > 4.04) and bring me to the correct page, but the > browser remains hidden behind the acrobat display. > After a minute an error message appears that > states that the browser failed to respond within > one minute and the command is being cancelled. The > browser is responding to the command. This message > appears even when I hide acrobat and bring > netscape to the front, and start scrolling around > the web page. > > Any ideas? > - -- > David Doonan > ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com > http://home.nycap.rr.com/dadoonans/ > http://members.tripod.com/~greenwichptsa > IP 204.210.176.42 > > Positively Main Street web design > > Greenwich, New York > . . . The best small town in the world! > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:21:31 -0500 > From: Kurt Foss > Subject: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > > Many thanks to those who took a few minutes to reply to our recent > survey seeking your input on changes & additions you'd like to see in > The PDFzone. > > As mentioned previously, for the next few months our Web site will be > in the midst of a Re-Construction Season of sorts. We're expanding The > PDFzone to better serve the Acrobat/PDF community. Many of the > enhancements and additions will be based directly on the feedback you > have provided -- and we still welcome any additional comments at: > > http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html > > ALSO: the recently modified "header" field on PDF list messages was a > *temporary* change intended only to draw attention to this survey for a > couple weeks. Just back from vacation, I've now changed it back to a > message "footer." Sorry for any inconvenience that may have caused for > some subscribers, especially those whose email programs got confused by > the header. > > That's not to say that in the future we won't periodically use a > similar message header to draw attention to other short-term topics, > sponsors, etc. We'll do our best to minimize any complications. As > always, please feel free to let us know if/when you experience any > related problems. > > ***** > > A couple things worth mentioning, based in part on this recent experiment: > > * People should REMOVE automatically generated taglines -- headers OR > footers -- when they reply to the list address. Otherwise, they > multiply each time one fails to delete that text. > > * People also should DELETE the bulk of the previous message(s) to > which they are replying, keeping ONLY enough detail to provide > context for their reply. > > * Constructive criticism about PDF list management should in MOST > cases be sent DIRECTLY to the listowner > () rather than to all 1700+ > subscribers. As evidenced in the recent "Stop the Header" thread, > many offer nothing beyond a "Me, too" or "Here, here" comment, hardly > worthy of widespread distribution. > > ***** > > We look forward to hearing from many of you as the Re-Construction > continues. > > Rgds ~ Kurt > > > > > ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- > "Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager > EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 > 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 > Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com > Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > * PDF lists: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > * PDFzone EXTRA: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ > > "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius > in Lives of the Caesars > -30- > ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:36:51 -0700 > From: sgililland@nexstar.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > > Can't help with your problem - But, a request of my own - I've added > URL's, but hope someone can tell me how to add mailto commands to a PDF > document. > Thanks, SueG > > > > > David Doonan on 06/29/98 02:04:34 AM > > Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > To: pdf list > cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) > Subject: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > > > > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > - -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > I am taking a supplied PDF file distilled in 3.0 > and adding internal hotlinks, as well as links to > web pages and mailto commands. The internal links > and the mailto commands are working, but I am > seeing a problem with the URL's. > Clicking on one will launch my browser (netscape > 4.04) and bring me to the correct page, but the > browser remains hidden behind the acrobat display. > After a minute an error message appears that > states that the browser failed to respond within > one minute and the command is being cancelled. The > browser is responding to the command. This message > appears even when I hide acrobat and bring > netscape to the front, and start scrolling around > the web page. > Any ideas? > - -- > David Doonan > ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com > http://home.nycap.rr.com/dadoonans/ > http://members.tripod.com/~greenwichptsa > IP 204.210.176.42 > Positively Main Street web design > Greenwich, New York > . . . The best small town in the world! > > > > > > > > ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:55:57 -0400 > From: "Chris Lane" > Subject: Re: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > > Kurt, > > Thanks for getting rid of the PDF list header. A side comment on your > e-mail > about future headers. Emerge has done a great job in sponsoring and > maintaining this list. The rules of the list concerning advertisement