1-Jul-1998 7:44:43-GMT,2093;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04051 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 01:44:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12257; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:24:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:21:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12126; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:21:57 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980701103253.009a1eb0@abirnet.co.il> X-Sender: susan@abirnet.co.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 10:32:53 +0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Subject: [PDF] Quality of graphics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Hi all History: Using Windows NT, converting Word doc to PDF, lots of graphics in doc, using Acrobat 3.0 Distiller. Problem: the graphics are horrible on screen, but print okay. BUT, there is a lot of white space surrounding the text (the page size in Word is A5). I've tried various combinations of page sizes etc, but nothing helps. If I use PDF writer to do the conversion, the page fits properly, but the graphics are horrible on screen and when printed. I understand that there is a trade-off involved in pdf as far as graphics are concerned - you can't get good screen results and good printed results. Is this correct? Any suggestions? This is quite urgent! Thanks in advance Susan please reply to susan@abirnet.co.il _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 8:37:33-GMT,2643;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA05160 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:37:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA13734; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:19:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:17:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13637; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:17:15 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA4D9.1009FB30.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] latex -> pdf Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:39:43 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Sonja, I (faintly) remember a company called Y&Y offering something for tex=>pdf conversion. I don't know what, though. They also have some PS1 fonts for "acrobating", I think. You can check it at http://www.YandY.com Also, a tex specialist once told me inter- and intradocument pointers are no big deal for tex and are rendered in PDF using a latex macro which creates them with PDFmark. Jernej On Friday, June 26, 1998 10:20 AM, Sonja Branskat [SMTP:sonja.branskat@FernUni-Hagen.de] wrote: > > ===== PDFzone Construction Season Begins June 15, 1998 ====== > Please complete our brief Web site visitor survey at: > -> http://www.pdfzone.com/survey.html <-- > To Sub/Unsub: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The PDFzone: "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > Is there a way to automatically convert existing latex references (e.g. > between terms in the text and the glossar or between headings and the table > of contents) > to links in a pdf file? > > Thanks, in advance, for any clues > > > s > > Sonja Branskat > Lehrgebiet Praktische Informatik II > FernUniversitat Hagen > 58084 Hagen > Germany > +49 (02331) 987 2845 > > sonja.branskat@fernuni-hagen.de > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 8:52:20-GMT,2924;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA05389 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:52:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA14400; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:41:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:38:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14266; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:38:09 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA4DB.FBF2D330.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: Antwort: [PDF] html2ps problem Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:35:33 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Hello, first, thanx for replying. I run Activeware perl because I wanted to avoid compiling the whole thing (I am no programmer). I checked and that posix module is indeed missing. Of course, puting a 0-byte file with the required name only causes the error message to disappear but not the problem. As for win-posix: I checked NT docs and NT is said to be fully POSIX compliant (but again, NT is also said to work :) So I believe I'll have to find another perl binary or --geez-- compile it myself. Thanx, Jernej On Monday, June 29, 1998 12:29 PM, Laura.Dietz@arcor.net [SMTP:Laura.Dietz@arcor.net] wrote: > > > Hi Jernej > > As far as I know is posix a module for scriptlanguages to interact with the > unix platform. I guess there is no posix for win..... > > Regards, > Laura Dietz > (Mannesmann Arcor) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > > > Not a clue, as you haven't told us what modules it can't find and if > those modules are actually there or not. It sounds as though your Perl > installation is incomplete and/or old; you could fix both of these > problems by grabbing the latest Perl sources and compiling them. > > Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > > > hello, > when converting html to postscript this perl script writes it can't find > some posix module. i run perl from activeware on win nt 4, sp 3. what is > the cause and what are remedies, if any? > thanx in advance, > Jernej > > > > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 8:53:10-GMT,2134;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA05410 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:53:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA14340; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:39:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:36:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14180; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:36:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:14 +0100 Message-ID: <5856-Wed01Jul1998093114+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] latex -> pdf In-Reply-To: <01BDA4D9.1009FB30.jernej@4u.net> References: <01BDA4D9.1009FB30.jernej@4u.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Jernej Zajc writes: > > Also, a tex specialist once told me inter- and intradocument pointers are > no big deal for tex and are rendered in PDF using a latex macro which > creates them with PDFmark. > people interested in what TeX can do with PDF might like to look at the sample files at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ These were all created with pdfTeX, which writes PDF directly. Given that you need no copy of Distiller to use it, that it runs on more or less any computer system, and that it lets you do as much as (and more than) pdfmarks + Distiller, anyone TeX-inclined would be mad to miss it. Sebastian _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 9:18:13-GMT,2072;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05801 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:18:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA14921; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:59:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:56:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14818; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:56:48 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: Antwort: [PDF] html2ps problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 10:35:33 +0200." <01BDA4DB.FBF2D330.jernej@4u.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 09:56:40 +0100 Message-ID: <459.899283400@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 10:35:33 +0200, Jernej Zajc wrote: > Hello, > > first, thanx for replying. > I run Activeware perl because I wanted to avoid compiling the whole thing > (I am no programmer). I checked and that posix module is indeed missing. Of The perl 5.004_04 (the latest stable version) README.win32 mentions that the Activeware port used to be the only native port for the Win32 platform, but that perl 5.004_04 now supports Win32 out of the box. So the Activeware port is not required any more for Windows NT. > So I believe I'll have to find another perl binary or --geez-- compile it > myself. Compiling perl is part of the spirit of perl, apparently. But I'm sure there are binaries around anyway. Chris _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 12:49:13-GMT,3228;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09443 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20738; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:19:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:17:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20538; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:17:00 -0500 Message-ID: <359A2890.FDA374EB@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 08:16:16 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Quality of graphics References: <3.0.32.19980701103253.009a1eb0@abirnet.co.il> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Susan wrote: > > I understand that there is a trade-off involved in pdf as far as graphics > are concerned - you can't get good screen results and good printed results. > Is this correct? Absolutely not! Often problems of this nature are low-res (~72dpi) images, typically screen captures, being displayed at resolutions other than their captured resolution. In any viewing environment, including Acrobat, this will look bad. This is why browsers always view raster data at 100%. Thus the problem is not Acrobat per se but is really a phenomenon of low-resolution output devices. Would 72dpi line art look good at 100% on a 96dpi printer? No, and for the same reason. How to address the problem? This is subjective, but IMHO... Best: redraw or trace simple line art as vector art and redistill; Acrobat will render the art on-the-fly at any aspect ratio and you will be able to zoom in and out and really love the results. Next best: always view the art at 100% (i.e. captured resolution) within Acrobat; in a lot of cases, an authoring application will assume 100% is 96dpi, while Acrobat assumes 100% is 72dpi; therefore, 96 / 72 = 133% is the magic zoom percentage to view at. Next best: work with the file in an application like PhotoShop and anti-alias the lines; this will make their presentation on the screen more acceptable with an associated quality hit in print, specifically that small amounts of halftone dot will be created where anti-aliasing was done. In all cases, choose your compression method in Acrobat according to the type of image you have and what your quality requirements are. In particular, for screen captures with high contrast and/or line art, use a non-lossy compression like LZW for the first two approaches. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 13:46:47-GMT,2322;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10639 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:46:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22536; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:03:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:00:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22447; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:00:54 -0500 Message-ID: <004401bda4f0$4b5c7a20$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] extended graphics errors... Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:00:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Well, in case anyone else has been getting errors similar to what I discussed yesterday.... to review, after using compose to combine two pdfs (one with a color fill in it), I get the error upon opening "Could not find the Extended Graphics State named 'GS1'." Noone responded with a fix for it so I decided to try my usual fix for problems with PDFs... open it in Wordpad and remove the offending tag, in this case, the "/GS1" I also removed the "gs" that followed it for good measure. Upon opening in Acrobat exchange, it says "file is damaged but is being repaired" then I saved the "repaired" file and all is well (except it gave me an error for extended state GS2... so I took care of that with the same method... now all is well.... the Moral of this story? Never be afraid to make a back-up copy and edit it in WordPad :) -Brett _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 14:23:38-GMT,1662;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11365 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:23:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25688; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:07:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:02:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25026; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:02:03 -0500 Message-ID: <359A33D5.A96AD25F@realworld.com.au> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 00:04:41 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? References: <88256632.00501240.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Like the URL's you have already done simply select a weblink from the link or form tool and in the URL type" mailto: namerequired@whicheverwebsite.com Dean _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 14:24:09-GMT,2104;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11381 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:24:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25691; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:07:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:04:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25304; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:04:23 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Viewing quality - PDF writer vs. dist assistant Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:53:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Hi Anyone know why the display quality of a PDF produced from Word (v. 7 - win 95) using PDF Writer is so much better than that produced using Distiller Assistant or Distiller print drivers? The text is much more evenly rendered in the "Save as PDF" file, especially underlines. And, anyone know why one receives distilling errors with the new PS 4.23 driver and the new ADISTILL.ppd set up as a printer called Acrobat Distiller 3.0 printing to /Distasst printer port? It finally worked when I changed the postscript properties in the printer to pure binary. Is this the correct setting for all postscript printers using AdobePS? I already have it set for "optimize for portability" thx - Rebecca _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 15:00:14-GMT,2360;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12213 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:00:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27973; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:39:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:36:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27772; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:36:53 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Viewing quality - PDF writer vs. dist assistant Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:34:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bda4fd$93afe020$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com > > And, anyone know why one receives distilling errors with the > new PS 4.23 > driver and the new ADISTILL.ppd set up as a printer called Acrobat > Distiller 3.0 printing to /Distasst printer port? > > It finally worked when I changed the postscript properties in the > printer to pure binary. Is this the correct setting for all > postscript > printers using AdobePS? > You should make sure you don't use the TBCP or BCP settings. These include escape characters that Distiller does not correctly process. The error messages you get from this are often bizarre but may include "undefined" or "typecheck - ashow". Please post detailed Distiller errors if you want any detailed help, though, there are million and one possible causes. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 16:08:24-GMT,2186;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13777 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:08:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32366; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:53:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:50:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32145; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:50:42 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256634.00572D06.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:58:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Thanks for the reply. I also heard from Kurt about this. It's certainly a simple thing. Even though I have created some very simple html pages and used this link, I didn't think about using it in PDF. I'm not real imaginative!!! SueG Dean Laffan on 07/01/98 06:04:41 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? Like the URL's you have already done simply select a weblink from the link or form tool and in the URL type" mailto: namerequired@whicheverwebsite.com Dean _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 17:55:05-GMT,3093;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16247 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:55:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04277; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:30:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:27:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04122; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:27:50 -0500 Message-ID: <359A718A.69623415@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 13:27:38 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Quality of graphics References: <3.0.32.19980701103253.009a1eb0@abirnet.co.il> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA04119 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com What res are your graphics and what kind are they. Tiff is the best overall solution in 24bit or 8bit color depth? 75dpi is the norm res for Windows. Also, word is not a page layout app and does not handle images with any real grace. Bob Moran Susan wrote: > Hi all > > History: > Using Windows NT, converting Word doc to PDF, lots of graphics in doc, > using Acrobat 3.0 Distiller. > > Problem: the graphics are horrible on screen, but print okay. BUT, there is > a lot of white space surrounding the text (the page size in Word is A5). > I've tried various combinations of page sizes etc, but nothing helps. > > If I use PDF writer to do the conversion, the page fits properly, but the > graphics are horrible on screen and when printed. > > I understand that there is a trade-off involved in pdf as far as graphics > are concerned - you can't get good screen results and good printed results. > Is this correct? > > Any suggestions? This is quite urgent! > > Thanks in advance > Susan > please reply to > susan@abirnet.co.il > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 17:55:32-GMT,1726;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16255 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:55:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03857; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:20:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:16:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03672; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:16:50 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4BC88098C5DDCF11A5E40000F8014BA7014F8953@mshmshois1p.mss.tva.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:19:52 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Quoting Digests; was Re: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for June-30-98 [V2 #257] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com To all subscribers of the digest: PLEASE, PLEASE, do make sure that you DO NOT QUOTE the whole digest when replying to a message. Also, please edit the Subject line of your message to indicate to which message you are answering/commenting. Thank you very much Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 18:22:30-GMT,1465;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16899 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:22:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06197; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:08:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:06:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06045; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:06:02 -0500 Message-ID: <4BC88098C5DDCF11A5E40000F8014BA7014F895E@mshmshois1p.mss.tva.gov> From: "Norman, James Dan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Apologies Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:05:54 -0400 Sensitivity: Private MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com I apologize to everyone for the inadvertent inclusion of digest materials in my message. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 18:42:50-GMT,2486;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17339 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:42:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05301; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:51:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:48:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05132; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:48:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: "McClure, Mary M" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Distiller PPD and Duplexing Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:48:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA05129 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Has anybody tried modifying the Distiller PPD (ADISTILL.PPD) so that it will support duplexing? I know that providing duplex functionality is ridiculous for a PPD designed to generate PostScript tailored with an eye towards distilling. But we'd like to have our writers stick to one PPD during all of their development. If we let them use a duplex-capable PPD (such as one designed for the HP IV SI we use to print draft copies) and then tell them they have to switch to the Distiller PPD before they print for PDF production, we are concerned their page breaks might change and throw the table of contents and index out of sync. But if we tell them to always use the Distiller PPD they're going to complain about losing their duplex capability on their draft copies. What to do? Does the Distiller PPD really provide significant advantages to the distilling process over other PPDs? Mary McClure CD-ROM Technology Unisys Corporation Mary.McClure@Unisys.com (949) 380-6140 Net˛ 656-6140 _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 18:43:57-GMT,3733;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17364 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:43:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07424; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:33:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:30:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07283; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:30:24 -0500 From: "Randy Stoltz" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quality of graphics Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:29:57 -0400 Message-Id: <000201bda51e$3fa43550$0f01080a@waterspout.pc.sas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <359A718A.69623415@kiwi.futuris.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com With MS Word on Windows the best graphics format to use is generally WMF (Windows meta file) or BMP for raster images. All of the graphics filters in word interpret the file and convert it to Words internal format with the exception of EPS. EPS files are embedded in the document and will only print on PostScript printers. But if you want your graphics to look exactly like you created them use EPS with the text stored as text and not curves. If you are importing formats other than EPS Word may substitute fonts without warning you and change the look of your image. If the text is changing in appearance when you create the PDF it could be a font substitution problem. WMF files need to be created with the header and text should not be converted to curves. If you can use the zoom tool to enlarge the graphic in the PDF and it looks OK it could be that your screen resolution is too low to reproduce the image at its current size. If you enlarge it and it looks worse you are probably downsampling the image too much with Distiller. With word I find that I need to set the downsampling up to at least 150 - 250 to produce decent looking graphics in a PDF. Many Windows machines have an actual dpi of 92 - 110 and if you down sample to 72 dpi (acrobats default) the images loose a lot of detail. Hope this is some help. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Robert E. Moran Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 1:28 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Quality of graphics What res are your graphics and what kind are they. Tiff is the best overall solution in 24bit or 8bit color depth? 75dpi is the norm res for Windows. Also, word is not a page layout app and does not handle images with any real grace. Bob Moran Susan wrote: > Hi all > > History: > Using Windows NT, converting Word doc to PDF, lots of graphics in doc, > using Acrobat 3.0 Distiller. > > Problem: the graphics are horrible on screen, but print okay. BUT, there is > a lot of white space surrounding the text (the page size in Word is A5). > I've tried various combinations of page sizes etc, but nothing helps. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 19:00:13-GMT,1525;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17825 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:00:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07922; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:43:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:41:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07800; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:41:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199807011841.KAA27372@alaska.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Apologies Date: Wed, 1 Jul 98 10:44:04 -0800 x-sender: dtak@mailhost.alaska.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: dtak To: "pdf lists" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com >I apologize to everyone for the inadvertent inclusion of digest materials in >my message. No need to apologize, it happens. The Black Helicopters have been recalled... Dave _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 20:59:13-GMT,1845;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20598 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:59:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13901; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:40:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:37:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13653; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:37:01 -0500 Message-ID: <6B5C8C4247FCCF1189AF0080D88002AA01C980B6@hrserv2> From: "Perry, Robert" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] IE and Forms problems Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:36:45 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com I'm having lots of problems with PDF forms on IE. They work fine in Netscape but not IE. My 2 most irritating problems now are: 1. If I remove security from the PDF that will make most PDFs work on IE. 2. The forms reside on 2 servers. Some forms will display fine on the New Jersey server but will cause an error msg (usually "There was a problem reading this page") on the Orlando server. Anybody have a clue as to what's going on? -Bob Perry -ATT Corporate Forms Library _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Jul-1998 21:52:34-GMT,7694;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21952 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16414; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:36:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:33:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16308; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:33:21 -0500 Message-ID: <004b01bda538$19b84420$5304a4c6@delman.nbtel.nb.ca> From: delman@nbnet.nb.ca (delman) To: Subject: [PDF] size doc info fields Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:34:19 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01BDA51E.DBF65DC0"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BDA51E.DBF65DC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0046_01BDA51E.DBF65DC0" ------=_NextPart_001_0046_01BDA51E.DBF65DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable July 1 1998 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- When using the PDF macro in Word, I enter lots of text into the Subject = field of the Document Info dialog. After cataloging, then running a = query in Exchange I can only successfully query 62 characters in the = Subject field. If I save a doc. in Exchange, the Subject field holds 255 characters. Is there a way to increase the Subject field's size when prompted by the = PDF Writer macro? ------=_NextPart_001_0046_01BDA51E.DBF65DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

 

July 1 1998

When using the PDF macro in Word, I enter lots of text into the = Subject field=20 of the Document Info dialog. After cataloging, then running a query in = Exchange=20 I can only successfully query 62 characters in the Subject field.

If I save a doc. in Exchange, the Subject field holds 255 = characters.

Is there a way to increase the Subject field's size when prompted by = the PDF=20 Writer macro?

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Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:25:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17925; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:11:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:08:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17788; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:08:17 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256634.007913A4.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:07:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] IE and Forms problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com That is why I dumped IE4 in favor of Communicator. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 2:05:27-GMT,6323;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27343 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:05:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25103; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:23:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:20:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25020; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:20:51 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA59A.8AA11100@min.minmet.com.au> From: Min Chen To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] IE and Forms problems Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:19:34 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDA59A.8AA11100" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDA59A.8AA11100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had similar problems on IE when I used NAMED DESTINATION which allows = go to a particular page in html. It only works with Netscape. The blame = should not go to IE, Adobe did't make it work for IE. Only solution is = waiting for next version of Acrobat, or dump IE. -----Original Message----- From: Perry, Robert [SMTP:bperry@hrserv2.ims.att.com] Sent: Thursday, 2 July 1998 4:37 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] IE and Forms problems I'm having lots of problems with PDF forms on IE. They work fine in Netscape but not IE.=20 My 2 most irritating problems now are: 1. If I remove security from the PDF that will make most PDFs work on IE.=20 2. The forms reside on 2 servers. Some forms will display fine on the New Jersey server but will cause an error msg (usually "There was a problem reading this page") on the Orlando server. 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Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:13:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA02232; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 01:00:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:57:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02095; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:57:41 -0500 X-Sender: vdesign@pop.actrix.gen.nz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:57:13 +1200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: vertigo design Subject: [PDF] word documents to pdf Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Hi I am new to pdfs and may have to put research papers on a cd-rom using acrobat for a client. What would be the best file format for the authors to send their information in as? Can you convert word 5.1/word 6.0 documents to pdf files or is there a plug-in for acrobat that can do this. I know this is probably a very stupid question and has probably already been asked a million times but would be grateful for anyone's input! Thanks Vertigo Design 82-88 Dixon Street PO Box 11-311 Wellington ph. (04) 384-9640 fax. (04) 384 8123 www.vertigo.co.nz _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 6:14:36-GMT,2493;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA02664 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:14:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA32715; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:52:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:49:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA32587; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:49:11 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA585.3291EEE0@pC19F8979.dip.t-online.de> To: "'PDF-List'" Subject: AW: [PDF] size doc info fields Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 06:25:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: 0211682900-0001@t-online.de From: tm_consult@t-online.de (Thomas Mueller) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id XAA32584 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com I would suggest to use Acrobat Distiller with pdfmarks. If you have Winword of office 97, look for the macro pdfmaker at Adobe's WWW site. Regards Tom + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Thomas Mueller Author and Consultant for Digital Communication P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html ---------- Von: delman Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Juli 1998 23:34 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: [PDF] size doc info fields July 1 1998 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When using the PDF macro in Word, I enter lots of text into the Subject field of the Document Info dialog. After cataloging, then running a query in Exchange I can only successfully query 62 characters in the Subject field. If I save a doc. in Exchange, the Subject field holds 255 characters. Is there a way to increase the Subject field's size when prompted by the PDF Writer macro? _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 9:45:24-GMT,2622;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06592 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:45:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07738; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 04:14:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 04:11:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07529; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 04:11:43 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:21:07 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] extended graphics errors... In-Reply-To: <004401bda4f0$4b5c7a20$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com In message <004401bda4f0$4b5c7a20$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com>, brett patane wrote: >in case anyone else has been getting errors similar to what I discussed >yesterday.... to review, after using compose to combine two pdfs (one with a >color fill in it), I get the error upon opening "Could not find the Extended >Graphics State named 'GS1'." I don't use Compose so don't know how it does the combination. It sounds like one PDF is merged into another and that Compose does not merge all the required resources -- graphics states came in with Acrobat 3 so it should be okay on Acrobat 2.1 files. You need to send a bug report to Ambia. Needless to say, plug-ins developed for our clients' have coped with graphics states for some time... David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 9:45:33-GMT,2936;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06600 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:45:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07739; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 04:14:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 04:11:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07508; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 04:11:41 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:16:59 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] size doc info fields In-Reply-To: <004b01bda538$19b84420$5304a4c6@delman.nbtel.nb.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com In message <004b01bda538$19b84420$5304a4c6@delman.nbtel.nb.ca>, delman wrote: >When using the PDF macro in Word, I enter lots of text into the Subject field of >the Document Info dialog. After cataloging, then running a query in Exchange I >can only successfully query 62 characters in the Subject field. > >If I save a doc. in Exchange, the Subject field holds 255 characters. > >Is there a way to increase the Subject field's size when prompted by the PDF >Writer macro? The document information fields can be up to 64KB long but the problem is that the Acrobat dialogue is limited to 255 characters. You could get someone to write a simple plug-in that increased this limit, but it sounds like you would be better using some Word macros to put the Subject field from the document straight into the PDF. It will be much easier than typing or cut and paste! You will need to use Word macros such as Adobe's PDFMaker macros to output the fields into the PostScript with pdfmark commands, then just distill the file. See http://www.adobe.com/ for more details. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 1:49:56-GMT,2789;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA27054 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:49:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24115; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:03:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:00:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23932; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:00:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:00:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199807020100.SAA07657@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 13:06:54-GMT,2126;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09977 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:06:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13874; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:38:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:34:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13689; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:34:54 -0500 Message-ID: <359B7E43.64720587@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 08:34:11 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] size doc info fields References: <004b01bda538$19b84420$5304a4c6@delman.nbtel.nb.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com > delman wrote: > > When using the PDF macro in Word, I enter lots of text into the Subject field > of the Document Info dialog. After cataloging, then running a query in > Exchange I can only successfully query 62 characters in the Subject field. > > If I save a doc. in Exchange, the Subject field holds 255 characters. > > Is there a way to increase the Subject field's size when prompted by the PDF > Writer macro? You don't mention how much data is stored in the Subject field of the PDF created by PDFMaker, only how much you can query. Does all the data make it into the field? If so, then your problem is probably Search, not PDFMaker. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 15:07:36-GMT,2926;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12501 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:07:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19434; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:39:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:33:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19085; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:33:36 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256635.004FFD79.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:41:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] word documents to pdf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Virtually any document you can print can be converted to PDF. Just open the document, select print to file, use distiller to open the resulting .ps file, and create PDF. If you want to make sure that the documents are cleanly formatted before you convert them, I would suggest that you have the documents sent in their native Word format. Because of the differences in system configurations and printer drivers, documents will often print differently from different computers. Open each one and scroll through them, if necessary,set correct page and column breaks, then print to file. SueG vertigo design on 07/01/98 10:57:13 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] word documents to pdf Hi I am new to pdfs and may have to put research papers on a cd-rom using acrobat for a client. What would be the best file format for the authors to send their information in as? Can you convert word 5.1/word 6.0 documents to pdf files or is there a plug-in for acrobat that can do this. I know this is probably a very stupid question and has probably already been asked a million times but would be grateful for anyone's input! Thanks Vertigo Design 82-88 Dixon Street PO Box 11-311 Wellington ph. (04) 384-9640 fax. (04) 384 8123 www.vertigo.co.nz _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 15:08:15-GMT,3351;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12524 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:08:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19533; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:40:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:38:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19365; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:38:37 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256635.004FA520.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:35:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Quality of graphics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Susan: I've discovered that the best way to include screen captures in Acrobat files is by capturing with the Print Scrn key and then pasting the image into Adobe Photoshop. As long as the image is in RGB mode, you can choose File|Save a Copy and save as PDF. If the image is left at a 1:1 ratio, the result in Acrobat is nearly perfect. If you reduce the image size in Photoshop prior to saving, the result in Acrobat is slightly blurry. Thus far, this seems to be the best result one can hope for given the current standard quality of video drivers and graphics cards most PC workstations are given. Use Word for your text and the method described above for your captures or other graphics. You can insert the images by inserting pages into your Acrobat file. Hope this helps! --Karen L. Mibus New Media Analyst/Developer Key Services Corporation susan@abirnet.co.il on 07/01/98 03:32:53 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: [PDF] Quality of graphics Hi all History: Using Windows NT, converting Word doc to PDF, lots of graphics in doc, using Acrobat 3.0 Distiller. Problem: the graphics are horrible on screen, but print okay. BUT, there is a lot of white space surrounding the text (the page size in Word is A5). I've tried various combinations of page sizes etc, but nothing helps. If I use PDF writer to do the conversion, the page fits properly, but the graphics are horrible on screen and when printed. I understand that there is a trade-off involved in pdf as far as graphics are concerned - you can't get good screen results and good printed results. Is this correct? Any suggestions? This is quite urgent! Thanks in advance Susan please reply to susan@abirnet.co.il _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 15:42:26-GMT,3984;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13341 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:42:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21872; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:23:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:21:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21726; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:21:05 -0500 Message-ID: <359BA670.35E06583@aegisgroup.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 10:25:41 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, susan@abirnet.co.il Subject: Re: [PDF] Quality of graphics References: <85256635.004FA520.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Karen L Mibus wrote: > Susan: > I've discovered that the best way to include screen captures in Acrobat > files is by capturing with the Print Scrn key and then pasting the image > into Adobe Photoshop. As long as the image is in RGB mode, you can choose > File|Save a Copy and save as PDF. If the image is left at a 1:1 ratio, the > result in Acrobat is nearly perfect. If you reduce the image size in > Photoshop prior to saving, the result in Acrobat is slightly blurry. Try this: When you tell photoshop to reduce the SIZE of a 72 dpi screen cap, it does its best with the small amount of info contained in that 72 dpi image. It throws away whatever it has to to get the size you asked for, but there's only just so much there. Before reducing the size, increase the image RESOLUTION to 150 or 300. Now photoshop does its best (which is very good) at inventing new information, new pixels. (ONLY do this in RGB mode.) Run a sharpen filter once or twice on it, but don't worry if it looks a bit fuzzy. Now go back into the image size menu and enter the SIZE you are looking for--but also tell it to go down to 75 dpi (or straight to 72, or wherever you're going-I usually keep the res reductions at symetric intervals until I have to make the last little jump to the destination res. Seems to keep things from distorting.) Now photoshop has all kinds of info to play with when it changes the image SIZE, and it will do a pretty sharp job. If your concern is with best screen quality combined with best print quality, reduce images to 100 dpi. (or let Distiller downsample for you - I prefer to control it all myself in photoshop unless its a huge number of images.) This is enough to generate a decent print, and not so far from 72 to make the screen look too bad, and the user can zoom a level or two to see better on screen. PDF writer is for text only, use distiller for PDFs with graphics. In Susan's case, I think the best way is to save the finished image from photoshop somewhere, go back to word and insert that newly doctored image, print to file, and distill from there-if you are mixing text with graphics, that is. If you are just adding a new pdf page with nothing but an image on it, do as Karen suggests and save as pdf from photoshop, and add it in Exchange.By the way, when you are using a PC, you may find that the shareware utility SnagIt does a slightly better job of capturing the screen than using Prnt Scrn Dan Dilamarter ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 16:28:32-GMT,2212;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14449 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24392; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:13:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:10:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24259; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:10:49 -0500 Message-ID: <359BB0DF.6C289756@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 12:10:07 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Quality of graphics References: <85256635.004FA520.00@keybank.com> <359BA670.35E06583@aegisgroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Dan Dilamarter wrote: > > When you tell photoshop to reduce the SIZE of a 72 dpi screen cap, it does > its best with the small amount of info contained in that 72 dpi image. It > throws away whatever it has to to get the size you asked for, but there's only > just so much there. Before reducing the size, increase the image RESOLUTION to > 150 or 300. Now photoshop does its best (which is very good) at inventing new > information, new pixels. ...or don't resample at all by constraining file size and changing resolution (and therefore "size" to 96. Then, (I think) when placed in an application what assumes 96 dpi for output, the resulting PDF through Distiller should give good results at 100% on screen. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 16:37:28-GMT,2007;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14655 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:37:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25076; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:25:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:23:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24889; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:23:37 -0500 Message-ID: <359BB4AD.9871C437@i2000.es> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 18:26:21 +0200 From: Alvaro de la Hera Martinez Organization: Interlinea 2000 S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ListasPDF Subject: [PDF] Access JavaScript functions in Acrobat forms from JavaScript functions in Netscape Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Hello, Is it possible to call Javascript functions that are inside a PDF form from functions which are in an HTML page loaded in Netscape Navigator ? Thanks in advanced. -- A H | A H | Interlinea2000 Comunicaciones, S.A. AAAAHHHHMMMM | Kaskotegi 4, bajo A A M M | 20.305 Irun (Spain) AAAA M | Telephone: 34-43-619101 | Fax: 34-43-618159 Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 17:08:20-GMT,2254;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15456 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26320; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:51:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:48:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26142; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:48:28 -0500 Message-ID: <359BBAEF.5BF2E83F@aegisgroup.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 11:53:10 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Quality of graphics References: <000201bda51e$3fa43550$0f01080a@waterspout.pc.sas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com > Many Windows machines have an actual dpi of 92 - 110 and > if you down sample to 72 dpi (acrobats default) the images loose a lot of > detail. Hope this is some help. > > 75dpi is the norm res for Windows. > Also, > word is not a page layout app and does not handle images with any real > grace. > Hmm....I have always thought that all monitors for all platforms are manufactured to display a standard of 72 pixels per linear inch, which is why all web designers (I think ) know that web graphics are always res'd to 72 dpi. The only exception I am aware of is certain industrial specialty monitors for certain odd purposes. I don't think that screen res is a function of anything but the monitor-not affected by the OS. Am I mistaken?? Dan Dilamarter _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 17:59:46-GMT,2727;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16896 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:59:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27714; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:22:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:19:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27582; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:19:23 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quality of graphics Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:14:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bda5dd$6ed43b80$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <359BBAEF.5BF2E83F@aegisgroup.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com > Hmm....I have always thought that all monitors for all platforms are > manufactured to display a standard of 72 pixels per linear > inch, which is why > all web designers (I think ) know that web graphics are > always res'd to 72 dpi. > The only exception I am aware of is certain industrial > specialty monitors for > certain odd purposes. I don't think that screen res is a > function of anything > but the monitor-not affected by the OS. Am I mistaken?? > Dan Dilamarter Perhaps I'm missing something, but I think you are mistaken. Consider, in Windows a 14" screen has perhaps 10" visible width (variable). This might be run at 1024 x 768 pixels, giving 102.4 dpi. The same screen run at 640 x 480 gives 64 dpi. Now let's take a 21" screen with 15" visible width. This might run at 1600 x 1200, giving 107 dpi. Or, if run at 600 x 800 it gives 40 dpi. So talking about 72 dpi or 90 dpi for screen resolution is just a convenient fiction; because most graphics types have to have SOME number included for resolution, and these are as good as any. Some file formats like GIF have no resolution, and applications like Photoshop pick a number when you open them. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 18:31:07-GMT,2983;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17726 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:31:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29809; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:16:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:13:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29679; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:13:47 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256635.0063444B.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:10:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] IE and Forms problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Bob Perry: We are also having problems with Acrobat Forms in IE, especially IE 4.01. At present, we cannot make a confirmation window appear after the user clicks the Submit button. Also, the Submit button only seems to work in IE 3+ with the Form Fill-in plug-in installed in the Reader. It was suggested that I try the latest OCX fix from Adobe (sent to me by Adobe's Tech Support, it's more current than the one available from their Web site) but it did not resolve the problem. Adobe is aware of problems with Forms in IE 4+. You may want to consider adding your problem to their list. Also, you may want to verify that your audience has installed the Forms Fill-In plug-in. --Karen L. Mibus Key Services Corporation bperry@hrserv2.ims.att.com on 07/01/98 04:36:45 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: [PDF] IE and Forms problems I'm having lots of problems with PDF forms on IE. They work fine in Netscape but not IE. My 2 most irritating problems now are: 1. If I remove security from the PDF that will make most PDFs work on IE. 2. The forms reside on 2 servers. Some forms will display fine on the New Jersey server but will cause an error msg (usually "There was a problem reading this page") on the Orlando server. Anybody have a clue as to what's going on? -Bob Perry -ATT Corporate Forms Library _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 2-Jul-1998 23:33:53-GMT,2822;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24898 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:33:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09562; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:19:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:16:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09443; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:16:51 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:11:07 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] word documents to pdf Cc: vertigo design Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Vertigo, Looking around a bit in the Acrobat section of the Adobe website can give you a bit of an impression what Acrobat can do, and how it works. It depends on what your client expects about links and other interactive features of the documents. If it is just plain paper in electronic form, you should be able to work with Word. If more is needed, you will need some additional plug-ins (there are representatives for some of them on the list), or you may need a more appropriate tool to do the layout etc., such as Framemaker. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Hi > >I am new to pdfs and may have to put research papers on a cd-rom using >acrobat for a client. > >What would be the best file format for the authors to send their >information in as? > >Can you convert word 5.1/word 6.0 documents to pdf files or is there a >plug-in for acrobat that can do this. > >I know this is probably a very stupid question and has probably already >been asked a million times but would be grateful for anyone's input! > >Thanks > > >Vertigo Design _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 3-Jul-1998 0:09:21-GMT,1856;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25570 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:09:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11011; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:59:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:57:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10914; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:57:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980702165506.01ee9800@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca> X-Sender: rgutter@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 16:55:06 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Richard Gutter Subject: [PDF] Sticky PDF printer driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Having used PDFwriter (3.01) with Winword 7 to create a PDF, I find I cannot convince NOTEPAD that my network laser printer is indeed once again the default! All other programs seem to understand this, but in order to print anything using NOTEPAD I have to go through the File | Page Setup | Printer hoop and select my (default!) printer by name. Re-installing Acrobat 3.01 doesn't help. Has anyone seen anything like this and have any suggestions to offer? TIA _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 3-Jul-1998 3:58:20-GMT,2524;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA29635 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:58:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18076; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:40:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:37:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17880; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:37:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'Acrobat list post'" Subject: [PDF] Irritating Link Problem Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:39:31 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Visit 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Folks - I need some help here! We have been experiencing some problems linking PDF files in Acrobat 3.01 (NT 4) between servers. We have the requirement to link PDF files from (eg) SERVER1 to SERVER2. We create the links from FILEA.PDF on \\SERVER1\PATH\FILEA.PDF to \\SERVER2\PATH\FILEB.PDF using either method of linking (Go To View and Open File). Regardless of the method that we use, the links just don't work. On another machine connected in exactly the same way using Reader (or Exchange) we get the following error messages when clicking the link: A _Go To View_ Link- There was an error while performing an action. Invalid file specification object. A _Open File_ - Could not open the specified file '/server1/path/subpath/subpath/subpath/subpath/file.pdf' What do we need to do in order to get Go To View or OPEN File to simply use relative pathing (../../) instead of what seems to be more like Absolute pathing (/server1/path/........)? Similar threads have appeared in this forum but nothing that solves this problem. I would appreciate any help on this one - and electronic beer is on offer :) .. d...................... _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 3-Jul-1998 16:55:46-GMT,2028;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14293 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 10:55:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06744; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:36:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:28:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06402; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:28:04 -0500 Message-ID: <19980703163618.20522.rocketmail@web2.rocketmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:36:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Iain Gibson Subject: [PDF] Speed of Printer Spooling To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The product that we produce uses pdf documents in many cases. Unfortunately most of our clients don't like Acrobat because when printing them it "freezes there computer" ie the small gray box that spools the document stays on screen. I guess this problem is because the files are a bit unwieldy but I have no way to optimise the content without making them defunct. Is there any other way short of upgrading the clients computers or printers to get around this problem? TIA Iain === Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterward. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 4-Jul-1998 3:31:22-GMT,2298;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26084 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 21:31:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24997; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 22:14:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Jul 1998 22:09:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24838; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 22:09:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199807040308.UAA04467@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 20:08:45 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs ** remote ** Subject: Re: [PDF] Sticky PDF printer driver Cc: Richard Gutter In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980702165506.01ee9800@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 7/2/98 04:55 PM , you wrote: >Having used PDFwriter (3.01) with Winword 7 to create a PDF, I find I cannot convince NOTEPAD that my network laser printer is indeed once again the default! All other programs seem to understand this, but in order to print anything using NOTEPAD I have to go through the File | Page Setup | Printer hoop and select my (default!) printer by name. > >Re-installing Acrobat 3.01 doesn't help. Has anyone seen anything like this and have any suggestions to offer? > >TIA This is a bug that has nothing to do with PDFWriter. I have seen it with any and all drivers in conjunction with Notepad (and maybe one or two other similar apps). Sometimes changing the default printer back and forth from one printer to another results in the symptom going away. - Dov _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 5-Jul-1998 3:00:55-GMT,2082;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19650 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 21:00:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA30722; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 21:39:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Jul 1998 21:29:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA30304; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 21:29:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 20:29:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199807050229.UAA22804@srv1.thuntek.net> X-Sender: dgordon@thuntek.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David Gordon Subject: [PDF] Newby Basic question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I am brand new to this list and the world of PDF. My question is: If I have a large document (300 pages) that is currently if TIFF format, how large would the PDF file be? I am trying to limit bandwith and download time. They are all in one subdirectory as individual files. The current directory size is 18.3 meg because it was scanned at 300 dpi. I could rescan it at 200 if necessary. Also, in order to batch process this directory, would I need Capture 2.0? Any help would be appreciated. David Gordon (505) 281-9789 david@thuntek.net http:\\www.litsupport.com When I die I want to go peacefully like my grandfather did. In his sleep. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 5-Jul-1998 9:57:46-GMT,2277;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26764 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 03:57:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08612; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 04:36:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Jul 1998 04:33:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08512; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 04:33:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980705124548.009ac100@abirnet.co.il> X-Sender: susan@abirnet.co.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 12:45:54 +0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Subject: [PDF] Re: Quality of graphics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Just a quick note to thank everyone who answered my email. Thanks Susan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- I wrote: Hi all History: Using Windows NT, converting Word doc to PDF, lots of graphics in doc, using Acrobat 3.0 Distiller. Problem: the graphics are horrible on screen, but print okay. BUT, there is a lot of white space surrounding the text (the page size in Word is A5). I've tried various combinations of page sizes etc, but nothing helps. If I use PDF writer to do the conversion, the page fits properly, but the graphics are horrible on screen and when printed. I understand that there is a trade-off involved in pdf as far as graphics are concerned - you can't get good screen results and good printed results. Is this correct? Any suggestions? This is quite urgent! Thanks in advance Susan please reply to susan@abirnet.co.il _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 5-Jul-1998 15:01:06-GMT,2640;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01271 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:01:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16467; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:39:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:36:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16375; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:36:00 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 08:35:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199807051435.IAA06500@srv1.thuntek.net> X-Sender: dgordon@thuntek.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David Gordon Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF stuff Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Guy, It is not Mac. It is PC/Windows. I don't know how to do postscript. I didn't know I got options as to what res I could get. They is in TIFF format (pic) if that helps. > >Difficult to estimate - as it is based on what res you wish the display to >be at, so very easy to do tests. . . i can for you if you wish . . . is it >mac ?? thats all i have ! Otherwise you could postscript it and send that. >What is the makeup of the doc ? pics ? text ? what application ?? Plural is correct. All individual files in a single directory on CD rom. > >when you say "they" it indicates to me "plural", but previously you >mentioned "a large doc" -- so is it 300 seperate pages or 1 doc ?? makes a >big difference, but both are quite straightforward. > I didn't know about Exchange. I think that is what I need, too. I am going to eventually have about 30,000 pages and maybe as many as 200,000 pages, so you can see I want to do this right. >I dont think so i just use Exchange, i thought capture was for scanning ?? >not too sure there. > Thanks in advance. David Gordon (505) 281-9789 david@thuntek.net http:\\www.litsupport.com When I die I want to go peacefully like my grandfather did. In his sleep. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 5-Jul-1998 17:24:10-GMT,2954;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03577 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 11:24:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20680; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 12:05:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Jul 1998 12:02:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20560; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 12:02:28 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 13:02:04 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDF stuff To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199807051302_MC2-5232-392@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA20557 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Re: Converting TIFF to PDF There is a decision to be made before to know what to long for: - if you need OCR to turn text in TIFF images into searchable text, Capture (and possib ly also some other solutions around) is the way to go (and for large numbers of pages/files, probably the Capture 2.0 version with its batch processing options etc.) - if you simply need to 'wrap' the TIFF files into PDF (so you can take advantage of the free Acrobat Reader for viewing and advanced compression yielding smaller files sizes) I'd recommend to wrap the TIFF pages/files into PostScript and run those through Acrobat Distiller. In case you do not feel like doing the wrappping into PostScript yourself, you might be interested in an update to our pdfToolbox due in autumn which will among other things offer batch conversion of TIFF to PDF (no OCR though!). Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 5-Jul-1998 19:09:13-GMT,3150;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05399 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 13:09:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23435; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 13:45:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Jul 1998 13:42:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23310; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 13:42:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199807051842.LAA14424@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 11:43:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Newby Basic question From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >I am brand new to this list and the world of PDF. My question is: If I >have a large document (300 pages) that is currently if TIFF format, how >large would the PDF file be? I am trying to limit bandwith and download >time. They are all in one subdirectory as individual files. The current >directory size is 18.3 meg because it was scanned at 300 dpi. I could >rescan it at 200 if necessary. > >Also, in order to batch process this directory, would I need Capture 2.0? > >Any help would be appreciated. > >David Gordon Unless you are willing to invest heavily in hardware, training, trial & error and are seeking to establish a continual stream of work - like a service bureau - I would recommend directing all of your questions to a reputable Capture bureau... like our hosts here at EMERGE. Adobe Capture can be very expensive in wasted time for those not in the business. Check out their questionnaire (http://www.emerge.pdfzone.com/pdfs/question.pdf), contact Glenn Gernert (mailto:ggernert@pdfzone.com) and specify your needs. Don't bother rescanning from 300 to 200dpi - you will probably get better accuracy from the higher dpi and your resulting file sizes will be about the same. How large your files will be depends on the text and vector graphics ratio vs. bitmap content of your originals. Lots of text and vectors with few bitmaps - maybe 10% of original size unless you made your scans really badly - then perhaps 1% of size. It will also depend on your end use for the documents. Scott PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 5-Jul-1998 22:41:03-GMT,3389;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08163 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 16:41:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29600; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 17:22:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Jul 1998 17:19:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29498; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 17:19:42 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E0A632B@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: Richard Crocker Subject: RE: [PDF] Newby Basic question Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:15:07 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com David, You could use RTSImport to import your 300 TIFF files into 300 PDFs. You could then either use PDFWorkshop or the "Merge files" VB code cuts on the RTS website to combine these files into one PDF. After having processed the files, you should then use the Capture plug-in to further process the PDF from image to text [where possible]. Assuming that the document comprises mainly text, then you should not need to rescan the document as the images will be converted to text by Capture. You can find the Visual Basic code cuts to merge files, and also demonstration versions of RTSImport and PDFWorkshop at http://www.roundtable.com.au/ regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions http://www.roundtable.com.au/ > -----Original Message----- > From: David Gordon [mailto:david@thuntek.net] > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 1998 3:29 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Newby Basic question > > > I am brand new to this list and the world of PDF. My > question is: If I > have a large document (300 pages) that is currently if TIFF > format, how > large would the PDF file be? I am trying to limit bandwith > and download > time. They are all in one subdirectory as individual files. > The current > directory size is 18.3 meg because it was scanned at 300 dpi. I could > rescan it at 200 if necessary. > > Also, in order to batch process this directory, would I need > Capture 2.0? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > David Gordon > > (505) 281-9789 > david@thuntek.net > http:\\www.litsupport.com > > When I die I want to go peacefully like my grandfather did. > In his sleep. > Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car. > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 5-Jul-1998 23:39:18-GMT,2268;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08994 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 17:39:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31610; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:23:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:20:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31513; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:20:29 -0500 From: Duff Johnson To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Newby Basic question Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 16:24:14 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Karl: I love your little app... "RTS Import". In fact, I've bought that and PDF Workshop from you months ago. One tweak the "Import" that would be fabulous would be to permit the automated collating of pages into documents. -- a la Capture's functionality, but without the click-charge! You already allow merging of files in PDF Workshop.....Why not associate the two functions programatically? You don't feature a code-cut for this functionality, that's why I ask.... regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010 Oakland, CA 94612 510-986-0250 FAX: 510-986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com www.document-solutions.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 2:18:35-GMT,7620;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11652 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 20:18:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03021; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 20:51:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Jul 1998 20:48:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02887; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 20:48:10 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA8C2.F967E7A0@min.minmet.com.au> From: Min Chen To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Newby Basic question Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:46:33 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDA8C2.F967E7A0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDA8C2.F967E7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi david, I convert a big amount of TIFF files to pdf file. Some files are more = than 50meg. Most files are slightly bigger than their origianl tiff = files after conversion, say about 20k, or 30k. It really depends on the = content of your tiff files. If the files you put on the internet for on line view, you can use adobe = byte serving technology to allow download one page a time. I wrote a VB program which use adobe printer driver to scan and convert = the Tiff in the directory and their subdirecotries to destination drive = with the matching directory and subdirectories. So far It works fine for = me, I leave program running overnight, and converted more than 1 giga = byte tiff files without problem.=20 regards, min chen -----Original Message----- From: David Gordon [SMTP:david@thuntek.net] Sent: Sunday, 5 July 1998 10:29 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Newby Basic question I am brand new to this list and the world of PDF. My question is: If I have a large document (300 pages) that is currently if TIFF format, how large would the PDF file be? I am trying to limit bandwith and download time. They are all in one subdirectory as individual files. The = current directory size is 18.3 meg because it was scanned at 300 dpi. I could rescan it at 200 if necessary. Also, in order to batch process this directory, would I need Capture = 2.0? Any help would be appreciated. David Gordon=09 (505) 281-9789 david@thuntek.net http:\\www.litsupport.com When I die I want to go peacefully like my grandfather did. In his = sleep. 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Sun, 5 Jul 1998 20:56:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04462; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 21:35:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Jul 1998 21:31:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04336; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 21:31:41 -0500 From: Duff Johnson To: Subject: OOOPS RE: [PDF] Newby Basic question Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 19:35:21 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Ooops, didn't mean that to go to the list.... _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 5:35:11-GMT,2215;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15123 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 23:35:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09119; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 00:11:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 00:07:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA08996; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 00:07:17 -0500 From: kikenoue@ykh.chiyoda.co.jp X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHIYODA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <49256639.001B8648.00@tmp.chiyoda.co.jp> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:03:01 +0900 Subject: [PDF] PDF on FileMakerPro Web Companion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I tried to view within Internet Explorer3.0 xxx.pdf on the homepage running on FileMakerPro Web Companion Webserver,but to no avail. Are there anyone who have successfully tried to view pdf files on FileMakerPro Web Companion? Please advise me wether Web Companion Webserver does not support byte-serving. If so, any suggestions on this workaround. My Current working environments are as follows: OS: windows95 (Client and server) Browser: MSIE3.0 Acrobat Exchanger: 3.0 FileMakerPro 4.0 Web Server: Companion In further detail, what I am trying to do is as described in the following steps: Step 1: Users search a URL of a specific pdf by FileMaker Pro, Step 2: Users then click any URL so searched to jump to the specific pdf. Step 3: Users view it within the IE browser window. Kiichi Ikenoue kikenoue@ykh.chiyoda.co.jp _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 7:37:02-GMT,1858;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17506 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:37:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12452; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 02:18:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 02:15:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12370; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 02:15:18 -0500 Message-ID: <1DEDB36E7720D111AEE800805F15085209F715@eugrax3.gra.eu.bp.com> From: "Purvis, Norman G" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Inactive Bookmarks Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:15:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Can anybody help ? I have been working on a series of pdf files, inserting bookmarks within each file for navigation and links between files. After a few files have been worked on, new bookmarks stop working. If I save the file, close acrobat and re-open the file, the bookmark facility will start working again. There doesn't seem to be any reason for this. Any ideas would be helpful. Regards, Norman Purvis <<...>> 01324-47(6821) E-) purvisn@bp.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 10:55:57-GMT,2199;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20955 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 04:55:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA17413; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 05:33:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 05:30:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17275; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 05:30:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980706123058.007d7a90@mail.tim.se> X-Sender: tim-jl@mail.tim.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 12:30:58 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "johan.leide" Subject: [PDF] Destination of DistAsst files? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I'm trying to put up a Distiller server where the users can choose Acrobat as a printer - print - wait - pick up the PDF from a specified folder on the server. I try to avoid having the users specifying the input or output folder. They should be able just to print and then wait for the file! The server is on a NT 3.2 and I'm presently using Distiller 3.02 with the distiller assistant set not to ask for a destination. This all works fine BUT the file is always saved to C:/ (root folder) Is there any way to specify the output folder with DistAsst without a user interference? BR Johan Leide Johan Leide Teknik i Media 040-97 33 10 0706-72 00 35 Http://www.tim.se johan.leide@tim.se Johan Leide Teknik i Media 040-97 33 10 0706-72 00 35 Http://www.tim.se johan.leide@tim.se _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 14:14:11-GMT,1997;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24449 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:14:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24919; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:54:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:51:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24788; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:51:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:54:07 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19980706100119.592f2078@mail.i95.net> X-Sender: dcbiker@mail.i95.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Harold Goldstein Subject: [PDF] deleting buttons (or any form item) copied to all pages in file Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com for buttons that were created in exchange in one page and then copied to, say, every other page in a file, is thee any way to delete some or all of the buttons or does it have to be done individually on each page? ___________________________________ Harold Goldstein - dcbiker@goldray.com ~~ ,__o ~^^ See the Goldpages: http://goldray.com/ ~_-\ < ,~ o \ Professor of Engineering/Internet Trainer (*)/ (*) ~ / { \ Help Save Them: http://biosynergy.org/bushmeat/ / { o} BIGFACE!!!!!!!!! http://bigface.com -- you will be released _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 14:14:31-GMT,2828;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24461 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:14:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24767; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:51:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:48:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24613; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:48:19 -0500 Message-ID: <35A0D632.C8C12C8F@pre-print.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 07:50:42 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDF stuff References: <199807051435.IAA06500@srv1.thuntek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Good morning David. If you want to take 30,000 to 200,000 pages from TIFF to PDF, then you want to change them from bitmap (or raster), which is what TIFF is, into vector, which is what PostScript and PDF do best with. This is why Capture is good. If most of your pages are text, you will want to use Capture or another Optical Character Reader (OCR) package to change the TIFF text into editable ASCII text. It will involve spellchecking and reformatting, but it will reduce your file sizes significantly; to get a readable page, a TIFF or PICT image must be at least 300 dpi. Even at that resolution it will be fuzzy compared to ASCII. It will also be in the area of 8 Mb (black and white) to 32 Mb (color) per single 8.5 x 11 page. With ASCII text (you can decide the font size style and layout, so we're not talking Courier) and vector graphics, you can end up with file sizes of under 1 Mb and under 100k per page. So, over even 30,000 pages, being conservative, you could be looking at 240 Mb for TIFFs versus under 10 Mb for Captured text and rebuilt graphics. If size is an issue, then you'll be wanting to capture the text. -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 16:39:43-GMT,1856;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28437 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:39:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32438; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:12:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:09:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32273; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:09:27 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF121FC9@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'Acrobat Talk Mailing List'" , "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:09:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We would like to know if there is any way of converting files in PDF format to Microsoft Word 7.0/Word for Windows 95 format. Gary E. Decker Information Services Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation 1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411 Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 Fax: (316) 364-4154 Pager: (785) 575-2588 or 7855752588@mobile.att.net E-mail: gadecke@wcnoc.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 16:49:19-GMT,2165;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28668 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:49:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00790; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:28:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:26:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00630; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:26:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980706092402.005d5650@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca> X-Sender: rgutter@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 09:24:02 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Richard Gutter Subject: Re: [PDF] Sticky PDF printer driver Cc: millercs@earthlink.net In-Reply-To: <199807040308.UAA04467@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> References: <3.0.5.32.19980702165506.01ee9800@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Thanks... tried that a long time ago, without success. I hadn't seen this problem before with any other driver, but you could well be right about it not being a PDFWriter issue. Guess I'll muck around with the Registry some more... Richard At 08:08 PM 07/03/98 -0700, Dov Isaacs ** remote ** wrote: > >This is a bug that has nothing to do with PDFWriter. I have seen >it with any and all drivers in conjunction with Notepad (and maybe >one or two other similar apps). Sometimes changing the default printer >back and forth from one printer to another results in the symptom going >away. > > - Dov _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 17:01:38-GMT,2654;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28961 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:01:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01230; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:37:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:34:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01079; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:34:16 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256639.005BA12E.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:42:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Not easily. With Capture 2.0 you can convert a PDF to a .doc format. However, the text and graphics come into the document in frames. Using RedWing you can add "text zones" and "table zones" to your PDF document and extract these to a wordprocessing application. But, even this is time consuming and requires some reformatting. SueG Decker Gary E on 07/06/98 09:09:15 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'Acrobat Talk Mailing List'" , "'PDF Mailing List'" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word We would like to know if there is any way of converting files in PDF format to Microsoft Word 7.0/Word for Windows 95 format. Gary E. Decker Information Services Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation 1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411 Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 Fax: (316) 364-4154 Pager: (785) 575-2588 or 7855752588@mobile.att.net E-mail: gadecke@wcnoc.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 18:06:51-GMT,2648;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00674 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04073; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:36:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:32:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03882; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:32:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:32:18 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Try in either Exchange or Reader: Edit -> Select All Edit -> Copy OR in Exchange just: Edit -> Copy File to Clipboard You now have the text on the clipboard ( and I think I read somewhere that it is in MS RTF ). Open Word and Edit -> Paste Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: Decker Gary E[SMTP:gadecke@WCNOC.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, July 06, 1998 9:09 AM > To: 'Acrobat Talk Mailing List'; 'PDF Mailing List' > Subject: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word > > We would like to know if there is any way of converting files in PDF > format to Microsoft Word 7.0/Word for Windows 95 format. > > Gary E. Decker > Information Services Analyst > Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation > 1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411 > Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA > Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 > Fax: (316) 364-4154 > Pager: (785) 575-2588 or 7855752588@mobile.att.net > E-mail: gadecke@wcnoc.com > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 18:18:05-GMT,1618;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00904 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:18:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05070; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:00:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:57:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04910; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:57:40 -0500 From: lp5@chrysler.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHRYSLER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256639.0061BAEC.00@lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:56:11 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Faxing PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Our FAX server does not support the faxing of PDF files - it supports only TIFF format. Is software available to convert PDF to TIFF? (I haven't been able to locate any.) Does anyone have any suggestions / ideas on how we can accomplish our faxing? THANK YOU. - Linda Pratt _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 18:29:12-GMT,1552;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01203 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:29:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05745; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:14:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:12:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05597; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:12:30 -0500 From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VANCPOWER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256639.0063C675.00@ojsmtpmta02.vapower.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:12:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Gary, You should check out Aerial from www.ambia.com for PDF to RTF. We would like to know if there is any way of converting files in PDF format to Microsoft Word 7.0/Word for Windows 95 format. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 19:14:18-GMT,2319;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02353 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:14:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08051; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:54:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:52:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07933; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:52:18 -0500 Message-ID: From: Bets Greer To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Faxing PDF files Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:56:04 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Along those lines, does anyone have experience faxing PDFs using RightFax? I'm looking for pearls of wisdom regarding usability. Are there things I should look out for? thanks, Bets Greer KNOWware, LLC > -----Original Message----- > From: lp5@chrysler.com [SMTP:lp5@chrysler.com] > Sent: Monday, July 06, 1998 10:56 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Faxing PDF files > > Our FAX server does not support the faxing of PDF files - it supports > only > TIFF format. Is software available to convert PDF to TIFF? (I > haven't > been able to locate any.) > > Does anyone have any suggestions / ideas on how we can accomplish our > faxing? THANK YOU. > > - Linda Pratt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 19:20:28-GMT,2049;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02480 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:20:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06238; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:21:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:19:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06070; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:19:18 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA8D1.07B86C40.jmaechtlen@amada.com> From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Faxing PDF files Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:27:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com In an older version of Micrografix Designer (like 3.x?) a utility was included for "print to TIFF", I believe. Something like that might do? -----Original Message----- From: lp5@chrysler.com [SMTP:lp5@chrysler.com] Sent: Monday, July 06, 1998 10:56 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Faxing PDF files Our FAX server does not support the faxing of PDF files - it supports only TIFF format. Is software available to convert PDF to TIFF? (I haven't been able to locate any.) Does anyone have any suggestions / ideas on how we can accomplish our faxing? THANK YOU. - Linda Pratt _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 19:20:53-GMT,2519;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02497 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:20:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07177; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:39:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:36:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07002; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:36:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199807061836.OAA08721@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> From: "Linda Bajumpaa" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:34:56 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Gary, I can attest to the fact that Aerial from Ambia works great exporting text from PDF right into RTF.... ---------- > From: Decker Gary E > To: 'Acrobat Talk Mailing List' ; 'PDF Mailing List' > Subject: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word > Date: Monday, July 06, 1998 12:09 PM > > We would like to know if there is any way of converting files in PDF > format to Microsoft Word 7.0/Word for Windows 95 format. > > Gary E. Decker > Information Services Analyst > Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation > 1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411 > Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA > Phone: (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 > Fax: (316) 364-4154 > Pager: (785) 575-2588 or 7855752588@mobile.att.net > E-mail: gadecke@wcnoc.com > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 19:21:28-GMT,15302;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02507 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:21:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05678; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:13:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:10:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05519; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:10:43 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA91A.18120580.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "PDF@lists. pdfzone. com (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] PageMaker font question Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 20:09:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDA91A.18169960" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDA91A.18169960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have a question regarding fonts: I distilled a PDF from a PageMaker pub and selected [Print] under PDF Style drop-down menu. This embeds all fonts in a PDF - if I understand the thing right - and renders embedded portions of text non-searchable. I use Slovene characters which, in addition to western alphabet, are e, ? and ?. Since characters in email often change I dared to attach a small PDF (9k) with letters and words for garlic, school and animal in Slovene. Fonts - times and helvetica - were embedded in the above described manner. Question: how come I get hits when searching for word ?ival (the third one), but not the first two? After all, ? (the second letter) is present in all western fonts so it shouldn't be embedded in the first place. Strange thing is also that when trying to modify western fonts using Fontographer I could produce a font containing E (the first letter), but not ? (the 3rd one). Please help me understand this since I'm a little confused. I also noticed (File|Document Info|Fonts...) that fonts are said to be Type 1 fonts. Oddly enough, I don't have any PS fonts on my machine (and don't have ATM installed) except for Exchange (c:\acrobat3\exchange\fonts), but file was produced using PM anyway. Config: PageMaker 6.52, the new Export PDF plugin (not the cumbersome one which comes with PM 6.5), Distiller 3.0, Win NT 4.0 (build 1381, SP3, with Slovene regional settings set as "Default System Locale"). 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majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07022; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:36:46 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980706183719.00d7f5a0@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 11:37:19 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Faxing PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The easiest way is usually to print the PDF document from Acrobat, selecting your Fax "printer" as the destination. Tom Thiersch At 01:56 PM 7/6/98 -0400, you wrote: >Our FAX server does not support the faxing of PDF files - it supports only >TIFF format. Is software available to convert PDF to TIFF? (I haven't >been able to locate any.) > >Does anyone have any suggestions / ideas on how we can accomplish our >faxing? THANK YOU. > >- Linda Pratt > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 19:08:06-GMT,1593;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02199 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:08:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07481; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:43:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:41:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07274; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:41:32 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: VENTURA-D@PLAZA.INVENTIV-EDU.NL Message-ID: <88256639.00663E13.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:40:46 -0700 Subject: [PDF] HTML - question (off topic) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I know this question is off topic, but I need help fast. I had an HTML question and specifically using FrontPage 98. If anyone is an HTML whiz and is willing to help, please email me personally off the list. Thanks, Rob _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 20:06:54-GMT,2254;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03659 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:06:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10476; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:42:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:39:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10258; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:39:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Faxing PDF files Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:40:53 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1312390059-20571807@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com lp5@chrysler.com (lp5@chrysler.com) wrote on 7/6/98 10:56 AM: >Our FAX server does not support the faxing of PDF files - it supports only >TIFF format. Is software available to convert PDF to TIFF? (I haven't >been able to locate any.) > >Does anyone have any suggestions / ideas on how we can accomplish our >faxing? THANK YOU. You don't mention what platform you're on, but there was a product called StellarFax from TechPool Software (now owned by Vivid Image) that truly RIPped the ps printed from Exchange/Reader to a faxable document. This might be overkill for your needs though; many people get satisfactory results faxing directly from Exchange/Reader using the normal fax driver. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 6-Jul-1998 23:32:48-GMT,3820;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08606 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:32:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20715; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:15:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:11:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20502; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:10:58 -0500 Message-ID: <35A154F7.BBAE1BFB@tsi-net.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 15:51:35 -0700 From: Russell Hansberry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDF stuff References: <199807051435.IAA06500@srv1.thuntek.net> <35A0D632.C8C12C8F@pre-print.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I did not catch the entire thread, so this may not be relevant to your particular situation but... I have had a lot of problems with Acrobat Exchange 3.01 when trying to save 230 MB PDF files under W95. I have supplied the same files to Adobe Technical Support. They are able to replicate the problems but not resolve them or provide satisfactory workarounds. The causes are not known but file size is the primary suspect. Since you mentioned large numbers of pages and I do not know how you plan to organize them, I thought this information might be of some value to you in avoiding a similar situation. Best of luck on your project. Russell Hansberry rhans@tsi-net.com Gunnar wrote: > > Good morning David. > > If you want to take 30,000 to 200,000 pages from TIFF to PDF, then you > want to change them from bitmap (or raster), which is what TIFF is, into > vector, which is what PostScript and PDF do best with. > > This is why Capture is good. > > If most of your pages are text, you will want to use Capture or another > Optical Character Reader (OCR) package to change the TIFF text into > editable ASCII text. It will involve spellchecking and reformatting, but > it will reduce your file sizes significantly; to get a readable page, a > TIFF or PICT image must be at least 300 dpi. Even at that resolution it > will be fuzzy compared to ASCII. It will also be in the area of 8 Mb > (black and white) to 32 Mb (color) per single 8.5 x 11 page. With ASCII > text (you can decide the font size style and layout, so we're not > talking Courier) and vector graphics, you can end up with file sizes of > under 1 Mb and under 100k per page. > > So, over even 30,000 pages, being conservative, you could be looking at > 240 Mb for TIFFs versus under 10 Mb for Captured text and rebuilt > graphics. If size is an issue, then you'll be wanting to capture the > text. > -- > > Most respectfully, > > Gunnar Blodgett, Production Researcher, Pre Print, Inc. > tel. (403) 488-6688 ext. 283 alt (403) 461-0333 > fax (403) 452-6972 website: http://www.pre-print.com > website: http://www.greatart.nt.ca > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 0:14:23-GMT,2290;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09545 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:14:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22106; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:58:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:54:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21947; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:54:55 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19980706100119.592f2078@mail.i95.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 01:30:07 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] deleting buttons (or any form item) copied to all pages in file Cc: Harold Goldstein Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Harold, Exchange will ask you whether you want to delete all instances of the field in the document. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >for buttons that were created in exchange in one page and then copied to, >say, every other page in a file, is thee any way to delete some or all of >the buttons or does it >have to be done individually on each page? >___________________________________ >Harold Goldstein - dcbiker@goldray.com ~~ ,__o ~^^ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 6:55:31-GMT,1871;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA16989 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:55:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01074; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 01:31:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 01:20:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00795; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 01:20:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 18:21:53 +1200 (NZST) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980706123058.007d7a90@mail.tim.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: Re: [PDF] Destination of DistAsst files? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com his all works fine BUT the file is always saved to C:/ (root folder) > > Is there any way to specify the output folder with DistAsst without a user > interference? > > << srure is set up a "Watched" folder :)> andrew ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 7:52:29-GMT,2293;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17999 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 01:52:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA02789; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 02:38:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 02:33:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA02653; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 02:33:39 -0500 From: jeffmcarthur@home.com (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Faxing PDF files Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 07:28:41 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Message-ID: <35a3cd6c.5118963@mail> References: <85256639.0061BAEC.00@lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com> In-Reply-To: <85256639.0061BAEC.00@lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA02650 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:56:11 -0400, you wrote: >Our FAX server does not support the faxing of PDF files - it supports only >TIFF format. Is software available to convert PDF to TIFF? (I haven't >been able to locate any.) > >Does anyone have any suggestions / ideas on how we can accomplish our >faxing? THANK YOU. We do batch faxing of PDF files. We do it by using WinFax and Exchange. You install WinFax which installs a fax print driver. We have a program which talks to WinFax via DDE and controls Exchange via OLE. Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 9:49:15-GMT,2124;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20142 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 03:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05734; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 04:36:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 04:31:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05603; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 04:31:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199807070930.EAA05599@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Faxing PDF files Date: Tue, 7 Jul 98 11:31:00 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >>>Our FAX server does not support the faxing of PDF files - it supports >>only >>>TIFF format. Is software available to convert PDF to TIFF? (I haven't >>>been able to locate any.) >>> >>>Does anyone have any suggestions / ideas on how we can accomplish our >>>faxing? THANK YOU. > >We do batch faxing of PDF files. We do it by using WinFax and Exchange. >You install WinFax which installs a fax print driver. We have a program >which talks to WinFax via DDE and controls Exchange via OLE. This is the best way to do it with a server. But if you're looking for a PDF to TIFF conversion, look at GhostScript. It can convert directly into CCITT Group 4 Fax-style TIFF, so then you're ready to send the file. We've done great jobs with HylaFax, using this method. Andrea _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 12:46:00-GMT,1545;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23109 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 06:45:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10539; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 07:27:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 07:22:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10322; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 07:22:47 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDA9B2.B33CC8E0.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PageMaker font question Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:56:15 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com To all, I apologize for sending attachment with my question. I didn't know it's against the "List netiquette" (thanx Aandi). regards, Jernej _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 14:22:02-GMT,2286;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24975 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:22:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14676; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:05:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:02:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14464; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:02:39 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 10:03:42 -0400 From: Jimmy Stewart To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] .PDF from word processors Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Our agency uses WordPerfect 6.1 and Microsoft Word 97 to create documents. Of course, these wordprocessing files don't always generate well-behaved PostScript for conversion to .PDF. Is there a list of guidelines available which indicates how wordprocessing documents should be created to increase the probability of creating good PostScript files? Thank you. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 15:15:05-GMT,1575;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26220 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:15:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17921; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 10:00:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:57:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17709; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:57:55 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525663A.0051CB25.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 10:55:03 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Form's Question for Charlie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sorry to all. I did not realize that I was responding to the PDFLists with an attached file. Charlie, can you send me your e-mail address so that if I need to attach files I can send them directly to you? Once again, my apologies. --Karen _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 17:20:23-GMT,1847;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29240 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:20:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23439; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:04:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:01:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23297; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:01:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:59:42 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Callaway, Rebecca" Subject: [PDF] Weblinks in Word Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello - Looking for positive results here.... PLEASE tell me there is a way to establish a web link with valid HTTP address in MS Word (v. 7, Win 95), distill it, and have it be active in Acrobat reader. When I distill it, it comes across with the blue color and underlines, but I cannot seem to make it active. I have checked preferences for always showing weblinks. I know that Word 97 allows this easily with PDFMaker. Please say that something similar is possible with Word for Win 95!! thx - Rebecca _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 19:43:00-GMT,1724;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02993 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:42:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29444; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:24:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:21:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29290; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:21:11 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525663A.0069A317.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:18:20 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Changing Bullets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, folks: Has anyone had problems with bullets changing when converting FrameMaker documents to PDF? My FrameMaker document uses small round Wingding bullets and when I convert the document to PDF, they appear as small dashes in Exchange. If I print a page with these dash bullets, the bullets print round. What is going on? I'm selecting Embed All Fonts in Distiller v3.02 on Windows 95. --Karen _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 20:06:13-GMT,2313;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03532 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:06:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30911; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:51:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:48:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30768; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:48:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980707125049.007c47d0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 12:50:49 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing Bullets In-Reply-To: <8525663A.0069A317.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com You might try using Dingbats. They're a Type 1 font. I avoid TT fonts whenever possible. We use Dingbats all the time with no probs. At 03:18 PM 7/7/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi, folks: >Has anyone had problems with bullets changing when converting FrameMaker >documents to PDF? My FrameMaker document uses small round Wingding bullets >and when I convert the document to PDF, they appear as small dashes in >Exchange. If I print a page with these dash bullets, the bullets print >round. What is going on? I'm selecting Embed All Fonts in Distiller v3.02 >on Windows 95. > >--Karen > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 21:00:59-GMT,2750;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04850 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:00:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00621; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:45:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:42:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00460; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:42:30 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525663A.00716368.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:39:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing Bullets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, Scott: We do not have the Dingbat font. Can you send it to me, please? --Karen karen_l_mibus@keybank.com scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com on 07/07/98 03:50:49 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing Bullets You might try using Dingbats. They're a Type 1 font. I avoid TT fonts whenever possible. We use Dingbats all the time with no probs. At 03:18 PM 7/7/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi, folks: >Has anyone had problems with bullets changing when converting FrameMaker >documents to PDF? My FrameMaker document uses small round Wingding bullets >and when I convert the document to PDF, they appear as small dashes in >Exchange. If I print a page with these dash bullets, the bullets print >round. What is going on? I'm selecting Embed All Fonts in Distiller v3.02 >on Windows 95. > >--Karen > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 7-Jul-1998 21:35:55-GMT,1942;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05780 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:35:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02076; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:17:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:15:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01990; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:15:39 -0500 Message-ID: <35A2917E.BA5F5C99@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 17:22:07 -0400 From: Ramon Mellado Villlarreal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Max Pages in a Catalog Index References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We are about to process close to 100,000 images of pages into PDF using Capture and then creating a search index with Catalog. Two questions: 1. What is the reliability of Catalog in the creation of such index. Is there a design or practical limitation to the number of pages that can be included in the index? 2. Has Adobe or someone else gotten over the multi-CD volume limitation of the Catalog index (documents in several CD volumes) or do all docs in an index have to be on a single volume? Thanks in advance. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 0:35:02-GMT,2409;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10002 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 18:35:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09889; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:19:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:15:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09730; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:15:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199807080015.RAA17572@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 17:17:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] .PDF from word processors From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >Our agency uses WordPerfect 6.1 and Microsoft Word 97 to create documents. Of course, these wordprocessing files don't always generate well-behaved PostScript for conversion to .PDF. > >Is there a list of guidelines available which indicates how wordprocessing documents should be created to increase the probability of creating good PostScript files? IMHO, PDFWriter is better at creating PDFs from WordPerfect, Word and Excel than Distiller is - assuming that they don't have .eps files embedded in them. If you want embedded fonts and good compression, you need to use all of the PDFWriter dialogs. Check out Robert Moran's set of instructions for PDFWriter creation of PDF files (Mac or Windows) at http://www2.dconstructs.com/dc/dc_acro.pdf. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 2:16:04-GMT,1667;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11944 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:16:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13923; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 21:01:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:58:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13729; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:58:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:59:33 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: simon Longstaff Subject: [PDF] searching Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Does anyone know how to make certain text in a document unsearchable but leave the rest for example, to be able to search only bold type, or can anybody tell me if you can enter a key word into Veritys Query box automatically so you can then put this word in front of the words you wish only to search. Any help on this would be much appreciated. Simon _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 2:17:05-GMT,3336;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11959 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:17:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13559; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:54:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:50:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13321; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:50:04 -0500 Message-ID: <35A2CF9E.BB7AAAD2@thegrid.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 18:47:10 -0700 From: Tony LeGrand X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] The World's Simplest Search Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D1ECCC2E6C65D747711F031B" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com --------------D1ECCC2E6C65D747711F031B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a PDF newbie with a large task ahead. I am converting hundreds of AutoCAD generated drawings to PDF in order to make "snapshots" of them available across our network. Searchable keywords will be built into each individual PDF file. My end-users are NOT computer-literate, and I must make this as user friendly as possible. REQUEST: The Tools > Search > Query > Keywords approach may be OK for you guys, but NOT for my users. Too many steps. I need a very simple approach. Something like a button-link to a single text field, into which the users can type relevant keywords. This would then invoke a search of the keyword fields of my indexed PDF's. Much appreciation for any creative solutions. --------------D1ECCC2E6C65D747711F031B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a PDF newbie with a large task ahead.

I am converting hundreds of AutoCAD generated drawings
to PDF in order to make "snapshots" of them available
across our network. Searchable keywords will be built
into each individual PDF file.

My end-users are NOT computer-literate, and I must
make this as user friendly as possible.

REQUEST:

The Tools > Search > Query > Keywords approach may be
OK for you guys, but NOT for my users. Too many steps.

I need a very simple approach.  Something like a
button-link to a single text field, into which the
users can type relevant keywords.  This would then
invoke a search of the keyword fields of my indexed
PDF's.

Much appreciation for any creative solutions. --------------D1ECCC2E6C65D747711F031B-- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 2:50:48-GMT,1790;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12502 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:50:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15126; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 21:32:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 21:28:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14965; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 21:28:42 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:31:37 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Masterson, Tate & Associates" Subject: Re: [PDF] searching Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Can any body tell me of a Java program associated with PDF. Does anyone know if Adobe plans to come out with a Java Reader? This is probably for the developers out there, but is there a way to write a Java program that will call the Viewer or Reader? Jason Spisak Masterson, Tate & Associates 6151 West Century Boulevard Suite 928 Los Angeles, CA 90045 Phone 310.348.7665 Facsimile 310.258.0595 http://www.mtear.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 2:51:34-GMT,1695;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12510 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:51:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15439; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 21:41:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 21:37:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15313; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 21:37:45 -0500 Message-ID: <35A2DB4D.A58B0884@fcollins.com.au> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 12:37:01 +1000 From: Norman McGreevy Organization: Franklin Collins Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] The World's Simplest Search References: <35A2CF9E.BB7AAAD2@thegrid.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Couldn't you just make a link to Execute Menu Item and add an appropriate graphic for the text field entry point. Norman McGreevy Tony LeGrand wrote: > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: 7bit _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 4:09:45-GMT,2530;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13851 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 22:09:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18064; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 22:54:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 22:50:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17896; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 22:50:33 -0500 X-Sender: typeshop@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <85256639.0061BAEC.00@lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:48:32 +1200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: TypeShop Ltd Subject: Re: [PDF] Faxing PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >Our FAX server does not support the faxing of PDF files - it supports only >TIFF format. Is software available to convert PDF to TIFF? (I haven't >been able to locate any.) > >Does anyone have any suggestions / ideas on how we can accomplish our >faxing? THANK YOU. > >- Linda Pratt > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ Hi Linda, I quite successfully use STFfax software out of Exchange on the Macintosh (you didn't say what platform you are on). It actually mucks up the "look" of the command equivalents in the menus, but this doesn't affect how either Exchange or STFfax works. The only real downside seems to be that it tends to change the size of the image somewhat at the other end. I believe this is a problem with most faxing software anyway. But the image at the other end, including halftones, is remarkably good. Kind regards Cliff Strange TypeShop Limited Christchurch New Zealand _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 4:43:03-GMT,1951;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA14343 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 22:43:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19012; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 23:21:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 23:17:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18846; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 23:17:22 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 98 21:17 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: (message from TypeShop Ltd on Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:48:32 +1200) Subject: Re: [PDF] Faxing PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Is software available to convert PDF to TIFF? Ghostscript will convert PDF to G3 / G4 TIFF (in fact, it's being used for this purpose in several commercial products), and it's free as long as you don't want to redistribute it in a commercial setting. It runs on Unix, MS-DOS, MS Windows, Mac OS, and other environments. Please see the URL below. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 4:43:03-GMT,2459;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA14345 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 22:43:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19175; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 23:25:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 23:21:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA19029; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 23:21:48 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 98 21:17 PDT From: "L. Peter Deutsch" Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: (message from TypeShop Ltd on Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:48:32 +1200) Subject: Re: [PDF] Faxing PDF files URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Is software available to convert PDF to TIFF? Ghostscript will convert PDF to G3 / G4 TIFF (in fact, it's being used for this purpose in several commercial products), and it's free as long as you don't want to redistribute it in a commercial setting. It runs on Unix, MS-DOS, MS Windows, Mac OS, and other environments. Please see the URL below. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 6:57:25-GMT,2705;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA17030 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 00:57:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23116; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 01:36:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 01:28:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22859; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 01:28:53 -0500 From: "Jonathan West" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Weblinks in Word Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 23:52:42 +0100 Message-ID: <01bda9f9$f891d6a0$LocalHost@riviera.fr.riviera.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com My program MultiLinker does this. Follow the link in my signature for more details. regards Jonathan West - Word MVP Multilinker - Automated generation of hyperlinks in Word Conversion to PDF & HTML http://www.multilinker.com -----Original Message----- From: Callaway, Rebecca To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 07 July 1998 18:12 Subject: [PDF] Weblinks in Word >Hello - > >Looking for positive results here.... > >PLEASE tell me there is a way to establish a web link with valid HTTP >address in MS Word (v. 7, Win 95), distill it, and have it be active in >Acrobat reader. > >When I distill it, it comes across with the blue color and underlines, >but I cannot seem to make it active. I have checked preferences for >always showing weblinks. > >I know that Word 97 allows this easily with PDFMaker. Please say that >something similar is possible with Word for Win 95!! > >thx - > >Rebecca > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 12:09:57-GMT,2616;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA22892 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 06:09:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA32546; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 06:54:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 06:50:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA32402; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 06:50:41 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Weblinks in Word Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:50:35 +0100 Message-ID: <005601bdaa66$9e811e10$0a3da8c0@davetemp.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > PLEASE tell me there is a way to establish a web link with valid HTTP > address in MS Word (v. 7, Win 95), distill it, and have it be active in > Acrobat reader. > > When I distill it, it comes across with the blue color and underlines, > but I cannot seem to make it active. I have checked preferences for > always showing weblinks. > > I know that Word 97 allows this easily with PDFMaker. Please say that > something similar is possible with Word for Win 95!! Local render v1.1 will support both Word 95 (Word 7) and Word 97 (Word 8) in the Local Render 1.1 release. It is now complete and will be available for download from our web site by the end of the week - we are just finishing off the install routine. See www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 16:26:27-GMT,2200;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28660 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 10:26:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14175; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:08:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:04:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13922; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:04:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Brucklacher, Brett" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Sticky PDF printer driver Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 09:00:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have several large PDF documents which are a mixture of scanned images caught with Adobe Capture and Word documents that were printed from Word 7 (Windows 95 platform) using PDF Writer. Everything was coalesced into a single PDF using Acrobat Exchange 3.01. The documents print correctly when I print the entire file, but if I am trying to print a single page and it's one of the scanned images (usually full page documents that have been scanned in), I'll get a postscript error (Error: undefined Offending Command: TZ) . I've tried various printer models and print drivers, but the error is consistent. It doesn't happen with every scanned image, and if I try to print even a 10 page run that contains the page I want, it will usually print with no problems. Any ideas as to what's going on here? --Brett J. Brucklacher brettb@amgen.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 16:26:52-GMT,1639;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28666 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 10:26:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14083; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:06:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:02:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13749; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:02:23 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825663B.0057C6AF.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 09:01:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing Bullets -Wingdings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Karen, Is Wingdings TrueType? If it is, try switching the bullets using Poscript 1 Zaph Dingbats or CommonBullets. I have the same problem with Switzerland Narrow Registered "R"'s turning into bullets. That may solve your problems. I hope this helps. Best Regards, rob _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 17:52:02-GMT,2537;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00723 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:52:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18811; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:31:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:27:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18563; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:27:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Sticky PDF printer driver Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:21:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01bdaa95$a48d13c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > I have several large PDF documents which are a mixture of > scanned images caught with Adobe Capture and Word documents that were > printed from Word 7 (Windows 95 platform) using PDF Writer. Everything > was coalesced into a single PDF using Acrobat Exchange 3.01. The > documents print correctly when I print the entire file, but if I am > trying to print a single page and it's one of the scanned images > (usually full page documents that have been scanned in), I'll get a > postscript error (Error: undefined Offending Command: TZ) . > I've tried > various printer models and print drivers, but the error is consistent. > It doesn't happen with every scanned image, and if I try to > print even a > 10 page run that contains the page I want, it will usually > print with no > problems. Any ideas as to what's going on here? Have you used any plug-ins or third party products to label the pages containing the full-page scans? Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 18:07:06-GMT,1904;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01096 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:07:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19676; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:46:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:42:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19452; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:42:41 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000c01bdaa95$a48d13c0$0101c6c0@gateway> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 10:45:43 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Masterson, Tate & Associates" Subject: RE: [PDF] Sticky PDF printer driver Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, This is for you Macintosh savy folks. I have an old LaserWriter II NT in the office and my PDF's print out just fine on all of my printers except my II NT. What's going on? Do I need an older version of the LaserWriter driver. I am using LaserWriter 8 Many happy returns, Jason Masterson, Tate & Associates 6151 West Century Boulevard Suite 928 Los Angeles, CA 90045 Phone 310.348.7665 Facsimile 310.258.0595 http://www.mtear.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 18:09:27-GMT,2094;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01145 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:09:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19944; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:50:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:47:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19738; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:47:11 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825663B.0062103A.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 10:55:09 -0700 Subject: RE: [PDF] Sticky PDF printer driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ...The documents print correctly when I print the entire file, but if I am trying to print a single page and it's one of the scanned images (usually full page documents that have been scanned in), I'll get a postscript error (Error: undefined Offending Command: TZ) . Any ideas as to what's going on here?... >From Aandi: Have you used any plug-ins or third party products to label the pages containing the full-page scans? Some time ago we had print problems similar to this - we were advised that there might be a "text" code missing from the scanned PDF pages and that we should try capturing the first page of the document. In most cases this worked! If that is an option, you might try capturing a page or always printing a text page with the scanned pages. SueG _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 18:56:40-GMT,1725;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02498 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:56:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22368; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:41:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:37:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22111; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:37:10 -0500 Message-ID: <35A3AD97.5DD0@pit-magnus.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 13:34:15 -0400 From: "Mike Galloway" Organization: PROGERSSIVE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGIES X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Veiwing 2 column Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello Is there any way to take a two column page and tell it to "fit visible" and have it view only one column at a time? We would like to be able to view only the first column till we get to the bottom and then have it go to the top of the second column. Thanks MIKE GALLOWAY Progressive Infromation Technologies _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 19:04:48-GMT,2076;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02715 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:04:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22987; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:51:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:48:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22807; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:48:00 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] LaserWriter problem (was: Sticky PDF printer driver) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 19:32:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bdaaa0$ea493f00$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com No, you need a newer printer. Or, see http://www.quite.com/ps/errors.htm for a work-around which might help with this nasty bug in Acrobat Reader 3.01. Or, use 3.0. Aandi > > This is for you Macintosh savy folks. > I have an old LaserWriter II NT in the office and my PDF's > print out just > fine on all of my printers except my II NT. What's going on? > Do I need an > older version of the LaserWriter driver. I am using LaserWriter 8 > > Many happy returns, > > Jason _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 19:48:54-GMT,2233;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03777 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:48:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24775; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:21:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:18:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24494; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:18:12 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825663B.006AA672.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:26:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Veiwing 2 column Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I've never used this feature, so I'm not sure if it works this way; but I think the "article" feature is supposed to allow this. SueG "Mike Galloway" on 07/08/98 10:34:15 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Veiwing 2 column Hello Is there any way to take a two column page and tell it to "fit visible" and have it view only one column at a time? We would like to be able to view only the first column till we get to the bottom and then have it go to the top of the second column. Thanks MIKE GALLOWAY Progressive Infromation Technologies _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 19:59:38-GMT,20172;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03987 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:59:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25292; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:28:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:25:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25086; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:25:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:23:35 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] July 1998 PDF List Info Message Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com __________________________________________ Welcome to the PDF email discussion list __________________________________________ -July 1998 * PDF List Informational Message- The PDF discussion list is made possible by: * T h e P D F z o n e * The PDFzone Web site is an online hub to the universe of Adobe Acrobat and pdf, including: * several topical discussion lists * free, weekly zine showcasing pdf uses & users * series of user-requested Web-based forums * downloadable shareware & freeware * searchability of the entire Web site * commercial product & service announcements * product spec sheets * links to additional resources NOTE: 7/1/98 The PDFzone is currently undergoing a makeover to enhance its offerings, based in part on user feedback. 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Many subscribing addresses are gateways to multiple recipients at corporate and educational LANs. == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * T h e P D F z o n e * "Your Online Hub to All Things PDF" PH: (608)829-3454 x102 or (800)829-2459 FAX: (608)829-3561 579 D'Onofrio Drive, Suite 101 Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 20:32:23-GMT,1856;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04803 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:32:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27739; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:12:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:08:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27496; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:08:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:06:28 -0500 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" From: jdownie@cc.nih.gov Subject: [PDF] Site Server Index and PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We're getting very quirky results indexing with the Adobe IIS PDF filter and Microsoft Site Server Search. Files that index one time will not the next. We've explored the avenue of Mac-produced vs. PC-produced, TrueType vs Type 1, and timing (we had to raise the timeout to about 3 minutes). Site Server is running on a Pentium with 96MB of RAM with nothing much else happening on that machine. It's a test machine, so there isn't even any traffic on it. Any suggestions? Thanks, Julie Downie CC/NIH jdownie@cc.nih.gov _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 21:05:21-GMT,2228;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05527 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:05:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28872; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:37:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:33:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28693; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:33:14 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525663B.006FE58E.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:30:11 -0400 Subject: [PDF] All Who Responded to Changing Bullets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Thanks to all who offered advice about how to fix my bullets problem. Briefly, the problem occured with using Wingding bullets in FrameMaker. The bullets appeared in the PDF as dashes when viewed online, but they printed as round bullets. Per several suggestions, I changed the bullet font in FrameMaker to Zapf Dingbats (which are on the FrameMaker 5.5 CD ROM, installed with ATM 4.0). Also, I selected Display fonts as graphics in the Advanced Settings of my ATM and voila! I can now view the bullets online in FrameMaker and they appear fine in PDF as long as I use the Adobe Postscript driver. If I use Textronix 550 to generate the Postscript file, the same problem occurs again! I hope anyone else with the changing bullets problem will find this information useful. Any other thoughts or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks again to all who responded! --Karen _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 21:39:38-GMT,1807;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06283 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:39:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31134; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:20:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:16:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30893; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:16:53 -0500 From: "Luke Michael Muszkiewicz" To: Subject: [PDF] Reader/Exchange File Association Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:16:37 -0600 Message-ID: <01bdaab5$b14a9720$516d729e@inet_1.hln.bdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello, A very basic question: I have both Exchange and Reader installed locally on my machine. In Navigator 4.04, whenever I download a PDF it launches Exchange instead of Reader. How do I specify that Navigator open PDFs in Reader instead of in Exchange? Thank you for your time in advance. -luke _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 21:57:58-GMT,3106;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06756 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:57:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA32014; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:41:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:37:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31821; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:37:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199807082137.RAA20884@cpcug.org> From: "Jane Edwards" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Veiwing 2 column Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:35:06 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The article feature will let you move forward and backward through a defined article by pressing Enter or Shift + Enter. If you move out of the article feature, you will still see both columns. The article feature will only work if the person reading the file wants it to work. ---------- : From: sgililland@nexstar.com : To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com : Subject: Re: [PDF] Veiwing 2 column : Date: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 3:26 PM : : I've never used this feature, so I'm not sure if it works this way; but I : think the "article" feature is supposed to allow this. : SueG : : : : : "Mike Galloway" on 07/08/98 10:34:15 AM : : Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com : : To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com : cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) : Subject: [PDF] Veiwing 2 column : : : : : Hello : Is there any way to take a two column page and tell it to "fit visible" : and have it view only one column at a time? We would like to be able to : view only the first column till we get to the bottom and then have it go : to the top of the second column. : Thanks : MIKE GALLOWAY : Progressive Infromation Technologies : _______________________________________________ : -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- : * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * : "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" : _______________________________________________ : : : : : : : : : _______________________________________________ : : -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- : * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * : "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" : _______________________________________________ : _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 22:37:23-GMT,1966;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07692 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:37:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00883; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:16:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:12:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00697; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:12:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199807082212.PAA01952@tern.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 15:14:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader/Exchange File Association From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >How do I specify that Navigator open PDFs in >Reader instead of in Exchange? > >Thank you for your time in advance. > >-luke Funny you should ask, I just added a how-to on this subject today. Take a look at this page from my website - http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/acrobatr.html#Browser. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 22:39:51-GMT,2551;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07750 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:39:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01748; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:31:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:27:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01382; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:26:57 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader/Exchange File Association Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:26:51 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01bdaabf$812eb800$0a3da8c0@davetemp.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01bdaab5$b14a9720$516d729e@inet_1.hln.bdm.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > A very basic question: I have both Exchange and Reader installed > locally on > my machine. In Navigator 4.04, whenever I download a PDF it launches > Exchange instead of Reader. How do I specify that Navigator open PDFs in > Reader instead of in Exchange? Not that basic. The problem is normally related to the registry settings. If you double click on a PDF file in Explorer then Exchange will come up. this is because you installed Exchange after Reader. If you re-install Reader that will become the default PDF viewer. not many people have both on the same machine and I fail to see the advantage of having reader when you have Exchange. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 22:40:42-GMT,2168;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07777 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:40:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01755; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:31:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:27:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01408; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:27:00 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Veiwing 2 column Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:26:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01bdaabf$8064ff60$0a3da8c0@davetemp.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35A3AD97.5DD0@pit-magnus.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Is there any way to take a two column page and tell it to "fit visible" > and have it view only one column at a time? We would like to be able to > view only the first column till we get to the bottom and then have it go > to the top of the second column. Look at the Articles functionality. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 8-Jul-1998 23:47:14-GMT,2017;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09420 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:47:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04223; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:33:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:28:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04017; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:28:37 -0500 Message-ID: <35A400A6.859C1E14@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 19:28:38 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Veiwing 2 column References: <199807082137.RAA20884@cpcug.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Jane Edwards wrote: > > The article feature will let you move forward > and backward through a defined article by > pressing Enter or Shift + Enter. If you move > out of the article feature, you will still see both > columns. Right. > The article feature will only work if > the person reading the file wants it to work. Actually, you *could* force the user to follow an article thread by setting the page action (Edit -> Set Page Action...) on the first page of the document to follow that article thread. Could be handy...could be annoying! Cory Snavely The Beacon Group _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 2:19:19-GMT,2121;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12368 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:19:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10352; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:03:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:59:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10166; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:59:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980708185938.007b6900@sloth.wcug.wwu.edu> X-Sender: akehurst@sloth.wcug.wwu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 18:59:38 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Justin Akehurst Subject: [PDF] FDF to populate PDF files programmatically Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I would like to know if someone has figured out a way to take FDF data, which has been received from a CGI program from an Acrobat PDF file, and stick the FDF data back into the PDF "programatically" from within Perl or C or some other method, and then either FTP that PDF file somewhere or print it out using lp on a Unix box. I know there's got to be a way of doing this. I do not want to go into exchange for every FDF file and open it, and print out the PDF with the imported data by hand. It would be very efficient if it was just the PDF or PS file that was give n to me, so that I could automatically put it into a print queue or watched directory or something. Thanks. -Justin _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 3:55:04-GMT,1991;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA14089 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:55:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14013; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:38:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:34:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13847; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:34:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199807090334.WAA13847@everglades.binc.net> From: dboje@involved.com (Don Boje) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:23:18 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf and delphi Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have created an image viewer using delphi that our company distributes to clients with images (principally tiffs) we have scanned for them. Recently a client has asked if we could add tdf capability to this viewer so they could use one program to view all thier images. I have found an activex component with acrobat that I can use in delphi but no documentation to correct the errors that occur when opening a document. example: when my delphi program opens the acrobat pgm opens also. It must be then be closed before I can use an opendialog to pass a file name to the activex component otherwise I get an error message. Then when the pdf file is opened you watch the acrobat open again. Any help on where to start would be much appreciated. Thanks, Don _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 4:44:31-GMT,2678;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15011 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:44:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15972; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:31:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:27:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15773; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:27:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199807090427.XAA15769@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] FDF to populate PDF files programmatically Date: Thu, 9 Jul 98 00:27:12 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com [Justin Akehurst wrote on 7/8/98 9:59 PM] >I would like to know if someone has figured out a way to take FDF data, >which has been received from a CGI program from an Acrobat PDF file, and >stick the FDF data back into the PDF "programatically" from within Perl or >C or some other method, and then either FTP that PDF file somewhere or >print it out using lp on a Unix box. > >I know there's got to be a way of doing this. I do not want to go into >exchange for every FDF file and open it, and print out the PDF with the >imported data by hand. It would be very efficient if it was just the PDF >or PS file that was give n to me, so that I could automatically put it into >a print queue or watched directory or something. > >Thanks. > >-Justin Yes, we wrote a custom application, using C, on Solaris to murge FDF data into PDF files so the web client would receive a populated PDF form file. The client is using HTML/CGI to submit information to an Oracle database; Oracle uses triggers to call our applications to build new PDF form files from multiple existing PDF form files, murge the FDF data and page stamp the completed documents. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 9:53:37-GMT,2555;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20919 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:53:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA24290; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 04:39:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 04:31:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24025; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 04:31:23 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf and delphi Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:23:48 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01bdab1c$51305d40$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199807090334.WAA13847@everglades.binc.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > I have created an image viewer using delphi > that our company distributes to clients with > images (principally tiffs) we have scanned > for them. > > Recently a client has asked if we could add > tdf capability to this viewer so they could > use one program to view all thier images. I > have found an activex component with acrobat > that I can use in delphi but no documentation > to correct the errors that occur when opening > a document. > > example: when my delphi program opens the > acrobat pgm opens also. It must be then be > closed before I can use an opendialog to pass > a file name to the activex component otherwise > I get an error message. Then when the pdf file > is opened you watch the acrobat open again. The ActiveX is not a freestanding PDF viewer, but an interface to Acrobat Reader, which is why it is starting. There are many caveats about using this unsupported technique. See the "Acrobat Developer FAQ" at http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk/. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 11:37:39-GMT,1956;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22782 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 05:37:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26658; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:05:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 05:52:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA26219; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 05:52:38 -0500 X-Sender: quartet@pop.wanadoo.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.3 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:56:09 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: quartet@wanadoo.fr (Eric Wannin) Subject: [PDF] Automate extraction Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello, Does someone know a way to automate the extraction of all the pages of a PDF document which contains several pages (100, 1000 or more) into new different one page PDF documents. Is also a way to automate the change of the new title of each PDF documents created by this process ? (same name for the title and for the PDF file). Thank you. ============================= Eric Wannin - Sales & Marketing Manager Quartet Systems Saint Veran 84220 Goult France Tel : 33 (0)4 90 72 48 48 Fax : 33 (0)4 90 72 42 80 E.mail : quartet@wanadoo.fr Web : http://www.quartet.fr ============================= _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 11:54:45-GMT,2499;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23081 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 05:54:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27909; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:46:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:42:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27736; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:42:43 -0500 Message-ID: <0yTmmVAcuKp1IwZr@pierhse.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:38:04 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel Mason Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader/Exchange File Association In-Reply-To: <000e01bdaabf$812eb800$0a3da8c0@davetemp.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com David, I always keep a version of reader as well as exchange on the same computer, it gives me a good indication if I need to check what my clients can do if they only have reader. ie while talking over a job by telephone? But I have done exacly what you suggested because I had the same problem. It works luke. In message <000e01bdaabf$812eb800$0a3da8c0@davetemp.docctrl.com>, David Cornwell writes >> A very basic question: I have both Exchange and Reader installed >> locally on >> my machine. In Navigator 4.04, whenever I download a PDF it launches >> Exchange instead of Reader. How do I specify that Navigator open PDFs in >> Reader instead of in Exchange? > >Not that basic. The problem is normally related to the registry settings. If >you double click on a PDF file in Explorer then Exchange will come up. this >is because you installed Exchange after Reader. If you re-install Reader >that will become the default PDF viewer. not many people have both on the >same machine and I fail to see the advantage of having reader when you have >Exchange. -- Daniel Mason _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 11:59:47-GMT,2819;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23158 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 05:59:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27910; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:46:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:42:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27758; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:42:46 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:22:26 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel Mason Subject: Re: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF121FC9@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com In message <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF121FC9@msexchg1.wcnoc.com>, Decker Gary E writes >We would like to know if there is any way of converting files in PDF >format to Microsoft Word 7.0/Word for Windows 95 format. Gary, We are in exactly the same boat, I keep being told that I shouldn't be trying to use a pdf for importing into word processing software,but it would really help. We have many Quark docs created on the mac by our bureau dept., such as fax headers etc, which we would like to convert to word format for our admin dept, so that they can type in the relevant specific info and print out to their own printers (we cannot provide Acrobat Exchange for everyone!) The only way I have been able so far, is to export as pdf as an eps file and place it in word as any other eps. But....(proplems found out!) If you create the eps from acrobat on a mac, and try and import it into word, it has no preview but prints fine. Creating it on a PC is ok. Trying to print an eps to a non-postscript printer such as a HP laserjet 5N gives a very bitmapped image, workaround? create the pdf at 200% or 300% in the first instance!! - it comes out fine but ends up with a bigger eps file than able to cope with, so no good! Let me know what platform you are using and what you are trying to do achieve (ie. more details) perhaps we can help eachother ??? -- Daniel Mason _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 12:23:45-GMT,2309;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23552 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:23:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29033; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:13:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:09:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28814; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:09:01 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Automate extraction Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:08:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01bdab32$591f9b40$0a3da8c0@davetemp.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Does someone know a way to automate the extraction of all the pages of a > PDF document which contains several pages (100, 1000 or more) into new > different one page PDF documents. > > Is also a way to automate the change of the new title of each PDF > documents > created by this process ? (same name for the title and for the PDF file). > Our PDFfusion engine will enable you to do this. Please check out www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 13:17:11-GMT,2473;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24504 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:17:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30900; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:00:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:57:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30738; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:57:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199807091257.NAA17079@jupiter.nildram.co.uk> Subject: RE: [PDF] LaserWriter problem (was: Sticky PDF printer driver) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:58:24 +0000 x-sender: keith@mail.jireh.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Keith Jones To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA30735 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Jason wrote.... >> This is for you Macintosh savy folks. >> I have an old LaserWriter II NT in the office and my PDF's >> print out just >> fine on all of my printers except my II NT. What's going on? >> Do I need an >> older version of the LaserWriter driver. I am using LaserWriter 8 One of our printers is a LaserWriter II Ntx (which is very similar to your II NT) and we have never had any problems printing out PDFs. If you want to send me a PDF that you're having trouble with I'll be happy to try and print it out for you. If it prints OK the problem must lie with the PDF. regards Keith Keith Jones King-Fisher Communications <'))>< ___________________________________________________________ Your own email autoresponder (e.g. yourname@fastinfo.com) Ł26 ($42) per year unlimited use. ___________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 13:53:19-GMT,1953;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25275 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:53:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32721; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:39:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:37:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA32527; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:37:04 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:24:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bdab3e$a2c3b9a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > ... > > Trying to print an eps to a non-postscript printer such as a > HP laserjet > 5N gives a very bitmapped image, workaround? create the pdf at 200% or > 300% in the first instance!! - it comes out fine but ends up with a > bigger eps file than able to cope with, so no good! EPS is just unsuitable for non-PostScript printers, however you look at it. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 14:12:41-GMT,1895;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25845 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:12:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00987; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:00:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:57:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00806; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:57:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199807091357.IAA00806@everglades.binc.net> From: "Downie, Julia" Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:20:49 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] cached pdfs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We have a big problem with some pdf files that contain time sensitive information -- The information not only expires but is replaced (not on any schedule). Since it's medical information, if the user misses the replacement because they're operating on cached information, the results could be most unfortunate. We don't have any control over the user's browsers and may not be able to insist on plug-ins (though if necessary, we'll try). Are there any techniques or products for making sure the documents aren't cached in the first place, or, failing that, for making sure the cache expires immediately? Thanks julie downie CC/NIH jdownie@cc.nih.gov _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 14:23:37-GMT,1777;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26067 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01509; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:10:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:07:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01319; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:07:36 -0500 Message-ID: <35A4CE04.462AD69E@livepicture.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:04:52 +0300 From: Benzi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, nina@livepicture.com, bschreiber@livepicture.com Subject: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I'm trying to generate a PDF from a FrameMaker file, but I get either b/w screen captures (instead of color), or color screen captures but fuzzy text, or nice screen captures and text but no bookmarks (depending on what printer driver I'm using. PDFWriter gives me everything but the bookmarks). Can someone tell me how to solve this problem? Thanks Benzi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 14:50:16-GMT,2391;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26706 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03204; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:39:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:36:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03072; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:36:51 -0500 Message-ID: <35A4D5FD.9C5A490D@reivax.com.br> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 11:38:53 -0300 From: Ricardo Monteiro Organization: REIVAX Automaçăo e Controle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity References: <35A4CE04.462AD69E@livepicture.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I'm new to this list, so I apologize if my question has been submitted before. I have put some catalogues for my company's products in our home page, but I would like to use PDF formats, because they are much smaller than MS-Word or Corel. I tried PageMaker 6.5, but it didn't generate a good PDF file (it cut the image at the right page, as if the right page was set too large). Corel Draw 7 says it exports to PDF, but the fonts come out too large, out of the paper limits, and there is not setting for this. and I wouldn't want to buy a software without knowing if it works or not. I heard about a printer driver which captures any printer output (from Word, Corel, whatever) and sends it to a PDF file, but I couldn't find it at Adobe's. Can anyone help me? Thank you all, -- Ricardo Monteiro Quality Manager REIVAX Automaçăo e Controle Voice/fax (+55-48) 334-9000 http://www.reivax.com.br mailto:info@reivax.com.br _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 14:57:23-GMT,2868;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26857 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:57:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03125; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:37:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:34:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02957; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:34:54 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525663C.004F1A64.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:31:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Benzi: I just completed trying to resolve the issues you are experiencing and this is what I learned. If you want good color images in your PDF, print your FrameMaker document using a color postscript printer driver, such as Tetronix 550 at 600dpi. Verify that you set the driver's postscipt to Postscript Optimize for Portability. Be sure to select Generate Acrobat Data on the FrameMaker Print dialog box and set up your bookmark structure before you print to file. Also, make certain that you do not select Print Spot Color As Black/White. If you want thumbnail images, select that also. I found that Adobe's Postscript Driver turns FrameMaker documents into black and white. I do not know why this happens. Avoid using PDF Writer for FrameMaker. It is intended for Microsoft Office applications like Word and Excel. Good luck! --Karen bschreiber@livepicture.com on 07/09/98 10:04:52 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, nina@livepicture.com, bschreiber@livepicture.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity I'm trying to generate a PDF from a FrameMaker file, but I get either b/w screen captures (instead of color), or color screen captures but fuzzy text, or nice screen captures and text but no bookmarks (depending on what printer driver I'm using. PDFWriter gives me everything but the bookmarks). Can someone tell me how to solve this problem? Thanks Benzi _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 14:57:42-GMT,1723;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26861 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03556; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:44:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:41:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03352; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:41:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000701bdab47$a4780a40$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] printing multiple pages/sheet of paper Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:41:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Is there anything that will allow me to print multiple pages/page? example, printing a 400 pg PDf on 100 pieces of paper (tiling 4 pages on one printed sheet) preferably something freely available since I don. -Brett _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 14:58:14-GMT,2601;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26875 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:58:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03752; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:46:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:44:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03585; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:44:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199807091444.JAA03581@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] cached pdfs Date: Thu, 9 Jul 98 10:44:59 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com [Downie, Julia wrote on 7/9/98 9:20 AM] > We have a big problem with some pdf files that contain time sensitive > information -- > > The information not only expires but is replaced (not on any schedule). > Since it's medical information, if the user misses the replacement because > they're operating on cached information, the results could be most > unfortunate. > > We don't have any control over the user's browsers and may not be able to > insist on plug-ins (though if necessary, we'll try). > > Are there any techniques or products for making sure the documents aren't > cached in the first place, or, failing that, for making sure the cache > expires immediately? > > Thanks > > julie downie > CC/NIH > jdownie@cc.nih.gov Julie, The page cache is a real problem. A plug-in can disable the page cache with a call to the Acrobat SDK; but, that really doesn't turn off the page cache it only limits how many pages are cached. I have asked Adobe for an SDK call to flush the page cache from memory, but, they are unwilling to invest the engineering effort to change the cache mechanism. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 15:16:39-GMT,1848;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27312 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:16:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04903; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:04:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:02:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04741; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:01:58 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525663C.0051DB4C.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:58:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, Ricardo Monteiro: Use PDF Writer for generating PDF files from Word. If you have color images for which you want to maintain high quality, try using a color postscript print driver, such as Tetronix 550 (I just posted an e-mail to PDF Lists about using this driver). Distill the .prn file. I learned from Corel users on PDF Lists that Corel does not generate good PDF files when you select Save As PDF. Try creating the postscript file with the driver I mention above, or a comparable driver. --Karen _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 15:40:27-GMT,1842;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27886 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:40:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06195; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:28:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:26:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05991; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:26:02 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825663C.00544697.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:25:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader/Exchange File Association -Navigator 4.04 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Luke, "use the force" :0) seriously though, go to Edit > Preferences Choose the drop down under "Navigator" > "Applications" Scroll down the list on the right and look for "Portable Document Format" Select it and go to "Edit" Button Under "Handled by" choose "Browse" button and just find where the Acrobat Reader EXE is in your Hard Drive, and wala...now Reader is assigned as the "helper" app for your PDF files.... I hope this helps. Regards, Rob _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 15:42:46-GMT,2491;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27931 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:42:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06316; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:30:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:27:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06116; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:27:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:28:24 -0700 From: "Rob L. Shepherd" Subject: Re: [PDF] Automate extraction In-reply-to: X-Sender: robs@mail.spie.org To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <3.0.5.32.19980709082824.0098fd40@mail.spie.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 12:56 PM 7/9/98 +0100, you wrote: >Does someone know a way to automate the extraction of all the pages of a >PDF document which contains several pages (100, 1000 or more) into new >different one page PDF documents. Eric, Take a look at www.roundtable.com.au. Karl De Abrew has written some visual basic code to accomplish your goal. >Is also a way to automate the change of the new title of each PDF documents >created by this process ? (same name for the title and for the PDF file). Karl also has some code that demonstrates updating doc info fields. I have expanded on his example by declaring a recordset in Access, and looping through each PDF to make the updates based on the database values. It works very well. Rob ************************************************** Rob L. Shepherd SPIE-The International Society for Optical Engineering Internet Publishing Development 1000 20th St., Bellingham, WA 98225 phone: 360-676-3290 x531 fax: 360-647-1445 http://www.spie.org e-mail: robs@spie.org _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 16:41:49-GMT,3381;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29521 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:41:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09107; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:24:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:20:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08888; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:20:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:24:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Try ImageStream97 by Inso ( www.inso.com ) . This software will allow you to import the first page of a pdf file as an image. Robin -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Mason [SMTP:Dan@pierhse.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 1998 6:22 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Conversion of PDF file to Microsoft Word In message <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF121FC9@msexchg1.wcnoc.com>, Decker Gary E writes >We would like to know if there is any way of converting files in PDF >format to Microsoft Word 7.0/Word for Windows 95 format. Gary, We are in exactly the same boat, I keep being told that I shouldn't be trying to use a pdf for importing into word processing software,but it would really help. We have many Quark docs created on the mac by our bureau dept., such as fax headers etc, which we would like to convert to word format for our admin dept, so that they can type in the relevant specific info and print out to their own printers (we cannot provide Acrobat Exchange for everyone!) The only way I have been able so far, is to export as pdf as an eps file and place it in word as any other eps. But....(proplems found out!) If you create the eps from acrobat on a mac, and try and import it into word, it has no preview but prints fine. Creating it on a PC is ok. Trying to print an eps to a non-postscript printer such as a HP laserjet 5N gives a very bitmapped image, workaround? create the pdf at 200% or 300% in the first instance!! - it comes out fine but ends up with a bigger eps file than able to cope with, so no good! Let me know what platform you are using and what you are trying to do achieve (ie. more details) perhaps we can help eachother ??? -- Daniel Mason _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 16:52:13-GMT,3002;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29760 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:52:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09716; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:33:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:30:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09555; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:30:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Automate extraction Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:34:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Eric, The next version of PDFWorkshop will have this function available. In fact it is already implemented in the in-house beta version. For more information check their web site or contact Karl De Abrew. Best, Robin -----Original Message----- From: Rob L. Shepherd [SMTP:robs@spie.org] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 1998 10:28 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automate extraction At 12:56 PM 7/9/98 +0100, you wrote: >Does someone know a way to automate the extraction of all the pages of a >PDF document which contains several pages (100, 1000 or more) into new >different one page PDF documents. Eric, Take a look at www.roundtable.com.au. Karl De Abrew has written some visual basic code to accomplish your goal. >Is also a way to automate the change of the new title of each PDF documents >created by this process ? (same name for the title and for the PDF file). Karl also has some code that demonstrates updating doc info fields. I have expanded on his example by declaring a recordset in Access, and looping through each PDF to make the updates based on the database values. It works very well. Rob ************************************************** Rob L. Shepherd SPIE-The International Society for Optical Engineering Internet Publishing Development 1000 20th St., Bellingham, WA 98225 phone: 360-676-3290 x531 fax: 360-647-1445 http://www.spie.org e-mail: robs@spie.org _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 16:53:05-GMT,3136;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29800 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:53:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09895; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:35:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:33:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09701; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:33:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980709093522.007e1750@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 09:35:22 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity In-Reply-To: <8525663C.004F1A64.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We use the Acrobat Distiller 3.0 PPD with Adobe PS 4.1 printer driver from Frame 5.1.2 on Win95 and it ALWAYS prints color. The only time it doesn't is when you select "Print spot color as black/white." I will however, echo Karen's comments about staying away from PDFwriter from Frame. You can do it, it just limits you so much more than just printing to a PS file then distilling At 10:31 AM 7/9/98 -0400, you wrote: >I found that Adobe's Postscript Driver turns FrameMaker documents into >black and white. I do not know why this happens. > >Avoid using PDF Writer for FrameMaker. It is intended for Microsoft Office >applications like Word and Excel. > >Good luck! > >--Karen > > > > >bschreiber@livepicture.com on 07/09/98 10:04:52 AM > >Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, nina@livepicture.com, > bschreiber@livepicture.com >cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) >Subject: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity > > > > >I'm trying to generate a PDF from a FrameMaker file, but I get either >b/w screen captures (instead of color), or color screen captures but >fuzzy text, or nice screen captures and text but no bookmarks (depending >on what printer driver I'm using. PDFWriter gives me everything but the >bookmarks). >Can someone tell me how to solve this problem? >Thanks >Benzi > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 17:35:32-GMT,1691;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00985 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:35:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12498; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:22:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:19:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12247; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:19:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] "browser not responding"??? Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:01:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sue: Same difference. Simply add a hyperlink with "Mailto:xyz@xyz.com" in place of the URL... > Can't help with your problem - But, a request of my own - I've added > URL's, but hope someone can tell me how to add mailto > commands to a PDF > document. > Thanks, SueG Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 17:36:01-GMT,4444;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01002 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:36:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11918; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:14:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:12:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11774; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:12:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199807091711.KAA11510@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:11:35 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, framers@frameusers.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980709093522.007e1750@mailhost.fourgen.com> References: <8525663C.004F1A64.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com To reiterate THE official Adobe advice previously given on both the PDF and the Framer's lists, for Windows'9X, use the AdobePS 4.2.3 (or 4.2.2) driver (available for download from Adobe's web site) with the Distiller PPD found in the \Acrobat3\Distillr\XTRAS subdirectory. Any other combination is likely to cause significant problems in terms of proper rendering of graphics and/or text objects as well as color. The AdobePS 4.1.x driver suffered from a generic Windows bug that caused output to be monochrome if the default printer was a monochrome printer, regardless of what the "current" printer (i.e., the printer instance generating PostScript for distillation) is. PPDs for other PostScript devices result in very-device dependent PostScript being generated. Such device dependent features may either result in distillation failure because of PostScript errors and/or improperly rendered results. Unfortunately, due to the timing of the original release of Acrobat 3.0, the Distiller Assistant automatically associated itself with the default, very buggy, PSCRIPT PostScript driver that originally shipped with Windows'9X. If you have such an installation, you should delete the "Distiller" driver from the Printers folder and use the AdobePS 4.2.3 setup program to create a new printer instance to local device \distasst.ps using the Distiller PPD per above. - Dov Isaacs Director of Technology Analysis Printing & Systems Division Adobe Systems Incorporated At 7/9/98 09:35 AM , Scott Hamlow wrote: >We use the Acrobat Distiller 3.0 PPD with Adobe PS 4.1 printer driver from >Frame 5.1.2 on Win95 and it ALWAYS prints color. The only time it doesn't >is when you select "Print spot color as black/white." > >I will however, echo Karen's comments about staying away from PDFwriter >from Frame. You can do it, it just limits you so much more than just >printing to a PS file then distilling > >At 10:31 AM 7/9/98 -0400, you wrote: >>I found that Adobe's Postscript Driver turns FrameMaker documents into >>black and white. I do not know why this happens. >> >>Avoid using PDF Writer for FrameMaker. It is intended for Microsoft Office >>applications like Word and Excel. >> >>Good luck! >> >>--Karen >> >>bschreiber@livepicture.com on 07/09/98 10:04:52 AM >> >>Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >>To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, nina@livepicture.com, >> bschreiber@livepicture.com >>cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) >>Subject: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity >> >>I'm trying to generate a PDF from a FrameMaker file, but I get either >>b/w screen captures (instead of color), or color screen captures but >>fuzzy text, or nice screen captures and text but no bookmarks (depending >>on what printer driver I'm using. PDFWriter gives me everything but the >>bookmarks). >>Can someone tell me how to solve this problem? >>Thanks >>Benzi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 17:48:55-GMT,2221;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01321 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:48:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13395; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:36:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:33:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13224; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:33:16 -0500 From: gary.l.weimer@awo.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: ANDERSEN WO To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8625663C.005C9C6F.00@awo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:52:34 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Multi-page to single-page PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA13221 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ___________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: Date: 07/09/98 11:51:33 AM From: Gary L. Weimer, Chicago 2900 N Paulina, 50 / 73171 ___________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ It's not necessarily automated, but I've used Input/Accel from Input Software to do this. It's not cheap, but it is fast and efficient. ___________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ ©1998 Andersen Worldwide SC. All Rights Reserved. For Internal Use only. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 17:54:29-GMT,2739;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01509 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:54:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13656; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:39:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:37:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13484; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:37:32 -0500 Message-ID: <35A50061.CD9A9FDA@reivax.com.br> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:39:45 -0300 From: Ricardo Monteiro Organization: REIVAX Automaçăo e Controle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity References: <8525663C.0051DB4C.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sorry, but as you can see, I'm really novice in this thing. Karen L Mibus wrote: > > Hi, Ricardo Monteiro: > Use PDF Writer for generating PDF files from Word. ??? Is this an Adobe product? I couldn't find it in their site. > If you have color > images for which you want to maintain high quality, try using a color > postscript print driver, such as Tetronix 550 (I just posted an e-mail to > PDF Lists about using this driver). Distill the .prn file. I read your other message. I downloaded and installed the driver for the Phaser 550, but it doesn't sey anything about PDF. Does "distill" mean using the Adobe Distiller? > > I learned from Corel users on PDF Lists that Corel does not generate good > PDF files when you select Save As PDF. Try creating the postscript file > with the driver I mention above, or a comparable driver. thanks, > > --Karen > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ -- Ricardo Monteiro Quality Manager REIVAX Automaçăo e Controle Voice/fax (+55-48) 334-9000 http://www.reivax.com.br mailto:info@reivax.com.br _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 18:00:35-GMT,2177;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01622 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:00:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14163; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:48:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:46:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14035; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:46:22 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980709104849.007fdac0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:48:49 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity In-Reply-To: <35A50061.CD9A9FDA@reivax.com.br> References: <8525663C.0051DB4C.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 02:39 PM 7/9/98 -0300, you wrote: >> Use PDF Writer for generating PDF files from Word. > >??? Is this an Adobe product? I couldn't find it in their site. Yes, It is on the Acrobat 3.x CD > >> If you have color >> images for which you want to maintain high quality, try using a color >> postscript print driver, such as Tetronix 550 (I just posted an e-mail to >> PDF Lists about using this driver). Distill the .prn file. > >I read your other message. I downloaded and installed the driver for the Phaser 550, but it doesn't sey anything about PDF. > >Does "distill" mean using the Adobe Distiller? Distill means to use the Acrobat Distiller. >> _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 18:25:10-GMT,3368;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02210 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:25:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15208; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:06:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:03:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15009; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:03:58 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525663C.00625279.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:01:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, Scott: You wrote: >We use the Acrobat Distiller 3.0 PPD with Adobe PS 4.1 printer driver from >Frame 5.1.2 on Win95 and it ALWAYS prints color. The only time it doesn't >is when you select "Print spot color as black/white." I do not select Print spot color as black/white, so I investigated why we do not get color output from the Adobe PS 4.2.2 printer driver. This is what I learned from the Help file that corresponds with the Graphics settings in the printer setup dialog box: This topic explains how to use the Graphics properties dialog box to set color, if it is available, and resolution values for your printer. If you are using a printer and have a color profile for it installed, the Adobe Printer Driver lets you define how to match colors. The color of any file the driver creates can be corrected using the options described in this topic. Certain black-and-white printers also let you use these settings to achieve better halftone rendering. If you do not see the Color Control feature in the Graphics properties dialog box, your printer vendor might not have included an ICC profile with your installation disk. If you can obtain an ICC profile for your printer, you can install it by right-clicking the icon and choosing the Install in Place option or the Install to Color Directory option, which copies the profile to your computer disk. Image Color Matching (ICM) lets you provide consistent color output across printing and viewing devices by matching device-dependent colors in your devices to international color standards. With ICM, colors used in applications are tied to international color standards. The Adobe Printer Driver performs the proper color conversions to map the device-independent color representations to the colors the device supports. Apparently, I do not have the ICC profile; so, if anyone knows where Adobe may provide this file please let me know. Otherwise, I will continue to search the Adobe site. --Karen _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 18:44:02-GMT,1647;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02678 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:44:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16334; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:29:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:26:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16199; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:26:55 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDAB3C.F6B22760@max1-158.max1.cll.infohwy.com> From: Ron Culp To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] PDF: Old topics Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:24:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA16196 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I accidentally nuked my archive of old topics. Can anyone help me out with 2 old problems? Bad b box errors and not-printing graphics? A point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. TIA. Ron _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 20:33:26-GMT,1947;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05423 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:33:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21555; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:15:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:12:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21315; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:12:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:04:22 +0100 Message-ID: <001201bdab75$d82ea1e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35A50061.CD9A9FDA@reivax.com.br> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > Use PDF Writer for generating PDF files from Word. > > ??? Is this an Adobe product? I couldn't find it in their site. PDFWriter is part of the Acrobat 3.0 (commercial) product. If you have Frame 5.5 it includes Acrobat 3.0. > Does "distill" mean using the Adobe Distiller? Yes. If you have the Acrobat 3.0 CDROM, I'd recommend using the tutorials on that disk. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 21:03:10-GMT,2422;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06183 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:03:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23210; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:44:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:41:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23061; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:41:45 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980709204206.00d7f8bc@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:42:06 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com FYI, PDFWriter is also available for $29.95 with Acrobat Reader only. See: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readerwriter.html I guess Adobe finally heard all the requests for this combo and decided that it would help rather than hurt the sales of the full Acrobat product. BTW, it's for Win95 only (sorry Mac folks). Tom Thiersch At 07:04 PM 7/9/98 +0100, you wrote: > >> > Use PDF Writer for generating PDF files from Word. >> >> ??? Is this an Adobe product? I couldn't find it in their site. > >PDFWriter is part of the Acrobat 3.0 (commercial) product. >If you have Frame 5.5 it includes Acrobat 3.0. > >> Does "distill" mean using the Adobe Distiller? > >Yes. If you have the Acrobat 3.0 CDROM, I'd recommend using >the tutorials on that disk. > >Aandi > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 21:21:47-GMT,2774;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06737 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:21:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24313; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:05:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:02:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24096; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:02:21 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:02:04 +0100 Message-ID: <001d01bdab7c$d79e1d80$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980709204206.00d7f8bc@env-sol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > FYI, PDFWriter is also available for $29.95 with Acrobat Reader only. > > See: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readerwriter.html > > I guess Adobe finally heard all the requests for this combo > and decided that > it would help rather than hurt the sales of the full Acrobat product. I wish they hadn't. For one brief period you knew that if a person had Acrobat they had the tools they need. I now see a predictable stream of people who have the product and now want to know what to do about their Quark or PageMaker or FrameMaker file, or EPS graphics, or how to add links, or why PDFMaker doesn't work, or how to optimize or add their links or bookmarks or make the form fillable or merge two PDFs - the list, of course, is endless. They may have felt it was good value, but when they find they need to buy more they may just feel aggrieved, though no deliberate attempt has been made to hide the facts. The problem is helping people make an informed purchase choice. By and large the people buying it don't have the knowledge to do that. As a test marketing exercise it is interesting, but I have grim forebodings about the Acrobat product line fragmenting again. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 21:43:20-GMT,3106;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07268 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:43:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25494; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:26:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:23:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25215; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:23:24 -0500 From: duffj@document-solutions.com To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:26:56 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Aandi wrote.... > > FYI, PDFWriter is also available for $29.95 with Acrobat > Reader only. > > > > See: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readerwriter.html > > > > I guess Adobe finally heard all the requests for this combo > > and decided that > > it would help rather than hurt the sales of the full > Acrobat product. > > I wish they hadn't. For one brief period you knew that if a person > had Acrobat they had the tools they need. I now see a predictable > stream of people who have the product and now want to know what to > do about their Quark or PageMaker or FrameMaker file, or EPS graphics, > or how to add links, or why PDFMaker doesn't work, or how to > optimize or add their links or bookmarks or make the form fillable > or merge two PDFs - the list, of course, is endless. They may have > felt it was good value, but when they find they need to buy more > they may just feel aggrieved, though no deliberate attempt has been > made to hide the facts. I couldn't agree more! As a result of Adobe's "courtesy", I expect to be bombarded with people telling me that Adobe "lies" about PDFs capabilities, or that PDF quality "stinks", or that the files are ridiculously large -- etc, etc. > The problem is helping people make an informed purchase choice. > By and large the people buying it don't have the knowledge to do > that. As a test marketing exercise it is interesting, but I have > grim forebodings about the Acrobat product line fragmenting again. Yes, yes! Tell 'em, Aandi!!! Duff. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 21:53:46-GMT,2267;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07590 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:53:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25892; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:34:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:31:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25742; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:31:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:33:06 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com To Adobe's defense: It's good for organizations that put out a "call for Abstracts," especially if their format is simple and most authors are using word processors. I work with a print company, and you wouldn't believe how many organizations still accept Abstracts as hard copy, and paste them up into book format to create their conference proceedings. > -----Original Message----- > From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 1998 2:02 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity > > > > FYI, PDFWriter is also available for $29.95 with Acrobat Reader > only. > > > > See: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readerwriter.html > > > > I guess Adobe finally heard all the requests for this combo > > and decided that > > it would help rather than hurt the sales of the full Acrobat > product. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 21:58:17-GMT,5379;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07672 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:58:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26507; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:45:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:43:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26289; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:42:58 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDAB58.47093760@max1-158.max1.cll.infohwy.com> From: Ron Culp To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF: Old topics Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:40:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDAB58.47125F20" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDAB58.47125F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Come on Aandi and Duff; You guys know everything. Can't you help me out here? -----Original Message----- From: Ron Culp [SMTP:rfculp2@infohwy.com] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 1998 1:25 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF: Old topics I accidentally nuked my archive of old topics. Can anyone help me out = with 2 old problems? Bad b box errors and not-printing graphics? A point = in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. TIA. 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Swanson" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Crating a PDF from print files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I'm creating a PDF file from various print files provided by a vendor. I can't seem to get the PDF to capture the print files in the right order. For example, the title page and table of contents appear between Chapters 10 and 11. I've tried renaming the files, but nothing seems to work. Any way to fix this? Hopeless with a deadline _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 22:30:26-GMT,2436;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08327 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:30:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27788; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:11:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:08:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27609; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:08:38 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFwriter available by itself Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 23:08:31 +0100 Message-ID: <002801bdab86$1c58f040$0a3da8c0@davetemp.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980709204206.00d7f8bc@env-sol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > FYI, PDFWriter is also available for $29.95 with Acrobat Reader only. > > See: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readerwriter.html > > I guess Adobe finally heard all the requests for this combo and > decided that > it would help rather than hurt the sales of the full Acrobat product. USA only I note. What is wrong with us Europeans - other than the fact we are good at football - opps - sorry - soccer ;~) On a more serious note: Why does Adobe not extend its offers to Europe? Perhaps someone in Adobe can answer this one! drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 23:39:48-GMT,2612;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09628 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:39:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31089; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:24:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:22:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30972; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:22:05 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFwriter available by itself Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:19:03 +0100 Message-ID: <002301bdab90$5c712080$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002801bdab86$1c58f040$0a3da8c0@davetemp.docctrl.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > FYI, PDFWriter is also available for $29.95 with Acrobat > Reader only. ... > > USA only I note. What is wrong with us Europeans - other than > the fact we > are good at football - opps - sorry - soccer ;~) Actually I think the answer has more to do with the underdeveloped state of electronic commerce. These answers are based on discussions I've had on this topic, not a knowledge of Adobe's operations. Apparently, the US-based service providers who perform real-time validation of credit cards - the sort of thing you need to run commerce on a web site - can only do real-time validation of North American credit cards. Hence, US companies seeking to trade to the world - find that they can't! Of course, there are other ways of selling software, but this would seem to be an experiment in lightweight marketing. It could be sold through other channels, but the economics of software publishing in large companies suggest that Adobe couldn't get an empty box in the shops and make money on $29.95. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 23:40:18-GMT,2428;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09641 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:40:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31088; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:24:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:22:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30992; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:22:10 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Crating a PDF from print files Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:21:46 +0100 Message-ID: <002401bdab90$5de0dd20$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199807092209.RAA27686@everglades.binc.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > I'm creating a PDF file from various print files provided by > a vendor. I can't seem to get the PDF to capture the print > files in the right order. For example, the title page and > table of contents appear between Chapters 10 and 11. > > I've tried renaming the files, but nothing seems to work. You don't say how you are combining the files. Perhaps RunFile. Perhaps on a PC. On Windows, the order a set of files is processed is fairly hard to predict. It may be the order of the files in the directory - which is not alphabetical, but based on slots, and if you delete a file, slots are reused. If you EMPTY a directory, then copy files into it, ONE AT A TIME, you might find that some processes pick things up in the expected order. But why worry? You can shuffle pages using drag and drop of thumbnails in Acrobat Exchange. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 9-Jul-1998 23:50:08-GMT,5266;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09815 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:50:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31786; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:40:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:36:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31581; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:36:49 -0500 Message-ID: <35A55406.46DC4AF8@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 19:36:39 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity References: <8525663C.004F1A64.00@keybank.com> <199807091711.KAA11510@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA31578 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Dov, quick question, what is the newest PPD for wonderful NT 4.0. TIA Bob Moran Dov Isaacs wrote: > To reiterate THE official Adobe advice previously given on both the > PDF and the Framer's lists, for Windows'9X, use the AdobePS 4.2.3 > (or 4.2.2) driver (available for download from Adobe's web site) with > the Distiller PPD found in the \Acrobat3\Distillr\XTRAS subdirectory. > Any other combination is likely to cause significant problems in terms > of proper rendering of graphics and/or text objects as well as color. > > The AdobePS 4.1.x driver suffered from a generic Windows bug that caused > output to be monochrome if the default printer was a monochrome printer, > regardless of what the "current" printer (i.e., the printer instance > generating PostScript for distillation) is. > > PPDs for other PostScript devices result in very-device dependent PostScript > being generated. Such device dependent features may either result in > distillation failure because of PostScript errors and/or improperly rendered > results. > > Unfortunately, due to the timing of the original release of Acrobat 3.0, > the Distiller Assistant automatically associated itself with the default, > very buggy, PSCRIPT PostScript driver that originally shipped with Windows'9X. > If you have such an installation, you should delete the "Distiller" driver > from the Printers folder and use the AdobePS 4.2.3 setup program to create > a new printer instance to local device \distasst.ps using the Distiller PPD > per above. > > - Dov Isaacs > Director of Technology Analysis > Printing & Systems Division > Adobe Systems Incorporated > > At 7/9/98 09:35 AM , Scott Hamlow wrote: > >We use the Acrobat Distiller 3.0 PPD with Adobe PS 4.1 printer driver from > >Frame 5.1.2 on Win95 and it ALWAYS prints color. The only time it doesn't > >is when you select "Print spot color as black/white." > > > >I will however, echo Karen's comments about staying away from PDFwriter > >from Frame. You can do it, it just limits you so much more than just > >printing to a PS file then distilling > > > >At 10:31 AM 7/9/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>I found that Adobe's Postscript Driver turns FrameMaker documents into > >>black and white. I do not know why this happens. > >> > >>Avoid using PDF Writer for FrameMaker. It is intended for Microsoft Office > >>applications like Word and Excel. > >> > >>Good luck! > >> > >>--Karen > >> > >>bschreiber@livepicture.com on 07/09/98 10:04:52 AM > >> > >>Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >> > >>To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, nina@livepicture.com, > >> bschreiber@livepicture.com > >>cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) > >>Subject: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity > >> > >>I'm trying to generate a PDF from a FrameMaker file, but I get either > >>b/w screen captures (instead of color), or color screen captures but > >>fuzzy text, or nice screen captures and text but no bookmarks (depending > >>on what printer driver I'm using. PDFWriter gives me everything but the > >>bookmarks). > >>Can someone tell me how to solve this problem? > >>Thanks > >>Benzi > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 0:06:44-GMT,2872;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10134 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:06:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32284; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:51:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:47:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA32113; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:47:49 -0500 Message-ID: <35A5569B.C412B386@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 19:47:39 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Crating a PDF from print files References: <199807092209.RAA27686@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA32110 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com You can easily change the order of pages by going to the thumnail view in Exchange and selecting the pages in question and click/dragging them to the right location. Please note that when you have reached the right page number, go above or below that specific page (a black bar indicated where the pages will go) and let go. The pages will drop into the right spot. This works every time. HTH Bob Moran Maribel Q. Swanson wrote: > I'm creating a PDF file from various print files provided by > a vendor. I can't seem to get the PDF to capture the print > files in the right order. For example, the title page and > table of contents appear between Chapters 10 and 11. > > I've tried renaming the files, but nothing seems to work. > > Any way to fix this? > > Hopeless with a deadline > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 0:22:44-GMT,1978;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10395 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:22:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00415; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:10:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:06:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00202; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:06:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199807100006.RAA28791@cuckoo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:00:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >Apparently, I do not have the ICC profile; so, if anyone knows where Adobe >may provide this file please let me know. Otherwise, I will continue to >search the Adobe site. > >--Karen The Adobe site for Downloadable files for all platforms is located at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/download.html Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 0:22:50-GMT,6247;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10400 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:22:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00122; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:05:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:01:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA32723; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:01:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199807100001.RAA19272@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:01:07 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <35A55406.46DC4AF8@kiwi.futuris.net> References: <8525663C.004F1A64.00@keybank.com> <199807091711.KAA11510@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA32720 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com YWIA There isn't a "newest PPD" for Windows NT 4.0. The PPD is the exact same PPD used for Windows'9X. We have posted AdobePS 5.0 for Windows NT 4.0 on our Web site. I "suspect" that updates to that driver with some bug fixes will be available in the not too distant future. For better or worse, at this point, I personally believe that NT is not yet ready for prime time in terms of desktop use. Windows'9X still has the better drivers and other facilities. This should be remedied by NT 5.0. - Dov At 7/9/98 04:36 PM , Robert E. Moran wrote: >Dov, quick question, what is the newest PPD for wonderful NT 4.0. TIA > >Bob Moran > >Dov Isaacs wrote: > >> To reiterate THE official Adobe advice previously given on both the >> PDF and the Framer's lists, for Windows'9X, use the AdobePS 4.2.3 >> (or 4.2.2) driver (available for download from Adobe's web site) with >> the Distiller PPD found in the \Acrobat3\Distillr\XTRAS subdirectory. >> Any other combination is likely to cause significant problems in terms >> of proper rendering of graphics and/or text objects as well as color. >> >> The AdobePS 4.1.x driver suffered from a generic Windows bug that caused >> output to be monochrome if the default printer was a monochrome printer, >> regardless of what the "current" printer (i.e., the printer instance >> generating PostScript for distillation) is. >> >> PPDs for other PostScript devices result in very-device dependent PostScript >> being generated. Such device dependent features may either result in >> distillation failure because of PostScript errors and/or improperly rendered >> results. >> >> Unfortunately, due to the timing of the original release of Acrobat 3.0, >> the Distiller Assistant automatically associated itself with the default, >> very buggy, PSCRIPT PostScript driver that originally shipped with Windows'9X. >> If you have such an installation, you should delete the "Distiller" driver >> from the Printers folder and use the AdobePS 4.2.3 setup program to create >> a new printer instance to local device \distasst.ps using the Distiller PPD >> per above. >> >> - Dov Isaacs >> Director of Technology Analysis >> Printing & Systems Division >> Adobe Systems Incorporated >> >> At 7/9/98 09:35 AM , Scott Hamlow wrote: >> >We use the Acrobat Distiller 3.0 PPD with Adobe PS 4.1 printer driver from >> >Frame 5.1.2 on Win95 and it ALWAYS prints color. The only time it doesn't >> >is when you select "Print spot color as black/white." >> > >> >I will however, echo Karen's comments about staying away from PDFwriter >> >from Frame. You can do it, it just limits you so much more than just >> >printing to a PS file then distilling >> > >> >At 10:31 AM 7/9/98 -0400, you wrote: >> >>I found that Adobe's Postscript Driver turns FrameMaker documents into >> >>black and white. I do not know why this happens. >> >> >> >>Avoid using PDF Writer for FrameMaker. It is intended for Microsoft Office >> >>applications like Word and Excel. >> >> >> >>Good luck! >> >> >> >>--Karen >> >> >> >>bschreiber@livepicture.com on 07/09/98 10:04:52 AM >> >> >> >>Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >> >> >>To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, nina@livepicture.com, >> >> bschreiber@livepicture.com >> >>cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) >> >>Subject: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity >> >> >> >>I'm trying to generate a PDF from a FrameMaker file, but I get either >> >>b/w screen captures (instead of color), or color screen captures but >> >>fuzzy text, or nice screen captures and text but no bookmarks (depending >> >>on what printer driver I'm using. PDFWriter gives me everything but the >> >>bookmarks). >> >>Can someone tell me how to solve this problem? >> >>Thanks >> >>Benzi >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >> * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >> "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >> _______________________________________________ > > > >-- >Robert E. Moran >Digital Constructs Inc. >759 North Park Avenue >Redding, CT 06896 >Tel 203-452-1116 >203-452-8085 >Fax: 203-452-0416 >E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com >URL: www.dconstructs.com >“Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” ­ Henry Miller > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 0:22:52-GMT,1942;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10404 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:22:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00427; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:10:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:06:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00229; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:06:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199807100006.RAA28813@cuckoo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:06:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF: Old topics From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >I accidentally nuked my archive of old topics. Can anyone help me out with 2 old problems? Bad b box errors and not-printing graphics? A point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. > > >TIA. > >Ron > Have you tried the PDF-L Forum Archives at http://wuecon.wustl.edu/~pdfl/. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 0:23:34-GMT,6755;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10409 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:23:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00548; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:13:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:09:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00369; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:09:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199807100001.RAA19272@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:01:07 -0700 Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <35A55406.46DC4AF8@kiwi.futuris.net> References: <8525663C.004F1A64.00@keybank.com> <199807091711.KAA11510@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA32720 URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com YWIA There isn't a "newest PPD" for Windows NT 4.0. The PPD is the exact same PPD used for Windows'9X. We have posted AdobePS 5.0 for Windows NT 4.0 on our Web site. I "suspect" that updates to that driver with some bug fixes will be available in the not too distant future. For better or worse, at this point, I personally believe that NT is not yet ready for prime time in terms of desktop use. Windows'9X still has the better drivers and other facilities. This should be remedied by NT 5.0. - Dov At 7/9/98 04:36 PM , Robert E. Moran wrote: >Dov, quick question, what is the newest PPD for wonderful NT 4.0. TIA > >Bob Moran > >Dov Isaacs wrote: > >> To reiterate THE official Adobe advice previously given on both the >> PDF and the Framer's lists, for Windows'9X, use the AdobePS 4.2.3 >> (or 4.2.2) driver (available for download from Adobe's web site) with >> the Distiller PPD found in the \Acrobat3\Distillr\XTRAS subdirectory. >> Any other combination is likely to cause significant problems in terms >> of proper rendering of graphics and/or text objects as well as color. >> >> The AdobePS 4.1.x driver suffered from a generic Windows bug that caused >> output to be monochrome if the default printer was a monochrome printer, >> regardless of what the "current" printer (i.e., the printer instance >> generating PostScript for distillation) is. >> >> PPDs for other PostScript devices result in very-device dependent PostScript >> being generated. Such device dependent features may either result in >> distillation failure because of PostScript errors and/or improperly rendered >> results. >> >> Unfortunately, due to the timing of the original release of Acrobat 3.0, >> the Distiller Assistant automatically associated itself with the default, >> very buggy, PSCRIPT PostScript driver that originally shipped with Windows'9X. >> If you have such an installation, you should delete the "Distiller" driver >> from the Printers folder and use the AdobePS 4.2.3 setup program to create >> a new printer instance to local device \distasst.ps using the Distiller PPD >> per above. >> >> - Dov Isaacs >> Director of Technology Analysis >> Printing & Systems Division >> Adobe Systems Incorporated >> >> At 7/9/98 09:35 AM , Scott Hamlow wrote: >> >We use the Acrobat Distiller 3.0 PPD with Adobe PS 4.1 printer driver from >> >Frame 5.1.2 on Win95 and it ALWAYS prints color. The only time it doesn't >> >is when you select "Print spot color as black/white." >> > >> >I will however, echo Karen's comments about staying away from PDFwriter >> >from Frame. You can do it, it just limits you so much more than just >> >printing to a PS file then distilling >> > >> >At 10:31 AM 7/9/98 -0400, you wrote: >> >>I found that Adobe's Postscript Driver turns FrameMaker documents into >> >>black and white. I do not know why this happens. >> >> >> >>Avoid using PDF Writer for FrameMaker. It is intended for Microsoft Office >> >>applications like Word and Excel. >> >> >> >>Good luck! >> >> >> >>--Karen >> >> >> >>bschreiber@livepicture.com on 07/09/98 10:04:52 AM >> >> >> >>Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >> >> >>To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, nina@livepicture.com, >> >> bschreiber@livepicture.com >> >>cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) >> >>Subject: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity >> >> >> >>I'm trying to generate a PDF from a FrameMaker file, but I get either >> >>b/w screen captures (instead of color), or color screen captures but >> >>fuzzy text, or nice screen captures and text but no bookmarks (depending >> >>on what printer driver I'm using. PDFWriter gives me everything but the >> >>bookmarks). >> >>Can someone tell me how to solve this problem? >> >>Thanks >> >>Benzi >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >> * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >> "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >> _______________________________________________ > > > >-- >Robert E. Moran >Digital Constructs Inc. >759 North Park Avenue >Redding, CT 06896 >Tel 203-452-1116 >203-452-8085 >Fax: 203-452-0416 >E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com >URL: www.dconstructs.com >“Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” ­ Henry Miller > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 0:28:05-GMT,2205;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10526 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00617; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:14:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:11:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00480; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:11:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199807100011.RAA01408@cuckoo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:12:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA00477 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >I heard about a printer driver which captures any printer output (from Word, Corel, whatever) and sends it to a PDF file, but I couldn't find it at Adobe's. > >Can anyone help me? > >Thank you all, > >-- >Ricardo Monteiro >Quality Manager >REIVAX Automaçăo e Controle >Voice/fax (+55-48) 334-9000 >http://www.reivax.com.br >mailto:info@reivax.com.br The AdobePS 4.2.3 printer driver is available at http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/pdrvwin.htm PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 6:20:14-GMT,1712;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18042 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12601; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:59:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:55:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12454; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:55:15 -0500 Message-ID: <35A5ACA3.E87B468C@fcollins.com.au> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:54:44 +1000 From: Norman McGreevy Organization: Franklin Collins Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Touch-Up and parse problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I am getting an error message in Exchange 3.0 when I try to select text "Touch-Up could not parse this page". The document was created from Word using the pdf macro. I have tried varying the fonts but this does not make any difference. Any suggestions. Regards Norman M. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 8:57:17-GMT,2492;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20918 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 02:57:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17254; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:44:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:39:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17116; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:39:48 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:12:38 PDT." <199807100011.RAA01408@cuckoo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:39:39 +0100 Message-ID: <16242.900059979@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:12:38 PDT, "C. Scott Miller" wrote: > >I heard about a printer driver which captures any printer output (from= > Word, Corel, whatever) and sends it to a PDF file, but I couldn't find = it at > Adobe's. > > > >Can anyone help me? > > > >Thank you all, > > > >-- = > >Ricardo Monteiro > >Quality Manager > >REIVAX Automa=E7=E3o e Controle > >Voice/fax (+55-48) 334-9000 > >http://www.reivax.com.br > >mailto:info@reivax.com.br > = > The AdobePS 4.2.3 printer driver is available at > http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/pdrvwin.htm That "only" produces PostScript; the original poster wanted to print = directly to PDF, which is achieved with Adobe's PDFwriter. If you are using Windows 95 then Adobe sell a package of PDFwriter with = Acrobat Reader for US $29.95. You can also buy the complete Acrobat package from Adobe (for = Macintosh, various Unixes, and Windows), which contains PDFwriter as = well as Acrobat Exchange, Acrobat Distiller and Acrobat Catalog (sic). = This package costs US $295. Chris _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 11:19:42-GMT,2901;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23428 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 05:19:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21209; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:02:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 05:52:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20865; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 05:52:13 -0500 Message-ID: <35A5F2D4.A8D9B8B4@reivax.com.br> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:54:12 -0300 From: Ricardo Monteiro Organization: REIVAX Automaçăo e Controle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFwriter available by itself References: <002801bdab86$1c58f040$0a3da8c0@davetemp.docctrl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Yes, it must have something to do with soccer - I'm from Brazil, and I can't buy that either. David Cornwell wrote: > > > FYI, PDFWriter is also available for $29.95 with Acrobat Reader only. > > > > See: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readerwriter.html > > > > I guess Adobe finally heard all the requests for this combo and > > decided that > > it would help rather than hurt the sales of the full Acrobat product. > > USA only I note. What is wrong with us Europeans - other than the fact we > are good at football - opps - sorry - soccer ;~) > > On a more serious note: Why does Adobe not extend its offers to Europe? > Perhaps someone in Adobe can answer this one! > > drc > --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ -- Ricardo Monteiro Quality Manager REIVAX Automaçăo e Controle Voice/fax (+55-48) 334-9000 http://www.reivax.com.br mailto:info@reivax.com.br _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 13:05:16-GMT,2354;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25205 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:05:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25415; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:46:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:45:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25341; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:45:17 -0500 Message-ID: <35A5FF44.1389E8A4@realworld.com.au> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:47:20 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFwriter available by itself References: <002801bdab86$1c58f040$0a3da8c0@davetemp.docctrl.com> <35A5F2D4.A8D9B8B4@reivax.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Ricardo Monteiro wrote: > Yes, it must have something to do with soccer - I'm from Brazil, and I can't buy that either. > > David Cornwell wrote: > > > > > FYI, PDFWriter is also available for $29.95 with Acrobat Reader only. > > > > > > See: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readerwriter.html > > > > > > I guess Adobe finally heard all the requests for this combo and > > > decided that > > > it would help rather than hurt the sales of the full Acrobat product. > > > > USA only I note. What is wrong with us Europeans - other than the fact we > > are good at football - opps - sorry - soccer ;~) I can tell you that there is no joy for followers of "real" football (Aussie Rules) Down Under in the antipodes, we miss out also. Damm Yankee imperialism !!! :-) Dean _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 13:19:05-GMT,2347;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25484 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:19:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26464; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:08:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:07:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26389; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:07:06 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFwriter available by itself In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:47:20 +1100." <35A5FF44.1389E8A4@realworld.com.au> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:06:58 +0100 Message-ID: <17672.900076018@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:47:20 +1100, Dean Laffan wrote: > > > Ricardo Monteiro wrote: > > > Yes, it must have something to do with soccer - I'm from Brazil, and I can't buy that either. > > > > David Cornwell wrote: > > > > > > > FYI, PDFWriter is also available for $29.95 with Acrobat Reader only. > > > > > > > > See: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readerwriter.html > > > > > > > > I guess Adobe finally heard all the requests for this combo and > > > > decided that > > > > it would help rather than hurt the sales of the full Acrobat product. > > > > > > USA only I note. What is wrong with us Europeans - other than the fact we > > > are good at football - opps - sorry - soccer ;~) > > > > I can tell you that there is no joy for followers of "real" football (Aussie Rules) Down Under > in the antipodes, we miss out also. The one where the rules go: "throw the ball in the air, and have a fight" ? ;-) > Damm Yankee imperialism !!! :-) :-) Chris _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 14:12:26-GMT,7029;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26880 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:12:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28869; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:57:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:56:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28762; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:56:10 -0500 Message-ID: <35A61D6F.8DA5EF3F@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:55:59 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity References: <8525663C.004F1A64.00@keybank.com> <199807091711.KAA11510@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> <199807100001.RAA19272@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA28759 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Thanks for the info. Bob Moran Dov Isaacs wrote: > YWIA > > There isn't a "newest PPD" for Windows NT 4.0. The PPD is the > exact same PPD used for Windows'9X. We have posted AdobePS 5.0 > for Windows NT 4.0 on our Web site. I "suspect" that updates to > that driver with some bug fixes will be available in the not too > distant future. For better or worse, at this point, I personally > believe that NT is not yet ready for prime time in terms of > desktop use. Windows'9X still has the better drivers and other > facilities. This should be remedied by NT 5.0. > > - Dov > > At 7/9/98 04:36 PM , Robert E. Moran wrote: > >Dov, quick question, what is the newest PPD for wonderful NT 4.0. TIA > > > >Bob Moran > > > >Dov Isaacs wrote: > > > >> To reiterate THE official Adobe advice previously given on both the > >> PDF and the Framer's lists, for Windows'9X, use the AdobePS 4.2.3 > >> (or 4.2.2) driver (available for download from Adobe's web site) with > >> the Distiller PPD found in the \Acrobat3\Distillr\XTRAS subdirectory. > >> Any other combination is likely to cause significant problems in terms > >> of proper rendering of graphics and/or text objects as well as color. > >> > >> The AdobePS 4.1.x driver suffered from a generic Windows bug that caused > >> output to be monochrome if the default printer was a monochrome printer, > >> regardless of what the "current" printer (i.e., the printer instance > >> generating PostScript for distillation) is. > >> > >> PPDs for other PostScript devices result in very-device dependent PostScript > >> being generated. Such device dependent features may either result in > >> distillation failure because of PostScript errors and/or improperly rendered > >> results. > >> > >> Unfortunately, due to the timing of the original release of Acrobat 3.0, > >> the Distiller Assistant automatically associated itself with the default, > >> very buggy, PSCRIPT PostScript driver that originally shipped with Windows'9X. > >> If you have such an installation, you should delete the "Distiller" driver > >> from the Printers folder and use the AdobePS 4.2.3 setup program to create > >> a new printer instance to local device \distasst.ps using the Distiller PPD > >> per above. > >> > >> - Dov Isaacs > >> Director of Technology Analysis > >> Printing & Systems Division > >> Adobe Systems Incorporated > >> > >> At 7/9/98 09:35 AM , Scott Hamlow wrote: > >> >We use the Acrobat Distiller 3.0 PPD with Adobe PS 4.1 printer driver from > >> >Frame 5.1.2 on Win95 and it ALWAYS prints color. The only time it doesn't > >> >is when you select "Print spot color as black/white." > >> > > >> >I will however, echo Karen's comments about staying away from PDFwriter > >> >from Frame. You can do it, it just limits you so much more than just > >> >printing to a PS file then distilling > >> > > >> >At 10:31 AM 7/9/98 -0400, you wrote: > >> >>I found that Adobe's Postscript Driver turns FrameMaker documents into > >> >>black and white. I do not know why this happens. > >> >> > >> >>Avoid using PDF Writer for FrameMaker. It is intended for Microsoft Office > >> >>applications like Word and Excel. > >> >> > >> >>Good luck! > >> >> > >> >>--Karen > >> >> > >> >>bschreiber@livepicture.com on 07/09/98 10:04:52 AM > >> >> > >> >>Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >> >> > >> >>To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, nina@livepicture.com, > >> >> bschreiber@livepicture.com > >> >>cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) > >> >>Subject: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity > >> >> > >> >>I'm trying to generate a PDF from a FrameMaker file, but I get either > >> >>b/w screen captures (instead of color), or color screen captures but > >> >>fuzzy text, or nice screen captures and text but no bookmarks (depending > >> >>on what printer driver I'm using. PDFWriter gives me everything but the > >> >>bookmarks). > >> >>Can someone tell me how to solve this problem? > >> >>Thanks > >> >>Benzi > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > >> * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > >> "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > >-- > >Robert E. Moran > >Digital Constructs Inc. > >759 North Park Avenue > >Redding, CT 06896 > >Tel 203-452-1116 > >203-452-8085 > >Fax: 203-452-0416 > >E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com > >URL: www.dconstructs.com > >“Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” ­ Henry Miller > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >_______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 15:59:39-GMT,2302;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29644 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:59:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01028; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:38:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:36:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00908; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:36:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] printing multiple pages/sheet of paper Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:35:21 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Try the Adobe Postscript Printer Driver 4.1.2 or 4.2.3 (ADOBEPS4.DRV) and on the paper tab choose 4-up under layout. Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: patane@syrres.com[SMTP:patane@syrres.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 1998 7:41 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] printing multiple pages/sheet of paper > > Is there anything that will allow me to print multiple pages/page? > example, printing a 400 pg PDf on 100 pieces of paper (tiling 4 pages > on one > printed sheet) > > preferably something freely available since I don. > > -Brett > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 17:37:24-GMT,2206;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02784 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 11:37:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06088; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:18:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:16:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05946; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:16:39 -0500 Message-ID: <81E713C85DDCD011B2F500805F317CFB010F037E@xch-rtn-14.ca.boeing.com> From: "Hayhurst, Stephen D" Subject: [PDF] Prologue and Epilogue file information Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:16:22 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Good morning: I am looking for additional information on using the Prologue and Epilogue PostScript files beyond that which is provided by the on-line documentation as well as the examples included with the CD-ROM. In particular, I am looking to investigate using them for creating templated PDF files. Any additional information or examples would be greatly appreciated. Regards, --Steve Hayhurst _______________________________________ Stephen Hayhurst Process & Marketing Support Analyst--CamTek Bldg 10-65.2 26D8 phone: 425.965.1124 or page: 206.986.3048 E-mail: stephen.hayhurst@pss.boeing.com or 2069863048@mobile.att.net Standard Disclaimer applies. ======================================================= > Win95 and Haiku: Crash. Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your > screams. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 18:19:23-GMT,1623;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04188 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:19:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08955; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:02:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:00:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08820; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:00:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing zoomed images Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 11:04:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Has anybody been able to determine if one can print the "zoomed view" of an image (vs. typical 100% page layout)? I have a few clients that have asked for this feature to allow them to print an enlarged version of an area of their choosing. Sam Jessup _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 19:38:59-GMT,2295;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06058 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12452; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:20:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:18:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12326; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:18:49 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825663D.006A9C93.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:26:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing zoomed images Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com If you zoom, select TOOLS>SELECT GRAPHICS from the menu bar, copy this into a wordprocessor - it's copied in "zoomed" and prints at that size. I don't know of any way to zoom and print from Exchange or Reader. SueG "Jessup, Samuel" on 07/10/98 11:04:36 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Printing zoomed images Has anybody been able to determine if one can print the "zoomed view" of an image (vs. typical 100% page layout)? I have a few clients that have asked for this feature to allow them to print an enlarged version of an area of their choosing. Sam Jessup _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 20:21:23-GMT,3104;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07041 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:21:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14201; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:03:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:02:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14114; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:02:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing zoomed images Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:06:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Thank you Sue, Your suggestion was helpful. I hadn't thought of that. I also found that images saved from Adobe Illustrator (using that method) actually seem to retain a sharp image. Not perfect, but not bad. As opposed to an enlarged tiff or jpg, etc. that pixelates according to the enlargement. Sam Jessup -----Original Message----- From: sgililland@nexstar.com [mailto:sgililland@nexstar.com] Sent: Friday, July 10, 1998 12:27 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing zoomed images If you zoom, select TOOLS>SELECT GRAPHICS from the menu bar, copy this into a wordprocessor - it's copied in "zoomed" and prints at that size. I don't know of any way to zoom and print from Exchange or Reader. SueG "Jessup, Samuel" on 07/10/98 11:04:36 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Printing zoomed images Has anybody been able to determine if one can print the "zoomed view" of an image (vs. typical 100% page layout)? I have a few clients that have asked for this feature to allow them to print an enlarged version of an area of their choosing. Sam Jessup _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 21:50:08-GMT,1797;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09589 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:50:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17669; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:33:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:31:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17585; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:31:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Ostiguy To: "'PDF Forum'" Subject: [PDF] #$@# Spot Colors!!! HELP!! Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:33:59 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Need some quick help... I have a job that is black + pantone color. Separates ok, but text is k/o of light background screens instead of overprinting. What gives????? Steve Ostiguy Imaging Supervisor- CtP Production St. Joseph Printing Ltd. sostiguy@stjoseph.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 22:55:45-GMT,1954;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10639 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:55:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20158; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:40:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:37:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20017; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:37:55 -0500 From: intense@pro.net Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980710224054.010823dc@pro.net> X-Sender: intense@pro.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:40:54 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] #$@# Spot Colors!!! HELP!! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Choice A; (a) export this as an EPS file out of exchange (b) Place in Quark (i hope you have the PS utilities XTension its freeware) and print the page with the overprint option on. Choice B; (a) depending on complexity and fonts, open the page in Illustrator 7 and manually adjust the text to overprint (b) save as eps, place in Quark/Pagemaker and output try these and good luck Intense Software #310 - 3495 Cambie Street Vancouver, BC Canada V5Z 4R3 E-mail: intense@pro.net Toll-Free: 1-888-251-3586 Ph: 604-244-3501 Fax: 604-267-1125 Order Securely Online @ www.intensesoftware.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 22:56:07-GMT,2630;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10650 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:56:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20447; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:47:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:46:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20381; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:46:13 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] A Bit Off Topic: typefaces in TurboCad? Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:45:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hey All - Anyone out there familiar with TurboCad for Windows 95? I am attempting to distill an excel workbook that contains OLE images from TurboCad using PDFWriter. I'm getting some "Bad Bounding Box" error messages in the resulting PDF indicating that Times New Roman is causing a problem. Also, the callouts on some, not all of the images start flying apart like alphabet soup, or disappearing altogether. However, when the file is printed on the HP LJ 5si postscript, the fonts seem to iron out. I didn't make these files, and don't have TurboCad on my machine, but I will be working with the person who made the files to resolve the distilling issues. We both print to the same printer, so it seems to me that she should have Helvetica available as a printer font. She's reporting to me that she doesn't, though I haven't seen it for myself. My thinking is that if I change her callouts to Helvetica from whatever they are in, which is both Times New Roman and Arial and maybe other True Type stuff, that the "blowing" up problems may disappear. The fact that the document prints well seems like good information, but I may not be inferring the right cause to the problem. Thanks for any help - Rebecca _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 10-Jul-1998 23:09:51-GMT,1711;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10989 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:09:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21113; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:01:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:59:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20972; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:59:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Ostiguy To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] #$@# Spot Colors!!! HELP!! Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:01:29 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Is this an issue with PDF? does this happen to all text overprints all the time?? How do people get around this issue? PDF has to honour black overprints....that is an element >in 90% of the pages assembled!!! _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 11-Jul-1998 0:43:59-GMT,3235;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12829 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:43:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24136; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:32:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:27:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23952; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:27:32 -0500 Message-ID: <35A6B16A.74209649@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:27:22 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing zoomed images References: <8825663D.006A9C93.