are > pretty well followed. The past list header seemed a little self-serving > and > I worry about your comment concerning future headers, particularly the > part > about sponsors. Considering that this is your list, you can do whatever > you > like, but for my part I would appreciate no future headers and no > advertisements or sponsor announcements. > > Thanks and keep up the good work. > > Chris Lane > Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. > > P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com but it > would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read it. > Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see comments > from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its > subscribers. > > > > > ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:42:21 -0400 > From: "Huston, Virgil H." > Subject: RE: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > > Hey all, > > Since the question has been opened up....:-) > One thing we need to remember is that this list is a free service > provided by pdfzone. It takes time and money to run it. Virtually every > list I am on has advertising of one kind or another. Looking at an > advertisement is a small price to pay for what I get out of this list. > You are correst that a list is only as strong as its subscribers, but > that assumes someone provides the time and money to run it. Kurt, keep > up the good work and thanks. > > Virgil > > > P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > but it > > would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read > > it. > > Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see > > comments > > from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its > > subscribers. > > > > > > > > > > ==== It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone ===== > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:10:14 -0500 > From: Kurt Foss > Subject: Re: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > > Chris et al, > > Since your reply went to ALL list subscribers, it's best -- but not my > preference -- to reply in kind this one time. I'd really rather NOT see > a prolonged thread over something seemingly trivial like message > headers and footers. For the sake of the majority of list subscribers > who, I'd wager, don't find this a compelling topic, I'd prefer > additional comments be sent directly to me. I'll be glad to post a > summary of *private* replies on this topic rather than have it become a > sideshow and a distraction on the list. > > That said, *if* anyone believes this *is* worthy of some (brief!) > public dialogue, we're not in the habit of stifling relevant discussion > on the various PDFzone lists. However, for the sake of all subscribers, > please post a public reply ONLY if you have something constructive to > add, NOT just to say -- more or less -- "Me, too!" > > Now, on to my response; apologies in advance for the length of this > one-time-only (I hope!) reply: > > We much appreciate your kind words about our list management & > sponsorship. We've made it a priority to maintain these lists as > commercial-free watering holes, which includes us not blatantly abusing > the lists (and list subcribers) with our own sales-oriented pitches. > We've taken numerous steps to keep would-be spammers from gaining > access to our subscriber lists and to the lists themselves. It's always > nice to hear that these efforts are appreciated by the Acrobat/PDF > community. > > As to possible future uses of footers, headers, etc, we're well aware > that this can become a source of dissatisfaction for some subscribers. > Accordingly, we've tried since launching our first email discussion in > 1995 to be prudent and respectful about our use of such text-based > taglines. At the same time, as our growing resources (lists, > newsletters, forums, etc) are made available at no cost to users -- yet > at *our* continued expense -- we believe most subscribers are willing > to tolerate some degree of sponsorship recognition as a trade-off. > > Likewise, I'm sure most would agree that the Internet has changed > considerably in its commercial orientation since we launched the > original PDF list. To date, we've not made any efforts to capitalize > financially on our lists, newsletter or Web site. At the same time, we > *do* believe the time is at hand to at least explore some of the > possibilities, such as offering short-term sponsorship opportunities to > others who might be interested in reaching pdf-savvy folks. As a > subscriber to dozens of other lists and newsletters, I know that some > of the better ones are able to do what they do *because* they now > accept relevant, timely ads or sponsors. > > We're lookinto into ways we might offset some of our own costs. That > *may* include banner ads within The PDFzone, email list and newsletter > sponsorships and/or ads (text and/or Web-based) and so forth. Like many > others, we're merely exploring possible options, while also seeking > input from subscribers and visitors. I *can* assure you that no actions > will be taken or strategies implemented without sincere consideration > of the opinions of users -- your feedback has always been a key factor > in the sorts of resources and services we offer as part of The PDFzone. > As you rightly state, any list is only as good as the people who > frequent it -- and we believe our subscribers are among the best & > brightest in the Acrobat/pdf world. > > Finally, the reality is that list management, when taken seriously and > done professionally, requires not inconsiderable time & expense. We're > only evaluating some ways we can continue to offer what we trust are > valuable resources while also spreading out some of the related costs > we incur in doing so. If you have other suggestions how we might find > the proper balance while respecting the wishes of subscribers, we'd > love to hear them! > > Until then -- that's my story & I'm sticking to it! ;-} > > Thanks for your attention. > > rgds ~ Kurt > === > > At 10:55 AM -0500 6/29/98, Chris Lane wrote: > Kurt, > > Thanks for getting rid of the PDF list header. A side comment on your > e-mail > about future headers. Emerge has done a great job in sponsoring and > maintaining this list. The rules of the list concerning advertisement are > pretty well followed. The past list header seemed a little self-serving > and > I worry about your comment concerning future headers, particularly the > part > about sponsors. Considering that this is your list, you can do whatever > you > like, but for my part I would appreciate no future headers and no > advertisements or sponsor announcements. > > Thanks and keep up the good work. > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:11:53 EDT > From: RobertB425@aol.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] New header/banner > > I agree about the nuisance of the header. > Bob > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:28:57 +0100 > From: "David Cornwell" > Subject: RE: [PDF] Tks for survey replies; header/footer lessons > > > I worry about your comment concerning future headers, > > particularly the part > > about sponsors. Considering that this is your list, you can do > > whatever you > > like, but for my part I would appreciate no future headers and no > > advertisements or sponsor announcements. > > So what's in it for Emerge. From a commercial perspective I am surprised > that they haven't sought outside sponsors to date. All free web sites > which > contain useful information have adverts which cost considerably more to > download than a three line header. We continue (or at least I do) to use > these sites because the information they provide is very useful and it is > free. Whether we like it or not the Web is now a commercial environment > and > the normal rules of free enterprise will govern. If the list is useful > then > it will attract promotion. If everyone leaves because of promotion it will > cease to attract promotion and thus die. C'est la Vie! > > drc > - --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 98 13:49:49 -0000 > From: mjahn > Subject: [PDF] header/footer - I vote header > > >P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com but > it > >would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read it. > >Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see comments > >from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its > >subscribers. > > Okay, this is NOT a slam to Chris Lane - but since he asked for comments, > well, here is mine. > > This is from a Vendors perspective. At Agfa, we offer a service and > products - one is our push technology web site that offers the browser to > fill out a survey and whenthey submit, the site processes the answers and > generates a PDF file that is a brochure - this brocure contains images > and configurations of Agfa products that (judging from how you fill out > the survey) you should look into aquiring. - we even snail - mail you a > printed copy of this PDF printed using the Agfa ChromaPress. > > if you are interested in seeing this in action, go to: > > www.digitalroadmaps.com > > And build yourself one. > > Trust me, it has Agfas logos and messaging all over the thing. We built > the system. We paid for its development. It is our service to anyone whom > visits. it has the web address all over it as well - > > SO - about the banner - I copy / paste a LOT of information and forward > the amazing and crystal clear solutions, options, opinions and wisdom > from this forum, from ALL OF YOU OUT THERE - THANKS!!! - and (when it was > at the bottom) had to type a little ditty about where I came by this > information. > > I always left the banner on it - but when it was at the bottom, a lot of > people NEVER read where I got it (as they simply thought it was part of > my signature file) and would email me, "how can I get on a list"? So I > had to waste time telling them to read the bottom - so I like it at the > top. > > I ALSO happen to respect that the PDF zone is offering a free service to > us, that it is quite helpful, and possibly people may react and go to > their site more often (and by services from them) if they new where such > cool stuff came from - if anyone should be able to advertize for free, > and select where that Ad should appear, well, far be it from Agfa to tell > them. > > So, go boy. I liked it at the top, didn't mind it at the top, and if it > were my site, I tell all who didn't like it quit and build your own. > > The opinions express are not necessarily the same as Agfa's - but > frankly, it should not be necessary for me to even have an opinion here. > Are you all willing to send Emerge a check for paying for the monthly > pipe cost help offset the cost of the hardrives and CPUs use to support > this list? > > Hey, they can write whatever they want wherever they want, IMHO. > > Michael Jahn > PDF Evangelist > Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation > 200 Ballardvale Street > MS 200-4-5H > Wilmington, MASS > 01887-1069 > P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 > F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) > E: mikejahn@jahn.com > E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com > I: www.jahn.org > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:29:43 +0200 > From: Erwin Widmer > Subject: Re: [PDF] PS thru virtual printer on Mac > > dennis, > > But all your printer or paper settings to portrait even if the document is > landscape. Like that it should work. > > Erwin > > > Dennis Walker wrote: > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > > To Sub/Unsub: > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > > > This question may only have an esoteric appeal, but I'm hoping not. > > > > I'm am trying to automate the process of printing a report to disk from > > FileMake Pro 4 to a watched folder for auto-Distilling to PDF. This is > to > > automatically update a time sensitive report that is made available on > > our website. > > > > As a part of this strategy, I used the Desktop Printer Utility to create > > a virtual printer of type "Translator (PostScript)", which automatically > > writes to disk instead of to a printer. I selected the "Acrobat > Distiller > > (PPD)" as the PPD choice. > > > > The problem I'm having is that the postscript file that is produced does > > not distill to what I expect. The orientation is portrait instead of > > landscape (how it is printed), and who knows what else is different. If > I > > were to print the report manually using Laserwriter 8.5.1 and manually > > selecting "File" for the destination, then it distills fine as expected. > > > > I also tried a virtual printer of type "Printer (no printer > connection)", > > but this produced a proprietary file (instead of ps) which could not be > > Distilled. > > > > I guess I'm asking if anyone has gotten the virtual printers to work > > correctly when printing ps for Distilling. What could I be doing wrong? > > Maybe I need to hack the Acrobat Distiller PPD a little so it doesn't > > change the original page setup/print dialog settings. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net > > EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 > > InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > > > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:58:27 +0200 > From: "johan.leide" > Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Embedded TT Problem > > If you use Callas PDF toolbox:PDF toolbox the embedded truetype font is > included in the eps file. I newer had a problem with it. > > > > >I would suggest you to output that PDF file directly using Crakerjack > >plug-in. > > > >>I am having a problem printing embedded TrueType subsetted fonts to our > >>imagesetters (SyTex, Agfa, PantherPro). I receive Quark documents with > >>advertisements that are placed EPS files. The original files are PDF's, > >>however Quark will not allow direct placement of PDF's. The PDF ad is > >>"Exported" in Exchange then placed in Quark. When I examine the file all > >>fonts are subsetted, all but one are Type 1 embedded. The problem font > >>(Helvetica) is TrueType and also embedded. I can print the PDF file fine > to > >>all our output devices, however after an EPS is made the RIP's can no > >>longer find the font and it prints as Courier. > >> > >>Why can I print the file OK when in Exchange, but not out of Quark? > >> > >>How and what do I fix so these jobs print? > >> > >>I have contacted Adobe, SciTex, and Agfa several times, but no one has a > >>clue. In addition I've conducted many tests to no avail. Can anyone > help? > >> > >>Thanks! > >> > >>George Spiese > >>Corporate Macintosh Analyst > >>The Mack Printing Group > >>gspiese@mpg.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >< ed > > > > > > > > Johan Leide > Teknik i Media > 040-97 33 10 > 0706-72 00 35 > Http://www.tim.se > johan.leide@tim.se > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:24:19 -0400 > From: Kevin Wagner > Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic Updating of altered PDF pages in a PDF > document > > Check out Alliant Techs PDF Suite of products, Doc Depot, Doc Library, > Link Manager, etc. I believe one of these will meet your needs. > > Kevin Wagner > Operations Manager > Ridgway's Imaging > Kwagner@ridgways.com > > - -----Original Message----- > From: Christian Gaspar [SMTP:cgaspar@cgxpress.com] > Sent: Friday, June 26, 1998 12:42 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Automatic Updating of altered PDF pages in a PDF > document > > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > - -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Does anyone know of any available tools for automatically updating a > PDF page within a file (and similarly updating its corresponding > bookmarks/links/index)? > > Using Capture, I'm trying to build a Revision Update Process so that > revised pages with a specific "tag" can replace automatically an older > version of the page in an otherwise unchanged PDF document. I realize > that it can be done manually but for a COLD application covering tens > of thousands of pages, there must be an easier way, or a commercial > tool, that can effectively "manage" this library of PDF. > > I'm also aware of dynamic PDF but this would be a scanned product > therefore it would not be continuously published. > > Finally, and related to the above in general, I have not been able to > find anything on the internet search engines or Adobe's web site (bless > their heart) about Acrobat 3 much-touted "Updateable PDF" feature. What > does it mean? How do you use it? What is it for? Can anyone explain or > direct me??? > > Thanks, in advance, for any clues > > Christian > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:56:55 PDT > From: "Sacha Cohen" > Subject: [PDF] Question: the future of PDF > > Hello PDF-ers: > I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the future of PDF. There's > this conference coming up on July 21-24 called INET in Geneva and I > think they may be discussing standards and the future of various formats > there. There's one session called "The Future of Killer Apps." Ya think > PDF will be mentioned? Is anyone planning to go to this? Let me know if > you are! > > Cheers, > Sacha > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:29:26 -0700 > From: "C. Scott Miller" > Subject: Re: [PDF] Question: the future of PDF > > >Hello PDF-ers: > >I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the future of PDF. > > My discourse on this subject can be found in the section called "Universal > Publishing" on my website (URL below). Use as you see fit. > > C. Scott Miller > > PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n > A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format > http://www.performancegraphics.com > > a production of Performance Graphics > miller@performancegraphics.com > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:00:10 +0200 > From: Max Wyss > Subject: Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? > > David, > > I just did some testing as well, and I did get the same effect with Mac > Netscape Navigator 4.05. OK, the PDF to be downloaded in the browser > window > was pretty big (420 kB), and it did take longer than a minute to get it > in. > Despite the message, the file was transferred and displayed properly. > > It looks as if this message means that Exchange/Reader gives the browser > one minute to do its work and to confirm the transfer. It could be that > the > confirmation does not come through. > > Hope, this can help. > > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering AG > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com > > > Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... > > ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at > > http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html > > > > > _____________ > > > > > >Clicking on one will launch my browser (netscape > >4.04) and bring me to the correct page, but the > >browser remains hidden behind the acrobat display. > >After a minute an error message appears that > >states that the browser failed to respond within > >one minute and the command is being cancelled. The > >browser is responding to the command. This message > >appears even when I hide acrobat and bring > >netscape to the front, and start scrolling around > >the web page. > > > >Any ideas? > >-- > >David Doonan > > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > - ------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:01:29 -0700 > From: Russell Hansberry > Subject: Re: [PDF] header/footer - I vote header > > Michael, > > I can see your point. Having the advertising in the header is a > convenience for you. Then if you forward the message, the recipient is > more likely to see where the message comes from because it is in the > header rather than in the footer. > > By contrast, everyone in the list gets all the messages in the list and > only a few are forwarded. They are more likely to see this message 20 or > more times a day. Once would be sufficient. The repetition only serves > to get in the way of accessing the desired information content. It does > not reinforce the message but rather it annoys the reader. It is much > like the 10th time your dinner is interrupted to to hear the same > telephone solicitation message. The results for the composer of the > message are not intended results. > > We all have limited resources to devote to forums such as this one. How > much of that can be devoted to useful dialog depends in part to how > efficiently we can send and receive information. If any significant > portion of the bandwidth between the user and his/her computer is > consumed for unproductive purposes, less can be accomplished with what > remains. This problem is compounded when the user is forced or tricked > into spending extra time doing non-productive activities. For example, > if the advertising message is in the header and causes the user to > scroll to see more content before deciding to ignore the message, that > reduces the utility of the forum. If a line is drawn to separate the > header (or footer) from the desired information and then the header or > footer is spread into the main body of the information area, the header > is read when the user is trying to read the information area and the > utility of the forum is reduced. > > In my opinion, we need more efficiency in our work, not less. In most > cases, moving advertising from the header to the footer significantly > improves efficiency. Moving it to a separate message altogether would be > even better. Then you can see it once a day instead of 20 times a day > and the message matches the subject so you receive it in context instead > of having to switch mental gears. > > This is just my opinion, your mileage may vary. > > Russell Hansberry > rhans@tsi-net.com > > mjahn wrote: > > > > >P.S. I tried to mail this to mailto:listowner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com but > it > > >would not go through, so I guess all 1700+ are going to have to read > it. > > >Also, considering that this is a list issue, I would like to see > comments > > >from others on this matter. After all, a list is only as strong as its > > >subscribers. > > > > Okay, this is NOT a slam to Chris Lane - but since he asked for > comments, > > well, here is mine. > > > > This is from a Vendors perspective. At Agfa, we offer a service