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA23949 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Try cropping the page and then print. It should work. Don't woryy, cropping is a non destructive command. HTH Bob Moran sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > If you zoom, select TOOLS>SELECT GRAPHICS from the menu bar, copy this into > a wordprocessor - it's copied in "zoomed" and prints at that size. I don't > know of any way to zoom and print from Exchange or Reader. > SueG > > "Jessup, Samuel" on 07/10/98 11:04:36 AM > > Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" > cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) > Subject: [PDF] Printing zoomed images > > Has anybody been able to determine if one can print the "zoomed view" of > an image (vs. typical 100% page layout)? > I have a few clients that have asked for this feature to allow them to > print an enlarged version of an area of their choosing. > Sam Jessup > _______________________________________________ > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 11-Jul-1998 4:39:39-GMT,2026;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA16801 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:39:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA31338; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:25:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:20:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA31129; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:20:47 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825663D.0057218E.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:02:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFwriter available by itself Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > David Cornwell wrote: > > USA only I note. What is wrong with us Europeans - other than the fact we > > are good at football - opps - sorry - soccer ;~) ------------ > Dean wrote: > > I can tell you that there is no joy for followers of "real" football (Aussie Rules) > > > Down Under > > in the antipodes, we miss out also. Damm Yankee imperialism !!! :-) Dean ---------------------- Who cares about "foot" - ball, we invented "hoops" - Basketball rules.... maybe we should get "Sir" Charles Barkley to play again for the "Dream Team" Maybe Adobe didn't want to deal with the new "Euro" or something... Its Damn Yankee "capital"-ism .... ;0) _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 11-Jul-1998 4:39:39-GMT,1973;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA16804 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:39:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA31337; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:25:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:19:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA31059; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:19:55 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825663D.0058F529.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:16:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity & WINDOZE N(o)T Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com -DOVE ISAACS WROTE: > For better or worse, at this point, I personally > believe that NT is not yet ready for prime time in terms of > desktop use. -- Out of curiousity, why does Windoze N(o)T not have more "desktop" use? You would think that a "powerful" OS would just phase out Win95. BTW, I used Windoze N(o)T 3.51 and now 95. 95 is much more stable than the so called "multi-threading" of Windoze N(o)T. My horrible experience of the computer crashing 5 times a day in Windoze N(o)T has cause me to say "dont believe the hype" about NT. 95 runs all the apps. NT doesn't. -rob _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 11-Jul-1998 13:14:43-GMT,3444;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25758 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 07:14:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12772; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 07:56:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Jul 1998 07:50:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12595; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 07:50:07 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] #$@# Spot Colors!!! HELP!! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 13:48:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdacca$639321c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Is this an issue with PDF? does this happen to > all text overprints > all the time?? > How do people get around this issue? PDF has to honour black > overprints....that is an element > >in 90% of the pages assembled!!! It's possible for an application to make black overprints in a way compatible with composite workflows, but QuarkXPress isn't one of those. It isn't really a PDF issue, though PDF brings it into sharp relief. It is an issue with composite workflows of any kind. Adobe's specification says that 0-0-0-100 CMYK will not overprint, ever, nor will 100% K, but you can overprint 100% process black. Adobe RIPs will not therefore overprint in these circumstances if you send a composite image. Harlequin RIPs take a more pragmatic/useful/wrong (depending on who you ask) view of honouring an overprint of 0-0-0-100 CMYK. You missed a prolonged episode of finger pointing in the PDF-Prepress list, which you will find a more informed place to discuss this sort of issue. I think Adobe would argue that overprinting in these circumstances is obsolescent and that you should be using in-RIP trapping. If you can. Personally, I think some very regrettable decisions were made (back before 1990, when this was set in stone). It also shows that what is vital to one person is irrelevant to others, because remarkably few people ever notice or comment on this issue. Indeed I've been shouted at by people demanding to know "why the picture shows through this text". Intiutively, and with no real evidence, I suspect that the effect of black overprinting/not overprinting is not especially noticeable in the majority of printing situations, because any tiny haloes around the text do not really impinge on the consciousness of the viewer in the way that a line between coloured elements might. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 11-Jul-1998 16:16:25-GMT,2250;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28875 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:16:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17823; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:37:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:34:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17703; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:34:50 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 11:41:10 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: RE: [PDF] #$@# Spot Colors!!! HELP!! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Is this an issue with PDF? does this happen to > all text overprints > all the time?? > How do people get around this issue? PDF has to honour black > overprints....that is an element > >in 90% of the pages assembled!!! I hope I'm on topic with this reply: In Adobe Illustrator, I've used "layers" for my artwork in creating PDF files to accomodate Overprint in black. As the Acrobat PDF "redraws" on screen it reassembles the artwork from the bottome layer to the top. Very effective in my topographic mapping. If you have text over photgraph, import the image into Illustrator as the botom layer. Users viewing my PDFs have asked me how do I get my PDFs to redraw in this way. USE LAYERs. I haven't tried film output from these files. Has anyone else tried this? Quark Xpress or other DTP programs won't do this (Haven't tried Quark 4.0 which has layering capabilites). Good Luck Murray _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 11-Jul-1998 16:46:10-GMT,1909;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29448 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:46:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19621; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 11:31:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Jul 1998 11:29:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19534; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 11:29:12 -0500 Message-ID: <4F36FD44E740D011A36E0020AFF06096013C312A@mail.cc.nih.gov> From: "Downie, Julia (CC/ISD)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] IIS and PDF Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 12:29:13 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We're getting very quirky results indexing with the Adobe PDF filter and Microsoft Site Server Search. Files that index one time will not the next. We've explored the avenue of Mac-produced vs.PC-produced, TrueType vs Type 1, timing (we had to raise the timeout to about 3 minutes), and kicked the number of simultaneous files down to one. Site Server is running on a Pentium with 96MB of RAM with nothing much else happening on that machine; because it's a test machine, there isn't even any traffic on it. Any suggestions? Thanks, Julie Downie CC/NIH jdownie@cc.nih.gov _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 11-Jul-1998 21:45:03-GMT,2436;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04684 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 15:45:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28204; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:33:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:30:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27986; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:30:00 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDAD23.AB7E8CA0.ecrisa@iol.it> From: Ester Crisanti To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Interleaf WordlView to PDF Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 23:28:35 +0200 X-Mailer: Posta elettronica Internet di Microsoft/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I'm trying to convert some Interleaf documents to PDF format, using WordView. My documents contain A3 landscape and A4 portrait formats. Using 1. PDFWriter 3.02 on Windows NT I get problems with the page size. 2. pl2ps (versione 6.2 and 6.3) utility on Windows NT I get problems with the page size. 3. WorldViewPress I get several files in different directories BUT the page size is correct! I don't want to use the third solution because I can't get control over the generation of PDF files (too many in too many directories). I need to use the second one but I'm not able to get the right PDF file. Thanks Ester Crisanti ================================================== Ester Crisanti ecrisa@iol.it portatile: 0348-2259628 fax: 02-8051237 tel: 02-8690143 ================================================== ================================================== Ester Crisanti ecrisa@iol.it portatile: 0348-2259628 fax: 02-8051237 tel: 02-8690143 ================================================== _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 1:21:06-GMT,3070;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08517 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 19:21:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01884; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:07:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:06:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01830; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:06:14 -0500 Message-ID: <35A81A1C.65C952FD@empa.ch> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:06:21 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity References: <35A4CE04.462AD69E@livepicture.com> <35A4D5FD.9C5A490D@reivax.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Ricardo, It seems your output format is A3 or something like 11 x 18" and your resolution setting in Distiller is 2400 dpi. With this situation I had the problem you run in when you did your PDF out of PageMaker 6.5. Just put the resolution setting down to 1800 dpi and your right page won't be cut anymore. Erwin Ricardo Monteiro wrote: > I'm new to this list, so I apologize if my question has been submitted before. > > I have put some catalogues for my company's products in our home page, but I would like to use PDF formats, because they are much smaller than MS-Word or Corel. > > I tried PageMaker 6.5, but it didn't generate a good PDF file (it cut the image at the right page, as if the right page was set too large). Corel Draw 7 says it exports to PDF, but the fonts come out > too large, out of the paper limits, and there is not setting for this. and I wouldn't want to buy a software without knowing if it works or not. > > I heard about a printer driver which captures any printer output (from Word, Corel, whatever) and sends it to a PDF file, but I couldn't find it at Adobe's. > > Can anyone help me? > > Thank you all, > > -- > Ricardo Monteiro > Quality Manager > REIVAX Automaçăo e Controle > Voice/fax (+55-48) 334-9000 > http://www.reivax.com.br > mailto:info@reivax.com.br > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 1:24:46-GMT,2947;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08613 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 19:24:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02157; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:16:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:16:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02123; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:16:08 -0500 Message-ID: <35A81C5C.27B4826D@empa.ch> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:15:57 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Prologue and Epilogue file information References: <81E713C85DDCD011B2F500805F317CFB010F037E@xch-rtn-14.ca.boeing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Stephen, To my knowledge the two files Prologue and Epilogue are used to create spot colors in PDF. Both files have to be in the same folder as Distiller. To my experience there is a bug in Distiller 3.02 that prevents from creating spot colors. If you need spot colors you have to use Distiller 3.0. Erwin Hayhurst, Stephen D wrote: > Good morning: > > I am looking for additional information on using the Prologue and > Epilogue PostScript files beyond that which is provided by the on-line > documentation as well as the examples included with the CD-ROM. > > In particular, I am looking to investigate using them for creating > templated PDF files. Any additional information or examples would be > greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > --Steve Hayhurst > _______________________________________ > Stephen Hayhurst > Process & Marketing Support Analyst--CamTek > Bldg 10-65.2 26D8 phone: 425.965.1124 or page: 206.986.3048 > E-mail: stephen.hayhurst@pss.boeing.com or 2069863048@mobile.att.net > Standard Disclaimer applies. > ======================================================= > > Win95 and Haiku: Crash. Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your > > screams. > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 1:54:30-GMT,1525;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09107 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 19:54:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03022; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:43:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:42:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02977; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:42:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199807120142.UAA02977@everglades.binc.net> From: flex@interport.net Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:31:12 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Simple Question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I am very new to pdfs and using them for any serious work. In exchange, I am having a problem opening a newly built pdf, I get an error, "this doc is damaged but is being repaired", I can see the see the bookmarks, but the main page is not visable is unprintible and unsavable. Any help is appreciated. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 2:06:27-GMT,2161;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09344 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:06:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03334; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:52:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:50:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03257; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:50:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:51:57 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ester Crisanti Subject: [PDF] Interleaf WordlView to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I'm trying to convert some Interleaf documents to PDF format, using WordView. My documents contain A3 landscape and A4 portrait formats. Using 1. PDFWriter 3.02 on Windows NT I get problems with the page size. 2. pl2ps (versione 6.2 and 6.3) utility on Windows NT I get problems with the page size. 3. WorldViewPress I get several files in different directories BUT the page size is correct! I don't want to use the third solution because I can't get control over the generation of PDF files (too many in too many directories). I need to use the second one but I'm not able to get the right PDF file. Thanks Ester Crisanti ================================================== Ester Crisanti ecrisa@iol.it portatile: 0348-2259628 fax: 02-8051237 tel: 02-8690143 ================================================== _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 2:14:51-GMT,2562;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09498 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:14:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03834; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 21:05:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Jul 1998 21:04:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03763; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 21:04:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199807120204.WAA15407@dax.cc.uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 22:01:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Simple Question In-reply-to: <199807120142.UAA02977@everglades.binc.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On 10 Jul 98, at 17:31, flex@interport.net wrote: From: flex@interport.net Date sent: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:31:12 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Simple Question Send reply to: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > I am very new to pdfs and using them for any serious work. In exchange, I > am having a problem opening a newly built pdf, I get an error, "this doc > is damaged but is being repaired", I can see the see the bookmarks, but > the main page is not visable is unprintible and unsavable. > > Any help is appreciated. > > More details needed. What application are you using to create the document? Are you using PdfWriter or Distiller. Are you using a lot of graphics? dps Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 e-Calculus: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html Algebra Review:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html Pdfmarks:Links & Forms:http://www.math.uakroh.edu/~dpstory/lnk_forms.html _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 14:40:40-GMT,1562;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22341 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 08:40:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24191; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:15:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:08:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23932; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:07:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199807121407.JAA23932@everglades.binc.net> From: "Aandi Inston" Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:02:52 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Document is being repaired (was: Simple question) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > "this doc > is damaged but is being repaired", I can see the see the > bookmarks, but > the main page is not visable is unprintible and unsavable. How are you making the PDF? If, after making the PDF, you are transferring it between computers, how are you doing that? Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 15:41:40-GMT,3097;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23410 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:41:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26253; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:23:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:18:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26099; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:18:57 -0500 From: flex@interport.net X-Sender: flex@pop.interport.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 11:17:48 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Simple Question/Details Cc: dpstory@uakron.edu Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I posted the following yesterday. Here is a little more info and some results of me experimenting. Again, thanks in advance for any insight into this problem. ------- > I am very new to pdfs and using them for any serious work. In exchange, I > am having a problem opening a newly built pdf, I get an error, "this doc > is damaged but is being repaired", I can see the see the bookmarks, but > the main page is not visable is unprintible and unsavable. > > Any help is appreciated. > ----- Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu writes: > More details needed. What application are you using to create the document? Are you using PdfWriter or Distiller. Are you using a lot of graphics? dps ----------------- more info: It is now obviously not just the piece that we put together. With Acrobat Exchange and Distiller on a Mac BTW. I have tried several of the manuals and tutorials that come with software and I have found that I have the same problem with one of them. I first use Tool, Search, Indexes, and add the index. Then Query for Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, etc. So I can cycle through the entire Manual. Chapters 2 4 5 6 and 16 are unreadable. I get an error message "expected El while parsing the image" and "unexpected token, W1+ encountered" Am I using Acrobat Reader improperly? I tried opening the chapter itself and I get the same errors. I can see the thumbnails but the pages are not visible. I sent one of the bad chapters to a friend and she could not open it either. Since this problem is happening to two of us with a commercial produced manual, I am assuming we are doing something wrong. Any ideas? william myers wmyers@carsongroup.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 18:54:58-GMT,2551;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26889 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:54:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32064; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:40:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:32:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31801; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:32:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Simple Question/Details Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:40:27 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bdadc3$58fc4e40$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I can only think of a few causes of this: 1. You are using Acrobat 2.1 and the file needs 3.0. 2. You are transferring the files to the Mac and in the process damaging them. 3. The files really are damaged. I don't know of any problems with indexes, but does it happen if you use File > Open directly on the files? PS. Please don't post HTML format messages to the list if you can switch that off. Aandi -----Original Message----- It is now obviously not just the piece that we put together. With Acrobat Exchange and Distiller on a Mac BTW. I have tried several of the manuals and tutorials that come with software and I have found that I have the same problem with one of them. I first use Tool, Search, Indexes, and add the index. Then Query for Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, etc. So I can cycle through the entire Manual. Chapters 2 4 5 6 and 16 are unreadable. I get an error message "expected El while parsing the image" and "unexpected token, W1+ encountered" _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 18:55:19-GMT,2108;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26895 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:55:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32311; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:47:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:43:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA32147; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:43:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: [PDF] dpi Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:43:38 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bdadc4$ff368400$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Three questions: 1. What replaces dpi in a metric country? (The UK is clearly not metric, since dpi is what we use). Does Distiller offer different measures in non-English language versions, or does it use DPI in all countries? If it uses DPI does that string translate to anything? 2. Has anyone experimented with subsampling images down below 72 dpi, e.g. to 40 dpi, for very rough but very small proofs of PDF files? 3. Does anyone make use of Distiller's fancy features (or other tricks) to set different subsampling and compression options for different pages in a document? Aandi http://www.quite.com/ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 22:01:18-GMT,2648;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29953 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:01:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05333; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:50:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:47:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05151; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:47:10 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000401bdadc4$ff368400$0101c6c0@gateway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 23:42:39 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] dpi Cc: "Aandi Inston" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Aandi, In most cases, dpi is used. If not, it would be "dots per cm" or "dots per mm" (even rarer). For printing screens, of course "lines per cm" are used. Sorry, no experience for a qualified answer to the other questions. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Three questions: > >1. What replaces dpi in a metric >country? (The UK is clearly not metric, since dpi is what >we use). Does Distiller offer different measures in non-English >language versions, or does it use DPI in all countries? >If it uses DPI does that string translate to anything? > >2. Has anyone experimented with subsampling images down below >72 dpi, e.g. to 40 dpi, for very rough but very small proofs >of PDF files? > >3. Does anyone make use of Distiller's fancy features (or other >tricks) to set different subsampling and compression options for >different pages in a document? > >Aandi >http://www.quite.com/ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 22:03:43-GMT,3003;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00028 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:03:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05040; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:44:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:36:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04782; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:36:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199807122130.WAA08264@jupiter.nildram.co.uk> Subject: [PDF] (TAN) American/English Dictionary Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:32:02 +0000 x-sender: keith@mail.jireh.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Keith Jones To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Some of you seasoned cybernauts have been translating "English" English to "American" English (and vice-versa) for several years now, so this rather TAN request should be a piece of cake for you: My company is set to publish a American/English - English/American dictionary in .pdf format. We have over 300 entries already but, just in case we've missed any, I would like folks to email us with a list of their favourite - sorry, favorite ;-) differences. We will include words that sound the same but are spelt differently - such as: Theater/Theatre, programme/program Words that are different but have the same meaning - such as: Pavement/Sidewalk, boot/trunk, courgettes/zucchini, paraffin/kerosene etc. Multiple words such as sweet shop/candy store. Words that are spelt the same but have different meanings or definitions - such as: billion (a million million in the UK) and billion (one thousand million in the US). We would also love to hear any amusing stories about misunderstandings these differences have caused. INCENTIVE: Anyone who contributes will receive a free copy of the dictionary upon publication DEADLINE: Entries must be submitted by September 30th 1998. Oh, and please don't post your entries to the list - email me privately at the address in my sig. TIA Keith Keith Jones ______________________________________ King-Fisher Digital Publishing Charis House, Hardwick Square East, Buxton, Derbyshire SK17 6PT, UK email: kj@king-fisher.co.uk Telephone: 01298 25849 Facsimile: 01298 27027 ______________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 12-Jul-1998 22:04:35-GMT,2497;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00060 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:04:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05351; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:51:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:48:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05240; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:48:52 -0500 Message-ID: <35A93D14.C770D649@empa.ch> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 23:47:49 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] dpi References: <000401bdadc4$ff368400$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Aandi, In Continental Europe we use dpi as well. Rarly someone refers to dpcm. DPI is what everybody is using. Erwin Aandi Inston wrote: > Three questions: > > 1. What replaces dpi in a metric > country? (The UK is clearly not metric, since dpi is what > we use). Does Distiller offer different measures in non-English > language versions, or does it use DPI in all countries? > If it uses DPI does that string translate to anything? > > 2. Has anyone experimented with subsampling images down below > 72 dpi, e.g. to 40 dpi, for very rough but very small proofs > of PDF files? > > 3. Does anyone make use of Distiller's fancy features (or other > tricks) to set different subsampling and compression options for > different pages in a document? > > Aandi > http://www.quite.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 1:25:36-GMT,1912;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03817 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:25:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10931; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:03:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:55:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10639; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:55:02 -0500 From: flex@interport.net X-Sender: flex@pop.interport.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000301bdadc3$58fc4e40$0101c6c0@gateway> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:54:17 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Simple Question/Details Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com To all who tryed to help. thanks all I found out the problem. if one just installs acrobat with the search feature on a mac, dkhome should be installed in the extensions folder, but it conflicts with so many other extensions many times it does not install. I appreciate your expert advice, As to Aandi's suggestion about mime replies. I am not using a browser as a mail client. Sorry if the bold and so forth get translated across platforms. It happens all the time. Bill _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 13:30:32-GMT,3028;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17783 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32574; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:05:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:00:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA32109; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:00:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:01:32 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] 7.10.98 PDFzone *EXTRA* TOC Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ____________________________________________________________ V.03, N.018 ***PDFzone EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra71098.html ____________________________________________________________ The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + Hasbro Announces Historic Vote for New Monopoly Token * Rules for numerous spinoff games also available in PDF + PDFzone Launches New Acrobat PDF WebRing as Online Oasis * Linked sites make searching for Acrobat/pdf info easier + Hewlett-Packard Site Puts Uses PDF to Showcase Products * Free, pre-fab project designs ideal for HP color printers + Acrobat & PDF Play Vital Role in Missing Children Searches * Posters, flyers & guidebooks among useful tools + One Mac Magazine Goes Web Only, New Pub Debuts * No more printed MacWEEK, but the Mac Report comes in PDF + 'Cheat Sheets' in PDF Help Catholics Defend Faith * Crib notes offer shorthand on key scriptural passages + From the Editor * Visit to The PDFzone turns up useful Capture information ... and more. Previous month's issues are available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ 1998 Archives are available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extraarchive98.html 1997 Archives are available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extraarchive97.html Subscribe to the email version, or PDF discussion lists at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html RGDS~Kurt ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 100 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 15:12:52-GMT,2354;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20094 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:12:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02159; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:45:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:44:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02039; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:44:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980713084939.007c37b0@mail.tim.se> X-Sender: tim-jl@mail.tim.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:49:39 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "johan.leide" Subject: Re: [PDF] dpi In-Reply-To: <000401bdadc4$ff368400$0101c6c0@gateway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com In package printing industry where Barco (gemany) dominates they still use LPC (Lines per cenitimeter) so did most of the older non Postscript systems. But as the imperlistic PostScript has conqured the world DPI is what is used! BR Johan Leide >1. What replaces dpi in a metric >country? (The UK is clearly not metric, since dpi is what >we use). Does Distiller offer different measures in non-English >language versions, or does it use DPI in all countries? >If it uses DPI does that string translate to anything? > >2. Has anyone experimented with subsampling images down below >72 dpi, e.g. to 40 dpi, for very rough but very small proofs >of PDF files? > >3. Does anyone make use of Distiller's fancy features (or other >tricks) to set different subsampling and compression options for >different pages in a document? > >Aandi Johan Leide Teknik i Media 040-97 33 10 0706-72 00 35 Http://www.tim.se johan.leide@tim.se _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 16:18:43-GMT,1523;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21744 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:18:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09251; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:02:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:00:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09055; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:00:13 -0500 From: april.price@srs.gov Message-Id: <199807131557.AA13704@gateway1.srs.gov> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PDF] Search/Indexes To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I am looking for a Search Engine or Indexer that will search/index encripted PDF's and html's. I am using the plug-in indexer from WebStar, which locks up on encripted files. Cost is a factor. Thanks, avp _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 16:18:44-GMT,2944;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21748 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:18:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08731; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:55:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:46:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08105; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:46:21 -0500 Message-ID: <35AA2CEE.407E008A@aegisgroup.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:56:02 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity & WINDOZE N(o)T References: <8825663D.0058F529.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Welllll.... Windows NT 3.51 has been out of the picture for quite a while. I didn't use it myself, but the PC heads I work with all hated it. NT 4.0 is a tool that I use daily, but only for programming and web serving, and I find it to be fairly stable. I use a Macintosh for all graphics applications, including PDF devolpment. I try to use the best tool for a given job. I know people who own both a pick-up truck and a sports car. Both are vehicles-each has its purpose. That's why I own two types of computers. The point may be made that if the industry could get it right, both sorts of tasks could be done equally well on one machine, but thats not the way things are. Dan Dilamarter > > > Out of curiousity, why does Windoze N(o)T not have more > "desktop" use? You would think that a "powerful" OS would > just phase out Win95. > > BTW, I used Windoze N(o)T 3.51 and now 95. 95 is much > more stable than the so called "multi-threading" of Windoze N(o)T. > > My horrible experience of the computer crashing 5 times a day > in Windoze N(o)T has cause me to say "dont believe the hype" > about NT. 95 runs all the apps. NT doesn't. > > -rob > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 16:30:16-GMT,3721;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22016 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:30:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10332; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:20:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:18:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10197; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:18:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199807131613.JAA11754@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:13:32 -0700 Old-To: Benzi Schreiber From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] Re: Frame->PDF: Thanks! Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <01BDAD90.96F6E260.bschreiber@olivr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 7/12/98 02:28 AM , Benzi Schreiber wrote: >Thank you, thank you, and thank you again, Dov, for your pearls of wisdom. > >I downloaded the Adobe PS 4.2.3 printer driver, installed it with the >Distiller PPD which I found in the \Acrobat3\Distillr\XTRAS directory, and >am now a happy camper. The screen captures are in beautiful color. > >(BTW, any ideas on how to make the text a bit crisper? I tried playing >around with the "compress line & art" setting, but that didn't seem to have >any effect.) > >Benzi Benzi, Which text are you referring to? Text in the screen captures or actual document text? In the case of document text, depending upon the screen size, text size, video drivers, etc. that you have, you may wish to turn off the "smooth text and monochrome images" option in the "preferences" for either Exchange or Reader. This turns off the "anti-aliasing" feature for text which some people love and probably as many hate. In terms of text inside screen captures, i.e. images, this is a much more complex matter. It may be that your original screen text is being displayed with anti-aliasing on via either ATM, Windows'9X's built-in TrueType rasterizer or both. Turning those off may "crispen" the text a bit, especially in screen captures. The compression setting you mention should not effect anything with regards to content quality. You could also be losing detail if your Distiller compression settings are "wrong" or if the screen capture images are inappropriately downsampled in whatever image edit program you are using. - Dov _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 16:31:14-GMT,3213;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22051 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:31:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10110; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:16:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:14:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09905; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:14:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199807131613.JAA11754@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:13:32 -0700 To: Benzi Schreiber From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] Re: Frame->PDF: Thanks! Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <01BDAD90.96F6E260.bschreiber@olivr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 7/12/98 02:28 AM , Benzi Schreiber wrote: >Thank you, thank you, and thank you again, Dov, for your pearls of wisdom. > >I downloaded the Adobe PS 4.2.3 printer driver, installed it with the >Distiller PPD which I found in the \Acrobat3\Distillr\XTRAS directory, and >am now a happy camper. The screen captures are in beautiful color. > >(BTW, any ideas on how to make the text a bit crisper? I tried playing >around with the "compress line & art" setting, but that didn't seem to have >any effect.) > >Benzi Benzi, Which text are you referring to? Text in the screen captures or actual document text? In the case of document text, depending upon the screen size, text size, video drivers, etc. that you have, you may wish to turn off the "smooth text and monochrome images" option in the "preferences" for either Exchange or Reader. This turns off the "anti-aliasing" feature for text which some people love and probably as many hate. In terms of text inside screen captures, i.e. images, this is a much more complex matter. It may be that your original screen text is being displayed with anti-aliasing on via either ATM, Windows'9X's built-in TrueType rasterizer or both. Turning those off may "crispen" the text a bit, especially in screen captures. The compression setting you mention should not effect anything with regards to content quality. You could also be losing detail if your Distiller compression settings are "wrong" or if the screen capture images are inappropriately downsampled in whatever image edit program you are using. - Dov _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 17:22:51-GMT,4422;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23422 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:22:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12534; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:57:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:52:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12229; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:52:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199807131652.JAA15308@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:52:26 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity & WINDOZE N(o)T Cc: "Robert Lira" In-Reply-To: <8825663D.0058F529.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 7/10/98 09:16 AM , Robert Lira wrote: > >-DOVE ISAACS WROTE: I really cannot "bear" it when someone refers to me as a bird. My name is Dov, not Dove! This is one of the few topics over which I will really flame! >> For better or worse, at this point, I personally >> believe that NT is not yet ready for prime time in terms of >> desktop use. > >-- > >Out of curiousity, why does Windoze N(o)T not have more >"desktop" use? You would think that a "powerful" OS would >just phase out Win95. > >BTW, I used Windoze N(o)T 3.51 and now 95. 95 is much >more stable than the so called "multi-threading" of Windoze N(o)T. > >My horrible experience of the computer crashing 5 times a day >in Windoze N(o)T has cause me to say "dont believe the hype" >about NT. 95 runs all the apps. NT doesn't. > >-rob The reason why NT does not have more desktop use is very simple. It doesn't have the same level of "legacy" PC compatibility that the earlier Windows versions have. Nor does it have as many and/or mature device drivers as do those earlier Windows versions. Windows'9X was designed to run on all the PCs that Windows 3.1X ran on starting with 386-based PCs (I wouldn't do it, but it allegedly works) with all sorts of oddball peripheral cards from before the time when Intel and Microsoft really starting forcing some degree of real standardization with regards to what devices would really be supported in the future in terms of OS. Windows'9X was also committed to support for legacy MS/DOS applications by providing an "MS/DOS box" that allowed applications to pretty much muck directly with hardware. MS/DOS games had to continue running. Windows NT was a new OS from ground up. Although it has an "MS/DOS box" that looks like an advanced version of the Windows'9X one, it is a protected emulation of MS/DOS with minimal support for direct hardware access. It doesn't pretend to support every peripheral from the year gimmel. Support is provided primarily for mainstream systems, options, and peripherals that would be found in typical fortune 1000 desktop systems and servers. Notebook support (advanced power management) is not yet readily available (where it does exist, it was added on by the notebook system reseller, not "native" OS support). Device drivers are very different from those of Windows 3.1x and/or Windows'9X. They effectively needed to have been rewritten from scratch with many more restrictions and gotcha's. Microsoft is betting the farm on desktop usage for Windows NT 5. That means that NT must be retrofitted for some of the compatibility, notebook system power management, and driver support that users have under Windows'9X. And it must be rock solid. That is why NT 5 is so slow in getting out. - Dov _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 18:15:52-GMT,2176;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24834 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:15:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14975; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:50:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:47:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14792; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:47:19 -0500 From: duffj@document-solutions.com To: Subject: [PDF] Reader Download Count Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:51:03 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199807131613.JAA11754@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Folks: Several months ago, some "long-timers" (yours truly included) kvetched on this list about the need for updated Reader download figures from Adobe. As I recall, the last Adobe update stated "20,000,000 downloads" - but that was a LONG time ago. As I stated on this list, this number would be of substantial benefit to those who toil daily to convince the under-informed masses of the (a) value, (b) market share, and (c) ubiquitiy of PDF. There were some Adobe-esque rumblings (Gary) on this point, but never a clear answer (I checked). So... Adobe? Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 21:12:52-GMT,1791;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29262 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:12:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24016; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:51:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:48:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23897; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:48:42 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: GWI From: "Vanessa McNeill" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256640.007152F0.00@gwi_appserver1.gwi.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:39:14 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I am trying to convert a book created in Microsoft word 97 to PDF. The book has multiple files. I tried to create a master document in Word, but after struggling with corrupt files and time on the phone to Microsoft support, I gave up on master documents (per MS support, master documents are "trash and it is not recommended to use them"). I have created the book by using RD field codes to create an Index and a TOC. Is there any way to create one PDF file containing the entire book? _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 19:01:03-GMT,2478;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25948 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:01:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17734; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:40:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:37:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17514; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:36:58 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256640.0064CA95.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:33:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, Dov Isaacs Director of Technology Analysis Printing & Systems Division Adobe Systems Incorporated You wrote: >To reiterate THE official Adobe advice previously given on both the >PDF and the Framer's lists, for Windows'9X, use the AdobePS 4.2.3 >(or 4.2.2) driver (available for download from Adobe's web site) with >the Distiller PPD found in the \Acrobat3\Distillr\XTRAS subdirectory. >Any other combination is likely to cause significant problems in terms >of proper rendering of graphics and/or text objects as well as color. You are absolutely right! I did exactly what you said and received excellent results! My boss is very, very pleased. I used a Tektronix 550J .ppd file and reinstalled the Adobe PS 4.2.3. Then I also used Agfa's Quark XPress & Distiller set-up directions for Reliable PDF file creation in a high end prepress production environment (DistillerSetup.pdf). My CorelDraw 8 four color separation graphic with several layers became the clearest, most impressively rendered PDF file I've seen. I'm so glad that you participate in the PDF@Lists. Thanks again for your help! --Karen _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 19:35:06-GMT,3249;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26883 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:35:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19038; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:05:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:03:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18859; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:03:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980713210249.0099e650@193.174.4.1> X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 21:02:49 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Thomas Merz Subject: [PDF] Re: dpi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >From: "Aandi Inston" >1. What replaces dpi in a metric >country? (The UK is clearly not metric, since dpi is what >we use). Does Distiller offer different measures in non-English >language versions, or does it use DPI in all countries? Germany cleary doesn't seem to be metric, since we use dpi too :-) (at least in DTP context). Lines/dots per cm is only used when talking to a printer (the person, not the device). Distiller only offers dpi in the German version. >If it uses DPI does that string translate to anything? dpi is dpi is dpi, regardless of the language. At least in Germany people are using as if it were a native abbreviation. > >2. Has anyone experimented with subsampling images down below >72 dpi, e.g. to 40 dpi, for very rough but very small proofs >of PDF files? As far as I recall the lower limit for downsampling is 9 dpi (!). Using even smaller values results in 9 dpi. Needless to say, the resulting images are somehow "jaggy"... > >3. Does anyone make use of Distiller's fancy features (or other >tricks) to set different subsampling and compression options for >different pages in a document? Although I teach the trick in my Acrobat classes, I'm not aware of anybody using it. The real use, in my opinion, is different compression or downsampling options for different images. I once thought about a convenient way for the user to incorporate the appropriate settings within her EPS images, but couldn't come up with a decent user-friendly solution (short of inserting PS code in EPS files). Inserting special dummy EPS files relies on the app printing the page contents in a specific order, which may not be guaranteed. Thomas _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 19:55:16-GMT,3008;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27352 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:55:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20383; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:34:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:31:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20211; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:31:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199807131931.MAA03539@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:31:28 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame->PDF: colors & clarity Cc: "Karen L Mibus" In-Reply-To: <85256640.0064CA95.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 7/13/98 11:33 AM , Karen L Mibus wrote: > >Hi, Dov Isaacs > Director of Technology Analysis > Printing & Systems Division > Adobe Systems Incorporated > >You wrote: >>To reiterate THE official Adobe advice previously given on both the >>PDF and the Framer's lists, for Windows'9X, use the AdobePS 4.2.3 >>(or 4.2.2) driver (available for download from Adobe's web site) with >>the Distiller PPD found in the \Acrobat3\Distillr\XTRAS subdirectory. >>Any other combination is likely to cause significant problems in terms >>of proper rendering of graphics and/or text objects as well as color. > >You are absolutely right! I did exactly what you said and received >excellent results! My boss is very, very pleased. I used a Tektronix 550J >.ppd file and reinstalled the Adobe PS 4.2.3. Then I also used Agfa's >Quark XPress & Distiller set-up directions for Reliable PDF file creation >in a high end prepress production environment (DistillerSetup.pdf). My >CorelDraw 8 four color separation graphic with several layers became the >clearest, most impressively rendered PDF file I've seen. > >I'm so glad that you participate in the PDF@Lists. Thanks again for your >help! >--Karen Glad to know that our instructions help. And if it works well with output from CorelDRAW, it will obviously work well with anything! - Dov _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 21:06:25-GMT,2156;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29140 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:06:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23661; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:43:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:39:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23459; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:39:49 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Hilton Holder" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Search/Indexes Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:34:17 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com try www.isysdev.com Isys5. It will index Zipped files.\ Regards Hilton Holder Scanlab ---------- > From: april.price@srs.gov > To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Search/Indexes > Date: Monday, July 13, 1998 5:00 PM > > > I am looking for a Search Engine or Indexer that will search/index > encripted PDF's and html's. I am using the plug-in indexer from > WebStar, which locks up on encripted files. Cost is a factor. > Thanks, avp > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 21:18:08-GMT,3203;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29409 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:18:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24764; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:03:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:01:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24647; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:01:18 -0500 Comments: ( Received on motgate.mot.com from client pobox.mot.com, sender Curt_Belshe-FCB010C@email.mot.com ) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:00:00 -0500 From: Curt Belshe-FCB010C Subject: [PDF] HTML x-ref to FrameMaker Markers in PDF To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p1)/STREAM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Greetings Gentlefolk, It seems to me that I should be able to create a cross reference in an HTML document that opens a PDF file to specific a marker location that was defined in the original FrameMaker file. I have goofed around with this for a couple of hours and can't seem to accomplish the task. This is what I have tried: 1. I created a small document using the PC version of FrameMaker 5.5. 2. Inside the document (not on the first page), I inserted two test markers of types: Hypertext (Special>>Marker...>>Marker Type=Hypertext>> MarkerText=Time>>New Marker) Cross-Ref (Special>>Marker...>>Marker Type=Hypertext>> MarkerText=Schedule>>New Marker) 3. I saved the FrameMaker document as test.pdf (using the ASCII format option on the Distiller conversion) 4. Then I created a little HTML document to see if I could launch an Acrobat Reader and open a the pdf file at a specified marker location. I could open the pdf document in a new browser window that used the Netscape browser plugin but I couldn't figure out how to pass marker information so the document would open the file to a location specified using some defined marker. It would seem that this should be drop dead easy but I'm ignorant of some type of parsing nomenclature that would make this work. I would think that it would take a form like: How far away am I? Can this be done? Thanks in advance Curt _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 22:14:55-GMT,1461;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00775 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:14:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27195; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:50:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:45:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26807; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:45:00 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256640.00775BB1.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:44:17 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Question: off topic though Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com If anyone has experience/expertise in using Lotus Notes, please email me privately. Thanks, rob _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 22:18:59-GMT,1988;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00868 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:18:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28223; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:03:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27996; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:03:29 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256640.0079D830.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:11:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Question: off topic though Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com List members: My apologies! I hit the reply button too fast and you all got my reply. "Robert Lira" on 07/13/98 02:44:17 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Question: off topic though If anyone has experience/expertise in using Lotus Notes, please email me privately. Thanks, rob _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 22:20:30-GMT,2067;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00888 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:20:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28214; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:06:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:02:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27906; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:02:39 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256640.0079BEB6.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:10:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Question: off topic though Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com only as a user - not an administrator. In fact, I just got my "hands slapped" for creating a group! If I can give you some user info feel free to let me know. SueG "Robert Lira" on 07/13/98 02:44:17 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Question: off topic though If anyone has experience/expertise in using Lotus Notes, please email me privately. Thanks, rob _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 13-Jul-1998 22:47:35-GMT,1663;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01581 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:47:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29371; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:27:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:23:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29142; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:23:19 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256640.007AC341.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:22:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Question: off topic though Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com thanks sue. i hate this program, very unintuitive, but its good to know someone knowledgeable out there who could help! Do you know if I am able to place my own designed letterhead. The company only gives you a few choices, and they aren't very attractive. Let me know if you know. 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Version 1.1 is now available for download from CDC's web site: www.docctrl.com Local Render is a tool for automatically converting MS Word (Office '97 & Office '95) documents into "intelligent" PDF files. The Word Headings Levels are converted into Acrobat Bookmarks. The Word Cross References, Links & Web Links, etc are converted into Acrobat links and Web links. The Acrobat "Document Information" fields are automatically populated from the equivalent MS Word fields. Users may set security and passwords in the PDF file, automatically set the options to create thumbnails and optimise the file. It is possible to use either PDFwriter _or_ Distiller to create intelligent PDF. Multiple files may be processed in batch mode. Version 1.1 now supports: Word '95; Word Document Info fields can be extracted and applied to output PDF (Word '97 Only) Arbitrary Document Info fields can be applied to output PDF (CLI option) PDF security/passwords can be set on output PDF Option to: generate thumbnails, to optimise & to copy base URL PDF files accepted as input file (update Doc Info &/or Insert Doc Info fields, specify Security, etc) (CLI option) When using Distiller & default printer not Postscript, a printer select dialog is provided Proces batch files (CLI option) TOC hyperlinks now extend across the entire TOC entry --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 7:49:20-GMT,3157;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12663 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 01:49:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14730; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:28:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:26:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA14659; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:26:23 -0500 Message-ID: <35AB0699.96218791@panix.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 03:19:53 -0400 From: Lloyd Nesfield X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: References: <88256640.007152F0.00@gwi_appserver1.gwi.com> <35AA944D.26825B2C@atkins.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Please provide more info on the location of "rundir.exe". I have unable to locate that file on the Acrobat CD. Thanks in advance. Maribel Q. Swanson wrote: > Create separate print files and use the Rundir.exe supplied by Adobe Acrobat. > You can create one PDF from a folder of various print files. > > MS > > Vanessa McNeill wrote: > > > I am trying to convert a book created in Microsoft word 97 to PDF. The > > book has multiple files. I tried to create a master document in Word, but > > after struggling with corrupt files and time on the phone to Microsoft > > support, I gave up on master documents (per MS support, master documents > > are "trash and it is not recommended to use them"). I have created the > > book by using RD field codes to create an Index and a TOC. > > > > Is there any way to create one PDF file containing the entire book? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Maribel Q. Swanson > Manager, Media Creation > Atkins Duane International, Inc. > > Maribel Q. Swanson > Manager, Media Creation > Atkins Duane International, Inc. HTML Mail > Netscape Conference Address > Netscape Conference DLS Server > Tel: (714) 650-3697 Ext. 13 > Additional Information: > Last Name Swanson > First Name Maribel Q. > Version 2.1 _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 8:31:55-GMT,2580;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13525 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:31:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA15489; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:57:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:56:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA15433; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:56:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980714095858.007e0710@re.nettuno.it> X-Sender: reg001d1@re.nettuno.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:58:58 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: LinkService Subject: [PDF] Re: In-Reply-To: <88256640.007152F0.00@gwi_appserver1.gwi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com yes, you can create 1 ps file for any Word file, and configure distiller to read some PostScript Files and create 1 PDF file. To do this you must use the RUNFILE procedure. Pleas erefer on Distiller help for more information. I hope this can help you. Regards, Vainer Gilioli LinkService Srl Italy At 13.39 13/07/98 -0700, you wrote: >I am trying to convert a book created in Microsoft word 97 to PDF. The >book has multiple files. I tried to create a master document in Word, but >after struggling with corrupt files and time on the phone to Microsoft >support, I gave up on master documents (per MS support, master documents >are "trash and it is not recommended to use them"). I have created the >book by using RD field codes to create an Index and a TOC. > >Is there any way to create one PDF file containing the entire book? > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 11:12:47-GMT,2931;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16169 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 05:12:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19983; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 05:47:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 05:46:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19929; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 05:46:16 -0500 Message-ID: <35AB36E7.C643D5B3@rugged.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:45:59 +0300 From: Yossi David Organization: Aitech Systems Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: References: <88256640.007152F0.00@gwi_appserver1.gwi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Vanessa, I am replying off list so I won't sound like an idiot if I didn't understand your situation! If you have a bunch of PDF files and want to turn them into a single one, this can easily be done using the "Document|Insert pages" command. First open the PDF file which will be the beginning of the book. Then select "Insert pages" from the "Document" menu (I think this is only available in Acrobat Exchange, i.e. not Reader) and select the PDF file for that comes next. Make sure that you select "After" and "Last" so that the selected file is added to the end. I'm afraid I have no idea what the implications are regarding your Index and ToC. Please let me know if this helps. Good luck, Yossi Vanessa McNeill wrote: > I am trying to convert a book created in Microsoft word 97 to PDF. The > book has multiple files. I tried to create a master document in Word, but > after struggling with corrupt files and time on the phone to Microsoft > support, I gave up on master documents (per MS support, master documents > are "trash and it is not recommended to use them"). I have created the > book by using RD field codes to create an Index and a TOC. > > Is there any way to create one PDF file containing the entire book? > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 13:16:19-GMT,3206;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18225 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:16:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23158; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:23:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:20:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23022; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:20:40 -0500 Message-ID: <35AB5B30.9A0B57D6@empa.ch> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:20:52 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] dpi References: <3.0.5.32.19980713084939.007c37b0@mail.tim.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Johan, Sorry for being instructive. 1. Barco is a system from Belgium. 2. It may be that this system uses Lpi as a decription of their systems resolution. But normally Lpi is a description for the screen ruling. For example a screen of 150 Lpi is imaged on a system with a resolution of 2400 dpi because it needs 16 x 16 image elements to create one screen dot. I think you know that Johan. But maybe the readers without printing backgroud like this additional information. Erwin johan.leide wrote: > In package printing industry where Barco (gemany) dominates they still use > LPC (Lines per cenitimeter) so did most of the older non Postscript > systems. But as the imperlistic PostScript has conqured the world DPI is > what is used! > > BR > > Johan Leide > > >1. What replaces dpi in a metric > >country? (The UK is clearly not metric, since dpi is what > >we use). Does Distiller offer different measures in non-English > >language versions, or does it use DPI in all countries? > >If it uses DPI does that string translate to anything? > > > >2. Has anyone experimented with subsampling images down below > >72 dpi, e.g. to 40 dpi, for very rough but very small proofs > >of PDF files? > > > >3. Does anyone make use of Distiller's fancy features (or other > >tricks) to set different subsampling and compression options for > >different pages in a document? > > > >Aandi > > Johan Leide > Teknik i Media > 040-97 33 10 > 0706-72 00 35 > Http://www.tim.se > johan.leide@tim.se > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 13:46:38-GMT,2119;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18820 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:46:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24280; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:48:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:47:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24229; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:47:45 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:45:45 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel Mason Subject: [PDF] pdf links?? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Heres a vague, (detail-lacking) question for you guys!! My boss has asked me to research the possibility of creating a on-line, brochure-creating, pdf type effort. (?????) We are looking at ways for our clients to log on and be asked standard questions like name, address etc and also what they are interested in (pop down type, say 10 options). The system would then automatically create a pdf brochure based on an existing master document and the specified fields, using a database of pictures and text inserted or switched. Instantly viewable by client. They could then order it from us and we would print it?? Great eh? So how can we do it? ..and are picture within pdfs 'exchangeable' like in Quark? Thanks for any ideas or just reminding me that I'm just a bit too optimistic!! -- Daniel Mason _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 13:46:53-GMT,2267;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18827 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:46:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24916; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:02:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:00:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24778; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:00:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:58:54 +0100 Message-ID: <211-Tue14Jul1998135854+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 I); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf links?? In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Daniel Mason writes: > We are looking at ways for our clients to log on and be asked standard > questions like name, address etc and also what they are interested in > (pop down type, say 10 options). The system would then automatically > create a pdf brochure based on an existing master document and the > specified fields, using a database of pictures and text inserted or > switched. Instantly viewable by client. They could then order it from us > and we would print it?? Great eh? > > So how can we do it? Base it all on SGML (or better, XML). PDF delivery is merely a last minute rendition. Naturally, TeX is an excellent batch formatter you can use to render the output from the query of your XML database..... Sebastian _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 13:47:26-GMT,2300;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18847 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:47:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25069; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:05:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:03:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24959; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:03:57 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F641A0E01@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf links?? Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:02:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Using The Acrobat Forms Author tool, you can modify PDFs to become interactive forms. >From this, you can gather the info from customers, and they can print it out and fax it directly to you. But, to get more tricky, you can also create a Submit process, that sends the info gathered directly back to your server, where the info is verified/processed and the results are then sent back to your clients. (Like I said, thats the tricky part - but it is definitely possible!) Now that said, its required that your clients have the Acrobat Forms Fill-In tool (plug-in) to even get the chance to fill in the form. Hope this info helps. Look at Adobe's site under Forms Author and Forms Fill-In plug-ins (free!) I've developed online interactive time sheets and purchase order forms for our staff here at Lucent. Works well and is easily executed. Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 14:08:09-GMT,3391;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19284 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:08:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26619; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:41:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:39:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26495; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:39:38 -0500 Message-ID: <35AB5FBF.7528A06F@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:40:16 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf links?? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Daniel Mason wrote: > > Heres a vague, (detail-lacking) question for you guys!! > > My boss has asked me to research the possibility of creating a on-line, > brochure-creating, pdf type effort. (?????) > > We are looking at ways for our clients to log on and be asked standard > questions like name, address etc and also what they are interested in > (pop down type, say 10 options). The system would then automatically > create a pdf brochure based on an existing master document and the > specified fields, using a database of pictures and text inserted or > switched. Instantly viewable by client. They could then order it from us > and we would print it?? Great eh? We operate a similar custom publishing system whereby users create book orders by searching/browsing a repository of documents. The selected documents are paginated together (off-line) and delivered in print (so therefore not in real-time). I'd say if the brochures are simple and the users have a small range of things to change, then this would be very challenging but fun. If they are complex, and the users have virtually free reign over the graphic design, then it would be much more challenging, and probably fall somewhere between fun and a nightmare. In any case this seems like "very advanced use" of Acrobat; IOW, there's not one of these on every web site. I think the factors that will make or break the effort are 1) the range of control over the graphic design given to the user, and 2) the system used behind the scenes to compose the brochures. Think long and hard about both. For (2), you're going to need something that is either batch oriented or completely scriptable, and very reliable in pagination. Depending on your scope, you may consider using technologies as sophisticated as SGML/XML and a batch formatter that supports color such as Advent 3B2, or you could go completely homebrew with Perl and Quikscript. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 14:53:19-GMT,2788;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20381 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:53:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28485; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:17:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:14:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28180; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:14:00 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf links?? Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:14:19 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdaf31$b1653460$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Daniel Mason asked: > We are looking at ways for our clients to log on and be asked standard > questions like name, address etc and also what they are interested in > (pop down type, say 10 options). The system would then automatically > create a pdf brochure based on an existing master document and the > specified fields, using a database of pictures and text inserted or > switched. Instantly viewable by client. They could then order it from us > and we would print it?? Great eh? > > So how can we do it? Answer: With PDFfusion of course. PDFfusion will allow you to create "customised documents on demand" exactly as you describe and is being increasingly used for this purpose. It may interest you to learn that we recently conducted an experiment and we able to create a custom document which had over 15,000 data items in less than a minute on a Pentium II PC! Check out www.docctrl.com Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 19:10:07-GMT,2033;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27034 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:09:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08396; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:40:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:28:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07510; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:28:25 -0500 Message-ID: <001201bdaf55$5a338a10$030010ac@dell2ntsvr1.Office> From: "Greg Pauba" To: Subject: [PDF] Error when retrieving document from Searchable CD Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:29:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I've converted about 800 documents from tif to pdf using capture. Indexed them with Acrobat Catalog (Optimized for CD)and then maintained the same directory structure and wrote this information to a CD. When I search using the search function (Accrobat Exchange/Reader Win95 or NT) I get a 'hit' list but when I double click on the document I get the error "The document could not be found: it has either been moved, deleted, or you don't have permission to view it". Any ideas on what I can check? Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 20:17:26-GMT,5264;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28576 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:17:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10833; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:23:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:21:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10641; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:21:03 -0500 Message-ID: <35ABAFC9.E674A1F6@atkins.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:21:45 -0700 From: "Maribel Q. Swanson" Organization: ADI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: References: <88256640.007152F0.00@gwi_appserver1.gwi.com> <35AA944D.26825B2C@atkins.com> <35AB0699.96218791@panix.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------67B75C50B5F337C7340CBD0C" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------67B75C50B5F337C7340CBD0C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Lloyd, This file is probably on your hard drive. Look in your Acrobat 3 folder, Distillr, Xtras. It appears as a text document: Rundirex.txt. Open this file and rename it in your folder where you store your print files. Read through the instructions. You will insert the exact path for the folders where you stored your print files. After modifying the file, close it and run it through Distiller. This text file is coded to pull whichever print files you've instructed it to pull, and will create one PDF. That's it! NOTE: If you're on a network and the PDF puts the print files in the wrong order, copy each print file (one at a time, in the correct order) to a folder on your hard drive. Then, move the Rundirex.txt file (with your new name), modify the path, and run it through Distiller again. Hope this helps! I spent MANY hours making it work just right! M Swanson Lloyd Nesfield wrote: > Please provide more info on the location of "rundir.exe". I have unable to > locate that file on the Acrobat CD. > > Thanks in advance. > > Maribel Q. Swanson wrote: > > > Create separate print files and use the Rundir.exe supplied by Adobe Acrobat. > > You can create one PDF from a folder of various print files. > > > > MS > > > > Vanessa McNeill wrote: > > > > > I am trying to convert a book created in Microsoft word 97 to PDF. The > > > book has multiple files. I tried to create a master document in Word, but > > > after struggling with corrupt files and time on the phone to Microsoft > > > support, I gave up on master documents (per MS support, master documents > > > are "trash and it is not recommended to use them"). I have created the > > > book by using RD field codes to create an Index and a TOC. > > > > > > Is there any way to create one PDF file containing the entire book? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Maribel Q. Swanson > > Manager, Media Creation > > Atkins Duane International, Inc. > > > > Maribel Q. Swanson > > Manager, Media Creation > > Atkins Duane International, Inc. HTML Mail > > Netscape Conference Address > > Netscape Conference DLS Server > > Tel: (714) 650-3697 Ext. 13 > > Additional Information: > > Last Name Swanson > > First Name Maribel Q. > > Version 2.1 > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ --------------67B75C50B5F337C7340CBD0C Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Maribel Q. Swanson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Maribel Q. Swanson n: Swanson;Maribel Q. org: Atkins Duane International, Inc. email;internet: mswanson@atkins.com title: Manager, Media Creation note: Tel: (714) 650-3697 Ext. 13 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------67B75C50B5F337C7340CBD0C-- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 20:17:31-GMT,2694;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28579 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:17:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10489; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:18:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:14:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10264; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:14:11 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Error when retrieving document from Searchable CD Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:13:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdaf5b$8e8668e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001201bdaf55$5a338a10$030010ac@dell2ntsvr1.Office> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Single click on an entry in the hit list. Look at the status line below and write down the EXACT file name you see (keeping upper and lower case exactly as shown). Double click to be sure there is a problem. Now, select the file and Click Info. Check the file name is the same. Note down the modification date. Now, use Windows Explorer to determine whether the file name you saw actually does exist. If it does exist, check the modification date. Reply here with your findings, and the name you wrote down. Aandi > > > I've converted about 800 documents from tif to pdf using > capture. Indexed > them with Acrobat Catalog (Optimized for CD)and then > maintained the same > directory structure and wrote this information to a CD. When > I search using > the search function (Accrobat Exchange/Reader Win95 or NT) I > get a 'hit' > list but when I double click on the document I get the error > "The document > could not be found: it has either been moved, deleted, or you > don't have > permission to view it". Any ideas on what I can check? > > Thanks, > Greg _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 20:18:40-GMT,2142;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28604 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:18:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12170; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:48:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:43:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11904; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:43:30 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: PENTON CLEVELAND From: "John Hricko" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256641.006BCDF0.00@mail.penton.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:51:46 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Catalog/Mac -Indexing pdfs w/duplicated fields Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We need to index (using Catalog) lots of pdfs (years of monthly publication pages) on an ongoing basis. Lately, we decided to change our routine, and have added navigation "buttons" to the top of our pages, duplicating them to all pages. Nice touch, BUT.... According to Adobe's CustomerFirst Support http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/5812.htm we are unable to build indexes for them! (I see mention of "create form fields using PDFmark commands", but we've already done alot of processing to these pdfs already. Indexing is the last thing we usually do (I think we have to do it last). Has Adobe, or anyone else, found a fix or workaround for this? (the bug only occurs on the Mac -figures...) John Hricko Penton New Media _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 21:52:57-GMT,2187;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01033 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18148; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:34:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:32:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17951; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:32:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader Downloads Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:35:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Mike: > I know the question of total number of Acrobat Reader > Downloads has been > raised > several times over the last few months. Here's the latest > word from Adobe > corporate > marketing on statistics for Reader Downloads: > Acrobat Reader is being downloaded over 70,000 times/day, up from > 50,000/day a year ago. We estimated a total of 30 million > downloads earlier > this year. Thanks for the update! But.... could you _please_ be more specific! Maybe with a date... or a download total current to 6/1/98. "Earlier this year" just don't cut it.... Basically, I'd like to be able to definitively state that: "As of 6/1/98, users have downloaded Reader over 30,000,000 times." Simple? Yes. Simple-minded? Maybe. Useful for marketing? DEFINATELY. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 21:53:18-GMT,3085;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01045 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:53:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17139; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:17:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:15:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17007; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:15:07 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:29:07 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf links?? Cc: Daniel Mason Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Daniel, this is essentially possible. You would have the "specification" procedure, which could be PDF based, or not, where the client enters and submits the data. You then create a FDF file which you fill (most likely on the server) into the base PDF and transmit it to the client. This PDF document would include "administrative" buttons, allowing the client to order. Pictures can be dynamically replaced as image of a button field. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Heres a vague, (detail-lacking) question for you guys!! > >My boss has asked me to research the possibility of creating a on-line, >brochure-creating, pdf type effort. (?????) > >We are looking at ways for our clients to log on and be asked standard >questions like name, address etc and also what they are interested in >(pop down type, say 10 options). The system would then automatically >create a pdf brochure based on an existing master document and the >specified fields, using a database of pictures and text inserted or >switched. Instantly viewable by client. They could then order it from us >and we would print it?? Great eh? > >So how can we do it? >..and are picture within pdfs 'exchangeable' like in Quark? > >Thanks for any ideas or just reminding me that I'm just a bit too >optimistic!! > >-- >Daniel Mason > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 22:12:39-GMT,2434;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01482 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:12:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16715; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:09:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:04:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16443; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:04:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980714160301.0076bea8@mail-345> X-Sender: mzahorik@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:03:01 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mike Zahorik Subject: [PDF] Reader Downloads Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I know the question of total number of Acrobat Reader Downloads has been raised several times over the last few months. Here's the latest word from Adobe corporate marketing on statistics for Reader Downloads: Acrobat Reader is being downloaded over 70,000 times/day, up from 50,000/day a year ago. We estimated a total of 30 million downloads earlier this year. While those figures certainly speak to sustained and growing demand for viewing PDF files, the even more interesting fact is that Acrobat 3.0 just completed its 6th quarter on the market since the product launched in Nov. '96 with an all time record high for sales/quarter. That tells us there is also a growing and sustained demand for creating, editing and using PDF files as interactive web forms, for data collections and archiving, and for review and collaboration. ..................................... Mike Zahorik Enterprise VAR Account Manager Adobe Systems, Inc. 6133 N. River Road, Suite 740 Rosemont IL 60018 Phone 847 384 7316 Fax 847 384 7350 mzahorik@adobe.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 14-Jul-1998 22:23:53-GMT,2441;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01779 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:23:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18663; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:42:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:40:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18466; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:40:13 -0500 Message-ID: <35ABD15A.7F43436F@aegisgroup.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:45:03 -0500 From: Dan Dilamarter Organization: Aegis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader Downloads References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > If it was 30 million downloads EARLIER this year, it's MORE now, right? Basically, I'd like to be able to definitively state that: "As of 6/1/98, users have downloaded Reader _OVER_ 30,000,000 times." So say it! Dan Dilamarter > Thanks for the update! But.... could you _please_ be more specific! > Maybe with a date... or a download total current to 6/1/98. "Earlier > this year" just don't cut it.... > > Basically, I'd like to be able to definitively state that: "As of > 6/1/98, users have downloaded Reader over 30,000,000 times." > > Simple? Yes. Simple-minded? Maybe. Useful for marketing? DEFINATELY. > > Duff Johnson > Document Solutions, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 0:15:55-GMT,2634;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04517 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:15:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23908; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:31:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:28:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23703; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:27:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader Downloads Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:31:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Dan: Not to appear (overly) pedantic, but these little details (a) can bite, if mishandled, and (b) it would be NICE TO KNOW!! God forbid.... but regular (say, quarterly) updates would be nice as well! ...and a big "thank you" to Kurt for correcting my faulty grammer off-line. Must be a lazy day in Madison, Wisconsin..... :-) Duff. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Dilamarter [mailto:ddilamarter@aegisgroup.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 2:45 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader Downloads > > > > If it was 30 million downloads EARLIER this year, it's MORE > now, right? > > Basically, I'd like to be able to definitively state that: "As of > 6/1/98, users have downloaded Reader _OVER_ 30,000,000 times." > > So say it! > > Dan Dilamarter > > > > Thanks for the update! But.... could you _please_ be more specific! > > Maybe with a date... or a download total current to 6/1/98. > "Earlier > > this year" just don't cut it.... > > > > Basically, I'd like to be able to definitively state that: "As of > > 6/1/98, users have downloaded Reader over 30,000,000 times." > > > > Simple? Yes. Simple-minded? Maybe. Useful for > marketing? DEFINATELY. > > > > Duff Johnson > > Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 1:02:31-GMT,1769;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05706 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:02:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26854; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:40:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:37:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26648; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:37:16 -0500 From: flex@interport.net X-Sender: flex@pop.interport.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:31:02 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Stuffit Bug? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Golive swears that there is a bug in stuffit (a compression utility for the mac) which misreads some pdfs that are archived as.bin hex or .sit They also say that checking the "never translate" text encoding preference in Stuffit will fix problems with PDFs downloaded for viewing on the Mac. Does anyone have a BETTER solution than expecting people to read the instructions? There must be a specific type of Post Script data that is mangled. TIA Bill _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 2:15:11-GMT,2253;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07115 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:15:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA30099; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:51:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:39:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29624; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:39:38 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Stuffit Bug? Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:31:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bdaf91$6abf90e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Golive swears that there is a bug in stuffit (a compression > utility for the > mac) which misreads some pdfs that are archived as.bin hex > or .sit They > also say that checking the "never translate" text encoding > preference in > Stuffit will fix problems with PDFs downloaded for viewing on the Mac. > Does anyone have a BETTER solution than expecting people to read the > instructions? There must be a specific type of Post Script > data that is > mangled. The Stuffit Web site has much the same advice, from the official source. See http://www.aladdinsys.com/faqs/dlx9.html. What gets mangled is things resembling line endings which happen to fall in binary data. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 8:56:50-GMT,1817;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14984 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:56:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA11259; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 03:02:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:57:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11044; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:57:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980715024831.007b8e50@up.bresnan.net> X-Sender: fosmire@up.bresnan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:48:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] No spaces in note Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On creating a note using Tools, Note I find that the note will not allow any spaces to be typed in, nor will Backspace delete the current character. I can type a note, butitlookslikethis or_using_underscores_it_looks_like_this. This happens on two different computers, home and office. It also happens with the Ambia Re:mark version, the Pop-up Comment. I am using Exchange 3.01. Has anyone else seen this? _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 10:04:13-GMT,1909;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16102 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 04:04:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14840; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 04:48:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 04:45:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14726; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 04:45:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:46:45 +1200 (NZST) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000f01bdaf91$6abf90e0$0101c6c0@gateway> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: RE: [PDF] Stuffit Bug? Cc: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 2:31 AM +0100 on 15/7/98, Aandi Inston wrote: > > Golive swears that there is a bug in stuffit (a compression > > utility for the > > mac) why not use ZipIt for mac?? :)> andrew ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 10:04:29-GMT,2417;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16107 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 04:04:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14976; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 04:51:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 04:49:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14867; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 04:49:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:46:45 +1200 (NZST) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000f01bdaf91$6abf90e0$0101c6c0@gateway> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: RE: [PDF] Stuffit Bug? Cc: URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 2:31 AM +0100 on 15/7/98, Aandi Inston wrote: > > Golive swears that there is a bug in stuffit (a compression > > utility for the > > mac) why not use ZipIt for mac?? :)> andrew ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 11:54:03-GMT,3916;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA17905 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 05:54:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18923; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:39:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:36:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18743; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:36:54 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:36:37 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Catalog/Mac -Indexing pdfs w/duplicated fields To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691BEE@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I had a similar problem. I would like to know what "duplicated form fields" means. I used the PDFmark in a text file that gets merged when I postscript a FrameMaker file. The name of the form field shown on each page. Is this duplicate or is it a duplicate only if it occurs on the same PDF page? The problem I have is a similar error occurs in the Windows environment!!! I was not able to index the files in that environment either. I also got errors related to the search engine not freeing HEAP memory. The help people did not tell me about this one, but stated that sometimes the PDF file structure gets damaged. The PDF file displays fine, but you can not index that file. I repostscripted the files and did NOT optimize them and then the index worked some what. Groups of file would index OK, but when I tried to put the groups together, the indexing failed. To our projects this is a serous problem as it is an important function within Acrobat, however I get the impression that Adobe does not agree. If someone has more light to shed on this subject I would appreciate it. I Just had 5,000 CDs pressed with bad indexing. The long overdue deadline left me with little choice, but it is no longer a quality product. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hricko [SMTP:jhricko@penton.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 3:52 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Catalog/Mac -Indexing pdfs w/duplicated fields > > We need to index (using Catalog) lots of pdfs (years of monthly > publication > pages) on an ongoing basis. Lately, we decided to change our routine, and > have added navigation "buttons" to the top of our pages, duplicating them > to all pages. Nice touch, BUT.... > > According to Adobe's CustomerFirst Support > > http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/5812.htm > > we are unable to build indexes for them! (I see mention of "create form > fields using PDFmark commands", but we've already done alot of processing > to these pdfs already. Indexing is the last thing we usually do (I think > we > have to do it last). > > Has Adobe, or anyone else, found a fix or workaround for this? (the bug > only occurs on the Mac -figures...) > > > John Hricko > Penton New Media > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 12:46:44-GMT,2884;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18781 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:46:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21049; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:30:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:28:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20873; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:28:10 -0500 Message-ID: <001701bdafec$3298a890$030010ac@dell2ntsvr1.Office> From: "Greg Pauba" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Error when retrieving document from Searchable CD Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:29:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Aandi, >Single click on an entry in the hit list. >Look at the status line below and write down the EXACT file name >you see (keeping upper and lower case exactly as shown). F:\CORRES~2\APR16_~1.PDF > >Double click to be sure there is a problem. Yes, still gives me the error. > >Now, select the file and Click Info. Check the file name is the >same. Note down the modification date. File name is identical, Modification date is Friday June 12, 1998 10:16pm > >Now, use Windows Explorer to determine whether the file name >you saw actually does exist. If it does exist, check the modification >date. > It exists (F:\CORRESPONDENCE NRC - OPPD\APR 16, 1980 (1).PDF, the long file name corresponds to the 8.3 naming convention). But the last modified date is 6/12/98 8:16pm! - When you use right click-properties on the file, and its directory, what is shown for MS-DOS name for both of these as viewed on the CDROM? It uses the Windows 95 Long File Name (APR 16, 1980 (1).PDF) and the long path name. I am not sure what other file you are referring to in "both of these". - Did you choose Optimize for CDROM when you ran Catalog? Yes It appears when the CD is written it changes the Created & Modified Date to the date and time that the file was copied to the CD. They are both set to Friday, June 12, 1998 8:16:04 PM (Explorer, Properties) _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 12:59:26-GMT,1957;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19045 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:59:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21764; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:46:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:43:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21618; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:43:34 -0500 Message-ID: <002d01bdafee$59bf7a00$030010ac@dell2ntsvr1.Office> From: "Greg Pauba" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Error when retrieving document from Searchable CD Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:44:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Aandi, Oops, wrong conclusion in my last note: "It appears when the CD is written it changes the Created & Modified Date to the date and time that the file was copied to the CD. They are both set to Friday, June 12, 1998 8:16:04 PM (Explorer, Properties)" This would mean that I wrote the CD (June 12, 8:16 PM) before I modified the file that is written to it (June 12, 10:16 PM) Thanks for the help! (Hope you have an answer) Greg _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 13:32:32-GMT,2110;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19707 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:32:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23368; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:15:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:11:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23046; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:11:43 -0500 Message-ID: <35AC9D11.705F76A6@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 23:14:11 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Indexing pdfs w/duplicated fields Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Could someone please humour me and explain this issue a little more as it sounds like a problem we should be having but don't. We create multi-page pdfs (up to about 20) on Mac and PC then transfer all the pdf's to the Mac to assemble. We insert Forms with pdf graphic buttons on all the documents (up to 150 documents) and then finally Catelogue/Index them on the Mac (and we've used the PC) and then burn xplatform CD's. I feel we should be seeing the same problems... but so far nothing or have I missed something. BTW we have followed the same procedure when we had 3.0 and now have 3.1 What gives ? Dean _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 13:33:24-GMT,3142;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19730 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:33:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23618; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:19:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:15:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23369; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:15:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980715061813.007ca950@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:18:13 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: RE: [PDF] Catalog/Mac -Indexing pdfs w/duplicated fields In-Reply-To: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691BEE@ns-bco-mse7.im.batt elle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Jim, Can you give specifics on how you're set up. I'm running Frame 5.1.2, Distiller 3.02, and Catalog 3.01 on Win '95. I have at a minimum 8 form fields per page (all named differently) that I've put in with pdfmarks and I don't have any trouble indexing them. My documents range from 50 to 1,000 pages. At 07:36 AM 7/15/98 -0400, you wrote: >I had a similar problem. I would like to know what "duplicated form fields" >means. I used the PDFmark in a text file that gets merged when I postscript >a FrameMaker file. The name of the form field shown on each page. Is this >duplicate or is it a duplicate only if it occurs on the same PDF page? > >The problem I have is a similar error occurs in the Windows environment!!! I >was not able to index the files in that environment either. > >I also got errors related to the search engine not freeing HEAP memory. The >help people did not tell me about this one, but stated that sometimes the >PDF file structure gets damaged. The PDF file displays fine, but you can not >index that file. > >I repostscripted the files and did NOT optimize them and then the index >worked some what. Groups of file would index OK, but when I tried to put the >groups together, the indexing failed. > >To our projects this is a serous problem as it is an important function >within Acrobat, however I get the impression that Adobe does not agree. > >If someone has more light to shed on this subject I would appreciate it. I >Just had 5,000 CDs pressed with bad indexing. The long overdue deadline left >me with little choice, but it is no longer a quality product. > >Jim > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 15:08:58-GMT,2299;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21837 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:08:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28717; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:45:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:41:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28288; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:41:01 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:40:39 -0400 From: Melissa Sloan To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] forms? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi. I need a little help. I'm not sure if this has come up before or not, but right now I have about twenty papers that I put into pdf and I have a page (pdf) that serves as a table of contents, linking to each paper (open file option), then on each paper I used the form tool to create a button with an action set to open up the table of contents. I used "duplicate fields" to put a button on each page. This works fine when I open up papers in exchange, however, when I open then in reader (how the users of this table of contents will open it), sometimes the buttons work, but sometimes I get a message "bad parameter" and after clicking ok, none of the links work on the table of contents page. Ideally I would like to put about 150 papers into this flie, each with a link or button on each page that takes you back to the table of contents. Can anyone tell me/give suggestions on how to do so without getting this error? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Melissa _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 15:09:19-GMT,2652;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21852 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:09:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28843; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:45:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:43:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28534; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:43:29 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:43:15 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Catalog/Mac -Indexing pdfs w/duplicated fields To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691BF0@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We are using Frame 5.5.3, Distiller 3.02, Catalog 3.0 (installed from 3.01 CD), and Exchange 3.01 for the Mac. The Mac is PPC 8500 with a 275 G3 board and has 112 MB. The Dell is running Windows 95 and has the apps installed from the 3.01 CD. The PDF pages are approximately 5 by 6 and the documents range from 1 page to about 25 pages. Not heavy in text, but loaded with bookmarks and links. At the bottom of each page is a series of graphical buttons that have roll overs attached. I used the forms PDF markers to create the links and roll over markers. This information is in a text file that is referenced from a FrameMaker text box that is set as PostScript. I hope this helps Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Hamlow [SMTP:scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 9:18 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Catalog/Mac -Indexing pdfs w/duplicated fields > > Jim, > > Can you give specifics on how you're set up. I'm running Frame 5.1.2, > Distiller 3.02, and Catalog 3.01 on Win '95. > > I have at a minimum 8 form fields per page (all named differently) that > I've put in with pdfmarks and I don't have any trouble indexing them. My > documents range from 50 to 1,000 pages. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 15:14:41-GMT,2594;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21999 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:14:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29844; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:51:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:49:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29464; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:49:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:26:50 -0500 (GMT) From: Satyanarayan X-Sender: usatra01@obelix To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Search Text. In-Reply-To: <35AC9D11.705F76A6@realworld.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello, Good Morning, We are working on a large project in which the customer does not want the Images to be OCRed. However to enhance searchability; 1. We would like to add Background search text to PDF Image files in addition to the Document Information fields. Is there any way of doing this without using Capture 2.0 ?? 2. We would like to make the Bookmarks Text searchable. Is there any way we can do this?? Any Plug-Ins are available? 3. Is text added in the Forms fields searchable?? 4. We would like to add the Heading and Sub-headings on each page as searchable text to the PDF file. Is there any way of doing this?? Thanks in advance for any help. Satyanarayan --------------------------------------- | Satyanarayan R. Bindingnavale | | Senior Manager Business Development,| | Vetri Systems Inc., | | 2690 Crooks Road, Suite 305 | | Troy, Michigan 48084 | | ___________________________________ | | E-mail: satya@vetri.com | | Web site:www.vetri.com | | Tel off: 810 362-1777 | | Fax off: 810 362-1779 | --------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 15:55:47-GMT,3147;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22961 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:55:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32136; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:31:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:28:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31875; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:27:59 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980715075748.007d14f0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:57:48 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] forms? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Melissa, Do you have access to the source files and if so, what application are they created in? I have done exactly what you want to do, using pdfmarks in FrameMaker. --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- At 10:40 AM 7/15/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hi. I need a little help. I'm not sure if >this has come up before or not, but right >now I have about twenty papers that I put >into pdf and I have a page (pdf) that serves >as a table of contents, linking to each >paper (open file option), then on each paper >I used the form tool to create a button with >an action set to open up the table of >contents. I used "duplicate fields" to put >a button on each page. > >This works fine when I open up papers in >exchange, however, when I open then in >reader (how the users of this table of >contents will open it), sometimes the >buttons work, but sometimes I get a message >"bad parameter" and after clicking ok, none >of the links work on the table of contents >page. > >Ideally I would like to put about 150 papers >into this flie, each with a link or button >on each page that takes you back to the >table of contents. Can anyone tell me/give >suggestions on how to do so without getting >this error? > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Thank you, >Melissa > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 16:01:36-GMT,1534;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23155 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:01:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00021; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:44:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:40:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32589; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:40:09 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256642.0055E467.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:39:32 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Off topic - LIVE BIRTH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I asked here because I dont know where else to... Does anyone know the website address for that "live birth" video? How would someone search that on Yahoo anyways? Thanks _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 16:02:20-GMT,2249;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23163 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:02:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00312; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:49:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:45:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00092; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:45:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] apostrophes Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:46:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com When an Exchange document containing Arial 12 pt text is printed to file as post script using Distiller 3.0 PS driver for NT, apostrophes disappear (Driver settings are the default: True Type Font Download Option; Automatic, Font Substitution Table; Arial: , also: True Type Font Download Option; Automatic or Outline, Font Substitution Table; Arial: ). Apostrophes are placed on top of the "s" with no space separating "s" and the preceding letter under the following conditions: Driver settings are: True Type Font Download Option; Automatic or Outline, Font Substitution Table; Arial: ). How can I keep this from happening? We process many documents. This prohibits us from taking the time to correct each document by hand. Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 16:37:55-GMT,1743;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24037 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:37:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02298; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:16:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:12:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02041; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:12:36 -0500 From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VANCPOWER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256642.0058FF05.00@ojsmtpmta02.vapower.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:12:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] apostrophes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Nathan Keller wrote: When an Exchange document containing Arial 12 pt text is printed to file as post script using Distiller 3.0 PS driver for NT, apostrophes disappear ... ------------------------ You should get the Adobe PS5.0 printer driver for NT, available on Adobe's web site. There are numerous bugs in the PS4 driver that shipped with NT4 (the Distiller PPD has not changed. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 16:38:02-GMT,1406;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24045 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:38:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01538; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:04:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:00:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01162; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:00:49 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: GWI From: "Vanessa McNeill" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256642.00570888.00@gwi_appserver1.gwi.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:51:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Off topic - LIVE BIRTH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com It was on www.cnn.com I don't know if it would still be there. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 17:16:27-GMT,3761;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24936 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:16:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03755; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:44:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:40:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03546; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:40:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199807151639.JAA03798@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Location: San Jose (ISAACS_1) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:39:22 -0700 To: Benzi Schreiber From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] Re: smoothing text Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <01BDAF23.3C75A120.bschreiber@olivr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Benzi, For better or for worse, this is the tradeoff problem with publishing for screen versus for paper. Paper output is typically produced via relatively high resolution devices. Screen display can be via a range of devices and technologies. Output on a reguluar ol' VGA monitor at 640x480 is going to do a miserable job with 10pt type at 100%. On the other hand, my desktop system with a 1600x1200 video subsystem does just fine with such type. The issue is more complex than just the type size and magnification. Certain type faces display better on lower resolution devices. Both Microsoft and Adobe have put out some very fine typefaces for "Web" use. What that really means is that these faces don't look all that bad and retain their style reasonably well on lower resolution and magnification devices. The real answer to your question of "is there a standard minimum font size for PDF" is "no there is no such standard minimum size." Minimum size is a personal choice dictated by resolution and magnification characteristics of the output device as well as the design characteristics of the individual typeface. - Dov At 7/14/98 02:30 AM , Benzi Schreiber wrote: >Dov - > >I was talking about the doc text. Turning off the "smooth text and >monochrome images" option does, indeed, make the text look sharper - but >also uglier. > >When I zoom in even a little, the text looks fine, so I think it may be an >issue of the font size (10 pts), which looks fine in print but no so >fantastic on the screen. Is there a standard minimum font size for PDF >docs? > >Thanks > >Benzi > >======= >Benzi, > >Which text are you referring to? Text in the screen captures or actual >document text? In the case of document text, depending upon the screen >size, text size, video drivers, etc. that you have, you may wish to turn >off the "smooth text and monochrome images" option in the "preferences" >for either Exchange or Reader. This turns off the "anti-aliasing" feature >for text which some people love and probably as many hate. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 17:18:46-GMT,4269;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24992 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:18:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04546; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:56:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:54:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04369; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:54:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199807151639.JAA03798@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Location: San Jose (ISAACS_1) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:39:22 -0700 Old-To: Benzi Schreiber From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] Re: smoothing text Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <01BDAF23.3C75A120.bschreiber@olivr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Benzi, For better or for worse, this is the tradeoff problem with publishing for screen versus for paper. Paper output is typically produced via relatively high resolution devices. Screen display can be via a range of devices and technologies. Output on a reguluar ol' VGA monitor at 640x480 is going to do a miserable job with 10pt type at 100%. On the other hand, my desktop system with a 1600x1200 video subsystem does just fine with such type. The issue is more complex than just the type size and magnification. Certain type faces display better on lower resolution devices. Both Microsoft and Adobe have put out some very fine typefaces for "Web" use. What that really means is that these faces don't look all that bad and retain their style reasonably well on lower resolution and magnification devices. The real answer to your question of "is there a standard minimum font size for PDF" is "no there is no such standard minimum size." Minimum size is a personal choice dictated by resolution and magnification characteristics of the output device as well as the design characteristics of the individual typeface. - Dov At 7/14/98 02:30 AM , Benzi Schreiber wrote: >Dov - > >I was talking about the doc text. Turning off the "smooth text and >monochrome images" option does, indeed, make the text look sharper - but >also uglier. > >When I zoom in even a little, the text looks fine, so I think it may be an >issue of the font size (10 pts), which looks fine in print but no so >fantastic on the screen. Is there a standard minimum font size for PDF >docs? > >Thanks > >Benzi > >======= >Benzi, > >Which text are you referring to? Text in the screen captures or actual >document text? In the case of document text, depending upon the screen >size, text size, video drivers, etc. that you have, you may wish to turn >off the "smooth text and monochrome images" option in the "preferences" >for either Exchange or Reader. This turns off the "anti-aliasing" feature >for text which some people love and probably as many hate. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 17:18:49-GMT,2562;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24997 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:18:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05103; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:03:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:01:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04897; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:01:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <88256642.0055E467.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:31:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Off topic - C'Mon?!STOP! Cc: "Robert Lira" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >I asked here because I dont know where else to... You really had *NO* better idea than to post such a question to a list created *specifically* for discussions related to Adobe Acrobat & pdf??! Do NOT repeat this mistake on any of the lists managed by The PDFzone -- repeat off-topic, totally irrelevant posts like this will lead to being removed from the list(s). Also: PLEASE, everyone, if you are going to respond to BLATANTLY OFF-TOPIC posts like this, do NOT post your replies back to the list for all 1900+ subscribers to have to read. It's bad enough they had to see it -- and this reply -- even once. 'Nuf said -- no more public replies to this thread! tks in advance for your cooperation. rgds ~ Kurt __________________________________________________ * T h e P D F z o n e * __________________________________________________ (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com ------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 17:20:17-GMT,1471;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25029 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:20:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03990; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:47:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:44:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03772; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:44:33 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" To: stabile@tfn.com cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256642.005B7549.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:40:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Off topic - LIVE BIRTH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com HELLO, I did that, einstein and it doesnt have it. Try going through a few hundred!!!! _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 17:23:01-GMT,1979;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25090 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:23:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04460; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:55:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:52:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04274; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:52:55 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ICN From: "Robert Lira" Old-To: stabile@tfn.com cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256642.005B7549.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:40:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Off topic - LIVE BIRTH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com HELLO, I did that, einstein and it doesnt have it. Try going through a few hundred!!!! _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 17:56:12-GMT,2809;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25881 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:56:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07158; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:34:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:32:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07004; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:32:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <88256642.005B7549.00@lnmailman.icnpharma.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:30:49 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Off topic - STOP II! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com So sorry to have to burden everyone with yet another -- and I hope, the FINAL -- comment on this matter. >HELLO, I did that, einstein and it doesnt have it. Try going through a few >hundred!!!! Hmmm, wonder which part of my previous warning Mr. Lira didn't understand: " 'Nuf said -- no more public replies to this thread!" Alas, not feeling too charitable today after having the usually professional tone of this list dragged down to that of the average newsgroup, I've relieved him of his alleged burden of dealing with list list rules, footers & and the like. If ever a subscriber feels inspired to lash out at me about something I post here, they are more than welcome so long as they don't try to make it into a public spectacle. Violating TWO list rules back-to-back is no way to endear oneself to list management. After, the reality is: The list administrator always gets the final word! ;-} Now, please carry on with the many other relevant & helpful discussions here. tks again ~ Kurt __________________________________________________ * T h e P D F z o n e * __________________________________________________ (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com ------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 18:57:50-GMT,2084;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27360 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:57:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10399; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:26:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:23:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10269; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:23:26 -0500 Message-ID: <35ACF466.EDAFF88C@reivax.com.br> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:26:46 -0300 From: Ricardo Monteiro Organization: REIVAX Automaçăo e Controle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Off topic - C'Mon?!STOP! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Congratulations for your **very friendly** treatment of us subcsribers!! Kurt Foss wrote: > > >I asked here because I dont know where else to... > > You really had *NO* better idea than to post such a question to a list > created *specifically* for discussions related to Adobe Acrobat & pdf??! Do > NOT repeat this mistake on any of the lists managed by The PDFzone -- > repeat off-topic, totally irrelevant posts like this will lead to being > removed from the list(s). -- Ricardo Monteiro Quality Manager REIVAX Automaçăo e Controle Voice/fax (+55-48) 334-9000 http://www.reivax.com.br mailto:info@reivax.com.br _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 18:58:10-GMT,2096;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27367 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:58:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11313; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:39:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:33:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10872; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:33:37 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199807151833.AA10507@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 98 14:26:41 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I'll figure this out eventually, but maybe someone already has... I've created a .pdf file from an 11x17 layout. I used the adobe ps4 print driver, and middle of the road compression. The file is about 384k. If I crop 8.5 inches from the file and save, the file is about 390k. What gives? I tried again using a tektronix 300i printer to create my .prn - same results. Exporting an .eps does not retain the proper page size (loss of about .5 inch on all borders), but does produce the smallest file size, and speediest redraw. I'm not a frequent corel user, so methods for .pdf output would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Corbin _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 19:14:59-GMT,1740;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27808 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:14:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13077; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:00:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:58:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12904; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:58:36 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256642.0067B6EA.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:55:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Corbin: You wrote: >I've created a .pdf file from an 11x17 layout. I used the adobe ps4 > print driver, and middle of the road compression. The file is about > 384k. If I crop 8.5 inches from the file and save, the file is about > 390k. What gives? Why crop the image in Acrobat? I'd suggest cropping your image in Corel, save it as a new file, then create your postscript and PDF. --Karen _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 19:21:35-GMT,2842;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27998 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:21:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13605; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:08:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:06:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13466; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:06:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:09:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Corbin, Why not use Distiller Assistant as your print driver? All you do is print the file directly from CorelDraw using Distiller (as if it was a real printer). Distiller automatically generates the PDF file, asks you where to save it and then you're done. You can tweak it later. Sam -----Original Message----- From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com [mailto:csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 12:27 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 I'll figure this out eventually, but maybe someone already has... I've created a .pdf file from an 11x17 layout. I used the adobe ps4 print driver, and middle of the road compression. The file is about 384k. If I crop 8.5 inches from the file and save, the file is about 390k. What gives? I tried again using a tektronix 300i printer to create my .prn - same results. Exporting an .eps does not retain the proper page size (loss of about .5 inch on all borders), but does produce the smallest file size, and speediest redraw. I'm not a frequent corel user, so methods for .pdf output would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Corbin _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 19:32:33-GMT,3920;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28233 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:32:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13864; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:11:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:09:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13686; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:09:44 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Error when retrieving document from Searchable CD Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:24:08 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bdb024$1bb993e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <001701bdafec$3298a890$030010ac@dell2ntsvr1.Office> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > >Single click on an entry in the hit list. > >Look at the status line below and write down the EXACT file name > >you see (keeping upper and lower case exactly as shown). > > F:\CORRES~2\APR16_~1.PDF > > > >Double click to be sure there is a problem. > > Yes, still gives me the error. > > > >Now, select the file and Click Info. Check the file name is the > >same. Note down the modification date. > > File name is identical, Modification date is Friday June 12, > 1998 10:16pm I'll forget about the modification date for now. It would potentially be a problem if you had NOT used optimize for CDROM, since if this is not selected Search will check the modification date. > > > >Now, use Windows Explorer to determine whether the file name > >you saw actually does exist. If it does exist, check the modification > >date. > > > It exists (F:\CORRESPONDENCE NRC - OPPD\APR 16, 1980 > (1).PDF, the long file > name corresponds to the 8.3 naming convention). But the last > modified date > is 6/12/98 8:16pm! > > - When you use right click-properties on the file, and its > directory, what > is shown for MS-DOS name for both of these as viewed on the CDROM? > It uses the Windows 95 Long File Name (APR 16, 1980 > (1).PDF) and the > long path name. I am not sure what other file you are > referring to in > "both of > these". Take a look at a long file name on disk with properties. You should see the long name, and next to MS-Dos name the truncated version of the name. If you aren't seeing that, I think we have found your problem. The short names are not making it to the CDROM. That isn't surprising if you use long names, I think: the dual long/short name is implemented in the FAT (disk file table) and CDROMs do not have a FAT. Now, Catalog stores 16-bit (short) file names. There is a good reason for this because the basic (ISO9660?) CDROM format does not support long names. There remains no portable cross-platform CDROM format with long names, so short names are VERY much recommended (and the CDROM names are more restrictive than MS-DOS). I will have to leave it up to others to suggest what options apply, since I've never actually had to cut a CDROM myself. You might like to post what CD-burning software you are using and what options you've chosen. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 19:37:21-GMT,2339;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28326 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14717; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:23:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:20:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14555; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:20:33 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:14:21 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bdb025$9ee30ac0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199807151833.AA10507@interlock.mgh.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > I've created a .pdf file from an 11x17 layout. I used > the adobe ps4 > print driver, and middle of the road compression. The > file is about > 384k. If I crop 8.5 inches from the file and save, the > file is about > 390k. What gives? Two things. 1. Cropping just notes down the crop you've requested. This is not like Photoshop, say. The crop can be reversed at any time and you will see the original information, still there. Exchange provides no tools for removing objects, hidden or otherwise, though PitStop would let you delete them one at a time. 2. SAVE always appends to the file, and ALWAYS makes it longer. In this case the change was very small, just changing the crop box. To reduce file sizes you must use SAVE AS. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 19:52:28-GMT,2057;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28715 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:52:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15544; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:38:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:35:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15380; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:35:42 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980715202958.0081f100@mail.btinternet.com> X-Sender: djm.lists@mail.btinternet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:29:58 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David J Murray Subject: [PDF] PDF from Lotus Freelance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com This may be a very naive question, as I'm quite new to pdf. I have a substantial number of training presentations used in my management consultancy, all produced in the Lotus Freelance 97 presentation graphics package. I have tried converting several of them to pdf using both the Pdf Writer and Distiller 3.01. Whichever method I use I get shades of grey rather than full-colour. When I use the same methods of printing to pdf from PageMaker 6.5 I get good colour, but don't want to have to re-do hundreds of slides in PageMaker. Can anyone suggest what I may be missing? Thanks, - David Murray - Maine Consulting Services, UK _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 20:14:11-GMT,3510;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29221 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:14:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15900; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:44:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:42:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15723; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:42:09 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199807151942.AA25895@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 98 15:36:59 -0500 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com the file size still remains a problem - the 8.5x11 cropped page is bigger than the 11x17! thanks for the suggestion ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 Author: at ccnode Date: 7/15/98 3:35 PM Corbin, Why not use Distiller Assistant as your print driver? All you do is print the file directly from CorelDraw using Distiller (as if it was a real printer). Distiller automatically generates the PDF file, asks you where to save it and then you're done. You can tweak it later. Sam -----Original Message----- From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com [mailto:csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 12:27 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 I'll figure this out eventually, but maybe someone already has... I've created a .pdf file from an 11x17 layout. I used the adobe ps4 print driver, and middle of the road compression. The file is about 384k. If I crop 8.5 inches from the file and save, the file is about 390k. What gives? I tried again using a tektronix 300i printer to create my .prn - same results. Exporting an .eps does not retain the proper page size (loss of about .5 inch on all borders), but does produce the smallest file size, and speediest redraw. I'm not a frequent corel user, so methods for .pdf output would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Corbin _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 20:14:48-GMT,2707;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29237 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:14:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16230; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:48:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:46:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16054; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:46:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199807151945.MAA28040@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Location: San Jose (ISAACS_1) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:45:54 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, David J Murray From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from Lotus Freelance In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980715202958.0081f100@mail.btinternet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 7/15/98 12:29 PM , David J Murray wrote: > >This may be a very naive question, as I'm quite new to pdf. I have a >substantial number of training presentations used in my management >consultancy, all produced in the Lotus Freelance 97 presentation graphics >package. I have tried converting several of them to pdf using both the Pdf >Writer and Distiller 3.01. Whichever method I use I get shades of grey >rather than full-colour. When I use the same methods of printing to pdf >from PageMaker 6.5 I get good colour, but don't want to have to re-do >hundreds of slides in PageMaker. Can anyone suggest what I may be missing? > >Thanks, > >- David Murray - >Maine Consulting Services, UK What you are likely missing is the correct driver. AdobePS 4.2.3 corrects a Windows bug that causes most output to be done in monochrome if your default printer is monochrome. If you are already using AdobePS 4.2.3, then the likely cause of your problem is use of the wrong PPD with the driver. - Dov _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 20:15:36-GMT,2588;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29266 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:15:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16933; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:00:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:56:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16680; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:56:01 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199807151955.AA28635@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 98 15:48:00 -0500 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The file size is reduced this way,(I now realize that a "crop" in acrobat is not a permanent change) but Corel seems to dislike exporting fonts in a .ps, the only way I've been able to keep the fonts from bitmapping has been to export an .eps, which crops the page... thanks ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 Author: at ccnode Date: 7/15/98 3:43 PM Corbin: You wrote: >I've created a .pdf file from an 11x17 layout. I used the adobe ps4 > print driver, and middle of the road compression. The file is about > 384k. If I crop 8.5 inches from the file and save, the file is about > 390k. What gives? Why crop the image in Acrobat? I'd suggest cropping your image in Corel, save it as a new file, then create your postscript and PDF. --Karen _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 21:00:43-GMT,3765;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00317 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:00:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19249; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:44:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:41:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19051; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:41:39 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199807152041.AA10027@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 98 16:38:13 -0500 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Figured it out, I was able to solve the problem by placing an 8.5x11 bounding rectangle around the page before exporting to .eps - no crop, and all my fonts - finally! The file size was reduced by placing the box on 1/2 of the page, selecting that half of the page, and exporting the selection only. thanks for all the help, Corbin ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 Author: at ccnode Date: 7/15/98 4:37 PM Corbin, Why not use Distiller Assistant as your print driver? All you do is print the file directly from CorelDraw using Distiller (as if it was a real printer). Distiller automatically generates the PDF file, asks you where to save it and then you're done. You can tweak it later. Sam -----Original Message----- From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com [mailto:csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 12:27 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 I'll figure this out eventually, but maybe someone already has... I've created a .pdf file from an 11x17 layout. I used the adobe ps4 print driver, and middle of the road compression. The file is about 384k. If I crop 8.5 inches from the file and save, the file is about 390k. What gives? I tried again using a tektronix 300i printer to create my .prn - same results. Exporting an .eps does not retain the proper page size (loss of about .5 inch on all borders), but does produce the smallest file size, and speediest redraw. I'm not a frequent corel user, so methods for .pdf output would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Corbin _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 21:48:21-GMT,2908;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01516 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:48:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21725; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:30:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:27:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21526; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:27:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:27:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Lloyd Nesfield To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from Lotus Freelance In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980715202958.0081f100@mail.btinternet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >From the info provided I would guess you are using the Microsoft Postscript driver. You should download the Adobe PS driver 4.1 or 4.23 along with the PPD for Adobe Distiller. Install the Adobe Distiller as a printer and use it to generate your PS files for distilling. If possible set up the Adobe Distiller Printer to the same port as Distiller Assistant. This gives a 1 step process for generating PDF's. Distiller Assistant installs initially only with the Microsoft Printer Driver, but it can be replaced with the Adobe driver. On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, David J Murray wrote: > > This may be a very naive question, as I'm quite new to pdf. I have a > substantial number of training presentations used in my management > consultancy, all produced in the Lotus Freelance 97 presentation graphics > package. I have tried converting several of them to pdf using both the Pdf > Writer and Distiller 3.01. Whichever method I use I get shades of grey > rather than full-colour. When I use the same methods of printing to pdf > from PageMaker 6.5 I get good colour, but don't want to have to re-do > hundreds of slides in PageMaker. Can anyone suggest what I may be missing? > > Thanks, > > - David Murray - > Maine Consulting Services, UK > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 22:49:13-GMT,2390;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02699 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24673; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:32:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:29:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24460; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:29:01 -0500 Message-ID: <35AD3E08.4D211BDC@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:40:59 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Search/Indexes References: <199807131557.AA13704@gateway1.srs.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Check out Muscat. They have a terrific environment. R. Moran april.price@srs.gov wrote: > I am looking for a Search Engine or Indexer that will search/index > encripted PDF's and html's. I am using the plug-in indexer from > WebStar, which locks up on encripted files. Cost is a factor. > Thanks, avp > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Voice 203-452-1116 Fax 203-452-0416 e-mail remoran@dconstructs.com e-mail remoran@kiwi.futuris.net Web Site: It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 15-Jul-1998 22:54:37-GMT,4933;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02802 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:54:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25062; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:40:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:38:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24898; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:38:38 -0500 Message-ID: <003001bdb041$76b46aa0$030010ac@dell2ntsvr1.Office> From: "Greg Pauba" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Error when retrieving document from Searchable CD Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:39:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Aandi, I think you hit it when you said that I there might be trouble with the long file names. The MS-DOS name from Explorer says 'APR16_~B.pdf' and Info from the Adobe Search says it is APR16_~1.pdf. I authored the CD using Incat EasyCD Pro 95 and select the Romeo filename convention that supposedly allows Windows 95 long file names of up to 128 characters. The user wanted long, descriptive filenames only on a Windows 95 machine. But may have to experiment with other filenames. Thanks again Aandi for your help in identifying the problem. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 2:17 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Error when retrieving document from Searchable CD > >> >Single click on an entry in the hit list. >> >Look at the status line below and write down the EXACT file name >> >you see (keeping upper and lower case exactly as shown). >> >> F:\CORRES~2\APR16_~1.PDF >> > >> >Double click to be sure there is a problem. >> >> Yes, still gives me the error. >> > >> >Now, select the file and Click Info. Check the file name is the >> >same. Note down the modification date. >> >> File name is identical, Modification date is Friday June 12, >> 1998 10:16pm > >I'll forget about the modification date for now. It would potentially >be a problem if you had NOT used optimize for CDROM, since if this >is not selected Search will check the modification date. > >> > >> >Now, use Windows Explorer to determine whether the file name >> >you saw actually does exist. If it does exist, check the modification >> >date. >> > >> It exists (F:\CORRESPONDENCE NRC - OPPD\APR 16, 1980 >> (1).PDF, the long file >> name corresponds to the 8.3 naming convention). But the last >> modified date >> is 6/12/98 8:16pm! >> >> - When you use right click-properties on the file, and its >> directory, what >> is shown for MS-DOS name for both of these as viewed on the CDROM? >> It uses the Windows 95 Long File Name (APR 16, 1980 >> (1).PDF) and the >> long path name. I am not sure what other file you are >> referring to in >> "both of >> these". > >Take a look at a long file name on disk with properties. You >should see the long name, and next to MS-Dos name the truncated >version of the name. > >If you aren't seeing that, I think we have found your problem. >The short names are not making it to the CDROM. That isn't >surprising if you use long names, I think: the dual long/short >name is implemented in the FAT (disk file table) and CDROMs >do not have a FAT. > >Now, Catalog stores 16-bit (short) file names. There is a good >reason for this because the basic (ISO9660?) CDROM format does >not support long names. There remains no portable cross-platform >CDROM format with long names, so short names are VERY much >recommended (and the CDROM names are more restrictive than >MS-DOS). > >I will have to leave it up to others to suggest what options >apply, since I've never actually had to cut a CDROM myself. >You might like to post what CD-burning software you are using >and what options you've chosen. > >Aandi > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 1:04:56-GMT,4622;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05385 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:04:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29793; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:41:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:38:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29692; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:38:28 -0500 Message-ID: <35AD3DE6.75C9D759@realworld.com.au> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:40:25 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] forms? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi Melissa, Following text is clipped from a post of mine about a month ago which should fix you up for your Bad Parameters error, and another watchout on Forms. PROBLEM 1 1: "Bad Parameters" error between PDF's There is a documented bug in Exchange and Reader which was causing my problems of "Bad Parameters" Essentially you cannot ask Exchange / Reader to open a single page pdf (menu screen) in Continuous Page view by a Form tool, ....IF... the file you are creating the Form button in is a multi page pdf. i.e.. Exchange / Reader spits the dummy on the logic when asked to open the other single page file in Continuous Page View. Interestingly the Form link does initially work from the 1st or 2nd page of the pdf, but after then the error "Bad Parameter" kicks in on subsequent duplicated form buttons. The answer is to NEVER use Continuous Page view in the target pdf view. Adobe tech support say it has been noted and will be dealt with. PROBLEM 2 Problem was: error message: ACROEX32 caused an invalid page fault in module ACROEX32.EXE at 0137:00436175. Registers: EAX=03160470 CS=0137 EIP=00436175 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=0158e158 SS=013f ESP=007df490 EBP=007d0001 ECX=000000ff DS=013f ESI=02e11394 FS=295f EDX=02ef01e8 ES=013f EDI=03160470 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 66 8b 80 88 00 00 00 c3 8b 44 24 04 83 b8 80 00 Stack dump: 01551cd2 03160470 03160470 02e11394 01555a8d 03160470 007df59c 00000001 00000070 01800013 004490c7 0158e018 0000001f 01800013 02e11394 c7360141 Answer is that Acrobat doesn't like being told to "Open File" from a Form button using the " On mouse down" command, but mouse DOWN only. As Adobe Tech Support say: Technical Solutions Database System Error When Clicking a Button in Acrobat Reader or Acrobat Exchange ISSUE When you click a form field button in Adobe Acrobat Reader 3.0x or Acrobat Exchange 3.0x, a system error occurs (e.g., Type 1, Type 2, Type 11 error, "Acroex32.exe caused an invalid page fault or illegal operation."). DETAIL The form field button should execute the command File > Close or File > Quit in response to a Mouse Down action (i.e., when you click the mouse button but before you release it). SOLUTION Edit the button's Field Properties so it responds to a different action: 1. Restart the computer. 2. Open the PDF file in Acrobat Exchange 3.0x. 3. Click the Form tool, then double-click the button. The Field Properties dialog box will appear. 4. Click the Actions tab. 5. Select Mouse Up, Mouse Enter, or Mouse Exit from the When This Happens scroll box. 6. Click OK and save the file. Additional Information Acrobat Reader and Acrobat Exchange cannot simultaneously respond to a Mouse Down action and either close a file or quit. If you configure a button to execute the "File > Close" or "File > Quit" command in response to a Mouse Down action, the system will return an error when you click the button. This may explain some other posts commenting that the Form fields are not as reliable as the Link button and to use Links with buttons created in the source App. Hope this is what you need to get up and running ! Dean Laffan Real World Productions _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 2:08:51-GMT,1531;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06586 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:08:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32688; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:52:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:50:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA32530; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:50:03 -0500 Message-ID: <4EC96B864C1CD211BBC500805FE6FDBCFE72@mail.tcusa.com> From: "Weymann, Mark L (TC)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Distiller for SGI Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:49:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have a Silicon Graphics Origin 2000 running IRIX 6.4. Is there a Distiller for this system? I thought I heard of a PDF Generator, but am unsure. Thanks _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 2:09:16-GMT,1997;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06590 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:09:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32611; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:50:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:48:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA32431; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:48:01 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980715214025.0080a810@mail.vcity.net> X-Sender: Daniel@mail.vcity.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:40:25 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: danielari@dionis.com (Dionis) Subject: [PDF] pdf from coreldraw 8 (cropping a PDF) In-Reply-To: <199807151833.NAA10900@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Corbin, Cropping a PDF and saving it does not remove any information, and that is why it does not get smaller. In fact, if you un-crop the pages, you will see that all of the original information returns from being hidden. Cropping and re-distilling might make it smaller, but I don't know for sure. As a side note, "save as" can remove certain extraneous information in certain situations, but geometric objects that are cropped until they no longer display are not considered extraneous. Regards, Daniel-Ari Feinberg Dionis _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 2:48:04-GMT,1336;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09986 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:48:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01555; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:32:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:30:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01453; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:30:13 -0500 From: DONNCOMP@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 22:29:50 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: [PDF] Reader Downloads Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 7:44:44-GMT,1517;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA15944 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:44:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11185; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:29:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:26:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11079; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:26:13 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Search/Indexes In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:40:59 CDT." <35AD3E08.4D211BDC@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:25:55 +0100 Message-ID: <29124.900573955@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:40:59 CDT, "Robert E. Moran" wrote: > Check out Muscat. They have a terrific environment. Their URL is http://www.muscat.co.uk/ Chris _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 13:10:20-GMT,3201;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21686 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:10:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21876; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:54:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:51:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21707; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:51:09 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:51:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Sid Spungen 301-827-7297 FAX 301-594-0167 Subject: [PDF] Linking from HTML, PDF Links Don't Work To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:51:33 -0400 (EDT) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: E1621ILY1WSXO A1-type: MAIL Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com When linking from an HTML document to a PDF document, the PDF links don't work properly. What happens is that if you try to follow a PDF link, it links to the first page of the document rather than the page the PDF link is set up for. The PDF links do work properly when in Acrobat Exchange or Acrobat Reader unemcumbered by Internet Explorer, i.e., when they are used standalone. The standard Internet Explorer browser in my unit is version 3.01a. I happen to have the browser on my PC set up to invoke Acrobat Exchange 3.0, but I have no reason to believe that the results would be any different with Acrobat reader running under Explorer. I read in the Adobe documentation that the tag will enable a link to a PDF documents, and that the PDF links will work (page 266 from the Acrobat Exchange 3.0 Online Guide). However, no documentation is given on how to use the tag. There is mention on the page of an tag for use with Netscape, and examples of using the tag are given. My HTML book* mentions under the heading of Inclusion Elements as a proprietary element for including an arbitrary object. However, it does not does not give any further information on it. I'm sure there must be a way to get the PDF links to work, and I would appreciate any help. * HTML Sourcebook Third Edition, A Complete Guide to HTML 3.2 and HTML extensions, Ian S. Graham, John Wiley & Sons, Inc., 1997 Sid Spungen Internet Address: SPUNGEN@CDER.FDA.GOV Phone Number: (301)827-7297 Mail Address: Sid Spungen Food and Drug Administration HFD-336 7520 Standish Place Rockville, MD 20855 Room 200 _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 14:37:13-GMT,2280;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23392 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:37:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26035; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:22:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:19:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25876; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:19:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 19:52:28 -0500 (GMT) From: Satyanarayan X-Sender: usatra01@obelix To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Bookmark Search Plug-In for Acrobat Reader. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello, Good Morning, We are looking for "Bookmark Search" Plug-In for Acrobat Reader. Is there one? Can any of the Plug-In developers develop this? We have large PDF files with around 500-1000 Bookmarks and would like to have a Plug-In using which one could search for a particular word in the Bookmarks window. Is there any alternate solution?? Thanks in advance for any help. Satyanarayan --------------------------------------- | Satyanarayan R. Bindingnavale | | Senior Manager Business Development,| | Vetri Systems Inc., | | 2690 Crooks Road, Suite 305 | | Troy, Michigan 48084 | | ___________________________________ | | E-mail: satya@vetri.com | | Web site:www.vetri.com | | Tel off: 810 362-1777 | | Fax off: 810 362-1779 | --------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 14:46:53-GMT,2380;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23680 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:46:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26723; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:35:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:33:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26583; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:33:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:06:18 -0500 (GMT) From: Satyanarayan X-Sender: usatra01@obelix To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Distilling Image+text files?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello, I am using the Import Plug-In and importing 300 DPI TIFF Images, and then using the Capture Plug-In in Exchange 3.01 to covert the Image PDF file to Image+Text PDF file, with Down-Sampling selected. When I distill the Image+text PDF file by printing to a postscript printer, I loose the text information and the resulting file is a Image only PDF file. Is there any process by which I can distill the Image+text PDF file to 72 DPI and still retain the Text Information?? Thanks in advance Satyanarayan --------------------------------------- | Satyanarayan R. Bindingnavale | | Senior Manager Business Development,| | Vetri Systems Inc., | | 2690 Crooks Road, Suite 305 | | Troy, Michigan 48084 | | ___________________________________ | | E-mail: satya@vetri.com | | Web site:www.vetri.com | | Tel off: 810 362-1777 | | Fax off: 810 362-1779 | --------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 15:40:09-GMT,2657;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24980 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:40:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29361; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:28:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:26:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29225; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:26:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199807161526.IAA25717@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Location: San Jose (ISAACS_1) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:26:11 -0700 To: Benzi Schreiber From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] RE: smoothing text Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <01BDB0A1.FC8D8C00.bschreiber@olivr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Take a look at http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/webtype/details.html for a description of Adobe WebType. Microsoft has posted some TrueType faces on its web pages that similarly work well for display usage. - Dov At 7/16/98 12:10 AM , Benzi Schreiber wrote: >Dov - > >Which "very fine typefaces" are you referring to? > >Benzi > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dov Isaacs [SMTP:isaacs@Adobe.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, 15 July, 1998 7:39 PM >To: Benzi Schreiber >Cc: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Subject: Re: smoothing text > >Benzi, > >The issue is more complex than just the type size and magnification. >Certain type faces display better on lower resolution devices. >Both Microsoft and Adobe have put out some very fine typefaces for >"Web" use. What that really means is that these faces don't look all >that bad and retain their style reasonably well on lower resolution >and magnification devices. > > - Dov > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 15:44:38-GMT,3165;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25084 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:44:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29598; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:32:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:30:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29464; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:30:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199807161526.IAA25717@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Location: San Jose (ISAACS_1) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:26:11 -0700 Old-To: Benzi Schreiber From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] RE: smoothing text Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <01BDB0A1.FC8D8C00.bschreiber@olivr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Take a look at http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/webtype/details.html for a description of Adobe WebType. Microsoft has posted some TrueType faces on its web pages that similarly work well for display usage. - Dov At 7/16/98 12:10 AM , Benzi Schreiber wrote: >Dov - > >Which "very fine typefaces" are you referring to? > >Benzi > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dov Isaacs [SMTP:isaacs@Adobe.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, 15 July, 1998 7:39 PM >To: Benzi Schreiber >Cc: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Subject: Re: smoothing text > >Benzi, > >The issue is more complex than just the type size and magnification. >Certain type faces display better on lower resolution devices. >Both Microsoft and Adobe have put out some very fine typefaces for >"Web" use. What that really means is that these faces don't look all >that bad and retain their style reasonably well on lower resolution >and magnification devices. > > - Dov > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 15:44:44-GMT,3326;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25089 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:44:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29226; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:26:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:23:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29075; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:23:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Covering the Taskbar Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:23:18 -0400 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We have received several reports from customers about Acrobat Reader covering the Windows 95 (and Windows NT 4.0) taskbar. If "Auto hide" is not checked, then the display initially covers the taskbar when a PDF file is opened. You can click the maximize icon on the title bar to restore the view, but users find doing that a nuisance. This happens both for Acrobat Exchange and Acrobat Reader. If we set "MaxApp=1" in the [AdobeViewer] section of the INI file, then the display works properly once. Then the viewer sets this parameter back to 0. I tried searching for this occurrence on the Adobe Web site. In a reference to another Adobe product, there is the statement that "Adobe Acrobat Reader overrides the Always on top" parameter. I cannot find any other reference, and I do not understand why the program would do this. We are probably experiencing this as a result of trying to address some other problems. If there are better solutions for those problems that what we have come up with, then perhaps this problem will also be solved. In order to display the Title field of the document in the title field of the Window, we found that we have to set the Open option "Resize Window To Initial Page" in each PDF file. This worked, except that then the window would move a little bit more toward the northwest each time a new file was opened. Eventually the title bar would move off the screen. In order to keep the window in view, we then set the Open option "Center Window On Screen" in each PDF file. This fixed everything except for the problem we are now experiencing. We do not want to give up the feature of displaying the document title in the title bar of each window. If Acrobat were not doing all this resizing and centering, then at worst the user should have to reposition the window once. Because of these options it is not even possible to keep the window maximized. Thanks for your help. Tommy Teague _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 16:05:06-GMT,2405;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25752 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:05:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30522; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:50:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:48:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30340; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:48:24 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distilling Image+text files?? Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:37:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bdb0d0$aa531660$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > When I distill the Image+text PDF file by printing to a postscript > printer, I loose the text information and the resulting file is > a Image only PDF file. > I don't think that there is a way to do this on redistilling. When you make PostScript from PDF for printing or distilling only the visual elements are retained. (In fact, the way hidden text is held in a PDF file cannot be translated to PostScript - it has no equivalent). Does the subsample option in Distiller preferences have no effect on Image+Text? In fact, sampling Image+hidden Text down to 72 dpi sounds rather odd, because the text will be illegible - there seems no reason at all not to use the normal format. However, if this is what you really need to do, watch the PDF-Anc list for our subsampling plug-in. Aandi Inston Quite Software _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 16:19:49-GMT,1916;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26130 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:19:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31190; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:04:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:02:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31046; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:02:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980716115945.00e1c040@mail.hannah.com> X-Sender: frank@mail.hannah.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:59:45 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Frank Atkinson Subject: [PDF] Filling the document fields in a batch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We have need to populate the fields in a large number of pdf documents in a batch mode. Is there a utilty that does this ?? We will be getiing a large number of pdf files and we need to put information in a standard format in the title, subject, etc of the pdf document. Its too many to do by hand... Frank Atkinson HANNAH Online Hannah News Service/Rotunda Inc. Ohio Capitol Connection 16 E. Broad St. Columbus, Ohio 43215 Ph 614-228-3113 Fx: 614-228-3113 mailto:frank@hannah.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 16:24:36-GMT,2620;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26235 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:24:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31584; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:12:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:10:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31461; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:10:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Filling the document fields in a batch Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:13:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com You want InfoData's Compose (InfoFill Tool), or the EXCELLENT new PDFWorkshop, by RTS. Both of these good folks will be MORE than happy to contact you off-line, I'm sure. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Atkinson [mailto:frank@hannah.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 1998 9:00 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Filling the document fields in a batch > > > > We have need to populate the fields in a large number of pdf > documents > in a batch mode. Is there a utilty that does this ?? > > We will be getiing a large number of pdf files and we need to > put information > in a standard format in the title, subject, etc of the pdf > document. Its > too many to do by hand... > > > > Frank Atkinson HANNAH Online > Hannah News Service/Rotunda Inc. Ohio Capitol Connection > 16 E. Broad St. Columbus, Ohio 43215 > Ph 614-228-3113 Fx: 614-228-3113 > mailto:frank@hannah.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 16:27:46-GMT,2311;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26329 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:27:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31820; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:16:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:14:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31674; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:14:04 -0500 Message-ID: <001c01bdb0d4$8f4a2bc0$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Filling the document fields in a batch Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:12:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Frank: check out compose by Ambia... > >We have need to populate the fields in a large number of pdf documents >in a batch mode. Is there a utilty that does this ?? > >We will be getiing a large number of pdf files and we need to put information >in a standard format in the title, subject, etc of the pdf document. Its >too many to do by hand... > > > >Frank Atkinson HANNAH Online >Hannah News Service/Rotunda Inc. Ohio Capitol Connection >16 E. Broad St. Columbus, Ohio 43215 >Ph 614-228-3113 Fx: 614-228-3113 >mailto:frank@hannah.com > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 16:32:30-GMT,2832;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26465 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:32:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32171; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:22:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:20:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32039; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:20:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:21:19 -0400 From: Janet Loprano Subject: RE: [PDF] Distilling Image+text files?? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <85256643.00598AEC.00@ctc2.ap.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com What happens if you export to PS? At the AP, we do this occasionally and have never had this problem. Janet Loprano Senior Applications Specialist The Associated Press From: Aandi Inston on 07/16/98 03:37 PM GMT Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Janet Loprano/TheAP) Subject: RE: [PDF] Distilling Image+text files?? > When I distill the Image+text PDF file by printing to a postscript > printer, I loose the text information and the resulting file is > a Image only PDF file. > I don't think that there is a way to do this on redistilling. When you make PostScript from PDF for printing or distilling only the visual elements are retained. (In fact, the way hidden text is held in a PDF file cannot be translated to PostScript - it has no equivalent). Does the subsample option in Distiller preferences have no effect on Image+Text? In fact, sampling Image+hidden Text down to 72 dpi sounds rather odd, because the text will be illegible - there seems no reason at all not to use the normal format. However, if this is what you really need to do, watch the PDF-Anc list for our subsampling plug-in. Aandi Inston Quite Software _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 20:08:20-GMT,2975;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01767 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09202; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:52:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:45:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08710; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:45:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980716144337.00758ccc@mail-345> X-Sender: mzahorik@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:43:37 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mike Zahorik Subject: [PDF] Reader Downloads, Part 2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have done a bit more investigation and tried to get a more accurate number for Reader Downloads. Unfortunately, if a precise answer is important (which the several of you are demanding), then it will also be somewhat incomplete. For the months of February-June, 1998 there were 9,923,070 Reader downloads from the Adobe web site. The data prior to February is not readily available, but was estimated to be 20 million at the end of 1997. I will continue to investigate, but this is the best I could come up with for now. Adobe has been averaging approximately 450,000 downloads a month since January of 1997. The number tends to climb during tax season. It's impossible to track statistics on the number of sites that mirror the Reader download (PDFZONE being one), companies that automatically install it on their corporate desktop, and the number of CDs that have been distributed with the reader. Nonetheless, at this point 30 million is a fairly conservative number. Not as exact as some would like but it does give an order of magnitude that's significant. Also significant was the fact relayed in the earlier message: more people are paying for Acrobat than ever and are buiilding real world solutions around the Acrobat product family and the rapidly growing 3rd party solutions available. Hope this helps for now. I'll update as I get better info. Mike Zahorik ..................................... Mike Zahorik Territory Account Manager Adobe Systems, Inc. 6133 N. River Road, Suite 740 Rosemont IL 60018 Phone 847 384 7316 Fax 847 384 7350 mzahorik@adobe.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 21:53:11-GMT,2236;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04477 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:53:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14511; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:39:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:36:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14365; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:36:37 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms Fill-In Plug-in Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:33:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01bdb101$cba1bca0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <85256643.0071C7BD.00@keybank.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > When I installed and reinstalled the Forms Update 3.5 Fill-In > plug-in (from > the Adobe CD) on two PCs with Windows 95, the Forms button on > the Exchange > toolbar did not appear. I rebooted the PCs, opened Exchange, > opened a PDF > form, and yet the button did not appear. Also I checked under > Help|Plugins > to see if Forms 3.5 is listed and it is. Has anyone else > experienced this > problem? This is normal. The forms fill-in plug-in just lets you fill in forms, so no forms button is required. It is mainly intended for Acrobat Reader, though it works with Exchange in the same way. What you probably wanted instead was the forms Author. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 21:11:59-GMT,1804;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03381 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:11:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12417; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:55:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:51:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12195; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:51:46 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256643.0071C7BD.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:48:51 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Forms Fill-In Plug-in Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com When I installed and reinstalled the Forms Update 3.5 Fill-In plug-in (from the Adobe CD) on two PCs with Windows 95, the Forms button on the Exchange toolbar did not appear. I rebooted the PCs, opened Exchange, opened a PDF form, and yet the button did not appear. Also I checked under Help|Plugins to see if Forms 3.5 is listed and it is. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Initially I did the same install on my own PC from the same CD and it worked. --Karen _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 16-Jul-1998 21:53:11-GMT,2236;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04477 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:53:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14511; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:39:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:36:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14365; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:36:37 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms Fill-In Plug-in Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:33:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01bdb101$cba1bca0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <85256643.0071C7BD.00@keybank.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > When I installed and reinstalled the Forms Update 3.5 Fill-In > plug-in (from > the Adobe CD) on two PCs with Windows 95, the Forms button on > the Exchange > toolbar did not appear. I rebooted the PCs, opened Exchange, > opened a PDF > form, and yet the button did not appear. Also I checked under > Help|Plugins > to see if Forms 3.5 is listed and it is. Has anyone else > experienced this > problem? This is normal. The forms fill-in plug-in just lets you fill in forms, so no forms button is required. It is mainly intended for Acrobat Reader, though it works with Exchange in the same way. What you probably wanted instead was the forms Author. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 2:03:55-GMT,1482;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09374 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:03:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22915; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:50:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:46:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA22790; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:46:09 -0500 From: flex@interport.net X-Sender: flex@pop.interport.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002501bd9631$e46c2b20$a649accf@mcglinn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:40:16 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: helping you helps me Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com first please do not try to do anything to your grd drive. it is perfect and so are you. your friend flex _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 2:46:09-GMT,8492;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10168 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:46:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24464; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:32:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:30:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24378; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:30:11 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDB16D.9A52A120@min.minmet.com.au> From: Min Chen To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Linking from HTML, PDF Links Don't Work Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:28:07 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDB16D.9A5BC8E0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDB16D.9A5BC8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you want go to a specific page of a document, you should use Named = Destination, but it only works with Netscape not Internet Explorer. = Don't know if Adobe has fixed this problem or not. -----Original Message----- From: Sid Spungen 301-827-7297 FAX 301-594-0167 = [SMTP:SPUNGEN@cder.fda.gov] Sent: Thursday, 16 July 1998 20:52 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Linking from HTML, PDF Links Don't Work When linking from an HTML document to a PDF document, the PDF links don't work properly. What happens is that if you try to follow a PDF link, it links to the first page of the document rather than the page the PDF link is set up for. The PDF links do work properly when in Acrobat Exchange or Acrobat Reader unemcumbered by Internet Explorer, i.e., when they are used standalone. The standard Internet Explorer browser in my unit is version 3.01a. I happen to have the browser on my PC set up to invoke Acrobat Exchange 3.0, but I have no reason to believe that the results would be any different with Acrobat reader running under Explorer.=20 I read in the Adobe documentation that the tag will enable a link to a PDF documents, and that the PDF links will work (page 266 from the Acrobat Exchange 3.0 Online Guide). However, no documentation is given on how to use the tag. There is mention on the page of an tag for use with Netscape, and examples of using the tag are given. My HTML book* mentions under the heading of Inclusion Elements as a proprietary element for including an arbitrary object. However, it does not does not give any further information on it. I'm sure there must be a way to get the PDF links to work, and I would appreciate any help. * HTML Sourcebook Third Edition, A Complete Guide to HTML 3.2 and HTML extensions, Ian S. Graham, John Wiley & Sons, Inc., 1997 Sid Spungen =09 Internet Address: SPUNGEN@CDER.FDA.GOV Phone Number: (301)827-7297 Mail Address: Sid Spungen Food and Drug Administration HFD-336 =09 7520 Standish Place Rockville, MD 20855 Room 200 _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDB16D.9A5BC8E0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+Ig0CAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAsAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAAeAAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAA AB4AAzABAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEw 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<199807170752.IAA18926@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> From: "Peter Mathews" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: Titles heading North West Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:43:31 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Tommy This is a very annoying bug, which means you have to retreive your documents every few minutes. We wrote a plug-in to display title without having to set "Resize Documents to Centre of Page" (or whatever), which gets completely round the problem. We didn't anticipate selling it (as we use it in our bureau), but if anyone else has the problem, we might bag it an box it. Can you let me know if this product will be of use? Peter. From: "Teague, Tommy K" Subject: [PDF] Covering the Taskbar --snip-- We have received several reports from customers about Acrobat Reader covering the Windows 95 (and Windows NT 4.0) taskbar. If "Auto hide" is not checked, then the display initially covers the taskbar when a PDF file is opened. You can click the maximize icon on the title bar to restore the view, but users find doing that a nuisance. This happens both for Acrobat Exchange and Acrobat Reader. --and-- We do not want to give up the feature of displaying the document title in the title bar of each window. If Acrobat were not doing all this resizing and centering, then at worst the user should have to reposition the window once. Because of these options it is not even possible to keep the window maximized. --snip-- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 8:20:19-GMT,1721;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16576 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:20:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01653; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:11:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:09:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01545; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:09:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDB162.85A16460@ppp214.enterprise.net> From: Internet PC To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] ART file format, is it the same as PDF? Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:08:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA01542 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sometimes I receive images in PDF format with the filetype of "ART" (created I beleve using Illustrator). This seems to work with Acrobat reader, but is there a subtle difference between "ART" and "PDF"? Thanks for your help (hopefully) Darryl Lucas _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 8:31:58-GMT,1679;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16959 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01490; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:07:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:05:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01418; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:05:13 -0500 Message-ID: <35AF045E.2B13@tim.it> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:59:26 +0200 From: Lucia Audino X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Link with Acrobat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have more documents (word, excel and powerpoint) created with the links (to the same document or to a new URL or to a new pdf document); when I convert this documents in PDF, with Distiller Assistant or with PDFWriter, the links are disappeared. Why? Distiller Assistant or PDFWriter maintain the links? Thank you Lucia _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 9:19:01-GMT,2359;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17819 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:18:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03304; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 04:05:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 04:02:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03168; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 04:02:54 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Link with Acrobat Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:06:05 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01bdb162$20fb66a0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <35AF045E.2B13@tim.it> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > I have more documents (word, excel and powerpoint) created with the > links (to the same document or to a new URL or to a new pdf document); > when I convert this documents in PDF, with Distiller Assistant or with > PDFWriter, the links are disappeared. Why? Distiller Assistant or > PDFWriter maintain the links? Distiller Assistant & PDFwriter do not this automatically. That is why we developed Local Render - an evaluation copy of which is available on our web site: www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 9:27:00-GMT,2178;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17997 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:26:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03616; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 04:16:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 04:14:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03510; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 04:13:59 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Link with Acrobat In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:06:05 BST." <001a01bdb162$20fb66a0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:13:44 +0100 Message-ID: <1760.900666824@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:06:05 BST, "David Cornwell" wrote: > > I have more documents (word, excel and powerpoint) created with the > > links (to the same document or to a new URL or to a new pdf document); > > when I convert this documents in PDF, with Distiller Assistant or with > > PDFWriter, the links are disappeared. Why? Distiller Assistant or > > PDFWriter maintain the links? > > Distiller Assistant & PDFwriter do not this automatically. That is why we > developed Local Render - an evaluation copy of which is available on our > web site: www.docctrl.com Isn't it "just" a question of getting Word/Excel/PowerPoint to emit the appropriate PDFmarks when printing hyperlinks? It's probably easier to do this in Word than the other two, because you can hack the PDFmaker (?) source. Chris _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 11:24:20-GMT,2501;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19940 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 05:24:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06627; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 06:08:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 06:05:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06547; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 06:05:43 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:53:08 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Filling the document fields in a batch In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980716115945.00e1c040@mail.hannah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com In message <3.0.3.32.19980716115945.00e1c040@mail.hannah.com>, Frank Atkinson wrote: > >We have need to populate the fields in a large number of pdf documents >in a batch mode. Is there a utilty that does this ?? > >We will be getiing a large number of pdf files and we need to put information >in a standard format in the title, subject, etc of the pdf document. Its >too many to do by hand... Version 2.0 of our Options product will do this for standard and custom information fields. This is due for release at the end of July. For details of the existing product see our web site. Regards David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 11:58:06-GMT,2911;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20520 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 05:58:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07939; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 06:45:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 06:43:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07834; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 06:43:36 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Link with Acrobat Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:46:48 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01bdb178$94e269e0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <1760.900666824@isode.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > > I have more documents (word, excel and powerpoint) created with the > > > links (to the same document or to a new URL or to a new pdf document); > > > when I convert this documents in PDF, with Distiller Assistant or with > > > PDFWriter, the links are disappeared. Why? Distiller Assistant or > > > PDFWriter maintain the links? > > > > Distiller Assistant & PDFwriter do not this automatically. That > is why we > > developed Local Render - an evaluation copy of which is > available on our > > web site: www.docctrl.com > > Isn't it "just" a question of getting Word/Excel/PowerPoint to emit the > appropriate PDFmarks when printing hyperlinks? It's probably easier to > do this in Word than the other two, because you can hack the PDFmaker > (?) source. Two comments: (i) PDFmark doesn't work with PDFwriter; (ii) You statement is, of course, correct. However, please bear in mind that even relatively sophisticated PC users are decidedly uncomfortable "hacking the source" and may not have the time to learn how to do this. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 12:37:04-GMT,2918;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21279 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 06:37:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09268; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:21:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:18:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09148; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:18:57 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Link with Acrobat In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:46:48 BST." <001c01bdb178$94e269e0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:18:41 +0100 Message-ID: <2981.900677921@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:46:48 BST, "David Cornwell" wrote: > > > > I have more documents (word, excel and powerpoint) created with the > > > > links (to the same document or to a new URL or to a new pdf document); > > > > when I convert this documents in PDF, with Distiller Assistant or with > > > > PDFWriter, the links are disappeared. Why? Distiller Assistant or > > > > PDFWriter maintain the links? > > > > > > Distiller Assistant & PDFwriter do not this automatically. That > > is why we > > > developed Local Render - an evaluation copy of which is > > available on our > > > web site: www.docctrl.com > > > > Isn't it "just" a question of getting Word/Excel/PowerPoint to emit the > > appropriate PDFmarks when printing hyperlinks? It's probably easier to > > do this in Word than the other two, because you can hack the PDFmaker > > (?) source. > > Two comments: > > (i) PDFmark doesn't work with PDFwriter; True; I skipped that bit of the sentence once I read the word "Distiller".. > (ii) You statement is, of course, correct. However, please bear in mind that > even relatively sophisticated PC users are decidedly uncomfortable "hacking > the source" and may not have the time to learn how to do this. My (well, Adobe's :-) solution saves them money, yours saves them time. There's obviously room for both. Actually the page describing PDFmaker: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4d9e.htm suggests it creates proper hyperlinks anyway, so there is no need to hack the source like I thought. Chris _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 12:55:47-GMT,1657;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21621 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 06:55:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10288; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:45:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:42:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10134; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:42:28 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F641A0E33@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Filling the document fields in a batch Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:39:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Ambia/InfoDataSystems' Compose 3.31 product will do this for you in batch mode. It has several other useful tools as well, but specifically it will do exactly what you request. Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 14:04:15-GMT,1861;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23032 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:04:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13206; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:47:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:44:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13032; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:43:59 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256644.004A7BA5.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:41:10 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms Fill-In Plug-in Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >This is normal. The forms fill-in plug-in just lets you fill >in forms, so no forms button is required. It is mainly intended >for Acrobat Reader, though it works with Exchange in the same >way. >What you probably wanted instead was the forms Author. My mistake. I intended to write Author plugin. With the Author plug-in the Forms tool should appear between the Link and Touch Up Text buttons on the Exchange toolbar. Again, the installation worked fine on my PC, but did not work on two others in my department. --Karen _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 14:22:24-GMT,1794;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23481 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:22:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14228; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:06:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:03:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14076; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:03:45 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F641A0E3A@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms Fill-In Plug-in Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:00:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Try verifying the sequence of the installations. I found that I had trouble with it, but I can't remember which one I installed first. Anyhow, just install the Author first, then the Filler. If it doesn't work - reverse it. I believe that will fix it. And, please don't call me Einstein or anything if it doesn't work, its just a suggestion. Kevin Farrell Lucent mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 14:25:20-GMT,2220;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23538 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:25:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14411; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:10:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:08:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14312; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:08:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jason Creak To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms Fill-In Plug-in Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:07:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi there, I'm new here so apologies if this has been discussed before..... We have been trying to create dynamic multi-page forms for delivery from a web server but can't seem to achieve it: (1) FDF does not seem to work reliably across multiple browsers, in particular with most versions of IE4. The FDF seems to come back down to the browser, but nothing updates in the form .... (2) Our alternative approach was to use embedded templates and show/hide them based on a JavaScript. However the functions getNthTemplate and spawnPageFromTemplate dont seem to work in Acrobat Reader (with the Reader plug-in) unlike in Exchange itself. Any comments? Has anyone else noticed these problems? Cheers, Jason Creak ------ Engineering Development IS Solutions Plc +44 (0)1932 893333 http://www.issolutions.co.uk _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 14:41:45-GMT,2841;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23893 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:41:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14807; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:17:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:15:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14695; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:15:15 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDB16C.039DCEE0.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for July-16-98 [V2 #270] Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:16:47 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi -- I'm having a couple of problems - or I could say, "disappointments" - with Acrobat Capture. One, after successfully processing a number of TIF files (300dpi), the program will stop with either the message (from Capture) "problem generating output" or the message (from Windows) "has performed an illegal operation", which of course puts any law-abiding citizen on the defensive, in addition to the frustration of finding an overnight job crashed. Fine. Viewing and checking the TIF that was being processed at the moment of the crash reveals nothing - it appears perfectly healthy and clear, with the correct resolution INSIDE the supported range of 200-600. It turns out, by the way that *anything* over 200 is ok with Capture. Any ideas? A second problem, and perhaps just a limitation of Capture, occurs when starting up Capture with an input folder that has more than a couple of hundred files in it. Capture Server won't respond at all. This happens whether or not the folder is watched. A workaround is to make the folder watched with only a few files in it, and after processing begins, dump the rest in. Does anyone know why Capture is paralyzed by processing a large group of files at startup? In a related question, what is the maximum number of pages Capture will stuff into a file using the "collate by common prefix" option? Thanks, Mark Mark Stephenson SoftWare Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 15:38:24-GMT,1918;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25231 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:38:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17825; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:19:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:15:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17624; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:15:48 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: HQNOTES From: "Michael W Zalud" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <86256644.00532F5B.00@spiderwort.hallmark.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:14:24 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Problem with Printing Adobe PDF file to Epson Stylus Color 800 Printer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have created several Adobe PDF files where I want to print a selected range of pages using Acrobat Reader 3.0.1. After I select the page range in the Epson Stylus Print dialog box and start the print process, only the first page of the print range prints properly. The other pages come out with garbage or nothing at all. I am using Windows NT 4.0 with an IBM thinkpad 380XD portable. I have used the same PDF file and printed to an HP DESKJET 690C with no problem. Any suggestions? Thanks. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 16:03:28-GMT,2500;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25815 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:03:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19070; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:44:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:42:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18953; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:42:09 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256644.0056DC55.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:49:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem with Printing Adobe PDF file to Epson Stylus Color 800 Printer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Check the fonts available/and the font substitution table in the Thinkpad 380XD. Maybe... SueG "Michael W Zalud" on 07/17/98 08:14:24 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Problem with Printing Adobe PDF file to Epson Stylus Color 800 Printer I have created several Adobe PDF files where I want to print a selected range of pages using Acrobat Reader 3.0.1. After I select the page range in the Epson Stylus Print dialog box and start the print process, only the first page of the print range prints properly. The other pages come out with garbage or nothing at all. I am using Windows NT 4.0 with an IBM thinkpad 380XD portable. I have used the same PDF file and printed to an HP DESKJET 690C with no problem. Any suggestions? Thanks. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 16:14:40-GMT,2513;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26101 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:14:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19282; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:48:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:46:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19159; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:46:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980717084843.007fccb0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:48:43 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem with Printing Adobe PDF file to Epson Stylus Color 800 Printer In-Reply-To: <86256644.00532F5B.00@spiderwort.hallmark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com If you don't have the Adobe's NT4.0 printer driver, you should download it from their web site. I don't know the exact address, but it shouldn't be too hard to find. At 10:14 AM 7/17/98 -0500, you wrote: >I have created several Adobe PDF files where I want to print a selected >range of pages using Acrobat Reader 3.0.1. After I select the page range >in the Epson Stylus Print dialog box and start the print process, only the >first page of the print range prints properly. The other pages come out >with garbage or nothing at all. I am using Windows NT 4.0 with an IBM >thinkpad 380XD portable. I have used the same PDF file and printed to an >HP DESKJET 690C with no problem. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 16:50:09-GMT,2330;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27015 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:50:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21391; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:29:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:25:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21170; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:24:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Problem with Printing Adobe PDF file to Epson Stylus Color 800 Printer Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:23:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdb19f$6932df60$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <86256644.00532F5B.00@spiderwort.hallmark.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com This seems to be a bug in Epson's NT driver, because it does not affect other printers or their '95 driver. Apparently there is also a suitable driver on the Windows NT CDROM (from Microsoft) which, while it doesn't have as much colour control, doesn't have this problem either. Aandi > I have created several Adobe PDF files where I want to print > a selected > range of pages using Acrobat Reader 3.0.1. After I select > the page range > in the Epson Stylus Print dialog box and start the print > process, only the > first page of the print range prints properly. The other > pages come out > with garbage or nothing at all. I am using Windows NT 4.0 with an IBM > thinkpad 380XD portable. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 17:36:51-GMT,3592;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28261 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:36:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23753; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:13:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:11:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23558; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:11:26 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27280627@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:01:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDB1A4.8BCBA958" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDB1A4.8BCBA958 Content-Type: text/plain Sorry to ask this question again, but I'm still not sure which way to go. We've just finished converting our entire tech manual library to PDF and are in the process of organizing our Extranet website to accomodate them. The missing piece is a search engine. We're running IIS 3.0. The box uses NT's security to secure file areas. Users have access to files based on NT permissions. Users get authenticated on login. I need a way to index the site, but also to filter hits based on login. I just priced Verity's Search 97, and they want big $ for it. Has anyone used InfoSeeks's Ultraseek Server? what about Cascade's Mediasphere? Also, anyone succesfully implement the free Ifitler with MS Index server? Also, Verity makes an interesting product that puts your website on a CD with a scaled down version of the search engine embedded. We are publishing CDs too, and have been building an alternative PDF front-end for it. It would be much easier to just port over the website to the CD. Verity's prices are outrageous for a mid-sized niche company like ours, so I was wondering if others are making a similar product at a more reasonabl price tag. Kenny Schiff Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com <> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDB1A4.8BCBA958 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Kenny Schiff (E-mail).vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Kenny Schiff (E-mail).vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Schiff;Kenny FN:Kenny Schiff (E-mail) ORG:Rauland-Borg Corporation TITLE:Director of Corporate Communications TEL;WORK;VOICE:(847) 679-0900 x395 ADR;WORK:;;3450 West Oakton;Skokie;IL;60076;United States of America LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:3450 West Oakton=0D=0ASkokie, IL 60076=0D=0AUnited States of America EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:kenny.schiff@rauland.com REV:19980716T213912Z END:VCARD ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDB1A4.8BCBA958-- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 20:29:33-GMT,2751;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02765 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:29:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31091; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:03:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:56:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30741; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:56:05 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F641A0E3A@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:27:03 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms Fill-In Plug-in Cc: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Kevin (and others), no name calling needed . It is possible to use the Filler plug-in with Exchange. It is only possible to use the Author plug-in with Exchange. BUT: It is not possible to use the Filler and the Author plug-in at the same time with Exchange. The Author plug-in contains all functionality of the Filler plug-in. So, there is no need at all to think about the Filler plug-in for Exchange. When both plug-ins are used, problems will be guaranteed. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Try verifying the sequence of the installations. > >I found that I had trouble with it, but I can't remember which one I >installed first. > >Anyhow, just install the Author first, then the Filler. If it doesn't work - >reverse it. I believe that will fix it. > >And, please don't call me Einstein or anything if it doesn't work, its just >a suggestion. > >Kevin Farrell >Lucent >mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 22:22:23-GMT,2210;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05478 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:22:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03750; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:06:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:01:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03442; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:01:37 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms Fill-In Plug-in Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:54:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdb1ce$71703400$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <85256644.004A7BA5.00@keybank.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Check which plug-ins you are left with. You should have only AFILL32.API, not AFORM32.API. Aandi > >This is normal. The forms fill-in plug-in just lets you fill > >in forms, so no forms button is required. It is mainly intended > >for Acrobat Reader, though it works with Exchange in the same > >way. > >What you probably wanted instead was the forms Author. > > My mistake. I intended to write Author plugin. With the > Author plug-in the > Forms tool should appear between the Link and Touch Up Text > buttons on the > Exchange toolbar. Again, the installation worked fine on my > PC, but did not > work on two others in my department. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 23:27:54-GMT,3967;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06802 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06586; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:15:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:12:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06396; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:12:26 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27377B33@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" Old-To: "'Rick Melanson'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:56:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I'm looking at InfoSeek's Ultraserver: http://software.infoseek.com/products/ultraseek/ultratop.htm More pricey of course than the freebie, but I'm making the call that we need to do this. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Melanson [mailto:rmelanso@MICRION.COM] Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 12:58 PM To: Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com Subject: Fw: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs Excellent questions, I am sure the list will be able to help you out. Could you please share what you get with me. I am in a similar situation as you and sure could use the help. Thank you. Rick Melanson rmelanso@micrion.com -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, July 17, 1998 1:31 PM Subject: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs >Sorry to ask this question again, but I'm still not sure which way to >go. > >We've just finished converting our entire tech manual library to PDF and >are in the process of organizing our Extranet website to accomodate >them. The missing piece is a search engine. > >We're running IIS 3.0. > >The box uses NT's security to secure file areas. Users have access to >files based on NT permissions. Users get authenticated on login. > >I need a way to index the site, but also to filter hits based on login. > >I just priced Verity's Search 97, and they want big $ for it. Has anyone >used InfoSeeks's Ultraseek Server? what about Cascade's Mediasphere? >Also, anyone succesfully implement the free Ifitler with MS Index >server? > >Also, Verity makes an interesting product that puts your website on a CD >with a scaled down version of the search engine embedded. We are >publishing CDs too, and have been building an alternative PDF front-end >for it. It would be much easier to just port over the website to the CD. >Verity's prices are outrageous for a mid-sized niche company like ours, >so I was wondering if others are making a similar product at a more >reasonabl price tag. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 17-Jul-1998 23:27:55-GMT,3459;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06806 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:27:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06348; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:10:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:06:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06181; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:06:33 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27377B33@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'Rick Melanson'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:56:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I'm looking at InfoSeek's Ultraserver: http://software.infoseek.com/products/ultraseek/ultratop.htm More pricey of course than the freebie, but I'm making the call that we need to do this. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Melanson [mailto:rmelanso@MICRION.COM] Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 12:58 PM To: Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com Subject: Fw: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs Excellent questions, I am sure the list will be able to help you out. Could you please share what you get with me. I am in a similar situation as you and sure could use the help. Thank you. Rick Melanson rmelanso@micrion.com -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, July 17, 1998 1:31 PM Subject: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs >Sorry to ask this question again, but I'm still not sure which way to >go. > >We've just finished converting our entire tech manual library to PDF and >are in the process of organizing our Extranet website to accomodate >them. The missing piece is a search engine. > >We're running IIS 3.0. > >The box uses NT's security to secure file areas. Users have access to >files based on NT permissions. Users get authenticated on login. > >I need a way to index the site, but also to filter hits based on login. > >I just priced Verity's Search 97, and they want big $ for it. Has anyone >used InfoSeeks's Ultraseek Server? what about Cascade's Mediasphere? >Also, anyone succesfully implement the free Ifitler with MS Index >server? > >Also, Verity makes an interesting product that puts your website on a CD >with a scaled down version of the search engine embedded. We are >publishing CDs too, and have been building an alternative PDF front-end >for it. It would be much easier to just port over the website to the CD. >Verity's prices are outrageous for a mid-sized niche company like ours, >so I was wondering if others are making a similar product at a more >reasonabl price tag. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 18-Jul-1998 0:44:44-GMT,1993;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08180 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:44:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09018; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:30:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:26:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08844; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:26:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:29:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to PDF. The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed using Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. 4. Thanks guys! What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using Win NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. I found that this works rather well but... C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps ... what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? TIA Sam _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 18-Jul-1998 12:42:18-GMT,2455;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19968 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 06:42:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28677; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 06:41:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Jul 1998 06:36:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28480; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 06:36:32 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:31:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdb240$49b82d60$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to PDF. > The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed using > Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. 4. > Thanks guys! > > What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using Win > NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. > > I found that this works rather well but... > > C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps I'm puzzled as to how this can work, since copying a TIF file to a PS file doesn't make it PostScript. Still, if it does work, I won't knock it. > > ... what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the > background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. > Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? How about Distiller's watched folders? Sounds like exactly what you need. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 18-Jul-1998 19:00:43-GMT,2412;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26259 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:00:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09650; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:35:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:29:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09397; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:29:11 -0500 From: home@ryden.com X-Sender: rydenh@209.38.110.110 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BDB162.85A16460@ppp214.enterprise.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:36:36 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] ART file format, is it the same as PDF? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >Sometimes I receive images in PDF format with the filetype of "ART" >(created I beleve using Illustrator). This seems to work with Acrobat >reader, but is there a subtle difference between "ART" and "PDF"? > >Thanks for your help (hopefully) > >Darryl Lucas > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ Objects with the suffix .art are created in Adobe Streamline, which is used to smooth and export some graphics formats into eps (encapsulated postscript). We use this from images scanned into Photoshop and converted to paths for Illustrator. I personally do not use Steamline (maybe one or two times in the last three years) and the art is usually taken into Illustrator. My art department uses it daily. If you are interested I can have my art director give more information about Streamline files. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 18-Jul-1998 19:19:17-GMT,3115;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26584 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:19:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10532; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 14:02:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:58:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10389; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:58:21 -0500 From: "Duff Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:55:10 -0700 Message-ID: <000301bdb27d$969bf020$6701a8c0@laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sam: > I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to PDF. > The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed using > Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. 4. > Thanks guys! If your TIFFs are document images, ESPECIALLY if they're 300 dpi, your vendor did you a favor. Uncompressed (the way Photoshop likes 'em), your "couple thousand TIFFs" would likely consume most of a 4 gig hard drive! G4 compression is lossless and can reduce file size by a factor of 20... > What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using Win > NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. Are they single or multi-page TIFFs? If single, do you need them compiled into multi-page PDFs? Different solutions apply in different cases... > I found that this works rather well but... > > C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps Hmm. I doubt it, but.... whatever! I guess I've never tried that. > ... what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the > background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. > Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? Try RTSImport. It does most of what you want, I think. Or, if your conversion is a one-time event, AND if your documents are generally under 15 pages long, you could use Exchange's File-Import command. It's manual, but cheap (free), drop-dead easy, right there is Exchange, and it permits onvertion and collation at the same time. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 19-Jul-1998 6:14:20-GMT,3002;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA07478 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 00:14:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA30233; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 00:57:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Jul 1998 00:50:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA29947; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 00:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDB2E9.6183E5C0@pC19F3348.dip.t-online.de> To: "'PDF-List'" Cc: "'Jessup, Samuel'" , "'Huckert, Edgar'" Subject: AW: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 16:45:49 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0211682900-0001@t-online.de From: tm_consult@t-online.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_M=FCller?=) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sam, you can get a command line utility from a German developer for Windows systems that converts TIF to PDF. Contact Dr. Huckert via mailto:Huckert@compuserve.com Regards Tom + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Thomas Mueller Author and Consultant for Digital Communication P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html ---------- Von: Jessup, Samuel [SMTP:Samuel.Jessup@lfr.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 18. Juli 1998 02:30 An: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Betreff: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to PDF. The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed using Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. 4. Thanks guys! What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using Win NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. I found that this works rather well but... C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps ... what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? TIA Sam _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 19-Jul-1998 8:34:05-GMT,3626;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA09895 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 02:34:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01471; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 03:18:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Jul 1998 03:12:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01177; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 03:12:34 -0500 Message-ID: <35B1AACF.26E4@agora.stm.it> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:14:07 +0200 From: Ikonos X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF + javascript Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com PDF + javascript Kindest all, I have the following situation: A framed site using an horizontal frame on the top. We then have within the site a "Library" with a number of PDF docs which can be viewed (with byteserving) or downloaded. If the user chooses to view, the PDF document is displayed within the Netscape browser window, through the Reader 3.01 plug-in. As the user seees the PDF doc displayed, s(he) can still see the top navigation frame of the Web site in which there are all the main links- buttons to the Web site different areas. While on-line the user can then click and link back directly to any part of the Web site (having the PDF displayed and clicking on buton bar on HTML page), my production webmaster tells me this will not work in the oof-line CD-ROM version we are finishing in these next few days. He tells me that if he could handle a Javascript through the PDF he would be able to pull it off, but otherwise not. >From what I can understand, he needs those Web buttons-links to stay active as in the on-line version, but while on the Web he can do it, he cannot do it offline. Let it be said that the whole web site is dynamically generated from a database and so we can't provide normal links, but all CGI requests. Anybody would be able to tell us if and how it would be possible to handle this on the CD-ROM? (If you think it helps, you can get an idea of the top frame by looking at http://dad.fao.org/home.tm, but you will not be allowed to enter without a password. You must also view -at the moment- with Netscape 4.04 or higher) Thanks, -- Luigi Canali-De-Rossi I K O N O S managing director M u l t i m e d i a Rome, Italy mailto:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it Telephone 039 6 33.50.365 Facsimile 039 6 33.11.946 . . . . . Strategic creativity for new media projects development, for research, education and information-based institutions, worldwide "Think strategy, before technology" _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 19-Jul-1998 12:49:15-GMT,2160;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13568 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 06:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08155; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 07:34:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Jul 1998 07:29:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07943; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 07:29:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000901bdb311$06916610$030010ac@dell2ntsvr1.Office> From: "Greg Pauba" To: Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 07:30:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am using EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming convention (8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special characters in my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's own 8.3 filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with Explorer showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD resident file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 filename that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? TIA Greg _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 19-Jul-1998 12:49:15-GMT,1658;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13567 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 06:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08154; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 07:34:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Jul 1998 07:30:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08023; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 07:30:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 08:31:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg Message-Id: <199807191231.IAA29077@nber.nber.org> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] TIFF to PDF conversion Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com A nice command line utility that will do TIFF to PDF conversion from the command line is Image Alchemy from Handmade Software. Costs about $200 and works great. I think the URL is www.handmadesw.com but a search engine should pick it up if that is wrong. Distiller doesn't do TIFFs. Capture does TIFF to PDF but doesn't run from the command line and is expensive (!) and requires a dongle. Hope this helps. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 19-Jul-1998 15:16:11-GMT,2166;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15801 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:16:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12856; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:03:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:00:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12731; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:00:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199807191459.RAA01508@mail.olivr.com> X-Sender: ebenreuven@mail.livepicture.co.il X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 17:59:04 +0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Eliahu Ben-Reuven Subject: [PDF] PDF page numbering Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have a user's manual in PDF format with a table of contents numbered using Roman numerals (the first chapter of the book begins with page 1). When I view my PDF document using Acrobat Exchange, the document's page numbers do not correspond with Acrobat Exchange's page numbers (which appear at the bottom of the screen). Apparently Acrobat Exchange starts "counting" page numbers at the beginning of the document -- including the table of contents. This is especially problematic when you want to print a range of pages (for example, a chapter of the book). If you look at the table of contents, and choose a range of pages to print, the actual range of pages printed is different (offset by the table of contents pages). Is there a solution for this? _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 9:24:14-GMT,3267;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA04170 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 03:24:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA13891; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 03:57:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 03:52:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13689; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 03:52:17 -0500 Message-ID: <6144A965CB6FD111BFF000E029098337010A37@SERVER> From: John Duggan To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:30:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, I've recently done a job for a company where I have converted a hard copy manual to PDF using PageMaker 6.5 and Acrobat 3.0 (Win95). Original source material is from Word files,or hard copy which is scanned and converted. The document is not graphically rich but contains some tables, forms, maps and diagrams, originated in Illustrator and PageMaker itself. The document is around 250 screen-size pages long, and around 10% of the Manual is updated on a monthly basis. The Manual is fully indexed and searchable and the index needs to be updated monthly to reflect the changes in content. The design is simple, with side bars on left and right which contain navigational elements, mostly links to other pages and sections. Between these two side bars is text with the occasional graphic.The substantial number of links are done in Acrobat Exchange. I have been asked by the client to look into the viability of doing the same Manual using HTML. The main reason for this is that they would like to view the Manual over an intranet, using their existing web browsers and without installing any additional software (i.e. Acrobat Reader). I need to map out a new workflow and estimate how long it's going to take to convert the document to HTML and how long it is going to take to update it every month. My main question is: How can I incorporate a search engine which can index and search the whole document and be updated every month? Are we talking cgi here? Are there off-the-shelf solutions? Also: Are there any PDF to HTML solutions Does the PageMaker 'export to HTML' have any value? Are there any clear disadvantages in choosing HTML rather than PDF? Please Cc your replies, as I am on the digest. Thanks in advance, John Duggan Electronic Publishing Manager Smart Works Ltd. Safety Management and Resource Training for the Construction Industry _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 13:42:16-GMT,3180;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08388 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:42:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23286; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:39:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:37:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23123; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:36:58 -0500 Message-ID: <35B34828.7E625836@lsijax.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:37:44 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF List , "pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDFdev] Exiting??? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I use a custom frontend to bring up manuals in PDF and SGML by launching the appropriate browsers, etc... I do this to try and leave the functionallity of the browsers as Commercial-Off-The-Shelf (COTS) and this, in turn, leaves the full windows functionallity. This software is run on Windows NT 4.0 machines and I deliver the Reader w/Search install on the CD. The problem I have occurs when a user minimizes the window, as oppose to closing the browser (i.e. Reader). The frontend software will continue on, and this doesn't cause a problem with looking at documents since I open the documents using the Windows API of 'ShellExecute' to open a PDF, and let the Reader software handle the interface. However, when the user closes the frontend software, if the Reader has been minimized, the frontend software will close and leave the Reader available on the Taskbar. This isn't a major problem but I do like to clean up after myself. I know that I can use the Windows API to search for active instances of the Reader and close them down. It has been suggested that a clean way to do this would be to send an 'exit' or 'close' message to the Adobe Reader application/window. Does anyone have any examples of sending such a command to the Reader or Exchange applications??? If not, does anyone have any other suggestions on how to exit gracefully??? I would appreciate any code snippets that anyone has. TIA, Tracie +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 13:50:26-GMT,5570;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08536 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:50:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22814; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:30:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:26:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22522; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:26:23 -0500 Message-ID: <81242919AC23D1118EF40000000000013083@www.citinc.com> From: James Needles To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:27:15 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com An interesting situation that I am sure a lot of people been faced with. How do you copy you Internet delivered content to a CD-ROM and offer the same functionality provided for the Web product. Also, you said that your entire site is created dynamically, which is the real kicker. One solution would be to generated static pages of all the possible dynamic combinations of elements. Of course, the sheer number of combinations and the lack of CD-ROM space may very quickly count this out, as well as the loss of some functionality. Another way to do it is to provide personal web server software and the content database to your customers to install on their machines (essentially copying your Web site architecture). However, this soon turns into a quagmire of user support issues, e.g., customer don't have powerful enough machines to dynamically create pages fast enough, customers have machine configuration problems, not enough disk space, RAM, etc.. Or, you can rethink the deliver of you content on CD-ROM. It may be easier to provide an application that is entirely PDF. Before you make a decision you might want to check out some of the current CD publishing packages out there, they may have some intermediate solution that may fill your needs. Good Luck. James Needles > ---------- > From: Ikonos[SMTP:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 1998 4:14 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF + javascript > > PDF + javascript > > > Kindest all, > I have the following situation: > > A framed site using an horizontal frame > on the top. > > We then have within the site a "Library" with a number of PDF docs > which can be viewed (with byteserving) or downloaded. > If the user chooses to view, the PDF document is displayed within the > Netscape browser window, through the Reader 3.01 plug-in. > > As the user seees the PDF doc displayed, s(he) can still see the top > navigation frame of the Web site in which there are all the main > links- > buttons to the Web site different areas. > > While on-line the user can then click and link back directly to any > part of the Web site (having the PDF displayed and clicking on buton > bar on HTML page), my production webmaster tells me this will not work > in the oof-line CD-ROM version we are finishing in these next few > days. > > He tells me that if he could handle a Javascript through the PDF he > would > be able to pull it off, but otherwise not. > From what I can understand, he needs those Web buttons-links to stay > active as in the on-line version, but while on the Web he can do it, > he cannot do it offline. > > Let it be said that the whole web site is dynamically generated from > a database and so we can't provide normal links, but all CGI requests. > > Anybody would be able to tell us if and how it would be possible to > handle this on the CD-ROM? > > > (If you think it helps, you can get an idea of the top frame by > looking > at > http://dad.fao.org/home.tm, but you will not be allowed > to enter without a password. You must also view -at the moment- > with Netscape 4.04 or higher) > > > Thanks, > > > -- > > Luigi Canali-De-Rossi I K O N O S > managing director M u l t i m e d i a > > Rome, Italy > mailto:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it > Telephone 039 6 33.50.365 > Facsimile 039 6 33.11.946 > . . . . . > Strategic creativity for new media projects development, > for research, education and information-based institutions, worldwide > > "Think strategy, before technology" > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 13:51:23-GMT,3172;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08553 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:51:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23273; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:39:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:36:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23108; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:36:57 -0500 Message-ID: <35B34828.7E625836@lsijax.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:37:44 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF List , "pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Exiting??? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I use a custom frontend to bring up manuals in PDF and SGML by launching the appropriate browsers, etc... I do this to try and leave the functionallity of the browsers as Commercial-Off-The-Shelf (COTS) and this, in turn, leaves the full windows functionallity. This software is run on Windows NT 4.0 machines and I deliver the Reader w/Search install on the CD. The problem I have occurs when a user minimizes the window, as oppose to closing the browser (i.e. Reader). The frontend software will continue on, and this doesn't cause a problem with looking at documents since I open the documents using the Windows API of 'ShellExecute' to open a PDF, and let the Reader software handle the interface. However, when the user closes the frontend software, if the Reader has been minimized, the frontend software will close and leave the Reader available on the Taskbar. This isn't a major problem but I do like to clean up after myself. I know that I can use the Windows API to search for active instances of the Reader and close them down. It has been suggested that a clean way to do this would be to send an 'exit' or 'close' message to the Adobe Reader application/window. Does anyone have any examples of sending such a command to the Reader or Exchange applications??? If not, does anyone have any other suggestions on how to exit gracefully??? I would appreciate any code snippets that anyone has. TIA, Tracie +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 13:59:24-GMT,6411;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08683 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:59:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23559; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:45:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:42:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23405; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:42:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:44:37 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We use WebCD, but it doesn't handle the dynamic stuff. I would like to see Alaire offer a CD version of their product. It would be awesome to do Cold Fusion type searches from CD. > -----Original Message----- > From: James Needles [SMTP:JimN@www.citinc.com] > Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 9:27 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript > > An interesting situation that I am sure a lot of people been faced > with. > How do you copy you Internet delivered content to a CD-ROM and offer > the > same functionality provided for the Web product. Also, you said that > your entire site is created dynamically, which is the real kicker. > One > solution would be to generated static pages of all the possible > dynamic > combinations of elements. Of course, the sheer number of combinations > and the lack of CD-ROM space may very quickly count this out, as well > as > the loss of some functionality. Another way to do it is to provide > personal web server software and the content database to your > customers > to install on their machines (essentially copying your Web site > architecture). However, this soon turns into a quagmire of user > support > issues, e.g., customer don't have powerful enough machines to > dynamically create pages fast enough, customers have machine > configuration problems, not enough disk space, RAM, etc.. Or, you can > rethink the deliver of you content on CD-ROM. It may be easier to > provide an application that is entirely PDF. Before you make a > decision > you might want to check out some of the current CD publishing packages > out there, they may have some intermediate solution that may fill your > needs. > > Good Luck. > > James Needles > > > > > ---------- > > From: Ikonos[SMTP:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 1998 4:14 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] PDF + javascript > > > > PDF + javascript > > > > > > Kindest all, > > I have the following situation: > > > > A framed site using an horizontal frame > > on the top. > > > > We then have within the site a "Library" with a number of PDF docs > > which can be viewed (with byteserving) or downloaded. > > If the user chooses to view, the PDF document is displayed within > the > > Netscape browser window, through the Reader 3.01 plug-in. > > > > As the user seees the PDF doc displayed, s(he) can still see the top > > > navigation frame of the Web site in which there are all the main > > links- > > buttons to the Web site different areas. > > > > While on-line the user can then click and link back directly to any > > part of the Web site (having the PDF displayed and clicking on buton > > bar on HTML page), my production webmaster tells me this will not > work > > in the oof-line CD-ROM version we are finishing in these next few > > days. > > > > He tells me that if he could handle a Javascript through the PDF he > > would > > be able to pull it off, but otherwise not. > > From what I can understand, he needs those Web buttons-links to stay > > active as in the on-line version, but while on the Web he can do it, > > > he cannot do it offline. > > > > Let it be said that the whole web site is dynamically generated from > > > a database and so we can't provide normal links, but all CGI > requests. > > > > Anybody would be able to tell us if and how it would be possible to > > handle this on the CD-ROM? > > > > > > (If you think it helps, you can get an idea of the top frame by > > looking > > at > > http://dad.fao.org/home.tm, but you will not be allowed > > to enter without a password. You must also view -at the moment- > > with Netscape 4.04 or higher) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -- > > > > Luigi Canali-De-Rossi I K O N O > S > > managing director M u l t i m e d i > a > > > > Rome, > Italy > > > mailto:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it > > Telephone 039 6 > 33.50.365 > > Facsimile 039 6 > 33.11.946 > > . . . . > . > > Strategic creativity for new media projects development, > > for research, education and information-based institutions, > worldwide > > > > "Think strategy, before technology" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 15:22:04-GMT,3971;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10637 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27645; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:04:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:01:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27460; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:00:58 -0500 Message-ID: <35B35B9D.FB1C5267@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:00:45 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs References: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27280627@MARS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA27456 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Check out Muscat at www.muscat.com. Tres cool search engine. Bob Moran Schiff, Kenny wrote: > Sorry to ask this question again, but I'm still not sure which way to > go. > > We've just finished converting our entire tech manual library to PDF and > are in the process of organizing our Extranet website to accomodate > them. The missing piece is a search engine. > > We're running IIS 3.0. > > The box uses NT's security to secure file areas. Users have access to > files based on NT permissions. Users get authenticated on login. > > I need a way to index the site, but also to filter hits based on login. > > I just priced Verity's Search 97, and they want big $ for it. Has anyone > used InfoSeeks's Ultraseek Server? what about Cascade's Mediasphere? > Also, anyone succesfully implement the free Ifitler with MS Index > server? > > Also, Verity makes an interesting product that puts your website on a CD > with a scaled down version of the search engine embedded. We are > publishing CDs too, and have been building an alternative PDF front-end > for it. It would be much easier to just port over the website to the CD. > Verity's prices are outrageous for a mid-sized niche company like ours, > so I was wondering if others are making a similar product at a more > reasonabl price tag. > > Kenny Schiff > > Kenny Schiff > Director Corporate Communications > Rauland-Borg Corporation > http://www.rauland.com > kenny.schiff@rauland.com > <> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Kenny Schiff (E-mail) > Director of Corporate Communications > Rauland-Borg Corporation > > Kenny Schiff (E-mail) > Director of Corporate Communications > Rauland-Borg Corporation > 3450 West Oakton Work Voice: (847) 679-0900 x395 > Skokie > IL > 60076 > United States of America > Additional Information: > Version 2.1 > Last Name Schiff > First NameKenny > Label Work3450 West Oakton Skokie, IL 60076 United States of America > Revision 19980716T213912Z -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 15:27:56-GMT,2517;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10741 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:27:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28460; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:16:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:13:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28163; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:13:49 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256647.00543FF2.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:21:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. "Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am using EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming convention (8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special characters in my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's own 8.3 filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with Explorer showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD resident file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 filename that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? TIA Greg _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 16:16:26-GMT,1723;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11860 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:16:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31023; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:03:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:01:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30835; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:01:14 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F641A0E4F@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: "'srpearson@lucent.com'" Subject: [PDF] Global Modification Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:57:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Does anyone know of a way to automatically replace the color of all links in a PDF document? Example: I have a PDF document with visible links that are red. The customer would prefer black. Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions are very welcome! Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 16:16:55-GMT,3606;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11869 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:16:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30826; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:00:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:58:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30676; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:58:26 -0500 From: pweddle@ntmail.cpsc.gov Message-Id: <9807209009.AA900950384@mailserver.us.cpsc.gov> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 98 11:57:17 -0500 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have recently converted over 20,000 TIFF's to PDF using RTSImport. It works well on any image type that can be imported into Exchange. For the money, you can't beat it. Pat ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf Author: at INTERNET-MAIL Date: 7/18/98 11:55 AM Sam: > I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to PDF. > The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed using > Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. 4. > Thanks guys! If your TIFFs are document images, ESPECIALLY if they're 300 dpi, your vendor did you a favor. Uncompressed (the way Photoshop likes 'em), your "couple thousand TIFFs" would likely consume most of a 4 gig hard drive! G4 compression is lossless and can reduce file size by a factor of 20... > What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using Win > NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. Are they single or multi-page TIFFs? If single, do you need them compiled into multi-page PDFs? Different solutions apply in different cases... > I found that this works rather well but... > > C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps Hmm. I doubt it, but.... whatever! I guess I've never tried that. > ... what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the > background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. > Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? Try RTSImport. It does most of what you want, I think. Or, if your conversion is a one-time event, AND if your documents are generally under 15 pages long, you could use Exchange's File-Import command. It's manual, but cheap (free), drop-dead easy, right there is Exchange, and it permits onvertion and collation at the same time. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 17:15:59-GMT,3062;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13274 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:15:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00815; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:50:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:48:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00679; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:48:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:28:19 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199807201248_MC2-53A3-2D2B@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA00675 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sam, we are currently about to extend our pdfBatchMeister tool so that it converts TIFF files to PDF (though you will still need Distiller). If you could provide me with a few samples of your files, we could run a test and verify it works with your kind of files, and I would send you a beta. Best Regards, Olaf Druemmer > >I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to PDF. >The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed using >Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. 4. >Thanks guys! > >What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using Win >NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. > >I found that this works rather well but... > >C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps > >... what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the >background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. >Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? > >TIA > >Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 17:16:11-GMT,2100;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13278 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:16:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00990; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:53:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:51:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00836; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:51:25 -0500 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256647.005BA7C7.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:52:44 -0400 Subject: [PDF] SETTING PDF PROPERTIES TO FIT VISIBLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I'am working with a 12 chapter pdf document and I have set the properties on each chapter to open "Fit Visible". Each chapter is a separate PDF file and all chapters can be accessed through bookmarks which were added to each PDF chapter. The problem I have is that when I click on the bookmark to open a chapter the PDF document opens "Fit Width" (I believe) not "Fit Visible". I have even tried to set the Page Action on each chapter to open "Fit Visible" still no luck. Once the bookmark is clicked and the chapter is opened (incorrectly) if you click on the bookmarked chapter # of the current chapter that is opened it will resize the window to "Fit Visible" Can you open a document "Fit Visible and if so how? _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 17:25:24-GMT,1984;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13559 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:25:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02092; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:10:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:08:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01934; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:08:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Global Modification Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:53:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bdb400$f01bdf00$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F641A0E4F@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > Does anyone know of a way to automatically replace the color > of all links in > a PDF document? > > Example: I have a PDF document with visible links that are > red. The customer > would prefer black. > I don't believe so. It is on my list of "nice plug-ins to write one day". An "all text to black" plug-in would actually be much simpler and might get written sooner. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 17:26:54-GMT,2616;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13604 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:26:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02265; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:13:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:11:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02119; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:11:37 -0500 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509756670@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'kfarrell@lucent.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Global Modification Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:11:44 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Alliant Techsystems' LinkManager(tm) is an Adobe Acrobat plug-in designed to do exactly that. Please visit our website for information, contact me directly offline for any information and/or purchase. Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems 13133 34th Street North Clearwater, FL 33762 Voice: (727)572-2491 <-- new area code WWW: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)[SMTP:kfarrell@lucent.