and > > products - one is our push technology web site that offers the browser > to > > fill out a survey and whenthey submit, the site processes the answers > and > > generates a PDF file that is a brochure - this brocure contains images > > and configurations of Agfa products that (judging from how you fill out > > the survey) you should look into aquiring. - we even snail - mail you a > > printed copy of this PDF printed using the Agfa ChromaPress. > > > > if you are interested in seeing this in action, go to: > > > > www.digitalroadmaps.com > > > > And build yourself one. > > > > Trust me, it has Agfas logos and messaging all over the thing. We built > > the system. We paid for its development. It is our service to anyone > whom > > visits. it has the web address all over it as well - > > > > SO - about the banner - I copy / paste a LOT of information and forward > > the amazing and crystal clear solutions, options, opinions and wisdom > > from this forum, from ALL OF YOU OUT THERE - THANKS!!! - and (when it > was > > at the bottom) had to type a little ditty about where I came by this > > information. > > > > I always left the banner on it - but when it was at the bottom, a lot of > > people NEVER read where I got it (as they simply thought it was part of > > my signature file) and would email me, "how can I get on a list"? So I > > had to waste time telling them to read the bottom - so I like it at the > > top. > > > > I ALSO happen to respect that the PDF zone is offering a free service to > > us, that it is quite helpful, and possibly people may react and go to > > their site more often (and by services from them) if they new where such > > cool stuff came from - if anyone should be able to advertize for free, > > and select where that Ad should appear, well, far be it from Agfa to > tell > > them. > > > > So, go boy. I liked it at the top, didn't mind it at the top, and if it > > were my site, I tell all who didn't like it quit and build your own. > > > > The opinions express are not necessarily the same as Agfa's - but > > frankly, it should not be necessary for me to even have an opinion here. > > Are you all willing to send Emerge a check for paying for the monthly > > pipe cost help offset the cost of the hardrives and CPUs use to support > > this list? > > > > Hey, they can write whatever they want wherever they want, IMHO. > > > > Michael Jahn > > PDF Evangelist > > Agfa Division, Bayer Corporation > > 200 Ballardvale Street > > MS 200-4-5H > > Wilmington, MASS > > 01887-1069 > > P:800.540.2432, press 1 then 5504 > > F:978.658.7968 (don't send a fax - attach a PDF!) > > E: mikejahn@jahn.com > > E: (for large files) michael_jahn@agfa.com > > I: www.jahn.org > > > > == It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone == > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:11:20 -0400 (EDT) > From: jim kramer > Subject: [PDF] startup errors, exchange, macintosh > > help, i did something dumb and i cant figure out how to fix it. > > this is a powerPC mac with system 8.1, plenty of memory. > > i shut off a bunch of extensions the other day. actually, i did an install > of internet explorer 4.01 and then shut off whatever microsoft extensions > i > found with extensions manager. when i started ie4, it told me i needed > "microsoft components library" so i turned that back on and everything > worked fine. > > i dont remember turning anything else off. this is the only system-type > thing i've done recently. > > now, when i start acrobat exchange i get these error messages as it loads > the plug-ins: > > There was an error while loading the plug-in > 'ImportPI'. There was a Macintosh system error > (-2804) > > There was an error while loading the plug-in > 'OCR'. There was a Macintosh system error > (-2804) > > There was an error while loading the plug-in > 'ScanPI'. There was a Macintosh system error > (-2804) > > does anyone know if there is some essential extension i might have turned > off that makes this happen? > > thanks in advance > > > Jim Kramer > > ____________________________________________ > The nation that controls magnetism will rule the universe. > > --Chester Gould > > > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > End of pdf-digest V2 #257 > ************************* > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jun-1998 23:53:57-GMT,2632;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25062 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:53:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28906; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:23:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:18:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28691; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:18:56 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256633.0080AD2B.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:27:19 -0700 Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing Number and name of Doc Info fields Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Are you aware of a plug-in that's available to do this? SueG "Aandi Inston" on 06/30/98 03:03:16 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing Number and name of Doc Info fields > Is there a way to change the number of document info fields > -- like to add > two or three more? Is there a way to change the name of the > four default > doc info fields? I seem to remember some sort of PDFmark way > of doing it, > but is there a way to do this with PDF Image Only PDFs, not > just distilled > PDFs? Plug-ins? Command line/batch mode? Using a plug-in or PDFMarks you can support additional document info fields. You cannot change the behaviour of Document Info, you would need an additional menu item provided by the plug-in. Names added to PDF files should be registered with Adobe - they will give you a four character prefix and all your field names should start with it (though this need not appear on screen). Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 1:47:55-GMT,1824;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA27133 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:47:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00952; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:31:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:25:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00720; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:25:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:25:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: kingkern@mail.eclipse.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199806302213.RAA25772@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jim kramer Subject: Re: [PDF] startup errors, exchange, macintosh Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com thank you mark and particularly brett, i never would figured out which ones to turn back on. (mark -- i just turned off everything that said microsoft. i didnt take notes. like i said, i did something dumb.) i love mailing lists. Jim Kramer ____________________________________________ The nation that controls magnetism will rule the universe. --Chester Gould _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 1:51:03-GMT,3673;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA27223 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:51:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01309; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:40:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:37:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01169; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:37:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:38:24 -0500 To: "PDFzone mailing list" From: woodi@cobe.com Subject: [PDF] Seybold & PDF, header/footers Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Speaking as someone who receives the digested version of the listserve, the header/footer issue is irrelevant. Speaking as someone whose job responsibilities are NOT "learning everything I can about Acrobat" and uses it only as a "helpful utility", I would say that "relevant, timely ads or sponsors" are potentially helpful to me and may save me the time and trouble of trying to discover a plug-in or add-on or work-around for a project that I am currently working on. In other words, the "ads" may keep me from re-inventing the wheel and I welcome them. - - - - - I just received the Advance Program Guide to this year's Seybold Conference in San Francisco, CA, USA: www.seyboldseminars.com I'll list relevant workshops (from the Print Professional track) which will be offered: - Acrobat and PDF: Beyond the Basics - PDF for Prepress - XML and PDF: Working Together - Interactive PDF: Creating Digital Publications - Power Preflighting - The Future of Publishing - PDF Workflows: Slightly Before Their Time? - Working with PDF Today - Print vs. the Web: Can We Find a Balance Seybold will also offer a concurrent "Web Professional" track of workshops, however PDF or Acrobat was not mentioned in any of the titles of these workshops. They also offer a Product Exposition. Adobe is listed as an exhibitor. For those of you unfamiliar with Seybold conferences, they are pretty exciting and informative to attend. I went to one about 5 years ago. There were 20,000+ attendees from all over the planet. Steve Jobs (Apple) will be the keynote speaker this year. The unfortunate side is the price. This year's early bird discount for the entire event is $2,195.00 (US funds). If you can't afford that, they do offer "Special Interest Days" for $365 (per day). Hotels in the convention area are running $112 to $184 (single rate) per day plus 14% room tax. I will not be attending this year. - - - - - I hope someone from this listserve can attend and provide us all with some useful information. Have a good day! > Ivy Wood > Graphic Artist > specializing in > Label & Web graphics > > COBE Laboratories, Inc. > ATTN: Print Shop > 1201 Oak St., Lakewood, CO USA 80215 > Toll Free: 800.252.2623 ext. 4690 > Print Shop main: 303.231.4277 > Ivy's direct line: 303.231.4690 > fax: 303.231.4830 > woodi@cobe.com > "Live Long & Prosper!" _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 4:45:29-GMT,1817;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00500 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:45:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06809; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:25:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:20:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06693; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:20:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:22:07 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: miller@performancegraphics.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Capture - Better on Windows 95 or NT? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com >Try this, if you are not capturing as an administrator: > >Logon as an administrator. >Locate one or both __PDF.INI files (two underscores) >Make them world-writeable. >Logon as the end-user and try again. > >Aandi Thanks Aandi, Your recommendation was right on the money. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________