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 11:57 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Cc: 'srpearson@lucent.com' > Subject: [PDF] Global Modification > > Does anyone know of a way to automatically replace the color of all > links in > a PDF document? > > Example: I have a PDF document with visible links that are red. The > customer > would prefer black. > > Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions are very welcome! > > Kevin Farrell > Lucent Technologies > mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 17:47:39-GMT,1794;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14099 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:47:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03303; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:33:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:30:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03124; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:30:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] TIFF to PDF conversion Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:34:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Thank you to all who answered so speedily. The answer I will use for now is the one in front of my face; The File|Import feature. I cannot believe that I did not consider that. I also appreciated suggestions for plug-ins. My budget next year will definitely include a few... I am quite new at the PDF thang. The best thing about this list is the fact that you are all so quick to offer help. Thanks again. Sam Jessup _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 17:53:36-GMT,3295;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14248 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:53:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03715; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:41:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:39:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03573; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:39:24 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01bdb405$7bab1e10$030010ac@dell2ntsvr1.Office> From: "Greg Pauba" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:40:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Since it is a Windows 3.1 application, how does it handle Windows 95 long filenames? Greg -----Original Message----- From: sgililland@nexstar.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing >We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. > > > > >"Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM > >Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) >Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > > > >I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am using >EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming convention >(8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special characters in >my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's own >8.3 >filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming >convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with Explorer >showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD resident >file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! >Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 >filename >that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? >TIA >Greg > >_______________________________________________ >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 18:31:00-GMT,2030;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15099 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:30:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05673; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:14:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:13:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05594; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:13:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199807201813.LAA10179@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:15:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF to PDF conversion From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >Thank you to all who answered so speedily. The answer I will use for now >is the one in front of my face; The File|Import feature. If you are considering that, then consider using Photoshop (4.x or above). I have always found saving from Photoshop to PDF superior to File/Import - smaller PDF files. Plus, you can create an action in Photoshop to automate the process. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 21:51:31-GMT,1927;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20228 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:51:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14245; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:16:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:14:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14127; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:14:28 -0500 From: "ian joslin" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:13:16 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Message-ID: <040bf1414211478UPIMSSMTPUSR01@email.msn.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com This list amazes me with the quickfire response - I couldn't resist trying out a first query: Assuming I have a document originated in Pagemaker or Quark, saved to PDF. Assuming that the 'original PM or Quark' file has unrecorded subsequent changes, once again saved to PDF. ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of highlighting or flagging up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by search/comparison of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? Ian J Production Consultant _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 20-Jul-1998 21:52:17-GMT,2250;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20269 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:52:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14833; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:28:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:27:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14744; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:27:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:31:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Ian: > This list amazes me with the quickfire response - I couldn't > resist trying > out a first query: Don't abuse us! :-) Actually, I agree with you.... this is just a fantastic list, the best tech list I know, far and away. > Assuming I have a document originated in Pagemaker or Quark, > saved to PDF. > > Assuming that the 'original PM or Quark' file has unrecorded > subsequent > changes, once again saved to PDF. > > ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of > highlighting or flagging > up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by > search/comparison > of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? Yuck. I'd rather deal with version control at the source-app end, frankly. ...which is another way of saying that I am unaware of any utility to meet your needs. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 4:06:04-GMT,6896;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29215 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:06:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28699; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:47:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:45:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28619; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:45:14 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDB49C.B68E0320@min.minmet.com.au> From: Min Chen To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:42:54 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDB49C.B695A440" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDB49C.B695A440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just saw this message. Actually I just wrote a VB program to convert = Tiff files to PDF files, it reads Tiff files from one drive and create = the same directory structure in the destination drive, it also allows = you to specify from which subdirectory you want converstion to start. I = used PDF writer to do the job. It is pity I can not simply give it away = since there is a commercial image control used in the program. -----Original Message----- From: Jessup, Samuel [SMTP:Samuel.Jessup@lfr.com] Sent: Saturday, 18 July 1998 8:30 To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to PDF. The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed using Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. 4. Thanks guys! What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using Win NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. I found that this works rather well but... C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps .. what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? 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Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:19:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29135; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:59:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:58:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29081; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:58:42 -0500 Message-ID: <35B40FAB.BAB0AF48@psnw.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 20:48:59 -0700 From: Lynda Schrumpf Organization: P&L Marketing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing References: <88256647.00543FF2.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We use Adaptec Easy CD 3.01a and publish 2000 pdf files plus the catalog 3.0 index using a windows 95 machine to an HP CD Writer and the CD Search fine and the file names are the same as on the PC windows 8.3 name. Hope that helps. sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. > > "Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM > > Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) > Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am using > EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming convention > (8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special characters in > my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's own > 8.3 > filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming > convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with Explorer > showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD resident > file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! > Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 > filename > that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? > TIA > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 4:28:10-GMT,2998;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29576 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:28:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29805; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:16:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:15:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29775; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:15:15 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980720210908.007ec960@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:09:08 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF page numbering In-Reply-To: <199807191459.RAA01508@mail.olivr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Unfortunately, there is not. You could either redo your page numbering so it is seqential to Acrobat's (it is always seqential from page 1 of ANY document). Or you could do what we have done with our user docs and that is to explain up front this limitation and how to deal with it. We use complex page numbering (1-1, 1-2, etc.) and our users didn't mind the difference in page numbering styles, provided they knew of the differences up fron. At 05:59 PM 7/19/98 +0300, you wrote: >I have a user's manual in PDF format with a table of contents numbered >using Roman numerals (the first chapter of the book begins with page 1). >When I view my PDF document using Acrobat Exchange, the document's page >numbers do not correspond with Acrobat Exchange's page numbers (which >appear at the bottom of the screen). Apparently Acrobat Exchange starts >"counting" page numbers at the beginning of the document -- including the >table of contents. > >This is especially problematic when you want to print a range of pages (for >example, a chapter of the book). If you look at the table of contents, and >choose a range of pages to print, the actual range of pages printed is >different (offset by the table of contents pages). Is there a solution for >this? > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 8:24:50-GMT,3833;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04076 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 02:24:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA03513; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 03:02:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 02:59:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA03369; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 02:59:35 -0500 Message-ID: <000901bdb47c$91405a20$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: "Nic Plum" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:07:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >From personal experience exporting to HTML from PageMaker isn't a good option - it's slow and the results can be quirky. It's not the basis for an automatic or semi-automatic process. Does the starting point have to be PageMaker? It seems to make the changes/conversion/add-ins for the source application rather than post-process the Acrobat result but you do have other choices if, for example you can convert directly from Word. It may be worth looking at the w3 org page for style sheets (www.w3.org/Style/CSS/) where there is at least one add-in for Word that will produce HTML output with a Cascading Style Sheet (giving you better control over the appearance). You can then use a standard web search engine/indexer or, if you're keen enough, get some simple JavaScript or similar to do this part for you. Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: John Duggan To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: 20 July 1998 10:03 Subject: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion >How can I incorporate a search engine which can index and search the >whole document and be updated every month? >Are we talking cgi here? >Are there off-the-shelf solutions? > >Also: > >Are there any PDF to HTML solutions >Does the PageMaker 'export to HTML' have any value? >Are there any clear disadvantages in choosing HTML rather than PDF? > > >Please Cc your replies, as I am on the digest. >Thanks in advance, > > >John Duggan > >Electronic Publishing Manager >Smart Works Ltd. > >Safety Management and Resource Training >for the Construction Industry > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 8:31:16-GMT,2423;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04314 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 02:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA03979; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 03:19:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 03:18:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA03930; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 03:18:31 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:20:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bdb480$6d7464c0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of > highlighting or flagging > up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by > search/comparison > of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? There is a utility called P/comp available from: Bob Radtke, Pegasus Global, 2066 59th St N, Clearwater, FL 33760, USA VOICE & FAX: 1-813-531-8205 e-mail:rradtke@gte.net No commercial interest on my part and we have never put it through its paces - although I have heard that it works! drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 11:02:39-GMT,2602;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06747 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 05:02:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA08465; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 05:46:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 05:41:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08252; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 05:41:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199807211041.GAA26899@cpcug.org> From: "Jane Edwards" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:39:14 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ---------- : From: John Duggan : To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' : Subject: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion : Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 4:30 AM : I create a publication once a month in PageMaker and convert it to HTML. It's a good start and puts in a lot of the html codes, but I continue working on it in FrontPage to fine-tune it. If you have created the publication in PageMaker already and need to put it in html, yes, by all means use the converter. If you are trying to get text directly into html, don't put it in PageMaker first. : Are there any PDF to HTML solutions : Does the PageMaker 'export to HTML' have any value? : Are there any clear disadvantages in choosing HTML rather than PDF? : : John Duggan : : Electronic Publishing Manager : Smart Works Ltd. : : Safety Management and Resource Training : for the Construction Industry : : : : _______________________________________________ : : -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- : * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * : "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" : _______________________________________________ : _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 11:38:19-GMT,2764;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07358 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 05:38:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09686; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:23:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:21:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09569; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:21:11 -0500 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A50975667A@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:21:32 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com PComp from Radtke Consulting is a plug-in that compares two PDFs. More info on actual functionality can be gotten from Radtke Consulting via: Robert Radtke 727-531-8205 rradtke@gte.net Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems 13133 34th Street North Clearwater, FL 33762 Voice: (727)572-2491 <-- new area code WWW: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: ian joslin[SMTP:murrayjoslin@email.msn.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 5:13 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > > This list amazes me with the quickfire response - I couldn't resist > trying > out a first query: > > Assuming I have a document originated in Pagemaker or Quark, saved to > PDF. > > Assuming that the 'original PM or Quark' file has unrecorded > subsequent > changes, once again saved to PDF. > > ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of highlighting or > flagging > up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by > search/comparison > of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? > > Ian J > Production Consultant > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 11:40:53-GMT,1673;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07400 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 05:40:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09868; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:28:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:25:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09748; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:25:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jason Creak To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:25:22 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, Is there a utility that allows Acrobat Form fields to be moved from document to document - for example if the base document has been re-distilled? Recreating them is such a pain...... Thanks, Jason Creak ------ Engineering Development IS Solutions Plc +44 (0)1932 893333 http://www.issolutions.co.uk _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 12:22:08-GMT,3083;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08029 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:22:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11103; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:04:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:01:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10966; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:01:38 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:00:59 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? Cc: Jason Creak Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Jason, there are a few possibilities. The first one would be to include the form field information into the source document. You can do this by placing very basic EPS files containing the PDFMARK command for the form field into your document. If the document preparation software supports PostScript elements (such as FrameMaker's PostScript flows), you can also place the whole group of these commands in such a flow. When you distill the documents, the form fields will be there. You will need the PDFMARK Reference Manual (also known as Adobe Tech Note 5051, available either on the Acrobat 3.01 CD, or downloadable from the developer section of Adobe's website), and the Portable Document Format Reference Manual (available from the same sources). The other possibility is using Exchange with the Acrobat Forms 3.5 Author plug-in, which allows copying and pasting fields between pages and documents. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Hi, > >Is there a utility that allows Acrobat Form fields to be moved from >document to document - for example if the base document has been >re-distilled? > >Recreating them is such a pain...... > >Thanks, > >Jason Creak > >------ >Engineering Development >IS Solutions Plc >+44 (0)1932 893333 >http://www.issolutions.co.uk > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 12:31:49-GMT,1893;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08153 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:31:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11413; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:11:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:09:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11299; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:09:19 -0500 From: "Michael L. Jewell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:09:08 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.4 Build (40) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:25:22 +0100 Jason Creak wrote: > > Is there a utility that allows Acrobat Form fields to be moved from > document to document - for example if the base document has been > re-distilled? > Jason, Leave the fields alone and replace the document with the Document / Replace-Pages function. -- Mike Jewell mlj3u@virginia.edu 804-982-2175 _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 12:58:20-GMT,3836;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08644 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:58:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12881; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:40:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:38:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12734; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:38:37 -0500 Message-ID: <002501bdb4a4$a047acd0$030010ac@dell2ntsvr1.Office> From: "Greg Pauba" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:39:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Lynda, Did you start with Win95 Long File Names? Thanks, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Lynda Schrumpf To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing >We use Adaptec Easy CD 3.01a and publish 2000 pdf files plus the catalog 3.0 >index using a windows 95 machine to an HP CD Writer and the CD Search fine and >the file names are the same as on the PC windows 8.3 name. > >Hope that helps. > >sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > >> We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. >> >> "Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM >> >> Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) >> Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing >> >> I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am using >> EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming convention >> (8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special characters in >> my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's own >> 8.3 >> filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming >> convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with Explorer >> showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD resident >> file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! >> Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 >> filename >> that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? >> TIA >> Greg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >> * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >> "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >> _______________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >> * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >> "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 16:38:30-GMT,3239;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16132 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:38:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24114; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:21:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:16:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23812; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:16:53 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDB49F.9D948D00.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:03:45 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Have you looked at the Adobe PDF I Filter??? No Cost but some integration time. Allows indexing using Microsoft Index server. Will then allow full text search on all PDF 's indexed as well as the Doc Info fields. -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 1:01 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs Sorry to ask this question again, but I'm still not sure which way to go. We've just finished converting our entire tech manual library to PDF and are in the process of organizing our Extranet website to accomodate them. The missing piece is a search engine. We're running IIS 3.0. The box uses NT's security to secure file areas. Users have access to files based on NT permissions. Users get authenticated on login. I need a way to index the site, but also to filter hits based on login. I just priced Verity's Search 97, and they want big $ for it. Has anyone used InfoSeeks's Ultraseek Server? what about Cascade's Mediasphere? Also, anyone succesfully implement the free Ifitler with MS Index server? Also, Verity makes an interesting product that puts your website on a CD with a scaled down version of the search engine embedded. We are publishing CDs too, and have been building an alternative PDF front-end for it. It would be much easier to just port over the website to the CD. Verity's prices are outrageous for a mid-sized niche company like ours, so I was wondering if others are making a similar product at a more reasonabl price tag. Kenny Schiff Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com <> << File: Kenny Schiff (E-mail).vcf >> _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 16:47:04-GMT,2758;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16338 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:47:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25058; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:36:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:33:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24865; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:33:41 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256648.005B8B7B.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:41:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] SETTING PDF PROPERTIES TO FIT VISIBLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Fit visible and Fit width appear to be the same - at least on my big monitor. Have you tried "inherit Zoom"? Most of the time that would open the document at the size that has been working best for the viewer. SueG Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com on 07/20/98 09:52:44 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] SETTING PDF PROPERTIES TO FIT VISIBLE I'am working with a 12 chapter pdf document and I have set the properties on each chapter to open "Fit Visible". Each chapter is a separate PDF file and all chapters can be accessed through bookmarks which were added to each PDF chapter. The problem I have is that when I click on the bookmark to open a chapter the PDF document opens "Fit Width" (I believe) not "Fit Visible". I have even tried to set the Page Action on each chapter to open "Fit Visible" still no luck. Once the bookmark is clicked and the chapter is opened (incorrectly) if you click on the bookmarked chapter # of the current chapter that is opened it will resize the window to "Fit Visible" Can you open a document "Fit Visible and if so how? _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 17:15:21-GMT,61839;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17095 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:15:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25977; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:49:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:46:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25776; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:46:39 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:45:49 -0500 From: Scott Tichenor To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re:pdf-digest for July-21-98 [V2 #274] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA25767 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I will be out of the office on July 21-22. >>> "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" 07/21/98 11:16 >>> pdf-digest Tuesday, July 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 274 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- There are 28 messages totalling 2159 lines in this issue. Topics of the Day: 1. RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript 2. [PDF] Exiting??? 3. RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript 4. Re: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs 5. Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing 6. Re[2]: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf 7. [PDF] Global Modification 8. Re: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf 9. [PDF] SETTING PDF PROPERTIES TO FIT VISIBLE 10. RE: [PDF] Global Modification 11. RE: [PDF] Global Modification 12. RE: [PDF] TIFF to PDF conversion 13. Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing 14. Re: [PDF] TIFF to PDF conversion 15. [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? 16. RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? 17. RE: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf 18. Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing 19. Re: [PDF] PDF page numbering 20. Re: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion 21. RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? 22. Re: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion 23. RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? 24. [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? 25. Re: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? 26. Re: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? 27. Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing 28. RE: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:27:15 -0400 From: James Needles Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript An interesting situation that I am sure a lot of people been faced with. How do you copy you Internet delivered content to a CD-ROM and offer the same functionality provided for the Web product. Also, you said that your entire site is created dynamically, which is the real kicker. One solution would be to generated static pages of all the possible dynamic combinations of elements. Of course, the sheer number of combinations and the lack of CD-ROM space may very quickly count this out, as well as the loss of some functionality. Another way to do it is to provide personal web server software and the content database to your customers to install on their machines (essentially copying your Web site architecture). However, this soon turns into a quagmire of user support issues, e.g., customer don't have powerful enough machines to dynamically create pages fast enough, customers have machine configuration problems, not enough disk space, RAM, etc.. Or, you can rethink the deliver of you content on CD-ROM. It may be easier to provide an application that is entirely PDF. Before you make a decision you might want to check out some of the current CD publishing packages out there, they may have some intermediate solution that may fill your needs. Good Luck. James Needles > ---------- > From: Ikonos[SMTP:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 1998 4:14 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF + javascript > > PDF + javascript > > > Kindest all, > I have the following situation: > > A framed site using an horizontal frame > on the top. > > We then have within the site a "Library" with a number of PDF docs > which can be viewed (with byteserving) or downloaded. > If the user chooses to view, the PDF document is displayed within the > Netscape browser window, through the Reader 3.01 plug-in. > > As the user seees the PDF doc displayed, s(he) can still see the top > navigation frame of the Web site in which there are all the main > links- > buttons to the Web site different areas. > > While on-line the user can then click and link back directly to any > part of the Web site (having the PDF displayed and clicking on buton > bar on HTML page), my production webmaster tells me this will not work > in the oof-line CD-ROM version we are finishing in these next few > days. > > He tells me that if he could handle a Javascript through the PDF he > would > be able to pull it off, but otherwise not. > From what I can understand, he needs those Web buttons-links to stay > active as in the on-line version, but while on the Web he can do it, > he cannot do it offline. > > Let it be said that the whole web site is dynamically generated from > a database and so we can't provide normal links, but all CGI requests. > > Anybody would be able to tell us if and how it would be possible to > handle this on the CD-ROM? > > > (If you think it helps, you can get an idea of the top frame by > looking > at > http://dad.fao.org/home.tm, but you will not be allowed > to enter without a password. You must also view -at the moment- > with Netscape 4.04 or higher) > > > Thanks, > > > -- > > Luigi Canali-De-Rossi I K O N O S > managing director M u l t i m e d i a > > Rome, Italy > mailto:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it > Telephone 039 6 33.50.365 > Facsimile 039 6 33.11.946 > . . . . . > Strategic creativity for new media projects development, > for research, education and information-based institutions, worldwide > > "Think strategy, before technology" > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:37:44 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Subject: [PDF] Exiting??? I use a custom frontend to bring up manuals in PDF and SGML by launching the appropriate browsers, etc... I do this to try and leave the functionallity of the browsers as Commercial-Off-The-Shelf (COTS) and this, in turn, leaves the full windows functionallity. This software is run on Windows NT 4.0 machines and I deliver the Reader w/Search install on the CD. The problem I have occurs when a user minimizes the window, as oppose to closing the browser (i.e. Reader). The frontend software will continue on, and this doesn't cause a problem with looking at documents since I open the documents using the Windows API of 'ShellExecute' to open a PDF, and let the Reader software handle the interface. However, when the user closes the frontend software, if the Reader has been minimized, the frontend software will close and leave the Reader available on the Taskbar. This isn't a major problem but I do like to clean up after myself. I know that I can use the Windows API to search for active instances of the Reader and close them down. It has been suggested that a clean way to do this would be to send an 'exit' or 'close' message to the Adobe Reader application/window. Does anyone have any examples of sending such a command to the Reader or Exchange applications??? If not, does anyone have any other suggestions on how to exit gracefully??? I would appreciate any code snippets that anyone has. TIA, Tracie +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:44:37 -0400 From: "Czajka, Mark" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript We use WebCD, but it doesn't handle the dynamic stuff. I would like to see Alaire offer a CD version of their product. It would be awesome to do Cold Fusion type searches from CD. > -----Original Message----- > From: James Needles [SMTP:JimN@www.citinc.com] > Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 9:27 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript > > An interesting situation that I am sure a lot of people been faced > with. > How do you copy you Internet delivered content to a CD-ROM and offer > the > same functionality provided for the Web product. Also, you said that > your entire site is created dynamically, which is the real kicker. > One > solution would be to generated static pages of all the possible > dynamic > combinations of elements. Of course, the sheer number of combinations > and the lack of CD-ROM space may very quickly count this out, as well > as > the loss of some functionality. Another way to do it is to provide > personal web server software and the content database to your > customers > to install on their machines (essentially copying your Web site > architecture). However, this soon turns into a quagmire of user > support > issues, e.g., customer don't have powerful enough machines to > dynamically create pages fast enough, customers have machine > configuration problems, not enough disk space, RAM, etc.. Or, you can > rethink the deliver of you content on CD-ROM. It may be easier to > provide an application that is entirely PDF. Before you make a > decision > you might want to check out some of the current CD publishing packages > out there, they may have some intermediate solution that may fill your > needs. > > Good Luck. > > James Needles > > > > > ---------- > > From: Ikonos[SMTP:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 1998 4:14 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] PDF + javascript > > > > PDF + javascript > > > > > > Kindest all, > > I have the following situation: > > > > A framed site using an horizontal frame > > on the top. > > > > We then have within the site a "Library" with a number of PDF docs > > which can be viewed (with byteserving) or downloaded. > > If the user chooses to view, the PDF document is displayed within > the > > Netscape browser window, through the Reader 3.01 plug-in. > > > > As the user seees the PDF doc displayed, s(he) can still see the top > > > navigation frame of the Web site in which there are all the main > > links- > > buttons to the Web site different areas. > > > > While on-line the user can then click and link back directly to any > > part of the Web site (having the PDF displayed and clicking on buton > > bar on HTML page), my production webmaster tells me this will not > work > > in the oof-line CD-ROM version we are finishing in these next few > > days. > > > > He tells me that if he could handle a Javascript through the PDF he > > would > > be able to pull it off, but otherwise not. > > From what I can understand, he needs those Web buttons-links to stay > > active as in the on-line version, but while on the Web he can do it, > > > he cannot do it offline. > > > > Let it be said that the whole web site is dynamically generated from > > > a database and so we can't provide normal links, but all CGI > requests. > > > > Anybody would be able to tell us if and how it would be possible to > > handle this on the CD-ROM? > > > > > > (If you think it helps, you can get an idea of the top frame by > > looking > > at > > http://dad.fao.org/home.tm, but you will not be allowed > > to enter without a password. You must also view -at the moment- > > with Netscape 4.04 or higher) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -- > > > > Luigi Canali-De-Rossi I K O N O > S > > managing director M u l t i m e d i > a > > > > Rome, > Italy > > > mailto:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it > > Telephone 039 6 > 33.50.365 > > Facsimile 039 6 > 33.11.946 > > . . . . > . > > Strategic creativity for new media projects development, > > for research, education and information-based institutions, > worldwide > > > > "Think strategy, before technology" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:00:45 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Subject: Re: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs Check out Muscat at www.muscat.com. Tres cool search engine. Bob Moran Schiff, Kenny wrote: > Sorry to ask this question again, but I'm still not sure which way to > go. > > We've just finished converting our entire tech manual library to PDF and > are in the process of organizing our Extranet website to accomodate > them. The missing piece is a search engine. > > We're running IIS 3.0. > > The box uses NT's security to secure file areas. Users have access to > files based on NT permissions. Users get authenticated on login. > > I need a way to index the site, but also to filter hits based on login. > > I just priced Verity's Search 97, and they want big $ for it. Has anyone > used InfoSeeks's Ultraseek Server? what about Cascade's Mediasphere? > Also, anyone succesfully implement the free Ifitler with MS Index > server? > > Also, Verity makes an interesting product that puts your website on a CD > with a scaled down version of the search engine embedded. We are > publishing CDs too, and have been building an alternative PDF front-end > for it. It would be much easier to just port over the website to the CD. > Verity's prices are outrageous for a mid-sized niche company like ours, > so I was wondering if others are making a similar product at a more > reasonabl price tag. > > Kenny Schiff > > Kenny Schiff > Director Corporate Communications > Rauland-Borg Corporation > http://www.rauland.com > kenny.schiff@rauland.com > <> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Kenny Schiff (E-mail) > Director of Corporate Communications > Rauland-Borg Corporation > > Kenny Schiff (E-mail) > Director of Corporate Communications > Rauland-Borg Corporation > 3450 West Oakton Work Voice: (847) 679-0900 x395 > Skokie > IL > 60076 > United States of America > Additional Information: > Version 2.1 > Last Name Schiff > First NameKenny > Label Work3450 West Oakton Skokie, IL 60076 United States of America > Revision 19980716T213912Z - -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com ôConfusion is a misapprehension of a higher orderö ű Henry Miller _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:21:51 -0700 From: sgililland@nexstar.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. "Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am using EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming convention (8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special characters in my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's own 8.3 filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with Explorer showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD resident file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 filename that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? TIA Greg _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 98 11:57:17 -0500 From: pweddle@ntmail.cpsc.gov Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf I have recently converted over 20,000 TIFF's to PDF using RTSImport. It works well on any image type that can be imported into Exchange. For the money, you can't beat it. Pat ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf Author: at INTERNET-MAIL Date: 7/18/98 11:55 AM Sam: > I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to PDF. > The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed using > Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. 4. > Thanks guys! If your TIFFs are document images, ESPECIALLY if they're 300 dpi, your vendor did you a favor. Uncompressed (the way Photoshop likes 'em), your "couple thousand TIFFs" would likely consume most of a 4 gig hard drive! G4 compression is lossless and can reduce file size by a factor of 20... > What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using Win > NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. Are they single or multi-page TIFFs? If single, do you need them compiled into multi-page PDFs? Different solutions apply in different cases... > I found that this works rather well but... > > C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps Hmm. I doubt it, but.... whatever! I guess I've never tried that. > ... what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the > background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. > Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? Try RTSImport. It does most of what you want, I think. Or, if your conversion is a one-time event, AND if your documents are generally under 15 pages long, you could use Exchange's File-Import command. It's manual, but cheap (free), drop-dead easy, right there is Exchange, and it permits onvertion and collation at the same time. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:57:13 -0500 From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" Subject: [PDF] Global Modification Does anyone know of a way to automatically replace the color of all links in a PDF document? Example: I have a PDF document with visible links that are red. The customer would prefer black. Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions are very welcome! Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:28:19 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf Sam, we are currently about to extend our pdfBatchMeister tool so that it converts TIFF files to PDF (though you will still need Distiller). If you could provide me with a few samples of your files, we could run a test and verify it works with your kind of files, and I would send you a beta. Best Regards, Olaf Druemmer > >I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to PDF. >The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed using >Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. 4. >Thanks guys! > >What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using Win >NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. > >I found that this works rather well but... > >C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps > >... what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the >background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. >Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? > >TIA > >Sam - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:52:44 -0400 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com Subject: [PDF] SETTING PDF PROPERTIES TO FIT VISIBLE I'am working with a 12 chapter pdf document and I have set the properties on each chapter to open "Fit Visible". Each chapter is a separate PDF file and all chapters can be accessed through bookmarks which were added to each PDF chapter. The problem I have is that when I click on the bookmark to open a chapter the PDF document opens "Fit Width" (I believe) not "Fit Visible". I have even tried to set the Page Action on each chapter to open "Fit Visible" still no luck. Once the bookmark is clicked and the chapter is opened (incorrectly) if you click on the bookmarked chapter # of the current chapter that is opened it will resize the window to "Fit Visible" Can you open a document "Fit Visible and if so how? _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:53:02 +0100 From: "Aandi Inston" Subject: RE: [PDF] Global Modification > > Does anyone know of a way to automatically replace the color > of all links in > a PDF document? > > Example: I have a PDF document with visible links that are > red. The customer > would prefer black. > I don't believe so. It is on my list of "nice plug-ins to write one day". An "all text to black" plug-in would actually be much simpler and might get written sooner. Aandi _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:11:44 -0500 From: "Mera, Jose" Subject: RE: [PDF] Global Modification Alliant Techsystems' LinkManager(tm) is an Adobe Acrobat plug-in designed to do exactly that. Please visit our website for information, contact me directly offline for any information and/or purchase. Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems 13133 34th Street North Clearwater, FL 33762 Voice: (727)572-2491 <-- new area code WWW: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)[SMTP:kfarrell@lucent.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 11:57 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Cc: 'srpearson@lucent.com' > Subject: [PDF] Global Modification > > Does anyone know of a way to automatically replace the color of all > links in > a PDF document? > > Example: I have a PDF document with visible links that are red. The > customer > would prefer black. > > Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions are very welcome! > > Kevin Farrell > Lucent Technologies > mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:34:21 -0700 From: "Jessup, Samuel" Subject: RE: [PDF] TIFF to PDF conversion Thank you to all who answered so speedily. The answer I will use for now is the one in front of my face; The File|Import feature. I cannot believe that I did not consider that. I also appreciated suggestions for plug-ins. My budget next year will definitely include a few... I am quite new at the PDF thang. The best thing about this list is the fact that you are all so quick to offer help. Thanks again. Sam Jessup _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:40:25 -0500 From: "Greg Pauba" Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing Since it is a Windows 3.1 application, how does it handle Windows 95 long filenames? Greg - -----Original Message----- From: sgililland@nexstar.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing >We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. > > > > >"Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM > >Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) >Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > > > >I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am using >EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming convention >(8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special characters in >my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's own >8.3 >filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming >convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with Explorer >showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD resident >file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! >Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 >filename >that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? >TIA >Greg > >_______________________________________________ >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:15:24 -0700 From: "C. Scott Miller" Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF to PDF conversion >Thank you to all who answered so speedily. The answer I will use for now >is the one in front of my face; The File|Import feature. If you are considering that, then consider using Photoshop (4.x or above). I have always found saving from Photoshop to PDF superior to File/Import - smaller PDF files. Plus, you can create an action in Photoshop to automate the process. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:13:16 +0100 From: "ian joslin" Subject: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? This list amazes me with the quickfire response - I couldn't resist trying out a first query: Assuming I have a document originated in Pagemaker or Quark, saved to PDF. Assuming that the 'original PM or Quark' file has unrecorded subsequent changes, once again saved to PDF. ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of highlighting or flagging up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by search/comparison of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? Ian J Production Consultant _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:31:31 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? Ian: > This list amazes me with the quickfire response - I couldn't > resist trying > out a first query: Don't abuse us! :-) Actually, I agree with you.... this is just a fantastic list, the best tech list I know, far and away. > Assuming I have a document originated in Pagemaker or Quark, > saved to PDF. > > Assuming that the 'original PM or Quark' file has unrecorded > subsequent > changes, once again saved to PDF. > > ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of > highlighting or flagging > up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by > search/comparison > of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? Yuck. I'd rather deal with version control at the source-app end, frankly. ...which is another way of saying that I am unaware of any utility to meet your needs. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:42:54 +0800 From: Min Chen Subject: RE: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDB49C.B695A440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just saw this message. Actually I just wrote a VB program to convert = Tiff files to PDF files, it reads Tiff files from one drive and create = the same directory structure in the destination drive, it also allows = you to specify from which subdirectory you want converstion to start. I = used PDF writer to do the job. It is pity I can not simply give it away = since there is a commercial image control used in the program. - -----Original Message----- From: Jessup, Samuel [SMTP:Samuel.Jessup@lfr.com] Sent: Saturday, 18 July 1998 8:30 To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to PDF. The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed using Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. 4. Thanks guys! What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using Win NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. I found that this works rather well but... C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps .. what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? 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Hope that helps. sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. > > "Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM > > Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) > Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am using > EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming convention > (8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special characters in > my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's own > 8.3 > filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming > convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with Explorer > showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD resident > file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! > Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 > filename > that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? > TIA > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:09:08 -0700 From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF page numbering Unfortunately, there is not. You could either redo your page numbering so it is seqential to Acrobat's (it is always seqential from page 1 of ANY document). Or you could do what we have done with our user docs and that is to explain up front this limitation and how to deal with it. We use complex page numbering (1-1, 1-2, etc.) and our users didn't mind the difference in page numbering styles, provided they knew of the differences up fron. At 05:59 PM 7/19/98 +0300, you wrote: >I have a user's manual in PDF format with a table of contents numbered >using Roman numerals (the first chapter of the book begins with page 1). >When I view my PDF document using Acrobat Exchange, the document's page >numbers do not correspond with Acrobat Exchange's page numbers (which >appear at the bottom of the screen). Apparently Acrobat Exchange starts >"counting" page numbers at the beginning of the document -- including the >table of contents. > >This is especially problematic when you want to print a range of pages (for >example, a chapter of the book). If you look at the table of contents, and >choose a range of pages to print, the actual range of pages printed is >different (offset by the table of contents pages). Is there a solution for >this? > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:07:17 +0100 From: "Nic Plum" Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion >From personal experience exporting to HTML from PageMaker isn't a good option - it's slow and the results can be quirky. It's not the basis for an automatic or semi-automatic process. Does the starting point have to be PageMaker? It seems to make the changes/conversion/add-ins for the source application rather than post-process the Acrobat result but you do have other choices if, for example you can convert directly from Word. It may be worth looking at the w3 org page for style sheets (www.w3.org/Style/CSS/) where there is at least one add-in for Word that will produce HTML output with a Cascading Style Sheet (giving you better control over the appearance). You can then use a standard web search engine/indexer or, if you're keen enough, get some simple JavaScript or similar to do this part for you. Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ - -----Original Message----- From: John Duggan To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: 20 July 1998 10:03 Subject: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion >How can I incorporate a search engine which can index and search the >whole document and be updated every month? >Are we talking cgi here? >Are there off-the-shelf solutions? > >Also: > >Are there any PDF to HTML solutions >Does the PageMaker 'export to HTML' have any value? >Are there any clear disadvantages in choosing HTML rather than PDF? > > >Please Cc your replies, as I am on the digest. >Thanks in advance, > > >John Duggan > >Electronic Publishing Manager >Smart Works Ltd. > >Safety Management and Resource Training >for the Construction Industry > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:20:32 +0100 From: "David Cornwell" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of > highlighting or flagging > up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by > search/comparison > of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? There is a utility called P/comp available from: Bob Radtke, Pegasus Global, 2066 59th St N, Clearwater, FL 33760, USA VOICE & FAX: 1-813-531-8205 e-mail:rradtke@gte.net No commercial interest on my part and we have never put it through its paces - although I have heard that it works! drc - --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:39:14 -0400 From: "Jane Edwards" Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion - ---------- : From: John Duggan : To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' : Subject: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion : Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 4:30 AM : I create a publication once a month in PageMaker and convert it to HTML. It's a good start and puts in a lot of the html codes, but I continue working on it in FrontPage to fine-tune it. If you have created the publication in PageMaker already and need to put it in html, yes, by all means use the converter. If you are trying to get text directly into html, don't put it in PageMaker first. : Are there any PDF to HTML solutions : Does the PageMaker 'export to HTML' have any value? : Are there any clear disadvantages in choosing HTML rather than PDF? : : John Duggan : : Electronic Publishing Manager : Smart Works Ltd. : : Safety Management and Resource Training : for the Construction Industry : : : : _______________________________________________ : : -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- : * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * : "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" : _______________________________________________ : _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:21:32 -0500 From: "Mera, Jose" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? PComp from Radtke Consulting is a plug-in that compares two PDFs. More info on actual functionality can be gotten from Radtke Consulting via: Robert Radtke 727-531-8205 rradtke@gte.net Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems 13133 34th Street North Clearwater, FL 33762 Voice: (727)572-2491 <-- new area code WWW: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: ian joslin[SMTP:murrayjoslin@email.msn.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 5:13 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > > This list amazes me with the quickfire response - I couldn't resist > trying > out a first query: > > Assuming I have a document originated in Pagemaker or Quark, saved to > PDF. > > Assuming that the 'original PM or Quark' file has unrecorded > subsequent > changes, once again saved to PDF. > > ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of highlighting or > flagging > up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by > search/comparison > of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? > > Ian J > Production Consultant > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:25:22 +0100 From: Jason Creak Subject: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? Hi, Is there a utility that allows Acrobat Form fields to be moved from document to document - for example if the base document has been re-distilled? Recreating them is such a pain...... Thanks, Jason Creak - ------ Engineering Development IS Solutions Plc +44 (0)1932 893333 http://www.issolutions.co.uk _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:00:59 +0200 From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? Jason, there are a few possibilities. The first one would be to include the form field information into the source document. You can do this by placing very basic EPS files containing the PDFMARK command for the form field into your document. If the document preparation software supports PostScript elements (such as FrameMaker's PostScript flows), you can also place the whole group of these commands in such a flow. When you distill the documents, the form fields will be there. You will need the PDFMARK Reference Manual (also known as Adobe Tech Note 5051, available either on the Acrobat 3.01 CD, or downloadable from the developer section of Adobe's website), and the Portable Document Format Reference Manual (available from the same sources). The other possibility is using Exchange with the Acrobat Forms 3.5 Author plug-in, which allows copying and pasting fields between pages and documents. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Hi, > >Is there a utility that allows Acrobat Form fields to be moved from >document to document - for example if the base document has been >re-distilled? > >Recreating them is such a pain...... > >Thanks, > >Jason Creak > >------ >Engineering Development >IS Solutions Plc >+44 (0)1932 893333 >http://www.issolutions.co.uk > _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:09:08 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Michael L. Jewell" Subject: Re: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:25:22 +0100 Jason Creak wrote: > > Is there a utility that allows Acrobat Form fields to be moved from > document to document - for example if the base document has been > re-distilled? > Jason, Leave the fields alone and replace the document with the Document / Replace-Pages function. - -- Mike Jewell mlj3u@virginia.edu 804-982-2175 _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:39:35 -0500 From: "Greg Pauba" Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing Lynda, Did you start with Win95 Long File Names? Thanks, Greg - -----Original Message----- From: Lynda Schrumpf To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing >We use Adaptec Easy CD 3.01a and publish 2000 pdf files plus the catalog 3.0 >index using a windows 95 machine to an HP CD Writer and the CD Search fine and >the file names are the same as on the PC windows 8.3 name. > >Hope that helps. > >sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > >> We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. >> >> "Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM >> >> Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) >> Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing >> >> I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am using >> EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming convention >> (8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special characters in >> my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's own >> 8.3 >> filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming >> convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with Explorer >> showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD resident >> file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! >> Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 >> filename >> that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? >> TIA >> Greg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >> * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >> "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >> _______________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >> * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >> "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:03:45 -0400 From: Kevin Wagner Subject: RE: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs Have you looked at the Adobe PDF I Filter??? No Cost but some integration time. Allows indexing using Microsoft Index server. Will then allow full text search on all PDF 's indexed as well as the Doc Info fields. - -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 1:01 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs Sorry to ask this question again, but I'm still not sure which way to go. We've just finished converting our entire tech manual library to PDF and are in the process of organizing our Extranet website to accomodate them. The missing piece is a search engine. We're running IIS 3.0. The box uses NT's security to secure file areas. Users have access to files based on NT permissions. Users get authenticated on login. I need a way to index the site, but also to filter hits based on login. I just priced Verity's Search 97, and they want big $ for it. Has anyone used InfoSeeks's Ultraseek Server? what about Cascade's Mediasphere? Also, anyone succesfully implement the free Ifitler with MS Index server? Also, Verity makes an interesting product that puts your website on a CD with a scaled down version of the search engine embedded. We are publishing CDs too, and have been building an alternative PDF front-end for it. It would be much easier to just port over the website to the CD. Verity's prices are outrageous for a mid-sized niche company like ours, so I was wondering if others are making a similar product at a more reasonabl price tag. Kenny Schiff Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com <> << File: Kenny Schiff (E-mail).vcf >> _______________________________________________ - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of pdf-digest V2 #274 ************************* _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 19:02:55-GMT,2180;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21154 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:02:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01686; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:46:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:40:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01280; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:40:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77E8C43301D22600@bic.org> Date: 21 Jul 98 14:31:19 -0500 From: Thane Terrill Organization: New York Baha'i Offices To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Secured PDF Problem X-Mailer: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I used Exchange 3.01 on Win95 to secure a small document that was uploaded to the web. Most people could open it using the password, but a couple of people reported that their Acrobat reader seemed to load and the document was downloaded, but they never got pass the initial grey screen to the box asking for the password. They said they had the newest viewer and that they could open unsecured PDFs from the same site. I confirmed that my secured files are uncorrupted. Any ideas on why these folks might not be able to unlock my PDF? Thanks, ==Thane ============================================== Thane Terrill Network Administrator Baha'i International Community 866 United Nations Plaza - Suite 120 New York City, New York 10017-1822 Email: TTERRILL@BIC.ORG Web URL: http://www.bic-un.bahai.org _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 21:13:01-GMT,2865;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25461 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:13:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10050; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:57:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:52:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09823; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:52:55 -0500 Message-ID: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B183B4AEB@cougar.tfmg.com> From: Robin McCloud To: "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing Page Numbers? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:59:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We are in a bit of a short-term dilemma and need a quick fix, if there is one. If not, we'll live with our dilemma until the next release of our documentation. About two years ago, we converted 15 volumes of legacy documentation to PDF after editing the source files in MS Word. The legacy documentation was paginated manually, converted from WordStar or some other program, was comprised of separate files, and was not in any kind of format - had no styles or anything. Automating the books would be more trouble than it was worth (the stuff is being phased out), so we decided to take off the pagination and use Acrobat's page numbers for online reading. We previously received many complaints from clients that the page numbers did not match Acrobat's pagination in the beta test, so we thought we were home free. We are NOW getting calls from clients who want to print portions of the files, using Acrobat's pagination. I can't find any information in the Acrobat documentation that tells me how to do this -perhaps I'm not looking in the right place. Is there any way to make a setting where the books will print with Acrobat page numbers? Or do we need to automatically create page numbers in MS Word again for our next release? Thanks for any info you can give me! Robin Mc2 (McCloud McDonald) Sr. Technical Communicator Information Development Department The FAST Management Group, Inc. Redmond WA www.tfmg.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 21:15:01-GMT,3373;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25503 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:15:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10469; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:02:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:00:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10272; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:00:47 -0500 Message-ID: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B183B4AEB@cougar.tfmg.com> From: Robin McCloud Old-To: "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing Page Numbers? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:59:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We are in a bit of a short-term dilemma and need a quick fix, if there is one. If not, we'll live with our dilemma until the next release of our documentation. About two years ago, we converted 15 volumes of legacy documentation to PDF after editing the source files in MS Word. The legacy documentation was paginated manually, converted from WordStar or some other program, was comprised of separate files, and was not in any kind of format - had no styles or anything. Automating the books would be more trouble than it was worth (the stuff is being phased out), so we decided to take off the pagination and use Acrobat's page numbers for online reading. We previously received many complaints from clients that the page numbers did not match Acrobat's pagination in the beta test, so we thought we were home free. We are NOW getting calls from clients who want to print portions of the files, using Acrobat's pagination. I can't find any information in the Acrobat documentation that tells me how to do this -perhaps I'm not looking in the right place. Is there any way to make a setting where the books will print with Acrobat page numbers? Or do we need to automatically create page numbers in MS Word again for our next release? Thanks for any info you can give me! Robin Mc2 (McCloud McDonald) Sr. Technical Communicator Information Development Department The FAST Management Group, Inc. Redmond WA www.tfmg.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 21:15:22-GMT,3506;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25519 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:15:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10499; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:03:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:01:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10321; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:01:07 -0500 Message-ID: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B183B4AEB@cougar.tfmg.com> From: Robin McCloud Old-To: "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing Page Numbers? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:59:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain List-Software: LetterRip Pro 3.0.1 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe: List-Administrator: List-Archives: List-Guidelines: X-Loop: karlin@rsch.com To: nkarlin@panix.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We are in a bit of a short-term dilemma and need a quick fix, if there is one. If not, we'll live with our dilemma until the next release of our documentation. About two years ago, we converted 15 volumes of legacy documentation to PDF after editing the source files in MS Word. The legacy documentation was paginated manually, converted from WordStar or some other program, was comprised of separate files, and was not in any kind of format - had no styles or anything. Automating the books would be more trouble than it was worth (the stuff is being phased out), so we decided to take off the pagination and use Acrobat's page numbers for online reading. We previously received many complaints from clients that the page numbers did not match Acrobat's pagination in the beta test, so we thought we were home free. We are NOW getting calls from clients who want to print portions of the files, using Acrobat's pagination. I can't find any information in the Acrobat documentation that tells me how to do this -perhaps I'm not looking in the right place. Is there any way to make a setting where the books will print with Acrobat page numbers? Or do we need to automatically create page numbers in MS Word again for our next release? Thanks for any info you can give me! Robin Mc2 (McCloud McDonald) Sr. Technical Communicator Information Development Department The FAST Management Group, Inc. Redmond WA www.tfmg.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: List Archives : _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 21:26:26-GMT,2511;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25799 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:26:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10954; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:12:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:09:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10839; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:09:56 -0500 Message-ID: <19980721210943.19881.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [198.245.183.189] From: "joe leopardi" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Networking with Adobe Acrobat Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:09:43 PDT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, I am new to this list so bear with me. What can I do to make Acrobat Exchange v3.01 to be networking friendly? Assuming you are familiar with Office 97, when person A has a shared file opened, when person B tries to open the file, he/she will get a message stating that another user has it open and they may proceed opening the file only as read-only. Through my experience, I have noticed that Exchange does not have that capabilities. If person A has a shared file opened over a NT network, person B, C, D and thereafter can open the file and will not get a message stating that person A has the file open and they can open only as read-only. This promotes a deadlock because not even person A has write access as long as one other person has it open. Is there a plug-in out there to help me out? Is there an additional management program that I can buy that may be able to help me? I have spoken to Acrobat techs and they were stumped. But I know that there has got to be others out there with this problem. Any information will help. Thank You.Sincerely, Joe. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 21:33:30-GMT,4014;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25999 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:33:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10697; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:06:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:04:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10553; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:04:06 -0500 Message-ID: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B183B4AEB@cougar.tfmg.com> From: Robin McCloud Old-To: "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing Page Numbers? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:59:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain List-Software: LetterRip Pro 3.0.1 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe: List-Administrator: List-Archives: List-Guidelines: X-Loop: karlin@rsch.com Old-To: nkarlin@panix.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We are in a bit of a short-term dilemma and need a quick fix, if there is one. If not, we'll live with our dilemma until the next release of our documentation. About two years ago, we converted 15 volumes of legacy documentation to PDF after editing the source files in MS Word. The legacy documentation was paginated manually, converted from WordStar or some other program, was comprised of separate files, and was not in any kind of format - had no styles or anything. Automating the books would be more trouble than it was worth (the stuff is being phased out), so we decided to take off the pagination and use Acrobat's page numbers for online reading. We previously received many complaints from clients that the page numbers did not match Acrobat's pagination in the beta test, so we thought we were home free. We are NOW getting calls from clients who want to print portions of the files, using Acrobat's pagination. I can't find any information in the Acrobat documentation that tells me how to do this -perhaps I'm not looking in the right place. Is there any way to make a setting where the books will print with Acrobat page numbers? Or do we need to automatically create page numbers in MS Word again for our next release? Thanks for any info you can give me! Robin Mc2 (McCloud McDonald) Sr. Technical Communicator Information Development Department The FAST Management Group, Inc. Redmond WA www.tfmg.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: List Archives : _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 23:15:25-GMT,2907;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28596 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:15:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16080; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:00:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:57:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15895; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:57:14 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: , Cc: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Page Numbers? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:52:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdb4fa$d6dd6860$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B183B4AEB@cougar.tfmg.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > About two years ago, we converted 15 volumes of legacy > documentation to PDF > after editing the source files in MS Word. The legacy > documentation was > paginated manually, converted from WordStar or some other program, was > comprised of separate files, and was not in any kind of > format - had no > styles or anything. Automating the books would be more > trouble than it was > worth (the stuff is being phased out), so we decided to take off the > pagination and use Acrobat's page numbers for online reading. > We previously > received many complaints from clients that the page numbers > did not match > Acrobat's pagination in the beta test, so we thought we were > home free. > > We are NOW getting calls from clients who want to print > portions of the > files, using Acrobat's pagination. I can't find any information in the > Acrobat documentation that tells me how to do this -perhaps > I'm not looking > in the right place. Is there any way to make a setting where > the books will > print with Acrobat page numbers? Or do we need to > automatically create page > numbers in MS Word again for our next release? Quite Imposing Plus and Compose can both add numbers to pages, and mask out existing numbers. Aandi Inston Quite Software _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 23:15:28-GMT,3415;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28603 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:15:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16404; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:04:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:02:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16239; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:02:34 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" Old-To: , Cc: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Page Numbers? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:52:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdb4fa$d6dd6860$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B183B4AEB@cougar.tfmg.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > About two years ago, we converted 15 volumes of legacy > documentation to PDF > after editing the source files in MS Word. The legacy > documentation was > paginated manually, converted from WordStar or some other program, was > comprised of separate files, and was not in any kind of > format - had no > styles or anything. Automating the books would be more > trouble than it was > worth (the stuff is being phased out), so we decided to take off the > pagination and use Acrobat's page numbers for online reading. > We previously > received many complaints from clients that the page numbers > did not match > Acrobat's pagination in the beta test, so we thought we were > home free. > > We are NOW getting calls from clients who want to print > portions of the > files, using Acrobat's pagination. I can't find any information in the > Acrobat documentation that tells me how to do this -perhaps > I'm not looking > in the right place. Is there any way to make a setting where > the books will > print with Acrobat page numbers? Or do we need to > automatically create page > numbers in MS Word again for our next release? Quite Imposing Plus and Compose can both add numbers to pages, and mask out existing numbers. Aandi Inston Quite Software _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 23:15:26-GMT,2907;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28597 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:15:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16081; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:00:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:57:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15897; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:57:15 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: , Cc: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Page Numbers? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:52:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdb4fa$d6dd6860$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B183B4AEB@cougar.tfmg.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > About two years ago, we converted 15 volumes of legacy > documentation to PDF > after editing the source files in MS Word. The legacy > documentation was > paginated manually, converted from WordStar or some other program, was > comprised of separate files, and was not in any kind of > format - had no > styles or anything. Automating the books would be more > trouble than it was > worth (the stuff is being phased out), so we decided to take off the > pagination and use Acrobat's page numbers for online reading. > We previously > received many complaints from clients that the page numbers > did not match > Acrobat's pagination in the beta test, so we thought we were > home free. > > We are NOW getting calls from clients who want to print > portions of the > files, using Acrobat's pagination. I can't find any information in the > Acrobat documentation that tells me how to do this -perhaps > I'm not looking > in the right place. Is there any way to make a setting where > the books will > print with Acrobat page numbers? Or do we need to > automatically create page > numbers in MS Word again for our next release? Quite Imposing Plus and Compose can both add numbers to pages, and mask out existing numbers. Aandi Inston Quite Software _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 23:16:20-GMT,3415;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28619 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:16:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16403; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:04:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:02:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16215; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:02:31 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" Old-To: , Cc: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Page Numbers? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:52:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdb4fa$d6dd6860$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <5118F5104FD8D011B1BC006097B00B183B4AEB@cougar.tfmg.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > About two years ago, we converted 15 volumes of legacy > documentation to PDF > after editing the source files in MS Word. The legacy > documentation was > paginated manually, converted from WordStar or some other program, was > comprised of separate files, and was not in any kind of > format - had no > styles or anything. Automating the books would be more > trouble than it was > worth (the stuff is being phased out), so we decided to take off the > pagination and use Acrobat's page numbers for online reading. > We previously > received many complaints from clients that the page numbers > did not match > Acrobat's pagination in the beta test, so we thought we were > home free. > > We are NOW getting calls from clients who want to print > portions of the > files, using Acrobat's pagination. I can't find any information in the > Acrobat documentation that tells me how to do this -perhaps > I'm not looking > in the right place. Is there any way to make a setting where > the books will > print with Acrobat page numbers? Or do we need to > automatically create page > numbers in MS Word again for our next release? Quite Imposing Plus and Compose can both add numbers to pages, and mask out existing numbers. Aandi Inston Quite Software _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 21-Jul-1998 23:59:25-GMT,2588;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29466 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:59:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18483; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:42:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:40:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18350; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:39:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing page numbers: sorry about all the messages Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:39:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bdb500$d07ca8e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509756670@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I still haven't figured out how it is that my single reply to a message turned into five copies (that's how many I got back) but I apologise for the inconvenience. It seems to somehow relate to the original message, which also was posted five times, and this was something to do with CC'ing to the list and sending it to another list and several other people simultaneously. I'd recommend avoiding CC'ing the list; use the list address as the main and only recipient for a message, and especially avoid sending to two lists simultanously; this could cause replies to bounce back and forth between the lists until manually caught and stopped. (I have seen lists acquire hundreds of junk messages because of careless posting). And I'll try to watch the TO field when I hit reply, too. This one is targeted to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com so if more than one copy arrives it's not my fault, I didn't do it, nobody can prove anything. Sorry again (or is it still), Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 0:13:40-GMT,1540;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29748 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:13:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19448; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:03:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:00:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19310; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:00:28 -0500 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256648.0083511A.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:56:13 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Number of pages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Can someone tell me if it is possible to determine the number of pages in a PostScript file, so that I know upfront how many pages there will be in the PDF file after I convert it? Thanks, RJ Jiwungkul Bellcore _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 2:40:30-GMT,2602;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01866 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:40:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24703; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 21:03:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 21:02:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24645; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 21:02:14 -0500 From: "David M. Davisson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Number of pages Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:00:30 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01bdb514$80fefd90$a2456cc7@shadow.pfp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <85256648.0083511A.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Simple! The preamble (header) of the file will contain an entry: %%Pages: (atend) At the end of the file will be entries something like: %%Trailer . . . %%Pages: xxx ------------ David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 4:56 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Number of pages > > > > Can someone tell me if it is possible to determine the number of pages in a > PostScript file, so that I know upfront how many pages there will be in the > PDF file after I convert it? > > Thanks, > > RJ Jiwungkul > Bellcore > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 3:53:30-GMT,2228;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02899 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 21:53:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28738; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:35:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:34:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28621; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:34:02 -0500 From: "Duff Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Networking with Adobe Acrobat Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:30:47 -0700 Message-ID: <000301bdb521$1d8beea0$6701a8c0@laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19980721210943.19881.qmail@hotmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Joe: Sometimes it takes a new voice.... Your point is well taken - and it IS a problem. While on the question of networking with PDF, you might also inquire as to the frailty of large, heaviliy linked PDF files when worked on and saved over a TCP/IP network. The dreaded "Error 21", or similar meaningless equivalent - with it's subsequent irregular inability to Save-As the file - is a FREQUENT vistor to our Exchange stations. The only thing I can think of for you is to tweak the environment somehow - not the PDF and not Exchange. System-regulated dynamic permissions? Um.... I'm leaving now. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 8:45:10-GMT,2053;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07492 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:45:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06127; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 03:24:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 03:20:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05867; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 03:20:03 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Number of pages Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:18:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bdb549$7596d060$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <85256648.0083511A.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > > Can someone tell me if it is possible to determine the number > of pages in a > PostScript file, so that I know upfront how many pages there > will be in the > PDF file after I convert it? > In the general case, the answer is no; it may not even be fixed. %! rand 17 mod 1 add { clippath stroke showpage } Will print between 1 and 17 pages, different every time. Sometimes a file contains a line %%Pages: n and, if this is accurate, it is the page count. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 12:12:06-GMT,2147;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10066 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:12:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA13141; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:42:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:35:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12775; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:35:27 -0500 Message-ID: <330799A9B609D111AFE000609754172C2500D8@pc03485.ina.de> From: Wanka Martin To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Excel and PDF - Error creating PDF Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:37:54 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi we have some problems creating one PDF-file out of a excel-Sheet. The file includes 5 spreadsheets (or worksheets) with tables and graphic-elements. When printed to a HP LaserJet 4 MV the file creates up to three ps-files (three confirmation information windows from Windows NT). The output is correct. When printed to the Acrobat Distiller 3.x there was only one PDF created with two pages - not five pages. Three pages were lost. Can someone give me a helping hand what we can do? Thanks and best regards :-) have a nice day Martin Wanka Produktmanagement Publishing COI GmbH, Industriestrasse 1-3 91074 Herzogenaurach, Germany Tel +49 9132 82 3312, Fax +49 9132 82 2130 Email: wankamrt@coi.ina.de COI Web-Site: http://www.coi.de _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 12:10:48-GMT,2400;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10056 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:10:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA13700; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:54:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:50:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13507; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:50:27 -0500 Message-ID: <35B5D22B.D11FD94E@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:51:08 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Number of pages References: <85256648.0083511A.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com wrote: > > Can someone tell me if it is possible to determine the number of pages in a > PostScript file, so that I know upfront how many pages there will be in the > PDF file after I convert it? In PostScript it is %%Pages, as the others have said, and you are at the mercy of the PostScript provider to create that accurately, if at all. If you don't have much control over the PostScript feeding your process, then just FYI, the page count is available in the PDF file as well, after the fact, although you need to parse it (somewhat). Basically the logic is to parse objects in the PDF file until finding one of type /Pages but with no /Parent key; when this object is found, the value of its /Count key will be the number of pages in the entire document. (See the PDF spec for background.) I wrote a 50-line Perl script that does this, but only on ASCII-format PDF files. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 12:43:53-GMT,3155;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10516 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:43:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15331; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:27:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:23:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15110; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:23:33 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDB54A.25CC5F40.llorber@infodata.com> From: llorber@infodata.com (Lorber, Linda) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Excel and PDF - Error creating PDF Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:24:29 -0400 Organization: Infodata Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Because of varying print zoom factors in your Excel file, the print driver thinks it needs to send 3 PS files to the printer to accommodate the resolutions. The reason that Distiller only creates a file with a couple of the pages is because it is only distilling one of the PS files because that is the only one it is handed (it will be the last one created - the first two are overwritten). Two ways to solve: fix your Excel file so that it prints only one PS file or create the multiple PS files, distill each and merge together in Exchange. Linda Lorber Infodata Systems Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Wanka Martin [SMTP:wankamrt@coi.de] Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 1998 7:38 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Excel and PDF - Error creating PDF Hi we have some problems creating one PDF-file out of a excel-Sheet. The file includes 5 spreadsheets (or worksheets) with tables and graphic-elements. When printed to a HP LaserJet 4 MV the file creates up to three ps-files (three confirmation information windows from Windows NT). The output is correct. When printed to the Acrobat Distiller 3.x there was only one PDF created with two pages - not five pages. Three pages were lost. Can someone give me a helping hand what we can do? Thanks and best regards :-) have a nice day Martin Wanka Produktmanagement Publishing COI GmbH, Industriestrasse 1-3 91074 Herzogenaurach, Germany Tel +49 9132 82 3312, Fax +49 9132 82 2130 Email: wankamrt@coi.ina.de COI Web-Site: http://www.coi.de _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 12:48:11-GMT,2361;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10614 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:48:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15822; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:35:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:31:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15580; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:31:52 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Excel and PDF - Error creating PDF Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:30:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdb56c$a32a5d80$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <330799A9B609D111AFE000609754172C2500D8@pc03485.ina.de> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Hi > > we have some problems creating one PDF-file out of a excel-Sheet. The > file includes 5 spreadsheets (or worksheets) with tables and > graphic-elements. When printed to a HP LaserJet 4 MV the file creates > up > to three ps-files (three confirmation information windows > from Windows > NT). The output is correct. When printed to the Acrobat Distiller 3.x > there was only one PDF created with two pages - not five pages. Three > pages were lost. Can someone give me a helping hand what we can do? > Thanks and best regards :-) have a nice day > Make sure the printer settings are identical in each worksheet; then only one print file should be created. Or, print to file instead of Distiller Assistant, and combine the PDF files. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 17:47:25-GMT,1685;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16738 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:47:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01181; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:17:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:09:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00764; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:09:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001601bdb593$798940a0$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: [PDF] OCR'n a PDF Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:09:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Is there any way (short of printing and scanning) to OCR a pdf that someone else created? i.e. someone created a PDF, but did not OCR it and I would like the text to be vectored and not raster. -Brett _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 18:08:35-GMT,2124;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17191 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:08:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03027; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:50:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:47:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02876; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:47:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] OCR'n a PDF Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:48:46 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Acrobat Exchange 3.0 or higher will do this. The Capture plug-in must be installed. > -----Original Message----- > From: patane@syrres.com [SMTP:patane@syrres.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 1998 1:09 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] OCR'n a PDF > > Is there any way (short of printing and scanning) to OCR a pdf that > someone > else created? i.e. someone created a PDF, but did not OCR it and I > would > like the text to be vectored and not raster. > > -Brett > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 18:36:45-GMT,1963;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17729 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:36:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03938; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:05:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:02:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03762; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:02:32 -0500 Message-ID: <35B62953.596789B7@beacon.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:02:59 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] OCR'n a PDF References: <001601bdb593$798940a0$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com brett patane wrote: > > Is there any way (short of printing and scanning) to OCR a pdf that someone > else created? i.e. someone created a PDF, but did not OCR it and I would > like the text to be vectored and not raster. Have you tried the Capture plug-in in Exchange 3.x? Open the PDF and select Document -> Capture Pages. That will start the Capture plug-in, which is a quick and easy way to do OCR without using the full-blown (albeit more robust) Capture product. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 21:01:10-GMT,65459;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20877 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:01:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12380; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:26:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:18:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11944; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:18:37 -0500 Message-ID: <508A9C6DF871D111B7E400609737950E05EC23@smtp.newseum.org> From: jessica hall To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Bin files Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:27:00 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Is there a way to set distiller up to either prevent it from making pdf.bin files or automaticly convert them to pdfs. Thanks Jess > ---------- > From: Scott Tichenor[SMTP:sticheno@kumc.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 12:45 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Re:pdf-digest for July-21-98 [V2 #274] > > I will be out of the office on July 21-22. > > >>> "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" 07/21/98 11:16 >>> > > pdf-digest Tuesday, July 21 1998 Volume 02 : > Number 274 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > There are 28 messages totalling 2159 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the Day: > > 1. RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript > 2. [PDF] Exiting??? > 3. RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript > 4. Re: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs > 5. Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > 6. Re[2]: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf > 7. [PDF] Global Modification > 8. Re: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf > 9. [PDF] SETTING PDF PROPERTIES TO FIT VISIBLE > 10. RE: [PDF] Global Modification > 11. RE: [PDF] Global Modification > 12. RE: [PDF] TIFF to PDF conversion > 13. Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > 14. Re: [PDF] TIFF to PDF conversion > 15. [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > 16. RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > 17. RE: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf > 18. Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > 19. Re: [PDF] PDF page numbering > 20. Re: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion > 21. RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > 22. Re: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion > 23. RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > 24. [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? > 25. Re: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? > 26. Re: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? > 27. Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > 28. RE: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:27:15 -0400 > From: James Needles > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript > > An interesting situation that I am sure a lot of people been faced > with. > How do you copy you Internet delivered content to a CD-ROM and offer > the > same functionality provided for the Web product. Also, you said that > your entire site is created dynamically, which is the real kicker. > One > solution would be to generated static pages of all the possible > dynamic > combinations of elements. Of course, the sheer number of combinations > and the lack of CD-ROM space may very quickly count this out, as well > as > the loss of some functionality. Another way to do it is to provide > personal web server software and the content database to your > customers > to install on their machines (essentially copying your Web site > architecture). However, this soon turns into a quagmire of user > support > issues, e.g., customer don't have powerful enough machines to > dynamically create pages fast enough, customers have machine > configuration problems, not enough disk space, RAM, etc.. Or, you can > rethink the deliver of you content on CD-ROM. It may be easier to > provide an application that is entirely PDF. Before you make a > decision > you might want to check out some of the current CD publishing packages > out there, they may have some intermediate solution that may fill your > needs. > > Good Luck. > > James Needles > > > > > ---------- > > From: Ikonos[SMTP:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 1998 4:14 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] PDF + javascript > > > > PDF + javascript > > > > > > Kindest all, > > I have the following situation: > > > > A framed site using an horizontal frame > > on the top. > > > > We then have within the site a "Library" with a number of PDF docs > > which can be viewed (with byteserving) or downloaded. > > If the user chooses to view, the PDF document is displayed within > the > > Netscape browser window, through the Reader 3.01 plug-in. > > > > As the user seees the PDF doc displayed, s(he) can still see the top > > > navigation frame of the Web site in which there are all the main > > links- > > buttons to the Web site different areas. > > > > While on-line the user can then click and link back directly to any > > part of the Web site (having the PDF displayed and clicking on buton > > bar on HTML page), my production webmaster tells me this will not > work > > in the oof-line CD-ROM version we are finishing in these next few > > days. > > > > He tells me that if he could handle a Javascript through the PDF he > > would > > be able to pull it off, but otherwise not. > > From what I can understand, he needs those Web buttons-links to stay > > active as in the on-line version, but while on the Web he can do it, > > > he cannot do it offline. > > > > Let it be said that the whole web site is dynamically generated from > > > a database and so we can't provide normal links, but all CGI > requests. > > > > Anybody would be able to tell us if and how it would be possible to > > handle this on the CD-ROM? > > > > > > (If you think it helps, you can get an idea of the top frame by > > looking > > at > > http://dad.fao.org/home.tm, but you will not be allowed > > to enter without a password. You must also view -at the moment- > > with Netscape 4.04 or higher) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -- > > > > Luigi Canali-De-Rossi I K O N O > S > > managing director M u l t i m e d i > a > > > > Rome, > Italy > > > mailto:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it > > Telephone 039 6 > 33.50.365 > > Facsimile 039 6 > 33.11.946 > > . . . . > . > > Strategic creativity for new media projects development, > > for research, education and information-based institutions, > worldwide > > > > "Think strategy, before technology" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:37:44 -0400 > From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" > Subject: [PDF] Exiting??? > > I use a custom frontend to bring up manuals in PDF and SGML by > launching the appropriate browsers, etc... I do this to try and > leave the functionallity of the browsers as > Commercial-Off-The-Shelf (COTS) and this, in turn, leaves the > full windows functionallity. This software is run on Windows NT > 4.0 machines and I deliver the Reader w/Search install on the CD. > > The problem I have occurs when a user minimizes the window, as > oppose to closing the browser (i.e. Reader). The frontend > software will continue on, and this doesn't cause a problem with > looking at documents since I open the documents using the Windows > API of 'ShellExecute' to open a PDF, and let the Reader software > handle the interface. However, when the user closes the frontend > software, if the Reader has been minimized, the frontend software > will close and leave the Reader available on the Taskbar. This > isn't a major problem but I do like to clean up after myself. I > know that I can use the Windows API to search for active > instances of the Reader and close them down. It has been > suggested that a clean way to do this would be to send an 'exit' > or 'close' message to the Adobe Reader application/window. > > Does anyone have any examples of sending such a command to the > Reader or Exchange applications??? If not, does anyone have any > other suggestions on how to exit gracefully??? I would > appreciate any code snippets that anyone has. > > TIA, > > Tracie > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Tracie DeVoe > Logistic Services International > 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 > Elizabeth City, NC 27909 > > PH#: (252) 335-6239 > FAX: (252) 335-6463 > email: tdevoe@lsijax.com > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:44:37 -0400 > From: "Czajka, Mark" > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript > > We use WebCD, but it doesn't handle the dynamic stuff. I would like to > see Alaire offer a CD version of their product. It would be awesome to > do Cold Fusion type searches from CD. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Needles [SMTP:JimN@www.citinc.com] > > Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 9:27 AM > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF + javascript > > > > An interesting situation that I am sure a lot of people been faced > > with. > > How do you copy you Internet delivered content to a CD-ROM and offer > > the > > same functionality provided for the Web product. Also, you said > that > > your entire site is created dynamically, which is the real kicker. > > One > > solution would be to generated static pages of all the possible > > dynamic > > combinations of elements. Of course, the sheer number of > combinations > > and the lack of CD-ROM space may very quickly count this out, as > well > > as > > the loss of some functionality. Another way to do it is to provide > > personal web server software and the content database to your > > customers > > to install on their machines (essentially copying your Web site > > architecture). However, this soon turns into a quagmire of user > > support > > issues, e.g., customer don't have powerful enough machines to > > dynamically create pages fast enough, customers have machine > > configuration problems, not enough disk space, RAM, etc.. Or, you > can > > rethink the deliver of you content on CD-ROM. It may be easier to > > provide an application that is entirely PDF. Before you make a > > decision > > you might want to check out some of the current CD publishing > packages > > out there, they may have some intermediate solution that may fill > your > > needs. > > > > Good Luck. > > > > James Needles > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Ikonos[SMTP:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it] > > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 1998 4:14 AM > > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > Subject: [PDF] PDF + javascript > > > > > > PDF + javascript > > > > > > > > > Kindest all, > > > I have the following situation: > > > > > > A framed site using an horizontal frame > > > on the top. > > > > > > We then have within the site a "Library" with a number of PDF docs > > > which can be viewed (with byteserving) or downloaded. > > > If the user chooses to view, the PDF document is displayed within > > the > > > Netscape browser window, through the Reader 3.01 plug-in. > > > > > > As the user seees the PDF doc displayed, s(he) can still see the > top > > > > > navigation frame of the Web site in which there are all the main > > > links- > > > buttons to the Web site different areas. > > > > > > While on-line the user can then click and link back directly to > any > > > part of the Web site (having the PDF displayed and clicking on > buton > > > bar on HTML page), my production webmaster tells me this will not > > work > > > in the oof-line CD-ROM version we are finishing in these next few > > > days. > > > > > > He tells me that if he could handle a Javascript through the PDF > he > > > would > > > be able to pull it off, but otherwise not. > > > From what I can understand, he needs those Web buttons-links to > stay > > > active as in the on-line version, but while on the Web he can do > it, > > > > > he cannot do it offline. > > > > > > Let it be said that the whole web site is dynamically generated > from > > > > > a database and so we can't provide normal links, but all CGI > > requests. > > > > > > Anybody would be able to tell us if and how it would be possible > to > > > handle this on the CD-ROM? > > > > > > > > > (If you think it helps, you can get an idea of the top frame by > > > looking > > > at > > > http://dad.fao.org/home.tm, but you will not be allowed > > > to enter without a password. You must also view -at the moment- > > > with Netscape 4.04 or higher) > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Luigi Canali-De-Rossi I K O N O > > S > > > managing director M u l t i m e d > i > > a > > > > > > Rome, > > Italy > > > > > mailto:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it > > > Telephone 039 6 > > 33.50.365 > > > Facsimile 039 6 > > 33.11.946 > > > . . . . > > . > > > Strategic creativity for new media projects development, > > > for research, education and information-based institutions, > > worldwide > > > > > > "Think strategy, before technology" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:00:45 -0400 > From: "Robert E. Moran" > Subject: Re: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs > > Check out Muscat at www.muscat.com. Tres cool search engine. > > Bob Moran > > Schiff, Kenny wrote: > > > Sorry to ask this question again, but I'm still not sure which way > to > > go. > > > > We've just finished converting our entire tech manual library to PDF > and > > are in the process of organizing our Extranet website to accomodate > > them. The missing piece is a search engine. > > > > We're running IIS 3.0. > > > > The box uses NT's security to secure file areas. Users have access > to > > files based on NT permissions. Users get authenticated on login. > > > > I need a way to index the site, but also to filter hits based on > login. > > > > I just priced Verity's Search 97, and they want big $ for it. Has > anyone > > used InfoSeeks's Ultraseek Server? what about Cascade's Mediasphere? > > Also, anyone succesfully implement the free Ifitler with MS Index > > server? > > > > Also, Verity makes an interesting product that puts your website on > a CD > > with a scaled down version of the search engine embedded. We are > > publishing CDs too, and have been building an alternative PDF > front-end > > for it. It would be much easier to just port over the website to the > CD. > > Verity's prices are outrageous for a mid-sized niche company like > ours, > > so I was wondering if others are making a similar product at a more > > reasonabl price tag. > > > > Kenny Schiff > > > > Kenny Schiff > > Director Corporate Communications > > Rauland-Borg Corporation > > http://www.rauland.com > > kenny.schiff@rauland.com > > <> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > Kenny Schiff (E-mail) > > Director of Corporate Communications > > Rauland-Borg Corporation > > > > Kenny Schiff (E-mail) > > Director of Corporate Communications > > Rauland-Borg Corporation > > 3450 West Oakton Work Voice: (847) 679-0900 > x395 > > Skokie > > IL > > 60076 > > United States of America > > Additional Information: > > Version 2.1 > > Last Name Schiff > > First NameKenny > > Label Work3450 West Oakton Skokie, IL 60076 United States of > America > > Revision 19980716T213912Z > > > > - -- > Robert E. Moran > Digital Constructs Inc. > 759 North Park Avenue > Redding, CT 06896 > Tel 203-452-1116 > 203-452-8085 > Fax: 203-452-0416 > E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com > URL: www.dconstructs.com > ôConfusion is a misapprehension of a higher orderö ű Henry Miller > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:21:51 -0700 > From: sgililland@nexstar.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. > > > > > "Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM > > Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) > Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > > > > I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am > using > EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming > convention > (8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special > characters in > my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's > own > 8.3 > filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming > convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with > Explorer > showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD > resident > file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! > Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 > filename > that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? > TIA > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 98 11:57:17 -0500 > From: pweddle@ntmail.cpsc.gov > Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf > > I have recently converted over 20,000 TIFF's to PDF using > RTSImport. > It works well on any image type that can be imported into > Exchange. > For the money, you can't beat it. > > Pat > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > Subject: RE: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf > Author: at INTERNET-MAIL > Date: 7/18/98 11:55 AM > > > Sam: > > > I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to > PDF. > > The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed > using > > Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. > 4. > > Thanks guys! > > If your TIFFs are document images, ESPECIALLY if they're 300 dpi, your > vendor did you a favor. Uncompressed (the way Photoshop likes 'em), > your > "couple thousand TIFFs" would likely consume most of a 4 gig hard > drive! G4 > compression is lossless and can reduce file size by a factor of 20... > > > What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using > Win > > NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. > > Are they single or multi-page TIFFs? If single, do you need them > compiled > into multi-page PDFs? Different solutions apply in different cases... > > > I found that this works rather well but... > > > > C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps > > Hmm. I doubt it, but.... whatever! I guess I've never tried that. > > > ... what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the > > background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. > > Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? > > Try RTSImport. It does most of what you want, I think. Or, if your > conversion is a one-time event, AND if your documents are generally > under 15 > pages long, you could use Exchange's File-Import command. It's > manual, but > cheap (free), drop-dead easy, right there is Exchange, and it permits > onvertion and collation at the same time. > > Duff Johnson > Document Solutions, Inc. > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:57:13 -0500 > From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" > Subject: [PDF] Global Modification > > Does anyone know of a way to automatically replace the color of all > links in > a PDF document? > > Example: I have a PDF document with visible links that are red. The > customer > would prefer black. > > Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions are very welcome! > > Kevin Farrell > Lucent Technologies > mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:28:19 -0400 > From: olaf druemmer > Subject: Re: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf > > Sam, > > we are currently about to extend our pdfBatchMeister tool so that it > converts TIFF files to PDF (though you will still need Distiller). > > If you could provide me with a few samples of your files, we could run > a > test and verify it works with your kind of files, and I would send you > a > beta. > > Best Regards, > > Olaf Druemmer > > > > > >I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to > PDF. > >The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed > using > >Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. > 4. > >Thanks guys! > > > >What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using > Win > >NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. > > > >I found that this works rather well but... > > > >C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps > > > >... what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the > >background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. > >Could anyone help? Is there a plug in? > > > >TIA > > > >Sam > > > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Olaf Druemmer > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 > Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect > +49.30.44342391 > D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': > http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:52:44 -0400 > From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com > Subject: [PDF] SETTING PDF PROPERTIES TO FIT VISIBLE > > I'am working with a 12 chapter pdf document and I have set the > properties > on each chapter to open "Fit Visible". Each chapter is a separate > PDF > file and all chapters can be accessed through bookmarks which were > added to > each PDF chapter. The problem I have is that when I click on the > bookmark > to open a chapter the PDF document opens "Fit Width" (I believe) not > "Fit > Visible". I have even tried to set the Page Action on each chapter to > open > "Fit Visible" still no luck. Once the bookmark is clicked and the > chapter > is opened (incorrectly) if you click on the bookmarked chapter # of > the > current chapter that is opened it will resize the window to "Fit > Visible" > > > Can you open a document "Fit Visible and if so how? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:53:02 +0100 > From: "Aandi Inston" > Subject: RE: [PDF] Global Modification > > > > > Does anyone know of a way to automatically replace the color > > of all links in > > a PDF document? > > > > Example: I have a PDF document with visible links that are > > red. The customer > > would prefer black. > > > I don't believe so. It is on my list of "nice plug-ins to > write one day". An "all text to black" plug-in would actually > be much simpler and might get written sooner. > > Aandi > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:11:44 -0500 > From: "Mera, Jose" > Subject: RE: [PDF] Global Modification > > Alliant Techsystems' LinkManager(tm) is an Adobe Acrobat plug-in > designed to do exactly that. Please visit our website for > information, > contact me directly offline for any information and/or purchase. > > Jose Mera > Business Area Manager > Alliant Techsystems > 13133 34th Street North > Clearwater, FL 33762 > Voice: (727)572-2491 <-- new area code > WWW: http://ais.atk.com > > > ---------- > > From: Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)[SMTP:kfarrell@lucent.com] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 11:57 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Cc: 'srpearson@lucent.com' > > Subject: [PDF] Global Modification > > > > Does anyone know of a way to automatically replace the color of all > > links in > > a PDF document? > > > > Example: I have a PDF document with visible links that are red. The > > customer > > would prefer black. > > > > Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions are very welcome! > > > > Kevin Farrell > > Lucent Technologies > > mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:34:21 -0700 > From: "Jessup, Samuel" > Subject: RE: [PDF] TIFF to PDF conversion > > Thank you to all who answered so speedily. The answer I will use for > now > is the one in front of my face; The File|Import feature. I cannot > believe that I did not consider that. I also appreciated suggestions > for > plug-ins. My budget next year will definitely include a few... I am > quite new at the PDF thang. > > The best thing about this list is the fact that you are all so quick > to > offer help. > > Thanks again. > > Sam Jessup > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:40:25 -0500 > From: "Greg Pauba" > Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > Since it is a Windows 3.1 application, how does it handle Windows 95 > long > filenames? > > Greg > - -----Original Message----- > From: sgililland@nexstar.com > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 10:19 AM > Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > > >We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. > > > > > > > > > >"Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM > > > >Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) > >Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > > > > > > > > >I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am > using > >EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming > convention > >(8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special > characters in > >my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's > own > >8.3 > >filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming > >convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with > Explorer > >showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD > resident > >file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! > >Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 > >filename > >that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? > >TIA > >Greg > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:15:24 -0700 > From: "C. Scott Miller" > Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF to PDF conversion > > >Thank you to all who answered so speedily. The answer I will use for > now > >is the one in front of my face; The File|Import feature. > > If you are considering that, then consider using Photoshop (4.x or > above). I > have always found saving from Photoshop to PDF superior to File/Import > - > smaller PDF files. Plus, you can create an action in Photoshop to > automate > the process. > > C. Scott Miller > > PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n > A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format > http://www.performancegraphics.com > > a production of Performance Graphics > miller@performancegraphics.com > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:13:16 +0100 > From: "ian joslin" > Subject: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > > This list amazes me with the quickfire response - I couldn't resist > trying > out a first query: > > Assuming I have a document originated in Pagemaker or Quark, saved to > PDF. > > Assuming that the 'original PM or Quark' file has unrecorded > subsequent > changes, once again saved to PDF. > > ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of highlighting or > flagging > up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by > search/comparison > of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? > > Ian J > Production Consultant > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:31:31 -0700 > From: Duff Johnson > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > > Ian: > > > This list amazes me with the quickfire response - I couldn't > > resist trying > > out a first query: > > Don't abuse us! :-) > > Actually, I agree with you.... this is just a fantastic list, the best > tech list I know, far and away. > > > Assuming I have a document originated in Pagemaker or Quark, > > saved to PDF. > > > > Assuming that the 'original PM or Quark' file has unrecorded > > subsequent > > changes, once again saved to PDF. > > > > ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of > > highlighting or flagging > > up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by > > search/comparison > > of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? > > Yuck. I'd rather deal with version control at the source-app end, > frankly. > > ...which is another way of saying that I am unaware of any utility to > meet your needs. > > Duff Johnson > Document Solutions, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:42:54 +0800 > From: Min Chen > Subject: RE: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf > > - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDB49C.B695A440 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Just saw this message. Actually I just wrote a VB program to convert = > Tiff files to PDF files, it reads Tiff files from one drive and create > = > the same directory structure in the destination drive, it also allows > = > you to specify from which subdirectory you want converstion to start. > I = > used PDF writer to do the job. It is pity I can not simply give it > away = > since there is a commercial image control used in the program. > > - -----Original Message----- > From: Jessup, Samuel [SMTP:Samuel.Jessup@lfr.com] > Sent: Saturday, 18 July 1998 8:30 > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] converting TIFF to pdf > > I am in the process of converting a couple thousand TIFF files to PDF. > The files were scanned by a vendor some time back and compressed using > Group IV compression method which is incompatible with PhotoShop v. 4. > Thanks guys! > > What I would really like to do is type in a DOS command (I'm using Win > NT) and convert the whole lot in the background automatically. > > I found that this works rather well but... > > C:\copy filename.tif \distasst.ps > > .. what would really be helpful is to have Distiller run in the > background, automatically saving ALL of them to a specified folder. > Could anyone help? 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------ =_NextPart_000_01BDB49C.B695A440-- > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 20:48:59 -0700 > From: Lynda Schrumpf > Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > We use Adaptec Easy CD 3.01a and publish 2000 pdf files plus the > catalog 3.0 > index using a windows 95 machine to an HP CD Writer and the CD Search > fine and > the file names are the same as on the PC windows 8.3 name. > > Hope that helps. > > sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > > > We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. > > > > "Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM > > > > Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) > > Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > > > I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am > using > > EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming > convention > > (8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special > characters in > > my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created it's > own > > 8.3 > > filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming > > convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with > Explorer > > showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD > resident > > file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! > > Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 > > filename > > that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? > > TIA > > Greg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:09:08 -0700 > From: Scott Hamlow > Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF page numbering > > Unfortunately, there is not. > > You could either redo your page numbering so it is seqential to > Acrobat's > (it is always seqential from page 1 of ANY document). > > Or you could do what we have done with our user docs and that is to > explain > up front this limitation and how to deal with it. We use complex page > numbering > (1-1, 1-2, etc.) and our users didn't mind the difference in page > numbering > styles, provided they knew of the differences up fron. > > At 05:59 PM 7/19/98 +0300, you wrote: > >I have a user's manual in PDF format with a table of contents > numbered > >using Roman numerals (the first chapter of the book begins with page > 1). > >When I view my PDF document using Acrobat Exchange, the document's > page > >numbers do not correspond with Acrobat Exchange's page numbers (which > >appear at the bottom of the screen). Apparently Acrobat Exchange > starts > >"counting" page numbers at the beginning of the document -- including > the > >table of contents. > > > >This is especially problematic when you want to print a range of > pages (for > >example, a chapter of the book). If you look at the table of > contents, and > >choose a range of pages to print, the actual range of pages printed > is > >different (offset by the table of contents pages). Is there a > solution for > >this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:07:17 +0100 > From: "Nic Plum" > Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion > > From personal experience exporting to HTML from PageMaker isn't a good > option - it's slow and the results can be quirky. It's not the basis > for an automatic or semi-automatic process. > > Does the starting point have to be PageMaker? It seems to make the > changes/conversion/add-ins for the source application rather than > post-process the Acrobat result but you do have other choices if, for > example you can convert directly from Word. It may be worth looking at > the w3 org page for style sheets (www.w3.org/Style/CSS/) where there > is at least one add-in for Word that will produce HTML output with a > Cascading Style Sheet (giving you better control over the appearance). > You can then use a standard web search engine/indexer or, if you're > keen enough, get some simple JavaScript or similar to do this part for > you. > > Nic. > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > > Huntingdon, For information management and > Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from > UK. within your favourite > PE18 9SZ wordprocessor > _____________________________________________________________________ > - -----Original Message----- > From: John Duggan > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Date: 20 July 1998 10:03 > Subject: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion > > > > >How can I incorporate a search engine which can index and search the > >whole document and be updated every month? > >Are we talking cgi here? > >Are there off-the-shelf solutions? > > > >Also: > > > >Are there any PDF to HTML solutions > >Does the PageMaker 'export to HTML' have any value? > >Are there any clear disadvantages in choosing HTML rather than PDF? > > > > > >Please Cc your replies, as I am on the digest. > >Thanks in advance, > > > > > >John Duggan > > > >Electronic Publishing Manager > >Smart Works Ltd. > > > >Safety Management and Resource Training > >for the Construction Industry > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:20:32 +0100 > From: "David Cornwell" > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > > > ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of > > highlighting or flagging > > up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by > > search/comparison > > of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? > > There is a utility called P/comp available from: > > Bob Radtke, Pegasus Global, 2066 59th St N, Clearwater, FL 33760, USA > VOICE & FAX: 1-813-531-8205 > e-mail:rradtke@gte.net > > No commercial interest on my part and we have never put it through its > paces - although I have heard that it works! > > drc > - --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:39:14 -0400 > From: "Jane Edwards" > Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion > > - ---------- > : From: John Duggan > : To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > : Subject: [PDF] PDF file in dramatic HTML conversion > : Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 4:30 AM > : > I create a publication once a month in PageMaker > and convert it to HTML. It's a good start and puts in > a lot of the html codes, but I continue working on it > in FrontPage to fine-tune it. If you have created the > publication in PageMaker already and need to put it > in html, yes, by all means use the converter. > > If you are trying to get text directly into html, don't > put it in PageMaker first. > > : Are there any PDF to HTML solutions > : Does the PageMaker 'export to HTML' have any value? > : Are there any clear disadvantages in choosing HTML rather than PDF? > : > : John Duggan > : > : Electronic Publishing Manager > : Smart Works Ltd. > : > : Safety Management and Resource Training > : for the Construction Industry > : > : > : > : _______________________________________________ > : > : -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > : * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > : "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > : _______________________________________________ > : > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:21:32 -0500 > From: "Mera, Jose" > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > > PComp from Radtke Consulting is a plug-in that compares two PDFs. > More > info on actual functionality can be gotten from Radtke Consulting via: > > Robert Radtke > 727-531-8205 > rradtke@gte.net > > > Jose Mera > Business Area Manager > Alliant Techsystems > 13133 34th Street North > Clearwater, FL 33762 > Voice: (727)572-2491 <-- new area code > WWW: http://ais.atk.com > > > ---------- > > From: ian joslin[SMTP:murrayjoslin@email.msn.com] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 5:13 PM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] PDF file comparison plug-in? > > > > This list amazes me with the quickfire response - I couldn't resist > > trying > > out a first query: > > > > Assuming I have a document originated in Pagemaker or Quark, saved > to > > PDF. > > > > Assuming that the 'original PM or Quark' file has unrecorded > > subsequent > > changes, once again saved to PDF. > > > > ? Question ? Is there anything out there capable of highlighting or > > flagging > > up the differences between the two PDF files (perhaps by > > search/comparison > > of the PostScript - thereby covering not only text alterations)? > > > > Ian J > > Production Consultant > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:25:22 +0100 > From: Jason Creak > Subject: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? > > Hi, > > Is there a utility that allows Acrobat Form fields to be moved from > document to document - for example if the base document has been > re-distilled? > > Recreating them is such a pain...... > > Thanks, > > Jason Creak > > - ------ > Engineering Development > IS Solutions Plc > +44 (0)1932 893333 > http://www.issolutions.co.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:00:59 +0200 > From: Max Wyss > Subject: Re: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? > > Jason, > > there are a few possibilities. > > The first one would be to include the form field information into the > source document. You can do this by placing very basic EPS files > containing > the PDFMARK command for the form field into your document. If the > document > preparation software supports PostScript elements (such as > FrameMaker's > PostScript flows), you can also place the whole group of these > commands in > such a flow. When you distill the documents, the form fields will be > there. > You will need the PDFMARK Reference Manual (also known as Adobe Tech > Note > 5051, available either on the Acrobat 3.01 CD, or downloadable from > the > developer section of Adobe's website), and the Portable Document > Format > Reference Manual (available from the same sources). > > The other possibility is using Exchange with the Acrobat Forms 3.5 > Author > plug-in, which allows copying and pasting fields between pages and > documents. > > Hope, this can help. > > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering AG > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com > > > Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... > > ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at > > http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html > > > > > _____________ > > > > > >Hi, > > > >Is there a utility that allows Acrobat Form fields to be moved from > >document to document - for example if the base document has been > >re-distilled? > > > >Recreating them is such a pain...... > > > >Thanks, > > > >Jason Creak > > > >------ > >Engineering Development > >IS Solutions Plc > >+44 (0)1932 893333 > >http://www.issolutions.co.uk > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:09:08 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) > From: "Michael L. Jewell" > Subject: Re: [PDF] How to Move Form Fields? > > On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:25:22 +0100 Jason Creak > wrote: > > > > Is there a utility that allows Acrobat Form fields to be moved from > > document to document - for example if the base document has been > > re-distilled? > > > > Jason, > > Leave the fields alone and replace the document with the > Document / Replace-Pages function. > - -- > Mike Jewell mlj3u@virginia.edu 804-982-2175 > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:39:35 -0500 > From: "Greg Pauba" > Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > Lynda, > > Did you start with Win95 Long File Names? > > Thanks, > Greg > - -----Original Message----- > From: Lynda Schrumpf > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 11:04 PM > Subject: Re: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > > > >We use Adaptec Easy CD 3.01a and publish 2000 pdf files plus the > catalog > 3.0 > >index using a windows 95 machine to an HP CD Writer and the CD Search > fine > and > >the file names are the same as on the PC windows 8.3 name. > > > >Hope that helps. > > > >sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > > > >> We use Netscribe with Win3.1. So far, it's worked well. > >> > >> "Greg Pauba" on 07/19/98 05:30:32 AM > >> > >> Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >> > >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >> cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) > >> Subject: [PDF] Cataloging & CD Writing > >> > >> I have been trying to write Acrobat Cataloged images to a CD. I am > using > >> EasyCD Pro 95 Version 1.1 and writing it using the Joliet naming > convention > >> (8.3 DOS & 95 Long File Names) I eliminated all the special > characters > in > >> my long file names but when I publish the CD EasyCD Pro created > it's own > >> 8.3 > >> filenames. For some reason it doesn't follow the 8.3 file naming > >> convention of Windows 95. I had a file called 'Oct 5_1979' with > Explorer > >> showing 'OCT5_1~1.PDF' for the DOS Filename, the name of the CD > resident > >> file was 'OCT5~386.PDF'! > >> Does anyone use a CD Publishing package that maintains the same 8.3 > >> filename > >> that Windows 95 does so that Catalog works? > >> TIA > >> Greg > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > >> * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > >> "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > >> * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > >> "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:03:45 -0400 > From: Kevin Wagner > Subject: RE: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs > > Have you looked at the Adobe PDF I Filter??? No Cost but some > integration > time. Allows indexing using Microsoft Index server. Will then allow > full > text search on all PDF 's indexed as well as the Doc Info fields. > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] > Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 1:01 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] WTD: Opinions on Search Engines for PDFs > > Sorry to ask this question again, but I'm still not sure which way to > go. > > We've just finished converting our entire tech manual library to PDF > and > are in the process of organizing our Extranet website to accomodate > them. The missing piece is a search engine. > > We're running IIS 3.0. > > The box uses NT's security to secure file areas. Users have access to > files based on NT permissions. Users get authenticated on login. > > I need a way to index the site, but also to filter hits based on > login. > > I just priced Verity's Search 97, and they want big $ for it. Has > anyone > used InfoSeeks's Ultraseek Server? what about Cascade's Mediasphere? > Also, anyone succesfully implement the free Ifitler with MS Index > server? > > Also, Verity makes an interesting product that puts your website on a > CD > with a scaled down version of the search engine embedded. We are > publishing CDs too, and have been building an alternative PDF > front-end > for it. It would be much easier to just port over the website to the > CD. > Verity's prices are outrageous for a mid-sized niche company like > ours, > so I was wondering if others are making a similar product at a more > reasonabl price tag. > > Kenny Schiff > > Kenny Schiff > Director Corporate Communications > Rauland-Borg Corporation > http://www.rauland.com > kenny.schiff@rauland.com > <> > > << File: Kenny Schiff (E-mail).vcf >> > > _______________________________________________ > > - -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > End of pdf-digest V2 #274 > ************************* > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 21:40:44-GMT,2884;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21946 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:40:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15436; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:17:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:12:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15077; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:12:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <508A9C6DF871D111B7E400609737950E05EC23@smtp.newseum.org> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:11:22 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Bin files - STOP! 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Leave ONLY enough of the previous message to provide needed context for your reply. ************** PLEASE avoid future mishaps such as this one. tks ~ your friendly list administrator === >Is there a way to set distiller up to either prevent it from making >pdf.bin files or automaticly convert them to pdfs. > > >Thanks >Jess > >> ---------- >> From: Scott Tichenor[SMTP:sticheno@kumc.edu] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 12:45 PM >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Subject: [PDF] Re:pdf-digest for July-21-98 [V2 #274] >> >> >>> "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" 07/21/98 11:16 >>> >> >> pdf-digest Tuesday, July 21 1998 Volume 02 : >> Number 274 __________________________________________________ * T h e P D F z o n e * __________________________________________________ (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com ------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 22-Jul-1998 22:04:23-GMT,2325;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22596 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:04:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17656; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:46:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:43:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17371; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:43:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199807221831.LAA23111@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:34:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] OCR'n a PDF From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >Is there any way (short of printing and scanning) to OCR a pdf that someone >else created? i.e. someone created a PDF, but did not OCR it and I would >like the text to be vectored and not raster. Raster PDF's are easy to convert to vector if the image is of sufficient quality. It requires using the Capture Plug-in which is free with Exchange (latest version is downloadable at http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/macapreg.html). For instructions, check out http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/compcapt.html. If you wish to do something with the OCR text after conversion, use the Select Text tool - see http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/usehtml.html#Text. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 0:19:58-GMT,2329;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25260 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:19:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23688; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:52:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:48:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23450; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:48:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199807222025.NAA17742@cuckoo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:28:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] OCR'n a PDF From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >Is there any way (short of printing and scanning) to OCR a pdf that someone >else created? i.e. someone created a PDF, but did not OCR it and I would >like the text to be vectored and not raster. Raster PDF's are easy to convert to vector if the image is of sufficient quality. It requires using the Capture Plug-in which is free with Exchange (latest version is downloadable at http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/macapreg.html). For instructions, check out http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/compcapt.html. If you wish to do something with the OCR text after conversion, use the Select Text tool - see http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/usehtml.html#Text. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 0:20:27-GMT,1704;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25275 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:20:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24163; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:00:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:58:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24040; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:58:14 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825664A.00003D2D.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:06:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF]Changing bookmark properties Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I know this has been discussed, and I apologize for not being able to put my fingers on the information given previously - info is urgently needed! The problem: Several thousand pdf pages with bookmarks that are set to open "default". The bookmarks need to be changed to "fit visible". Is there a plug-in that will do this in batch mode? Thanks for your patience. SueG _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 0:45:00-GMT,2773;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25728 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:44:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25942; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:30:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:27:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25771; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:27:47 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199807222025.NAA17742@cuckoo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Message: http:/www.WorldEnergy.com Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:27:05 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hugh Evans Subject: [PDF] NT install issues, etc Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Am I glad that I found this list. Am a new user who put the Adobe sw software down for a while but have the hots to use it again. It was about a month ago when I installed the full Acrobat distribution onto an NT4.0 system (this was off the NT4.0 upgrade from Adobe) - If memory serves me correctly I was warned that some functions are inoperable because some PS fonts are missing (or something to that effect). My question is - are the fonts on the Adobe CD.... or on the NT CD. I can't seem to find them. Any advice would be appreciated. If and when I find these fonts - will I have to uninstall Acrobat, install the fonts and then reinstall Acrobat? Are there any secrets for creating .pdf files from tiff files - I tend to get a compression of only 10%. ie 10 megs to 9 megs. Should I convert the tiff to an intermediate file format prior to converting to .eps/PS. Am trying to achieve greater compression.... Is there a non-Adobe FAQ for PDF This is off subject - but I am trying to convert CGM+ (not CGM) files to PS - so that they can be distilled. However, I have not been able to find a conversion solution. I have tried Debabilizer, Photoshop, Graphic Converter etc. with no luck. The sw that I am trying to get an image from does not output to a printer but outputs a .cgm file that another program spools to the printer. Thanks very much. Hugh Evans _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 0:59:34-GMT,2261;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26030 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26738; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:45:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:43:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26578; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:43:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199807221742.KAA01040@egret.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:44:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] OCR'n a PDF From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >Is there any way (short of printing and scanning) to OCR a pdf that someone >else created? i.e. someone created a PDF, but did not OCR it and I would >like the text to be vectored and not raster. > >-Brett Assuming you have the free Capture Plug-in for Exchange installed (available at http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/macapreg.html), you can easily convert a raster PDF to vector. See instructions at http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/compcapt.html. If you need to take this text into another program then use the Select Text tool (http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/usehtml.html#Text). C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 1:44:49-GMT,2599;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26885 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:44:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29032; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 20:26:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Jul 1998 20:21:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28694; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 20:21:38 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980723012145.00d83068@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:21:45 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] OCR'n a PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I thought I'd try this myself, so I used Exchange to extract a single page of PDF that contains a scan of a page of text (from today's US Federal Register). Then, in Exchange, I selected "Document>Capture Pages" and accepted the default Capture settings. I can't seem to get past the message: "This page has graphics other than images or text on it. It cannot be captured." Can anyone explain what this message means? And what, if anything, can be done about it? Thanks, Tom Thiersch At 01:28 PM 7/22/98 -0700, you wrote: >>Is there any way (short of printing and scanning) to OCR a pdf that someone >>else created? i.e. someone created a PDF, but did not OCR it and I would >>like the text to be vectored and not raster. > >Raster PDF's are easy to convert to vector if the image is of sufficient >quality. It requires using the Capture Plug-in which is free with Exchange >(latest version is downloadable at >http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/macapreg.html). > >C. Scott Miller > >PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n >A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format >http://www.performancegraphics.com > >a production of Performance Graphics >miller@performancegraphics.com > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 8:54:52-GMT,3871;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA05994 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 02:54:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA13419; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:33:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:29:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13165; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:29:05 -0500 Message-ID: <000201bdb613$01a0ef40$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: "Nic Plum" To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] Can Someone Help - LinePrinterPC Font Problem Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:53:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I received the following plea for help but the finer points of supported fonts and postscript settings are beyond me. Is there anyone else on the list who can help identify a workable solution? Answers to Sally Summa at ssumma@devtools.com please. Cheers. Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Sally Summa To: 'nic@nplum.demon.co.uk' Date: 21 July 1998 16:51 Subject: Fellow AcroBuddy looking for help >Nic, > >Sorry to bother you. I found you on AcroBuddies as one of the few who >mentioned >Microsoft Word. I'm not sure if you can help me with this question, but >I've posted my >question a few weeks on newsgroups without response. Any suggestion >would be >helpful. > >Best Regards, >Sally Summa > >LinePrinterPC font in Postscript >I've converted several large documents from MS-DOS Word 5 to Adobe PDF. >But LinePrinterPC font appears only as ASCII characters instead of >lines. The Microsoft >Word 5.0 Postscript driver does not support LinePrinterPC only Linedraw >and Symbol >fonts. > >Is there an edit I can make to the Postscrp.ini file that can add >support for the >LineprinterPC font? >I have over a hundred screen captures from capture.com that need to >convert legibly. > >Any suggestions to ssumma@devtools.com would be appreciated . > >Sally > >Method for conversion MS-DOS Word 5 to PDF >-Print to file in Word 5 with Postscrp.prd driver and AS TurboLaser/PS >model chosen in >Print Options >-Cut and Paste Postscrp.ini font information to top of new postscript >file with some minor >edits >-One font glitch TimesRoman defaulting to Bookman in postscript file was >corrected with >Makeprd.exe >-Run .PS file through Adobe Distiller version 3.01 >-Non-postscript printer used to create original document is Hewlett >Packard LaserJet >IIID (hplj3.prd) - This supports LinePrinterPC font _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 12:28:10-GMT,1788;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09209 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:28:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21043; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:09:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:04:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20817; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:04:30 -0500 Message-ID: <35B726FA.D2AE525A@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:05:14 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bin files References: <508A9C6DF871D111B7E400609737950E05EC23@smtp.newseum.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com jessica hall wrote: > > Is there a way to set distiller up to either prevent it from making > pdf.bin files or automaticly convert them to pdfs. Hmm, maybe it's just me, but I've never even seen Distiller *create* a .pdf.bin file. My question is, how did you get it to create that? What is it? Cory Snavely The Beacon Group _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 13:00:30-GMT,2404;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09729 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:00:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23136; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:42:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:40:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22900; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:40:17 -0500 Message-ID: <7165A198AD18D111869100805F35071B2549FE@EXCHANGESERVER> From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] OCR'n a PDF Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:28:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I get the same message and I would also like to know how to get around it. If the document is mixed with images & text (perhaps how it was scanned), is it possible to save as just a text format eliminating everything that the OCR thinks is an image. Maybe there's a plug-in that could do this or could it be developed? > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Thiersch [SMTP:thiersch@env-sol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 1998 9:22 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] OCR'n a PDF > > I thought I'd try this myself, so I used Exchange to extract a single > page > of PDF that contains a scan of a page of text (from today's US Federal > Register). > > Then, in Exchange, I selected "Document>Capture Pages" and accepted > the > default Capture settings. > > I can't seem to get past the message: > > "This page has graphics other than images or text on it. It cannot > be > captured." > > Can anyone explain what this message means? And what, if anything, > can be > done about it? > > Thanks, > > Tom Thiersch > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 13:10:11-GMT,2524;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09930 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:10:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24385; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:58:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:56:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24161; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:56:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:57:52 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] List Update: Default message length reduced Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Earlier this week we had an unfortunate combination of factors that led to a re-posting of a complete PDF-Digest to the PDF list -- and to add insult to injury, it was part of an "I'm on vacation auto-reply" sent to the list address. To reduce the chances of a repeat of such nuisances, we have reduced the file size at which a message will be automatically posted without list administration review. The new size limit is 15 kb, so please keep that in mind when posting to the PDF list. Messages that are longer, but deemed appropriate, will be forwarded on to the list. Others will be removed from the queue without further notification. If this new size proves to be too low, we may adjust it upwards slightly. If you have questions or concerns, please let us know. Tks ~ Kurt __________________________________________________ * T h e P D F z o n e * __________________________________________________ (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com ------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 12:46:12-GMT,2082;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09479 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:46:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22289; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:30:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:28:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22064; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:28:06 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bin files In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:05:14 EDT." <35B726FA.D2AE525A@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:27:55 +0100 Message-ID: <12960.901196875@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:05:14 EDT, "Cory Snavely" wrote: > jessica hall wrote: > > > > Is there a way to set distiller up to either prevent it from making > > pdf.bin files or automaticly convert them to pdfs. > > Hmm, maybe it's just me, but I've never even seen Distiller *create* a .pdf.bin > file. My question is, how did you get it to create that? What is it? The only .foo.bin files I can think of are Mac files encoded using MacBinary on some non-Mac filesystem (eg a remote file server.) Are these files on a non-Mac file server? Can you configure it to store Mac files in a different way (eg storing the data fork (the useful PDF bit) in a file called blah.pdf, and the resource fork in a file called %blah.pdf) Chris _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 13:33:55-GMT,2393;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10352 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:33:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25989; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:17:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:15:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25778; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:15:17 -0500 From: Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:14:06 +0200 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] How to raster GENERIC PDF's? Importance: Low X-Mailer: DX-MAIL V2.21 (DX-MAIL X.400/MIME-Switch V2.02) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="uM8PKahQU8Arh2GMBRsdKvDBE5ksrptw" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com --uM8PKahQU8Arh2GMBRsdKvDBE5ksrptw Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi PDF fans! My task is as follows: To convert (generic) PDF Files to some "simple MS-Win compatible" bitmap fo= rmat, preferably PCX. In other words, the task is about interpreting the PDF "code" for every PDF= page and "rastering" it. One could say I need a sort of PDF Raster Image Processor. I imagine that the easiest way could be to use a special purpose printer dr= iver (Windows), which would not print, but save the result instead as a PCX file (or similar). Does anybody know such printer driver? Or do you have other ideas? Thank You petr.fexa@materna.de --uM8PKahQU8Arh2GMBRsdKvDBE5ksrptw Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: a18701a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent= --uM8PKahQU8Arh2GMBRsdKvDBE5ksrptw-- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 13:33:57-GMT,2203;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10357 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:33:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25917; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:16:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:14:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25678; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:14:23 -0500 From: Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:13:51 +0200 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] "TIFF" PDF's NOT in binary Importance: Low X-Mailer: DX-MAIL V2.21 (DX-MAIL X.400/MIME-Switch V2.02) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="oLZXzBOfxioESUYkW9ph02249GNTZGTj" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com --oLZXzBOfxioESUYkW9ph02249GNTZGTj Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi PDF fans! I import TIFF's with Acrobat Exchange - works great. But I'd wish that when saving the resulting PDF file, I could control HOW it is generated. Namely, I need it in NON binary format, preferably, I'd like ASCII85. Is there a means how to control this? If not, is there a tool anywhere which can convert PDF files "from binary to ASCII"? Thank You petr.fexa@materna.de --oLZXzBOfxioESUYkW9ph02249GNTZGTj Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: a18686a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent= --oLZXzBOfxioESUYkW9ph02249GNTZGTj-- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 13:38:23-GMT,1757;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10445 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:38:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25470; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:11:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:08:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25234; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:08:54 -0500 From: dhays@NOVALIS.COM X-Lotus-FromDomain: NOVALIS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525664A.00483F55.00@mailhost.novalis.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:11:40 -0400 Subject: [PDF] PDF Printing Issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com A collegue tried to print selected pages from a PDF file and received blank pages (the printer is an HP under PCL). I printed the same pages to my network printer (PS) and all was okay. Should printing PDFs to a non-PS printer be problematic? Dennis Hays Manager, Documentation Services Novalis Corporation One Columbia Circle Albany, NY 12203 Telephone: 518/862-3465 Facsimile: 518/862-3480 mailto:dhays@novalis.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 13:45:37-GMT,2003;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10575 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:45:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26526; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:26:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:23:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26363; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:23:51 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How to raster GENERIC PDF's? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:14:06 +0200." Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:23:43 +0100 Message-ID: <13098.901200223@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:14:06 +0200, Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE wrote: > --uM8PKahQU8Arh2GMBRsdKvDBE5ksrptw > Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi PDF fans! > > My task is as follows: > > To convert (generic) PDF Files to some "simple MS-Win compatible" bitmap fo= > rmat, preferably PCX. > In other words, the task is about interpreting the PDF "code" for every PDF= > page and "rastering" it. > One could say I need a sort of PDF Raster Image Processor. Ghostscript will do this (and more.) http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ Chris _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 13:48:31-GMT,3084;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10621 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:48:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25893; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:16:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:14:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25622; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:14:05 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] OCR'n a PDF Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:13:34 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bdb63b$b511a4c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <7165A198AD18D111869100805F35071B2549FE@EXCHANGESERVER> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Capture can only work on a file that contains nothing but images (perhaps only one image, not sure). You may be able to get around this by opening in Photoshop 5.0 and saving as a PDF, with all elements rasterised (at the resolution of your choice). I haven't tried this. Before doing that, ask how the PDF came to be in this position. If the file was made with Scan or Import, it should be ready for OCR. If it was made in any other way, perhaps the creator can make it in such a way that it contains text anyway. For instance, using PDFWriter with QuarkXPress will produce unreadable text. This does open the intriguing possibility that those unsearchable documents made with TrueType fonts can be made searchable by rasterising and capturing. If the resolution is right and the font not too difficult, the OCR success rate should be 100%. But don't expect the look to be exactly preserved; if you are making the original PDF you will be much better off switching fonts to avoid the problem in the first place. Aandi > > I get the same message and I would also like to know how to get around > it. If the document is mixed with images & text (perhaps how it was > scanned), is it possible to save as just a text format eliminating > everything that the OCR thinks is an image. Maybe there's a > plug-in that > could do this or could it be developed? > > I can't seem to get past the message: > > > > "This page has graphics other than images or text on it. It cannot > > be > > captured." > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 13:55:31-GMT,2352;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10794 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:55:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27928; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:43:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:40:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27717; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:40:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199807231340.IAA25497@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com> From: "Chris H. Keith" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] How to raster GENERIC PDF's? Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:27:50 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Create new printer option to "print to a file" instead of a port. You can do this in win95 or NT, and even win3.1. ---------- From: Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] How to raster GENERIC PDF's? Date: Thursday, July 23, 1998 6:14 AM Hi PDF fans! My task is as follows: To convert (generic) PDF Files to some "simple MS-Win compatible" bitmap format, preferably PCX. In other words, the task is about interpreting the PDF "code" for every PDF page and "rastering" it. One could say I need a sort of PDF Raster Image Processor. I imagine that the easiest way could be to use a special purpose printer driver (Windows), which would not print, but save the result instead as a PCX file (or similar). Does anybody know such printer driver? Or do you have other ideas? Thank You petr.fexa@materna.de IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: a18701a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent ---------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 13:55:48-GMT,2314;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10810 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:55:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27159; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:34:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:31:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27021; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:31:47 -0500 Message-ID: <35B738F4.E25D9605@psnw.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:21:56 -0700 From: Lynda Schrumpf Organization: P&L Marketing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] change default search perferences for reader w/search Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We are distributing about 2000 very small pdf's on a CD index them with Catalog 3.0 and having the users install Reader w Search from our CD to their HD. The users will be searching only the "Document Info Fields" of the PDF. So when reader w search installs we want the default perferences for Search to include the Document Info fields. The Reader w Search that we are using from the Acrobat 3.0 CD currently defaults to the full text search box I know the users can use that box to search the doc info fields but we feel it would be easier and more accurate if they only used the document info field boxes to enter the search criteria. We don't want the user to have to change the search perferences, we are using full screen views with our own navigation built on to each page of every pdf. Any ideas, it there a plug in? We own a copy of Compose 3.3.1 would that help? Thanks Lynda _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 14:00:54-GMT,2040;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10870 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:00:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27424; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:37:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:35:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27279; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:35:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199807231335.GAA23776@cuckoo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:36:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] How to raster GENERIC PDF's? From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com One solution - though I do not know how you could do this in batches unless one of our geniuses here has a plug-in that does it - would be to use the Select Graphics tool, select all, copy and paste into Photoshop. You can control dpi resolution by presetting you zoom level. See http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/usehtml.html for instructions for how to do this. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 14:02:24-GMT,2927;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10924 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:02:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27692; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:40:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:38:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27454; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:38:01 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980723143225.00c01100@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:32:25 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] "TIFF" PDF's NOT in binary In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 15:13 23/07/98 +0200, Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE wrote: >Hi PDF fans! > >I import TIFF's with Acrobat Exchange - works great. >But I'd wish that when saving the resulting PDF file, >I could control HOW it is generated. >Namely, I need it in NON binary format, preferably, >I'd like ASCII85. > >Is there a means how to control this? > >If not, is there a tool anywhere which can convert >PDF files "from binary to ASCII"? Be careful when you think of 'non-binary' PDF files. Sure, you can generate them so that they don't include binary data within streams, but the file as a whole is still binary and can be damaged by line end translation, because, if nothing else, the offsets to objects within the file will be wrong. I guess such damage can also be more reliably repaired by the Reader or Exchange when you open the file later if there's no binary data in streams though. Hmmm ... Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 14:02:36-GMT,2090;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10935 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:02:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27785; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:41:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:39:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27553; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:39:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199807231339.IAA27547@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] How to raster GENERIC PDF's? Date: Thu, 23 Jul 98 15:39:15 +0200 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Andrea Valle To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >To convert (generic) PDF Files to some "simple MS-Win compatible" bitmap >format, preferably PCX. >In other words, the task is about interpreting the PDF "code" for every >PDF page and "rastering" it. >One could say I need a sort of PDF Raster Image Processor. > >I imagine that the easiest way could be to use a special purpose printer >driver (Windows), which would not >print, but save the result instead as a PCX file (or similar). > >Does anybody know such printer driver? > >Or do you have other ideas? Adobe Photoshop 5.0 is all you need. It does a magnificent rasterization of PDF files. Just "Open" the PDF, choose resolution and number of color bits and then "Save as" PCX or what other format you need. Andrea _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 14:16:35-GMT,3136;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11272 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:16:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29638; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:59:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:57:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29420; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:57:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] change default search perferences for reader w/search Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:58:58 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com You can customize the Reader Installers for 16bit and 32bit versions of Windows. It's not an easy task if you don't know what you're doing, and it's not an answer for Mac people. Alternatively, you could put a button on a setup screen that accesses the menu where the option can be changed. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lynda Schrumpf [SMTP:plmark@psnw.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 1998 9:22 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] change default search perferences for reader > w/search > > We are distributing about 2000 very small pdf's on a CD index them > with > Catalog 3.0 and having the users > install Reader w Search from our CD to their HD. The users will be > searching only the "Document Info Fields" > of the PDF. So when reader w search installs we want the default > perferences for Search to include the > Document Info fields. The Reader w Search that we are using from the > Acrobat 3.0 CD currently defaults to the > full text search box I know the users can use that box to search the > doc > info fields but we feel it would be easier > and more accurate if they only used the document info field boxes to > enter the search criteria. We don't want > the user to have to change the search perferences, we are using full > screen views with our own navigation built > on to each page of every pdf. Any ideas, it there a plug in? We own > a > copy of Compose 3.3.1 would that help? > > Thanks > Lynda > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 14:27:44-GMT,2111;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11481 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:27:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30441; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:10:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:07:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30247; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:07:50 -0500 Message-ID: <35B74168.117AA55A@psnw.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:58:00 -0700 From: Lynda Schrumpf Organization: P&L Marketing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] copy links in batch for multiple pdf files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have about 2000, 2 page pdf files that I need to add navigation to each page such as next page, zoom to, previous page, open file, print, previous doc in search, next doc in search. We own Compose 3.31 but as far as I know it will only copy the links if the pages are in a single pdf file. We need the pages in separate files in order to search their doc info fields, we are publishing a CD ROM searchable Catalog 3.0 index. Will Compose copy such links to multiple pdf files in batch? Is there a product that will? Can I combine the files into several large files copy the links and then separate them back into the 2 page pdf's? I don't think the links to next page ect would work. Thanks Lynda _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 14:52:05-GMT,2297;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11972 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:52:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31959; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:33:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:30:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31726; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:30:44 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] "TIFF" PDF's NOT in binary Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:28:26 +0100 Message-ID: <001201bdb646$62ab4780$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Exchange import is really only for use with Capture - hence the lack of facilities. I'd advise using Distiller instead. Aandi > I import TIFF's with Acrobat Exchange - works great. > But I'd wish that when saving the resulting PDF file, > I could control HOW it is generated. > Namely, I need it in NON binary format, preferably, > I'd like ASCII85. > > Is there a means how to control this? > > If not, is there a tool anywhere which can convert > PDF files "from binary to ASCII"? I'm working on a tool that shrinks PDF files and in the process would convert ASCII to binary. I can't think of a single good reason to go the other way, but if there is one, I'd like to hear it. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 14:52:07-GMT,3440;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11976 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:52:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31957; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:33:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:31:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31777; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:31:10 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8825663B.00521585.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:39:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Max Pages in a Catalog Index Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We've worked around the multi CD problem: We decide what files will go on each CD, then, in the property fields (we use the title field) we enter a descriptive title and the CD#. We create an index of all files and name it "index CD1". We move just the files we're pressing to the first CD to the server along with the appropriately named index files, and we press CD1. Then we create another index of all files and name it "index CD2". We move just the files we're pressing to the second CD to the server along with the index files, and we press CD2. and so on and so on.... Just copying and renaming the index didn't work - we had to create a new index each time. You can search the full index from whichever CD you're in and the title shows you the CD the information is located on. Here's the catch: IF YOU CLICK ON THE FILE YOU WANT TO OPEN, AND THE APPROPRIATE CD IS NOT CURRENTLY IN THE DRIVE, YOU MAY SHUT DOWN THE APPLICATION. YOU MUST INSERT THE CORRECT CD INTO THE DRIVE, MAKE SURE THE INDEX FOR THAT CD IS ALSO LOADED, AND THEN CLICK ON THE FILE. It's not ideal, but it works. SueG Ramon Mellado Villlarreal on 07/07/98 02:22:07 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Max Pages in a Catalog Index We are about to process close to 100,000 images of pages into PDF using Capture and then creating a search index with Catalog. Two questions: 1. What is the reliability of Catalog in the creation of such index. Is there a design or practical limitation to the number of pages that can be included in the index? 2. Has Adobe or someone else gotten over the multi-CD volume limitation of the Catalog index (documents in several CD volumes) or do all docs in an index have to be on a single volume? Thanks in advance. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 15:10:35-GMT,3015;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12589 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:10:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00493; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:52:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:50:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00319; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:50:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199807231450.HAA24480@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Location: San Jose (ISAACS_1) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:49:54 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] Number of pages Cc: "David M. Davisson" , rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com In-Reply-To: <000b01bdb514$80fefd90$a2456cc7@shadow.pfp.net> References: <85256648.0083511A.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sorry, it isn't so simple. The % lines are PostScript comment lines that officially have no meaning. For PostScript output from "office" type applications or Adobe FrameMaker, these comment lines generated by the driver MAY be correct. But for applications that generate their own PostScript for imaging (i.e., they "pass" PostScript directly "through" the driver instead of sending GDI or QuickDraw commands)), the driver is not always "informed" by the application about new pages. In other words, don't count on any "%%Pages" comments to reflect the truth. - Dov At 7/21/98 07:00 PM , David M. Davisson wrote: >Simple! > >The preamble (header) of the file will contain an entry: > >%%Pages: (atend) > >At the end of the file will be entries something like: > >%%Trailer >. >. >. >%%Pages: xxx > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On >> Behalf Of rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com >> Subject: [PDF] Number of pages >> >> Can someone tell me if it is possible to determine the number of pages in a >> PostScript file, so that I know upfront how many pages there will be in the >> PDF file after I convert it? >> >> Thanks, >> >> RJ Jiwungkul >> Bellcore _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 15:27:28-GMT,3113;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13006 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:27:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32318; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:39:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:37:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32166; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:37:24 -0500 Message-ID: <7165A198AD18D111869100805F35071B254A01@EXCHANGESERVER> From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] copy links in batch for multiple pdf files Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:25:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I would be curious to know some of the answers to your questions as I have a similar problem that I ended up doing practically by hand. I tried to combine into larger pdf files adding the navigational buttons and when I tried to save the file (that was fine before navigational additions), it came up with errors. No matter what I tried I couldn't save the file or extract pages. I figured that it had a memory issue and ended up doing just 2 or 3 pp. at a time with Compose. I'd love to have a better way, though! > -----Original Message----- > From: Lynda Schrumpf [SMTP:plmark@psnw.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 1998 9:58 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] copy links in batch for multiple pdf files > > I have about 2000, 2 page pdf files that I need to add navigation to > each page such as next page, zoom to, previous page, open file, print, > previous doc in search, next doc in search. We own Compose 3.31 but > as > far as I know it will only copy the links if the pages are in a single > pdf file. We need the pages in separate files in order to search > their > doc info fields, we are publishing a CD ROM searchable Catalog 3.0 > index. Will Compose copy such links to multiple pdf files in batch? > Is > there a product that will? Can I combine the files into several large > files copy the links and then separate them back into the 2 page > pdf's? > I don't think the links to next page ect would work. > > Thanks > Lynda > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 15:36:42-GMT,3655;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13185 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:36:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02586; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:23:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:21:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02440; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:21:06 -0500 Message-ID: <35B75507.3D991A32@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:21:43 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bin files References: <508A9C6DF871D111B7E400609737950E05EC25@smtp.newseum.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com jessica hall wrote: > > Some pdfs we recieve come from macs and come in as pdf.bin files. I'm > not sure how they are being created on the other end. I would like to > know more about storing the data fork if that wouldn't be to much > trouble for you. OK, so this is a question of "what is a third party sending me?", not "why is the Distiller producing this?" This is really an issue you would work out with the third party, and doesn't have anything specifically to do with Acrobat at all...but obviously there is confusion happening, so let's get it resolved. [Please, no flames for an off-list-topic post; the cross-platform nature of PDF tends to bring this issue up often.] By convention, the .bin extension typically means MacBinary encoding--a special binary encoding for Macintosh files commonly used for transport onto other platforms. Related encodings are AppleSingle and BinHex, the latter being a format commonly used for transport using email. The MacBinary encoding contains both parts of a Macintosh file, the data and resource forks. No matter what, you're going to need a program to read the MacBinary file, and extract one or both forks from it, in order to use it on any computer. As it happens, though, when working with PDF files on non-Macintosh platforms, the resource fork is unneeded...totally. In other words, if the data fork is extracted and renamed to whatever.pdf, it will be complete and whole and perfectly usable--I've done it many times. So, if you are all non-Mac at your site, you will probably either want to 1) use a program to extract the data fork of the PDF file from the MacBinary file (such a program for UNIX is mcvert), or 2) tell the third party to quit delivering MacBinary files, and only deliver the data forks (if they can), to save all the trouble. If you do have to support Macs at your site, then you'll want to preserve the resource fork as well. Something like StuffIt Expander should be able to read a MacBinary file and save both the data and resource forks. (On a Mac it won't be apparent that there are two forks, but there are, behind the scenes.) Hopefully that will get you started. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 15:42:32-GMT,2570;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13332 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:42:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03157; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:30:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:28:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02849; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:28:30 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980723162316.008a59d0@mail.btinternet.com> X-Sender: djm.lists@mail.btinternet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:23:16 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David J Murray Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for July-23-98 [V2 #277] In-Reply-To: <199807231240.HAA22917@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > I can't seem to get past the message: > > "This page has graphics other than images or text on it. > It cannot be captured." > > Can anyone explain what this message means? And what, if anything, > can be done about it? > I've come across this myself, and each time have discovered that I was attempting to capture a page that had already been captured - with the text stored "behind" the scanned image. Could that be the same with you, or does something else do the same thing? - David Murray - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MAINE CONSULTING SERVICES PO Box 73, Blackburn, England, BB2 7BS Tel: +44/0-1254-693936 Fax: +44/0-1254-663774 Email: maineuk@btinternet.com Web: http://users.aol.com/maineuk A summary of David Murray's 1997 book is on our web site: "ETHICS IN ORGANISATIONS" (Reprinted Feb 98) We work in the following interrelated areas: Strategic Futures - Organisation Design & Renewal Service Quality - Business & Professional Ethics Continuous Improvement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 15:52:49-GMT,2559;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13591 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:52:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03858; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:38:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:36:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03640; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:36:07 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8525664A.00483F55.00@mailhost.novalis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:15:05 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Printing Issue Cc: dhays@NOVALIS.COM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Dennis, I recently stumbled over a note that there seems to be a patch for Reader and Exchange 3.01 which fixes problems with PCL printers. As I don't use that kind of printer, I did not get deeper. It might be an idea to look around on Adobe's web site or FTP server and see whether there is really something new. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >A collegue tried to print selected pages from a PDF file and received blank >pages (the printer is an HP under PCL). I printed the same pages to my >network printer (PS) and all was okay. Should printing PDFs to a non-PS >printer be problematic? > >Dennis Hays >Manager, Documentation Services >Novalis Corporation >One Columbia Circle >Albany, NY 12203 >Telephone: 518/862-3465 >Facsimile: 518/862-3480 >mailto:dhays@novalis.com > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 15:53:46-GMT,2559;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13606 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:53:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03805; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:37:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:35:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03592; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:35:44 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8525664A.00483F55.00@mailhost.novalis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:15:05 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Printing Issue Cc: dhays@NOVALIS.COM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Dennis, I recently stumbled over a note that there seems to be a patch for Reader and Exchange 3.01 which fixes problems with PCL printers. As I don't use that kind of printer, I did not get deeper. It might be an idea to look around on Adobe's web site or FTP server and see whether there is really something new. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >A collegue tried to print selected pages from a PDF file and received blank >pages (the printer is an HP under PCL). I printed the same pages to my >network printer (PS) and all was okay. Should printing PDFs to a non-PS >printer be problematic? > >Dennis Hays >Manager, Documentation Services >Novalis Corporation >One Columbia Circle >Albany, NY 12203 >Telephone: 518/862-3465 >Facsimile: 518/862-3480 >mailto:dhays@novalis.com > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 15:54:40-GMT,2559;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13637 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:54:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03613; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:35:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:33:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03257; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:32:59 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8525664A.00483F55.00@mailhost.novalis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:15:05 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Printing Issue Cc: dhays@NOVALIS.COM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Dennis, I recently stumbled over a note that there seems to be a patch for Reader and Exchange 3.01 which fixes problems with PCL printers. As I don't use that kind of printer, I did not get deeper. It might be an idea to look around on Adobe's web site or FTP server and see whether there is really something new. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >A collegue tried to print selected pages from a PDF file and received blank >pages (the printer is an HP under PCL). I printed the same pages to my >network printer (PS) and all was okay. Should printing PDFs to a non-PS >printer be problematic? > >Dennis Hays >Manager, Documentation Services >Novalis Corporation >One Columbia Circle >Albany, NY 12203 >Telephone: 518/862-3465 >Facsimile: 518/862-3480 >mailto:dhays@novalis.com > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 15:58:03-GMT,2559;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13721 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:58:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03715; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:36:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:34:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03412; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:34:44 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8525664A.00483F55.00@mailhost.novalis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:15:05 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Printing Issue Cc: dhays@NOVALIS.COM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Dennis, I recently stumbled over a note that there seems to be a patch for Reader and Exchange 3.01 which fixes problems with PCL printers. As I don't use that kind of printer, I did not get deeper. It might be an idea to look around on Adobe's web site or FTP server and see whether there is really something new. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >A collegue tried to print selected pages from a PDF file and received blank >pages (the printer is an HP under PCL). I printed the same pages to my >network printer (PS) and all was okay. Should printing PDFs to a non-PS >printer be problematic? > >Dennis Hays >Manager, Documentation Services >Novalis Corporation >One Columbia Circle >Albany, NY 12203 >Telephone: 518/862-3465 >Facsimile: 518/862-3480 >mailto:dhays@novalis.com > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 16:02:35-GMT,3226;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13807 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:02:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04928; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:51:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:49:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04777; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:49:38 -0500 Message-ID: <002001bdb651$93d5a3e0$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] copy links in batch for multiple pdf files Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:50:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Lynda, This is not a direct answer to your question but rather in the "other things to consider" category. We have found that form-based button actions behave significantly slower than the menu-bar "equivalent". Also, there are some situations that we have run into where the Mac processes buttons differently than the PC so make sure to test on all platforms. I've stated this on the list before but not recently. Hope this is information you can use. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. -----Original Message----- From: Lynda Schrumpf To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thursday, July 23, 1998 10:10 AM Subject: [PDF] copy links in batch for multiple pdf files >I have about 2000, 2 page pdf files that I need to add navigation to >each page such as next page, zoom to, previous page, open file, print, >previous doc in search, next doc in search. We own Compose 3.31 but as >far as I know it will only copy the links if the pages are in a single >pdf file. We need the pages in separate files in order to search their >doc info fields, we are publishing a CD ROM searchable Catalog 3.0 >index. Will Compose copy such links to multiple pdf files in batch? Is >there a product that will? Can I combine the files into several large >files copy the links and then separate them back into the 2 page pdf's? >I don't think the links to next page ect would work. > >Thanks >Lynda > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 16:19:16-GMT,2907;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14264 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:19:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06081; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:06:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:04:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05890; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:04:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980723090640.007da8b0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:06:40 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] change default search perferences for reader w/search In-Reply-To: <35B738F4.E25D9605@psnw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Using the abcpy.ini, you can change the Windows Registry search entries. This method is documented in abcpydoc.ini. Contact me offline if you want a specific example. We do this all the time. At 06:21 AM 7/23/98 -0700, you wrote: >We are distributing about 2000 very small pdf's on a CD index them with >Catalog 3.0 and having the users >install Reader w Search from our CD to their HD. The users will be >searching only the "Document Info Fields" >of the PDF. So when reader w search installs we want the default >perferences for Search to include the >Document Info fields. The Reader w Search that we are using from the >Acrobat 3.0 CD currently defaults to the >full text search box I know the users can use that box to search the doc >info fields but we feel it would be easier >and more accurate if they only used the document info field boxes to >enter the search criteria. We don't want >the user to have to change the search perferences, we are using full >screen views with our own navigation built >on to each page of every pdf. Any ideas, it there a plug in? We own a >copy of Compose 3.3.1 would that help? > >Thanks >Lynda > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 16:35:38-GMT,2114;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14620 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:35:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06841; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:17:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:14:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06567; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:14:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:12:47 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] List Netiquette Reminder: EDIT Previous Replies Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ***Apologies to those who will receive duplicate copies*** Without intending to single out anyone in particular, there've been quite a few posts on the various PDFzone-managed lists recently that are considerably longer/larger than they need to be. That has a negative impact on several fronts, particularly on wasted bandwidth & bloated digests. When replying publicly to another list subscribers' posting, along with your reply please forward back to the list *ONLY* a small segment of the previous message -- enough to give your reply some context, but no more. Practicing good discussion list Netiquette benefits everyone, so please do your good deeds individually on any lists to which you are subscribed. Tks in advance ~ Kurt The PDFzone List Administrator _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 17:23:25-GMT,1862;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15619 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:23:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10096; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:04:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:01:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09875; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:01:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:01:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199807231701.MAA09875@everglades.binc.net> From: "Karen L Mibus" To: undisclosed-recipients:; 23 Jul 1998 10:40:17 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] IE 4.01 Back Button with PDF Files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com When viewing PDF files in IE 4: If I click on a Web link within a PDF, or if I submit form data and then click the browser back button from the acknowledgment page, I return to the first page of my PDF file, not the page I was on. This does not happen with IE 3+. In IE 3+, the back button will return to whatever page of the PDF I was on before leaving the document. Is there a way to fix the IE 4 back button problem? --Karen L. Mibus New Media Analyst/Developer Key Services Corporation karen_l_mibus@keybank.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 19:25:59-GMT,2443;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18276 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:25:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18177; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:25:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:22:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17925; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:22:17 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDFdev] Conversion of Group 3 Fax Data Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 20:21:18 +0100 Message-ID: <002101bdb66f$2261c5e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <01BDB63C.AD5406A0.mdoiron@ctrpoint.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > I have a Win95 application that allows a user to view Group 3 Fax > documents. I have written code to convert the data to PDF, > but I have one > problem that I hope someone out there can help me with. I can > not determine > how the values in the special graphic parameter are worked out, > i.e.( q 576 0 0 435.84 18 338.16 cm /im1 Doendstream). > > So far I have worked out an algorithm by reverse engineering > the output > from PDFWriter. This has worked for 98% of the files, but I > get the odd one > where the output from PDFWriter is different. The meaning of transformation matrixes are given in the PDF Reference Manual; it's helpful to also read some PostScript programming books, which explain how matrixes are used. Just bear in mind that the matrix transforms the 1 x 1 square which the image would otherwise occupy. Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 21:06:25-GMT,1782;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20713 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:06:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23802; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:48:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:45:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23543; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:45:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980723134336.00523990@axe.humboldt.edu> X-Sender: cea7002@axe.humboldt.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:43:36 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ed Albert Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF files on OpenVMS/Alpha In-Reply-To: <199807231952.OAA19751@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com This may sound like a pipe dream or something, but does anyone know if there is a way to create PDF files from an Alpha running OpenVMS v7.1.1? Trying to encourage paper savings .. and if this could be done, it would be a big step in saving paper, and maybe even a couple of trees. Ed Cave canem .... _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 21:11:48-GMT,3151;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20819 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:11:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24011; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:51:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:49:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23867; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:49:30 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 22:30:55 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] List Netiquette Reminder: EDIT Previous Replies Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hallo Kurt, thanks for reminding us . I had a little mishap earlier today, making a message come through _four_ times. I did send an apology to the list, and I would like to repeat it here as well. For my problem, there could be possiblilities to avoid it on the listserver side. I recently got a message where the server keeps a log of sender, subject and time (and probably message size). When another message with exactly the same parameters is posted again, it will get dumped automatically, and the sender is notified. Thanks once more for the work with the lists. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ > ***Apologies to those who will receive duplicate copies*** > > >Without intending to single out anyone in particular, there've been quite a >few posts on the various PDFzone-managed lists recently that are >considerably longer/larger than they need to be. That has a negative impact >on several fronts, particularly on wasted bandwidth & bloated digests. > >When replying publicly to another list subscribers' posting, along with >your reply please forward back to the list *ONLY* a small segment of the >previous message -- enough to give your reply some context, but no more. > >Practicing good discussion list Netiquette benefits everyone, so please do >your good deeds individually on any lists to which you are subscribed. > >Tks in advance ~ Kurt >The PDFzone >List Administrator _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 21:11:52-GMT,1955;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20824 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:11:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24615; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:59:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:57:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24407; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:57:31 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <8525664A.00483F55.00@mailhost.novalis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 22:46:16 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Apology - was: Re: [PDF] PDF Printing Issue Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com To all listmembers: I apologize for the fact that a message from me came through four times instead of one. There seemed to be a serious slowdown at my ISP's SMTP server, and I got impatient and stopped and resumed the mail transfer. Again, my apologies. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 21:13:21-GMT,1955;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20860 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:13:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23992; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:51:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:49:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23837; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:49:09 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <8525664A.00483F55.00@mailhost.novalis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 22:46:16 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Apology - was: Re: [PDF] PDF Printing Issue Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com To all listmembers: I apologize for the fact that a message from me came through four times instead of one. There seemed to be a serious slowdown at my ISP's SMTP server, and I got impatient and stopped and resumed the mail transfer. Again, my apologies. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 21:13:46-GMT,4127;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20874 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:13:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24875; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:02:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:00:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24736; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:00:47 -0500 Message-ID: <35B7A482.6BD00D27@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:00:51 -0400 From: Ramon Mellado Villarreal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Max Pages in a Catalog Index References: <8825663B.00521585.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sounds like a good idea, thanks. With regards to your "catch", maybe a pugin can be created ensure the user pops in the correct cd into the drive before the trying to open the document. Have you tried this approach? sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > We've worked around the multi CD problem: We decide what files will go on > each CD, then, in the property fields (we use the title field) we enter a > descriptive title and the CD#. We create an index of all files and name it > "index CD1". We move just the files we're pressing to the first CD to the > server along with the appropriately named index files, and we press CD1. > Then we create another index of all files and name it "index CD2". We move > just the files we're pressing to the second CD to the server along with the > index files, and we press CD2. and so on and so on.... Just copying and > renaming the index didn't work - we had to create a new index each time. > > You can search the full index from whichever CD you're in and the title > shows you the CD the information is located on. Here's the catch: IF YOU > CLICK ON THE FILE YOU WANT TO OPEN, AND THE APPROPRIATE CD IS NOT CURRENTLY > IN THE DRIVE, YOU MAY SHUT DOWN THE APPLICATION. YOU MUST INSERT THE > CORRECT CD INTO THE DRIVE, MAKE SURE THE INDEX FOR THAT CD IS ALSO LOADED, > AND THEN CLICK ON THE FILE. > > It's not ideal, but it works. > > SueG > > Ramon Mellado Villlarreal on 07/07/98 02:22:07 PM > > Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) > Subject: [PDF] Max Pages in a Catalog Index > > We are about to process close to 100,000 images of pages into PDF using > Capture and then creating a search index with Catalog. Two questions: > 1. What is the reliability of Catalog in the creation of such index. Is > there a design or practical limitation to the number of pages that can be > included in the index? > 2. Has Adobe or someone else gotten over the multi-CD volume limitation of > the Catalog index (documents in several CD volumes) or do all docs in an > index have to be on a single volume? > Thanks in advance. > > _______________________________________________ > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 19:55:59-GMT,1501;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19004 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:55:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18154; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:25:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:21:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17836; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:21:10 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199807231921.AA04988@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 98 15:18:27 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I saw alot of discussion on the list yesterday on this subject. I'm interested to know what the best solution found was. Corbin _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 20:08:16-GMT,2604;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19339 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:08:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19969; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:54:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:52:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19734; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:52:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980723144853.00c0e418@emrg.com> X-Sender: ggernert@emrg.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:49:02 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Glenn Gernert Subject: Re: [PDF] Addressing Year 2000 compliance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 08:57 AM 2/17/02 +0100, you wrote: > >Some of my customers would like to have informations about Acrobat's year >2000 compliance. >I've done some tests and it seems that only MacOS versions are fully >compliant. >Is it right? Has someone made investigations about this very important >matter? >I'd like to receive a voice from Adobe too. See for the official word direct from the source on year 2000 issues. glg +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Glenn Gernert Service Bureau Manager | | EMERGE | |----------------------------------------------------------| | 579 D'Onofrio Drive | Phone: 800-829-2459 X-103 | | Suite 101 | Fax: 608-829-3561 | | Madison, WI | E-mail: ggernert@pdfzone.com | | 53719 | http://www.emerge.pdfzone.com/ | +----------------------------------------------------------+ Adobe Acrobat Electronic Publishing Solutions Acrobat Capture Service Bureau _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 23:07:55-GMT,1518;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23584 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:07:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA30810; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:54:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:51:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA30666; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:51:11 -0500 From: ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525664A.0069E35D.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:18:45 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Hidden Text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Is there a way to create text that is not visible within a pdf file but can be searched for and highlight a particular page or line?? Carl Krog Systems Analyst Bellcore ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 23:31:41-GMT,1881;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24101 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:31:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32226; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:19:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:17:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA32097; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:17:39 -0500 Message-ID: <002101bdb690$3200c8e0$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Hidden Text Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 19:18:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com In you source document, make the text size small (2 point) and/or make the text color the same as the background. You may also be able to do his using the Text Edit tool of Acrobat. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Productions Corp. >Carl Krog wrote: > >Is there a way to create text that is not visible within a pdf file but can >be searched for and highlight a particular page or line?? > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 0:31:18-GMT,1856;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25303 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:31:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01767; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 19:13:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 19:10:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01646; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 19:10:30 -0500 X-Sender: typeshop@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8525664A.0069E35D.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:09:45 +1200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: TypeShop Ltd Subject: Re: [PDF] Hidden Text Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >Is there a way to create text that is not visible within a pdf file but can >be searched for and highlight a particular page or line?? > Making it invisible is the easy part. Assuming it is on a white "page" select the word with the text tool in Exchange and make its colour White. It is still there and can be searched for. When found it is highlighted. (But you still can't see the word.) Cliff Strange TypeShop Limited Christchurch New Zealand _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 23:07:55-GMT,1518;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23584 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:07:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA30810; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:54:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:51:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA30666; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:51:11 -0500 From: ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525664A.0069E35D.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:18:45 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Hidden Text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Is there a way to create text that is not visible within a pdf file but can be searched for and highlight a particular page or line?? Carl Krog Systems Analyst Bellcore ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 23-Jul-1998 23:54:26-GMT,26568;000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24592; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:54:25 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14240; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:54:24 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] Hidden Text Message-ID: Carl Krog writes on Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:18:45 -0400: >> Is there a way to create text that is not visible within a pdf file but can >> be searched for and highlight a particular page or line?? Yes: create white text on a white background (or any pair of the same color). Here is an example: % cat invis.ltx % -*-latex-*- % Document name: /u/sy/beebe/invis.ltx % Creator: Nelson H. F. Beebe [beebe@math.utah.edu] % Creation Date: Thu Jul 23 17:35:59 1998 \documentclass{article} \usepackage[dvips]{color} \begin{document} {\color{white} This is `secret' text: white on white. } {\color{blue} This is visible text: blue on white. } \end{document} Process it like this: latex2e invis.ltx dvips-type1 invis.dvi distill invis.ps acroread invis.pdf dvips-type1 is a local wrapper around dvips to force it to use outline, instead of bitmap, fonts, for better quality output with Acrobat; see http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/fonts/outline-vs-bitmap-fonts.html for discussion of this point. Then search for `secret' in invis.pdf with Acrobat Reader or xpdf: it will highlight a box, though I do not know whether there is a simple way to make this text visible. 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F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jul-1998 0:50:51-GMT,2753;000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25702; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:50:50 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA14554; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:50:50 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:50:50 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] Hidden Text Message-ID: Carl Krog writes on Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:18:45 -0400: >> Is there a way to create text that is not visible within a pdf file but can >> be searched for and highlight a particular page or line?? Yes: create white text on a white background (or any pair of the same color). Here is an example: % cat invis.ltx % -*-latex-*- % Document name: /u/sy/beebe/invis.ltx % Creator: Nelson H. F. Beebe [beebe@math.utah.edu] % Creation Date: Thu Jul 23 17:35:59 1998 \documentclass{article} \usepackage[dvips]{color} \begin{document} {\color{white} This is `secret' text: white on white. } {\color{blue} This is visible text: blue on white. } \end{document} Process it like this: latex2e invis.ltx dvips-type1 invis.dvi distill invis.ps acroread invis.pdf dvips-type1 is a local wrapper around dvips to force it to use outline, instead of bitmap, fonts, for better quality output with Acrobat; see http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/fonts/outline-vs-bitmap-fonts.html for discussion of this point. Then search for `secret' in invis.pdf with Acrobat Reader or xpdf: it will highlight a box, though I do not know whether there is a simple way to make this text visible. Carl, I'll send you a separate MIME-encoded zip bundle with the test files. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jul-1998 1:06:26-GMT,3485;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25995 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 19:06:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03663; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 19:53:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Jul 1998 19:50:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03585; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 19:50:55 -0500 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:50:50 -0600 (MDT) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] Hidden Text Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Carl Krog writes on Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:18:45 -0400: >> Is there a way to create text that is not visible within a pdf file but can >> be searched for and highlight a particular page or line?? Yes: create white text on a white background (or any pair of the same color). Here is an example: % cat invis.ltx % -*-latex-*- % Document name: /u/sy/beebe/invis.ltx % Creator: Nelson H. F. Beebe [beebe@math.utah.edu] % Creation Date: Thu Jul 23 17:35:59 1998 \documentclass{article} \usepackage[dvips]{color} \begin{document} {\color{white} This is `secret' text: white on white. } {\color{blue} This is visible text: blue on white. } \end{document} Process it like this: latex2e invis.ltx dvips-type1 invis.dvi distill invis.ps acroread invis.pdf dvips-type1 is a local wrapper around dvips to force it to use outline, instead of bitmap, fonts, for better quality output with Acrobat; see http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/fonts/outline-vs-bitmap-fonts.html for discussion of this point. Then search for `secret' in invis.pdf with Acrobat Reader or xpdf: it will highlight a box, though I do not know whether there is a simple way to make this text visible. Carl, I'll send you a separate MIME-encoded zip bundle with the test files. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 5:25:53-GMT,2983;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00470 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 23:25:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14182; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 00:14:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 00:10:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14010; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 00:10:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:43:22 -0500 (GMT) From: Satyanarayan X-Sender: usatra01@obelix To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hidden Text In-Reply-To: <002101bdb690$3200c8e0$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello Good Morning, On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Chris Lane wrote: > In you source document, make the text size small (2 point) and/or make the > text color the same as the background. You may also be able to do his using > the Text Edit tool of Acrobat. > > >Carl Krog wrote: > > > >Is there a way to create text that is not visible within a pdf file but can > >be searched for and highlight a particular page or line?? Thanks for the above solution. It works great for PDF Normal files. Is there any way we can add Hidden text for PDF Image only pages?? We scan pages to TIFF G4 and Import them into Acrobat Exchange and produce PDF files. We then OCR the pages using the Capture Plug-in in Exchange. However some pages end up completely as Images as they have text which could not be captured or does not have any text at all. We would like to add one line Search text (need not be hidden) onto those pages. We tried adding text using the Forms Tool, but the text was not searchable. We are forced to process such pages separately through Capture and Reviewer, and replace them. This process is time consuming and expensive though it works. Any better solutions?? Thanks in advance Satyanarayan --------------------------------------- | Satyanarayan R. Bindingnavale | | Senior Manager Business Development,| | Vetri Systems Inc., | | 2690 Crooks Road, Suite 305 | | Troy, Michigan 48084 | | ___________________________________ | | E-mail: satya@vetri.com | --------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 11:53:10-GMT,1464;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07074 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:53:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25587; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 06:32:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 06:27:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25421; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 06:27:54 -0500 From: ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525664B.003E8BAF.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:26:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Re: [PDF] Hidden Text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com To everyone who answered my hidden text question, thanks for the help. Carl Krog Systems Analyst Bellcore ckrog@notes.cc.bellcore.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 12:37:24-GMT,2341;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07788 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 06:37:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27720; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:20:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:14:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27416; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:14:01 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980724122853.007e8140@mail.btinternet.com> X-Sender: djm.lists@mail.btinternet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:28:53 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David J Murray Subject: [PDF] PDF from PageMaker 6.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I wonder if anyone can help me. I'm creating PDF files from PageMaker 6.5 via the export function (i.e. not by printing to Distiller). I currently have two problems. 1. Several of my pages include Windows metafiles. They all end up in the pdf looking great EXCEPT that they all have half an inch missing at the right-hand side. I've tried everything I can think of but nothing makes any difference. 2. Hyperlinks made in PageMaker transfer to pdf with no problem, but this seems only to be possible when a specific destination page in specified. Does anyone know a way of getting relative navigation, especially "Back" and "Nextpage" links, into the file? If I can put these into a master page in Pagemaker I'll save having to enter them manually several hundred times using Exchange, but I can't find any way of doing it. Thanks in anticipation, - David Murray - Maine Consulting Services, UK. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 12:54:50-GMT,2195;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08087 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 06:54:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28526; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:38:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:35:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28405; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:35:34 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from PageMaker 6.5 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:28:53 BST." <3.0.3.32.19980724122853.007e8140@mail.btinternet.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:35:26 +0100 Message-ID: <15396.901283726@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:28:53 BST, David J Murray wrote: > 2. Hyperlinks made in PageMaker transfer to pdf with no problem, but this > seems only to be possible when a specific destination page in specified. > Does anyone know a way of getting relative navigation, especially "Back" > and "Nextpage" links, into the file? If I can put these into a master page > in Pagemaker I'll save having to enter them manually several hundred times > using Exchange, but I can't find any way of doing it. You need to place small EPS graphics on your master page; each graphic needs to have a pdfmark (hence the graphics *must* be EPS) embedded in it to instruct Acrobat Reader to jump to the previous/next page. I believe there are instructions for embedding pdfmarks in EPS files on the Acrobat 3.0 CD-ROM. Chris _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 13:16:47-GMT,2319;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08458 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:16:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29916; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:03:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:00:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29753; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:00:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199807241300.IAA29733@everglades.binc.net> Date: 24 Jul 98 08:59:11 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: [PDF] PDF creation from Pagemaker To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA29749 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com As for the hyperlinks, I can be of no help, having never used that function. However by using PDF Writer (the way PDF is automatically created in Pagemaker) is NOT a good workflow. I cannot tell you how many headaches this PDF author has created for me and NOT ONE of these issues arises when created from Acrobat Distiller. It seems to me PDF Writer is the "duct tape" of PDF authors, often getting the job done, but often times not looking very pretty. Adobe support will not touch calls asking about PDF Writer, having the knee-jerk response "Have you tried Distiller". My advice, if it creates problems and Adobe seems to be abandoning it, STEER CLEAR. Besides, Distiller is FANTASTIC with its PDF creation options, and a breeze to use once it's set up. Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 13:19:55-GMT,3481;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08528 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:19:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30340; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:10:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:07:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30117; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:06:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199807241306.IAA30107@everglades.binc.net> Date: 24 Jul 98 09:05:49 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from PageMaker 6.5 To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA30113 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Reply to: RE: [PDF] PDF from PageMaker 6.5 David J Murray wrote: > > I wonder if anyone can help me. I'm creating PDF files from PageMaker 6.5 > via the export function (i.e. not by printing to Distiller). I currently > have two problems. > > 1. Several of my pages include Windows metafiles. They all end up in the > pdf looking great EXCEPT that they all have half an inch missing at the > right-hand side. I've tried everything I can think of but nothing makes > any difference. > > 2. Hyperlinks made in PageMaker transfer to pdf with no problem, but this > seems only to be possible when a specific destination page in specified. > Does anyone know a way of getting relative navigation, especially "Back" > and "Nextpage" links, into the file? If I can put these into a master page > in Pagemaker I'll save having to enter them manually several hundred times > using Exchange, but I can't find any way of doing it. > > Thanks in anticipation, > > - David Murray - > Maine Consulting Services, UK. _________________________________ Apologies on the reply. You will find this note by itself, I have now comprehended this system. David, As for the hyperlinks, I can be of no help, having never used that function. However by using PDF Writer (the way PDF is automatically created in Pagemaker) is NOT a good workflow. I cannot tell you how many headaches this PDF author has created for me and NOT ONE of these issues arises when created from Acrobat Distiller. It seems to me PDF Writer is the "duct tape" of PDF authors, often getting the job done, but often times not looking very pretty. Adobe support will not even touch calls asking about PDF Writer, having the knee-jerk response "Have you tried Distiller?". My advice, if it creates problems and Adobe seems to be abandoning it, STEER CLEAR. Besides, Distiller is FANTASTIC with its PDF creation options, and a breeze to use once it's set up. Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 13:30:38-GMT,2116;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08741 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:30:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30728; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:18:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:16:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30603; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:16:02 -0500 Message-ID: <35B88B5A.60CB@archangel.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:25:46 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF creation from Pagemaker References: <199807241300.IAA29733@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Justin Blocksom wrote: > >However by using PDF Writer (the way PDF is >automatically created in Pagemaker) is NOT a >good workflow. I cannot tell you how many >headaches this PDF author has created for me >and NOT ONE of these issues arises when created >from Acrobat Distiller. It seems to me PDF >Writer is the "duct tape" of PDF authors, >often getting the job done, but often times >not looking very pretty. That about sums it up! We call it PDF-Rotter. -- Shane Steinman Logistics & Diagnostics, ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. W., Ste. 910, Toronto, Ont., CAN M3H 2R7 Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 email: shane@archangel.net _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 13:33:10-GMT,2158;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08795 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:33:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31181; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:24:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:22:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31003; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:22:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Ostiguy To: "'PDF Forum'" Subject: [PDF] Pagemaker PDF's Contain RGB's? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:24:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have PDF files created using Pagemaker 6.5. When I export to .PS or .EPS and put them through my Rip, It errors saying there are RGB colors in the file. I've tried using Checkup 1.51 software and it also tells me that RGB colors are in the text or line-art. The two jobs that I have recieved in Pagemaker both have these errors. What gives?? Is there a setting in Pagemaker I'm not aware of?? (They are not selecting convert cmyk to RGB in Distiller neither.) Has anyone seen this issue before? Many thanks for all replies, Steve Ostiguy Imaging Supervisor- CtP Production St. Joseph Printing Ltd. sostiguy@stjoseph.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 13:33:44-GMT,2167;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08811 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:33:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30997; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:22:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:20:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30846; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:20:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980724062226.007e4470@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 06:22:26 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: [PDF] How do you use PDF? In-Reply-To: References: <002101bdb690$3200c8e0$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Greetings Listmembers, My manager wants me to explore additional uses for PDF that we could pass on to our clients (read "How can we get more money for our products"). We currently use it for context-sensitive online Help, but I am curious as to how you or your company uses it. If you would like to respond, please respond to me directly. Do NOT reply to the list, or Kurt might not be too happy. --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com mailto:scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 14:15:29-GMT,3010;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09630 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:15:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00469; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:59:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:55:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00099; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:55:43 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Pagemaker PDF's Contain RGB's? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:54:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bdb70a$b0f76080$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Seems a strange sort of RIP that fails if there are RGB colours, but never mind... I believe PM 6.5 fixed a problem and caused a new one, in time honoured fashion. This is from memory, so details may be wrong. The problem: RGB colours used in a PM file would be muted in a PDF (intended for screen display). The cause: PM6 would convert all colours to CMYK, losing bright colours in the process. The "fix": if a PPD indicates the output device has an RGB colour model (as does, I think) the Distiller PPD, PageMaker converts all colours to RGB. The new problem: you guessed it! It would seem that a superior approach would have been to output RGB colours as RGB and CMYK colours as CMYK. But never mind. You can try a different PPD when Distilling. Or, try our beta RGB->CMYK plug-in (http://www.quite.com/preview/). Aandi Inston Quite Software > > I have PDF files created using Pagemaker 6.5. When I > export to .PS or > .EPS > and put them through my Rip, It errors saying there are RGB colors in > the file. > I've tried using Checkup 1.51 software and it also tells me that RGB > colors are in the > text or line-art. The two jobs that I have recieved in Pagemaker both > have these errors. > What gives?? Is there a setting in Pagemaker I'm not aware of?? > (They are not selecting convert cmyk to RGB in Distiller neither.) Has > anyone seen this issue before? > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 14:37:12-GMT,3762;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10021 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:37:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02010; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:28:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:24:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01792; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:24:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Ostiguy To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Pagemaker PDF's Contain RGB's? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:26:20 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Thanks Aandi, But I dont have the files just the PDF's so I can't go through distiller with a different PPD. We use a Harliquen Rip which only accepts cmyk, why? because at this time Printing presses print as cmyk not as RGB. Any other suggestions? Steve Ostiguy Imaging Supervisor- CtP Production St. Joseph Printing Ltd. sostiguy@stjoseph.com >---------- >From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] >Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 9:54 AM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: RE: [PDF] Pagemaker PDF's Contain RGB's? > >Seems a strange sort of RIP that fails if there are RGB colours, >but never mind... > >I believe PM 6.5 fixed a problem and caused a new one, in time honoured >fashion. This is from memory, so details may be wrong. > >The problem: RGB colours used in a PM file would be muted in a PDF (intended > for screen display). >The cause: PM6 would convert all colours to CMYK, losing bright colours > in the process. >The "fix": if a PPD indicates the output device has an RGB colour model > (as does, I think) the Distiller PPD, PageMaker converts all colours to > RGB. >The new problem: you guessed it! > >It would seem that a superior approach would have been to output RGB colours >as RGB and CMYK colours as CMYK. But never mind. > >You can try a different PPD when Distilling. >Or, try our beta RGB->CMYK plug-in (http://www.quite.com/preview/). > >Aandi Inston >Quite Software >> >> I have PDF files created using Pagemaker 6.5. When I >> export to .PS or >> .EPS >> and put them through my Rip, It errors saying there are RGB colors in >> the file. >> I've tried using Checkup 1.51 software and it also tells me that RGB >> colors are in the >> text or line-art. The two jobs that I have recieved in Pagemaker both >> have these errors. >> What gives?? Is there a setting in Pagemaker I'm not aware of?? >> (They are not selecting convert cmyk to RGB in Distiller neither.) Has >> anyone seen this issue before? >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 15:00:00-GMT,2695;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10467 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:59:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03139; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:47:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:43:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02928; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:43:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980724153804.00c4e100@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:38:04 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" From: Martin Bailey Subject: RE: [PDF] Pagemaker PDF's Contain RGB's? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 10:26 24/07/98 -0400, Steve Ostiguy wrote: > >Thanks Aandi, But I dont have the files just the PDF's so I can't go >through distiller with >a different PPD. We use a Harliquen Rip which only accepts cmyk, why? >because at this time Printing presses print as cmyk not as RGB. Any >other suggestions? Gosh. We plan to make it easy for OEMs to set our RIP up to warn or abort on RGB images in the next version (because a lot or people want us to), but I hadn't realised any of our OEMs had already done this. The RIP as shipped by Harlequin has no problems with RGB data. Which OEM did you buy the RIP through? Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 15:00:08-GMT,2596;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10471 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:00:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03138; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:47:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:43:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02903; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:43:49 -0500 From: eric.jacobson@tfn.com X-Server-Uuid: b0832e76-507b-11d1-9cee-00e0290993bc X-Lotus-FromDomain: THOMSON FINANCIAL SERVICES To: Message-ID: <8525664B.004ED0A4.00@investext.tfn.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:42:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] capture error (was)Re: pdf-digest for July-23-98 [V2 #277] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 19A64305314180-19A64305314181-01 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >> >> I can't seem to get past the message: >> >> "This page has graphics other than images or text on it. >> It cannot be captured." >> >> Can anyone explain what this message means? And what, if anything, >> can be done about it? >> >I've come across this myself, and each time have discovered that I was attempting to capture a page that had already >been captured - with the text stored "behind" the scanned image. >Could that be the same with you, or does something else do the same thing? >- David Murray - (Assuming you're talking about the Capture plug-in....) The file "trouble.pdf" in the Exchange help directory lists this as one of three problems that cause a similar error message. The other two are "The current page is not a simple bitmap", and "The current page has been rotated or cropped". The error message you got combined with the "simple bitmap" limitation implies to me that your page might contain vector graphics (look up path operators in the pdfspec) rather than just bitmap data. You may want to recheck how the page was created in the first place. Eric Jacobson _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 15:02:29-GMT,2488;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10509 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:02:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03458; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:53:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:51:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03330; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:51:10 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Pagemaker PDF's Contain RGB's? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:49:38 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bdb712$69b1db80$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Thanks Aandi, But I dont have the files just the PDF's so I can't go > through distiller with > a different PPD. We use a Harliquen Rip which only accepts cmyk, why? > because at this time Printing presses print as cmyk not as RGB. Any > other suggestions? > Any Harlequin RIP should be capable of colour separating RGB image data. You may find that this has been switched off as an option, to avoid "accidents", but I doubt cannot be overcome. Any level 2 RIP can colour separate any file. Though, perhaps you are using a different application to separate. I don't work with Harlequin RIPs any more, but most the details of it and someone is likely to help. Except that, the pdf-prepress list is likely to be a better place for that. Otherwise, try out that plug-in, if you like. >Or, try our beta RGB->CMYK plug-in (http://www.quite.com/preview/). Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 15:08:53-GMT,3302;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10696 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03731; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:58:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:56:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03640; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:56:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Ostiguy To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Pagemaker PDF's Contain RGB's? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:57:58 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We have a Creo Allegro Rip which runs Harlequin software Steve Ostiguy Imaging Supervisor- CtP Production St. Joseph Printing Ltd. sostiguy@stjoseph.com >---------- >From: Martin Bailey[SMTP:martinb@harlequin.co.uk] >Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 10:38 AM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Subject: RE: [PDF] Pagemaker PDF's Contain RGB's? > >At 10:26 24/07/98 -0400, Steve Ostiguy wrote: >> >>Thanks Aandi, But I dont have the files just the PDF's so I can't go >>through distiller with >>a different PPD. We use a Harliquen Rip which only accepts cmyk, why? >>because at this time Printing presses print as cmyk not as RGB. Any >>other suggestions? > >Gosh. We plan to make it easy for OEMs to set our RIP up to warn or abort >on RGB images in the next version (because a lot or people want us to), but >I hadn't realised any of our OEMs had already done this. The RIP as shipped >by Harlequin has no problems with RGB data. > >Which OEM did you buy the RIP through? > > > >Regards > >Martin Bailey > >---------------------------------------------------------- > Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd > martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com >---------------------------------------------------------- > I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with > my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and > the buck stops with me for what I say here >---------------------------------------------------------- > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 15:25:52-GMT,3173;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11071 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:25:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04610; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:11:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:08:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04392; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:08:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Ostiguy To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Pagemaker PDF's Contain RGB's? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:10:04 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com There are features that enable a RIP to convert a RGB image or text to cmyk color space but...not very well, usually causes color problems. This is why most Rips are set to fail if RGB's detected. Steve Ostiguy Imaging Supervisor- CtP Production St. Joseph Printing Ltd. sostiguy@stjoseph.com >---------- >From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] >Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 10:49 AM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: RE: [PDF] Pagemaker PDF's Contain RGB's? > > > >> Thanks Aandi, But I dont have the files just the PDF's so I can't go >> through distiller with >> a different PPD. We use a Harliquen Rip which only accepts cmyk, why? >> because at this time Printing presses print as cmyk not as RGB. Any >> other suggestions? >> > >Any Harlequin RIP should be capable of colour separating RGB image data. >You may find that this has been switched off as an option, to avoid >"accidents", but I doubt cannot be overcome. Any level 2 RIP can colour >separate any file. > >Though, perhaps you are using a different application to separate. > >I don't work with Harlequin RIPs any more, but most the details of it >and someone is likely to help. Except that, the pdf-prepress list is >likely to be a better place for that. > >Otherwise, try out that plug-in, if you like. > >>Or, try our beta RGB->CMYK plug-in (http://www.quite.com/preview/). > >Aandi > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 15:34:06-GMT,2765;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11213 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:34:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05085; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:19:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:17:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04979; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:17:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199807241517.IAA20836@scotland.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:19:45 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from PageMaker 6.5 From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >David, > It seems to me PDF Writer is the "duct tape" of PDF authors, often getting the job done, but often times not looking very pretty. Adobe support will not even touch calls asking about PDF Writer, having the knee-jerk response "Have you tried Distiller?". My advice, if it creates problems and Adobe seems to be abandoning it, STEER CLEAR. Besides, Distiller is FANTASTIC with its PDF creation options, and a breeze to use once it's set up. I cannot agree 100%. I used to consider PDFWriter the "cheap solution" for creating PDF files. No longer. PDFWriter is actually superior for some use - most notably Microsoft Office applications, which is where most potential users of PDF reside. Try taking an Excel chart and Distill it. Then try printing it out through PDFWriter. My charts are truer to the original using PDFWriter. Another issue is TrueType fonts - PDFWriter seems to handle them more consistently, and with fewer problems, than Distiller. Basically, it gets down to a question of Postscript. If the original has it, use Distiller - if it doesn't, hey PDFWriter might make more sense. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 17:07:14-GMT,4007;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12996 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:07:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09265; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:41:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:38:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09083; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:38:17 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980724163821.00d8064c@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:38:21 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] capture error Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Eric, Thanks for digging up the Help stuff -- it would be more than a little helpful if the text of the error message that's displayed by the Capture plug-in bore at least a passing resemblance to the text of the error message that's in the Help file (attn: Adobe Tech Docs!!!) The PDF page that I was using for testing was simply extracted via Exchange from an ordinary text + graphics PDF file; which means, of course, that it contained a great deal of "vector" information, such as all of the PostScript text. I now understand the Capture plug-in limitation that the page to be captured must be a pure bitmap, although that makes little sense. Since any PDF document that you view on-screen has already been transformed into a bitmap (the individual pixels that you see on your monitor) by the Acrobat Exchange rasterizer, why not allow Capture to operate against that bitmapped image? Requiring that Capture be given an actual file that's a pure bitmap seems like a fairly arbitrary retriction. Yes, one can use either Photoshop 5 or PageMaker 6.5 to convert a PDF page to a TIF file, import that TIF into Exchange, and then Capture it, but it sure is a cumbersome series of operations. I tried it on my test page, and got excellent results -- it just required more steps (and one more piece of expensive software) than should have been needed. Thanks again for the explanation [sorry, didn't mean to get off on a rant.] Tom Thiersch At 10:42 AM 7/24/98 -0400, you wrote: > > > > > >>> >>> I can't seem to get past the message: >>> >>> "This page has graphics other than images or text on it. >>> It cannot be captured." >>> >>> Can anyone explain what this message means? And what, if anything, >>> can be done about it? >>> > >>I've come across this myself, and each time have discovered that I was >attempting to capture a page that had already >been captured - with the >text stored "behind" the scanned image. > >>Could that be the same with you, or does something else do the same thing? > >>- David Murray - > >(Assuming you're talking about the Capture plug-in....) >The file "trouble.pdf" in the Exchange help directory lists this as one of >three problems that cause a similar error message. >The other two are "The current page is not a simple bitmap", and "The >current page has been rotated or cropped". > >The error message you got combined with the "simple bitmap" limitation >implies to me that your page might contain vector graphics >(look up path operators in the pdfspec) rather than just bitmap data. You >may want to recheck how the page was created in the first >place. > >Eric Jacobson > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 17:46:16-GMT,4356;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13702 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:46:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11443; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:27:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:24:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11293; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:24:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199807241724.MAA11288@everglades.binc.net> Date: 24 Jul 98 13:23:29 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from PageMaker 6.5 To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA11289 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Reply to: Re: [PDF] PDF from PageMaker 6.5 >>David, >> It seems to me PDF Writer is the "duct tape" of PDF authors, often getting >the job done, but often times not looking very pretty. Adobe support will >not even touch calls asking about PDF Writer, having the knee-jerk response >"Have you tried Distiller?". My advice, if it creates problems and Adobe >seems to be abandoning it, STEER CLEAR. Besides, Distiller is FANTASTIC with >its PDF creation options, and a breeze to use once it's set up. C. Scott Miller wrote:> >I cannot agree 100%. >I used to consider PDFWriter the "cheap solution" for creating PDF files. No >longer. PDFWriter is actually superior for some use - most notably Microsoft >Office applications, which is where most potential users of PDF reside. >Try taking an Excel chart and Distill it. Then try printing it out through >PDFWriter. My charts are truer to the original using PDFWriter. Another >issue is TrueType fonts - PDFWriter seems to handle them more consistently, >and with fewer problems, than Distiller. Basically, it gets down to a >question of Postscript. If the original has it, use Distiller - if it >doesn't, hey PDFWriter might make more sense. > >C. Scott Miller > >a production of Performance Graphics >miller@performancegraphics.com > >_______________________________________________ C.Scott Miller, I would disagree for the very reasons you endorse it. What forced me to look into the Distiller workflow was all problems originating with Microsoft products and PC fonts. My client submits pdf documents to me that are created from Microsoft Word and Powerpoint files yet again from other creators. We would constantly have problems of improper display of embedded flagged text, Times New Roman was a constant headache as specialty charectors like asterisks, parens, quotations would "crash" the text. What I mean by that is it would invade the space of the charector(s) preceeding it because PDF Writer did not know how to handle the kerning values on these charectors. Also, nearly 90% of my pdfs come from the PC platform and 99% of those use TrueType fonts. Again, nothing but beautiful results with Distiller, (using it from the platform it was created from mind you. It's one of the ways PDF is not entirely portable yet, that "standard 13" open back door you see.) PDF Writer works on occasion, but it has those pitfalls that make you need to check EVERYTHING EVERYTIME to see if it REALLY worked. Use Distiller and there is no need to check. Now with Microsoft Excel, I cannot dispute, I have not seen a scenario yet that involves that variable. What I do know is it was 3 months of phone calls, Tech support, and tons of R&D on my end to get to the bottom of that PDF Writer problem. Will have to look into that Excel though. Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 17:46:58-GMT,3089;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13714 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:46:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11783; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:35:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:32:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11667; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:32:51 -0500 Message-ID: <35B8C531.1C9BA7BF@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:32:34 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How do you use PDF? References: <002101bdb690$3200c8e0$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> <3.0.5.32.19980724062226.007e4470@mailhost.fourgen.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA11663 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I use it to help clients produce interactive versions of all of their printed documents with particular emphasis on getting new pubs on line prior to the hard copy versions that lag from 3-6 weeks due to the printing process. i.e. scheduling, 4/C output etc. R. Moran Scott Hamlow wrote: > Greetings Listmembers, > > My manager wants me to explore additional uses for PDF that we could pass > on to our clients (read "How can we get more money for our products"). We > currently use it for context-sensitive online Help, but I am curious as to > how you or your company uses it. > > If you would like to respond, please respond to me directly. Do NOT reply > to the list, or Kurt might not be too happy. > > --------------------------- > Scott Hamlow > Technical Writer > Endura Software Corporation > Seattle, Washington USA > http://www.enduracorp.com > mailto:scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com > 206.517.6487 > --------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 18:29:40-GMT,3358;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14557 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:29:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13783; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:15:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:13:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13583; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:13:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <35B8C531.1C9BA7BF@kiwi.futuris.net> References: <002101bdb690$3200c8e0$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> <3.0.5.32.19980724062226.007e4470@mailhost.fourgen.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:11:39 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Cc: scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Scott, >>Do NOT reply > to the list, or Kurt might not be too happy. What ever gave you that idea?? ;-} Your query sounds like a *very* appropriate discussion for this list -- has the makings for a very info-rich thread, seems to me. It's certainly relevant to the purpose of this list so long as the answers don't evolve into thinly disguised sales pitches for one's product or services. We would draw the line at that, as most here know -- and willingly abide by. So let's keep this thread public -- at least as far as I'm concerned. And please don't *assume* that my endless supply of patience and forgiveness is depleted. (Just don't ask on these lists where you can find out about the next live Net birth.) rgds ~ Kurt === Scott Hamlow wrote: > Greetings Listmembers, > > My manager wants me to explore additional uses for PDF that we could pass > on to our clients (read "How can we get more money for our products"). We > currently use it for context-sensitive online Help, but I am curious as to > how you or your company uses it. > > If you would like to respond, please respond to me directly. Do NOT reply > to the list, or Kurt might not be too happy. > > --------------------------- > Scott Hamlow > Technical Writer > Endura Software Corporation > Seattle, Washington USA > http://www.enduracorp.com > mailto:scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com > 206.517.6487 > --------------------------- __________________________________________________ * T h e P D F z o n e * __________________________________________________ (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com ------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 18:29:48-GMT,1826;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14562 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:29:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13536; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:12:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:09:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13375; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:09:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199807241809.NAA13369@everglades.binc.net> Date: 24 Jul 98 14:08:40 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: [PDF] Can you import graphics into PDF? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA13371 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Is there a way to delete a graphic from a PDF page and import another into it's place? I have tinkered with PitStop, but this tool seems very limited and unable to do this. Any suggestions? Unfortunately I do not have the native file, that would be too easy. Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 18:29:48-GMT,2382;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14563 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:29:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13537; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:12:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:10:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13432; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:10:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] "The document could not be saved. There was a problem reading thi s document (110)." Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:11:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com When trying to "Save as PDF..." in Acrobat Exchange we get an error message: "The document could not be saved. There was a problem reading this document (110)." This sometimes occurs when a large number of links have been created on one page (like on an index page). It also occurs sometimes, rather than right after the links were all created, after a few of those have been fixed (correctly linked). Does anyone know of an upper limit imposed by the software? A way to change this upper limit? We have plenty of memory and the process of saving does not even use all of the available CPU processing power. In Macintoshes you can (or at least, used to be able to) change the available memory space devoted to a particular application (in the Get Info Dialog Box). On PCs, this is not done. We are using Win NT, 300 MHz, 128 Mg RAM PCs. TIA, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 18:54:49-GMT,2874;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15057 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:54:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14539; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:29:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:27:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14371; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:27:00 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F64010D0DE9@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Can you import graphics into PDF? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:23:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BDB730.2AB90A78" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BDB730.2AB90A78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I agree that PitStop IS limited, and they do not provide adequate support for the product. The Gemini plug-in (aka Genus HTML) will extract the image. You can use a Form "button" to achieve this as well. The Gemini plug-in will extract an image(s) from a page(s) as well as generate HTML from the PDF. The DocumentReplacePages option may also serve your purposes, if the new page(s) are available in PDF. Kevin C. Farrell Lucent Technologies Electronic Media Networked Services (EMNS) mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com (630) 224-6890 ------_=_NextPart_000_01BDB730.2AB90A78 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Farrell, Kevin (Kevin).vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Farrell, Kevin (Kevin).vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Farrell;Kevin FN:Farrell, Kevin (Kevin) ORG:;JX0E10500 TEL;WORK;VOICE:+1 630 224 6890 TEL;PAGER;VOICE:+1 708 569 9572 ADR;WORK:;23L9;2000 N Naperville Rd,P O Box 3033;Naperville;IL;60566-7033;U S LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:23L9=0D=0A2000 N Naperville Rd,P O Box 3033=0D=0ANaperville, IL 60566-7033= =0D=0AU S EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:kfarrell@lucent.com REV:19980724T171522Z END:VCARD ------_=_NextPart_000_01BDB730.2AB90A78-- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 19:15:05-GMT,2491;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15410 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:15:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16146; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:58:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:55:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16007; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:55:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199807241855.NAA15996@everglades.binc.net> Date: 24 Jul 98 14:54:24 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] Can you import graphics into PDF? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA15998 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Reply to: RE: [PDF] Can you import graphics into PDF? Farrell, Kevin (Kevin) wrote: >I agree that PitStop IS limited, and they do not provide adequate support >for the product. > >The Gemini plug-in (aka Genus HTML) will extract the image. You can use a >Form "button" to achieve this as well. The Gemini plug-in will extract an >image(s) from a page(s) as well as generate HTML from the PDF. > >The DocumentReplacePages option may also serve your purposes, if the new >page(s) are available in PDF. > > >Kevin C. Farrell >Lucent Technologies >Electronic Media Networked Services (EMNS) >mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com >(630) 224-6890 ________________________________ Kevin, Thanks, but extraction/deletion is only 1/2 of it. What about importation of graphics? And it is not a page replacement, they are graphic(s) on a PDF page that needs to be removed and replaced. Or have I misunderstood you? Please clarify. Other suggestions? Thanks. Justin Blocksom jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 19:16:08-GMT,2366;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15429 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:16:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16502; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:07:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:05:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16420; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:05:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:09:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I manage a Graphics Dept. for a medium sized environmental consulting firm. I started using Acrobat on a limited basis about a year ago. Everything my company does is published as a customized report for our clients. Our clients range from the private to the public sector. We convert our entire report with; text, tables, graphics, GIS mapping, and whatever else fits, to a PDF document and publish on CD-ROM. The CD-ROM has an AutoPlay executable that I wrote and so far, we have had some significant success. I have one client that is having my group convert the sum of all reports we have ever published for them (8 years worth) to a single CD-ROM. Additionally, I am adopting a pdf workflow that greatly speeds up our peer review process as well. Since I subscribed to this list, I have discovered that I have hardly tapped the full strength of this app. Now, I am looking for additional uses. I do look forward to reading about how all of you are applying this as well. Sam Jessup _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 19:35:27-GMT,3198;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15771 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:35:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16930; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:16:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:13:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16779; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:13:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] "The document could not be saved. There was a problem r eading thi s document (110)." Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:17:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Nathan: > When trying to "Save as PDF..." in Acrobat Exchange we get an error > message: "The document could not be saved. There was a problem reading > this document (110)." Ah ha!!!! This is a old, hoary, famous one for long-time PDFers. Sometimes it's "Error 21", or (41), or other meaningless codes. (and they are meaningless, as far as I know). We all have seen it, lost files to it, etc. And... you'll get a shrug from Adobe if you call it in. NOT that I'm suggesting you don't call it in!! > This sometimes occurs when a large number of links have been > created on > one page (like on an index page). It also occurs sometimes, > rather than > right after the links were all created, after a few of those have been > fixed (correctly linked). Yes indeedy. And under some other circumstances too. > Does anyone know of an upper limit imposed by the software? A way to > change this upper limit? We have plenty of memory and the process of > saving does not even use all of the available CPU processing power. In > Macintoshes you can (or at least, used to be able to) change the > available memory space devoted to a particular application (in the Get > Info Dialog Box). On PCs, this is not done. The best I can say is this: Don't "Save As" very often. Draw your links, etc., and save your work with a "Save". Only use "Save As" at the end of your editing. And hold your breath! (especially if you're Optomizing to boot). > We are using Win NT, 300 MHz, 128 Mg RAM PCs. Likewise... it does'nt matter. Not a resource thing. regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010 Oakland, CA 94612 510-986-0250 FAX: 510-986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com www.document-solutions.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 19:35:29-GMT,2717;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15775 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:35:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17454; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:26:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:24:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17300; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:24:19 -0500 Message-ID: <7165A198AD18D111869100805F35071B254A11@EXCHANGESERVER> From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] "The document could not be saved. There was a problem r eading thi s document (110)." Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:13:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I also had this problem. Earlier this week, I mentioned on a thread that I thought this problem was due to the .pdf file being too large (with links, etc.) I thought somewhere I read that a file shouldn't be more than a certain size or it will not store having memory problems. After you toil over a project for a few hours only to find you can't save that one last time, you learn to manage your pdf files so they are smaller. I now break large pdf files up and link them together. > -----Original Message----- > From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] > Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 3:17 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] "The document could not be saved. There was a > problem r eading thi s document (110)." > > Nathan: > > > When trying to "Save as PDF..." in Acrobat Exchange we get an error > > message: "The document could not be saved. There was a problem > reading > > this document (110)." > > Ah ha!!!! This is a old, hoary, famous one for long-time PDFers. > Sometimes it's "Error 21", or (41), or other meaningless codes. (and > they are meaningless, as far as I know). We all have seen it, lost > files to it, etc. And... you'll get a shrug from Adobe if you call it > in. NOT that I'm suggesting you don't call it in!! > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 20:26:16-GMT,2965;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16661 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:26:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19435; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:11:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:08:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19288; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:08:53 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6024C92@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Hidden Text Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:24:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Both Acrobat Exchange and Acrobat Reviewer can output Hidden Text Image PDF files. Make appropriate "Preference" settings: Exchange: Preference button after launching Capture plug-in choose PDF output style. Capture: Save as/ choose save as type. Our OCR tool also allow users to save images in text behind image mode. Vincent Huang Developer of PageGenie PRO 2000 The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR Tool http://www.pagegenie.com > > In you source document, make the text size small (2 point) and/or > make the > > text color the same as the background. You may also be able to do > his using > > the Text Edit tool of Acrobat. > > > >Carl Krog wrote: > > > > > >Is there a way to create text that is not visible within a pdf file > but can > > >be searched for and highlight a particular page or line?? > > Thanks for the above solution. It works great for PDF Normal files. > > Is there any way we can add Hidden text for PDF Image only pages?? > > We scan pages to TIFF G4 and Import them into Acrobat Exchange and > produce > PDF files. We then OCR the pages using the Capture Plug-in in > Exchange. > However some pages end up completely as Images as they have text which > > could not be captured or does not have any text at all. We would like > to > add one line Search text (need not be hidden) onto those pages. > > We tried adding text using the Forms Tool, but the text was not > searchable. We are forced to process such pages separately through > Capture and Reviewer, and replace them. This process is time consuming > and expensive though it works. > > Any better solutions?? > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 21:16:10-GMT,2499;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17554 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:16:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21907; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:01:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:57:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21711; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:57:40 -0500 X-Sender: typeshop@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980724062226.007e4470@mailhost.fourgen.com> References: <002101bdb690$3200c8e0$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 08:56:57 +1200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: TypeShop Ltd Subject: Re: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >Greetings Listmembers, > >My manager wants me to explore additional uses for PDF that we could pass >on to our clients (read "How can we get more money for our products"). We >currently use it for context-sensitive online Help, but I am curious as to >how you or your company uses it. > Our company uses PDF almost entirely for pre-press work. This includes tidying up some suspect PostScript files to make them suitable for processing through various other products (Kurt-notice, no commercialism ). We also create PDF files for running out our jobs on various different types of colour photocopying machines. All in all I like using PDF. I look forward to the day when Adobe take it seriously as a pre-press tool and include some other goodies (such as more serious editing tools, the ability to allow bleed and also a larger maximum page size [for use in the case of impositions]). Regards Cliff Strange TypeShop Limited Christchurch New Zealand _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 21:26:07-GMT,2049;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17744 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:26:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22576; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:14:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:12:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22417; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:12:22 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Hidden Text Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:14:15 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bdb748$03663480$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <8525664A.0069E35D.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Is there a way to create text that is not visible within a pdf > file but can > be searched for and highlight a particular page or line?? Make it white ??? drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 21:49:37-GMT,2750;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18139 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:49:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23877; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:38:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:36:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23716; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:36:37 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDB710.6B40A3C0.Peggy.Gunter@tanner.com> From: Peggy Gunter To: "'PDF list -- posting'" Cc: "'Holly.Jahangiri@compaq.com'" Subject: PDF as context-sensitive help (WAS: [PDF] How do you use PDF) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:36:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi Scott, In your message you say you use PDF for context-sensitive online Help -- would you (or anyone else on this list doing the same) mind sharing how you do that? We provide our manuals to customers as PDF, but they are not context-sensitive as the term is defined. If it's possible we would like to use PDF to implement true context-senstive help. If you reply to the list please copy me directly as I only get the digest. Thanks for your help. Peggy Gunter Technical Writer Tanner EDA peggy.gunter@tanner.com ----------- Original message -------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 06:22:26 -0700 From: Scott Hamlow Subject: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Greetings Listmembers, My manager wants me to explore additional uses for PDF that we could pass on to our clients (read "How can we get more money for our products"). We currently use it for context-sensitive online Help, but I am curious as to how you or your company uses it. - --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com mailto:scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 - --------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 21:49:41-GMT,2108;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18145 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:49:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23566; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:33:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:31:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23464; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:31:13 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:37:47 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: Re: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi all, Yes, I think this would be an interesting thread. I've started using PDF for highres maps and taking advantage of the zoomability and it's simple text search engine. Started my exploration with my genealogy project, mapping family progress through the States and Canada. This has lead to a more advanced research (business application) with the FLASH plug-in and interactive GIS (Geographical Information Systems) databases, active on-line, on the internet. Still in the prototype phase with this, but is looking promising, (ie click on a street and all the restaurants will pop up, submenued with the food menus, price list, parking, etc... for argument sake). I'm interested in hearing from anyone involved in similar useages. Cheers Murray McCombs _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 21:55:00-GMT,2734;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18246 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:54:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24390; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:47:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:45:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24206; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:45:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] "The document could not be saved. There was a problem r eading thi s document (110)." Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:48:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > I also had this problem. Earlier this week, I mentioned on a > thread that > I thought this problem was due to the .pdf file being too large (with > links, etc.) I thought somewhere I read that a file shouldn't be more > than a certain size or it will not store having memory problems. There does appear to be a file size link - but if so, it's around 1 MB -- which is not very much! Moreover, the problem appears regardless of system resources - ie, a P166 w/32 MB and a P300 with 128MB will both have the problem. > After you toil over a project for a few hours only to find you can't > save that one last time, you learn to manage your pdf files > so they are > smaller. I now break large pdf files up and link them together. Hmm. That's rough. Lots more finagling with links, bookmarks, etc. Also, it makes providing a unitary file (like a book) problematic. We have achieved success with files ranging over 100 MB and with more than 5,000 pages at a time. The best approach seems to be (a) Planning your workflow in deliberate, incremental stages, interspersed with "Save"s (b) Doing as much work as possible locally (as opposed to across a network) (c) Performing "Save-As" infrequently, preferably the last move before delivery... Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 21:56:18-GMT,3358;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18273 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:56:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24474; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:49:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:46:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24319; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:46:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199807242146.VAA16246@ih85.ea.unisys.com> From: "Dembek, Raymond F" To: "'Scott Hamlow'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:49:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Scott, We use PDF to publish documentation for our hardware/software products. A set of documents is published on a CD-ROM with full-text searching via the Acrobat Search engine. We make these same PDF files available to our customers with support contracts on our support WWW server, also searchable. Some of our major releases have hundreds of documents in PDF form. But to my knowledge we are not using PDF for context-sensitive help although we do link from WinHelp files to documentation in PDF form. Could you please explain your Acrobat context-sensitive online Help application? Which Acrobat/PDF attributes made it a good choice for this? Does your help system work with the Reader or require Exchange? Is there any way I might get a look at your context sensitive help file? Ray Dembek Unisys Corp Michigan 734-737-4975 > ---------- > From: Scott Hamlow[SMTP:] > Reply To: > Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 9:22 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] How do you use PDF? > > Greetings Listmembers, > > My manager wants me to explore additional uses for PDF that we could > pass > on to our clients (read "How can we get more money for our products"). > We > currently use it for context-sensitive online Help, but I am curious > as to > how you or your company uses it. > > If you would like to respond, please respond to me directly. Do NOT > reply > to the list, or Kurt might not be too happy. > > --------------------------- > Scott Hamlow > Technical Writer > Endura Software Corporation > Seattle, Washington USA > http://www.enduracorp.com > mailto:scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com > 206.517.6487 > --------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 21:57:52-GMT,2635;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18299 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:57:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24441; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:48:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:46:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24282; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:46:24 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFwriter is OK !! Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:48:29 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01bdb74c$cb93cae0$033da8c0@ROCKHSE2.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199807241517.IAA20836@scotland.it.earthlink.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > It seems to me PDF Writer is the "duct tape" of PDF authors, > I cannot agree 100%. > I used to consider PDFWriter the "cheap solution" for creating > PDF files. No > longer. PDFWriter is actually superior for some use - most > notably Microsoft > Office applications, .................................... > PDFWriter might make more sense. Good to see some other fans of PDFwriter out there. We have always maintained that PDFwriter is superior for some uses. It may not be "theoretically correct" for the purists - but it certainly does the business for what we term "simple business documents"! The only problem is we get lots of mail from the purists whenever we promote it. Hmmmm Think I'll keep my head down for a while. ;~) drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 22:07:13-GMT,3866;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18474 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:07:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24684; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:52:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:50:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24576; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:50:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199807242146.VAA16246@ih85.ea.unisys.com> From: "Dembek, Raymond F" Old-To: "'Scott Hamlow'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:49:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Scott, We use PDF to publish documentation for our hardware/software products. A set of documents is published on a CD-ROM with full-text searching via the Acrobat Search engine. We make these same PDF files available to our customers with support contracts on our support WWW server, also searchable. Some of our major releases have hundreds of documents in PDF form. But to my knowledge we are not using PDF for context-sensitive help although we do link from WinHelp files to documentation in PDF form. Could you please explain your Acrobat context-sensitive online Help application? Which Acrobat/PDF attributes made it a good choice for this? Does your help system work with the Reader or require Exchange? Is there any way I might get a look at your context sensitive help file? Ray Dembek Unisys Corp Michigan 734-737-4975 > ---------- > From: Scott Hamlow[SMTP:] > Reply To: > Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 9:22 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] How do you use PDF? > > Greetings Listmembers, > > My manager wants me to explore additional uses for PDF that we could > pass > on to our clients (read "How can we get more money for our products"). > We > currently use it for context-sensitive online Help, but I am curious > as to > how you or your company uses it. > > If you would like to respond, please respond to me directly. Do NOT > reply > to the list, or Kurt might not be too happy. > > --------------------------- > Scott Hamlow > Technical Writer > Endura Software Corporation > Seattle, Washington USA > http://www.enduracorp.com > mailto:scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com > 206.517.6487 > --------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 22:24:36-GMT,2229;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18803 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:24:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25690; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:13:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:11:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25605; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:11:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980724235504.0096a300@193.174.4.1> X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:55:04 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Thomas Merz Subject: [PDF] Re: Creating PDF files on OpenVMS/Alpha Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >From: Ed Albert >This may sound like a pipe dream or something, but does anyone know if >there is a way to create PDF files from an Alpha running OpenVMS v7.1.1? >Trying to encourage paper savings .. and if this could be done, it would be >a big step in saving paper, and maybe even a couple of trees. In addition to Unix and Windows, my PDFlib C library is succesfully used on AS/400. I expect it to also work on OpenVMS, although you may have to write a PDFlib-powered application first... (PDFlib is only a PDF-generating backend to a data formatting frontend which you have to supply). Regards, Thomas _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 22:24:37-GMT,3347;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18807 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:24:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25517; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:09:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:07:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25405; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:07:06 -0500 Message-ID: <35B9057F.38811C15@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:06:55 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Can you import graphics into PDF? References: <199807241809.NAA13369@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA25398 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com One way to do it is with Illustrator/Freehand 8 used in conjunction with Photoshop. (maybe Photoshop 5.0 will open the PDF directly). First open the PDF with Illustrator 6.5 or better. What this does is to cause the PDF to split into two parts, one with type and othe other with images. Open the image directory (that you specify when opening the file) with photoshop and do the swap. Save the swapped image with the same name as the old one. After that, go back to Illustrator and do a save as on the PDF. Note, be careful to keep the image size exactly as the old one that's swapped out because PDF's are object files to the max with very precisely defined areas for any graphics included in the file. The rest should be history but check out the image quality for the swapped file because that can vary with the images that are swapped out. It's kludgey but it does work. HTH R. Moran Justin Blocksom wrote: > Is there a way to delete a graphic from a PDF page and import another into it's place? I have tinkered with PitStop, but this tool seems very limited and unable to do this. Any suggestions? Unfortunately I do not have the native file, that would be too easy. > > Justin Blocksom > Printing & Publications Corp. > jblocksom@printandpub.com > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 22:52:16-GMT,2213;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19267 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:52:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26714; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:37:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:35:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26601; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:35:13 -0500 From: "ian joslin" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Can you import graphics into PDF? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:30:58 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Message-ID: <04c915834221878UPIMSSMTPUSR06@email.msn.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Depending on the involvement, have you tried opening the PDF through Illustrator 7 and resaving as PDF format? The immediate snag is that the file size changes quite a bit, but for the occasional fix it's o.k. Ian Joslin Production Consultant -----Original Message----- From: Justin Blocksom To: pdf Date: 24 July 1998 19:32 Subject: [PDF] Can you import graphics into PDF? >Is there a way to delete a graphic from a PDF page and import another into it's place >jblocksom@printandpub.com > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 24-Jul-1998 23:58:32-GMT,3430;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20493 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:58:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29269; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:46:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:43:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29126; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:43:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:43:12 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFwriter is OK !! To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199807241943_MC2-5420-457C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA29122 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > >Good to see some other fans of PDFwriter out there. We have always >maintained that PDFwriter is superior for some uses. It may not be >"theoretically correct" for the purists - but it certainly does the business >for what we term "simple business documents"! The only problem is we get >lots of mail from the purists whenever we promote it. > I think there is a simple equation: o where the 'native' OS drivers (GDI, QuickDraw) are ok, PDFWriter is ok as well. o Wherever PostScript is usually required, you will need Distiller. Note: Desktop publishing applications (XPress, PageMaker, FreeHand, Illustrator, CorelDraw, etc.) are 'biased' towards PostScript and usually write their own PostScript code (i.e. they more or less bypass the operating system's PostScript printer driver). Nearly any other application - like Word, Excel, ClarisWorks, PowerPoint, Persuasion, etc. - 'thinks' in GDI/QuickDraw and a PDF file created through PDFWriter may often be closer to the look and feel you have directly inside those applications. Only where the functionality of such applications is 'stretched' towards DTP (e.g. if you think about making films/plates or even doing separations from such files) it may sometimes but not necessarily be more adequate to create PostScript first and run it through Distiller. Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 0:29:04-GMT,2046;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20979 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:29:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA30423; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:16:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:14:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA30308; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:14:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980724171251.0068d100@axe.humboldt.edu> X-Sender: cea7002@axe.humboldt.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:12:51 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ed Albert Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF-Writer In-Reply-To: <199807242057.PAA21728@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com PDF-Writer has definitely saved our bacon.... We convert tabular fiscal large reports directly to PDF using PDF-Writer. One less transistion, clean columns, no fuss, no muss. These reports run 11-12,000 pages, and originate on a VAX. All I do is ftp the files, open them in PFE (a large file editior). run a macro to put in form feeds, and print using PDF-Writer. PDF-Writer lets me set up the paper size (custom: 14 7/8" wide by 11" high ...greenbar), and off it goes. Takes about 30 minutes to process the page, another 30 for me to bookmark, and all done. Ed Cave canem .... _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 1:18:29-GMT,2414;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21860 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:18:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32247; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:05:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:02:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA32052; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:01:58 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199807241809.NAA13369@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 02:44:53 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Can you import graphics into PDF? Cc: Justin Blocksom Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Justin, it depends a bit on the PDF page, but you can try to open the PDF file in Adobe Illustrator (preferrably 7.01) and make your changes there. Then you may have to stitch together the document in Exchange and save it. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Is there a way to delete a graphic from a PDF page and import another into >it's place? I have tinkered with PitStop, but this tool seems very limited >and unable to do this. Any suggestions? Unfortunately I do not have the >native file, that would be too easy. > >Justin Blocksom >Printing & Publications Corp. >jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 1:18:36-GMT,3475;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21866 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:18:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32244; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:04:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:01:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA32011; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:01:51 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 02:41:56 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] "The document could not be saved. There was a problem reading thi s document (110)." Cc: Nathan Keller Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Nathan, I have had such problems in the past. They almost always occured when I was trying to save the file with optimization activated. Exchange needs quite a bit of memory and disk space on the system partition to optimize a file. Also (on the Mac) there seems to be a very small memory leak when you open and save and close files; the result is that Exchange runs out of resources. One possibility is to save the file not optimized, quit Exchange (quit all other non-system critical applications) restart Exchange and try to save the file again, now optimized. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >When trying to "Save as PDF..." in Acrobat Exchange we get an error >message: "The document could not be saved. There was a problem reading >this document (110)." > >This sometimes occurs when a large number of links have been created on >one page (like on an index page). It also occurs sometimes, rather than >right after the links were all created, after a few of those have been >fixed (correctly linked). > >Does anyone know of an upper limit imposed by the software? A way to >change this upper limit? We have plenty of memory and the process of >saving does not even use all of the available CPU processing power. In >Macintoshes you can (or at least, used to be able to) change the >available memory space devoted to a particular application (in the Get >Info Dialog Box). On PCs, this is not done. > >We are using Win NT, 300 MHz, 128 Mg RAM PCs. > >TIA, > > >Nathan Keller >Technical Support >Career Guidance Foundation >nathank@cgf.org >(800) 854-2670 >http://www.collegesource.org > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 1:19:19-GMT,3663;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21879 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:19:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32245; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:04:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:01:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA32036; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:01:57 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199807241517.IAA20836@scotland.it.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 02:24:41 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from PageMaker 6.5 Cc: "C. Scott Miller" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA32001 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com C.Scott, It could lead to some kind of a "holy war", this discussion about PDFWriter. There is a danger if PDFWriter gets wide spread and "sold" as the solution for MessyOffice software. Users (and their bosses) do get to see only a limited part of the capabilities of PDF format. They only get the "a little bit better than paper" aspect. So, if it gets to some fundamental decisions within corporations, which way to go for documentation etc. the PDF format is sold under its value ... particularly when compared to HTML based solutions. I am also not sure how much file bloat is created by PDFWriter, compared to Distiller (and then batch optimized with Exchange). Another thing I am not quite sure, but I think it can be attributed to PDFWriter (or better, TrueType fonts) is that the file displays slower. So, IMHO, "flooding the world" with PDFWriter (as it is apparently done with that cheapo PDFWriter/Reader bundle), will do more harm to the PDF format than good ... in the long term. Just another Zweiräppler. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ > >I cannot agree 100%. >I used to consider PDFWriter the "cheap solution" for creating PDF files. No >longer. PDFWriter is actually superior for some use - most notably Microsoft >Office applications, which is where most potential users of PDF reside. >Try taking an Excel chart and Distill it. Then try printing it out through >PDFWriter. My charts are truer to the original using PDFWriter. Another >issue is TrueType fonts - PDFWriter seems to handle them more consistently, >and with fewer problems, than Distiller. Basically, it gets down to a >question of Postscript. If the original has it, use Distiller - if it >doesn't, hey PDFWriter might make more sense. > >C. Scott Miller _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 1:21:35-GMT,3302;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21928 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:21:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32246; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:05:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:01:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA31957; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:01:37 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980724122853.007e8140@mail.btinternet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:57:26 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from PageMaker 6.5 Cc: David J Murray Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com David, There is one way you should be able to include links like "go to next page" etc. However, this method does include Distiller (either open or hidden). You can create very basic EPS files containing the PDFMARK command. This command includes PostScript code specifically for Distiller (and which is ignored by other printers). You may have a look at Adobe TechNote 5150, the PDFMARK Reference Manual. You find this document either on the Acrobat 3.01 CD or in the developer section of the Adobe website. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ > I wonder if anyone can help me. I'm creating PDF files from PageMaker 6.5 > via the export function (i.e. not by printing to Distiller). I currently > have two problems. > > 1. Several of my pages include Windows metafiles. They all end up in the > pdf looking great EXCEPT that they all have half an inch missing at the > right-hand side. I've tried everything I can think of but nothing makes > any difference. > > 2. Hyperlinks made in PageMaker transfer to pdf with no problem, but this > seems only to be possible when a specific destination page in specified. > Does anyone know a way of getting relative navigation, especially "Back" > and "Nextpage" links, into the file? If I can put these into a master page > in Pagemaker I'll save having to enter them manually several hundred times > using Exchange, but I can't find any way of doing it. > > Thanks in anticipation, > > - David Murray - > Maine Consulting Services, UK. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 2:57:59-GMT,3256;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23449 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:57:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03247; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:42:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:39:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03088; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:39:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: PDF-Writer Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:43:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Ed: What I get from your comment is that PDFWriter has found a great use in a highly specifc application. It's no argument for PDFWriter for the masses, however. Max Wyss made some superd points, which I won't reiterate (per se). The killer fact is that in most circumstances (and for anyone using TT fonts, which is most of the world), PDFWriter creates files substantially larger than those generated by Distiller. ...a true story.... I was contacted by Adobe several months ago to complete a user survey on a certain unnamed product. I was e-mailed a PDF file (surprise, surprise), but was mortified to discover that the five page, fairly simple-layout document took up about 800k! (no, I don't have the file anymore) The file did NOT contain any fields. An examination of the file revealed (a) a bunch of TT fonts (yuck!).... and it smelled of PDFWriter. I answered the questionaire by editing in my answers with the Text tool (I must have had a screw loose that day). I then re-Distilled the file (a practice Adobe does not support, which is too bad), and returned it to the sender. The file I sent back was about 200k. I was disappointed - authored correctly it should have been about 60-80k. The true costs of PDFWriter, therefore, should also be measured in the vast quantities of disc space these files will consume. My Martian friend says that it looks very like Adobe is in cahoots with the drive manufacturers! I told him that he's nuts. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Albert [mailto:cea7002@axe.humboldt.edu] > Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 5:13 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF-Writer > > > PDF-Writer has definitely saved our bacon.... We convert > tabular fiscal > large reports directly to PDF using PDF-Writer. One less transistion, > clean columns, no fuss, no muss. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 3:01:25-GMT,1940;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23507 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:01:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03674; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:53:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:51:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03554; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:51:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:54:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Love this thread..... One interesting implementation is the scanning and PDFing of large-format (B/A3 size to E/A0) drawings. The beauty here is for archival and reference purposes. Of course, PDF makes a lousy CAD source, but for being free, the Reader is a fine large format viewing tool. We are also working with large-format implementations that involve image-maps (well, links, but it works the same) on exploded diagrams to assist in navigation. The "session" arrows (Forward and Back) are superb in this context. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 4:06:59-GMT,3257;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24621 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:06:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05838; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:52:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:49:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05714; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:49:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199807250349.UAA13233@tern.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:49:57 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from PageMaker 6.5 From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >It could lead to some kind of a "holy war", this discussion about PDFWriter. To me the challenge is not getting people to create PDF correctly. The challenge is to get them to use it at all. PDFWriter is a baby step to a greater appreciation of the ease and value of using cross-platform, content rich electronic documents instead of paper. I gave a presentation to an august group in a research institute. I explained the elegance of vectors vs. bitmaps, the pitfalls of HTML vs. the power of PDF, the how-to's of distilling to PDF, and the breadth of its uses. And I totally lost a large portion of my audience. Why? Because most of them used Word and Excel and couldn't care less about pre-press, postscript, document capture, forms, or EDMS. They were wondering why they should bother and how hard it is to use. PDFWriter may not produce "the ultimate" PDF file, but it can service the needs of a great number of writers, managers, researchers, and their staffs who need to create and distribute documents electronically over the web or as email. Compare the number of Word users to QuarkXPress users and a heavily skewed demand picture should emerge. Having a great idea, product or, in this case, format is not enough. If changing behavior is the challenge, then PDFWriter has a role to play. I feel confident that PDF will establish a strong base of Reader users because of paper to PDF conversions. Less clear is how many Reader users will try to create PDFs themselves. I believe the PDFWriter/Reader bundle will help familiarize many hesitant users with the PDF creation process. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 4:08:44-GMT,2350;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24644 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:08:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA06084; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:58:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:56:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05965; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:56:42 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6024C9A@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] capture error Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:12:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com No, This is NOT correct! 1. When a document with vectorized info is displayed on the screen, it's converted to screen image through GDI. But it is still vector "in" the application. 2. The screen display is indeed image--72DPI. Not much use for Capture/OCR use. 3. Try to zoom-in any true type font, then zoom-in a true image picture, you'll see the difference. Vincent Huang Developer of PageGenie PRO 2000 The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR Tool http://www.pagegenie.com > I now understand the Capture plug-in limitation that the page to be > captured > must be a pure bitmap, although that makes little sense. Since any > PDF > document that you view on-screen has already been transformed into a > bitmap > (the individual pixels that you see on your monitor) by the Acrobat > Exchange > rasterizer, why not allow Capture to operate against that bitmapped > image? > Requiring that Capture be given an actual file that's a pure bitmap > seems > like a fairly arbitrary retriction. > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 5:01:30-GMT,2565;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA25543 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:01:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07749; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:47:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:44:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07609; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:44:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:18:01 -0500 (GMT) From: Satyanarayan X-Sender: usatra01@obelix To: pdf Subject: RE: [PDF] Can you import graphics into PDF? In-Reply-To: <199807241855.NAA15996@everglades.binc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello Justin, > Kevin, > Thanks, but extraction/deletion is only 1/2 of it. What about importation > of graphics? And it is not a page replacement, they are graphic(s) on a > PDF page that needs to be removed and replaced. Or have I misunderstood > you? Please clarify. Other suggestions? Thanks. > > Justin Blocksom > jblocksom@printandpub.com You will have to use Capture and Reviewer for doing what you want to do. If you have a document with color pages or documents in which you would like to change the graphics, then Scan the pages in 300 DPI B/W and also at 72 DPI Color. Using Capture OCR the B/W Images and clean up the text using Reviewer software. Now you can delete the B/W graphics and insert the color graphics and save as PDF to produce a good compact file. You can do the same to a PDF Image only file. Feel free to contact me directly in case you need any further assistance. With best regards Satyanarayan --------------------------------------- | Satyanarayan R. Bindingnavale | | ___________________________________ | | E-mail: satya@vetri.com | --------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 8:19:05-GMT,2088;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA28941 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 02:19:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA13030; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:07:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:02:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA12853; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:02:16 -0500 Message-ID: <35B991FE.C7F64D0C@pgc1.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:06:25 -0500 From: Michael Conchola X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] CD ROMS References: <000301bd9ff6$fa05d7a0$5900a8c0@dale.qspl.stpp.soft.net> <3591F27D.3DB95ABC@nng.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello everyone and thanks for all the help I have a question I have created an interactive document, burned it to a CD ROM and made it auto executible upon insertion of the CD. When I put it into my computer everything works fine. As I took it to my customer he insert it into his computer and it did not fully auto execute it partially executed then froze up. I burned the CD ROM from a PC. I then took it to a friend and he has a Macintosh he burned the same information to a CD Rom and I took it to the customer and it worked perfect. Both CD Burners were Phillips, I was wondering if anyone had a clue??? Please help.... Thanks mikec@pgc1.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 9:45:24-GMT,3437;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00335 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:45:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15366; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 04:33:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Jul 1998 04:30:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15284; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 04:30:15 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 11:22:31 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: PDF-Writer Cc: Duff Johnson Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA15280 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Duff, shouldn't your Martian friend have said that it looks very like Adobe is in cahoots with _telecom companies_ . PDF files are sent around, by e-mail, for example, and then again, they get a bad reputation for being bloated ("thanks" to suboptimally used products to create them). On the other hand, we have to keep in mind that fiddling around with Distiller settings etc. is somewhat problematic as well. So, in order to have a product "for the masses", it would need to be way more sophisticated than the "expert" product, as it would need to include some of the knowledge/logic/etc. the experts bing in. ... but then, I have serious doubts that this would be a $29.95 product anymore... Another Zweiräppler. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >...a true story.... > >I was contacted by Adobe several months ago to complete a user survey on >a certain unnamed product. I was e-mailed a PDF file (surprise, >surprise), but was mortified to discover that the five page, fairly >simple-layout document took up about 800k! (no, I don't have the file >anymore) The file did NOT contain any fields. An examination of the >file revealed (a) a bunch of TT fonts (yuck!).... and it smelled of >PDFWriter. > > >The true costs of PDFWriter, therefore, should also be measured in the >vast quantities of disc space these files will consume. My Martian >friend says that it looks very like Adobe is in cahoots with the drive >manufacturers! I told him that he's nuts. > >Duff Johnson >Document Solutions, Inc. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 13:33:37-GMT,2972;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03511 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:33:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21788; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 08:19:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Jul 1998 08:14:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21592; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 08:14:18 -0500 Message-ID: <35B9CCB2.8917D547@realworld.com.au> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 23:17:11 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] CD ROMS References: <000301bd9ff6$fa05d7a0$5900a8c0@dale.qspl.stpp.soft.net> <3591F27D.3DB95ABC@nng.net> <35B991FE.C7F64D0C@pgc1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi Mike, a little more detail please Michael Conchola wrote: > Hello everyone and thanks for all the help > I have a question I have created an interactive document, burned it to a CD > ROM and made it auto executible upon insertion of the CD. Mac, Iso, Hybrid ? Burner software and platform ? > When I put it into > my computer everything works fine. Mac or Win ? OS ? > As I took it to my customer he insert it > into his computer Mac Win ? OS ? > and it did not fully auto execute it partially executed > then froze up. I burned the CD ROM from a PC. > I then took it to a friend and > he has a Macintosh he burned the same information to a CD Rom Burner software ? > and I took it > to the customer and it worked perfect. Both CD Burners were Phillips, I was > wondering if anyone had a clue??? Please help.... Thanks > > mikec@pgc1.com > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ At the moment all I can suggest is ....buy a Mac! :-) Seriously, there was a long thread on xplatform burning recently and one of the points to emerge was the seeming ease and reliability of burning off the Mac. (No Holy Wars will be entered into) Look forward to more info Dean _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 15:29:00-GMT,2335;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05202 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:28:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25632; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:17:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:16:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25544; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:16:20 -0500 From: Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 17:16:05 +0200 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: To: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <199807231921.AA04988@interlock.mgh.com> Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Importance: Low X-Mailer: DX-MAIL V2.21 (DX-MAIL X.400/MIME-Switch V2.02) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="GImx46LA6O6v3aAEtXmpIJnle9CkTnNs" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com --GImx46LA6O6v3aAEtXmpIJnle9CkTnNs Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > > I saw alot of discussion on the list yesterday on this subject. I'm = > interested to know what the best solution found was. > = > Corbin > The Acrobat Exchange can import TIFF files itself (File -> Import). This works really perfectly. I have tried it with many different TIFF types, it always worked OK. Well, this is not so surprising as Adobe is currently the owner of the TIFF specification petr.fexa@wien.materna.de --GImx46LA6O6v3aAEtXmpIJnle9CkTnNs Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: a21215a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent= --GImx46LA6O6v3aAEtXmpIJnle9CkTnNs-- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 18:32:55-GMT,2518;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08089 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:32:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31828; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 13:18:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Jul 1998 13:14:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31706; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 13:14:22 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980725181403.00d81e84@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 11:14:03 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com re: >I have tried it with many different TIFF types, it always worked OK. Thanks for pointing this out. Your message prompted me to try an Exchange Import of a GroupIV encoded TIF (a fax file), which *cannot* be read by Adobe Photoshop and, to my amazement, it worked! This eliminates the need for a separate graphics conversion program, and may be of some help to those many people who have, in the past, asked this list for help dealing with fax files (e.g., saving faxes as PDF). Going one step further, one can process the Imported fax/TIF using the Capture plug-in, and produce a searchable text version of the fax, which could make the PDF very useful for archival applications; i.e., when saved as a "Image+Text" PDF. Tom Thiersch At 05:16 PM 7/25/98 +0200, you wrote: >The Acrobat Exchange can import TIFF files itself (File -> Import). >This works really perfectly. >I have tried it with many different TIFF types, >it always worked OK. >Well, this is not so surprising >as Adobe is currently the owner of the TIFF specification > >petr.fexa@wien.materna.de >IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: >a21215a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 21:36:39-GMT,1910;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10226 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 15:36:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05207; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:18:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:15:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05068; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:15:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199807252022.NAA20715@stork.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 13:24:47 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF from PageMaker 6.5 From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >So, IMHO, "flooding the world" with PDFWriter (as it is apparently done >with that cheapo PDFWriter/Reader bundle), will do more harm to the PDF >format than good ... in the long term. I have never seen this bundle offer. Does anyone have a link? C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 25-Jul-1998 23:22:41-GMT,2471;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11316 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 17:22:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09016; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 18:03:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Jul 1998 18:00:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08804; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 18:00:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: PDF-Writer Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:03:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Max: > shouldn't your Martian friend have said that it looks very > like Adobe is in > cahoots with _telecom companies_ . PDF files are sent > around, by e-mail, > for example, and then again, they get a bad reputation for > being bloated > ("thanks" to suboptimally used products to create them). Hmm. I'll ask... He says that you're right! What's more, he senses (Martians are very good at this), that the _real_ definition of PDF is "Pretty Darn Fat" He thinks that a global diet of Distilled PostScript is called for. > On the other hand, we have to keep in mind that fiddling around with > Distiller settings etc. is somewhat problematic as well. So, > in order to > have a product "for the masses", it would need to be way more > sophisticated > than the "expert" product, as it would need to include some of the > knowledge/logic/etc. the experts bing in. ... but then, I have serious > doubts that this would be a $29.95 product anymore... I should have mentioned that the Martian owns a service bureau.... Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 26-Jul-1998 7:41:08-GMT,3514;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18313 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 01:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24799; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 02:29:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 02:27:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24718; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 02:27:24 -0500 From: Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:26:55 +0200 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: To: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980725181403.00d81e84@env-sol.com> Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Importance: Low X-Mailer: DX-MAIL V2.21 (DX-MAIL X.400/MIME-Switch V2.02) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="9tLm7liHNXZwSpL3IMHWBgQgrK7Lo6ol" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com --9tLm7liHNXZwSpL3IMHWBgQgrK7Lo6ol Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable >>re: >I have tried it with many different TIFF types, it always worked OK. > >Thanks for pointing this out. Your message prompted me to try an Exchange >Import of a GroupIV encoded TIF (a fax file), which *cannot* be read by >Adobe Photoshop and, to my amazement, it worked! This seemes to be a "hot" theme, so here are some more experiences of mine = ... We cooperate with a company which delivers us TIFF files (scans, but not on= ly). This company has written its own software for image handling (and also for TIFF generating). The problem is that this software "has not really matured yet" - the format changes often and is not always correct. Our task is to further process these image for special purposes. The hard part is not this special processing but the reading of the "instable" input. After I have found out how good the Acrobat Exchange in TIFF importing is, I always check my input TIFF files with this import function when I have problems reading it with my routines. - Exchanges imports OK =3D=3D> I seek the bug in my software. - Exchanges brings an error =3D=3D> well, I call my friends and tell them that their TIFF are not TIFF norm compliant. So easy it is to check the TIFF norm conformity as Adobe really seems to have solved this part perfectly. Congratulations! Still a word on "Photoshop CANNOT read TIFF G4". Well, I personally would like this functionallity too, but I can excuse this lack: Photoshop as the name already says is meant for handling of photos, but you normally never get photos in Group4 compression, it's purpose is simply a different one. petr.fexa@wien.materna.de --9tLm7liHNXZwSpL3IMHWBgQgrK7Lo6ol Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: a12262a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent= --9tLm7liHNXZwSpL3IMHWBgQgrK7Lo6ol-- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 26-Jul-1998 10:02:03-GMT,1871;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20505 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 04:02:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28557; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 04:51:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 04:50:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28520; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 04:50:17 -0500 Message-ID: <35BAC34A.B4685964@nycap.rr.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 05:48:40 +0000 From: David Doonan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf list Subject: [PDF] Docmaker to PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, Is there a way to take a finished DOCmaker file and convert it into a PDF without having the original files that created the DOCmaker file? Exchange and Distiller will not recognize it (at least for moi). Thanks. -- David Doonan ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com http://home.nycap.rr.com/dadoonans/ http://members.tripod.com/~greenwichptsa IP 204.210.176.42 Positively Main Street web design Greenwich, New York . . . The best small town in the world! _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 26-Jul-1998 14:34:55-GMT,2090;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24489 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 08:34:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03165; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:23:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:19:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03007; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:19:38 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980726151255.007e3b80@mail.btinternet.com> X-Sender: djm.lists@mail.btinternet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:12:55 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David J Murray Subject: [PDF] Compose - from Ambia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I asked recently about adding links in bulk to long, multi-page PDFs. Thanks to those who responded. I've looked at the EPS method, but I'm not a techie (merely a simply-minded mouse-clicker) and find it a bit too messy. Meanwhile I've found a plug-in, or set of plug-ins, from Ambia called Compose. It seems to do what I want but doesn't come cheap by the standards of a one-man office. Does anyone have experience of it? And could I end up buying it then discovering in a few weeks that Adobe issue an upgrade including most of the Compose functionality built as standard into Exchange? Any advice/thoughts welcome. - David Murray - Maine Consulting Services, UK _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 26-Jul-1998 14:34:56-GMT,3571;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24488 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 08:34:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03166; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:23:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:19:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03046; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:19:50 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980726150421.007ce540@mail.btinternet.com> X-Sender: djm.lists@mail.btinternet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:04:21 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David J Murray Subject: [PDF] PDF including WMFs - from PM65 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Thanks to all who wrote in response to my query. I'm still having difficulty getting WMF graphics on PageMaker 6.5 pages to show up correctly in pdf. In light of the debate on PDFwriter which somehow developed from my initial question I'll list some of my experiences. I have PageMaker 6.5 and the latest version of Acrobat purchased about three months ago. (And at Dov's suggestion I upgraded the driver). I have three primary alternatives in producing pdf from PM65 files: (a) Use PM65's "Export to pdf" function - which goes through Distiller; (b) Print to Distiller via Distiller Assistant; (c) Print to PDFwriter. Results are as follows: (a) "Export to pdf" All pages printed to pdf well, except for those including wmf graphics which have the right hand end of the graphic missing; all links in the PageMaker file transfer successfully. (b) Print to Distiller via Distiller Assistant When printed at 100% size, similar result to Export. When printed at 85% size, full wmf graphics are printed, but this gives an unwanted white border, and worse - the links do not transfer (at both 85% and 100%). (c) Print to PDFwriter Full wmf graphic is printed - but not the full page. The left-hand side and bottom inch of the page does not appear at all in the pdf. SUMMARY - I'm not winning here! "Export to pdf" is the best bet so far - but I'll have to re-do the graphics to avoid using the old WMF files; also, files produced by "Export" are approx 50% larger than those produced by "Print to Distiller". Or does anyone have a better suggestion? I'd love to talk to someone who has got wmf graphics into pdf successfully, ... and to know how it's done. - David Murray - ps. Incidentally, with regards to that PDFwriter debate. I'll just keep it down-to-earth and practical. I had some txt files to convert. Printing them to Distiller got nothing but error messages. Printing to PDFwriter gave good PDFs only very marginally larger in size than the initial txt file. It's a case of "horses for courses". For my graphic slides for PageMaker it has proved worse than useless. For simple text files it is great! - DJM - _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 26-Jul-1998 16:12:57-GMT,2369;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25938 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:12:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06261; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:03:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:02:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06209; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:02:06 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980726160216.00d81ff0@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:02:16 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDF from PageMaker 6.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Go to the familiar Acrobat reader download page, http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html and you'll see the promo for this 'special offer' combo at the top of the page. Tom Thiersch At 01:24 PM 7/25/98 -0800, you wrote: >>So, IMHO, "flooding the world" with PDFWriter (as it is apparently done >>with that cheapo PDFWriter/Reader bundle), will do more harm to the PDF >>format than good ... in the long term. > >I have never seen this bundle offer. Does anyone have a link? > >C. Scott Miller > >PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n >A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format >http://www.performancegraphics.com > >a production of Performance Graphics >miller@performancegraphics.com > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 26-Jul-1998 16:33:25-GMT,2816;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26296 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:33:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06966; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:26:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:25:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06932; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:25:11 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980726162523.00d84298@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:25:23 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Photoshop 4, one of Adobe's top of the line products designed to manipulate images of all types (not just "photos"), and which is able to import graphics in literally dozens of formats, cannot read one of the most widely used graphics formats (think about how many faxes are sent by PCs these days, most of them encoded as G-IV). And yet, Adobe Acrobat Exchange, a page publication tool with essentially no graphics manipulation capabilities, can read the G-IV format. I realize that there are a large number of differences between the many formats that are called "TIFF", but I think it's ironic that Acrobat Exchange can read a very common variation of TIFF that Photoshop can't; in fact, I never even bothered to try this with Exchange until it was mentioned on PDF-L. Perhaps it's been fixed in Photoshop 5. Anyway, my recent 'discovery' of how easily Exchange allows me to view faxes and save them in PDF is just one more bonus feature of Acrobat that I plan to use a lot. Tom Thiersch At 09:26 AM 7/26/98 +0200, you wrote: >... >Still a word on "Photoshop CANNOT read TIFF G4". >Well, I personally would like this functionallity too, >but I can excuse this lack: >Photoshop as the name already says is meant for handling >of photos, but you normally never get photos in Group4 >compression, it's purpose is simply a different one. > >petr.fexa@wien.materna.de >IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: >a12262a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 26-Jul-1998 16:37:49-GMT,2044;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26340 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:37:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07200; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:30:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:29:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07107; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:29:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Compose - from Ambia Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:33:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com David: > Meanwhile I've found a plug-in, or set of plug-ins, from Ambia called > Compose. It seems to do what I want but doesn't come cheap by the > standards of a one-man office. Does anyone have experience > of it? And > could I end up buying it then discovering in a few weeks that > Adobe issue > an upgrade including most of the Compose functionality built > as standard > into Exchange? Compose is an excellent tool, albeit with many little "gotchas" spread liberally throughout. Some of these can really irritate! Exchange is unlikely to recieve most of Compose's functionality anytime soon (as far as I know). Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 26-Jul-1998 16:47:08-GMT,2344;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26505 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:47:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07467; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:37:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:36:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07418; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:36:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:40:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Tom: > Photoshop 4, one of Adobe's top of the line products designed > to manipulate > images of all types (not just "photos"), and which is able to import > graphics in literally dozens of formats, cannot read one of > the most widely > used graphics formats (think about how many faxes are sent by > PCs these > days, most of them encoded as G-IV). And yet, Adobe Acrobat > Exchange, a > page publication tool with essentially no graphics manipulation > capabilities, can read the G-IV format. I think the essential reason here is that G4 is utilized fundamentally for document imaging while, as you note, Photoshop is a graphics application - not a document imaging application per se. The other reason that the Photoshop folks would care little for G4 is that it's a bitonal-only compression scheme - which makes it exceptionally boring as far as graphics arts people are concerned. And no, Photoshop 5 doesn't support G4. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 26-Jul-1998 20:40:02-GMT,2597;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00172 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:40:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13746; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:58:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:56:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13629; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:56:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980726214214.00952bc0@193.174.4.1> X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:42:14 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Thomas Merz Subject: [PDF] Re: How do you use PDF? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I use PDF files for presentations in training classes and lectures. Using a screen-friendly layout and color scheme PDF files are perfectly suited for presentations to an arbitrary large audience, provided a beamer is available. Compared to PowerPoint, I especially like the font handling. PowerPoint often trashes the character spacing and produces huge files. Working on such presentations, I discovered some interesting details of PDF optimization. Consider this: Original PS file (70 "slides"): 30 MB Distilled PDF file: 10 MB (fonts embedded, no downsampling, ZIP) Optimized PDF file: 1 MB (!) Why? My slides use a constant background image on every page which -- although I use a resolution suitable for screen -- bloats the resulting PDF. Optimization removes the redundant 69 background image, leaving the image data only once and referring to the same image on all 70 pages. Since the presentations use the same size and position for the image, the optimization feature has an easy job. Thomas Merz _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 26-Jul-1998 20:40:02-GMT,2030;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00176 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:40:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13745; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:58:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:56:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13652; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:56:15 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980726211950.0096ce20@193.174.4.1> X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:19:50 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Thomas Merz Subject: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >From: Duff Johnson >Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? > >Love this thread..... > >One interesting implementation is the scanning and PDFing of >large-format (B/A3 size to E/A0) drawings. You sure know that A0 is beyond Acrobat's current page size limit!? Note that since it is a limitation of the Acrobat implementation (as opposed to the PDF format itself), the limit may be raised in future releases. Thomas Merz _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 26-Jul-1998 20:58:45-GMT,2616;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00512 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:58:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14328; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:16:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:15:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14300; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:15:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Sender: docconv@popd.ix.netcom.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:23:18 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sri Satagopan Subject: Re: [PDF] CD ROMS In-Reply-To: <35B991FE.C7F64D0C@pgc1.com> References: <000301bd9ff6$fa05d7a0$5900a8c0@dale.qspl.stpp.soft.net> <3591F27D.3DB95ABC@nng.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, What are the burning speeds in both. It has got something to do with the burners and not the OS. Try burning at a higher speed IBM, it may work. Sri >Hello everyone and thanks for all the help >I have a question I have created an interactive document, burned it to a CD >ROM and made it auto executible upon insertion of the CD. When I put it into >my computer everything works fine. As I took it to my customer he insert it >into his computer and it did not fully auto execute it partially executed >then froze up. I burned the CD ROM from a PC. I then took it to a friend and >he has a Macintosh he burned the same information to a CD Rom and I took it >to the customer and it worked perfect. Both CD Burners were Phillips, I was >wondering if anyone had a clue??? Please help.... Thanks > >mikec@pgc1.com > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 1:00:46-GMT,3624;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04691 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:00:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22817; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:45:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:38:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22549; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:38:38 -0500 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509869984@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] CD ROMS Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:39:33 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Did you use the same media (CD) both times? We've found that some generic (off brand) CDs just will not play on some CD readers. The CD writers indicate successful burn, and our tests show they're O.K. However, we found some customers had various problems, such as they won't auto boot. We first thought it was older hardware, but recently found that a brand new laptop model could not read the generic CDs 100% of the time. Now we're using name brand (Kodak, Phillips, etc.), and have not run into any problems. > Jose Mera > Business Area Manager > Alliant Techsystems > 13133 34th Street North > Clearwater, FL 33762 > Voice: (727)572-2491 > WWW: http://ais.atk.com > > ---------- > From: Sri Satagopan[SMTP:docconv@ix.netcom.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 1998 1:23 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] CD ROMS > > Hi, > > What are the burning speeds in both. It has got something to do with > the > burners and not the OS. Try burning at a higher speed IBM, it may > work. > > Sri > > >Hello everyone and thanks for all the help > >I have a question I have created an interactive document, burned it > to a CD > >ROM and made it auto executible upon insertion of the CD. When I put > it into > >my computer everything works fine. As I took it to my customer he > insert it > >into his computer and it did not fully auto execute it partially > executed > >then froze up. I burned the CD ROM from a PC. I then took it to a > friend and > >he has a Macintosh he burned the same information to a CD Rom and I > took it > >to the customer and it worked perfect. Both CD Burners were Phillips, > I was > >wondering if anyone had a clue??? Please help.... Thanks > > > >mikec@pgc1.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > >_______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 1:56:02-GMT,1891;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05634 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:55:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25035; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:41:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:40:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24996; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:40:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF? Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:43:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Tom: > You sure know that A0 is beyond Acrobat's current page size limit!? > Note that since it is a limitation of the Acrobat implementation > (as opposed to the PDF format itself), the limit may be raised in > future releases. I hope so. For the moment -- and you are right -- we have to squeeze A0 a few percent to get it to PDF. Don't see too many A0's, though (in California). I'd certainly vote for Adobe to accomodate the largest drawings and maps in Acrobat. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 3:54:38-GMT,2107;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07635 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:54:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29069; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:39:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:37:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29001; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:37:43 -0500 From: RobertB425@aol.com Message-ID: <99221b83.35bbf5f1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 23:37:20 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I am using PDF for an engineering textbook with equations, figures, notes, references, questions with answers, quick time movies, with links to each of these items. I intend to put the book on the web, on a CD, and have traditional paper copies printed. Has anyone else tried this? One suggestion I submitted to Adobe was the addition of a highlighting capability. Students highlight the important parts of paper textbooks so they can quickly find this material. Acrobat Reader should also have this capability so students can quickly find the material in the PDF file. If any of you agree with me, perhaps enough suggestions to Adobe will make this happen. Robert E. Ball Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics Naval Postgraduate School Monterey, CA 93943 USA _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 4:40:14-GMT,2271;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08406 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:40:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA30106; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 23:11:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Jul 1998 23:10:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA30071; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 23:10:10 -0500 From: "Luke Michael Muszkiewicz" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] "The document could not be saved. There was a problem reading this document (110)." Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:15:21 -0600 Message-ID: <01bdb915$2bfb6770$516d729e@inet_1.hln.bdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello All, I have been working on rather large PDF documents that contain numerous from fields complete with JavaScript, etc. I often receive this error, but find that usually if I attempt another "Save-As" everything works the second time around. In fact, most of the time I just close the file after I receive the errror and all of my changes are preserved (despite the error message). My documents seem to work fine, is this error _really_ an error at all? Been wondering for some time, -luke Luke Muszkiewicz TRW, Inc., S&ITG >When trying to "Save as PDF..." in Acrobat Exchange we get an error >message: "The document could not be saved. There was a problem reading >this document (110)." _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 6:21:06-GMT,2423;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10482 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 00:21:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00808; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 01:03:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 01:01:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00735; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 01:01:48 -0500 Message-ID: <35BC1565.13321C76@psnw.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:51:33 -0700 From: Lynda Schrumpf Organization: P&L Marketing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Compose - from Ambia References: <3.0.3.32.19980726151255.007e3b80@mail.btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com David, We purchased Compose last month and have had some limited use of several of it's features, it works well so far and it well worth the $$ as our project involves about 2200 pdf's. It does not do 1 thing we needed which is to replicate (copy) identical links for groups of pdf files, it will only copy links to pages within the same pdf file. Lynda Schrumpf pacific publishing P&L Marketing Visalia, CA > Meanwhile I've found a plug-in, or set of plug-ins, from Ambia called > Compose. It seems to do what I want but doesn't come cheap by the > standards of a one-man office. Does anyone have experience of it? > > Any advice/thoughts welcome. > > - David Murray - > Maine Consulting Services, UK > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 8:49:10-GMT,1782;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13082 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 02:49:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04632; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 03:33:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 03:23:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04372; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 03:23:44 -0500 Message-ID: <35BCC69D.BA012648@palmerhiggs.com.au> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:27:42 +0000 From: simon Longstaff Organization: Palmer Higgs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Chinese PDF's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Does anybody know much about distilling chinese ps fonts from quark. They seem to bitmap or not print at all but printed from quark they are fine. To set the characters I'm using the Chinese Language Kit, has anyone heard of some plug-in that you may need for exchange or distiller? Thanks Simon Longstaff _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 9:29:50-GMT,3424;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13754 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 03:29:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05551; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 04:07:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 03:59:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05296; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 03:59:42 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01bdb915$2bfb6770$516d729e@inet_1.hln.bdm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 10:56:52 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] "The document could not be saved. There was a problem reading this document (110)." Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Luke, >From my experience (also with documents with lots of fields), this error comes when Exchange tries to optimize the document. Before Exchange does this, it saves the document (like the "Save" command). Only then, it starts to optimize (and write a bunch of temporary files). This is the reason why you can continue working with the document. Usually, quitting and restarting Exchange makes the file "optimizable" again. However, sufficient RAM and disk space on the system partition will be needed (for the files I am using, it is about 2 to 3 times the non-optimized file size). Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Hello All, > >I have been working on rather large PDF documents that contain numerous from >fields complete with JavaScript, etc. I often receive this error, but find >that usually if I attempt another "Save-As" everything works the second time >around. In fact, most of the time I just close the file after I receive the >errror and all of my changes are preserved (despite the error message). My >documents seem to work fine, is this error _really_ an error at all? > >Been wondering for some time, > >-luke > >Luke Muszkiewicz >TRW, Inc., S&ITG > >>When trying to "Save as PDF..." in Acrobat Exchange we get an error >>message: "The document could not be saved. There was a problem reading >>this document (110)." > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 10:31:17-GMT,1699;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14724 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 04:31:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07393; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 05:12:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 05:11:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07335; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 05:11:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199807271011.UAA02791@mail.mel.aone.net.au> X-Sender: ca069690@mail01.mel.aone.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 20:23:48 +1000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bryan Gracey Subject: [PDF] Re: Combining 200 single PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Is there a quick way to combine 200 PDF files into one PDF ? e.g. can a batch file be written to do this or is there some utility that can perform this function rather than opening and adding in Exchange? Any advice would be appreciated. Bryan Gracey _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 11:31:41-GMT,1914;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15955 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 05:31:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09273; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 06:14:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 06:12:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09209; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 06:12:46 -0500 From: baruch@mercury.co.il X-Lotus-Fromdomain: MERCURY_IL To: PDF-L@emrg.com Message-Id: <4225664E.00421424.00@lotus-notes> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:11:45 +0200 Subject: [PDF] Creating Links in Framemaker Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have been using Exchange's forms feature to create navigation buttons in my pdf files. I would now like to use Framemaker to create links instead of forms (I think that links display faster than forms). I have been able to recreate all the buttons in Framemaker (next page, previous page etc), except for the "Search" button. The search button currently executes a menu command (Tools > Search). This is simple to do using a form. Can anyone please tell me how to create a Search button as a link - using Framemaker. Thanks in advance Baruch Benatar baruch@mercury.co.il _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 16:58:19-GMT,1918;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22979 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 10:58:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22503; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:27:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:11:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21361; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:11:22 -0500 Message-ID: <001501bdb962$e1fb0560$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> From: patane@syrres.com (brett patane) To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Combining 200 single PDF files Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:31:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Bryan, If you're only doing it once in a while, open up the first file in Exchange then select the remaining 199 in explorer and drag them "onto" exchange. -Brett >Is there a quick way to combine 200 PDF files into one PDF ? >e.g. can a batch file be written to do this or is there some utility that >can perform this function rather than opening and adding in Exchange? >Any advice would be appreciated. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 17:13:56-GMT,2050;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23362 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:13:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23450; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:45:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:37:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23092; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:37:40 -0500 X-Sender: magnet@mail.usmo.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199807241943_MC2-5420-457C@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:10:30 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: MagNet Internet Dept Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFwriter is OK !! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Olaff wrote: > >Only where the functionality of such applications is 'stretched' towards >DTP (e.g. if you think about making films/plates or even doing >separations from such files) it may sometimes but not necessarily be more >adequate to create PostScript first and run it through Distiller. > > >Olaf Druemmer Olaf, I would have to agree with you. As I stated in the past, I have had terrible problems printing spot to film. One thing I noticed was in PM, I could print all and any PDF that through Crackerjack couldn't. The reason, using PMs postscript and not laserwriters. Though there is the abitlity to use the other. Randall M magnet@usmo.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 17:27:44-GMT,2556;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23674 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:27:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24455; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:59:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:51:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23932; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:51:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199807271429.HAA05980@egret.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 07:30:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] How do you use PDF? From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >One suggestion I submitted to Adobe was the addition of a highlighting >capability. Students highlight the important parts of paper textbooks so they >can quickly find this material. Acrobat Reader should also have this >capability so students can quickly find the material in the PDF file. If any >of you agree with me, perhaps enough suggestions to Adobe will make this >happen. Hummingbird's Common Ground (an Acrobat me-too product that is no longer marketed) used to have this feature and it is VERY useful. The only other way to get highlighting in Acrobat is with a purchased plug-in like Ambia's Re:mark. The big problems with this product is: 1) It is not available for Reader, only Exchange, 2) it is $129 per single user, and 3) the PDF has to be left editable for it to work - which I don't think is desireable for those distributing PDFs - particularly authors of educational texts. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 17:30:08-GMT,2815;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23774 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:30:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25239; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:10:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:01:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24597; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:01:52 -0500 From: Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:00:41 +0200 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Title Bar Contents Importance: Low X-Mailer: DX-MAIL V2.21 (DX-MAIL X.400/MIME-Switch V2.02) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="fPVQ5DadTBnAIlPbOI7q7qAQZ4l1OkmV" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com --fPVQ5DadTBnAIlPbOI7q7qAQZ4l1OkmV Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi PDF fans! The following is a mystery for me: What is the "name" of an open Acrobat Exchange Window, i.e. what is the contents of the window title bar (which is the same what I can see when I open the "Window" pulldown menu). SOMETIMES, it is is the PDF file name. SOMETIMES, it is is the title (as it can be found under File --> Info ... SOMETIMES, it is the combination of both. This behavior seems to be a even a little different on Windows and Unix. It also seems to depend from the PDF file. Can I code somewhere in the PDF file WHICH variant will be displayed (I searched for it but did not find anything). Or can it depend from installed plugins? By the way, I beleive that Acrobat Exchange 3.0 BETA behaved even differently at this point. May aim would be that always the title be displayed. Is there anybody out there whose Exchange's PDF windows are always displayed liked this? What is your environment? Can someone help? Thank You petr.fexa@materna.de --fPVQ5DadTBnAIlPbOI7q7qAQZ4l1OkmV Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: a25088a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent= --fPVQ5DadTBnAIlPbOI7q7qAQZ4l1OkmV-- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 18:36:54-GMT,2318;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25401 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:36:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28044; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:02:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:51:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27475; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:51:22 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF including WMFs - from PM65 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:46:53 +0100 Message-ID: <001901bdb986$fafd4360$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980726150421.007ce540@mail.btinternet.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > I'm still having difficulty getting WMF graphics on PageMaker > 6.5 pages to > show up correctly in pdf. Now, I may be wrong here, but I have seen discussions of this suggesting that the real problem is Microsoft's implementation of WMF support in printer drivers, especially when the WMF is an OLE picture. This tends to happen with PostScript drivers, and they cut off (or rather Windows tends to cut off) at the "default" printer width whatever you do. So, it's a good idea to see if we can eliminate Acrobat from this discussion to clear the waters. Are you able to print a WMF file from PageMaker directly to a large-format PostScript device? If so, what happens if you distill THAT PostScritp file? Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 18:36:54-GMT,2699;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25402 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:36:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28848; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:14:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:07:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28369; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:07:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980727110915.00877230@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:09:15 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF including WMFs - from PM65 In-Reply-To: <001901bdb986$fafd4360$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <3.0.3.32.19980726150421.007ce540@mail.btinternet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com If it helps any, on Win95, Frame 5.1.2, AdobePS 4.1, we print WMFs from Frame into PDF without problem. At 06:46 PM 7/27/98 +0100, you wrote: > >> I'm still having difficulty getting WMF graphics on PageMaker >> 6.5 pages to >> show up correctly in pdf. > >Now, I may be wrong here, but I have seen discussions of this >suggesting that the real problem is Microsoft's implementation of >WMF support in printer drivers, especially when the WMF is an >OLE picture. This tends to happen with PostScript drivers, and >they cut off (or rather Windows tends to cut off) at the "default" >printer width whatever you do. > >So, it's a good idea to see if we can eliminate Acrobat from this >discussion to clear the waters. > >Are you able to print a WMF file from PageMaker directly to a >large-format PostScript device? If so, what happens if you distill >THAT PostScritp file? > >Aandi > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 22:12:49-GMT,2952;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00546 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:12:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04848; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:13:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:00:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04309; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:00:41 -0500 From: "Charles E. Berkau" To: Subject: [PDF] Secure PDF for Publishing Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:56:16 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bdb9a0$ff5af960$ced006d0@processworks> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: High X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Dear Fellow Listservians - I am new to the List, don't know much about publishing in PDF, so please forgive me. I'm involved in workflow/process analysis, DM, imaging, and e-forms. I haven't dealt much with the secure publishing capabilities of PDF. I'm trying to find information I recently read regarding a new product for PDF published files. (One of those *Boy, this is important, I'll have to remember it* AHA experiences I promptly forgot.) Is anyone aware of a product with the ability to publish PDF files with associated 'keys' so that only the requesting (i.e., authorized) party can access the document to open it to read? The blurb I saw came out the first part of June and spoke of the ability to protect PDF files to a character level so that differing levels of security could be built into documents as they are created, thereby allowing for true publishing, transaction and access control. It mentioned the possible product uses were to provide redacting capability, or to provide a mechanism to publish a work and control it's access. The product announcement said that even if a PDF file were copied to another PC, a new 'key' would have to be acquired to access it. Thanks in advance! Chuck Berkau Process Works, Inc. cberkau@mpinet.net Electronic Document Management Consulting Process Analysis - Requirements Definition - Workflow 4069 13th Street, Suite 159, St. Cloud, FL 34769 407-957-7680 _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 27-Jul-1998 23:48:40-GMT,2907;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02637 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:48:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10394; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:24:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:18:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10143; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:18:53 -0500 Message-ID: <35BD087E.1F6A43E3@psnw.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:08:46 -0700 From: Lynda Schrumpf Organization: P&L Marketing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Secure PDF for Publishing References: <000201bdb9a0$ff5af960$ced006d0@processworks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Charles, We are going to use "Fileopen pdf 2.0" http://www.fileopen.com. Lynda pacific publishing P&L Marketing Visalia, CA Charles E. Berkau wrote: > Dear Fellow Listservians - > Is anyone aware of a > product with the ability to publish PDF files with associated 'keys' so that > only the requesting (i.e., authorized) party can access the document to open > it to read? The blurb I saw came out the first part of June and spoke of > the ability to protect PDF files to a character level so that differing > levels of security could be built into documents as they are created, > thereby allowing for true publishing, transaction and access control. > > It mentioned the possible product uses were to provide redacting capability, > or to provide a mechanism to publish a work and control it's access. The > product announcement said that even if a PDF file were copied to another PC, > a new 'key' would have to be acquired to access it. > > Thanks in advance! > > Chuck Berkau > Process Works, Inc. cberkau@mpinet.net > Electronic Document Management Consulting > Process Analysis - Requirements Definition - Workflow > 4069 13th Street, Suite 159, St. Cloud, FL 34769 > 407-957-7680 > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 0:43:18-GMT,2956;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03780 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:43:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12693; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:24:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:19:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12448; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:19:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE'" Cc: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Title Bar Contents Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:23:02 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The settings/options you are looking for are based on Document Info>Open Settings. These settings are PDF based not Reader/Exchange based. Enter the Title in the Document Information Section for the PDF file (Ctrl - D or File>Document Info>General). Go into File>Document Info>Open, and CHECK 'Resize Window to Initial Screen' AND 'Centre Window On Screen'. With these two options selected you will get the Title of the Document from the Doc Info section appearing in the Application Title Bar - and the Window / File Menus. For some reason this isn't documented. Hope this helps.. d............................ ps. You can write PDFMARKS in some applications to set this options for you. > What is the "name" of an open Acrobat Exchange Window, > i.e. what is the contents of the window title bar > (which is the same what I can see when I open > the "Window" pulldown menu). > > > This behavior seems to be a even a little different > on Windows and Unix. > It also seems to depend from the PDF file. > Can I code somewhere in the PDF file WHICH > variant will be displayed (I searched for it > but did not find anything). > Or can it depend from installed plugins? > By the way, I beleive that Acrobat Exchange 3.0 BETA > behaved even differently at this point. > > May aim would be that always the title be displayed. > Is there anybody out there whose Exchange's PDF windows > are always displayed liked this? What is your environment? > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 0:44:21-GMT,3464;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03798 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:44:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13089; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:32:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:29:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12905; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:29:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." Old-To: "'Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE'" Cc: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Title Bar Contents Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:23:02 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The settings/options you are looking for are based on Document Info>Open Settings. These settings are PDF based not Reader/Exchange based. Enter the Title in the Document Information Section for the PDF file (Ctrl - D or File>Document Info>General). Go into File>Document Info>Open, and CHECK 'Resize Window to Initial Screen' AND 'Centre Window On Screen'. With these two options selected you will get the Title of the Document from the Doc Info section appearing in the Application Title Bar - and the Window / File Menus. For some reason this isn't documented. Hope this helps.. d............................ ps. You can write PDFMARKS in some applications to set this options for you. > What is the "name" of an open Acrobat Exchange Window, > i.e. what is the contents of the window title bar > (which is the same what I can see when I open > the "Window" pulldown menu). > > > This behavior seems to be a even a little different > on Windows and Unix. > It also seems to depend from the PDF file. > Can I code somewhere in the PDF file WHICH > variant will be displayed (I searched for it > but did not find anything). > Or can it depend from installed plugins? > By the way, I beleive that Acrobat Exchange 3.0 BETA > behaved even differently at this point. > > May aim would be that always the title be displayed. > Is there anybody out there whose Exchange's PDF windows > are always displayed liked this? What is your environment? > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 3:31:30-GMT,3019;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06793 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:31:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19432; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:14:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:09:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19179; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:09:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." Old-To: "'baruch@mercury.co.il'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , PDF-L@emrg.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating Links in Framemaker Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:31:28 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The way to achieve this is to write Postscript code in the form of PDFMARKS on your Master Page or Body Pages. There is a PDFMark Reference Manual on the Adobe Web Site (or FTP) which will explain the process. Put simply you have to create a Text Frame, then select Customize Text Frame and CHECK the 'Postscript Code' checkbox, this will create a special text frame for use with DISTILLER (not PDFWriter). Let me know if you want more information. d............................. > I have been using Exchange's forms feature to create navigation > buttons in > my pdf files. > I would now like to use Framemaker to create links instead of forms (I > think that links display faster than forms). > I have been able to recreate all the buttons in Framemaker (next page, > previous page etc), except for the "Search" button. > The search button currently executes a menu command (Tools > Search). > This > is simple to do using a form. > Can anyone please tell me how to create a Search button as a link - > using > Framemaker. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 3:31:32-GMT,2511;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06798 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:31:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18967; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:04:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:52:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18432; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:52:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'baruch@mercury.co.il'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , PDF-L@emrg.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating Links in Framemaker Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:31:28 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The way to achieve this is to write Postscript code in the form of PDFMARKS on your Master Page or Body Pages. There is a PDFMark Reference Manual on the Adobe Web Site (or FTP) which will explain the process. Put simply you have to create a Text Frame, then select Customize Text Frame and CHECK the 'Postscript Code' checkbox, this will create a special text frame for use with DISTILLER (not PDFWriter). Let me know if you want more information. d............................. > I have been using Exchange's forms feature to create navigation > buttons in > my pdf files. > I would now like to use Framemaker to create links instead of forms (I > think that links display faster than forms). > I have been able to recreate all the buttons in Framemaker (next page, > previous page etc), except for the "Search" button. > The search button currently executes a menu command (Tools > Search). > This > is simple to do using a form. > Can anyone please tell me how to create a Search button as a link - > using > Framemaker. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 3:31:34-GMT,3349;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06802 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:31:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19017; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:05:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:00:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18821; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:00:22 -0500 From: "Pete Koolish" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Secure PDF for Publishing Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:59:18 -0700 Message-ID: <000801bdb9d3$b67f3570$c9c8c8c8@pkoolish.netgate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000201bdb9a0$ff5af960$ced006d0@processworks> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Chuck, The product that you are referring to is called PageVault and it's from Authentica Security Technologies. It's a client/server based product with the server responsible for authentication and key distribution and the client, through the use of an Acrobat Plug-in, responsible for on-the-fly decryption of the document. Currently, the granularity is at the page level (i.e. each page can have it's own security profile) but our plans for this going to the paragraph level in the future. We are currently about to enter beta and the product will be available later on this year. Please contact me for more information. Pete Koolish Product Evangelist ------------------------------------------------------- Pete Koolish 1036 Whitebick Drive Authentica San Jose, CA 95129 pkoolish@authentica-security.com 408.446.3156 ------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > > Dear Fellow Listservians - > > -- snipped -- > > Is anyone aware of a product with the > ability to publish PDF files with associated > 'keys' so that only the requesting > (i.e., authorized) party can access the > document to open it to read? The blurb > I saw came out the first part of June and spoke of > the ability to protect PDF files to a character level so that differing > levels of security could be built into documents as they are created, > thereby allowing for true publishing, transaction and access control. > > -- snipped -- > > > Chuck Berkau > Process Works, Inc. cberkau@mpinet.net > Electronic Document Management Consulting > Process Analysis - Requirements Definition - Workflow > 4069 13th Street, Suite 159, St. Cloud, FL 34769 > 407-957-7680 _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 3:31:39-GMT,3019;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06812 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:31:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19430; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:14:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:09:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19121; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:08:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." Old-To: "'baruch@mercury.co.il'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , PDF-L@emrg.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating Links in Framemaker Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:31:28 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The way to achieve this is to write Postscript code in the form of PDFMARKS on your Master Page or Body Pages. There is a PDFMark Reference Manual on the Adobe Web Site (or FTP) which will explain the process. Put simply you have to create a Text Frame, then select Customize Text Frame and CHECK the 'Postscript Code' checkbox, this will create a special text frame for use with DISTILLER (not PDFWriter). Let me know if you want more information. d............................. > I have been using Exchange's forms feature to create navigation > buttons in > my pdf files. > I would now like to use Framemaker to create links instead of forms (I > think that links display faster than forms). > I have been able to recreate all the buttons in Framemaker (next page, > previous page etc), except for the "Search" button. > The search button currently executes a menu command (Tools > Search). > This > is simple to do using a form. > Can anyone please tell me how to create a Search button as a link - > using > Framemaker. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 3:31:39-GMT,3019;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06815 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:31:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19431; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:14:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:09:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19154; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:09:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." Old-To: "'baruch@mercury.co.il'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , PDF-L@emrg.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating Links in Framemaker Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:31:28 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The way to achieve this is to write Postscript code in the form of PDFMARKS on your Master Page or Body Pages. There is a PDFMark Reference Manual on the Adobe Web Site (or FTP) which will explain the process. Put simply you have to create a Text Frame, then select Customize Text Frame and CHECK the 'Postscript Code' checkbox, this will create a special text frame for use with DISTILLER (not PDFWriter). Let me know if you want more information. d............................. > I have been using Exchange's forms feature to create navigation > buttons in > my pdf files. > I would now like to use Framemaker to create links instead of forms (I > think that links display faster than forms). > I have been able to recreate all the buttons in Framemaker (next page, > previous page etc), except for the "Search" button. > The search button currently executes a menu command (Tools > Search). > This > is simple to do using a form. > Can anyone please tell me how to create a Search button as a link - > using > Framemaker. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 3:31:44-GMT,2511;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06825 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:31:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18968; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:04:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:53:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18508; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:53:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'baruch@mercury.co.il'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , PDF-L@emrg.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating Links in Framemaker Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:31:28 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The way to achieve this is to write Postscript code in the form of PDFMARKS on your Master Page or Body Pages. There is a PDFMark Reference Manual on the Adobe Web Site (or FTP) which will explain the process. Put simply you have to create a Text Frame, then select Customize Text Frame and CHECK the 'Postscript Code' checkbox, this will create a special text frame for use with DISTILLER (not PDFWriter). Let me know if you want more information. d............................. > I have been using Exchange's forms feature to create navigation > buttons in > my pdf files. > I would now like to use Framemaker to create links instead of forms (I > think that links display faster than forms). > I have been able to recreate all the buttons in Framemaker (next page, > previous page etc), except for the "Search" button. > The search button currently executes a menu command (Tools > Search). > This > is simple to do using a form. > Can anyone please tell me how to create a Search button as a link - > using > Framemaker. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 3:34:24-GMT,3019;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06868 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:34:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19434; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:14:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:09:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19207; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:09:18 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." Old-To: "'baruch@mercury.co.il'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , PDF-L@emrg.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating Links in Framemaker Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:31:28 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The way to achieve this is to write Postscript code in the form of PDFMARKS on your Master Page or Body Pages. There is a PDFMark Reference Manual on the Adobe Web Site (or FTP) which will explain the process. Put simply you have to create a Text Frame, then select Customize Text Frame and CHECK the 'Postscript Code' checkbox, this will create a special text frame for use with DISTILLER (not PDFWriter). Let me know if you want more information. d............................. > I have been using Exchange's forms feature to create navigation > buttons in > my pdf files. > I would now like to use Framemaker to create links instead of forms (I > think that links display faster than forms). > I have been able to recreate all the buttons in Framemaker (next page, > previous page etc), except for the "Search" button. > The search button currently executes a menu command (Tools > Search). > This > is simple to do using a form. > Can anyone please tell me how to create a Search button as a link - > using > Framemaker. > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 8:09:03-GMT,2533;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12174 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:09:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28034; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:57:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:50:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27841; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:50:25 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: millercs@earthlink.net, owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Title Bar Contents In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:23:02 +0800." Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:46:30 +0100 Message-ID: <21320.901611990@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:23:02 +0800, "Wraight, David D." wrote: > The settings/options you are looking for are based on Document Info>Open > Settings. These settings are PDF based not Reader/Exchange based. > > Enter the Title in the Document Information Section for the PDF file > (Ctrl - D or File>Document Info>General). > > Go into File>Document Info>Open, and CHECK 'Resize Window to Initial > Screen' AND 'Centre Window On Screen'. > > With these two options selected you will get the Title of the Document > from the Doc Info section appearing in the Application Title Bar - and > the Window / File Menus. Petr's point was that the *same* file will be displayed in the same version of Reader on different platforms with different window title. Hence it *can't* be a feature of the PDF file, it must be a UI inconsistency between the different ports of Reader/Exchange. The different platforms also behave differently when you add an AutoIndex - sometimes the proper index title is listed in the AutoIndex dialog, sometimes just the index.pdx filename instead :-( Chris _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 9:14:47-GMT,3676;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13420 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 03:14:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA29881; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:02:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 03:58:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29679; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 03:58:30 -0500 From: Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:57:49 +0200 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: To: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <21320.901611990@isode.com> Subject: RE: [PDF] Title Bar Contents Importance: Low X-Mailer: DX-MAIL V2.21 (DX-MAIL X.400/MIME-Switch V2.02) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0Wi7IyX6I2GFhs4k1FCX0ztVgT8wlR9w" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com --0Wi7IyX6I2GFhs4k1FCX0ztVgT8wlR9w Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable >On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:23:02 +0800, "Wraight, David D." wrote: >> The settings/options you are looking for are based on Document Info>Open >> Settings. These settings are PDF based not Reader/Exchange based. >> = >> Enter the Title in the Document Information Section for the PDF file >> (Ctrl - D or File>Document Info>General). >> = >> Go into File>Document Info>Open, and CHECK 'Resize Window to Initial >> Screen' AND 'Centre Window On Screen'. >> = >> With these two options selected you will get the Title of the Document >> from the Doc Info section appearing in the Application Title Bar - and >> the Window / File Menus. > >Petr's point was that the *same* file will be displayed in the same = >version of Reader on different platforms with different window title. = >Hence it *can't* be a feature of the PDF file, it must be a UI = >inconsistency between the different ports of Reader/Exchange. > >The different platforms also behave differently when you add an = >AutoIndex - sometimes the proper index title is listed in the AutoIndex = >dialog, sometimes just the index.pdx filename instead :-( > >Chris > First many thanks to David for his answer, principially, it IS THE solution for me. His answer is obviously a great deal of the whole truth about this theme. I checked it with MS-Windows and Acrobat Exchane 3.0 and it really works as David has described it. The another truth is, that on UNIX plattform, the title is SOMETIMES "correctly" set (i.e. title, not file name) WITHOUT those two settings described. But note, in this case, it is Acrobat Exchange 3.0 BETA, I will check it with the current production version of Exchange. Does anyone maybe know still more details, I would really be interested. Once again many thanks to David petr.fexa@wien.materna.de --0Wi7IyX6I2GFhs4k1FCX0ztVgT8wlR9w Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: a15314a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent= --0Wi7IyX6I2GFhs4k1FCX0ztVgT8wlR9w-- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 11:36:27-GMT,1987;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15724 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 05:36:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA00740; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 06:17:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 06:11:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA00526; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 06:11:11 -0500 Message-ID: <35BDA42E.2D7C2068@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:13:09 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Combining 200 single PDF files References: <001501bdb962$e1fb0560$9579a8cc@pc-intern2.syrres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com brett patane wrote: > Bryan, > If you're only doing it once in a while, open up the first file in Exchange > then select the remaining 199 in explorer and drag them "onto" exchange. Bryan could you elaborate please ? Do you mean the AcroEx32.exe file ? IF so when I try as you suggest I simply get both files open in seperate windows. If I try to drop 20 files on to the .exe it says "you have exceeded the 10 file limit etc. regards Dean _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 12:21:03-GMT,2374;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16539 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 06:21:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02452; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:12:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:09:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02346; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:09:43 -0500 Message-ID: <35BDB1F1.1B3806B7@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 22:11:47 +1100 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Reader install problems References: <199807271429.HAA05980@egret.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi All, I am creating a hybrid CD on the Mac with toast, OS 7.6 and Exchange 3.0. When I burnt the test master I am having the following problem in Windows. I have included the 16 bit and 32 bit installer folders but renamed them to WIN95 and WIN31.(I dont think this is a problem) I had written my install instructions for W95 to say go to Start menu, Run... etc, but when I tested that I got a Windows error saying cannot find the E:/win95/run.exe Of course the path as written above is slightly different to mine. (which is E:/install/win95/setup.exe) Is this a default path in Win95 that I should be constructing my install files to suit or does it vary ? How does Win 95 like looking for Run.exe and finding setup.exe ? Sorry all you programmers out there if this is a dumb question, hey we're designers not programmers ! :-) TIA Dean _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 12:27:46-GMT,1588;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16662 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 06:27:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02312; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:08:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:06:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02208; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:06:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Stubbs, Paul R." To: "Pdf (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] FDF examples Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:06:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, Can someone tell me how I use the FDF in an asp page. I have the basic idea how it works but could someone point me to an example. ************************** Paul Stubbs UNUM, National Accounts ************************** _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 13:26:28-GMT,3020;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17782 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:26:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04723; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:06:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:03:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04559; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:03:21 -0500 Message-ID: <6B5C8C4247FCCF1189AF0080D88002AA01EC5490@hrserv2> From: "Perry, Robert" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] RE:document could not be saved. Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:02:47 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com In creating PDF's, the more complex and numerous your annotations, the more likely you are to generate this error message. When I get this error message on a PDF involving Form Fields and/or JavaScript I start over. Yes its true the document seems fine, but I have found through experience that once this error message happens on a file, that file is ruined for web publishing. It will always open in Netscape, but it generates an error message in Internet Explorer. Microsoft Internet Exploder was apparently designed by people who don't like Adobe (I wonder why?). If I had my way, all my customers would use Netscape browsers, but since I can't control their choice of browsers, I must create PDF's that work in both browsers. I always make sure I have a clean backup in case this error message occurs. If a page has over 25 form fields, Save often, after creating every 5 form fields. Use Save As after every 3 or 4 Saves. This is probably over-compensating for the problem, but it beats losing everything on the 10th page of a document with 400 form fields. -Bob Perry . ------------------------------- >Hello All, >>I have been working on rather large PDF documents that contain numerous form >fields complete with JavaScript, etc. I often receive this error, but find >that usually if I attempt another "Save-As" everything works the second time >around. In fact, most of the time I just close the file after I receive the >error and all of my changes are preserved (despite the error message). My >documents seem to work fine, is this error _really_ an error at all? > >Been wondering for some time, _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 14:44:33-GMT,1887;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19490 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:44:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08355; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:24:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:21:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08151; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:21:17 -0500 From: baruch@mercury.co.il X-Lotus-Fromdomain: MERCURY_IL To: PDF-L@emrg.com Message-Id: <4225664F.005411DA.00@lotus-notes> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:19:59 +0200 Subject: [PDF] Cropping pages using Framemaker Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I am trying to crop the pages in a PDF file by using the /CropBox pdfmark in Framemaker. So far I have not been successful. I have included the following code inside a postscript code text box: pop pop pop pop /pdfmark where {pop} {userdict /pdfmark /cleartomark load put} ifelse [ /CropBox [0 0 509 429] /PAGES pdfmark The page size of the resulting pdf is unaffected by the above code. Does anyone have any advice for me? Thanks in advance Baruch Benatar baruch@mercury.co.il _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 14:59:43-GMT,2271;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19819 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:59:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09336; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:44:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:42:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09168; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:42:20 -0500 Message-ID: <009d01bdba37$e3bfb000$dba6fed0@rmelanso.thecia.net> From: "Rick Melanson" To: Subject: [PDF] Capture Plugin Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:55:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello All, I have installed the Capture plugin on my computer, the config of this computer is a Pentium Pro 200, 64meg RAM, 7.5 gig HD, Win95 and the scanner software is Paperport Visoneer, HP DeskScan II and OmniPage Limited Edition. After installing the Capture plugin, Paperport will crash whenever I drag and drop whatever is on the Paperport desktop to the PDF icon. You can see the Capture 1.0 plugin trying to start, then the error that OLE is trying to start an unregistered option pops up. I have reinstalled the plugin 3 times with no change. I feel I may be overlooking something real simple, so if I am please do not joke with me too hard. Any help anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated. Rick Melanson Sr. Technical Writer Micrion Corp. rmelanso@micrion.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 16:08:26-GMT,2718;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21704 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:08:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12664; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:43:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:40:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12366; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:40:27 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6024CA2@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Chinese PDF's Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:52:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Because of font and code set problems, I don't suppose you can. This is a problem with PDF as a whole. I believe Acrobat PDFs should be re-categorized to be: 1. jPDF: Japanese PDF can only be viewed with Japanese PDF reader under Japanese Windows 95/98, but NOT any other Acrobat readers in other language platforms. Therefore it is not the same as PDF in English world as we know! 2. cPDF: Chinese PDF that can be viewed only with Chinese Acrobat Readers uner Chinese Windows 95/98, but NOT Acrobat Readers in other languages and other Windows platform. 3. etc..... So the portability of PDF is actually confined to specific language platforms.....Not so portable after all! (specifically double byte platforms) Vincent Huang Developer of PageGenie PRO 2000 The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR Tool http://www.pagegenie.com > ---------- > From: simon Longstaff[SMTP:simon@palmerhiggs.com.au] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, July 27, 1998 11:27 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Chinese PDF's > > Does anybody know much about distilling chinese ps fonts from quark. > They seem to bitmap or not print at all but printed from quark they > are > fine. To set the characters I'm using the Chinese Language Kit, has > anyone heard of some plug-in that you may need for exchange or > distiller? > Thanks > Simon Longstaff > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 17:26:19-GMT,2914;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26354 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:26:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16371; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:53:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:42:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15831; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:42:41 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBA23.56C7D380.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture Plugin Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:29:16 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Paperport items on the desktop are not a recognized format for Capture they are proprietary to paperport, you must export the item from paperport into a format capture recognizes i.e. Tiff. This should solve your problem. Kevin Wagner Operations Manager Ridgway's Imaging -----Original Message----- From: Rick Melanson [SMTP:rmelanso@MICRION.COM] Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 10:56 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Capture Plugin Hello All, I have installed the Capture plugin on my computer, the config of this computer is a Pentium Pro 200, 64meg RAM, 7.5 gig HD, Win95 and the scanner software is Paperport Visoneer, HP DeskScan II and OmniPage Limited Edition. After installing the Capture plugin, Paperport will crash whenever I drag and drop whatever is on the Paperport desktop to the PDF icon. You can see the Capture 1.0 plugin trying to start, then the error that OLE is trying to start an unregistered option pops up. I have reinstalled the plugin 3 times with no change. I feel I may be overlooking something real simple, so if I am please do not joke with me too hard. Any help anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated. Rick Melanson Sr. Technical Writer Micrion Corp. rmelanso@micrion.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 17:49:08-GMT,2508;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27450 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:49:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17630; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:22:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:19:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17506; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:19:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199807281719.MAA17501@everglades.binc.net> Date: 28 Jul 98 13:17:11 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] Chinese PDF's To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA17502 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Reply to: RE: [PDF] Chinese PDF's >> Does anybody know much about distilling chinese ps fonts from quark. Vincent Huang wrote: >Because of font and code set problems, I don't suppose you can. >This is a problem with PDF as a whole. > >So the portability of PDF is actually confined to specific language >platforms.....Not so portable after all! (specifically double byte >platforms) ________________ Of PDF being true to it's namesake, I think we all can agree that it is a file format with much promise, but of not of the level to have fully arrived yet. My advice on this issue is to hang in there, get a log going with Acrobat Support, maybe they can elevate the issue to include this option in the future software releases, or even a patch if there is high demand for this. PDF is NOT soup yet, but a glorious prototype with a full head of steam in its favor, with our continued support, I think it will arrive. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Manager Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 18:14:02-GMT,2461;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28022 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:14:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18458; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:39:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:35:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18278; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:35:26 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Reader Plug-in behaviors Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:28:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello - Just wondering about some Reader Plug-in behaviors. We are running a web application standardized on Reader as a plug-in. We are using WINTEL, Windows 95, Netscape Communicator. First issue. We have placed an introductory web page before the welcome page of the actual application. When we go to the application page via a link on the introductory page, and request to view a PDF file from the application, reader launches, but launches BEHIND the Introductory screen. For nervous users, this presents a problem as they might think the viewable document is not available. Is there some setting in Reader which causes it to open behind other windows? Second issue. I didn't think there was a plug-in for Exchange. Is there? Again, for this application we are doing we want the Reader plug-in. This one individual appears to have the correct plug-in in the plug-in's directory, and the right association with PDF and the plug-in. But when the plug-in launches, the Exchange splash screen shows up. Not a showstopper, but curious. Thx - Rebecca _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 21:10:01-GMT,2791;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03199 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:10:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27652; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:46:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:40:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27371; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:40:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader Plug-in behaviors Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:31:04 +0100 Message-ID: <003301bdba67$dea699a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Just wondering about some Reader Plug-in behaviors. We are > running a web > application standardized on Reader as a plug-in. We are using WINTEL, > Windows 95, Netscape Communicator. > > > First issue. > > We have placed an introductory web page before the welcome page of the > actual application. When we go to the application page via a link on > the introductory page, and request to view a PDF file from the > application, reader launches, but launches BEHIND the Introductory > screen. For nervous users, this presents a problem as they > might think > the viewable document is not available. It actually launches minimized, because it is simply an engine to do the work of displaying the PDF in the browser. I assume the display is within the browser; if not the setup is wrong, and the plug-in is not involved. > Second issue. > > I didn't think there was a plug-in for Exchange. Is there? The plug-in (i.e. the Netscape plug-in for viewing PDF files; there are a lot of plug-ins around Acrobat and Netscape so it's important to be specific) will happily use Reader or Exchange to do the job of reading PDF files - probably whichever is installed last. > Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 28-Jul-1998 22:27:21-GMT,2624;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04927 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:27:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30738; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:53:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:48:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30432; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:48:37 -0500 From: "Seth Freund" To: Cc: , "Tom Martin" Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF's from an old DOS app... Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:50:09 -0400 Message-ID: <000101bdba71$b070dfa0$59ed8ac6@seth.nnpi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hello, We are trying to create PDFs from an old DOS program running under windows 95 (using PDFwriter). Obviously the program cannot use the windows printer drivers directly. Also, the program cannot print in PostScript (or else this would be easy). Currently the only way to print from the program is to print to a printer on LPT1, or by using the capture functionality of the network (Netware 4.11). We need to PDF approximately 10,000 pages, and the only solution we have now is to print the pages out on a laser, and then scan them back in with capture (Ahhh). I am wondering if anyone else has been a a similar situation, and if so, did anyone find any type of work around to avoid wasting so much paper and time. One suggestion that we got was to create the PDFwriter on an NT box, then share the printer. Then have the 95 box (w/ DOS program) capture LPT1 and send the output to the PDFWriter on the NT box. Has anyone tried doing this? Is it feasible? Thanks, Seth Freund IT Consultant Novo Nordisk Pharm. Princeton, NJ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 1:47:17-GMT,2742;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09053 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:47:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05702; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:30:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:28:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05580; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:28:34 -0500 From: "Rick Melanson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Max Pages in a Catalog Index Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:34:30 -0400 Message-ID: <01bdba91$081107c0$LocalHost@rickmela> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Were you successful in doing this. I am about to do the same thing with 500 pages and this is my first time using these tools. Can you share any insights or info with me. Thank you in advance for your help. Rick Melanson rmelanso@micrion.com -----Original Message----- From: Ramon Mellado Villlarreal To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tuesday, July 07, 1998 5:30 PM Subject: [PDF] Max Pages in a Catalog Index >We are about to process close to 100,000 images of pages into PDF using >Capture and then creating a search index with Catalog. Two questions: > >1. What is the reliability of Catalog in the creation of such index. Is >there a design or practical limitation to the number of pages that can be >included in the index? > >2. Has Adobe or someone else gotten over the multi-CD volume limitation of >the Catalog index (documents in several CD volumes) or do all docs in an >index have to be on a single volume? > >Thanks in advance. > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 2:59:48-GMT,2011;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10260 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:59:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08549; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:43:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:41:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA08433; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:41:05 -0500 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E0B44D1@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] quick way to combine 200 PDF files into one PDF Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:35:39 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi Bryan, We have a utility - PDFWorkshop - which allows batch merging of PDFs. The demo version is restricted, allowing the user to process up to 10 PDFs at a time, but it still should save you quite a bit of time. Richard Crocker rich@roundtable.com.au http://www.roundtable.com.au/fr_plugins.htm > Is there a quick way to combine 200 PDF files into one PDF ? > e.g. can a batch file be written to do this or is there some > utility that can perform this function rather than opening and adding in Exchange? Any advice would be appreciated. > > Bryan Gracey _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 6:48:59-GMT,2026;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14896 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 00:48:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15999; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 01:30:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 01:27:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15788; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 01:26:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:27:18 +1200 (NZST) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E0B44D1@ARTHUR> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: Re: [PDF] quick way to combine 200 PDF files into one PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 12:35 PM +1000 on 29/7/98, Karl De Abrew wrote: > Hi Bryan, > We have a utility - PDFWorkshop - which allows batch merging of PDFs. > The demo version is restricted, allowing the user to process up to 10 > PDFs at a time, but it still should save you quite a bit of time. << NT version????? Whan are the mac versions going to be released?? > ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 9:04:54-GMT,2581;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17340 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 03:04:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20535; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 03:48:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 03:47:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20481; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 03:47:24 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PDF's from an old DOS app... Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:13:46 +0100 Message-ID: <003501bdbacd$702cfb20$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000101bdba71$b070dfa0$59ed8ac6@seth.nnpi.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Hello, > We are trying to create PDFs from an old DOS program > running under windows > 95 (using PDFwriter). Obviously the program cannot use the > windows printer > drivers directly. Also, the program cannot print in > PostScript (or else > this would be easy). There is no trick (whether network capturing or anything else) by which a non-Windows program can be persuaded to print to a Windows printer driver. DOS programs generate a print stream in the language of their target printer; ideally there is a choice of languages and PostScript is one choice. Windows drivers don't pick up and interpret print streams; a program has to talk to them directly through Windows own "GDI" language. (But there is no such thing as a GDI file, though WMF is similar). Answering the question - if it has an answer - needs one more critical piece of information: what printer language DOES the DOS program use (or to put it another way, to what kind of printers does it print)? Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 12:44:31-GMT,2194;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21016 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 06:44:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27525; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 07:27:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 07:26:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27451; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 07:26:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBB04.E3799020.bschreiber@livepicture.com> From: Benzi Schreiber To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Chinese PDF's Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:23:49 +0300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Vincent - I find that if the Japanese PDF was generated with the fonts embedded, I can view it using an English version of Acrobat Reader, on English Windows. It's only when the PDF was generated *without* embedding the fonts (perhaps to reduce file size?) that I needed to use a Japanese version of Acrobat (and Japanese Windows). Benzi === You wrote: 1. jPDF: Japanese PDF can only be viewed with Japanese PDF reader under Japanese Windows 95/98, but NOT any other Acrobat readers in other language platforms. Therefore it is not the same as PDF in English world as we know! Benzi Schreiber Live Picture Inc. bschreiber@livepicture.com http://www.livepicture.com Benzi Schreiber Live Picture Inc. bschreiber@livepicture.com http://www.livepicture.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 14:05:32-GMT,1534;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22684 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:05:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30754; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:45:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:43:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30604; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:43:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Windows 98 problems? Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:44:57 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We're having a few problems with Windows 98: 1. Max # of files open; and 2. Font embedding problems. Is Acrobat suppose to work ok on Windows 98???? _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 14:14:29-GMT,3455;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22857 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:14:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31538; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:58:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:57:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31460; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:57:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199807291357.IAA31455@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Secure PDF for Publishing Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:58:30 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com [Charles E. Berkau wrote on 7/27/98 4:56 PM] >I'm involved in workflow/process analysis, DM, imaging, and e-forms. > >The blurb I saw came out the first part of June and spoke of >the ability to protect PDF files to a character level so that differing >levels of security could be built into documents as they are created, >thereby allowing for true publishing, transaction and access control. > >It mentioned the possible product uses were to provide redacting capability, >or to provide a mechanism to publish a work and control it's access. The >product announcement said that even if a PDF file were copied to another PC, >a new 'key' would have to be acquired to access it. > >Thanks in advance! > >Chuck Berkau Chuck, PageVault will strongly encrypt information on the PDF page using 128 bit RC4. The keys for the individual page are stored on a secure server. Authorization to the secure server is granted using digital certificates. Communications between the client and server are double encrypted. A series of site, document, user and group policies determine if an individual user currently has access to the requested key. The server is responsible for recording information on who viewed a page, at what date and time and from what location. More information on PageVault can be found at http://www.authentica-security.com/. For a generalized redaction tool for PDF you may want to take a look at Redax. Redax does not encrypt information within the PDF file; it removes information completely from the document and replaces the redacted information with space filler and the associated exemption codes. With the sensitive information fully removed, documents can be freely distributed over the web. Redax works within a workflow environment and integrates well with any document management system that supports PDF. More information on Redax can be found at http://www.digapp.com. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 15:06:27-GMT,2703;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24035 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:06:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00707; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:35:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:33:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00546; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:33:53 -0500 Message-ID: <002001bdbaff$dc49e8e0$41a6fed0@rmelanso.thecia.net> From: "Rick Melanson" To: Subject: [PDF] Fw: Capture Plugin Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:36:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I submitted this question a few days ago. My email was down for a while and I am unsure if anyone responded. Could someone please respond to me directly if they saw this posted. Thank you all very much for your assistance. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Melanson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 10:55 AM Subject: Capture Plugin >Hello All, > >I have installed the Capture plugin on my computer, the config of this >computer is a Pentium Pro 200, 64meg RAM, 7.5 gig HD, Win95 and the scanner >software is Paperport Visoneer, HP DeskScan II and OmniPage Limited Edition. >After installing the Capture plugin, Paperport will crash whenever I drag >and drop whatever is on the Paperport desktop to the PDF icon. You can see >the Capture 1.0 plugin trying to start, then the error that OLE is trying to >start an unregistered option pops up. I have reinstalled the plugin 3 times >with no change. I feel I may be overlooking something real simple, so if I >am please do not joke with me too hard. Any help anyone can give me will be >greatly appreciated. > >Rick Melanson >Sr. Technical Writer >Micrion Corp. >rmelanso@micrion.com > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 15:06:42-GMT,2092;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24048 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:06:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00850; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:38:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:37:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00759; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:37:16 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27377B77@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] NT, Schedule of Catalog/Index Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:26:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com In order to achieve synchronization between our website PDF holdings, and the CDs that we're distributing, we're burning hybrid webCDs right from the box that's hosting our PDF oriented Extranet website. It's running NT and IIS3. Since "search" is important to us, we are implementing Catalog for the CDs, and are looking for a good way to automate the indexing of the subsets to reflect changes in the holdings. I know that Catalog has a schedule function for indices, but was not sure that I want Catalog to be running on this box at all times. I was considering using NTs schedule service (AT), and was wondering whether anyone else has implemented such as system and has recommendations. Kenny Schiff _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 15:10:12-GMT,2244;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24136 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:10:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01643; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:49:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:47:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01461; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:47:36 -0500 From: "Seth Freund" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PDF's from an old DOS app... Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:47:23 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bdbaff$cc2efc20$59ed8ac6@seth.nnpi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003501bdbacd$702cfb20$0101c6c0@gateway> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > Hello, > > We are trying to create PDFs from an old DOS program > > running under windows > > 95 (using PDFwriter). Obviously the program cannot use the > > windows printer > > drivers directly. Also, the program cannot print in > > PostScript (or else > > this would be easy). > > Answering the question - if it has an answer - needs one more > critical piece of information: what printer language DOES the > DOS program use (or to put it another way, to what kind of > printers does it print)? > The program is set to print to a generic laser printer (we have it connected to an HP 5si). So I assume is is talking PCL, or just plain text. -Seth _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 15:17:51-GMT,2039;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24483 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:17:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01201; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:43:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:42:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01102; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:42:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199807291442.JAA05303@mailgw00.execpc.com> Subject: [PDF] PDF showcase? Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:43:34 -0000 x-sender: wordwise@mail.execpc.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Chuck Miller To: "PDF Lists" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The client wants to convert a 32 page catalog (of products) into a CD. For various reasons, they want the resulting CD to have a lot of sizzle -- energy, high production values. They and we want the CD to be as easy and powerful to use as possible. Good search abilities, flexible navigation, etc. PDF seems a likely choice. My experience with PDF has been mostly in proofing documents and file exchange. Can anyone refer me to a demonstration CD, a CD from the workplace, or another info source that can help us realize what can be done and point the way for our learning how to do it? TIA... Chuck Miller Wordwise Appleton WI USA _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 15:28:45-GMT,3076;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24715 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:28:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02796; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:05:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:02:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02515; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:02:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:04:39 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] v3, n19 PDFzone *EXTRA* newsletter TOC Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com **Apologies in advance to those who may receive duplicates** ____________________________________________________________ V.03, N.019 ***PDFzone EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra72498.html ____________________________________________________________ The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + Tracking the Trackers - Who's Watching Whom Online, & Why * Important Net privacy issues explored & explained in PDF + Recent Updates on Relevant Acrobat/pdf News Items * PDFzone list archives open; Reader downloads, updater; etc. + Cybervisit to Acrobat PDF Webring Member Web Site * Digital Constructs offers pdf-based courseware on Acrobat + Pulp-fiction-era Heroes Return for Pulp-free Glory Days * Original Zorro classics available in PDF from Vintage New Media + Publishing World of Many "Languages" - Which to 'Speak' & Why * Article explores pros & cons of PDF and/or SGML + Guide to the 'Best of the Worst' Movies of All Time * Web site host shares keen insights into film lowlights ... and more. -> Previous month's issues are available at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ -> 1998 Archives are available at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extraarchive98.html -> 1997 Archives are available at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extraarchive97.html -> Subscribe to the email version, or to other PDF discussion lists at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- ___ (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:extra-feedback@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 15:55:05-GMT,2321;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25421 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:55:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04636; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:27:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:25:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04451; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:25:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199807291524.IAA00243@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Location: San Jose (ISAACS_1) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:24:56 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows 98 problems? Cc: "Czajka, Mark" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com At 7/29/98 06:44 AM , Czajka, Mark wrote: >We're having a few problems with Windows 98: > >1. Max # of files open; and 2. Font embedding problems. > >Is Acrobat suppose to work ok on Windows 98???? We have seen quite a few problems related to Windows'98, but nothing specific to Acrobat. You may be seeing secondary or tertiary effects of other Windows'98 problems. Remember that there is a PostScript driver for Adobe PostScript printers (including the Distiller), AdobePS 4.2.4, available for download from the Adobe website. (New driver allows ICM under Windows'98 to work -- no other significant issues.) - Dov _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 15:58:20-GMT,2532;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25500 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:58:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04674; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:28:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:26:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04528; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:26:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980729082832.007e02f0@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:28:32 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF showcase? In-Reply-To: <199807291442.JAA05303@mailgw00.execpc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Try Acrocafe.pdf from the Acrobat Reader CD. It's got movies, sounds, pop-ups, and other stuff. At 09:43 AM 7/29/98 -0000, you wrote: >The client wants to convert a 32 page catalog (of products) into a CD. >For various reasons, they want the resulting CD to have a lot of sizzle >-- energy, high production values. They and we want the CD to be as easy >and powerful to use as possible. Good search abilities, flexible >navigation, etc. PDF seems a likely choice. > >My experience with PDF has been mostly in proofing documents and file >exchange. Can anyone refer me to a demonstration CD, a CD from the >workplace, or another info source that can help us realize what can be >done and point the way for our learning how to do it? > >TIA... > > >Chuck Miller >Wordwise >Appleton WI USA > > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 16:16:09-GMT,1677;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25978 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:16:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05444; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:40:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:37:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05242; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:37:35 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBAE5.5E4FB100.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Secure PDF for Publishing Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:38:07 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Charles - you may be thinking about FileOpenPDF which requires a unique encryption key to open any PDF encrypted by the program. I think a demo version is available - $2500US last I knew. http://www.fileopen.com/fopdffaq.html Mark Mark Stephenson SoftWare Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 16:21:46-GMT,2841;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26111 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:21:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06482; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:57:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:53:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06209; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:53:46 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBAE5.A8E37D00.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:40:16 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Duff, just curious as to how you are trying to use the CAD documents, we have worked with engineering firms for 72 years, and now we provide PDF with the CAD drawings included. It will maintain all the colors for the layers etc. then the enduser does not have to have a seat of autocad to view. We do this with hybrid drawings (CAD and raster) as well. We have not found there to be a problem. -----Original Message----- From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 10:55 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Love this thread..... One interesting implementation is the scanning and PDFing of large-format (B/A3 size to E/A0) drawings. The beauty here is for archival and reference purposes. Of course, PDF makes a lousy CAD source, but for being free, the Reader is a fine large format viewing tool. We are also working with large-format implementations that involve image-maps (well, links, but it works the same) on exploded diagrams to assist in navigation. The "session" arrows (Forward and Back) are superb in this context. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 17:08:53-GMT,3250;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27220 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA11404; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:08:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:03:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11095; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:03:12 -0500 From: Petr Sojka Message-Id: <199807291702.TAA24632@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: [PDFdev] Is PDF public spec? (was: v3, n19 PDFzone newsletter In-Reply-To: <199807291605.LAA29261@glacier.binc.net> from Andrew Young at "Jul 29, 98 11:11:25 am" To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:02:55 +0200 (MET DST) Organization: Masaryk University, Brno, The Czech Republic, www.fi.muni.cz Postal-Address: Faculty of Informatics, Botanicka 68a, 60200 Brno Telephone: +420-5-41512352 (my room), +420-5-41512329 (secretary), Fax: +420-5-41212568, 41213219 PGP: http://pks.pgp.cz:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=Petr+Sojka X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com "Andrew Young wrote:" Hi all, : Kurt: : : A couple of things regarding the SMGL / PDF article. 1) You don't need : Adobe to create, view or print a PDFs -- check out GhostScript, xPDF or : Zeon! Or pdfTeX. : PDF is a public specification just like Postscript, if you have the PDF is close to it, but actually it is not. There are details that Adobe hides. As an example, you don't know, what is considered a single word (e.g. for searching) in PDF. There is a secret algorithm for that used in Acrobat, but it is not open. : time and money anyone can create tools to produce PDF. Theoretically yes, but as Adobe publish the spec at the time _their_ tools are ready, you can hardly compete. And you can't make your tools 100% compatible, as you don't know all details of technology (how to generate PDF so that words will be considered words). 2) As the custodian : of the PDF specification Adobe is committed to addressing structure (XML : tags) which will not only require a change to the current PDF redbook : specification, Are they available for public review? : but new tools to address the changes. Hmm.....isn't about : time for Acrobat 4.0? Hmm... isn't about time to devise truly open digital paper format? With current policy you are always dependent on Adobe what they decide and what is most suitable for _their_ applications (Acrobat) -- and PDF isn't extensible format. Petr Sojka --ps _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 17:28:22-GMT,1990;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27752 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:28:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09140; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:40:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:36:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08826; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:36:53 -0500 Message-ID: <19980729163326.20699.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:33:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Iain Gibson Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com We use PDF's to produce legal pension and investment documentation for 35 of our clients which are Fund Manager's and Bank's. It outlines the Key Features of each fund and any statutory information that the British Government demand to be presented to Joe Bloggs in the street. We also have a system where by each document can be tailored and have various figures change to demonstrate rates of growth and different styles of investment. Iain === There is no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes. -- Dr. Who _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 20:30:10-GMT,1925;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02058 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:30:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20719; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:52:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:45:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20232; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:45:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:45:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick West To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PDF's from an old DOS app... In-Reply-To: <003501bdbacd$702cfb20$0101c6c0@gateway> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > We are trying to create PDFs from an old DOS program > > ......the program cannot print in PostScript (or else > > this would be easy). > One thing about older dos programs, Often they won't say they support postscript even if they sorta do. Check for a postscript printer in the list of supported printers. Test anything unknown printers. Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 22:15:05-GMT,1901;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04503 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:15:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26346; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:50:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:41:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25899; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:41:32 -0500 Message-ID: <35BF99B7.F6181E94@concentric.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:52:55 -0400 From: Jim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Text Form Fields References: <199807290627.BAA15806@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have placed several forms online with form fields that accept text. The problem is this: text typed into the field does not get "entered" into the field unless the user moves out of the field and performs some other action on the form, such as clicking on the mouse somewhere outside of the field. Is there a way around this? User have complained that they type text, print the form, and the text is missing. Thanks, Jim Altieri jaltieri@concentric.net _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 22:31:16-GMT,3073;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04866 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27479; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:07:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:59:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26946; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:59:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Dick Gaskill To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , Benzi Schreiber Subject: RE: [PDF] Chinese PDF's Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:59:14 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Some of my my docs are translated from English to: Dutch, French, German, Spanish, Swedish, and Japanese. To make sure that my customers can read the files, I have installed and tested seven versions of Reader: English, Dutch, French, German, Spanish, Swedish, and Japanese with each of the translated PDF files. I am able to open PDF files in any of the single-byte languages with ANY of the versions of Reader as long as the fonts are embedded. However, although I can open the Japanese PDF files in any of the versions of Reader, I get an error message regarding fonts unless I'm running NT4J, even though the fonts are embedded in the PDF file. When running NT4J , I can display any language PDF in any language Reader. Dick Gaskill ---------- From: Benzi Schreiber [SMTP:bschreiber@livepicture.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 5:24 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Chinese PDF's Vincent - I find that if the Japanese PDF was generated with the fonts embedded, I can view it using an English version of Acrobat Reader, on English Windows. It's only when the PDF was generated *without* embedding the fonts (perhaps to reduce file size?) that I needed to use a Japanese version of Acrobat (and Japanese Windows). Benzi === You wrote: 1. jPDF: Japanese PDF can only be viewed with Japanese PDF reader under Japanese Windows 95/98, but NOT any other Acrobat readers in other language platforms. Therefore it is not the same as PDF in English world as we know! Benzi Schreiber Live Picture Inc. bschreiber@livepicture.com http://www.livepicture.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 22:32:28-GMT,2625;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04878 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:32:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27849; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:15:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:10:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27640; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:10:43 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <35BF99B7.F6181E94@concentric.net> References: <199807290627.BAA15806@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:09:52 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Text Form Fields Cc: Jim Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Jim, this is a feature of Acrobat Reader/Exchange. One workaround is to create a Print button on the documents. This may convince the users to click on it ... and your problem is solved. If this is not possible, you simply have to train your users to terminate the entry in a text field. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >I have placed several forms online with form fields that accept text. The >problem is this: text typed into the field does not get "entered" into the >field unless the user moves out of the field and performs some other >action on the form, such as clicking on the mouse somewhere outside of the >field. Is there a way around this? User have complained that they type >text, print the form, and the text is missing. > >Thanks, > >Jim Altieri >jaltieri@concentric.net _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 22:36:18-GMT,2409;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04965 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:36:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27480; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:07:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:00:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27039; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:00:18 -0500 Message-ID: <35BF99B7.F6181E94@concentric.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:52:55 -0400 From: Jim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Text Form Fields References: <199807290627.BAA15806@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have placed several forms online with form fields that accept text. The problem is this: text typed into the field does not get "entered" into the field unless the user moves out of the field and performs some other action on the form, such as clicking on the mouse somewhere outside of the field. Is there a way around this? User have complained that they type text, print the form, and the text is missing. Thanks, Jim Altieri jaltieri@concentric.net _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 23:19:21-GMT,1947;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05915 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:19:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29797; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:58:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:50:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29465; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:50:32 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6024CC9@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Chinese PDF's Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:06:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Benzi, Another quick question: Did you view the jPDF with embedded fonts in an English Windows OS or a Japanese GUI Windows OS? Vincent Huang Developer of PageGenie PRO 2000 The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR Tool http://www.pagegenie.com > I find that if the Japanese PDF was generated with the fonts embedded, > I > can view it using an English version of Acrobat Reader, on English > Windows. > It's only when the PDF was generated *without* embedding the fonts > (perhaps > to reduce file size?) that I needed to use a Japanese version of > Acrobat > (and Japanese Windows). > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 29-Jul-1998 23:19:38-GMT,2200;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05919 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:19:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29537; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:52:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:44:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29160; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:44:50 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6024CC8@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Chinese PDF's Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:00:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > I find that if the Japanese PDF was generated with the fonts embedded, > I > can view it using an English version of Acrobat Reader, on English > Windows. > It's only when the PDF was generated *without* embedding the fonts > (perhaps > to reduce file size?) that I needed to use a Japanese version of > Acrobat > (and Japanese Windows). > > > 1. jPDF: Japanese PDF can only be viewed with Japanese PDF reader > under > Japanese Windows 95/98, but NOT any other Acrobat readers in other > language platforms. Therefore it is not the same as PDF in English > world > as we know! > Benzi, Could you outline exactly what did you do to make it happen. I could never make it work the way you described it. Tks > Vincent Huang > Developer of PageGenie PRO 2000 > The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR Tool > http://www.pagegenie.com > > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 5:11:13-GMT,3453;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12372 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:11:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA09797; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:39:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:30:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09414; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:30:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:33:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Kevin: Well, we've created PDFs from the rasters, then provide a link to a CAD file from the image. CAD folks usually don't really have a decent drawing organization system, let alone one that can include full-text search! PDF is nifty for this... Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Wagner To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Sent: 7/29/98 8:40 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Duff, just curious as to how you are trying to use the CAD documents, we have worked with engineering firms for 72 years, and now we provide PDF with the CAD drawings included. It will maintain all the colors for the layers etc. then the enduser does not have to have a seat of autocad to view. We do this with hybrid drawings (CAD and raster) as well. We have not found there to be a problem. -----Original Message----- From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 10:55 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Love this thread..... One interesting implementation is the scanning and PDFing of large-format (B/A3 size to E/A0) drawings. The beauty here is for archival and reference purposes. Of course, PDF makes a lousy CAD source, but for being free, the Reader is a fine large format viewing tool. We are also working with large-format implementations that involve image-maps (well, links, but it works the same) on exploded diagrams to assist in navigation. The "session" arrows (Forward and Back) are superb in this context. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 15:17:16-GMT,4376;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23715 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:17:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30702; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:54:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:44:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30136; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:44:56 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBBA5.308BACE0.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:31:18 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com so in order to view the CAD they must have a viewer other than reader, if you save the AutoCAD file as an EPS then distill it to a PDF you have the best of both worlds except of course you don't have the CAD functionality. If you then just catalog the whole collection it will provide an even better search functionality for your CAD folks. May not be what you need for anything, just FYI. Kevin Wagner Ridgway's Imaging -----Original Message----- From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 12:34 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Kevin: Well, we've created PDFs from the rasters, then provide a link to a CAD file from the image. CAD folks usually don't really have a decent drawing organization system, let alone one that can include full-text search! PDF is nifty for this... Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Wagner To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Sent: 7/29/98 8:40 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Duff, just curious as to how you are trying to use the CAD documents, we have worked with engineering firms for 72 years, and now we provide PDF with the CAD drawings included. It will maintain all the colors for the layers etc. then the enduser does not have to have a seat of autocad to view. We do this with hybrid drawings (CAD and raster) as well. We have not found there to be a problem. -----Original Message----- From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 10:55 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Love this thread..... One interesting implementation is the scanning and PDFing of large-format (B/A3 size to E/A0) drawings. The beauty here is for archival and reference purposes. Of course, PDF makes a lousy CAD source, but for being free, the Reader is a fine large format viewing tool. We are also working with large-format implementations that involve image-maps (well, links, but it works the same) on exploded diagrams to assist in navigation. The "session" arrows (Forward and Back) are superb in this context. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 15:34:55-GMT,2129;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24105 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:34:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31739; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:13:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:06:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31392; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:06:47 -0500 Message-ID: <35C08BD9.49CC0EDB@rugged.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:06:01 +0300 From: Yossi David Organization: Aitech Systems Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Distiller Job Options References: <000201bdb613$01a0ef40$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Can anyone tell me how to get Distiller|Job Options|Font Embedding|Font Lists to keep DISTILLR\fonts as the default? Whenever I open distiller, this setting has reverted to User Font List. As I am working in a non-PostScript environment (WinWord on a Wintel 95 system), I use Distiller Assistant to save the effort of printing to file, etc. When Distiller Assistant opens Distiller, there is no opportunity to set job options manually. Obviously, I can open Distiller in advance and set the job options manually each time, but I can't believe there isn't a way to set default job options and that I just haven't been able to find it. TIA Yossi David Aitech Systems, Ltd. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 15:36:17-GMT,2387;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24158 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:36:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32141; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:20:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:13:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31756; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:13:50 -0500 From: "Stuart Bell" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF's from an old DOS app... Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:14:10 -0400 Message-ID: <01bdbbcc$b41f13e0$LocalHost@psu-p333> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >> > We are trying to create PDFs from an old DOS program >> > running under windows >> > 95 (using PDFwriter). Obviously the program cannot use the >> > windows printer >> > drivers directly. Also, the program cannot print in >> > PostScript (or else >> > this would be easy). Seth, If you look at the capture file, you should be able to see if it has the PCL codes in it. Before I'd print and scan 10,000 pages, I'd import the capture file into a Windows word processor and generate the file with PDFwriter. If the file has PCL codes, graphics, or complex formatting, I'd look into a PCL to PostScript conversion program (no experience with that).. If you do import into a word processor, be sure to set up the page orientation and font selection prior to reading in the huge capture file or the program will have to reformat the document multiple times. Stuart Bell EPL, Inc. _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 16:23:16-GMT,2483;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25329 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:23:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01766; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:05:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:00:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01569; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:00:26 -0500 Message-ID: <35C09863.5E465F1A@odyssey.on.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:59:31 -0400 From: Rob McLaughlin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Kudos to whomever posed this question originally!...some great insights....here's ours.... As a graphics/prepress shop, PDF's have become a major part of our work...we'd be lost without them now. First, we can email proofs to clients that have all the fonts, graphics, colors etc in place (black & white faxes just don't cut it). Before PDF, we'd have to courier things all over...it's paid for itself in those savings alone. (The bonus here of course, is the fact that Reader is available free.) When we do need to print proofs, PDFs allow us to print what would normally be a PS file to a non-PS laser printer - again we saved on that potential upgrade. Next, we send PDF's to our printers for production. They love the fact that they don't have to go looking for fonts, or re-linking graphics. We do a lot of short-run full color work that is digital color copied, and they simply open the PDF and hit "print". Most now give us a discount, because they no longer need to charge a "setup" fee to make sure the work is printable. Rob Mclaughlin ARNELL Graphics & Design Woodstock, Ont, CAN _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 16:40:00-GMT,3372;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26423 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:39:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02624; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:22:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:18:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02408; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:18:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Ostiguy To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:20:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com No Problems with PDF's? Your kidding right??? Font issues still exist! RGB images pose a problem, not to mention pantone colors, overprints..........and a hole slew of other problems!! Steve Ostiguy Imaging Supervisor- CtP Production St. Joseph Printing Ltd. sostiguy@stjoseph.com >---------- >From: Rob McLaughlin[SMTP:rmclaughlin@odyssey.on.ca] >Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 11:59 AM >To: PDF List >Subject: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's > >Kudos to whomever posed this question originally!...some great >insights....here's ours.... > >As a graphics/prepress shop, PDF's have become a major part of our >work...we'd be lost without them now. First, we can email proofs to >clients that have all the fonts, graphics, colors etc in place (black & >white faxes just don't cut it). Before PDF, we'd have to courier things >all over...it's paid for itself in those savings alone. (The bonus here >of course, is the fact that Reader is available free.) >When we do need to print proofs, PDFs allow us to print what would >normally be a PS file to a non-PS laser printer - again we saved on that >potential upgrade. >Next, we send PDF's to our printers for production. They love the fact >that they don't have to go looking for fonts, or re-linking graphics. >We do a lot of short-run full color work that is digital color copied, >and they simply open the PDF and hit "print". Most now give us a >discount, because they no longer need to charge a "setup" fee to make >sure the work is printable. > >Rob Mclaughlin >ARNELL Graphics & Design >Woodstock, Ont, CAN > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 16:43:34-GMT,4989;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26542 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:43:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02673; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:22:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:19:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02462; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:19:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:22:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Kevin: >, if > you save the AutoCAD file as an EPS then distill it to a PDF > you have the > best of both worlds except of course you don't have the CAD > functionality. > If you then just catalog the whole collection it will provide an even > better search functionality for your CAD folks. May not be > what you need > for anything, just FYI. We were adding a metadata page to the image-only PDF to support full-text search funtionality. Actually, I think your idea is great! Since you've now told ~2,000 people about it, I won't feel too bad about borrowing your idea! I knew I was right about this thread.... Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 12:34 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? > > Kevin: > > Well, we've created PDFs from the rasters, then provide a > link to a CAD > file from the image. > > CAD folks usually don't really have a decent drawing organization > system, let alone one that can include full-text search! PDF is nifty > for this... > > Duff Johnson > Document Solutions, Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Wagner > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Sent: 7/29/98 8:40 AM > Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? > > Duff, just curious as to how you are trying to use the CAD > documents, we > > have worked with engineering firms for 72 years, and now we > provide PDF > with the CAD drawings included. It will maintain all the > colors for the > layers etc. then the enduser does not have to have a seat of > autocad to > view. We do this with hybrid drawings (CAD and raster) as well. We > have > not found there to be a problem. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] > Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 10:55 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? > > Love this thread..... > > One interesting implementation is the scanning and PDFing of > large-format (B/A3 size to E/A0) drawings. > > The beauty here is for archival and reference purposes. Of > course, PDF > makes a lousy CAD source, but for being free, the Reader is a > fine large > format viewing tool. > > We are also working with large-format implementations that involve > image-maps (well, links, but it works the same) on exploded > diagrams to > assist in navigation. The "session" arrows (Forward and Back) are > superb in this context. > > Duff Johnson > Document Solutions, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 17:10:24-GMT,3002;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27195 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:10:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04373; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:54:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:52:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04255; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:52:52 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BDBBA5.308BACE0.kwagner@ridgways.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:47:13 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Cc: Kevin Wagner Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Kevin (and others), There is one issue with CAD files I have noticed in several projects. This is not directly a problem with the PDF format, but with the PostScript output of most CAD programs. CAD programs do have a different model to describe curves than PostScript. The primary output device of CAD software is a plotter, which can only essentially draw lines between two points. As a result of that, many curves are not transmitted as curves, but as polygons. As far as I have found, only closed ellipses come through as curves, any other curves are converted. This leads to bloated files and slow display. There could be utilities which can convert those polygons to curves, but I don't know how reliable (and automatizable) they are. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >so in order to view the CAD they must have a viewer other than reader, if >you save the AutoCAD file as an EPS then distill it to a PDF you have the >best of both worlds except of course you don't have the CAD functionality. >If you then just catalog the whole collection it will provide an even >better search functionality for your CAD folks. May not be what you need >for anything, just FYI. > >Kevin Wagner >Ridgway's Imaging _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 19:22:40-GMT,3858;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00333 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:22:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10388; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:08:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:07:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10323; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:07:44 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBBC9.EC2F8600.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:54:14 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I was talking in reference to AutoCAD drawing files. Why would I do this do other image files?? -----Original Message----- From: Steve Ostiguy [SMTP:sostiguy@stjoseph.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 12:20 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's No Problems with PDF's? Your kidding right??? Font issues still exist! RGB images pose a problem, not to mention pantone colors, overprints..........and a hole slew of other problems!! Steve Ostiguy Imaging Supervisor- CtP Production St. Joseph Printing Ltd. sostiguy@stjoseph.com >---------- >From: Rob McLaughlin[SMTP:rmclaughlin@odyssey.on.ca] >Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 11:59 AM >To: PDF List >Subject: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's > >Kudos to whomever posed this question originally!...some great >insights....here's ours.... > >As a graphics/prepress shop, PDF's have become a major part of our >work...we'd be lost without them now. First, we can email proofs to >clients that have all the fonts, graphics, colors etc in place (black & >white faxes just don't cut it). Before PDF, we'd have to courier things >all over...it's paid for itself in those savings alone. (The bonus here >of course, is the fact that Reader is available free.) >When we do need to print proofs, PDFs allow us to print what would >normally be a PS file to a non-PS laser printer - again we saved on that >potential upgrade. >Next, we send PDF's to our printers for production. They love the fact >that they don't have to go looking for fonts, or re-linking graphics. >We do a lot of short-run full color work that is digital color copied, >and they simply open the PDF and hit "print". Most now give us a >discount, because they no longer need to charge a "setup" fee to make >sure the work is printable. > >Rob Mclaughlin >ARNELL Graphics & Design >Woodstock, Ont, CAN > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 19:23:51-GMT,5754;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00372 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:23:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10302; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:07:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:02:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09986; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:02:41 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBBC9.345BE460.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:49:06 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com That is the purpose of this list.......If I am incorrect someone tell me now. If I can be of any more assistance just let me know....There are some things I did not tell about how the view must be set in AutoCAD for best results. You can e-mail me at kwagner@ridgways.com. or call (757)393-2839 -----Original Message----- From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 12:23 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Kevin: >, if > you save the AutoCAD file as an EPS then distill it to a PDF > you have the > best of both worlds except of course you don't have the CAD > functionality. > If you then just catalog the whole collection it will provide an even > better search functionality for your CAD folks. May not be > what you need > for anything, just FYI. We were adding a metadata page to the image-only PDF to support full-text search funtionality. Actually, I think your idea is great! Since you've now told ~2,000 people about it, I won't feel too bad about borrowing your idea! I knew I was right about this thread.... Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 12:34 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? > > Kevin: > > Well, we've created PDFs from the rasters, then provide a > link to a CAD > file from the image. > > CAD folks usually don't really have a decent drawing organization > system, let alone one that can include full-text search! PDF is nifty > for this... > > Duff Johnson > Document Solutions, Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Wagner > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Sent: 7/29/98 8:40 AM > Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? > > Duff, just curious as to how you are trying to use the CAD > documents, we > > have worked with engineering firms for 72 years, and now we > provide PDF > with the CAD drawings included. It will maintain all the > colors for the > layers etc. then the enduser does not have to have a seat of > autocad to > view. We do this with hybrid drawings (CAD and raster) as well. We > have > not found there to be a problem. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] > Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 10:55 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? > > Love this thread..... > > One interesting implementation is the scanning and PDFing of > large-format (B/A3 size to E/A0) drawings. > > The beauty here is for archival and reference purposes. Of > course, PDF > makes a lousy CAD source, but for being free, the Reader is a > fine large > format viewing tool. > > We are also working with large-format implementations that involve > image-maps (well, links, but it works the same) on exploded > diagrams to > assist in navigation. The "session" arrows (Forward and Back) are > superb in this context. > > Duff Johnson > Document Solutions, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 19:24:03-GMT,3883;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00377 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:24:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10611; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:10:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:09:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10442; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:09:20 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBBCA.24554D80.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:55:48 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com OHHH, yes the AutoCAD fonts there are some that are a little screwy. But a simple text type substitution can be made. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Ostiguy [SMTP:sostiguy@stjoseph.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 12:20 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's No Problems with PDF's? Your kidding right??? Font issues still exist! RGB images pose a problem, not to mention pantone colors, overprints..........and a hole slew of other problems!! Steve Ostiguy Imaging Supervisor- CtP Production St. Joseph Printing Ltd. sostiguy@stjoseph.com >---------- >From: Rob McLaughlin[SMTP:rmclaughlin@odyssey.on.ca] >Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 11:59 AM >To: PDF List >Subject: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's > >Kudos to whomever posed this question originally!...some great >insights....here's ours.... > >As a graphics/prepress shop, PDF's have become a major part of our >work...we'd be lost without them now. First, we can email proofs to >clients that have all the fonts, graphics, colors etc in place (black & >white faxes just don't cut it). Before PDF, we'd have to courier things >all over...it's paid for itself in those savings alone. (The bonus here >of course, is the fact that Reader is available free.) >When we do need to print proofs, PDFs allow us to print what would >normally be a PS file to a non-PS laser printer - again we saved on that >potential upgrade. >Next, we send PDF's to our printers for production. They love the fact >that they don't have to go looking for fonts, or re-linking graphics. >We do a lot of short-run full color work that is digital color copied, >and they simply open the PDF and hit "print". Most now give us a >discount, because they no longer need to charge a "setup" fee to make >sure the work is printable. > >Rob Mclaughlin >ARNELL Graphics & Design >Woodstock, Ont, CAN > > >_______________________________________________ > >-> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- >* Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * >"Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" >_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 19:39:21-GMT,1697;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00727 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:39:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11582; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:31:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:30:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11518; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:30:38 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBBCF.1AAB4BE0.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF showcase? Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:31:20 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Chuck - you could look at the PDF Reader CD, which has, among other things, a 'bookshelf' which has some zip, and I think is searchable (I don't honestly remember). We've made such a demo CD here to show our customers, so we've recently crossed some bridges. Mark Mark Stephenson SoftWare Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 20:48:03-GMT,3208;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02367 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:48:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15107; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:32:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:23:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14643; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:23:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199807302023.PAA14638@everglades.binc.net> Date: 30 Jul 98 16:22:25 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA14639 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Reply to: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's Font issues? On the PC or Mac? Are you trying to print it cross platform? That may be your issue. PDF is only truely portable within the same OS right now. With problems between PDF Writer and that open back door with the "standard 13" fonts. And yes you do get lucky every now and again with a intact cross-platform file, it's just been a rare occurence for me. We are a direct digital printer using the latest Xerox equipment (DocuTech 135's, 6180's, and a DocuColor 40 with a Scitex front end). The majority of our work comes from PC Microsoft products, but some from all the other major mac design apps, all through PDF of course. I love the PDF file format! Never had a problem with any PDF that was Distilled, provided it stayed on the same OS. We print alot of manuals, mostly bxw, some with color inserts, some all color for large teaching corporate companies, and are getting our feet wet with variable printing. Perhaps through direct PDF import or conversion to EPS, it could/will take on a larger role here in that area. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Manager Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com ________________________ Kevin Wagner wrote: >I was talking in reference to AutoCAD drawing files. Why would I do this do >other image files?? >-----Original Message----- >From: Steve Ostiguy [SMTP:sostiguy@stjoseph.com] >Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 12:20 PM >To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's > >No Problems with PDF's? Your kidding right??? >Font issues still exist! RGB images pose a problem, not to mention >pantone colors, >overprints..........and a hole slew of other problems!! _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 21:59:17-GMT,2986;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04018 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:59:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18300; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:33:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:30:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18191; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:30:29 -0500 Message-ID: <35C0E8A8.101744A@concentric.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:42:00 -0400 From: Jim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Text Form Fields References: <199807290627.BAA15806@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Thanks, Max. I'll give it a try. Max Wyss wrote: > Jim, > > this is a feature of Acrobat Reader/Exchange. One workaround is to create a > Print button on the documents. This may convince the users to click on it > ... and your problem is solved. > > If this is not possible, you simply have to train your users to terminate > the entry in a text field. > > Hope, this can help. > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering AG > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com > > Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... > > ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at > > http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html > > _____________ > > >I have placed several forms online with form fields that accept text. The > >problem is this: text typed into the field does not get "entered" into the > >field unless the user moves out of the field and performs some other > >action on the form, such as clicking on the mouse somewhere outside of the > >field. Is there a way around this? User have complained that they type > >text, print the form, and the text is missing. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Jim Altieri > >jaltieri@concentric.net > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 22:05:26-GMT,2601;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04162 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:05:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19272; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:52:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:51:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19216; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:51:19 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27377B84@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "Duff Johnson (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:40:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com As a means of porting our PDF library website to CD, we're trying to implement a hybrid browser/PDF solution. We want to take advantage of "Reader with Search" from within the browser, and would like to auto mount a PDX to make it foolproof to the average uneducated user. Yes, there are some expensive CD/web search engine solutions, but I can't afford them. I thought that this would be a good workaround. Here's what we had in mind. We assume user has browser, and "Reader with Search" installed. We have a "Search" button that runs a link to a PDF that we call search.pdf. Search.PDF opens and mounts the index. It has an Acrobat form button that runs the search menu item. User then types in search in dialog and away she goes. Right now this works when search.pdf is launced outside of the browser. When launched within the browser, no index is mounted. Is this a feature? or a bug? is there something that I need to do to get an index automounted when a PDF is launched within a browser? Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 30-Jul-1998 22:31:07-GMT,2477;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04758 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:31:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20275; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:14:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:13:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20230; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:13:07 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:12:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bdbc07$29c967a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27377B84@mars.rauland.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The "Search" world is not really compatible with a browser. Indexes cannot be searched through a web server, only from a direct disk access. Plus, results will always be shown in the Acrobat Reader window, not the browser. Given this, it is pretty sensible if opening a PDF file in a browser does not mount the index. Aandi > We have a "Search" button that runs a link to a PDF that we call > search.pdf. Search.PDF opens and mounts the index. It has an Acrobat > form button that runs the search menu item. User then types > in search in > dialog and away she goes. > > Right now this works when search.pdf is launced outside of > the browser. > When launched within the browser, no index is mounted. Is this a > feature? or a bug? is there something that I need to do to > get an index > automounted when a PDF is launched within a browser? _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 0:13:50-GMT,2168;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06818 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:13:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24031; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:57:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:55:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23948; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:55:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199807302355.TAA17259@dax.cc.uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:52:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF For the Kids X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Just uploaded "PDF Flash Cards: Elementary Arithmetic" Practice addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. Random arithmetic problems are generated responses are tallyed. Compete against the clock. Score more points by responding quickly. Acrobat Reader 3.01 and Forms 3.5 required. See the AcroTeX site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Enjoy! dps Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 e-Calculus: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html Algebra Review:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html Pdfmarks:Links & Forms:http://www.math.uakroh.edu/~dpstory/lnk_forms.html _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 0:22:32-GMT,1865;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06999 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:22:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24553; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:11:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:10:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24514; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:10:21 -0500 From: RobertB425@aol.com Message-ID: <18a8a16e.35c10b59@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:10:00 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Optimized pdf files not working Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Help, please. I have optimized a pdf file in Exchange. I have an HTML link to the optimized pdf file in my web page. When I click the link in either AOL or Netscape Navigator through AOL, the system downloads the entire file before launching Reader and opening the file. I thought optimizing the file meant that only the first page downloads and then opens right away. What am I doing wrong? I don't want the entire file to download and then finally open. I want one page at a time. Bob _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 0:37:00-GMT,2401;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07304 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:36:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25318; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:28:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:27:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25256; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:27:12 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980731002224.00d1efe0@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:22:24 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Optimized pdf files not working Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com re: >What am I doing wrong? Nothing, but... The server on which the PDF is stored must also support the feature called "byte serving" in order for page-at-a-time viewing to work end-to-end. For example, Microsoft Internet Server Versions 3 and above have built-in support for byte-serving; many other servers can be made to support this through the use of CGI, Perl, and other means. The specific method depends entirely on the server type. Tom Thiersch At 08:10 PM 7/30/98 EDT, you wrote: >Help, please. > >I have optimized a pdf file in Exchange. I have an HTML link to the optimized >pdf file in my web page. When I click the link in either AOL or Netscape >Navigator through AOL, the system downloads the entire file before launching >Reader and opening the file. > >I thought optimizing the file meant that only the first page downloads and >then opens right away. > >What am I doing wrong? I don't want the entire file to download and then >finally open. I want one page at a time. > >Bob > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 5:53:26-GMT,2223;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13006 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:53:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03771; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:38:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:35:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03665; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:35:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199807310535.AAA03665@everglades.binc.net> From: conniep@lasertechcolor.com (Connie Posey) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:18:02 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Bitmap images Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I have recently been working on a complete digital workflow for one of the clients in our shop. This workflow will utilize PDFs as the ultimate file format for dispersion to printing plants and also as a film output at our plant when the printing plants cannot receive and/or deal with PDFs in their environment. The drop shadows that are used on the products that encompass this job/client or bitmap shadows. These are not printing out of acrobat/crackerjack. It makes it all the way to the rips and errors. I removed all of the bitmap images and the file printed perfectly fine. If I export the PDF as a postscript file this also results in a printed file. My dilemma remains in the fact that the PDF starts with a postscript file, distills, then I have to create postscript again. This appears to defeat the entire purpose of PDF. I should just take the original postscript file and send that to the printer thus eliminating 2 extra steps. Thanks for your attention Connie Posey _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 5:58:56-GMT,2196;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13101 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:58:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04217; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:51:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:50:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04158; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:50:09 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Optimized pdf files not working Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 06:43:17 +0100 Message-ID: <001001bdbc47$02c35ea0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <18a8a16e.35c10b59@aol.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > I have optimized a pdf file in Exchange. I have an HTML link > to the optimized > pdf file in my web page. When I click the link in either AOL > or Netscape > Navigator through AOL, the system downloads the entire file > before launching > Reader and opening the file. Three things are necessary to have a PDF file download a page at a time. 1. An optimized file. 2. Viewing the PDF file in the browser window (not in the Acrobat Reader window). 3. A web server capable of responding to byte serving requests. Assuming you have (2), you may be failing on (3). Can you post a URL to the page containing the link? Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 6:11:48-GMT,2669;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13608 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:11:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04726; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:03:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:03:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA04671; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:03:01 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <18a8a16e.35c10b59@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 02:27:52 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Optimized pdf files not working Cc: RobertB425@aol.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Bob, optimizing the file is _one_ condition for what you are looking for. But the more important condition is that the webserver you access does support the "byteserving protocol". In other words, your server must be enabled to serve the document as requested. If it is not, your file will be downloaded, and the optimization only creates a smaller file. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ... ... with Acrobat Forms ... now for belt drive designers at http://www.prodok.ch/prodok/riemen.html _____________ >Help, please. > >I have optimized a pdf file in Exchange. I have an HTML link to the optimized >pdf file in my web page. When I click the link in either AOL or Netscape >Navigator through AOL, the system downloads the entire file before launching >Reader and opening the file. > >I thought optimizing the file meant that only the first page downloads and >then opens right away. > >What am I doing wrong? I don't want the entire file to download and then >finally open. I want one page at a time. > >Bob > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 6:15:25-GMT,2253;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13780 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:15:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04878; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:07:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:06:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA04820; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:06:43 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Bitmap images Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:06:10 +0100 Message-ID: <001201bdbc49$54a25080$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199807310535.AAA03665@everglades.binc.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > > I have recently been working on a complete digital workflow > for one of the > clients in our shop. This workflow will utilize PDFs as the > ultimate file > format for dispersion to printing plants and also as a film > output at our > plant when the printing plants cannot receive and/or deal with PDFs in > their environment. > > The drop shadows that are used on the products that encompass this > job/client or bitmap shadows. These are not printing out of > acrobat/crackerjack. It makes it all the way to the rips and errors. What exact error? PostScript errors are cryptic, but can be diagnosed, see http://www.quite.com/ps/errors.htm. And what RIP and version? Aandi _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 6:16:12-GMT,2782;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13800 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:16:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04974; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:09:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:08:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA04921; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 01:08:16 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBC5A.34A44020@pC19F32D3.dip.t-online.de> To: "'PDF-List'" Subject: AW: [PDF] Optimized pdf files not working Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:51:10 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0211682900-0001@t-online.de From: tm_consult@t-online.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_M=FCller?=) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Robert, I think the WWW server has to support byte serving. Take a look at Adobe's web site, there you'll find more information. Regards Tom + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - Thomas Mueller Author and Consultant for Digital Communication P.O.Box 170113, D-40082 Duesseldorf, Germany Tel +49 211 682900 Fax +49 211 6914515 http://WWW.dpunkt.de:80/produkte/Acrobat.html ---------- Von: RobertB425@aol.com [SMTP:RobertB425@aol.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 31. Juli 1998 02:10 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: [PDF] Optimized pdf files not working Help, please. I have optimized a pdf file in Exchange. I have an HTML link to the optimized pdf file in my web page. When I click the link in either AOL or Netscape Navigator through AOL, the system downloads the entire file before launching Reader and opening the file. I thought optimizing the file meant that only the first page downloads and then opens right away. What am I doing wrong? I don't want the entire file to download and then finally open. I want one page at a time. Bob _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 14:26:43-GMT,1776;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22625 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 08:26:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20794; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 08:54:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 08:51:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20637; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 08:51:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBC66.E50C0C20.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:37:53 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com To all that sent responses after 7/30 in context to this original e-mail..please resend as I experienced some e-mail problems. Thanx Kevin Wagner -----Original Message----- From: Justin Blocksom [SMTP:jblocksom@printandpub.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 12:22 PM To: pdf Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 15:08:49-GMT,3107;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23630 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:08:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23340; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:41:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:40:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23248; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:40:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Optimized pdf files not working Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:40:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Bob, If you are sure that your server has the necessary btye-serving capability operational, make sure that you have the file "nppdf32.dll" in your plug-ins folder within your netscape folder when using Netscape3.x or better or within your MS IExplorer plug-ins folder when using MS IE 3.x or better, under Windows 95 ("Nppdf16.dll" with Netscape or MS IE for Win 3.1)." "PDF Viewer" for the Macintosh. Make sure that the plug-in is enabled by checking the preferences or options in your browser and/or installed plug-ins. Even when the plug-in is enabled within Netscape, if you are using Netscape 3.x (and sometimes 4.x) the plug-in may not function correctly and you still may not be receiving the byte-served pdf. Re-install Adobe Acrobat Reader, this usually fixes the problem. Also, when using MS IE 4.x, you need the Adobe Acrobat Control for ActiveX available on Adobe's site, file name: ocxinst.exe. If you are confidant that your server settings are correct you can test your client side settings on our site which byte serves college catalogs in pdf format: http://www.cgf.org. Use the free trial. Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org I have optimized a pdf file in Exchange. I have an HTML link to the optimized pdf file in my web page. When I click the link in either AOL or Netscape Navigator through AOL, the system downloads the entire file before launching Reader and opening the file. Bob _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 15:56:46-GMT,2681;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24686 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:56:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26027; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:32:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:29:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25787; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:29:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BDBC66.E50C0C20.kwagner@ridgways.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:31:06 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's Cc: Kevin Wagner Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com PLEASE do *not* re-post anything that's already been sent to this list (or one of the others hosted by The PDFzone). A better option is to browse or search the new online archives, as follows: WEB: PDF Discussion List - Archive http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ WEB: Capture Discussion List - Archive http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/capture/ WEB: PDFdev Discussion List - Archive http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ rgds ~ Kurt === At 8:37 AM -0500 7/31/98, Kevin Wagner wrote: To all that sent responses after 7/30 in context to this original e-mail..please resend as I experienced some e-mail problems. Thanx Kevin Wagner -----Original Message----- From: Justin Blocksom [SMTP:jblocksom@printandpub.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 12:22 PM To: pdf Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: How do you use PDF's __________________________________________________ * T h e P D F z o n e * __________________________________________________ (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 15:59:17-GMT,2142;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24742 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:59:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26727; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:43:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:41:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26601; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:41:55 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27280935@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: John Sullivan Cc: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:31:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The intended application for this was for the files to be local and run from a CD. The .html pages were purely meant as an easy to create and multipurpose document management/launch vehicle. But, yes, it doesn't work, even though there is no web server involved, and the files are local. -----Original Message----- From: John Sullivan [mailto:sullivan@sw.stratus.com] Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 10:26 AM To: Kenny Schiff Subject: Re: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? My understanding is that indexes don't work on the Web; they are intended for use with files stored locally, accessed via CD-ROM, or accessed over a local network. John R. Sullivan Stratus Computer _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 16:01:47-GMT,2650;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24797 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26933; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:46:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:45:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26852; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:45:20 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27280935@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" Old-To: John Sullivan Cc: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:31:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The intended application for this was for the files to be local and run from a CD. The .html pages were purely meant as an easy to create and multipurpose document management/launch vehicle. But, yes, it doesn't work, even though there is no web server involved, and the files are local. -----Original Message----- From: John Sullivan [mailto:sullivan@sw.stratus.com] Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 10:26 AM To: Kenny Schiff Subject: Re: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? My understanding is that indexes don't work on the Web; they are intended for use with files stored locally, accessed via CD-ROM, or accessed over a local network. John R. Sullivan Stratus Computer _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 16:17:46-GMT,2870;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25215 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:17:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28009; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:02:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:01:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27911; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:01:49 -0500 Message-ID: <7165A198AD18D111869100805F35071B254A1B@EXCHANGESERVER> From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF For the Kids Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:50:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Impressive site and loaded really quick! However, in opening PDF Flash Cards it gives me an error message that I don't have a plug-in for the Java script. What plug-in would that be? I'm viewing on Netscape 4.5 with a T1 line. Thanks, Donna > -----Original Message----- > From: D. P. Story [SMTP:story@uakron.edu] > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 10:53 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF For the Kids > > Just uploaded > > "PDF Flash Cards: Elementary Arithmetic" > > Practice addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. Random > arithmetic problems are generated responses are tallyed. Compete > against the clock. Score more points by responding quickly. > > Acrobat Reader 3.01 and Forms 3.5 required. > > See the AcroTeX site: > > http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html > > Enjoy! > > dps > > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu > http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics > and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 > e-Calculus: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html > Algebra Review:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html > Pdfmarks:Links & > Forms:http://www.math.uakroh.edu/~dpstory/lnk_forms.html > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 17:05:42-GMT,1671;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26348 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:05:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30346; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:42:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:41:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30268; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:41:43 -0500 From: HyperTek@aol.com Message-ID: <48563e70.35c1f3a7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 12:41:10 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] About Netscape 4 and PDF/HTML/Java/QT movie CD-roms Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 177 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com My testers goofed. They had not installed the plugin, so the movies started working as soon as they did that. Their IS department set up their machines to use Reader instead of the plugin for a good reason, but I think that is a pretty unusual configuration. Sorry for bothering everyone, Frank E. Harris _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 17:06:01-GMT,3670;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26357 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:06:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30238; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:40:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:38:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30124; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:38:29 -0500 Message-ID: <35C1F390.B10D6A05@net.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:40:48 -0700 From: Tom Regner Organization: N.E.T. http://www.net.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] How do you use PDF? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com There are many different uses for PDF, as the sheer volume of responses to this query will testify! The company where I'm working now simply converts all of their FrameMaker documentation into both HTML and PDF. It is highly useful in this respect, but doesn't really exploit some of the "neatest" features of Acrobat. At my former job, I used a Pros and Cons list to convince management that Acrobat was the way to go for our technical documentation. Even I, at that point, didn't envision just HOW useful it could be for our field representatives and customers. Again, at first, it was simply the manuals themselves, though full of hypertext links and scalable graphics. Later, I produced huge interconnect diagrams in Adobe Illustrator, rich in detail, any section of which could be magnified and examined. Further, I added links and buttons to the document as a sort of "context-sensitive" system (loosely defined) that would link you to detailed information about the portion of the diagrams you were viewing. Having a sense of humor, I also added cartoons that I drew (and then colored in Photoshop) that linked to certain portions of the text that might otherwise be technically dry and perhaps even boring (some things just are, despite our best efforts). On the final CD-ROM version of the documentation, after we heard that the company was closing its doors, I even added an "easter egg" (hidden picture) that featured the company logo (which I'd shown flying through space in one picture) having crashed into the lunar surface, much to the delight of the field service engineers. Of course there were the usual www links and the mailto links as well, which proved to be very useful. On a personal level, I did a graphics-rich version of my resume, with buttons and links and framed pages, that I could fit on a single floppy disk or send as an attachment via email. The last two pages of the resume were simply black text on white background so that a "standard" version of the resume could be printed and copied, if necessary. But that was then. Now, it's pretty much the standard hyperlinked user-documentation sets. But, I'm working on it... -- Tom Regner Sr. Information Developer Network Equipment Technologies http://www.net.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 18:27:24-GMT,2382;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28356 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 12:27:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01767; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:10:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:04:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01521; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:04:43 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBC74.67B3B260.jmaechtlen@amada.com> From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] How do you use PDF's Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:14:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Greetings! I use PDF for a number otf things. The main purpose is to make our various manuals and technical documents available to those within the company who need them. (Network, not really "intranet") I create links from a master document ("launch" pages) to the various target documents. We can then print these on-demand, (only need 1-2 at a time) never need to worry about getting the "latest and greatest:. Unfortunately, some groups within the company still send a master to a vendor, and have manuals "printed" (photocopied?) in batches. Updates don't always happen in timely manner, etc. Oh, well- some people are a bit slower... I also output most POs, FAX covers, etc. to PDF prior to modem or print/faxing, because I can run Catalog on them- since we don't have any kind of document management system here... HARDWARE/SOFTWARE: Wintel, Corel Ventura 7, Corel Draw 8, Office 97, and assorted other. (CV7 is primary s/w for manuals, etc) cheers _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 19:12:41-GMT,4463;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29490 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:12:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03964; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:56:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:54:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03816; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:54:31 -0500 Message-ID: <35C212FC.D4D929B4@beacon.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:54:53 -0400 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? References: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27280935@mars.rauland.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com John R. Sullivan wrote: > > My understanding is that indexes don't work on the Web; they are > intended for use with files stored locally, accessed via CD-ROM, > or accessed over a local network. Schiff, Kenny wrote: > > The intended application for this was for the files to be local and run > from a CD. The .html pages were purely meant as an easy to create and > multipurpose document management/launch vehicle. > > But, yes, it doesn't work, even though there is no web server involved, > and the files are local. At one point I was interested in doing something like this myself. Web front end to a local system. In my situation it was going to be a LAN, not a CD, but effectively the same thing going on. It works for me in a *controlled* environment. I just demonstrated it to myself. There are a few tricks: * You won't be able to use the browser plug-in viewer--the (local) search functionality is just not available there. I think people already bludgeoned you with that. * You'll need to ensure that the PDF file that loads the index has an absolute pathname encoded for the index, not a relative one. See, when you set index preference, Exchange's normal behavior is to encode the simplest relative path from the current PDF to the associated .pdx file. This is an attempt to keep things portable. However, because you plan on downloading this PDF from the web server, you must assume it will be stored in a system-specific temporary location, and hence any relative path to the .pdx will probably break. In order to encode the absolute path to the .pdx, either 1) have the PDF file on a different file system from the .pdx when setting the index preference, or 2) embed the absolute path yourself using pdfmarks or by hacking the Catalog object in the PDF file (perfectly kosher, so long as you follow Adobe's path conventions). Here's where the controlled environment comes in, BTW--the path I ended up encoding was either /c/foo/bar/index.pdx or c:/foo/bar/index.pdx. Had I wanted that to work on both our Windows 95 workstations and our Sun workstations, I would have had to do some trickery to make the file accessible using the same path (symbolic links, etc.). Not to mention that having an absolute path of any kind may be a little difficult depending on the relative anarchy of your computing environment (ahem). * Likewise, you'll need to ensure that links from any PDF file served off the web to any local PDF file also have absolute path names (for the same reason). * There are probably various other caveats and gotchas, but the above is the main nugget necessary to get the searching working. Note that when the search plug-in retrieves PDF files from the search results, it seems to look for them on the file system relative to the location of the .pdx file. Therefore once you get to that point, you are then somewhat clear from the treachery of absolute pathnames. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 19:27:48-GMT,1909;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29760 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:27:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04824; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:13:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:07:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04554; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:07:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF For the Kids Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 12:07:47 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com It worked for me when I installed Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.5 Author Plug-in in Adobe Acrobat Exchange 3.01. I suspect the Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.5 Fill-in Plug-in installed in Adobe Acrobat 3.01 would work as well. Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > Impressive site and loaded really quick! However, in opening PDF Flash > Cards it gives me an error message that I don't have a plug-in for the > Java script. What plug-in would that be? I'm viewing on Netscape 4.5 > with a T1 line. > > Thanks, > Donna _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 19:48:21-GMT,2218;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00242 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:48:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05603; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:27:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:25:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05416; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:25:22 -0500 Message-ID: <35C21A11.796E7869@moen.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:25:05 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Adobe/PDF Conferences/Seminars? References: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A50975667A@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Hi, Are there any Adobe/PDF Conferences or Seminars coming up in the next few months? How about training? I want to learn more about what I can do with PDF beyond what I'm already doing. For some reason, I don't seem to get the brochures. [I'm sure that I will now that I've said that in a public forum.] Thanks, Jennifer -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 19:49:48-GMT,2667;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00292 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:49:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06206; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:37:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:35:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06053; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:35:14 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6024CDF@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF For the Kids Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 12:50:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com I had the same problem! Kindly enlighten us with the URL link of the plug-in (if it's not in the 3.01 installation CD): Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.5 Author Plug-in tks Vincent Huang Developer of PageGenie PRO 2000 The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR Tool http://www.pagegenie.com > ---------- > From: Epps, Fred W[SMTP:Frederick.Epps@pss.boeing.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 12:07 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF For the Kids > > It worked for me when I installed Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.5 Author > Plug-in > in Adobe Acrobat Exchange 3.01. > > I suspect the Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.5 Fill-in Plug-in installed in > Adobe > Acrobat 3.01 would work as well. > > Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > > > Impressive site and loaded really quick! However, in opening PDF > Flash > > Cards it gives me an error message that I don't have a plug-in for > the > > Java script. What plug-in would that be? I'm viewing on Netscape 4.5 > > with a T1 line. > > > > Thanks, > > Donna > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 20:19:22-GMT,3435;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00947 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:19:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08458; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:02:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:59:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07892; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:59:52 -0500 Message-ID: <7165A198AD18D111869100805F35071B254A1E@EXCHANGESERVER> From: Donna Meyer To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF For the Kids Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:48:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com You have to download the plug-in for Forms Fill-In and install it to your Reader plug-in. The Forms (version 3.5) plug-in is http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrforms.html It's worth trying for. > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Huang [SMTP:vhuang@paravision.com] > Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 3:51 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF For the Kids > > I had the same problem! Kindly enlighten us with the URL link of the > plug-in (if it's not in the 3.01 installation CD): > Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.5 Author Plug-in > > tks > > Vincent Huang > Developer of PageGenie PRO 2000 > The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR Tool > http://www.pagegenie.com > > > ---------- > > From: Epps, Fred W[SMTP:Frederick.Epps@pss.boeing.com] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 12:07 PM > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > > Subject: RE: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF For the Kids > > > > It worked for me when I installed Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.5 Author > > Plug-in > > in Adobe Acrobat Exchange 3.01. > > > > I suspect the Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.5 Fill-in Plug-in installed in > > Adobe > > Acrobat 3.01 would work as well. > > > > Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > > > > > Impressive site and loaded really quick! However, in opening PDF > > Flash > > > Cards it gives me an error message that I don't have a plug-in for > > the > > > Java script. What plug-in would that be? I'm viewing on Netscape > 4.5 > > > with a T1 line. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Donna > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 20:21:53-GMT,2686;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01010 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:21:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08932; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:09:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:07:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08802; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:07:29 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6024CE0@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF For the Kids Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:22:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Never mind! Here they are: for maker: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4dbe.htm for reader: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4de2.htm Vincent Huang Developer of PageGenie PRO 2000 The World's Most Advanced WYSIWYG Color OCR Tool http://www.pagegenie.com > ---------- > From: Epps, Fred W[SMTP:Frederick.Epps@pss.boeing.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 12:07 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF For the Kids > > It worked for me when I installed Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.5 Author > Plug-in > in Adobe Acrobat Exchange 3.01. > > I suspect the Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.5 Fill-in Plug-in installed in > Adobe > Acrobat 3.01 would work as well. > > Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > > > Impressive site and loaded really quick! However, in opening PDF > Flash > > Cards it gives me an error message that I don't have a plug-in for > the > > Java script. What plug-in would that be? I'm viewing on Netscape 4.5 > > with a T1 line. > > > > Thanks, > > Donna > > _______________________________________________ > > -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- > * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * > "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 21:08:19-GMT,2360;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02199 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:08:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11012; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:52:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:45:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10689; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:45:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199807312045.QAA11175@dax.cc.uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:42:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] PDF For the Kids X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sorry, I assumed most everyone has the Forms Fill-in or Author 3.5. I've since put links to the required plugins on the AcroTeX site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html The above is in regards to the following: "PDF Flash Cards: Elementary Arithmetic" Practice addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. Random arithmetic problems are generated responses are tallyed. Compete against the clock. Score more points by responding quickly. Acrobat Reader 3.01 and Forms 3.5 required. See the AcroTeX site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 e-Calculus: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html Algebra Review:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html Pdfmarks:Links & Forms:http://www.math.uakroh.edu/~dpstory/lnk_forms.html _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 21:50:28-GMT,3877;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03116 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:50:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12923; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:32:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:29:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12789; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:29:42 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27377B87@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'Sullivan, John'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:19:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com the directory structures on my CD matched the structures from the drive where I did the indexing. The issue is that Reader with Search won't automount indices from inside of the browser. The index search doesn't appear anywhere within the control set. What's interesting is that I created a button within one my PDFs that ran the menu item for index searches, and it would bring up the dialog when launched from inside of a browser. It never properly mounts the index though. I have a demo version of NetResults right in front of me. It's a Java based tool that provides this functionality. http://www.netresults-search.com/nr_cd.html. Takes a website, allows you to build it on a CD, and then indexes it. It works, though we are worried about Java as a platform. Also, as with the Verity product, there's a licensing scheme per CD. -----Original Message----- From: Sullivan, John [mailto:sullivan@seussnt.stratus.com] Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 1:46 PM To: 'Schiff, Kenny' Subject: RE: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? I'd be interested to hear what the solution is to this, since we're going to be trying something similar. Again, I'm just shooint in the dark -- but I think the directory structure of the files on the CD has to match exactly the directory structure that was in place when the index was created. Something that I'm sure you were already aware of.... > -----Original Message----- > From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] > Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 11:32 AM > To: John Sullivan > Cc: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this > work? > > The intended application for this was for the files to be local and run > from a CD. The .html pages were purely meant as an easy to create and > multipurpose document management/launch vehicle. > > But, yes, it doesn't work, even though there is no web server involved, > and the files are local. > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Sullivan [mailto:sullivan@sw.stratus.com] > Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 10:26 AM > To: Kenny Schiff > Subject: Re: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? > > > > My understanding is that indexes don't work on the Web; they are > intended for use > with files stored locally, accessed via CD-ROM, or accessed over a local > network. > > John R. Sullivan > Stratus Computer _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 21:59:04-GMT,4385;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03290 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:59:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13210; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:38:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:35:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13076; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:35:43 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27377B87@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" Old-To: "'Sullivan, John'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:19:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com the directory structures on my CD matched the structures from the drive where I did the indexing. The issue is that Reader with Search won't automount indices from inside of the browser. The index search doesn't appear anywhere within the control set. What's interesting is that I created a button within one my PDFs that ran the menu item for index searches, and it would bring up the dialog when launched from inside of a browser. It never properly mounts the index though. I have a demo version of NetResults right in front of me. It's a Java based tool that provides this functionality. http://www.netresults-search.com/nr_cd.html. Takes a website, allows you to build it on a CD, and then indexes it. It works, though we are worried about Java as a platform. Also, as with the Verity product, there's a licensing scheme per CD. -----Original Message----- From: Sullivan, John [mailto:sullivan@seussnt.stratus.com] Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 1:46 PM To: 'Schiff, Kenny' Subject: RE: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? I'd be interested to hear what the solution is to this, since we're going to be trying something similar. Again, I'm just shooint in the dark -- but I think the directory structure of the files on the CD has to match exactly the directory structure that was in place when the index was created. Something that I'm sure you were already aware of.... > -----Original Message----- > From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] > Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 11:32 AM > To: John Sullivan > Cc: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this > work? > > The intended application for this was for the files to be local and run > from a CD. The .html pages were purely meant as an easy to create and > multipurpose document management/launch vehicle. > > But, yes, it doesn't work, even though there is no web server involved, > and the files are local. > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Sullivan [mailto:sullivan@sw.stratus.com] > Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 10:26 AM > To: Kenny Schiff > Subject: Re: Mounting Index When Launched within browser: Can this work? > > > > My understanding is that indexes don't work on the Web; they are > intended for use > with files stored locally, accessed via CD-ROM, or accessed over a local > network. > > John R. Sullivan > Stratus Computer _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 22:57:23-GMT,1776;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04483 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:57:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15978; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:45:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:41:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15832; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:41:07 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDBC99.95B30EC0.jmaechtlen@amada.com> From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF's from an old DOS app... Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:40:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Creating PDF's from an old DOS app... If anyone has, or knows of, a converter from PCL to PS (or other useful format) we'd love to hear of it. We, too have old DOS apps which only output to printer, and it would be really great to get them directly into graphics or DTP software. (is Fanuc software for machine ladder programming..) Thanks _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 31-Jul-1998 23:46:45-GMT,2486;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05376 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:46:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17846; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 18:34:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 18:32:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17724; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 18:32:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199807312332.QAA14219@condor.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:33:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe/PDF Conferences/Seminars? From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >Are there any Adobe/PDF Conferences or Seminars coming up >in the next few months? Are you going to be in San Francisco between August 30-September 4? Then try Seybold SF - http://www.seyboldseminars.com/Events/sf98/index.html. PDF is THE hot topic for each of these outstanding (albeit pricey) conferences. They have even designated PDF its own day - Wednesday, Sept. 2 - see the complete conference schedule at http://www.seyboldseminars.com/Events/sf98/SFgrid_main.html. >How about training? I have compiled a brief list of training opportunities at http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/linktrng.html - although these are mostly West Coast. There is alot of excellent info available online if you know where to look - check out the sites on the PDFZone Acrobat PDF Ring (http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/). C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________ -> It's Construction Season @ The PDFzone <-- * Detour over to: http://www.pdfzone.com/ * "Your Portal to the World of Portable Documents" _______________________________________________ 1-Aug-1998 0:18:39-GMT,2864;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05941 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 18:18:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19048; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 19:05:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Jul 1998 19:02:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18887; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 19:02:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:01:44 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe/PDF Conferences/Seminars? To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199807312002_MC2-54CC-BE73@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA18883 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: Cross Over Into 'The PDFzone' @ http://www.pdfzone.com/ Lists: Sub/Unsub @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Listowner: Questions to mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Jennifer, I.M.A.G.E. Inc. (New York) is going to offer a PDF for Prepress Expert Workshop end of October. I.M.A.G.E. Inc. 45 East 30th Street 15th Floor New York, NY 10016 Phone: 212-843-8700 Fax: 212-843-8799 E-mail: image@imageinc.com Olaf Druemmer > >Hi, > >Are there any Adobe/PDF Conferences or Seminars coming up >in the next few months? How about training? I want to learn >more about what I can do with PDF beyond what I'm already >doing. > >For some reason, I don't seem to get the brochures. 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